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00:00:01 ◼ ► the Intolerable number 171 November 2030 [TS]

00:00:09 ◼ ► welcome back everybody to be [TS]

00:00:10 ◼ ► uncomfortable i'm your host Jason snail [TS]

00:00:12 ◼ ► and we're back with a sequel to episode [TS]

00:00:14 ◼ ► 99 if you consult your uncomfortable [TS]

00:00:17 ◼ ► reference materials that I you no doubt [TS]

00:00:20 ◼ ► bring out before you listen to every [TS]

00:00:22 ◼ ► episode to tally how many times I [TS]

00:00:24 ◼ ► comment about how many books Scott multi [TS]

00:00:27 ◼ ► reads or how many references to david [TS]

00:00:30 ◼ ► Flores the next day and more'n or you [TS]

00:00:32 ◼ ► know you i can't really expect anybody [TS]

00:00:34 ◼ ► to count the number of times we talk [TS]

00:00:36 ◼ ► about Glendinning because that's like [TS]

00:00:37 ◼ ► nearly an infinite number if my math is [TS]

00:00:40 ◼ ► correct but anyway you'll discover that [TS]

00:00:42 ◼ ► episode 99 with something we call the [TS]

00:00:43 ◼ ► summer reading list which was not really [TS]

00:00:45 ◼ ► a draft so much as just a an opportunity [TS]

00:00:48 ◼ ► for us to pick books that we like that [TS]

00:00:50 ◼ ► we wanted to recommend that everybody [TS]

00:00:51 ◼ ► out there might want to read we got a [TS]

00:00:54 ◼ ► lot of feedback from people saying hey [TS]

00:00:55 ◼ ► I'm looking for a good book to read you [TS]

00:00:58 ◼ ► got any suggestions and so we're doing [TS]

00:00:59 ◼ ► it again and so that was the summer [TS]

00:01:01 ◼ ► reading list I guess this is the winter [TS]

00:01:03 ◼ ► reading list although there's no theme [TS]

00:01:04 ◼ ► intended here other than books we like [TS]

00:01:07 ◼ ► and by the time we're done you should [TS]

00:01:08 ◼ ► have more than a dozen books that you [TS]

00:01:11 ◼ ► cannot consider to put on your own [TS]

00:01:13 ◼ ► reading list or if you want if you're [TS]

00:01:15 ◼ ► expecting gifts this holiday season [TS]

00:01:17 ◼ ► put on your gift list and have a and [TS]

00:01:20 ◼ ► have your loved ones buy them for you [TS]

00:01:22 ◼ ► so everybody's going to pick some books [TS]

00:01:23 ◼ ► they like and talk about them a little [TS]

00:01:24 ◼ ► bit and that's the whole show [TS]

00:01:26 ◼ ► let me introduce these people who are [TS]

00:01:28 ◼ ► who have read at least three books to [TS]

00:01:31 ◼ ► comprise a list [TS]

00:01:32 ◼ ► David lore as i mentioned before he's on [TS]

00:01:35 ◼ ► almost every podcast but dan morons not [TS]

00:01:37 ◼ ► on hi David [TS]

00:01:39 ◼ ► hello I'm still talking about the Glen [TS]

00:01:42 ◼ ► innings and in my cleaning ledger two [TS]

00:01:44 ◼ ► separate book actually witches it's a [TS]

00:01:46 ◼ ► cookbook [TS]

00:01:47 ◼ ► it's a cookbook doesn't count against [TS]

00:01:49 ◼ ► your 30 it's not a very good read no i'm [TS]

00:01:52 ◼ ► not i wouldn't recommend not Glenn [TS]

00:01:53 ◼ ► fleischmann a4 mentioned is here hi [TS]

00:01:55 ◼ ► Kline hello [TS]

00:01:56 ◼ ► I shall mention no German novels this [TS]

00:01:58 ◼ ► evening it's too bad the sorrows young [TS]

00:02:00 ◼ ► birther is actually not that not that [TS]

00:02:02 ◼ ► bad but next Island fun [TS]

00:02:04 ◼ ► that's right ya next time Lisa [TS]

00:02:06 ◼ ► Schmeisser is also here [TS]

00:02:08 ◼ ► hi Lisa hi good to have you here thank [TS]

00:02:11 ◼ ► you it's nice to be here [TS]

00:02:12 ◼ ► Erica and sign is back with us again hi [TS]

00:02:15 ◼ ► Erica [TS]

00:02:16 ◼ ► hello nice to be back yes excellent and [TS]

00:02:19 ◼ ► Scott McNulty of course the ringer he's [TS]

00:02:21 ◼ ► read all the books you can pick any [TS]

00:02:23 ◼ ► look and welcome Scott winter is coming [TS]

00:02:27 ◼ ► Jason yeah that's right and you need [TS]

00:02:28 ◼ ► books you need books to burn for warm as [TS]

00:02:34 ◼ ► you need them [TS]

00:02:35 ◼ ► so is this why you read the george RR [TS]

00:02:36 ◼ ► martin is it last longer in a blizzard [TS]

00:02:38 ◼ ► yeah exactly you can enjoy a page it [TS]

00:02:41 ◼ ► before you burn it [TS]

00:02:42 ◼ ► yeah that's right i have a cottage built [TS]

00:02:44 ◼ ► entirely of Stephen King novels for that [TS]

00:02:46 ◼ ► reason Jim la creepiest cottage is not [TS]

00:02:51 ◼ ► of stephen king himself so because I I [TS]

00:02:55 ◼ ► just can't resist the the draft format [TS]

00:02:58 ◼ ► we will least pick in some sort of order [TS]

00:02:59 ◼ ► and I've asked my panelists not to pick [TS]

00:03:02 ◼ ► any of the books that were in episode 99 [TS]

00:03:04 ◼ ► because we don't want to be the kind of [TS]

00:03:06 ◼ ► friends who keep recommending the same [TS]

00:03:09 ◼ ► books to you over and over again that [TS]

00:03:10 ◼ ► gets boring so we're going to be we're [TS]

00:03:12 ◼ ► gonna do things a little differently and [TS]

00:03:13 ◼ ► i'm going to start with Lisa Schmeisser [TS]

00:03:16 ◼ ► what do you--what do you have with your [TS]

00:03:18 ◼ ► first recommendation my first [TS]

00:03:20 ◼ ► recommendation is Christopher Moore's [TS]

00:03:22 ◼ ► the last lizard of melancholy cove I've [TS]

00:03:26 ◼ ► never heard of this really is a whole [TS]

00:03:28 ◼ ► Israel are you getting on it is a beta [TS]

00:03:32 ◼ ► book now the less lizard of melancholy [TS]

00:03:34 ◼ ► Cove is probably the best entry to his [TS]

00:03:38 ◼ ► increasing body of work [TS]

00:03:40 ◼ ► christopher moore is an author based out [TS]

00:03:42 ◼ ► of central to Northern California who [TS]

00:03:44 ◼ ► may be known in less fantasy and sci-fi [TS]

00:03:47 ◼ ► circles for his book lamb the gospel of [TS]

00:03:52 ◼ ► biff christ's childhood pal and i highly [TS]

00:03:55 ◼ ► recommend land but in order to figure [TS]

00:03:57 ◼ ► out whether or not you like Chris more [TS]

00:03:58 ◼ ► as a whole [TS]

00:03:59 ◼ ► you should read the last lizard of [TS]

00:04:01 ◼ ► melancholy co-first it's about an [TS]

00:04:03 ◼ ► ancient sea creature which gets aroused [TS]

00:04:07 ◼ ► by a leak at a local nuclear plant [TS]

00:04:09 ◼ ► somehow stumbled into a trailer park [TS]

00:04:11 ◼ ► assumes protective coloration and in [TS]

00:04:15 ◼ ► order to lure his prey he sends out [TS]

00:04:17 ◼ ► vibes that somehow managed to readjust [TS]

00:04:19 ◼ ► everybody's mental health problems and [TS]

00:04:20 ◼ ► libido and gradually the residents of [TS]

00:04:23 ◼ ► the town which include a psychiatrist [TS]

00:04:25 ◼ ► who's watching her clientele drop off a [TS]

00:04:28 ◼ ► pothead sheriff and X scream queen who [TS]

00:04:33 ◼ ► is also a paranoid schizophrenic [TS]

00:04:36 ◼ ► and a wildlife naturalist team up to [TS]

00:04:39 ◼ ► figure out what's going on and get this [TS]

00:04:40 ◼ ► in and get the big monster back in the [TS]

00:04:42 ◼ ► ocean it's SuperDuper funny humane and [TS]

00:04:45 ◼ ► compassionate and once you read that you [TS]

00:04:48 ◼ ► can then move on to things like oh gosh [TS]

00:04:53 ◼ ► bite me which is about vampires living [TS]

00:04:54 ◼ ► in San Francisco you can then move onto [TS]

00:04:57 ◼ ► the island of the sequence love none [TS]

00:05:00 ◼ ► which is about an organ running [TS]

00:05:01 ◼ ► operations somewhere in the southeast [TS]

00:05:03 ◼ ► and it all culminates in creating his [TS]

00:05:05 ◼ ► heartwarming classic about Christmas [TS]

00:05:06 ◼ ► zombies called the stupidest angel [TS]

00:05:09 ◼ ► anyway i highly recommend the less [TS]

00:05:12 ◼ ► lizard of melancholy code it's a nice [TS]

00:05:13 ◼ ► fast read it's light but still touches [TS]

00:05:15 ◼ ► on themes like how people handle career [TS]

00:05:18 ◼ ► disappointments are compromised [TS]

00:05:20 ◼ ► how do you know that the endless [TS]

00:05:21 ◼ ► optimism of trying to reinvent yourself [TS]

00:05:22 ◼ ► and of course what you do when a giant [TS]

00:05:24 ◼ ► lost lizard falls in love with a crazy [TS]

00:05:26 ◼ ► woman who once played on Kendra warrior [TS]

00:05:29 ◼ ► princess of the outback wow wow that's [TS]

00:05:33 ◼ ► so that's a really serious button-down [TS]

00:05:35 ◼ ► kinda low yeah only serious people read [TS]

00:05:38 ◼ ► those books but the fact that I gotta [TS]

00:05:40 ◼ ► say island of the sequence love none was [TS]

00:05:42 ◼ ► my my entry [TS]

00:05:43 ◼ ► yeah to his books I mean way way back [TS]

00:05:46 ◼ ► and it was like first out because I [TS]

00:05:49 ◼ ► literally saw the title i didn't even [TS]

00:05:50 ◼ ► look at the back of the book I went mine [TS]

00:05:53 ◼ ► yes Tucker the pirate oh my gosh better [TS]

00:05:57 ◼ ► and sleep [TS]

00:05:57 ◼ ► yeah you find out what happens to tuck [TS]

00:05:59 ◼ ► her in CP in the stupid Christmas like I [TS]

00:06:01 ◼ ► have them all lined up here [TS]

00:06:03 ◼ ► oh yeah oh yeah you're gonna like one of [TS]

00:06:05 ◼ ► my later pics yeah oh oh oh my gosh yeah [TS]

00:06:09 ◼ ► another one who I almost went for full [TS]

00:06:12 ◼ ► because i really loved his take on [TS]

00:06:14 ◼ ► leader and I see I wanted to write that [TS]

00:06:16 ◼ ► as a play and that came out like a month [TS]

00:06:18 ◼ ► later is acceptable board so good to its [TS]

00:06:22 ◼ ► it is it the Chris but Kristen Moore's a [TS]

00:06:26 ◼ ► lot like terry pratchett who are poor [TS]

00:06:28 ◼ ► showing in that as he's gotten older [TS]

00:06:30 ◼ ► he's tackled more serious themes and has [TS]

00:06:33 ◼ ► been less a friend has been you know he [TS]

00:06:34 ◼ ► still brings the funny but he's also not [TS]

00:06:37 ◼ ► afraid to to pull at your heartstrings [TS]

00:06:39 ◼ ► and and talk about the universal Church [TS]

00:06:41 ◼ ► is a human life and and full is is [TS]

00:06:44 ◼ ► probably at the top of the genre for [TS]

00:06:46 ◼ ► that but I really think that if you want [TS]

00:06:49 ◼ ► start with early [TS]

00:06:49 ◼ ► the first book is practical demon [TS]

00:06:51 ◼ ► keeping which gives you a taste to him [TS]

00:06:53 ◼ ► but I really don't think he came into [TS]

00:06:54 ◼ ► his own until less sensitive of [TS]

00:06:57 ◼ ► melancholy cove yeah and so I would read [TS]

00:07:00 ◼ ► that and then if you want then go back [TS]

00:07:02 ◼ ► and backtracked a practical demon [TS]

00:07:03 ◼ ► keeping which ex is kind of a prequel [TS]

00:07:05 ◼ ► and then you read that the vampire [TS]

00:07:07 ◼ ► series which is bite me and you stock [TS]

00:07:10 ◼ ► and that are some and then there's the [TS]

00:07:14 ◼ ► one he does about the Angel of Death [TS]

00:07:15 ◼ ► taking over San Francisco for a little [TS]

00:07:16 ◼ ► bit and I can't remember that one of the [TS]

00:07:19 ◼ ► top of my head and and then of course [TS]

00:07:21 ◼ ► there's lamb which I read almost every [TS]

00:07:23 ◼ ► year around Easter so I feel like this [TS]

00:07:25 ◼ ► guy is like a boat uh-oh of a I don't [TS]

00:07:27 ◼ ► know byline vampire or something where I [TS]

00:07:29 ◼ ► like I can't see him [TS]

00:07:31 ◼ ► i I just it's it's weird I feel like [TS]

00:07:33 ◼ ► I've I should have heard of him and [TS]

00:07:35 ◼ ► maybe I have but it certainly didn't [TS]

00:07:37 ◼ ► stick so that's cool that's a great one [TS]

00:07:39 ◼ ► I love it when I'm completely taken by [TS]

00:07:42 ◼ ► surprise by a choice so when Scott pics [TS]

00:07:44 ◼ ► a book about Hitler later they are all [TS]

00:07:50 ◼ ► about Hitler [TS]

00:07:51 ◼ ► yeah well and I won't be surprised and [TS]

00:07:53 ◼ ► so i won't be impressed got all right so [TS]

00:07:56 ◼ ► that's great [TS]

00:07:57 ◼ ► Lisa thank you very much let's move on [TS]

00:07:58 ◼ ► to David Lord David what's your [TS]

00:08:00 ◼ ► selection [TS]

00:08:01 ◼ ► well for my first pic I'm gonna kind of [TS]

00:08:04 ◼ ► cheap because i have an omnibus book [TS]

00:08:05 ◼ ► with the trilogy and it [TS]

00:08:08 ◼ ► oh yeah okay whatever it's fine [TS]

00:08:11 ◼ ► the rules are not first off Steve lesson [TS]

00:08:13 ◼ ► here and i bedeviled him with rules and [TS]

00:08:15 ◼ ► second we're just trying to do good here [TS]

00:08:19 ◼ ► if someone here pick it up as an omnibus [TS]

00:08:21 ◼ ► it's all the more convenient right it's [TS]

00:08:23 ◼ ► not so much the honors several books he [TS]

00:08:25 ◼ ► took the covers off and glued together [TS]

00:08:26 ◼ ► that's pretty that's a yes I'm gonna [TS]

00:08:29 ◼ ► support this one hundred percent [TS]

00:08:30 ◼ ► foreshadowing oh dear ok what is what is [TS]

00:08:33 ◼ ► happening already [TS]

00:08:35 ◼ ► Scott is a very well-behaved orderly [TS]

00:08:40 ◼ ► what some might say person is true also [TS]

00:08:44 ◼ ► doing it his books about Hitler wind-up [TS]

00:08:47 ◼ ► orderly life I David you were going to [TS]

00:08:50 ◼ ► pick the trilogy a trilogy called the [TS]

00:08:53 ◼ ► deptford trilogy by Robertson Davies [TS]

00:08:57 ◼ ► is a Canadian novelist and I mean he was [TS]

00:09:01 ◼ ► basically lived through the entire 20th [TS]

00:09:04 ◼ ► century passed away just around the turn [TS]

00:09:07 ◼ ► of the century this year this bet the [TS]

00:09:09 ◼ ► century but even even that a lot of [TS]

00:09:12 ◼ ► people have considered him like the [TS]

00:09:13 ◼ ► Canadian Dickens because he he writes [TS]

00:09:18 ◼ ► these you just immensely detailed [TS]

00:09:21 ◼ ► stories of life in Canada throughout the [TS]

00:09:24 ◼ ► century and this one is kind of an [TS]

00:09:27 ◼ ► amazing trilogy it's not even that the [TS]

00:09:29 ◼ ► first one that I got into but it's [TS]

00:09:30 ◼ ► probably his best the first part of it [TS]

00:09:34 ◼ ► is called fifth business and it's about [TS]

00:09:37 ◼ ► these two men who grow up in that like [TS]

00:09:41 ◼ ► the beginning of the 20th century the [TS]

00:09:42 ◼ ► end of the 19th century and one of them [TS]

00:09:45 ◼ ► is sort of a scholarly gentleman the [TS]

00:09:48 ◼ ► other one is the son of a politician he [TS]

00:09:51 ◼ ► grows up to be a big businessman he's a [TS]

00:09:55 ◼ ► nasty piece of work and as children the [TS]

00:09:59 ◼ ► son of the politician packs a rock into [TS]

00:10:02 ◼ ► a snowball and tries to throw it at the [TS]

00:10:05 ◼ ► academic kid who ducks and it hits a [TS]

00:10:08 ◼ ► pregnant woman and causes her to go into [TS]

00:10:10 ◼ ► labor and all three books spin out of [TS]

00:10:15 ◼ ► that single incident which is kind of [TS]

00:10:18 ◼ ► amazing [TS]

00:10:19 ◼ ► so the first book is about the academic [TS]

00:10:22 ◼ ► growing up and sort of him watching how [TS]

00:10:24 ◼ ► the other kid is just evil and nasty and [TS]

00:10:28 ◼ ► manages to become this big businessman [TS]

00:10:30 ◼ ► the second book is from the point of [TS]

00:10:33 ◼ ► view of the son of the businessman going [TS]

00:10:36 ◼ ► through therapy trying to understand his [TS]

00:10:39 ◼ ► father and understand what his father [TS]

00:10:41 ◼ ► did [TS]

00:10:42 ◼ ► that's called the manticore and then the [TS]

00:10:45 ◼ ► last book is called world of wonders and [TS]

00:10:48 ◼ ► it's about the kid who was born as a [TS]

00:10:51 ◼ ► result of the early labor [TS]

00:10:53 ◼ ► he became a hobo for a while and then [TS]

00:10:56 ◼ ► turns into a world-renowned magician and [TS]

00:11:00 ◼ ► sort of manages to get his revenge in [TS]

00:11:02 ◼ ► the end it's amazing and just the [TS]

00:11:05 ◼ ► thought that all of these bizarre [TS]

00:11:07 ◼ ► wonderful stories spin out of [TS]

00:11:09 ◼ ► a kid throwing a snowball just blew my [TS]

00:11:13 ◼ ► mind when i read it was canada but it's [TS]

00:11:16 ◼ ► kinda yeah [TS]

00:11:17 ◼ ► happens all the time so snowballs are [TS]

00:11:18 ◼ ► available so so lots of beer and bacon [TS]

00:11:21 ◼ ► and everyone says hey it's wonderful i [TS]

00:11:24 ◼ ► was I will second to this argumentation [TS]

00:11:27 ◼ ► huh i have read all of mr. Davies novels [TS]

00:11:31 ◼ ► and they are fantastic I oddly enough i [TS]

00:11:34 ◼ ► read them because Moxie previous [TS]

00:11:36 ◼ ► canadian band song called my baby loves [TS]

00:11:40 ◼ ► a bunch of authors which mentions [TS]

00:11:41 ◼ ► Robertson Davies that maybe look up [TS]

00:11:43 ◼ ► Robertson Davies and then I read all his [TS]

00:11:45 ◼ ► books thanks mark service that's [TS]

00:11:50 ◼ ► fantastic i have to say i mean as much [TS]

00:11:52 ◼ ► as I love this this is actually the [TS]

00:11:53 ◼ ► better written trilogy i prefer the [TS]

00:11:56 ◼ ► Cornish trilogy which came much later [TS]

00:11:58 ◼ ► he's he sort of goes exponentially [TS]

00:12:01 ◼ ► bazaar in that one so I i like that but [TS]

00:12:04 ◼ ► this is a very tight really nicely done [TS]

00:12:07 ◼ ► piece of work so alright so we have a [TS]

00:12:10 ◼ ► canadian author and Scott just mentioned [TS]

00:12:14 ◼ ► the canadian band [TS]

00:12:15 ◼ ► let's move on to our panelists was [TS]

