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143: The Best "Star Wars" Movie In Years

 

00:00:00   the incomparable number 143 2 20 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/0">TS</a>]

00:00:11   welcome back to be uncomfortable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/11">TS</a>]

00:00:13   I'm your host Jason smell and we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/13">TS</a>]

00:00:14   here tonight to talk about JJ Abrams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/14">TS</a>]

00:00:18   revisiting rebooting a star trek most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/18">TS</a>]

00:00:23   specifically the new film star trek into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/23">TS</a>]

00:00:26   darkness but i think we could also talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/26">TS</a>]

00:00:28   in general about the the previous movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   too because that predates this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/30">TS</a>]

00:00:33   the 2009 edition of Star Trek joining me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/33">TS</a>]

00:00:37   to discuss the the new star trek movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/37">TS</a>]

00:00:41   are a fine collection of folks dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/41">TS</a>]

00:00:45   morons here is always hide am I Jason to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/45">TS</a>]

00:00:48   pleasure to have beamed in for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/48">TS</a>]

00:00:49   occasion thank you more of a deep space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51   nine guy but it's nice of you two to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53   take got baptized see a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55   everything alright fair enough you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/55">TS</a>]

00:00:58   know what is it a big star Wars fan like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   Dan but he's on this podcast it's john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   siracusa hi John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/62">TS</a>]

00:01:03   yeah I missed the the wrath of khan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   episode which was the one you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07   classic Star Trek movie that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/67">TS</a>]

00:01:10   possibly want to be on well for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12   Charlie's want to do I there we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   done that one yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   so here i am also here my-my go to Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/76">TS</a>]

00:01:20   Trek expert Scott multi-ply Scott oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/80">TS</a>]

00:01:25   excited to talk about Star Trek for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/85">TS</a>]

00:01:26   president and also a david lawrence here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/86">TS</a>]

00:01:31   hi David hello I guess I why don't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/91">TS</a>]

00:01:34   start by by going back to 2009 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36   talking about the original JJ Abrams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38   reboot movie a little bit you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/98">TS</a>]

00:01:42   liked it i saw it twice in the theater I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44   have the DVD or blu-ray i watched a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46   bunch of times you know it's certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49   not without its flaws but you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/109">TS</a>]

00:01:52   I really liked about it was going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/112">TS</a>]

00:01:54   to the original which is obviously it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/114">TS</a>]

00:01:55   one of the most influential you know TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   shows of my life I can't remember not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   watching the original Star Trek have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/119">TS</a>]

00:02:01   seen those episodes as detailed in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03   couple previous episodes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   incomparable so many times and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/125">TS</a>]

00:02:08   they did a really good job of taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/128">TS</a>]

00:02:09   this those classic characters and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/129">TS</a>]

00:02:12   franchise that was kind of on its last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/132">TS</a>]

00:02:14   legs and and revitalizing it making it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/134">TS</a>]

00:02:17   modern enjoyable film that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/137">TS</a>]

00:02:22   audiences really liked and and i enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   a lot even though it does have some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/144">TS</a>]

00:02:26   things that bug me about it in young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28   talents I i really love it i'm just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   of interested before we get started on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33   the new movie to go around and get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35   guys take on on that the cliff face as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/155">TS</a>]

00:02:38   if there were remember back to episode- [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40   60 of the uncomfortable when we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/160">TS</a>]

00:02:43   about it in 2009 I remember it like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/163">TS</a>]

00:02:48   now there's no flash back we went on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/168">TS</a>]

00:02:49   air then hmm so uh so we will start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/169">TS</a>]

00:02:53   Scott since he's the resident star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55   expert you know give a little overview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57   of your thoughts of the 2009 movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   well III went to it much like I imagined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/179">TS</a>]

00:03:04   Dan and John went into the Phantom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/184">TS</a>]

00:03:07   Menace except when i left my soul was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/187">TS</a>]

00:03:11   not crushed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/191">TS</a>]

00:03:12   wow I i was happy try that knife a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/192">TS</a>]

00:03:15   little bit more scared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/195">TS</a>]

00:03:16   sorry because you have no soul true i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/196">TS</a>]

00:03:20   had removed before i went to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21   movie I was quite happy that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   reboot i thought was faithful at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26   in tone to star trek i mean i have I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/206">TS</a>]

00:03:29   wonder if they really had to blow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31   Vulcan but others and that does anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/211">TS</a>]

00:03:35   really have to do anything that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37   the whole coincidence if you know Spock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   is just hanging out in an ice cave and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42   Kirk just happens to land on that planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44   and they happen to run into each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   and then they happen to see Vulcan get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/226">TS</a>]

00:03:49   destroyed its kind of stretching it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/229">TS</a>]

00:03:52   overall thumbs up there enough John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/232">TS</a>]

00:03:56   yeah I didn't I have a false memory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59   us doing a podcast about average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   I think you would have yeah because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04   and I was I was about to say remember we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   when we talk about that like when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   first watched the movie I must talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/248">TS</a>]

00:04:09   about something you guys about it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/249">TS</a>]

00:04:10   person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/250">TS</a>]

00:04:11   I remember complaining about like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/251">TS</a>]

00:04:15   the silly scenes where Kirk's running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   around with his hand all puffy and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/257">TS</a>]

00:04:19   of it weird tone tonal shifts in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21   middle and like I had complaints and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/261">TS</a>]

00:04:24   was like it was good I liked it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   know but I wish they hadn't like after I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   saw the theater like that was fun but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/268">TS</a>]

00:04:29   like the bad parts are stuck in my craw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/269">TS</a>]

00:04:32   and i recently rewatched it with my son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/272">TS</a>]

00:04:36   which will be a thing later when we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/276">TS</a>]

00:04:37   about this movie and I liked it way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/277">TS</a>]

00:04:41   the on you know I guess is probably my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44   third of you because i think i saw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/284">TS</a>]

00:04:45   some other way i like the way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47   seeing it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/287">TS</a>]

00:04:47   recently many years after its release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   because i was able to like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   silly parts the annoying parts didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/292">TS</a>]

00:04:55   bother me as much and I was just able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   appreciate the things I really did like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   about the big dramatic beginning the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   Cecilia over-the-top introduction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   child Kirk like some of it just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   went around the bend you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   slingshot around the Sun so to speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   sure and and managed to come out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11   other side and I was just able to enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   it as good goofy fun and enjoy the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   battle things and just like and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/315">TS</a>]

00:05:18   it's because I i watch it again leading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   up to knowing I was going to see the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   one because I just wanted to get back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   into that mindset and seeing the JJ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/324">TS</a>]

00:05:27   Abrams style star trek lens flares and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/327">TS</a>]

00:05:30   all like it there's a particular visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   and kinetic style to the way he's chosen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34   to do Star Trek that I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   different than the least the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/336">TS</a>]

00:05:37   property jayven properties that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   seen from him i was on board with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41   and watching it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   I liked it more and I was excited to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   the next movie alright which you did but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   we'll get to that David what about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/347">TS</a>]

00:05:50   well you know I saw it you're well I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   all the spoilers for it beforehand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   even though it hadn't come out you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/355">TS</a>]

00:05:56   there's it's gonna be well I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/356">TS</a>]

00:05:59   know Spock is going to be back and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/359">TS</a>]

00:06:02   gonna be a diverging timeline and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   they delayed the movie for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/364">TS</a>]

00:06:05   months so I had all that time to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/365">TS</a>]

00:06:08   sitting there going to virgin timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   to god no and I got all that anger out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/370">TS</a>]

00:06:14   is nothing sacred exactly is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/374">TS</a>]

00:06:17   continuity built up like little layers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   of a coral reef over 40 years that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22   doesn't really interest anybody but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/382">TS</a>]

00:06:23   Phil's lots of reference material sacred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/383">TS</a>]

00:06:26   exactly maybe tipping my hand here a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28   little bit okay go out and it is secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/388">TS</a>]

00:06:31   it well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   oh yes so I just sort of I expiated all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/393">TS</a>]

00:06:36   of that before i went to see the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/396">TS</a>]

00:06:37   and so as soon as it came out as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   know the midnight sneak preview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   alright I'm there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/401">TS</a>]

00:06:42   and I didn't mind and it kept going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/402">TS</a>]

00:06:47   i still didn't mind and by the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/407">TS</a>]

00:06:50   the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/410">TS</a>]

00:06:51   yeah i had had issues with it but I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/411">TS</a>]

00:06:55   enjoyed the cast and the chemistry so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   much and as soon as the orchestral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/417">TS</a>]

00:07:01   version or the full orchestra playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/421">TS</a>]

00:07:02   the classic theme and the planets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/422">TS</a>]

00:07:05   zooming up at you i had the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07   stupid smile on my face and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   had it all the way home and I got home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   and my wife looked at me and said good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/433">TS</a>]

00:07:14   oh yeah yeah that was the best magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/434">TS</a>]

00:07:18   trick that movie that theme at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   because I held it the whole thing I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/440">TS</a>]

00:07:21   put at the end and like this cheating is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/441">TS</a>]

00:07:24   cheating they're sending you out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/444">TS</a>]

00:07:25   like you know they withheld it the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27   movie and they send you out on that note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   and how can you not go to the theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   smiling at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/451">TS</a>]

00:07:31   oh yeah can't believe that in the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34   history of the star trek movie franchise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   they never played the freaking theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/456">TS</a>]

00:07:40   song thats true yes the Star Trek the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   motion picture they use the theme song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   that would eventually become the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/464">TS</a>]

00:07:45   generation stamps on now they'll do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/465">TS</a>]

00:07:46   do to do to do to do but they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/466">TS</a>]

00:07:49   actually like played the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   exactly they never get it yet and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/471">TS</a>]

00:07:56   that was that moment in that movie was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   like oh my god I've just enjoyed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   entire moving and now and now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   yeah what more could you ask for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/482">TS</a>]

00:08:05   know I was gonna say about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/485">TS</a>]

00:08:06   continuity it's not as if like a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   comes to your house when you see the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   Star Trek and takes your dvds of the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   star trek and breaks them and set your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   books on fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/493">TS</a>]

00:08:14   a man came to my house and did that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/494">TS</a>]

00:08:17   it wasn't connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   oh no that was me dab you snow snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/499">TS</a>]

00:08:23   Simon Pegg did come to my house and burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25   only Star Wars stuff after Finn panting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   minutes can you blame him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/507">TS</a>]

00:08:30   references list my main problem with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/510">TS</a>]

00:08:33   the star trek 2009 was that the villain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/513">TS</a>]

00:08:36   was not all that interesting to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/516">TS</a>]

00:08:39   oh yes he had a cool ship but he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41   just a pissed-off minor I was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   yeah who cares and and it didn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   know where was he for all of the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   between baby Jim Kirk and grownup Jim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/527">TS</a>]

00:08:50   Kirk it was bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   he's off doing stuff he was in a Klingon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   prison but that was really boring so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   they just cut that scene out the DVD but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/536">TS</a>]

00:08:59   you're right in fact that whole the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   whole as clever as the diversion time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   lineas and as wonderful as an opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06   scene as the opening scene with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   Kelvin with Kirk's father sacrificing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/548">TS</a>]

00:09:11   himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/551">TS</a>]

00:09:12   I and all of that is so great and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/552">TS</a>]

00:09:15   the mechanics of Nero and I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/555">TS</a>]

00:09:19   think the worst single thing in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   entire movie is the when Spock does his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/561">TS</a>]

00:09:24   lengthy monologue that doesn't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   yes where he says oh there was a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   hole then I had the red matter and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   there was no a star that threaten the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   galaxy which doesn't make any sense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   it and it's just like we just needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   this to happen and I i read the in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   the commentary track on the blu-ray uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/581">TS</a>]

00:09:42   they actually say that originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   Leonard Nimoy's voiceover was clear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   they made it all weird and distorted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   looks like don't pay attention to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   he's saying it's just but whatever blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   and it's and it's the weakest thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/592">TS</a>]

00:09:54   the movie is actually this kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/594">TS</a>]

00:09:56   the villain in the and the mechanism of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/596">TS</a>]

00:09:57   the plot its speaking of the last doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/597">TS</a>]

00:10:00   who episode and Clara Clara has a plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/600">TS</a>]

00:10:03   device instead of a character like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   that's when you know you've been you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   naming all the things that I didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/607">TS</a>]

00:10:08   about your first movie and starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   make me not like it again because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/610">TS</a>]

00:10:11   going on that instead of the good parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   but I for you if you are if you were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16   big star trek fan this thing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   did with the thing going back in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20   and creating a virgin diversion timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   is perhaps the most respectful possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/622">TS</a>]

00:10:25   way you can reboot the franchise because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/625">TS</a>]

00:10:26   you are you are saying we are not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28   to touch like what really quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30   really happened like that will always be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   there we're not pretending it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   happen just telling saying it's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   really a reboot it's a mere continuation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38   and and in that respect Nero is a plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/638">TS</a>]

00:10:41   device whose purposes to allow us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/641">TS</a>]

00:10:44   have a new franchise to kiss to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/644">TS</a>]

00:10:45   this movie completely unencumbered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   continuity largely by from the point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/647">TS</a>]

00:10:51   the divergence b but never met was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/651">TS</a>]

00:10:52   rational point of view that did yet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54   are like there-there they are making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   themselves more income than they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/656">TS</a>]

00:10:57   because they want to do modules and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59   the ridiculous things when the reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00   would have diverged so much that nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   resembling any other movies would ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/662">TS</a>]

00:11:03   happen except maybe the whale think its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   toll on its way right but it i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/665">TS</a>]

00:11:08   that was such like that was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/668">TS</a>]

00:11:11   things that you know the theme song at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/671">TS</a>]

00:11:12   the end is like I realized and guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   what they can do anything they want from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/674">TS</a>]

00:11:15   here and it shouldn't piss anyone off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   because they are leaving intact the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/677">TS</a>]

00:11:20   you know Star Trek timeline but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22   they're free to do whatever they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24   and so that's that's one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/684">TS</a>]

00:11:25   i was so excited about the second movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   I I a bunch of arguments with people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   Twitter about the about the star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   into darkness you may have noticed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   one of the ones that I got a lot was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35   well they shouldn't change continuity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/695">TS</a>]

00:11:36   issues just been you know with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/696">TS</a>]

