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131: Professor Siracusa`s Anime 101

 

00:00:07   the incomparable number 131 marks 2013 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/7">TS</a>]

00:00:14   welcome back to the incomparable i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/14">TS</a>]

00:00:17   your host Jason smell and this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/17">TS</a>]

00:00:19   exciting episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/19">TS</a>]

00:00:21   unlike most episodes of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/21">TS</a>]

00:00:23   uncomfortable where I sort of pick a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25   topic and it's a topic that pleases me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27   and and I i see if other people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/27">TS</a>]

00:00:30   interested in in saying nice things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   horrible things about the topic that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/32">TS</a>]

00:00:33   pleases me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/33">TS</a>]

00:00:34   this is something that I've been calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   John siracusa makes us watch anime and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39   basically I said to John pick a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   of movies that you like and I will watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/41">TS</a>]

00:00:44   them and then we'll talk about them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/44">TS</a>]

00:00:47   that's what happened so joining me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/47">TS</a>]

00:00:50   of course is John siracusa he is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/50">TS</a>]

00:00:53   ringmaster he tells us what to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55   hi John hello jason i hope you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/55">TS</a>]

00:00:58   entertained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/58">TS</a>]

00:00:59   I was but we'll get to that also joining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01   me on this journey of watching watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/61">TS</a>]

00:01:04   these two movies that John instructed us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/64">TS</a>]

00:01:07   to the two people who took up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/67">TS</a>]

00:01:08   challenge our Tony sindelar hi Tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/68">TS</a>]

00:01:12   hi good to have you back boy you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   all the time now I I don't know why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/74">TS</a>]

00:01:17   a major i am yeah I reply to emails at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   standard yes that's right you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21   nothing better to do than be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/81">TS</a>]

00:01:22   podcast it's that kind of season in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/82">TS</a>]

00:01:25   England you know a lot of Snowden that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   true that's a good point that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/87">TS</a>]

00:01:28   point maybe we lose all the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30   englanders in the in the summertime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32   also joining us is Lisa Schmeisser hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/92">TS</a>]

00:01:35   Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/95">TS</a>]

00:01:36   hi it's a pleasure to be here it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38   to have you as always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/98">TS</a>]

00:01:39   so our topic it's two films by satoshi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/99">TS</a>]

00:01:45   kon is that right John I google for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/105">TS</a>]

00:01:48   before the show figuring some what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50   going to say this guy's name I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/110">TS</a>]

00:01:51   know how to pronounce that I came up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   with nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/113">TS</a>]

00:01:53   so I'm we should just preemptively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   apologize for what will undoubtedly be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   the terrible mispronunciation of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/117">TS</a>]

00:02:00   Japanese p.m. free japanese person's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02   name yeah we are sorry still chic on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/122">TS</a>]

00:02:05   animated film director in Japan passed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/125">TS</a>]

00:02:08   away in 2010 made for features and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/128">TS</a>]

00:02:12   some shows is that right John something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/132">TS</a>]

00:02:15   like that something like that i haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/135">TS</a>]

00:02:16   seen everything he's done but I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/136">TS</a>]

00:02:18   the well-known ones and we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/138">TS</a>]

00:02:22   talk about perfect blue made in 1997 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/142">TS</a>]

00:02:25   millennium actress made in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   2001a I i watch these on an airplane as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/147">TS</a>]

00:02:32   we were saying before the show jon said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/152">TS</a>]

00:02:35   that might not be the best place to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/155">TS</a>]

00:02:37   it since it's some point they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   animated boobs like oh god who saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/159">TS</a>]

00:02:42   but nobody saw it I was I was prepared I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/162">TS</a>]

00:02:45   suspected there might be animated boobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/165">TS</a>]

00:02:48   at some point and there there were john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/168">TS</a>]

00:02:51   i imagine that you have opening remarks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/171">TS</a>]

00:02:54   or would like to at least set the stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   for this and then and then presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/176">TS</a>]

00:02:57   will talk and then you'll reveal your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   true feelings at the end is that how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   this is gonna work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/181">TS</a>]

00:03:02   I don't know will say i do have opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04   comments but I think we can just talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   about both of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/186">TS</a>]

00:03:06   alright always together as a group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/186">TS</a>]

00:03:08   that's excellent yeah i'm i'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   surprised at how few people in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   rotating cast of thousands on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/192">TS</a>]

00:03:15   incomparable are into anime we can find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/195">TS</a>]

00:03:18   people who like books and fantasy novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20   and science fiction and television and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21   movies but no anime people so that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   the think the genesis of the show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   that you know I i wish we had more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/205">TS</a>]

00:03:29   people talk about any with and I I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31   to pick some movies to throw at people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/211">TS</a>]

00:03:34   who aren't necessarily big anime fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/214">TS</a>]

00:03:37   and then see what we have to to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   about it so I picked these two movies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42   particular because i think they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/222">TS</a>]

00:03:45   interesting examples for people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/225">TS</a>]

00:03:48   not a giant fans of my first love you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   are a fan of anime you've already seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/230">TS</a>]

00:03:51   these movies it's like discussing Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/231">TS</a>]

00:03:52   Wars you know it's like not maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54   that level but if they're very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/234">TS</a>]

00:03:55   known popularly never do that on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   graph exactly you know but the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/237">TS</a>]

00:04:00   picked these two is 12 by the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02   director as you as you noted so kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/242">TS</a>]

00:04:05   like holding one of the variable study [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/245">TS</a>]

00:04:06   if we can they both have female leads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/246">TS</a>]

00:04:09   they're both set in kind of a realistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   world with you know certain fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   elements always there by artistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/253">TS</a>]

00:04:14   license kind of their not well known by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/254">TS</a>]

00:04:18   non ma fans did did have you ever heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   of these movies before I suggested Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   either one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/262">TS</a>]

00:04:22   no never yes no not even just like title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/262">TS</a>]

00:04:25   recognition so that's why they're good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/265">TS</a>]

00:04:26   yeah this could have been fictional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   titles from that you made up right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31   really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/271">TS</a>]

00:04:32   and the final reason is they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/272">TS</a>]

00:04:35   conform to the most commonly known anime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/275">TS</a>]

00:04:37   stereotypes you don't know what anime is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   and someone says the board what picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/279">TS</a>]

00:04:40   pops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/280">TS</a>]

00:04:41   your head it's like I'm not like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   giant robot school girls in uniforms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   animals bringing teenagers magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48   monsters giant eyeballs blue hair like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   all at once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/290">TS</a>]

00:04:51   yes basically star Blazers really do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/291">TS</a>]

00:04:54   do not speak LOL i love Star Blazers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/294">TS</a>]

00:04:57   saying they're right so we're off to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/297">TS</a>]

00:05:01   have it and maybe a monkey but ya know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/301">TS</a>]

00:05:04   that speed racer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/304">TS</a>]

00:05:04   hmm yeah and so that's what most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06   think of when they hear anime and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08   wanted to counter that because i'm a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/308">TS</a>]

00:05:11   of anime but not so much a fan of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   stereotypical anime so that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/313">TS</a>]

00:05:14   picked these two movies and I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   provide an interesting contrast to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   other spoken about in the sequence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/318">TS</a>]

00:05:21   viewed one after the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/321">TS</a>]

00:05:22   yes they do i watch them back-to-back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/322">TS</a>]

00:05:25   yeah that's it but it's kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/325">TS</a>]

00:05:28   nice double header and so that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30   that's my opening right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/330">TS</a>]

00:05:31   the idea behind this I have to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   confession i watch these movies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/333">TS</a>]

00:05:36   alphabetical order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   Jason and you're watching on a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/338">TS</a>]

00:05:42   watch them in the wrong order we'll talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/342">TS</a>]

00:05:43   about them in the right order and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   think that yes that would be good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/345">TS</a>]

00:05:46   perfect blue which features my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/346">TS</a>]

00:05:50   pop idol band of all time job with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/350">TS</a>]

00:05:54   exclamation points eh am ! it ! [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/354">TS</a>]

00:05:58   broadband name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/358">TS</a>]

00:05:59   yes I believe it is it's in the titles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/359">TS</a>]

00:06:03   and it's on their posters and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/363">TS</a>]

00:06:04   good idea to check out the id3 tag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/364">TS</a>]

00:06:07   information on my music collection to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   see what's gonna Ram you you were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/369">TS</a>]

00:06:13   crazed fan who is very angry that mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16   left the band aren't you a better is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   trio anyway so this this movie is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/378">TS</a>]

00:06:21   a singer and a pop band that hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/381">TS</a>]

00:06:25   quite made it big they've been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/385">TS</a>]

00:06:26   kinda small-time named cham and mema [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/386">TS</a>]

00:06:29   quits the band to become an actress and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/389">TS</a>]

00:06:33   she's in this TV show called the double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/393">TS</a>]

00:06:37   bind and she's got a small part and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/397">TS</a>]

00:06:41   fans and some of her management is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/401">TS</a>]

00:06:42   of upset because she giving up a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   thing with this pop group to become a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/404">TS</a>]

