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from george saunders New York Times
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bestselling author of 10th December
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comes linkin in the Bardo his
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long-awaited first novel featuring none
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other than Abraham Lincoln a moving
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father-son story lincoln in the Bardo
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breaks free of its historical framework
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into a supernatural realm both hilarious
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and terrifying on sale now published by
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Random House available wherever books
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are sold
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the incomparable number 304 d everywhere
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e27 routine welcome everybody to be
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uncomfortable we are continuing our
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journey through the films of hayao
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miyazaki and this episode is going to be
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about 1986 'as castle in the sky lap
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utah i am joining i'm jason still as
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always I'm floating in a castle in the
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sky suspended merely by the power of a
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crystal joining me here are a collection
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of moss-covered robots led by Steve
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let's hi Steve I'm in love with you
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hello Merlin Mann make your shirt
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explode
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oh no John siracusa based on some of the
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other panelists introductions I'm
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thinking some puss may have listened to
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the dub that's pretty quite possible i
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don't recognize that those are cheaters
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no I read the read the subs playing sims
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here hello hello and Erica and sign one
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for all and all for Mom
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Oh mom little mom mama mama in Japanese
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she's mama and not mom I discovered that
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this time anybody have any opening
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statements John siracusa have a
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statement about the opening the other
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thing that I do that so that's pretty
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why don't we start there because if you
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don't have any opening statements then
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the next thing to do is talk about the
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opening of the film so that's pretty
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much what a reasonable an opening
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statement
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yeah go ahead John time pretty sure I
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talked about the opening of this movie
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in other episodes of incompetent maybe
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uh the miyazaki survey course that we
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did ya the only two persons episode of
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the incomparable ever you and me John
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refresh our memory from episode 22 or
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whatever that is it was the incomparable
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number 84 March 2012 the opening of this
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movie is my second favorite Opening
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second to the Gnostic opening and it is
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very similar to it
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this movie is very so much Monica in
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many superficial ways and that this it
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opens with an action sequence and then
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there are there's a montage with a
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stylized sort of not title cards but
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like animations that are done in a
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different style than the rest of the
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movie and writing way that you have that
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you have that montage animation in the
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beginning of hours ago and you get the
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the theme music from the movie playing
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over it and i love that I love the sort
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of i'm going to give you background on
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the world wordlessly with some music but
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this one book ends it with the action
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sequence in the beginning which is you
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know frames this movie well and says
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this is going to be this is the kind of
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movie this is going to be and of course
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our hero falls from the airship and then
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the montage plays and then when the
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montage is over they cut back to our
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hero still falling because of course you
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still falling we saw her fall and a
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rather than say a and she falls for
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death like nope she's still falling
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she's unconscious and she's dropping
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through this guy which i think is one of
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the most dramatic sort of reveals and
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interest to the movie and it's brave and
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interesting and it's something you
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normally don't see like it even if they
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were going to have the hero fall in the
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pre credit sequence in a more
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conventional movie especially an
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animated one you would resume to find
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her on the ground you not sure how she
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got there or at the moment with the
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crystal reveal rather than just showing
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the seemingly lifeless in artbody
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hurdling downwards which is straight
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down headfirst right which is very
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dramatic for an animated kids filming I
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think overall this movie has shown that
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is very opening sequence dances on this
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weird line between cartoon physics and
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cartoon violence no you know where
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there's lots of shooting and guns and
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they're pirates and they're slightly
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comical but they're using realistic
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weapons and there's a little bit of an
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edge of danger it's like
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three steps of GI joe where everybody
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Jax just in time and nobody actually
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gets hit by bullets but it's it's a it's
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like a realistic and the drawings are
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all realistic so I think the opening
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this movie definitely sets the tone for
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it and is one of my favorite things and
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i think i may like the opening better
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than the rest of this entire movie
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combined so we just sit here and dwell
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on that for a while i agree with
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everything John said except for the
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unfortunate fact that we start with the
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Pirates and therefore we get joe
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hisaishi she's pirate theme which is
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really not good
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it's unbelievably eighties very kind of
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jarring synth music and it's possible to
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have synth music that has kind of an
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epic feel to it that feels lush and this
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particular theme does not it's a it's
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it's kind of a dull thud of a music cue
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which is unfortunate because all the the
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orchestral stuff with the opening theme
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and everything else is really beautiful
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and well done and this just sticks out
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like a sore thumb and unfortunately it
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opens up the movie also your first
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impression of this film is as I wrote in
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my notes a clown and some guys and
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jumpsuits takeover Zeppelin it's got my
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castle kali-aastra kind of feel to it
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and no we haven't done that one yet but
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it's in that vein of like sort of
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nineteen thirties or forties stylized
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cartoon-like all the characters they
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look more or less human but they sort of
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do squashes and stretches if they're
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learning to his characters in many
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regards like even when the door is
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bursting in when they come to the door
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the door bends and bulges in a cartoony
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way but then shatters into
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realistic-looking fragments is weird
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that the end is weird balance between if
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you take any individual grip frame like
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this is a realistically animated movie
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but if you happen to catch them in the
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middle of one of their cartoon physics
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things it's it's strange the Pirates are
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the same way they are both brandishing
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semi-realistic guns with bullets in them
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but totally comical and the the audio
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impression that I get yes the Pirates a
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goofy and you have that that stuff in
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the beginning but the sound that opens
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the film and the theme i think that
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opens the film is yeah basically
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miyazaki love flying machines flying
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machines make weird noises like this one
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the rhythmic buzzing and whining of
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their strange bird looking ship and the
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the little insect things they're flying
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on this could not be more miyazaki you
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know like it's just very wacky yeah my
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first note is all airships all the time
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yeah so true so true um I love that
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opening sequence i love the woodcut kind
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of style of it i think it's not only is
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the music good but I i just love how the
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whole thing looks I could watch that
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again and again on its own because I
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think it's really beautiful and I and
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I'm a sucker for that kind of like
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change in art style an animated movie
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and and that's a great one
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I love the I love the whole opening
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sequence it's beautiful now I assume the
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change in art style is because we're
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seeing kind of a montage of what has
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come before least that's what I got out
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of that the image shown there's that
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that's the build-up to the building of
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LA and and the end is they have returned
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to Earth on their giant spaceship which
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looks like it crashed and there's tons
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and tons of people streaming out and
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then we're back to the pastoral scene
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only now it's sheets standing out there
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with her weird mole creature instead of
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the previous guy
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yeah wraps around because they show in
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the beginning they start off they
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figured out they can make windmills that
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are very basic and used to pump water
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from the ground and that it progresses
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where they start you know putting
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propellers on propellers and you know
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culminating with the most ridiculous
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giant propeller underneath the floating
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city and all these cities are floating
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around and look at what we've done but
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then of course calamity and the forces
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of nature and or war force them back to
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the ground and in the end they're back
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where they started or just a sense they
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needed to return to the earth because of
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course man is indelibly attached to the
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rocks in the early yeah well it shows
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like all that you know the lightning and
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the storms and stuff like that but they
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end up back where they started which is
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now you know what was once known was
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lost to set this is such a classic
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premise for things like there was the
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the old world and great advancement and
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they flew too close to the Sun and there
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and now you know none now live there
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remember it so it's over we're back to
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back to that single propeller only knows
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there's a little girl there and think
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like like the Star Wars crawl it gets a
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lot of expedition out of the way only
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without even using words and sets up the
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whole world so you can just cut right
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back to the store and say okay now I see
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where we are and back to the phone girl
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the only problem that is it took me two
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viewings to realize that that was the
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before times that I was seeing
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yeah it just appeared to be images of
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sky technology which we had already seen
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quite a bit of so you know there was no
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real reason to not assume that that was
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just present time you got my attention
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is a progression it's like the montage
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in journey in the game journey it's
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almost the same time on tosh brand new i
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had had seen now she has so many times
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that that's it's the same same kind of
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thing I mean it's not exactly a woodcut
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but it's giving you sort of that the
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history so as soon as this started I was
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like oh I see I see where this is going
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alright and paying attention the other
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thing i like most about the opening and
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it's actually for the thing I like most
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about the first half hour of the of the
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movie is the way it kind of toys with
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your assumptions because the first time
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through I just sort of assumed that the
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the man that she was traveling within
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the glasses was her father and the
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Pirates were straight up the bad guys
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and I didn't notice the subtle touches
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like how she's refusing her dinner yeah
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he puts the plate towards her and she
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just turns the head he shoves look very
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subtle animation again in a movie where
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things get completely cartoonish very
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soon and even that same scene and when
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she constant with the bottle i just
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she's shocked him and knock him out
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that she is afraid of the guy when he
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very well done and and and more
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effective than perhaps it was to anybody
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else because i'm an idiot talking about
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sheet for a second because it you know
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within the miyazaki heroines are not so
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popular a lot of movies you watch and
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this one the first couple times I watch
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I always felt mildly disappointed that
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she was that the Delete in this one
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is it's kind of a split type thing i'm
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not sure you can see the lead but she
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does our main character but she is
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immediately you know falling to her
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seeming death but on a subsequent
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viewings i watched I've seen that she
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does she actually does most of the
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things that heroin does is just like Oh
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heroin in the movie like her little
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friend so she's she's prisoner and can't
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do much about it when she sees a chance
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to free herself from her situation she
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takes initiative and consummate the
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bottle then she's brave by going out the
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window but she's also located and
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miscalculate sand falls and so that that
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all fits and then she has to be carried
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by pot soup down and you know she ends
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up unconscious for a long period of time
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but as the movie progresses in and now
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my 900 you doing
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I was taking note of when is she being
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swept along by them by the plot and when
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is she doing something making a decision
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and advancing the story or at least
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deciding her own fade rather than having
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the events of the movie decide for and
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I've come around a little bit to
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thinking that she's not as sort of
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cookie cutter damsel as I originally
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thought she was other thing i noticed
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watching it I'm really watches in
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earnest in 45 years and I think this is
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true of most miyazaki movies but this is
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a great example our is you know we've
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talked before about how difficult it is
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to know when and where this is supposed
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to be the only thing I usually feel with
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some certainty easy things are usually
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not in the future I don't know if
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they're in the past but you know the
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combination the dick different
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technologies you know the wackadoo
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outfits that people have this feels very
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steampunk to me
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sialic steampunk whales so you know but
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it's like it it opens but it opens with
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this almost James Bond beginning when
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you think about the way she's falling
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and I guess I just feel like it's I'm
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realizing more and more how draw him how
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do i am to win these things start like I
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don't want to miss a single detail of
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what's happening because not only trying
