The Incomparable

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00:00:05 ◼   ► the incomparable number 355 May 2017 [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► welcome back everybody to the [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► incomparable in this episode we're [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► talking about a classic film following [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► up on our conversation a while ago about [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► the Godfather we're going to talk about [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► guess what the Godfather Part 2 from [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► 1974 directed again Francis Ford Coppola [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► written by Francis Ford Coppola and [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► Mario Puzo from Mario Puzo's novel [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► joining me to talk about the Godfather [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► Part 2 are these fine gentlemen John [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► siracusa hello Jason if you do a podcast [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► about the Godfather Part 3 you'll [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► disappoint me I think making that [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► already made that joke no not on the [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► podcast voice sq yawn hello [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► coming to you live in my home in my [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► bedroom where my wife sleeps and the [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► children I don't have play with their [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► toys Merlin Mann is also here hi Marilyn [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► I'm a retired investor that's good and [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► John Gruber is back to talk about the [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► Godfather once more hi John hey I like [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► The Godfather Part three so do i whew [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► interesting interesting so are there any [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► opening statements that anyone would [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► like to make about the Godfather Part 2 [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► now would be a good time [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► John siracusa do you have an opening [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► statement no surprisingly I don't you [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► just hide I might I might have an [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► abbreviated opening statement and now [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► I'm getting stage fright doing such a [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► thing in front of John siracusa I I [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► think that one of the things that gets [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► profoundly lost about these movies is [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► that is they are really deeply [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► inherently political and and very much [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► about the cycle of capitalism and that's [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► something that becomes a major theme [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► that some lanterns get hung on in this [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► one in particular where we you know we [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► we bounce back and forth in time and we [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► see I think the the building of what we [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► what we consider a I guess I guess a [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► more shameful part of the modern [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► economic model but something that is [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► that is a big part of it which is [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► graphed at a very of different levels [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► and I you know I you know I I political [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► opinions this may not necessarily be the [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► best place for them you know in a [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► partisan fashion but generically they're [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► probably a few a few opinions that I [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► have on that front one of the things [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► that struck me I was thinking about the [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► opening to the Godfather you know I [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► believe in America and I was thinking [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► about that thought and the imagery in [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► Godfather two which opens differently [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► but very quickly you see a whole bunch [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► of interesting I just it put me in the [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► frame of mind of the immigrant story and [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► of being a new immigrant to America when [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► we see him when we when we see young [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► Vito looking over the one ship to see [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► the top of the of the the Statue of [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► Liberty and I also thought about it [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► throughout Michael's performance in that [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► context it started getting me to [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► thinking about Michael and about the [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► burden of sort of first-generation [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► Americans children of immigrants and how [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► that that is I feel like you know that's [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► a key part of the Godfather story too is [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► this isn't just a story about some some [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► mobsters this is a story about [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► immigrants who are who are in America [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► but still like kind of kind of have [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► their countrymen around them and then [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► about the children of the immigrants [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► that are not living the same lives as [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► their parents and that it's just in this [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► movie hits home about that even more [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► than the first one does there's a [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► there's a big link within Al Pacino's [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► career to his work in Scarface where [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► there there is this very heavy image of [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► immigrants having to make good with what [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► they can and struggling and scraping and [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► resorting to vice and crime and so on [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► and it's something that that I think is [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► contributed to a very unfortunate [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► assumption about immigrants in general [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► based on people paying much more [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► attention to popular media than the [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► actual facts and history of things the [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► the majority of what people see in these [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► struggling scraping immigrants and [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► refugees stories is people like video [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► Corleone coming over to the States and [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► otherwise being an upstanding guy but [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► then turning into a crime boss or in the [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► case of Scarface you know you've got [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► ALPA chinos character who [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► comes over on the on the Mariel boatlift [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► and and you know he he shows he shows [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► America who's boss and and the the thing [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► that the thing that bugs me about it is [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► that there is that profound [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► misunderstanding that people have about [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► what that life is and the struggle that [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► that life is and the vast majority of [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► people who are in that situation we're [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► looking for a better life and don't [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► build a gigantic crime family seems like [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► wait money on the table doesn't it yeah [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► I mean that's the thing is we're just [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► we're stupid we're the missed [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► opportunity to clearly I think same [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► actors same director I would argue [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► Carlito's Way is actually about I like [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► Carlita's Way better than Scarface I I [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► agree completely [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► oh I like Carlito's Way better than [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► Scarface for many many reasons [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► not just going to the fact that I'm [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► cuban-american right but it hits with [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► those themes those same themes you know [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► Puerto Rican immigrant instead of [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► instead of Cuban yeah usually what I do [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► is kind of walk through the the story [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► and you guys can stop me I'm going to [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► kind of go in the blocks now because [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► this is a movie that is told in two [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► timeframes and in the early 20th century [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► with young Vito Corleone who as an adult [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► is played by Robert De Niro and then in [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► the late 50s we are focused on on [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► Michael and that's the the story picking [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► up where the Godfather left off and so [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► they go back and forth so I feel like [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► that might be a good way for us to cover [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► this kind of in blocks on that on that [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► topic of you know the two timeframes I [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► was racking my brain trying to think if [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► any other movie has done this to this [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► degree this is the only movie I can [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► think of that is both a prequel and a [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► sequel to a successful film all in one [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► and not in like a lot of movies do it [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► where it's it's a sequel you know it's [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► the movie that comes after the first one [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► that was very popular and it continues a [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► story but with flashbacks this movie as [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► evidenced by the weird recutting where [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► they make chronological it's basically [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► two movies in one that they cut back and [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► forth it's not like a sequel with a [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► couple flashbacks to give you some [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► backstory it is two movies and the way [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► that you know who has managed it who has [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► the guts and the gall to say I'm gonna [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► make a prequel and a sequel in one [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► gigantic ridiculously long movie and [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► you're going to like it and they pull it [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► off and it's like a miracle [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► that plays into my opening statement oh [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► we [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► now the thing that struck me right we [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► watched it this week I you know took me [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► a couple of sittings because it's seven [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► hours long fraud it's two movies really [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► so there you go in length it's three [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► hours and 22 minutes but ya round up to [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► seven what really struck me and I don't [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► know I ever really had this thought [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► before was that of that group of 70s [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► filmmakers who a lot of you know they [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► were largely pals with each other store [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► let's just see Spielberg Lucas Coppola [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► De Palma who might leave it yeah those [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► are the four I was thinking of yeah when [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► we when we talked about American [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► Graffiti we talked about those four it [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► the same context yeah uh so let's just [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► say those four Oh Scorsese sure again [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► can't leave out Scorsese Scorsese who [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► Coppola actually recommended to the [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► studio when he didn't think that he [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► wanted to write the sequel and they said [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► no hell no not Martin Scorsese what does [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► he know about directing movies yeah the [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► thing that struck me is