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165: Grieving for My Left Thumb

 

00:00:03   the incomparable number 165 october2013 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3">TS</a>]

00:00:11   welcome back to be uncomfortable i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/11">TS</a>]

00:00:15   your host Jason still and in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/15">TS</a>]

00:00:16   episode we're going to be talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/16">TS</a>]

00:00:17   video games i have assigned the member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/17">TS</a>]

00:00:21   is my esteemed panel panelists two games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/21">TS</a>]

00:00:24   to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/24">TS</a>]

00:00:25   it's a tough job that's podcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27   business playing games were assigned to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/27">TS</a>]

00:00:29   you and we're going to talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/29">TS</a>]

00:00:32   two games and who knows where it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/32">TS</a>]

00:00:33   lead I don't play video games i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/33">TS</a>]

00:00:34   know what i'm talking about here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   these guys do and first up that laughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39   you heard there that Steve let's see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   let's have been known to play a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/41">TS</a>]

00:00:42   game or two in his time hi Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/42">TS</a>]

00:00:44   I do play from time to time yes Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/44">TS</a>]

00:00:47   and good evening to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/47">TS</a>]

00:00:48   good evening Dan Morgan is also here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51   known to play video games in his sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53   even he loves them so much that's a lie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/53">TS</a>]

00:00:56   i know it's probably true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58   yeah hi hi hi jason and i forget i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/58">TS</a>]

00:01:03   forgot my niceties I'm too busy playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   a videogame to talk to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07   that's a lie is your new hello very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/67">TS</a>]

00:01:08   video gamers not well known for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   social skills section I will murder us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/70">TS</a>]

00:01:14   Tony sindelar is also here he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/74">TS</a>]

00:01:15   excellent social skills and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   very polite fellow Tony hi jason i play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/77">TS</a>]

00:01:20   too many video games but i'm here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22   talk about them and sell the truth but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/82">TS</a>]

00:01:23   we can always make this an intervention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25   it maybe I and we're all here gathered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/85">TS</a>]

00:01:28   to intervene in the life of our the man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30   whose life has been crippled by his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32   video game addiction John siracusa hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/94">TS</a>]

00:01:35   actually I'm in the dam or enroll in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/95">TS</a>]

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00:01:39   night who did not attend tomorrow like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/99">TS</a>]

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00:01:44   now I will confess i finished one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46   them today I think I saw one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/106">TS</a>]

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00:01:51   right with hell you been at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/111">TS</a>]

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00:01:53   different there whatever you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   well these we all finished it unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   some other pot episodes of the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   cumberland which participants didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/118">TS</a>]

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00:02:03   of the first eighty percent just wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/123">TS</a>]

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00:02:07   reviewers doing the play-by-play 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/129">TS</a>]

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00:02:12   kind of chat room that we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   streaming to said he played the first 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   minutes and that's what that's enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/135">TS</a>]

00:02:16   for him tons yeah I don't know this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/136">TS</a>]

00:02:17   to get that game took some radical turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   to our game and you can finish it come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   up i don't want people that I only like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/141">TS</a>]

00:02:24   the first date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/144">TS</a>]

00:02:25   the star wars and those are the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/145">TS</a>]

00:02:26   minutes i'm not looking at a Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/146">TS</a>]

00:02:29   Destroyer what's the point yeah all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31   downhill after that really alright so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/151">TS</a>]

00:02:34   talk about two games brothers a tale of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/154">TS</a>]

00:02:37   two sons which these are both games that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/157">TS</a>]

00:02:40   came out this year brothers a tale of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42   two sons and gone home for these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/162">TS</a>]

00:02:45   games and I played what I played gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/165">TS</a>]

00:02:52   home a little while ago and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/172">TS</a>]

00:02:53   finished brothers today and we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/173">TS</a>]

00:02:56   talk about the both i don't i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58   if there's a link between the mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/178">TS</a>]

00:02:59   than these are both sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/179">TS</a>]

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00:03:04   release and praise them highly and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/184">TS</a>]

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00:03:08   home everybody immediately said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   should play brothers and I do what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   told on the internet so I i played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/192">TS</a>]

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00:03:20   like games that you can play in one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22   two sittings games are always do like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   GTA or something you know grant thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   or something let's say huge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/206">TS</a>]

00:03:27   sprawling an epic that's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29   when they measure it like this game will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/209">TS</a>]

00:03:30   take you 30 hours to complete and kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/210">TS</a>]

00:03:33   of kind of dig ya on the other hand i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   would argue that these are almost both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37   not games in the there's not a whole lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   of actual gameplay at him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   what are they then what are no neasden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   Steve I don't know there's a line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/223">TS</a>]

00:03:45   somewhere the college's define games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47   say what is really boring i just like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/227">TS</a>]

00:03:51   thank them more and for going back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   explain what GTA stood for things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/233">TS</a>]

00:03:57   hugs find they are i don't know who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   excellent he just said that an epic game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/239">TS</a>]

00:04:02   is 30 hours long so is already losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04   credit fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/244">TS</a>]

00:04:05   I'm i meant double digits but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/245">TS</a>]

00:04:08   lot of hate already here i'll agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10   you Justice with journey which I one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12   the motivating factors that I had for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/252">TS</a>]

00:04:13   playing of course was that john loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   journey but one of the things he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/255">TS</a>]

00:04:16   about it he especially loves by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/256">TS</a>]

00:04:19   their their seminal album brace on radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22   anyway the john loves journey but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/262">TS</a>]

00:04:25   said it only takes like three hours to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27   play it's like watching a movie at two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   hours your life movie and that's how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   classify the genre like now people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   either of these into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/273">TS</a>]

00:04:34   you know just like two-and-a-half hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/274">TS</a>]

00:04:37   play journey but the point the point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   that for somebody like me who had who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   has bought lots of video games over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44   years and has never finish to any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/286">TS</a>]

00:04:47   I loved the idea that I could play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   through this whole story and and and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   to the end and I wanted to keep playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   and find all the little gems and get all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/294">TS</a>]

00:04:55   the little trophies i could do that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   i didn't have to and those these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   games felt that way to obviously they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   small and self-contained and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   didn't get that feeling of frustration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/303">TS</a>]

00:05:04   like you know I'm never gonna play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07   through this whole story because i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   going to invest 40 hours in the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/309">TS</a>]

00:05:10   because i just i'm just not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   ever gonna happen in my life I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   appreciate the fact that neither of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   these games had collectibles which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/316">TS</a>]

00:05:17   something that is increasingly driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19   me nuts with games got way too much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   an OCD touch to avoid actually trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/321">TS</a>]

00:05:24   get everything although I never succeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   and that just makes me feel sad it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/326">TS</a>]

00:05:27   just a way for them to pad out the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/327">TS</a>]

00:05:28   so they can have those huge our accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30   and right and and they only did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/330">TS</a>]

00:05:31   because they've they felt like it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/331">TS</a>]

00:05:34   they ever get slammed by consumers if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   they didn't like they felt pressure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/336">TS</a>]

00:05:37   gain people's like oh we're gonna put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   out a game and we have a story to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/339">TS</a>]

00:05:40   that story takes about two hours to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41   but that's not long enough for it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   viable as a product for us LOL game like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   that so we have to add stuff like stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   collectibles and barriers and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/347">TS</a>]

00:05:49   finally in the past few years like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/349">TS</a>]

00:05:50   know what if we don't add that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   actually like the game even better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54   so that's what this new market of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/354">TS</a>]

00:05:55   know two-hour-long games it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   the saleable part of like you know at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/357">TS</a>]

00:05:58   all it's the like we you know the true a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/358">TS</a>]

00:06:01   title cost 60 bucks right or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03   like that you know 50 60 bucks i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05   people will feel like hey why I can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/365">TS</a>]

00:06:09   a movie you know I can watch a movie for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/369">TS</a>]

00:06:10   like ten dollars that takes up two hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12   i'm going to play a game that costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13   sixty dollars better take me longer than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   two hours right like you get this value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/375">TS</a>]

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00:06:19   much I want to pay to play journey but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/379">TS</a>]

00:06:20   like at a certain point differential own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/380">TS</a>]

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00:06:30   becomes more valuable to you to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/390">TS</a>]

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00:06:35   movie like that that you would pay more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   than you would if you know i still play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   games like the other were you know me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/399">TS</a>]

00:06:40   and my son and putting like 85 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   into a zelda game but I know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   getting there and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/404">TS</a>]

00:06:44   I'm arguably getting more of my money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   and my sixty dollars worth out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/406">TS</a>]

00:06:47   then i get $15 into this but i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/407">TS</a>]

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00:06:51   to our game any day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   yeah alright let's get started let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56   talk about gone home which is from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/416">TS</a>]

00:06:57   Fulbright company came out is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/417">TS</a>]

00:07:00   summer i want to say and it runs it's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/420">TS</a>]

00:07:04   it's available on steam it runs on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06   windows mac and linux i played on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   macbook air on a foggy cold of summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/428">TS</a>]

00:07:16   day at san francisco and this is a this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/436">TS</a>]

00:07:20   is a first-person game that it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   sets you up to be that it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/442">TS</a>]

00:07:26   kind of a horror story because it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29   off as a dark and stormy night and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32   are you are a young woman named caitlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/452">TS</a>]

00:07:37   who returns home although her family has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/457">TS</a>]

00:07:40   since she's been in Europe studying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/460">TS</a>]

00:07:43   abroad she's a they moved to a new house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/463">TS</a>]

00:07:46   and it's a big house and it's a dark and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   stormy night and the implication is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/468">TS</a>]

00:07:49   there might be something scary going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/469">TS</a>]

00:07:53   in there because you're playing a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/473">TS</a>]

00:07:54   game and of course that would be what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/474">TS</a>]

00:07:55   you'd expect but regardless of the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/475">TS</a>]

00:07:58   the story what what you find out when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   Kaitlyn arrives at the front door is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   that there is nobody in the house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/482">TS</a>]

00:08:05   the rest of gamma gone home is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   essentially Caitlin investigating this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   house that she's never been in which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/489">TS</a>]

00:08:10   good because we've never been in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/490">TS</a>]

00:08:11   either and trying to figure out what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/491">TS</a>]

00:08:14   going on and what everybody's been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   and why there's nobody there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/496">TS</a>]

00:08:17   does that sound about right more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/497">TS</a>]

00:08:18   it's charmingly set in the 1995 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/498">TS</a>]

00:08:21   there's there's lots of light and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/501">TS</a>]

00:08:22   written notes and and and answering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/502">TS</a>]

00:08:25   machine messages and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/505">TS</a>]

00:08:26   people don't have you know you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   looking at people's text messages or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/508">TS</a>]

00:08:29   emails but right if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/509">TS</a>]

00:08:30   smartphone you would have just called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/510">TS</a>]

00:08:31   like family right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33   this game is this game doesn't work if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/513">TS</a>]

00:08:35   you have a smartphone so how many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/515">TS</a>]

00:08:36   knew anything about this game going in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/516">TS</a>]

00:08:40   jason said right you you said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   thought it would be like a haunted house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/522">TS</a>]

00:08:43   but did you really did you know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44   about it I knew that it took place in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/526">TS</a>]

00:08:47   yeah I avoided most stuff I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   somebody said that it was affecting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51   that it was not like most games but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   knew no details other than that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   said in this house that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57   that was it yeah I really expected in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   some ways something that as we will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   into was not in this key but the spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/541">TS</a>]

00:09:05   horn should go off here because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   right it is time let's let's yes let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/547">TS</a>]

00:09:10   fire off 44 gone home work firing off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/550">TS</a>]

00:09:14   spoiler horn and please come back if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   you want to listen to to us talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   brothers but for this next interval here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/558">TS</a>]

00:09:21   it comes I hear it coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/561">TS</a>]

00:09:27   no I kept waiting you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   creeping around corners and I turned on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   you can turn on the lights as you go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33   normally in my life you know i turn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35   light on my turn the light off and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   kind of moved from the house but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   not a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/578">TS</a>]

00:09:39   don't we all and your light off is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41   like me I mean that's one of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   successful things about it for my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/583">TS</a>]

00:09:44   like I remember coming home to me like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   house late at night when I was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/586">TS</a>]

00:09:47   teenager and you know my parents are out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/587">TS</a>]

00:09:48   of town or something and it's like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   when turn on every light in this house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   yeah it's gonna be the best thing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/592">TS</a>]

00:09:53   game the best joke in the whole game is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   where you come upon the cork board with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57   the note to the other daughter and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   dad is saying starting the lights on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01   the house that decision you are of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/601">TS</a>]

00:10:04   course that sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/604">TS</a>]

00:10:05   yeah i'm spending the last 20 minutes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   turning on all the lights in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/607">TS</a>]

00:10:08   every single light switch in that house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   lies on the mat room all the red herring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12   stuff like the X file tapes in the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15   know living room and all this that I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   like it starts leading you down these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   paths of thinking it's going to be oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/619">TS</a>]

00:10:20   it's gonna be this kind of story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   yeah there are so many applicable tropes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   that they didn't do anything Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/624">TS</a>]

00:10:25   mentioned haunted house but the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/625">TS</a>]

00:10:27   ones that i had my mind from playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/627">TS</a>]

00:10:28   other video games with a sampler like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30   premises you know unreliable narrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   this suicide factor psycho killer any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/632">TS</a>]

00:10:36   number of the family members a psycho [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38   killer body snatchers aliens like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40   are so many possible during travel ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42   that you played games exactly like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44   that when those directions and the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   thing about this game is one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48   doesn't go in those directions but to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/648">TS</a>]

00:10:49   that it has the playfulness to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51   faints and almost all those directions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/651">TS</a>]

00:10:52   at various points so until it settles in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/652">TS</a>]

00:10:55   until you're totally convinced you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/655">TS</a>]

00:10:56   be like alright but they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58   take me out you know and they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/658">TS</a>]

00:10:59   couple of fake outs like I mean I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00   yeah there's a creepy neighbor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/660">TS</a>]

00:11:03   psycho house I got to admit that none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   that none of the sort of creepy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   really work for me unfortunately because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   i would have loved if it had but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   know maybe i just played far too many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13   those kinds of games but it never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   felt like it was committing in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/675">TS</a>]

00:11:16   direction for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/676">TS</a>]

00:11:17   well I didn't it's not supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/677">TS</a>]

00:11:18   the nothing nothing jumps out and scares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   you in this game like there's no zombie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/680">TS</a>]

00:11:21   behind a door there's no you know scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/681">TS</a>]

00:11:24   moment a cat does not race across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/684">TS</a>]

00:11:25   floor like it that it doesn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   the only thing that was the closest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/687">TS</a>]

00:11:28   thing to scare factor is when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30   when you're in the first secret passage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/690">TS</a>]

00:11:31   in the light flickers out for a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   and that's that's a good moment but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/693">TS</a>]

00:11:34   other than that I it i never felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/694">TS</a>]

00:11:37   it was going to take a turn anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39   other than where it did he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/699">TS</a>]

00:11:40   re completely because I my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   was very different i played the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/702">TS</a>]

00:11:43   half of this on a plane and let me tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/703">TS</a>]

00:11:46   you like if you want the full like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/706">TS</a>]

00:11:47   force-feedback experience when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   like creeping out like a hallway and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   turning the lights on and you go into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   dark room and then your entire plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/713">TS</a>]

00:11:54   like it was like a turbulence tip you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/714">TS</a>]

00:11:57   like okay I gotta stop playing this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/717">TS</a>]

00:11:58   thank me out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/718">TS</a>]