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to figure out who's who who's good who's
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bad guy you know what I mean what the
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relationships are but you know I'm
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thinking about what you know where this
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is what parts of this is the magical
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and I i think these movies and the
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course it's just visually stunning and
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maybe on top of it all like I don't
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think this looks like it's from 1986
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it's that's the other thing these movies
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it's very difficult for me to tell you
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from my parents what order these were
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made in and kind of out of time
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yeah yeah it is but i think that that
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conflict different things and you know
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as circuses talked about so many times
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before like you know sometimes things
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from different countries and cultures
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are just they're interesting because
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they are so different but in this case
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like why are these guys wearing like
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hoods and ballet slippers and what's
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happening and I'm feeling that meeting
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that especially attenuates my interest
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in what's going on i pay super duper
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amounts of attention in a way that i may
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not with with other kinds of movies
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that's part of why that supremely
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eighties pirates theme is so
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disappointing to me because it really
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kind of drops the the action right into
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a specific time period and I'm
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intimately aware that it's 1986 whenever
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that plays I'm happy without awareness
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and i like that you had in mind that I
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it having not seen a whole lot of
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miyazaki and the few ones that I had
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things that I had seen kind of thinking
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that maybe it just do it wasn't for me
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if I didn't dislike anything I'd seen I
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just hadn't enjoyed it except for now
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and I was thinking maybe that was just a
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an outlier and that was just the only 1i
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liked this was the first time that I
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watched castle in the sky and when it
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started it i was just immediately swept
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up in it felt like sort of coming home
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it felt like putting on a warm blanket
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like this all just sort of feels right
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all the things you guys have talked
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about so far and then it wasn't tell I
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don't know just a little bit earlier
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today and i watch this yesterday that I
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realized why it felt so comforting and
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it was because it reminded me an awful
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lot of a series called Nadia the secret
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of blue water which starts out with the
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mysterious the are young girl with a
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mysterious past who has a jeweled
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necklace that some sort of wacky since
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the sort of wacky they're not pirates I
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remember exactly what they are but
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they're a wacky crew of people that are
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somewhat funny trying to trying to catch
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her and she meets a young boy was trying
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to invent an airplane and they go on
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these adventures only to discover today
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that it was written by miyazaki so no
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surprise but I love Nadia so all of
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those pieces sort of came together
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um and and and it just made me feel kind
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of at home and it's it's very it's a
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little more fantastical than nadia is
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not yet gets weird because it ends up
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being 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
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whereas I think this i now prefer castle
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in the sky because it's a little a
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little less goofball later on I wanted
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to get back to what John was saying
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about sheet a kind of being mildly
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disappointing because it doesn't seem
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like she has a whole lot of agency
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although she does indeed make several
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moves that that are the heroic moves but
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and I think a lot of the disappointment
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that is is just in contrast to the the
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strong female protagonist that have been
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another miyazaki films I mean she kind
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of stands out in that respect but I i
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think a lot of that is just because I
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mean this whole thing is so much just a
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like a boy's adventure tale like a
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treasure island except with airplanes
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really sure and it's so much from
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positive perspective I mean he's he's
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he's an orphan sure but he's got this
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cool pad was able to build this pencil
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and pad ever
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yeah and then this really beautiful girl
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just descends from the sky and lands in
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his arms and he's able to save her and
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then anything adventure and they fall
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into some done mining tunnels but
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they're not really that scary because
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they brought sandwiches and then uncle
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palm shows up and uncle tom is this
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school is happy guys buddy and and then
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they join the Pirates and then there's a
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giant robot and you know so much of it
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is just from that perspective that I
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think I think she kind of gets lost in
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in in the mix but on the other hand
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really the only character in this thing
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that is a complex fully-formed character
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is dola who is a wonderful character yet
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and very very nuanced so I think that
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someone makes up for it
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yeah the speaking a bed that opening
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sequence with his house and her finding
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it like they spent so much movie so much
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time and music he always says he'll
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spend all the time in the world just
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establishing atmosphere and whimsy like
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pot to fixing the Machine getting
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meatballs for his boss the unconscious
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she is up top and he's running around
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doing his job
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you know you learn that you know that
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he's a kid he's gotta work he's gotta
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work hard everyone else is gone home the
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economy's not that you have the miners
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are talking comin up in the elevator and
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all that about
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gonna run out of stuff in the mine yeah
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learn to work the break then he goes
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back to his house and it's all foggy in
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the morning and he lets the dogs out in
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places trumpet minutes later the
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whimsies just coming onto your head is
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like unbelievable do you think the town
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appreciates that trumpet playing by the
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way or do they hate the orphan on the
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well that's why they sent him to the
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hill yeah and take your trumpet with you
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and his job he jumps off with the
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crystalline like here's the thing about
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these two characters like they're you
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know this is an adventure movie and the
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characters aren't that complicated but
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for a good character the traits of the
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characters have pots mashita they are
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good-natured like chill people basically
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like that they're both of their
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personalities he's a bit of a goofball
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she's generally nice they both have grit
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and determination but neither one of
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them has the complicated character flaws
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of I mean I guess I have an older person
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I suppose right they they both have the
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naivete of children at which is probably
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appropriate but they didn't need one of
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them are are like even is complicated
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and have as much of an inner world is
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for example key who I think it's just
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supposed to be a little bit older but I
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get a Kiki vibe from this beginning part
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because of the amount of time they spend
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dwelling on the deep the mundane details
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of their life of you know their house
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and the breakfast and the trumpets and
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the doves and feeding them and just they
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spend a lot of time here and that that
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gives me the warm fuzzies because he is
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basically an entire movie of that right
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and this is this is a nice sort of
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interlude between the big dramatic
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falling from the airship to two tanks
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driving down train tracks and falling
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into a giant pit you know like it says
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this has a nice roller case roller
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coaster in terms of the the wacky action
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and then the interludes retargeting no
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palm and and that the rocks are lighting
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out there's there's another part that is
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I think it runs through somewhat through
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the movies which is obviously it's a
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movie there's events we are we are
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seeing the action happening and part of
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that is the pacing the storytelling all
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that kind of stuff that you think about
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a lot of the characters especially the
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their life is like all the time when
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they're not doing that action
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you might imagine a pretty lonely kid if
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you think about really just a whole lot
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of the characters and in this case these
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are two kids that that were probably you
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know the pretty lonely and you know you
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know what it's like when you make a
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friend and now you know you're looking
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out for that person and if there's
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something you know it something you know
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kind of sweet and organic about that and
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then again also maybe a little bit
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melancholy I I'm could be a little off
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base here but i think i think a lot of
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his characters if you imagine them in
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their repose would probably just spent a
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lot of time ruminating and feeling a
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little bit alone and it's nice to see
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people come together like that you know
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with common cause that's what I like
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about shita and pots are working
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together is that it feels more like I
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don't know you know more fairy tale-like
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but it's where there's a boy and a girl
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almost right there kind of lost it on
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their own and they have to take care of
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themselves and their team and yeah they
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go off and do some different things and
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she gets taken because she's the key to
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this because she's royalty she gets
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taken away and pops who has to have his
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little daring do but i do feel like
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they're a team and that's one of the
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things I like about it is that they're
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there on equal footing also by the way
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if you listen to the dubbed version
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english dub the voices of pots to and
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Sheeta are much older sounding than they
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are in japanese version so i think the
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right way to look at them is that
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they're pretty young married there maybe
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even not just a little younger than key
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they're a lot younger than key these are
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fairly young kids that was the same
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issue I had with nasik aware where
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suddenly she jumped from like a
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thirteen-year-old girl to a
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seventeen-year-old girl
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yeah i mean the way those pirates were
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retreating shita did at first I was like
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oh yeah they're little kids and then
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suddenly all these Pirates are falling
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over each other in love with her I'm
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like okay she's older how old are they
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supposed to be do you think is based on
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the viruses the Japanese know that the
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kids because based on the Japanese I
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assume yet 1211 yeah yeah but obviously
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the the English dub suggest and perhaps
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that's just because of the Pirates in
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later that suggests that they're a bit
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older but this they shouldn't look at
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but i don't know how much of my
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assumption that there Yung comes from
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the fact that they just have
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high-pitched voices and that could be
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coming from you know fifteen-year-old
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they're small they're small they're
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small people there are small child
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constructed people
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yeah that's certainly how they seem i
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was thinking even maybe like nine could
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oh well yeah i was thinking they're
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really really little bit than you know
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as we will discuss some things that
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happen later read that really creepy
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also the idea of a nine-year-old just
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living all by himself in a house taking
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care of himself well that's that's part
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of the melancholy like it was supposed
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to be a gentle giant peach kind of thing
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yeah she there when her parents died or
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whatever she just has to keep staying on
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the farm and taking out the axe and and
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you know doing all the stuff and and
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pasta doesn't have parents he's gotta
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work as a kid but he has to work and
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it's hard being a kid who works and he
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works hard and he lives by himself and
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he makes his own food and he takes care
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of his own doves and like that's the
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world forget you know this this is kind
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of a fallen world where that the ruins
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of the past civilization are there if
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you look at where they're living their
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kind of living in like a crater you
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actually see it at various points there
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are like like impact craters all over
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the ground like old impact craters were
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4 meteors are from bombs from the past
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civilization however that are falling
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the city's yeah you know it's not it's a
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tough world for everybody that randomly
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fired off weapons from Sky fortresses
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could they live they live in a tough
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world but they are both of these
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characters are cheerfully determined to
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do whatever needs to be well i think a
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lot of it just comes from that whole
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adventure tailed you from the childhood
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view anyway I mean it's you know you're
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sitting around fantasizing well you know
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if I could get rid of these idiot
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parents of mine i could live in a hut
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somewhere and have great adventure
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really self-sufficient and I don't have
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to worry about anything like building or
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purchasing a house one would just appear
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for me and I could live in it all by
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he's whistle though because he misses
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his dad and his he's his project like
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you sell because must be lonely party
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was a project this project is to build a
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plane and prove his missing or deceased
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father right there you know this picture
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we took that everyone said he was crazy
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like he's you know he's he has something
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that is trying to do we're not quite
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sure what she was doing other then she
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was just hanging out on her farm in the
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absence of her parents and got stolen
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right let's talk about the Pirates and
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the pirate chase one of the things that
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happens so after after we have our
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moment in the in the mind and all of
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that one of the next thing that happens
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in this movie is this big pirate chase
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they come down on their bug flyers
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there's a chase through town it leads to
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which chase a train chase and then and
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it becomes a three-way chase because
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then the army is on the train tracks and
