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00:01:12 ◼ ► birmingham the axis of time trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► weapons of choice is the first book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/75">TS</a>]
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00:01:28 ◼ ► actually think there are a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/88">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► that could spoil these these books it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/89">TS</a>]
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00:01:39 ◼ ► don't i don't think you'd be spoiled so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/99">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► we're gonna go try to go a little light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/101">TS</a>]
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00:01:58 ◼ ► let me introduce our panelists as always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/118">TS</a>]
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00:02:03 ◼ ► them you've missed him because he hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/123">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► hello Jason it's good to be back other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/126">TS</a>]
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00:02:57 ◼ ► so okay John birmingham access of time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/177">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► read all three of these books because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/180">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► read the first one I thought oh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/183">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► in the end i kinda wanna he want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► where this goes goes next Scott did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/187">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► read all three i did read all three as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/190">TS</a>]
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00:03:18 ◼ ► weren't enough Nazis in the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/198">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► no but there was the promise not see but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/199">TS</a>]
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00:03:27 ◼ ► of weapons of choice did you read you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► read the whole thing did you get through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/209">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► most of it I got through most of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/210">TS</a>]
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00:04:12 ◼ ► is a combination of first off we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/252">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► say military fiction and sci-fi in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/255">TS</a>]
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00:04:28 ◼ ► then there's a lot of nuts and bolts I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► got almost tom clancy kind of vibe from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/270">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► some of it there's a lot of dwelling on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/272">TS</a>]
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00:05:22 ◼ ► yeah yeah I mean I red red red october [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/322">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► Institute press yeah how early and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► read that and then started reading red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/328">TS</a>]
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00:05:44 ◼ ► know eventually he comes tom clancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/344">TS</a>]
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00:05:55 ◼ ► eventually he'll become Pope and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/355">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► soon become like the Emperor flown over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► relaxing eclectic Empire yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/358">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► Scott what about you I'd read that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► I ready for Red October yeah and i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/364">TS</a>]
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00:06:28 ◼ ► call this military science fiction in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/388">TS</a>]
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00:07:01 ◼ ► and as scientists sometimes do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/421">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► screw it up and the entire battle group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/425">TS</a>]
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00:07:24 ◼ ► that's about to go meet a japanese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/444">TS</a>]
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00:07:33 ◼ ► the Battle of Midway yeah I so we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► this so so what we originally think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/455">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► this sort of futuristic military stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/458">TS</a>]
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00:08:06 ◼ ► these books were written a while ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/486">TS</a>]
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00:08:28 ◼ ► like thirty percent using kindle terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► thirty percent of the book how many dots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► that yeah it's lots of dots and and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/512">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► was something we were talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► morning because he tried to he tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► read this and and was struggling with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► and I honestly I was struggling with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/521">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► beginning of this book is not really my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/524">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► cup of tea it is a lot of technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/525">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► detail about about ships and armaments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/526">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► like a what if a 21st century naval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/532">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► battle group attacked a world war two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/535">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► naval battle group how badly would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/538">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► destroy those chips and we see that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/540">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► I that stuff didn't that this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/543">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► didn't interest interest me at all it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► was after the shooting stopped and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/548">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► cultures had to meet that the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► started to get interesting for me i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/555">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► interested what you guys thought at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/557">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► beginning of the book when when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► really talking more about technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► than we were talking about culture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► well that's the idea that's what took me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► so long in the beginning was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► going oh this is this isn't tom clancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/568">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► it's maybe Larry bond level of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/571">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► not quite being Tom Clancy and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► keeps going and going and going in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/577">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► are these names and all these things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► I mean certain things like naming a ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► the USS Hillary Clinton yes that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/584">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► going to happen by 2021 and so things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► like that would take me right out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/590">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► this book was written into the timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/591">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► of this book hillary clinton was elected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/594">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► president in 2008 and assassinated at at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/596">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► a later time umm alright so it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/601">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► ok so yes it's like I said it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► diverged a little bit from our our world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► already but you know you were you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► okay with the wormhole transporter them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► back to nineteen forty-two but the USS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/616">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► yeah well because it's it's presented as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/620">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► absolutely realistic kind of thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► we're trying to set up and I just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► couldn't get into that but but part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► it was just the over-reliance on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► technology as soon as it started dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► with human beings dealing with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► another and getting interesting that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► like oh yeah okay um it's like you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► remember the the whisper drive of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► Red October I the thing that stuck with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► me was I only wanted to see Nebraska [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/647">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► oh yes you know it was the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/650">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► responded with Montana which is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► more interesting man Brasel I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► always wanted to see Montana oh sam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/660">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► 200 for Red October by the way Sam Neill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► doesn't make it but he would have liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► to have seen Montana well who wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/670">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► yeah no interest but yeah it'sit's once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► once the book really started to focus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/676">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► the humans that was like okay and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/679">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► the differences but you know the culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/682">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► clash between the 21st century in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► 1940s right and that's