00:11:59   no I did I did play this game in total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   darkness the new is gonna be one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   those types of games are turned off all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/723">TS</a>]

00:12:04   the lights and everything but I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05   I'm I'm affected by creepiness in mood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07   and everything but mostly what got me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   this game with things where they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/729">TS</a>]

00:12:10   in a certain point that I had realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   it's not going to go in all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/732">TS</a>]

00:12:13   different direction right it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/733">TS</a>]

00:12:14   straightforward but then they do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   like the like the red hair dye in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/736">TS</a>]

00:12:17   bathtub you have got that was facing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   that direction or even things like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   know the Attic with the red lights in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   the Attic even at that point i'd know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24   it's not gonna be that kind of story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   I'm still a little weird and the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/746">TS</a>]

00:12:27   for the flickering lights from the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   room when you first yeah and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   and the thing the thing that got me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   when I came home the most was at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   certain point you open up one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/755">TS</a>]

00:12:36   secret passages and you get know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   think you're down to the basement or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   something yeah basement is really dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/760">TS</a>]

00:12:41   and there were candles and began any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43   game with candles like I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/763">TS</a>]

00:12:44   stopped I went back I got a candle i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/764">TS</a>]

00:12:47   went to get a match to light the candle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/767">TS</a>]

00:12:48   but there are no matches in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/768">TS</a>]

00:12:49   matchbook and I'm like what am i doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51   and you can't use anything on anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53   else anyway so it was a bit of a fluid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/773">TS</a>]

00:12:54   is not making progress in the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   basically because I didn't want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/776">TS</a>]

00:12:57   down into the dark basement because yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   one department is like being a gamer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   it's like look they have candles this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   guy i don't know whether to be impressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/783">TS</a>]

00:13:04   with the game or just sad for you well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   know because like the part of the gamers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   things I'm I kept looking for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   use X on Y like text adventure type type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/790">TS</a>]

00:13:13   stuff like that it was kind of a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15   bit ly none of it was important to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   gameplay and I figured these candles are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   here like it was the curse of this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/799">TS</a>]

00:13:20   if you're a gamer so many things were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22   interactive that didn't need to be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/802">TS</a>]

00:13:24   I think that is a pretty fair critique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/804">TS</a>]

00:13:25   their there's all its really again it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/805">TS</a>]

00:13:28   it a game it's more of this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/808">TS</a>]

00:13:29   mildly interactive experience there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   always things that look like maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/811">TS</a>]

00:13:32   should be a puzzle but they're not right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/812">TS</a>]

00:13:35   and even other kind of the secrets that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   you find the secret passageways and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   panels and things like that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41   actually find those and open those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/821">TS</a>]

00:13:42   before the game tells you to which a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   of other games you wouldn't write like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   the parent wouldn't be movable until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/826">TS</a>]

00:13:47   found the note that says it i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49   theoretically i looked at it afterward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51   you could beat this game in three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/831">TS</a>]

00:13:52   minutes if you click on the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54   stuff you have no idea what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/834">TS</a>]

00:13:55   but but you could kind of jump around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58   without being directed where stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   I did a little bit of it out of order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/840">TS</a>]

00:14:01   actually realize toward the end that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   there was one portion that I had to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05   there was a little corner of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   downstairs that I hadn't covered and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09   there was something that didn't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   sense and i realized i needed to go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/851">TS</a>]

00:14:12   I have to go back downstairs and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   the laundry room and then there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   whole little threat over there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/856">TS</a>]

00:14:17   opened up a few things and then I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   finally go and resolve the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   game because i just happened to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23   out of order and that was fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/863">TS</a>]

00:14:24   sure well Steve must have done like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   completionist about the collectibles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/866">TS</a>]

00:14:27   stuff like I'm total i've added the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   gamers or two I did like hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/869">TS</a>]

00:14:32   completion exhaustive search of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/872">TS</a>]

00:14:34   rock and cranny and i feel like i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/874">TS</a>]

00:14:35   the game exactly the order that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   Gamemakers intended you to do because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   it's the water that a gamer would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/879">TS</a>]

00:14:40   like go in you know it maybe I took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/880">TS</a>]

00:14:43   left instead of right first or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/883">TS</a>]

00:14:44   but I swept this game from beginning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   end and i don't think i mislike a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   thing and it makes for a very coherent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/888">TS</a>]

00:14:51   story like a reasonably good short story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/891">TS</a>]

00:14:54   but you can I if if this I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   realize the panels would be openable I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   gonna get you could totally break the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/898">TS</a>]

00:14:59   story which is racing up in the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/899">TS</a>]

00:15:00   place at the lot of material and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   you know you can even mix you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/902">TS</a>]

00:15:03   experience stuff and kind of strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   order i mean the answering machine right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07   in the front hall has the voicemail from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/907">TS</a>]

00:15:08   Lonni on it and you don't know who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/908">TS</a>]

00:15:11   are is yeah that's I assumed I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/911">TS</a>]

00:15:12   intended i don't know i mean i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   it's i think it's intended to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16   either way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/916">TS</a>]

00:15:16   yeah that was one of the first things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/916">TS</a>]

00:15:17   hit was this the answering machine yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   they know what's going to write to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/919">TS</a>]

00:15:20   I think there is an argument about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   whether or not is there in order and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25   there are differences that I i canna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/925">TS</a>]

00:15:26   you're not endorsed on Rails I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   know there's a cool there's a clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/928">TS</a>]

00:15:29   order and additionally there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   organized by date speak but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   experience them necessarily are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   specifically tied two locations or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   do they cross the Marzano they are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   are tied to locations i can say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   definitely because i had an inventory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   items as well but you don't have to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   up all them i had to restart after about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   an hour and a half of play time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/947">TS</a>]

00:15:48   it ate my save game for some reason and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51   actually initially i usually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/951">TS</a>]

00:15:52   appreciate the fact that you have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54   options open to you can try things in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/954">TS</a>]

00:15:55   different way and the first time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   played actually went up the stairs first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   because their lights on up there and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   thought well if I was walking in and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03   was looking for people who are home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/963">TS</a>]

00:16:04   we're gonna go i'm gonna go where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06   lights are clearly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/966">TS</a>]

00:16:07   so I headed up the stairs and I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   did things a little out of order and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   was it was still pretty clear what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   narrative was that was forming there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15   when i restarted it I I realize you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/975">TS</a>]

00:16:18   it's very clear that they want this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/978">TS</a>]

00:16:19   be done in a certain order for it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   make the right kind of sense you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   for you really appreciate the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/983">TS</a>]

00:16:24   properly and i actually found it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26   annoying that i was allowed to take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28   the alternate route because I wanted I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   this game is so clearly about telling a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/990">TS</a>]

00:16:33   story and I wanted to be told the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   the way it was supposed to be told as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   opposed to getting it piecemeal it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   locked doors and lack of information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   that's trying to put your along a linear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   path and so I don't for making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   panel's movable unlock doors really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:46   look regal or a little a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   exploration here but we don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50   people to totally break the game and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   you don't know about the panel's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:53   odds of you and going lighter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55   environments like every single panel i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:56   mean i was picking those I was being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:57   completionist but I was doing it mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   with items that i thought would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:00   interactive and I was getting frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:01   because like every single soda can and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   potato chip bags interactive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   single-handed box i looked in every side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   of like a certain point you realize this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   isn't resident evil I don't need to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:10   every item over to make sure there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:11   a lot I can be on the bottom that opens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:14   up there reveals a key you know it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   once I broke myself those habits i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   found myself picking on Adams that new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   probably wouldn't be worth it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:21   right it's just it's it's a hard habit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   to break but just throwing cans all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   that kind of it's kind of like it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27   of like a journey where if you play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29   game over and over again which I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:30   you see the parts where you can break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:31   out of it but my first run-through of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:32   journey I felt like I was exactly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34   me and the game designers were exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   you know in sync and everything was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   happening the right time and gone home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:39   did that a few times because i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   followed the linear path and also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   journals which are either location or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:44   item-based triggered sometimes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   they'd be fighting because I'd like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   tape that I was playing and then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:49   the journal would play with Jessica and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   they would fight with each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:51   that wasn't good but like others music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:54   yeah one or two times though the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:57   journal start playing at just the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:58   moment and made a very cinematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1078">TS</a>]

00:17:59   experience like I think was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01   last journal things was playing as I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   racing up to the attic for like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   yeah the final anything like that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:06   that sometimes it really worked anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   really worked it was great and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:09   difficult to pull it off it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   know it's like my favorite a recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   Fincher movie the game where when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   everything comes together and i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   answer on the X in the air bag with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:18   revelation happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:19   like it's really difficult to do that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   real life and so that's what this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:22   makers are trying to do is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:23   give you a game where they arranged it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:26   all for you to have some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:27   experience revelation but also make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   feel like you are free acting individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31   the entire time that I think that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:32   interesting thing about you have freedom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   you know you you unlock one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:35   journals and you start hearing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37   sister talk to you and it's you stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:38   there and listen the whole time do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   keep continue searching the room do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42   walk down the spooky whore corridor well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44   well she continues to talk to you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   something and you know it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   you're on Rails this is what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:49   going to experience right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51   I couldn't stand the thought that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:52   gonna miss it so i had to stand there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   listed all things and I'm gonna go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   I mean I finish the story i went back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   and saw because there's kind of three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00   locked areas you can get into one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   you have to advance the story and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:03   figured out how to get the other two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:04   which you don't have to and could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   guess proceed push presumably you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   open the safe in the basement or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:09   locked file cabinet in the office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   without you can complete the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13   without doing that but you miss out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1153">TS</a>]

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00:25:48   it's like uh okay and I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:51   wasn't sure also in terms of the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:52   that there are the dates have their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   little story going on with the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   parts of the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:57   um you know in some ways that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:58   little distracting I wondered if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1558">TS</a>]

00:25:59   were supposed to be a thing where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   kind of fit together in some way I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03   there's its kind of its they leave it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:05   seems like somewhat unclear what the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:08   father's big issues from his traumatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   childhood experience but you know does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   that play into the complications and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   his relationship with your sister then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   in terms of her his unwillingness to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   know basically tolerate her behavior so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20   i wasn't sure if there was an attempt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22   kind of attach these two things together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   in terms of how the stories 50 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25   but the parents are not approving of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   sister-like show they're there and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   don't know how it's not a happy ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   because the parents haven't come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   terms that she has run away and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:34   it's happy for her kind of but you as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   sister like well now my family has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   exploded live in common right we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40   we should say I think we did mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:41   that so what we did what we discover and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   the main through line of this story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   is discovering that the little sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   Sam has met a friend who's a kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:50   rebel you know rebellious girl named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:56   Lanna Loni Loni Loni who I we get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1616">TS</a>]

00:27:00   know as as the story progresses and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:03   get so they get to know each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05   they fall in love and so the the so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:08   parents are not understanding of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   fact that their daughter is a lesbian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:11   says she's going through a phase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:14   Lonnie meanwhile you know it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   perfect character and and you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   and then Lonnie's turns out is signing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   up to join the army and is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   leave which really upset Sam and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   the story that's being told so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   you that that's the I really the core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:29   there are all these other other stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:30   and that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:31   that story unfolds not only as a as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34   Caitlyn goes through through sam's room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:37   but it also unfolds Caitlyn goes through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:40   a series of secret passageway into like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:44   like the servants quarters i guess it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:47   turns out of this house which sam and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49   Lonnie kind of like took over as their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   Clubhouse and as you discover those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   secret entries you also find the secrets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:56   of their of their relationship as as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   teenager's falling in love and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:00   mixtapes of bad punk bands and scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:04   and publishing the readings right he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:07   good idea awesome scene follicles should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:11   have been more computers in this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12   like we had computers in the nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   i'm pretty sure it's non-refundable they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:17   weren't no one night is usually what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   pick with this yet just about an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:20   before caitlyn got to the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   a robber came and stole over computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25   yeah well it's apparently they took all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:26   the VCRs you have the nintendo listen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:29   should attach them to go with yeah just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:32   as soon as licensing restrictions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:33   because they had all that all the SNES [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   cartridges in there but with the crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:36   labels on them and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   yeah so I want this let's talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   house just because i wanted to say might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:43   one of my number one things when i went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44   through this game was a boy I would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:47   a house like this I've always dreamed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:48   about having a house with like secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   stuff in it and this this has got all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:51   the secret passageways their secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   passageways everywhere in this house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   it's like houses secret I i know it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:58   the square footage for the tax assessor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1738">TS</a>]

00:28:59   like well it seems to me it seems your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01   house looks a lot bigger on the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02   it's like the opposite of the trusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   ducting there's just lots of big air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   ducts it's not there's not nothing back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:09   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:09   it's the cigarette one and eat artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   lane but it's it's the you know they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   that it's the it's the servants quarters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   or whatever but it's just there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:16   moment where i think i found it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   i was in the closet in one of the bed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   one of the bedrooms right and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:21   like things like the button up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24   ceiling of the closet and I'm like huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   what's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:28   boom rubber room one like whoo secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30   passageway right and that was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:33   exciting because I i love that i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   you know I want that bookshelf that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:36   slides away and reveals a whole room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:38   behind it which sadly I'd I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   so I i was thinking this house is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:43   creepy and yet i'm really i'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:44   loving all the secret passageway stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   that was just on its own i love that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:48   oh we should mention too there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50   whole day inherit this house from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52   what is an old uncle uncle Oscar and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:55   has a tragic story of his own to that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:58   learn it mostly in the in the basement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   in that secret area all the way down in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   the basement where there's the safe okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:05   let me let me ask then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:06   is this his tragic story alone or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:09   off his and the father's yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12   raising location IE that's what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   trying to figure because you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   we've got the the darkroom with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   light doesn't work that's got the toy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   horse in it and right around the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   there and the servants quarters we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23   got what is the father's name terry yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:27   yeah we've got his markings on the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:30   of how tall he is growing each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:31   thanksgiving and then it stops suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   in 1963 which coincidentally is the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:38   the Kennedy assassination which suggests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   that maybe that's why Terry's got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:41   in his mind so vividly and so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:44   thinking is this a mala station story or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:47   what I think I think you got it yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   where is the note that we're reading is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50   his is his transgression that the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:53   is so ticked off at him about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   else but yeah that's that's the feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   I got there I was just curious whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   everybody else thinks everyone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   seems to be the heavy implication i saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03   other people suggest that maybe you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:04   he came out to his family and night in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   nineteen sixties with that doesn't then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08   connect is nicely into you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09   everything running with I like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   that they didn't have to nail a nail it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   down because you can that any of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   interpretations are perfectly fine like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:16   that's not the point of the story like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   we understand you know they're there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:19   problems here and we do we need to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   the exact details you don't really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   really know in fact I didn't open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   lock things I mean I couldn't the couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   of them because i had trouble finding I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   open sans locker I didn't open the safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:32   in the basement I think now and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:33   combination for tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:34   and spend a lot of I was like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35   I can spend time working on this or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   can I like keep going through the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:38   so yeah used to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:41   yep so in the safe and the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43   basement dan there's in addition to he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:46   has a nice collection of narcotics there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:49   specifically morning and then a letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   to i believe his sister in which dated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:55   years ago in which you basically you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:56   know which is quite classic apologize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   area yes yes right his transgression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01   without getting into the specifics of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:04   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:05   yeah well I mean any I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06   there's a point to there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   interpretations and there are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:09   that are or are not important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   necessarily to comprehending the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:13   game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:13   yeah but yeah it is interesting it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   layered story which is that if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   gonna throw that aspect it I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   wish it actually had some impact on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   story and I don't really see that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23   was no I mean it doesn't that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   imagine like how it makes the follow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:26   person that he is and how it out to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:29   feet his tortured life and where it came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:32   from and how he sort of takes it out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:33   his daughter are not being understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   about that you know like but it works in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   a family dynamic in that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:38   always know the details of all the deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:41   dark things in your very own family like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43   that's the one place you're very likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:44   not to know the details right but why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46   uncle bobby gone now or like what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   the deal with these two and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   secrets died with people and so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   it's reasonable for you in 1995 to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:55   look through this stuff and kind of get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:56   a good idea of what was going on but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   to have anyone available certainly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1978">TS</a>]