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the Pirates are kind of battling the
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army and and there's a crumbling bridge
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and and you know it ends with them
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falling from the for the crumbling
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bridge that they're dangling on and of
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course they float down because as we saw
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in the opening sequence if you've got
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that crystal you don't fall to your
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death you float down but i love this
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whole thing i love this whole thing be
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the train chase it's great it's a great
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action sequence where they they're
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coming up behind them and they've got
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the extra cars and then they try to
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disconnect the cars so that they'll hit
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them but then they push forward and then
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they have to try to put the brake on in
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order to to delay them further like all
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of that and there's also the way they
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frame it where like there's the great
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there's a slow-motion chest-thumping
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fight scene that has all the sons
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interests right we're bursting olvera
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their shirts the ID we should talk about
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that was good yeah we have mom gets the
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binoculars and is and she they're all
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wanted to watch the fight she's a
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wonderful shot that kind of frames this
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the beginning of this where she's at
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first starts out looking at the front
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right and then she slowly turns and
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looks down she's a smart one
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she figures out that they went out the
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back door and that kind of frames the
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beginning of that while the suns like
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you are watching all anyone knows saying
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like I just the framing that all the way
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the tracks are torn up like why are they
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throwing the car off i'm not sure but
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like it was it was it was a great action
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seen you again like something from James
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Bond it was it was really good
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they were throwing those off so they
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could they could pull their car forward
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forward
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yeah yeah and they are and the army
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thing is great where they're like whoa
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we can't go there it's the army and we
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can oh no but another coming and they go
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across the other at the other bridge
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they're running at this point across the
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other bridge and the army like takes it
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out and I yeah it's all it's all very
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exciting i just i i really love the
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whole thing a felt very he gave me the
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same feeling that like watching a good
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like a watching indiana jones kind of
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sequence makes me feel it's just again
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it's adventure and daring do and some
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surprises and some interesting actions
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that the characters have to go through
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although who builds these trestle
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bridges that fall apart when a car
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rides over yeah there's a lot of damage
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that wasn't in the specs t yeah I
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wondered about the physics of those just
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kind of in general they seem like
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they're you know like a mile off the
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ground all wood and have slaves I gotta
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be imbued with some kind of magic to
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actually be holding together at all here
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and there barely holding together
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yes your flavor you get from the
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sequences when pots you like it when
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he's running to catch the train
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originally hey you got the impression
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that he's run to catch train many times
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and it's confirmed when he gets on there
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and the end the the engineer of the
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train recognize them so much like like
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you get the idea of you get a picture of
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his life that he is a scamp he's running
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around he's doing his job
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sometimes you catch the train and of
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course our engineer knows him because he
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does this all the time and that you know
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that kind of gives a sense of community
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that this isn't it on his home turf and
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that's why he's able to outsmart them
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all right because he knows the territory
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despite the Army and the Pirates
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afternoon when he knows the Pirates to
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he's the one that announces its the dole
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again following yeah and he's tied into
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all of everything that's going on finger
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on the pulse of people want to talk
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about that the previous scene where
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they're in the town in there the the
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Pirates come and there's the we have the
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battle as the people whose who can swell
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their chest up to the shirts are way too
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what does that nothing is that your
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shirt is too tight if you can break your
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they say like a do that thing where
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you're where you're sure bursts open mic
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all right i'll do that make your shirt
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explode had the wife of the potters boss
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who's the the big strong guy his wife is
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there with like I don't actually like a
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pan or a rolling pin or so yeah and when
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the fights gonna go out she grabs that
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the daughter the the wonderfully Rumple
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haired daughter right there LMAO yeah
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polls are inside and of course pots was
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next to his boss making his big thing
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she comes back a minute later grabbed
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him pulled him into it's like it's not
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this is another case where like all the
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women have to take the women folk and
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she's taking the children in yeah and
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she just had to take one and then she
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comes back out pop so you come and he
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has to she has to convince him all your
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job is to protect doubt it convince him
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to stay here that he's not being
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all your job is to protect your friend
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see the thoughts behind her little
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yeah let's see I need this kid to stay
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what can i say that's gonna make him
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actually haha you can click practically
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see a light bulb going off and the way
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he sort of went in the Japanese are in
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the subtitles this
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she's saying it's ken this is maddening
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how different these are but she said
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something like you know there's a pretty
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girl here and you see him go
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hmm any kind of pops up is just a little
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bit like realizes he has a job to do
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there is no way i can think of that i
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would love this scene in any other type
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of movie than a miyazaki movie city as I
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imagine ok if this were a live-action
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thing I would be like I don't know
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rolling my eyes if it works some kind of
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like Disney movie I guess guest on does
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that kind of but still not my favorite
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put in this it just absolutely delights
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me it is so over-the-top and so I don't
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know man preening it's just it's just
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hilarious and i love it so much and I
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love boss's wife and she's just kind of
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standing back there observing all this
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and she's like I'm not fixing that for
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you and you know it's just so so many
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little delightful things that just make
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me grin every time I see the scene it's
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one of my favorites in the movie
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actually
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and you can tell from his wife like
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again the wife and the daughter the
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rumble daughter and the wife you could
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tell like like everyone else in this
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town it's a hard life like these are
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hardworking people there you know
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everything is not perfectly clean they
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tried to make the best home they can in
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what looks like the ruins of a city that
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they didn't build the buildings of the
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side of a cliff just such a flavor for
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for everything involved even though like
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that town is not going to be part of
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this movie for long like we will leave
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this setting but it's what you get you
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get so much out of the the community
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part also we should give a shout-out
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without enlist in the dub trust McNeil
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said her name
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the woman does all the voices on like
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futurama in the simpsons yeah and she's
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so good in that small role but also just
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the way the whole like there's a sense
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of community pride and like wanting to
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protect you know these people and kind
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of the honor of the community they throw
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everything ya need or throws it was
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going throws a grenade at like a German
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looking like i got like a potato masher
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heart it's not a potato masher it's not
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gonna like again totally realistically
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rendered but you know that it's not
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actually going to kill anybody with
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shrapnel because this type of movies is
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that everyone will see it and go whoa
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there are no way they'll be a big orange
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explosion everyone will be fine again
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this really weird balance with these
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photorealistic weapons and and nobody
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getting hurt and then it ends with like
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with them all hiding under covers and
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what you've got the spy planes all of
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the spy planes going around like we got
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this government planes making an ominous
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noise almost silently overhead and dola
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for the millionth time is the is the
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smart one that she she's the one who
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knows stay undercover and the kids are
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like oh the coast is clear we can leave
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in a course they trapped they caught
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right now the only thing that bugs me
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about the sequences that the the
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animation on the characters sometimes it
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dips into that anime wackiness thing
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where I guess it might be the squash and
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stretch that you were referring to
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before they're like like Looney Tunes
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cartoons they were their legs
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exaggerated like this suddenly they're
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made of jello yeah they're like stomping
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their feet and weirdly slow-motion
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sometimes like when they get here with a
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shovel it's like it one-third speed with
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the grin on their face it's so odd
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yeah like that's when they purposely go
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again with the put the punching thing
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where they both punch each other in the
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stomach and make big expressions and you
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might as well see a giant beetle sweat
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appear on their they don't go that far
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but like a lot of the animatrix come in
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and they'll slide right back to
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completely you know realistic sort of
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kinky style animation for other
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sequences like when they're having lunch
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in the tunnel but when it comes to the
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action scenes suddenly become a made of
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rubber again so I fall down in the in
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the pit and and the end are saved by the
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glowing and the crystal and they meet
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uncle palm who lives down in the caves
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for whatever can see you clearly at
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goblin and and they learned that if they
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turn off all the lights the the rocks
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down there in the mines glow and it
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looks like looks like stars or something
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and this is etherium the material that
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her her necklace is made out of these
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are just sort of trace amounts in the
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I I markdown that with all that glowing
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all around them in this in the rocks
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it seems like it seems a little
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dangerous like that sits with radium
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everybody if no no don't don't but it's
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ok anyway the floating city had ethereal
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that's why they can squash and stretch
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now they've been living in a nuclear
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waste dump for the last 50 years the
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etherium thing I remember thinking the
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first time through that I really liked
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etherium because
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the opening sequence with like the
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little title cards in the different
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style showing these ridiculous that like
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giant floating you know castles in the
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sky with big lazy propellers you like
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those propellers well couldn't make
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those things float that's that doesn't
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make any sense like why even bother
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having the propellers are probably
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practicing like oh it's not the
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propellers that are making it throws the
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etherium that's making it float the
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theorem is Magic the powers are just
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there for steering and aesthetics and
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suddenly the world is coherent within
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within his real assistant because none
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of them not depressing stuff makes sense
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and if you look at the modern things all
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the modern devices they don't have a
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theory and they're all they're all
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dirigibles of some kind they're all big
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there you know lighter-than-air craft
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with a bunch of crap strap to them
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because they don't have a theorem and so
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all their vehicles look I mean maybe not
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realistic because you have these hot-air
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balloons or you know helium-filled
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things or whatever they're supposed to
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be with tons of iron strapped to it but
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you know we'll get some creative license
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but i like that it is a system that
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makes sense instead of just saying oh
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castles float and these propellers do it
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now remember we had that the propellers
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are there because miyazaki will put a
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propeller on anytime your propellant
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belhaj yeah they're on a bike
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I don't get a windmill a windmill put it
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on the field and make somebody stand
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next to it its propellers all the way
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down we also learned that shita is a
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princess ? because how my god those
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orphans materials and their she's a
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secret princess
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it's a disney movie I don't do you
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listen to tal la puta she is actually
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from the mythical but not after all
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floating city of la pita I want I want a
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name like a board a story that's a clean
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here now we'll hear another one of those
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late-night disney movie wouldn't have
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had the scene where shita is on her farm
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hang out with the axe the blue y axis
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wherever they are doing her chores right
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and then that like that again with a
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realistic framing like this is right out
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of like an adult movie that the
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beautiful hill and the four men walking
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up from the distance that's all you need
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to see to know she's being kidnapped by
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men by serious men in suits right well I
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don't you kind of need the part at the
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end where positive says so you were
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kidnapped because i didn't get that at
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all actually said that right but they
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don't they don't go through the
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kidnapping
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scene they don't see the struggle is
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just in the distance for a uniformed men
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walking up and her looking at them it's
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like a we don't need to show any of that
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nastiness just like we didn't need to
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show the colonel thomas dolby get conked
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on the head with a wine bottle earlier
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we cut away from that that's right the