why I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/685">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► wanting to continue in reading the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/690">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► of them because i would hope there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/691">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► more of that and and the promise of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/693">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► Nazis yes Scott did you you know did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/696">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► well i-i've read a not an insignificant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► amount of military science fiction which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/706">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► is all about weapons systems exactly at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/709">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► legendary future weapons systems it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/714">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► usually it is a human's killing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► sort of alien in in many inventive ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/719">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► so I was kind of I knew it was familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/723">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► to me and I've also know that people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/726">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► are you know obsessed with World War to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► assess about the various armaments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/731">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► you know classifications of ships so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► had it both ways right he had future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/739">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► stuff that he could talk about then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► has were actual world war two things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► some of the characters from the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► arguments which I thought was a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► time and our building like have built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/750">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► models of the ships that they're reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/752">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► in the Rye excited about it so I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► I mean I read it very quickly and i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/757">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► not dislike it and I didn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► problem with the USS Hillary Clinton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/762">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► because i like Hillary Clinton hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/763">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► anybody she's very clear as it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► along that she was she was the president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► in this scenario and his men women and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► was wasn't homeless assassinated and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► they made her and bombed many countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► apparently too so they made her the it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► yeah yeah it was um also for a blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► Australian as well novelist but uh lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/784">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► of equal time for the Australians and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► for the English and for the Americans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► which I thought was interesting but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► but the part of this that thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► makes this book and it's the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/796">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► action is then we meet the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► and the characters again their military [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/801">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► people there are some of the measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/804">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► sort of interesting the the the Admiral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/807">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► who's in charge of the future battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► group is is kind of an interesting guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► and they're the subcommander the British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/814">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► subcommander whose of I think Pakistani [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/815">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► descent is an interesting character but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► what's most interesting is actually did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► the cultures I mean that that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/823">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► the story this book is for these books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/824">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► is the culture clash and I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► was by far the most interesting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► and was really fascinating the idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/831">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► it's really positing is how much our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/834">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► societies you know a have changed in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/838">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► this time and yes sure into 10 or 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/842">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► years into the future how end what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/845">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► really happen if somebody from nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/848">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► forty America or you know or England or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/851">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► Australia ran into certain somebody with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► the values and beliefs of of somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► from the 21st century and we think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/859">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► those people as being are there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/862">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► ancestors and they're like us in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► they're on our side and they're from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/865">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► country but i thought this book was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/866">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► really great great and unflinching about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/869">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► the fact that it would be kind of rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► because there would be racism and sexism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/874">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► and you know you name it we were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/878">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► about an integrated both racially and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/881">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► gender military and the 21st century [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► it's a professional integrated military [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► and in world war two it's a segregated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/889">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► ugliness of that collision is dealt with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/895">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► in the story and I thought I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► was really nice and thought-provoking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► and challenging to say you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/902">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► not going to be one of those hey it's us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/904">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► instead it's like oh crap uh why do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/909">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► why do you have black people and women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/913">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► on your ships you people are awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► obviously the future is a terrible place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► and the people from the from the 21st [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► century like who are these idiots these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/920">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► racist idiots these are the guys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► saved the world and they both you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► and it's not one-sided because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/927">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► there's also this you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/929">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► the there's some questions that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/932">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► world war two people raised about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► about our culture and after decades of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/936">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► what is identity great our culture so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► thought that was really the best part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► yeah and I thought it was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/945">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► that he made the the task force from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/945">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► future is a multinational task for right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/949">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► soldiers from Germany on the the boats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► which could cause some trouble with use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/957">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► keyboard back to nineteen forty-two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/960">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► could be could be some some trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/961">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► yes they're not as popular no mia with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/964">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► no no but the culture clash I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► you guys thought I mean I I it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► it'sit's there's some really ugly things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/973">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► that happen and up to and including a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/976">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► japanese scientists sailor guy and a and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► a black i think a gay black woman who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/985">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► murdered horribly but also there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► a lot of really kind of unpleasant back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► and forth in the and the the black and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/994">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► and and women characters