00:00:00 ◼ ► the incomparable number 344 March 2017 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/0">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► incomparable i'm your host Jason stell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/12">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► and we're here it's an edition of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► book club and Scott McNulty is not here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/15">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► ah what you know what happens he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/19">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► on every book club he doesn't read all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/22">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► the books he only read some of the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/24">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► he doesn't remember old and he certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/25">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► doesn't remember I didn't remember I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/27">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► remember anything about these books but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/32">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► i did a reread and so we're here to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/34">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► about a book from two thousand one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/37">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► another one from two thousand five by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/40">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► both by neil gaiman first american gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/43">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► and then we'll also talk a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/47">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► about a Nancy boys which is not really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► sequel but has a lot of connections to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► American Gods doing this now even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/54">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► I read this book whatever 15 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/57">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► is because there will be a TV series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/59">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► Network in the US and Netflix everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► else in the world in the next month or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/66">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► month or so so joining me to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/70">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► these two books by famous comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/72">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► writer Neil Gaiman how will he succeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/75">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► as a novelist hmm are the he succeeds I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/77">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► forget that he's a comic book writer now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/81">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► that's how well he succeeded are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/82">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► following fine people David J laura's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► here hello hello there Monty Ashley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/86">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► watch my coin trick whoo now if i stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► believing in you do you go away I at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/93">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► end of the podcast that's if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► believe in me anymore I go away it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/99">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► true okay pressure on you never forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/100">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► never forget Glenn Fleischmann's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/104">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► here hello hey you always knew I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/106">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► more an idea than a person Jason you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/108">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► knew it yeah you're one of the new God's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► the god of Glenn and it's just about as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/112">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► long as we believe that they're unlikely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► collect connections between people Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► will remain in existence I was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► one of these books between the two days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/121">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► I play jeopardy effect so there you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/123">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► Glenny the the thing that's amazing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/125">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► relatives god that's true it's strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/129">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► and allene Simpsons also here hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► hello um so who's starting the war Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/134">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► midscale enjoys man it's yeah we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► even need to ask really we knew it I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/141">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► it's true it's low-key Fleishman so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/144">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► you know I've been watching the run up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/149">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► to the release of the American God TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► series and I've been like okay that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/155">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► cool i remember i read that book i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► remember i liked that book then I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► to the wikipedia page for american gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► and i look at the plot summary and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/162">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► thought I don't I well no that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► true I literally remember nothing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/166">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► a Nancy boys at all and I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/168">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► really liking it American guides I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/171">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► remember some of it but then as I reread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/174">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► it because I did reread it I was amazed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► at how much I just didn't remember I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/180">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► guess its I feel like I'm becoming Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► melty now I I just so little i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/187">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► remember shadow and i remember his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/190">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► relationship with his with his wife and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► I remember going to the small town and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/194">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► remember little bits of it but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/198">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► really great to revisit actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/201">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► enjoyed it a lot but it I had no I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/202">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► everybody here read it awhile ago I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/206">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► the original release when it came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► and then I read it again when the super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/211">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► expensive Hill House slip cased authors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► preferred edition came out that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/218">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► going to be the only way I could read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/221">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► the other ten thousand words and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/222">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► would explain things that Neil Gaiman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/224">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► had purposely left out of the book and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/226">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► they did not explain that and be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/229">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► content came out in paperback formerly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/233">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► Irina Nancy boys first because I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/235">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► him interviewed on NPR about it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/236">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► was kind of stressed you know this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/239">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► exactly a sequel so I read that out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► interest and then I think a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► later picked up in rent american gods as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/246">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► I say finishing it between two episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► of Jeopardy taping and it was and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/251">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► know seem like a very different book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► then I Jason had the same experience I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/256">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► remembered maybe a little differently i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► remembered that plot much more closely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/259">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► but the detail I forgot entire like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/262">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► subplots and side trips because it's um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/265">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► yeah other gods in particular is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/268">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► definition of a picaresque novel they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► from place to place to place to place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/274">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► and you know it does have an overarching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/277">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► theme it comes back but it is you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► forget some of the picaresque locations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/281">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► that are stopped by oh yes now I I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/282">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► it when it came out and got through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/286">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► whole thing and thought wow that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► have been shorter and then I yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/291">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► I really like it don't get me wrong I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► love him as a novelist but then when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/298">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► first announced oh I'm writing a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/302">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► that is loosely connected to american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/303">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► gods and I thought well I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► read that because I already read a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/308">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► of american gods and but then he kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► calling it his thorne-smith novel and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► love thorne-smith and I thought okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/316">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► something in that spirit it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/321">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► shorter because you can't sustain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► for 500 pages and and it'll be light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/325">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► it'll be fun and so I gotta Nancy boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► as soon as it came out and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/330">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► American Gods is probably the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► richer deeper more respectable book if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/337">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► that makes sense that's that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► that you would put up there on your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► shelf of great novels that you might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/345">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► ever read again but I enjoy to Nancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/349">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► boys a lot more Eileen what about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► picture it's San Francisco 2009 em was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/354">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► the first time I actually read american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► gods and i can remember it because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► was actually um I'm a person who suffers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► from chronic illness and I was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► through kind of a down cycle and working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/367">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► American Gods was literally the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/371">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► something like three or four years so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► have a very clear picture of reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► in the w hotel looking over the Bay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► Bridge like I remember reading American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/381">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► Gods very clearly because I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► been a voracious reader and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► couldn't for so long so for that reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/388">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► I'm really biased toward american gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► because it was reconnecting me with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► novels and reading and something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/395">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► that I really really loved and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/396">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► enjoyed the book and it was the 10th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► anniversary edition know so this must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► have been 2011 actually not she does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/403">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► picture differently slightly differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/406">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► the fog is a different text hang on hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► the wall is slightly off a place in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► heart forever I still love it I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/412">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► love it um I was reading and Nancy boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► for this and I have the addition from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► barnes & noble that's like I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/420">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► original edit of american gods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► Anansie boys and i picked it up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► started reading it in preparation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► this because I was like oh I never got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/429">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► around to reading that and I was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/430">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► and I was like this is a lot like never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► familiar like there are things we not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► term scenes and that kind of thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/438">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► I'm like this is this is just never wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► and then i got like I don't know a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► half way through or so and i realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► that i had read this book and because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/446">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► a specific segment home McNulty neatly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► in the penalty I don't have any memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/452">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► ever of reading this book at all I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/456">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► no idea when what happened and I enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/460">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► it but I have no idea when I read it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/463">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► the first time I mean like he's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/466">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► right when he called it a thorne-smith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/469">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► inconsequential first that as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► you're done it's gone and you can enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/474">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► remember that that was a really wacky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► funny book about these two mismatch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► brothers who have the heirs to be Anansi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/484">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► the spider fortune their brother was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/487">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► quite identical brother I don't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► agree that it's all that fun no I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/492">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► like anyone in a nancy boy well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► take your word for that because all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► remember is that it was a zany zany book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► but I I didn't reread it and all I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► got is a Wikipedia summary to go on then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/505">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► the main character is fat charlie he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/507">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► a mope and a half for a blue two-thirds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/509">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► of the book so I don't like him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► everyone else in the book is a huge jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► to fat charlie all over the time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► character is supposed to hate and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/519">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► characters were supposed to like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/520">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► hundred percent of their screen time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/524">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► remember finding it amusing and not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/527">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► I expected after having read american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/530">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► gods when you hear that he's based he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► taking a really fun side character for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► one book and he's in the title of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► next book i personally expected more uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/538">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► barely in it yet yeah that's that's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► is true you know one of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/545">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► things so when I was in like second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► grade we listen we like learned about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► full characters from around the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► and I remember loving and not see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/552">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► spider so I've enjoyed Anansi the spider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/555">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► as a concept as a folk tale for most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/559">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► my life and so when I read American Gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► I was like I got it look I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/565">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► that it right it was so it was so great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/568">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► and I've been coming back to what David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► said about be it being so long one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► the things I really liked about american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► gods and that in reading it again it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► long I actually thinking about the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► show I was thinking well this is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/580">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► source material for the TV show because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/583">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► American Gods feels like a book where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► Neil Gaiman who is English and moved to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/588">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► the Midwest he moved to he lived in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► Minnesota for many years when he wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► this book he lived in Minnesota and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/595">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► was traveling around the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/596">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► and I feel like this is the book where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/598">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► Neil Gaiman was like all right I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/601">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► observations I've made about America as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► a person who is English and has come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► America and live there and so it is huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► and it is digressive and it has details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/612">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► that are kind of bizarrely specific and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► and if you were a he was a nobody writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/619">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► and you were a book editor and you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► like I'm really concerned about how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/626">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► this book is you could cut 200 pages out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► of it pretty from the original pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► easily and no one would notice but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/632">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► said I thinking about it my context of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/635">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► the TV series one make great material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/637">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► background material for building a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► for a TV series so it's actually kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/643">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► nice that they've got all that material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/646">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► because that he threw in there and uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/647">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► and too he's such a good writer and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/650">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► forget you know I know about it in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► concept and then I read his prose again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► and I just think oh my god this guy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► so good that I'm okay with how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/660">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► digressive it is and how many bizarre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/665">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► tangents he takes because it's also good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/666">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► that I'm like all right sure let's do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► that for a while but back tell me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/672">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► sure he's got a knack of building a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/676">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► character or a world in like a paragraph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/677">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► or two like we meet Anubis and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/680">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► jackal in the book it's just I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► think in like three paragraphs do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► know where they are you kind of know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/689">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► relationship to one another and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► settled in Cairo Illinois right here oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► yeah which is that we touch yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/694">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► it's perfect the symbol is the thing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► as mr. Wednesday says yeah oh so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► should say I mean if you haven't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► this book why are you listening to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/706">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► but if you have read this book that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/707">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► the premise of it is I mean yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/708">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► there's some twists and turns I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/711">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► like it's much more about the journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/712">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► than it is the destination the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/714">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► the climax happens and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► another like hundred pages after that oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/717">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► they don't get to the war they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► promising that's a problem well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► true right so I think the premise of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/722">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► is this premise is that people's belief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/725">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► in God's or fairy tales or folk tales or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/729">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► whatever creates representations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/732">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► those things in the real world and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/735">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► something i really liked a lot the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► that North America is a land that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/741">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► resistance to resistant to giving them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► the level of powers that they might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/746">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► had in the old world but they they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► still around so if you're an immigrant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/751">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► and everybody who lives in in America is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/753">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► an immigrant and we even have a segment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/756">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► where the initial people who came across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► the land bridge bring their gods with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/761">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► them to everybody brings their gods with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/763">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► them and then those gods kind of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/766">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► kicking around in America until until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► they are not believed in anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► that is that is the premise of this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► our character shadow who we meet early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► on he's the protagonist of this book he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► ends up going to work for a man named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/784">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► mr. Wednesday who you may discover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/785">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► immediately or it may take you 50 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► to figure it out is Odin from Norse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► mythology by the way that's Neil game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► its most recent book is a just a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► book of stories from Norse mythology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/798">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► we meet many other characters including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/799">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► Anansi the spider along the way as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► as modern gods for the cons that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► is now people worship other things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/806">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► and meet mass media and that's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► they're in opposition to mr. wednesday i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/812">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► get the way they are described clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/816">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► takes the position that television is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► bad and technology is bad the new things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/821">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► are bad and the old things are good is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► that the author or is that just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/828">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► viewpoint of mr. Wednesday who's placed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/830">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► himself in opposition to them I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► it is the off the ladder it's also 2001 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/836">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► thousand so it's media at me the way now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/840">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► Scott we did you gave a skeptical well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► there I think it's all from Wednesday's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/845">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► perspective right he uh we're past the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/848">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► spoilery part right picture I mean again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► I will just make it clear if you care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► about what happens in this book don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/856">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► recruits shadow to work for him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► shadow is kind of on the side of the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/863">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► gods um just because that's what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/867">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► been exposed to and so I do think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/870">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► it's from that perspective and not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► much the author's perspective I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/875">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► maybe it's both but I'd never read it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► a like Neil Gaiman preaching at people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/880">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► freeways I read it as The Clash of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/885">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► old and the new and how does that get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/888">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► another well we see lots of old gods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/892">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► they're mostly I'm gonna say quaint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► which I'm gonna come back to later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► they're charming okay they're jackal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/899">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► wednesday or mad sweeney they're fun but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/904">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► then we see the new gods and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/907">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► described as fat as smelly and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/910">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► protagonists like just the way the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/917">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► gods are described compared to the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/920">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► the new gods are described i think game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/921">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► in very much takes a position here yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/924">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► realize that do gods are dupes also and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► that there is kind of this you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/930">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► I mean that's we don't really get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/933">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► war because I mean jumping ahead we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► it turns out there is the no battle you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► know one group the intangibles have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/939">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► know they it's kind of like gaming gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/942">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► us the truth early on the intangibles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/944">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► say well we just think the market will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/946">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► work out this eventually we already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► a war which is kind of what the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► says ultimately is that the war is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/951">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► concocted