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UH let's see so so now we know that
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she's got her her royal lineage and that
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la la the the pottses father insisted
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was real is real talk about Uncle palm
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for just a second were first I was like
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he's really cool and then I'm like wait
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is he actually gone take away the
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precious i don't want to see the
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pressure that's all it'll be rating them
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that radium tearing him up he's got the
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marie curie problem
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it's ok he sees goblins and he talks to
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rocks sometimes also power he's used to
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low levels of etherium and that is just
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it's too much you can't even taste
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strong but he's lying he's like reaching
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for it in his hand is shaking and you're
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thinking oh he is galloping yeah but no
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he's just he's a he's a friendly old
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talking to rocks guy yea he's not all
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there but he's he's a friendly enough
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so when we could get shita one of the
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things that happens is there is our
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first view of a robot that is the
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coolest robot designed by the way my
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love and i could not love that robot
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more i love the kind of flexible design
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of the arms and the super-long arms that
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turn into wings and just it's something
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super creepy and cool about that
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although he does kind of look like he
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should be standing out in front of a car
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dealership a giant-sized one in the
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studio ghibli museum in Japan like I'd
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full-size metal statue of it looks very
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impressive look nice this whole setup of
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like where where they kidnapped you like
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this sort of castle / military base such
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a great look it said you know sort of
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exaggerated medieval castle mixed with
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like world war two bunker and and pods
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in the in the little dungeon where the
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door is two feet up off the ground and
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tries to squeeze himself through like a
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little archery slit that leads on to the
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parade grounds for the soldiers are
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marching such atmosphere again
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total total removed from like the weird
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mining town
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into this which will soon see wrecked in
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another great action scene but I i just
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love everything this is the thing we
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talked about before like the combination
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of multiple of Earth cultures from the
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people is always delightful
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yeah i agree and i do love this robot
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realistically you would entirely lose
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its it you entirely lose its charm i
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it is a dream it's a it's an animated
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robot it's a drawing of a robot and I
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think I think you can see like i love
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how the arms hanging down like and
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that's the thing that I think it was
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rendered realistically it would look
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dumb but the way that it's wrong it's
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just beautiful
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it's it's yeah that also allows it to
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move on four limbs in a way that is
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extremely creepy and really cool looking
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right at it doesn't it doesn't uh it
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doesn't squash and stretch for the most
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part it bike its face is entirely nerd
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it doesn't blink it has two differently
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shaped and sized eyes and they're all of
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its emotion is expressed through body
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language and to blinking red lights
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that's pretty great i love the way it's
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animated to when it's a when its kind of
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testing out the fact that it's missing
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part of its arm and one of its feet
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yes I guess it's kind of its kind of
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identifying the fact that this piece is
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missing and it's got to kind of adjust a
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little bit and clearly it doesn't do it
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completely properly because it has some
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trouble flying around when it swings get
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out initially but just that the whole
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dynamic of that is really cool but I
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draw the insides of it like this you can
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see it with the broken up arm the inside
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of the right like look like a person's
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guts but it's still all clearly
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mechanical like this that fine line of
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like it an organic robot like what if
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what if organic beings were made of
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metal instead of four
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if we don't know whether it's metal or
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ceramic is that the two choices but like
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it as you know living things as
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envisioned made of something other than
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flesh and
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you know it does such a great job both
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here and later of being convincingly
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advanced like so clearly this technology
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is beyond the people who found like the
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short falling from the sky with a
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stylized animation on to the farmers
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right this is so clearly super advanced
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tech they have no idea how it works but
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at the same time it also looks like old
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and steampunk right like it's it's so
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confusing to them like they don't
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understand they think it's dead they
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don't understand it works its weapons
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are so much more powerful than the other
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weapons thats just one this one gardener
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robot or whatever the hell it was
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I could have been one of the common ones
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i suppose but it doesn't look like it's
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not it doesn't look like all techno
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metal like sci-fi future as we would
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imagine so to us it looks old but to
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them it's super-advanced i love i love
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it's near indestructibility and and the
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havoc it wreaks on the entire army this
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pour half broken robot yeah I think that
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was the thing that spoke to me the most
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was just how effective it was at him
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burning and bashing and killing like
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everything that I mean more than
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anything else yes the technology looks
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really you know advanced as compared to
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the you know
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steampunk city with the wooden bridges
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that fall down when you drive over them
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but the fact that all i had to do was
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just basically point it's little head
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and shoots laser beam out and just
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suddenly things are erupting into flame
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and by the end of everything has erupted
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into flames I was like okay this
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perfectly illustrates how advanced these
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you know Latin people must have been and
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and the kind of thing that these two
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kids are about to get themselves into in
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their adventure looking for this place
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like wow you kids have bit off perhaps
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more than you can chew which just
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ratchet up the tension and was
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delightful and this this is another is
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another action scene and this is a shift
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i think into alright so we've got
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realistic-looking guns and we've got the
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potato masher grenade and we got
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fistfights but really no one gets hurt
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and this this bring it brings it up
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another level where there you know the
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music is more ominous there's flames
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everywhere there's not as much cartoon
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cartoon violence is more like regular
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rounds you really see people burning to
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death or dying but you see people
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screaming you see a lot of flames and
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for both of my kids this was a very
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intense scene in the first few times my
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daughter watches we should not make it
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past the scene and for many many years
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this was known as the robot movie can i
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see the robot she eventually watch it
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through and became one of her favorite
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movies you watch it over and over again
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essentially like you wouldn't think i'll
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cast Muscat it's the robot movie but to
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my daughter this is absolutely the robot
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moment yeah it's kind of amazing that
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with as as little emoting as the thing
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is able to do i actually wrote down when
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it gets destroyed haha or in
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discriminately descriptive giant robot I
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know just trying to protect his princess
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this is the big turn for she's right
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she's not going to stimulate you know
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that what's-his-name a most got tries to
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give her like dresses and stuff and and
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you know we need you to work the crystal
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because we're not sure you know he he's
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playing out his plot and rather being
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captured and plied with dresses is it
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such a stereotypical thing but it's a
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complete role reversal what happens here
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because normally what happens is the
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girl is is trapped somewhere and the
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hero sacrifices himself says i don't
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care what you don't care what you do to
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me I'll help you with your evil plot
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just let the girl go and the girl goes
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free and and the male hero sacrifices
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himself to you know is that that's all
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he cares about to protect it
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she does that for him and says I will
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deal whatever i'll do the deal just let
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pots to go and he comes out of done is
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what I'm ready to fight gone it's like I
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actually you know you can go free she's
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gonna help everything's fine she plays
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it up like no it's good i'm fine here
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you can go and he leaves of course he's
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all crushed because he doesn't feel like
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you know it feels like he couldn't save
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he doesn't try probably buy that she
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wasn't but she she makes a choice there
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she makes a heroic choice sacrifices
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herself and it's the exact opposite of
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the same movie you see a million other
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movies and again the first many times I
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well I couldn't get over the fact that
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she was just being held prisoner in this
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castle by the bad guy which is just so
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stereotypical but it's really actually
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less conventional than that and i think
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it plays pretty well because even though
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they do the reversal that both of their
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reactions to the situation are not what
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you expect she cries in the tower after
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after making this decision because she's
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upset about it should now she'd made the
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sacrifice but it's tough to make
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sacrifices and he runs away and he's
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dejected because even though he is free
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he doesn't feel that he's been saved
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because he feels like it's his
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responsibility as gender role too
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protect her and so they're both they're
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both stuck in the opposite roles and
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both the characters in movies know it
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and I just don't handle it well they're
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like can we be in start a stereotypical
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fairytale wear these roles reversed I
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feel much more comfortable but the
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answer is no they both act like kids
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would act in that situation to my senses
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yeah she's sort of manipulated into into
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believing that the safest thing is to
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send a way possible
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katsu for his own good and he you know
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his response when he's being told to get
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the hell out is well okay if that's how
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you feel and I'm out of here we go but
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he's gonna give him the money and he's
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so bitter about the money he's gonna
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throw it away but of course he's a poor
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kid so we can actually throw it away
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like his pride is hurt right because he
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expects to be the hero because I mean
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even dola throws in his face because
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they're waiting for me back in this
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house that I go I guess you couldn't
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save her right he doesn't he doesn't
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take the money as a bribe he takes the
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money because he's he's clearly in some
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form of shock during that whole speech
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right not like he's like okay fine I'll
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take the money and you go ahead and do
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whatever you want with right guys he's
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walking home he's like it was going to
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throw the money off the cliff but then
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he can't he can't do it because you
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can't throw away that kind of money
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might have taken that was much much
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simpler and and not as politically
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advance to as much more of like I have
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this new friend and i have either let
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them down and/or they have been left an
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impression that is you know that i did
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not have a role in how this thing turned
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out and now this person's gonna hate me
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that was more i read it was a double
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throws in his face is all I guess you
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couldn't save her took the money and ran
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didn't she is Rush album roaming in his
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worst fear is worse fear is that he that
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he didn't do all he could do and that he
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feels like he was expected to he does
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not you have been saved her but I mean
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when you look at the the society likey
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yes they are sort of doing the opposite
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gender role things that you would expect
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but I think the reason that shita is is
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a special character is because of the
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fact that she does something different
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this world has very stereotypical gender
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roles they even call it out that you
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know but now we're talking about do
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later on
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well your female you know you because
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you're doing all this stuff i should be
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able to fly the kite too so I I'd while
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it's nice that she is is doing things
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that are are not necessarily
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the stereotypical you know that
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princessy things to do the fact that
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she's doing them is really if she's
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she's special for that it's not that the
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society is advanced
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oh yeah no that's what i was getting at
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like that that both of them have the
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same general expectation that you would
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expect but the events don't let them
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thaw it into there and it is
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disconcerting to all involved i came in
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like even dollar running around people
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aren't that comfortable with our main
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she's their mom and like the husband's
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they're down there in the engineering
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and like you said they bring it up in
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the things like wait a second you're
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gross like well yeah I guess like it
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they are against the structure of the
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rest of the world and it is
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uncomfortable for them there they are
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people of their time in place put into
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situations that that don't fit which i
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think it is the best thing you can do in
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these types of movies are rather than
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just pretend imitate even an osmosian
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doesn't like where she's she's very
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conservative person in that movie but
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she is expected to fill these roles as
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the princess as the leader of the people
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as the the you know the girl that all
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the the killed the children gather
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around its I think it works better when
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you show a character doing something
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different
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despite the fact that the entire
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surrounding world has different
