00:00:06 ◼ ► the incomparable number 127 februari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/6">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► 2013 I am Dan Morrison him for Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/11">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► Snell our usual host and today we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/15">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► here to talk about the many works of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/18">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► aaron sorkin i'm joined by an all-star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/21">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► panel i think we did this joke yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/24">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► when are they going to be using the pic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/27">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► they keep not showing up and I go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/29">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► you guys we keep on missing my lights we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► have to my state is a state right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/33">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► know this that stage right to my stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/36">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► hello folks Lex Friedman who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/40">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► know anything about Aaron Sorkin has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/42">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► never seen any of these shows tennis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/43">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► balls i have seen everything areas we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/45">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► only invited the light shows when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/47">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► haven't actually seen thing I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/48">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► belong here that I've seen in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/50">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► I am very excited to talk about any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► Sorkin check out the state you're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/56">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► okay and a a very ill plaguey danfore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/60">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► takes who's gonna take a little longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/66">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► contagious but you don't want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/67">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► this so he says don't get too closely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/69">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► there's a reason we're all sitting far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/74">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► away i want to be off the stage but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/75">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► your theme so far as everybody get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/80">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► the stage yeah I know I I really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► wanted to me up here and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/83">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► is to be the best podcast ever Jeff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► I thought we should have opened this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► podcast with like us walking in through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/90">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► a few doors and having gld we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/92">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► procedure having a religion for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► really should all be walking we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/96">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► walk during this can be just me there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► only this must be 20 people here they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/99">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► I mean if we're gonna do we're working I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/101">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► i I didn't write any dialogue i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/105">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► know about you guys but they're my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► writing with a dialogue that starts off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/109">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► here now we really need witty dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► sweet deals worried i was working with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/113">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► eighty-seven percent of podcasts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/118">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► seventy percent of the time they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/122">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► unsuccessful of those efforts i'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/123">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► hoping that that the john bolton sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► back there will hold up a sign saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/128">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► America is a terrible country and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/129">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► yeah okay thanks that's good that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/131">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► uh yeah so as we moved you were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► about Aaron Sorkin of course who is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/137">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► scribe behind many a TV show in movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► and play is play right as well as early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/141">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► career started out I think I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/144">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► started out in theatres and then moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► to keep the film is earliest films [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► include malice and alec baldwin in favor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► call about a doctor that's what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► really gone back to that one kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► moved on but then we have a few good men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► which of course i think was his first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/160">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► really big hit started to play right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► with indeed an American president which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/164">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► is the west wing season 0 i like to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/168">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► American president because you're why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/173">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► the president helping up you lazy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/174">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► chief of staff and why is the president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/176">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► Leo right this is weird and you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/177">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► got to Nancy McNally's isn't doing her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/181">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► it's crazy Josh Malina doesn't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► many lines it's really strange that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/186">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► get and then he comes back in the shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/188">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► a different person later and yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► very confusing mom got it like so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► best raise ever click an assistant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► guess what now you're gonna be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/197">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► president so what what were your entries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/198">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► into circuit like what was the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/203">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► well I didn't realize he was aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► sorkin when I was so if you admit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/208">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► fact that he really until last week that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► oh yeah how is aaron sorkin you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/212">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► handle the truth is where exactly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/213">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► president was my entry in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► circle but i guess it was a few good men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/218">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► damn morning tell me what are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/219">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► this is a setup because Lex knows i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/223">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► david hasn't we wouldn't it is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/228">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► only two things that I haven't seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/231">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► Byron circuit analysis have not seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/233">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► malice excuse boom haven't seen anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/235">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► haven't seen anything earlier than 1995 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► business has been waiting for like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► years to have a panel about some reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► you see the damn war is not you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/244">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► might wish i had watched it last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► just to set you up to attend my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► aaron sorkin movie was the American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► president I saw a few good many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/253">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► later as is my habit but I mean I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/254">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► the American president and interestingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/258">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► president to that's one of our three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/263">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► four go to movies we can't think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/265">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► anything else to watch we'll just watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/267">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► that again but she never got into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► West Wing where I feel like they I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► clearly one is much romance comedy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► the other but I feel like they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/274">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► very similar it's unusual to me to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/276">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► one and not the other without what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► get Jeff also i would say probably a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/280">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► good man but again also and not knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► that it was aaron sorkin that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/288">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► for me that getting into the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/290">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► knowledge that there was an aaron sorkin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► would be the late and beloved sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► yes when was the best series one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► best areas in and there one that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/300">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► had like a strange start because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► that was like the first dramedy think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/305">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► that's when they it was one of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► way that term right it had it had it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/310">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► set up as a 30-minute sitcom very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► like you know formulaic but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/316">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► strange because they did they had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► whole issue with the laugh track where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/321">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► the first half of the first season has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► lap track it gets quieter get why you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► in choir and it's not because the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/327">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► actually gets funnier but it's strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► because you get a I feel like that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► part of the reason behind why didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/334">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► catch on as much because it was on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► was unconventional at that point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► interestingly with that laugh track it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/340">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► doesn't just get quieter it gets more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► and more infrequently and spars and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► it's a startling when you hear it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► with the initially released the DVD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/347">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► series they have the laugh track their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► fans complaining they never wanted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/351">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► left right there the first place if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/352">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► laugh track if that's ok we have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► horrible one with the laugh track yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► think that one but I went upgrade yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► don't know the laugh track to me always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► remind me all the left some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► nervous and it sounds like they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/365">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► suddenly they've laughed luck walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► somebody there like laughs damn it left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/368">TS</a>]
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00:06:12 ◼ ► left I getting that maybe they're gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/372">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► sure whether or not they're supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/374">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► definite feeling of somebody not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► writers not but not the directors like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/380">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► somebody in a board room somewhere was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► like well this is this is a comedy so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► need to impose this laugh track because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► i don't think any of the the creator's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/388">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► something from up on my hands anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/392">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► typical studio decisions have white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/394">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► community rather than me but I said how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/396">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► many 30-minute shows at that point did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/399">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► not have a laugh track i mean you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► talking about primes sitcom time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/404">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► there's something about it that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► I more or Seinfeld and you heard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► last track it just you didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/412">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► notice it was there but when you watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► sports night for some reason it is glare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/416">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► it's very grading right it was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/418">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► right you're like I don't know if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► the first but it was you know a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/421">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► early single-camera comedy single-camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/422">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► alright we're going now become kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/429">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► like the standard in a lot of cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/430">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► we've got more and more shows that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/433">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► that single-camera comedy that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► have a studio audience doesn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/436">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► laugh track the late great limited 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► rock which just ended and number yet so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/439">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► I I think he kind of pioneered that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/443">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► audience wasn't quite ready for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/447">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► that level of something that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► just about punchline punchline punchline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► ypc didn't really know how to market it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/452">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► i mean they were putting it very much i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/455">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► remember seeing the original marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/456">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► it's 99 yeah I'm 92 that they also it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/460">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► in the middle there because there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/464">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► episode in the second season with a deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/465">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► yes bright yellow you know bright yellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/469">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► papers and everybody's happy and jumping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► up in the air they fell prey to the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► that was actually the marketing for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/477">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► of ABC's programs that year that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► there stick and it didn't want were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/481">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► that you know the knock that I here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/485">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► against Aaron Sorkin in general for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► people who for whatever reason don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► like sports night as a good example bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► people you're right that the challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► that happens there i think is that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► sports night as well on the west wing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► and every other TV show that he's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/499">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► these are characters who take their jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► very seriously and on sports let you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► know that the concedes that they're your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► seat watching backstage the makings of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► SportsCenter style show which too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► of us i think is probably not the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► important work one can do / is her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► country but they take it very seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► you know when something goes wrong this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► is it's it's extremely high personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► taking drama for the the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► involved on the show and you know on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/523">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► west wing when they're so upset and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► unhappy because you know people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► shooting at each other in encouragement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/530">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► understand that's that there's a reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/533">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► for