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the Intolerable number 156 Marcus 2013
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welcome back to be uncomfortable podcast
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I'm your host Jason smell and in this
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episode we're going to be doing
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something a little bit different from
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what we usually cover which is you know
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geeky movies and TV shows and books and
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comics and stuff like that
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this is going to be an experiment i like
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to call the old movie club we have more
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frequent Movie Club i was watching an
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old movie and thinking to myself I am
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completely illiterate when it comes to
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movies made before the eighties probably
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with very few exceptions and those
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exceptions of the boring exceptions it's
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2001 or it's gone with the wind or the
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wizard of oz or casablanca the ones that
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everybody already knows so I i have
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enlisted an expert who is a 90 year old
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man no heart at heart i have the heart
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of a 90 year old man and I'm not giving
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it back no matter how much you scream
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like this he had so are our mentor in
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this journey into into old movies is the
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voice you just heard which is his first
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appearance outside of the radio drama
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that is on this podcast it is Philip
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Michaels hello you have a podcast it
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turns i I've kept some panelists for
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certain reasons I've kept it from you
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but I'm glad you could see was asking
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earlier why you haven't been on before
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and I said it's because he's not
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interested in any of the things we
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talked about so consumed with hatred
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here we are I thought contain multitudes
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and joining me on this adventure of
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watching a couple of old movies that
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Phil assigned to us are my guest tonight
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David lure hello hi this is the
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Marmaduke episode right it maybe if we
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wait around long enough it could that
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could happen pool or the magnet is
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episode also possible who even better
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Steve let's is also here hello Steve
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good evening Jason I to know nothing of
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old films all right in the two that i
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have watched now that's right we're like
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babes in the wood
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it's that's not entirely true i've seen
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a lot of bad fifties films the mystery
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science but Riley avoided the good stuff
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like that things are actually good
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yep and Dan Morgan is also here because
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he's contractually obligated to be on
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every podcast hi Dan you know I'm
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actually a bit of a ringer which was I'd
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already seen both of these mom what
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sipho I didn't realize it was it was a
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necessity we hadn't seen my ID team in
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love both these movies but i actually
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don't ya get lex friedman on the line
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immediately he he still hasn't seen the
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moment when the amateurs basically clam
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up and you're like I don't know
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forgiveness is pretty funny then you can
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jump in with your your season 2
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knowledge I don't take anything away
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from filled with master if he's the
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master i'm only a journeyman in this
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regard parents had one Alec Guinness is
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kind of funny was my top talking point
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so now you haha alright everyone Kenobi
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circle joke but where you gonna sell to
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help tell it that exact same way our
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viewers yes
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yeah sorry I've ruined my god goodnight
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everybody
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so so fill the premise here I i asked
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you to come up with some ideas for old
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movies we can watch and you came up with
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a few different sort of themed choices
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of two or three movies that fit the
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theme and what right we tried to pick
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some that were readily available so one
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of these movies is available on netflix
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and one of them is available at least
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for rental on itunes so there are
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available for rental on itunes but as I
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invented both this week to to review
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them so that i wouldn't say ridiculous
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things so I'm unlike him in RM a club
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episode where John syracuse it shows
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movies that are essentially unavailable
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unless you sell a kidney in Japan was
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surprisingly easy to do what you have to
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get a ticket to Japan and you have to
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have a spare kidney but otherwise yes
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exactly so so these are available and
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what the ones we settled on that was a
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was heists right that was the paper
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movies a series I'm kind of caper movies
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a choice
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yeah the most the most delicious of all
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condiments the king
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me better than the ketchup movie so so
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we we picked movies to watch old from
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the 1950s from the nineteen fifties
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which was which was not knock by design
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actually but it worked out well yeah so
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we get we got a movie from 1951 and
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moving from 1956 and I thought maybe
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Phil could start by explaining why he
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chose these two movies so the first one
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is a comedy a british comedy awards
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right it's up the Lavender Hill mob
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helmet um the reason I i chose this one
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is is Alec Guinness is kind of funny
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kind of it is kind of funny
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it's um from a movie studio in England
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that the the ealing studios and they
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they made a name for themselves a among
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film buffs for for producing comedies of
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the sort that are sort of like looks at
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the British character and and society
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and and that sort of thing and many of
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them in fact star Alec Guinness he was a
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bit of a comedy genius and this is I
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think that the my favorite healing
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studio movie on I i first stumbled
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across it the director of it directed a
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fish called wanda actually in nineteen
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nineteen eighties and that is one of my
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favorite movie comedies of all times so
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i did not know that means deep back into
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the the archives of of stuff that people
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do i noticed that he did a comedy with
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Ben Kenobi and I thought oh I should
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look up that know and there we go it's a
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shit should we talk about the second
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movie first or do we want to launch into
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the lavender a little bit let's let's
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recap so the second movie that we that
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we watched is from 1956 it's called The
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Killing it's not to be confused with
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that TV show where they promised that
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you'd have a resolution after the first
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season and then they turned out that was
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a horrible lie
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yes now things actually happened in this
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the killing it yes and it's direct it's
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directed by somebody you may know as
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little director i like to call what's
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the director of our eyes wide shut
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and uh and let's get and berries indian
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school he's not a or you could say yeah
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like 2001 a Space Odyssey almost made it
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big or the or the shinning the kids are
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alright it's because the sequel to The
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Killing it's Stanley
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rubric yeah and young stanley kubrick's
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look like muppet babies and it stars
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probably if you're not a fan of old
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movies it stars nobody you've heard of
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the lead actors fella called sterling
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Hayden and he he had a nice little run
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in the nineteen fifties probably most
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well known as the corrupt police captain
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in the godfather
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Oh Michael Corleone shoots how's the
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italian food in this joint back huh
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that's him you have the square John i
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frisked a million young punks
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yeah he's he's like um he's like mr.