00:12:17 ◼ ► married to a Canadian Erica what is your [TS]

00:12:20 ◼ ► selection it is a Canadian it's actually [TS]

00:12:23 ◼ ► i don't think it is i'm not really sure [TS]

00:12:24 ◼ ► i don't know a whole lot about this [TS]

00:12:25 ◼ ► author but my first book is a book [TS]

00:12:28 ◼ ► called monument by a fellow named Lloyd [TS]

00:12:30 ◼ ► bagel junior which is was published in [TS]

00:12:33 ◼ ► 1974 very old science fiction book and I [TS]

00:12:37 ◼ ► know you said that we didn't have to [TS]

00:12:38 ◼ ► have a winter theme but i actually do [TS]

00:12:40 ◼ ► refer to this book as either my winter [TS]

00:12:43 ◼ ► book or my bathtub book because i read [TS]

00:12:46 ◼ ► it every single winter in the bathtub [TS]

00:12:47 ◼ ► and it's not actually about winter at [TS]

00:12:50 ◼ ► all it's about a planet that is [TS]

00:12:52 ◼ ► completely a paradise [TS]

00:12:55 ◼ ► it'sit's almost entirely water it's [TS]

00:12:57 ◼ ► totally tropical there are wonderful [TS]

00:12:59 ◼ ► things to eat the temperature is always [TS]

00:13:01 ◼ ► perfect there sandy beaches and it's [TS]

00:13:04 ◼ ► lovely and it's just kind of a nice [TS]

00:13:05 ◼ ► place to escape to for me in the winter [TS]

00:13:08 ◼ ► well I'm gonna warm bath it's freezing [TS]

00:13:09 ◼ ► cold outside I think after i moved to [TS]

00:13:12 ◼ ► Edmonton i'll be reading it twice every [TS]

00:13:13 ◼ ► year but anyway so it takes place far [TS]

00:13:18 ◼ ► far in the future when at a time when [TS]

00:13:19 ◼ ► interstellar travel is kinda no big deal [TS]

00:13:22 ◼ ► humans have come [TS]

00:13:23 ◼ ► analyzed all over the galaxy and a [TS]

00:13:25 ◼ ► fellow named Serrano Brian crash-lands [TS]

00:13:28 ◼ ► his spaceship on this paradise planet [TS]

00:13:30 ◼ ► and he eventually realizes that he needs [TS]

00:13:34 ◼ ► to protect it because eventually some [TS]

00:13:36 ◼ ► big terrible nasty corporation is going [TS]

00:13:38 ◼ ► to come in and try to take over and and [TS]

00:13:40 ◼ ► ruin what these lovely natives on this [TS]

00:13:42 ◼ ► planet have everything is just in [TS]

00:13:44 ◼ ► perfect balance and he doesn't want that [TS]

00:13:46 ◼ ► to get thrown off so he comes up with a [TS]

00:13:48 ◼ ► plan and that's plan with a capital P [TS]

00:13:50 ◼ ► and i'm not going to say any more about [TS]

00:13:53 ◼ ► it than that because i actually want [TS]

00:13:55 ◼ ► people to read it and it's one of those [TS]

00:13:57 ◼ ► books that just unfolds really nicely i [TS]

00:14:00 ◼ ► didn't see the end coming maybe you will [TS]

00:14:03 ◼ ► I'm not very good at that sort of thing [TS]

00:14:04 ◼ ► so but anyway sort of hilarity ensues [TS]

00:14:07 ◼ ► along with a healthy dose of mystery [TS]

00:14:09 ◼ ► confusion frustration hopelessness it [TS]

00:14:11 ◼ ► kind of runs the gamut goes up and down [TS]

00:14:13 ◼ ► it's it's a very quick read [TS]

00:14:15 ◼ ► it's very simple it's just kind of a [TS]

00:14:16 ◼ ► classic like pulpy sci-fi type story and [TS]

00:14:20 ◼ ► apparently is based on a short story [TS]

00:14:21 ◼ ► didn't know that until i looked it up [TS]

00:14:23 ◼ ► today to prep for this but it is one of [TS]

00:14:26 ◼ ► my all-time favorite books i just love [TS]

00:14:27 ◼ ► love love it [TS]

00:14:29 ◼ ► wow ok so approving that I am a complete [TS]

00:14:33 ◼ ► in great i have not heard of any of the [TS]

00:14:35 ◼ ► books that you guys have talked about [TS]

00:14:37 ◼ ► you [TS]

00:14:37 ◼ ► that's great that's the whole point of [TS]

00:14:39 ◼ ► the podcast your know it is it's great [TS]

00:14:41 ◼ ► it is it's due to help out in greats [TS]

00:14:43 ◼ ► like me [TS]

00:14:43 ◼ ► okay okay so-so get break already brace [TS]

00:14:46 ◼ ► yourselves because I can only imagine [TS]

00:14:48 ◼ ► things are going to get even more [TS]

00:14:49 ◼ ► impressive now when Scott McNulty makes [TS]

00:14:51 ◼ ► his selection so Scott so no prejudice [TS]

00:14:56 ◼ ► this book is about a young boy was born [TS]

00:14:58 ◼ ► in Austria destined for great know [TS]

00:15:02 ◼ ► it is not about Hitler it is a black car [TS]

00:15:05 ◼ ► I'm gonna pick up a book just came out [TS]

00:15:08 ◼ ► this year and it's a debut novel called [TS]

00:15:12 ◼ ► ancillary justice by Ann Leckie I guess [TS]

00:15:16 ◼ ► that's how I don't have scissors as last [TS]

00:15:18 ◼ ► name but that's how I said so there you [TS]

00:15:21 ◼ ► go [TS]

00:15:21 ◼ ► so it's a space opera it reminded me [TS]

00:15:23 ◼ ► very much of tnm banks who is dead so we [TS]

00:15:27 ◼ ► won't be needing any more of his books I [TS]

00:15:29 ◼ ► will [TS]

00:15:30 ◼ ► well that's true because i haven't read [TS]

00:15:31 ◼ ► one of the two of them so we won't [TS]

00:15:34 ◼ ► really get a new is we will be producing [TS]

00:15:36 ◼ ► anything [TS]

00:15:37 ◼ ► fair enough and its first set of the [TS]

00:15:39 ◼ ► space opera it focuses on this one [TS]

00:15:42 ◼ ► character called brick who is actually [TS]

00:15:45 ◼ ► in in this universe there are these [TS]

00:15:49 ◼ ► artificial intelligences that run ships [TS]

00:15:51 ◼ ► which sounds very familiar true the [TS]

00:15:53 ◼ ► culture except that which is the en banc [TS]

00:15:55 ◼ ► sitting accept these ships all carry on [TS]

00:15:58 ◼ ► ancillary fees which are conquered [TS]

00:16:02 ◼ ► beings that this race conquerors and [TS]

00:16:05 ◼ ► freezes and then uses their bodies to [TS]

00:16:08 ◼ ► become an extension of the ship's AI so [TS]

00:16:12 ◼ ► every ship has thousands upon thousands [TS]

00:16:14 ◼ ► of frozen corpses and it's hold so we [TS]

00:16:16 ◼ ► can send them off and use them as kind [TS]

00:16:19 ◼ ► of like droids and you know it'll go to [TS]

00:16:22 ◼ ► the the different parts of the ship and [TS]

00:16:24 ◼ ► perform different functions so each of [TS]

00:16:26 ◼ ► the ai's breaks up its consciousness [TS]

00:16:28 ◼ ► into thousands of different parts and [TS]

00:16:30 ◼ ► they all act interact and act [TS]

00:16:32 ◼ ► independently and they can all share [TS]

00:16:34 ◼ ► their visions and so this is one of [TS]

00:16:37 ◼ ► these ancillary that's broken off and [TS]

00:16:39 ◼ ► you don't really know why it's by itself [TS]

00:16:40 ◼ ► and its kind of trying to it has a [TS]

00:16:44 ◼ ► mission in mind it's going after the [TS]

00:16:47 ◼ ► leader of this culture this race is [TS]

00:16:50 ◼ ► called the radish and the leader is a [TS]

00:16:52 ◼ ► person who has broken that their [TS]

00:16:55 ◼ ► consciousness over thousands of [TS]

00:16:57 ◼ ► different bodies so they are on each of [TS]

00:16:59 ◼ ► the conquered planets that they haven't [TS]

00:17:01 ◼ ► have different palaces that they inhabit [TS]

00:17:02 ◼ ► so it's a fascinating book and this this [TS]

00:17:07 ◼ ► race its language has no concept of [TS]

00:17:09 ◼ ► gender and so there are lots of [TS]

00:17:11 ◼ ► different races they the character [TS]

00:17:13 ◼ ► interacts with but aight this [TS]

00:17:15 ◼ ► person can't really Express gender so [TS]

00:17:17 ◼ ► you never know what the gender of the [TS]

00:17:20 ◼ ► character that they're talking about is [TS]

00:17:22 ◼ ► until another character addresses them [TS]

00:17:25 ◼ ► so it's very it's a very interesting [TS]

00:17:27 ◼ ► read and it's coming at a space opera in [TS]

00:17:30 ◼ ► a different way than I've ever [TS]

00:17:31 ◼ ► experienced before so check it out [TS]

00:17:33 ◼ ► I've heard of that one only because I i [TS]

00:17:37 ◼ ► think the author or wrote a blog post [TS]

00:17:39 ◼ ► about the the challenge of of [TS]

00:17:43 ◼ ► understanding artificial intelligence [TS]

00:17:45 ◼ ► from the perspective of that which is [TS]

00:17:47 ◼ ► like multiple bodies and and and the [TS]

00:17:50 ◼ ► challenge of portraying that I i just i [TS]

00:17:52 ◼ ► read that a few weeks ago so that's very [TS]

00:17:53 ◼ ► cool [TS]

00:17:54 ◼ ► you should read the book i will i will [TS]

00:17:55 ◼ ► i'll do that it's the Scot MacDonald [TS]

00:17:57 ◼ ► guarantee it exists you guarantee that i [TS]

00:18:01 ◼ ► should read it after that is my problem [TS]

00:18:06 ◼ ► I glad it's your turn what I know i read [TS]

00:18:10 ◼ ► a book I this book was actually [TS]

00:18:12 ◼ ► recommended to me by someone who I feel [TS]

00:18:14 ◼ ► terrible because they said oh if you [TS]

00:18:17 ◼ ► like these books like I think in one [TS]

00:18:19 ◼ ► episode was talking about Shiva 3000 [TS]

00:18:21 ◼ ► bhai jaan Lars jensen and celestial [TS]

00:18:24 ◼ ► matters by Richard Garfinkel which I [TS]

00:18:26 ◼ ► could talk about a little bit later to [TS]

00:18:27 ◼ ► his good books but i think i mentioned [TS]

00:18:29 ◼ ► those another episode and they said well [TS]

00:18:30 ◼ ► if you like that you should read Lord of [TS]

00:18:32 ◼ ► Light by Rogers allows mean I said [TS]

00:18:34 ◼ ► that's funny I have never read any [TS]

00:18:36 ◼ ► Rogers lastly which makes me a terrible [TS]

00:18:38 ◼ ► terrible science-fiction fan I because [TS]

00:18:40 ◼ ► it does I because you should basically [TS]

00:18:42 ◼ ► have read I think Henry others are [TS]

00:18:44 ◼ ► really laughs I'm just i'll leave now so [TS]

00:18:46 ◼ ► this podcast is over [TS]

00:18:47 ◼ ► that's right and uh I have a feeling [TS]

00:18:50 ◼ ► that when i was younger i try to read [TS]

00:18:51 ◼ ► something and it was impenetrable I just [TS]

00:18:53 ◼ ► never came back with all that guy's one [TS]

00:18:54 ◼ ► of those you know robert silverberg [TS]

00:18:55 ◼ ► people or something and oh and so I so I [TS]

00:19:01 ◼ ► picked this up again from the library [TS]

00:19:02 ◼ ► and it is completely fantastic and [TS]

00:19:05 ◼ ► amazing and it's was written the year i [TS]

00:19:07 ◼ ► was born won the hugo that year was a [TS]

00:19:10 ◼ ► finalist for the nebula and for best [TS]

00:19:13 ◼ ► novel and was kind of sounds like the [TS]

00:19:15 ◼ ► basis of his career and I can see why [TS]

00:19:18 ◼ ► like that was the year he broke out any [TS]

00:19:19 ◼ ► word a bazillion books after that but [TS]

00:19:22 ◼ ► never revisited this universe so if you [TS]

00:19:23 ◼ ► read it you have to content yourself at [TS]

00:19:26 ◼ ► some level with the fact that [TS]

00:19:27 ◼ ► this is it like he went here once and it [TS]

00:19:29 ◼ ► was great and then he moved on to other [TS]

00:19:31 ◼ ► things so the the premise is always [TS]

00:19:34 ◼ ► written a year before birth rate 1967 [TS]

00:19:36 ◼ ► one the next year for these words so the [TS]

00:19:38 ◼ ► premise is like those other books i [TS]

00:19:40 ◼ ► mentioned where I can I was kind of [TS]

00:19:42 ◼ ► enjoying the idea of looking at science [TS]

00:19:46 ◼ ► fiction through the lens of other [TS]

00:19:47 ◼ ► pathologies and so celestial matters for [TS]

00:19:50 ◼ ► instance it's the Greek and chinese and [TS]

00:19:53 ◼ ► so forth like every cultures philosophy [TS]

00:19:55 ◼ ► about how the world works pretty our [TS]

00:19:57 ◼ ► prior to Imperial empirical science is [TS]

00:20:00 ◼ ► actually literally true which is kind of [TS]

00:20:03 ◼ ► cool so in Lord of Light it's not quite [TS]

00:20:05 ◼ ► like that but it's appears to be a [TS]

00:20:07 ◼ ► planet in which a new gods are walking [TS]

00:20:10 ◼ ► around there's tons of them they seem to [TS]

00:20:12 ◼ ► have powers and as the book goes on i [TS]

00:20:14 ◼ ► feel like i shouldn't give away too much [TS]

00:20:16 ◼ ► because it's great revelation about you [TS]

00:20:18 ◼ ► he unclear lolz layer and layer and [TS]

00:20:22 ◼ ► layer away until you actually understand [TS]

00:20:25 ◼ ► quite how hard a sci-fi novel this is [TS]

00:20:28 ◼ ► compared to what you think it is when [TS]

00:20:29 ◼ ► you start and I think it must have been [TS]

00:20:32 ◼ ► an era when there was a really was a big [TS]

00:20:35 ◼ ► wall between fantasy and sci-fi and I [TS]

00:20:37 ◼ ► feel like this is partly an attempt to [TS]

00:20:39 ◼ ► not pierce the wall but there's a little [TS]

00:20:41 ◼ ► bit but sort of weave in some of the [TS]

00:20:43 ◼ ► things that are best about myth-making [TS]

00:20:45 ◼ ► and fantasy into the rocketship you know [TS]

00:20:49 ◼ ► super advanced science world and quite [TS]

00:20:54 ◼ ► quite lovely i'm so there are things [TS]

00:20:55 ◼ ► that are sort of very fantasy yes even [TS]

00:20:58 ◼ ► in the middle of hard science and vice [TS]

00:20:59 ◼ ► versa so yeah I guess I don't want it is [TS]

00:21:03 ◼ ► something I want to tell so much [TS]

00:21:04 ◼ ► there's two cool things about it i found [TS]

00:21:05 ◼ ► out just looking up the details one is [TS]

00:21:07 ◼ ► that george RR martin has an anecdote [TS]

00:21:10 ◼ ► about it so we gotta bring him and he [TS]

00:21:12 ◼ ► said apparently that last he told him [TS]

00:21:14 ◼ ► that he had a single pun in his head [TS]

00:21:18 ◼ ► that makes you think of the entire novel [TS]

00:21:19 ◼ ► The Punisher subscribe not gonna tell it [TS]

00:21:21 ◼ ► the other is that they were going to [TS]

00:21:23 ◼ ► make a huge huge super expensive motion [TS]

00:21:27 ◼ ► picture of this film [TS]

00:21:28 ◼ ► yeah in in right in the early nineties [TS]

00:21:31 ◼ ► people see the movie notice and then [TS]

00:21:32 ◼ ► Jack's army drew all over me right crazy [TS]

00:21:35 ◼ ► schedules and all that and it generally [TS]

00:21:36 ◼ ► this amazing they didn't get made and it [TS]

00:21:38 ◼ ► what is the right man that was the basis [TS]

00:21:41 ◼ ► they use this material CIA used it as [TS]

00:21:43 ◼ ► the cover for Argyle trading right Argo [TS]

00:21:47 ◼ ► Argo is drive directly from the Lord of [TS]

00:21:49 ◼ ► language p why wasnt percent but it's um [TS]

00:21:52 ◼ ► so the reason I liked it so much though [TS]

00:21:54 ◼ ► is it's it's a very clever in its own [TS]

00:21:58 ◼ ► way but it's not too smart for its own [TS]

00:21:59 ◼ ► good like there's a lot of history [TS]

00:22:02 ◼ ► Buddhism science fiction all crammed [TS]

00:22:07 ◼ ► into the thing but it's beautiful to [TS]

00:22:09 ◼ ► read and it's interesting and characters [TS]

00:22:12 ◼ ► are richly painted and his betrayal and [TS]

00:22:16 ◼ ► it's just you feel like he's packed 17 [TS]

00:22:18 ◼ ► books and one but it doesn't feel [TS]

00:22:20 ◼ ► overwritten it's just he packs the [TS]

00:22:21 ◼ ► passage of time in there really terrific [TS]

00:22:24 ◼ ► Lee and I guess the other part is that [TS]

00:22:26 ◼ ► it's hard to find a novel quite like [TS]

00:22:28 ◼ ► this i don't remember reading anything [TS]

00:22:29 ◼ ► else that really felt like this book to [TS]

00:22:33 ◼ ► me where the the way in which the [TS]

00:22:36 ◼ ► characters interact with each other I [TS]

00:22:37 ◼ ► the closest thing is now 105 anybody a [TS]

00:22:40 ◼ ► dance Simmons van or Danson's non-fan [TS]

00:22:43 ◼ ► foreshadowing so so there's a book not [TS]

00:22:49 ◼ ► the Hyperion cycle i read his other [TS]

00:22:51 ◼ ► cycle which is called ileum and ol [TS]

00:22:54 ◼ ► impose [TS]

00:22:55 ◼ ► yep i'm so glad i didn't choose those ok [TS]

00:22:57 ◼ ► I'm not today but I'm not gonna bring [TS]

00:22:58 ◼ ► that but I've read them both and i have [TS]

00:23:00 ◼ ► we can talk about the rest of the memory [TS]

00:23:01 ◼ ► of a person but I'm from there are [TS]

00:23:03 ◼ ► aspects that if the Hansen's must have [TS]

00:23:06 ◼ ► read Lord of Light he must have features [TS]

00:23:08 ◼ ► there are aspects that are extensions of [TS]

00:23:11 ◼ ► parallels of it and that's not to say [TS]

00:23:13 ◼ ► the ilium in the Olympics were not [TS]

00:23:14 ◼ ► original works but but you can feel it [TS]

00:23:17 ◼ ► so if you've read those books you have [TS]

00:23:18 ◼ ► to go read this and you just read it [TS]

00:23:20 ◼ ► anyway what I'm just wondering if I [TS]

00:23:22 ◼ ► should go back and read i hated Lord of [TS]

00:23:24 ◼ ► Light really do it he reportedly well if [TS]

00:23:26 ◼ ► they didn't have to love you want to [TS]

00:23:28 ◼ ► love things I love to do that but I i [TS]

00:23:30 ◼ ► like i like the den Simmons books and I [TS]

00:23:32 ◼ ► read Lord of Light when I was young and [TS]

00:23:34 ◼ ► stupid so I'm wondering if maybe i [TS]

00:23:36 ◼ ► should just revisit it but this is my [TS]

00:23:37 ◼ ► thing i think i read little as me when I [TS]

00:23:39 ◼ ► was like 12 or 13 and I was reading [TS]

00:23:41 ◼ ► azimoff I was really azimoff i say this [TS]

00:23:44 ◼ ► car horrible tone is up yeah you know [TS]

00:23:46 ◼ ► that guy as my fully wrote seven hundred [TS]

00:23:48 ◼ ► thousand books [TS]

00:23:49 ◼ ► actually I made him picked it picked an [TS]

00:23:51 ◼ ► episode 99 but yeah that's true i wanted [TS]

00:23:54 ◼ ► to pick the Foundation series again I do [TS]

00:23:56 ◼ ► yeah so you're always reading a small [TS]

00:23:57 ◼ ► that is the last day compared to azimoff [TS]