them to be so upset because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► there's death involved but when i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► accidentally said you understand yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► and then and and sports night when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/540">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► they're really concerned because maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► the game isn't gonna end in time so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► have to start their broadcast late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► the stakes are very high to them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/549">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► less hi to the audience that i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► like to show I love sports night but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► people who I've heard complain about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/556">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► that show feel like why are they taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► this so seriously why are they so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► concerned I think it's a fair and at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/561">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► same thing happens on studio 60 and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► someone in the newsroom right that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/565">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► yeah a little closer to exact way I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/567">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► I feel like that is very much true to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► life though because God knows I mean as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► technology journalists we've had plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► of times where I has an aaron sorkin a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/577">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► will get cancelled after half a season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► sadly but I mean we have plenty of days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► when we're running around with our heads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/585">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► cut off being like oh god we've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/588">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► get this in or else everything will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► down in flames I think a live load of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► trash people don't yet know about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/593">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► new I books but it's it feels like life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/594">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► or death at that point and no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► definitely not have not getting shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/599">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► having been in the room when all of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/601">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► like why blog coverage crashed it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/603">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► just like we're sitting area that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► apple presentation like God so I am it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/607">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► is very seriously the people involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► with professionals is what they do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► anybody makes it more convincingly and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/616">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► exception to your comment about the west [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► wing vs force night because i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► in later seasons which obviously aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/623">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► directly aaron sorkin reading seasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► this is where the law comes in which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/628">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► they think they can make up for the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/630">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► that it's you know there are problems by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/631">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► making them these huge dramatic problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► like these india and china on the brink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► of war but it doesn't work because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► has no substance behind it there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► subtext or anything it's all just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► over-the-top that's really annoying haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/644">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► hello but that's expected of me off that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/648">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► sorry well I also think that that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► some of what sports and I did I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/656">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► know yet that the the the the words are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/657">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► escaping me the topics were sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/662">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► know like like small and contained it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► behind the show but they also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► really tried to push into some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/670">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► things like I remember some storylines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► about we weren't there like a drug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/673">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► testing scandal or something that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/676">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► had to report on and they had to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/680">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► something that was a you know a comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► it seemed like he was sort of pushing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/689">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► agendas or you know pushing thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► which I'm sure will probably talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/695">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► seems to be a short aspect of pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/696">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► point of view but it seemed like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/700">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► it was trying to push the boundary there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/703">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► even though yeah this is about it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► sports show right and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► trying to get this little episode they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► someone wants to blow up the building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/711">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► because some radio host makes it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/712">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► know insensitive comment I would someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/714">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► well I mean all of his big TV shows have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/717">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► been this is behind the scenes of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/721">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► whether it's the west wing or its sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► night or two tvs news station or it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/728">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► nitty-gritty behind-the-scenes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► people who do what you see the front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► them and and I was less interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/736">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► studio 60 because i didn't really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► about night clubs but I love sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► center and so I found ambassador even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► though it wasn't sportscenter it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/745">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► supposed to be right there and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/747">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► that was fascinating because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► topic and i will and i like i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► politics policy and politics into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► West Wing got to me but I do agree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► I think like if you're not into sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► center demographic sports night kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/759">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► between their i8 I don't fall sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/762">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► almost at all and i'm not really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► sports fan I don't watch SportsCenter i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► love the wild switch your and aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/768">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► sorkin finding you'll watch because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► you're so I didn't even know at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/771">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► I mean that was that and west wing which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/772">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► started around the same time I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► sports i was slightly earlier and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► season when he was doing bullet once per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► season over web and so I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► until I start watching both of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/784">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► it was for me was the characters in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/787">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► someone who's a writer I just I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► admire his dialogue is great and pacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/792">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► masterful dialogue these various witty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/797">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► banter things about the infuriating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/800">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► thing to me about Aaron Sorkin's talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► since i don't have it is you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/803">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► first of all I think it's impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/809">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► accurately depicted or not he makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► feel like he knows