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expectations yeah I feel like in this
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scene neither one of them has any other
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choice than to do what it is they do so
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i'm not sure that you can really put a
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lot of you know agency of them you know
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changing up gender roles or anything of
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that sort I mean what is she gonna do
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she's clearly surrounded by a bunch of
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adults who can basically tell her what
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to do and shoot her if she gets out of
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hand and he's in the same boat i mean
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he's just been released from a dungeon
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so well if you decide to sex rider in it
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and what you would expect to happen is
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he breaks out a dungeon and save
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certainly make their escape
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perhaps I guess one of the things I like
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in here is that in this section of the
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film is that we've got this idea that
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the secrets of the floating city have
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been passed down from generation to
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generation using an it's an oral
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tradition because it turns out that that
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she knows secret words and phrases and
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poems that have power when combined with
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the crystal and you know she uses the
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the dad to the awakened the robot and
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later we see more of that I think that's
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kind of fun the idea that that you're
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uncovering her legacy and it's not just
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that she's discovering that she's
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royalty on this uh on this floating city
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but that some of these funny things her
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grandmother told her are actually like
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super important powerful secret things I
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think that's very cool
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that brings up another question I have
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about the the subtitling because the way
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it was subtitled in the version i
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watched she refers to those that is
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spells and I always thought it was very
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weird that her grandmother's teaching
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her purse spells it is it different in a
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different version or is that actually
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the closest thing that again but i think
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it's that spells because I i bet that is
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the most reasonable translation of the
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japanese word but i don't i don't think
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it has the same cultural connotations
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whatever the original Japanese world is
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doesn't that you don't mean like direct
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translation be always like a spell but
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it's not like a spell because when we
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hear that we think magicians casting
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spells so I'm willing to the kind of
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thing you tell a little kid when you're
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trying to comfort them on something each
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other it's a magic spell and if you say
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it you'll feel better
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well I kind of is I mean there is magic
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in this world and these words that you
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know this is this is another common
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thing like that you learn a song and
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childhood the turns out to be a special
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magical incantation and you know like
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this is all straightforward stuff but uh
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yeah I'm totally willing to go along
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with this and it's easy even though it's
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a trope and I and spells I I kind of
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like it when i watch japanese movies
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where they do the most direct literal
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translation even if it seems super weird
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because I get to imagine that I'm
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actually hearing the Japanese and I
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could say okay well don't think that is
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what the word actually is an English
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just said like this is their direct
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translation of what the words were and
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then turn that into what you think they
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were trying to say like make up some
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cultural background that you don't
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understand for which is basically what I
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did let me do the work myself I'll
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figure it out i mean i'm already reading
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the subtitles guys it's not like I just
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want to sit back and watch a dub exactly
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i have to go back to the scene where
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dole is reading is reading positive the
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riot act for for letting shita saying
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anything at giant ham
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yeah well maybe on the giant ham which
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is also which is also great i mean it's
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not ladylike how to open a lobster you
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don't always see them
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no lady she's apparently lady / cloud
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but yeah i mean this this right here is
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the big turning point for the Pirates
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because up until this moment you know
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their characters and their bad guys and
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the thing that changes here is is dola
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is swayed by positives determination to
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protect sheet after she's kind of read
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him the riot act about leaving her and
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and she makes out at this point like
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she's bringing them along just because
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he can help make sure to cooperate but
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it's clear from the look on her face
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that she's actually touched by his his
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willingness to want to save her is the
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star with a heart of gold
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there's only I mean it's distant a huge
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change that happens here I mean it's
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kind of the hinge point of the movie for
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me at least I mean you can see all that
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in her once you watching movies
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obviously thats all from the beginning
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to use don't know the number like you
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did the sons are all still goofy and
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they're goofy through the whole movie
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but she is the smart one she is the one
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who understands the the tactics and and
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knows how to negotiate the battle
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between the army and the spies and all
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that other stuff and they're you know as
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we will see later scenes there is much
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more depth are ya then you would think
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she has depth which sets her apart my
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memory of this film from five years ago
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I had her and her but her boys as much
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more wacky and slapstick then they are i
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mean the boys are wacky and slapstick
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and they really like desert by the way
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they're very enthusiastic i get to lick
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the spatula dessert but but dola mom
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mama is uh she is a very interesting
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character and not a you know zany wacky
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character at all she's got much more
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going on which I really like the robot
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blows a bunch stuff up by the way at
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about this point in the movie and
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there's the Army and the robot and the
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major plot point that happens here is
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mush could get the necklace and they're
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going to take the their big army airship
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the Goliath and find lap utah and
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meanwhile everybody else goes back with
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mom the boys to the biggest mother ship
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mother ship her own ship and head him
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it is a mom-and-pop operation it turns
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out because pop is like tinkering with
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stuff in the ship that is a mole man
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stop yelling at me
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he says the guy from spirited away
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there with multiple army in the belly
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that's my favorite part about him is he
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has a jug that it that is apparently
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named Ben because it has been
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yep oh and look at the they all of
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Mama's boys love shita they try to give
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them jobs but the boys are like hey I'll
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let me help you with that and also
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they'll love to sort when you put on
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gigantic bloomers it makes you utterly
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irresistible to men place your age
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that's pretty well known pirate Rosen
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has to put our moms clothes and like the
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size of a tent
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yeah yeah they fit her pretty well as it
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turns out though but somehow they found
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a shirt that was a little yellow shirt
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that's perfect and the but the pants are
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not that's dad's yeah maybe so
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and this is where we see those gender
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roles again where she's put in the
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kitchen and was like okay you go you're
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cooking five times a day these these
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boys get hungry
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although she does she does resist in
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that wonderful scene where I mean this
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section the movie is really great
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because you've got all the climb
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climbing around all over this airship
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and all that but she she where she kind
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of like refuses and basically climbs up
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to the top of the airship to see pots
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ooh she's not gonna she's not going to
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shrink from it
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yep you know about you in this thing the
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dad is sort of the you know the sort of
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countdown he's in the engine room with
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this yes and she's the leader of the
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Titans his only friend and the ship but
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she gets shot right into the kitchen
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right and then and she does come out
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again later with the kite flying thing
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you notice is all you can't do that it's
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not even even dollars going to us not
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that's not a thing for girls like what
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what are you talking about you're in
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charge of the whole ship he's like yeah
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but she's she's clearly saying that to
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prod her into doing it anyway
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yeah i don't i don't know it's hard it's
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hard to say but I feel like dola is a
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creature of the same society with all
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these same roles and she just somehow
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doesn't see herself she sees herself as
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a man essentially in this world because
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she's in charge but she totally accept
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the roles like feel your little girl get
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right into the kitchen
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yeah this is um one of my favorite
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little moments in this movie is when uh
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when scheana and pots who are up on the
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top of the of the ship is easy
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he's taken over the watch and the other
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guys a lot of detail here that's really
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great to the the other guy is waiting
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and they tell him to put on you know put
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on a jacket because it's really cold up
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there up there it's dark your loan it's
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when any other guys like oh great you
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know he's relieved to be off of duty and
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then she goes up there and the the art
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direction of just the details
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this of this steampunk airship or so
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it's so great and then there's that
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moment where they are from up above the
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cloud layer and like like a whale or a
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shark or something down in the cloud
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layer there's the realization that the
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Goliath is right below them
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that is a beautiful shot that I really
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like and of course it's also a dramatic
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moment the movie because it's like oh
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the Goliath is here and then lots of
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crazy stuff is in the nebula
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yeah exactly what before that I want
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that when they're up there on the thing
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you got dola down there listening to
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them oh god yeah the whole sequence
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where oh yeah yeah I love that always
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listening
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she's listening in and the expressions
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on your face then eventually going to
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start getting to like the part where
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they may be going to get all mushy she
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she politely is about to like close the
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thing and say okay well i'm not gonna
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listen anymore out of privacy is such a
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great because I'm having line she's just
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there and you can hear expression and
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look at her as she listened to them
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because they're talking about her
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they don't know she's listening but
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she's just just listening to their
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relationship and what they think of her
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and everything like that and eventually
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she's just like now just let them up
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then you know that the client comes in
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yeah thing that I think is what makes it
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clear that they're supposed to be maybe
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11 or 12 or so because there's so many
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sequences where you know they put on the
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same poncho or whatever to stay warm or
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he picks her up and carries her off to
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look over the edge on the Buddha and I
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mean those are clear scenes where in
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movies where they were slightly older
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they would suddenly be like a romantic
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moment or a moment of awkwardness right
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but there's there's none of that all
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they're just two friends looking at you
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and then they get that reading skipped
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over this but that highlights the
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weirdness of the the sun's being all I
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want to help cheetah and I think like
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you're someone explain this attempt to
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myself not because you see this in a lot
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of Japanese movies the impression i get
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as a complete outsider not knowing
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anything about this is just having seen
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a lot of Japanese animation that is more
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accepted that that men will find young
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girls beautiful not perhaps in like a
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sexual way
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although perhaps that way as well but in
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general that it is that that's a hand
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baby right men and so in this movie for
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them to be comically head over heels for
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wanting to help her in the kitchen which
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is up as a funny scene of like everyone
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the school wants to help out she was
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going to be the one doing and she gets
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puts them all to work but the fact that
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they're all gaga over her doesn't make
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sense to us for a Western perspective
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but we see this amigo danger danger like
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it's not this is not correct are
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acceptable but in this movie it's played
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as like well everybody knows this is a
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thing and look isn't just a sweet
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innocent in the same way that the two
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are two leads are just sweet innocent
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with each other hand and it is jarring
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and it just it doesn't fit into my brain
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or my expectations for anything and it's
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it's creepy but because it's played so
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matter-of-factly because I've seen it so
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many times before and was like I guess
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is they just think this is okay and it's
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just expected
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I don't know my hope is that these guys
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are actually only supposed to be about
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maybe 17 or 18 themselves so it's not as
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I also really interesting it does a
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I mean it depends on it depends on how
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old they're weirdos and they're not very
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bright and they live on a ship on an
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airship with their mom and the only
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woman in their life that they ever seen
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and mom has clearly said when you get
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married you need to find someone like
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she tried sure right because she's mushy
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like me so maybe they just
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misinterpreted that
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yeah she found the measure not very
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bright to again but they really like
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dessert is what I'm saying they're not
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very bright but they really like deserve
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these scenes really reminds me of
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futurama with mom and her kids or three
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times like I kept thinking about
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futurama and so I think I have a little
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bit of that headcanon that makes it okay
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because in futurama those kids are