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nondescript waspy guy right and he's
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like hey guys a tough guy
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I gotta let him his big his big role 18
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in the the in the nineteen fifties if
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you needed a movie tough guy you called
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sterling Hayden I'm uh I'm looking up on
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IMDb who else they have in this role
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they were trying to get for the role
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because it's basically can we get this
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movie tough guy no alchy sterling Hayden
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them and he and he's nice and Elijah
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cook jr. is also in the movie out of it
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yes you may remember not at all from a
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little bit ly i like to call the maltese
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falcon or you may remember from a TV
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show called magnum p.i where he played
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ice pick that's right or feel like
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texting him at about 6,000 that you you
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have yeah he does a lot of things like
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the exact same character every single
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he's got a distinctive face
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yeah ya know he basically he is the role
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he perfected was I am a sad sack and i
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am a second bad things happen to me and
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i get i get roughed up in and usually
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kill he was the steve buscemi I think of
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this era of three bogeys like crap out
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of the multi spoken so the value your
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you don't know because you're not a
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gigantic nerd like me but the where I
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know I shook from is he played and i
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have to say it this way because you're
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exactly right he played sad-sack defense
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attorney Samuel T Cogley in Star Trek he
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defends Captain Kirk and his
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court-martial and in the episode court
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marketing episode called court-martial
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he plays the court-martial they come up
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with that title star trap yeah well it's
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a it's an old show
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sounds like a combination of science and
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fiction
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yes and it might be aimed at kids it's
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no no magnum p.i just put it that way
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far fewer episodes were never fly of
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Star Trek then of magnum p.i all you
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need to know about Elijah cook jr. is
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that in the maltese falcon he plays the
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young gunman who gets roughed up by
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humphrey bogart and that is the that is
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the manliest t is ever a camera yeah
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that is that that is the high point of
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Elijah cook as a movie tough does he
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like pulled out his jacket and like yeah
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instructions and guns away from him and
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says they have Sydney Greenstreet a
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crippled news he took these away from
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him i made up moving back and that is an
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election cooks this is my moment of
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manliness is in shame he was gunned down
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like a dog
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so where should we start should we talk
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Lavender Hill mob first since it was
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chronologically yeah let's do that first
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let's do that
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it's the it's the lighter movie a little
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bit a few laughs in that one little
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little bit i got a lot of laughs out of
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the second one will get theirs it
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these two movies have the same ending
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though which i think is interesting
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yeah i'll get to this true automatically
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yeah yeah so the Lavender Hill mob Phil
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you know this movie better meet you want
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to explain what happens to what the
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lavender pill mob is about here i will i
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will give the the the 99 cent tour of
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the plot it is Alec Guinness is a bank
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clerk in in London and his job is to
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accompany the gold bullion on its way
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from where it's melted to the bank and
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where Delta and he uh he's sort of this
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perceived as this worthy guy but he has
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big dreams and and and he's actually
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plotted out a way to rob all the gold
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bullion but all he needs is a is a
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partner and the partner arrives in the
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form of Stanley Holloway who moves into
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his boardinghouse in Lavender Hill which
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remember him from such movies as my fair
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lady where he plays Alfred P Doolittle
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common common dustman he in this movie a
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totally different character bit of an
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artist and he knows how to melt things
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down hey that's that's handy if you want
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to get gold
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we ran out of the out of the country and
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to make ends meet he works at a factory
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where they manufacture cheap Eiffel
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Tower uh souvenirs and so made of lead
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made of LED and Alec Guinness and
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Stanley Holloway uh hatch on this plot
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that what they're going to do is they'll
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rob the rob the the delivery truck
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meltdown the gold bars and turn them
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into Eiffel Towers that the that will
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then be shipped out of the country with
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no one suspecting that they're really
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made of of gold and they'll be retrieved
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in France and the rest of the movie is
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them on recruiting a couple other
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hapless gangsters to join their mama arm
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in one of my I have a couple favorite
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scenes in the movie in the movie where
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they they basically set up a trap to
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trap to to trap crooks 22 and it's it's
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very funny because a couple of different
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quickshop to rob the place that the plot
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goes hilariously arrived they they make
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away with the gold but complications
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I think that's fair to say mhm and I I
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don't want to give away any of the rest
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of plaque is there are a few you know
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surprises in a few pleasing moments of
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discovery including the the final shot
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of the movie which we which we won't
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talk about that we won't have to be
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stupid to be fair it is a 62 year old
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movie we could probably still thinks
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when there's a reasonably 16k shall we
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talk about the ending of the movie yeah
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let's let's let's fire off the old-time
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spoiler or now
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this is dwight david eisenhower a
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spoiler is coming
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Thank You mr. president yes no problem
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i'm going back to planning the d-day
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invasion
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I'm not president yet i'm only a general
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all right Thank You general
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you're welcome I like your political
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prospects in the future but now I i
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might go become president of Columbia
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ok that's the University not the picture
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studio or the country
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yeah that's just ridiculous already how
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so the movie begins with a framing
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device where it's alec guinness living
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living a life of luxury in I guess
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Brazil and he's spending money like he's
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gotta spend it all right then or never
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again he is right given money and and
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everybody loves them and they're like
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hey you're so great and we and we should
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point out that this is not he is not
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swap he is not he is he is he is wormy
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little Alec Guinness is a gigantic nerd
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City just yes it's it like if bill gates
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where we're casting this movie it would
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be a perfect perfect gotta study
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he has a real burgess Meredith thing
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going for him hear it yeah I have
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expected to break his glasses at some
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point be horribly lost and audrey
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hepburn stops by it was Audrey Hepburn's
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planted her first movie role of getting
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to say if Audrey Hepburn walks by in you
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know I have a pile of money i think i
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probably given as she keep the Shekinah
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here's some cash
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the story there apparently is that she
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was she was going to have a bigger role
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in the movie and she couldn't do it
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because she had to be in a play but Alec
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Guinness was so taken with her that he
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insisted that she she like get a smaller
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part yeah this is well but this is what
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two years before Roman holiday which was
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her sort of breakout role
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yeah yeah so and then Alec Guinness
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turns and tells his story to the guy
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said seed seated next to him at the at
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the table and in this brazilian club and
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thus the story unfolds and then when at
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the end it's revealed that oh he had
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come to arrest Alec Guinness because
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they're handcuffed together and it's
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it's just a very it's a fun little uh a
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way to wrap up the picture and suddenly
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you realize why when you were watching
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that opening scene you felt sort of odd
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about the way he was handing out the
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yes why is he only using is one
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hand huh the both of these movies
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actually have conceits and we when we
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get the other one will talk about the
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other one but but concedes that i always
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think of as being in vogue in modern
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movies where they play with perspective
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and they play with time and things like
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that and yet both of these movies do the
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same thing this isn't this is a perfect
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example of one of these things where i
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would i would think of it as a a very
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overused modern trick of well he by
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letting us know that he escapes then it
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changes how we view the entire movie and
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then at the end it does the little
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double-cross and you realize that they
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did catch up to him and he's and then
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he's helped head out in this his
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handcuffs I i guess one of the things i
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learned here is that these tricks are
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even older and more and more hackneyed
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in some ways that I thought because they
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go back for 60 years if you thought they
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were overused now
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yeah then the narrative part of it that
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was interesting to me which also kind of
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applies to both of them is that are our
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heroes who are you know antiheroes in a
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way but like lovable antihero sheriff's
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reset maybe maybe not so much in the
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killing but in this one anyways they
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don't get away with it right like today
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I think if we had the sort of roguish
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you know guy who's were rooting for he
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would get away at the end like I think