exactly what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/814">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► like backstage and sports center or by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/815">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► the scenes in the white house or in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/818">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► newsroom like it feels like he's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► his research with the possible exception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► of studio 60 and then when you later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/823">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► dialogue his character soft like many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► extemporaneously and oftentimes can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/832">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► out some of the believability i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/836">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► statistics and factories that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► instant recall as the characters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► fictionalization anyway but it's the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/842">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► he crafted his storytelling that I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► very impressive you look at especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► you know you can tell when Sorkin stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/849">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► reading The West Wing when he leaves the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► everybody's IQ on that show drops by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► about 50 points in the drama becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► totally different than what well because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► thank you don't want drama is conflict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/860">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► right so we need to make everybody angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/861">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► at each other right and that you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/864">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► notice that just joshin related because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► the total jerk people just yelling at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/867">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► each other all want Leo was always angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/868">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► ya know if there's never any common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/871">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► ground or any reconciliation part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► that sort of makes you feel like oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/874">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► these guys at the end of the day are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/877">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► still friends even if they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/878">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► through this tough spot right now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/879">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► the way he crashed his actual story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► telling where there's so many times when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/884">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► he the the narrative marks about with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/885">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► time even on the show like the Western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/888">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► sportswear you'll see the story told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/891">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► slightly out of order or you'll see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/892">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► same part of the storytelling from two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► perspectives the the only writer i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► can achieve that on his level is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/899">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► occasionally does some of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/903">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► trillion you get he is of course I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/904">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► we often see the standard construction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► of a TV show where you've got you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► you're a plot which is your main thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/911">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► going on you got a subplot sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► they tied together but I think in circus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/915">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► shows that they almost always end up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► some way interleaving in a way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/918">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► just like Seinfeld it's been pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► the same it's like the Jerry Seinfeld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► president united states that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/927">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► darkest timeline Dan but now do you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/929">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► mean I know exactly what my Chiefs or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► complaint is but I i I'm curious since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► it's clearly that this is becoming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► what are our issues with sort of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/941">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► don't you like so i'll say that won the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/944">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► West Wing was out i was at when I first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/948">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► came out I was not in technology was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► actually public policy analyst and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► see a TV show where they were smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► people talking about policy and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► knew what they were talking about it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/958">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► like this is awesome but I went back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► I've been what are you watching it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/961">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► I mean wow I still love the west wing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► think it's one of the best TV shows but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► it's very preachy and not not that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► a bad way or are in a bad way or a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► thing but it's very like she thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/973">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► everybody just doesn't get it and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/976">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► wants to teach them and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► that's one of his flaws sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► goes a little too overboard at trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► say you don't know this you need to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/984">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► this and I'm gonna tell you for the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/987">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► hour and I'm and so I think that great a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/988">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► lot of people i think that's one other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/991">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► thing that some people don't like Sorkin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/992">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► poor is that sort of storytelling i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► think that that his his construction is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/998">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► it's sort of a memorable and frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► sometimes because you'll have things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► where you know you definitely have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► things that they're building up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► something and then which is good and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► was it like really good technique but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► then you get to that something and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► realize that oh this is basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► like the thing that I wish that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► said when someone says something mean to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► me and they're like really like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► three hours later out like this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► I would have said if i was there goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► your text or called when the jerk store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► hey go I i actually did not watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► seinfeld sorry this isn't about side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► I've seen happy to get your ex is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► about tvs are absolutely right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► that's what i was thinking about when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► first said we were gonna talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► Aaron Sorkin here i thought well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► the best way for me to describe his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► dialogue is that sort of the list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► read escalade which is the I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► translate the staircase with which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► like when you're on your way out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► you think of the things you should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► said yeah and he does a great job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► channeling that but yeah it is sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► you're like nobody actually talks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► that very few people think of all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► on the spot when you really need it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► really deliver that that punch of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► I'm rarely is it to people engaged in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► single conversation both seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► managing to pull it out this but at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► same time it's good TV great TV it is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► feel like it makes you feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► have the power to actually talk like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► that in real life at least watching this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► and also growing up I'd be like alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► if