that Coppola [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► clearly peaked before any of the other [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► ones and you know it you could argue [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► that maybe he peaked with Godfather to I [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► think the conversation is a masterpiece [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► Apocalypse Now is a weird movie but I [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► think super compelling but then after [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► apocalypse now what's the best movie [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► Coppola made I mean it almost gets a bad [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► rap because there are some interesting [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► stuff in here I think Peggy Sue gets [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► married is maybe the best time travel [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► movie ever made but it's it's a little [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► sad to me because it just seems like [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► some of those other guys went on to keep [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► making masterpieces and her best work [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► was so far ahead of them um but at 1972 [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► out of that group Coppola was clearly [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► the one it was the the master of the [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► medium and this the whole sequel in a [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► prequel in one where I really I'd love [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► to know like with a stopwatch which [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► which of those gets the most screen time [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► and how close to 50/50 it is because [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► it's clearly not just a movie about [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► Michael Corleone with flashbacks to his [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► father it's it's 50/50 at least at least [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► emotionally it's 50/50 watching it this [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► time I was struck by how I felt like it [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► was really more Michael heavy than than [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► the past timeframe heavy that I they [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► would that I feel like we would get a [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► little taste of the past and then we [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► would have a long segment in the [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► president at least that's how I [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► perceived it I didn't do the stopwatch [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► thing either but it [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► little surprise because in my mental [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► space of having the last time I watched [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► this film they're absolutely [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► you know emotionally weighed fifty fifty [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► and they're they're intended to be [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► viewed that way but in in terms of the [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► runtime that was one of the things I was [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► going to say is one of the the choice to [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► make this movie in this in this format I [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► think going into it I with just my [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► memory of it and looking at the runtime [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► my thought was Coppola basically made [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► two movies and decided to interleave [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► them for production reasons for story [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► reasons I understand the that he wanted [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► to get some extra weight from the [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► juxtaposition of the of the father and [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► the son and and he said that that's the [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► reason this idea for this film even [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► happened as he wanted to make a movie [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► about a father and a son at the same age [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► and how they live their lives similarly [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► and differently so I get all of that in [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► watching it I realized that I don't [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► think I'm don't going to John's [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► referencing that complete epic cut where [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► they take all the early stuff and then [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► run the first Godfather movie and then [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► run all the later stuff in time sequence [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► instead of the way this is done I don't [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► think it come would come off as well [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► because I think I think neither of them [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► certainly the the early stuff doesn't [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► feel like it would be a complete movie [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► if you watched in an isolation it is it [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► is there it's interesting but it's also [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► really there to add a contrast or or [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► find the connections to what Michael is [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► doing yeah you have to have watched the [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► first Godfather otherwise hey why do you [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► even care about Vito and be none of the [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► things they do they'd like echo forward [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► and to you know like it it is made [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► consciously as a prequel so when they do [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► it chronological I mean it's fine if you [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► have already seen all the movies it's [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► just an interesting recutting but if [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► they just hold it that way like who is [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► this Vito guy and why do I care and [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► what's the deal with the oranges like I [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► mean you wouldn't you wouldn't put the [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► pieces I guess what I'm saying though is [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► if they had released the Godfather Part [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► two as two separate films as sort of [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► like the young Vito Corleone film and [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► the what happens after the Godfather [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► film I'm not sure the young Vito film is [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► a film I'm not there's some great stuff [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► in it but I'm not sure it tells a [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► complete story in the way that I thought [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► going in my memory told me it did [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► instead I found that that what it really [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► had was this added this incredible depth [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► to the other story I have some strong [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► feelings about the the interleaving [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► a bit and for me they're not so much to [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► movies as to narratives and the the [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► flashback to Vito stuff feels [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► emotionally you know we open on Michael [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► and then we we jump back in time it [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► feels to me like a simultaneous like [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► what he is what he is subconsciously [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► thinking about as the story is [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► progressing he is he is comparing [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► himself to his father he's trying to [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► live up to his father and he is seeing [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► his father's rise to power and you know [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► rise up from from childhood through [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► rose-colored glasses almost in a way of [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► justifying him doing everything he's [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► doing this movie he is feeling the [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► weight of his father's legacy on his [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► shoulders these many years after the the [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► narrative of the first movie and and for [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► me referring to the Godfather saga The [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► Godfather the complete epic 1901 to [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► whatever whatever those two things that [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► there was there was a TV cut that was [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► like four hundred some-odd minutes long [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► and then it was re-edited down in run [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► time but with violent scenes added that [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► weren't in the TV cut at something like [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► 300 and something minutes for video so [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► there are two completely separate like [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► six seven hour versions of this thing [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► both of them the fundamental flaw is [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► exactly what you're pointing to is that [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► there isn't a distinct separate [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► narrative going on here and it works as [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► vignettes it works in parallel to the to [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► the story of Michael effectively having [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► the the Dawn's midlife crisis where he [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► is having he's resolving his crisis of [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► conscience by couching it with well this [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► is how my father would have done all of [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► this stuff and and I know better because [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► I'm doing things dad would have the way [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► that dad would have done it because he [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► did this in this and I learned from my [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► father and my father's son and [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► historically for me it I I agree with [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► John I really I I racked my brain [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► rewatching this this week and I can't [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► think of another case where there was a [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► sequel that was at once a prequel and [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► and and did things this cleanly in in [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► either respect individually and on top [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► of that [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► like as much as the first movie is great [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► standout performance for Al Pacino this [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► is really the beginning of the Al Pacino [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► character that that persona that the way [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► that he developed himself as a screen [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► persona this is really you know the [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► first movie was the was Al Pacino [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► origins and this is Al Pacino beginning [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► to to jump straight into his prime and [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► become that guy who blows up in in anger [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► and rage and has those outbursts and [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► that that's there there are so many [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► different dimensions to to really [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► appreciate the movie on but for me it as [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► much as he got to do in the first movie [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► this really in between the two movies is [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► where I feel like he gets to do the most [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► work because we're getting to see his [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► his Lee Strasberg Actors Studio moment [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► before character work literally being [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► done as performed by Robert De Niro and [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► you know there there are a few things [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► better than having your inner monologue [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► performed by one of the great actors of [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► all time in what I think John Gruber has [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► said this on a podcast of his own and I [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► agree with it this this really the [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► nearest performance here is so [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► understated and it wants strong and [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► assured it is one of the one of the [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► standout among standouts if not the the [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► greatest performance in American cinema [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► hey Marlon ya got an opening statement [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► mmm just to bounce a little bit off what [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► bits of what everybody said I think um I [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► agree with you Jason that when I think [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► about this in my head I think of it as a [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► 50/50 split but now having watched this [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► a couple more times I an again I don't [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► have clock on