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even if you did a framing device like
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this he would he would somehow white get
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I come out on top which does not really
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happen I'm going off the internet here
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but are originally they were thinking
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about having them get away with it and
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the reason they changed it is because
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they thought that the movie wouldn't get
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imported into America crime doesn't have
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a care in the space that was my question
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actually I that I was going to ask
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whether any of the caper films of the
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period actually end with the thieves
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getting away scot-free or is there
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something in the motion picture code
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that says that the long arm of the law
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must prevail it be there was definitely
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in the u.s. code that you had to that
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you couldn't have people enjoying crime
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or are reaping the reaping the lungs you
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don't have Jimmy Cagney going well that
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was a life well led against get here
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yeah there's a year of a Padre he'll
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burn and you know hanging with generally
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suppose i'm not sure how much I believe
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that story just because I don't I don't
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think of ealing studios go we've got to
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crack the American market boys have
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changed the ending of the movie I I
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think they probably uh didn't want to
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upset the conventions in the mores of
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the time and so that's that's why they
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probably have the ending that they do
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you mean you don't really see people
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getting away with it until like the pink
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panther where again to spoil it
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the heave-ho the hero gets freezing he's
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a panther in the end the end the sorry
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it's everybody I was always disappointed
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that he wasn't so the cats out of the
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oh and David Niven gets away with it you
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know but that you know I can't remember
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if anyone gets away with it before him
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that David get David gets away with it
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but there isn't any in any of this
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equals right so often when they got away
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when you get away with scams and cons it
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was because you were taking someone who
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deserves to get taken right so what's
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interesting about the Lavender Hill mob
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the way I look at it is it they don't
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get away with it but you are made to
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sympathize with them and like Alec
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Guinness there's that scene where they
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try to promote him so he's literally
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like he has to do the job on on that
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friday because that he's gonna get it
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they promoted him to a different job
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finally after 19 after 19 years of this
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awful menial job and he's gonna get an
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extra like six shillings a week or
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something
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15 showing 15 shillings a week yeah but
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it's really i mean for me to several
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thousand dollars in today's money it's
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not it's like eight cents
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I'm oh I don't know what Sheila is
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converted into but I just I got the
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sense from that it's like okay what
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you've done is you've taken away the job
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he actually was good at and you've given
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him almost no extra money to do this
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other job
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no wonder he wants to steal your gold so
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I was immediately sympathetic Alec
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Guinness because I felt like you know
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this is a terrible job and they don't
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pay him well and he of course you do you
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should always the guys who handled the
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gold pay them well that's what I say
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that might be a comedy there so there's
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a quiet yearning to the to the Alec
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Guinness character about a fellow who
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who knows that this is the the best he's
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going to get in life but
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a yet tries to reach for more yes
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they're not very modeling about it but
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it's it's a very very well-constructed
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character now he's very lucky to have
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that guy move into his his his building
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who who just happens to be involved in
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the melting down of gold that the very
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fundamental he's going to be promoted at
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well that works out let's have it that's
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kind of the way evening studios comedies
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work right the certain amount of
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coincidence and contrivance but the end
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result still is is pretty delightful
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what I love about the movie and and I
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think one of the reasons why I picked it
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as I I think it's just a superbly
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plotted because within 15 minutes
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they've outlined the entire caper this
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is how we're going to rob the money
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within 30 minutes they're pulling off
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the caper and and pulling it off
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not really according to the elaborate
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plan that they hatched out and then it's
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just it
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there's really not a wasted seen it
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there's really not a scene where they
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have to go back and explain now remember
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this is the caper we're doing that even
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when they bring in the the two other
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hoodlums into their into their little
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gang they the the script is written in
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such a way that you don't have a double
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x position although it does all fall
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down on kind of a a ridiculous
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contrivance which is that a Frenchwoman
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sort of I i enjoy it but it sort of goes
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off the rails once they once they leave
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yeah well it does it does get a little
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bit commit because then you've got the
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Eiffel Towers they go home with the
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schoolchildren yeah and then one of them
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makes its way to a police exposition
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where that happens to be a chemist
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testing gold from the robberies and what
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that is hilariously ridiculous but it's
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great no it's great it's fantastic and
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as a little bit of background what
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happens is the the Eiffel Tower the the
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gold Eiffel Towers are shipped to France
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and they're supposed to sit in the
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warehouse but someone can't tell the
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difference between the are in the Edit
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and side and yes start selling the
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myself because he's an Englishman would
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have said are as I she might have picked
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it up as an a as opposed to an R
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Eiffel Towers to these English
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schoolgirls myself ill it's just you
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know don't get the French involved
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yeah that's the blessing of this movie
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is trust I don't trust the French with
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anything of value when I did appreciate
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about that whole bit though was that
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we've been presented the allocated
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character who has a happy what I would
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call a periodic speech impediment
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occasionally you know his arse kind of
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come and go yes
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not really super consistent with whether
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he says them or not but in a modern
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movie that with the plot would hinge on
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that in some very much so and in this
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movie it's just there may need it just
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happens to have a speech impediment
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there's really no purpose of it there's
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no point at all and in the end where a
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modern movie would have had you know the
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problem with the French lady hinge on
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his speech impediment it turns out to be
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the other guy who's days and ours get
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confused
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it has nothing to do with with with the
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Guinness characters speech impediment at
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all what I really love about Dennis in
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this movie is the brief moments you get
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of him really relishing this role
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there's that scene where is like they're
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well you're the boss and he's like yes
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yes I am and you you get a little bit of
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that too there's a scene where he tells
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them to leave some of the gold in the
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truck that they robbed and they're kind
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of like we're talking about there's like
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75,000 pounds there you know we can make
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all this money and he says no just leave
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it and is that there's a certain amount
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of you you know why steal with his voice
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at that point which is interesting for
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character who is so mild-mannered but
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like you get the feeling again if this
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was a modern movie that it would turn
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into sort of more his descent into
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hardened criminal right it never goes
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that way but like there you could you
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can kind of see how that might develop
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this isn't the Lavender Hill mob is
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breaking bad right
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right now I've got not houses just
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relishing not being the lowest man on
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the totem pole for ya right right
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exactly but it's a it's getting such a
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great job of balancing those two aspects
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of that character well as Jason pointed
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out earlier that that Howard Guinness is
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a funny guy
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I'm at and this would be as good a time
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to discuss that as any i think you know
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most audiences
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people our age are gonna be easy but
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there's obi-wan Kenobi what are you
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doing here or if you're a have a wider
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film vocabulary you know I'm from bridge
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on the river choir you you know I'm from
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from lawrence of arabia but he really if
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you dig deep into his filmography he
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does a lot of really great comic work
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besides uh this movie he'd kind hearts
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and coronets where he played in which
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she plays like that doesn't he play
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right doesn't get the roles including a
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lady and was a hideous looking lady
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I i just want to stipulate that right
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now he's out he was in the original
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Ladykillers he was a white suit he
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another great healing studios comedy is
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our man in Havana where again plays kind
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of a wormy guy who who rises above his
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station and if you if you get a chance
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if you if you reject films that are in
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black-and-white try and rent neil
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simon's murder by death because in that
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movie he's a he's the butler he's