especially get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/997">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► a lot of abuse and I you know I again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► just I thought it was it was great to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► see that portrayed that way because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► was so unflinching about how society is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► as has changed in the intervening time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► oh yeah i mean that that was definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► the most interesting thing to me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► because it's also something we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► seen before in this kind of a story I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► mean yeah you've got traveling back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► time you've got alternate history but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► you know I mean maybe what's what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► joke in the city on the edge of forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► when spots hat comes off and someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► sees his ears know he he's asian indica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► my friends obviously Chinese he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► caught his ears got caught in a race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► picking machine it's like okay well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► but you know that's Captain Kirk saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► hey we're in the nineteen thirties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► everybody's horribly racist here I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► just use horribly racist things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► it'll totally getting off scot-free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► scot-free being also racist about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► people from Scotland but Scotty's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► so let's just be racist and nobody will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► notice that's that's what get backers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► yeah in the star trek in that Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► future they stamped out racism but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► sexism they still had some trouble with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► yes well you know it wasn't one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► time exactly right i was just a two out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► of three isn't bad but I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► the second one was but anyway money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► yeah sure bunny we stamped out money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► sure sure i don't so i thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► the the 1942 contemporary people the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► lot is obviously hate the Germans and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► the the Japanese the Japanese think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► the Germans obviously think that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► know painting in broad strokes here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► the Germans think everyone is its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► inferior to them the future people kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► of are taking well these 1942 people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► yeah everybody is kind of thinking I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► the best and everyone should just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► obviously fall in line with me and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► rest get out of the way there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► tension between all of that you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► world war two people attempts i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► they end up calling for contemporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► suppose that the 21 the 21st the we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1133">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► think about this this these books also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► something about how we think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► history right i mean that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► things that all history does you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► about history and how it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► different but also you know we flattened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► world war two to be there were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► Allies they were good they were all for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► you know goodness over the axis who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► you know again the the not season and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► taking Jews and and gays and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► killing them all that they are the bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► guys right except that that's what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► 21st century people have to face when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► they go back in time is oh these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► they're just less bad than those guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► who are really bad and then also one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► the things is fascinating is is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► are several examples where there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► facts that are known and and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► early days of the incursion into in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► back in time they they're like ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► they're these horrible horrible things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► happening there's the the Bataan Death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► March is happening right there these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► awful treatments of civilian prisoners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► and meanwhile the Holocaust is going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► and people from the 21st century like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► you need to do something to stop this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► and you know in hindsight with history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► we can be like well you know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► had to fight a war and they didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► what was going on but what this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► says is if you told them what was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► on they would still be like sorry we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► not gonna do anything about that we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► to fight the war not rescue civilians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► and so that there's that whole conflict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► that i thought was really fast today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► we're like you should do something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► this and Churchill and Roosevelt and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► like are like yeah now we got out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► Anjali it's really yeah we'll get to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► I thought that was really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► bedridden and then so the the 21st [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► terrorism and I don't know if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► really comes up in the first book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► they have very different tactics then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► the contemporary people do which becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► very clear in later books when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► doing their they're addressing certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► atrocities with them and vigor and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1255">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► the valley and people are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► thinking what are returning we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► turning into the the kind of savagery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► that we're fighting right there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► there's this um that's what definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► commentary in the in the book is is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► that that's where we turn the tables is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► the easy comparison is boy we've come a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► long way since back then and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► flips around and you see from the eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► like there's the one character who's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► contemporary guy who falls in love with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► the woman who's the new york times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► reporter from the 21st century and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► you know we see through his eyes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► contemporaries are kind of horrified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► with the you know how kind of like crew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► dandruff culture is and how there's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► less it seems like almost horror they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► like so jaded about about about war and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► about acts of violence and uh seeing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► challenging what we're becoming and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► Japanese soldiers who were crashing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► their planes and all these things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► are these horrible dishonorable evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► things and yet you know they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► fighting a war on terror for 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► there you know prepared to commit sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► of like Battlefield atrocities because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► they've got a particular code that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► it you know these guys are guilty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► this you just kill him just so summarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► execute them on the battlefield which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► yeah great I i love it when when science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► fiction especially can do that make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► and turn the tables like that we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► of a sudden there was some moment I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► think it was with the with the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► is dating the woman from the new york [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► times where i was suddenly was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► because i had seen I so starting to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► them through his eyes and and what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► be the horror of somebody from nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► forty seeing these people think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► what we save the world for is these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► yeah true and that's what I think raises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► this series he's a capable writer but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► think that his is playing with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► culture and kind of turning you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► making people think about our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► re-examining the past makes it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► rises