this but I'm gonna come to [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► say very clearly 1959 Michael is the a [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► story in Vida a 19-7 starting whatever [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► back you know starting in the old Vida [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► stuff that that's that is the B story [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► the thing that makes a poignant though [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► and I guess kind of to what Moises said [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► I mean you can really think of the Vito [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► story being support for the Michael [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► story and you could almost imagine sort [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► of like you're saying is that like when [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► he has these ruminative moments he sit [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► in a chair and just staring into the [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► middle distance that it's almost like a [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► you know I wonder what pop would do [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► right now [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► and I think so much of the poignancy of [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► this comes out of without being too [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► on-the-nose and really some of the stuff [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► in those extended versions are a little [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► bit cute I mean you meet young Hyman [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► Roth and all that stuff it's most of its [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► that's all disposable I guess the [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► poignancy to this come I guess this [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► seems really obvious but you know Vito [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► does not know what kind of empire he's [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► going to have he's thinking in the short [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► to medium term making us really you know [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► pretty smart decisions being savvy [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► having sort of an ethical code about how [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► he works but really Vito story is about [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► somebody who starts off in this terrible [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► situation and then has a fairly [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► hard-working but somewhat meteoric [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► ascent and the poignancy to me comes out [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► of then looking at Michael at that same [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► age who is presiding and obviously this [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► began in part one but he's really [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► presiding over a very very changed [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► industry the the way we used to do [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► things is not going to work anymore [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► whether that's getting into you know [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► drugs like in Godfather one but looking [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► at these ways everything is going to [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► have to change but the same themes a [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► family and loyalty trust power those [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► things get played out in these two [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► different interlinking stories and then [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► you get those crazy long multi foot [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► dissolves between the two and it gives [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► you a moment to kind of like emotionally [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► change gears as we move between those [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► two and it's a really weird movie if you [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► really forget about watching this movie [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► for 30 40 years this is a very very [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► strange movie I think it was very [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► shocking to people at the time it came [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► out according to Wikipedia which is [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► never wrong I got a lot of mixed reviews [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► because people thought this was bananas [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► what is it who let this guy make this [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► movie this way but well the answer is [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► the first one was such a success that [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► they're like they're like alright three [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► making him do do a curb launch do [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► whatever you want and and he's on on [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► record as saying you know the first [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► movie is all about external action in [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► the second movie is all about internal [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► action it is it is this much more [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► introspective kind of film and that he [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► wanted to make guy as an art film almost [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► about a father and a son and instead he [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► just was like I'll just make the [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► Godfather Part two and have it be about [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► that it is shockingly again Merlin like [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► you were saying you know what what lives [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► in our minds versus what's on the on the [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► screen I I just the tone of it too [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► struck me as being so different from [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► the first film that is a very different [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► film in a lot of ways it is not just a [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► pickup the storyline of the first it [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► does that but that's not what the film [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► is is it's sort of surprisingly dark and [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► weird and and an arty in ways that you [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► would be you'd be surprised by I think [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► go the further the first one is much [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► more of an ensemble kind of ensemble [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► narrative and this one is much more [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► driven entirely by Michael and everybody [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► else is along for the ride I yeah it's [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► so difficult to go back and watch these [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► things you know it becomes like the Mona [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► Lisa but yeah I agree the tone the tone [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► does feel very different and it's [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► there's something I don't know I should [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► probably save this for closing rather [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► than opening but like after watching [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► this so many times I now I sit and I [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► watch that last scene you see Michael in [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► the seat it starts to fade out and it's [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► so strange to me that he is the main [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► character and this but I still don't [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► feel like I know him very well [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► it's such an accomplished performance in [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► such a such a terrific movie but it's so [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► interesting to me that Michael still is [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► a little bit of a cipher by the end of [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► this movie which I think is I don't if [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► you all agree but I think that's still [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► such a fascinating part of this is like [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► what is he thinking right now that [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► that's what's what affects me so much [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► about the the difference in tone is [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► because it is so profoundly Michael's [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► movie the getting to know him better by [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► it by by watching things in many ways [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► through his perspective pretty much [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► overriding the whole narrative he is so [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► distant and so detached and so aloof and [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► cold just ice-cold that it's it's [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► difficult to really come to the end of [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► the movie feeling like you have a more [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► profound impression of who this person [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► is than you did at the beginning of it I [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► think I did like I I think I really get [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► to know Michael Nestorian I also have [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► slightly different take on the on what [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► the the flipping back and forth between [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► the stories is showing myself see were [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► saying there was kind of like thinking [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► what his father would do or whatever the [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► way the way this movie feels to me and [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► I've seen it many times and this feeling [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► it's never gone away is that when they [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► do those those fades back to the past [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► the contrast that the movie is is [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► putting in my faces Michael's doing this [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► stuff but Michael doesn't know to the [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► degree that the flashbacks are showing [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► Michael doesn't know all that stuff sure [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► his father told him the basic story of [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► maybe how he came to America and where [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► he is but he didn't live it he doesn't [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► know he doesn't understand it he's in [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► the present day and I think he is [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► thinking about you know uh what should I [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► do [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► he has to he has to go to his mom to ask [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► is you in the situation right [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► I believe that's what he's thinking but [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► the movie switches back to say here's [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► what Michael doesn't know here's what it [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► was like for his father during this time [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► and he'd like to show you how far off [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► track Michael actually is that he [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► doesn't he doesn't understand how things [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► were for his father what his father did [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► what he was trying to do the context of [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► everything he only knows the thought his [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► father at the end sort of the empire [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► that he grew up in and the maintenance [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► thereof and the political strategy and [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► what you're supposed to do for your [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► family and like he's you know in the [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► Roman Empire as it speak which they you [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► know they they put a pin on several [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► times with the Roman Empire analogy and [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► the flashbacks are like unbeknownst to [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► Michael this is what the deal was [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► look at this person this person is not [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► like Michael Michael is so far off the [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► rails that you know he is he has [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► forgotten the face of his father to pull [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► another uh they like and that that that [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► heartbreaking is the heart brain of [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► going back and seeing Vito seeing how [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► difficult Vito a life Vito had and you [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► know how he was you know marginalized [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► and and found himself to you know make [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► his way while retaining as much of his [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► integrity and goodness as he possibly [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► could while still trying to provide and [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► also having ambition and so on so but [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► then they come back to the present and [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► you see you see just how far gone [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► Michael isn't through the whole movie he [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► plays it very cold but you his flaws are [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► expressed in the in the little things [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► that he does like you can see that the [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► need Michael has it's in the Godfather [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► Part one as well like seems like a good [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► old American boy but like there there [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► are a couple of