The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► quinn marc production in color [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► tonight's episode singing the song hey [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► diddle diddle the cat and the bird [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► special guest star tony franciosa act 1 [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► and unusual delivery and Tom couple [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► number 181 february2014 go back to the [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► incomparable i'm your host Jason smell [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► and i'd like to introduce my panel we're [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► going to be discussing something not a [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► particular work more like a trend little [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► bit about casting a little bit about [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► franchises departure for us i think it [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► will be fun but I've been wrong before [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► so let's try it and see what happens [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► Andy and Nicole joins me for this [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► adventure the down strange paths hi Andy [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► hi Jason I today I good to have you here [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► Jason brightman is here not this is not [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► a comic book club episode but and it's [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► getting to where i am it's been a little [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► while but your back and it's great to [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► have you here back it's great to be here [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► thanks Erica and sign also joins us on [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► our adventure [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► hello hello David Laura also joins us [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► hello there the other day I'm i read a [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► new story about how Disney and paramount [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► and Lucasfilm which is owned by disney [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► now may I came to an arrangement for the [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► disposition of the Indiana Jones [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► franchise and most specifically the [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► first four or as we like to call it [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► three movies Indiana Jones series [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► why would we call it for I don't [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► understand that's a strange joke it [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► doesn't make any sense there are only [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► three Indiana Jones movies so they [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► remain in the possession of paramount [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► and of course Lucasfilm has its existing [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► relationship there and they share the [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► profits and whatever that is so future [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► blu ray sales and downloads and whatever [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► 40 and a time will be shared but new [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► movies with the question was new movies [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► in the Indiana Jones series if ever [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► there would be some who would do them [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► what with the deal being so as a part of [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► this deal what terms undisclosed disney [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► can now make Indiana Jones movies and [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► that franchise can move forward and [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► Steven Spielberg and George Lucas [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► occasionally talk about [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► another Indiana Jones movie and it [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► struck me that Harrison Ford not a [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► spring chicken [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► he has as my notes say getting very old [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► he's he's you know he looks great but [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► he's getting up there [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► time time happens to everybody and I [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► thought to myself you know they're [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► inevitably they will cast a new Indiana [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► Jones at some point and that led me down [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► this interesting rabbit hole which is no [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► you can be the judge about with this [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► rabbit hole is interesting i can tell [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► you that there's been a rabbit down here [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► it's what happens when a character goes [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► from being a attached singularly to is [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► to an actor the character is the actor [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► and that's just how it is and that [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► moment where it becomes something [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► different now this this happens all the [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► time in let's say the theater where [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► you've got different actors playing the [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► role in different productions you know [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► Shakespeare's famous parts there's no [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► one definitive romeo juliet or King Lear [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► or any any character you can name [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► because that that part has been played [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► there may be ones that we like better a [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► hamlet that we like better or worse but [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► many actors play those parts but Indiana [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► Jones has only ever been at least as an [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► adult I know the young indiana jones bit [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► ly let's not go there [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► it'sit's Harrison for he is the main [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► Indiana Jones this was true with all the [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► Star Trek characters from the original [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► Star Trek until JJ Abrams reboot brought [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► in a new crew led by chris pine as james [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► t kirk instead of william shatner it's [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► also the moment in Doctor Who when they [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► decided that doctor who wasn't always [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► going to be a show starring william [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► hartnell but that they were at as [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► detailed in in the excellent TV movie an [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► adventure in space and time at the [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► moment where they said we're going to [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► get somebody else to play this part and [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► he's going to transform and become [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► Patrick Troughton James Bond another [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► good example so i thought that's what we [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► would talk about a little bit you know [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► worth worth an hour to check talk about [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► the pitfalls of making that transition [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► you know maybe what we would hope to see [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► in the future of the you know some [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► franchises do we do we like this idea [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► they've been for I think for Jack Ryan's [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► now on the movie screen but you know it [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► started with alec baldwin we thought [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► okay he's going to [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► with us a long time and then that was [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► one movie and out and about casting in [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► general you'll win when is apart so [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► iconic that should never be touched is [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► there could there ever be such a thing [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► you know so casting and franchises and [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► when franchises decide to move on and [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► move to a different actor this is what [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► this is what prompted me to have this [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► conversation now that I've kind of get [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► done my little brain dump of what I [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► wanted to talk about i guess i should [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► throw it out there to you guys we know [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► Eric let's start with you I know that [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► you and I definitely share a great [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► affinity for Doctor Who I that was [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► certainly one of the first things I [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► talked I thought about if if they the [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► producers of that show had decided that [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► it William Hartnell was the only person [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► who could play the doctor this show [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► would be essentially a footnote about [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► one of it like like quatermass it would [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► be this kind of quaint black-and-white [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► show on the BBC in the sixties that [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► nobody remembers anymore i really mean [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► more or less that's what has mostly [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► disappeared [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► heck yeah it's very hard not they're [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► just gone yeah what it would more of [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► them have even survived with it even if [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► business as a distributed [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► internationally if they had only had [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► those first two or three seasons [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► no probably not and I think I mean in in [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► addition to longevity which certainly [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► being able to change actors gives you [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► that I think a lot of people have argued [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► that the show [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► doctor who became what it was the day [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► that Patrick Troughton took over and not [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► because he was great although he was [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► definitely great but just because that [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► added that entirely new facet to the [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► show and took it in a different [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► direction for the first time ever I [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► think it was an incredibly bold move and [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► I'm it could have turned out terribly [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► and people could have could have [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► rebelled and stopped watching the show [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► and they didn't which you asked a [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► question a minute ago [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► are there any parts that are so iconic [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► that you just should never ever try to [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► recast them and personally I feel that [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► there's there's no such thing I think [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► it's always worth a try [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► most of the time it's probably not going [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► to work especially like remake some say [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory I [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► was not a fan of that remake because I [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► thought that part was was perfectly [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► played by Gene Wilder but sometimes it [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► works out really well like in the Doctor [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► Who case [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► yeah and it ends up defining the show in [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► that show is I feel like that moment [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► when they when they cast Patrick [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► Troughton to replace William Hartnell is [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► the moment that the show went on its [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► path that would end up meaning that it [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► survived for 50 years and if you know [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► not just not just that there's no way if [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► you could have a show with one act for [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► 50 years but that it it changed how we [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► thought of that character and and how [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► they defined that that show so it could [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► renew its itself David you are in [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► addition to writing crazy radio dramas [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► for us and appearing on almost every [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► panel that damn or it doesn't appear on [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► you write plays and so I i'm interested [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► in your perspective on this from the [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► theater side because obviously in the [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► theater you know the this isn't parts [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► aren't aren't sacred right it's not it [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► it's only in movies and TV where we [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► really see like oh no I can't believe [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► anybody else would be Indiana Jones [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► other than Harrison Ford [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► oh yeah I mean I'm you were used to [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► understudies you know if somebody gets [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► sick someone else is going to step into [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► that role and you'll find a little slip [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► in your ear playbill program that says [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► the role of so-and-so will be played at [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► this performance by blank and you know [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► even even roles that are iconic i mean i [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► don't know like Hello Dolly you know you [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► think of Carol Channing you might think [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► of probaly or Ethel Merman that hasn't [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► stopped hundreds and thousands of groups [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► from putting the show on you know you [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► always have that souvenir of say the [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► original cast recording for a musical [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► but that's that's how you learn the [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► songs when you gonna do in high school I [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► was thinking about an iconic stage stage [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► character set of characters might I gave [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► myself a laugh through my own stupidity [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► as I so often do when I thought you know [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► I I'm really proud of the fact that I i [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► well I was very lucky to see the [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► original cast of the producers on [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► Broadway so I got to see Nathan Lane and [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► Matthew Broderick which is great except [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► of course that the original characters [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► were zero mostel and gene wilder and his [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► right so they made it their own [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► you know you ETA you forgot all about [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► the move [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► be at least halfway through the show you [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► know at least in that production [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► I don't know about other other castes [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► but Mei remember when they were [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► previewing it and Nathan Lane went on I [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► guess was David Letterman and they did [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► the opening song basically and up until [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► that point it had been kind of you know [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► and I don't know if this is gonna work [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► and then they do the number and i think [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► was