it above kind of everyday all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► history crap every day every alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► day everywhere all right de-evolve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► alright let's take a brief break move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► universe back into our real universe so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► i can tell you about our sponsor its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► enthusiastic about sci-fi or fantasy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► books or movies or TV or any of the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► of things we cover on the incomparable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► have a question for you which is are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► enthusiastic about coffee there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► lot of people who are very enthusiastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► enthusiastic about the things we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► tonks is a subscription service for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► they have great beans that they find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► they roast the coffee themselves in Los [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► Angeles and then they ship out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► coffee the next day within 24 hours it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► gets shipped out fresh roasted coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► tastes much better than the steel coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► you're going to find in grocery stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► or cafes they ship it to you and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► two weeks later they should be some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► so your coffee is always fresh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► they're doing the roasting themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► and its source from all over the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► and it talks goes even beyond that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► have an editor-in-chief they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1464">TS</a>]
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00:25:25 ◼ ► you owe it to yourself to give this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► try and see if you might want to convert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► from being somebody who has those old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► beans stuck away somewhere in your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► to fresh roasted beans every two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1534">TS</a>]
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00:25:43 ◼ ► sponsoring the incomparable so the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► travel aspect of this I also really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► liked because the way he handled so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► time travel stories we see especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► movies or TV shows are about its the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► back to the future model right it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► oh I'm back in time I need to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► that I don't step on any butterflies or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► whatever and then get because I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► get back to my home time and I the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► rules of this of the of these books are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► pretty straightforward and again it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► seems ridiculous to say this is how time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► travel would actually work but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► like this is how time travel would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► actually work which is they go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► this wormhole and essentially they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► creating a parallel universe by uh by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► changing the course of history by their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► presence and everybody accepts pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► quickly the fact that they're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► going to get back especially since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► technology and it was destroyed they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► never going to get back there here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► there's no way home and from the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► history is irrevocably changed and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► minute that passes after their arrival [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► that what they know for sure about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► what's going on in this world is a is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► fading away and is diverging because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► their presence has changed the course of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► the future and i like that that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► book embraces that and says no no this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► is there's no good there's not gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► any shenanigans of like we're going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► we're not gonna have a you know sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► cheats about what we know everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► that's going to happen so we can fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► in fact it makes it more complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► because Hitler and everybody in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► Japanese command they get access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► these feature histories and say oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► I'm not going to do that and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► changes which is great it's true and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► that's I thought was interesting when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► they first come they realize that fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► quickly the the people from the 21st [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► century they're like okay we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► really act on this information right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► because we have a small window in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► our records are exactly right so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► make some decisions right now and change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► yeah they've got their web cache or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► whatever of some basic information you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► know they've got they've got a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► information for the 21st century and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► trip down to the weather there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► really nice moment where the I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► it's in the first book where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► noticed that the weather is not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► they're recorded weather was in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► we've done so much to change things now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► that not even the weather is the same as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► we thought it would be like a we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► completely off the track and then I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► first book ends I without it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► major spoiler the first book ends with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► the Axis powers essentially realizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► that they need to make some changes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► what their strategy is based on because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► they know they're going to lose right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► mean the the you know Hitler knows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► he's gonna commit suicide in a bunker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► and and Japan High Command knows they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► gonna have two of their cities nuked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► even the the Allies even the Soviets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► know that the Soviet Union is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► fall and Stalin isn't gonna like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► very much and so everybody is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► which leads to you no more divergence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► meanwhile i guess for the fans of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► everybody's like hey those are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► cool tools you've got there maybe we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► could knock the rock goes off so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► know there's that too a lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► going on but I like that we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► taking time to worry about going back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► you know back to the 21st century [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► it's never going to happen and everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► kind of accepts that that that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► not going to go down that path it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► never gonna happen they're stuck in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► parallel universe Einstein appears at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► one point basically talks to talk to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► the Admiral and and says you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► world is very close to us but but you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► never get there because it's in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► parallel universe Thank You ensign the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► Einstein Kenya then they ran into Spock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► prime and you know it is it it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► yeah both things are very clever ways of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► taking of creating a parallel universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► without negating the other universe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► previous one right you know like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► movies could have just completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► negated the entire next generation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► all that but they didn't they found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► way around that and still did a reboot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► and that's one of the things i like here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► too is that I I i love that the focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► isn't on let's get back or let's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► change anything it's it's let's see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► would happen if you have this dropped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► here and now if this puzzle pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► shifted what would this too and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► what would this doing over this too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► it's that sort of domino effect of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► of these things that have changed so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► again that's the I am I reading the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► two books is very plausible because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► yeah even the you know even the legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► issues that come up for fascinating it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► like who who owns this technology