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terrific and that he's the blind Butler
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Benson mama
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so after I get back from France I it's a
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it's a a different movie which is not to
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say it isn't wacky it's actually in some
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ways i found that the most memorable
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part of the movie is that there is this
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ridiculous they go to the school to try
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and bribe ER i guess just exchanged the
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Eiffel Towers for the let Eiffel Towers
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but then there's the one girl who
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refuses to give it to them because you
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drive is over which the teacher doesn't
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bad and I know
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ok these men came all the way from
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France to exchange your your misc at
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your perfectly going to give them five
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shillings for for heat transfer it's
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it's it's certainly normal but what but
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she takes the girl takes the the the
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gold statue to the to the worst place
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possible if you're a robber which is
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like the police expo which they met they
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apparently have and there's a
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demonstration thereof by a scientist who
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can prove that things are gold just boy
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that's bad luck and there's a hole at
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the police expo there's this whole wacky
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when they essentially just decide to
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grab the the statue and run because
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they're going to be found out and then
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they have this crazy chase through the
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police expo and then there's a whole
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crazy car chase which involves them
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stealing a police car and pretending to
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end radioing in bad information to the
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police cars and it's uh it's there's
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lots of action and it's funny and it's
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weird and I I enjoyed that part a lot
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it's a bit too madcap for my taste
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actually like yeah like I said I for me
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the high point of the movie ends when
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they're trying to get back from France
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and they there's this whole bit of
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business where they're trying to get on
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the boat to in Calais and I know you've
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gotta go through customs and no you've
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gotta buy the tickets and and and both
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Alec Guinness and Stanley Holloway or
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are freaking out and it's that's a very
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funny bit on in a very nice bit of
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controlled madness
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whereas I think once they have the the
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car chase scene that gets a little bit
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too Benny Hill for my taste the way that
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he eventually actually gets away is
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actually quite understated right because
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he goes into the tube and they follow
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him in and he comes out again and then
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he goes back around goes into very
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calmly goes in again and that's how we
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eventually get away which I thought was
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very very clever and it's a slight
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little commentary on society because
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it's oh he's able to blend in because
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he's a wormy guy and we're all were all
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wormy guys I like the confusion in the
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cars though there's a nice moment where
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they're like car for car for and they're
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like a hot car for is a fake
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he's like you said you said we were car
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for your car for work are three and and
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it's so he's smart he he throws them
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he's very devious and he throws them off
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the scent plus the cops are kind of them
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i'm not going to say they're like Dukes
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of Hazzard level companies don't have
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what they call keystone cops in England
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they like breckenridge Bobby's one of
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the inspectors i believe is Christopher
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Hewett yes these years you may recognize
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from such TV shows as mr. Belvedere and
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ghost of mr. Belvedere one of the
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chemist at the exhibition is apparently
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robert sean is yes roll
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yes exactly lot a lot a lot of hey you
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are in this the in the sun for you were
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big apparently Alec Guinness would get
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very angry if you would come
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Tim and try to talk about Star Wars yeah
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oh yeah well you can you blame him with
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this now I care to admit that was one
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booth me out of 50 tool that I made
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something else that struck me about this
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movie and just the difference between a
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caper film in 1951 and what you would
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see today was just how relatively
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simplistic it was in the highest frankly
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there's not that much to it
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yeah there no lasers and mirrors and
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video cameras to duplicate and all of
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those things we've seen a million times
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no one is switching thumb prints no one
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is pulling off of pulling off a mask
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pretending to be someone else right I'll
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be in the truck and we're a modern movie
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would have taken you know they would
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have piled a minor air onto a
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misunderstanding and it would have
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dragged it out for the rest of the film
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sort of building and building that this
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house just mean there there are some
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minor issues with the highest but it
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kind of goes off without too big of a
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I guess audiences of the fifties could
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only take so much tension but while they
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set you up to think it's gonna go wrong
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right when that you when he accidentally
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when Stanley accidentally steals the
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painting and walks away with the
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painting and now the police are all over
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there and he's meant to be causing a
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distraction which he does anyways by
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having virtue of you know see me to have
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still want to paint it and they're
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accomplices are supposed to rough up
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Alec Guinness to make it look like he's
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been robbed but they they panic and flee
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the scene so Alec Guinness Esther rough
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himself up which is a great bit of
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physical comedy which works so well the
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police think he's a hero right when the
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the idea that movies to their more
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complicated is partly because we have
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this template right it no one's ever
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going to rob our gold truck again
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well they they hadn't seen the same
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story over and over and over again
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whereas a you know by now we've got 60
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70 years of the same movie ideas so they
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have to jack it up like what more can we
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do what can we pile on to surprise you
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just just a few things have changed in
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the last 60 years that you know it's
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funny that the the twist at the end that
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i actually didn't pick up on until maybe
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just a few seconds before it actually
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went off i realize the reason I didn't
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pick up on that was because i was
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expecting that cliche and
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not to have existed in 1951 yeah so I
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was sort of surprised when it actually
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turned out i mean i'm sure it wasn't a
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cliché at the time it was probably
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exactly first instances of it but I
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thought it was surely before that had
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come to be so it was kind of a bit of a
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surprise one that that's I was actually
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gonna talk about that with the the next
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slaying the little old lady who lives in
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be nominated today I get to be an
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accomplice oh yeah she'd be the one who
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got away with all the money at the end
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seven work if I had somebody who every
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the door and called me a naughty man
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oh you watching man different life pad
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know you naughty naughty men that was a
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crazy boardinghouse although that was
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the flaw in his plan to is like if any
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guy who melts down metal yeah the chicas
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find that out
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yes is in a slightly different in tone
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did yeah I was always bringing
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everything that we've had the the light
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about the killing and open up a vein
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life is worthless and you will fail
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that's the message of the killing ladies
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the movie what's the difference the
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yeah a little-little dogs are annoying
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that was what I took oh no ladies it
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ladies could make another appearance
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steer clear of the old bat's if you're
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going to be pulling off a caper is that
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lesson I take little dogs in english
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school girls are problems right are
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so i will now recount the plot of the
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killing it will be very difficult as
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they use nonlinear storytelling yes this
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is another technique the crew you know
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movie to use nonlinear storytelling and
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apparently it was not a well-received
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technique out of the time if I mail back
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this with some music from the film ok so
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sterling here dude sterling Hayden is
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fresh out of prison
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fresh out of the fresh out of the
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Graybar hotel but he's not going to let
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that get him down no he's planning a
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caper little caper it's uh he's going to
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Robert a racetrack he's gonna gonna take
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them of all their money and easy
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enlisted not croc see points out but
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just people with a little larceny in
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them and they all have their reasons for
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participating there's the there's the
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Elijah cook character who's got a
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money-grab and wife and there's a
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there's a bartender at the racetrack his
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wife is very sick and he needs the money
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to to help her get better
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there's the cop who appears to be in
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very bad gambling debts he he makes
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kevin spacey in LA confidential look
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like McGruff the Crime Dog like Russell
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enough so and then there's that the old
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man who's bankrolling them whoo-hoo I
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kinda has taken a shine to sterling
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Hayden hey let's go away together after
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this yeah yeah we'll go to Vermont and
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interesting some open up bread and
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breakfast together let's see how about
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the list can we talk about the great
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roles for women in this movie now well
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yeah well now we're that were done with
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so yeah i already mentioned uh Elijah
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cooks wife who is a gold and grab
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money-grubbing harlot