there a couple of things [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► in his brain and things in his [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► personality that drive him to do things [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► you know that are spiteful that are evil [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► that is need for power and respect in a [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► way you know in a sort of more [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► sophisticated more angry way than Fredo [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► who also wants respects for other [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► reasons and so much of what Michael does [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► wrong in this [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► movie is driven by those flaws that his [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► father just does not have his father De [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► Niro has the easy confidence in his [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► abilities in his in his righteousness [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► and in his general goodness and Michael [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► doesn't have that all he's got is like [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► he's got a tiny devil on both of his [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► shoulders for the whole movie and every [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► time you see him like you could make [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► this right Michael he can't help but [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► like you know needle someone or stick [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► someone because they you know they [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► weren't it comes out and says at the end [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► you know I get a wipe everybody out no [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► not everybody - only my enemies um that [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► that's Michael for turns out he has a [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► lot of enemies well you know like not [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► not for long [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► I probably phrased it wrong but I my [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► notion was when we when we flash back [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► that's what he's doing but he's not he [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► doesn't he doesn't have like omniscient [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► protagonist perspective he doesn't [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► necessarily necessarily see everything [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► that we're seeing the flashbacks or it [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► could be that the flashbacks are [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► informed by by what his perspective on [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► his father's past were but we see him in [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► the present even if he does have that [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► kind of full view of what it is that [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► we're seeing when we go to young Vito [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► we're seeing all of his blind spots [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► where it you know you can you can show [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► somebody something that makes perfect [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► logical sense and then they can they can [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► go they can go forward in a way that [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► completely undermines what it is that [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► they're actually trying to accomplish [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► blind to how they're undermining [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► themselves but I think you make a very [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► good point about the kind of [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► generational loss of Godfather Godfather [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► where he were you know regardless of [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► precisely [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► you know the directorial intent or [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► precisely you know what we're supposed [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► to be gleaning from a narrative Lee we [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► were visibly seeing him just not getting [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► it in terms of the reason that his dad [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► did certain things the way that he did [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► them and it's something that you know in [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► in the theoretical third movie you know [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► we see we see even more degradation as a [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► result of that not to skip to the end [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► but I feel like you mentioned what you [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► know Merlyn mentioned like oh the last [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► scene but the last scene is not him in [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► the chair which by the way is a nice [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► echo of you know it yeah chair sitting [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► with the oranges in the first movie and [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► how you know he's completely alone as [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► grandchild [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► running our we'll talk about later but [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► the last thing in this movie is my [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► favorite flashback every time I watch it [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► somehow I forget that this thing is [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► going to be there and I always also [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► think of him sitting in the chair just [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► staring out like as the end of the week [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► it's not the end of the movie the [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► flashback they go to there is like what [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► I feel like is now let's revisit the [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► Godfather one class we've seen this [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► whole movie we've seen how this tragedy [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► has unfolded we've seen what's happened [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► here's Michael in the chair staring out [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► into the distance because you know bad [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► things have happened right and he's [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► living with the consequences now it's [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► flashback one more time let's show you [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► Michael and Godfather Part 1 he's just [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► enlisted and the guy who we couldn't get [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► to appear in this movie is going to come [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► for dinner soon so let's all get ready [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► and you know introduce Carlo to Connie [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► and and you know like The Godfather one [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► timeframe at the time we are introduced [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► to Michael and got far the one he is the [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► good boy and that movie is you know the [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► tragic roping of him into this this [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► world or whatever but we go back now [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► knowing what Michael is really like and [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► what he's going to turn into and we go [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► back to Godfather / 1 and see was that [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► stuff present in the Michael of the [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► Godfather 1 was that little like you [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► know kind of needle II [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► chip-on-the-shoulder flaw anger that was [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► totally there there he is it thinner [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► doing the right thing I enlisted because [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► I believe in America blah blah blah but [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► still a little bit you know kind of he [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► demands respect he knows what's best he [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► is a little bit full of himself he's a [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► little bit you know a little bit of an [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► upstart even though is he's not the [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► eldest brother when they all go to meet [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► their father at the door he sits there [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► silently at the table drinking his drink [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► apart from everybody else and so it's [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► like ah even then it was still there [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► like to bring I just love it because it [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► brings you back to the time when the [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► family was all there together and it [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► shows you everything you've seen unfold [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► and Godfather Part 1 and 2 was in all [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► these people from the get-go it's not as [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► if we you know introduced these [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► character traits to make stories out of [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► the movies 1 & 2 these characters you [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► know it's obviously retconning but you [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► know these these characters were these [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► characters from the beginning and these [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► people's lives played out the only [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► possible way they could with sonny the [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► hothead and Michael even then when he [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► was the good boy college student army [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► hero or whatever he was always the same [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► person and it and it makes I think it [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► clarifies the Michael of part [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► to reveal him as a character who is just [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► come into what he was always going to [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► come into with tragic circumstances that [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► trapped him in that did they really I [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► don't know the Trivium is did they [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► really try to get brando to come back [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► for that scene they did and it broke [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► down like they thought the day of they [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► were gonna get him but they just didn't [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► get the deal finalized they handled it [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► pretty well all things considered I [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► don't that scene doesn't work for me it [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► feels really hasty the scene originally [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► had him in it and they effectively had [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► to make it up on the day I love it I [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► it's like not seeing the shark in Jaws I [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► love right yeah I mean I know I just [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► it's it feels a little bit and feel a [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► little bit fanservice II to me I love [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► the way Michaels portrayed you know and [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► supposedly again according 90 be James [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► Caan demanded the fee that he got for [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► Godfather one just to appear in that [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► scene [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► good for him good for James time well [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► there were there were a lot of [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► contractual renegotiations for this one [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► like that's why we didn't get Clemenza [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► back and we got off-brand store-brand [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► Clemenza in this movie you know [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► everybody wanted their rates upped yeah [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► that's okay except Dave Vigoda 12 times [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► sake it reminded me when when you got to [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► see Sonny again it's the only thing I [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► could compare it to even though it's [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► across two movies in a couple of years [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► but it reminds me of in Pulp Fiction [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► when you get to see Travolta again and [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► it's actually like Baskaran like in a [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► hail of bullets right but then it's like [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► oh yeah remember him he died and all [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► that he pretended to punch that guy [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► other than last that last scene the [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► movie is more restrained than I then [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► then I thought it could be at in the [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► flashbacks of having it be like Francis [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► Coppola 'he's monster babies where it's [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► like i mean they do have like hey it's [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► young clemens and it's bruno kirby [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► credited is like be Kirby jr. or [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► something but it's bruno kirby and it's [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► guy he's fun as as young Clemenza but [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► III was at one point like are we gonna [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► get a parade of cameos and even with the [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► kids like they try to give us a little [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► tidbit of like the kids personalities