thing and these new gods will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/953">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► come and go themselves they have no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/956">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► avenged yeah but just because one group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► of God's isn't winning the war doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► described as being much worse than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► other group yeah I i agree i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► a pretty harsh depiction i mean its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/970">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► course like media offering to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/971">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► Lucille Ball's balls uh you know naked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/973">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► chest is I think one of the most like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/976">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► that terrifying it's an ugly thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/980">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► the book intentionally and it's and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/983">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► brought back up later it's such an ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► idea right and so that's and then later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/986">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► you know media is packaged as somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► who looked really slick and whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/991">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► is like shadow says you know I I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/992">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► it better when you were just upfront [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/995">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► about you know being as coarse as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► really are that's not a positive image I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/998">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► understand what you're saying but um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► didn't I didn't get that at any event I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► think I think we will find out more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► about how named Neil Gaiman feels about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► these new gods because the apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► his maybe next novel is a sequel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► american gods and really the rumor is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► that it's about the new gods and I'm son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► lies about why he would do that I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► maybe theres some timing involved there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► I just feel be good now it's all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► how great television is everybody exit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► laughing all the time about rats retcons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► the entire book oh my god also just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► as shadow is learning how to do magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► tricks you know this story telling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► this is a part of what this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► about is about you know stories and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► storytelling can be a magic trick we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► watching as it turns out a con being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► perpetrated by Odin and Loki we are also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► watching a con being perpetrated by Neil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► Gaiman where he needs to get us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► really believe that a war between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► gods is coming between old and new and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► so he's going to ramp up like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► new gods because he doesn't want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► pay too much attention to what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► whole thing we rode and talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► various cons that her famous that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► on for many pages good many many pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► many pages and is paid off later and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► I feel like he's you know he wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► he's doing a lot of misdirection to he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► doing a lot of look over there when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► when the coins over here himself in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► order to sell you into this this premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► that turns out to and not at all be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► so I think that that is a part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► where he wants you to feel like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► yeah I'm for shadow and those new gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► are bad and but it's actually just part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► of the magic trick this edition of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► incomparable is sponsored in part by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► John Birmingham's book a girl in time on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► the eve of a huge breakout success a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► poor but brilliant young game developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► is pulled out of her world and time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► itself by a cowboy desperately searching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► for the daughter he lost 200 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► that is the story of John Birmingham's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► girl in time which sm sterling described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► as a smashing time travel cross cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► adventure deranged and brilliant I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► to say I read it too I really liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► and John Birmingham can't pay me to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► that I liked his book only to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► it but I really enjoyed it it was a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► of fun it is a rollicking time-traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► adventure star is Katie McCall she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► ready to be rich and famous the money is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► going to come into her bank from her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► appt sale she's going to be this huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► successful star and then comes Marshall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► John Titanic Smith who rescues her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► then they're both lost in time Time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► magazine wrote about weapons of choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► John Birmingham's first time travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► novel which we covered in episode 163 of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► the incomparable that it was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► transporter beam with a stephen ambrose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► history and they came out all fused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► together a girl in time is kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► that like your favorite episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► doctor who got mashed up with a cowboy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► mythology of Deadwood and justified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► while joss whedon watch to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► that Katie McCall smashed all the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► performance indicators for a modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► female hero also and I am not kidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► about this pineapple and pepperoni pizza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► appears in this book hmm but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► understandably frightened a pineapple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► brownie pizza and wonder what it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► do to a book even one as awesome as this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► for the next week he has dropped the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► price of the e-book to two dollars just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► for incomparable listeners two dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► right now get it from your preferred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► online bookstore but get it quick before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► that yummy pizza goes cold a girl in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► time by John Birmingham the notion that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► got that God's don't live in America is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► you know it's the plural gods or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► gods of things gods of concepts and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► have one you know overarching unitary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► God or try Mary God that swept through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► parts of the world and America it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► taken strong root but of course Jesus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► the Holy Ghost God the Father don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► appear in this and in I addition I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► there's he's like hey at the end he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► like hey you know well I wrote this bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► about Jesus I thought how could you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► this book and none of Jesus appear but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► didn't want it to be a battle between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► other one governor so here's the part I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► cut out and I read it I'm like yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1257">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► there's a reason you cut this out and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► like what Gaiman said about that which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► is that in the scenario of his book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► because people ask where's god where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► Jesus he says he says they're doing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► well in North America that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► need they're not gonna deal with any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► happening down on this level right guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► totally we're not talking to Odin Jesus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► will not take Odin's calls okay they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► don't need to go to the corn palace for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► a meetup they're fine yeah exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► and I think that is so deftly of damen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► to be like yes I'm just not gonna even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► get into it right let's he doesn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► this to be about um he wants it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► about discarded God's garlic gods that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► were brought to the New World and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► discarded that's what he wants it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► about ultimately and then he places them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► against sort of the gods that are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► cautionary tale of oh you're turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► your television to your God and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► the opposition but that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► story he wants to tell here is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► about myth and about maybe modern myths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► so it's all you know that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► that's his goal kid can I ask to I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► like there's a curious of other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► thoughts about this is Miss is a big me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► and rebook with a you know kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► wrapper around it and shadow is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► element that plays through it that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► of takes us through the journey and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► story and he's always on stage even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► a lot of actions happening off stage but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► the thing with hensel Mon I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► that from my reading and I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► remember how it fit into the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► even to the point that Wednesday stashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► a shadow in this place in lakeside this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► bizarrely flourishing community in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► middle of a depressed area and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► is happy it just kind of has it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► we're all you know everything is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► but everything really does seem fine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► then all these coincidences pile up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► character he's presented very well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► town is painted very well and then at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► the end the fact that Gaiman comes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► and says okay the war didn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► everything's tied up but wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► there's that guy in Lake ciders than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► mystery of the missing girl right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► then in the history of the book that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► happens to pick up that's the minutes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► foot down gettin full from uh it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► critical part of the story but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► like I don't I feel like gaming is tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► that together in a way that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► storytelling it's good storytelling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► like it's almost like Henzel man is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► nugget like he's the he's a good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► for this town it's you know the is it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► rotten thing at the corner and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► think about the ones who the ones who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► basically that story right Ursula K Le [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► Guin story it's so powerful is uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► know you can have everything you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► this time to everything will be create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► great we're just gonna kill one child a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► really nice one though the kids are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► going to be great we kill one a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► except that one year will thrive where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► we got a note of one yeah but but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► that notion he's like the people really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► know that's where their bargaining is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► kind of like well I think they sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► do and there's so there's a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► rotten or is it a good deal but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► moral problem that is off to the side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► all the pic rest stop it happens in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► place we come back to it I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1438">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► people feel about that in terms of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► structure of the book the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► remember most of this book before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► reread it was all of the stuff in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► town and exact that's absolutely that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► what I remember it's like it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► really great novella inside this novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► yeah when I think of american gods i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► think of first the hint suleman story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► grotesque when you learned his true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► origins and the descriptions of house on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► the rock everything else pops out of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► yeah same yeah I think it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► beautiful little beautiful relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► illustration of kind of Shadows a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► realization of what has been happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► this whole time like it was just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► kind of like he was like yeah this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► really nice town and OH that hun suleman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► guys kind of interesting with his car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► and his stories he's a great storyteller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► and then all of a sudden that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► wait I see what's happening and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► that that's such a great illustration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► and such a great tie-in from you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► earlier in the novel that he's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► yeah I figured this out you suck there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► some great threats to I mean it feels a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► little bit like a again like it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► its own thing just just that story cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► he gets the book and he know