00:32:59   immediately in the time this game to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   tell you what's the real deal like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   just wanted to explain to us like tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04   me exactly what happened on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:05   omniscient narrator know if it's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   family maybe you don't know maybe you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08   never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:09   yep and we get I think there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:11   lot of little hints like that right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:12   mean one of the other things you find in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   the basement is the father's father the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:17   father has a painting of his father the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   faces torn outfits like the letter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   letter from his father which is you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   do better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:24   you can do better it out you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:25   got his father of you know signs it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   formally you know your father below PhD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30   and it's you know I mean we we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32   know what happens with a relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:34   maybe he really likes the second book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:35   problem yeah that's equally much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:38   but I mean that there was a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   really clear line between his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   father's disapproval of him and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   stuff that he was going through and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:45   didn't see that there was any kind of in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   vacation that that the potential mala [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   station was weighing heavy on him and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:52   I just thought that was kind of odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:53   well I think it was the 1963 connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   with like that was you know the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   thing where you stick your arm and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:58   bucket of ice water and then memorize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2038">TS</a>]

00:33:59   numbers better like something traumatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   happens to you then like the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   the other thing that happened that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:04   list forever linked in your mind is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:05   always obsessed with writing about JFK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   for the rest of his life and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:08   and they keep it vague but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:09   there's also i think the idea he then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:12   has to move back to this house where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   that may have happened and now he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:15   falling apart right his yes that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:18   bad choice problem there's the alcohol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   hidden throughout and there's all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21   stuff where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:22   yeah I mean maybe maybe that is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24   the source of all this problems right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   maybe if they you know if that hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:27   happened to them and they were in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:28   house his relationship with his daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   may be different i can inherit the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:31   then just sell it they don't realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:32   that the movement yeah i know it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   kind of ruined it a little bit for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:35   people but they have no their money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   right in it and that's like that was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   of the first letters i found yeah it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41   a Carol Carol Carol friends like all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:44   know I always wanted to mention and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:45   wanted a house in the woods and you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   both right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:47   yeah I you know you could have imagined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   that they felt they had to go there a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:52   secret secret passageways got your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   passage with Jason would be there in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:55   second email with my hair got murdered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:58   I don't know Ian ghostly was yours have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:01   his way there's a lot of capacities hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:02   ya talkin about the letters I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:05   appreciate the fact that you know we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:08   been god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:08   well you as the the elder daughter has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:11   been gone for a year so you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:12   you've got a year's worth of time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   make up you gotta find out what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16   in the interim the fact that in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:19   kind of fill in all the gaps we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   letters that were written like by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:24   phone phone messages that were there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   a year ago that somehow never got picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   up and thrown away I and and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:32   seems like neatly as you're exploring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:33   the house you're finding things from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:34   later and later in the year that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   really kind of took me out of it i wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:37   there been another way they could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:38   done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:39   it's tough not to do that you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:40   going to have it you're not gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:41   an actual years whether written history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   in an actual house but the only thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   think the way you're supposed to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47   conceptualizing I don't think they did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:48   great job in it which is where that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   coming from all of the the journals that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   she's kind of reading to you I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:53   idea is that your kind of experiencing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   them even though you you don't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:56   get them all until you go up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58   Apple you read the polity and all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00   that's that that's the flash-forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   thing that doesn't bother me it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   that it's just the letters the letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:07   from the publisher from 1978 that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   happens to be sitting out in a box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   yeah and I guess maybe someone that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:12   kind of a hand waving because like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   know they've moved in right and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:15   adds to the like right now is the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17   of disaster area because it was looted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   or because many years people unpack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   already you know when you may say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   momentous letters like a lot of letters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   you find that are meaningful and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:26   imagine all you want to save this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28   first letters that we got a letter where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:29   you going to do your job offer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   things like that right you could imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:32   those could be they haven't been in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   house for a year they moved recently to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:37   the house right now they've been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:38   for almost an entire year based on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   first packing slip from the movers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:43   just make any sense of it because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:44   all still in boxes have you moved a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   it takes a while to get all the boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48   out it doesn't take a year though to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50   revenge on the people it's the foyer for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:53   God's sake that's the first place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:54   you move the boxes out of so if guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56   come to check out your new digs they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58   don't trip over boxy we're going to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   basement were inspecting it i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:01   saying i moved after living in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   place for five years and there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   boxes that were not unpacked and let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:06   tell you nothing useful in those all I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:09   saying is this game lives or dies based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12   on based on whether i can relate to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   character and whether i can get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16   exploring the house and feeling like i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18   kailyn and when there's so much stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20   around that very clearly isn't realistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22   it it took me out of it but you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:25   be ready to be to give into the mood and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:26   atmosphere like you have to go anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   I'm knowing that knowing it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:29   be that type of game and being in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   right mindset or on a plane in the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33   and just and i'm going to i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   give myself to this experience and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:36   especially if you're played a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:38   other games you have to look I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40   handle this type of game and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42   accept it or it just bothers me I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:43   never be able to accept it and I'm i'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45   total sucker for like slightly moody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   lighting some good music and like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49   right fine you got me I'm ready to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51   and very little will take me out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:52   except for things that break that mood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   and i think they held they held the mood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:57   they were consistent throughout the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:58   they didn't there wasn't a spot where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   felt like I now you have to do a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   know a puzzle looks like pipe dream to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:03   pretend you're hacking or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:04   something crazy thing like that jumping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   a little it was tell you is no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   platforming right it really means is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   know it was very consistent and so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   I said that the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:13   you can manipulate that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14   pointless they were there throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   whole game and I just had to come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:17   accept them but the atmosphere i felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:20   like held the whole time and built to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:21   satisfying conclusion i thought the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   ending of it walking up to the journal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   and realizing that you've been hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   during the entire game all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:28   that you read later work that work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30   me I like I liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   let's let's talk about the ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:35   how everybody felt about about playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:39   this game I I i liked it i enjoyed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:42   you know couple hours I spent with it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   a Sunday morning I thought I you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:47   was not one of those kind of super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:51   frustrating puzzle kind of game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:52   experiences it was much more like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   walking through and discovering things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   and in more or less the right order but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   I i appreciated this method of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:01   storytelling and then it was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   bit different and yet i was i was seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   these kind of interlocked stories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06   discovering in an interesting way and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   i did like the fact that it submitted my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10   expectations and that I was you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:14   the dark and stormy night I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:15   expecting something a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   adventurous than I actually got but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   did i did enjoy it i'm wondering you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:22   know what you guys think in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24   your product on on on gone home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26   I was a little surprised by how short it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   was um I mean I guess I got to the end I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   was left wanting more which is not a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   thing there's so many other games I play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:33   where they seemed to drag on but I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:36   little surprised by how short it was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   i liked it i would recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   I honestly found it kind of boring and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:45   hate to say that because i love indie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   games and I really see what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:48   trying to get get out here but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:52   atmosphere just never really worked for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:53   me that the contrived stuff laying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:56   around just took me out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:57   atmosphere constantly and I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:01   the the whole love story plot line was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   very sweet and very well done and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   mostly down to really good writing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:08   the two girls like the the notes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:11   they've written back and forth really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:12   ring true for me they felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   teenagers in a way that fictional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:15   characters are things you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   successfully kind of took me back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   that period where everything seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:22   it was heartbreak you know and and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   thought that all work very well and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:27   whoever the voice actresses that did Sam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29   was terrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:31   yes because she had a real nice sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   and she sounded very heartfelt and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:36   really fit the part very well but to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:39   I sit down for a game and I want to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:42   a game you know and this this was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   or less we can debate endlessly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:47   constitutes a game but i think there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   a line where you know you've stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:52   playing a game and you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:53   basically experiencing a Judy Blume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   novel with a really convoluted page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   turning mechanism know and this I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2457">TS</a>]

00:41:00   was was over that line for me I I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   know I understand that other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   probably feel very differently about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:05   but didn't really work for me and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:08   really enjoyed it i mean III playing ki [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11   played in two sessions and so I had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:12   first instinct was session on the plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14   where I played for an hour or so and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:17   that point was like really creeped out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:18   and kind of put away because I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:19   all right I need to put this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:21   come back to this when I'm not on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:22   plane in the darkness over the over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:25   middle of the country and I played it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   like an afternoon and so it was it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29   that point i think it was right around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:30   the time at which you start getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   better idea of what kind of game it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:33   so the mood for me while still creepy at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:38   times and sort of having that eerie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:39   movie atmosphere that the job was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   talking about a it it's often a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:44   bit both probably by being in daylight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:45   and because i was starting to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:46   clearer picture of what the story was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:48   about and I think you know Steve's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   that this is there's a lot of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   that's more story like in terms of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   know being told a story but i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   i mean i still thought as a game it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   fun and interesting it was a yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01   don't--there's there's room for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:02   different types of games in this for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:03   you know well not like many of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:06   games that I play I think it was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   worthwhile experience and it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:09   interesting story and I enjoyed the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   that it was presented and clearly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:14   someone who didn't go through in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:15   unlock everything cream you know maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:19   didn't get the most out of it that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   could have but I still thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:22   pretty good as we're going to find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   in a moment I thought gone home was much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:27   more successful than brothers I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   and it instantly it's I think it's of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31   interest to a narrow group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:34   than brothers is and I think gone home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:37   requires more empathy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:40   charity and life experience to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:41   appreciate like a 12 year olds not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:43   play gone home and you know get into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   or maybe they would I don't know but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:46   seems like not it's not as broad and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:49   terms of like what is a game what isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:50   I i was filled that what gaming brings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:53   to the experience is the idea that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:57   are making things happen not that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:00   like oh I can change the game in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   of the end of my game the house blew up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:03   or anything like that it's it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:06   illusion of of control and agent this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:09   year just the sheer fact that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:10   participating you said I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:11   sophisticated way of paper showing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   sufficiently sophisticated technique of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   page-turning brings me at least into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   story more because i feel like i am i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:20   participating I'm like you get the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:21   thing when you read a book like you an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:22   empty empathize with the character lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:24   character whatever but the act of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   walking around doing that stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:27   looking through things yourself as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   little as it may matter to the outcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   of the game or maybe your become totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   longer else or whatever I if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:36   feel that and I didn't feel that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39   during this game it makes the story more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41   meaningful to me than if I had simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   read those journal entries on let that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44   my yardstick you put the text of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   game into a book and read it versus me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   playing this game i'll pick the game any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:49   day of the week with the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:50   words and that I feel like it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   gaming brings to this above and beyond a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:55   story I very much agree with what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   saying there and when I thought exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59   the opposite i thought this could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:01   done better in a book with with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:04   thing with the same text now well I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   you have to have to structure in such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   way that it wasn't ridiculous I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:09   can just read the journal and and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   satisfied with that but honestly my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   obviously we did in the book you flush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15   it out way more and it would be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:16   could make a good book out of this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:17   just given just given the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:20   texts in the stories here with maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:21   little bit of connecting stuff I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   like walking through the house finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:24   things yourself doing the stuff in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   atmosphere heighten the experience my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   way above just attacks and now you two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   must fight to the death and I just felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   like I wasn't doing anything is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   problem is i was picking up milk cartons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36   and turning them over and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:37   basically just killing time until I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   found the next blotted a piece of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:41   that was story relevant and so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:44   wasn't enough to suck me in and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   maybe it's just down to having spent too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:47   much time playing haunted house games or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:50   games where I'm exploring house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:51   actually manipulating items in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   and really feeling like I'm part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55   story as opposed to just watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57   through the eyes of the character who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59   doing all this stuff but it just it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   never grabbed me but but your point your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:04   point is absolutely right i mean if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:05   if if this game had pulled me in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:08   way then i would say absolutely this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10   a far superior medium for this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13   than a book but for me it just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:16   pistols at dawn no actually you leech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:19   you just have to make a cassette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:20   its a mix tape mixtape tapes it on okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:24   yeah it's gonna be alright girl stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:27   hope you're cool with that job out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   they're definitely weaknesses to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:30   story in the way that like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:34   want to see the strings and you do see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   them a little bit too much here and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:37   feel for them because it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:38   incredibly that's what am i bringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   journey and what makes journey so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:41   amazing at least in the first place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   me is like you cannot see the strings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:44   and everything seemed to work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:45   perfectly that's almost impossible to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   and there's a little bit too much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   if I had to change this game around i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:50   would say I fewer things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   pointless so you wouldn't be spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   milk cartons for no reason and like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   its I kind of know what they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   to change to make it better but the it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   when it comes down to the details like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:01   geez this is a really really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   problem and so it is extremely difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   to make this type of game so that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:08   I think they did enough of it here where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:09   I'm going to give it a thumbs up in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10   and totally endorse the game in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   it worked for me but it doesn't reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   you no guarantees level for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:15   not even close but still recommended see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   and journey worked wonderfully for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:19   and I think a lot of that was down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   the fact that there were actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:22   problems for you to solve in journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   they were difficult problems and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:25   were very unconventional and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:30   complained a little bit in the journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   episode about the fact that there wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   enough difficulty for me really to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   stretch the game out but it just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:40   simple fact that i had to solve some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   sort of problem gave me such a an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44   attachment to the character it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   made me feel like I was guiding this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   or you know it going farther i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   am this guy is he's exploring this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:53   and this there just wasn't anything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:54   this game to do that for me but and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56   think you know I think different parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:57   of games resonate with different people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   in different ways i mean i think some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:00   people really want that sense of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   challenge and achievement and overcoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:05   an obstacle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:06   you know a lot of games build off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07   that very heavily this game does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   almost at all right i mean they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   puzzles in this gamer so trivial you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   might as well not called and puzzles but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15   it's really strong in the story area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:16   which is you know other games are not or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18   in other games would be more about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   visuals and you know I think this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:21   does pretty well but for visuals but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   it's clearly more about the story I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   these characters in gone home feel more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28   real to me than any other video game i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   can remember that's one aspect of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:33   game but we haven't talked about that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:34   definitely true is that if you are for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   example like you know a kid who is gay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39   who grew up closet didn't have to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:40   out of your parents are like if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:41   actual personal residence with with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:44   situation and also it's a it's a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:47   that you don't often see in Games which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   I feel like this is like that's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:50   the extra attention this game is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:51   is because it's telling a story to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:54   people who normally don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:55   stories told because in that space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:56   marines or detectives you know what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   mean and that like that goes a long way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   towards you know giving this game a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02   boost in that it's a story even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:05   you're not even if you can't directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:06   emphasize with the things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:07   happening because none of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:08   happened in your family or whatever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   maybe a story that you haven't played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:11   there before I've been the grizzled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2891">TS</a>]

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00:48:15   haven't been the daughter coming home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:16   from Europe you've been a little space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18   detective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:18   yes I've been the gristle space that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   only once and i've been i've been linked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   many many times i actually have been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24   confused lesbian though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:25   yes well it was College Steve yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:28   we did like this but it sounds young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30   I'm going to hit the pause button one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2910">TS</a>]