00:11:39   painting within the numbers within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   little lines of existing establish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   continuities like wow there's no drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   and I've seen prequels and not just Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/705">TS</a>]

00:11:48   Wars I mean there's no drama in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/708">TS</a>]

00:11:52   leading up to the obvious and mandatory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/712">TS</a>]

00:11:55   eventualities I I just think it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   it would be boring in the extreme to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/717">TS</a>]

00:12:00   that and and so you know their moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/720">TS</a>]

00:12:03   in star trek into darkness where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/723">TS</a>]

00:12:05   actually I'm thinking where they going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/725">TS</a>]

00:12:06   to kill some of the main characters not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   that 1i knew they weren't gonna kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   that one and we'll get to that but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   that you know there were moments where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/732">TS</a>]

00:12:13   actually felt like jeopardy for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   characters and of course it was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/735">TS</a>]

00:12:16   straight-on prequel I would never felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18   that Dan did I I didn't get to you did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/738">TS</a>]

00:12:21   i think the first thing that struck me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/741">TS</a>]

00:12:22   watching the movie was I that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/742">TS</a>]

00:12:25   believe there is a oscar forecasting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   if there were I think this movie should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   win every year i think they did they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/749">TS</a>]

00:12:33   one of the best casting jobs i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/753">TS</a>]

00:12:34   could ever like they they managed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/754">TS</a>]

00:12:37   perfectly nail all of these characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39   so that they were familiar yet not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/759">TS</a>]

00:12:43   dislike that distinctly different at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   same time and to me that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/765">TS</a>]

00:12:48   quite the coup because i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   reading the cast list when it came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/770">TS</a>]

00:12:51   here like reading like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53   Zachary Quintos playing Spock what yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   I can see that and and simon Pegg's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   playing Scotty well that's awesome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   and John chose playing salute well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   that's a great choice you know and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/781">TS</a>]

00:13:02   keep kind of going and going there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   a couple people i was unsure of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/784">TS</a>]

00:13:05   first time around but Karl Urban really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   really want me over i think im so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   okay to John earlier tonight actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   that that uh I i will now watch pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   much anything with him in it because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/793">TS</a>]

00:13:14   is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/794">TS</a>]

00:13:15   just a couple scenes where he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/795">TS</a>]

00:13:16   totally nails it which caused good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/796">TS</a>]

00:13:19   because he's doing an American accent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/799">TS</a>]

00:13:20   that show where he hasn't he's a cop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/800">TS</a>]

00:13:21   with a robot partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   oh I'm gonna watch that now yeah i watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   Gunsmoke was a cop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/805">TS</a>]

00:13:26   I think maybe bones is is is the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   casting of the mall which is saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   something because I i agree with you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   think they did they did a good job and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34   remember reading something during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   production of that first movie that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/816">TS</a>]

00:13:39   were approaching it they said look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/819">TS</a>]

00:13:40   because this was controversial like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   other actors playing these parts they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   said look these are classic roles is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/823">TS</a>]

00:13:44   your classic characters you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   different productions of Shakespeare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/826">TS</a>]

00:13:47   have different actors and have had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/827">TS</a>]

00:13:50   for hundreds of years like it isn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   character of Captain Kirk something so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/832">TS</a>]

00:13:53   so great isn't the Kirk Spock McCoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   relationship so interesting that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58   deserves to be explored further and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   just by the original actors so we've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/840">TS</a>]

00:14:03   six guys play James Bond right like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/843">TS</a>]

00:14:06   know which is also an iconic characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/846">TS</a>]

00:14:07   i don't see really a problem with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09   the other thing which is kind of John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   touched on was this the divergent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13   timelines as a way to keep the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   canon intact which the more i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/855">TS</a>]

00:14:16   about the more I find brilliant because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18   the problem to a certain extent well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/858">TS</a>]

00:14:22   a lot of the earlier Star Trek movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/862">TS</a>]

00:14:23   and hang you know hold up alright i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/863">TS</a>]

00:14:26   think the problem to a certain extent is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/866">TS</a>]

00:14:27   that they don't really play to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/867">TS</a>]

00:14:30   modern movie goings in the same way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/870">TS</a>]

00:14:34   we didn't they didn't like James Bond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   like James Bond has to get reinvented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/876">TS</a>]

00:14:37   for every era because you know Roger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   Moore isn't going to fly in the 2000s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41   besides the fact is like 90 but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43   like that there's a different tone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   like there's a different there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/885">TS</a>]

00:14:46   different style of filmmaking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/886">TS</a>]

00:14:47   time dimension and that's the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   star wars fans are stored friends like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   to complain so much about with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/891">TS</a>]

00:14:52   special editions is like well it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   you're trying to take a 70s movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/894">TS</a>]

00:14:55   making into a nineties movie and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   feels really weird and so they they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/897">TS</a>]

00:15:00   able to diverge the timelines and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   you know treat the separate thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   is very much of its era it's very much a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   movie of it of its time and yet has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/906">TS</a>]

00:15:10   lot of you know the the same elements we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/910">TS</a>]

00:15:13   really like because like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   look back at like the bridge from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/915">TS</a>]

00:15:16   enterprise in the original series it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/916">TS</a>]

00:15:17   like when you couldn't have like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   blinking lights today right like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   would work it would look silly with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/921">TS</a>]

00:15:22   switches short switches are great those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   witches are awesome i mean the scene i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/924">TS</a>]

00:15:25   always say the scene that they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   me and the first trailer seen that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/927">TS</a>]

00:15:30   loved so much was the scene it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/930">TS</a>]

00:15:33   one-shot of the Sulu like moving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   lever to make the enterprise go to warp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/935">TS</a>]

00:15:39   i just i love it's like this chrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   lever it looks like a hot rod remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/941">TS</a>]

00:15:44   when I put that screenshot on Mac os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/946">TS</a>]

00:15:46   yes yes because i was a quicktime player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/946">TS</a>]

00:15:49   and like yes that that one image jumped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   out at me as well so much so that I very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   intentionally chose it because you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   to show something playing in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/955">TS</a>]

00:15:56   thing is that exact scene and to speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58   to it i think that you know i will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/958">TS</a>]

00:16:00   that that this the star trek is the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/960">TS</a>]

00:16:03   Star Wars movie we've had in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/963">TS</a>]

00:16:04   like 15 years but it is i mean like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/964">TS</a>]

00:16:08   that you've seen you've no doubt if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10   people haven't seen these the shot you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   know side-by-side shots of like Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   Wars and Star Trek it's it's pretty like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/974">TS</a>]

00:16:17   there's a user's a youtube video where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   they compared like you know Kirk going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   out on his little like speeder bike out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   to the enterprise and looking up at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/983">TS</a>]

00:16:24   enterprise to Luke going and looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26   the sunset they call that the luke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28   skywalker shot right JJ Abrams is a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/988">TS</a>]

00:16:31   Star Wars fan was not necessarily a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   really big star trek fan before getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/993">TS</a>]

00:16:34   into this so i think to me you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/994">TS</a>]

00:16:38   felt like it incorporated a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/998">TS</a>]

00:16:39   things that i liked about Star Wars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/999">TS</a>]

00:16:42   there is that element of and we'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:44   into this little bit more with into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46   darkness but the helmet of even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   a totally different timeline there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50   still dare I say it fixed point or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:55   well there are there are elements in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   i like the idea of there are elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   like there's inescapable things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   Kirk and you know certain villains are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:04   going to meet up no matter what timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   it is clearly the first even the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   of the first movie makes it clear it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   like a they never says it but it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   clear that there has to be some the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   universe's wanting to get these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   together that's why I can forgive mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   Spock being down cold spot being down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   the the ice planet at when Kirk gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:23   sent down there and that Scotty happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:26   to be at the outpost there it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   you know the the timeline diverge but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31   the universe is gonna get these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:32   back together right and i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34   makes it emotional sense but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   rational sense it's like a Stephen King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:37   book where there's always some unseen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   force causing the story to control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   come to the shape that makes for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:42   dramatic story and I think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   works from a sense of they bothered me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   like you know I i had that you know sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:49   of quibble the first time around and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   think it was because i was very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:52   holding onto this old like going into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   expecting it to be much more like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   star trek I'd grown up with which is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58   very rational and science fictiony and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   this was a little bit more fantastic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:03   so I I mean once I sort of separated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:06   element the part of me that was like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   doesn't really feel like star trek from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:09   the part of me that's like yeah but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   kind of like there's a story then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:12   think I came around on it when when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:15   was when I showed it to my son he you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:18   know he's picking out the different plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:19   points and saying I was cool in this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:22   know and he liked the timeline diverging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24   worked and was amazed by that and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:28   we got to that point you know how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   know it's well Scotty's there an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:32   spot is there and have been why is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   there and doesn't make any sense and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   said we act as Spock sent him to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   planet and I went and even though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:42   not the same spot obviously but to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:45   it made enough sense that there was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:48   this residual idea for Spock to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:52   spacious spunkiness otherwise it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   why would you do that in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:57   ok right because it because it had to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   done exactly is the old sci-fi trope of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:02   planets in science fiction movies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:06   about the size of a living room yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   because no matter where you send someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:09   down on a planet he is inevitably within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:12   walking distance of the most important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   thing or person on the entire planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15   that's just that's just a standard size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:18   five triples plants are actually really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:19   big and in reality you would spend seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   years getting to the point really didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   there are that many around any given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   star and they're not very close together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26   and yet there are several moments in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   this in the original Abrams Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:31   and in many other sci-fi movies words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   like planets tons of them they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   very close to each other and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:36   very small and it's like no that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   it I i also have to deal with the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41   the quote on quote rule-breaking and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   I were wearing if I actually were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:44   classes i would be pushing them what up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46   on my nose right now to say like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   transporter doesn't actually work well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:51   at warp and you can't send people over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:53   long distances from the the years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:56   years I spent reading star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   technical manuals but again I just was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:01   like you know what I mean I it's finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   we get there for a plot devised a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:04   go they had an in story explanation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06   that those like y'all this is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   the war the fortunes of the blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   right it just bothered me at the time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:12   yeah as a plot device it's also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   like a transfer student pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:15   anything we want the two but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:16   look back at the old seriously like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18   you could like make separate people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:19   carry diseases like that's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   things you can do with transport is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:22   evil blankets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:23   yes make even sure who's to say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   won't invent transparent aluminum that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   right all right now with you but if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   was the guy who went except except the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   differences that Scotty smart enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   immediately say excuse me are you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:34   the future immediately making out is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:38   that you know Eric man is not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   interesting by the way he's just he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   either everything I just like that line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   to get these spit flying out of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46   mouth when he does it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:47   yeah and that's it that's a ship with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   handrails no guardrails are sure it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:52   very unsafe excellent balance that bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:55   industrial design it doesn't even seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   to have like a complete floor anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   no that's a Romulan miners don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01   it's therefore rocks like they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:04   around they do they do calisthenics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:08   stuff and I stab you with a little pokey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:09   stabby thing if you miss them at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   they were reasons can just throw I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:14   that the industrial design the film is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:15   also really really great i mentioned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   lever on the enterprise before but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:18   i love the phasers i love that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   the whole thing that flips from likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   done to kill ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:23   that's awesome it's just it's not one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   those touches that like it it would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:28   have looked out of place in the 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29   series and yet it's still modern and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:32   me that is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:34   that's just brilliant design believe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36   enterprise is recognizably is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   enterprise but I you know has a modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:42   take on it that makes it again and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:45   bridge the same way I mean the bridge is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   is more or less functional in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   that the original Star Trek bridge is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   but it doesn't look like it at all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   all apple store you know it's glass and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   white and yea alright a star trek into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:59   darkness just came out and we all saw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02   I i'll put it out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:06   I really enjoyed it i thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:07   very entertaining again it doesn't it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:11   not without its flaws but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:14   actually think that it has fewer flaws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:17   them the 2009 movie starting with a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:21   better villain but much more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:24   actor doing much more interesting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:27   then then Eric Bana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:30   sadly I mean he's not a terrible actor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   or anything but he's not given much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:33   do and he doesn't do anything with it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   you know and and and John Harrison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:42   aka the Mandarin is also known as con la [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:48   what I did not pick up other know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:51   missed me didn't notice that I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   he was playing James Caan yeah week on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:56   let me calculate you know and and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1376">TS</a>]