or [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► their future when they're kids but it's [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► not overdone like I expected really like [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► oh that's Sonny he's such a hothead he's [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► gonna be in trouble and there's nothing [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► like that but if you watch carefully you [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► can see little things [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► about those kids and maybe it's just me [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► you know I so wanted to read into like [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► the future of these children because [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► you're seeing these children that you're [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► seeing as adults over here are young [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► children over here and you're like what [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► kind of a world is this person going to [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► go into what kind of a life is this [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► person going to have but like I said I [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► think the movie is very subtle at most [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► points not all points in doing that and [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► not having to just be a a parade of [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► cameos of you know young this character [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► and young that character and and I'm [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► only mentioning Bruno Kirby as young [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► Clemenza I you know lacking castellano [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► reprising his role as Clemenza bruno [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► kirby is is one of these character [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► actors who is tremendously under under [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► recognized and underappreciated if you [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► ask me and and he really for me you know [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► the the flashback scenes were fun and [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► then bruno kirby shows up and just [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► knocked it out of the park for me what [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► bring it over we where we get notes of [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► that character that we didn't even see [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► in the first movie we didn't see that [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► much of Clemenza Clemenza was like a [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► trusted lieutenant type but he didn't [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► have he didn't have a bunch of big [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► character stuff to do where in this [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► movie the Frankie character is is [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► effectively you know he shows up he's [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► like Oh old man Clements died you know [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► I'm wearing a black armband I'm the new [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► Clemenza [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► I've regenerated as me you know he gets [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► to do the stuff that that actor would [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► have gotten to do at that age but you [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► know I don't miss that as much as I as I [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► think I would have if if Bruno Kirby [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► hadn't done such a great job as young [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► Clemenza again not not making it feel [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► like Muppet Babies for gangsters that [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► you know that that for me is is what [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► what worked really well all right we [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► should probably run through the story or [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► we could just start closing statements [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► now listen let's take a quick break so I [TS]

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00:32:16 ◼   ► there's stuff that you want to talk [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► about in the section let's let's do it [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► the opening block is nine-year-old Vito [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► his dad what is it his dad has been [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► killed by the local Don his at the [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► funeral his brother who's on the run [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► because he's vowed revenge is is killed [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► at the funeral and his mother collapses [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► in a heap on the on the casket and then [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► his mother takes young Vito to the dawn [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► to demand that they be that that he be [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► spared to beg that's a demand well yeah [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► I suppose that is fair laughs my family [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► just how about how about you give me [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► this one well it's like she starts with [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► baking then she then she'd break out a [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► knife and threatens him and they shoot [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► her shoot her to death and he demands [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► that that young Vito also be killed and [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► Vito runs away and his squire day you [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► know snuck out of town on in a bag on a [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► donkey and escapes to New York where he [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► is registered as Vito Corleone on Ellis [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► Island because he says he's Vito [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► Andolini from Corleone I have decided [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► let me let me defend Don Cheech oh here [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► whatever [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► I thought his name done yeah chichi on [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► who who Kip who kills his phone he was [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► right Oh totally right I gotta work I'm [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► worried about what this kid's gonna do [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► when he grows up it's like the moms like [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► oh no don't worry he'll he'll forget all [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► about you killing his brother and his [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► father it'll be fine and the time was [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► right I mean you know in the end it [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► wasn't that bad cause he was pretty old [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► by the time he gets killed litter in the [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► movie but I just feel like you try to [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► run a crime family you you you're doing [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► everything right and just a couple of [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► sloppy henchmen and that's it for one [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► kid escapes on a donkey and you're it's [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► a joke that's it it's like that kid's [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► gonna come boomeranging back and you [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► know look at that can of olive oh oh no [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► I'm being gutted [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► can we give can we give Vito's mother [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► the mother of the Year award Wow III [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► give her I take some points away for how [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► easily the knife was removed from the [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► neck of that guy got him by the neck I [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► know you can't kill me because if you [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► kill me your son is dead you have to [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► hold the knife but is next to give your [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► son time to escape but you didn't give [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► him much time and it basically just [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► pulled your hand away and and then she [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► didn't even flee or run or cover I mean [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► let's be honest she could have gone to a [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► knife wielding class once or twice extra [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► a week yeah I'm just saying like she was [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► so she was so adamant about she's so [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► smart about hiding the knife she got the [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► knife of the guy's throat this is the [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► problem with a lot of the the you know [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► 70s movies in terms of the choreography [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► of the the fight scenes we talked about [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► in The Godfather one it just it wasn't [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► as sophisticated an art and we were okay [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► was kind of staged punches and stuff [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► like that whereas I think there's a [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► higher standard now for looking like you [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► really are strangling that person or you [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► really are pulling them towards you with [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► all your might in the back end and like [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► they were basically pantomiming I have a [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► knife at your throat but at the first [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► first movie James Caan could get away [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► with screwing up hitting a guy in the [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► face with a trashcan lid which should [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► not be that difficult but but this one [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► they really you know it had to be a bit [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► slicker yeah but but she is a great mom [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► and I loved her outfits too while she's [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► still on plan a begging begging for [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► their lives she calls his Vito [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► slow-witted yeah he doesn't get [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► everything flinch he's only 9 and dumb [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► witted he never speaks [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► he knows sitting there going she's right [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► more or less I know I don't say anything [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► um I like the AI I do appreciate and [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► it's never we [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► him running away and then we see the the [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► husband and wife putting him in the bag [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► and but they put him in the trunk of the [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► donkey yeah exactly exactly right and [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► then he goes out of town and like waves [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► at the guys who are looking or in front [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► of the church is like hey how's it going [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► and that's really good and then we cut [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► to him you know on the ship [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► in in in a harbor going Ellis Island and [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► seeing the smallpox yeah yeah and see in [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► the sea in the Statue of Liberty which [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► again you know could it be clearer about [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► the immigrant experience and he gets [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► famously as maybe didn't actually happen [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► but famously his name is miss registered [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► he's beat up or later this movie is a [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► lot to blame I think for the idea being [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► runs names got changed it yeah [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► snopes.com has a whole webpage on all of [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► this yes but most of the names that [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► people change when they came to the new [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► world were because they wanted to change [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► their names not because they were [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► changed for them accidentally but but [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► still so that's that's the first block [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► that's all we get we don't see him again [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► for a little bit and I think it's I [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► think it's really interesting because as [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► a parent I'm sitting there thinking [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► there's a nine-year-old kid who doesn't [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► speak English who has traveled halfway [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► around the world on his own to a new [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► country what's gonna happen to this poor [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► kid in his legs his legs dangling [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► dangling off the chair so sad that's the [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► best part where he gets into his little [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► tiny room which of course the room the [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► quarantine room for small box of course [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► has a literal view of the Statue of [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► Liberty which is a little artistic [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► license we're gonna put in here but what [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► does he do he takes the chair and he [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► points it towards the window and he sits [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► down at like like he doesn't have