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00:49:30   brothers brothers a tale of two sons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:33   available on xbox and playstation and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:38   this on pc to yes it is that's where i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40   played it all right i played this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:43   xbox actually came here seen did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:48   have got like every console for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2988">TS</a>]

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00:49:53   every last generation console now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:56   yes I am state-of-the-art from 2008 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/2996">TS</a>]

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00:50:01   i'm gonna going to watch the x-files VHS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:04   is and make some mixtapes then but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06   you're talking you know you talk down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   your gamer credit but you got some men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   have no credit i have the boxes with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12   those games that I don't finish so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   potential energy versus kinetic legs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:17   thank you thank you to the energy her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:20   yeah statements teasingly energy can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   never truly be destroyed by one relay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   the games I just never played violin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27   playing games because the podcast that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:28   my new that's my new traveling excuse so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   brothers uh from Star values about two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33   brothers it's about brothers it's a tale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36   of two sons they are the sons of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   parents the same parents dust brothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:40   you're not going to get me my opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:42   statement refers to make anyone do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   have an opening statement about this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:45   yeah we need to find her off the full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   display board first John yeah no I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:50   think you need to fire it off but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:51   think this is a good way to frame this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:52   is all I will frame it then you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   will go nuts and i will pick up any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:55   scraps that you got at the end because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57   as I said I thought gone home was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:58   successful this and so the creators of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   this game are so very clearly fans of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:03   one of my favorite games of all time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05   eco which I've been trying to get us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07   successful and write both my third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:10   person adventure games with two main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:11   characters both of them don't require a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   lot of skill to play both we have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:14   emphasis on cooperation and both of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   emphasize the emotional impact / like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   fancy gameplayer puzzles like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:22   the danger of basing being heavily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:25   inspired by one of my hair games all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:26   times that i will constantly compare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:27   your game to one of my favorite games of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29   all time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:29   and in the case of brothers i did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:32   and found it lacking and I have a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   list of reasons that's the case but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   instead i will let you guys go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:37   anything that you don't get i will pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:39   up my first note just says eco plus lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3099">TS</a>]

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00:51:50   premise here is that these brothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:51   their father is ill mysteriously and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:54   they have to be set out to go across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   this world find a cure and the clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3116">TS</a>]

00:52:00   game mechanic that I think is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:03   that makes this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:04   the most notable and why people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   talked about it is you control both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   brothers the left thumbstick controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:11   the big brother and the right thumbstick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13   controls the little brother and the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:14   trigger is an action for the big brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   in the left trigger right trigger is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:18   action for the little brother I also say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   that my wife compared John compared this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:23   to eco while we were playing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:26   it is very obvious because we got to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   point where there's the word that where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   they meet the girl and they rescue her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:31   from from being sacrificed or executed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:35   or whatever it happens to be and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:38   then for several you know points in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:41   story she comes along with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:42   characters and at one point my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   exclaimed she's smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:47   we it's not like that stupid girl in eco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:49   where you have to hold her hand and drag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:50   her around terrible just terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:54   I know so that there you go but uh so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:58   anyway yes so that so I I have thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:01   about this too but I I'm gonna throw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:02   out to the rest of the panel by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   we did you let your wife see the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   the game and how that turns out with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:09   oh yeah we like with journey we actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12   played this game kind of handing it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:15   back and forth and the kids actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   watched watched us as we played this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   game so all of it i'm curious because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21   that is a little olive it takes it take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   to now the tone a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:26   it does i play the beginning with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   kids and then kept playing after they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:29   went to sleep and I said okay I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30   bringing the kids back into the skin on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   my kids are old enough now that it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:33   today was my real your seven-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:36   son enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:37   yeah if they don't find out about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   spiders cities in your house and find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   out of metal ok ok but I I what's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   sound I hear coming for the distance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:44   it's all know the spoiler horn again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:52   alright so we should we should spoil it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54   all we like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:55   alright so i haven't played ego alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   so i'll just come out there today then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:58   everyone playstation alright you're off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   the podcast your help you're a terrorist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:02   podcast is over and I can lend you one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04   I'm totally cool with that and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:07   really really like yeah I'm for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   situation that I forgot earlier with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   game i've not played it by I i know of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   it so I but i will say I I experienced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:16   this game in a in a vacuum not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   compared it to that game in the game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   John Cena killing again that is good is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   to remind me the most of his journey of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   attorney was absolutely is very yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26   there it's not the same game it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:28   much not the same an attorney but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   are many things in it that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:30   reminiscent of journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   although apparently now every game that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:33   aspires to art has to have that swelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:36   string music that's what that's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   the reasons why I thought of a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:39   want this to be journey to ferment it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   was the I mean again I play a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   other games that are much more involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45   and so something where the control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:48   scheme is so simple as to be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:49   basically transparent right like once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:52   you know move do things right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   everything else is contained within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:55   world of the game which is basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:58   exact same thing for journey right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3298">TS</a>]

00:54:59   once you know how do we like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:00   seeing you know jumper wouldn't move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:03   around like that is all you need to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   about what buttons to press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07   everything else is really about what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   do inside the game world to have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11   effect inside the game world and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13   thought the mechanic was really clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:14   like I mean it took some time to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:17   I was constantly like I had to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:18   that I tried to keep the big brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20   growing on the laughing over the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   otherwise like ok they're running your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   direction was going on and I got pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   like I got to into like the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   section the game before dying which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:31   which was good because i was like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:32   you can't really die in this game and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   was like well how do youhow did you died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   and they've got lots of stuff determine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38   if you died there they are big on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40   invisible walls in this game and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:41   like oh yeah but there are some plates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43   and the mind off kind of elevate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45   mind crush by rocks and there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   a battleground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:48   yeah i'll actually had complaints about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50   the control scheme i thought i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52   it was too unwieldy with the two sticks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   and you know the thing with journey is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:57   it it it felt completely natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:00   almost immediately it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:01   more it's more complicated injure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03   and this game I constantly felt like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05   was fighting a control scheme i never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   forgot that I was holding a control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:08   that's the whole point of getting on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10   whole point of the game is you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12   have to be cooperating with yourself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   you have to coordinate the action and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:15   there's the holder in Mexico against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   you've gotta coordinate these two it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19   just it for something that aspires to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21   the kind of experience that journey was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23   that's that's a big obstacle in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   and yet the second one is the insistence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:26   on using the analog triggers as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:30   digital controls that just I mean I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32   not sure what else you would use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:33   accepted wonder why students have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35   own problems but yeah if I to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:38   playstation controller i wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:39   this problem but with the xbox this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   triggers they'll kill you every time ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   know our climbing with yeah you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   do a lot of like catch release catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47   release and I could be annoying if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:48   have to do against Ryland about me there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   but then again I do a lot of games that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:51   you like hold us down for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53   seven-year-old son had to take a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:54   breaks yeah but i like that i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:59   whole that was what made this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01   interesting to me from a gameplay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:02   standpoint was the fact that it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:05   know that was the the puzzle the puzzle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:08   was to do these different actions with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11   the different characters and they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   different interaction and they and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   different capabilities and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:18   manifested in a bunch of different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:19   he's gotta hop up here and then he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21   put down the rope and then the other guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:22   can climb up or they some of them have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   to work together some of them may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:25   to work in opposition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   there's the one where there's the dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:28   that's running around ya gotta you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:31   one has to distract the dog while the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33   other one runs and then the other has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:34   do it may have to move back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36   and I really like that it wasn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   wasn't easy and I like that I could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:41   it not I could figure it out but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   wasn't like I was just on Rails I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   just walking through to the next thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47   that I had to think about right what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49   right but but it never did did you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   have to like think about it think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   it that's was gonna compare yeah you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:54   is because like eco has puzzles that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56   have to think about where is this game I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   always knew immediately what they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   me to do and it was fairly easy to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   that's what I'm saying there was a low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:03   skill Barry there's more but more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:04   coordination is required definitely like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06   oh you're not just moving one guy around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   so that's why would say for non-gamers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   is probably high barrier but in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:11   like boy I'm stuck in this puzzle can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13   figure out what to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:14   is much more likely to happen in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16   game like ego then then this one I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:18   like this in every situation I knew what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:20   they wanted me to do and executed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:21   more or less on the first round I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   I'd never die didn't think you could die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   oh thats see but there were you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:26   think there were times for me when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28   like well i tried something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:29   realized like okay that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31   approach they want me to take but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:32   thought was just like so the very early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   on there's a part where you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:35   drawbridge in the treadmill and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:36   to light so you can you realize oh one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   of the brothers can get the treadmill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:39   and lower it and the other guy could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   across and how to get both of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:42   across so i tried for a while I start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44   piling sheep hit escape before heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46   enough to keep the comforts down which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:48   incidentally is hilarious because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:49   they're now yeah I did that to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   because it's just because it's fun yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53   I know I spent some time playing but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   did that because I thought it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:56   valid solution and finally realize i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:58   going to put the ship and refine my son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   greatly enjoyed dropping them into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:01   wall yesterday really from the wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   i love that because then they come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:04   another one this like lively comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   of the little farmhouse is he like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08   shit that comes out of the shed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10   yeah they should have they should have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:11   a spin-off game just with the Sheep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   Michael yeah I like I do like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:16   animals in this game but I don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:19   was for me there were things i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:22   saying required like a super long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:24   and they're definitely puzzles and games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:25   that have our way harder than this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:26   it was that nice balance of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28   something that was not so hard you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   like banging your head against the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:31   trying to figure out what was not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   easy that you're just like I'm walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35   through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:35   I thought I I thought I hit that sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37   spot really nicely I mean I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:38   their other games that a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:39   challenging and even games I like where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:42   I hid the point of frustration that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:44   stopped right and hopefully i go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   the next day or you know later that week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   there's some games were frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:49   enough it's like i'm done with that game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   for a long time if not forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   yeah and this never had that problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:54   i'll admit it's pretty you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56   challenges are pretty simple pretty soft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:58   but I felt like that they were they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   but I felt like that they were they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   that really nice sweet spot where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   kept moving forward right you felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:02   you could figure this out and keep going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:04   and I never felt like at this game i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:07   not playing anymore right you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:08   is stupid i can't figure out what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10   supposed to do just clever enough for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:11   like oh yes i got it to hold my interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13   in keeping I don't think there are any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   challenging puzzles in this game of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   control scheme is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   challenging but they're challenging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:20   puzzles and this is not to say that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:21   think challenge is essential for a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   game because journey has like zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:24   challenge it's like one of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26   games of all time so you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:27   challenge to make a google at least he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29   has more challenge than this by a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31   though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:31   well I mean I don't anyway though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   whole point is I don't think you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:34   challenge make a good game but here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:36   what you do need you need you need a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:39   so you need something else to overcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   any kind of gameplay that is as brutally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:43   Leonard linear as brothers is like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   need like journey level of awesomeness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:46   to make you forget that you're being led [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   down a single long car door with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:49   invisible walls also yes as a music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51   atmosphere you need like emotions you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   need some intellectual engagement need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   something right and eco is less linear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:58   then brothers our journey because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3658">TS</a>]