00:06:47   an actress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/407">TS</a>]

00:06:50   meanwhile her band which is now a duo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52   actually gets on the charts with a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   so she may be feel some regret or does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   she and so that's that's sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/416">TS</a>]

00:06:59   the basic the basics of it except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   there's a there's a stalker who has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/421">TS</a>]

00:07:04   website there's some really awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/424">TS</a>]

00:07:08   performer and early world-wide-web done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/428">TS</a>]

00:07:11   in this movie OS night explaining what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/431">TS</a>]

00:07:14   websites are two people save that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   I want to have an in-depth discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   about that movie before we transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/438">TS</a>]

00:07:19   because I've got some sorry shots I key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/439">TS</a>]

00:07:22   part of the movie how you explain the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   internet to people in 1998 yeah one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/444">TS</a>]

00:07:27   the reasons I wanted you to watch this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/447">TS</a>]

00:07:28   movie first was because of the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30   scene which is a misdirect i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32   if you remember it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/452">TS</a>]

00:07:33   no yes yes it's got the robot battle at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   first both of these movies start with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   misdirect it's right that that are are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   hat tip to what you'd expect from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   anime movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/461">TS</a>]

00:07:42   exactly and so you got well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   certainly the person with the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/464">TS</a>]

00:07:45   rangers and everything like that and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/465">TS</a>]

00:07:46   you come in like the title tells you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   nothing like you said what the heck is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/468">TS</a>]

00:07:49   perfect blue mean means nothing to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   going in even if you see no that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   know the plot you just summarize what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   does that have to do with perfect little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/475">TS</a>]

00:07:56   nose and you see the people singing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   they run out on stage and then then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/478">TS</a>]

00:08:02   you know to their little catchy j-pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   song and everything everyone's happy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/484">TS</a>]

00:08:05   their little pink dresses and stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   then it kind of goes discordant phase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/487">TS</a>]

00:08:10   two white and it's kind of like ominous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   which is not what you would expect from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   starting with power rangers then j-pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   people then kind of like a weird white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/496">TS</a>]

00:08:19   face the music goes away and it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   of like scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/501">TS</a>]

00:08:22   alright so three things within like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/502">TS</a>]

00:08:25   first 30 seconds of this movie or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/505">TS</a>]

00:08:26   first opening sequence and make are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   what people expect from anime anime but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/508">TS</a>]

00:08:31   what I really like about anime because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33   you can do anything you want animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/513">TS</a>]

00:08:34   yeah i think my wife looked over at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/514">TS</a>]

00:08:38   ipad while I was watching the first 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   seconds of this and I believe she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   actually rolled her eyes I thought no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44   i'm not watching the power rangers movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   John wouldn't have done that to mr. act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/526">TS</a>]

00:08:48   mr. act what it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   yeah exactly it does touch on something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/530">TS</a>]

00:08:53   that I really like about this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/533">TS</a>]

00:08:54   because i feel like it gives you an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57   excellent snapshot of pop culture life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/537">TS</a>]

00:09:00   and in japan in the late nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   nineties you have pop idols who have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   write elevated trains everywhere because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   they're not rolling in big bucks you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/548">TS</a>]

00:09:08   fan culture that seems to be as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   about scoring points on each other as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   is actually being fans of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   you've got these websites that are kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   of early there they're almost like early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/556">TS</a>]

00:09:17   social media I'd I felt like I got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/557">TS</a>]

00:09:21   eavesdrop on on a picture of another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   culture that was actually a huge drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   the movie for me were all the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/565">TS</a>]

00:09:26   quotidian details that go into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   entertainment that keeps Japan you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   abused I always have like a westerner is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/570">TS</a>]

00:09:33   fascination with anime because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35   pretty much everything I know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   japan trip has been from watching anime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/577">TS</a>]

00:09:40   and like you said the boring things will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   be I I feel like people in Japan don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   get this experience of an away because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   the boring things will be fascinating to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   me like just how people live in a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/588">TS</a>]

00:09:49   tiny apartments in the grocery shopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   stop lying little girl and she likes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   specific branch now who would not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   won and they can comment on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57   yeah and that got me thinking about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/597">TS</a>]

00:09:58   the square watermelons that were grown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   for the japanese market so that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   they did they did gross square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/602">TS</a>]

00:10:03   watermelons because she could stack them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/603">TS</a>]

00:10:04   more efficiently in the small spaces and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   is always the question in my mind is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   much of the stuff in his movies is made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/610">TS</a>]

00:10:11   how much is an exaggeration of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/611">TS</a>]

00:10:12   stereotype how much is just a plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15   boring accurate depiction of Japanese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/615">TS</a>]

00:10:16   life but to me it's like it's all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   all of a piece and it's like wow this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20   amazing you never know what is gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   a Japanese person i know we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/622">TS</a>]

00:10:23   actually live like that you crazy person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/623">TS</a>]

00:10:24   it's not it's just made up or what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/626">TS</a>]

00:10:26   yeah what you can as a rice cooker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28   what's the big deal you know me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/628">TS</a>]

00:10:29   it's so hard to separate the the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/629">TS</a>]

00:10:32   from reality but I that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   definitely a draw-off watching japanese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   animation that the boring stuff in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38   movies is fascinating to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/638">TS</a>]

00:10:41   oh yes mmm that was a big reason I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   paying attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/643">TS</a>]

00:10:44   um I saw the movie back in the nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   nineties when it first came out and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/646">TS</a>]

00:10:50   remember that as i watched it again this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/650">TS</a>]

00:10:51   time out to so I don't think I qualifies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/651">TS</a>]

00:10:54   anime fan but I have what I i do watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   it here and there arm goes to the shells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/656">TS</a>]

00:10:59   one of my favorite movies in the late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00   nineties John I think you and I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   discussion about a series called serial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   experiments lain yes not a big fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   that I like that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08   I like that one that I feel like we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   have a debate about that but when I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   back and read what I didn't like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   movie that much in the nineteen nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/674">TS</a>]

00:11:15   but when I went back and watched it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   saturday i really could appreciate how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/677">TS</a>]

00:11:20   tightly written it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/680">TS</a>]

00:11:21   because he he he has his little 4matic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   loop that he keeps returning to over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   over again about how much of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   identity is internal versus how much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   it is is thrust upon you and he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/689">TS</a>]

00:11:32   keeps returning to that light motif over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   and over again and when you're 21 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36   old and you've just made a major career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/696">TS</a>]

00:11:37   move and that cur happens to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39   public eye those questions are amplified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   and I was kind of blown away by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   cleverness of the plotting and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   character work that he did this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   around whereas it just kind of slid off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/707">TS</a>]

00:11:48   my brain last time I watched it yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/708">TS</a>]

00:11:51   know I i have some issues with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/711">TS</a>]

00:11:55   movie I liked it but I do have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   issues with it i think they're so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59   very there's a strange period where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/719">TS</a>]

00:12:02   were mima is doing her early acting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/722">TS</a>]

00:12:07   and I I felt like we were all supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   to be a little more concerned about her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/729">TS</a>]

00:12:12   well-being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/732">TS</a>]

00:12:13   then I actually was I felt like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   what's the big deal she's going to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   actress now it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/737">TS</a>]

00:12:18   let her be an actress right and and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   seemed for a while there I was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   why is this you know the popular wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/742">TS</a>]

00:12:25   even that successful white why didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   feel her angst and her doubt about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   is the right thing to be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   no I thought that she was I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   actually for a while I thought she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   handling it better than everybody around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   ya know she definitely she definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/757">TS</a>]

00:12:38   was that I think that's I think the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/758">TS</a>]

00:12:41   performance it's hard to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/761">TS</a>]

00:12:42   performances and movies aren't actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   their drawings right but i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46   performances that they give these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/766">TS</a>]

00:12:47   characters in the movie are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/767">TS</a>]

00:12:49   extremely subtle and complex it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/769">TS</a>]

00:12:53   I you know precisely for that reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   because like you know she she's she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   seems like it's used to determine person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   she's leaving this group she's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   go to this other thing and as you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   everyone else is all flipping out about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/783">TS</a>]

00:13:04   it but she's like no this is what I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   to do i'm just going to go forward and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   do it and you're wondering like is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   know is is she really is confident she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   putting out does she have some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/792">TS</a>]

00:13:13   doubts and i think that the movie does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/793">TS</a>]

00:13:14   good job of breaking that down slowly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17   so she starts to come apart it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   like oh she's just you know crazy from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   from the get-go and doesn't know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   going on like she she seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   normal person doing the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   that's exactly who you want to seeby i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   think in peril and a movie like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/809">TS</a>]

00:13:30   like a good person doing what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   supposed to do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33   a situation conspires to you know sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36   fantastical situation conspires to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   her you know in danger because the John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   she's an emotional John McClane is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   what a parallel of the cultural metaphor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   that I think kind of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   encapsulates it and this goes back is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/827">TS</a>]