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really messed up for a lot of reasons
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and and so I think that I've got a
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little bit of crossover in that that
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makes it a little bit more okay in my
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head but these are pirates were talking
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about they're not good people
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I mean and again in the movie she is not
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fazed by this at all
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she is not she's not intimidated or
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scared or worried about she puts them to
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work immediately
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no because she sees it as a way to get
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other people to peel the damn potatoes
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right and she's smart she is she has
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this daunting task and she rolled up her
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sleeves and she gets to it and just
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heard possible just so sweet together
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again like there's never any any
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romantic tension between them
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we're just good friends who care about
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each other if they never tease you with
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anything more than that and it's just so
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sweet and innocent that you know
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especially from the respective a kid
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watching we it all plays office
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perfectly explicable and i would imagine
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all that have not interrogating my kids
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about that they it hasn't even occurred
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to them to be creeped out in fact that
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the bombs you know sons are all over
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it's a cartoon and they're goofy and
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that's I just let it go
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I just don't think it's that it's all
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there such caricatures yeah that's the
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really the saving grace is because
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they're squash and stretchers and
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they're clearly not meant to be
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realistic in any way shape or form still
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gross though i would say actually this
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is a part of the movie that feels the
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most not the most miyazaki like it's
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like the it's just like it's miyazaki
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gonna miyazaki here this is the thing
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because it's like the Goliath is there
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we've got this kind of like act
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we've got this kind of like act
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action sequence happening between the
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Goliath and-and-and-and mom's ship and
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they put they fly up on their little
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kind of like kite thing that they have
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there's the crazy storm there's clouds
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everybody incredibly dangerous looking
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kite thing like a in in the in the realm
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of like ridiculous machines that
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probably wouldn't work and also would be
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incredibly dangerous hey there's a
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there's a totally crazy store looks like
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a hurricane yeah why don't we send two
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kids up in a hang glider tied to the
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shot at by a rope with a winch yeah
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also they have controls but i have no
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indication that they actually do
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anything I think just different
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expertise to each other so they don't
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fall how it's going to get the rest
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classic pirate stuff right there
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yeah but it's very exciting that it's
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also just like it's miyazaki being like
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yeah one airship two airships a third
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flying vehicle clouds and then finally I
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mean it's a nice moment for pots because
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he's like I you know I know this locket
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I is inside those clouds and that's the
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that's the thing that I'm unlocks it but
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it's just it'sit's more air aerial
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action from miyazaki because that is his
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thing he loves it and it also look at
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the beginning of the the scene in The
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Kite when they're they're launching it
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is my one of my favorite cheetah moments
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because you know she's it it's actually
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just after dola says you know that's not
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a thing for girls to do and she throws
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it back in her face and then she's like
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web but wont when you're gone
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once you detach your gonna have to use
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the phone to talk to me and immediately
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the phone rings picks up but it's like
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wow she really is good i think she's
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gotta go shi de that's right and so so
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they it's a great action sequence and
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then we are at laputa of the castle in
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the sky this city that is floating
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inside this I was trying to think like
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if they're inside the big hurricane
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cloud all the time i was wondering what
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life is like a lot better because that
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means that they don't have a lot of
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sunlight I guess because there's a whole
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big cloud around them all the time or
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sunlight comes from the top or maybe I
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know but it was a defense that was a
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defense mechanism because remember the
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clouds went away afterward yeah the
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shields are up so when she arrives
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they'll clear out you can only get
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through if if ghost dad lead you through
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the lightning
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I think that was creeping interesting
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like legs seeing you know that his
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father came this way before whether
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that's literally something
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or whether it's just his memory i like
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that moment of like this is what this is
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what my father did that pot so I think
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he's been struck by lightning at that it
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could be illuminating could be or they
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could be that there's some sort of time
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vortex inversion layer between though
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that's what it is you probably want it's
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clear i mean science really obvious it's
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a great reveal because the kite sort of
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plops down on the little platform and
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the clouds are floating by it at ankle
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level because of course they're up in
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the sky and just that the way this is
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drawn as like this beautiful castle
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floating in the sky but so clearly
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overgrown with everything and just the
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birds flapping around the moss and the
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grass over everything it's a place where
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you would love to hang out I like that
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they have their moment to themselves
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when we don't think about the fact that
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Goliath is still out there and the
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Pirates are have just been shot down you
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know they've got maybe five to ten
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minutes to walk around and discover
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shocked that a miyazaki movie has a
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giant tree at the center of everything
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but they have that time when we just
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ignore the fact that
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oh yeah the clouds probably blew away
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because the Goliath has come in and
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there's probably some you know some
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exploding of the city happening but we
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get that that sort of brief respite
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where they just get to explore I think
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that's we have the flowers the the robot
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finds the bird eggs that has to protect
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from light
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yeah more robots that makes me very
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happy there they're robots that have
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been there awhile and they're covered
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with plants and moss on your fuzzy fuzzy
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robot little fox squirrels upright as
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ago you know i love the fox squirrels
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this is the scene the everytime i watch
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it it makes my heart hurt and everytime
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i watch this movie and I forget and then
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I see the scene and my heart just hurts
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because I know I feel sad for the little
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robot with the giant robot that's been
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alone for so long and like all these
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things that it's taken guardianship or
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was assigned guardianship or whatever
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and then what's gonna happen you know
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you know that their environment even
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though the garden itself survives in the
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end I know the environment is going to
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change vastly and all those little robot
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friends general but friends fall to
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their doom and all of that degrades in
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HS little upper
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garden stays intact we do see that as
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the tree floats off into this guy
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yeah but it's like it's the sweet
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moments but it still is okay lean the
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robot going on and I told me about it
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just keeps on going I don't know if he's
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allowed to go up with the trees it's
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just like it you know in nature vs
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machines in miyazaki movie always been a
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nature and the next 200 years people
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living in that world are going to be
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digging up robots and they're gonna like
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that have landed injury somewhere and
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they're going to come alive and making
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friends everybody's gonna have their own
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robot they've all landed in that
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gigantic crater that has been made but
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the mushroom cloud that was you can
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order on amazon by the way a a planter
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that is the head of of the robot and you
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can plant but you know there's no you
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guys that fell down there too so
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whatever kind of destruction was wrought
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will probably be fertilized pretty well
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on the ocean will be soon come back
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that's right they were the ocean that's
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right i forgot they made a point of
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mentioning that they were over the ocean
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you're falling into the ocean from that
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height you're not going to live
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no I'm just saying like the ocean will
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swallow up all the debris you know like
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the romance you know exactly debris
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that's true when there's the whole bit
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where he fires off the massive cannon or
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whatever it is and in there's a mushroom
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cloud which one it's not it's not anime
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movie about a mushroom cloud come you
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gotta have it and and it's in keeping
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with everything else in this movie
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because it's the boy's adventure tale
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where bad things don't really happen or
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at least they do they happen off-screen
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where we don't have to see them you have
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to know that that explosion was just
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over the ocean so nobody died
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it's okay except for all the army man
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who got dumped out of the bottom of the
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glass for girly yeah they're ice cream
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and they probably they probably just
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splashed into this into the water
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they're okay but they bobbed up and row
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54 53 miles is yep but this is a I do
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like the deposit we get it's very nice
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and then of course the Army is there and
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ruined everything and they arrest the
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Pirates and their looting the city they
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find jewels and treasure and and they're
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distracted by because they don't know
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the true power and Mischka goes off and
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you know he's our true villain here and
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he's got his own plan that he's going to
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that he's going to put into
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well into plant place that the whole
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thing is beautiful to look at everyone
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every little bit of it is just beautiful
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to look at this little beaver creature
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swimming in the water when they zoom
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down into the water that is filled the
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chasms you see these prehistoric fish
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echoes of a early foreshadowing of ponyo
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there where this is ancient place where
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these prehistoric fish swim and like
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two-thirds of this movie as it turns out
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is it involves whatever the kids are
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hanging from falling off
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yeah yeah this is the animators got a
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lot of exercise at making things fall
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apart into pieces rather be a railroad
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trestles are you know masonry thing
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Rick's in his house yeah when he when
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when pots who jumps over at one point to
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the other side I'll go first and then it
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just progressively starts falling and he
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keeps climbing up in that part falls and
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it just keeps climbing up
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that's really great there i love the art
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direction when they go when they get
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inside there's that really weird inner
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chamber that's all those floating blocks
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there's like a control chamber that
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looks fairly intact but then there's
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this other control chamber that's just
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like clotted with tree roots and there
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are bugs and and a big crystal and like
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a tablet stone tablet instruction manual
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on how to run the castle in the sky i
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guess but i also many different
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environments that are all beautiful and
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interesting as we go through it's the
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it's the blackstone has spoken of in
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legend sure you heard of it of course so
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she does captured pot sue is you know he
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frees the mom and mom and the Pirates
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and all that they didn't you don't want
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to just skip over the fart joke Jason
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yeah that was a fart joke there's always
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think it's a pretty good one too i gotta
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say Pazuzu climbs into the window and
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one of those a you know exploding
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potatoes gets thrown in after him
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there's an explosion we see dola rise up
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off of the ground and smoke kind of
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emanates from around her fundament and
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and everybody kind of looks at her and
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says it wasn't me
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it's good it's good it's a solid one
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who's also the point where I think for
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me I kind of mushka went from a
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character that I probably shouldn't
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admit this but I sort of had a crush on
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to being like really really obnoxious
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over-the-top mustache twirling villain
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so yeah whatever
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but he doesn't care about any of the
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people who came there with them it
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doesn't care about the army people he
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just wanted the Machine and he's going
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to kill everybody else and it's gonna
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get a little creepy stuff like oh she's
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you're going to be here with me because
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we're both busy he reveals that he is
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part he also has a secret a la la pita
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name and is also royalty and he's
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declared himself he literally just
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declared himself king and starts killing
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everybody else is easy
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he's a doing everything with his name
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translation is we hear that she's the
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true ruler what isn't a 2l fake the fake
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ruler that's what his name translates
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doing the he won the electoral college
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there is I well if they're if there's a
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man alive like then the rule transfers
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to the man even though she's technically
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closer to the throne who knows that
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whatever rules it translator army
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deployed really in charge seems to me
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like whoever's got the got the the
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control of the throne room can can make
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it happen because nobody's really paying
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attention but this we do end up with our
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confrontation where much because there
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and and r2 r2 kid friends are there and
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i love this part and the and there's
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that moment where it's basically like
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you know just give me he's got the gun
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that he's used to to to the blast open
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the hole and go in there and he's got
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the the crystal and Mischka once the
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crystal and there's like give me a
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minute to talk to her and then mr.