00:23:01   he cover Benedict Cumberbatch's great uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:04   Peter Weller is interesting although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:07   think peter weller is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   sinister and everything so when it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   out that he said Mr I was like I told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:12   you he was sinister it's peter weller it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14   was a good guy robocop yeah trying but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:17   agree he's not a guy that you cast to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   like oh yeah that guy's a good guy Bruce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   Greenwood is the good guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22   yeah he's here Weller is not a good guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   I either the thing with Cumberbatch's he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   does such a great job of looking like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   he's got such that such odd features in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:31   some ways that they really work with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33   Sherlock he looks he looks for till Ian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35   to me in this like they do a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   job like nao he loses that cold-blooded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:40   like it's just so i'll make you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:43   menacing i really be in to go from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   Sherlock to that it's so white with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:48   flashy and and he's he said I mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   is really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:51   it amazes me that he got cast like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:54   days before he started filming which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57   yeah that's nuts but he said he went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:00   the trouble of actually making every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:03   line reading sound a little bit alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   sound like a little bit like he had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07   manufactured which makes sense right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10   so so everything after hearing that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:13   kind of listening to him going oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   that's cool because it really is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:18   different line reading from anything he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   doesn't Sherlock parades and don't watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:23   parades and unless you want to watch him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25   cry but Christ on cry it was an inspired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:31   choice because I i actually I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   loved to have been a fly on the wall as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   the producers of this movie kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   approaching actors initially approaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:40   hispanic actors who are like c'mon you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   want to do your take on like end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:45   they're all like no I'm not going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:46   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:46   no forget it forget it and they end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49   with this English guy and I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:52   mean I guess it was a gamble because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   nobody really knew who going to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:55   Rebecca was at that point except those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   of us who would seem the first season of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   sherlock i guess but they will be locked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:03   out because he brings a whole lot right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:07   i mean you gotta have you got to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   good a good interesting character with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:12   things to do but you really have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:13   a charismatic actor and Cumberbatch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:17   that is that guy when I saw this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   the second time because i watched it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20   twice i was sitting next to what turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:23   out to be cumbered fans who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:26   wheeling every time he appears on-screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   it was considered was very strange but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:32   I totally get it he's he's you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34   they were very fortunate to cast him so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   suddenly as we're talking about this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   really wanted there to be a scene in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   movie where they cut away and Benedict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   Cumberbatch like goes to his little view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44   screen and pulls it up and then calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:45   like Ricardo Montalban and like yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48   I know this box over there getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:49   advice from the spa can really open your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:53   shirt more it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:54   smiles everyone spot does the Enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:58   bridge still have fine Corinthian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   leather no it's glass and white plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:04   do you still have the shield coat a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:09   four-digit prefer that would you be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   yes although again this is not this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13   not the wrath of khan because its way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:14   earlier and everybody and it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   more like a you know almost space seed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   except spacey wasn't that great episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:21   and was horribly sex system so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:24   other any other thoughts about the about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:27   Cumberbatch or any of the other acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   performances and into darkness i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:30   that might be a good place to do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   mentioned a lot of the cast for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   first movie but didn't mention one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:37   most pleasant surprises which is chris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:40   pine the casting for Kirk because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42   that I feel like is the toughest role to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44   cast and all the some people might think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:47   it would be Spock and maybe that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:48   i'm just kind of spoiled by zachary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   quinto but you know what do you do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   william shatner right like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   know whether you're going to try to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:57   william shatner impression or be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   different character but not end up as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   charismatic and chris pine has I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03   his walk that line he's not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05   william shatner impression he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   charismatic I i connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09   with him like some of the challenges so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   they didn't like him i don't i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   know how you can dislike him in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:14   movies he just he walks that line so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   amazingly well did not for a second do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   question that this is a character that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   like that i'm rooting for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:21   entertaining me and never any me some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:24   some of his readings he will do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   the shatner thing but just barely enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:29   for you to go ok you can have that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:30   right and then he goes on in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   scene of the first movie he does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   bones yes it is but you totally nailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   it in that one I don't know how he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   that but just a little chatter right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   just a little bit a little shudder goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:43   a long way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:43   yes yeah he knows just the right amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   to put in so you don't see it or hate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   but it was enough to also be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:48   callback moment of oh god it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   Kirk right like that's right it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   just some other dude in a yellow shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   right you know i think that was what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   sold it for me and then having these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   these different actors but with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   chemistry that is also very much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:05   the original chemistry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06   yeah the relationships are familiar if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   the individual people aren't I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   I recognize that triangle the bones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   McCoy you know if you recognize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   even though it's deep blue so clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:15   different people it's like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   about the Shakespeare you know the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   roles different actors also one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:20   brilliant things that I didn't mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:21   we were talking about that the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22   movie in that podcast that didn't accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   John um is we never unlike so many shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:29   and movies and things you know Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   started the original Star Trek started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   with them on their mission and so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:36   haven't seen these characters at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   point in their lives in either of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   two movies right Kirk even at one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:43   complaints a lot of people had about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44   about the 2009 movie is that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   he's made the captain of the enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   at the evidence like really he was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   cheating at his Kobayashi Maru exam and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:53   now he's did you have no other captains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   that you could put in charge and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   move on of them did get blown up right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:58   one into darkness addresses that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:01   where where Kirk gets busted back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02   first officer because he's not ready and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:05   he's got response i mean for 10 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:06   valuable lesson for that long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:09   I mean it is Star Trek they should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   made him they should have busted out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:12   cadet and then the whole movie could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   have been him just studying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16   Starfleet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:19   yeah that's one of the nice things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21   about seeing chris pine and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   relationship actually with with Pike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   with bruce greenwood which is is his you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   know his father figure essentially and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30   it's great because in the original Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   Trek you end the movies other than spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:35   dyeing Kirk does all this crazy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   and he always gets away with it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   and so it's good to have that early in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   his career like he's got that tendency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   and he's got somebody to push back at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   him and say you you know you were gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   be in trouble if you have if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   this attitude i was pleasantly surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   to have pike in as much a day of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:54   he is like in that first you know half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   hour so he people is a pretty important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   part and I i really like the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1798">TS</a>]

00:29:59   would have been a fan of his for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   and it was great to have that scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   where they're sitting in the bar and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   get a call back to yeah I remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:06   bar fight where you you know got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   crap kicked out of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:09   yeah yeah yeahs paper towels up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11   nose and everything and like it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   it was a nice scene that it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:16   humanizes Kirk who as you said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   oftentimes as the protagonist gets to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   get away with a lot of things but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:23   having him be much more of a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:24   character and kind of a script because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26   he is always walk in that edge right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   he's always walking the knife's edge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:29   trying to like not quite play by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:32   book get things done and I they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34   good job of capturing that I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36   fact that this kirk this time lines Kirk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:39   I i connect with him more because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:42   basically they killed his father off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43   right because i always felt like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   out there the original Kirk was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   made me know and we supposed to be smug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   but just maybe a little bit to smuggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50   feel like maybe his he had his life with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   his life was a little bit too easy going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   to start the quiz this card immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:55   kill off his dad and so he's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:58   someone growing up without a father has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1858">TS</a>]

00:30:59   to find out that's why he's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   screw-up at the beginning of the 2009 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:04   movie and in a way that I don't imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   you know the william shatner Kirk being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09   that kind of a screw-up so it makes epic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:10   makes him more interesting in a Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:13   Trek II kind of way of like Luke being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:14   this annoying whiny loser at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:17   beginning of the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:18   it gives the character better arc and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   feel like this guy's now a wild card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:21   because he is it basically he has had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:24   his formative experience of childhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:25   without a father has to shape him into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:28   more interesting more dangerous more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   damaged person then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   William chatter in some ways this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   uh you know the theme of this movie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37   would argue actually is is a willingness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40   to sacrifice oneself and to place the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:43   needs of the many out in front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:46   needs of the fewer the one which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   funny because that's that's from star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:49   trek to but that's not the theme of star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   trek to i would argue star trek to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   about coming to grips with aging and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:56   inevitability of mortality like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:59   Star Trek like well I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   actually one of the things that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:02   interesting about this franchise now too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   is that they had old people you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:07   agent people in all the rules so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:08   was all about aging and now we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10   young people in those same parts so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12   doesn't have to be about that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:13   not a lot of action franchises that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   a cast bolstered by old people to when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   you think about it like it's unusual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:18   tired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   yes that's right that's a deception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   yippee-ki-yay card anyway uh what I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:25   about about this this theme of sacrifice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:28   is that it gets to the heart of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   Kirk not uh not accepting defeat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:33   cheating the Kobayashi Maru and in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   movie you know Kirk has to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   sacrifice and Spock and con addresses it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:42   and in the end it's that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45   the challenge that's put to him by pike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   at the beginning and restated bike on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:51   which is when he says what would you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   do for your family and in the end Kirk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:57   is put in a position where he has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   make that choice and he does it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   sacrifices himself for these things he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   sacrificing himself to save his ship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06   to save his crew and that's a lie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:09   agree with John I think that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:11   interesting material because it's seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:14   captain kirk learn things that I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:17   sure Katt Williams chapters captain Kurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   learned yet rather than the getting old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   part we kind of have this as the growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   up part right where you realize you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   can't always win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   you can't always come up with the plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:28   that's going to get around all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:31   obstacles you can always cheat fate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   essentially and I think that's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   nice it's a nice it's a nice bookend in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   some ways to the older Star Trek films [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   where it's you know you you're on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   other side of that aging humph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   because Shatner's Kirk got to come of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:46   age with an intact set of parents in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:49   Starfleet that was the gene roddenberry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   one where there's no money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:52   everything you know everywhere all at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   peace and it's an exploratory thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   whereas this kirk right away is it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2036">TS</a>]

00:34:00   know in a more damage situation and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:03   the context of a Starfleet that is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05   you know 911 style militarized as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   reaction to all the stuff that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   in the first movie which is no big theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   of this movie as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:12   yeah so he does not he he he's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:15   end up being shaped into a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   person he just can't be that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   la-dee-da kind of smaug I win everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   and then think about my aging when i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   the retirement age of the Shatner's Kirk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   go two planets and kiss all the alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:28   yeah i mean like you said that hasn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   yes they haven't even started their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:31   five-year mission but you know in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   movie right and it was going to be a 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   mission and they're dealing with like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:38   militarized Starfleet which is very I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40   mean I can understand why star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:41   people may not like this movie because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43   it's not the Starks they remembered but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:44   it makes for much more interesting story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:46   yes and and i would argue makes for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:49   interesting debates about its decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:52   the characters make which every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   hear somebody say oh it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   explosions in action and I remember when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58   Star Trek used to be about issues it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00   like did you not see the movie did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02   not see spot talking about how drone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04   strikes are immoral and did you not see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06   the whole thing about a guy in command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   of the military trying to create a war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:13   I mean hello the pen and the following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   going back to sacrifice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   there's also that thread of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:20   that Admiral Marcus is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   sacrifice is is using as a sacrifice you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25   know sending Kirk and you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:28   incursion into the Klingon space and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   that stuff is he's willing to sacrifice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:33   Kirk in the enterprise whether they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:36   to or not right not himself right is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   same thing with sun sending just sit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   the edge of the neutral zone and fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:41   tore your torpedoes to the Klingon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:44   homeworld it's you know the remote no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46   risk versus the personal I great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:49   personal risk connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   not to mention you get to as a bonus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:53   murder all the people who are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:54   interpret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:55   exactly hiding like well and this star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:59   trek home gets to the the sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   root of one of my one of my frustrations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:04   with star trek over the years which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   to say there's a such a heavy focus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:10   the alien and it's not that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:13   there's an interesting things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:14   there's very much all an ongoing threat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   and star trek about culture right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   cultures meeting cultures having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   different cultures you know Leslie steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   on a flower and gets put to death record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   and I think so but to me with a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:27   with that for me was always that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:30   yeah it's interesting from sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:31   Alpine sky theoretical point of view but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   a lot of times i found it hard to relate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34   to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:35   I like a lot of people consider our spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   and data you know such interesting major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:40   characters and although they don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:41   emotion and what's that like and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:42   always found them kind of boring because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   if that like that that's not a person I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   can relate to and I think that having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48   story that revolves largely around you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:51   know people for lack of better words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   rather than like guys in funny suits for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:56   guys with makeup on their foreheads it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58   makes it more relatable story to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:01   makes it more interesting because no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   matter what happens in the future people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   are still fundamentally people like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:08   if you end up in that future where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:09   there's no like money and everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   happy and you don't there's still people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   who get pissed off and people who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:16   know try to do other people and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18   stuff and so you know rather than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20   guess maybe I'm being pessimistic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22   not wanting to see people's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:23   nature I'll Roddenberry but like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   the reality of it like look that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   are always going to be Petty and cruel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:28   to a certain extent but they're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:29   always going to be you know heroic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   try to raise the rise to the occasion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33   and that is something i can recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:36   and as a story i really enjoy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:39   rotten berries future was a great tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   to do actual science fiction because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:44   you're going to like the thing was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:45   put whitewash the the human stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:48   we eventually evolved beyond that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   but now let the better angels of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:53   nature as exemplified by Starfleet land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:56   on other planets with other people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   it's an even more challenging situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2278">TS</a>]

00:37:59   because you know attics you know it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01   get to sell twat you get to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:02   Twilight Zone / real so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   speculative sci-fi type stories without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:07   being bogged down by all of the petty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:10   human type things but at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   like especially for star wars fan you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   find that a little bit of antiseptic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:17   you want something else i mean it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:18   the reason i guess they had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:19   wherewithal to make Spock half-human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21   because a full Vulcan or data or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:24   whatever it's like yeah alright you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27   do a few things with that but you spoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   without inner struggle is like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31   so the inner struggle makes makes a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33   difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:34   yeah then this one like it's okay I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   this one because it the run Barry run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:39   has to exist as a contrast to this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:42   because it's like what if humanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   didn't evolve up out of that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   sort of pizza were all in into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   enlightened state because we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   sidetracked by these things that always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   sidetrack us like you know oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:53   suddenly there's danger in our fear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   response kicks in and you start making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:56   bad decisions and you know good people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:59   have to fight against them whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:00   i thought this movie speaking of a peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03   weller it's not miyazaki level here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   they did a reasonable job not making him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:08   you know just crazy ridiculous bad guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:12   who just wants to do terrible things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:13   like he believes more or less that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16   doing the right thing that kind of lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:17   at the animal right at the end he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:18   little more seat scenery-chewing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20   you're right he's got he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22   perspective right he's totally got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24   perspective right everyone has their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:25   reasons right and he and begin the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   has reasons he's not just like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29   rubbing his hands together twirling his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:30   moustache and the Klingons are even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:33   traditional star trek Lord they are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:36   nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:37   in the original series so they are a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:40   threat it he says war is inevitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   cycle yeah war with the Klingons another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   exactly is gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   what do you think's cap bomb all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:47   Klingons Jesus we have to we have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:50   preemptive strike before they get us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   only patrick stewart could bring these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:53   two races together only Nixon could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:56   to children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:57   originally the topic of this podcast was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:58   going to be about the star trek movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00   vs Star Trek TV and which will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   great topic and we'll do it sometime but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04   something John brought up there i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:05   say is is part of the interesting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:09   here is that it movies have big budgets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   and need to bring in big audiences and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   it only can tell two hours of story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:16   TV series can tell these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   stories and then move on to the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:19   planet and star trek was conceived as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21   TV series and it's become a movie series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:24   and even in the classic Star Trek movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:28   it there was struggle there because some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:31   of the episodes are some of the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:32   that don't work so well read kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35   like TV episodes really long TV episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38   and satellites or or involving aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:43   who don't age because they live in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   magical planet where they don't age but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47   the notarized plastic surgery leads are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   very angry about anyway we'll get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   in a later episode but I i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53   I think that's part of it too is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:56   that a movie like these JJ Abrams movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58   it's going to be a big-budget action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2458">TS</a>]