who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► what about 21st century laws who's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► that what's the chain of command these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► American ships are from the america of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► the 21st century so you know they who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► have a report to where their loyalties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► lie do they want to run the world the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► 21st century people do they want to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► take orders from from macarthur and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► from President Roosevelt who a boob also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► they use some advanced medical scanning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► equipment to put off his his death to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► extend his life a little bit which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► also really like like things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► what about intellectual property i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► in the second book there's this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► question of like all the movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► intervening 75 years are now available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► presumably those stars like you know now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► that they find Elvis is a little boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► inside into a contract which actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► happens in one of the future books it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► just a little throwaway kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► but there's all of that too it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► what happens to this culture where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► you know it's not just that these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► people have been dropped in 75 years in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► the past it's like literally all music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► and art and all books and all movies for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► the next 75 years have just been dropped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► on this side society which I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► imagine would cause a huge upheaval and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► culture that we we don't see a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► mostly because the world at war and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► everybody's kind of distracted but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► get the hint that there are references [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► listening to ac/dc and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► everything is really messed up now well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► which I but it's fun and I enjoyed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► that it was trying to play through all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► the ramifications of this clash of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► cultures and and it's not all just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► of like wouldn't it be cool if it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► well maybe not because and then try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► get all of that while still having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► who with with with where everybody has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► for knowledge and some people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► advanced weaponry that's running out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► another detail that I like along those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► lines they were talking about one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► books one of the characters made like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► offhand comment about their salary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► how like a captain on the the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► ship makes more money than the president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► does in this current time right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► they had to figure out how to pay these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► people and what do they just get with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► their salary should be or is it to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► to adjust for inflation or deflation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► expose right right all while counting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► how many magic drones and bullets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► missiles they've got left before they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► run out and I kept thinking about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► their iPads and this book was written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► before the ipad but they're called flexi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► pads so they're almost iPads and I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► thinking you keep using that thing going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► to drain the battery and you can get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► replacement battery pretty soon it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► going to be hooked up to the AC power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► all the time he did he did mention that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► the battery recharges itself by the heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► of holding it in motion yeah it's magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► attack it'll last for a while just work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► but I like that too that you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► gonna end up with these I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► there's some scenes where they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► taking planes from the aircraft carrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► and and rather than flying they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► taking them and disassembling them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► they can like document but how they work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► because you're going to end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► these are the these are the only things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► that they can use to try and bootstrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► better technology coming out of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► 1940 because they've got these examples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► but I'll in a lot of cases the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► supply chain isn't there it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► lucky if you have an iphone still exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► right if you have an iPhone and you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► back in time to 1945 you can't even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► you bring your charger with you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► were smart enough to carry your charger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► in your pocket in case you fell through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► a wormhole and ended up in 1948 could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► happen which I did they couldn't make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► iphone in 1940 because they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► factories to make it I you know none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► that is possible and they run into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► here too which I thought was a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► touch that it's not easily replicable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► stuff it's that it's that old thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► about how you know if the world's if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► there was an apocalypse we couldn't all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► just sort of like remake our technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► from here today because we would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► bootstrapped on all these other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► that are would be gone so I like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► like that aspect of it to that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► that there you know they can't make more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► of their whatever crazy fusion bombs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► because they don't have they can't it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► take 30 years for them knowing knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► the answer they'll still take 30 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► to figure out how to get how to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► them that i would like to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► contempt of the contemporary military [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► people like they have obviously they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► have all the records of world war two so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► they're like well if you just do a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► things to improve your tanks it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► much better for you and the military's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► like well I don't know if we trust you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► changes even though this is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► happened and you are the others the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► complacency issue where the Americans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► should like hey we're going to win or as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► the axis is like oh crap we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► change everything because we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► lose and so that that's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► the Germans and the Japanese are much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► more inclined to change their tactics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► and the Americans are a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► skeptical about it in fact i think one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► of the big motivators for the Americans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► change their tactics is that is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► the 21st century battlegroup destroys a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► huge amount of the u.s. Navy and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► pacific and so they sort of have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► adapt because oops we blow up your Navy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► sorry did those you broke your little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► yeah we didn't know with you anyway I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► enjoyed reading them i was i was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► carried on after after that first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► by the first thirty percent or so where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► where was slow going because it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► much about that battle and I kept saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► you know show me the characters you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► get anymore I'm much more interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► the incursion and what this what effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► this has on the world than I am about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► bunch of ships fighting once once that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► happened I really kind of got swept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► along and really enjoyed seeing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► these crazy permutations of the ripples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► of this one event and how they impact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► you know the culture and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► after