I just indoctrinate myself into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► enough Amy sherman-palladino and aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► sorkin i will eventually be able to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► really quickly and Willie and apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► occasionally get that moment it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► oh yes yes I could totally be on a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► for five seconds so it's aspirational TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► that's very inspirational wit I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► gonna say that my to address lexus point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► about laws i think and it sort of ties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► into what I think Dan was saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► idealism aspect of it which again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► really admire but he kind of at times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► converge towards the naivete I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► that's not quite the right thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► I think he's a smart guy and he knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► but the idea that good things will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► sort of float to the top like there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► sort of a meritocracy somehow and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► well-intentioned the truthful shine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► hours which is how I think we don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► it to be but what did you think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► particular my parents make rush limbaugh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► look liberal and they love the west wing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► despite you know it it's clear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► disagreement with their political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► perspectives and I think what the way he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► can pull that off is that he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► committed to it you know he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► shower convicted he has a viewpoint that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► his characters are all going to be these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► and you know what was nice as that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► found at least Arnold Vinick comes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► that you know season six and seven and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► he's not historical character as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► Republican that the Liberals who share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► the liberal philosophy is expressed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► the show can appreciate and like to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► not every Republican character on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► sorgan years either was one he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► vilify know he he took care to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► that even when he had his viewpoint that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► he wasn't there as they hired a man is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► rabbi Marc person yeah but what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► infuriates me with aaron sorkin is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► seeming embrace of the fact that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► understands absolutely nothing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► technology we've been hearing this from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► lex for three days now I I'm furious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► about it i have never stops being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► furious about it likes you mean you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► never accidentally sent an email to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► entire company when you only meant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► send it to one person that's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► newsroom and it's it drives the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► plot line of an episode I mean clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► also on the west wing Josh Lyman hates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► bloggers in the multiple show in modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► government email system by 14 spam right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► for the spam messages about muffins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► right about the calorie content of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► muffins there was well I love this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► episode of the west wing when you re [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► watching you just can't believe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► in the situation room so it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► theoretically that you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► tech-savvy estate of the texts Abby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► should be in this room they're using all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► sorts of fancy technology to do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► they do and so they're showing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► president is photographing why is it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► blurry why is it why is this picture so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► well it was emailed we think using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► and III don't know what that's supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► but it's I mean he hates bloggers he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► hates the internet he hates the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► he doesn't understand how email works he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► has this whole contrived plot line on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► the newsroom where you know i-i've you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► have to use a semicolon if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► send an email to everybody on this 2f [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► don't use a semicolon is going to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► person and of course he screws it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► we're sending this email to the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► staff and it's embarrassing which is we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► just said because you get the feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► that if he were you know had people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► would you know consult on him and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► that he would listen to that he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► really be able to write a great story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► about technology and in fact of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► he has only not only written to movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► the social network which looks feels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► technology but he's also writing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► biopic of steve jobs that is not the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► with ashton kutcher which is based on i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► believe the loosely based on the walter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► isaacson book but also it's sort of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► phone supposedly divided up into three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► scenes leading up to product announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► apple product and i'm going to be three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► real-time moments before he goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► stage at various apple keynote for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► is the original mac yes the ipod and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► iphone is the iphone is I think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► everything the iphone but which which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► I mean and you can kind of get away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► that by saying that well apple stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► isn't always about the midi gritty parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► of technology there's more to it than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► that I think that's part of the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► that in my mind I liked the social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► I think it succeeded in telling me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► necessarily interested in hearing when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► first went into it and yet i found it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► compelling and it's not necessarily all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► about programming I mean that plays a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► part in it but it doesn't it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► that's not a thing that matters in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► grants give it a lot but it you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► that he does have a weakness that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► doesn't do you have any interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► having interest in learning about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► obviously I don't think anyone say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► undermines the rest of his guru as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► were but it is definitely flawed is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► no I think the weird thing is that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► seems perfectly confident to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► technology for instance in the shelter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► network and I have no doubt that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► Steve Jobs movie will be well written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► and well represented but when it when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► gets the option to use technology at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► butt of his joke he will gladly take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► up i mean he he uses a similar scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► like that in every single one of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► shows sometimes multiple times to great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► yeah i think this Lincoln Sports Network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► Casey your dad's gonna throw a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► out the window or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► something like that yes and it's just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► I one of the things that struck me also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► this might be any sort of flopping over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► here again we're not trying to be came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► not to bury aaron sorkin months largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► to praise him i was a big love in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► minute ago and now and now it's all gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► that shirt you're being now walked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► right now we would kick now look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► the he gets knocked for reusing stuff a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► lot which I noticed been rewatching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► west wing because there's the episode