it's oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► look there's a guy who looks just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► him suleman in the past right and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► won't he like that at one point shadow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► takes the book with him because if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► runs into him suleman he's gonna show it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► to him and I'm thinking uh oh man this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► is better though everyone you've met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► since you left jail is a god yeah put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► together right bit but if gentleman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► finds out that it's gonna be like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► like the the sheriff's dad who figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► it out he says at the end and had to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► taken care of and it doesn't come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► pass he doesn't show the book to Hansel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► minutes on it it's not a thing but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► Gaiman does this call back to where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► had a little vignette about the about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► the character who turns into hanselman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► at the very early on in the book that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► this kind of horrific vignette and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► that's the callback of like that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► you were seeing there is the creation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► this of this this worshiped figure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► was a child who was taken away from his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► parents and all that kind of a metaphor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► for America that as a child who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► raised in darkness and killed brutally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► to serve as the sacrificial there are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► many minutes I mean they're stacked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► like the metaphors are stacked up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► storytelling of Hin Suleman is inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► the storytelling of Gaiman but it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► about the storytelling of myths that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► create the gods ah it's metaphors all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► the way down you could pull out Hinch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► lemon entirely and just have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► little town they have this quaint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► tradition about sinking and conquer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► clunker every year and now here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► twist and it would I think would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► lot like the lottery oh yeah one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► favorite things about this book by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► way is that shadow puts down money on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► the time that the clunker goes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► water and that's when he sinks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► clunker when he finds the dead girl in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► the I think the work to check that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► missed that detail yeah of course you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► did oh yeah it's the time it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► like which I would say is not is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► following by the rules if you go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► onto the ice and make it sink at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► time you don't get your money from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► lottery I'm sorry its ties into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► there's a Dirk Gently thing and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► actually a common thread and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► you know science fiction fantasy too is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► that in the Dirk Gently books he in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► tea time when he people ask him things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► and he gives them he's pretending to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► a medium at one point he gives Curt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► responses and every single thing he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► is true and it comes true by the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► the book of you have to kind of go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► and check and I think what was the we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► did an accomplished so that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► where it turned out if you checked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► everything that was stated and predicted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► was true as well forgot what it was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► but in this too is like shadow doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► know he doesn't know he's a god until we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► get well into it although you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► sort of becomes more obvious but always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► a half-god at least let me god the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► things he says our arch are there not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► prophetic he doesn't necessarily make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► them happen on that case I guess he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► but there's like a there's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► clockwork well all the coincidences are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► not coincidences is the story of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► book like everything that we think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► like oh isn't that lucky it's like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► that wasn't lucky that was part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► the part of the story oh yeah cuz game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► had a gaming how to come back and tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► us that hint Suleman is the one is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► reason they're all these coincidences in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► this little town right that he wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► bad store I'm not a bad writer this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► wasn't hacked waiting yeah loci being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► his cellmate is another good example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► like you know it's a setup it's a setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► that's the only at least he puts in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► right game and being a good writer he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► like alright let me show you how I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► this trick well yeah I first you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► it works the other way that like oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► clever I'm a clever reader I recognized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► that the guy's name was low key liye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► Smith therefore I figured out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► Wednesday must have learned all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► shadow from his cell mate oh-ho-ho and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► actually wednesday knew before that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► that's good yeah it's it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► the way i like to explain Penn & Teller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► is that they they do show you how tricks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► are done but they don't actually show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► you how they do their tricks right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► then you get surprised again it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► they're they're showing you they do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► trick they show you how to do the trick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► and they still pull something while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► you're showing while you're watching how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► they did it and then Gaiman does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► very nicely in the double in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► direction let's talk my shadow cuz he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► our main character he's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► guy he's he's in he's in prison we never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► really get a lot of information about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► why he's in prison there's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► but not a lot he beat the heck out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► the two guys he robbed the bank with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► yeah walking away with the money but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► they could never prove that he took the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► money and the two guys wouldn't testify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► about the bank robbery so they were only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► able to put him away for three years for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► us oh there you go there you go but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► a it's not it's not a big mystery it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► just handled and it's and it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► and he's not like convicted of a crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► he didn't commit it's just he did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► thing he's serving some time he's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► to get out we meet him in jail and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► gonna get out and get back to his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► everything goes wrong cuz it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► released that she dies with his best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► friend who's going to give him the job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► when he goes back that they were having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► an affair and it is into this complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► like destruction of his attempt at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► Wednesday comes in and then of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► what's interesting is he goes to the he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► go this is something I did remember he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► goes to the funeral he's completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► completely confused and and and beside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► himself he flips a gold coin into her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► grave and she comes back to life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► appears throughout the rest of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► mostly as a reanimated a dead body who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► interesting relationship that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► whoops and she was also involved in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► whole robbery plot somehow but I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► really explained like at one point or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► apologizes for getting shadow involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► yeah but it's never really laid out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► she's involved in that exactly and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► would kind of like to know yeah there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► that like I said they definitely don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► seem to go get all the details of what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► you get the sense there's more to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► crime then lets on laura is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► interesting character right i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► way we meet hers first is this idealized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► you know woman who's the wife of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► prisoner who's going to finally get back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► to his sweetheart and then we get to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► her as the oh no but she was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► cheating on you behind your back and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► of that and so we get both extremes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► right and then when we meet her first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► she's already dead but now is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► walking around which is interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► uh and and so you get this really weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► ambivalent kind of relationship where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► impenetrable like barriers between them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► not only the the nature of how she died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► which was as a part of having an affair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► with this guy but also the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► she's dead now so you know it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► metaphorical and literal reasons why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► they can't really connect and it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► just find the whole relationship kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► fascinating that there's this great kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► of love between them and and yet also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► this kind of inseparable barrier between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► them he's very calm about the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► thing which is like like she shows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► dead in his hotel room and asks for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► cigarette who's like okay sure I'll go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► buy a pack of cigarettes and I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► huh isn't that shadow though like shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► that's that's a funny things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► shadow is that he's yeah he he he comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► across I mean we learn his origin story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► right which was that he was he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► picked on bookish kid and then he grew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► and he became treated then he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► treated like a like a big dumb guy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► underestimated all the time and uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► also has this thing where he can he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► do damage and be violent but but unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► brought to that point he's just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► easygoing and passive it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► fascinating kind of collection of traits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► Wednesday so early that I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► everything we see from shadow after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► he's kind of at the point where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► like all right God's got it right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► and he has an attitude that's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► know as long as you're paying me I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► believe whatever you want buddy that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► kind of how i feel about like taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► show like buffy the vampire slayer where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► you always have to have people say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► there's no magic spell on you like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► been a magic spell every other time Yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► leprechauns he reminds me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► of the character Parker from the Richard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► stark Donald westlake novels who is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► unflappable con man I mean he is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► know he's out for nobody but Parker but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► there's something of the same kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► you know well this is this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► situation i'm in I accept it I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► forward what do I do now and he only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► acts when he has to but this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► coming-of-age story to write like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► kind of a big guy who never grew up he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► been a little shiftless he somehow maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► his wife or maybe he kind of got into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► that situation committed an act of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► violence it was unusual for him and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► he's kind of meandering around he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► never figured out what he does is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► always think to is that also ties into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► the Laura saying about him you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► seemed like you were alive I walk into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► room right as you were there there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► presence she's the dead one and she says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► that I'm dead I'm saying this to you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► I think I mean obviously the whole book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► is a story of him actually achieving his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► Freudian thing your father has to die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► before you actually you know reach your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► own manhood or adulthood this is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► he learns that Odin is his father right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► that's one of the things that comes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► in it and it's sort of built to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► about his mother traveling around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► world and he ends up as a kid