that you know like you said Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► it's a it's a fast enjoyable read after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► you get through the nuts and bolts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► just doesn't work for me that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► military nuts-and-bolts think the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► and third books as a whole are much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► interesting because he kind of lets go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► of all the technology and listing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► weapons systems in jail and just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► plays with the cultural impact and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► what would happen if people had access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► to this history and how it diverges and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► then the pop-culture stuff he just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► of plays around with a rare and serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► diversions divergence at that point to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► where you guys you know I war war being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► waged in Australia and it and alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► d-day happening and questions about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► the Japanese plan of attack and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► Pacific is going to be and and attacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► interesting things that didn't happen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► our our version of war two so he gets to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► finally play on that after all the setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► so yeah basically it's three books but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► initial setup to get to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► it really starts paying off that after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► that I i enjoy that I you know I i die i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► think our deal with dave was that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► only have to read the first one but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► and I both went and bought the next two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► and and read them all so I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► I think that's a bit of an endorsement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► yeah it turns out I'm not the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► read it but I haven't well done well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► done you knew I new days gonna record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► dave was whispering in your ear even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► then a multinational task force so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► came back to 2000 that's right and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► look at the semester podcast in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► future that's for this podcast is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► nothing like that podcast because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► it's true yeah so I were all speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► German yeah yeah yeah I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► Switzerland if I try to go by German [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► accent will come out French accent haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2310">TS</a>]
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00:40:23 ◼ ► with world war two he was obviously a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► world war two puffs and a military [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2424">TS</a>]
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00:40:38 ◼ ► that that's a book where we started in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► 1973 and the world is at war us is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► last surviving democracy under President [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2448">TS</a>]
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00:41:03 ◼ ► spreading out over the world and so in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► last-ditch effort to save the world they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► build a time machine and send a crack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► team of people back to World War to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2470">TS</a>]
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00:41:31 ◼ ► what ends up happening is what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2491">TS</a>]
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00:41:36 ◼ ► they're screwing with history to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► what we know as our history which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2497">TS</a>]
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00:41:43 ◼ ► reading bees is this this alter history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2503">TS</a>]
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00:41:49 ◼ ► we're our history is the old history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2509">TS</a>]
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00:46:43 ◼ ► in the phone book that i have purchased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2803">TS</a>]
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00:46:56 ◼ ► he's dead now but he's also kind of it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► completely crazy and so the premise of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► emigrated to America before world war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► one and then he wrote a science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► novel about basically Nazi dream huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► and i bought it because it has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2835">TS</a>]
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00:47:19 ◼ ► used bookstore with like this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2839">TS</a>]
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00:47:28 ◼ ► swastika and so I said well I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► a dollar i need to cut here of the hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► the doomsday machine an excellent 'star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► trek episode once you've been read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► yes well he's not dead I take it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► sorry comments but if you're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► I've got jealous i thought you were dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► or not he's a lot of using born in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► nineteen forties only 73 he's a young is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► young fellow try to give you right after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► you right now he's writing something yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► about about trademarks swastika in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► I was going to bring up the yiddish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► oh yeah which is another all but I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► history by michael chabon about again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► it's coming out of World War two it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► the instead of forming Israel they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► the jewish refugees in Alaska and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► then it said at the time when the Jewish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► refugee zone is going to expire and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► there's tension internationally because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► the all the refugees are being repaired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► the US doesn't really want them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► they're being repatriated and there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► two in general the tented at and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► then there's a murder mystery and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► there's also some fascinating sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► Jewish mysticism stuff too but i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► that because it's this bizarre setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► that I who would have thought that you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► have the jewish state in Alaska and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► those things all mashed up together but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► Michael trip on he's the one who thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► there's also connie willis and her just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► to say nothing of the dog the domesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► book and then blackout and all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► those are time travel but they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► seem to interfere with time they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► there's no nothing alternate about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► past they go into right that when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► first to their historians and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► trying to not screw up the past in black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► and all clear they do kind of get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► screwed up and have to you know it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► think some of the characters wind up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► having to accept living in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► there right stuck that they're stuck to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► their second they're stuck in our time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► though they're not stuck in like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► already much altered pretty much yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► right yeah i think i can I tend to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► of all history's as being separate than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► time-travel they may have they may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► involve time travel but it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► route usually in all history some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► critical key moment in history is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► slightly different it's like the Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► what if common right what if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► like this was made of jello and then so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► they would eat himself me and was it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► they don't hire rewrite this one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► remember years ago when I was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► through a Robert Heinlein kick and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► getting more and more frustrated as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► went along cuz i started with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► lesser Heinlein and i think it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► like one of his last novels to to sail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► something like seven eighths of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► through the book and then all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► sudden it's about you know there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► just random mention of oh and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► something like that and you realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► you've been in an alternate history the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► halftime and I remember getting died it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► funded through the book across the river [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► so yeah I'm kind of a huge headline fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► but anyway long story short I see you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► right Scott there's this intersection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► of time travel and all history and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► parallel you know the whole parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► universe