01:00:59   can kind of wander all over and do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:00   this stuff but it really is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   linear a bit but there's more Challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04   mentally to the puzzles and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   free-roaming nature like let's fix you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:07   out into making you think that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09   not you're not being like that i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:10   i-i don't I mean I played eco I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:13   mean to me they're different games I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:14   don't I mean the scope of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:17   completely different ego is a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18   larger cargo but the whole thing makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   you feel like you're not into Carter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:21   brothers were just killing me with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23   linearity because it was at one point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:24   climbed up a wall for the for the 10,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:27   time and once again that I know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:28   climb also to people's thank you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   need the same challenge million times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:31   and I realized it was like a baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   penguin rescuing side mission that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   missed somehow I got gonna go back down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37   the wall and do that and it wouldn't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:38   me go back down the wall to do it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:39   can still see the side mission that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41   had failed to do like not only with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:42   linear it was like slamming doors behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44   me as i went down this invisible wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   Carter and if you're not going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   challenging puzzles and you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   have linear gameplay like you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:52   need to pick something else there like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:54   bit journey has zero challenge it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56   incredibly linear and at no point did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58   ever get that feeling of like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   Brailled in I I think you're mistaken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:01   journey has challenged to it challenges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:04   not the big thing it but journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:05   certainly challenging their stuff where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   you feel threatened in journey you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:08   to overcome obstacles i think all games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   have an element [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:11   Challenge otherwise you'd be completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:12   bored yeah I guess you do feel you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:14   feel a sense of threat but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:15   inherently general use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17   you literally can't die though I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:18   now you know he's not the only offset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:21   back yet not all but that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:22   thing about journey as you you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:24   really thought that you couldn't die in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26   that game i remembered that the flying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:29   dragon creature whatever taking me out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31   and thinking oh that finally has decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33   to kill me and that's in fact that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35   ridiculous thing about games that death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37   is overused as the single punishment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:39   there's lots of ways you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:40   punished you can get things taken away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:41   and get pushback video is your scholarly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43   get you know yet our death is a cop-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:46   right i mean that's like you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   will because it's the one thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:49   breaks the narrative it doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:50   that you write on the pit but guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:52   i want that here right enter a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54   games where they do funny things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56   time travel or no the prince of persia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:57   games are actually noteworthy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59   it's like being narrated you follow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:00   pit and the narrator says that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02   what happened and you jump back but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:04   but no death is overused as the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06   this is how you fall back and that's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:08   mean I think during is a classic example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10   you can have challenged without death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   sure you can and that and that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:14   in other games i'm a big fan of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:15   graphic adventure games and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:16   that were there is challenging their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:18   obstacles but you don't die you're even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:21   you know something really great games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:22   for you can't get into an irrevocable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:23   situation right now that's what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:25   thinking was getting stuck like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:26   think you talking about for we like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   don't know what to do next in this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:29   and I'm frustrated you know like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:31   what I talked about like in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:32   challenge like where you're where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:33   have to put the controller down and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:34   I forget it i'm going to come back this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36   because you're frustrated because of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:37   mechanic or because you have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39   what to do and that never happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:41   journey which is a great thing about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:42   is you never you never will get stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   unless you really don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:45   coordination just move the guy along and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:47   it doesn't happen in this game either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:48   but this game is lacking all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:51   that journey has to make it so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:52   you're willing to walk down a big long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:53   corridor with invisible walls and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55   feel like you're so yeah I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57   that I agree with that either because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   don't like the thing that the for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:00   made this game was the relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:02   between the brothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:03   I mean and again really touching and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05   it's not it's not like on homework like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07   all right we're going to tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:08   everything about this you know the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10   the details right vector the language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:11   that they speak is basically impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:13   to understand right you can kind of pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15   up stuff from context but you're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17   gonna understand the full import of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:18   I also i mean the only thing I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:20   going into this game was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:21   have been compared to journey and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:22   first I was kind of skeptical as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:24   this is not the scale and scope of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:25   journey i really like journey but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   think this game had a really great slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:28   build i mean i really liked the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30   saw the relationship between the between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32   the brothers you know the stuff about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:33   their two different parents even as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   way it expanded from you know your first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:37   kind of puzzles are like there's a jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39   with a stick who won't let you get past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41   a you know a bridge and you have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:42   around two later you know your kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:45   your running across this field and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:46   dogs chasing you to then there are these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48   things they're like actually kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:49   foreign and hostile and creepy and weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:51   and otherworldly and it's like it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   actually fire one of the brothers in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:54   in a catapult that one yeah you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56   this actually happening or you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   this real or is this the the imagination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   of the younger brother has become the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   way that is commanded to me was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04   amazing i mean when the first our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:06   maybe half hours like man people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   comparing this journey there you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10   don't know I'm not with them but then at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:11   the end of music swells and suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13   it's snowy and I'm like oh yeah okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:16   really are trying to be any now really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18   talked about the end yet but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20   you get to the end and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:22   brothers dies and it's like well as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   game to be over now how you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   basically that last I don't 20-25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28   minutes where you're playing as little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   surviving brother i kept being how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:32   longer can this game be because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   feels weird and wrong and like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:35   sounds like somebody's having another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:37   game that I played before but that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   one to one truly moving thing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:41   story for me for me that the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:44   brothers in their relationship was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:45   just so generic they didn't do much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:48   the older brothers the serious one and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:49   little one of those buckets of water on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   sleeping people okay I get that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:54   at the end when the younger brother is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:57   on his own and the thing that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:58   to do in order to push him forward and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:01   and and you know for its kind of forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:03   his fear of of water and jump up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:06   cliff that he doesn't think he's talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:08   to get up to is to use the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:09   brothers button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:10   yes that was little I can one very cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:13   moving thing I thought is that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:16   worked well in the story which only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:17   works after training you write three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:20   actually and and3 that was brilliant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:22   today even thinking about now I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:23   chills i may have played too many games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25   to have telegraphed that but I give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:27   props hiring i don't know i don't like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:29   lot of games you know how you did I ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:32   kinda saw that come every like maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:34   sound like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:34   already here and I'm not saying I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36   like this game because like that's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:37   don't want people to know I didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:38   that like you should totally buy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:39   and play this game like it's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41   game to my players just the only reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43   I have all these huge list of negatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:44   that we really good for you it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46   that because i'm comparing at the eco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48   and you should also kinda yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50   should also play journey you should also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:51   play you know shadows of the Colossus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:53   these are all games you should play but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:54   brothers is a great game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:55   I mean you mentioned eco and getting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:58   that moment where you where you get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:00   some games we get frustrated and I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:02   come back later i gotta put it down one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:04   of the things that I appreciate about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:04   this game and that is is that I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:08   got to that point I had to sometimes sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:10   there and think okay where do i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12   go here but it didn't take too long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:14   I'd I got to be honest I don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:17   if a game makes me so frustrated that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:20   have to turn it off and come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:21   another day a bunch of times so now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:23   nobody likes it nobody likes and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:25   balance of like when does that happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:26   you you know I mean like it if some game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:29   some people are that frustrated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:31   journey and that games are a game is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:33   good for them so everything has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:34   targeted a certain level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:35   understanding it from from my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37   this game had no challenge that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:39   and I said it's not a bad thing journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:40   had zero challenge for me as well in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42   terms of like not understanding what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:43   do I always understood what to do and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45   could execute it reasonably well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:46   that's fine you can still have a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:48   game like that but you need other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50   to offset it at least for me well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:51   there's different elements of challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:52   to right there's the the mental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54   challenge of trying to figure out what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:55   the how do I solve this puzzle or where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:57   I go next what do I do and there's games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:59   that have like I got frustrated with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:00   game earlier this week that was playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:01   because it was too much of a like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:03   was a reaction challenge where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:04   all right I'm just not fast enough and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06   we're aiming well enough to to defeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:09   this boss it's like and that I just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:10   so frustrated quicktime event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12   yeah like oh my god but you had 26 times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:14   and it keeps resetting me back and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:15   have to go through this part that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:17   gotten good at but I got stuck at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:18   second part it's just like that to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:20   just so annoying that i'm going to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22   that game down but like there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:24   couple things with brothers work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:25   like I mean that i did spend a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:27   on the one puzzle the first time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   you you tied a rope to each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31   you do the swinging puzzle like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:33   took me a little bit of time like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35   just figure out like all right I got up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:36   here with the Rope okay how do I get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:37   there and once I did figure out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:39   okay all right you know i I've mastered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:40   that but like it is interesting how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:43   know there are moments that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:44   challenging without necessarily being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   like it's not sure really challenged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:47   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:48   even their kind of challenges you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:49   kind of read her kind of there on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51   side that you can do if you want I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53   for me I you know I was playing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   xbox and achievements the pop-up when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57   you do things and brothers was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:58   interesting in that all the achievements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   were for things that were kind of off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:01   the beaten path and like I found the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:03   first one of those and then it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05   you know a you know I like getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07   achievements because I got no challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:09   to me i want i got i got nine out of 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:12   the first time through and I went Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:14   I have achievements turned off when i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:16   in game because of all that concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:18   but I think I like that like I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20   mainly because i liked in this game you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:22   know you didn't need to get any of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:24   but they were like letting you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:26   there were these little things off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:27   path that you could find you can explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29   so as i was playing brothers it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:30   I was always looking for what's all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32   little side quest i want it i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   experience all the parts of the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:35   that they designed right and i missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:37   three out of 12 on the first playthrough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:39   and i went back and found this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:40   it's like I want to see all the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:42   side passages of this game because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44   were all extremely cute like the funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46   little interest or not no or not it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48   well yeah it turns out there's also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:50   you know there's this how you feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:51   hands and said you'd so Dan mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:54   gameplay mechanics and I you know I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:57   wasn't hard to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4197">TS</a>]

01:10:00   there's a mechanic where the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:01   brothers have to grasp this this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:04   and like they need to move it forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:05   and and then and then move it left and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:08   there are a couple of able to drag a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:09   piece of wood right there are a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:12   things like that that i enjoyed just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:15   fact that oh I've gotta you know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:17   going to move them independently or I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:18   got a pivot one forward and one back it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20   was not particularly complicated but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:22   there was it kind of a joy in 10 this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:26   different i haven't done something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:27   this and that was weirdly satisfying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:28   also that you had figured it out right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30   like the beginning you first have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:32   pick up the wheelbarrow with your dad in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:33   it's like all right go away i can push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35   with both the guys alright i'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:37   this you know and then the part where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39   it's like there's you have to navigate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:40   like the pipe through like a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:41   made to like jam one of the graves and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:44   was like oh I can do this very smoothly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:45   now like you know have been practiced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47   this for a while like there is a sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:48   of achievement there and it is well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:50   there's no stupid tutorial mode right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:51   it's like going to start senior year you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:53   know your you have to figure out press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:55   this button press this button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:56   alright that's what you need to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:57   John has has played games for probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4257">TS</a>]

01:11:00   several hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:01   red times longer than I have in total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:03   game time if not thousand but when i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:07   at the end of the game when the young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09   brother is at the water that experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:13   was really good because and so my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:17   is watching this and and she's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:20   pretty outraged at the fact that the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:22   brother had died because she's like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   the hell what the hell was that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26   actually I what about the slow sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:27   where you had to bury him how God is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:30   a man not a man yeah she's like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:33   what is this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:34   it seemed a little curl press x to dig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:36   it to dig a shallow grave that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38   to me because I ice set the game aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:41   for a while and i came back to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:42   and bren came in and I let me show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:45   this game I've been playing and I came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:47   right back into the part with where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:48   turns into a specter it was like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50   right I totally ruin this game for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:52   sorry and then she's watching me as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:54   like Derek my brother like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:56   I'm so sorry I'm proud of you on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:59   plus side they don't make you dig the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:00   hole they have continued my drag the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02   body in and cover it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:04   they just make you dump the dirt on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:05   brother's lifeless course sobbing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:07   whole wage used to get off joe pesci I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:10   fine i think the whole with this first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:12   hole I dug yeah so so but some say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:15   the water i'm back that the Griffin foul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:18   creature has brought me back to home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20   i'm i'm at the water and I i I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:23   thinking okay how what's what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25   solution here i run i trigger i run i go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:27   over here too i climb and nothing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:29   working and so you know that's 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:32   seconds or not and then I i'm looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:34   it and then I think oh yeah right i need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:38   to i I need to use the brothers controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:41   like I would have done before and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:43   press the trigger and you hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:45   brother and the boy ventures often too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:47   even though he's afraid of the water and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:49   he can't swim to get across and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:52   moment for me was really affecting even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:55   though I I to roll my eyes at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57   brother dying and being well this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:58   very much manipulative but but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:01   payoff I felt like was really powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:03   now my wife is sitting there watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   and she just sees me start swimming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:07   she gets to the end she's like well that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:09   was really lame and I said no no I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:11   use the brothers consider another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:12   difference the difference between you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:14   having played the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:15   and her watching the game is true thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17   about games because you were the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:18   doing it not just after she had seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:20   earlier part of the games it's different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:21   when you are doing it and the thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   just have to earlier about like feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25   good about having figured out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:26   maneuver that's something that I i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:28   mentioned in the journey podcast where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:29   you don't do much in journey just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:32   of like float around and fly and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:33   but there's enough there's enough a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:35   variation in there that you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:37   you by the end of the game you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:39   pulling off moves with finesse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:40   that's why talk about the final level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:41   and journey where you get to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:43   Superman now I'm really good at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:45   whole scar flying business and watch me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:47   show my stuff and that's your and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:48   why you you get the little park of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:50   i have now learned how to navigate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:53   wheelbarrow with two people and I can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:54   up the cliff or whatever that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   biggest fault i think for in brothers is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:58   that maybe they have you can do some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4438">TS</a>]

01:13:59   the same things too many times but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:01   that's just because that's how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:02   times more people need more repetition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:05   to master it whereas if you master the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:06   first time then the 17-time you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:08   climbing up the walls like whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10   that you know that's that it that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:13   games are going for and I'm glad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:14   you got an attitude even if I didn't in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:16   this particular game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:17   well i gotta to and I I'd I audibly was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:19   like you know when I figured it out i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:20   sitting there and I just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:22   oh my god like you know I had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:23   moment of I know what are you doing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:25   I know what I need to do and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:27   you know that to me that payoff is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29   it I know I i have that at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:30   the game i was talking about like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:31   the him saying he was satisfied like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:33   now I know how to swing on the ropes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:35   like get along like that now the ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:37   part it's definitely working i regard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39   but I I do have my long litany of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:40   complaints and you guys you guys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:42   chokes what if i get if i can quickly go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:44   through them and and uh yes please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:48   please move rapidly through the long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:50   with me I'll just be here nodding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:52   and then at the end of what will try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:54   say how good the game is to try to I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:55   gonna go get a drink go ahead job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:57   alright so world design I brothers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4497">TS</a>]

01:15:02   brothers this item [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:03   yes brother yes brothers straight that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05   right herself medical and heads runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07   like straight-up medieval fantasy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:09   the only possible to us is like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11   bit of over saturated color and slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:12   cartoonish character proportions and eco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:14   like a and everything is compared with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:16   ego is like as the muted color palette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:18   thing which is totally also a trope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:20   goes on there but i have to give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:23   nautique in terms of being more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:24   distinctive like this look a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:25   generic to me a lot of it has to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27   the fact that uses unreal engine 3 which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:28   if you're a gamer you've seen a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:30   times before like I you know I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:33   unreal engine games look like this looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:34   like an unreal engine game which is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:36   and egos engine was novel an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:38   night wasn't the unreal engine though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:39   was the setting the setting was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:41   unbelievably generic yeah actually might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:43   be my seven-year-old son recognized all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45   of the various tropes and and knew what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   to do with them without having to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:48   told ya it didn't seem like it had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:50   a big style message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:52   did he call the that the pretty girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:55   that they saved from their horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:56   execution turned out to be a murderous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:58   spider lady now he didn't get to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4558">TS</a>]

01:15:59   part because his fingers fell off from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:01   the triggers that was actually for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:02   shadow which i thought was clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:03   yeah it was it was very well fortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:05   the wall where the sacrificing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:07   fighting off giant spiders and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:08   super creepy and the fact that she leaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:10   like 800 yards the first time hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:12   like mean I wasn't marmol yeah that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:16   language barrier thing again comparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:18   with eco which also has characters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:19   don't speak the language that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:20   speaking right and both have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:22   limited set of phrases that the players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:24   repeat you know the so similar in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:26   these regards and in this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:28   thing I i found that you know in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:32   brothers understanding the intent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34   spoken words was more important to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   gameplay and it was also more difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38   for me to understand what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:39   saying like an eco you press the key to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:42   call someone and make some noise and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:43   person comes you like that must be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:44   calling noise but and brothers they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:46   these long run subtitled dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:48   sequences that it's like I'm I get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:50   gist of what you're saying but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:52   going to be talking that long with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:53   sometimes I want to actually know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:54   you're saying I felt like I was being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:55   left out of the experience of my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:57   name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:57   well it's so meaningless was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:58   conversation clearly that the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:00   would swell at those points and drown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:02   out what the guy was saying at least on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:04   the pc version it was just like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06   still too much talking 44 not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08   understanding what they're doing and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:10   good example for me is like the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:11   beginning of the game what is the goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13   of the game you know a journey like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:15   throne mountain your face in eco is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:17   old uh you know try to escape and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:19   brothers I kind of got the idea was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:21   I do something to help save this guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:23   is your dad I assume right but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:25   what am i what am I getting my looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:27   for medicine i'm looking for magic am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:29   going to find a person and bring your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:30   diagonal entry it's under control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:32   read the drive you all right now but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:35   like it was it like what is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:36   world treating you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:38   your brother's the only ones in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:39   world that don't know exactly where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:41   tree is yeah there's a scroll which way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:44   to the other side of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:45   oh that's right over there there and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:46   know like these are because they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:48   you to part of his they want you to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:50   to figure out from context which is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:52   of fun 4head is a language I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:53   but I'm going to fear from context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:54   what's going on and that's fine it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:56   felt like they did a little bit too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:58   of leaving me out of the game that i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4678">TS</a>]

01:17:59   playing just a little bit too much just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:01   make it make it up use your imagination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:03   just maybe maybe that power was too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:04   challenging for me I think whatever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06   cover the gameplay thing with the baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:07   penguin that does uh you know i mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:09   wasn't a challenge was essential the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:11   game but like a baby penguin linearity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:13   bothered me out of the two player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4693">TS</a>]

01:18:14   experience obviously that's what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:16   game is all about you know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:18   different 2 player take on that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:19   then then journey or eco your journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:22   the second player is another person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:23   which totally changes the equation makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:25   it very and you don't need the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:26   player but I think with the second place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:27   that's totally different and another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:29   human is way more interesting than AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31   and way more engaging you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:33   you're playing with an eco the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:34   players AI which is the worst case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:37   that's like one long terrible escort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:38   mission and if you played lots of games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:40   you like I'll cut them i got it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42   gonna try to get this other thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:44   just about that as i recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:46   yes but in the best case you become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48   engaged that you are like protecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:51   your little computer friend in the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:53   and the computer friend in the game as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:54   little bit more pliable than human print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:56   I think with with the two player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:59   experience the I mean I worked great for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:02   the gameplay but then the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:04   like when you when you have a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:05   where you kill him and you feel like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:06   being manipulated he gets killed off or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:08   whatever i do other things without 1i he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:12   dies and I'm like okay so is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:15   something I could do to get the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:16   ending where he doesn't die but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:17   my immediate thought right you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:18   have you after that happens I call and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:21   you shouldn't be really having that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:22   thought but like that that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:24   thinking and the second one is I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:28   forgot the variable seen the pork barrel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:30   seen that redhead on the interactive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:32   burial seem like that is actually been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:33   done before as well which is fine i and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:36   i thought the the winter is a slight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:38   spoiler for the walking dead sorry but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:40   he you know that's the same type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:42   interactive barriers in the walking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4782">TS</a>]