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yep forget yet just a terrible one of
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the most terrible human beings you will
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ever use sterling Hayden has a
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girlfriend and she is just are pretty
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and she's not very smart
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wow what if that don't mean I forgot now
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bad that scene was just in
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terms of the i believe i've always
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believed anything that you took me
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yeah anything I waited for five years
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while you were in prison because you're
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such a great guy i think the best way to
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describe sterling Hayden girlfriend in
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that movie is present or possibly
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liquored up I don't yeah well she's very
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supportive and self-loathing self and
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apart from the sickly wife that's about
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it for four ladies Steve mentioned the
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blaring music I just don't like to cook
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being in Star Trek they the music in
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this movie is actually buy one of the
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two or three small core star trek
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composers so I had moments where i was
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waiting for Captain Kirk to begin a
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fistfight in the middle of the killing
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because it's basically that same kind of
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blaring horns kind of music and it's
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there's a lot of it but I swear is this
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jockeys were going by in that opening
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scene I was sure I was gonna see
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gladiators come thru was going to be
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worn to come out and interrupt the horse
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race start playing fizzbin in the middle
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of the movie and I just would've been
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great if could fight the giant Russian
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guy that's arms and all the wrestler
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yeah so there are two out there are two
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other people in this in this in this
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caper their ancillary characters one is
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HS loving wrestler because doctors in
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the world who is commissioned to
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basically start a fight to provide the
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distraction source so sterling Hayden
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can get in the unauthorized area and and
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steal the money and he's like real cop
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senior yeah it is like and and this guy
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was a real wrestler and apparently a pal
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of stanley kubrick's and and he is just
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you gotta love the scene where they rip
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his shirt was clearly designed to be
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honest like he's wearing another shirt
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underneath that or happen half right
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down the back of that the part I love
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about the fight that he starts is the
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cops run at him in waves that script is
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it over with some and yeah driver
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yeah this WWF match breaks out in the
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middle of the film let's run at them two
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at a time instead of all of us at once
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around him hitting them with trenches
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let's give a given a chance to beat up
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on us you know though i would say that
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that and and the Roddy Piper fight scene
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at the keith david Roddy Piper fight
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scene from they live are probably the
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two best
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it seems I've ever seen in any film both
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professional wrestlers I came here to
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kick ass and chew bubblegum and help
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sterling hating the highest i've just
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got that third thing but you couldn't
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understand what i said as i did and and
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and then you've got the teeth gritting
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sharpshooter
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yeah with a with a guy with a rifle the
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other it the other way that they're
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distracting all the cops is that they're
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going to shoot a horse in the middle of
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a race which seems excessive
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is there a reason that they that they
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target the one horse but he's gonna be
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that they explain it briefly he's the
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front-runner and if you shoot the
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front-runner than other horses might
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collapse into them and create more of a
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ruckus and a scene and it creates more
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of an alibi because there are more
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potential reasons why somebody might
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want to take down the horse is running
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well then one that sucks right now is
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actually a crowd to and just get
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everybody's attention
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yeah he insults the wrong guy and does
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not get away
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no one really gets away in this movie it
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all in torah plano but the the not to
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get out of line but this is a nonlinear
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narrative so what the hell yeah at 439
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johnny was sitting by the racetrack oh
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that narrator so there isn't there is an
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area where the hell he so he shoots the
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the horse and like within 10 seconds
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there's a cop standing there telling him
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to freeze where the heck did the cop
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come from also that cop shoots and
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pretty fast
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really fat yeah well yeah that was bad
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I understand that's really bad luck of
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it yeah yeah we also ran over a
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horseshoe Jason is all about bad luck
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well that was bad luck you know in the
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fifties lots of car thieves wander the
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track and yeah shakedown pencils or
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definitely have the interlocking
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visit the bar at the at the racetrack
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perspective of everyone who is
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participating in this in this house so
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but you know at the time movies where
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that's done well and this one there
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really isn't that much point
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ya know i acting anything from the other
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guy's perspective of the same scene
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again should have just as well be Linda
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well yeah it builds tension a little bit
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i mean i don't know I appreciate you do
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I see what he was going for my best
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people wouldn't get it if he was a
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little more ambitious weird and in fact
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i think the variety review at the time
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called that the style somewhat confusing
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you know it's really not that confusing
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it's not yet i thought the narrator made
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it more confusing because well as the
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narrator was was added basically because
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of this is very confusing added narrator
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hated the narration that he made the
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narration deliberately confusing I again
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this could be apocryphal but but who
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four days earlier the narrator so
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precise that it's like yes at if four
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days earlier than three minutes earlier
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then two minutes later it's just it's so
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precisely these keeps shifting around 20
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years later happen shadow it does have
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the feel of someone who is very
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resentful that he had to have a narrator
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i will i will say that yeah yeah there
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are some great lines in this film it is
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and what are your headlines that the
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closing line of and what's the
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difference is fantastic
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whatever-the-hell maurices saying is all
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pretty good and then the parent gets a
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good line to when when George goes down
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he actually you can hear the parrot sort
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of say it fair ain't fair
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yeah that the the dialogue was done by
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jim thompson the hard-boiled crime
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I've got you an author of The Grifters
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get adapted into other really good
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turkmen piece right because this is
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basically it's a film noir this this
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movie in a way yeah
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yes I didn't realize how to war it was
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that would tell the Shakespeare like
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ending which I did not see coming at all
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given the rest of the film
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alright so at the end I what we get set
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up a long time at the beginning of the
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movie it gets set up and then I forgot
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about it I I was like all right Elijah
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questions goonies money-grubbing
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money-grubbing whore of a wife has a has
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a little action of a friend who is a
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thug who is going to steal the stolen
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money and double cross or I guess he's
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not in it so it's not double-cross he's
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gonna he's gonna rob the robbers right
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and so he does he walks in and they're
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still waiting because the guy's been
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delayed their they're waiting for for
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the money to get there
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yes and Elijah cook Jr basically he's
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got a gun set up by his money-grubbing
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whore of a wife to think that sterling
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teen and raped her hitting on her yeah
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so very least so he snaps and he's got a
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gun prepared to shoot sterling hate
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right so he shoots a few times and
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picked up several several of the bullets
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passed through multiple people multiple
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times and kill them because it seemed
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like he he only shot you know five or
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six times and yet everybody
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extremely dead everybody's realize that
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the reason that he was bleeding and shot
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up was because there was one shotgun
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blast that was gotten off by the by the
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lover i initially thought he actually
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shot himself a few times the lever also
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has a has a little accomplice to Andy
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fires yeah there's a lot of shooting I
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believe several several gaffers died
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during that scene but everybody's dead
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except for 11 don't already been killed
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by the music and Elijah cooks eyes are
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wide and he's like and he's got he's got
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blood all over him and he's pleased yeah
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he gets hit by some straight fire he
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doesn't die immediately that was when
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the movie turned awesome to me because I
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really did not see that coming
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he stumbles out into sterling Aidan's
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car and sterling Hayden of course avoids
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all of this because he got stuck in
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traffic
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yeah this is la la my way yeah but then
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he's undone by the ability like my
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carry-on luggage like petty bureaucrats
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and a well-lit that's what so LAX
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so what we'll get we'll get to the the
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problems of the airline industry in the
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know if only i had paid attention to the
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TSA guidelines sign my suitcase but so
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Elijah cook goes back to his money
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grubbing wife she's awful and and she's
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packing and she's saying as he walks in
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Oh boyfriend who double-crossed those