00:40:59   movie it it kind of has to be and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02   the question is what else is in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03   and how effective it is it as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   adventure movie and doesn't make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:07   think a little bit and just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:08   interesting character dynamics and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   that's why I really like this movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12   even though it it's got things you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:13   pick apart and especially if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   try to find fault you can find some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17   fault but I enjoyed the whole thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:19   came out really you know excited and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:22   energized and happy and have a great had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   a great ride and when I thought about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26   more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:26   it unfolded more but it's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:29   be like a hundred episodes of a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   series it just can't be it's a two-hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   action summer blockbuster and and it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:36   to play by those rules to a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:39   speaking of finding fault i was telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:40   a damn Miller tonight that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:43   this is a mistake but it may be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   mistake for that from the perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:46   this podcast but I'm seeing a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:47   these movies with my son who is nine now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   I and seeing this movie or any movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:54   like it with my son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:55   I'm not gonna say completely blocks out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57   my ability to look to look objectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:58   at the movie but like i mentioned this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   about cars before to the pixar movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   this your kryptonite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   if you are next to a nine-year-old like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   I took him to see this mean i showed him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   the 2009 version i got a chance to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:09   it again because I thought you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   like it and he did and I took him to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   this movie and this movie was so perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:17   like this could be his like his star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:18   wars movie was so perfect for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   because there was nothing it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   gory like it wasn't too scary and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:25   the action scenes were just unbelievable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   I mean I enjoyed it too but I'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:28   to myself wait a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   did you because I came out of that movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:31   thinking it was just fantastic like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:34   it's not saying the critical thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:35   part of my brains have been disengaged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:36   it's all things wrong with it but I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   cannot come down off of that high and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:39   half of it was because i was sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:40   next to a nine-year-old all-time who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   just you know floored by the whole movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   like I was telling them he came to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   we saw the movie and for the next three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:47   days he would come from school going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   the computer i'm going to trailers apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   com watch the star trek into darkness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   trailer over and over and over again you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   know you you can forgive a lot if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:56   having fun and this is a not to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   back to what is one of my least favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00   episodes of the uncomfortable but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   we did the Avengers you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   clear that it was an Andy and I code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   didn't have fun when you seen that movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:07   and he saw all the flaws i would argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   that most movies have lots of things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   could pick apart if you aren't having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   good time and you forgive them if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   are and I know that seems sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:18   strange but I think it's true that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   will forgive a lot if in the end i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:22   really enjoyed it and and I'll and if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:25   am not having fun i will sit there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   get very angry and I will tear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   everything apart and and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:32   start the star trek movies and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:33   target a lot like the Hulk that I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:36   the whole don't make me angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:37   no I just I I'm always angry damn that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:40   our secret it is the other thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:42   into darkness though that like i was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   was actually mention Andy it is well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   it's a movie like I know you guys only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:49   dinner together without me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:50   we were talking about the Avengers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   begin time we got to really enhance a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   little bit but you know and and what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:57   was saying was that like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59   the movie also need something exemplary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:01   to to bring it up in into darkness what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03   I thought it was was the dialogue in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:07   script I thought they were there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   scenes that if you could describe them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   to me in the abstract i would say that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   gonna be death on the screen like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15   know Spock and and her are gonna be in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:18   fight and oh yeah Kirk is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   there in like like oh that's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:21   terrible or whatever but they pulled it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   off like it was just you know three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   four lines all good lines well-acted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:28   provide like they were able to flesh out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:31   that relationship in the midst of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:32   action movie in a way that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:35   cloying that was clever and that felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   meaningful and like the same thing if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:38   you describe me out in the new star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   movies sparking are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:41   we're gonna have a thing and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   what what wait a second what and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   totally believe that relationship on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47   screen now like I accept it as canon in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49   this new universe it does not bother me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51   in the slightest and I think it adds to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:52   the movie and I never would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:53   predicted that so I think that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55   second movie here is it has removed most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:59   of the goofy silly things that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:00   like about the first movie added in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   their place like good I mean I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:05   I like moonlighting to like so I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:06   you have a little silly space between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:09   people that are that illuminate their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   characters and surrounded by what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13   think is a perfectly competent space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   action movie as Dan said probably one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:18   the best Star Wars movies it's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:19   out many many years I you know how can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:22   not like that like i do see the flaws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   now stepping away from it and some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   the the shine is worn off or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   but the good stuff just so vastly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   outweighs that you know I still know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32   those characters and having those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:33   characters you you you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:36   there's good dialogue you're absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   right one of my favorites is when Kirk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   who are talking in the turbolift about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43   Spock and he apologized because your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   boyfriend's body is like that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:46   unprofessional and she's no you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:48   and then the line that he says when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   we saw you having a fight and then he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   that moment where he says oh my god what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55   must that be like just is that how would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   that be to be a fight with Spock or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:00   can go is so funny just so great in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   door Harvey staying right here right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   already yes I asked a question about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06   whether her still going mad at him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:07   it sucks and it says something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:08   uncertain which works as that which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11   works as a logical Spock line but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   works as a you know rides I'm knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:16   between friends statement about ya and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:19   of course the line that my wife and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20   have sounded surprisingly quoted back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:23   each other since we saw this movie over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   and over again is no more metaphors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27   that's an order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   i wonder if-if i should spy so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:33   second time because i'm a gigantic nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   the second time I saw this movie I took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:36   notes for the podcast for the podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:40   sure did you have your Starfleet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   technical data on your lap you have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44   of those pens with a light yeah I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   have one of those pens with the light so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:49   and I didn't have any reference material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   with me but i did my handwriting is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   terrible that in absolute darkness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   it's no worse it's amazing how you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57   you say you went into dark notes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   darkness nemesis Tom Scott uh-huh so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:07   gonna I'm gonna obviously this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:08   chronological because i took the notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10   as I was watching movie but if there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:11   parts where everybody wants to jump in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   and talk about it will just by quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15   step through the movie I want to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17   with the opening sequence which is James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20   bond-like in a way right you have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   fun action thing that that opens it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:25   plus it gives you that flavor of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:26   original TV series like they're on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   mission where they're aliens and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   going to violate the prime directive but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:33   i wanted to point out to watching it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   second time i was thinking this block is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:38   risking his life to save this planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:39   that there's a parallel there between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42   this planet and Vulcan which they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   save and they're trying to save these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:46   it's it's a call back it's a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:50   filled with callbacks to star trek to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:51   i'll grant you what's interesting here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   is that something I hadn't thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:54   originally instructor to we there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:57   faked the death of Spock and the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:00   the crew in the Kobayashi Maru at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:01   beginning he so here Spock almost dies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:04   again at the very beginning of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   second star trek movie I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:07   was kind of knowing and obviously this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   is also sparks moment of self-sacrifice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11   and duty where he finally accepts his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:14   fate it's interesting that he is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   you know really like coming to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18   he's like okay this is the moment this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   is my big moment I can just embrace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   death and he you know he shows he's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:25   common sense of self and he shuts off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   his emotions and then they save them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   obviously but it was interesting that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:32   was he was kind of like almost eager to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:35   to die in that located oh you may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:38   projecting yeah well no I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:39   a point where the the again that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42   if you want to play with destiny or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   there are things that are commonalities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:45   between the two timelines I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:48   interesting i think it's interesting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:49   this jumping forward a little bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51   you know in in star trek to I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   know Kirk ass to come to terms with sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   of being bumped upstairs right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   he's an admiral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:58   yes and and instead we have Kirk here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   busted down and taking off the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:03   off the captain's chair so that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   again interesting divergence in a Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:08   Trek the motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:09   picture reference of Pikes outfit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:10   basically the outfits from Star Trek the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12   motion picture and when he comes to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   Kirk what's going on in the bar he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   they gave her back to me which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   line that's that's a line that Kirk says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   in Star Trek the motion picture so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   references don't just start start and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26   stop with wrath of khan there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:27   references throughout i'm going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:31   about the enterprise underwater though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:34   yeah we should you're right you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:35   now it is airtight should because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:38   goes to space such a base has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:39   pressure and and there's pressure in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   also within the atmosphere although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   there are others it was built in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   atmosphere was built the atmosphere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   we've seen like Star Trek Voyager the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:48   Voyager could land on a planet and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   tomorrow is yesterday the classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:51   episode they're down with clouds when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   they kidnap that poor fighter pilot so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:56   but we haven't seen the enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:57   underwater before and why is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   underwater because it's cool because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:02   cool that's why it's underwater they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   want that scene of them coming out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06   the water i would look very cool but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   I was thinking also think it makes no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   sense to hide your your spaceship in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12   water but i will give them that but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:15   have to quibble with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17   listen I i like the idea that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19   probably discourteous like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:20   what's a great idea we could put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   underwater and there was like no no I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:25   the captain put it underwater it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:27   have explained it away with boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:28   dialogue but they could have been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:29   well the and atmosphere is ionized the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   transporters won't work so we had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:32   bring the ship down but we don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:33   anybody to see it but they gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   that's so boring that you know you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   say that there's a magnetic field they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:38   can't use the transporters and surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:41   some reason that just inspires don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:43   forgive your keebler yeah well they hid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   they hid the enterprising the rings of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   Saturn in the first movie which also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:48   makes 0 so yeah alright little Titan's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:51   atmosphere but yeah whatever it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53   have evidence that none none of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:54   things make sense from a space science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   increases corner they like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:57   enterprise coming out of things it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59   cool but I just have to say I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:00   there are probably better solutions to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:02   that same problem what the solution to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:05   having a cool opening scene to a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07   that's on a planet that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09   problem they were self-help maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   should have hidden it in matara nebula [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   when we're back on earth we see Captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:17   Kirk making out with a couple of cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:18   ladies and as you do and it when you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:22   back when you watch this again sometime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:25   the beginning of that scene I i could it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27   could be saurian brandy or something but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29   it looks kinda like there's a space bong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   in that apartment i'm just saying watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:34   for it all bonds are spaced think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   might be a space planning i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:37   i'm not i'm not a I'm not a recreational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:39   drug user but I'm just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:41   are you a space mark there may be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   spaceport in the cat girl's apartment or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:47   Kirk's or current Sparx you lit up it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:50   an artifact of cultural significance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:52   her race pace yeah totally insensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   sorry catgirls sorry half-naked cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:58   ladies 98% naked cat ladies let's let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:03   see the the death theme starts with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:07   his argument with Pike where where Kirk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:10   is arrogant and says how many died that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   1i didn't lose one person nobody dies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   today is that's really a do we skip over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17   it or is it subsequently the Mickey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   Mickey kills much people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   yeah I think that's it was coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   this week I think that's next right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   thought it was right after the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:26   Mickey Mickey from my also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   cumberbatch fans next to me when he came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   on-screen they're like it's Mickey like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:33   to start laughing and i said that i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   we put on weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:36   well it's there was 10 years ago the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:39   from from from Doctor Who and said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42   was daughter is dying and Benedict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   Cumberbatch comes to him and here's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   self-sacrifice again you know he will he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:49   will save his daughter in exchange for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:52   him but you know sacrificing himself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:55   his honor and blowing up the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   Starfleet facility and he takes the deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:00   here's the thing about that that segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   of the movie because when I was this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   early on the movie when I all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   critical thinking was still engaged and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   i was thinking like this this plotline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   of this guy who's going to do this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12   is basically gonna be a pawn of content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   to fulfill this part of the pot there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   not room in this movie for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18   actually do that so the way they chose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20   to fit in was to almost do it is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:23   silent movie where there's almost no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   dialogue like Mickey is there is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   music healing and Mickey right but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   they basically did it like they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:32   look we have enough time like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:33   lines there's no way we can come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35   three lines that do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:36   nothing but cause damage this so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:37   just play it like a silent movie show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   him show the six dollars shows just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   you know two lines with him and con and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   it it's the like I don't know if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   worked that well even in the silent mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47   but I applaud them for finding a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49   creative solution to getting these plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   points and not exercising that plotline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   entirely because i was another option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:54   because you got a whole lot about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:55   movie to fit in here but to have it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   there and still have to be affecting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   moving and interesting and exciting when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:00   the little ring blows up and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:01   stuff with almost no dialogue it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:04   was kinda like the opening section on up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:05   you know with no speaking part i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:08   thinking it's almost a montage to music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10   and i agree i tanned in Jason mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:13   the music there and I know a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:14   people were mentioned on twitter before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   we start talking about this that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:17   want to talk about the music i will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   that that q is very it's very unlike the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:23   rest of the music from this movie or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   previous yes you get this piano you soft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   piano music playing and yet it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:29   incredibly effective if for what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:33   and it's one of the cues that stands out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:36   more to me in this movie much as I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:39   a lot of the cno's work for the score is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:42   pretty good especially some of the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   themes but I'm sort of mixed on his work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:47   overall yeah he he this is i read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:51   review of the the inductor soundtrack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   but said it's like the expansion pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55   for the original soundtrack and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   about right right i mean it's he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   go use his themes that he already had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:02   and he's added some some more in and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   you know I bought the soundtrack and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:05   like it but it is in some ways it's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:08   more than saying it's hampering some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   ways by the same also by the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   with the original which was that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:13   bought the original soundtrack there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15   actually that deluxe edition i think ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:16   boychuk actually turned me on to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18   was there was like a double disc version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:19   which is much better because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21   actually flushed out rather than being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   these vary at times random and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   disjointed Q's right but overall I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27   he doesn't really hold up if you put him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   up against someone to me like John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31   Williams where you can listen to a john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33   williams sku in a vacuum and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:36   fantastic piece of music whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:39   it's applied to film where is the sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   like there's no Imperial March in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:44   movie like it you know follow up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45   soundtrack to star wars with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:46   soundtrack that has some song is iconic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:49   the imperial march like that's a tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:50   order and I think he's doing well to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:53   have like the first movie I think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   landed solidly on both feet with a theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:59   that was both like a recognizable star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:02   trek but not simply a restatement of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   original song and that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:05   segues into it in the end is your little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   reward and they just continue that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   competent manner in this movie i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   is a reasonable achievement and it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   be too much to ask for him to like me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15   do throw another amazing song in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:18   out of nowhere most star trek movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   scores have found a you know their take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:23   on a Star Trek theme and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   they've done other Star Trek movies they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   use that again that was true with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:30   your Goldsmith and was true with James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:31   Horner and and you know that's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:34   been how they do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:35   yes so some nice work but overall maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   not that it does a great supporting job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39   yeah I like the I like a Star Trek theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   a lot like oh yeah i agree we're here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   the best part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:44   yeah I i love how his Star Trek theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47   weaves in and out of the original theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49   yes and it I mean it just fits and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:53   liked hearing that here too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55   I and again i might think the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58   film had a better score but i just love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:04   how they weave in and out of each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:05   yeah i mean pic yeah I was a big demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   yeah I mentioned uh that this i think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:11   proposal absolute two or three whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   the one we did with Ben was own moves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   that movie scores that actually Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:18   Trek the motion picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:19   despite being kind of a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:20   invisible movie The Times has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   fantastic sore because it's your goals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:23   with who is too is a master and this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:26   me if you put these two things exchequer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28   I'd say well i really like to quino's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:29   theme but a goldsmith i would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31   give props and just like every every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33   piece on that works so well even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:37   don't care about the movie like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   I listen to that score sometimes and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   itself and i haven't seen the Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:42   the motion picture and 15 20 years and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:46   still know i can still evocative and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   still works the problem of the Goldsmith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:49   stuff is that is that he scored star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:52   trek one and struck five right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:54   there's good music and bad movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:57   then made and then it was the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:58   generation theme which means it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   of like marked for all time as being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   starter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:02   the next generation theme so that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   couldn't they couldn't reference that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06   a movie like this because it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   it was taken away and it's fine to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:11   canvas again his theme is is excellent i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13   really like it it's very catchy it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   a great job of setting the scene and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   tone and is very distinct and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:20   David was saying making a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:21   it's it's clearly a star trek the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:24   clearly a theme that has like a modules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   to the past but is is is appropriate for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:29   this different universe and timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:33   that we're in a little more Marshall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:35   it's got a little more of a march going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:36   on you know there's there's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   more adventure element to it rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   being sort of sixties and sci-fi right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42   now and then it's also got that mournful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44   element because it's you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46   I think the first time you start to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:48   is when Kirk's father dies and then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:51   the opening of the original one arm as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:55   it it's just lovely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:56   one of the things I really like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:58   gia quino's scores for this and for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:01   mission impossible 3 and 4 guess it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:04   not really called for Ghost Protocol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:07   whatever is that they they pay really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:11   nice homage to the original themes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:15   the original styles and again they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:18   there maybe not cohesive scores that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20   would just listen to on their own but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:23   the different elements are really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:24   and they fit and yeah they just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:28   fit these different elements of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   story especially mission impossible i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32   think those actually might be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34   scores than the the track ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:37   hello again this i love the trek theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   better than anything in the Mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:42   Impossible movies there's a difference i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:44   think with a difference in when you with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   this type of movie they were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:47   about where the music is underneath the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:50   action and goes along with it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:52   there's a switch that happens when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   the movie changes from like an action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:57   scene that is scored with music to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   scene that is scored with music to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   II a music video for an awesome song way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   that that switch happens when it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   an iconic theme or when you picture like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:08   it's almost as if the movie was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10   choreographed to music like the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12   came first and runners made a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:13   spaceships that did the others in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:14   certain scenes you know have that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:17   just talk about Luke Skywalker you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   dual sons seen or whatever that is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:22   shooting a music video for that for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   you know swelling movement in this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26   right or even if it's just something as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   simple as like that the music we can all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30   hear when when Lucas aiming a photon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32   torpedo haha haha I'm revoking your star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:37   wars cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:37   yeah I have a crossing the stream better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   know it into the exhaust port like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   can all hear that you know and or any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:44   these things work and I another example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:46   is not from science fiction is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:47   movie Goodfellas where it is it took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:49   extensive use of pop culture songs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51   we know and they're so dominant in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:54   minds that again the movie becomes let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56   just have some video to go along with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:58   this great song and like make it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3658">TS</a>]