01:19:43   line everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:44   londa good and I think it's because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:47   I mean maybe it's harder for your degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:51   for a player that you were controlling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:52   or what am i doing my grieving for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:54   left thumb like it's not quite the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:56   as grieving for like grieving for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:58   another player character in the game or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:00   even another human player a mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:02   works because you're breathing for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:03   brother but like at that point it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:04   okay well now the controls got a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06   easier and like I mean is just a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:08   thing to do but he had hard to control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4808">TS</a>]

01:20:11   these my brother but my left hand has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:12   nothing to do now I could I could I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:15   concluded for this podcast John does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:17   have a brother nor has he ever met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:18   anyone with the Bible you how I do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:20   a brother but like the best lighting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:22   that guy is doomed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:24   I thought I thought I don't control them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:26   with my other thumb but I thought more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:27   than what i'm going to hope not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:29   how is your brother at pulling the legs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:32   off of giant spiders be good at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:34   yeah I thought way more attached to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:37   human beings and I play journey with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:40   the AI player that I protected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:42   throughout eco than I did with his other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:43   player that I was controlling because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:45   felt like I'm still alive like in just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:47   half of me is not innovating that worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:49   in the later scenes where the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:50   in the game was upset by that and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:52   getting across the water and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:53   the dead mother and everything it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:55   of worked out but not i mean maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:58   was just the way they paced the burial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4858">TS</a>]

01:20:59   seen or whatever I just it it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:01   missing something for me and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:03   what it was missing is because like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:04   things that were good about it that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:06   got to control players for the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:07   game worked against it when they killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:09   one of them off because i felt like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:10   was still like half alive you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:12   mean I mean I call that kind successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:13   in some ways I mean like the you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:16   don't you mention think about the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:17   ending and i that made me think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:19   mass effect just because that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:21   case where there are characters that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:23   die permanently if you do the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25   thing and for me it was always i only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:27   played through those games once but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:29   know like Jason tosses occasionally on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:31   the podcast is played through more times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:33   than I care to think about and he'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:35   talk about like all the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:35   endings I'm like but in my world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:37   this guy is dead like this character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:39   that would even occur to me to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:41   and like oh I should go back and replay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:43   it so that he remains alive no he's dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:45   and that would be disrespecting his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:46   memory r.i.p left thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:48   yeah the ending at the ending of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:49   one you know to completely spot you end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51   up in a situation where the brothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53   dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:54   the dad is alive and the mother died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:55   previously again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:56   and it's like is this a fair trade like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4916">TS</a>]

01:21:58   if you had not given the father would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4918">TS</a>]

01:22:00   have died but you're not your brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:01   still alive right now because this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:04   factory condition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:05   it just seems like the funding also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:07   to just to wrap things up nicely before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:09   the end credits the final scene is them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:11   now there are two gravestones out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:12   tree behind the house and the dad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:14   sobbing uncontrollably later in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:17   always just like I wanted it hold it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:19   hold it in the distance you see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:21   groupon thing flying by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:23   he's on his way back to get the older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:24   brother know and I hate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:26   by the way I hate the fact that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:28   happened he's just going back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30   tree to have some more cool leaves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32   spiderleg well he knows where there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:34   easy meal that's why he's headed back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:36   there i think i think the end of it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:37   me i was turned around he was elected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:38   and for the rest of his life his father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:39   can never meet his eyes again and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:41   like it kind of comes to that and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:43   like wow this is way darker than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:44   thought it was gonna be added by the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:46   of this game when I was thinking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:47   myself as well just another day in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:49   grim blood so funny giant that offering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:51   yourself in a dreamworld the brothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:53   I mean it's just like this place is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:55   our man i do not want to live here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:57   you just need a music place that'll put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4977">TS</a>]

01:22:58   you right out of it but just wait till [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:01   the sequel brother at a loved one son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:04   and one very sad father now the fact the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:07   fact that the Griffin is flying back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:09   get the older brother kinda ticked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:10   off because I what I saw as as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:13   obvious kind of a dark here is at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:16   beginning the little brother is he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:18   consumed with guilt for the death of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:20   the drowning death of his mother and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:23   know is spending his life grieving and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:25   what I was expecting to see at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:27   was as the father kind of falls apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:29   the the younger brother having been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:31   strengthened by his experience with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:32   older brother than you know kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:34   pulls his father out of it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:35   realize that you know there are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:37   worth living for and they kind of move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:38   on with life and that that would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:40   made some sense a little of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:42   older brother's death and i'd i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:44   appreciate that ending a lot more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:46   then the two possible endings we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:49   here which is one everybody's dead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:51   everybody sad half of them are dead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:53   half of them yes I or something there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:57   a happy ending that's about to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5037">TS</a>]

01:23:58   with the groupon flying back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5038">TS</a>]

01:23:59   retrieving the brother who was buried in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:01   the dirt outside the tree of life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:03   therefore is resurrected although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:04   probably slightly were made it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06   back as a zombie in the next game you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:08   have to kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:08   admit that cemetery brothers a tale of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:11   one son and one zombie but with three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:15   then get back together the mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:16   suddenly rises from the sea and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:17   have to fight her off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:19   yeah there was a moment when when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:21   in the ice the ice fields and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5061">TS</a>]

01:24:22   icebergs and all of that and again that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:24   was the way they have to row the boat is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:26   interesting is another interesting game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:27   mechanic where where there's mountains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:29   off in the distance and I can't wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:30   see if one of them had that beam of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:32   light coming out of it like journey it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:34   just over there but I'll other like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:36   i wanted to mention is i like how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:38   like the trolls are used in this i found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:40   out that sort of tickled me that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:41   there's a patrol that you meet who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5081">TS</a>]

01:24:43   like totally terrifying except it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:45   out that he's really friendly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:46   helpful and helps you get where you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:48   to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:48   I really like that then later there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:50   level where you have to release a troll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:52   from a cage by stealing a key from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:54   another troll at and at that point then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:57   you have to lock the the the troll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:59   captor in the cage and then you see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:02   the troll that you've released is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:04   reunited with her you know beloved other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:06   troll and there's like this shrimp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:08   portion of the game yeah I didn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:10   that coming because when you first see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:11   the other girl here that zombies really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:13   bad what he said about yes I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5113">TS</a>]

01:25:15   would be good for kids like two people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:16   are hanging from trees and stuff maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5116">TS</a>]

01:25:19   not so good for can maybe the end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:21   gets a little later look about like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:24   like the top totally it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:26   it's a little bit too much easier pixie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:29   and it's more like a Grimm fairy tale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:31   yes actual script yet it's very totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:33   at I think tied to the grimm fairy tales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35   those were all nasty is how people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:38   always dying left and right and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:40   considered a happy ending right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:41   is the part for me when I got to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:43   we're getting a giant's for me and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:46   first I get anyone else having a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:47   ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:48   wait a second i think it's when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5148">TS</a>]

01:25:49   first time isn't in the tower you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:52   the tower first well yeah in the towers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:54   the first time write like that my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:55   thought was wait for it does it turn out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:57   that we're really small when everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5157">TS</a>]

01:26:00   related a blue twilight zone and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:02   had the Giants part where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:04   navigating through the battlefield and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:05   that was disturbing I mean there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:06   part where you have to like shoot the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5166">TS</a>]

01:26:08   crossbow not the guy that came into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:10   dead Giants night because Alice if thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:12   that's something I haven't done in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:13   game before i had not caused the giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:15   axe to fall to chop off someone's leg so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:17   I can pass through the linear car door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:19   of a game it was pretty brutal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:21   I mean yeah that's surprise my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:23   about that was hilarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:24   yes that's the thing is the hanging and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:26   the Giants getting chopped up that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:28   goes right over their heads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:29   you're not leaving until you paddle they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:30   can a canoe through a waterfall of blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5190">TS</a>]

01:26:33   but that was hardly growth has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:35   impersonating a monster the tone never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:37   really committed to like what when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:39   when you cut yourself in blood and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:40   on your brother shoulders like is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:41   slapstick comedy moment or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:43   horrifying because you're cutting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:44   and your brother when God and scary you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:46   know a little bit like this one side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   like it starts off very light-hearted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:50   and you can go like harder than get dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:52   or whatever but it's like light-hearted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:53   but then it gets like a dark but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:55   kind of slapstick and never quite knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:57   where it was going there just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59   teetering back and forth and then at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:00   end he really wants to go for the gut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:02   punch and it's like wow it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:04   have always liked was not know i mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:05   like that you're always one single tone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:07   I know but it's only a two-hour gate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5227">TS</a>]

01:27:10   minute I i like the transition I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5230">TS</a>]

01:27:11   it was cute the way it kind of like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:13   mean stuff gets darker and scarier and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:15   and I thought my head was going out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5235">TS</a>]

01:27:17   tonight that that was the point at which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:18   you know became interesting for me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:20   whole troll and mind sequence was all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:22   had been there done that and then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:24   they're out there with the wolves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:25   they're you know they run across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:27   guys hanging himself and this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:29   got a little bit more going for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:31   didn't have anyone not say it not say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:32   that here guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:34   no I think he liked you not have to i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:36   know you don't have to you can just let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:37   it go years let him hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39   you never do that no I didn't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:41   right I say we blew right through there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43   the people should play brothers I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:44   it's worth playing maybe I think more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5264">TS</a>]

01:27:46   than more than Steve I think it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:47   know you should play a game that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:49   no no I highly recommend people play it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:51   i think that the art was gorgeous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:53   although generic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:54   and in fact I thought it was nice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5274">TS</a>]

01:27:57   they placed benches at random areas just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5277">TS</a>]

01:27:59   matches the benches the most emblematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5279">TS</a>]

01:28:03   thing about how this game is inspired by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:06   ego but fails to live up to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5286">TS</a>]

01:28:07   standard is they put the benches in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:09   obviously as a direct homage to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:12   benches and ego which you sit on with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5292">TS</a>]

01:28:13   with your order to save you and they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:16   it in such a way it like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:18   okay we're gonna do this we love that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:19   any code we're going to put them in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:20   game but they made you hold down both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:23   triggers to stay on the bench the bench [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:25   is supposed to be relaxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:27   you can't make me tense both my fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:28   and hold my turn with them the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5308">TS</a>]

01:28:29   time to stay on the benches they missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31   the entire point of the benches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:33   oh my god that drove him insane i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:35   every time I saw every time I saw bench [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5315">TS</a>]

01:28:38   I got angry and Lee we don't know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:40   it what's it like being driven insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:41   i'm not really sure but please play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:44   short drives I've never met John in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5324">TS</a>]

01:28:46   person is there a thing that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:48   constantly throbs on a4a yes I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5328">TS</a>]

01:28:51   there is i'm all vain means all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:54   down sometimes it just blood squirts out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:56   of his eyes was talking I just couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5336">TS</a>]

01:29:01   i consider because i love it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:03   typewriters and resident evil like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:05   supposed to be an interlude it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5345">TS</a>]

01:29:06   supposed to be the nice music plays and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:08   everybody's come and we take a break and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:10   are you just hold down both these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:11   triggers hard as you can the whole done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5351">TS</a>]

01:29:12   otherwise you can't get the city can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:14   look at the nice scenery if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:15   know the triggers for students you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5355">TS</a>]

01:29:16   all one of them the cameras pans back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:18   and you don't look at the scenery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5358">TS</a>]

01:29:19   anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:19   I think you're holding your triggers too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:21   long yeah i think that that's out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:23   closet we're going to be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:24   lighter on the trigger finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:26   Thank You retaining something else to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5366">TS</a>]

01:29:27   let it out man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:29   are you there Steve it's me margaret I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:34   a little conflicted about the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:36   I had to to make the one white bunny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:38   become a black body in order for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:39   United that was a little distressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:41   yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5381">TS</a>]

01:29:42   nope you know that part didn't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:44   I had no 90 triangle slipped off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:47   only thing I got no trophies it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:49   blowing the giant horn I Carol sheep all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:52   the way to that thing to make the sheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:53   black it's a little cheaper irresistible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:58   the sheep are the best part of the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5398">TS</a>]

01:29:59   but like no no the best part is when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:02   fire your brother in a catapult that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:04   good that is awesome i liked writing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:07   glider because I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:07   that section like seven that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:10   dialing not know you can hide I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:12   and I didn't know maybe you can join [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:14   that crafted many times many times I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:17   not like the younger brother going whoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:19   he was like bad flashbacks and yeah now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5419">TS</a>]

01:30:23   you transmit is his whole voice could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:26   have gone completely out the window far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:28   as I'm concerned you talk a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:31   about about things you play too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:32   times that the glider i kinda liked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:36   wish I could have done a little longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5436">TS</a>]

01:30:38   because i really enjoyed that mechanic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:39   of the the shimmying of the two guys on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5439">TS</a>]

01:30:41   the glider to make it till let me tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5441">TS</a>]

01:30:43   you pick up far cry 3 or Assassin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:46   Creed unity and railways come on a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:49   of time in a glider that I won't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:51   yeah I refuse I know those games are too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:54   long too long for just too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:56   give me another so is this some gamers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5456">TS</a>]

01:30:58   is this a new genre of game the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:01   three-hour video game a two-hour video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:03   game because if it is i really like it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5463">TS</a>]

01:31:05   the time two hours good video game is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:07   yeah i think it is i mean i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:09   basically the idea is not every game has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:11   to be 60 hours 60 bucks and some games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:13   are shorting some games are long as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:15   know we can deliver games digitally and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:17   we can price the price them however we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:19   feel like it we have room for short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:20   stories and novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:21   yes a game games have been getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5481">TS</a>]

01:31:22   shorter for years now because it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:24   much more expensive to create content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:26   for them unless your rockstar can spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:27   200 million dollars on a game because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:29   you games used to be routinely 20 30 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5489">TS</a>]

01:31:31   hours easily and now it's like case with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:33   our budget we can make a 10-hour game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:35   when it first started happening people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:36   are like what a ripoff this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:38   sixty-dollar game and i finished in 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:39   hours but you know but it costs so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:41   money to do all this high res things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:43   with all the the 3d models with more you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5503">TS</a>]

01:31:45   know polygons in them and everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5505">TS</a>]

01:31:48   all the music that you have to do in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:49   voice-acting it just became too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5509">TS</a>]

01:31:50   expensive and i think this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:51   logical conclusion it's like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5511">TS</a>]

01:31:53   well now that people accept that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5513">TS</a>]

01:31:55   how about we condense down our best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5515">TS</a>]

01:31:56   ideas into as long as long as they take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:59   and our may be our best ideas only feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5519">TS</a>]

01:32:01   two hours and that's great because now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5521">TS</a>]

01:32:03   the budget for the assets that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:04   to make all the voice-acting everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5524">TS</a>]

01:32:05   isn't that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:06   and so here you go and I think people of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5526">TS</a>]

01:32:08   critics and players have proven they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:10   like this type of game so i hope you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:12   more of in the future because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5532">TS</a>]

01:32:13   preferable to you know is the only other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:15   option 200 million dollar GTA or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:17   really really crappy 10 our game I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:19   not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:20   brother had this yeah i agree i I and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5540">TS</a>]

01:32:22   somebody who like i said i have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:24   whole thing about I'm gonna buy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5544">TS</a>]

01:32:25   game and I'm gonna play it for I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5545">TS</a>]

01:32:27   play it for five or ten hours anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:29   that's that's the most remember what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:30   so I would be happy to pay fifteen or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5550">TS</a>]

01:32:33   twenty dollars for a three-hour game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:35   experience and then if I really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:37   like it then I'll go back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:39   achievements or things like that i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:40   i play journey through three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5560">TS</a>]