00:13:50   from last season on sons of anarchy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   had an actress named ashley tisdale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54   portraying a hooker in which again at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   sons of anarchy so it's kind of water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   while whores but the big deal about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   Ashley Tisdale was she was in a bowl of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   the High School Musical movies and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   was a Disney kid the image of squeaky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   clean and all my god now she's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/846">TS</a>]

00:14:07   hooker on FX drama and I kind of got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/847">TS</a>]

00:14:10   idea that maybe there was that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   discomfort with a squeaky-clean yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/852">TS</a>]

00:14:15   adorooo being transposed into an overtly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/855">TS</a>]

00:14:18   sexual role and people were i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/858">TS</a>]

00:14:22   how to handle this person who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/862">TS</a>]

00:14:23   exercising free agency of her career and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   mema herself may have been ambivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   about it because let's face it when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/867">TS</a>]

00:14:30   go from putting on a little dress and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/870">TS</a>]

00:14:31   dancing to an audience to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/871">TS</a>]

00:14:32   gang-raped in a nightclub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/872">TS</a>]

00:14:34   um you are probably going to ask a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   questions about what about the direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/876">TS</a>]

00:14:37   you're going in is really the right one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   yeah IIM and by the time we get to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/879">TS</a>]

00:14:42   point makes sense I guess what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/882">TS</a>]

00:14:43   saying is that is that she seems very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   centered for that it from the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/885">TS</a>]

00:14:48   and everybody around her seem so far the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/888">TS</a>]

00:14:51   other way that it seems really weird for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   me that they were they were so far apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/893">TS</a>]

00:14:54   i think that's a little bit of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   culture of you know these idol singers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59   that like the Phantom around the methods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01   part was part of the reason she wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/901">TS</a>]

00:15:02   to get out of that right and them around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/902">TS</a>]

00:15:03   them is so insane you know right down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/903">TS</a>]

00:15:06   that the management and the people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08   know and like there are some hard how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/908">TS</a>]

00:15:09   stable like look she's going to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11   actress but she's got to do that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/911">TS</a>]

00:15:12   and you know but everyone else in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/912">TS</a>]

00:15:15   life like she's escaping you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   that's why she seems in building one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   when the 22 people she left start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   become successful is like mama you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   maybe I should have gone with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/923">TS</a>]

00:15:24   whatever on the other hand I'm also kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   of glad to be out of that so i like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   like that moment actually where she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/928">TS</a>]

00:15:29   like you know it's fine i'm doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/929">TS</a>]

00:15:30   now this is the right this is the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   thing for me to do I a so another thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/932">TS</a>]

00:15:35   I went on to bring up that's in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/935">TS</a>]

00:15:36   first scene when there when she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   announced her departure is the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   the the guy who I guess we call me mania [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/941">TS</a>]

00:15:44   maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   Mina yeah is the stalker he is drawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/946">TS</a>]

00:15:50   which is like his my eyes are so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   apart that you know is why God in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/952">TS</a>]

00:15:55   temples and we frequently we feel only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/955">TS</a>]

00:15:58   1i right his face obscured brighter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/958">TS</a>]

00:16:01   they're like kind of haunting black eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03   and weird teeth and he's a super creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/963">TS</a>]

00:16:06   almost like deformed face guy and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/966">TS</a>]

00:16:12   thought that was really strange to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/972">TS</a>]

00:16:13   dead and there's a reason I you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/973">TS</a>]

00:16:16   it's it was clear to me at the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/976">TS</a>]

00:16:19   that this guy was really obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   creepy and a stalker and that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   probably a reason why he was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   obviously creepy and stalker because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/985">TS</a>]

00:16:26   otherwise you try to conceal him a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   little bit more her but I still I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   found it I found it disturbing and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   also really strange that he was so weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/993">TS</a>]

00:16:36   it from the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   it's a convention of automated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/998">TS</a>]

00:16:39   apparently it's called donk gon k and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/999">TS</a>]

00:16:42   the idea is that you're something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:45   you're supposed to be absurdly ugly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   you deliberately and without subtlety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:50   and it's supposed to be a signifier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   character and plot development but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   because I think I guess what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:55   animation style this movie and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:58   this stop it's not the gigantic heads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:01   with eyes that take up two-thirds of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:02   surface and spiky blue hair right but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04   the other hand like if I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   categorize to know this is like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:07   realistic animation the people have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   proportions of human beings their arms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   and legs are the correct length their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:12   heads are the more or less the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   size in proportion to their bodies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:15   so you're like alright just you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:18   could almost be rotoscope right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:19   realistic but it's not because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:20   look at the people i mean he's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:21   obvious example if you look at anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   they are not actually correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:24   proportion they fool you into thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   you're watching the world with regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:27   people but the trick of the animation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:30   you know really their eyes are a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:31   bit bigger than they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   and you know there's very few lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35   making up to do that it's it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:38   expressive than it would be if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:39   rotoscoped for ECG or something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   because the things that they draw can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   exist in real life so this is if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:44   tried to make a CG version of that of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   the mania guy it would just be it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:49   take you out of the movie it would break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   math it already kind of it adds to hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53   unsettling he looks right is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   other characters especially frequency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   and crowd scenes right the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:58   characters he's around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   kind of generic normal-looking right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02   he is he is kind of the most cartoony I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05   mean that even just like the other fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   like this with them are benign fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   York's objectify are nevertheless but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   still are at least not overtly crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:14   they look strange to like they become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16   more character likeness is a sucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   Kwanzaa movies there's a lot of the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:21   know the people you look at one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   like it's an old person but if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:24   down if you lined up all the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   you'd be like wow now we're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:27   getting into caricatures over there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:28   almost like a loony toons type thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   it's it's a gradual gradation i wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:33   they hadn't made him so ugly because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   feel like that really tip the hand early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37   on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:37   um yeah since this movie does rely on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:40   surprise up i'm going to bring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42   spoiler horn but since the movie does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:43   rely on a surprise twist into excuse to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:46   try and explain everything that goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:47   I felt that if you have somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   looks up so obviously sinister and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:52   behaves in such an obviously unhinged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:53   away cuz he's the first one to draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   blood movie yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:56   mhm then you know your sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   broadcasting here be a villain whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00   if it's somebody who is deceptively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   normal-looking um I forget the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   the pornographer character but what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   some photographer guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   yeah yeah the photographer / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:09   pornographer one of one of the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   thought was interesting was the way he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:12   casually holds out his hand and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   assistant puts in another camera and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15   just keeps the moment going and and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   obvious he's doing a job and he has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   qualms about the way he's packaging and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   marketing nema and I actually thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:22   that was a little bit spookier and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24   creepier than you know internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:25   wall-eyed internet loner runs website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:28   well that's that's kind of like to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:29   that she would you know that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   make a point of emphasizing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:32   objectification is the pop idol and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   wants to be like a serious actress but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   then just ends up falling back into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:37   same traps like I guess this is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   kind of have to do but in the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:40   now here I am doing these things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   you can tell she's not as comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44   with it she would like to be and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46   that's eventually to her breakdown is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:49   that like she was trying to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51   Escape that world when she has that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:52   quote where she says well a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   people have gone to a lot of effort for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:55   me to do this I don't want to let them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   down and you can tell she really resents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   that too at the same time maybe she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:02   not doesn't want to be you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:03   whole I have to please my superiors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   betters and the males in my life kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:08   thing that she's going back into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   there's a lot I mean for a movie that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:11   exploitative of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:12   you know if people look at this all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   know japanese movie with these pop stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   and are going to be naked and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:17   gonna be beautiful and they and they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:20   right and they are but it's like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   it does an excellent job of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:23   using that to good effect and i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:26   think the nudity in the movie is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   example of that because it there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:29   of it relative to you know most non non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:33   adult anime our guests but it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:36   used in a way that conveys the plight of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:39   me man being photographed like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:42   viewers made to feel uncomfortable at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   the latest right and all and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:46   incredibly well done like it very rarely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   have I seen the nudity and live-action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:51   movies that made me feel as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:52   uncomfortable as the animated movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   this movie which is exactly what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:55   supposed to do like they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   don't try to have it both ways don't try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58   so you're gonna be titillated and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   it's mostly just entirely uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01   terrible the reason i'm laughing so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:05   just lands terrible i like the I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:08   like the way that the the rape scene is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:11   handled where it's it's the shooting of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:14   a rape scene it's not a rape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16   it's a shooting of a rape scene in a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18   show and so you have them preparing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:23   be on camera and then there's action and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   then the action happens and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:26   cut and then they're out of character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   again and and and then they let's do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:31   again which really gets there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   something about that that it's the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   know it's this work and it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   horrible unto itself it's that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:40   horrible in this context of the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:43   that they're doing and there's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:44   great moment where the where they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   the rapist actor lean screens down her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:50   and says I'm sorry about this just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   it's fine but it's it's a that's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:55   moment everyone's trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   professional but i think the scene does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58   a great job of saying look no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   professional you try to be it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:01   difficult thing to do for an actress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03   like this is this is applying you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:06   this this is a stressful situation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   her and it's a difficult thing to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:09   her first time doing it even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:10   everyone involved is professional and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   trying to do things the right way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:13   whatever it's you know it's not easy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15   I this all builds to having a realistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:18   breakdown of this character who is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:21   flake is not a weak-willed is doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:24   right thing but nevertheless that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:27   didn't conspire to to finally break her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:30   down this writer by the way whoever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:33   the writer of this of this movie loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   must love Jodie Foster because there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:38   like at least three aspects of jodie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:41   foster that have all been rolled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:42   together here because the plot of double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   bind is essentially the silence of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   lambs it seems because there's a serial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48   killer who's taking women's skin off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:50   because he wants to be a woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   there's the rape scene which is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:55   have the even directly referenced is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:58   what jodie foster did in the accused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:01   right and of course the know nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:06   knows what it's like to have a horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   murderous stalker then Jodie Foster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   because john hinckley was basically her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:13   stalker and then shot ronald reagan so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:16   thought that was kind of interesting too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:17   that it's but-but-but mima gets it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:20   at once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:21   yay good good luck with that and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:24   doesn't handle it well which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   surprising but it to my favorite my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   favorite part of this movie is but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   done all this work and they've built up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:31   this situation oh and by the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33   obvious nuh some of the the mania [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35   stalker thing I like that aspect another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   reason i recommend this movie to new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:38   people is that if you go in thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   anime is gonna be dumb you'll be like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   this dumps gonna be that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:43   yeah you guys are looking at ash Park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:44   for that but like you like it's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46   nice misdirect because there are plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   of you know and lifetime movies where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:51   the creepy stalker guy is the creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53   stalker I for the whole move the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:54   movie and then you know that's just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56   it is right this is not the case missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   but anyway I love this all comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1438">TS</a>]