many [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► lines but how perfectly cast is that kid [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► that kid is such a great actor and how [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► did they find a kid who's so scrawny [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► like can't they just starved him for a [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► few weeks it was 1973 [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► I mean child labor laws had not come [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► into being he really transformed for the [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► role he went on the talk of the night [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► late night started and talked about how [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► he really transformed himself for the [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► role he did a Christian Bale I also want [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► to in passing want to do a shout out to [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► the whole scene one of the first of many [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► wonderful crowd scenes in this movie I'm [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► a huge fan of miner Godfather characters [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► some of the most memorable cares like [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► the guy playing the accordion the hotel [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► room and number one there's people [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► you're just never going to forget and [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► seeing that again that just I guess [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► panning shot or dolly shot of just going [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► through and somebody's playing a violin [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► and everybody's doing something it [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► doesn't look like a bunch of extras just [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► standing around they all got costumes [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► first of probably I don't know what at [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► least three of those kinds of shots [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► obviously the parade the Festa would be [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► kind of the champion here but what a [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► great bit of world-building the sepia [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► tone world that they don't cheap out on [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► Ellis Island right it is not it is fully [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► realized there is a room full of [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► immigrants who are speaking different [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► languages and all are doing things [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► there's the lady our lady who's making [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► German they're all looking at the Statue [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► of Liberty they have a big tracking shot [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► where they're all they're all their [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► faces are upturned looking the Statue of [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► Liberty each one of those faces you see [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► like what what this whole thing means [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► yeah you know no lines let a lot of [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► restraint for the dialogue here for [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► everybody again the veto doesn't say [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► anything this whole time we're like well [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► how does Vito feel about was this what [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► is he doing is he just being checked up [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► when we find out what how he feels about [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► it when he takes that chair turns [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► towards the window sits down on it and [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► his little feet start to swing anything [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► I saw singing a little song so okay [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► staring at the Statue of Liberty that's [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► that's little Vito can I just say his [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► parent of a current 13 year old how [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► completely incapable my son would be [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► totally with you I don't I'm not [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► entirely sure that I could drop him off [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► at the airport with a ticket and he [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► would get to like Italy on an airplane [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► you just draw a chalk X on his shirt and [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► put a circle around it he'll get to [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► where he's gone it's fine yeah I had the [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► exact same thought John with Garcia and [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► our sensor about similar ages and it's [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► just like I don't I don't have any [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► belief that like like he would still be [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► on the boat they just turned the boat [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► around and go back like oh here's the [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► key so playing Minecraft you just wanted [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► to see both of his parents die in front [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► of him and that were really kick him [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► into gear I guess he snapped out of it [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► you know that could be that could be [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► Hannah's brother next the next block [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► it's 1958 we're at Lake Tahoe this movie [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► a lot of it takes place around Lake [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► Tahoe this is the communion four and [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► there's a party like celebrating the the [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► Mike one of Michael's kids first [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► communion it's an echo of the wedding [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► exactly right and they have a needle it [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► outdoors and you mentioned about the [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► extras before this in my notes is where [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► I had the thing about the extras like [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► this is a party scene like the thing in [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► the first one but of course it's part [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► two so everything is scaled up look at [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► this party scene they have a complete [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► party every single guest it looks like [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► they have like there was given like a [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► backstory and a role and like mm-hmm [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► you just don't see this in movies they [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► said it's not because like they don't [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► want it like they had no other way to do [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► this and they had the budget to actually [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► do this so they're like we're going to [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► make a full party they have sick they [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► have boats time to be going through the [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► scene in the background like there's no [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► there was no CG for them to do this [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► stuff they had to stage all this thing [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► and I'm like how much must this have [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► cost and how long did it take to shoot [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► this getting all these extras to do all [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► the things they're supposed to do to be [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► in their little characters to have the [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► the motor boats and the sailboats go by [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► just at the right time and all that shot [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► at the right level of lighting and [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► everything like I'm surprised at how [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► shocked I was at that you could pull off [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► a shot like this in the days before CG [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► I'm not gonna say they would have done [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► the whole crowd in CG these days but [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► they'd be tempted to do elements of this [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► in CG but they just had no choice back [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► then so they're like human beings you've [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► done the minor and wardrobe and real [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► clothes and real actors in a tremendous [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► amount of time marshaling them in a real [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► band playing pop goes the weasel you [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► just it blows me away a lot of [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► walkie-talkies not in the movie but [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► obviously yeah okay sailboat turn back [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► around sailboat yeah we need you to do [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► that again like in the first movie like [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► I don't know if they're really good job [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► of like you know put up the casting call [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► for I mean the first movie is I put out [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► the casting call for Italian Americans [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► in here it's like a mix of the the mob [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► people and like the the Nevada sort of [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► Midwestern type people exemplified by [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► the the congressperson and all that okay [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► and the whole thing the whole scene is [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► basically a Magic Hour like there's [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► golden light and everybody's head so [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► it's like how many days did it take to [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► shoot this oh the senator we get to meet [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► here who is who is is from Nevada [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► although speaks with kind of a Texas II [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► accent he gets to introduce us to Vito [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► Carly Harley on yeah and which he [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► intentionally mispronounces Corleone's [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► later later he says it correctly to show [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► that he can and and we also meet [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► potentially right who who is uh who is [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► angry because the Rosato brothers are [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► banks are pushing well yeah but there's [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► a lot of brothers you're pushing on this [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► territory and they work with Roth I got [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► to do something about it but of course [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► Michael has but got a deal with Roth to [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► do the to do the casino and so they [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► gotta like you got a not not act against [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► and that's we have the kind of an [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► immediate conflict that happens and of [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► course then this block also ends with a [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► Michael admiring a crayon drawing of of [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► himself in a car made by his son do you [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► like it check yes or no which is very [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► sweet [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► until the hail of bullets through the [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► window sweet and very tragic because [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► even like here's the thing like it seems [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► sweet like oh the kid is making a nice [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► picture for his dad but the picture he's [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► making is not a good reflection of a [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► working relationship now check yes or no [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► box is a desperate plea attention [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► communication from his father and so [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► like you feel like Michael looks at it [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► and is proud of his son's rendition but [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► also recognizes is also smart enough to [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► recognize that this is not healthy how [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► great was Frank Pentangeli at acting [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► drunk at that party I I was when I was I [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► don't I don't know how much he was [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► acting I don't know either but I do [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► think as it's just one of those things [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► that it seems like it's very hard to get [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► right it's I think it's hard to act [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► inebriated I do I think it often comes [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► across as phony even from otherwise good [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► actors and boy it just really he just [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► acts like exactly what a you know [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► Michaels older cousin from from the New [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► York would act like she gets the hose [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► outside I love my drinks in the hood I [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► do I love cuz that's such an such a like [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► a thing that like you know kids do you [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► know