00:23:59 ◼ ► way to Z not intentional you'd say like [TS]

00:24:03 ◼ ► wow this guy doesn't know what he's [TS]

00:24:04 ◼ ► doing it so forward and what the hell [TS]

00:24:06 ◼ ► you don't know anything and now 30-plus [TS]

00:24:08 ◼ ► years later like I have an understanding [TS]

00:24:10 ◼ ► of mythology [TS]

00:24:11 ◼ ► I like the incredible rich layer [TS]

00:24:13 ◼ ► delusion that would have been [TS]

00:24:14 ◼ ► meaningless to me so I don't know I i [TS]

00:24:16 ◼ ► think i would not identify like i don't [TS]

00:24:18 ◼ ► think i read this one but i bet i read [TS]

00:24:20 ◼ ► the last me back then because I'm shot [TS]

00:24:21 ◼ ► away from you probably read the amber [TS]

00:24:23 ◼ ► chronicles remember that's what I was [TS]

00:24:24 ◼ ► yeah that was his most popular stop by [TS]

00:24:27 ◼ ► far i started with that and then went on [TS]

00:24:29 ◼ ► to Lord of Light was like oh this was [TS]

00:24:31 ◼ ► not a shame i don't like this at all [TS]

00:24:33 ◼ ► see and I'm a big Dan Simmons fan and I [TS]

00:24:37 ◼ ► actually read ileum and didn't pick up [TS]

00:24:40 ◼ ► and that's essentially one book split [TS]

00:24:41 ◼ ► into two volumes and I did you pick up [TS]

00:24:43 ◼ ► vol.2 I was like net now I just [TS]

00:24:46 ◼ ► completely you're completely like [TS]

00:24:47 ◼ ► killing myself I didn't didn't sit on [TS]

00:24:50 ◼ ► the completest certain level i really [TS]

00:24:51 ◼ ► like these parts of story one element as [TS]

00:24:53 ◼ ► extensions like oh ok [TS]

00:24:55 ◼ ► oh that's that conduct completed thing [TS]

00:24:57 ◼ ► is the worst i have read so many crappy [TS]

00:24:59 ◼ ► series all the way through [TS]

00:25:01 ◼ ► I think we did a podcast about that [TS]

00:25:02 ◼ ► least yes well i like what you guys are [TS]

00:25:04 ◼ ► talking about doing because i read you [TS]

00:25:05 ◼ ► know I've read like 14 do novels and i [TS]

00:25:07 ◼ ► will not read the other 300 you no good [TS]

00:25:09 ◼ ► you can we draw the line right there [TS]

00:25:11 ◼ ► should be getting good at 295 yeah yeah [TS]

00:25:15 ◼ ► yeah they get that's what they told me [TS]

00:25:17 ◼ ► about the oh they're gonna be so mad at [TS]

00:25:19 ◼ ► me when I say this about that the gym [TS]

00:25:20 ◼ ► butcher uh what's it called [TS]

00:25:23 ◼ ► Oh Harry drapery dressed and novels know [TS]

00:25:26 ◼ ► he got a reading for grilling everything [TS]

00:25:27 ◼ ► the great not really honest when I said [TS]

00:25:29 ◼ ► it's not that great me said no no it [TS]

00:25:30 ◼ ► gets better I'm like I don't know if I [TS]

00:25:32 ◼ ► believe you know as you said they were [TS]

00:25:34 ◼ ► great numbers one good so yeah yeah same [TS]

00:25:38 ◼ ► people people confuse that people [TS]

00:25:40 ◼ ► confuse the cumulative satisfaction and [TS]

00:25:42 ◼ ► and cross in the thrill of making [TS]

00:25:43 ◼ ► connection between different books that [TS]

00:25:45 ◼ ► that whole haha i know something about [TS]

00:25:47 ◼ ► this whole series with the thrill of [TS]

00:25:48 ◼ ► picking up the book for the first time [TS]

00:25:49 ◼ ► getting sucked into the world or maybe [TS]

00:25:51 ◼ ► there's some amortization is like the [TS]

00:25:53 ◼ ► more people who read this the less less [TS]

00:25:55 ◼ ► painful it'll be for any individual one [TS]

00:25:57 ◼ ► tonight haha [TS]

00:25:58 ◼ ► oh no my speedo psychic anguish of you [TS]

00:26:01 ◼ ► reading a book book vampire series book [TS]

00:26:03 ◼ ► vampires is what we're talking about [TS]

00:26:05 ◼ ► okay so I'm gonna go because I always [TS]

00:26:07 ◼ ► the last night Jason and we were just by [TS]

00:26:09 ◼ ► this black asses over [TS]

00:26:10 ◼ ► no we were just talking about Dan [TS]

00:26:13 ◼ ► Simmons and believe it or not that [TS]

00:26:15 ◼ ► actually is what i am picking up picking [TS]

00:26:17 ◼ ► a dance in trouble [TS]

00:26:18 ◼ ► dan simmons is well known for his wife I [TS]

00:26:21 ◼ ► we talked about the hyperion books [TS]

00:26:23 ◼ ► before we just mentioned ilium he's got [TS]

00:26:26 ◼ ► something he's really kind of a genre [TS]

00:26:28 ◼ ► krauser he's got some horror books that [TS]

00:26:31 ◼ ► he's written in some fantasy and so of [TS]

00:26:34 ◼ ► course i'm going to pick his one [TS]

00:26:36 ◼ ► completely mainstream non jon renau [TS]

00:26:38 ◼ ► novel which is called phases of gravity [TS]

00:26:41 ◼ ► i mentioned before it is okay it is one [TS]

00:26:43 ◼ ► of my favorite books of all time [TS]

00:26:45 ◼ ► it's about an astronaut who it's it's [TS]

00:26:49 ◼ ► set in the eighties I think was written [TS]

00:26:50 ◼ ► in the eighties who loses loses a people [TS]

00:26:54 ◼ ► close to him in the Challenger disaster [TS]

00:26:56 ◼ ► he is rethinking his life there there [TS]

00:27:02 ◼ ► are hints of of that this might be more [TS]

00:27:06 ◼ ► of a John ristori at and but really it's [TS]

00:27:10 ◼ ► not in the end not to give too much away [TS]

00:27:12 ◼ ► I mean it really is a story about this [TS]

00:27:14 ◼ ► guy trying to think about his life he he [TS]

00:27:17 ◼ ► you know he was an astronaut he's been [TS]

00:27:19 ◼ ► in space I think he walked on the moon [TS]

00:27:20 ◼ ► but he's retired he's lost these people [TS]

00:27:23 ◼ ► and he's really wondering what the point [TS]

00:27:26 ◼ ► of his entire life is and it's a it's a [TS]

00:27:28 ◼ ► beautiful story I mean I hate to say [TS]

00:27:31 ◼ ► it's a beautiful tale of love and loss [TS]

00:27:33 ◼ ► but you know that that's the Sun that's [TS]

00:27:37 ◼ ► the summary on Goodreads and you know [TS]

00:27:38 ◼ ► that's what it is it is that and um and [TS]

00:27:41 ◼ ► I try to read this every you know every [TS]

00:27:43 ◼ ► 15 years or something like that i'm not [TS]

00:27:45 ◼ ► a big reader books but I I find it kinda [TS]

00:27:48 ◼ ► beautiful and I also he's a really good [TS]

00:27:50 ◼ ► writer and I found this this novel you [TS]

00:27:55 ◼ ► know it's appealing because of the [TS]

00:27:57 ◼ ► writing and and I also felt like it was [TS]

00:27:59 ◼ ► personally significant to Dan Simmons in [TS]

00:28:01 ◼ ► some way that he was he was talking [TS]

00:28:03 ◼ ► about some themes that maybe he felt [TS]

00:28:05 ◼ ► like he didn't want to wrap around a [TS]

00:28:08 ◼ ► horror novel or a sci-fi novel [TS]

00:28:11 ◼ ► and and yet because it's about [TS]

00:28:13 ◼ ► astronauts and people who died in space [TS]

00:28:15 ◼ ► shuttle explosion and things like that [TS]

00:28:17 ◼ ► it has a lot of elements that will be [TS]

00:28:19 ◼ ► very familiar to readers of sci-fi [TS]

00:28:22 ◼ ► especially and people who are so big [TS]

00:28:24 ◼ ► science nerds and and I'm I'm those [TS]

00:28:26 ◼ ► people so those people so it works for [TS]

00:28:30 ◼ ► me on that level even though i did it [TS]

00:28:31 ◼ ► you know it is not it's not what it I [TS]

00:28:35 ◼ ► think anyone should call a sci-fi novel [TS]

00:28:36 ◼ ► it really is just sort of a mainstream [TS]

00:28:37 ◼ ► novel and it's beautiful and i love it a [TS]

00:28:39 ◼ ► lot and I i encourage people to read it [TS]

00:28:41 ◼ ► it's not really well known at all it's [TS]

00:28:42 ◼ ► probably the oddball of his entire [TS]

00:28:44 ◼ ► output as a novelist and it is it is my [TS]

00:28:49 ◼ ► favorite I do love Hyperion quite a lot [TS]

00:28:51 ◼ ► but faces of gravity is my favorite [TS]

00:28:54 ◼ ► dance Simmons novel i'm so glad you [TS]

00:28:55 ◼ ► recommended one because I vowed to never [TS]

00:28:57 ◼ ► read it again but your recommendation so [TS]

00:28:58 ◼ ► strong i will read it [TS]

00:29:00 ◼ ► hyperion i think is one of the best [TS]

00:29:01 ◼ ► science fiction novels ever written any [TS]

00:29:04 ◼ ► angers me so much everything else he's [TS]

00:29:06 ◼ ► written so i may have to go read that to [TS]

00:29:08 ◼ ► try to get the taste of fall arrives [TS]

00:29:10 ◼ ► Endymion out of my mouth haha but you [TS]

00:29:15 ◼ ► also wrote a historical thriller [TS]

00:29:18 ◼ ► oh yes drewd which I enjoyed greatly [TS]

00:29:21 ◼ ► isn't it features a Charles Dickens and [TS]

00:29:25 ◼ ► wilkie collins who is the author of the [TS]

00:29:27 ◼ ► first of many consider the first mystery [TS]

00:29:30 ◼ ► novel as an unreliable narrator and it's [TS]

00:29:33 ◼ ► quite good i also like his the creek [TS]

00:29:37 ◼ ► factory which is about the it's it's [TS]

00:29:40 ◼ ► loosely based on the spy ring that [TS]

00:29:41 ◼ ► Ernest Hemingway set up when he was [TS]

00:29:43 ◼ ► living in Cuba totally different from [TS]

00:29:46 ◼ ► everything else again so dances just [TS]

00:29:48 ◼ ► turns out like he's gotta dial he spins [TS]

00:29:51 ◼ ► the wheel and then the something stick [TS]

00:29:53 ◼ ► that's pretty amazing [TS]

00:29:54 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah let's take a moment away [TS]

00:29:57 ◼ ► from reading to talk about more reading [TS]

00:29:59 ◼ ► and it is our sponsor this episode brain [TS]

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00:30:17 ◼ ► Lex thanks for being in the commercial [TS]

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00:30:21 ◼ ► this commercial couldn't show up for the [TS]

00:30:23 ◼ ► actual episode could [TS]

00:30:24 ◼ ► you know is after my bedtime when you [TS]

00:30:25 ◼ ► today I know the book Bob you were [TS]

00:30:28 ◼ ► telling me about this that this is a [TS]

00:30:29 ◼ ► this is a way to discover books that you [TS]

00:30:31 ◼ ► love and you get a deal on ebooks to [TS]

00:30:33 ◼ ► write what's what's great about book [TS]

00:30:35 ◼ ► club is we know I research them when [TS]

00:30:37 ◼ ► they came to me and said hey we want to [TS]

00:30:38 ◼ ► sponsor some podcasts and then before I [TS]

00:30:40 ◼ ► ever sold the many podcast ads like this [TS]

00:30:42 ◼ ► very ad i became a customer and used it [TS]

00:30:45 ◼ ► literally every day since i first [TS]

00:30:47 ◼ ► discovered it so the way it works is [TS]

00:30:48 ◼ ► they send you it they send you emails [TS]

00:30:50 ◼ ► with alerts about like free and bargain [TS]

00:30:53 ◼ ► ebooks that that are that you might be [TS]

00:30:55 ◼ ► interested in right you tell them a what [TS]

00:30:58 ◼ ► kind of books you like and be what kind [TS]

00:31:00 ◼ ► of readers you have so for me it's like [TS]

00:31:01 ◼ ► I have Kendall and I have I books and so [TS]

00:31:04 ◼ ► each day seven days a week I get an [TS]

00:31:06 ◼ ► email from them with new cheap books new [TS]

00:31:08 ◼ ► discounts on books or free books in the [TS]

00:31:11 ◼ ► categories i selected for the devices [TS]

00:31:12 ◼ ► I've selected and I i buy them everyday [TS]

00:31:14 ◼ ► is the only daily email get that I [TS]

00:31:16 ◼ ► intentionally read every day and look [TS]

00:31:18 ◼ ► forward to and click and i bought i [TS]

00:31:20 ◼ ► don't know 30 books in the past three [TS]

00:31:22 ◼ ► weeks thanks to them [TS]

00:31:23 ◼ ► be wary they will actually find books [TS]

00:31:25 ◼ ► that you're interested in that are on [TS]

00:31:27 ◼ ► sale and you'll be buying more bucks if [TS]

00:31:30 ◼ ► you if you sign up for book club [TS]

00:31:31 ◼ ► I'll tell you one that I'm reading right [TS]

00:31:33 ◼ ► now I told you I didn't have a book [TS]

00:31:34 ◼ ► recommendation but now i do from slap [TS]

00:31:36 ◼ ► this is the perfect time to share that [TS]

00:31:38 ◼ ► perfect episode likes they sent me a [TS]

00:31:40 ◼ ► thing they said you you might like this [TS]

00:31:41 ◼ ► book the accidental bachelor and I like [TS]

00:31:43 ◼ ► humorist sort of first-person novels and [TS]

00:31:46 ◼ ► this is that it's you know this guy Finn [TS]

00:31:48 ◼ ► McAllister whose little down-on-his-luck [TS]

00:31:51 ◼ ► and is kind of reeling his best friends [TS]

00:31:53 ◼ ► are still his old friends from high [TS]

00:31:54 ◼ ► school even though he's in his thirties [TS]

00:31:56 ◼ ► now but it's a very funny book even [TS]

00:31:57 ◼ ► though it's also an emotional book and I [TS]

00:31:58 ◼ ► i paid i don't know two dollars for [TS]

00:32:00 ◼ ► something because book told me the day [TS]

00:32:02 ◼ ► was on sale and this isn't stuff that's [TS]

00:32:04 ◼ ► just coming from like random random [TS]

00:32:06 ◼ ► shady book download stores this is like [TS]

00:32:09 ◼ ► this book is on sale at amazon or this [TS]

00:32:11 ◼ ► book is on sale and I books and and [TS]

00:32:13 ◼ ► things like that right yeah exactly and [TS]

00:32:15 ◼ ► it's it's you know sometimes its [TS]

00:32:17 ◼ ► self-published authors but it's also one [TS]

00:32:19 ◼ ► hundred percent mainstream books with [TS]

00:32:21 ◼ ► actual publishers and authors who've [TS]

00:32:22 ◼ ► heard of in new york times bestsellers [TS]

00:32:24 ◼ ► and things it's just whatever they find [TS]

00:32:26 ◼ ► this on sale in the topics and in the [TS]

00:32:28 ◼ ► stores that you have indicated you want [TS]

00:32:30 ◼ ► that's what this engine is pretty great [TS]

00:32:31 ◼ ► all right let's you gotta break it to me [TS]

00:32:33 ◼ ► now what does bookbub cost [TS]

00:32:34 ◼ ► ok [TS]

00:32:35 ◼ ► how much would you pay ten dollars a [TS]

00:32:38 ◼ ► hundred-thousand-dollar personalized [TS]

00:32:40 ◼ ► recommendations service that everyday [TS]

00:32:41 ◼ ► tells me what books i'm gonna like are [TS]

00:32:45 ◼ ► available as ebooks for free or for [TS]

00:32:47 ◼ ► cheap [TS]

00:32:48 ◼ ► i I don't know a million dollars well [TS]

00:32:50 ◼ ► guess what it's free it's free to sign [TS]

00:32:52 ◼ ► up free yet you pay for the books [TS]

00:32:54 ◼ ► obviously that's their business model [TS]

00:32:56 ◼ ► they make a tiny little bit of money on [TS]

00:32:57 ◼ ► the books by through their affiliate [TS]

00:32:59 ◼ ► links so probably pretty brilliant model [TS]

00:33:01 ◼ ► so you just put in your email address at [TS]

00:33:02 ◼ ► bookbub dot-com slashing comfortable by [TS]

00:33:05 ◼ ► the way would really be really nice and [TS]

00:33:07 ◼ ► that's it you sign up and they start [TS]

00:33:09 ◼ ► sending you to check the boxes and you [TS]

00:33:11 ◼ ► say i'm interested in science fiction or [TS]

00:33:12 ◼ ► I'm interested in humor i'm interested [TS]

00:33:14 ◼ ► in horror fantasy and I've got like you [TS]

00:33:17 ◼ ► said I've got a I books and kindle or or [TS]

00:33:20 ◼ ► or whatever be book readers you've got [TS]

00:33:22 ◼ ► you press the button and that's it right [TS]

00:33:24 ◼ ► yeah that's exactly you know according [TS]

00:33:25 ◼ ► to the book club they've got like two [TS]

00:33:27 ◼ ► million people i I've never even heard [TS]

00:33:28 ◼ ► of this before and it sounds it sounds [TS]

00:33:30 ◼ ► great but they've got two million [TS]

00:33:31 ◼ ► subscribers and have already sold 25 [TS]

00:33:35 ◼ ► million ebooks it's kind of amazing so [TS]

00:33:36 ◼ ► obviously with this works [TS]

00:33:38 ◼ ► I can't believe how many you know books [TS]

00:33:40 ◼ ► I bought from and I never expected my [TS]

00:33:42 ◼ ► book every day that it happens but it's [TS]

00:33:43 ◼ ► like well I mean I just sounds good for [TS]

00:33:45 ◼ ► a dollar it's worth the risk for two [TS]

00:33:46 ◼ ► dollars worth the risk for so basically [TS]

00:33:48 ◼ ► out of these 25 million ebook downloads [TS]

00:33:50 ◼ ► you're like 20 million yeah and i will [TS]

00:33:52 ◼ ► say i have read the three books that i [TS]

00:33:54 ◼ ► bought from them and i'm about to finish [TS]

00:33:55 ◼ ► up another one and I have enjoyed them [TS]

00:33:57 ◼ ► all so that's pretty good [TS]

00:33:59 ◼ ► that's pretty awesome i'm looking [TS]

00:34:00 ◼ ► forward to getting my book club email [TS]

00:34:02 ◼ ► tomorrow [TS]

00:34:03 ◼ ► what's your url again book club com [TS]

00:34:05 ◼ ► that's bo-o-o-o-k bu be like it [TS]

00:34:07 ◼ ► Wolverine we're talking to you need say [TS]

00:34:09 ◼ ► i'm reading a book club that's exactly [TS]

00:34:11 ◼ ► where you want to go / incomparable [TS]

00:34:14 ◼ ► bookbub calm / and comfortable to sign [TS]

00:34:16 ◼ ► up it's free and you will be a satisfied [TS]

00:34:19 ◼ ► customer like Lex here and get lots of [TS]

00:34:21 ◼ ► books on sale or for free that are that [TS]

00:34:24 ◼ ► you're interested in which is what it's [TS]

00:34:26 ◼ ► awesome idea great idea thanks book club [TS]

00:34:28 ◼ ► Thank You book club for sponsoring the [TS]

00:34:30 ◼ ► incomparable thank you Lex for making a [TS]

00:34:32 ◼ ► suggestion right in the middle of this [TS]

00:34:34 ◼ ► the ad and for dropping in through magic [TS]

00:34:36 ◼ ► of podcast time-warping to be to be on [TS]

00:34:39 ◼ ► the podcast always a pleasure i can't [TS]

00:34:41 ◼ ► believe you're doing this at waking hour [TS]

00:34:42 ◼ ► for me just for you [TS]

00:34:43 ◼ ► alright let's go back to the people who [TS]

00:34:45 ◼ ► are the night owls and thanks again to [TS]

00:34:47 ◼ ► book club and lex [TS]

00:34:48 ◼ ► alright that's one round through will do [TS]

00:34:50 ◼ ► it a couple more times so let's go back [TS]

00:34:51 ◼ ► up to the top of the list is also the [TS]

00:34:53 ◼ ► only person on this podcast tonight [TS]