01:32:42   times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:42   my daughter was playing journey this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:43   morning my wife's play journey all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5563">TS</a>]

01:32:45   way through a couple of times i'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5565">TS</a>]

01:32:47   couple James away from getting the white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:49   robe which is the last thing I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:50   do in journey promote my daughter was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:52   playing it today and singing to do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5572">TS</a>]

01:32:54   know what a guy as they were going up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5574">TS</a>]

01:32:56   the mountain and it was great it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5576">TS</a>]

01:32:58   know do you see yourself playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5578">TS</a>]

01:32:59   brothers again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:00   uh no no no they're not going to play it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:04   that way back in and played it to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:06   all the little side things and now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:07   feel like i've experienced everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5587">TS</a>]

01:33:09   that game so i don't think i need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:11   that i might read about the side things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:13   and if the side things sound interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5593">TS</a>]

01:33:15   maybe i would go back but i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:16   unlikely i'd actually rather play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5596">TS</a>]

01:33:18   journey again but i mean i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:20   i'll go back and play gone home again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:22   think I got everything you know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5602">TS</a>]

01:33:24   that but you know yeah i won't i won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:26   play gone home again i met i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:27   probably have my son play through this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:29   when I think he's old enough to handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:30   and appreciate it but I won't play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5610">TS</a>]

01:33:32   through it again but interestingly i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:33   have played three co more than one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:35   and not because I'm getting like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:37   know I've done everything in that game a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:39   million times but just because it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:41   of like watching a movie you've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:42   over and over again and like you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5622">TS</a>]

01:33:44   home was just like a little bit better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46   maybe that would be the experience many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:47   people do have that experience of like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5627">TS</a>]

01:33:48   just wanted I know exactly what's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:50   happen this movie but i just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5630">TS</a>]

01:33:51   watch it again because such a ride i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5631">TS</a>]

01:33:52   play eco every couple of years over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:55   again just because i love the experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5635">TS</a>]

01:33:56   of playing the game even though I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5636">TS</a>]

01:33:57   everything that's going to happen i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5637">TS</a>]

01:33:58   almost never play a narrative game again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5638">TS</a>]

01:34:01   the second time I just it's in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5641">TS</a>]

01:34:03   it's so much so involving and so so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:06   work to go through it that you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5646">TS</a>]

01:34:08   just kind of find a kind of training and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5648">TS</a>]

01:34:10   the idea of like starting over again is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5650">TS</a>]

01:34:12   to me very very like oh god I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:14   think I can take that especially when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5654">TS</a>]

01:34:16   know where the plot goes even games were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5656">TS</a>]

01:34:18   like mass effect where you can change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5658">TS</a>]

01:34:19   the outcome I just effect mass effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:21   it's a little bit longer and play well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5661">TS</a>]

01:34:23   yeah I'm just saying I yeah a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5663">TS</a>]

01:34:25   those games i just have trouble going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:26   back to i mean the games that I play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5666">TS</a>]

01:34:28   over and over again more games with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:29   multiplayer stuff for you know it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:31   they're more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5671">TS</a>]

01:34:32   no sport games right perhaps but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:34   you know prince of persia it's like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:35   right I can try and like beat this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5675">TS</a>]

01:34:37   like it farther in this game than I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5677">TS</a>]

01:34:39   before what have you and i'm in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:41   replay the replay camp for sure because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5681">TS</a>]

01:34:43   i am in the midst of playing grim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5683">TS</a>]

01:34:45   fandango for like the fifth time right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5685">TS</a>]

01:34:46   now and just fantastic experience every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:49   single time that these two probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5689">TS</a>]

01:34:52   so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:53   you know I rarely have wanted to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5693">TS</a>]

01:34:55   and reread are you there god it's me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:57   margaret either so yeah i reckin fourth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5697">TS</a>]

01:35:01   grade nothing like 10 * well I do love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:03   that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5703">TS</a>]

01:35:03   if this had been more of in that vein I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5703">TS</a>]

01:35:05   would probably have played twice already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5705">TS</a>]

01:35:08   yeah i think the only games that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:09   replayed regularly the LucasArts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:11   adventure games like secret of monkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:12   island group and grim fandango and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5712">TS</a>]

01:35:14   things like that but yeah kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:16   chase and I have enough games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5716">TS</a>]

01:35:17   haven't finished or haven't even got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:18   start yet that you know multiplayer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:20   really the only thing that gets me going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5720">TS</a>]

01:35:21   back to it i still have to finish eco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5721">TS</a>]

01:35:23   yeah you can start that over again it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5723">TS</a>]

01:35:25   only 10 hours it's not like this we shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:27   shadow of the colossus to ego is the ego [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:30   is the old version of journey like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5730">TS</a>]

01:35:31   terms of wow it's so short but it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:33   now compared to the actual to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:35   journey game I'll 10 hours that's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:37   full game shadow I i continue to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5737">TS</a>]

01:35:39   you'll never make it through but i wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5739">TS</a>]

01:35:41   i wish you luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5741">TS</a>]

01:35:42   it is long thanks thanks John it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:44   it is not short and there is you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5744">TS</a>]

01:35:46   get frustrated and yeah which will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5746">TS</a>]

01:35:49   said but like it has a higher skill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5749">TS</a>]

01:35:50   barrier than equals which is why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5750">TS</a>]

01:35:52   totally recommend equal to almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5752">TS</a>]

01:35:53   anybody and then shadow it's like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:55   your gamer you should play but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5755">TS</a>]

01:35:57   not it's gonna burn you screw that huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5757">TS</a>]

01:36:01   you should let you should like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5761">TS</a>]

01:36:02   the first level or 10 hours a boss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:04   fights will wear on the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:06   yeah yeah that's yeah but will wear a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5766">TS</a>]

01:36:09   non-gamer but the first one is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5769">TS</a>]

01:36:10   experiencing and it's kind of a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:11   you can't hear myself and everyone at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5771">TS</a>]

01:36:13   those that sounds like wearing on meat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5773">TS</a>]

01:36:14   now I get sound too terrible to me at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5774">TS</a>]

01:36:16   first i was like i love those you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5776">TS</a>]

01:36:18   made the second game it's all boss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:19   fights I hate boss fights why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5779">TS</a>]

01:36:21   ever and then I'd like okay I get it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5781">TS</a>]

01:36:23   it enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5783">TS</a>]

01:36:24   yeah it is its yeah alright I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:27   recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5787">TS</a>]

01:36:28   hey before we go I want to ask everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:31   like we do with our book club we well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5791">TS</a>]

01:36:34   I ask you what are you reading but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:36   would be very off topic for an episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5796">TS</a>]

01:36:38   developed video games so how about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:40   are you playing Dan Morgan what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5800">TS</a>]

01:36:43   playing you know I'm a standstill this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5803">TS</a>]

01:36:46   Marco panelists Tony similar because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5806">TS</a>]

01:36:48   the beginning I just played or we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:50   almost done with which we are playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5810">TS</a>]

01:36:51   multiplayer is a game called monaco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:52   which is super super fun and you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5812">TS</a>]

01:36:54   pick it up things on steam as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5814">TS</a>]

01:36:56   experts like a multiplayer you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5816">TS</a>]

01:36:59   yeah I co-simulation you do like slots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5819">TS</a>]

01:37:02   and baccarat less of that more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:04   robbing things blind super fun game that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5824">TS</a>]

01:37:07   like sort of follows a bunch of high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5827">TS</a>]

01:37:09   strokes like you have different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5829">TS</a>]

01:37:09   characters like a locksmith and the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5829">TS</a>]

01:37:11   knocks people out and look out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5831">TS</a>]

01:37:13   they'll have special powers and the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5833">TS</a>]

01:37:14   down very stylized game but it's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5834">TS</a>]

01:37:17   of fun great multiplayer I mean one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:21   the better multiplayer experiences I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5841">TS</a>]

01:37:22   had a really really long time and yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5842">TS</a>]

01:37:25   i highly recommend it it's not too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5845">TS</a>]

01:37:27   not super stylized to like that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5847">TS</a>]

01:37:29   thing that yes even trying to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5849">TS</a>]

01:37:32   the total and that's that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5852">TS</a>]

01:37:35   to it again we gamers if you played tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5855">TS</a>]

01:37:37   of games with people look like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5857">TS</a>]

01:37:38   like wow this does not look like games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5858">TS</a>]

01:37:40   and once you figure it out it all has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5860">TS</a>]

01:37:42   language that kind of makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:44   you see the matrix is like all that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5864">TS</a>]

01:37:46   stop seeing the big blocks you starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5866">TS</a>]

01:37:47   seeing people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5867">TS</a>]

01:37:49   yeah that's cool i like it a lot Monica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5869">TS</a>]

01:37:52   ok now we go to game i'm also playing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5872">TS</a>]

01:37:56   yeah Donny Tony Tony what else are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5876">TS</a>]

01:37:59   playing or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5879">TS</a>]

01:38:00   um I've been playing Monica with gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5880">TS</a>]

01:38:02   go that's great i just finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5882">TS</a>]

01:38:05   Assassin's Creed 3 which came out like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:07   year ago but obviously I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:09   tearing through but it's an ok game i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5889">TS</a>]

01:38:11   trying to clear through my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5891">TS</a>]

01:38:13   embarrassingly large backlog so i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5893">TS</a>]

01:38:14   play the new Grand Theft Auto but i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5894">TS</a>]

01:38:16   two big backlog of my new games and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5896">TS</a>]

01:38:19   been playing a bunch of games on my iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:20   recently the they came out with a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:22   version of small world that is has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5902">TS</a>]

01:38:23   multiplayer instead of just passing play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5903">TS</a>]

01:38:25   and that's been playing that i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5905">TS</a>]

01:38:27   about seven or eight games a small world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5907">TS</a>]

01:38:28   going at any time I don't know Sony what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5908">TS</a>]

01:38:30   the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5910">TS</a>]

01:38:31   smallworlds you know if there is a board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5911">TS</a>]

01:38:33   game of that which I owned and play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5913">TS</a>]

01:38:34   previously and the absolutely the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:37   version of it is just great because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5917">TS</a>]

01:38:38   does the the score keeping for you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:40   it you know it makes the rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5920">TS</a>]

01:38:42   ok simpler by enforcing them in a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5922">TS</a>]

01:38:44   state so you could as opposed to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5924">TS</a>]

01:38:46   setting up and playing small world would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5926">TS</a>]

01:38:47   easily taken our this you can play a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5927">TS</a>]

01:38:49   game and you know 15 minutes on or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5929">TS</a>]

01:38:51   know you play it one move a day over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5931">TS</a>]

01:38:53   course of multiple days so I'm playing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5933">TS</a>]

01:38:55   lot of that enjoy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5935">TS</a>]

01:38:56   that means all right Steve what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5936">TS</a>]

01:38:59   playing can't believe it took you a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5939">TS</a>]

01:39:01   to get the assassins creed 3 tony you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5941">TS</a>]

01:39:04   know I played all the other ones and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5944">TS</a>]

01:39:06   started playing assassin's creed 3 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5946">TS</a>]

01:39:07   it did not grab me as much as the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5947">TS</a>]

01:39:10   ones there's some interesting stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5950">TS</a>]

01:39:12   there but it's a little bloated in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:14   of having all this stuff that you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5954">TS</a>]

01:39:16   like you know you can be you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5956">TS</a>]

01:39:19   famous assassin or you can spend a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:21   of time managing your like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:22   merchants there's a whole merchant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5962">TS</a>]

01:39:24   minigame in here and I'm like why am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:25   doing this but I need to do this to earn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5965">TS</a>]

01:39:27   money so i can unlock the next thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:28   ya didn't grab me but you do get to cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:31   out George Washington at the end so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:33   like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5973">TS</a>]

01:39:34   well I just finished Ultima 5 that only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:38   took me 25 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:39   yeah well I've never finished altima 4dr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5979">TS</a>]

01:39:43   going to start with we're back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:44   day but I went to the Avatar i decided i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5984">TS</a>]

01:39:48   have to finish all of them except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5988">TS</a>]

01:39:50   perhaps for eight and 9i might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5990">TS</a>]

01:39:53   necessarily have to deal with us if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:55   did not did not sound like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5995">TS</a>]

01:39:56   true to the ultimate mythos or gameplay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5996">TS</a>]

01:39:59   but at any rate finished altima five and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/5999">TS</a>]

01:40:03   right now since it's a the halloween [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:05   season i finally got around to starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:08   diablo 3 is whichever yeah it's Diablo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:11   slightly slightly dumped down from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6011">TS</a>]

01:40:14   previous feel like looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6014">TS</a>]

01:40:15   yeah whole lot of clicking hope you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6015">TS</a>]

01:40:17   enjoy carpal tunnel and it looks nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6017">TS</a>]

01:40:20   that isolated monster is nice looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6020">TS</a>]

01:40:22   game although not as nice as i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6022">TS</a>]

01:40:23   expecting given well I mean it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:25   Diablo that's it that's true that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:28   so i'm having some fun with that at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:31   same time I'm starting up another replay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6031">TS</a>]

01:40:34   of Silent Hill 3 which is probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6034">TS</a>]

01:40:38   scariest of of the Silent Hill games at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6038">TS</a>]

01:40:41   least the ones that I've played which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6041">TS</a>]

01:40:45   highly recommend for anybody who really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6045">TS</a>]

01:40:47   wants a good haunted town game not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6047">TS</a>]

01:40:50   a haunted house and yeah that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:53   one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6053">TS</a>]

01:40:54   probably fourth or fifth replay of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6054">TS</a>]

01:40:56   and it still scares the crap out of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6056">TS</a>]

01:40:58   every single time and as mentioned i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6058">TS</a>]

01:41:01   also trucking through grim fandango [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6061">TS</a>]

01:41:03   again because you got team every once in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6063">TS</a>]

01:41:06   awhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6066">TS</a>]

01:41:06   what is that a-what can you play that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6066">TS</a>]

01:41:08   right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6068">TS</a>]

01:41:09   that did they put that to modern systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6069">TS</a>]

01:41:10   now you gonna you got to do some dosbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6070">TS</a>]

01:41:13   foo i didn't even talk to have checked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6073">TS</a>]

01:41:16   good old games to see if they've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6076">TS</a>]

01:41:18   version of that but because a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6078">TS</a>]

01:41:20   the classic LucasArts adventures they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6080">TS</a>]

01:41:21   ported for some of them are even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6081">TS</a>]

01:41:22   available for iOS like Secret of Monkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6082">TS</a>]

01:41:24   Island but not not all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:27   grim fandango is a great one it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6087">TS</a>]

01:41:29   fantastic probably the best adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6089">TS</a>]

01:41:31   game i think all told you know story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6091">TS</a>]

01:41:35   puzzles and everything combined it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6095">TS</a>]

01:41:36   probably best that I've ever played and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6096">TS</a>]

01:41:38   I played a lot i like that i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6098">TS</a>]

01:41:40   like the little slightly wackier ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:42   that like salmon max but Griffin it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6102">TS</a>]

01:41:44   a great game there's a lot of wackiness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6104">TS</a>]

01:41:45   though in grim fandango probably more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:47   than I remember I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6107">TS</a>]

01:41:49   yeah just having the guy who played not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:52   el guapo but his his sidekick who asks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6112">TS</a>]

01:41:55   about the or who who says there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6115">TS</a>]

01:41:57   plethora of pinatas without actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6117">TS</a>]

01:41:59   knowing what a plethora is as the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6119">TS</a>]

01:42:01   characters voice is is a huge boon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6121">TS</a>]