like drink from the hose in the [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► summer and just like he gets a little [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► drunk he just reverts to his normal ways [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► he's pissed off about the about the hors [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► d'oeuvres and the crappy West Coast food [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► and he's drinking kids he wants to get [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► into Michael you know there's probably [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► an outtake somewhere where he just [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► decided to take a leak against a tree [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► just just because another one of these [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► characters that just shows up fully [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► formed I mean it seems like this feels [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► like the final season of a show where [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► he's been playing that character for six [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► years yeah yeah yeah oh and and the [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► there's so much parallelism in this [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► movie to the first movie and for me him [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► doing a great job playing drunk which [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► again [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► not not an easy thing to do well is [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► something that that for me mirrors at [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► the at the wedding in the first movie [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► John Cazale playing Fredo again doing a [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► great job playing drunk which people [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► don't generally do well and playing a [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► particular kind of drunk who is gonna [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► you know take his his uh his younger [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► brother's girlfriend by the face and [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► kiss her on the cheek and just stare at [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► her and not say anything because he's [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► drunk out of his out of his gourd there [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► there those little touches throughout [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► this scene that go back to the wedding [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► scene of the of the first movie not you [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► not the same characters doing the same [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► things but a lot of the same notes a lot [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► of the same kind of misbehavior a lot of [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► the same kind of embarrassment and and [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► that sort of thing in tree introducing [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► us to Fredo and to Connie also needs to [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► happen here you need to get the [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► geography the family together just like [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► in that first movie you see how Connie [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► has changed and how Fredo hasn't yeah [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► like they're like it's not like the [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► first movie you have to introduce 100 [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► characters which is this amazing feat [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► that they pull off in that one party [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► scene but this does fulfill the same [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► rule of setting up the plot there are [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► fewer moving pieces here Michael is in [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► his father's seat inside the darkened [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► room indoors taking meetings but not so [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► many meetings and we do know a lot of [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► these characters are ready so it's it [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► sets up a console yep aunt Angela [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► you got the congressman you know the bee [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► senator the Senators all right the [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► senator these the Italians are not [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► welcome in Nevada that whole scene where [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► where the senator points the little [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► candidate is desk at him and makes all [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► these threatening demands or whatever [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► like and Michael comes back in his [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► typical way you could have mine [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► answering the hell if you'd like like [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► this that's it's very different than the [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► equivalents in the first movie but if [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► this fails the same function just to set [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► up the set up the conflicts that are [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► going to play off the rest of the movie [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► there's a I think that it's it it it [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► succeeds so well as a scene overall all [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► the way from daytime to nighttime and in [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► setting the sort of theme which we [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► already talked about that Michael has [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► sort of become unmoored he sort of lost [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► his bearings as as a human being in a [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► way that Vito never did write that [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► that's but the story of the movie that [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► Vito had like a moral core that Michael [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► doesn't and I feel like the [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► as to the wedding in the first movie [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► with this is that the wedding and the [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► first one they were where they were [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► supposed to be there in New York the [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► band is a bunch of paisans who can you [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► know play these songs and and when [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► Pentangeli goes up there and tries to [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► get him to you know bottle pop but up [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► but up but in another and any so good at [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► it but those guys it's just the fact [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► that the band doesn't know what to do [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► yeah it just shows like this isn't [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► they're not where they're supposed to be [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► they're nowhere like Michaels move the [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► family to like it's not the wrong place [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► but it's not the right place beautiful [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► as the backdrop is of of Lake Tahoe you [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► know in winter and in summer where we [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► see in both in both places here it [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► you're absolutely right it feels wrong [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► like why are we here what are we doing [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► out here and the band just puts the [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► finest point on it that they are they [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► are way away from their roots in so many [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► ways going into the casinos which is you [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► know away from the roots of the [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► businesses that that Vito was involved [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► with leaving New York being in Nevada of [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► all places it just it feels wrong the [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► whole way through its be a beautiful [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► backdrop but it doesn't it doesn't feel [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► right a lot echoes from this movie [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► forward into Goodfellas one of them [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► getting back to what we talked about [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► earlier is the well we'll get to when we [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► get to the section with video and [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► realizing like what what the Mafia was [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► when Vito arrived in New York and the [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► reflection in Goodfellas where they come [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► right on site it's like the police for [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► wiseguys they can't go to they can't go [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► to the police they need someone else to [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► Dino so that that thing but in this one [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► it's the you know the band is wrong and [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► the food is wrong it's whatever was like [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► liver on Ritz crackers try to tell them [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► you know that it was a canopy or [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► whatever that's egg noodles and ketchup [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► right it's the same thing where Ray [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► Liotta is is fish-out-of-water taken out [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► of his element and put somewhere else [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► and he gets egg noodles and ketchup when [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► he s4 we get any meatballs and it does [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► feel wrong but it also feels like we [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► remember the first movie not that they [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► were on the run so much but they The [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► Five Families thing went down and they [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► had to get out of there like it was like [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► one big final triumphant also a shift [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► West and there's money in casinos and [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► he's built this fortress for himself [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► he's built this giant palace and [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► fortress even bigger than his dad's set [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► up everything is beautiful there's tons [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► of people but there [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► not wanted here it's very clear and yeah [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► they everybody the everybody seems out [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► of place even to like his bodyguards [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► which look less Italian than the people [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► who were guarding him in the first movie [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► or certainly the people that were [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► guarding him in Italy yeah the guy that [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► connie's brought home is is some you [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► know curly-headed dude a Merle I mean I [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► mean who wants to hang out with a guy [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► named Merle anyway both like oh my god [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► the way the way Michael talks about him [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► right I know it just savage and that's [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► that's one of the great I think it's one [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► of the great laugh lines that is the be [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► in the movie you know if you know if you [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► don't listen to me and marry this man [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► big long poems big long pause but [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► address after we had seen him like did [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► the confrontation with the center at [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► everything you'll disappoint me ice-cold [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► but also somewhat funny because they're [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► all waiting for with what terrible thing [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► is gonna happen and Connie like she is a [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► mess she is falling apart you know [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► lively after the events of the first [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► movie yeah she's she's like you know got [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► sores on her faces like what do you mean [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► I have a math problem you know she's [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► she's really out of sorts and just does [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► not get how out of sorts is everything I [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► mean everything is wrong right that's [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► basically the message of the scene it is [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► this intricate scene that sets up the [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► story but it also just gives you the [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► sense especially if you're coming in [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► remembering the first movie you're like [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► wow this is not like this is not good [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► people are in in bad bad places here and [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► this begins the movie the the one other [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► bit about the the chess pieces on the [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► board that I wanted to make mention of [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► you know we mentioned Hyman Roth which [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► is you know Meyer Lansky with a [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► different name there's something from [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► the first movie that wasn't mentioned on [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► on the episode you guys did on the first [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► one