00:34:55 ◼ ► whose name is not five letters long [TS]

00:34:57 ◼ ► Lisa I could add an extra vowels or help [TS]

00:35:03 ◼ ► Leo Sosa you make a le esa the only look [TS]

00:35:08 ◼ ► like entertainment tonight is that [TS]

00:35:13 ◼ ► always bugged me growing up or Zed as [TS]

00:35:15 ◼ ► they say in Canada does that mean dr. [TS]

00:35:18 ◼ ► Canada you know [TS]

00:35:19 ◼ ► okay go ahead Lisa my second pick axe [TS]

00:35:21 ◼ ► but in the spirit of unhinged lunacy is [TS]

00:35:25 ◼ ► Neil stiff is Israel Steffensen zodiac [TS]

00:35:27 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah because it's possible it [TS]

00:35:30 ◼ ► predates it predates that the books that [TS]

00:35:32 ◼ ► put him on the map snow crash in the [TS]

00:35:34 ◼ ► diamond age and the way he describes it [TS]

00:35:37 ◼ ► as an eco-terrorist thriller and uh it [TS]

00:35:41 ◼ ► it feels very of its time because it was [TS]

00:35:44 ◼ ► written during the nineteen eighties the [TS]

00:35:45 ◼ ► internet isn't really a factor it's just [TS]

00:35:47 ◼ ► this very smart very misanthropic genius [TS]

00:35:49 ◼ ► organic chemist named Sam on taylor who [TS]

00:35:52 ◼ ► simply wants to clean up the Boston [TS]

00:35:55 ◼ ► Harbor and he works with a Greenpeace [TS]

00:35:57 ◼ ► like group and over the course of the [TS]

00:36:00 ◼ ► investigation he's trying to work where [TS]

00:36:02 ◼ ► he's trying to get polluters to quit [TS]

00:36:04 ◼ ► dumping heavy metals into the harbor [TS]

00:36:06 ◼ ► they run across like a death metal cult [TS]

00:36:08 ◼ ► um there's a long digression on the [TS]

00:36:11 ◼ ► merits of vietnamese food or as we call [TS]

00:36:14 ◼ ► it a neal stephenson novel that what now [TS]

00:36:17 ◼ ► integration no well I don't make sure [TS]

00:36:19 ◼ ► you really but it makes you really [TS]

00:36:20 ◼ ► appreciate the differences between [TS]

00:36:21 ◼ ► different types of you know South South [TS]

00:36:24 ◼ ► Asian cuisines sure it's just funny that [TS]

00:36:27 ◼ ► he always has the energy is fantastic [TS]

00:36:29 ◼ ► it's kind of lunatic and unhinged and [TS]

00:36:31 ◼ ► again it's a really fast read so if you [TS]

00:36:33 ◼ ► don't have the time and/or the biceps to [TS]

00:36:35 ◼ ► haul around some of his later work [TS]

00:36:38 ◼ ► this is the kind of thing you can pick [TS]

00:36:39 ◼ ► up and easily get through and like a day [TS]

00:36:41 ◼ ► or two [TS]

00:36:41 ◼ ► it's great i I've read into it is it is [TS]

00:36:44 ◼ ► a huge fun and and I love his [TS]

00:36:46 ◼ ► relationship with the elderly library [TS]

00:36:47 ◼ ► and we're in order to get any [TS]

00:36:48 ◼ ► information he has to listen to her [TS]

00:36:50 ◼ ► conversation first and and she's always [TS]

00:36:52 ◼ ► talking about like going shopping for [TS]

00:36:54 ◼ ► her granddaughter's christening dresses [TS]

00:36:55 ◼ ► or other things like that is just what i [TS]

00:36:58 ◼ ► like about staying on Taylor's a [TS]

00:36:59 ◼ ► character is his fundamental respect for [TS]

00:37:02 ◼ ► people who know what they're doing and [TS]

00:37:03 ◼ ► do it well because that's something that [TS]

00:37:06 ◼ ► I find a little off-putting about and I [TS]

00:37:08 ◼ ► don't think it's in his work [TS]

00:37:09 ◼ ► specifically but i find it off-putting [TS]

00:37:10 ◼ ► and hacker culture type stuff in general [TS]

00:37:12 ◼ ► is there tends to be the very left brain [TS]

00:37:14 ◼ ► right brain divided in a clear hierarchy [TS]

00:37:16 ◼ ► of people who are useful vs people who [TS]

00:37:18 ◼ ► are not and all through this book he has [TS]

00:37:20 ◼ ► a really clear it's clear saying aman [TS]

00:37:22 ◼ ► respect people who who know their stuff [TS]

00:37:25 ◼ ► and I I like a character who could who's [TS]

00:37:28 ◼ ► smart and is not threatened by other [TS]

00:37:29 ◼ ► people smarter home but see I think it's [TS]

00:37:31 ◼ ► a good thing the model so yeah [TS]

00:37:34 ◼ ► also it's super funny yes it's hilarious [TS]

00:37:37 ◼ ► it's laugh-out-loud funny just going to [TS]

00:37:39 ◼ ► you [TS]

00:37:39 ◼ ► yeah that the weather where I forget the [TS]

00:37:41 ◼ ► name of the organization's on the fourth [TS]

00:37:42 ◼ ► floor he's got the storyline about how [TS]

00:37:44 ◼ ► they have bumper stickers on the stair [TS]

00:37:45 ◼ ► riser so that by the time you get to the [TS]

00:37:46 ◼ ► office you're both out of breath and [TS]

00:37:47 ◼ ► thoroughly indoctrinated and it was just [TS]

00:37:50 ◼ ► this beautiful it's just like he's got [TS]

00:37:52 ◼ ► an entire chapter devoted to commuting [TS]

00:37:54 ◼ ► in boston on my bike that has to be read [TS]

00:37:57 ◼ ► to be believed and if you've ever been [TS]

00:37:59 ◼ ► to boston or try driving in that you're [TS]

00:38:00 ◼ ► like always the doctor later yeah yeah i [TS]

00:38:03 ◼ ► think if i have a theme for tonight's [TS]

00:38:04 ◼ ► books it's gateways to the author where [TS]

00:38:06 ◼ ► were these are the types of things are [TS]

00:38:08 ◼ ► you dip your toes in and you're like [TS]

00:38:09 ◼ ► okay I like this guy and then you can [TS]

00:38:11 ◼ ► and then you can get more into their [TS]

00:38:12 ◼ ► work and they may not be the best known [TS]

00:38:14 ◼ ► thing these people have done but i think [TS]

00:38:15 ◼ ► that the most accessible to the people [TS]

00:38:18 ◼ ► who haven't read them yet and i highly [TS]

00:38:19 ◼ ► recommend zodiac for anybody who I don't [TS]

00:38:23 ◼ ► like fantasy or aromatic sapphire and [TS]

00:38:25 ◼ ► like tech stuff because this isn't about [TS]

00:38:27 ◼ ► that this is simply about a guy trying [TS]

00:38:28 ◼ ► to do his job [TS]

00:38:29 ◼ ► how many of those people are listening [TS]

00:38:31 ◼ ► to this podcast although Kari I have [TS]

00:38:33 ◼ ► some for I have some friends who looks [TS]

00:38:35 ◼ ► okay [TS]

00:38:35 ◼ ► they should all listen because they know [TS]

00:38:37 ◼ ► what to do I don't know to learn [TS]

00:38:39 ◼ ► something put it on their beginning put [TS]

00:38:40 ◼ ► in their stocking that's what we're [TS]

00:38:41 ◼ ► saying put it in their styling just slip [TS]

00:38:43 ◼ ► in their stuff and be like what is this [TS]

00:38:45 ◼ ► book is it astrology related in some way [TS]

00:38:48 ◼ ► you could happen as I love that stuff i [TS]

00:38:51 ◼ ► have some blending but i'll save it for [TS]

00:38:53 ◼ ► my turn [TS]

00:38:53 ◼ ► okay well as you should look into any no [TS]

00:38:56 ◼ ► Glenn I never stretched anticipated no [TS]

00:38:59 ◼ ► grading policy sony has part of his [TS]

00:39:00 ◼ ► earlier work so it's before he was so [TS]

00:39:02 ◼ ► famous that they couldn't cut anything [TS]

00:39:04 ◼ ► out of his books yeah it's less than 800 [TS]

00:39:06 ◼ ► pages long yeah it has an ending [TS]

00:39:08 ◼ ► everything it's it's it's fast and funny [TS]

00:39:11 ◼ ► and smart and it has a clear moral point [TS]

00:39:14 ◼ ► of view and [TS]

00:39:15 ◼ ► and yes yeah and attending yes yes good [TS]

00:39:19 ◼ ► zodiac that good book [TS]

00:39:21 ◼ ► David you're up well couple years ago I [TS]

00:39:23 ◼ ► wrote he play about Vincent van Gogh and [TS]

00:39:25 ◼ ► ever since [TS]

00:39:27 ◼ ► ah yeah you see the foreshadowing pay [TS]

00:39:29 ◼ ► you recommending we read your play not [TS]

00:39:32 ◼ ► haha watching now available no no [TS]

00:39:35 ◼ ► soon-to-be kick-started know but yeah as [TS]

00:39:39 ◼ ► a result i pick up books and things [TS]

00:39:42 ◼ ► about Van Gogh now because I have all [TS]

00:39:44 ◼ ► this knowledge stuck in my head and it's [TS]

00:39:46 ◼ ► interesting and I go oh wow they got [TS]

00:39:48 ◼ ► that right they got the wrong like when [TS]

00:39:49 ◼ ► I watched in sending the doctor and [TS]

00:39:51 ◼ ► going oh wow you could have done this [TS]

00:39:53 ◼ ► really like true-to-life but you screwed [TS]

00:39:56 ◼ ► that up but that's okay because it's dr. [TS]

00:39:58 ◼ ► fun and this is a book and I love doctor [TS]

00:40:02 ◼ ► just saying this book by christopher [TS]

00:40:06 ◼ ► moore is the maybe the one that Lisa did [TS]

00:40:09 ◼ ► not mention his most recent novel called [TS]

00:40:11 ◼ ► sacrifice clear yes a comedy data to and [TS]

00:40:17 ◼ ► there's a theory in its in the most [TS]

00:40:21 ◼ ► recent gigantic van Gogh biography which [TS]

00:40:24 ◼ ► is actually very good [TS]

00:40:25 ◼ ► there's a theory that he did not commit [TS]

00:40:27 ◼ ► suicide that he was murdered and the [TS]

00:40:30 ◼ ► authors of the biography go into really [TS]

00:40:32 ◼ ► interesting detail you go well alright [TS]

00:40:35 ◼ ► that's not implausible and lo and behold [TS]

00:40:38 ◼ ► just after that came out came Sacrebleu [TS]

00:40:40 ◼ ► where the idea is that Vincent's friends [TS]

00:40:44 ◼ ► a baker turned painter and another [TS]

00:40:47 ◼ ► friend of his toulouse-lautrec basically [TS]

00:40:50 ◼ ► act as holmes and watson to solvang goes [TS]

00:40:53 ◼ ► murder because he talks about having [TS]

00:40:55 ◼ ► been pressed pursued around france by a [TS]

00:40:58 ◼ ► crooked little color man and he has [TS]

00:41:01 ◼ ► become deathly afraid of a a certain [TS]

00:41:03 ◼ ► shade of blue a sacred blue and it's [TS]

00:41:07 ◼ ► just nuts in that way that christopher [TS]

00:41:09 ◼ ► moore can be but again it's you know [TS]

00:41:12 ◼ ► it's like fool it's a much more mature [TS]

00:41:13 ◼ ► much more assured novel he's sort of [TS]

00:41:16 ◼ ► weaving in all of this [TS]

00:41:19 ◼ ► real-life detail and he does an [TS]

00:41:23 ◼ ► excellent job documenting like he has a [TS]

00:41:26 ◼ ► blog just for this book it's filled in [TS]

00:41:29 ◼ ► the book and the blog or both filled [TS]

00:41:30 ◼ ► with pictures and filled with here's [TS]

00:41:32 ◼ ► where this incident came from here's [TS]

00:41:34 ◼ ► where this is set [TS]

00:41:35 ◼ ► here's where this idea came from and [TS]

00:41:38 ◼ ► he's just woven it all together in this [TS]

00:41:40 ◼ ► really funny really good thriller but [TS]

00:41:44 ◼ ► really funny [TS]

00:41:45 ◼ ► sacre bleu alright well to from Chris [TS]

00:41:48 ◼ ► Christopher more to from the guy whose [TS]

00:41:50 ◼ ► is whose name I could never even recall [TS]

00:41:52 ◼ ► so wow big changes afoot [TS]

00:41:56 ◼ ► let's move on to Erica what do you have [TS]

00:41:58 ◼ ► I have [TS]

00:42:00 ◼ ► okay well I don't have a series exactly [TS]

00:42:03 ◼ ► it was really hard for me to just pick [TS]

00:42:06 ◼ ► three books because there are very few [TS]

00:42:07 ◼ ► standalone books that I even read much [TS]

00:42:09 ◼ ► alone let alone like a lot so what i did [TS]

00:42:13 ◼ ► was i I picked a series and then pick [TS]

00:42:16 ◼ ► the first book in the series and I [TS]

00:42:18 ◼ ► figure that's a good thing to start with [TS]

00:42:19 ◼ ► and then if if you don't like that book [TS]

00:42:21 ◼ ► then don't read the rest of the series [TS]

00:42:22 ◼ ► but if you do then you've got some other [TS]

00:42:23 ◼ ► awesome books in front of you and how [TS]

00:42:25 ◼ ► great is that so [TS]

00:42:28 ◼ ► Robin hobb is one of my favorite fantasy [TS]

00:42:30 ◼ ► authors of the last several decades and [TS]

00:42:33 ◼ ► she's actually written a series of [TS]

00:42:36 ◼ ► trilogies i guess but the book that I [TS]

00:42:39 ◼ ► want to talk about is the first book of [TS]

00:42:42 ◼ ► the second trilogy that takes place that [TS]

00:42:44 ◼ ► sort of in this same world the book i'm [TS]

00:42:47 ◼ ► talking about is ship of magic and it is [TS]

00:42:51 ◼ ► really really cool [TS]

00:42:52 ◼ ► it's the first book of the live ship [TS]

00:42:54 ◼ ► traders trilogy that's the second [TS]

00:42:56 ◼ ► trilogy as i mentioned and it follows [TS]

00:42:58 ◼ ► the divestment family of being town and [TS]

00:43:02 ◼ ► this vested family owns a live ship in a [TS]

00:43:05 ◼ ► live ship is a ship that's made of this [TS]

00:43:07 ◼ ► magical wizard would and once three [TS]

00:43:10 ◼ ► generations of family captains have died [TS]

00:43:12 ◼ ► onboard the ship the figurehead actually [TS]

00:43:14 ◼ ► comes to life and has a personality and [TS]

00:43:16 ◼ ► toxin stuff and it's just very magical [TS]

00:43:19 ◼ ► and cool and only live ships in this [TS]

00:43:21 ◼ ► world can travel up the rain wild river [TS]

00:43:24 ◼ ► to trade with the mysterious rain wild [TS]

00:43:26 ◼ ► families who trade fabulous and magical [TS]

00:43:29 ◼ ► goods that you can't find anywhere else [TS]

00:43:31 ◼ ► so [TS]

00:43:32 ◼ ► that's sort of setting the stage that's [TS]

00:43:34 ◼ ► that's where in the world in which this [TS]

00:43:36 ◼ ► takes place but there are really two [TS]

00:43:38 ◼ ► stories that are taking place throughout [TS]

00:43:39 ◼ ► the book kind of in parallel so one [TS]

00:43:42 ◼ ► story is following the best rate family [TS]

00:43:44 ◼ ► the old captain is dying at the [TS]

00:43:47 ◼ ► beginning of the book and his daughter [TS]

00:43:48 ◼ ► Althea is is fairly young but she thinks [TS]

00:43:51 ◼ ► she's going to inherit the ship because [TS]

00:43:52 ◼ ► she's been sailing on it since she was a [TS]

00:43:54 ◼ ► youngster and is very connected and [TS]

00:43:56 ◼ ► bonded with this live ship but of course [TS]

00:43:59 ◼ ► things don't turn out quite as she [TS]

00:44:00 ◼ ► planned things can go awry for her from [TS]

00:44:04 ◼ ► there and it's sort of follows her her [TS]

00:44:06 ◼ ► journey and also a little bit of the [TS]

00:44:08 ◼ ► what happens with her family as she [TS]

00:44:10 ◼ ► works to get her life ship back but at [TS]

00:44:13 ◼ ► the same time there's also another [TS]

00:44:14 ◼ ► parallel story that seems completely [TS]

00:44:16 ◼ ► unconnected there's a pirate captain [TS]

00:44:19 ◼ ► named candidate who is looting pillaging [TS]

00:44:22 ◼ ► left and right but he wants to capture a [TS]

00:44:24 ◼ ► live ship for himself and he's kind of a [TS]

00:44:28 ◼ ► terrible character but accidentally does [TS]

00:44:30 ◼ ► some good things sort of a know we hurt [TS]

00:44:34 ◼ ► if it's kind of an interesting thing [TS]

00:44:36 ◼ ► everybody the people that follow him [TS]

00:44:38 ◼ ► begin thinking that he's this wonderful [TS]

00:44:40 ◼ ► character but really he's just doing [TS]

00:44:42 ◼ ► everything selfishly for himself but [TS]

00:44:44 ◼ ► accidents make it look like he's this [TS]

00:44:46 ◼ ► wonderful fellow so i want to say too [TS]

00:44:49 ◼ ► much more about it than that [TS]

00:44:50 ◼ ► honestly I don't usually date books [TS]

00:44:52 ◼ ► about pirates I'm not a good pirate [TS]

00:44:55 ◼ ► thing and I don't think clearly and I [TS]

00:44:58 ◼ ► don't forget our really like like [TS]

00:45:00 ◼ ► politics which comes into things later [TS]

00:45:02 ◼ ► in the trilogy there are some but some [TS]

00:45:04 ◼ ► very interesting sort of political [TS]

00:45:05 ◼ ► machinations in this this town in some [TS]

00:45:08 ◼ ► of the country's pirate politics [TS]

00:45:10 ◼ ► yeah there are pirate politics in here [TS]

00:45:12 ◼ ► and those are two things I just don't [TS]

00:45:14 ◼ ► usually like think that the whole point [TS]

00:45:16 ◼ ► of being pirates would be that you [TS]

00:45:18 ◼ ► reacted but it is it is a very good book [TS]

00:45:22 ◼ ► I i like this particular trilogy of them [TS]

00:45:25 ◼ ► the best is that the first trilogy is [TS]

00:45:27 ◼ ► the Farseer trilogy and then there's [TS]

00:45:29 ◼ ► another one after this one which is I [TS]

00:45:31 ◼ ► think the tiny man trilogy and then she [TS]

00:45:33 ◼ ► actually just recently wrote a tetralogy [TS]

00:45:35 ◼ ► which i haven't yet right but i got it [TS]

00:45:37 ◼ ► for Christmas early so i'm going to be [TS]

00:45:39 ◼ ► getting to that but so far this the [TS]

00:45:41 ◼ ► series of books that take place in the [TS]

00:45:43 ◼ ► the big town area [TS]

00:45:45 ◼ ► out-of-this-world I think the warmest of [TS]

00:45:48 ◼ ► of the the trilogy's and i don't know i [TS]

00:45:51 ◼ ► think it's perhaps because the setting [TS]

00:45:53 ◼ ► is just a little bit more colorful and [TS]

00:45:55 ◼ ► the one thing I didn't touch on was that [TS]

00:45:57 ◼ ► in addition to these two things there's [TS]

00:45:59 ◼ ► sort of a loose framing device that sort [TS]

00:46:02 ◼ ► of pops in and out [TS]

00:46:03 ◼ ► that's told from the point of view of [TS]

00:46:06 ◼ ► these giant serpent creatures that are [TS]

00:46:08 ◼ ► just sort of like swimming under the [TS]

00:46:09 ◼ ► water and it doesn't make a whole lot of [TS]

00:46:11 ◼ ► sense until later in the trilogy so i [TS]

00:46:12 ◼ ► won't say much about that but it gets [TS]

00:46:15 ◼ ► really really cool they're sort of like [TS]

00:46:17 ◼ ► ancient secrets that are become coming [TS]

00:46:20 ◼ ► to light later on down the road and i [TS]

00:46:22 ◼ ► highly recommend giving it a try and [TS]

00:46:24 ◼ ► then but it ends on a little bit of a [TS]

00:46:27 ◼ ► cliffhanger so be ready for that but if [TS]

00:46:28 ◼ ► you haven't enjoyed the first book then [TS]