thing to where were the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► so Robert Sawyer's Neanderthal books uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► I'm reminded of because there's a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► person from our world travels into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► parallel world well I uh what is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► Neanderthal from a world where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► animals evolved and became dominant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► humans died out travels accidentally to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► our world and then likewise than human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► travels to their world and that's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► of an old history but it's a you know of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► history of hundred thousand years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► guess but those were those are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► turtledove has made the entire career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► history's guns of the South right where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► we're southern nerves don't know South [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► Africans apartheid South Africans travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► back in time and ship in machine guns to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► the Confederacy so that racism can win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► the day actual actual store at actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► story i think that was Turtledove yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► oh yeah that's against a I've got any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► his books but i have read about the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► kinds of the south yea i've i've read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► little bit of his stuff he wrote here at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► understanding he wrote a great short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► story that I like a lot of hindsight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► that was an analog magazine that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► about science fiction writers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► editors and and science fiction writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► discovers this the story that he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► outlined but Sir filed as alright it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► later and that full story is published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► in a magazine under somebody else's name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► and he thinks is this aliens and mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► control and all that and it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► it's a woman from 30 years in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► who's gone back in time and and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► the things she does to make a living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► his cell classic short stories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3175">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► including some that are are not fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► but in the past they're considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► science fiction what Watergate that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► real story that's one of the lines that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► I like a lot and again it plays without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► that idea that are you know our our our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► presence seemed from the past would seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► ridiculous and science fictional not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► turtledove close enough anything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► return of rights under a pen name or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► it's close enough history music he lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► in an alternate world I think he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► when there's a play by a twitter friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► of mine a playwright whose you might you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► might see reviews of his plays at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► io9.com which blew my mind the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► time I called up the page and went wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► a minute I know those people that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► and his name is Mack Rogers me and he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► writes a lot of science fiction theatre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► which is cool and he has one play called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► Universal robots which is a playoff of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► the pub Rossum's Universal resins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► Universal robots and and the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► about what if the robots had gotten out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► of control and took over Czechoslovakia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► before we were too and it deserves again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► spins off what would happen if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► this sort of robotic country in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► middle of World War two and it's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► alright should we move on to the musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► question that everybody's not asking we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► accept me which is what are you reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► I'd like to ask and Scott you have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► on in so long you probably read like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► 15,000 books but you know let's let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► I'm interested in what interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► things that you've been reading lately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► and well I've been reading these three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► books about this task for well yes those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► remember the same really obviously i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► will this month i've read a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► books in addition to that I've read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► thousand names which is so apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► there's no a sub-genre of fantasy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► of flintlock magic or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► that so basically it's the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► it's a fantasy book people have muskets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► and there's magic so this is a sub-genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► now and the thousand names by the django [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► Wexler I guess his name's is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► in a trilogy of books about there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► one reminds me of another offer that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► KJ parker a very different but very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► similar as well that it's about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► military force that goes into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► country in there you don't you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► quite sure why they're going in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► they're looking for the thousand names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► which I won't say what they are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► they're in insurgents that are attacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► them and you think will is their magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► there may not be magic it might just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► coincidences turns out spoiler there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► yes and rifles so there you go that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► I've read another book called Lowton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► based on a recommendation by an author [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► mike cole who writes military science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► everyone should read Lowton I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► it's kind of a how to describe it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► detective story basically in this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► of like fantasy you are where this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► down on his luck guy is going around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► trying to figure out something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► that's all I will say it's really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► very brief and pour some hot licks a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► is trying to figure things out and find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► you've never read a book like this by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► so check that out and the thousand names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► was good as well the thousand names is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► like 800 pages long and if you aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► really into a lot of military talk you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► might not want and you want more magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► in your fantasy because the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► happens like maybe Paige 700 there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► little magic in it but you might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► want to get into that all right David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► what are you reading well I got to right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► now I'm reading a graphic novel so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► next few seconds for Scott will just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► like white noise this book i'm not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► sure but it's it's a book called Templer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► by Jordan mekin her Beckner i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► that the guy who did prince of persia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► what is going on I all I i have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► i saw in the library and went what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► over what are you reading you've chosen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► a graphic novel written by a guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► how did you get on this podcast if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► gonna do a book that's like a cookbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► why celebrity not even a celebrity chef [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► a cookbook is a political pundit just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► because it's random unos going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► sure didn't even finish the book we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► I didn't even look at the names on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► recovery just open it up and what's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► and and so that so that it was described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► as sort of a blend of name of the rose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► and oceans 11 and i just walked right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► the desk like I'm taking this at-bat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► when I got home was like oh wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► minute video game guy huh so it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► cool and I've got the lies of locke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► lamora oh yes a little interesting here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► which I haven't I haven't started i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► and partly Scott's one of the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► said