that I wanted to call out here which [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► is the character Johnny Fontaine which [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► is basically Frank Sinatra or not even [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► basically just is supposed to be Frank [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► Sinatra to the extent that Francis Ford [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► Coppola was persona non grata with with [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► Sinatra with Sinatra's people with the [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► people that Sinatra was attached to in a [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► dangerous sense just for that character [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► existing in the first movie you know [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► we've got we've got a doubling down on [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► the real-life corruption involving [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► people like Meyer Lansky you know [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► further underlines the fact that Moe [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► Greene was was the Bugsy Malone type [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► before before mo got taken out in the [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► first movie and and that that whole [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► thing they they do anything but run away [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► from it because I mean they move them [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► out west but they they really you know [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► they're there I guess you could say that [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► they could have been more disrespectful [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► of lansky you know then cast somebody of [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► the enormous stature of Lee Strasberg [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► but it it definitely sets up that that [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► they are they are not shying away from [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► from any of that stuff that that brought [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► them out west right so the next [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► flashback block is with Robert De Niro [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► now as young Vito Corleone he's he's [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► married Sonny has already been born he [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► works at a at a grocery in Little Italy [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► this is one of those moments that I was [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► thinking about when I was thinking about [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► where we left him and how is this kid [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► gonna survive in the United States he [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► doesn't even speak English and this is [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► the answer is that there's a whole [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► community of Italians in New York and [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► they they have Italian groceries and [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► they all speak Italian and that's where [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► he is and that's how he is able to [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► presumably make it to this point of [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► being a young man who's married with a [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► son unfortunately he does lose his job [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► at the at the grocery store because Don [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► fanucci needs his uh near to well cousin [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► needs a job and so and which leads to a [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► very sweet scene where the guy who runs [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► the grocery is very sad that he has to [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► get get rid of Vito and wants to give [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► him a box of groceries he runs out on [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► the street and gives it tries to give to [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► him any betta refuses him he doesn't not [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► doesn't refuse Don fanucci because that [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► would be unwise but he just feel really [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► bad about Vito's meat losing Vito's job [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► and then and then yeah Bruno Kirby [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► invites him to go visit a friend's house [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► where they steal a rug I like the idea [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► that his wife would love a rug like it [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► really brings home like the yes there is [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► community there but they're all very [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► poor that the kids living conditions are [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► not great they don't have a rug they [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► would like to have a rug but who can [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► afford a rug I noticed it this time for [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► the very first time there's one of the [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► things I picked up first time I noticed [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► it was just how ill-fitting the rug was [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► in their house because it was too [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► it's actually it's actually like a [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► couple of inches too big so it's curled [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► up at the sides just a little bit it's [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► just ever so slightly too big for the [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► room whereas in the room they stole it [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► from it was just a little a little rug [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► and a throw rug in the center of the [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► room it's a nice little touch how much I [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► love the scene it's such a subtle it's [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► so subtle but it's so perfectly played I [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► just love the scene where as the [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► grocer's trying to fire Vito and Vito [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► just heats eat he says I say again I [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► know exactly what's going on it's easy [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► don't worry you have to you know it's [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► okay you have to get rid of me well it [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► makes you realize what a good guy Vito [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► is like we know him as the scary [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► Godfather and he's like I understand how [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► this works it's fine I don't want your [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► stuff you don't need to give me the box [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► you just you've been good to me all [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► these years and I'll remember points to [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► his head mm-hmm yeah the super-chill [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► enlightened Buddhist Godfather where [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► he's completely unflappable he's like [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► this is only a thing and this is the [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► thing that has happened business and now [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► life continues he's a you know I I know [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► that it's sort of a good ad the good [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► father's good good fellows as a [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► counterpart to the Godfather is sort of [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► the and Scorsese's even scented that [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► none of these guys are good guys and if [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► there's a problem with the Godfather [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► movie it's that the God you know Vito [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► Corleone is sort of he is he's a good [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► guy he's you can't you know he's a crime [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► boss he does immediately go to murder as [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► a solution for the situation you never [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► he never kills anybody in either movie [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► who doesn't deserve it [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► well you know it's a culture that's what [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► all sure that would all criminal [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► masterminds think John does he have your [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► family you can tell us like there's no [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► way that he would know you can tell us [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► right now he never kills anybody it [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► doesn't deserve it he's a good you know [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► he's a good man he has a sense of [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► justice essentially present he doesn't [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► he has an ethos now John John you're [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► doing you're doing the Senators defense [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► from later in the movie Vito Corleone [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► right now fine Italian is a decently [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► landing citizen no but I think that's [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► the contrast to Michael and it's it's [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► that he it through in both movie he [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► doesn't have insecurities he doesn't [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► have internal flaws that caused him to [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► externalize his his internal yeah okay [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► let me jump in here because that's the [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► way it was was gonna almost bring this [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► up with pent Angela but one thing I got [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► on this last watching is you know [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► obviously with the first vlog could [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► anybody be cooler than Robertson [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► in this movie no no Robert DeNiro [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► running across the roofs is just it's [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► it's so glorious but yeah I mean they're [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► setting him up as having an ethos you [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► see you see Michael there's a certain [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► kind of I almost want to say stoicism I [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► don't know if that's the right word but [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► there's a certain one reason people get [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► in trouble in these movies is that they [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► have a vulnerability that is not offset [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► by their usefulness and I think that's [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► something that both of the Godfather's [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► really pick up on is there's certain [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► kinds of problems [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► vulnerabilities hang-ups addictions weak [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► spots there's things that you can put up [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► with but if you cross them the net [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► vulnerability is going to be exposed in [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► a way that's going to be very very ugly [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► for you or you might just get killed and [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► it's there it's there the way that they [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► keep things play things so close to the [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► chest I mean there's anybody in these [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► movies who is a hothead you know is a [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► sunny type character or is somebody who [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► has sometimes people with addictions [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► these are the people who become a [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► problem and then they have to be dealt [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► with it's it's its ETSU I guess I'm [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► skipping ahead a little bit but then [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► there's there's the scene where the guy [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► his wife says you know sends her friend [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► over the landlords kicking her because [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► of her doll because the dog I like [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► there's like the kind of things that the [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► Godfather was dealing with in the [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► beginning it was mostly dog related [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► issues mrs. Columbo the idea that he [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► that it's not just being a criminal [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► right he's he's they're kind of like [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► he's like the played police for people [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► can't go to the place that's right he's [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► the neighborhood you know guy who will [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► help make things right he still uses [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► less rhodium and he'll use his leverage [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► to do what is what is necessary and he [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► does the Godfather thing because he goes [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► immediately he's not like oh we do such [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► a good guy he's gonna help ugly with dog [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► first thing he says is what do you want [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► me to Vaughn do is a dog what's what do [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► you want what he want me to do better [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► than that that's part of his schtick is [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► you know you come to me with this thing [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► like what's you know an event he he [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► wants to have his respect baby that's [TS]