01:00:59   work together and it's not a crime for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   that not to happen but I mean I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03   was almost a conscious choice not to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:04   that and I think back to you again be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   the word list Mickey bring blowing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   scenes which were not just scored in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:11   more subdued kind of like the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:14   might do a drama or or something but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:16   also like shot they were more dark and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:19   depressing as England right whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:21   Randy and overcast then and kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:24   different like when is the last time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   saw some ice a science-fiction movie or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:29   a star trek for your particular really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:30   commit to a mood like that like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32   scenes in Iran mean I was president has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:33   there been a star trek movie that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   been that dark in that segment both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:36   literally and like you know figuratively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:39   and emotionally I I when I think back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:42   all the Star Trek movies I think of when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:43   they're around the campfire in Yosemite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   and start 45 that's yeah that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47   that's that's a dark moment for other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:48   reasons its grip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   I don't know about dark yeah deep space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:51   nine is not a movie but it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   disturbing but it's regarding the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   in the movie franchises it's it's a butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   shot like a TV sets and yeah maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   something in first contest yeah when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   card is upsetting he breaks his little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   ships Marianne dark yet the mind must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:06   drawn here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:07   yeah okay back to the back to the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:10   here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:11   contact john harrison sorry i was hired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:16   Harris uh attacks the the meeting event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:20   is being held where they have everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:21   which is apparently a godfather three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:25   yeah Carol you're gonna reference a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27   Godfather movie don't make up of three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:29   all the five ships are there and pike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:35   dies which is very sad and Kirk is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37   clever and sort of makes cons little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:40   shuttle sorry carrison Harrison's little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   shuttle blow up we should we should talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44   about the lacs security on Starfleet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:48   headquarters and thursday and wartime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:52   and its archives and that's so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54   well he's got a he's got clearance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56   obviously but he's he's out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   shooting stuff for a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   nobody nothin nobody knows by now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:03   there's a couple guys rifles right who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:05   get your please be sure we have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   weapons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:08   that's right i have lots of weapons that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10   are so my next note is actually about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:15   the about the torpedoes that Scotty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:18   doesn't want to have the torpedoes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:20   the ship and he quits and then Spock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22   argue very strongly against the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24   drone strikes against Harrison on on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:29   Chronos the Klingon homeworld which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:31   misspelled by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:32   well that's the human spelling humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:35   it's translates transliterated you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:38   know Klingon yet they haven't learned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:39   yet except for oh noes lordosis that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:42   it you which is funny because it started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   in Star Trek six were shining and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   Klingon but yes when I saw this in 3d i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:49   noticed that the lens flares are also in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   3d and its really doesn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53   and it's very weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:54   okay I don't mind the lens flares in 2d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56   and 3d I don't see why they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:59   it's very bad again I mentioned uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:02   there's that great scene on the bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:04   where McCoy is repeating metaphorically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:07   sort of given before and Curtis had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09   mouth and orders him to stop having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:10   metaphors which I i made me laugh so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:15   Klingons we should talk about that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17   have we have what i would say is maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:18   the most unnecessary action sequence in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:21   the movie which is the the spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   chase on the Klingon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25   planet where they go through the narrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   space and will fit will fit that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29   it's very Star Wars actually sits yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:31   just wanting talking straight out Empire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:34   yeah but not as well because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36   know it advances any of the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38   to be in that scene like yeah it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:40   only thing is that was under descent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42   they have good dialogue but then in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   action sequence there's kind of nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:45   and they just trying to let off a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:47   of zingers but like you not to give an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:50   example from Star Wars like wen Han [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:52   Solo's being chased around by the Empire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:53   and going through all the asteroids and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55   everything what's at stake is his like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:58   he's trying to impress a girl basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   like he doesn't want to look like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   the guy who screwed up and like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04   it's he feels pressure to successfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:07   escaped for reasons that have nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:08   do with his life and like that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10   the subtext of that whole chase sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12   or subtext this one is like he's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14   down on the planet where something's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:15   gonna happen with a guy I gotta get down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17   there any and in between this chase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:18   scene takes place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:19   yeah it didn't it didn't really work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   also i don't really understand there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:22   this whole thing about it's a it's a an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   empty part of the planet where there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   a disaster and the moon is kind of blown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28   up which is I guess the star trek six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   reference to inconvenience but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:31   really make much sense it's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   explained why have they abandoned why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   the Klingons abandoned part of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:36   planets value if the moon is crashing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38   into your city you'll probably been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:41   yeah but every three days it resets the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:43   right when you come between remuneration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:46   photo city doesn't push this and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:49   question Klingon architecture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   architecture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:52   yeah the city is where he's he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:55   ship is going through these things it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   doesn't it I found it very confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   yeah ya think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01   although i did i do like the the look of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:04   the Klingon bird-of-prey are or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06   they are they're little flyer a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:08   security flyer things but they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:10   that they've got that sent burp redesign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   yeah and then and so then they end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   down on the planet and her goes out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:16   I think it's a nice scene where Kirk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18   although he does a little late is get up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20   the guns was like okay she's gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:22   talk to them here your guns from a butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:27   and then there's a fire fight because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:29   Klingons are warlike and they don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:30   to listen to people and and harrison job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:33   shoots him up and kills them all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:35   then add as a thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:38   Curtis I he's going to give him lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:39   punches yeah that makes sense and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41   actually thought this was not only you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43   know obviously showing that he is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:44   Superman he's got these amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46   abilities because he liked the jumps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48   like 15 feet at one point she kills all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50   the Klingons and that better than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52   Kurt punches him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:53   it has no effect and I wrote down on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:56   little notepad revenge punches do no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:58   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4018">TS</a>]

01:06:59   revenge is pointless this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01   important lesson for Captain Kirk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:02   learn don't punch revenge bunches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:05   ineffective also convery powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:08   although if that was a regular guy those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:10   punches would have been effective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12   yes if if he had just placed his fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:14   together perhaps maybe and used it both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:17   his hands I think that a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:19   fiber pistol-whipping with the phaser i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:22   did like seeing the batlets in battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   oh yeah that was nice touch ok so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:27   take they take John Harrison yes back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:30   the enterprise and put him in the brig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32   and which is kind of a neat it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:35   a neat set and there's like the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37   hole that you can move around that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:39   hasn't seen his arm through which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   kind of future ii and he's he's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:43   Hannibal Lecter e in that scene to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45   know he's standing tall and marching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47   around and he's like behind bars and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:49   you're still really terrified of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:51   he's he's definitely a caged animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:53   which I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:55   it's pretty bad assignment forever has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:56   to sit in that little desk in the Brig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:59   well just write yeah that ignore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:01   everything that's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:02   yeah like the guy and then the alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04   who's got the funny head and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06   they're just gonna sit there and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:08   just wait just something that you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:11   in here yeah yeah that's scary guy might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:14   break out so don't don't let him do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16   we meet I guess we did this earlier but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:21   the this is where Carol Marcus becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23   more important cocks and and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25   another one of my again if I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:27   live i love this movie but i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   list one of my problems with it i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:30   see the point of Carol Marcus in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32   movie she comes on under assumed name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:34   because she wants to find out what her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:35   dad is doing ok and but she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:40   what does she do in this movie is she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:42   upon at one point in the end game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:44   yeah but it's not necessary I I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   like she was not a necessary character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48   while she is necessary for carbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50   eventually but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:51   this movie she made a spot jealous she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:54   she's there for the underwear so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:56   seemed doesn't make any sense let me let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:58   me ask if you guys can explain this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   me she and Kirk like go to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:01   shuttlecraft that doesn't go anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:03   and she tells him to not turn around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05   she said she'd like takes off her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07   clothes and it's just in her underwear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:08   and then and then they go back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:11   bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:11   it doesn't I it doesn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13   are both i think i was his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:15   Lindelof didn't authorize already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:18   apologized as as well he should I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20   that's progress progress will eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:22   be not having seems like that but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:24   intermediate step is having the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:26   like that and then feeling embarrassed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:27   about it and making a public statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:28   that you apologized for later and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:30   best you could say for it is that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:31   least it was brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:32   I have no problem with the cat girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   because they're in there naked and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   naked and they're enjoying themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:37   and good for them but this is like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:40   there's no reason for it now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:43   embarrassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:44   I can cut that out of the blu-ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46   release yeah the Phantom at it will take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48   care of that it headed into darkness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:51   whatever that is so we end up i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:55   skipping some stuff because you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:56   was dark and I didn't want to write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58   lot I i wanted to talk about the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:01   Vengeance i think it is the u.s. fringes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:05   yeah Admiral Marcus ship which Scotty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   goes and finds they call i am using seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:09   again worker call Scotty and Scotty's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:12   downtown san francisco at a at a club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:15   Bob you know with with his little buddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:17   cancer and he gets a call and once his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:19   help and and of course he does it and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:21   ends up finding that that over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23   Jupiter behind the moon at Jupiter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:26   they're building this giant warship I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:31   like the contrast thats painted a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:33   points in the movie of that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35   enterprise is not even though it gets in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:38   big battles in these big action movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40   it's not it's an explorer ship we see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:42   saving trying to save aliens on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:45   far-off planet at the beginning it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47   lower ship it can be a submarine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:49   it's it's not a warship it's for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:51   exploration like die hard against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:52   bruce willis of this movie is a crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54   as all the time right but but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   meant to just be a weapon of of death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:59   it's supposed to be annexed exploration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:00   vehicle and that's what Scotty says when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:02   he quits and and here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:05   the warship right this is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:08   personification or what ship ification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:10   of of what the enterprise isn't so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:14   know and and so I liked that contrast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:16   also star trek 3 Scott reference here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:20   which is in star trek 3 Scotty sabotages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:23   the big fancy ship to save the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:25   enterprise and here Scotty sabotages the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:27   big fancy ship again he's got he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:29   really gonna break it didn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:31   triple their food celsior yeah so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33   is like that yeah Scotty it don't get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35   skype his bad side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:37   Scotty will break Scott Scotty's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39   badass alright i will sneak onto your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41   ship and brakes and brake it to someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43   it i like the Excelsior though I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:46   gonna be out of our guys that was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:48   cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:49   there's a moment and in this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:50   there's more schools like hey the chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:52   it's actually pretty nice so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:53   another wait for you you'll get there by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55   like it's got more shadowing I like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:57   scotty broke broke those ships and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4317">TS</a>]