in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► Francisco at one point and all that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► we finally realized that yeah Odin is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► his father and that makes a lot of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► then that he was disconnected from his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► like actual life and now this insanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► that we're viewing of gods and Wars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► things like that actually is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► that connects him back to reality for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► him and who he is as a person this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► episode of the incomparable is sponsored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► in part by audible do you love books but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► find you never have time to read them do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► you listen to the incomparable book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► episode having not actually read books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► because you like the idea but never find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► can solve this problem because with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► audible you can get audio books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► listen to those books you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► meaning to read while you're living your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► life while you're on the go wherever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► are their app is free and works on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► iphones iPad Android Windows Phone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► name it you can download and listen on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► Kindle Fire 500 different mp3 players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► basically any device you can think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► will play these audible books and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► can listen and with audible you own your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► books you access them anytime and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► anywhere go back to them later they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► not checked out or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► they're yours to use right from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► smartphone and there is something called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► the great listen guarantee if you decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► you don't like the book you chose don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► worry you can exchange any book you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► weren't happy with for another title any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► time no questions asked now in this very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► audiobook production of american gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► and how amazing it is guess what it's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► audible so that could be your book right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► there the full cast production of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► american gods featuring a bunch of great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► actors including dennis boots of Charis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► who once personally insulted several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► members of the incomparable staff it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► long story anyway he's a great actor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► it's a great book so you could check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► that out that could be your audible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► choice or any of the books in our what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► out-of-print book that Glenn's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► mention because it's Glenn those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► unaudible I mean these audibles got at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► all and you can pick it including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► American Gods with the full cast and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► you like me you're in the kitchen you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► washing the dishes and cooking dinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► and you need something to do guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► pops some earbuds in your ears and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► time will fly by as you make your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► kitchen clean and feed your family while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► listening to a great book you can't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► more time but you can make the most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► it so turn your cooking time or your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► workout or your walk into something more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► with a free trial at audible go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► audible.com slash snell to start now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► actually you know one of the things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► this is neil gaiman moving to minnesota [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► from england the poor trails of intense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► cold like shadow at one point goes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► of the house and says it's pretty cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► and he's almost dead like a mile layer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► because it's like 30 below and he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► realize it it's like I that's enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► the details of like how you put tape on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► the windows with like plastic wrap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► all that and it's like that Neil Gaiman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► Minnesota but as a native californian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► especially it's like wow I I that stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► with me that this town where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► intensely cold like that just amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► detail not nothin do with God's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► just like it's really cold that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► really that's the most terrifying thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► in the book for you isn't it yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► 30 below are you kidding forget that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► it's just spectacular so that's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► little just evocative part there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► much of akut of stuff in here we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► even mentioned at least other than as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► aside lots of little short stories in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► this entire book about like how this how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► somebody came to America from somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► and brought their God along with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► and there are many of those and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► are all pretty great too I mean I kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► about you know I read a lot of american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► gods and all that but it reminded me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► Isak Dinesen it reminded me of Italo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► Calvino with with just these sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► side stories about God's and myth and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► was just that I loved I didn't mind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► I actually I almost didn't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► the plot of the book I really preferred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► the little digression if we're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► snooty it reminds me a little of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► second part of Don Quijote which is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► very much a story about stories in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► the story will come to a complete stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► so somebody can tell you a story well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► that's what I say like if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► looking at this as a book editor you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► could have paired this way back to with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► a fun story fun fantasy story right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► Gaiman has enough clout that he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► be listened to and and he's so good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► it I mean this is I want to come back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► this like when he was writing this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► he was I mean he wrote never wear it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► true but like he was famous comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► writer Neil Gaiman right he pretty miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► comic book writer Neil Gaiman and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► writes american gods and I read it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► think well I mean now it's a lot less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► obvious a lot more obvious right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► we know Neil Gaiman now but I read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► and I think damn this guy was so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► like never where is good but it's not on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► the level of american gods in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► you're writing skill I think he'd done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► half of Good Omens I don't like Good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► Omens I don't like Good Omens at all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► like Good Omens very much okay and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► like never wear to never wear is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► book but i don't i don't like gas but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► paragraphs and never wear and go like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► my god this guy is such a good writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► and in american gods i did that all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► time i was thinking about the whiskey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► jack business in terms of the writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► where they call him whiskey jack and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► heat over a few pages in the shadows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► thinking in his head doesn't there's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► many syllables there not saying whiskey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► jack but they keep saying whiskey jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► whiskey jack and then after a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► while introduces the we skated jack or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► whatever pronunciation is and but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► slow and so you're hearing shadow here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► something wrong and interpret it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► different way and i thought was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► clever but it didn't bug because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► like I have this little itch in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► like okay it's not whiskey Jack what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► it is he gonna tell us is he gonna tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► us and the story progresses and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► like oh it's just more complicated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► say name I think there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► respect for Native Americans in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► book that I appreciate too if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► going to talk about American Gods you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► need to talk about the Native American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► Gods too and so I like that we have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► we have a Native American character in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► Sam and we have a Native American God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► and then we have the story of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► coming because the Native Americans were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► also immigrants thousands of years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► to this continent and we get that story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► too and I like all of that all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► stuff is is is is pretty cool too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► it's just mixed into the pot and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► gaming's game and saying everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► brought their baggage with them when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► they came here this is a story as old as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► time like in fact it's the it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► Egyptians came here which is also by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► way I would say it's really cool but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► totally not supported by historical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► records but but the Egyptians came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► the Mississippi River sure why not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► then we know that the Norse came to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► you north america around a thousand they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► all brought their baggage with them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► left it here he's great even works in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► that that scout in the the tribe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► kind of coming over the land bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► whose gender bending and his you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► a scout was perceived as a man and does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► a man's job and is married and that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► a child you know through whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► of anthropological history but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► recollection is that is common across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► many cultures is that men and women had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► more fluid roles depending what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► needed they would step into a gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► role as opposed to being required to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► of that gender or being of a fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► gender I like the also i think one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► the most beautiful and heartbreaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► moments in is the story about the about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► the first people coming to north america [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► oh yeah and the end of that which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► basically like those people stayed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► of course the some of them stayed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► the others moved on and they created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► other tribes and all of that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► you know many thousands of years later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► some of those descendants came back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► this original valley which was the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► valley that was that was lived in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► killed all the people who are there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► found destroyed their God and found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► their God in the cave and threw it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► a ravine it's like it's so sad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► that's the depth that's deep history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► right deep human history of tens of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► thousands of years not even knowing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► those were the first there were their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► relatives and the first place that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► as a people landed in this continent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► it's just it's yeah it's tragic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► beautiful oh alright he had to make up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► the details but the overall story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► certainly accurate right yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► that's what the that's what the history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► shows yeah um I'm a big fan of channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► bog I think he is a 1 i've not chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► it's great character Wow well maybe I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► Chernabog maybe I'm bila Bhagat depends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► it depends on the season yeah but I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► I love that sort of weird flat with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► these old Slavic people who are gods but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► also you know over boiling vegetables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► and just the he comes from almost a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► different book but he sort of fits in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► like like a Nazi like you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► they're visiting from another story into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► this story and there's a whole other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► world I mean which leads us to not see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► boys but but cherub ah I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► just this the fact is he's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► resigned to his fate he figures he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► eventually gonna die out all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► believe them are gone he's a pretty dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► God he liked human sacrifice that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► part of what he was about and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► all these great forces arrayed and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► then he gets you know he he gets younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► because he sort of absorbs energy from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► the fight and that bet he