00:23:59   together and they start doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:00   sequence which is losing it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:03   start intercutting her scenes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   whatever work that she's doing with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07   life in such a way that the first time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10   watch this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:11   I actually did find myself questioning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   what had previously understood to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:16   reality of this movie which is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:17   they're trying to make you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:18   normally like I'm you know I'm none too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   smart for that they're not gonna like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:21   wait a second like they they cut back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:24   and forth and that the lines in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   movie are such a perfect fit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29   possible explanations of this crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   person who think that she was a pop star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   and actress you know what I mean yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:34   and they and they cut back and forth to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   her real life and her movies I without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:39   holding your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:40   and-and-and without dumbing it down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   without like trying to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:43   everyone follows along if you go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:46   and look at it it's all completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:47   legitimate and they're not cheating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   it's not you know whatever but it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   does mess you up and so the this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   a center part of this movie where I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54   lost even watching multiple times you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:57   start to get a lot even though I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:58   you know what is the actual you start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1498">TS</a>]

00:24:59   get lost a little bit and that i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:02   haven't felt in a live-action movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04   the longest time where they trust the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06   audience enough to intentionally confuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:08   them without using a cheat to convey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   what the what the character is feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   and it's not done with like really fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:13   cuts your special effects for dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   music is just seeing after senior like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:16   we need a second because because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   you're doing is it since the movies like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   this the whole way doesn't hold your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   hand doesn't have like tons of excessive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:25   exposition the creator's assume you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   not dumb you are paying attention and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:30   when you're paying attention when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:31   start to do that you're like wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:32   second i'm going to figure this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:33   out okay so how so this note really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36   she's just a crazy person all time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:37   she thinks she's a pop star that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   reality is that you know which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   actually the case is also another case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   of a misdirect but I i love that I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46   that payoff of having earned that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:49   confusing middle section of your wee-wee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   barrel towards the Big Finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   yeah I guess we we should if we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:56   gotten to it yet we should at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:57   officially blow the spoiler warning here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:02   you should probably watch this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:06   before you listen to the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:07   podcast or just you know suck it up it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:11   it's just the way it is it this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13   has been a long time you should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:14   watched it already it's been out for 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:16   yeah Jason why have you watching this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   movie I know exactly i did I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:21   watched John I know all about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   so here's the thing i want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   the internet and phantom because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   that's an important part of this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:28   and and and i want to talk about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30   little bit + mcintosh perform its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   awesome before we get there mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   didn't notice that there's some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:35   technology product that's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   got a fake name in the movie it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   don't know whether it's like a sony or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   HP or something like that but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   something in its faked up but the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:44   box is rendered immaculately I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:47   that was hilarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:48   no I want to talk about the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:53   sequence that ends up with with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55   reveal of who is what's really going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   here because what it felt like to me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   loved the playing with fantasy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   reality where we think we're watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03   her life but it's actually the the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:06   she's on and you know and we wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:09   she's going crazy you know sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   she's confused is the show i'm on where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   is my real life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:14   right exactly i like i like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   they're so there's the sequence of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   scenes where she wakes up in her bedroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   and crazy things happen and then she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:21   wakes up in her bedroom again and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:24   crazy things happen and then she wakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:25   up in her bedroom again and I felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   that went on too long I felt like I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:31   here's my theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:32   my theory is that the filmmakers were so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:35   concerned about smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:38   audience members figuring out right away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:41   that her the managers assistant was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:45   actually kind of a crazy stalker because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   she's the one who has access to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49   information that's on the website and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:50   all that is access to the apartment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   she's doing as a breakdown every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   mean if you want to the second time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   is so obviously like how do you not see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:57   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:58   well i saw i saw the first time so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   theory is that they did the reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   spinning stuff again and again again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04   again to make it so kind of crazy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07   confusing that you lose track of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:11   thing that you you thought at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12   beginning which is which is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   happened to me and so that when the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   assistant is revealed to actually be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   crazy stalker who then I was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:21   yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22   from what I thought earlier but I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25   just thought it was too much I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:26   thought that it that little kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   world whirligig of of crazy is it real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:31   or is it not when on like a little too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   long like they were trying a little too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   hard to just you know put a blindfold on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:38   the audience and spin him around a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   times still they were diseased it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:41   actually that long you should watch that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43   section of second time because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44   pretty darn type i think where the fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   alive where the fish dad with the fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   alive where the fish the first one I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   like okay this is cool at and when she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   wakes up again Mike hot that's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   and then when they did the third time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:55   thought yeah i thought okay i don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:58   a good feeling of like day-in day-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   kind of thing like where you know day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:03   after day she finds herself waiting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   kind of like an alcoholic blacking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:06   where you find yourself back in our like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:07   Groundhog Day you find yourself back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   again in each day you go through it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   it gets worse it gets a little less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   coherent as time goes on it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   kind of one of those little bit like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   fish that's the signifier the users with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   a little bit weak because there again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21   they're relying on you to remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:22   state of the fish and what does it mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   that they're alive and YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:25   immediately put together that if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   alive it's a recreation you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:28   they could have used something else for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:31   that but I I i like that there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34   explicit exposition that I mean because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:37   they had built everything up they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   have to explain to you because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:40   like oh that makes sense that yes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   know it's not it's not a cheat and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   not out of nowhere it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:45   character had one line in the movie it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   the one that it makes total sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:48   it would be the one that was hysterical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:49   crying when she decided to do the nude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   scene all that stuff like she was nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   from the beginning of the movie even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54   you didn't see it like you didn't see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:55   for the same reason that maybe didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   see it because you just have you are as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:58   the assistant is like a side character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1798">TS</a>]