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guys let's go away and then she turned
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you into double-crossing my husband yet
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oh crap oh no that anyone was awake and
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over her suitcases like I'm just taking
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some stuff to the cleaner is you know
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interesting she couldn't handle I shook
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it looks like he's gone blind
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he's like literally acting like he's
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blind he's like his eyes are wide and
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he's looking around and he and he shoots
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her to that is the most marvelously shot
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scene 2 when he's sort of draped over
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the birdcage and shot from sort of down
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into the left and the shadows are just a
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really highlight his face there it's a
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gorgeous see and i think it's it's
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probably the best seat in the film for
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being he asked her one last time for
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some help to call the colony ambulance
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or something and she's like I do it
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yourself
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all right then that answers my question
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that were having some fun with the the
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plotting and whatnot but it's a beauty
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free shot movie and and just great use
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of shadow great use of lighting that
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many of times you see the characters
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throughout the throughout the movie
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behind bars of some sort and it's yes
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it's really a you can really see Stanley
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Kubrick sprinkling some Cooper dust on
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it and this was the just the right
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yeah where he kind of made his bones and
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from here he made the paths of glory and
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then three years later he did spartacus
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and and so this was kind of where he you
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know broke out of the cocoon and became
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a a beautiful butterfly who made
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haunting movies when his is a idea at
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the time was to make good movies cheap
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cheaply made doesn't mean it can't be
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good right and doesn't mean i can still
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lose money apparently though
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roger corman thought the same thing
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except for the good part in the in the
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chatroom the good doctor doctor drinking
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points out something that I noticed too
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weak always said that tracking shot of
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sterling Hayden walking through the room
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it's just you know it's this long
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sliding tracking shot and that's the one
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I noticed I was like haha i think this
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director might make something of himself
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well the other thing that's nice about
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that is it's not it's not just utterly
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pointless because it sets up the layout
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of the room for oh yeah when the
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conflict happens it is showing enough
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that i'm glad that i'm also thinking
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this is a director who wants to point
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out that he is capable of is doing good
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work that is showy and and and
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interesting like this but it's good it's
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it's very good
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yeah the decorator really sabotage this
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movie for me that was that's that i kept
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getting back bay back to that narrator
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who i think i'm not sure who the
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narrator is but he sounds like one of
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those guys who is probably a an android
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or stora or a world consciousness
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computer or something on Star Trek he's
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got that human airway magneti yeah well
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yeah the dragnet was exactly what I
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thought but I think the thing that had
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that it helped for me was the fact that
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it's set sort of a dragnet feel to the
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thing and then when the whole the
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slaughter occur uh-huh i was i was
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utterly unprepared for that because i
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had been
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and prepared for more of a Joe Friday
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kind of a kind of an ending in there are
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no heroes in this movie not a one even
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more than dragnet it's a lot like it's a
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lot like The Naked City both the movie
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and then the TV series which is
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different from the film but they both
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have that kind of narration it's a
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little more artful indeed city but uh
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it's very much and then two hours
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earlier and that kind of thing
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it's much more and it focuses more on
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the people of the story as opposed to
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the cops who are supposedly the heroes
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of the show so it's a widow it almost
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struck me like a spoof of the Naked City
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can do narration III question for you
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guys which is what what in your
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making immediately making everything
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they're gonna make a killing and then
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people get killed
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see it's upon it is apparent that but I
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don't know I there are other things in
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there that I I think you could
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distribute it i mean there is obviously
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as we just talked about the blood bath
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scene could follow that I thought the
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translation of the horse killing works
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yeah since that sort of like the only
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real you know it planned murder if you
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can call it matters not even murder it's
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going horse I don't know what it is in
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the end is killing the horse actually
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serve much purpose that that is the
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thing with that watching this movie
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again I thought man that the killing the
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horse seems just gratuitous really
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unnecessary
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yeah they could have distracted people
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he could have driven his little car onto
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the racetrack and cause a distraction a
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couple years ago at the Preakness Stakes
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in in Maryland some there's a drunk guy
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ran onto the track that could it worked
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sure you don't have to shoot horses they
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should've sent the Russian guided to run
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fast rap wrestled the horse race or
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fourth this invention that way they
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could save $5,000 well I guess there are
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a lot of sort of small things that go
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wrong with the with the highest right i
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mean the the the elder gentlemen shows
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up drunk and you keep expecting
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something horrible to have right here
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never be polite to a parking attendant I
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think this is just another one of those
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things where you've been you've been set
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up to believe that the horse is going to
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go down and take out
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the entire field and then he doesn't
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anything maybe that's gonna screw things
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up by killing the front-runner suddenly
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all the longshots have a chance
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yeah and whoever wins the race that's
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gonna cause a rush of people on onto the
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the the betting windows yeah that's more
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can use was chaos
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yeah in the in the building where there
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they've already got the fight and he's
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already you know sterling Hayden goes up
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there with a mask and and holds them up
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at at at gunpoint
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there's also we didn't even mention
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there's like the guitar case and there's
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the flower box and they've got rifles in
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them and they they have exchanged the
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mall at this sort of CD like trailer
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motel place that's run by a very
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friendly Italian man Joe piano sophiana
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speaking of scenes that don't really
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make any sense when when sterling Hayden
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goes back to collect the money he goes
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to the wrong like bungalow briefly
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there's like a secondary walks up and
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some guys like what and it'll go wrong
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as great as it scares the hell outta you
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think your hands that's meant to build
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tension method yeah jarring and oh god
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what now
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oh ok and then he goes into his room and
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the dramatic in entering the hotel
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roughing up kicks it scares the hell
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Eddie all over there over there it's
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just the money
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don't dude so okay so they throw that
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they have this clever thing we put they
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put all the money in the duffel bag and
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that's a great scene because it goes on
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you know i got so tense and watching
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that scene because you're thinking you
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knowing
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times ticking time is ticking gotta go
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to gotta go hurry up hurry up and he
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makes you watch this clerk incompetently
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stuff loose cash into a bag for me it
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seems like four minutes very
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matter-of-factly is just very slowly
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stuffing it and finally gotten close up
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that's enough so i really like that and
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then they throw the bag out the window
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and they retrieve the bag later in this
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misdirection and that's great but the
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thing that gets me as he gets it he gets
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a suitcase because they know that it was
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in a duffel bag so i guess he wants to
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switch it for a suitcase so he can take
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it on the flight and all that you get
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the big suitcase and the thing that
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killed me is he's got a perfectly
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contain duffel
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bag full of money so he drives out into
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the countryside behind some trees gets
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out and empties all the money out of the
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duffel bag it's blowing around and tries
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to stuff it in and like sit on the
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suitcase like why don't you just put the
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duffel bag in the suitcase then uw-w
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Baghdad and the answer is revealed
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several minutes later when it turns out
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that your Airlines you know we think the
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airlines are bad now but airlines didn't
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care about you even in the fifties they
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won't let you check your carry-on bag
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take your carry-on bag on the plane you
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gotta check it he couldn't fit that
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underneath the seat and then a lady has
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a dog and it runs out onto the tarmac
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and all of a sudden all of your stolen
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money is blown away by giant turbojet
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engine turbo prop engines yeah I i had
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two thoughts as I was watching that
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scene the fruit the first thought was
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that this ending wouldn't have work
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today because with all the security I or
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even your theory I'm I all today I got
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to take the money with me on the
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carry-on bag they're still going to