00:46:30 ◼ ► it doesn't make sense to keep going and [TS]

00:46:32 ◼ ► you're not really anything by jumping [TS]

00:46:34 ◼ ► out at that point right shift with magic [TS]

00:46:37 ◼ ► good 1i haven't heard of that one either [TS]

00:46:38 ◼ ► so it's on the list and it brings us to [TS]

00:46:41 ◼ ► Scott yeah I'm surprised and happy you [TS]

00:46:45 ◼ ► went after Erica last time it shouldn't [TS]

00:46:47 ◼ ► be that big a shock [TS]

00:46:48 ◼ ► well I thought there was a sneaking [TS]

00:46:50 ◼ ► round thing in my own very confused by [TS]

00:46:53 ◼ ► this draft format you can pick a snake [TS]

00:46:55 ◼ ► related book if you like but oh alright [TS]

00:46:58 ◼ ► well pick two serpents rise by Max [TS]

00:47:00 ◼ ► Gladstone actually on my list so hope [TS]

00:47:05 ◼ ► you're worried about you Scott [TS]

00:47:07 ◼ ► haha i'm ready for any animal reference [TS]

00:47:10 ◼ ► with my list of books figure capybara [TS]

00:47:13 ◼ ► so this is the second in a series kind [TS]

00:47:17 ◼ ► of loosely grouped together series so [TS]

00:47:20 ◼ ► you can read them in any order the [TS]

00:47:22 ◼ ► series is the craft series and basically [TS]

00:47:24 ◼ ► max Gladstone envisions a world where [TS]

00:47:29 ◼ ► there is there were gods that were [TS]

00:47:31 ◼ ► actual things right and they were [TS]

00:47:34 ◼ ► magical and followers and they had [TS]

00:47:36 ◼ ► powers and they basically took care of [TS]

00:47:38 ◼ ► the world and humans kind of slowly [TS]

00:47:41 ◼ ► figured out how to craft magic [TS]

00:47:44 ◼ ► themselves and overthrew the gods killed [TS]

00:47:48 ◼ ► a bunch of them trapped some of them and [TS]

00:47:51 ◼ ► kind of siphon off the power to do a [TS]

00:47:53 ◼ ► bunch of things and basically he [TS]

00:47:55 ◼ ► imagines if there is this world [TS]

00:47:58 ◼ ► then there must be bureaucrats that run [TS]

00:48:00 ◼ ► this world so the first book called [TS]

00:48:04 ◼ ► three parts dead is about a lawyer firm [TS]

00:48:07 ◼ ► that specializes basically in DD [TS]

00:48:10 ◼ ► arbitrage and so this this deity that [TS]

00:48:13 ◼ ► this town is using to power everything [TS]

00:48:15 ◼ ► is slowly dying and many towns kind of [TS]

00:48:19 ◼ ► have claims over different parts of the [TS]

00:48:20 ◼ ► Gods so they hire this lawyer firm to [TS]

00:48:23 ◼ ► kind of settle it down the second book [TS]

00:48:25 ◼ ► is set in a different city this up i'm [TS]

00:48:28 ◼ ► not making itself but that's the [TS]

00:48:31 ◼ ► craziest thing [TS]

00:48:32 ◼ ► oh that's right go ahead the second book [TS]

00:48:35 ◼ ► to surface rise is set in a different [TS]

00:48:36 ◼ ► city in the same world where there is [TS]

00:48:39 ◼ ► this character called the Red King who [TS]

00:48:41 ◼ ► has a company called Red King [TS]

00:48:43 ◼ ► consolidated that owns the rights to [TS]

00:48:46 ◼ ► supply water to the city and the cities [TS]

00:48:49 ◼ ► in the desert and he read the Red King [TS]

00:48:52 ◼ ► is a powerful human magician who killed [TS]

00:48:57 ◼ ► the god of this city and kind of got [TS]

00:49:00 ◼ ► immortality but in the process [TS]

00:49:02 ◼ ► transforms himself into a walking [TS]

00:49:04 ◼ ► skeleton and he also loves to drink [TS]

00:49:06 ◼ ► coffee and the main character is kind of [TS]

00:49:10 ◼ ► his his troubleshooter called Caleb who [TS]

00:49:14 ◼ ► has to figure out what's happening with [TS]

00:49:17 ◼ ► this reservoir where an explosion has [TS]

00:49:20 ◼ ► happened and he has to figure out and [TS]

00:49:23 ◼ ► then the water takes some demonic forms [TS]

00:49:27 ◼ ► and starts attacking people which [TS]

00:49:29 ◼ ► negatively impacts the company and so [TS]

00:49:31 ◼ ► the Red King is upset because he feels [TS]

00:49:33 ◼ ► like he's going to lose this city's [TS]

00:49:35 ◼ ► water contract because the water is [TS]

00:49:36 ◼ ► attacking people [TS]

00:49:38 ◼ ► so he needs to get it figured out and [TS]

00:49:41 ◼ ► that is basically the story of the book [TS]

00:49:43 ◼ ► and it is just delightful [TS]

00:49:44 ◼ ► wow that's another book I have never [TS]

00:49:46 ◼ ► heard of that's pretty wild [TS]

00:49:48 ◼ ► but she's a few things that come with [TS]

00:49:49 ◼ ► see the 3000 not a ton but if you liked [TS]

00:49:52 ◼ ► this book you might also like it's [TS]

00:49:54 ◼ ► alright good job Scott thanks top tackle [TS]

00:49:57 ◼ ► him [TS]

00:49:58 ◼ ► oh also taken by surprise [TS]

00:50:02 ◼ ► what's this is a not that complicated to [TS]

00:50:05 ◼ ► format go ahead [TS]

00:50:08 ◼ ► my friend so I'm recommending a book [TS]

00:50:10 ◼ ► this is nonfiction and it is written by [TS]

00:50:12 ◼ ► a friend of mine my editor at The [TS]

00:50:14 ◼ ► Economist Tom Standage order book that I [TS]

00:50:16 ◼ ► am really enjoying and I'm not just [TS]

00:50:18 ◼ ► saying that he Tom as in so either i was [TS]

00:50:20 ◼ ► fortunate enough to meet mr. Stevenson [TS]

00:50:23 ◼ ► and beat his house because there is a [TS]

00:50:24 ◼ ► little book reception for comedy pass [TS]

00:50:25 ◼ ► through town on a book tour for this the [TS]

00:50:28 ◼ ► book is called writing on the wall and [TS]

00:50:30 ◼ ► Tom writes these books that are about [TS]

00:50:32 ◼ ► why nothing is new again they should all [TS]

00:50:35 ◼ ► be called like they're there is nothing [TS]

00:50:36 ◼ ► new Under the Sun or something because [TS]

00:50:38 ◼ ► there are there explain the context of [TS]

00:50:41 ◼ ► what we think is new now and we think [TS]

00:50:43 ◼ ► we're sort of sorting through in society [TS]

00:50:45 ◼ ► but turns out has remarkably similar [TS]

00:50:48 ◼ ► underpinnings and echoes back through [TS]

00:50:50 ◼ ► history even when it seems like the [TS]

00:50:52 ◼ ► technology could exists so writing on [TS]

00:50:54 ◼ ► the wall is it's the subtitle is a [TS]

00:50:56 ◼ ► social networking the first two thousand [TS]

00:50:58 ◼ ► years and it is it's really charming [TS]

00:51:02 ◼ ► hilarious [TS]

00:51:03 ◼ ► even if you have a good grasp of history [TS]

00:51:05 ◼ ► and I might Roman history isn't so good [TS]

00:51:06 ◼ ► but there's basically like before [TS]

00:51:09 ◼ ► printing presses Romans even at distant [TS]

00:51:12 ◼ ► outposts and all these you know slaves [TS]

00:51:14 ◼ ► and scribes who would write copies of [TS]

00:51:17 ◼ ► things all the time and they were [TS]

00:51:18 ◼ ► circulating letters the Romans had an [TS]

00:51:20 ◼ ► incredible distribution system before [TS]

00:51:22 ◼ ► the male's so people were actually [TS]

00:51:24 ◼ ► sending blog and she's packing force [TS]

00:51:27 ◼ ► across the Appian Way and it was it's it [TS]

00:51:30 ◼ ► is hilarious and so you read this you're [TS]

00:51:32 ◼ ► like okay this is actually he's not [TS]

00:51:34 ◼ ► really stretching the case like people [TS]

00:51:36 ◼ ► would write stuff and then they would [TS]

00:51:37 ◼ ► annotate it and they returned it and [TS]

00:51:39 ◼ ► they market with comments and it would [TS]

00:51:40 ◼ ► come back and they would be [TS]

00:51:41 ◼ ► redistributed and people get angry and [TS]

00:51:43 ◼ ► very political fights and flame wars all [TS]

00:51:45 ◼ ► the people writing out by you know [TS]

00:51:47 ◼ ► longhand in some of the scribes were [TS]

00:51:49 ◼ ► particularly well-liked because they had [TS]

00:51:51 ◼ ► developed their own shorthand system so [TS]

00:51:52 ◼ ► they could take notes more quickly and [TS]

00:51:54 ◼ ► some were very fast and people were [TS]

00:51:55 ◼ ► particularly wealthy could have a ton of [TS]

00:51:57 ◼ ► ppl transcribing constantly to produce [TS]

00:52:00 ◼ ► these things and so it starts there and [TS]

00:52:02 ◼ ► it goes through lecture of every era in [TS]

00:52:04 ◼ ► which we sort of think well this is [TS]

00:52:05 ◼ ► before this or oh well newspapers did [TS]

00:52:07 ◼ ► this and he talks about the [TS]

00:52:09 ◼ ► consolidation of social media into mass [TS]

00:52:12 ◼ ► media and then what he thinks is this [TS]

00:52:14 ◼ ► glorious you know not perfect but this [TS]

00:52:17 ◼ ► reopening of [TS]

00:52:18 ◼ ► consolidation from all this interaction [TS]

00:52:20 ◼ ► among people even newspapers for a long [TS]

00:52:22 ◼ ► time really newspapers were mostly [TS]

00:52:24 ◼ ► publishing dispatches and letters from [TS]

00:52:25 ◼ ► other people they do their own reporting [TS]

00:52:27 ◼ ► so they were actually quite social in [TS]

00:52:29 ◼ ► their own way even though there are mass [TS]

00:52:30 ◼ ► method of distribution so lovely book [TS]

00:52:33 ◼ ► and all Thomas books are actually quite [TS]

00:52:35 ◼ ► neat victorian internet the mechanic [TS]

00:52:37 ◼ ► look about the mechanical turk the [TS]

00:52:39 ◼ ► chess-playing machine all kinds these [TS]

00:52:41 ◼ ► guys just wonderful books about that [TS]

00:52:44 ◼ ► peek beneath the surface of what we [TS]

00:52:46 ◼ ► think was going on in society or [TS]

00:52:47 ◼ ► technology and and this is his latest so [TS]

00:52:50 ◼ ► it's a little bit of I'm sorry little [TS]

00:52:52 ◼ ► bit of nepotism but I'm sure I'm sure it [TS]

00:52:54 ◼ ► can be forgiven because it's a good book [TS]

00:52:55 ◼ ► i'm going to fully support your nepotism [TS]

00:52:58 ◼ ► foreshadowing oh why [TS]

00:53:01 ◼ ► alright so so writing on the wall Tom [TS]

00:53:04 ◼ ► Standage alright so i found a theme for [TS]

00:53:06 ◼ ► mine that I i actually was looking at my [TS]

00:53:08 ◼ ► list and realizing that I do have a [TS]

00:53:09 ◼ ► theme here my famous things that are not [TS]

00:53:11 ◼ ► science fiction novels that should [TS]

00:53:13 ◼ ► appeal in some way to people who read [TS]

00:53:15 ◼ ► science fiction novel so we had faces of [TS]

00:53:18 ◼ ► gravity which is by a writer of genre [TS]

00:53:20 ◼ ► novels of many kinds and now i'm gonna [TS]

00:53:22 ◼ ► move on to a book by nick hornby that [TS]

00:53:26 ◼ ► I've mentioned he's one of my two [TS]

00:53:28 ◼ ► favorite contemporary novelists really [TS]

00:53:30 ◼ ► and I could recommend many of his books [TS]

00:53:33 ◼ ► some of which have slight [TS]

00:53:35 ◼ ► science-fictional overtones but i'm [TS]

00:53:37 ◼ ► going to recommend a memoir that he [TS]

00:53:39 ◼ ► wrote that has been turned into not one [TS]

00:53:41 ◼ ► but two kind of lackluster to poor [TS]

00:53:45 ◼ ► motion pictures but the memoir is great [TS]

00:53:49 ◼ ► it's fever pitch it became a romantic [TS]

00:53:51 ◼ ► comedy with jimmy fallon and drew [TS]

00:53:53 ◼ ► barrymore it also became another [TS]

00:53:55 ◼ ► romantic comedy with colin firth [TS]

00:53:57 ◼ ► slightly better the conference one is [TS]

00:54:00 ◼ ► better [TS]

00:54:00 ◼ ► it's got Colin first so yeah exactly [TS]

00:54:03 ◼ ► yeah calm confidence goes a long way [TS]

00:54:05 ◼ ► versus chimney Falon sure he also has [TS]

00:54:09 ◼ ► dialogue in it to riches so so fever [TS]

00:54:12 ◼ ► pitch [TS]

00:54:13 ◼ ► Nick Hornby wonderful i've said this [TS]

00:54:14 ◼ ► before wonderful writer just as a [TS]

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00:54:23 ◼ ► wonderful wonderful novel but fever [TS]

00:54:26 ◼ ► pitch [TS]

00:54:27 ◼ ► the reason i'm picking it is it is the [TS]

00:54:31 ◼ ► best thing I've [TS]

00:54:31 ◼ ► ever read about being a fan and it's [TS]

00:54:34 ◼ ► very specifically about being a sports [TS]

00:54:36 ◼ ► fan but even if you're not a sports fan [TS]

00:54:38 ◼ ► even if you're just in really i mean [TS]

00:54:40 ◼ ► really really enthusiastic about things [TS]

00:54:43 ◼ ► about something it this is his memoir [TS]

00:54:48 ◼ ► about being a completely crazy fan of [TS]

00:54:51 ◼ ► Arsenal the London the North London [TS]

00:54:53 ◼ ► football club soccer we would call it [TS]

00:54:55 ◼ ► here i don't know if they call it soccer [TS]

00:54:57 ◼ ► in Canada but they would say said if it [TS]

00:55:00 ◼ ► happened to see a locker he's a he's a [TS]

00:55:03 ◼ ► insane fan-like insect-like moves to [TS]

00:55:06 ◼ ► where the stadium is and his apartment [TS]

00:55:09 ◼ ► is near there and and he's he's [TS]

00:55:13 ◼ ► superstitious so he does things like [TS]

00:55:16 ◼ ► gets up to get something and something [TS]

00:55:18 ◼ ► good happens and he stays in that spot [TS]

00:55:20 ◼ ► for the next like two hours so it's [TS]

00:55:23 ◼ ► funny it is definitely a knowing [TS]

00:55:25 ◼ ► portrayal of how he's allowing his [TS]

00:55:27 ◼ ► obsession to kind of rule his life if [TS]

00:55:30 ◼ ► you're if you're a fan of any sports [TS]

00:55:32 ◼ ► teams of any sort you will really get it [TS]

00:55:34 ◼ ► but I think if you're a fan of things [TS]

00:55:37 ◼ ► you will appreciate this story of why [TS]

00:55:41 ◼ ► people get enthusiastic about things and [TS]

00:55:43 ◼ ► why they hold them so close to their [TS]

00:55:45 ◼ ► heart and what it means to be a fan and [TS]

00:55:48 ◼ ► the good and the bad of it what what [TS]

00:55:50 ◼ ► what makes you so excited to be a fan [TS]

00:55:52 ◼ ► and also the kind of crazy things you do [TS]

00:55:56 ◼ ► when the the things that might not be [TS]

00:55:57 ◼ ► logical but you do them anyway because [TS]

00:55:59 ◼ ► of the love that you've got for whatever [TS]

00:56:01 ◼ ► that thing is that you love and you know [TS]

00:56:04 ◼ ► recently there's been a whole genre of a [TS]

00:56:07 ◼ ► series of documentaries about people who [TS]

00:56:09 ◼ ► are totally obsessed with some really [TS]

00:56:11 ◼ ► small thing and i always find those [TS]

00:56:13 ◼ ► fascinating because you know we all what [TS]

00:56:15 ◼ ► we're obsessed with can really differ [TS]

00:56:17 ◼ ► and you might be the guy who's obsessed [TS]

00:56:18 ◼ ► with playing Donkey Kong and that's a [TS]

00:56:20 ◼ ► great movie but uh you might just be a [TS]

00:56:23 ◼ ► fan of of soccer or of this one [TS]

00:56:27 ◼ ► particular team or some other sports [TS]

00:56:29 ◼ ► team or some other TV show or movie or [TS]

00:56:31 ◼ ► whatever so really funny really [TS]

00:56:35 ◼ ► heartfelt and I think says something [TS]

00:56:37 ◼ ► about what it's like to be a man so [TS]

00:56:38 ◼ ► fever pitch by nick hornby and that's my [TS]

00:56:41 ◼ ► that's my choice and with the end of [TS]

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01:00:06 ◼ ► okay well in keeping with the theme of [TS]

01:00:09 ◼ ► entry-level reading for authors you may [TS]

01:00:11 ◼ ► or may not have actually considered i'm [TS]

01:00:12 ◼ ► going to go back to the nineteen [TS]

01:00:14 ◼ ► eighties and early nineties and i'm [TS]

01:00:17 ◼ ► going to recommend the book to ghana by [TS]

01:00:19 ◼ ► guy Gavriel Kay who [TS]

01:00:22 ◼ ► oh yeah America would like it but I like [TS]

01:00:25 ◼ ► it I like in the confirmation and I have [TS]

01:00:30 ◼ ► kind of a of a tease one of those [TS]

01:00:32 ◼ ► officers were all read anything he's [TS]

01:00:33 ◼ ► written but I've got more critical of [TS]

01:00:35 ◼ ► his his later work i know well if I feel [TS]

01:00:39 ◼ ► like his language has gotten really [TS]

01:00:40 ◼ ► stylized and precious in the last 10 [TS]

01:00:42 ◼ ► years or so like I've read both of the [TS]

01:00:44 ◼ ► child I've read both of the books that [TS]

01:00:46 ◼ ► he wrote after doing all that research [TS]

01:00:48 ◼ ► on like the hand I Han Dynasty like [TS]

01:00:51 ◼ ► river of stars and under heaven and it's [TS]

01:00:54 ◼ ► just there which I'm not recommending [TS]

01:00:56 ◼ ► but like the language there's kind of [TS]

01:00:58 ◼ ► almost a parody of his early stuff but [TS]

01:01:00 ◼ ► to Ghana is I think the fourth book he [TS]

01:01:03 ◼ ► wrote after i'm a trilogy which I would [TS]

01:01:06 ◼ ► also recommend but the reason I'm [TS]

01:01:07 ◼ ► telling you all to read to Ghana is not [TS]

01:01:09 ◼ ► only does this give you an idea of this [TS]

01:01:10 ◼ ► guy's language which again is is very I [TS]

01:01:14 ◼ ► hesitate to use the word precious but [TS]

01:01:15 ◼ ► it's very specific and very sentimental [TS]

01:01:17 ◼ ► in a way but it's it's the book is about [TS]

01:01:22 ◼ ► a group of revolutionaries who are [TS]

01:01:23 ◼ ► seeking to overthrow wizard who has any [TS]

01:01:26 ◼ ► effect managed to erase the very name of [TS]

01:01:29 ◼ ► their country from existence [TS]

01:01:30 ◼ ► so it's about the limits of zella tree [TS]

01:01:32 ◼ ► and when your moral crusade is or isn't [TS]

01:01:35 ◼ ► terribly moral there are of course some [TS]

01:01:37 ◼ ► soap opera type complications where one [TS]

01:01:40 ◼ ► guy is to send by his mother another one [TS]

01:01:41 ◼ ► had an affair with his sister was now [TS]

01:01:43 ◼ ► sleeping with the wizard a but there are [TS]

01:01:47 ◼ ► there are some some it's funny [TS]

01:01:49 ◼ ► which again seems to have Lee chips with [TS]

01:01:52 ◼ ► queso later work it's funny it's smart [TS]

01:01:54 ◼ ► it's incredibly well research because [TS]

01:01:55 ◼ ► there's a lot of parallels to Italian [TS]

01:01:57 ◼ ► history during the Renaissance the magic [TS]

01:02:00 ◼ ► is an element but it's not proof and [TS]

01:02:02 ◼ ► then a wizard waves his hands and things [TS]