00:29:59   psycho she just stared help me whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   you know what you should be paying more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:04   attention to the air and early anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06   that was my feeling is that there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:07   little too much of that and it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   think just trying to get enough of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12   misdirect so that when that twist came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:13   later on you would have you you were off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:16   of the first thing at least that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17   played for me because you know I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:20   yet that was that it pushed it a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   too far for my taste I thought they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   trying a little too hard and unlike the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26   sixth sense i think once you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:27   twisted this movie it doesn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   unless entertaining like it's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   like the twist its fine its there it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   what it is but it's that the strength of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:38   the movie is not in that part in all its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   in the characterization and the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   things unfold like i like i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43   fact that was kind of realistically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   animated and like you can imagine what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:48   the way you describe this movie was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:49   probably inaccurate because i haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   seen enough brian de palma movies but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:52   you say it's like a brian de palma movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:53   shot in anime because you could make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:56   live-action version of this movie like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   the fantasy elements are our only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:01   fantastical in terms of mental breakdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   type of things you know what I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   you could you could do it in live-action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   it's it plays straight and fair and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:10   are reasonably well structured thriller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:13   if a little bit conventional but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:14   details of it would really make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   oh my gosh to the i would love to see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:19   live-action effect of the imaginary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:22   meetin ya leaping from leaping from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:25   street light red light red light because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   that is that isn't hungry Reeves it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:30   wonderful i think it would make a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   live action movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:33   definitely yeah oh yeah well it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:34   supposed to be before the funding fell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35   through was not the story there right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   that's according to wikipedia and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   wikipedia is never wrong never so can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:45   talk about the the performer which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:49   set up in the movie by the it by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   stalker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:52   believe it or not that's one another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   reason that i recommend this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:55   because the best anime is created by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   obsessive people and the the perfect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:00   most perfect example this movie is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   incredibly obsessive depiction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   Macintosh performer 5300 can't tell but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   what exactly did it set and the setup of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:09   same in the box and the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   enough imagine imagine me watching movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:13   not knowing anything about it but chosen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   for me specifically by John siracusa and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:18   a Macintosh perform appears I i had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   pause the movie on the airplane to laugh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:23   and laugh and laugh until tears came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   down my face it's did you see it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27   every part of that was right like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30   yeah the startup screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   oh it was so nice to see that startup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34   screen again the hardware itself the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:37   menu bar i think the sound was wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:41   a bit but that was it was well they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43   the people drawing it on control the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:44   sound of the menu bar with little icons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46   in the finder folder labels the netscape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49   contemporary version escape splash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   screen the UI and here's the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   drives me nuts about you know regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   live-action movies right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   they have live action movies with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   actual real computer and like it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   like an actual real macintosh and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   still don't look as realistic as this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04   drawing Pacific crazy stuff in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   screen and the mouse is from like a ps2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   or something yeah but what are you doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   you have the real computer for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   guys just have a pen and paper and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   no we're gonna get this exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   every single part of that you know real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18   URL she looks on the papers and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:19   actual your relative something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   backslashes instead of slashes and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   crazy like its it you know it's not hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   to do but it's just so amazing to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:28   and like same thing with the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30   things you see the coffeemaker the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:31   supermarket the stuff that we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   recognize those pathetic because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:34   don't know what the real things are but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:35   that obsessive attention to detail is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:38   what makes great anime great and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   little things like that you know all up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   to the big things i had i just love it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   mean i'll be i'll be honest of course i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   was going to notice the mac but i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:47   also obsessively notice the all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:50   labels of the prices on the shelves in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:53   the supermarket so it wasn't just those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   it wasn't just the performer but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:56   performer you know it really funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   really funny detail but also what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:02   says the idea that she has to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   what room he has to explain to me mama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06   how the internet works essentially and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:09   and how it's a homepage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   basically it's a website for this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13   for her fans and and then she sees that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:19   there are these posts that are allegedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   by her that no details of her life but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:24   aren't her and that's how she begins to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   wonder if she's going crazy because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   doesn't say these things and yet they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   accurate right there dude down two down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:33   to detail which is super creepy until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   they're not until they're not psychotic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   break the life she wants she has one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:40   the saddest little lines is when she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   reads the 333 cyclist oh I guess I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45   too hard you go today and you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:46   she has no recollection of it she's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   of sad that that all I guess I did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51   and she's just so beaten down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   resigned to the fact that somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:54   is is is eavesdropping on her life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:58   and marketing it and it's it's a further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00   symptom of her madness where she didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02   do that at all I always read that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04   like maybe she didn't do that matter now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:05   she's always figured I always assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   that she didn't and the assistant went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:10   to Harvard you can block the clothes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:11   that way when she did the killing she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:12   could then drop it off and there would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:13   be the plant there would be the seed of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   doubt in mimo in Minas mind right so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   she ever got arrested for she can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18   like well I guess I want to her juku and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:21   she would keep it down her own veracity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   right i mean that that woman was crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25   like a fox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:26   yeah she was she was yeah that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:29   thing you can do in anime like a hat of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:32   post section here that about like since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   this movie should be done it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:35   done in live-action why what's the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37   of doing animation like wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:38   wouldn't it be better and live action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   and and I actually love animation i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42   think there's things you can do an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:43   animation that I like so much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   than live action one of them is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:48   final scene where it's revealed the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49   is the you know the crazy person when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:53   when we see roomy as she sees herself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:56   and looks like a blood red clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2156">TS</a>]

00:36:00   version of mima but sometimes we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   like her reflection or we see her as she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   actually is it looks totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:05   and I guess you can do that with two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07   different actors in the movie or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   whatever but just think things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   you know that the fantasy elements that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:12   you can do when you draw things I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:15   also much of a piece i got like computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17   animations and I was gonna call you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   anything in computer animation like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:20   there's no limits its you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   whatever your imagination but even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:23   so than with computer animation with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   blank piece of paper you can really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   anything and there's no like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   black holes like we all you want to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:32   liquids or or you know skin or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   certain things that are really hard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   it's like well that's a whole big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:37   and you have to you know sink a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:38   disproportionate amount of time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   effort in this one thing because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:41   just get a guy with a pencil they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   literally draw anything to end to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:44   restrain yourself and draw the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   around you exactly as you see it but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48   only embellish it just the right moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:51   in just the right way to make creepy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   surreal or whatever is what i love about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   this this style of animation sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   more realistic style while still showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2217">TS</a>]

00:37:00   the flare that you can't really have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:01   live-action absolutely concur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   there was a movie out about Mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:04   monroe called Norma Jean in maryland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   where on mira sorvino played the Marilyn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:09   Monroe part and actually just played the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   Norma Jean part and watching those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   have scenes together was Marilyn having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:14   her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:15   am I crazy moment because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:18   horrible it was a horrible awkward movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20   to watch and I felt bad for everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:21   involved so we shouldn't we should move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:25   on so before we do that in it we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   sum up sum up our experience here for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:30   having everybody how did everybody feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   what's the final verdict of this in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34   end i don't think i'd recommend it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:35   somebody who's not already on the nerdly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:39   spectrum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:40   yeah but but that's just me because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:43   lot of things I think we were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:44   about are things that we kind of tweaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:45   to because of obsessive natures are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   geeky nature's my husband's a big fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:50   more and i still wouldn't recommend this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53   I don't think well I think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:54   things that we liked about it like John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   said you've got a medium where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   do these fantastical things and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   perfectly aesthetically consistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:01   plausible I'm afraid of the movie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   think that might actually be a turnoff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:04   to to some people but did you like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:08   that's what we want oh my god yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   I mean I liked it a lot better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:11   first time I saw which I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   considered something of victory to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:17   anyone about you i also enjoyed it i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   also seen it 10 or 11 or 12 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:22   but the dot remember it very struggling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:25   uh I mainly remember i remember that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   had a twist in it but I did not remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   what the twist was enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:30   you're an old person now it's new to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   yeah you know I also remembered that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   also it had disturbing visuals after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:37   twist which may have been part of why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:38   did not good memory i know somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:42   who's gonna get like impaled on like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:45   know a giant glass so spoiler that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:49   stuck with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50   oh the turnout was nothing that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   whatever screwdriver ice pick stabbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:55   westward chose not to retain that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:58   yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2338">TS</a>]