in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► season 7 where Arnie Vinick and Matt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► Santos who are the contestants for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► presidency are talking about having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► debate and they go off on this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► thing about we need to have a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► debate not something we're limited just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► 30-second sound bites and rebuttals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► all this and that's brought again in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► newsroom at the end of the newsroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► system this season they try to convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► the the republican national convention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► that we want to have a real debate where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► the candidates are forced to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► questions now that's not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► repeating himself that he says he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► write that season of The West Wing but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► want to point that out in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► well and if you sure everybody up here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► seated but then there's a clip out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► were somebody did a bunch of cuts where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► Aaron Sorkin almost word for word we use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► a whole lot of his stuff it's nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► minutes worth of cuts in fact i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► point out like that in fact in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► season he did right where he goes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► against partly goes up against James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1498">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► Brolin yes i think that the Vinick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► sandals thing is a call back to bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► agree two hundred percent that do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► know by the way to soften the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► episode of the west wing in which Sorkin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► for example the west wing he's in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► since social network he's in the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► finale of The West Wing when Santos is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► on the inauguration platform and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► a bunch of dignitaries there Mac sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► there on the stage as if he's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► important analytical here appears in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► social network as a ad exec yes briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► and he appeared actually did quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► memorable turn on one of his own shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► but on entourage appears as himself in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► several episodes as a somewhat per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► what we believe is a problem running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► with the wall and with drugs and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► like that i have mentioned 30 rock but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► he also I he appears on 30 rock as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► believe himself and yes in a walk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► he has a good sense of humor about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► himself in some aspects it's he's ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► with you were when it's in parodying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► himself but he seems to be very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► scared of the bloggers in the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► yeah if he doesn't get a say that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► we'll be going back to the into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► I think it also ties in especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► someone as earlier stuff where is it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► pretty clear like it like wasn't he also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► the showrunner 44 West weekend sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► I'm so like like he was the ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► authority and I think they're sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► when he didn't really have people there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► to say you know know or you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► we should have someone look over this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► and so you have the issue of and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► this also comes into the the preaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► this a little bit we're like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► aaron sorkin show its gonna be like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► and you don't have enough input to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► of whatever those things lee famously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► overruled I mean he rewrote i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► almost every episode of the west wing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► executive sort of pass and said yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► going to basically make sure that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► well I remember at one point he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► doing both sports night and west wing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► like he was writing all the scripts for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► so I think he's also doing a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► cocaine too so he was that affected it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► what I like to look at is the the fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► game to play is who is the sorgan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► facsimile character in Sorkin's writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► in The West Wing i decided i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► everybody is like Josh right and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► I think it's both Casey and Damned and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► then when you get to really get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► studio 60 we have Matthew Perry's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► character Matt Albie he's clearly he the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► the amazing thing about Matt Albie who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► writes this saturday lifestyle shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► that he writes every episode himself he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► lays off the writers because they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► everyone's health and how does he do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► how can we accomplish such great writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► and it's it's really i mean i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► like Aaron Sorkin I want to be clear but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► I think it's kind of embarrassing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► you write the character who's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► meant to be you and he is just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► perfect so you thought it was Josh in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► the West Wing i would have said maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► Josh but also Sam you know perfection is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► writer always wanted to get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► facts in their wants to educate people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► once touted smart people wants to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► witnessed my love i think it's all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► is right because Toby to because we take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► it all so seriously is like he throws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► away his hairy or over again he wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► be Sam but he's really Josh we all want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► to be safe I think we all know that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► John Hoynes clearly top i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► funny and particularly in the case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► West Wing that that that it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► phenomenon took on such a life of itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► I mean even even after he left I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► you know we all would agree that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► show did suffer sort of a precipitous to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► climb in the next season and is a season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► and a half I think towards the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► season six it starts to pick up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► think season 7 is actually pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► when he was just a different show it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► different it's infected two shows is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► campaign and the homefront the home from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► stuff is really boring for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► the campaign is much better stow which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► is just goes to show you that the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► they got away from what he was doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► more they were able to do their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► thing and do that well rather than just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► trying to do a bad impression of aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► sorkin but it's funny to me that it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► because we're still here in that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► know you look at the there's Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► characters including these like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► really minor characters who only show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► in a couple episodes like I think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► how whole works characters like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► undersecretary of state has a twitter a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► Catholic and for me it was the during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► the election they got a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► the cast back together to do a sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► nonpartisan ad for a judge election who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► is mary mccormack who played Kate Harper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► for anti guess was running sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► ok but what was impressively obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► they want to make them this whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► and it basically reads just like a west [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► wing episode even though they don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► know that you know really acknowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► that back anywhere and it always