01:02:03 ◼ ► happen it's actually uses a tactical [TS]

01:02:06 ◼ ► deployment and it's a book about [TS]

01:02:09 ◼ ► national identity and nation-building [TS]

01:02:11 ◼ ► and that [TS]

01:02:12 ◼ ► point your political ideologies become [TS]

01:02:14 ◼ ► too corrosive for you to actually hold [TS]

01:02:16 ◼ ► on to them so if you like fantasy [TS]

01:02:19 ◼ ► especially fantasy about worlds that [TS]

01:02:21 ◼ ► seem to be rooted in our own world [TS]

01:02:24 ◼ ► history i would highly recommend that [TS]

01:02:27 ◼ ► and then once you decide whether or not [TS]

01:02:28 ◼ ► you like to ghana you can run on not [TS]

01:02:30 ◼ ► walk and read the summer tree trilogy [TS]

01:02:33 ◼ ► double woo for that [TS]

01:02:36 ◼ ► ya know i love the feeling of our [TS]

01:02:37 ◼ ► tapestry like that's one of my favorite [TS]

01:02:39 ◼ ► some villages of all time but I didn't [TS]

01:02:42 ◼ ► want to recommend a trilogy because you [TS]

01:02:43 ◼ ► know I'm the most problem and all that [TS]

01:02:45 ◼ ► and I also thought well it's kind of [TS]

01:02:47 ◼ ► it's the guy I'd rather just had say [TS]

01:02:49 ◼ ► alright read this see if you like the [TS]

01:02:51 ◼ ► guy and then if you do you can jump into [TS]

01:02:52 ◼ ► the trilogy which has like crazy our [TS]

01:02:54 ◼ ► theory and parallels and and you know [TS]

01:02:57 ◼ ► dwarves who made crystal art and and [TS]

01:03:00 ◼ ► wolves that talk and other stuff like [TS]

01:03:02 ◼ ► that but but you know start with this [TS]

01:03:03 ◼ ► first and for the love of God stay away [TS]

01:03:06 ◼ ► from the later stuff too low calibrator [TS]

01:03:12 ◼ ► or your expectations accordingly [TS]

01:03:14 ◼ ► yeah I kind of this complaint about [TS]

01:03:15 ◼ ► william gibson to who is another author [TS]

01:03:17 ◼ ► i really really love and I mean I there [TS]

01:03:20 ◼ ► are there i can probably recite parts of [TS]

01:03:22 ◼ ► of the neuromancer trilogy and that they [TS]

01:03:25 ◼ ► can't be healthy but I sort of it but I [TS]

01:03:27 ◼ ► sort of feel like some of his his later [TS]

01:03:29 ◼ ► work the language has almost become a [TS]

01:03:30 ◼ ► parody of the style and perspective that [TS]

01:03:33 ◼ ► he has a younger writer and part of it [TS]

01:03:35 ◼ ► is you know you simply get into the [TS]

01:03:36 ◼ ► patterns of it works for you and I still [TS]

01:03:38 ◼ ► think he's a lot of really interesting [TS]

01:03:38 ◼ ► things to see a lot of great stories i [TS]

01:03:40 ◼ ► just think that that there's a lot of of [TS]

01:03:42 ◼ ► language shortcuts or or overheated pros [TS]

01:03:46 ◼ ► that that that that could use a good [TS]

01:03:47 ◼ ► editing yet that happens with a lot of [TS]

01:03:49 ◼ ► successful writers later yeah oh yeah [TS]

01:03:51 ◼ ► now they did they get successfully like [TS]

01:03:53 ◼ ► oh I know what works and you're like [TS]

01:03:54 ◼ ► well if you go i could only read a [TS]

01:03:56 ◼ ► description about a fine leather shirt [TS]

01:03:58 ◼ ► so many times [TS]

01:03:59 ◼ ► alright David it's your turn okay I'm [TS]

01:04:01 ◼ ► just gonna start with the first [TS]

01:04:02 ◼ ► paragraph of this book because it says [TS]

01:04:04 ◼ ► everything about reading you were about [TS]

01:04:08 ◼ ► to begin reading Italo Calvino's new [TS]

01:04:10 ◼ ► novel if on a winter's night a traveler [TS]

01:04:12 ◼ ► relax concentrate but the world around [TS]

01:04:15 ◼ ► you fade best close the door the TV is [TS]

01:04:18 ◼ ► always on in the next room [TS]

01:04:20 ◼ ► tell the others know I don't want to [TS]

01:04:22 ◼ ► watch TV raise your voice they won't [TS]

01:04:24 ◼ ► hear you [TS]

01:04:25 ◼ ► yell I'm beginning to read Italo [TS]

01:04:28 ◼ ► Calvino's new novel or if you prefer [TS]

01:04:30 ◼ ► don't say anything and just hope they'll [TS]

01:04:32 ◼ ► leave you alone [TS]

01:04:33 ◼ ► it's like this book kind of again blew [TS]

01:04:38 ◼ ► my mind and changed the way I thought [TS]

01:04:40 ◼ ► about what you could do with fiction and [TS]

01:04:43 ◼ ► would you know because what it is [TS]

01:04:46 ◼ ► every other chapter is written in the [TS]

01:04:49 ◼ ► second person present tense so it's you [TS]

01:04:53 ◼ ► are doing this and eventually you meet a [TS]

01:04:56 ◼ ► woman and she is also a reader but the [TS]

01:04:59 ◼ ► alternating chapters are chapters of the [TS]

01:05:01 ◼ ► books that the two of you are reading up [TS]

01:05:04 ◼ ► and each one is a different genre each [TS]

01:05:07 ◼ ► one breaks off at a really climactic [TS]

01:05:10 ◼ ► exciting moment and then the characters [TS]

01:05:13 ◼ ► the the two of you are drawn into a [TS]

01:05:17 ◼ ► mysterious plot involving books and [TS]

01:05:20 ◼ ► mystery and intrigue and the elements of [TS]

01:05:22 ◼ ► the different chapters start working [TS]

01:05:24 ◼ ► their way into the reality of the book [TS]

01:05:27 ◼ ► and eventually you fall in love you get [TS]

01:05:30 ◼ ► married at the very end she says turn [TS]

01:05:32 ◼ ► off your light aren't you tired of [TS]

01:05:34 ◼ ► reading and you say just a moment I've [TS]

01:05:36 ◼ ► almost finished if on a winter's night [TS]

01:05:37 ◼ ► to travel by italo calvino it's just you [TS]

01:05:41 ◼ ► know after that you don't need bright [TS]

01:05:45 ◼ ► lights big city you don't need any of [TS]

01:05:46 ◼ ► these other books written in second [TS]

01:05:48 ◼ ► person presidents like he did it go away [TS]

01:05:51 ◼ ► do something else but it is it is just [TS]

01:05:55 ◼ ► you know metafiction on a grand level no [TS]

01:05:59 ◼ ► one has done it better and and that the [TS]

01:06:02 ◼ ► different genre chapters are beautiful [TS]

01:06:04 ◼ ► pass teaches of the different styles as [TS]

01:06:07 ◼ ► Scott's just so much fun [TS]

01:06:09 ◼ ► alright i I've never even heard of that [TS]

01:06:10 ◼ ► either a little caffeine is a terrific [TS]

01:06:12 ◼ ► writer is well translated I mean the [TS]

01:06:15 ◼ ► transitions are like the readable they [TS]

01:06:17 ◼ ► don't feel like translation cosmic on [TS]

01:06:19 ◼ ► race is hilarious and crazy like it's [TS]

01:06:23 ◼ ► invisible cities and cities also raised [TS]

01:06:25 ◼ ► a terrific like straight fictional book [TS]

01:06:27 ◼ ► about a communist you know watching the [TS]

01:06:30 ◼ ► vote the polls to prevent fraud it was [TS]

01:06:33 ◼ ► just very interesting meditation but it [TS]

01:06:35 ◼ ► was [TS]

01:06:35 ◼ ► you know post-war possible for to Italy [TS]

01:06:38 ◼ ► read some of short stories it's like [TS]

01:06:40 ◼ ► kind of everything he writes whatever [TS]

01:06:42 ◼ ► genre type it is fascinating [TS]

01:06:44 ◼ ► oh yeah and nothing is I mean he doesn't [TS]

01:06:46 ◼ ► repeat himself every book is its own [TS]

01:06:48 ◼ ► thing and even his books about writing [TS]

01:06:50 ◼ ► like the posthumous six memos for the [TS]

01:06:53 ◼ ► next millennium just beautiful if if you [TS]

01:06:56 ◼ ► want to be a a writer and especially a [TS]

01:06:59 ◼ ► fiction writer go find that book that [TS]

01:07:01 ◼ ► and the art of literature both just you [TS]

01:07:04 ◼ ► know again you don't need anything else [TS]

01:07:06 ◼ ► after those so if you'd like to stop [TS]

01:07:08 ◼ ► reading books and I'm gonna say alright [TS]

01:07:13 ◼ ► that's it I'm done doing I'm doing them [TS]

01:07:15 ◼ ► for Laughs doesn't mean the rest of our [TS]

01:07:17 ◼ ► yes yes my brain is people know I mean [TS]

01:07:22 ◼ ► to be honest that's what happened when i [TS]

01:07:23 ◼ ► read watchmen the first time was like [TS]

01:07:24 ◼ ► okay knocking requirements for a while [TS]

01:07:26 ◼ ► now I've kind of done that [TS]

01:07:29 ◼ ► yep that was good and not in a bad way [TS]

01:07:30 ◼ ► but like no you did it [TS]

01:07:33 ◼ ► these are the guys mm don't know we [TS]

01:07:35 ◼ ► already mentioned Hyperion but that was [TS]

01:07:36 ◼ ► my reaction I here to read this and I'm [TS]

01:07:38 ◼ ► like I don't ever need to read science [TS]

01:07:39 ◼ ► fiction again and then i read the city [TS]

01:07:44 ◼ ► kids read more books than you've ridden [TS]

01:07:46 ◼ ► shotgun with your gut UND assembly [TS]

01:07:49 ◼ ► doesn't get paid if you stop reading his [TS]

01:07:50 ◼ ► books after that one [TS]

01:07:52 ◼ ► I should have plunged the daggers in my [TS]

01:07:53 ◼ ► eyes the world is full of those writers [TS]

01:07:55 ◼ ► are likely make this book perfect but [TS]

01:07:57 ◼ ► then they wouldn't buy my other books so [TS]

01:07:59 ◼ ► leave them wanting more [TS]

01:08:01 ◼ ► Erica what's your third selection [TS]

01:08:04 ◼ ► well actually before I get to my third [TS]

01:08:06 ◼ ► selection i just realized that there was [TS]

01:08:08 ◼ ► something really important that i forgot [TS]

01:08:09 ◼ ► to say about my second selection but the [TS]

01:08:11 ◼ ► reason I forgot ties into my third [TS]

01:08:13 ◼ ► selection [TS]

01:08:15 ◼ ► well yes if you can buy time together [TS]

01:08:17 ◼ ► you've saved me lots of editing time so [TS]

01:08:19 ◼ ► great you're welcome i was thinking [TS]

01:08:21 ◼ ► about Jenna so that the one thing that i [TS]

01:08:24 ◼ ► forgot was that the these books by robin [TS]

01:08:28 ◼ ► hobb contain one of actually think tied [TS]

01:08:30 ◼ ► for my favorite fictional character ever [TS]

01:08:32 ◼ ► of all time and I can't say what this [TS]

01:08:36 ◼ ► character's name is because we don't [TS]

01:08:37 ◼ ► ever really find out in the first [TS]

01:08:39 ◼ ► trilogy i mentioned this character is [TS]

01:08:40 ◼ ► known as just the fool and it's kind of [TS]

01:08:43 ◼ ► a a teenage a youth us you are led to [TS]

01:08:48 ◼ ► believe that [TS]

01:08:49 ◼ ► that this character is male but then in [TS]

01:08:51 ◼ ► the second in the second series you have [TS]

01:08:53 ◼ ► this kind of mysterious woman named [TS]

01:08:55 ◼ ► amber who they never explicitly say but [TS]

01:08:58 ◼ ► eventually pretty quickly you kind of [TS]

01:08:59 ◼ ► come to figure out oh this is the full [TS]

01:09:01 ◼ ► of character just dressed up as a woman [TS]

01:09:04 ◼ ► and looking and acting somewhat [TS]

01:09:05 ◼ ► differently and then the third trilogy [TS]

01:09:07 ◼ ► shows back up in the original country as [TS]

01:09:10 ◼ ► the fool again and I just in addition to [TS]

01:09:13 ◼ ► being a strangely genderless character I [TS]

01:09:16 ◼ ► just think it very wise and centered and [TS]

01:09:20 ◼ ► grounded character which I just love and [TS]

01:09:23 ◼ ► I i adore the fact that the gender in [TS]

01:09:26 ◼ ► this situation is they both is and is [TS]

01:09:29 ◼ ► not important [TS]

01:09:30 ◼ ► sort of kind of is important locally to [TS]

01:09:32 ◼ ► the characters that are surrounding him [TS]

01:09:34 ◼ ► her at any given time but overall this [TS]

01:09:38 ◼ ► character is just wonderful and lovable [TS]

01:09:40 ◼ ► and important and it really doesn't make [TS]

01:09:42 ◼ ► any difference whatsoever what is [TS]

01:09:44 ◼ ► underneath the trousers and i just think [TS]

01:09:46 ◼ ► that's kind of a great thing so I just [TS]

01:09:48 ◼ ► had to throw that in there because i [TS]

01:09:49 ◼ ► forgot and out the reason that i forgot [TS]

01:09:51 ◼ ► is because instead of writing up my [TS]

01:09:53 ◼ ► notes like I meant to before this I was [TS]

01:09:55 ◼ ► watching an adventure in space and time [TS]

01:09:57 ◼ ► which is a duck a docudrama about the [TS]

01:10:01 ◼ ► creation of Doctor Who back in the [TS]

01:10:02 ◼ ► sixties and it was wonderful i won't [TS]

01:10:04 ◼ ► spoil anything but made a show guys it [TS]

01:10:08 ◼ ► was really cool my third choice i've [TS]

01:10:09 ◼ ► actually got taking a bit of a left turn [TS]

01:10:11 ◼ ► here and gone with something non fiction [TS]

01:10:13 ◼ ► which for me is even weirder than a [TS]

01:10:15 ◼ ► pirate book because I almost never read [TS]

01:10:17 ◼ ► nonfiction it's just not my thing but I [TS]

01:10:20 ◼ ► it is the 50th anniversary year of [TS]

01:10:23 ◼ ► Doctor Who so I've kind of been gloating [TS]

01:10:25 ◼ ► myself on Doctor Who stuff both fiction [TS]

01:10:27 ◼ ► and nonfiction so my third pic is a book [TS]

01:10:30 ◼ ► called chicks unravel time women journey [TS]

01:10:33 ◼ ► through every season of doctor who and [TS]

01:10:35 ◼ ► it is an edited full disclosure edited [TS]

01:10:38 ◼ ► by deborah Standish and LM miles who are [TS]

01:10:40 ◼ ► two of my co-hosts on the very podcast [TS]

01:10:42 ◼ ► so I'm a little bit biased here but i [TS]

01:10:45 ◼ ► think that even if I wasn't it would [TS]

01:10:48 ◼ ► still be i think i would still love this [TS]

01:10:50 ◼ ► book it was actually nominated for the [TS]

01:10:52 ◼ ► best related work [TS]

01:10:53 ◼ ► hugo award this year so i'm not alone in [TS]

01:10:56 ◼ ► thinking that it's freaking awesome [TS]

01:10:57 ◼ ► so it's a collection of essays about all [TS]

01:11:00 ◼ ► of the seasons of Doctor Who [TS]

01:11:02 ◼ ► not including the most recent series [TS]

01:11:04 ◼ ► seven because it wasn't out yet [TS]

01:11:06 ◼ ► can I don't think maybe six isn't in [TS]

01:11:08 ◼ ► there either but anyway it's a [TS]

01:11:09 ◼ ► collection of all these essays all of [TS]

01:11:11 ◼ ► them written by women [TS]

01:11:12 ◼ ► some of them are examinations of sort of [TS]

01:11:14 ◼ ► the social commentary in the show [TS]

01:11:16 ◼ ► possibly women's issues [TS]

01:11:18 ◼ ► gender race some of the essays are a [TS]

01:11:21 ◼ ► little more light and fun [TS]

01:11:23 ◼ ► one of them is actually called david [TS]

01:11:24 ◼ ► tennant's bomb which is awesome how the [TS]

01:11:27 ◼ ► NSA or the or the bottom [TS]

01:11:29 ◼ ► yeah i'm just going to say yes [TS]

01:11:33 ◼ ► all right but if that particular one is [TS]

01:11:35 ◼ ► very nice it's one of the lighter more [TS]

01:11:37 ◼ ► fun ones but it actually still sort of [TS]

01:11:39 ◼ ► gets to to the point of that's a series [TS]

01:11:42 ◼ ► to the new series Dave attendance for [TS]

01:11:44 ◼ ► series and talking about how this sort [TS]

01:11:46 ◼ ► of sexy doctor brought in a whole bunch [TS]

01:11:48 ◼ ► of new fans who were kind of coming to [TS]

01:11:51 ◼ ► the show because he was good-looking but [TS]

01:11:54 ◼ ► then discovering all of the other things [TS]

01:11:56 ◼ ► that are wonderful about the doctor and [TS]

01:11:58 ◼ ► bring them in and I just thought that [TS]

01:12:00 ◼ ► was pretty great [TS]

01:12:01 ◼ ► so there are all kinds of essays some of [TS]

01:12:04 ◼ ► them are very sort of like dense and [TS]

01:12:06 ◼ ► more sciency some of them are just kind [TS]

01:12:09 ◼ ► of easy reading and fun but they're all [TS]

01:12:11 ◼ ► really good and one of the things i [TS]

01:12:12 ◼ ► especially liked about this book is the [TS]

01:12:14 ◼ ► order [TS]

01:12:15 ◼ ► it's not in chronological order which at [TS]

01:12:17 ◼ ► first my nerd brain was like oh my god [TS]

01:12:19 ◼ ► what were you thinking but they really [TS]

01:12:21 ◼ ► did something smart with it they took it [TS]

01:12:23 ◼ ► and kind of form it together so that [TS]

01:12:27 ◼ ► sort of tells a story so now if you read [TS]

01:12:29 ◼ ► the book from the beginning to the end [TS]

01:12:31 ◼ ► it really flows and I mean of course you [TS]

01:12:33 ◼ ► don't have to you can go through and [TS]

01:12:34 ◼ ► like pick out all right season 1 season [TS]

01:12:36 ◼ ► 2 etc but it really works the way that [TS]

01:12:39 ◼ ► they they pieced it together and I think [TS]

01:12:40 ◼ ► that it's wonderful [TS]

01:12:42 ◼ ► so I think this was this one would be [TS]

01:12:43 ◼ ► it's fun to read and it also makes a [TS]

01:12:45 ◼ ► really good stocking stuffer for for [TS]

01:12:47 ◼ ► doctor who fan in your family i may be [TS]

01:12:51 ◼ ► using it myself in that way [TS]

01:12:53 ◼ ► uh Scott mcnulty it's your turn [TS]

01:12:56 ◼ ► so the theme of my books which perhaps [TS]

01:12:59 ◼ ► would be only noticeable to me since the [TS]

01:13:03 ◼ ► the theme is booked Scott has read this [TS]

01:13:05 ◼ ► year I continues with my next book [TS]

01:13:09 ◼ ► because i have in fact read this this [TS]

01:13:12 ◼ ► year it is by Peter F have [TS]

01:13:15 ◼ ► person who also writes these kind of [TS]

01:13:18 ◼ ► sweeping space opera books [TS]

01:13:20 ◼ ► this one is not a sweeping space [TS]

01:13:24 ◼ ► operates his most recent book the great [TS]

01:13:26 ◼ ► north road which some people hate I [TS]

01:13:29 ◼ ► liked it [TS]

01:13:30 ◼ ► it's a almost 900 pages long because [TS]

01:13:34 ◼ ► that's what Peter F Hamilton does and [TS]

01:13:37 ◼ ► it's about it's basically a murder [TS]

01:13:39 ◼ ► mystery and I may have spoken about this [TS]

01:13:42 ◼ ► on a previous episode of the [TS]

01:13:44 ◼ ► uncomfortable and it includes many of [TS]

01:13:47 ◼ ► other things that Peter F Hamilton likes [TS]

01:13:49 ◼ ► to write about [TS]

01:13:50 ◼ ► he enjoys having portals that connect [TS]

01:13:54 ◼ ► different worlds that you are go through [TS]

01:13:57 ◼ ► with in vehicles so one of the series [TS]