01:42:04   he's he's hilarious for anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6124">TS</a>]

01:42:07   unfamiliar contango grim fandango is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:08   film noir meets Mexican Day of the Dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6128">TS</a>]

01:42:11   and you're basically a kind of a travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6131">TS</a>]

01:42:15   agent for the dead who get your affected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6135">TS</a>]

01:42:16   your rewrite a murder mystery you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6136">TS</a>]

01:42:19   except it's an interesting murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:21   mystery because everyone's dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:24   I fantastic game if any of you have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:26   played that i highly recommend you seek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:28   that out because it is literally other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:30   probably in my top three games ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:33   yeah that's that's right didn't sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6153">TS</a>]

01:42:35   very well because it came out in 1998 at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6155">TS</a>]

01:42:37   the same year that I starcraft and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6157">TS</a>]

01:42:39   half-life game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:39   ok so Tim Schafer though you can't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:41   wrong I'm Schaefer so if you're playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6161">TS</a>]

01:42:45   against even the video game draft yes we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6165">TS</a>]

01:42:48   do some crazy like that video games are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6168">TS</a>]

01:42:50   at early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:51   yeah you're sad and happy at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6171">TS</a>]

01:42:53   time John circular what are you playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6173">TS</a>]

01:42:56   so I'm going through the HD remake of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6176">TS</a>]

01:42:59   wind maker which is a game is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6179">TS</a>]

01:43:01   of the game that I had my son play and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6181">TS</a>]

01:43:03   he's played through it many many times i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6183">TS</a>]

01:43:04   played through many many times I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6184">TS</a>]

01:43:06   know if I would be interested in going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6186">TS</a>]

01:43:07   through it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6187">TS</a>]

01:43:08   but they changed enough things that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6188">TS</a>]

01:43:10   mentioned the first of all looks looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6190">TS</a>]

01:43:11   really nice and it looks different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6191">TS</a>]

01:43:13   the original game not just because HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6193">TS</a>]

01:43:16   but because they change the graphics a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6196">TS</a>]

01:43:18   little bit as well just a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6198">TS</a>]

01:43:19   just it comes off differently but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6199">TS</a>]

01:43:21   does make me do it is appreciate how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6201">TS</a>]

01:43:23   amazing the original games graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6203">TS</a>]

01:43:24   cards i think now it's slightly less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6204">TS</a>]

01:43:26   pure than it was but it's very pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6206">TS</a>]

01:43:28   looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6208">TS</a>]

01:43:29   oh but I have complaints about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6209">TS</a>]

01:43:31   remake mostly having to do what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6211">TS</a>]

01:43:33   really get the control know you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6213">TS</a>]

01:43:35   time look nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6215">TS</a>]

01:43:36   I so wish I could play this game with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6216">TS</a>]

01:43:38   the original controller because they be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6218">TS</a>]

01:43:40   the gamepad and the pro controller both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6220">TS</a>]

01:43:43   we have both of them we tried both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6223">TS</a>]

01:43:45   them either one of them comes close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6225">TS</a>]

01:43:47   the experience of playing the game with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6227">TS</a>]

01:43:48   the original controller and the menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6228">TS</a>]

01:43:50   systems all god how many times I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6230">TS</a>]

01:43:51   go to those menus like I guess it's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:53   to be using the touchpad all I can look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6233">TS</a>]

01:43:55   at his touch or whatever but that I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6235">TS</a>]

01:43:57   that slower than the muscle memory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6237">TS</a>]

01:43:59   like going into the screen and picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6239">TS</a>]

01:44:01   an item and coming back out quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6241">TS</a>]

01:44:02   continually frustrated but that's every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6242">TS</a>]

01:44:04   time I had to to visit the the inventory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6244">TS</a>]

01:44:07   stranger or deal with the control system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6247">TS</a>]

01:44:09   it's frustrating but the game looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6249">TS</a>]

01:44:10   beautiful and they changed the game just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6250">TS</a>]

01:44:12   enough to get rid of the super annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6252">TS</a>]

01:44:14   things like we have a new sale that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6254">TS</a>]

01:44:15   makes you go twice as fast and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6255">TS</a>]

01:44:16   makes that makes a lot of difference i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6256">TS</a>]

01:44:18   was going to say I always felt like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6258">TS</a>]

01:44:19   game was padded with having a sale over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6259">TS</a>]

01:44:22   here that's a light game I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6262">TS</a>]

01:44:24   sailing and I I always thought they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6264">TS</a>]

01:44:25   should have condensed into like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6265">TS</a>]

01:44:28   middle of this game is one big massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6268">TS</a>]

01:44:29   sea journey that you feel a sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6269">TS</a>]

01:44:31   accomplishment with after having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6271">TS</a>]

01:44:33   completed but they didn't do that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6273">TS</a>]

01:44:35   that it's a bunch of series of small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6275">TS</a>]

01:44:36   trips but I if you've never played the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6276">TS</a>]

01:44:38   game I almost say that you should like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6278">TS</a>]

01:44:40   get a gamecube or our game compatible we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6280">TS</a>]

01:44:43   and play the original instead of the HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6283">TS</a>]

01:44:45   remake which I usually don't say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6285">TS</a>]

01:44:46   HD remakes but this year it does feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6286">TS</a>]

01:44:49   like a different game and it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6289">TS</a>]

01:44:50   a game made for people who played the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6290">TS</a>]

01:44:52   first game was just fine i'm one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6292">TS</a>]

01:44:54   those people but that's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6294">TS</a>]

01:44:55   reservation i would say is if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6295">TS</a>]

01:44:57   never played the original game your i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6297">TS</a>]

01:44:59   would say play the original games you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6299">TS</a>]

01:45:01   have played the original game it's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6301">TS</a>]

01:45:02   getting this to revisit it with a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6302">TS</a>]

01:45:04   twist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6304">TS</a>]

01:45:05   where does that rank is as far as your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6305">TS</a>]

01:45:06   favorite little games don't you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6306">TS</a>]

01:45:08   ah it if fluctuates because it and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6308">TS</a>]

01:45:12   wrapped up a little bit of my sons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6312">TS</a>]

01:45:13   like the cars movie it's not my number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6313">TS</a>]

01:45:16   one for sure at it's like fighting two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6316">TS</a>]

01:45:19   and three maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6319">TS</a>]

01:45:21   twilight princess keeps going up as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6321">TS</a>]

01:45:23   get older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6323">TS</a>]

01:45:25   by the way that in the reference to HD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:27   remakes stay the hell away from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6327">TS</a>]

01:45:29   silent hill 2 and 3 HD ram not that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6329">TS</a>]

01:45:32   guys are going to rush out and buy him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6332">TS</a>]

01:45:33   anything but wow did they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6333">TS</a>]

01:45:36   screwed-up job on that poor yeah those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6336">TS</a>]

01:45:38   are really like HD HD remix out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6338">TS</a>]

01:45:40   just like we got the game to run on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6340">TS</a>]

01:45:42   newer system basically and it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6342">TS</a>]

01:45:44   that they had I think some some early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6344">TS</a>]

01:45:46   code before had fully been debugged but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6346">TS</a>]

01:45:48   i think the biggest problem is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6348">TS</a>]

01:45:49   that team silent when they made those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6349">TS</a>]

01:45:51   games they really did some weird things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6351">TS</a>]

01:45:54   with the hardware and I think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6354">TS</a>]

01:45:56   one of the crucial components of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6356">TS</a>]

01:45:57   Silent Hill games is the fog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6357">TS</a>]

01:46:03   man walked right into that one day they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6363">TS</a>]

01:46:10   failed utterly to render the fog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6370">TS</a>]

01:46:12   properly in these remakes and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6372">TS</a>]

01:46:14   it's because they were doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:15   just really bizarre with the hardware to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6375">TS</a>]

01:46:17   make it work properly and it was trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6377">TS</a>]

01:46:20   to make it work with the the playstation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6380">TS</a>]

01:46:22   3 graphics hardware just was beyond the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:24   Ken of these Porter's I think they had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6384">TS</a>]

01:46:25   lot of budget to work with anyway but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6385">TS</a>]

01:46:29   yeah I mean that the game is pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6389">TS</a>]

01:46:31   completely ruined too far more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6391">TS</a>]

01:46:33   three but yeah if you feel that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6393">TS</a>]

01:46:36   to get into the Silent Hill universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6396">TS</a>]

01:46:38   stay the hell away from the thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6398">TS</a>]

01:46:40   high-def remakes because it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6400">TS</a>]

01:46:42   they actually have destroyed the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6402">TS</a>]

01:46:44   it amazes me that you love these old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6404">TS</a>]

01:46:45   games so much it seems that such a low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6405">TS</a>]

01:46:47   tolerance for like the gameplay tropes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6407">TS</a>]

01:46:48   my god gone home with Judy Blume book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6408">TS</a>]

01:46:51   the skate like you're such a grumpy old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6411">TS</a>]

01:46:52   man with the gameplay trailer so you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6412">TS</a>]

01:46:54   back to play these games and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6414">TS</a>]

01:46:55   so many creepy things number of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6415">TS</a>]

01:46:57   control scheme to like the the gameplay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6417">TS</a>]

01:46:59   mechanics limited limited by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6419">TS</a>]

01:47:00   technology of the time but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6420">TS</a>]

01:47:02   totally tolerant of those but any new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6422">TS</a>]

01:47:03   game that comes out not taking that crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6423">TS</a>]

01:47:05   from this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6425">TS</a>]

01:47:06   well I can appreciate them for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6426">TS</a>]

01:47:08   having played them when they were out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6428">TS</a>]

01:47:10   you know I can forgive a game that's 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6430">TS</a>]

01:47:12   years old for playing like 15 year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6432">TS</a>]

01:47:14   John you would never be critical of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6434">TS</a>]

01:47:16   movie where they went back and redid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:18   certain scenes and smooth you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6438">TS</a>]

01:47:20   improved graphics and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6440">TS</a>]

01:47:22   right now that's as i wrote I wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6442">TS</a>]

01:47:25   blog post about this why why do I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6445">TS</a>]

01:47:26   the prequels and make this ball is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6446">TS</a>]

01:47:28   different why don't the special editions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6448">TS</a>]

01:47:30   and I'm don't hate remakes of video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6450">TS</a>]

01:47:32   games and i wrote a whole blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6452">TS</a>]

01:47:33   about it now if you're just joining us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6453">TS</a>]

01:47:35   this is our for of hypercritical he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6455">TS</a>]

01:47:38   not so if you were to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6458">TS</a>]

01:47:39   hypercritical taco and read my post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6459">TS</a>]

01:47:41   about the winwaker remake you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:43   learn all about it which we remake is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6463">TS</a>]

01:47:46   that we can remember it for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6466">TS</a>]

01:47:47   wholesale that you got it i read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6467">TS</a>]

01:47:49   months but when the game was announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6469">TS</a>]

01:47:50   before the game actually came out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6470">TS</a>]

01:47:52   explains in detail why I think game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6472">TS</a>]

01:47:55   remakes are more acceptable to me then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6475">TS</a>]

01:47:57   going back and changing a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6477">TS</a>]

01:47:59   alright the short answer is i can still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6479">TS</a>]

01:48:01   play the original winwaker boom George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6481">TS</a>]

01:48:03   Lucas Jason what are you playing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6483">TS</a>]

01:48:05   now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6485">TS</a>]

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01:48:08   battleship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6488">TS</a>]

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01:48:13   words with friends stratego ya little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6493">TS</a>]

01:48:17   minesweeper little solitaire some mario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6497">TS</a>]

01:48:21   kart wii long little mancala go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6501">TS</a>]

01:48:24   thanks war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6504">TS</a>]

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01:48:28   playing journey that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6508">TS</a>]

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01:48:32   playing playing small world out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6512">TS</a>]

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01:48:35   happy to respond to Lauren on twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6515">TS</a>]

01:48:37   about the yeah when you get the white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6517">TS</a>]

01:48:38   robe Jason you have to at least go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6518">TS</a>]

01:48:40   one playthrough to help to help somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6520">TS</a>]

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01:48:48   person entirely failed to appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:49   that you have spent that long in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6529">TS</a>]

01:48:51   game and that's okay you can take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:53   word get the white robe in like to game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6533">TS</a>]

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01:48:57   you just have to go find a little lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6537">TS</a>]

01:48:58   guys yeah yeah they glow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6538">TS</a>]

01:49:01   yeah anyway I played these two games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6541">TS</a>]

01:49:03   that we talked about and then and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6543">TS</a>]

01:49:05   and now we're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6545">TS</a>]

01:49:06   so I'd like to thank my panel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6546">TS</a>]

01:49:08   joining me on this adventure where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6548">TS</a>]

01:49:09   play video games which i almost never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6549">TS</a>]

01:49:11   play and they play video games which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6551">TS</a>]

01:49:13   they almost always seem to be playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6553">TS</a>]

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01:49:21   woods I represent the audience that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6561">TS</a>]

01:49:23   interested in video games but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6563">TS</a>]

01:49:25   doesn't know what to do or where to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6565">TS</a>]

01:49:27   start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6567">TS</a>]

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01:49:30   is make it do worse than to start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6570">TS</a>]

01:49:32   the game like brothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6572">TS</a>]

01:49:33   yeah yeah absolutely alright so I'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6573">TS</a>]

01:49:37   to thank my panelists for playing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6577">TS</a>]

01:49:38   games and for joining us tonight on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6578">TS</a>]

01:49:41   uncomfortable to steve lets a pleasure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6581">TS</a>]

01:49:43   as always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6583">TS</a>]

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01:49:46   actually I know back i know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6586">TS</a>]

01:49:48   welcome Steve Johnson acusa thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6588">TS</a>]

01:49:52   for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6592">TS</a>]

01:49:53   I'm thinking about rerecording this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:54   podcast if i get a good ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6594">TS</a>]

01:49:56   yeah that's the one where Steve dies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6596">TS</a>]

01:49:59   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6599">TS</a>]

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01:50:06   i'm still not clear how i get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6606">TS</a>]

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01:50:14   to play this podcast again and a more'n [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6614">TS</a>]

01:50:17   thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6617">TS</a>]

01:50:18   never again I mean good to be here a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6618">TS</a>]

01:50:21   pleasure yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6621">TS</a>]

01:50:22   what was that the ghost of dan more'n [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6622">TS</a>]

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01:50:32   from brothers so I just crying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6632">TS</a>]

01:50:34   intensively agreeing with Danny's dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6634">TS</a>]

01:50:39   and i could hear it boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6639">TS</a>]

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01:50:47   making me cry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6647">TS</a>]

01:50:49   ok and for all of us here at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6649">TS</a>]

01:50:50   uncomfortable thanks for joining us in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6650">TS</a>]

01:50:52   our little conversation about video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6652">TS</a>]

01:50:53   games we'll see you next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6653">TS</a>]

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01:51:11   you stuck around this far in a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6671">TS</a>]

01:51:13   episodes we're gonna be discussing old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6673">TS</a>]

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01:51:17   edition number two with Philip Michaels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6677">TS</a>]

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01:51:23   didn't get nominated for an oscar for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6683">TS</a>]

01:51:26   best picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6686">TS</a>]

01:51:27   singing in the rain classic a movie that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6687">TS</a>]

01:51:29   did get nominated but didn't win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6689">TS</a>]

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01:51:35   watch those movies in a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6695">TS</a>]

01:51:37   episodes you can hear us talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6697">TS</a>]

01:51:39   from so stay tuned for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6699">TS</a>]

01:51:41   thanks for listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaggVxY/6701">TS</a>]