oh yes you should read that damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► Lauren bought that book for me he gifted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► it to me and it's 99 cents read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► that's right that's your table is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► the other ones yeah oh yes you will like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► this second one not as good hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► the third one will be very good we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► just coming over soon but I realize lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► Morris one of the ones that I'm uh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► i'm reading that right now and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► interesting i'm still trying to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► yeah okay because there's that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► that there's a prologue that is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► whole book it's a very long prologue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► then it and then you've you get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► whoo boy what will happen next in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► chapter 2 and you flip the page and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► says chapter one and you say what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► still reading the prologue but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► just how it is with that book and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► there's it's all thieves and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► stealing things from its thieves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► then other people who were thieves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► then like everybody's a thief in this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► this saves all the way to its thieves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► it's all thieves so I've got that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► reading that now I i finished reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► another recommendation another dan moore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► and recommendation actually midnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► riot or rivers of London if you prefer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► just an urban fantasy about a reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► me a lot of the rook in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► because it's it's a sort of supernatural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► cop in London so it had a little little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► echo of the brook which we recommended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► on a previous show which is a great book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► and I liked it I liked it a lot and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► book that i read recently that i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► liked is nexus by run as nom who i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► actually I bought it because i was on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► podcast with him i was on the boing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► frauenfelder and I i thought hey author [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► of sci-fi i will buy your book now as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► i'm talking to you and he's got a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► book out now but this is his previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► one and I liked it a lot is a crazy kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► of like he's exploring lots of issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► while also having lots of crazy action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► so he doesn't shy away from from it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► not a boring book it where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► let's talk about issues it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► there's lots of crazy action but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► premise is that in the near future these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► people have come up with this it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► a drug but it's also like nanotech and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► essentially goes into your brain and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► turns your brain into a computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► can be interfaced with other brains and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► they can write software just in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► brain they don't need to like implant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► anything in your brain it's just the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► drug the this nano stuff is in your in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► your brain and then it plays out all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► ramifications of that again sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► what we said about the the time-travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► ramifications i really like it when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► play out all of the questions so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► witness be cool you could you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► experience the emotional states of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► people around you and you can kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► all kind of connect together and achieve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► a higher consciousness but it also means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► you can like to mind control and create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► assassins who are unwilling assassins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► and all these terrible things and create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► a dystopian where governments are using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► this to undermine freedom of thought and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► it's all kind of in there together along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► with some kind of almost singularity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► you if you do enough of this are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► people anymore are we sort of past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► people and to some transhuman kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► thing really interesting along with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► I said a lot of fun kind of crazy action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► characters who are a scientist who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► development of Nexus and a woman who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► a a an operative for the u.s. government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► who when we are introduced to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► we sort of feel like she's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► we're meant to think that the u.s. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► government and then as the book goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► along you're like maybe I'm not for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► u.s. government after all which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► nice flip around two so nexus romance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► nom I i recommend it i like that one a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► lot so that's what I've been reading and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► then i read also these three books about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► these 21st century Navy people who get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► plopped down in 1940's crazy it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► wild anymore it's pretty wild analyze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► welcome lamora you know because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► more and shoved it into my hands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► ok you shoved into my amazon account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► well i can i can confirm that then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► not like it's a good book and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► don't like it there's something wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► with you alright fair enough fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► so that that I think we've I think we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► Scott how how was it are you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► back on the on the bicycle now back I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► well you know i think i meani I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► yeah i can get to my the same level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► we're just not going to rest off now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► that's it alright fair enough and David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► you know you you were you are in full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► podcasting shape now I think apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► I you know I colors are more vivid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► Harry's cleaner mean it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► maybe and for the next book club maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► you'll finish the book haha yes well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► look what you want to find the end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► Glenn oh haha hey i read almost all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► the hugo books did you read almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► of them like you read four of them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► did you read like yes 705 i just read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► yeah good way to go sure no I just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► yeah that the title suggests that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3865">TS</a>]
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01:04:48 ◼ ► not feed but the third book in the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3888">TS</a>]
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01:05:02 ◼ ► final voting process so yeah it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3902">TS</a>]
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01:05:16 ◼ ► learned lots of things about the history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► that didn't happen and the Nazis were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3918">TS</a>]
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01:05:27 ◼ ► haven't reviewed the incomparable on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► itunes please do it that helps us a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► and for those who did participate in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► thank you most especially to Dave cork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► Roger who indeed got to house read books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► and look he sold he sold a book to David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► he sold three books to me and he sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► two books to scott who had already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► bought one of them but hadn't read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► yet so he sold 12 past Scott to retro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3950">TS</a>]
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01:05:58 ◼ ► sold the book it's a damn moron who then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► didn't really read much of it and didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/3960">TS</a>]
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01:07:39 ◼ ► exciting book club edition of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► incomparable so i'm going to say goodbye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► to my fine well-read guests David lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► thanks for being here thank you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► having me and Scott melty welcome back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► thank you for being back with us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/4071">TS</a>]
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01:08:30 ◼ ► thank you for listening don't go back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYsAOSM/4110">TS</a>]