00:38:59   that isn't so good either I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   there was something about the following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:02   on the beta class even though I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   she's not be able to disturb you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:05   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06   yeah relatively speaking yeah i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09   physically at least she was intact but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:12   yeah I enjoyed it i think it works well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   as kind of a thriller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:15   um I'm not sure if i would recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   to somebody kind of seeking out on ma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:20   just because it's it is relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:21   different from a lot of other on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   everyone challenging it's much more tuna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   and so I it kind of does work is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28   mean it is you know very kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   grown-up adult movie as opposed to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:33   army made that may have adult themes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:34   it but also as can still have kind of be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   kind of more aimed at like a teenager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   kind of audience so yeah yeah I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:42   thought it was okay I I because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   watched in alphabetical order it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   difficult because this is not as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   movie is the other 1i think but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   woof jaxson we'll we'll get there have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:53   gets better as the agency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:55   this is a young man's movie full vigor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   yeah uh-huh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59   hey everyone nobody loves of pop idols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:02   more than me i have a website maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:06   you've seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:07   Evie but the you know like I said I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:11   weird weird stalker way he's drawn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:16   obviously the bad guy and then I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   picked up on the on the on the assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:21   being involved early on and you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:24   it was fine it was fun i enjoyed the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:29   enjoyed that reality fantasy blurring of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:31   the of the show within the show that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   TV series and how they change the Ark of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   the show when she become successful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38   make it more about her as the sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   who's confused and doesn't know reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   from fantasy which is hilarious because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:43   we're also seeing the reality and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46   fantasy of her own life so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   they've written her life into the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:50   and that makes it extra confusing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:53   her you know there's a lot to like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   i i i i don't know I i guess i go along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:58   with the with tony and lisa that I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:01   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:01   I've got some I've got some issues with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:05   it i suppose i really love the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:08   days of the web fans interacting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11   the with the their famous people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   might there might be issues there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16   was that was prescient I mean really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   this was 1997 so you always this retro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   know that was contemporary that was how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   I was gonna pretty much out and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:23   beautiful thing about that is that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   actually explains it correctly you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   you put the you around the location bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:28   those are real words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30   yeah yeah no she she may be a crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:33   stalker but she knows how to use format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:34   yeah that's how she becomes the crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37   starter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:38   yes she's she's very practiced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   maintaining that site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42   yeah so she's got it all figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44   there's appears what you do Jason wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:46   10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:47   watch the movie and then apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   improves and I think it actually does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:52   benefit from like reside watching you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   know what it was originally released in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:55   97 and really liked it and it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57   few more times and then coming back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:59   her like well this is going to be played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:00   out like you know seen this movie before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   it's kind of a one-trick pony I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   it it's not gonna it's not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:05   affecting i'm not going to be caught up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:06   with me just gonna kind of be but it got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:09   me again and I was able to notice more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   nuances this is not a movie that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:12   really about the story it's not about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   the twist it's more it's more about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16   emotion and if I don't maybe I'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:19   more into it than is there which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:20   typical thing with anime especially when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   it's it's dumped because i can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:23   that the performances that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25   understand are incredibly moving and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   heartfelt and been really maybe just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   someone reading lines I can't tell but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:32   it got me again it wrapped me up in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   but I i agree that the millennium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:35   actress is a better movie tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:39   that's all i have to say about that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41   let's move on to millennium actress 2001 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:44   opening this direction the surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:47   yes this is this is something almost out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   of space 1999 where if there's a moon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:52   base with a a a little sort of shall we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:58   say flower petal style that's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:02   it's pastor J that's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   a little opening and should the woman it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:08   has to go and and leave and no but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:12   can't go out there and she leaves him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:13   a rocket and you're thinking again what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:16   is this that i'm watching and it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:17   out that it is we cut to a guy watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:21   it on TV and he says this is always my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   favorite part and turns out that he and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:26   a cameraman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:27   are going to interview this famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   actress who were mostly in the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:32   forties and fifties now up through from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:36   the 47th sixties 36 panwar to ya-ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:40   Spanish start she starts during World [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:41   War Two and she stops pretty much when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   she's in her forties so up to almost the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:46   seventies i think is that that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   space movie wouldn't have been made any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:50   ground before nineteen seventy yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   like I said it looks in 3-space 1999 I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:55   oh yeah and and they are going to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   rare interview with her so it'sit's him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:00   and the cameraman and and they go to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:04   her house and and she comes out and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:08   I think you have something you said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   had something for me and he gives her a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:11   key and she's taken aback by this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:14   quite shocked it's the Rosebud number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   yeah basically he's so he isn't she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:19   talked about her garden how she loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:20   the flowers and his production company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   we learn is also called lotus is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   right yeah which is the flower that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:27   grows and she's so that's funny I grows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:28   flowers mrs. I know but it's not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:31   restart not into creepy stalker creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   in a fanboy yeah he's a total he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36   huge fan of hers who is who is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:37   interviewing her for a documentary about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:40   her life basically and she begins to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:43   tell her story of this this famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:46   actress and it's told in flashback and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:51   so for a while you're thinking okay i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54   get i get with this is going up see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:55   movies like this and then a funny thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57   happens which is the interviewer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00   cameraman are in the flashback as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   they're recording the flashback for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   documentary and thus begins millennium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07   actress where reality and fantasy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10   may have you may have just heard us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:11   talking about this for another movie are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13   blurred and and and uh it's fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:17   because they're interacting in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:20   flashback while also obviously cut to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:24   she's telling them the story and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   kind of delightful in the way that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   not your usual you know flashback with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:31   you know ripple dissolve to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   black-and-white of here's what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   instead they're like commenting on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   and kind of like chasing the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39   around through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:40   flashbacks and then it gets it gets even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43   weirder as it as it goes to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:47   where you get really confused about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:48   it could possibly be be happening and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:51   it's it's a yeah it's fascinating it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:54   a guy i really like this i thought i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:57   thought that it was great and i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:00   blurring of reality and fantasy and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:01   a weird afterward my wife said so how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   was that my said it's a weird movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:06   she said it looked weird and I said yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   but it's really good it's really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:09   really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10   I was really moved by it yeah oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:13   especially and what I love about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:14   movie is how you said it opens up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16   with the misdirect but I i will say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:20   it provides a beautiful bracketing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   towards the end of the movie where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:25   stands up its well that's bookings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:28   she sums up he sums up what you come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   realize about her and about the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   narrative and then she seems off into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   space and I thought what a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:37   metaphor for the end of the 20th century [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   because this movie I feel like it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   of a love letter to the people of Japan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   for everything they had to live through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:44   the 20th century and the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   they may have relied on to keep them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   going and when the journey becomes much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:51   more interesting than the destination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:52   and and you become much more optimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   about the future simply because you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56   a way to get there so I i was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   incredibly moved by this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   yeah they're one of the reasons I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   picked this as such a nice connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   with perfect blue is all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:07   that we said the same that the female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:08   lead the mixing of reality and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11   know film or fantasy or fiction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:14   stuff like that seems to be just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   all this is to know the two sides of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18   same coin but they're so incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:19   different in tone like this is so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   more playful and has an entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   different emotions field despite doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   so many of the same things the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   thing doesn't mixing together at her her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:31   work as an actress with her life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:33   yes so in in perfect blue she's reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:36   lines at in the story that could very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39   well be talking about either what her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41   actual life is or what we think maybe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:44   you know that the video we can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:47   issue talking about real life for her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:48   fantasy life or maybe your family life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50   is her real life and it seems so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:51   on-the-nose right and in here in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:54   did you do the same thing where she's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   these movies she's playing you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   geisha girl she's playing a warrior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   princess she's doing whatever she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:01   playing and the lines that she'd read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03   you know because you've been listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   to her retail her life are just entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   directly about her life and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   oh that's how could the lines of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:10   movies be directly about her life and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   think that is a wonderful way to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13   what it feels like to be an actor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:16   because you know your actors always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18   drawing on emotions in their own life or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:19   whatever and yeah they got their not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21   saying lines that are that are like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   know when my father left me when I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   child like if my lines in the movie they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:26   don't say but that's what it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:28   to them so when we see her speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:29   these lines like everything is subtext [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   this movie because the text is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:32   text about the text right and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:35   it seems like almost kind of corny were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37   like out there wouldn't be a line in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:38   mood so directly addresses the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40   that she's going through her life right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:41   now but that's what it feels like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   you're channeling those emotions into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:44   nagging performance and of course we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   only shown selected lines from it in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   then like they just they just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   turning the crank to say okay are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:51   still with us but we'll turn even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   farther you still with us now what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:54   this what about this and you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   saving her in the movies and at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   point it's like danger and moving you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2938">TS</a>]

00:48:59   worried about how are you like when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:00   like this is the movie isnot she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:01   actually in danger and and like her you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:04   know the painter guys chasing after it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   like inside the movie but not really and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08   you know is she telling a story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:09   her own light real life in a train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   accident or is this a train accident in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   a movie right and when they get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:14   the train because they're surrounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16   their then in feudal Japan right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:19   there's that element to of like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:20   what is did she really did she go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   through a portal and step backward in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:23   time did the movie is it a science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   fiction movie that she's making or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   this just another movie that happened a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   little bit later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:30   what's the but but the whole point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:31   this movie is about the flexibility of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   memory and how sometimes memory makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   things feel more real to you than what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37   actually happened at the time and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   over time your story of what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42   and the story of your feelings becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:45   the truth it's also about how film is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   our film is our memory in some ways and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:50   film represents reality it and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:53   the next step beyond that it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   about like you said the history 20th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   century Japan and the way the movies the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   movies that she makes reflect that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:02   right to the point where when she starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   it's a you know they're shooting a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06   in China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:07   there's a nationalistic you know cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:10   Japanese campaign to you in China and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:14   they've taken over portions of China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   pre-world War two is when they referred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   as Manchuria that brought me up for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20   moment yeah like God that's right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   then yeah and then you start thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   about the rape of nanking and how for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   ordinary Japanese citizens they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   nothing about this and and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   perspective will be completely different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   which is all we have to make booster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:33   films and we have to support the troops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   and right and the Chinese were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   desperately fighting to keep these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   people out our are seen as these savages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   as opposed to although she's chasing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:44   hippie painter who is anti-war yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   to be fair or what passes for a hippie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:49   in nineteen thirties Japan revolutionary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:52   this is one of the hit the other comp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:55   you a very common thing anime and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57   could it not be an end its represented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59   better in this movie than perfect blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01   out so this movie has a building shaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   events that punctuate the movie its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05   specific moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07   Matt both man-made and earthquakes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09   Japan's fault lines you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   everything but then you've got the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12   war two firebombing and all that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:13   stuff right and how its how can any art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:18   made by Japan post-war to not be about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:22   like at the very very bottom like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   have liked the war atomic bombs like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:27   that is such an incredible theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:28   throughout all of anime and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   it's kind of you know cliche like oh oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   you know Japanese every one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:33   movies about a nuclear bomb so they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   have the two of the city's growing up I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37   was like like yeah it's like saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:40   don't respect it's like saying all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   Western literature is like so much stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44   based on the bible it's so try to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:45   that all you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47   there's a reason for that like it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   it's such a theme in the movies and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   is this is one that uses those themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   with with the earthquakes and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   know all the war 15 to 20 years from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   someone's gonna go back and go a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   American pop culture was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:00   obsessing over terrorism and secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:03   betrayals and buildings falling down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:05   and well can't they get over that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   come on you're the only nation on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09   planet to get nuked yeah at and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:12   like this is this movie is about it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   in a in a beautiful and subtle way like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   making life because it's about her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:18   personal like these these earthquakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:19   and events have to do with like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   11 happens at the end of the movie the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   dance ends up sending into the hospital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:24   is the one that that in the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   with it interrupts the the buses name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   jenya from from watching the movie at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31   this is a young version of him saving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34   her in the earthquake that sort of ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   her career when she loses the key right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:37   and fought the light great lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   break falls on her is the actual total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   destruction of the studio by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   construction equipment destruction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:45   the studio by firebombing by you know us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47   bombers that theme but just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:51   repeated in this movie several different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53   times kind of look like I feel like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   movie gets away with so much that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   be corny or ham-fisted because it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:01   so good-natured and fun and I like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04   just going to feel these emotions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:05   together and we're not gonna take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   anything too seriously but there is real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:08   deep emotion like it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   wacky and silly it strikes the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:13   balance and that's why I feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:14   it carries you with it to get that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   payoff at the end when she you know goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18   off into into a hyperspace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20   tony is still out there i'm still here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   what do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:23   um I guess I i did not like this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:26   is jaha uh haha i I've only seen it once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:31   and that was today so maybe it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:34   different when I revisit it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   I mean I think I picked up on a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   it but perhaps some of it you know i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:41   missed by and I think I particular i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:44   not like kind of the insertion of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:47   filmmakers or said and you know his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49   cameraman kind of into this i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   that that didn't work for me um like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   that they they did that and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   is are they gonna keep doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:56   because i don't i don't want that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   well that's going to turn you off from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3238">TS</a>]