01:12:00   although i know there's a line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:01   dialogue where they say that that uh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   Vengeance is supposed to be run by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:05   minimal crew but it's like a really big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:07   ship and Scotty Scotty appears to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:10   able to walk for hours and never see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:13   anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:15   it's true he's not there's no jeopardy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:17   he's not like duckin behind and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:20   guys are walking down a quarter and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:21   crossing he's literally like do to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23   do walking through vast stretches of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:26   Starship and there's nobody there which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:28   seemed it just seemed that very dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30   to be I feel like it i always wonder all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:33   the people are doing on the enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:34   but it seems like the only people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:36   are important like the people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:37   bridge you flown by 1i sickbay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:39   yeah and a couple guys in engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:41   even an engineering like what are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:42   the other non Scotty people doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:43   besides dying tragically occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:45   they're just taking up oxygen arrested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:47   sure Scully doesn't sabotage the ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:49   yeah right actually accidentally it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:51   all about job security i mean look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:53   look at a hard time to check off at with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55   taking over for Scotty right like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:56   got that straight off arranged in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:58   way he likes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4378">TS</a>]

01:12:59   put on Richards kind of an odd fake too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:02   I would imagine someone who's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:03   check off you've been shadowing Scotty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   for a while take over this war traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:08   if seem like an odd choice on Kirk's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:10   part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:11   how'd you like to be the long-serving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:13   second-in-command of the engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:15   deck to be told that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17   the 18 year old kid was going to be your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:19   boss instead of you Jason russian kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   he's taking off his genius he's out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:24   it's that Kirk he's always going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:25   promote the bridge people over over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:28   everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:29   myopic yeah so they're they're so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:32   there's another interesting action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:35   sequence it's kind of a replay of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:36   first movie where they get in little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:38   suits and zip around and in the debris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:41   fields between the two ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:43   yes you know it's not a bad scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:47   although I i'm not sure it isn't kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49   superfluous it is JJ likes that likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:52   those suits he likes traveling really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:54   fast enough but what I like about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:55   part of the movie and it goes back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:57   that thing about one of the themes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   this movie being a question of its not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:03   purely polar kind of there's a good guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:04   and a bad guy part right well there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:06   great turn in this movie where they take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:08   on out of the brig ma ma and they take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:11   him to sick bay and draws blood that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:12   might be important later mom and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:16   then you know there's a moment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:18   they realize what Marcus is doing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:20   all of a sudden the logical thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:22   is to work with Khan and i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:26   moment i love the fact that we're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:28   position now we're working with this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:30   who we know is the bad guy the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:32   there's another bad guy in this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:35   too and I i love that there's this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:39   action scene where khan and Kirk are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:41   trying to help each other survive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:42   get to the other ship and then of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:45   it turns back on that ship nice i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:47   we're helping him but i love the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:49   that this movie is all my going into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:52   with I you know I had these expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:54   of its all about that Cumberbatch is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56   bad guy and then in the middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:57   movie all of a sudden you're like wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:59   second what if he's not really the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:03   guy in this movie are we supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05   play will change Jason well no II mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:08   he's still a bad guy but he's necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:11   he's got for the good like I mean we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:13   the same problem that we have with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15   Marcus which is that his intentions or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:18   at least the intentions that he presents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:20   are domestically moral right like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:24   wants to save his friends who are have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:26   all been like frozen in carbonite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:27   granted him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29   carbonite oh yeah i'll type i close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:33   enough but i mean granted once they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:36   out of their torpedoes they might try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:38   take another billion galaxies button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:40   every right now we're talking about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:42   know it's still nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:43   he wants to help his friends writing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45   that that's what resonates that's how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   gets curtright what would you do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:48   your family is you know he's realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:52   exactly where to get coordinated but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:53   there's clearly a part of that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:55   just if he was really just a bad guy he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:59   would let all of those people died right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:02   and just try to like take over the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:03   by himself but he's not he's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:07   seems to have some investment in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:10   people and that gives him a redemptive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:12   quality which makes him more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:16   as a villain or antagonist if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:19   to use that word i thought that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:21   good kirk moment when you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23   Cumberbatch's making his pitch to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:25   you know we should work together or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:27   trust me or let me explain the situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:28   and I guess it was a jerk and bones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:30   they both turn away from him and walked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:32   past the camera and Kirk says you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34   know maybe we should like think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   shows like Kirk head come back from his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:39   just being mad want to punch the guy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:40   the face to being the sort of canny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:42   savvy Kirk right always looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:45   situation and trying to figure things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:46   out and isn't it completely willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:48   turn on a dime and say he makes a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:51   case we should really think about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:52   and then bones like all your crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:54   weekend you know trust this guy so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:55   that was a good kirk moment that skirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:57   can no longer focused on vengeance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:59   thinking and thinking about it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:00   clearly and knowing how dangerous con is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:02   but realizing that this situation has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:06   gotten a lot more complicated know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:07   he thought it was and yeah it's it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:10   good and and you know because like are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:12   you out of your mama humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:14   he's like well you know i'm gonna i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:15   gonna listen to him and but from cons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:17   perspective he says you know despite you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:20   trying to punch me and stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:23   the reason the basically the reason he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:25   lets them live is he sees something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:29   querque or at least he says that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:31   that you're not like Marcus you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:33   little more sense and part of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:35   yes I can use you but part of that is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:37   can trust that you are going to behave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:39   in a in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:41   a more rational way then that other guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:43   and that's interesting to the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:45   Kanye got you Jason to believe like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:48   well maybe he's gonna be kind of shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:50   like that's because he well I i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:52   believe that he was gonna be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:53   good i believe that at that point in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:54   film he was less of a threat to me then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:58   Admiral Marcus was like and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:00   delighted by that way said Khan is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:02   the biggest threat in the movie right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:04   now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:04   well I mean he really wasn't like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06   good like he belongs to you he's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:08   immediate his superior intellect is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:10   display is he is able to play them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:12   you know a musical instrument to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:14   essentially what he wants until his IQ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:17   suddenly drops in the last thing but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:18   know right that but they're there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:20   their interests are aligned and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:22   interesting that in a in a world of if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:25   it's just a black-and-white kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:26   moral world he's the bad guy and so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:29   the bad guy but in this moment he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31   he his interests and Kirk's interests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:34   are aligned which is they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:35   problem of this other ship and they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:37   to do something about it and that i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:40   that's what tickled me is that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42   it wasn't he was he's a bad guy and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:44   gonna do very bad things but at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:46   moment we actually need him and he needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48   us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:49   that's a traditional sort of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:50   it's a trope in some ways right like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52   know Superman needs lex luthor's help do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:55   something or you know what I mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:57   is a real it's a thing that we see over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:58   and over in television and comic books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:00   and all that is there's a time when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:02   villain needs to team up with the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:04   guys in order to fight a larger threat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:06   well and I know it's a UH the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:08   screenwriter said it's the they feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:10   they like to have kind of a Hong Kong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:12   action movie where in that attacked you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:14   have the two guys who have been pitted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:15   against each other was suddenly there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:16   a larger threat that they have a give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:19   you a good American example LA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:20   confidential sure yet another another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:22   perfect example of these two guys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:24   are at odds for like an entire movie at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:25   the end realized and maybe we actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:27   have more in common than we think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:28   but yet and knowing that it's Captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:30   Kirk and con I think makes it that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:33   better right because it's like those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:35   guys are going to work together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:36   alright well I i like them and thus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:38   began an odd couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:40   haha that's right he's a mess and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:43   wants to take over the galaxy with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45   superior intellect didn't together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:49   don't that a bit okay and that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:52   mostly superfluous action scene where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:54   they're flying through space and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:55   spacesuits and everything that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:57   that's an example like that scene would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4797">TS</a>]

01:20:00   have been as pointless as the spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:02   scene but they did add one part that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04   actually related back to the story arc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06   and the characters which is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:07   certain point they make it they make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:09   wonder whether I Kirk has been abandoned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:12   bike on which would fit with Khan you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:14   know having tricked you into letting him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16   off the ship is now just going to go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:17   his own use maybe nobody comes back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:19   saves Kirk which makes you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:20   question whether he really is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:22   as some intent not that I'm saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:24   justifies the entire scene but at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:25   very least there was something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:27   happened there sub taxes that had to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:29   with like okay advancing the story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:31   you know going whatever mostly it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:33   like a fly through space and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:35   was kind of cool looking but it was cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:36   yeah yeah I I think that just it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:39   decided enough for me i did not mind at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:42   all I wouldn't have lost that seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:43   before the scene where they're flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:45   around on the Klingon homeworld great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:48   that was a less interesting to see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:49   the scene work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:50   Carol Marcus just taking off her clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:52   for no reason also Scotty gets to suck i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:54   have the airlock that rather that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:56   good and that's why he's a he waits to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:59   hit the button because he's gotta time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:00   it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:01   well that was nice so what are we left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:03   with we're left with uh the i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:07   based on the feedback I've gotten over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:09   the last few weeks of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:11   controversial thing for some people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:12   the movie which is this movie decides to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:15   spend you know III a bunch of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:19   have said to me well it's just kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:21   remake of traffic on which is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:22   isn't it's completely different plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:23   there is a 15-minute period where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:26   play the effects of the the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:30   wrath of khan and they and they reverse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:33   it and Kirk makes the decision to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:34   sacrifice himself to get the engine's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:36   going so that the ship doesn't crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:38   into the into the ocean and I i heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:43   people say well that's very unoriginal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:44   wear for me it's like well I for me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:47   an homage it's a reference its dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:49   but at the same time it's fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51   about how it plays out in the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53   direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:54   I thought it was funny the wrath of khan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:55   is one of my favorite movies of all time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   and when i watch this I didn't think all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   again is nothing sacred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01   they should they shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:02   brought over that ground instead I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:04   watched and I was like oh this is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:05   great they are they are taking the wrath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:07   of khan and then they're doing they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:09   spinning it and they're changing it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:10   they're doing some different stuff with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:11   it in the context of this movie and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:13   only like 10 or 15 minutes where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:16   lines up and otherwise it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:18   different movie i'm curious what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:19   guys all thought of that it got me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:21   i think i got really wrapped up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:23   movie at this point i was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:24   interested i guess i was invested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:26   because I had a moment where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:28   you they Telegraph ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30   the engines there's the glass door right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:33   where the radiation sign on it and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:35   first thought was well put Spock's up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:37   the bridge they're never going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:38   him down here in time like that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:40   to be super convoluted if they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:41   get him down here so we can fix this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:43   died and then i had that like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:45   oh wait no they're gonna do the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:47   they're gonna have Kirko in which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:48   thought huh well that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:51   because they had done there was so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:53   speculation because they had that scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:55   that shot in the trailer right but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:58   but they didn't because it's miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:00   direction it's like that's what that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4980">TS</a>]

01:23:02   me that was working on mine said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:03   were in i would have preferred not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:05   have seen that part of the I was ok I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:07   was ok with it because it it it got me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:09   thinking of okay clearly there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:11   something in here that is a no Maj to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:13   star trek to but it didn't it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15   occurred to me that maybe because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:16   maybe I'm dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:17   maybe but he never never occurred to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:19   a million years that they would go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:20   the other direction and again you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:24   Jason points out that the the sacrifice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:26   the mirror and obviously this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:28   obvious you know a part of that and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:31   major part of that in this movie is Kirk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:33   literally sacrificing himself to save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:35   everybody and I was so wrapped up in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:39   in fact that i usually I'm pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:41   at catching plot points when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:43   foreshadow things like but i really had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45   a moment of huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:47   they're really gonna kill Kirk huh like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:49   well make the next movie really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:51   we'd maybe this is what had that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:54   but and I'm not a unitary JJ Abrams is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:57   also not a guy who tries away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5037">TS</a>]

01:23:59   killing Kim major characters but I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:02   just I had forgotten all about despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:05   the fact in retrospect I look back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:06   like there's that one scene that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:08   really really it's kind of awkwardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10   painful with the bones what you doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:12   with that with good cosplay triple yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:14   well why do you have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:16   had trouble on your desk I'm injecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:17   and bring it back to life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:19   that's that that's the moment I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:21   called back to the what it's wayne's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5061">TS</a>]

01:24:23   world where there's that line of like uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:25   he told us his entire itinerary it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:27   seemed extraneous at the time and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:30   this is that moment where the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:31   time i watched like he's literally in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:33   this totally taught scene with Khan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:37   right and then inequitable FTW let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:40   just look suppose this is what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:41   deal with the trouble is like what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5081">TS</a>]

01:24:44   is this is how we do science of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:46   enterprise I just reject random things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:48   instead triple its badly executed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:50   because it's it bugs me because it shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:54   a lack of credit being given to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:56   audience because we saw con take his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5096">TS</a>]

01:24:59   blood out tops on Mickey Smith from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:02   Doctor Who put it in his daughters thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:03   his daughter gets better we get it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:06   we don't need to see the triple thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:07   right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:08   it smacks of a studio note like mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:11   people really going to know that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:13   you know are it's really going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5113">TS</a>]

01:25:14   smart enough they want to fit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5114">TS</a>]

01:25:16   triples and it's like everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5116">TS</a>]

01:25:17   troubles we gotta put them in somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:19   but we saw McCoy inject the blood into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:20   the triple as like a test that we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:23   need the what are you doing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:24   triple well I that's that's what strikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:27   me as odd about it was that it felt so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:29   blatant it was too and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:31   something that was tacked on later right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:33   you know and so you could cut that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35   you know i mean there are numerous plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:37   holes then like as i was talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:39   occasional and comfortable panels Tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:41   sindelar about this the other day but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:43   he's like I mean you got like 70 other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:45   guys on board with blood like try to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:47   like borrow blood for them they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:49   frozen there yet but they take a guy out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:51   of the tube to procure can do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:52   on a farm and then and there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:54   microwave person i'm sure they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:56   have tried that if they didn't get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:58   con blood but they gotta cut get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5158">TS</a>]

01:26:00   what's available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:01   he's right and they also point out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5161">TS</a>]

01:26:02   they can't kill him it's like i'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:03   sure you can get blood out of him he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:05   dead phone strike all the bloody yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:08   that's true it's it's it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:11   turns out this car but makes a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:13   cockpit so I a couple of comments from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:17   some of our our star trek doubters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:19   the in the chat room which is which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:20   great which is a they're saying they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:23   didn't like Kirk sacrificing himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:25   because they felt it was empty and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:27   i would say that is correct things he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:29   said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:29   fighting himself we know if we're smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:31   that he's not but the point is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:33   character is making that decision it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:36   it is interesting to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:37   ramifications of that also my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:39   thought he was going to die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:41   my kids were very upset of that boo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:43   because they didn't realize what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:44   going to happen and in the end you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:47   I think that's in any franchise movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:51   with a strong protagonist I'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:53   kill him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:54   I mean I'm sorry they're never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:55   kill him so really you know the point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:58   that the character makes that decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5218">TS</a>]