01:13:59 ◼ ► features trains that go to different [TS]

01:14:01 ◼ ► worlds through these portals this one [TS]

01:14:03 ◼ ► just features the Great North Road which [TS]

01:14:05 ◼ ► is a row that you can drive your car up [TS]

01:14:08 ◼ ► through and then you go through a portal [TS]

01:14:10 ◼ ► and you're on a different planet and so [TS]

01:14:12 ◼ ► in this book there's the North family [TS]

01:14:15 ◼ ► that is a family that has cloned it's [TS]

01:14:17 ◼ ► the head of the family one of the clones [TS]

01:14:22 ◼ ► was murdered horribly on a planet that's [TS]

01:14:24 ◼ ► creates a biofuel that the earth depends [TS]

01:14:27 ◼ ► on 20 years ago and was never solved but [TS]

01:14:31 ◼ ► it was blamed on this particular woman [TS]

01:14:33 ◼ ► character but she escaped she actually [TS]

01:14:37 ◼ ► didn't escape she was a put in prison [TS]

01:14:39 ◼ ► but she claims she didn't do it and an [TS]

01:14:41 ◼ ► alien killed the sky believer because [TS]

01:14:44 ◼ ► aliens didn't no one has ever [TS]

01:14:45 ◼ ► encountered an alien in this universe so [TS]

01:14:48 ◼ ► they thought she was crazy and also for [TS]

01:14:50 ◼ ► some reason she never ages [TS]

01:14:51 ◼ ► so that kind of confuses people and then [TS]

01:14:54 ◼ ► 20 years later she's safely ensconced in [TS]

01:14:57 ◼ ► prison and on earth someone is another [TS]

01:15:00 ◼ ► one of these clones is horribly murdered [TS]

01:15:02 ◼ ► in similar in the exact same way and so [TS]

01:15:06 ◼ ► detective is called in to kind of figure [TS]

01:15:08 ◼ ► out like a local English detective who [TS]

01:15:10 ◼ ► is just wanting to you know make ends [TS]

01:15:12 ◼ ► meat is pulled into this kind of web of [TS]

01:15:14 ◼ ► intrigue that involves the the [TS]

01:15:18 ◼ ► most powerful family in this universe [TS]

01:15:20 ◼ ► and this weird person that he doesn't [TS]

01:15:23 ◼ ► really trust and he has to go to the [TS]

01:15:25 ◼ ► different planet and figure out what's [TS]

01:15:26 ◼ ► going on [TS]

01:15:27 ◼ ► it's pretty good it is i will say that [TS]

01:15:30 ◼ ► the first if you don't like a kind of [TS]

01:15:33 ◼ ► detective novels the first 200 pages of [TS]

01:15:36 ◼ ► this book probably will not be for you [TS]

01:15:38 ◼ ► but if you if you stick to it it does [TS]

01:15:42 ◼ ► ramp up the action and a little more [TS]

01:15:44 ◼ ► science fiction is in there the last 700 [TS]

01:15:47 ◼ ► pages they really make up for the first [TS]

01:15:50 ◼ ► two all right Eric [TS]

01:15:51 ◼ ► alright that's good that's got the again [TS]

01:15:53 ◼ ► it's the Scott melted guarantee that it [TS]

01:15:55 ◼ ► is a book he liked and read the history [TS]

01:15:57 ◼ ► with your bookie that no I liked it I [TS]

01:16:01 ◼ ► guarantee it [TS]

01:16:03 ◼ ► I like the first 200 pages tombs yeah [TS]

01:16:05 ◼ ► Glenn it's your turn [TS]

01:16:07 ◼ ► absolutely i'm ready this time I i like [TS]

01:16:11 ◼ ► to vote at the end about the most it did [TS]

01:16:14 ◼ ► Scott create wiki entries for all the [TS]

01:16:16 ◼ ► books that he's suggesting this time [TS]

01:16:17 ◼ ► around [TS]

01:16:18 ◼ ► hey they seem all made up but i'll have [TS]

01:16:21 ◼ ► to go read them because they're so fast [TS]

01:16:23 ◼ ► today they're so they they are all [TS]

01:16:24 ◼ ► fiction so they are in fact all may know [TS]

01:16:26 ◼ ► it's not by scott it's not double blind [TS]

01:16:30 ◼ ► so i have a book by a Seattle other [TS]

01:16:34 ◼ ► Seattle author Neal Stephenson being a [TS]

01:16:36 ◼ ► CL other matt rough wrote this book [TS]

01:16:38 ◼ ► called mirage that came out first [TS]

01:16:40 ◼ ► I believe originally in 2011 and went [TS]

01:16:43 ◼ ► into a paperback or doesn't 12 he writes [TS]

01:16:46 ◼ ► relatively few novels he spends years on [TS]

01:16:48 ◼ ► them and mirages again I think it's part [TS]

01:16:50 ◼ ► of my eyelids genre i guess there's a [TS]

01:16:52 ◼ ► Glen John which is the viewing the [TS]

01:16:55 ◼ ► universe through the eyes of other [TS]

01:16:57 ◼ ► cultures so we're not reading the same [TS]

01:16:58 ◼ ► old tropes or the troops have to be [TS]

01:17:00 ◼ ► transformed so cash you know I can [TS]

01:17:03 ◼ ► mirage i can tell you how it opens but I [TS]

01:17:04 ◼ ► don't want to tell you too much about it [TS]

01:17:06 ◼ ► but it's it's earth it's you know this [TS]

01:17:09 ◼ ► time but the greatest power in the world [TS]

01:17:12 ◼ ► is not the United States and say Russia [TS]

01:17:14 ◼ ► it's the United Arab states and their [TS]

01:17:16 ◼ ► you too [TS]

01:17:17 ◼ ► there's some it has detective Scott [TS]

01:17:19 ◼ ► you'd love it [TS]

01:17:20 ◼ ► I have and in 2001 what happened is that [TS]

01:17:23 ◼ ► Christian fundamentalist hijacked [TS]

01:17:26 ◼ ► jetliners and drove and flew them into [TS]

01:17:29 ◼ ► tigris and euphrates World Trade Towers [TS]

01:17:31 ◼ ► and Baghdad into the Arab defence [TS]

01:17:33 ◼ ► ministry and Riyadh so it really imagine [TS]

01:17:35 ◼ ► a world in which when at some point [TS]

01:17:36 ◼ ► something shifted and the Arab world [TS]

01:17:38 ◼ ► wound up as the superpower and sort of [TS]

01:17:41 ◼ ► running things with with the same sorts [TS]

01:17:43 ◼ ► of conflicts that they have today but [TS]

01:17:46 ◼ ► muted because they're in charge the [TS]

01:17:47 ◼ ► sectarian unrest and and so forth and [TS]

01:17:51 ◼ ► United States a bunch of really messed [TS]

01:17:53 ◼ ► up little contingents of fundamentalisms [TS]

01:17:56 ◼ ► and moderates the president is very [TS]

01:17:57 ◼ ► little power it's a sort of a crazy [TS]

01:18:00 ◼ ► place and there's something not quite [TS]

01:18:02 ◼ ► right in this world which is why it's [TS]

01:18:04 ◼ ► called mirage and I want to give away [TS]

01:18:06 ◼ ► too much because it's sort of like a [TS]

01:18:07 ◼ ► break in the world kind of thing and it [TS]

01:18:10 ◼ ► starts to become a parent what's going [TS]

01:18:11 ◼ ► on but it'sit's fantasy he writes these [TS]

01:18:13 ◼ ► these very woods a slightly delightful [TS]

01:18:16 ◼ ► things that even when everything is sort [TS]

01:18:18 ◼ ► of crazy like you know how the [TS]

01:18:20 ◼ ► experimental Stephen similar to steal [TS]

01:18:21 ◼ ► students will have 400 different things [TS]

01:18:23 ◼ ► going on and then at the end there's a [TS]

01:18:25 ◼ ► car crash and you and you don't know [TS]

01:18:26 ◼ ► better than some people walk away and [TS]

01:18:28 ◼ ► summer just left it was a bloody mess [TS]

01:18:30 ◼ ► the meddling like I don't really know [TS]

01:18:31 ◼ ► what happened to your fucking need some [TS]

01:18:33 ◼ ► more ambulances to figure it out and [TS]

01:18:35 ◼ ► doctors please and Matt rough tends to [TS]

01:18:39 ◼ ► bring everything together in a neat [TS]

01:18:41 ◼ ► little wrapper and you may or may not be [TS]

01:18:44 ◼ ► satisfied with it always i think some of [TS]

01:18:46 ◼ ► his novels anyway I'm like all right [TS]

01:18:47 ◼ ► well as a lot of whatever but he's kind [TS]

01:18:49 ◼ ► of a magical realism / more fantasy [TS]

01:18:52 ◼ ► writer than say sci-fi or no realistic [TS]

01:18:55 ◼ ► fiction so I love your gas electric I [TS]

01:18:58 ◼ ► think that's another point people to [TS]

01:18:59 ◼ ► create the other and Rand in a tiny yeah [TS]

01:19:03 ◼ ► in a cube giant mutant sharks and [TS]

01:19:07 ◼ ► shooters and walt disney's the racing [TS]

01:19:10 ◼ ► for the virus and yes yeah 15 bucks is [TS]

01:19:14 ◼ ► crazy and also i'm sorry we're gonna get [TS]

01:19:16 ◼ ► he's a lovely guy lives in Seattle and [TS]

01:19:18 ◼ ► on for a story inside he's really part [TS]

01:19:23 ◼ ► of the glaring at the wedding promise do [TS]

01:19:27 ◼ ► not know any other authors in the thing [TS]

01:19:28 ◼ ► but I i read a fool on the hill was one [TS]

01:19:31 ◼ ► of his earliest race first novel was [TS]

01:19:32 ◼ ► published first and he that was set in [TS]

01:19:35 ◼ ► cornell where my wife went to [TS]

01:19:38 ◼ ► university and she she had and i read it [TS]

01:19:41 ◼ ► and i really love this charming in [TS]

01:19:43 ◼ ► different it it's got a lot of talkin it [TS]

01:19:47 ◼ ► also so if you like Tolkien for the hell [TS]

01:19:49 ◼ ► is kind of neat and anyway so I like [TS]

01:19:51 ◼ ► mirage quite a lot and it i recommend it [TS]

01:19:54 ◼ ► it's a good read it sort of crazy [TS]

01:19:55 ◼ ► because you're reading in your heads [TS]

01:19:56 ◼ ► going yeah because every David crash [TS]

01:19:59 ◼ ► appears and and some people are their [TS]

01:20:04 ◼ ► son-in-law is there of course but you [TS]

01:20:05 ◼ ► have the former leader of Libya Muammar [TS]

01:20:08 ◼ ► Qaddafi is like even the internet of [TS]

01:20:10 ◼ ► course of course cannot be you know it's [TS]

01:20:12 ◼ ► like all of question is the al gore the [TS]

01:20:14 ◼ ► book and anyway it's it's not a romp [TS]

01:20:16 ◼ ► it's pretty serious and very violent [TS]

01:20:18 ◼ ► spots but he somehow manages to make it [TS]

01:20:20 ◼ ► very interesting and charming and also [TS]

01:20:23 ◼ ► liked it comes up you read it i did read [TS]

01:20:26 ◼ ► it you like the good i spoke about it on [TS]

01:20:29 ◼ ► an episode of the uncomfortable is not [TS]

01:20:30 ◼ ► want to yes in fact [TS]

01:20:31 ◼ ► oh thanks for listening Glenn yeah so [TS]

01:20:36 ◼ ► well I'll close up a third-round and [TS]

01:20:38 ◼ ► then what we wanted them done with this [TS]

01:20:39 ◼ ► if you guys have any other you know [TS]

01:20:41 ◼ ► things that we were left that you didn't [TS]

01:20:43 ◼ ► get the pic we can go around you know [TS]

01:20:44 ◼ ► really quickly and you can throw at [TS]

01:20:45 ◼ ► other things to plug if people read all [TS]

01:20:47 ◼ ► of these books they can move on to the [TS]

01:20:51 ◼ ► ancillary auxiliary I don't know [TS]

01:20:53 ◼ ► whatever selections ladies around let me [TS]

01:20:54 ◼ ► close my let me close close this up the [TS]

01:20:57 ◼ ► the main part of this with you said my [TS]

01:21:00 ◼ ► theme is things that aren't really [TS]

01:21:01 ◼ ► science fictional but but uh have some [TS]

01:21:04 ◼ ► sort of tie this is a this is an [TS]

01:21:07 ◼ ► extremely obscure book in that it won [TS]

01:21:11 ◼ ► the purulent surprise whatever but i'm [TS]

01:21:15 ◼ ► going to recommend it because i think [TS]

01:21:16 ◼ ► that i think that there are a lot of [TS]

01:21:17 ◼ ► people out there who listen to us who [TS]

01:21:20 ◼ ► maybe don't we even though it won the [TS]

01:21:23 ◼ ► Pulitzer Prize i'm still gonna recommend [TS]

01:21:25 ◼ ► because I don't know if our listeners [TS]

01:21:27 ◼ ► have read this book and they should it's [TS]

01:21:29 ◼ ► not like they're taking their medicine [TS]

01:21:30 ◼ ► when they read this book okay and if [TS]

01:21:32 ◼ ► it's my theme so i'm also gonna toss it [TS]

01:21:34 ◼ ► in here because it's my favorite The [TS]

01:21:35 ◼ ► Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and clay [TS]

01:21:36 ◼ ► by michael chabon I've i recommended in [TS]

01:21:39 ◼ ► many many many times are going to [TS]

01:21:41 ◼ ► recommend it again its story so it is [TS]

01:21:44 ◼ ► two characters roughly modeled on siegel [TS]

01:21:47 ◼ ► and shuster who were the inventors of [TS]

01:21:49 ◼ ► Superman but it's actually got a [TS]

01:21:51 ◼ ► there-there composites of lots of comic [TS]

01:21:53 ◼ ► book creators from the the forties and [TS]

01:21:56 ◼ ► fifties including Jack Kirby Stanley bob [TS]

01:22:00 ◼ ► kane joe simon so many of those of those [TS]

01:22:03 ◼ ► Golden Age comic book creators it's also [TS]

01:22:06 ◼ ► very much a story of Jewish immigrants [TS]

01:22:08 ◼ ► to New York it's a story world war two [TS]

01:22:11 ◼ ► Hitler's in it Scott and I've read it i [TS]

01:22:14 ◼ ► only the Hitler personally think that [TS]

01:22:17 ◼ ► was right we're gonna get in so much [TS]

01:22:21 ◼ ► trouble someday it so it is it is about [TS]

01:22:24 ◼ ► people like us in that they are nerdy [TS]

01:22:28 ◼ ► kids who have this obsession with these [TS]

01:22:30 ◼ ► stories and the way they tie in kind of [TS]

01:22:33 ◼ ► Jewish stories about things like golems [TS]

01:22:35 ◼ ► and and then tie it into the the stories [TS]

01:22:38 ◼ ► they tell to this broader audience is [TS]

01:22:41 ◼ ► great the effects of the war the effects [TS]

01:22:46 ◼ ► of uh well with a one of the characters [TS]

01:22:50 ◼ ► is gay and so the effects of living that [TS]

01:22:54 ◼ ► life in the nineteen forties and what it [TS]

01:22:56 ◼ ► does what it means about his career and [TS]

01:22:59 ◼ ► about his relations relationships to [TS]

01:23:02 ◼ ► other people who he's close to is is [TS]

01:23:05 ◼ ► great as well and it's fun i have to say [TS]

01:23:08 ◼ ► that it is not only this period surprise [TS]

01:23:10 ◼ ► winning thing I don't want it I just [TS]

01:23:12 ◼ ► feel like people kind of like wow that [TS]

01:23:14 ◼ ► sounds really serious i'm not going to [TS]

01:23:15 ◼ ► read it it's fun it is in many ways a [TS]

01:23:17 ◼ ► celebration of this incredible flowering [TS]

01:23:20 ◼ ► of a really geeky subculture that that [TS]

01:23:23 ◼ ► led to the creation of all of the great [TS]

01:23:26 ◼ ► comic book characters of the 20th [TS]

01:23:28 ◼ ► century a and yet how it was how the the [TS]

01:23:32 ◼ ► Jewish experience in new york city was a [TS]

01:23:34 ◼ ► part of a major part of that and how it [TS]

01:23:36 ◼ ► was affected by world war two and the [TS]

01:23:38 ◼ ► aftermath of world war two and it's all [TS]

01:23:39 ◼ ► wrapped up with with a lot of love [TS]

01:23:42 ◼ ► Siobhan it invents the the escapist [TS]

01:23:45 ◼ ► that's the name of the character that [TS]

01:23:47 ◼ ► they create and then there's some [TS]

01:23:48 ◼ ► wonderful bits there and he's going on [TS]

01:23:50 ◼ ► to actually make some escape as comics [TS]

01:23:53 ◼ ► which I i think i'm in one collection [TS]

01:23:54 ◼ ► kind of wonderful have all of up and [TS]

01:23:57 ◼ ► it's and it's beautiful it is a [TS]

01:23:59 ◼ ► beautiful book that I think a Pete will [TS]

01:24:02 ◼ ► appeal to anybody who reads the kind of [TS]

01:24:04 ◼ ► book [TS]

01:24:04 ◼ ► but we talked about on this on this [TS]

01:24:05 ◼ ► podcast and don't just because he is a a [TS]

01:24:08 ◼ ► a lot adminstrator novelist whose won [TS]

01:24:11 ◼ ► lots of prizes like the people surprised [TS]

01:24:13 ◼ ► he's one of us that's the dirty secret [TS]

01:24:15 ◼ ► that he's finally admitted to now that [TS]

01:24:17 ◼ ► he has won all the prizes and this book [TS]

01:24:20 ◼ ► spoke to me in a way that um I i did not [TS]

01:24:24 ◼ ► expect because I I felt like it really [TS]

01:24:27 ◼ ► was not only things i love these people [TS]

01:24:29 ◼ ► have enthusiasms for things that i love [TS]

01:24:31 ◼ ► to but there you know i could see i [TS]

01:24:34 ◼ ► could see if not see me in them I could [TS]

01:24:38 ◼ ► also see my friends and and you know if [TS]

01:24:40 ◼ ► it was all very familiar to me and and I [TS]

01:24:43 ◼ ► like that a lot so Kavalier and clay i [TS]

01:24:47 ◼ ► know people talk about it a lot you [TS]

01:24:48 ◼ ► should actually read it it's really good [TS]

01:24:51 ◼ ► Scott you've read that one too i have i [TS]

01:24:54 ◼ ► read that was something that was nearly [TS]

01:24:55 ◼ ► one of the thumbs up it was reading [TS]

01:24:57 ◼ ► books tonight i'll save the blending for [TS]

01:24:58 ◼ ► the after dark that ok i saw i saw [TS]

01:25:02 ◼ ► Michael Chabon speak with David Mitchell [TS]

01:25:05 ◼ ► who's the author of the cloud atlas and [TS]

01:25:07 ◼ ► he's a very interesting man in person oh [TS]

01:25:09 ◼ ► yeah now that that was almost one of my [TS]

01:25:11 ◼ ► books tonight and I had a feeling you [TS]

01:25:13 ◼ ► were going to pick it so I just went [TS]

01:25:14 ◼ ► after getting but it's yeah it's [TS]

01:25:16 ◼ ► fantastic and it has possibly my [TS]

01:25:19 ◼ ► favorite ikea joke anywhere [TS]

01:25:22 ◼ ► si si it's not it's not boring at all [TS]

01:25:27 ◼ ► it's got ikea jokes in it it's that [TS]

01:25:30 ◼ ► funny and goal and a golem and I'm glad [TS]

01:25:33 ◼ ► that you you pictures because i think [TS]

01:25:35 ◼ ► you're right that people might be put [TS]

01:25:36 ◼ ► off because of the culture must be [TS]

01:25:38 ◼ ► boring and most boring serious not very [TS]

01:25:40 ◼ ► late exactly it's actually it won the [TS]

01:25:42 ◼ ► Pulitzer despite being a genre in some [TS]

01:25:46 ◼ ► ways novel it was fantastic yeah it's [TS]

01:25:49 ◼ ► like waving off no no prize-winning no [TS]

01:25:51 ◼ ► boring you know know what read it its [TS]

01:25:54 ◼ ► it's great [TS]

01:25:55 ◼ ► he also edited a mix weenies collection [TS]

01:25:57 ◼ ► of really fun shandra pulpy adventure [TS]

01:26:01 ◼ ► books i forget her stories i forget the [TS]

01:26:03 ◼ ► ripping total of its like thrilling [TS]

01:26:05 ◼ ► yarns or the big ass of the treasury of [TS]

01:26:09 ◼ ► thrilling and be there to look it up on [TS]