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whisper whisper whisper villain error
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yeah but he's got he's got a gun and a
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crystal right so there's this it's sort
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of like you stand off he's kinda gotta
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give him and he's like alright then
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we'll do it and of course that's the the
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secret plan is that she's going to use
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the the spell of destruction the
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implementation which is very short spell
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very well someone was like one worried
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about right and also like it's one of
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those things where like what exactly is
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the purpose of the spell that destroys
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the entire city like I know what the
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self-destruction but like its supposed
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more comments entire city like is this
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dispelled that fires the big weapon to
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make so much about no this is about to
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destroy the entire thing you're
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currently floating on John you have to
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have a spell of destruction if you're
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gonna have a spell of creation is just
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how it works
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I think it's that Aloha hello i think my
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headcanon here is that what they've
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passed down across the generations is
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basically like protection stuff so that
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if something goes wrong and
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people do go back to laputa and are
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using it for evil then this blind of the
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family can put a stop to it that because
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they decide to remember they decided not
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to live there anymore and go back down
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to earlier so that's what i think is
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like the spell of destruction is like a
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last resort because as we see here a bad
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guy is basically going to take over the
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the the castle in the sky and that could
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well have been something they programmed
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into the crystal just before they left
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yes i do it might be needed to get
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otherwise you might say it accidentally
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that makes perfect sense too because if
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if you're the people who have you been
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living in the city your entire life and
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you're finally you know deciding your
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it's gonna be hard decision to leave and
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go back to earth
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the idea of actually destroying your
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home as you leave is probably too much
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for them but they knew that they needed
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to build a snow failsafe just give
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somebody else discovered it later
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it's like a wall actually checks out
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because why wouldn't you just blow it up
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as soon as you took off but yeah it
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makes good sense because it's been a
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long time making this the gardens are
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beautifully really and also want to give
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the robot sometimes yeah and also by the
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way this is the place where earlier
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forecast misguidance gorges a huge flood
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of these robots is out there was just
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wanted to take care of the garden and
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don't know it's like Sunderland you know
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and they go out with their wings and
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they're blowing up the Calliope and
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killing all the army guys I'm more
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robots because many Republicans Trump
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around you don't actually see them
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plug-in it's in the same vein where you
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don't actually see any of the murder and
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awfulness and people just kind of far
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out of the the Catholic we come out with
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their wings like it it's like a swarm of
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them they're all fly and don't become
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too they're attacking the Goliath true
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which person to flames but if they're
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probably non-lethal and arrow cancer
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they slowly float to the ground and
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probably purchase between two buildings
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where somebody has to come out right
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so the destruction of pappadeaux is a
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great exercise and these animators
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drawing blocks yep falling apart in
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beautiful patterns and you know tumbling
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over each other it's like like animator
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school with like basic shapes and just
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you know take them to the nth degree
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yeah there's a real tetris field is / 3d
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Tetris it is the big version of that
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that thing where the party was climbing
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up and things keep falling off now it's
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like the whole but it's not the whole
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city that one of the things I really
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like about this destruction and I
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every time i watch this movie i'm
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reminded of it is is the the tree and
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you know remains it's like the core of
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the city is this tree and it still gets
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to float around it's just all the stuff
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the course of history remains this is a
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miyazaki exactly i mean and as the idea
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is like when they left that tree was
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just like the central tree right but you
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leave for a few hundred years and that
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tree is now the whole thing we have
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roots go everywhere they're constantly
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fighting with the roots in the various
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scenes party was saved by root when he's
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like on the route that's wrapping around
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the bottom he comes back into the bottom
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kind of like Luke trying to climb up
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through the the thing at the bottom of
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the best friend only 52 makes it because
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he uses bare feet that's in the cute
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thing where he takes up the sox to get a
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better grip and he's he's running around
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with his bare feet but a little monkey
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feet like gripping onto things like
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bunnies jumping up trying to i get back
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to shoot at worming his way through
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these little holes that he blasted the
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wood with his they do a good thing
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she's fans there listens to the mustache
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twirling guy do his thing
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well she just tried to stop him from
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killing all the army guys you do see
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some of that but then she gets smacked
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for it and she does get shot in the back
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kind of like he's running after he
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shoots but she actually just trips you
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might think he just shot her dead now
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she's fine she gets back up i remember
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seeing that and thinking wow that's a
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bold move to have her she scratches on
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the back at the end of the credits but
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eventually of course that tree lands and
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takes root in Japan and totoro moves in
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is left at some hospital all fits
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together and I i feel like the climax of
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this movie is one of the what one of the
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does almost all the same things but in a
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way that I find more pleasing is in
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general more sophisticated and more you
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know self-serious unless squash and
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stretch because that the climax of the
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movie is them saying the spell together
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that destroys it and defeats are much
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just chillin villain but by that point
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like everything else had been stripped
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away we only care about this one evil
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guy getting the city once you eliminate
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him it's like out
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well I guess we're done then be
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the army guys for taking care of earlier
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and you two are safe and you've defeated
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the one guy and now you just have the
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big floating city and it you know it's
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like they don't know how to end it like
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and floating three credits
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yeah well you end it with a scooby-doo
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sound effect Isis i did my notes are
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much less from the very end of the film
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because it's just sort of there's the
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action and it happens and then in the
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end they pull the self-destruct lever
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basically and it all and everybody's
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okay and you know they they leave they
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kind of a kind away at the end and roots
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save them because trees are our friends
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at the Pirates at some point that we
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never saw we're able to make off with
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some treasure although i have no idea
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when that was never part of the closer i
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stealing putting in their pockets
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immediately connect all the little bug
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ships together in a little wacky
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centipedes group gets nude and the any
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land there little of their little tight
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they'd land there and they're like it's
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totally overloaded and then part Sioux
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and she to come in they're like all
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right I guess we'll get you can come on
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board to but they've got their jewels
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that they're gonna what I like about
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that is like we've come to like the
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pirate family and here it's like they're
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gonna be fine even if even a pop kind of
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want and shit
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yeah yeah because I got all those jewels
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and stuff they're gonna be fine never
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had it all had no mind to the fact that
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the mining community from which positive
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hails is spreading out of mining things
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and is probably going to starve to death
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at every movie yeah we should ignore
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that all of that glowing stuff was
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causing terrible environmental carnage
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so they really need to stop lining its
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before the best hearing noises all
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mining town should move back to like you
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know the hills are alive with the sound
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of music where she is from because that
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place is beautiful
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she's there with the yaks on the grass
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covered Hill as the scenic mountains
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around what do you feel about raising
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yaks whatever she's doing she was able
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to support herself and it was way nicer
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than this crater infested gash in the
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earth filled with trains know maybe
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maybe that's where they'll end up with
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that that's where they'll end up well so
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this is the the end yes trees are our
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friends if they save the day of tree is
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floating in the sky perhaps there is a
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total virgin air from the usual miyazaki
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I know exactly
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alright so there's some great things i
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gotta mention that i did not feel like
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interrupting the flow of the podcast
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with little details that I loved
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there's the bit where shita is
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descending from the heavens and her body
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suddenly regains gravity
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yeah that is raising its heavy this rule
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animation I've seen you can find you
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look very very careful next time in his
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knees it already but it's like you know
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it's about to happen you know you see
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the crystal suddenly dimming and then
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suddenly all overweight lands on him as
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ridiculous as his his response to it is
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you can feel that when she when she
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suddenly gains weight crazy i got the
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other thing where he's working the break
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it like this all you got to you to work
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the the thing for the elevator right and
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he's you know this like maybe the first
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or second time he gets to write a letter
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to do is they're concentrating and he's
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doing and his little tongue sticking out
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of the corner of his mouth when he gets
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distracted by just seeing her feet about
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you know but she's still up there on the
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platform yeah it looks up at her feet
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for a second as one with the break
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lots of the lots of subtle moments in
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there that you know that you see it much
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more in later movies where they don't
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oversell it
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that whole thing is great because it's
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like oh yeah girl fell from the sky
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right but I got a difficult job and you
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trying to tell me boss the boss the
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girls like yeah yes dear whatever blah
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we're all going to starve I got things
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to worry about it
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there's also another great little detail
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i liked the bit where she hands the
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crystal through the wall to him and he
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put in my mouth so that it can blow a
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hole through the wall so we can get
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through and there's a couple of little
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bits where he opens his mouth slightly
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lineup is shot and you can his mouth
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closed a little close the crystal insect
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terrific and the last thing I promised
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last thing I love the sequence where
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dola passes out on her sky mosquito
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because she got hit by a pitch and
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angling this is attached by the thing to
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her belt so good and he's got to reach
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around her and of course she wakes up at
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the exact right moment and puts one hand
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on his head and it's just for the
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control with the other hand she's got a
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broken goggle like the glass tanks off
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of it and just look right and he said no
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is that only animemovies male Miyazaki's
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flying things make that neither not
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because we made that noise many times so
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I'm interested what everybody over also
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we heard from John there how he ranks
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this you know in terms of miyazaki at
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least we know John that did that it's
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it's a it's below nastya for you
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yeah it is is a like it does so many
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things the nausea does like i'm gonna
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say it's the same movie because clearly
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the settings different but it is is that
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in the genres of music movies there is
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the the wacky kids movies which is a
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whole section over there you've got the
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latter day I a little bit more artsy my
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kids really like how and spirited away
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and stuff and then in in the eighties
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you have these movies that are like
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adventure movies with varying degrees of
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seriousness and among them
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la posada has many things going for it i
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love the musical of the opening
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sequences great things in the middle but
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overall it feels less sophisticated to