01:26:59   not that the audience is thinking oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:02   god kevin Brooks and i right now because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:04   I mean I I wondered if they'd kill check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:06   off maybe but I doesn't like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:08   scaffolding fell on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:09   okay well and it's not i mean the issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:13   is Kirk doesn't go in thinking it's ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:15   if I die in there they can just inject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5235">TS</a>]

01:27:17   that one and I'll be fine i'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:19   resurrected you know you know speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:21   speaking of that sacrificing even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:24   I saw it coming and knew how they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:25   going to revive him the one thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:27   sold it to me was like well two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:31   what one if you're a super star trek fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:33   and it's annoying you I try to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:34   the mindset by thinking about how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:36   would've felt if like Luke told later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:38   that he was his father you know thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:40   you for reading was not so clever it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:42   role reversal aren't you getting guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:43   but that would be nonsensical just make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:45   some sense in the thing that sold it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:47   me is that after this play out exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:49   how I thought it would and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:51   slightly annoyed about seeing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:52   trailer spot yelling con at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:55   it for whatever reason ice that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:57   think that would happen and that sold it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5277">TS</a>]

01:27:59   for me because i would expect if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5279">TS</a>]

01:28:00   roles were reversed that surely Spock's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:03   reaction would be more subdued the Turks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:07   and instead they went the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:08   direction where I think it was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5288">TS</a>]

01:28:09   over-the-top then maybe it's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:11   framing and then the scoring and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:14   that fits with the new Spock who really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:16   was sold especially in the first movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:18   is just this tortured soul was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:20   trying to keep it together here who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:21   really does feel more deeply than humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:24   do and but can't control it like it four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:25   hundred percent of all can you can and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:27   once he yelled that out a sauce on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:29   chat room yelling about that saying how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31   is like Vader's know it's so far from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:33   that that that outburst fit with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:36   character and sold me that sequence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:38   I said okay now i buy it you can bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:40   it back now I like to think of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:42   he boosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:42   yeah he's very i know i know i like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:46   it gave me gave me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:47   goosebump I don't know it works for me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:49   agree with John he's a good Yeller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5329">TS</a>]

01:28:51   I thought it was a little bit silly well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:53   the original conscripts with that silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:54   but it's true everything we also risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:56   mythologizing the Old star trek and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:59   saying this new thing doesn't live up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:01   it when nothing that would necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:03   live up to the to the class i mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:05   these characters and these actors don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5345">TS</a>]

01:29:07   have the same history that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:11   original characters did right so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5351">TS</a>]

01:29:12   not going to have the same impact but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:15   that's fine i think it's clever and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5355">TS</a>]

01:29:16   a clever reworking of something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:19   familiar and it was fun to see and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:21   made sense in the context of the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:23   and people just need to chill out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:25   yeah comment down people yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:29   get a life that you missed that one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:32   slightly unnecessary action scene where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:33   they're jumping on top of like red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5373">TS</a>]

01:29:35   garbage trucks since in is floating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5375">TS</a>]

01:29:38   garbage trucks and sparkles chasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:39   conducts that's after I was that later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:42   with it like that I felt like we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:44   need you to jump from vehicles that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:47   don't understand other vehicles that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:48   don't understand point each other the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:49   scene could take place in a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:50   compressed yeah manner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:52   yeah was it was also the unnecessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:55   complex thing sort of like at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5395">TS</a>]

01:29:58   the first movie where where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5398">TS</a>]

01:30:00   jumping around on the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:01   platforms and stuff where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5401">TS</a>]

01:30:02   really is this in the future in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:04   Francisco is this how we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:05   deal with garbage or moving Freight I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5405">TS</a>]

01:30:07   was the all you needed was a soundstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:09   the paper mache rocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:10   yeah exactly exactly so there's a fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:13   and a hora beams down and they based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:17   uncon a bunch of times and he gives him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:19   the little pinch and and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5419">TS</a>]

01:30:21   actually a funny good moment I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:23   we're work on is trying to squeeze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:25   squeeze squeeze box head to the cops and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:28   spot gives him a little like a mind-meld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:30   thing like to transfer the pain he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:33   feeling and cons like how we know yikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:35   and that was huh wow I did not realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:38   never so much i will stop doing that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:40   be yeah you know that sorry that's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:42   I I apology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:43   well if if my head hurts when I squeeze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:45   your head then I'm not gonna do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5445">TS</a>]

01:30:47   because that's so then he tries to link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:49   breaks box and so no more this hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:51   business you don't have any hand in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:55   face and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5455">TS</a>]

01:30:55   exactly and that and and and so to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5455">TS</a>]

01:31:01   the the very end I'm also amused that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:04   they just put them all back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:06   freezer and I I actually kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:08   that because it's almost like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5468">TS</a>]

01:31:09   the same obviously but it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:12   the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:14   it's like we're going to file them away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5474">TS</a>]

01:31:15   and I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:17   first off I'm sure he'll never be woken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:20   up again no and also i'm sure nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:24   will say hey where did the guy who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:26   the blood that brings people back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:27   life wit it's a shame that he died right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:30   he died right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:31   he didn't die what did we find him under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:33   three sea bass magic blood is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:35   have is under am blood come up magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:38   they don't really need the bloody where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:40   the right be synthesized like McCoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:42   synthesize some kind of resurrection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:44   serum may dramatically everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:46   Starfleet is a mortal man universe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:48   immortal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:49   I also said they will forget completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5509">TS</a>]

01:31:50   about his blood caring people and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:53   will not be a plot point future movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5513">TS</a>]

01:31:55   where he's revived until Star Trek the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5515">TS</a>]

01:31:56   return of Khan wear then that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:58   the reason he's revived right well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5518">TS</a>]

01:32:00   mean maybe but they'll have a scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:02   where they're they're having a battle on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5522">TS</a>]

01:32:03   a spaceship where gravity is suspended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:05   in those drops that will be floating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:07   I through so any other any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:13   thoughts about into darkness sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:14   everybody liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5534">TS</a>]

01:32:16   I of course I didn't invite the people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5536">TS</a>]

01:32:17   know who didn't like it so good today I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:20   mean generally I mean it gets got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5540">TS</a>]

01:32:22   John syracuse the seal of approval folks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:23   you can't argue with that ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5543">TS</a>]

01:32:25   sequence where like I felt that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5545">TS</a>]

01:32:26   going a little bit too long we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:27   now the ship is falling and now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:29   thing is gonna crash in san francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:30   had a little bit of multiple endings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5550">TS</a>]

01:32:32   disease but my great gauging enough and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5552">TS</a>]

01:32:34   especially once these are fighting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5554">TS</a>]

01:32:35   the garbage trucks whatever they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:36   that that could have been tightened up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:38   little bit and realize i feel like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:39   was just so much in this movie that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:42   you know I give them thumbs up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:44   trying to wedge the movie scenes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:45   beginning but I would have liked them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5565">TS</a>]

01:32:47   tighten up the end a little bit as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:48   but don't forget the other modules that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5568">TS</a>]

01:32:50   we saw floating around including Carol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:52   Marcus like it's good to have family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5572">TS</a>]

01:32:53   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:54   nudge nudge at the very end and also I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5574">TS</a>]

01:32:58   like to the reference to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5578">TS</a>]

01:33:00   references to nurse Chapel we believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:03   was major Barrett's character in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:04   original correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:06   hey it's matt and section 31 inches deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:09   space nine reference and Harry Mudd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:11   right buddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:13   Yeah Yeah right mud the mud incident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5593">TS</a>]

01:33:16   right so that makes also the scene at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5596">TS</a>]

01:33:19   the very end where they get recruited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:22   for the Avengers I thought haha of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5602">TS</a>]

01:33:25   people lies that the end of every movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:27   after the credits samuel jackson shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:29   up as nick fury and invite them to join [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:31   the offenders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:32   you know that the chat room seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:34   demand that we talked about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:35   situation sauce skype session [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:37   yes oh and one of one of the complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:39   that I heard after the first movie was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:41   isn't cold spot going to sit down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:44   write like okay here's who you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:45   worry about and and so we get that scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5625">TS</a>]

01:33:48   in here where he says no no I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:50   gonna tell you you need to have your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5630">TS</a>]

01:33:52   destiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:53   however battalion said just this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5633">TS</a>]

01:33:56   time just this one here's what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5636">TS</a>]

01:33:58   incidentally is the only time I appear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5638">TS</a>]

01:34:00   in this movie but I'm just saying just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5640">TS</a>]

01:34:01   this one I would love to have seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5641">TS</a>]

01:34:03   blooper reel where it's like now I won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:05   tell you anything about your destiny but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5645">TS</a>]

01:34:07   there's this guy khan and then like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:09   be left to see some box wearing up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:12   something like son of up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:14   yeah and and before I go wales just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5654">TS</a>]

01:34:17   catch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5657">TS</a>]

01:34:19   make sure you have to keep a few on hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:20   they're surprisingly handy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5660">TS</a>]

01:34:22   you guys should really take care of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:24   way home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5664">TS</a>]

01:34:26   yeah is there a planet somewhere that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5666">TS</a>]

01:34:27   has Wales because you should bring them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5667">TS</a>]

01:34:29   back if a guy shows up and tell you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:31   he's God and wants your ships a no-no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5671">TS</a>]

01:34:34   does not need to start also that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:37   Sidewalk guy not my brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5677">TS</a>]

01:34:39   so it's a bummer for you don't let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:42   feel your pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:42   yeah I I thought it was I thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:44   fine i I didn't think we need to see old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:45   spark again but at that point in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5685">TS</a>]

01:34:47   movie when everything is very tense it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:48   actually kind of funny I didn't mind it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5688">TS</a>]

01:34:51   it's nice to see Leonard Nimoy again I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5691">TS</a>]

01:34:53   think I see a chair of to spark dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5693">TS</a>]

01:34:56   is actually pretty amusing but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5696">TS</a>]

01:34:58   think it was necessary but I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5698">TS</a>]

01:34:59   that was one of those cases where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5699">TS</a>]

01:35:01   who wanna ask what about the old Sparky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:04   knows everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:05   this was an example of them trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5705">TS</a>]

01:35:07   address one of those points i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5707">TS</a>]

01:35:09   idea that he's having a conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:10   with himself on a bridge in plain view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5710">TS</a>]

01:35:12   of like 20 crew members who all have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5712">TS</a>]

01:35:14   got to be going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:15   what the hell is going on there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5715">TS</a>]

01:35:18   sparks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:19   that come what what what also i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:21   love that Leonard Nimoy retire has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5721">TS</a>]

01:35:23   retired about 74 talking to my keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5723">TS</a>]

01:35:27   coming back they said he said read those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:29   lines for his bathroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5729">TS</a>]

01:35:30   nobody retires like like that anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5730">TS</a>]

01:35:32   yeah that was just skype call to New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5732">TS</a>]

01:35:35   Vulcan he's always inspect Leonard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:37   Nimoy's always bring Spock makeup just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5737">TS</a>]

01:35:39   no matter where you travel when Chris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5739">TS</a>]

01:35:41   Pine was talking when Curtis talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5741">TS</a>]

01:35:43   about are now i guess it was spot was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5743">TS</a>]

01:35:45   talking about i'll get the development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5745">TS</a>]

01:35:47   home or the new new Vulcan or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5747">TS</a>]

01:35:48   that is on the line or whatever I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:50   hoping that they were going to rope in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5750">TS</a>]

01:35:53   the remainder of the Vulcans into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:55   main plot line of the story and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5755">TS</a>]

01:35:56   disappointed when I said I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5756">TS</a>]

01:35:58   calling themselves calling spot this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5758">TS</a>]

01:35:59   Bob himself once it was him and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:02   like I if if that was always going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:04   there i would just be perfectly happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:06   have that scene and that i am then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5766">TS</a>]

01:36:09   Spock's idea of contacting the Balkans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5769">TS</a>]

01:36:10   completely cut out of the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:11   yeah yeah it was not necessary it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5771">TS</a>]

01:36:14   nice and all but it wasn't necessary but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5774">TS</a>]

01:36:16   you're right i think the ending was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5776">TS</a>]

01:36:17   was the sloppiest part did anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5777">TS</a>]

01:36:22   want to give you render their final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5782">TS</a>]

01:36:24   judgment I i liked it i mean it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:28   two movies in a row where I've walked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:30   out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:30   bouncing and ready to see the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:32   episode next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5792">TS</a>]

01:36:33   yeah which I never would have thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5793">TS</a>]

01:36:35   before the first one and you know i i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5795">TS</a>]

01:36:40   i'm also i'm very critical when I go see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5800">TS</a>]

01:36:42   stuff because I'll think we'll see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5802">TS</a>]

01:36:44   would i have written it and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5804">TS</a>]

01:36:47   sort of beard to me that these have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:50   immune to my critic critical nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5810">TS</a>]

01:36:54   especially this one because again you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5814">TS</a>]

01:36:58   know we went as the whole family and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5818">TS</a>]

01:36:59   sitting there with the kids and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5819">TS</a>]

01:37:02   my favorite memories of last summer was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:04   showing the kids wrath of khan for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5824">TS</a>]

01:37:07   first time and they had no warning of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5827">TS</a>]

01:37:10   they had no idea about Spock's death or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:13   anything and you know we're watching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5833">TS</a>]

01:37:16   movie they're enjoying it in the living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5836">TS</a>]

01:37:17   room is dark and at the end of the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:19   I look over and my eleven-year-old is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5839">TS</a>]

01:37:22   just completely in tears and I went oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5842">TS</a>]

01:37:27   my god that's what it was like 30 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5847">TS</a>]

01:37:28   ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5848">TS</a>]

01:37:29   and so watching this one is the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5849">TS</a>]

01:37:31   kind of things like I wonder what where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5851">TS</a>]

01:37:34   he's going to react and they start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:35   getting into the you know Kirk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5855">TS</a>]

01:37:38   sacrificing himself and the glass and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5858">TS</a>]

01:37:42   we are friends and all that and I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:45   over and he's he's sitting there he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:47   wow that's like wrath of khan ya think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5867">TS</a>]

01:37:52   well already okay my kids my kids I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5872">TS</a>]