was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► of those things that makes me think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► know don't you want to kind of imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► sometimes and play west wing like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► really my head that's you know I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► the same thing with firefly two words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► like sometimes they just hang out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► you know pretend they're still on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► spaceship right but of course they had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► feeling that some of the other sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► movies we didn't talk about you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► Moneyball really likes money when i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► the book Moneyball and then saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► movie I don't think circuit wrote the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► I you know I like Michael I mean I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► think I like baseball more than you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► sew and i actually was familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► some of the stuff going into it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► it's a weirdly I think we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► it's a weirdly structured movie as is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► would argue social network is also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► very particularly structured movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► well biopics in general on the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► yeah which is the tricky part was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► I was compared to do tonight it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► Lincoln like okay dies at the end like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► he was you know mark mark zuckerberg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► spoiler until it comes back in hunts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► you know I i think that the the issue i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► had with the social network i thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► was a good movie but it feels like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► never really get started there's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► know there's enjoyable scenes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► connect well as well plotted i guess but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► it just feels like he and when you watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► this organ scripted thing you're waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► for it was gonna get really heated up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► and intense and it doesn't it's I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► the he does a nice job I think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► depicting those characters and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► that not michael cera does a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► job in the movie but and I just I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► like you're just constantly waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► it to kick into high gear and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► I mean it's tepid in places and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► definitely probably the calmest Sorkin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► movie that I've ever watched but a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► of it does take place sitting so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► that every yeah there's a lot of time a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► XXX I mean in reality circles best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► characters bouncing off of each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► one on wasn't enough walking there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► not enough 142 meeting and exhausted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► walking that's gross working today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► I mean there's there's some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► deposition stuff that's really biting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► and really sparkling like oh yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► that's the aaron sorkin that I know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► love at the same time I really enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► the film uh but it's i agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► that it's not necessarily representative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► of what an aaron sorkin movie can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► that actually brings up the question of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► like should an aaron sorkin movie be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► aaron sorkin movie I mean if its parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► no I will not but oh ok well I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► know like like it if we go to a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► and it doesn't have like you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► something like that like is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► downer or does that mean that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► actually getting better i mean i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► part of it is he's been so consistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► with the email he sort of like his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► Sorkin repertory players and his Sorkin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► repertory plot themes because he had so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► consistently return to the same well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► know he's gonna cast Josh Malina just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► about everything and he's going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► high stakes in many things or people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► going to treat their things like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► high-stakes whether norms think they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► not and I think that because he's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► to that well sometimes so many times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► done it quite a definitely in ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► yes I wanted to keep doing those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► that's what i want to see when i go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► sort of movie I don't want to see in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► Quentin Tarantino movie or Steven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► Spielberg movie want to go to see it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► working i want to feel like arizona and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► i was in some ways I know his background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► comes from theater and he started in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► movies but I feel like he does a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► job with the TV stuff where he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► larger canvas and there is this ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► to do continuity and sort of string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► things out plot arcs to develop over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► course of the season as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► having a cram it in a couple hours I to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► me that seems a better mix tape for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► like you know he can yeah he's a French [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► yeah I just feel like that's I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► you know most of his later movies also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► charlie wilson's war which is has again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► enjoyable movie moments but it's it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► kind of strung together strangely it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► doesn't necessarily feel like oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► that's a great movie in one that i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► to keep you know watch over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► again I thought once in a kind of faded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► memory but I know his shows all go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► to and revisit time after time except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► studio 6a can get back everyone you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► i rewatch studio 69 is introducing i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► defense did musics all enemies foreign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► and domestic yes you know what there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► lot of it that certain did not get right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► in terms of how backstage actually runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► but that said I think there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► great moments in that and also i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► bradley whitford i love seeing him on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► stage and I think Danny Tripp is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► his best circuit like I love Josh but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► almost think i prefer Danny trip to John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► I can't believe this is happening right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► now yeah I character that show was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► who's the kids in the hall bet who shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► up in mark McKinney yes mark McKinney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► shows up as the writer the really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► depressed right now because my great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► that's a great example of how sore can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► you can use multiple episodes to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► up a character I mean when they get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► it's not there never talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► it's always circuitous in there they end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► up talking about something completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► different and it's kind of hard to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► that in a film you know you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► can't really talk around the subject for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► two hours unless you're Steven Spielberg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► in your writing Lincoln because Lincoln [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► you know has the you have the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► to have him give these big parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► speeches and bon mot said they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► have to tell the story because we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► but when you're trying to do a biopic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► when you're trying to do something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► that so I mean it will be really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► interesting to see if he can tackle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► something like the Steve Jobs move for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► instance I almost like the idea of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► a really long scenes we've seen what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► happens when circuit short scenes in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► movie