you know five minutes long and at [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► the end of this it's nito 1230 at night [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► I'm going [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► yes I want to see that now um so and i [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► love the move right there was no no sir [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► no sense of sacrilege happening there [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► no no not at all it's it's sort of like [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► you know you can ask people who was the [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► first actor to play James Bond nine out [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► of ten people are gonna go home Sean [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► Connery it was a guy named Barry Nelson [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► in 1955 1956 they did a one hour version [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► of casino royale for a CBS show called [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► climax [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► it's awful huh [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► he plays he plays them as an American [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► Jimmy bond we think of James Bond and [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► he's the closest thing we have to a Time [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► Lord who is not a Time Lord you don't [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► even people now saying i want to see [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► Idris Elba as James Bond well why not [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► yeah although the the Jimmy bond thing I [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► mean that I think some of this isn't is [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► not about who goes who goes first as [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► much as a who everybody meets in apart i [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► think there's something about that I'm [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► Connery right that that is it was on my [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► list for sure the idea of it that [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► Connery left we left why'd you only live [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► twice 11 and they replaced him with [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► George Lazenby but but that moment [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► Connor left i mean there is there is [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► also one of the issues here is will [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► audience acceptance I mean will the [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► audience except somebody other than sean [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► connery in a major motion pictures james [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► bond will they accept George lasenby [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► maybe not although I I think history a [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► lot of people now look back in that [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► movie and say it's actually not a bad [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► movie and he's fine or you know when [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► when Roger Moore you is another [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► larger-than-life figure replaces Sean [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► comic will people accept that will you [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► no will people accept [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► Zachary Quinto as Spock right we'll [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► we'll people except somebody as the [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► second person in the in the part and [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► then you know Indiana Jones again to [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► come back to that will people except [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► some you know modern 35 year old actor [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► getting cast as Indiana Jones movie yeah [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► what it's like back in the fifties when [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► the Lone Ranger was you know a popular [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► show on television and supposedly [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► clayton moore asked for a raise because [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► well it's a popular show and they said [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► that anyone can put on the mask so for [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► one year in the middle of that run the [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► lone Ranger's played by an actor named [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► john hart and the audience revolted and [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► one year later boom there's clayton [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► moore and he got his rays and and you [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► think he's wearing a hat and a mask the [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► whole time [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► what's the difference but there's just [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► something in the way he played it i [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► don't know there's definitely a [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► difference [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► I mean I just thinking of Babylon 5 when [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► I'm not often on character who is under [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► so much makeup you can barely tell who's [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► who [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► they changed actresses for a one-season [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► i think it was [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► yeah and yeah I was displeased you can [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► tell I'm not the same person [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► yeah yeah I mean she was fine but just [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► to die it wasn't the Natasha had come to [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► normal huh [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► Andy what do you think about this [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► subject [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► well we talked about a whole bunch of [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► different circumstances here you have I [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► i also had a Hello Dolly though i was i [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► have the more the more glaring [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► difference between is did the diviners [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► check Carol Channing and Barbra [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► Streisand who was a high-wattage [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► Broadway superpower even at the time so [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► i can understand why that deal was [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► struck but what a damn shame that Carol [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► Channing's performance was not recorded [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► for posterity [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► although perhaps given how bad that [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► movie was it was ok i mean you have you [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► have heavy [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► ok I'm sorry will begin looking back on [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► track there are lots of its on the stage [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► there's a tradition that here is the [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► here is the script for the players the [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► music for the play we're going to cast [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► and we're gonna mount various production [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► so that's kind of goes with those par [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► for the course and then there are also [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► times when a character just fails to [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► launch with the original casting [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► yeah you were brought up course James [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► Bond but also peter sellers wasn't the [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► first person to play clue so that was [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► actually Alan Arkin hookah who else [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► could play lieutenant Columbo but Peter [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► Falk but there was an acrobat by the [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► name of bird freed who played the [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► trombone the original pilot and you [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► could certainly say that those [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► characters and those actors prove that [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► these characters weren't really great in [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► and of themselves that required exactly [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► the right actor to bring them to life [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► but it's a different thing when you [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► start talking about you have an [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► established character like hella like [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► Indiana Jones i almost said Harrison [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► Ford