makes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► Isis he has to put something at stake to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► make it real and it's kind of a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► bit of shifting point that's when Zoey a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► bowl and Shania takes him off and gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► him the moon and so forth but it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► great thing it's like he puts himself on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► the line it's like okay well some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► we're all done you come back and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► going to hit you in the head with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► hammer and kill you so I was like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► right and then I'll win the next game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► you come with this okay that's the deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► and he's always hanging over us for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► rest of the novel even though we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► pretty sure I mean I was pretty sure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► first time I read this that it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► gonna end with shouting his head bashed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► something would happen yeah now he's fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► he's a cranky old man like can't cranky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► crusty old guy who's Katie was young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► good cuz cuz by the undies younger he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► looks healthier and he becomes bulabog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► because the world is changing it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► brighter world and the three sisters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► cool there's I mean we could go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► forever about the all the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► because there are a lot of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► interesting characters we mentioned mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► ibis and jackal oh I love this drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► and they were on the funeral home that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► a great bit i love i love that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► just they're a lot of really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► gods that we meet along the way and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► love that they're all kind of down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► their luck that's why we meet them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► that they're not really worshipped so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► much anymore and and they just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► make do and get by and they tell horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► stories of like gods that they've known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► who have fallen on even harder times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► like whoever it is who ends up just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► being a bird I'm eating roadkill Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► Horace Horace Horace goes mad and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► it's just a bird most the time yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► would like to briefly complain about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► forgotten God if I may everybody wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► to good all right there is a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► who Neil Gaiman goes out of his way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► describe as rich and at the center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► things but that shadow cannot remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► at all beautifully presented and on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► face of it I think that's really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► however I also think Neil Gaiman had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► specific God in mind he said yes there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► is a specific God that can be figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► out and I think that it completely fails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► to describe whatever God he's picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► whether it's Hades which is a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► people's guests at one point the faq on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► his website somebody asked who is it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► then he said well I was going to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► but then I got this other email saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► people so now I'm never going to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► that question isn't it beautiful for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► to be undefined like that that it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► reminds me of the silence and Doctor Who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► right you look away and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► remember anymore its kind of really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► in the story and do we need to know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► a story it's made up sometimes not all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► the parts of a story fit I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► was the invisible hand of the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► except he explicitly states that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► intangibles are modern and they are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► invisible hand of the market as it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► think you know the invisible here the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► market goes back like it's an economic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► fact for hundreds of years as a as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► concept but he said no it's part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► stock market so it's not invisible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► many people come up with many guesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► and again I'm gonna say Neil claims it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► a specific God I like that as a concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► though it didn't bother me that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► know who it was but i think i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► reading the book i saw some reference to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► it that you never find out who it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► and so when i read the book again i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► like oh yeah i'm never gonna find out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► i just cope with that if it hadn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► a real god i would love it because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► would be Oh somebody we forgot although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► this forgotten God is doing really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► for himself but instead he got kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► cute about it and said oh and somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► but I'm not gonna tell you who it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► yeah it's not somebody and I'm honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► okay with that that does yeah me too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► yeah Monty's angry at neil gaiman's post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► publishing statements about the book not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► the actual text of the book yourself in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► this case right I want to move on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► just let everybody I mean I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► American Gods is the is the most notable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► work here to talk about but I did leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► some time because I know some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► read or reread Monty hi uh Nancy boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► for this and we talked about it a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2878">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► at the beginning but if there are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► to talk about if you've got some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► to say about an NC boys as the follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► it it's unclear whether it really fits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► in the Canon or not mr. Nancy is ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► only a little bit as a ghost cuz the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► whole story is that mr. Nancy dies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► he's got two sons that are a mismatched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► pair of sons who are the legacy to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► Anansi again spiritual fortune ? kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► thing that's going on so Monty anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► more to say about a nancy boy is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► really i mean it it is a much lighter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► book yeah it has themes but not deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► themes it is more more of a farce to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► write down to the fact that like spider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► spider pretends to be charlie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► ends up having sex with Charlie's fiance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► and I mean it's like wow it is meant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► be like a bedroom farce with God's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► of thing and insert yes and oh boy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► didn't realize my family was just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► crazy uh-huh and and I don't mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► in like it's a fun book but it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► wacky book I like the thing he brings up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► a few times in the book which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► all stories are Anansie stories even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► a Nancy doesn't win because stories are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► now about cleverness and smartness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► instead of being Tiger stories which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► all about winning through brute force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► and strength the thing the one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► that I remember from this book and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► actually I didn't remember that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► from this book until I read the summary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► and I was like oh that's what that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► is is the climax happening on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► Caribbean islands yeah which is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► every 30 dramatic at the end there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► that's like the the stakes are raised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► and there's the there's a Caribbean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► island and I think there's a storm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► yeah yeah well what's weird is when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► big climax happens both fat charlie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► beginning of the world nether realm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► they're not actually involved in saving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► the fiancé and her mother now save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► themselves I I have a I have a something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► I want to bring up there that ties in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► both American God at scotts and anansi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► boys which was the the representation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► consent and we talked about this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► on / before we do the podcast to which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► is uh you know I felt it's worse than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► anansi boys because I feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► handled trivially that that uh Rosie fat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► Charlie's fiancee she's like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► gonna have no not gonna sleep over I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► not gonna have sex with you before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► get married and then shadow waltzes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► and it basically says you're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► sleeping she's like okay yeah I'm sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► spider but yeah spider walks in and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► you'll have sex with me and she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► great and and there's no consequence to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► that she slaps him when she discovers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► and that's the end of that and I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► both that and then the representation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► mr. Wednesday's having to you know sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► of insatiable need to consume young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► women even underage women and at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► point a notes that one of the things he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► learned while I was on the World Tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► was that after he'd had them they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► never have another man again well it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► rather harsh and so there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► these different angles I was thinking in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► anansi boys in particular reminded me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► like the one of the flaws with revenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► of the nerds is that when the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► has sex with the Darth Vader mask on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► with the sports guy's girlfriend and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► she's and she doesn't know and he takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► it off and she's like oh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► essentially oh that was great you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► and he's like yeah and it's at when he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► actually just raped her and I felt a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► little bit of that in this book I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► it's not exactly you know it's not a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► don't think it's a depiction of sexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► assault per se but it comes really close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► to not making it a bad thing well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► think that's on purpose like not telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► you anything you don't know but Zeus got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► attractive swan what are you talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► consequence to his Zeus never gets wet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► mean it's it's not just a presentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► is the consequence is that mr. Wednesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► and mr. Wednesday the consequences he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► gets killed and he doesn't come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► because shadow is to sort of won't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► him come back you know Laura maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► Laura's the the analog or the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► representation of you know that force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► that prevents him because she's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► who ultimately destroys their ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► Loki and he to to recreate themselves so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► there is some adventure in anansi boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► there isn't it's I did like the bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► anansi boys when spider says later you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► know he could have forced her to be with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► him but he said even human be didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► snow and eventually become resentful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► even while you're forcing them to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► something but I didn't feel like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► was a resolution it suffer for it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► suffer for what he'd done I agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► that spider says that he rarely learns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► women's names and mr. Wednesday says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► something like I've never been that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► worried about legality and both of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► things kind of pass uncommented on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► that's yeah yeah well and in in American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► Gods you know again you've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► analog of Zeus and all that and yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► I think that is very intentional where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► is it a Nancy boys I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► I mean it could be but you know again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► all through the writing of it because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► followed his blog while he was doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► and you know it's just like this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► thorne-smith novel in it and for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► time that was all he called it that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► the only detail you knew about it most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► thorne-smith and it is a little more Bly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► than it's attitudes towards towards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► sex farce because you it can't bear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► ostensibly a violent act that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► portrayed as such you could are a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► and tries to redeem it later because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► Rosie realizes she fell in love with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► spider not with fat Charlie a spider so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► maybe it wasn't