01:37:55   showed him around the con and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5875">TS</a>]

01:37:56   remember it they're like well I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5876">TS</a>]

01:37:58   we're gonna watch it again you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:00   was like Rafa comment like that which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5880">TS</a>]

01:38:01   one is that are not the one with whales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5881">TS</a>]

01:38:04   it's one with God if we did we'd watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5884">TS</a>]

01:38:06   the one with the whales but Scott your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5886">TS</a>]

01:38:08   verdict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5888">TS</a>]

01:38:08   i speaking as a tried-and-true Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5888">TS</a>]

01:38:12   fan i was satisfied with it I I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:15   I've read a lot of people listing link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:18   these things like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5898">TS</a>]

01:38:20   coldfusion wouldn't freeze a volt yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:23   you know I'm like well warp doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5903">TS</a>]

01:38:26   and you have transporters so you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5906">TS</a>]

01:38:30   cut it a little it is a fictional movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5910">TS</a>]

01:38:32   it's a lot of fun like i said i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5912">TS</a>]

01:38:35   the I think that they captured the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5915">TS</a>]

01:38:37   relationship which is what the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5917">TS</a>]

01:38:38   series is really about the relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:40   between Kirk and Spock and McCoy they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5920">TS</a>]

01:38:44   got that right and i think that as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5924">TS</a>]

01:38:46   as you get that right you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5926">TS</a>]

01:38:48   hang a lot of stuff off of that forgives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5928">TS</a>]

01:38:50   a lot of other faults exactly and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:52   especially this movie got the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5932">TS</a>]

01:38:53   villain so submitted Cumberbatch's are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5933">TS</a>]

01:38:55   really good a very different but a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5935">TS</a>]

01:38:58   good con and I saw this movie with my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5938">TS</a>]

01:39:01   wife and I said to her well who was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5941">TS</a>]

01:39:04   better con ricardo montalban or a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5944">TS</a>]

01:39:07   corrupt and she said well better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5947">TS</a>]

01:39:09   Cumberbatch was certainly the scarier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:12   con other more like chillingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:15   frightening con but a ricardo montalban [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5955">TS</a>]

01:39:19   was angrier and I said yeah that's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:22   right he had a lot of reasons to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5962">TS</a>]

01:39:23   angry he did just get shot onto a random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5963">TS</a>]

01:39:26   planet by Captain Kirk's right i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5966">TS</a>]

01:39:28   waiting at the end of this movie for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:30   their be like they're not going to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5970">TS</a>]

01:39:31   out being programmed exact probably warn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:35   them against that part of it but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5975">TS</a>]

01:39:37   people remember montalban from starter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5977">TS</a>]

01:39:39   to but you know in space seed he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5979">TS</a>]

01:39:42   you know he was much younger just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5982">TS</a>]

01:39:44   everybody was and this is this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5984">TS</a>]

01:39:46   original thought out con here not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:50   you know 20 years on the desert planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5990">TS</a>]

01:39:52   my wife got eaten by a seti land bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5992">TS</a>]

01:39:55   crazy with revenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5995">TS</a>]

01:39:56   yeah coming moby-dick over and over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5996">TS</a>]

01:39:58   over him until we packed a kindle but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/5998">TS</a>]

01:40:03   overall I really enjoyed it and I i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:06   happy i did not i wasn't anchored by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6006">TS</a>]

01:40:08   anything that happened did it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:11   thought I thought it was a great star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6011">TS</a>]

01:40:12   trek movie and I will I saw it twice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6012">TS</a>]

01:40:16   I'll see it again I'll buy the blu-ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6016">TS</a>]

01:40:19   yep i want star trek back on TV but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6019">TS</a>]

01:40:22   absolutely i think that will happen I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6022">TS</a>]

01:40:24   think it's inevitable that that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6024">TS</a>]

01:40:26   happen but they may have to make another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6026">TS</a>]

01:40:28   one of these movies first and then segue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:32   into a spin-off series or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6032">TS</a>]

01:40:34   as I said to you on twitter jason i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6034">TS</a>]

01:40:36   think it is clear that wrath of khan is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6036">TS</a>]

01:40:39   a better movie but this movie is fun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6039">TS</a>]

01:40:42   enjoyable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6042">TS</a>]

01:40:43   yes I don't know i just watched wrath of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6043">TS</a>]

01:40:46   khan and maybe it's because it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6046">TS</a>]

01:40:47   date that well I rely i agree the wrath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6047">TS</a>]

01:40:49   of khan is the best of the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6049">TS</a>]

01:40:51   classic Star Trek movies i think i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6051">TS</a>]

01:40:53   to see this one again because I did only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6053">TS</a>]

01:40:54   see one time and it's 10 and with my son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6054">TS</a>]

01:40:56   so that may be clouding my judgment but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6056">TS</a>]

01:40:57   aight i don't i would put this right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6057">TS</a>]

01:41:01   against the wrath of khan in in if both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6061">TS</a>]

01:41:03   both of them viewed in modern times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6063">TS</a>]

01:41:05   reading and maybe i'll have to see into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6065">TS</a>]

01:41:07   darkness one more time to see we'll do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6067">TS</a>]

01:41:09   whole episode about the original Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6069">TS</a>]

01:41:11   Trek movies i would say that my four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6071">TS</a>]

01:41:13   favorite Star Trek movies are these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6073">TS</a>]

01:41:15   and stir to and and first contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6075">TS</a>]

01:41:19   actually I i would say they're my four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6079">TS</a>]

01:41:22   favorites could go with if you had four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6082">TS</a>]

01:41:24   and six in there then you've listed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:25   every good star chick that's true voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6085">TS</a>]

01:41:30   always complaining about my six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6090">TS</a>]

01:41:32   favorites that that when Kirk dies they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6092">TS</a>]

01:41:33   don't take a whole movie to bring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:35   back it's like yes they learned you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6095">TS</a>]

01:41:38   they learn about 20 spot that the search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6098">TS</a>]

01:41:41   for Kirk it's the rocks across doubt it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:44   will just stuff like that you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6104">TS</a>]

01:41:46   think you should be able to space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6106">TS</a>]

01:41:48   see what happened and see what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6108">TS</a>]

01:41:49   shoot him at they could have shot him at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:51   kronos ahead and see what happens right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6111">TS</a>]

01:41:55   the the Klingons would have resurrected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6115">TS</a>]

01:41:56   that's where you hide your people isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6116">TS</a>]

01:41:58   torpedoes that's how it works exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6118">TS</a>]

01:42:01   alright so this has been good a guy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6121">TS</a>]

01:42:05   encourage the second viewing I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6125">TS</a>]

01:42:06   second viewing would be good my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6126">TS</a>]

01:42:07   like 2i I liked it better i saw in 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:09   the second time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6129">TS</a>]

01:42:10   who did you see it in imax night I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6130">TS</a>]

01:42:12   the regular 3d I don't really around me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6132">TS</a>]

01:42:14   already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6134">TS</a>]

01:42:14   I thought it was shot in 2d I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6134">TS</a>]

01:42:16   maybe just stay in 2d and I want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6136">TS</a>]

01:42:18   need the imax 3d happened twenty dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6138">TS</a>]

01:42:21   tickets to see it in imax 3d was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:23   spectacular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6143">TS</a>]

01:42:25   ah it was enjoyable I I then saw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:28   again for seven dollars and I had just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:30   as much yeah there you go that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:33   they get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6153">TS</a>]

01:42:34   alright i go i'm going to call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6154">TS</a>]

01:42:37   this has been great I'd like to thank my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6157">TS</a>]

01:42:39   guests as i always do as is my custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:40   Dan Morgan thank you for being here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6160">TS</a>]

01:42:43   my pleasure captain live long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6163">TS</a>]

01:42:45   prosper damn the force be with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6165">TS</a>]

01:42:48   David lower thanks for coming back on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6168">TS</a>]

01:42:51   was great to have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6171">TS</a>]

01:42:52   great to be here and and I should leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6172">TS</a>]

01:42:54   you as you lift me is that a threat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6174">TS</a>]

01:42:58   John siracusa thank you you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6178">TS</a>]

01:43:01   forgot to mention the best william [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6181">TS</a>]

01:43:03   shatner on ma Jin this entire movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6183">TS</a>]

01:43:05   which is the title which is without its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6185">TS</a>]

01:43:07   colon star trek into darkness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6187">TS</a>]

01:43:10   you don't know where to put the emphasis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6190">TS</a>]

01:43:12   you can do it anyway I thought you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6192">TS</a>]

01:43:14   see the best are William Shatner imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6194">TS</a>]

01:43:15   this movie was the TJ hooker seen i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6195">TS</a>]

01:43:18   speaking up when spot rolls over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6198">TS</a>]

01:43:20   hood of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6200">TS</a>]

01:43:21   hey yeah i was thinking about canvas the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6201">TS</a>]

01:43:25   scene where he fights all the spiders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6205">TS</a>]

01:43:27   there is a william shatner reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6207">TS</a>]

01:43:29   that you have two more living room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6209">TS</a>]

01:43:31   fair enough and Scott mcnulty it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6211">TS</a>]

01:43:33   and me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6213">TS</a>]

01:43:34   thank you for being on another star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6214">TS</a>]

01:43:36   episode I don't know how it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6216">TS</a>]

01:43:37   we've been on this podcast and we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6217">TS</a>]

01:43:38   like a billion episodes about Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6218">TS</a>]

01:43:40   and like three about Star Trek how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6220">TS</a>]

01:43:43   that possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6223">TS</a>]

01:43:44   John meritocracy what that's outrageous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6224">TS</a>]

01:43:48   I i I've also deeply offended that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6228">TS</a>]

01:43:51   movie was described as a star wars my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:53   will save it for our Star Wars versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6233">TS</a>]

01:43:56   Star Trek Ozzy in which we determine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6236">TS</a>]

01:43:58   whether the enterprise or start a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6238">TS</a>]

01:44:00   would win in a fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6240">TS</a>]

01:44:01   wait well they also did say it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6241">TS</a>]

01:44:03   best Star Wars movie of the last 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6243">TS</a>]

01:44:05   years so that's not it's not alright hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6245">TS</a>]

01:44:08   no but the good news is star trek to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6248">TS</a>]

01:44:12   rescue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6252">TS</a>]

01:44:13   JJ Abrams will be warping through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6253">TS</a>]

01:44:17   hyperspace to save the star wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6257">TS</a>]

01:44:20   franchise that's right episode 7 set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6260">TS</a>]

01:44:23   your lightsabres to study these movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6263">TS</a>]

01:44:25   just a warm-up Jason yes now that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6265">TS</a>]

01:44:27   saved start track maybe he can save Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6267">TS</a>]

01:44:29   Wars with some of that Star Trek magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6269">TS</a>]

01:44:31   and swear all right until our next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6271">TS</a>]

01:44:34   episode which will probably be about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:35   star wars because aren't they all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6275">TS</a>]

01:44:37   point for the uncomfortable in my fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6277">TS</a>]

01:44:40   fine panelist this is jason still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6280">TS</a>]

01:44:42   signing off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6282">TS</a>]

01:44:43   may the force be with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6283">TS</a>]

01:44:59   instructor to we there they faked the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6299">TS</a>]

01:45:01   death of Spock and the rest of the crew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6301">TS</a>]

01:45:03   in the Kobayashi Magoo meroo at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6303">TS</a>]

01:45:05   beginning construction i would choose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6305">TS</a>]

01:45:07   get it was good to see you can't win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6307">TS</a>]

01:45:10   because you can't see anything can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6310">TS</a>]

01:45:12   you like in the theater when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6312">TS</a>]

01:45:13   taking notes that was the Kobayashi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6313">TS</a>]

01:45:14   Magoo i'll tell ya see what I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6314">TS</a>]

01:45:17   have done is like very cleverly replay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6317">TS</a>]

01:45:19   parts of our starter to the wrath of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6319">TS</a>]

01:45:21   khan episode but with Scott and I taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6321">TS</a>]

01:45:23   the opposite roles but I didn't do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6323">TS</a>]

01:45:28   still can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6328">TS</a>]

01:45:29   haha hello this is set to alpha 5 there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6329">TS</a>]

01:45:37   we were told him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:39   excellent is this city on fire I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6339">TS</a>]

01:45:42   want i want i just watched Star Trek for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6342">TS</a>]

01:45:43   the voyage home with my kids computer a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6343">TS</a>]

01:45:47   little computer actually my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6347">TS</a>]

01:45:49   line in that movie is doctor gave me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6349">TS</a>]

01:45:51   pill the groovy a new kidney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6351">TS</a>]

01:45:53   I love that that's so great field baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6353">TS</a>]

01:45:56   wails yeah hang on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6356">TS</a>]

01:45:59   birds are pretty sure remember where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6359">TS</a>]

01:46:01   part exactly i'm in Indiana just working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6361">TS</a>]

01:46:05   space is Iowa come on guys but he's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6365">TS</a>]

01:46:09   indiana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6369">TS</a>]

01:46:09   I'm an Indian it's all out how it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6369">TS</a>]

01:46:12   this heaven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6372">TS</a>]

01:46:13   alright i'm glad Jon Jon allows it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6373">TS</a>]

01:46:14   that's good spot gives the Vulcan death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:17   grip that guy in the bus every collapse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6377">TS</a>]

01:46:19   there's no such thing as we fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6379">TS</a>]

01:46:20   death grip and justjust leave now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6380">TS</a>]

01:46:22   embarrassing yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:24   search your feelings you know it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6384">TS</a>]

01:46:26   true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6386">TS</a>]

01:46:27   what no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6387">TS</a>]

01:46:29   that's not true that's impossible you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6389">TS</a>]

01:46:34   know you guys have done the city al5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6394">TS</a>]

01:46:35   reading so much that when i went back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6395">TS</a>]

01:46:37   and watch wrath of khan again the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6397">TS</a>]

01:46:40   reading in the movie is now less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6400">TS</a>]

01:46:42   exciting format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6402">TS</a>]

01:46:43   you're very like it's just under well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6403">TS</a>]

01:46:45   it's been exciting like oh he just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6405">TS</a>]

01:46:47   of says the lines a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6407">TS</a>]

01:46:48   emphasis is nothing like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6408">TS</a>]

01:46:50   over-the-top this is City alpha hive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaw4dfU/6410">TS</a>]