01:26:11 ◼ ► amazon thrilling [TS]

01:26:12 ◼ ► it's called the mammoth treasury of [TS]

01:26:14 ◼ ► thrilling tales it's quite lengthy [TS]

01:26:15 ◼ ► there's a Zeppelin story a civil war [TS]

01:26:17 ◼ ► zone [TS]

01:26:18 ◼ ► oh yeah are those efforts yes yes so [TS]

01:26:21 ◼ ► it's it's certified that that's him [TS]

01:26:23 ◼ ► doing all the John's in there it's it's [TS]

01:26:25 ◼ ► great fun and anytime I can pick nick [TS]

01:26:27 ◼ ► hornby and michael chabon in the same [TS]

01:26:30 ◼ ► podcast I'm i'm doing pretty good [TS]

01:26:32 ◼ ► because those guys are my those are but [TS]

01:26:34 ◼ ► those are my favs [TS]

01:26:35 ◼ ► those are my two favorites so alright we [TS]

01:26:37 ◼ ► are almost out of time but I want to go [TS]

01:26:39 ◼ ► around and if you have anything left on [TS]

01:26:41 ◼ ► your list that you want to just mention [TS]

01:26:42 ◼ ► briefly now is the time to do it well [TS]

01:26:46 ◼ ► right now I'm reading song of spider-man [TS]

01:26:49 ◼ ► by glenn burger which is the he was the [TS]

01:26:53 ◼ ► original writer of the spider-man turn [TS]

01:26:55 ◼ ► off the dark musical and so this is the [TS]

01:26:58 ◼ ► inside story of working with julie [TS]

01:27:00 ◼ ► taymor Bono and the edge and how it all [TS]

01:27:02 ◼ ► started beautifully and how it all went [TS]

01:27:04 ◼ ► horribly wrong and the thing that's [TS]

01:27:06 ◼ ► amazing about it is not that it's that [TS]

01:27:09 ◼ ► story it's that it's really defensive [TS]

01:27:11 ◼ ► it's really kind of odd and I don't [TS]

01:27:14 ◼ ► think he realizes quite how he comes off [TS]

01:27:17 ◼ ► in it its proper really interesting [TS]

01:27:19 ◼ ► America do you have any extras i do two [TS]

01:27:22 ◼ ► quickies and fiction and nonfiction the [TS]

01:27:24 ◼ ► fiction is another Lloyd biggle junior [TS]

01:27:26 ◼ ► book the one I didn't pick it's called [TS]

01:27:27 ◼ ► all the colors of darkness and turn 1963 [TS]

01:27:30 ◼ ► so little earlier than the other one [TS]

01:27:32 ◼ ► it is a science fiction private eye [TS]

01:27:35 ◼ ► detective story about the invention of [TS]

01:27:37 ◼ ► teleportation so it's pretty cool it's [TS]

01:27:40 ◼ ► very simple and quick and fun and I like [TS]

01:27:42 ◼ ► it and the non-fiction book is of course [TS]

01:27:45 ◼ ► another doctor who book which just came [TS]

01:27:47 ◼ ► out this year for the 50th anniversary [TS]

01:27:48 ◼ ► it's called whose 5250 Doctor Who [TS]

01:27:51 ◼ ► stories to watch before you die and i'm [TS]

01:27:54 ◼ ► about halfway through it and parts [TS]

01:27:56 ◼ ► parceling it out in little nuggets to [TS]

01:27:58 ◼ ► myself because it going through one [TS]

01:27:59 ◼ ► story every day and I'm loving it so [TS]

01:28:01 ◼ ► much to authors Graham Burke and robert [TS]

01:28:04 ◼ ► smith ? he added a ? to his name yes [TS]

01:28:07 ◼ ► lead on because there are a lot of [TS]

01:28:09 ◼ ► Robert Smith out there so you had a [TS]

01:28:10 ◼ ► question mark and that separates you [TS]

01:28:12 ◼ ► from the rest of the guys but they kind [TS]

01:28:15 ◼ ► of are you back and forth with each [TS]

01:28:17 ◼ ► other about the stories sometimes they [TS]

01:28:18 ◼ ► agree sometimes they don't gives a lot [TS]

01:28:20 ◼ ► of interesting details in addition to [TS]

01:28:23 ◼ ► kind of a review is sort of thing but [TS]

01:28:25 ◼ ► there's some trivia and it's it's [TS]

01:28:28 ◼ ► fascinating in a really fun quick read [TS]

01:28:30 ◼ ► Scott you got anything [TS]

01:28:31 ◼ ► i will pick no not one of the few no [TS]

01:28:34 ◼ ► picking on you just can't just throw [TS]

01:28:36 ◼ ► things out now this doesn't come LOL i [TS]

01:28:38 ◼ ► will i will suggest my phone is actually [TS]

01:28:41 ◼ ► my list i marked as bonus so it has [TS]

01:28:43 ◼ ► almost picture one of the few [TS]

01:28:44 ◼ ► non-fiction books i read this year a [TS]

01:28:46 ◼ ► cartridge must be destroyed which is [TS]

01:28:49 ◼ ► about as you might expect the city of [TS]

01:28:52 ◼ ► Carthage and its relationship with Rome [TS]

01:28:53 ◼ ► Cato the Elder there's the this famous [TS]

01:28:57 ◼ ► story the Cato the Elder when he spoke [TS]

01:28:59 ◼ ► at the Roman Senate he would end every [TS]

01:29:01 ◼ ► speech no matter what he was talking [TS]

01:29:02 ◼ ► about with the phrase cartridge must be [TS]

01:29:04 ◼ ► destroyed because he just hated the city [TS]

01:29:07 ◼ ► of Carthage as fascinating book it goes [TS]

01:29:10 ◼ ► into y Carthage was such a threat to the [TS]

01:29:13 ◼ ► Roman world and kind of questions if it [TS]

01:29:15 ◼ ► actually was or not and how without [TS]

01:29:18 ◼ ► Carthage there could be no Roman Empire [TS]

01:29:20 ◼ ► because the the Romans kind of [TS]

01:29:22 ◼ ► inexplicable hatred of cartridge really [TS]

01:29:24 ◼ ► fueled their whole desire to build this [TS]

01:29:27 ◼ ► great army and these roads and and [TS]

01:29:29 ◼ ► everything so it's a fascinating book [TS]

01:29:30 ◼ ► Glenn what do you have [TS]

01:29:32 ◼ ► well I just thought of this when you [TS]

01:29:32 ◼ ► mention Kavalier and clay there's a book [TS]

01:29:34 ◼ ► that is it's not exactly like it's a [TS]

01:29:37 ◼ ► sleeper book i wonder if I've mentioned [TS]

01:29:38 ◼ ► it before Carter beats the dance like [TS]

01:29:40 ◼ ► Len Davis world this is a fine he's a [TS]

01:29:43 ◼ ► kid he's on Twitter posts like at three [TS]

01:29:46 ◼ ► hundred day intervals and he piped up [TS]

01:29:48 ◼ ► about something i said like six months [TS]

01:29:50 ◼ ► ago responded two i think as i was [TS]

01:29:53 ◼ ► mentioning his book and I cited inside [TS]

01:29:54 ◼ ► twitter account it's a book about a [TS]

01:29:57 ◼ ► magician and it has uh it's just I think [TS]

01:29:59 ◼ ► it's one of the I think it's fantastic [TS]

01:30:02 ◼ ► total sleeper never broke out in which i [TS]

01:30:05 ◼ ► believe Kavalier and clay came out not [TS]

01:30:07 ◼ ► long after and I think it might have [TS]

01:30:08 ◼ ► gotten lost in the show there's a [TS]

01:30:10 ◼ ► magician angle to this and it's michael [TS]

01:30:12 ◼ ► chabon it went out of control so I don't [TS]

01:30:15 ◼ ► know but it's a great book [TS]

01:30:16 ◼ ► the other thing I was gonna mention is [TS]

01:30:17 ◼ ► another nonfiction that I really struck [TS]

01:30:19 ◼ ► me this year disappearance of darkness [TS]

01:30:21 ◼ ► by Robert early which is about the end [TS]

01:30:24 ◼ ► of the making of analog film and it's a [TS]

01:30:26 ◼ ► book of wonderful photographs that I [TS]

01:30:28 ◼ ► went out and shot with large format [TS]

01:30:30 ◼ ► photographic film which is Messier and [TS]

01:30:32 ◼ ► he said when he started it was sort of [TS]

01:30:36 ◼ ► normal to be shooting with that side its [TS]

01:30:37 ◼ ► kind of film a few years ago for the [TS]

01:30:39 ◼ ► architectural stuff that he often did [TS]

01:30:40 ◼ ► and by the end he said I was like a [TS]

01:30:42 ◼ ► blacksmith carrying around bellows [TS]

01:30:44 ◼ ► it's just the transition was so fast at [TS]

01:30:47 ◼ ► the high end and he he managed to our [TS]

01:30:50 ◼ ► lives in Toronto teaches up there and he [TS]

01:30:52 ◼ ► went out to the implosion of some kodak [TS]

01:30:54 ◼ ► factories and round up essentially [TS]

01:30:56 ◼ ► documenting the implosion and [TS]

01:30:58 ◼ ► destruction shutdown of photographic [TS]

01:31:00 ◼ ► film factories around the world and it's [TS]

01:31:01 ◼ ► a it's both sad and interesting lovely a [TS]

01:31:05 ◼ ► great stocking stuffer this book full of [TS]

01:31:07 ◼ ► buildings imploding I think everyone [TS]

01:31:09 ◼ ► should have in their stocking for [TS]

01:31:10 ◼ ► christmas who loves film or imploding [TS]

01:31:13 ◼ ► buildings look it's got a lot of lotion [TS]

01:31:15 ◼ ► one of those Jason do you have any last [TS]

01:31:18 ◼ ► it's down to me yes the things that were [TS]

01:31:19 ◼ ► left on the cutting room floor both of [TS]

01:31:22 ◼ ► which i think i have at least mentioned [TS]

01:31:23 ◼ ► in passing on past podcast so i'll [TS]

01:31:24 ◼ ► mention the main task again that's all [TS]

01:31:27 ◼ ► again they know what they did [TS]

01:31:30 ◼ ► always a bridesmaid never but I know [TS]

01:31:32 ◼ ► inherit the stars by James P Hogan 80 a [TS]

01:31:36 ◼ ► book that i love it is a very strange [TS]

01:31:39 ◼ ► book about it's it's a sort of simply [TS]

01:31:43 ◼ ► written 1970 sci-fi novel written when [TS]

01:31:45 ◼ ► he was an engineer at digital equipment [TS]

01:31:47 ◼ ► corporation he made a bet about that he [TS]

01:31:49 ◼ ► could make a that he could read a sci-fi [TS]

01:31:51 ◼ ► novel and get it published and he won [TS]

01:31:53 ◼ ► the BET and insect it's kind of a [TS]

01:31:55 ◼ ► classic it is a little dated but it's [TS]

01:31:57 ◼ ► such a great premise which is there some [TS]

01:32:00 ◼ ► astronauts on the moon and they're [TS]

01:32:01 ◼ ► walking along and they find a dead body [TS]

01:32:03 ◼ ► and they don't know where this dead body [TS]

01:32:07 ◼ ► could possibly have come from because [TS]

01:32:09 ◼ ► they're on the moon and the answer that [TS]

01:32:12 ◼ ► they come up with is shocking and cool [TS]

01:32:15 ◼ ► so it's just a fun it's a fun read and I [TS]

01:32:18 ◼ ► i met him hehe died recently but I met [TS]

01:32:20 ◼ ► who useful in my hometown and it's a [TS]

01:32:21 ◼ ► great coup insulin book chasing yeah [TS]

01:32:24 ◼ ► that was some isn't letting their i [TS]

01:32:27 ◼ ► bought a copy of that book for a dollar [TS]

01:32:28 ◼ ► based on Jason's recommendation you read [TS]

01:32:31 ◼ ► it [TS]

01:32:31 ◼ ► no okay but you probably think that my [TS]

01:32:34 ◼ ► had alright got zero sense for that's a [TS]

01:32:36 ◼ ► fun it's a fun fun fun book and then the [TS]

01:32:40 ◼ ► other book i'll recommend is the first [TS]

01:32:42 ◼ ► in a series they are i think in print [TS]

01:32:46 ◼ ► but hard to find but i would say seek [TS]

01:32:49 ◼ ► them out [TS]

01:32:50 ◼ ► jim lehrer who you may know is the [TS]

01:32:52 ◼ ► co-anchor of the PBS Newshour for many [TS]

01:32:54 ◼ ► many years wrote a series of course [TS]

01:32:57 ◼ ► easy novels set in Oklahoma starting a [TS]

01:33:01 ◼ ► character called the one-eyed Mac who [TS]

01:33:03 ◼ ► ends up is the lieutenant governor of [TS]

01:33:05 ◼ ► Oklahoma although he starts off as a bus [TS]

01:33:08 ◼ ► pirate speaking of pirates higher up [TS]

01:33:10 ◼ ► again and I plus pirate because the gym [TS]

01:33:13 ◼ ► later our house in Oklahoma there are no [TS]

01:33:16 ◼ ► ships but there are buses so he could [TS]

01:33:18 ◼ ► become a bus pirate the first book is [TS]

01:33:21 ◼ ► called kick-the-can I think he wrote 6 1 [TS]

01:33:23 ◼ ► i'd Mac novels he does end up crown [TS]

01:33:25 ◼ ► Oklahoma is the second one he ends up as [TS]

01:33:28 ◼ ► lieutenant governor of Oklahoma they are [TS]

01:33:30 ◼ ► their wacky in the same way if anybody's [TS]

01:33:33 ◼ ► read it Winston groom wrote forrest gump [TS]

01:33:36 ◼ ► the novel it's like that it's funny and [TS]

01:33:40 ◼ ► weird and you would never expect mr. PBS [TS]

01:33:43 ◼ ► anchorman to necessarily be the guy [TS]

01:33:44 ◼ ► writing these crazy colorful hilarious [TS]

01:33:47 ◼ ► novels but they're they're great and [TS]

01:33:51 ◼ ► funny and weird and I wish they were [TS]

01:33:52 ◼ ► more widely available but i did i do [TS]

01:33:55 ◼ ► think somebody put them back in print a [TS]

01:33:57 ◼ ► few years ago and so there they are [TS]

01:33:59 ◼ ► available kick McCann is the first one [TS]

01:34:01 ◼ ► and they're just they're there who there [TS]

01:34:03 ◼ ► kick their sweet and funny and strange [TS]

01:34:05 ◼ ► and and lots of wild you know things [TS]

01:34:09 ◼ ► that he describes that are happening in [TS]

01:34:11 ◼ ► these very strange little towns in [TS]

01:34:12 ◼ ► Oklahoma [TS]

01:34:13 ◼ ► oh yeah so kick the can is my those are [TS]

01:34:15 ◼ ► just delightful oh my god good somebody [TS]

01:34:18 ◼ ► else I've never even found people have [TS]

01:34:19 ◼ ► ready and I think nobody ever even heard [TS]

01:34:20 ◼ ► of them but they're great they're [TS]

01:34:21 ◼ ► hilarious similar alright that's it [TS]

01:34:24 ◼ ► we're done if you if you don't have [TS]

01:34:26 ◼ ► anything to read if you're sitting there [TS]

01:34:28 ◼ ► moaning to yourself and you're like I [TS]

01:34:30 ◼ ► don't know what to read anymore [TS]

01:34:31 ◼ ► ok we look we can we've done all we can [TS]

01:34:35 ◼ ► we have we have provided you with if you [TS]

01:34:37 ◼ ► count the extras it's like more than 20 [TS]

01:34:39 ◼ ► books for you to read so pick something [TS]

01:34:41 ◼ ► out [TS]

01:34:42 ◼ ► I hope something sounded good put it on [TS]

01:34:44 ◼ ► your wish list go out and buy it [TS]

01:34:46 ◼ ► visit your local library and check one [TS]

01:34:48 ◼ ► out whatever however you want to do it [TS]

01:34:50 ◼ ► we've got a lot of great ideas they're [TS]

01:34:52 ◼ ► all over the place a lot of books I've [TS]

01:34:54 ◼ ► never heard of before which is very [TS]

01:34:55 ◼ ► exciting to me because I'm gonna go put [TS]

01:34:57 ◼ ► them on my list too so i think we have [TS]

01:35:00 ◼ ► done our jobs for now and so I'm going [TS]

01:35:03 ◼ ► to thank my guests for their excellent [TS]

01:35:05 ◼ ► excellent choices really kind of blows [TS]

01:35:08 ◼ ► me away [TS]

01:35:08 ◼ ► we'll go in order so [TS]

01:35:10 ◼ ► it starts off with the four-letter word [TS]

01:35:11 ◼ ► Lisa it's a good word hit me like it and [TS]

01:35:20 ◼ ► I could be substituted for squares now [TS]

01:35:22 ◼ ► that's bull Issa thank you i had a lot [TS]

01:35:29 ◼ ► of fun tonight i'm looking forward to [TS]

01:35:31 ◼ ► reading a lot of everyone else's pics [TS]

01:35:32 ◼ ► yeah yeah absolutely [TS]

01:35:34 ◼ ► David Laura thank you very much thank [TS]

01:35:36 ◼ ► you i have actually been doing some book [TS]

01:35:38 ◼ ► shopping while we were talking [TS]

01:35:39 ◼ ► mmm yes this podcast cost you 50 that is [TS]

01:35:43 ◼ ► the side effect of these everything [TS]

01:35:45 ◼ ► Erica and sign thank you for coming back [TS]

01:35:48 ◼ ► on thank you so much for having me again [TS]

01:35:50 ◼ ► i have been so kind of woefully out of [TS]

01:35:52 ◼ ► the loop and reading lately but you guys [TS]

01:35:54 ◼ ► I think of have managed to take me back [TS]

01:35:56 ◼ ► into gear and getting back on the horse [TS]

01:35:57 ◼ ► so many books [TS]

01:35:59 ◼ ► yeah so many books Scott McNulty so many [TS]

01:36:02 ◼ ► books I i find it difficult to read on a [TS]

01:36:06 ◼ ► horse but that's what America more power [TS]

01:36:09 ◼ ► to you that's what they do in Canada [TS]

01:36:10 ◼ ► actually there's a lot of course I don't [TS]

01:36:12 ◼ ► understand can read on a moose in canada [TS]

01:36:14 ◼ ► the Mounties know the Mounties that's [TS]

01:36:16 ◼ ► why they're mounted as they are reading [TS]

01:36:17 ◼ ► other will see they always get their [TS]

01:36:19 ◼ ► boat helps me improve my balance [TS]

01:36:20 ◼ ► Glenn fleischmann thank you thank you [TS]

01:36:22 ◼ ► very much i'm saving up my cleansing for [TS]

01:36:25 ◼ ► next year I'll be have a whole new set [TS]

01:36:28 ◼ ► of cleaning to bring in to this fine [TS]

01:36:29 ◼ ► company i got a signal and actually your [TS]

01:36:31 ◼ ► choices this dish year were were all [TS]

01:36:33 ◼ ► sort of like lucid and sensible your [TS]

01:36:36 ◼ ► choices the last time work or not [TS]

01:36:38 ◼ ► so what does admit I'm a little [TS]

01:36:39 ◼ ► disappointed that you didn't pick up i [TS]

01:36:42 ◼ ► believe last in the last one we actually [TS]

01:36:44 ◼ ► you pick will you pick that philip k [TS]

01:36:46 ◼ ► dick galactic pot healer and you know [TS]

01:36:47 ◼ ► you really even begin you picked like a [TS]

01:36:49 ◼ ► totally other book and instead or this [TS]

01:36:51 ◼ ► other one that's my pic instead and it [TS]

01:36:53 ◼ ► was very confusing and yeah so thank you [TS]

01:36:55 ◼ ► for for playing by the rules this time I [TS]

01:36:57 ◼ ► appreciate try to be less listen next [TS]

01:36:58 ◼ ► time sorry [TS]

01:36:59 ◼ ► all is forgiven and thanks everybody out [TS]

01:37:01 ◼ ► there for listing we hope we've given [TS]

01:37:02 ◼ ► you some great ideas for books to read [TS]

01:37:04 ◼ ► or put on your holiday list or hour or [TS]

01:37:07 ◼ ► something I don't know or or whatever [TS]

01:37:09 ◼ ► you want to do read the books read the [TS]

01:37:10 ◼ ► books that's our message we got lots of [TS]

01:37:12 ◼ ► good books out there you should read [TS]

01:37:13 ◼ ► them and until next time for the [TS]

01:37:16 ◼ ► comfortable and everybody here I've been [TS]

01:37:18 ◼ ► your host Jason still see you later [TS]

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