00:53:59   the movie yeah and they kinda and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   like you know and they like I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   liked work the when they went to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:04   scene that was kind of from his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06   perspective right and and he was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   to you know where we saw him his mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10   career with the studio but there i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:13   it was especially kind of the secondary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15   character of the of the cameraman who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17   was really kind of just their kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   for comedic purposes kind of slapstick e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   comedic purposes that really kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   that broke that for me I didn't love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   cameraman he's definitely a tie-pin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27   animate the the disinterested assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:31   you know salary men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   you know too-cool-for-school kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   thing but like they bring him around at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:36   the end too because he is a man anime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:37   character which you may not know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   don't watch a lot of anime but then by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:40   the end of the movie he's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:41   interested in hurst as they're driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:42   to the hospital he's he has come around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   fight like you see a finally a crack in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:47   that cynical kind of have to be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   doing this no you know I mean and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   know it's they're both they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:52   characters like the guys so enthusiastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   and he loves you know his favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:57   actress and like but you mean youyou the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   bind to that are you doing business this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01   is that this is that kind of movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:02   the kind of movie admit it you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   going to be over-the-top and it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06   to do corny things and it's gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   ham-fisted things and you that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   either you either buy it or you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   and I've got this with the movie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   actually have recommended to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:15   people who say they're not into anime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:16   and some people are just completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18   bounces often it's just too weird for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:19   other people it can if it catches you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21   you're doing because it knows exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   where it's going to take you and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:24   brings you straight through and pops you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   out the other side and I'm all the anime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:29   movies i have this is the most likely 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31   cause people to be crying at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:32   it was just something something from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   know that anime tends not to have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   reputation but this movie of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38   ones of my collection can actually do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40   but if specifically if you don't let it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   never doesn't it doesn't grab you that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:43   not gonna happen i'm just gonna be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45   weird movie where nothing happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:46   I mean I i found it touching but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   yeah I don't think I was grabbed and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:51   guess I thought perfect blue was a prep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53   better but I guess I'm well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:56   certainly more to grab you in perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:57   like if it's more it is definitely like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:59   it nothing happens the millennium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01   actress something happens when people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03   like very little trip you know it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05   story of and i think i think i caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   onto pretty early on you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   wasn't good at you know there wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:10   gonna be like a twister or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:13   there wasn't so much gonna be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:14   point of tension that was gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   murder my lit yeah there was no murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   you know I I kind of figured the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   the hippie you know in that you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:23   few million in Japan but you know she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   being interviewed her old age probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:26   like you know the revolutionaries not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   hang out in her backyard was gonna walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30   have you met my gardener but that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:33   thing if this movie catches you like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:34   people will find themselves like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:38   you know she's not going to see that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   again but you occasionally like find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:43   yourself hoping you know like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   that it could happen but like it'll suck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:48   it'll suck you into it like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:49   documentary filmmakers is you know his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   long-lost son or something right or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:54   like the story of they finally met and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:55   they want to i know she never saw again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57   he was killed was actually died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:59   no it'sit's a better story than all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01   that they were just parts of it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03   didn't grab me and you know already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:04   watching l.o.l won't wait as long as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:06   I've waited to rewatch perfect blue but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:09   maybe it'll be different you have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:12   in the mood for both of these movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:13   definitely this one you have to be kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   of it you know they were assigned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:16   reading that was the bad you have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18   in a chill mood for ideas but my teacher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:21   told me to do I tell you watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:22   watching my pad while you're flying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   your vacation because really the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:27   way to do it yeah i did did not take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:30   recommended dosage yeah so so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32   animation stylist move against very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34   similar to a perfect blue kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:35   realistic style but if you look closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37   not really realistic but i thought like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:38   the yeah if they have you know that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:41   of the oscars for like you know costume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:42   design and seven declaration and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44   like the period the capability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:46   capture these different periods just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   like even just like me the way what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:51   her name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:51   heo co is drawn from like as a child to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:54   to sort of a young ingénue two more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:57   seasoned actress a trendy hairstyles are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:58   closed how she carries herself for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   demeanor the surrounding so everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   about it is just beautiful that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   thought that was it that was kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:05   element that work particularly well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08   an animation right i mean if they hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:09   as a live-action you have three days the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11   actors and all that and instead they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13   able to age her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:14   yeah he even with makeup and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16   that it wouldn't kind of have felt the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:18   same way especially when they were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19   all the things with a kind of quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   cutting back and forth between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:22   different eras toward the end and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   that really wouldn't have worked as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   can take you out of it and and yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28   was distracting in great movies like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:31   know if you can you can pause a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:32   movie and like what you see up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   screen that could be a work of art well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:35   you know the animation is literally that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37   like you know in the best case it's 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:38   beautiful your own pictures every second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   and I i did this is one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:44   that I don't know what we should talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46   about why don't like comic books on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:47   different podcasts maybe some other time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:48   know about Admiral Amanda you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:51   there are the motion and fluidity of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:54   these drawings like it's step above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:55   having that there's one drawing but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   series of the night and I feel like each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:58   one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3538">TS</a>]