where he has to do a lot of setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► back-and-forth I think my objection to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► like studio 60 I don't love it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► my objection is that he first of all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► don't think he really got forgets how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► write sketch-comedy I know you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► have disagreed about this but some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► the sketches that supposed to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► most hilarious are really really not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► know I agree with you that doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► it's not a funny show and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► impossible to go out and say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► this is the show that is the funniest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► show that everybody loves like that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► of build up you just write your story so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► that then so I feel like he he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► afraid very early on in the scripting of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► that show and moves away from what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► set out to be and then you get the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► broad characters John Goodman character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► jonathan is so great on the west wing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► and then just so brought in bizarre as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► that judge on the on the studio 60 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► then he sort of gets a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► self-referential we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► we've got a boost ratings we should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► things like have pregnancies and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► people get locked you know it we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► do you know where they locked in a room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► and then hey Amanda piece character gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► pregnant and then they're locked on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► roof in that same episode we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► about it gets a little bit less bizarre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► preferential yeah i mean i do think and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► some of that the newsroom suffers from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► also i want to talk about the news right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► yeah i know that you don't like the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► i actually you like it i think it took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► while i think it took a while to develop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► and get to a place where I really liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► it and was in favor of the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► because there are so many characters I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► cho who do you start off as unlikable um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► will the jeff daniels character more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► he reminds me and in the later episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► he starts to remind me more of like Toby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► the wedding or he's just he's cranky but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► he's like underneath it's because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► so frustrated with the back that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► this stuff has never worked out so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► like the newsroom but i think it i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► like the women on the newsroom I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► they're I i think that circuit has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► attacked someone fairly simple as for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► not writing women well and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► is a fair critique on the newsroom I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► want to say that when you spend Wilson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► will McAvoy I don't think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► single and i challenge anyone to find me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► I don't think there's a single rider out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► there with better character naming shops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► in Arizona will McAvoy Toby Ziegler exam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► seaboard nationalized he does do a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► they feel very real at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► Zuckerberg who would have thought yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► yes circuited women was something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► kind of wanted to talk about but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► always wary about it because I do feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► that circle gets an unjust rep for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► amount of oh he doesn't treat women he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► doesn't write women while he writes them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► as crazy but not manic pixie dream real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► crazy just crazy out of their mind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► there are some characters i agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► but this witness's character on newsroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► la Mer Mac Mac yeah alright so Mackenzie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► is a little bit crazy but at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► time someone who clearly has PTSD who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► been in overseas for the last three four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► years it is coming back and adjusting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2337">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► real like there's a lot about her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► character that rings true and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► she's overwritten at parts but at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► same time i get i get really frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► reading articles online that's like as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► woman you should feel ashamed of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► and I'm like you know I last there well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► no I mean I i have my problems away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► wearing certain television yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► you know I mean I'm not saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► Aaron Sorkin deserves a gold star and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► 10 out of 10 on the way he portrays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► women but he certainly doesn't a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► realistically been a lot of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► writers too and I and I i hate to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► this but we are actually running up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► against hard time limit right now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► so used to having an hour and a half to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► two hours to talk about the subject to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► death and then have recently 25 minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► time slot so I'm asking anyone will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► leave us with a favorite Sorkin wine or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► dam breaks get one no no I hate yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► you're going to spot on to yeah yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► can only carry on a tradition i need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► I i worked with josh Molina's sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► that there has to be some glaring in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► everything that's been comfortable party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► started flying over perhaps we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► explain going to the assembled audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► I don't think we've got a child sorry we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► incomparable com there's a there's a 127 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► episode archive in which you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► talking to him about the origins of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► blending and many another thing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► freshman has been and knows everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► so um I i have about 250 favorite west [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► wing episodes but the one that came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► mind when you raise this question here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► is the scene where Jed Bartlet talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► down the doctor laura style radio host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► who doesnt sit he goes through her whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► religious opposition to you is a wedding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► at the radio correspond right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► white house right and he doesn't stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► the light at the end of it at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► this teardown we talked about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► should I stone my wife because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► worked on the Sabbath whatever else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► in this building where the president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► stands nobody sits and then she slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► ashamedly has to stand up gotta just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► love that I could watch that over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► over again when you got a favorite at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► every single moment in sports night I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► really i love i love a lot of sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► night it is my favorite go to show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► i just put in so i don't know i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► steal my favorite my favorite sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► night moment which I think of a lot as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► writer which is an episode where Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► decided like has writer's block and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► there's a sexual cases it's not that bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► let me see what you got the Flyers play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► but yeah the temples tonight in a hockey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► game and they 1423 yeah that fascinates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► for me as a writer because i have days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► like that anyway we're going to wrap up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► here i'd like to thank my panel serenity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► Caldwell Lex Friedman jeff carlson and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYNGvD0/2505">TS</a>]