as unconcerned sayville [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► to guide her along but I still feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► I guess that's the thing is like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► can't have like the fact that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► slapped him and that's the consequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► like okay well we've dealt with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► issue of misrepresentation and being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► ordered to have sex let's move on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► know I don't know I think Damon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► generally very progressive and is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► when he does something that it's period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► he also has something that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► awful that happens to the person so did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► you get that doesn't mean anything he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► has awful things happen to all his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► characters all the time the Zeus thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► is what struck me about it in American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► Gods is there is that scene the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► Wednesday gets served by a very young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► waitress like a seventeen-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► waitress in a diner and he keeps talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► to her in this kind of gross old man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► trying to say charming things to her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► then you realize at some point that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► has God powers and he can just make her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► come to his hotel room and service him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► later and I read that as being first off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► you can't read it without thinking this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► is bad so I judged it and I felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► the author makes it clear that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► something that you should judge and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► too I just I felt like this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► the thing about these gods is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► have these powers and they abuse them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► and it goes all the way back to stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► from Greek and Roman mythology about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► God's having sex with mortals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► creating you know demigods and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► whatever they want and not caring about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► how it affects the mortal people so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► know maybe that was me bringing my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► read into it but in that scene American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► Gods I mean I I felt like I see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► he's doing here that I am meant to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► horrified I am in to think of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► like Zeus and so it worked for me on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► that level i didn't need I didn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► more from the author in terms of he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► it across to me about what was happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► and shadow shadow doesn't do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► but I feel like shadow is being his past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► himself which is you know he kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► doesn't know what he what he could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► but and mr. Wednesday dies forever so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► there is that I would like to briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► talk about roadside attractions yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► which are a huge theme in this book yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► this is neil gaiman coming to america [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► and being like wow here is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► that it exists but i did not know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► and i'm gonna work it into my book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► say that these are places of power in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► attraction so on the one hand I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► with him that roadside attractions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► great house on the rock sounds amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► I've paid money to go to a mystery spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► it was amazing things rolled uphill but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► here's the thing about this at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► they Wednesday is explaining how people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► biltz random things in random places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► because they were places of power and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► shadow says so Disneyland must be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► powerful right and Wednesday has to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► maybe a little but not Disney World know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► basically the imprint we get is the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► successful tourist attractions art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► magical only the little crappy ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► uh-huh now this ties into I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► quote a short paragraph from the book he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► rolled over in bed and closed his eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► it occurred to him that the reason he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► liked Wednesday and mr. Nancy and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► opposition was pretty straightforward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► they might be dirty and cheap and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► food might taste like shit but at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► they didn't speak in cliches and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► would take a roadside attraction no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► matter how cheap how crooked her house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► said over a shopping mall any day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► you know what that really bugs me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► level of classism and looking down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► people that that reveals both about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► shadow and I think about Neil Gaiman it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► really really bothers me that first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► all you're saying well I'm better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► those stupid masses because I go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► places like house on the rock not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► Disneyland oh my stars I'm gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► her that's not genuine it's also saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► how much better he is then the idiots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► who built the roadside attractions both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► of those really bother me see I can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► can go along with the you know going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► the roadside attractions because I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► you know Disney World and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► that are very coldly calculated whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► one crazy person believed in this as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► idea and built this thing and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► like okay it's about faith it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► belief it's about you know being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► little crazy one crazy person built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► Disneyland David yeah with about my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► like Julian's has some stuff and Disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► World have no magic because yes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► corporate brand extension but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► you're you're on the right track to with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► the looking down on the people who built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► the roadside attractions I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► I read it as the chart as Neil Gaiman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► being charmed by Americana that's how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► read it is then well yeah yeah he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► charmed by these charming poor people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► and they're charming lack of artifice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► he's really looking looking down on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► Monty there's a thing that's described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► which is that two generations after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► people how to do something out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► restoration hardware like it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► artisanal pasta that was actually made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► because it was the only thing people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► could afford to make two generations ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► and it's exactly that's like look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► this wonderful magic these yokels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► accidentally made that's really terrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► because we can appreciate it I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► know I I again I I think that it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► looking down on them but appreciating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► them as more authentic than the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► that are constructed to be amusements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► and you know some of this may be some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► this may be also him trying to create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► dichotomy between the old and the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► where the new is corporate pleasure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► centers that are built for everybody as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► profit you know as profit generators and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► the the old are people who just believed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► in a thing or people found it fun and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► became popular kind of organically so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► didn't I didn't read it quite as bad as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► that but I house on the rock opened four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► years after disneyland both of them were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► creation of a creative person who wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► spend a lot of money creating a tourist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► traction the only difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► them is that Walt Disney knew what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► was doing and was not crazy also he knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► where to put a trick tourist attraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► the contempt in the book for for Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► Bunyan though ties into this it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► different aspect but but John Chapman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► kind of God but not exactly and it reads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► like I mean I the same reaction after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► reading a Michael Pollan book the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► about apples and pot and so forth have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► forgotten the name of the book but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► what I learned that I didn't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► Johnny Appleseed basically owned tracts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► of land was a good businessman had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► basically selling apples to for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► to make Applejack out of because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► was safe you could drink fermented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► alcohol or distilled alcohol and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► made very simply anyway I thought people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► are I thought he's playing apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► because he ate him but you can't eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► apples planted that way and I'm like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► so Neil Gaiman just write a book about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► this when he read American Gods he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► to stick that in and say I'm John I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► the real guy that Paul Bunyan but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► get when he says something like nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► ever tells stories about Paul Bunyan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► nobody believes in Paul Bunyan you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► like me it's like Paul Bunyan like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► knocked out part of the mythology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► because an ad agency came up with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► and I was like you know I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► really liked Paul Bunyan hmm never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► really liked that guy he's got a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► of statues that's true way more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► Johnny apples and roadside attraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► there's no us in the blue ox how can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► not love babe the Blue Ox what's it game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► complaining about babe I think what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► game in saying is that tall tales aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► gods because they're not the same issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► with that too is like well really but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► it's like oral tradition of yeah of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► stories that you're telling does it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► it make a difference he says yes it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► you must worry they must be worshipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► or else they don't they do not count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► Paul Bunyan comes out of mythology but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► he's bigger than life there's no Kirk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► he's only characteristics and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► spread as kind of an advertising thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► as an agglomeration of things as opposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► to a you know something that arose out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► of culture more I think I think game is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► vernacular and manufactured which may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► an artificial distinction it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► based on us in the rock he's walking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► really narrow line here because he wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► the story he wants to tell the story he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3718">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► wants to tell and it does start to break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► apart if you say well what about Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► Bunyan or you know where what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► Buddha what about you know what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► what about these other religions what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► about Muhammad what about like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► he's like knitted uh we're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► talk about any other religions it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► the ones that I want I want the I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► though kind of outmoded religions over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► here and I want that's like well what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► about media wouldn't like the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► said that they liked they were Jedi they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► believed in the Jedi when they filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► out the census form maybe obi-wan Kenobi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► should be around like nope nope we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► cooking shoes nope nope right like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► only use public domain so it's tricky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► and while I'm saying I think bringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► Johnny Appleseed and Paul Bunyan into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► the story at all was kind of a mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► like you don't need to go down that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► alley and I kind of felt like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► whole the idea of only using public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► domain gods as kind of why he cooed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► things like Disneyland and Disney World [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► otherwise you've got Mickey and Minnie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► showing up and bet in this battle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► like one copyright issues right into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► nobody wants to see the evil side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► mickey mouse ray speakers I do yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► grew up near disney world i know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► evil side of making me been explaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► that to children every saturday and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► doubt beaten up locals all right we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► should we should wrap this up i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► yes it is a little bit long but i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► enjoyed