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me then has got a lot of musical feels
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more fully realized and if you like this
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story has a more satisfying climax and
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conclusion and most damningly this movie
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does not have a post-credit sequence
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agility how everybody ended up in a
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bunch of cute montages anything that the
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only thing that matters is how the tree
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ended up you should not sure I don't
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care about that really floating entry
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through all phases of the day and
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talking about the the cartoonishly
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curved it so this one feels more like a
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trifle to me and if this was the only
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one that existed i would love it but
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when the not because they're as well I
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feel like this is just you know poor
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man's mask wow yeah I kind of thought
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that the tree was gonna die at the end
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because it got so far away from the
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earth there's no oxygen left plenty of
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Sun plenty of you don't need oxygen when
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you got a theory of yeah exactly right
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propellers for that matter but we put
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them on anyway carbon dioxide again
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alright Steve what about you how do you
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how do you feel overall the castle in
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the sky
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where's this rank you know I I like this
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a lot i thought it was I just like the
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the tone of it was a romp and nautica is
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not I actually like this better than
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Oscar because of that and I also like
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the lack of complexity i think it's it's
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nice to have a film that's just really
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legitimately an adventure tale and it
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doesn't really attempt to be anything
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more than that it's strangely enough it
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took me a little while to get into it
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but once I did I really enjoyed it but
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yeah I really dug it
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I'm not sure how it sits with say keys
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and totoro
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because those are kind of off by
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themselves they're not really the same
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kind of movie yeah they're not really
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even in the same universe and so it's
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hard for me to slap them in against that
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but but but against Moscow which is in a
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lot of ways a very similar movie I i
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enjoyed this more just because of the
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tone Erica what do you think i've seen a
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lot less miyazaki and previously know
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she was my favorite by like a million
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million miles but I actually think I
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like this better not buy not a ton
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it's kind of like just by a hair but
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actually for a lot of the same reasons
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that Steve said I just appreciated the
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fact that this was a fairly
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straightforward adventure story with you
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know two characters and that was another
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thing that I really appreciate it was
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that we had two characters working
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together and going on an adventure
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together whereas in now chica it's
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mostly mostly just her she's really the
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center of the movie and while I i love
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that now she has kind of more to say
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about you know humanity and in that sort
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of thing there's there's it's in castle
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in the sky but it's more like a hint of
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it that's kind of in the background and
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be the the adventure itself is for
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fronted and it just it really felt like
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a lot of the anime that I have enjoyed a
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lot throughout the years so i mean if if
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castle in the sky is your thing i do
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heck of a lot longer but it feels very
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cannibalizing it for some of the ideas
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for castle in the sky and then they
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show cuz it feels like that now that
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it's episodic but when you see
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characters like adventure stories lend
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themselves well to a bunch of you know
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25 minute episodes like it is like
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future boy conan is the you know the
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prototypical super early example a lot
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of the lot of the characters the ages of
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the characters how old is the boy hero
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in this story lots of anime series have
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boy heroes like that I need everyone to
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be dead of course so I'd like nothing
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better but
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i will say that now she had the fox
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squirrel being much more important is
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this did not have nearly enough Fox
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group had so many of them was like nine
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you gotta love that little bit of
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fanservice though I think whatever their
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PA scampered on the shoulders of a robot
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covered with moss that's kind of that's
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good that's true yes quantity quantity
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over quality but yeah actually I will
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point out that Nadia has a little grey
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lion cub named Kingu so you know that's
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another thing you know you to lean what
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what do you think i'm going with Stephen
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Eric on this and nossek i like because
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she's definitely the heroine she's got a
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lot of agency but it's it's definitely
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more serious and this is a little bit
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more lighthearted a little bit more fun
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little bit more teamwork II and I like
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that there's a lot of pink pink hair
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pink pants on everybody feel like dora
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yeah yeah yeah I love that and I love
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that because you wouldn't
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expectations of what color she would
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like pink is definitely not it you know
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gender stereotyping she's surrounded by
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men and she makes them all wear pink
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pants and yeah they slit pigtails this
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is the end of your past me as I can be
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44 is up with the cold pigtails she gets
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her picture shot off first of all poor
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little thing nothing is worse than
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having your pigtails shut up dont
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pigtails could choke a horse
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they're like this incredibly powerful
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make that nothing is worse than having
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your pigtail shot and anyone with the
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cartoon physics when they are surprised
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your pigtails go up like there in 10 a
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or something yes everybody helpfully
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works in context you totally by it's
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like wait a second is her pigtails
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floating yes they are
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yeah it's there yeah yes so I love that
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movies i saw so it's got kind of a
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special sentimental place in my heart to
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for the for just that reason
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so I'm mtm castle in the sky if I have
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to pit against anything and it's
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definitely in my top
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I don't know three or four miyazaki
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movies and we're all worried about you
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yeah this is a weird one very strong
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feelings about this movie because my kid
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really loved it when she was little and
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I think
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this was the second miyazaki movie I saw
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everything totoro a couple times and I I
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feel like in the taxonomy I want to
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slaughter alongside like porco rosso
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where it's like whoa what is this who is
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this for
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but like it's it's very well done it's
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it's you know it's charming and weird
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but uh yeah yeah we would not be in my
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top five but I i do think there's a lot
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to love about it
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the music is astonishing I like the way
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that sounds so mundane I like the way
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the characters are drawn i like the sort
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of straightforwardness the almost notnot
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dizziness of them but i like the
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straightforwardness of the way a lot of
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the characters that the two main
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characters are drawn
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ya know I i think it's terrific i did
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not have been quiet this episode partly
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because i did not feel I didn't love it
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as much as I just left my side there are
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others now they get big no-no this is
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nothing against the movie mean it's like
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John says I mean how do you grade on
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this particular curve it's crazy I mean
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like we just saw the I've seen the
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trailer for baby boss three times and I
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want to take my life like you look at
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this and it's like oh my god this is an
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extraordinary achievement but it is
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funny over time as i get older the ones
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that kind of rise and you know not cause
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one of those ones were like you know
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that it's it's so weird and it's so
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ambitious and it was you know done so
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relatively early now I have a great
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feelings like and like i said to you
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earlier on slack Jess and I such fond
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memories of you know my kid loving this
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movie when I was a kid so I still like
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it a lot i would still highly recommend
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it but like as I'm drawn to the weird
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miyazaki I i find myself like just mymy
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brain is still untangling a lot of
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things about what spirited away right
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house i know a lot of people howl's
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moving castle is not a lot of people's
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favorite movie but like that movie is
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strange the weird it is so weird
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there's so much I don't understand in
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that movie like what you know and John
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John explained to me something wise hair
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keeps changing like a bit like i I just
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I when it comes to weird miyazaki I like
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a pedal to the metal
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I think I think porco rosso little
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weirder than this one but early charming
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movie but yeah I i don't want to sound
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on plus i really do like it and enjoyed
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watching it but
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didn't grab me as much as it did a few
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years ago but i still really enjoyed
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funny I mean listen to you describe
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tosca and-and-and describe this movie I
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think I I kind of agree but with a
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different result which is nasik you know
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it is i I'd say more challenging it is
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weird and there are there it's I can
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appreciate it in many ways on an
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intellectual level at a way that maybe I
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don't castle in the sky
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however darker and more Graham yeah yeah
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yeah but it kick will it's not even
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close to the amount of funness that i
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have for castle in the sky
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I love this movie I want to give it a
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big hug
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it is not at the level of keeping a
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totoro because I consider those two of
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my best things ever made in the sunset
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the film but I put it above any other
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miyazaki I've seen I i love the
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adventure story i love the look of it
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you get the weird train stuff you get
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the weird airship stuff I i think it
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looks great
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it moves really well it is is it light
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is it a little bit of a trifle yeah I
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guess that's fair but it's so it's a
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really good adventure series so it is
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unimpeachable mean raiders of the lost
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ark is a really good adventure story too
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and that's one of my favorite one of my
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favorite movies I I can forgive I can
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forgive a lot for for having it be a a
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you know there's more to raiders that
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this is not raiders of the lost ark but
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it gave me some of those feelings and
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some of those scenes I so I like a lot
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although not at the level of of kiki or
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or totoro really going to see those
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everything castle kali-aastra there's no
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I have not
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well we'll see where it's lots but mmm
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yeah but it is this this is very much
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like that in terms of tone but that it
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but it that one is so much more i'm not
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gonna say primitive but it's like like
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prehistoric any way that we can maybe
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we'll get to it eventually
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well this is this is a swashbuckling
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pirate adventure like treasure island
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but you felt it didn't have quite enough
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airship yeah we don't have we wouldn't
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do Howl's Moving Castle we have not M
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stands my favorite
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it's my favorite I wonder where we will
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go next with miyazaki movie club it
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could be there we could go on a moving
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castle its paws
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able to party o.o know huh all right
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things to say about you
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I'll i thought it was alright my yeah
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it's weird but we'll get there we'll get
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there all right but that is for another
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podcast so for this podcast I think it's
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time to wrap up another edition of our
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miyazaki movie club and I want to thank
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my panelists for joining me in this
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adventure in the skies see lots
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thank you very much yeah you can't be a
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sensitive woman like me without learning
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a few things
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hmm very nice very nice Merlin Mann
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thank you call me captain william simms
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thank you I was gonna see nothing's
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worse than getting your pigtail shut off
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but everyone already takes out all day
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anyway it's great
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nothing's worse than getting your
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pigtail show Erica inside thank you more
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fox squirrels more fox squirrels and the
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John siracusa did we determine if the
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robot is a robot or not i think we did
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that but i can tell you that if you keep
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watching the credits at the end you find
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out the tree talks
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oh that's right in my wheelhouse can
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anybody hear the tree is the question
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every tree floats above the earth and
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nobody here tree going through to make a
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it says me-yow in the voice of phil
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hartman yeah yeah and i have been your
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host Jason still thank you for listening
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to this edition of the incomparable
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we'll see you next time
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