00:58:59   any frame from this movie you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   just so beautifully realised not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   it's very complicated they're simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05   background there you know that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:06   painting is themselves over like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08   know the tricks like it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10   you know it's not like studio ghibli [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   where you realize these poor suckers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:13   some guy spent like a year doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   background screen for three seconds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17   that you know these are made more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:20   cheaply than those those big budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   movies but there's still enough artistry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:24   in the way they draw these characters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:26   the surroundings and how they move and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28   and everything that you know I I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:31   appreciate that I appreciate that more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:32   than I would a great live-action movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:35   much love light actually sometimes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37   when watching animated movie that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   like the pinnacle of moving pictures is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41   when someone draws every single one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:42   them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:43   this was yeah I so I i really did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:46   really did like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:47   millennium actress and and was surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:51   and I did get fished in by the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   where i'm watching the weird sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   moonbase move he that turns out to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:59   her last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   her last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   her last film and i love the echoes of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   real-life actors and actresses i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:04   this is apparently based on a on a on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:08   Japanese actress but that either echoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10   of this and a lot of actors of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12   generation where their lifespan sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:15   like early days of film and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18   know inevitably they're the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:19   embarrassing period pieces at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:22   their career and-and the moonbase movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:25   is obviously hers and yet in the end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:28   becomes this really touching moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:29   because it's representing her the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31   the end of her life and so yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:34   thought it was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:36   I I don't have much to say about it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:38   guess the other one just because I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40   really liked it and I liked how the PM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:43   it kept me off balance with the reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   versus fantasy all kind of rolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:48   together and in the end it was all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50   her life and and a weather was in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:53   life or in her films it was all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   her life and the reason you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   watch is in this order is because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59   want to end with the feeling that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:00   have at the end of letting actress even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   though perfect blue has more or less a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:03   happy ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:04   you don't want that to be like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:07   the final the final taste in your mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09   is this is like I don't want that to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11   the last thing i want for anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:12   it was perfect John because i watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:14   millennium actress and I had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:15   feeling and then I stepped off the plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:16   and I was in hawaii for eight days and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:19   you're my favorite blue in your back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:20   door and I stepped I stepped off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:21   plane and it was 20 degrees colder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23   in California in February so maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:26   works for me what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28   yeah at least at least you got my name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:31   access to send you off into a y ya know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   those great any other final thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   about about millennium actress before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:38   wrap up that's actually the 1i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40   show to my husband [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:41   oh yeah he like it yeah i think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43   would like a person he would I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   this is the one you showed people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:46   don't get autumn a if you're just tuning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   in this be you're listening to the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   will we show Phil podcast haha it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:54   sequel to lex hasn't seen it yet this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:58   this I i think i think it would like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   because a there's the whole you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:02   period film history of the 20th century [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:05   seen through the lives of somebody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   know the people who lived through it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:09   you know there's a lot of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:10   stuff here that that's about it it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12   just a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   study and it's not just about Japan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   it's not just about the 20th century and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:18   and but it's about all those things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   it's it's like I like the ambition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   that too that this is a the animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:25   feature that is you know about a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:29   things that maybe you're told better as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31   animation but are not things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:32   traditionally expect from animation at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   and the thing is i think this means this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36   story would never get greenlit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:38   Hollywood because added to route it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:39   about a young girl who forms at a an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:42   early attachment to this man that she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44   never gonna see again pines over her her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   whole life and it turns out he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   actually dead and like like Ben there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:49   nothing like this snoring cells is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:52   just like nothing happens it's silly if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:55   you look at it objectively like she's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:56   point with it why she whining about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   is not unrealistic an adult would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   overlooked but that's not like animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:03   once it a lot of a japanese animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:05   wants to get at the heart of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   emotional truth not so much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:08   intellectual truth and if you watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10   movie and look at how she gets married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   to that kind of you know lame studio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:14   head sungai she falls into that marriage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:17   and kind of goes into the normal life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19   it's it's it's putting the inner the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:22   inner emotional life of that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24   people have is on the outside and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   the normal life that people have on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   outside of the inside in this movie you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   know I mean so from her perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:31   she's always that little girl chasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:33   after that guy but on the outside choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:34   an act famous actor she's married to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36   this guy that have a normal life she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   find out he was hiding the key on her so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40   it's kind of like a betrayal or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:41   but i don't think anyone would make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:44   storyline over later to talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:45   historical things like that that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:47   just be too you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:48   two out in the ether like it's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:49   gonna sell you can never make this even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   in the world of anime this movie isnot I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53   don't know how well-known is like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:54   not easy to find they didn't even make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56   an English double this movie I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:57   think like it's not even popular enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   they're even gonna bother to do that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:00   it is kind of like our house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:03   roofie you know it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:07   mainstream but this is exactly the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09   of movie that that I like for my anime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11   which is why when I i I'm i don't claim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:14   that i am a you know anime fan because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:17   most people's definition what that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19   though what you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:20   popular series populations popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:22   series and like actually don't like any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:23   of those and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:24   yeah I like these weird movies but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:27   really like the great movies I like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29   a pretty narrow sub-genre automatic like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:31   in most of it is is with this be out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:33   place in a william gibson universe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:36   huh well serial experiments lain is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:39   about virtual reality not identity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:42   then you've got some ghost in the shell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   words the same thing it's the it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46   thin line between cyborg and human and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:49   it all goes back to this very nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:51   eighties nineteen nineties one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:54   best whether the boundaries of humanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:55   thing but other than that I'm i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:58   thank you John for broadening my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3898">TS</a>]

01:04:59   horizons with millennium actress because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:00   i'd i would have discovered it on my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:01   and I really liked it and do to you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:05   free Jason now having seen two movies by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07   this one guy yet would you it would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:11   seek out more work by the same person in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13   the same way like you watch aj bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   something like all that JJ abrams got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:16   you i love this lens flares and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:18   ya know what this is I'm up I'm up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20   two now because I've seen I i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:24   animate directors I've seen now because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   it's being sake and masatoshi con yes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28   would watch his other movies absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   too bad he's dead and can't make anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:32   just yes but there's paprika paprika all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   because of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:35   it's got killed you're not actually your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:37   fault no i did not give him pancreatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   cannot unfortunately I think these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:41   his two best but now you know you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:44   at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:45   alright that's that's fine yeah but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:48   yeah i think this was I think this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:50   great i appreciate I appreciate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:54   suggestions you're gonna have to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:55   something else for us to watch again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:56   well then we're gonna you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:58   the beginner class gonna go in 101 with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:01   investor syracuse right we have to now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:04   we get worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:04   you know perfectly was a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06   challenging to get you off balance but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:07   now we'll go maybe into and put more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:10   challenging means this stuff you're less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:11   likely to like uh huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:13   don't get all excited fine what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15   weed out course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:16   yeah yeah it's like you're giving should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18   make sure you're serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20   that's right and then after that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:21   all blue skies but you gotta get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23   the tough sledding in there it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:24   watch fruits basket over and over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:26   so so we should talk about we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:29   talk about where we could where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:32   could get these if they're interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:33   washing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:35   my understanding is that they're both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:38   available they seem to not be available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:39   digitally you know as as a stream but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:42   they seem to both be available on DVD is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:47   that right choice i I've look as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49   might imagine that man or maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:50   don't imagine i've been looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:51   blu-ray version of all the movies that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:53   really love and these are among them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:55   i cannot find you can find a legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:56   blu-rays of like chinese things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:59   russian subtitles that are like probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01   just blu-ray version of the DVD terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:05   like but no official region 1 blu-ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07   release to my knowledge but feel free to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09   correct me but you I think you can still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11   get the region one dvds of both of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13   that's what I have perfect blue amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:16   claims there is a real import blu-ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:19   yeah I know but I when I see that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:21   think yes it's probably imported and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:23   it's probably a blu-ray but it's real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:25   it's in a box and ever is it it's not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:28   is it produced by the studio that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30   the right yeah that's a good question a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:31   remaster it isn't you know it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:34   hard to tell with that stuff we read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:35   comments on there like this looks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37   same as the back in my day we had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:39   walk and get bootleg on email on VHS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:42   that have been subtitled by second-year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   jacket Japanese majors it was hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46   read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:47   we liked it that way now i have i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:48   my share of that as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50   by the way the one thing that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:51   stick with me more than anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:52   from from perfect blue is gonna be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:56   moment where her her doppelganger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:59   suddenly his roomie who is a little as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:01   plump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:02   yeah whereas wearing my skinny but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:05   wearing that same that same kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:07   school girl out on stage outfit boy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:10   is a hilarious moment for it but yeah oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:13   yeah she's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:15   the depredations really good insanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:17   yeah just wearing the outfit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:20   doesn't fit her just friends good mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22   that's that was a really funny moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:25   alright well John you did it to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:29   you made us watch anime has promised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:32   enriching your lives reason I appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:35   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:35   I i enjoyed it I I I have no complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:38   I i enjoyed when when you force fed me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:42   my diet of the miyazaki movies I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:44   seen either it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:45   it helps to have a guide honestly and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:47   said this on our miyazaki episodes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:49   something like anime which there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51   is the huge fan culture of and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53   a million different things to watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   its kind of impenetrable it's very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57   to figure out what to watch and where to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:59   start and how you know what things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:02   get the sense almost that you're either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:03   you're either in all the way or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:06   shouldn't go in and that's wrong because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:08   in reality any genre is going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:11   its great material and it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13   material and it's mediocre material and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:15   I i love to sample the great i may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:18   get the appreciation of somebody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20   seen it all and seeing the terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:21   stuff and knows all the tropes and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23   that but that doesn't necessarily mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25   that there aren't 10 or 20 great films [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:28   and you know five or ten great TV series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:31   that are worth watching even if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:32   an outsider like me so it's been fun to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:35   to dip into it with these remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:38   remember your saying this then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:39   you're exercising its kind for my next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:42   assignment for the when where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44   when it when anime 102 comes along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:47   yeah that's the weed out course Tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:49   says that's when I 21 i think to a 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51   we're gonna go to upper division of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:53   bringing we're gonna ask a lot more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:54   you Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:55   yeah the homework and we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:58   have to actually do the reading one book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:00   anymore James home in right they'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:02   five papers the semester I don't eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:04   Japanese that's okay I'll just play hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:08   songs in the background and will keep me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:09   away because it's like injecting sugar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:11   right into your veins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:12   alright well this is great we will do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:15   more of this down the road once John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:18   choose what to assign to us inflicted on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20   us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:21   it says it's his decision he's in charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23   he's the boss he makes the rules we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:26   follow we're just puppets that's we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:28   dance dance for John and watch these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:31   movies we danced to cham yes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:34   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:35   seh am all capital letters ! so until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:39   next time i'd like to thank my guests my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:42   fellow students [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:44   Lisa Schmeisser great to have you on as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:46   always it was so much fun thank you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48   this was great and Tony sindelar thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:51   for having me thank you for coming back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:53   and watching all these movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:55   anytime and professor siracusa would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:59   like to have the last word i'm proud to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:02   have all of you as my students but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:04   beware this course will be graded on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:05   curve so only one person is getting in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:09   exactly and it's probably gonna be Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:13   proud of some is that that's gonna gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:16   be Lisa until next time uncomfortable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:20   am hopefully the B student Jason L [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:23   signing off see you next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbgtk40/4283">TS</a>]