rereading it and i like it and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► recommend that people read american gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► before you go out and watch that TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► read the book it is beautifully written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► and has a lot of fun concepts in it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► feel like I complained a lot i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► like american gods yeah yeah and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► time around I actually listened to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► the full cast audiobook as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► reading it because i know i wasn't going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► to have time to read both of these books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► and so I got it from audible and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► performance and work of art ovens in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► of itself in that format so if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► want to like sit down and read it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► audio book is amazing it's great oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► there there are a few books where I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► the audio book as enjoyable as the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► and if there's a movie sometimes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► movie this is one of those i recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► american gods also I've really enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► rereading it I think it's very clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► anansi boys I enjoyed reading but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► don't remember i'm looking at the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► now on my screen and I hardly remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► it it keeps it's the it's the nameless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► plot that we don't know but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► think it's a good read but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► I mean it has nowhere near the impactor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► or like scope of American guts yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► I do really love the that like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► ghosts in anansi boys I think that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► that whole that whole subplot was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► I loved it a lot I mean I love that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► able to tell a totally different story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► using a similar concept or similar set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► of characters but yeah it doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► doesn't stick I don't think ever said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► this explicitly but the reason a Nancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► boys isn't really a sequel to american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► gods it's not the whole cosmology is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► different it is you boys yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► premise of it is the gods are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► animals people told stories about in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► prehistory there's still tiger they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► still spiders are still bird woman and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► there's this family like an anansie dies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► and bequeaths his powers to his children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► which is not how it works in american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► gods either and if you're one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► personifications of these things you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► go to other countries it's fine it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► fine right so so there isn't the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► version of a Nancy it's it's it's wholly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► within a Nancy's mythology as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► share it among older yeah that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► about right the epilogue is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► thing where he meets the Odin in Iceland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► it's just this very sweet little weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► thing and that God being so relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► benign and almost childlike and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► kind of being like a gaudy God like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► some big trick store whatever he's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► kind of like he's living large right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► yeah he's a solid old God with lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► belief behind them and it's very sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► very quickly before we go I'd like to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► around into a very quick round of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► something you've read recently we call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► this what are we reading something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► you've read recently that you've enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► that we could also recommend people ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► David do you want to give us something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► that you've read recently yeah I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► two books right now I just read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► story of your life by ted chang oh yes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► had put off for a long time and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► currently reading the Black Widow by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► daniel silva which is a spy novel read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► about that story in incomparable episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► where we talked about it including me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► and Glen we're on that episode oh that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► one Glen what are you reading well I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► got books I'm not reading in big stacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► but tell us about those what are you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► reading that would be always for talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► stacks I I was recently reading a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► beautifully typeset book from 9027 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► that's neither here nor there I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► that one's ashes the latest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► expanse books which I've been unable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► read I don't want to do any spoiling so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► but like I picked it up and I was like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► cannot read this in the current world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► climate I realized something at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► moment which was most fantasy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► science fiction books are about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► world being destroyed or earth being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► destroyed or earth having had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► destroyed or earth in the process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► about to collapse so I go and like under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► eat something fun I'll read hitchhiker's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► guide to the galaxy dough pitch over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► chapter yeah I do just for escape as for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► escapism and for an episode of a foot we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► read some of the Franny Fisher mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► novels by Carrie Greenwood we read a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► for an episode a few weeks ago and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► wound up really enjoying the book so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► much I've read the whole series to date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► and they're they're very they're well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► constructed I love the characters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► them it's richly fleshed out they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► started I didn't realize until reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► recently that carry Greenwood was sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► of writing some doing some research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► melbourne was almost called Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► australia i have to spread this fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► everywhere the citizen was called Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► I love this but she was doing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► historical research wounded through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► series of things pitching a novel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► then writing then turning to the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► that's into TV shows as well so I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► the whole the whole run I think 14 or 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► delightful good romps if you like yes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► more than Nero Wolfe kind of genre it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► actually very like that in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► more than st. Agatha Christie and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:27 ◼ ► you go fun together they're charming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► right Monty what are you reading uh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► I'm a big fan of El frank Baum's Oz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► books but I never read the books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► were written after that Oh My yes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► Ruth Plumlee Thompson I am working my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► way through the Ruth Plumlee Thompson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► books when I get to the end of those I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► John our Neil apparently wrote one on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► the theory that he's been drawing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► forever he might as well tell the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► himself why not so far they're not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► I've gotten through the Royal book of Oz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► and kabum PO in Oz but I'm told that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► after a few she really gets into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► groove and they will feel very Ozzie's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► so I'm very much looking forward to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► also I realize how this will sound given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► an earlier rant I'd make this episode I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► am reading a book entitled Walt Disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► an American original by Bob Thomas it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► a biography of Walt Disney all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► aleem what are you reading um so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► actually I'm kind of a rereading jag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► because I'm just having a hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► getting into new books right now so I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► currently rereading the expanse series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► I'm on cibola burn right now um and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► listening to the fifth season again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► Thank You audible.com for not sponsoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► this episode but I'm going to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► you anyway and yet in preparation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► upcoming maybe book club shows and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► need to get get a boogie on nebula best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► novel nominees soon but they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► first in a series and I'm like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► already invested in so many online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► series I'm having a hard time convincing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► myself to get started I need to buckle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► down and do that though well speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► sponsors I'm not going to tell you one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► recently is one of our sponsors in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► episode so you will have already heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► that ad by now thanks to John Birmingham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► I enjoyed Becky chambers a closing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► comment orbit which is this sort of it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► sort of a sequel to the long way to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► small angry planet Smalling we plan it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► a weird book it feels like a series you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► know of episodes of a TV show closing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► comment orbit much more of a novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► doesn't really follow many of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► characters it's sort of one character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► kind of from the first book but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► thought it was really good like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► good and legitimately a novel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► emotional and smart and has lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► questions about like finding your way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► the world and it's kind of the coming of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► age story of an artificial intelligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4258">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► kind of um really liked it thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► was really good like a way i was with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► past my expectations and I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► first book but for a second novel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► she killed it she did it she did a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► job i recently read for an upcoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► episode of the incomparable i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► broken kingdoms which is the second book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► of NK jemisin inheritance trilogy and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► i i read one hundred thousand kingdoms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► and then I just never continue with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► series and despite the fact Glenn told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► me that they were all really good he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► right oh they're so it's really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► yeah broken kingdoms really great book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► and then to wrap it up I've got a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► of books so my longtime friend Tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► degree know who was a incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► listener big sci-fi fan passed away this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► week and I decided that to honor Tom who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► never got to be on the show although we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► talked about it a couple of times he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► see us do our presentation at SAS Quan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► when we did the radio theatre at SAS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► quani and his wife Dori came to the king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► goodreads because he's a good freed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► friend and two books that he he rated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► five stars that are fairly recent sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► fantasy novels and you might want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► check out up against it by MJ lock and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► redemption arc by alastair reynolds both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► five stars from Tom Negreanu and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► guy knew what he was talking about so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► those are probably both very good books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► you should check them out and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► gonna miss you Tom so that's it for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► edition of the incomparable I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► thank my guests for helping me go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► and reread books that I've forgotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► about because that happened and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► american gods again aleem sims thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► so much for being here yeah always loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► being on the show Monty Ashley thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► it see it slow ki Young's really low-key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► if you say it I mean I do like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► shadow says it out loud and he's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► I like how slow he is on that one yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► know your pal is Odin and you said Loki [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► several times not the brightest at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► times David Laura thank you thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► thank Allah Fleischman thank you very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► much I'm the nameless Glenn and I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► be thanks rub me on and I see everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► out there for listing we will be back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► next week with another edition of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► nobody leaves home alive right but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► much Wait Wait nobody leaves home alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► Glenn that is terrible very short story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► remain indoors remain indoors nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► ever gets to come home nobody leaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► leave nobody comes home and unscathed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa9RthI/4421">TS</a>]