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check it so yeah they're gonna say oh
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yeah that's full of money that's what
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allowed with a poodle with never been
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let out onto the tarmac you know well it
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did that and am I ever thought was a boy
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american airlines i'm not sure why they
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participated in this to show that
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they're sticklers for policy we here at
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American Airlines disapprove of track
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heists that one manager really takes a
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lot of delight in like telling him he's
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gonna bump him off the flight i'll give
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you your money back
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we here at American Airlines really want
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to follow the rules we're not the kind
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of people who would rob a track and want
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to emphasize that if you refuse to
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follow the rules will happily refund
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your money
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I i wonder if like american airlines
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agreed to be in that movie that we come
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across really reasonable in that movie
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was gonna sit there and go wow that's
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the airline I want to fly because they
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don't work nonsense
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no no shenanigans here that's the air
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line of snitches I'm not taking them is
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not cases stop it with the fifties under
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my seat the head here at TWA will never
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rat you out to the cops
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you will get away scot-free TWA the
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airline for crooks you've got a bat you
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got a sack full of loose cash and what
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do you do do you keep it in the sack
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or do you say sort of like you're going
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to be in one of those a little plaques
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against glass booths where you have to
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catch all the money in five minutes or
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whatever at the State Fair do you say oh
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this is great i'm outside there's a
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breeze blowing I'm just gonna pull over
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to the side of the road and and try to
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stuff it in this suitcase it's just
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sterling hate not the smartest move
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that's what i'm saying i would just keep
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driving yeah you too smart not too
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do you know why fly just drive I know I
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know your girl who's not too bright and
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not too pretty is waiting for you back
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home but just just drive and then the
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old man could have come with them on the
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trip if they had driven the old man yes
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it could have been a lovely time that is
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a strange scene III hate to keep our
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people yeah but there's a scene where
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that he says to the old man who's been
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so kind of well I guess we'll the capers
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about to come to an end and will not see
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each other hey you could take me with
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you don't get married mary marriage is
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for suckers
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nothing better than two guys hanging out
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with each other
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yeah well as is he actually is he
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actually expressing an attraction there
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in 1956 is not is I weird its policy eat
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it every way to set up your the son I
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never had but its its kind of weirdly
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put well and then he said you know you
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you don't want to marry the wrong person
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here that I don't know it seems a little
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forward thinking for 1956 and that's why
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it took me by surprise in a movie today
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I would absolutely say that's what it
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was about but it's plausible in the in
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the North books of the fifties and it
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explains why he's he's drunk at the
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track later too because he's been
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spurned yeah right and and it's it's the
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kind of thing you couldn't you couldn't
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say outright in a film back then but you
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could you could hint at it in the book
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and considering jim thompson's like
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plausible and I just saw North by
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Northwest also from the fifties and that
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of course has martin landau professing
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his undying love I mean any loyalty
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loyalty
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yes that's what it is for calling my
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woman's intuition yeah
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oh my god so yeah it's there it's a
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subtext made that one for another time
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that's great yeah
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yes so I guess we should we should sum
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this up I
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somebody mentioned earlier is is I do
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think it's interesting that both these
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moves the they do have essentially the
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same ending which is crime doesn't pay
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friends and you know and share the fact
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another thing that I thought was
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interesting is that in both of these
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films these are honorable thieves you
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know you don't
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nobody's out to backstab the others like
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something within the group
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yeah he was eating a different he's ok
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he's a dirty thief he's a bit i love
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that you gotta love that scene in
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Lavender Hill mob
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Lavender Hill mob
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where the the guys are like now we can't
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really go to Paris with you but we trust
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you you're the straightest guys we know
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you know like that to me is such a but
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it's such a counterintuitive hilarious
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scene where they're like yeah but we're
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sure you would come back and give us our
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share of the money because why wouldn't
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whereas in this in the killing certainly
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Hayden's just like up taking off with
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the money
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everyone else is probably dead I'm not
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gonna check they think that they had
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agreed to that ahead of time though
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wasn't as a narrator explains quite
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clearly you are you suggesting strongly
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hadn't heard the narration that its
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earlier 20 minutes ago
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Elijah cook shot everybody so you should
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really get a move on
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crime doesn't pay this is all I'm saying
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crime doesn't pay now i think that i
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think you know we've had some last night
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fellas that really
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crime doesn't pay this this is the
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freeze-frame real laugh for it
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I i had this caper in mind where I was
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going to appear as a guest in the
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podcast is a distraction and then my
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crew was going to rob the podcast of all
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its fortunes which is yet but fell short
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yeah where would you rank these in the
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list of great caper movies to the extent
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seen it many times but it's really hard
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everything has been done so many times
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it's like two inches away from being a
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mystery science theater kind of movie
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that and everybody is just you know
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harping on the name Johnny Johnny Jolly
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have the narrator and the music
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ultimate almost bad nor movie it's great
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you know it's got some wonderful stuff
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but it's just so hard for me to watch
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now where's the Lavender Hill mob mob is
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just charming
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yeah it's you know and I I like that
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well I I like there's this sort of
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tradition of shaggy dog ending in canton
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caper films like Ocean's eleven the
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original wherever in the money in there
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any money
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the one guy dies and they go well we'll
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get the money out in the coffin and they
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don't realize that he's going to be
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cremated and they all kind of walk out
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of the funeral going and at the end of
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the movie that's a great ended and you
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know spoiler hard so yeah I mean I i
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would put Lavender Hill mob higher up
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than the killing III and also what I put
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right with Lavender Hill mob is a fish
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called wanda which was directed by
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Charles Creighton who directed Lavender
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Hill mob that is a great movie that
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actually put that above left to give up
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because the plots just a little tighter
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I'd say the sting if you're if you're
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looking for the best caper movie
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probably the sting is the one night with
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students
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oh yeah I put that my top five now watch
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that just just recently just a few
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months ago again for the like fourth or
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fifth time and if you're looking for a
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modern-day caper movie with kind of the
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life-affirming a howl of the killing
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I i would go with a house of games which
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is a oh yeah David Mamet movie from
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before hehe went right off his nut and
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it is it is terrific
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also the Spanish prisoner in Spanish
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prisoners quite david mamet's made quite
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a few good ice enjoyed case i was about
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to say high school fees including but
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not limited to see if it has one of my
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favorite lines in it
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everybody wanted money that's why they
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call it money yeah i just i love it's
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the devito just a great great delivery
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I have a hard time getting into Lavender
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on this one
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a hard time getting into it and i think
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that may be why when it turned into a
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zany romp through the police expo and
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and and various cop cars running around
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all that I kind of woke up a little bit
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it just it was hard for me to access it
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just felt a little bit sleepy to me the
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killing
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I would paint it I paid attention the
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entire time i did feel like this was you
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know I i was watching a noir caper kind
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of movie and it was hard-boiled and the
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narrator was very confusing although
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funny i mean i just started to laugh at
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all the detail that the Neriah gave and
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and I and and it was very tense during
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the actual caper portion I really did
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feel that tension of the you know come
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on put the money in the bag but the
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money in the bag you know don't shoot
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the horse all of that I don't know the
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killing I guess I i appreciated although
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I probably i'm not sure i would revisit
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it i'm michael i got Elijah cook stuff
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though I think maybe I liked I think
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maybe I liked the killing more but i
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know i'm not sure i would i think i can
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see that it's maybe not as good a movie
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is the Lavender Hill mob but i think i'm
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going to enjoyed it more because parts
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of it were so over-the-top and kind of
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almost I don't I don't I don't really
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know it's like it's like it feels in
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some ways like oh this is the kind of
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movie that they made the crime movies
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that they would make and it's and it's
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kind of too much of everything it was
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also a huge influence on Reservoir Dogs
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yeah i can see that i was going to take
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and if they get this is work here to
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Quentin Tarantino stole all of his
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yeah he said that point blank bill had
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asked us at one point to consider
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whether some of these films might bear
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remake and I i think in this case if
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they remade The Killing modern audiences
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would say it was ripping off Tarantino
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yep yep yeah I don't you think it has do
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you think the appreciation of some of
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these things has to do more with you
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know also your exposure to things of
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this similar ilk
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I mean I'm speaking for I love the love
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Lavender Hill mob and that's because the
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thing that these two movies have in
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common for me is actually both of them
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were shown to me by my dad who is not a
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aficionado much of you know modern
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movies but he he really well
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classic movies especially in war movies
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and they are their distinct in yet
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similar in some ways but I that's what I
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associate them with is the movie / my
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dad says that would be watching and I
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watched many old movies with him when I
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was growing up you know a lot of them
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comedies but you know many of them in
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later years when I was a teenager and
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more movies you with the bill were
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playing at the local movie house and so
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them in that way even if at times they
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felt kind of slow and ponderous
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especially as I've gotten older i really
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see all the intricacies in the you know
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the the construction of them and I i
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really like both of these movies i do
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think 11 a whole mob i think is probably
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the one I prefer just because i really
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love Alec Guinness but yeah I I'm fan
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both of them also not only is this
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surprisingly directed by by the director
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of a fish called wanda the
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cinematographer is the cinematographer
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welcome of raiders of the lost ark and
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the other three acknowledged Indiana
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Jones movies as well as you know like
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the Italian the italian job you know
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still why do I believe he's a hundred
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years ago seasons yeah so Phil what if
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we have are you surprised by our
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reactions do you find a you-know-what
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what have we what have you told us what
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we missed
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now I I think you you pretty much got I
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i was i I was thinking actually that the
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Lavender Hill mob would be a hard sell
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for today's today's audience because
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it's not it's not a comedy style
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currently in vogue it's it's a it's a
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little relaxed
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yeah exact that very good yeah that
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that's a very good adjective to describe
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it it's it's one of those things where
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you you would read if you're reading the
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store and you go oh that's funny isn't
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it laughing out out loud it's like The
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Reader's Digest caper film
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yeah exactly um and rewatching the
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killing because it's been a few years
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since I've seen that
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didn't hold up as well as a as I had
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remembered and some of the points of how
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God that that soundtrack and the
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narrator and just did it
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I i learned a little bit two fellows and
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not just a crime doesn't hate I but we
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did learn that we all we all win yeah
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well I you'd have to be a fool to miss
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that lesson that was an important lesson
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I was kind of hammered home that was not
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very subtle no crime crime pays just
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very very very briefly for a year while
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you're in some cases that's pretty
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reality this is basically the only one
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who gets anything out of that the wages
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of sin are death but the hours are
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greater frankly a year and audrey
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hepburn I i would go for it
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you risk the jail time sure got to think
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that reasonable answer is one with it in
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a post-credit sequence a lagina skit has
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his thugs waiting outside the hotel
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knocks the British constable unconscious
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and he flees and who recruited to join
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the adventure he pleased to tatooine
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where he become yes i do want to make
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mention of what i think is probably the
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best gag line in the film which is a
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forget who's saying it might be the
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police think the guys who's caught the
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painter character and is sort of shaking
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him down because he thinks he's stolen
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something from the street vendor right
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in the the cop yells 999 and the guys
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responses no no no I thought was pretty
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good when we recommend these movies to
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listeners who work slowly friends and
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loved ones I I actually watched the
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Lavender Hill mob with both of the kids
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and they they paid attention to the
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whole thing so I can't wait to show them
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the killing
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yeah I think you could show people
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Lavender Hill mob a a modern audience
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the Lavender Hill mob and get away with
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it more reasonably if you have a if it's
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a friend you know and you know that they
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can laugh at anything
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xs and and kind of kooky stuff i think
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the killing might work because again
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that narrator is
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really hilarious especially in his way
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but we I think if i had to pick one
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foremost taste i would probably say the
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Lavender Hill mob because either you
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like the first part which is which has
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the tone that that that you guys have
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described its relaxed or if that doesn't
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work for you know halfway through it
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becomes a me chase picture for a while
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so friday in 1227 am Jason decided which
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of the movies he liked better thank you
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married her that's funny i would have
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said exactly the opposite the killing
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work for me it it held my attention and
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over the the narrator pretty quickly
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because they just assume it's of the
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period huh
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of time kind of looking at my watch
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you know it i I couldn't decide whether
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was just kind of bored by it and while i
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did enjoy the film I mean Dave David
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know it's a little slow and humor I
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don't think works that much but you're a
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little slow in your humor doesn't work
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leave a comment like that our listeners
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have asked for all this time take it
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back now I i love Steve too much to be
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like you've killed obi-wan and knew I
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ultimately i'd i enjoyed it enjoyed it i
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just it it was just a little too slow
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and I just don't I i'm not sure who I
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would try to recommend this to unless it
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was somebody that was specifically
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asking for older for movies just to gain
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breath kind of like what we're doing
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how about a Russian wrestler likes to
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play chess would you recommend it to him
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god I love that guy seriously man I
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could watch two hours of Justin you're
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in luck Steve I've got the movie for you
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did anybody understand enough of his
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speech upon leaving the just economy he
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was he told the guy like it is like
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basically like you get locked up or
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something is like call this guy until my
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needed services right yeah which guy
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what guy who we talking about i don't
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think i'll probably his lawyer new yeah
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like your jizz quarter-on-quarter lawyer
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it seems like it could have been
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important but i had no clue what he was
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such a different movie it's a totally
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different move
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there's a movie about breaking him out
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of prison it's the killing to electric I
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would I was so like Shane Murray's
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unleashed 2004 race will be back in the
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killing of the English language yes
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Maurice and the old lady from the
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Lavender Hill mob team up in huh
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happy money are you not arresting her i
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watch that movie that's pretty it all
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right I should we should we close up
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this inaugural edition of old movie club
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we actually shared before the cop is
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coming to movie is fading into the the
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mists of time my hip
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remember me say these old movies you can
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watch me again we're on Turner Classic
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Movies you're one of your streaming
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services that we don't even know exists
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because we were made so long ago it it's
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amazing that there are images show up on
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the other computers and their sold
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well uh Phil thank you so much for
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suggesting that we watch these movies
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and the and again they're available for
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anyone to rent which is which is again
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puts you one up on siracusa with his
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obscure anime movie so exactly
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yeah I'm happy I'm happy to have been
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here i'm sure i will not be invited that
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Dan Morgan thank you for being here is
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always a distinct pleasure David lower
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thank you for being here thank you
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anytime
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steve lets you don't need to fly back to
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your girlfriend but we go away together
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in the car
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you are a naughty naughty man what's the
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difference
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and what's the difference the difference
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and I've minutes earlier so until uh
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next time thanks to everybody out there
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for listening to the uncomfortable
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we'll see you next time
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