because it's it's her husband Lord [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► will now be played by decra spine see [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► all the hairs Lord story you'll get [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► chris pine you put on for you would put [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► on press the prosthetics to make him [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► look like Harrison Ford and then put [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► prosthetics on top of that to make it [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► look like Harrison Ford wearing makeup [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► I think Chris Pine should play every [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► part that gets it gets expensive it gets [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► it gets complicated right every part now [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► it is it's it's hard to contemplate [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► though because on the one hand we want [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► to say that but these Indiana Jones [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► movies are fine they're perfect they're [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► great [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► there's really no need to start them all [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► over again if not for the fifth not for [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► the the necessity of Hollywood to say [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► that we need to reboot the franchise me [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► to start creating new movies we can't [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► the weed we can't just simply rely on [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► the equity that we built out of these uh [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► these four movies that we can keep [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► selling forever and ever and ever and [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► the thing is they're not going to cast a [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► 35 year old actor they're going to cast [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► a 23 24 25 year old actor and it's [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► probably not going to be somebody who [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► starts off with so that brings so much [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► to the bank as Harrison Ford did [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► remember that by the time that he was he [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► was that he was the guy we knew from [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► Star Wars it was it was Han Solo in the [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► thirties as an archaeologist and he [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► brought that with them from frame 1 of [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► that movie and you can't imagine even [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► someone 35 years old to 35 year old [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► actor today who could jump into that [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► role and instantly kick-started that way [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► you certainly can't imagine a 25-year [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► old actor [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► doing that particularly given that they [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► have two sisters from frame 1 they have [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► to make us forget about Harrison Ford [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► and it's it's I know this how Hollywood [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► works but you're kind of frustrated by [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► that the last guy I just like I think [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► everybody else they can come off their [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► list of you know trying to say someone [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► is gonna be the first to say Darren [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► Stevens so I can't say there and Stevens [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► but i found as i was writing up this [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► list I can I was surprised to find [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► myself writing down charlie brown that [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► sort of proves two sides of this of this [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► coin that of it was very radical when [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► they in the city in the sixties when [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► they cast actual children in the voice [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► of the Peanuts characters for the first [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► TV commercial then the then the first [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► special and as they age out of the role [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► they would hire new children to play [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► those roles you don't have a consistency [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► that you would have liked of of a bart [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► simpson so but that's kind of okay [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► because you know the you understand that [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► that's that's how they do that through [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► the character however now that we know [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► that they're working on a new version [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► new peanuts movie that is going to be [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► done in 3d and to me this is almost [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► exactly like recasting the character [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► because in the UK even in traditional 2d [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► animation you could not get animation [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► that was flattered than the animation [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► you'd have in the peanuts specials and [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► the penis movies [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► I mean it really is like looking at [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► flatland you had characters that [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► couldn't even that they build lenses [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► which was talking about how how hard it [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► was the first time they had animate [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► Charlie Brown and Snoopy because these [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► characters had never been designed to do [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► something as simple as touch the top of [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► their heads they're so flat and so now [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► they have to sort of recast them and try [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► to figure out how does this work in 3d [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► how does this not only doesn't work in [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► three dimensions but how does it work in [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► something approximating natural lighting [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► where they finally have to say finally [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► have to answer the question of what does [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► Charlie Brown's head really look like is [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► he bald or does he have just like light [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► blonde hair that's like--that's so short [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► that it it gets drawn as just a few [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► wisps of hair [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► and so it's it's just part of it but [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► quick gets down to in all these cases is [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► the user interface between the the [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► viewer and the movie itself that if a [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► character is so closely matched and [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► people's heads to Harrison Ford or to [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► the way we see Charlie Brown all the [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► time it's just going to be such a [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► failure of user interface will not be [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► able to get into this movie because [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► we're going to say [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► Shia LaBeouf is not Indiana Jones I [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► don't see anybody don't see him [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► I don't see him getting out of a problem [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► of not being able to open a carton of [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► milk let alone being face-to-face with [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► temple by a giant rolling stone ball [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► that's that's the problem facing he goes [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► into the big the big cavern and there's [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► a sitting on the pedestal is the is a [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► carton of milk and he's like Africans [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► we're gonna go where do they make this [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► so hard for you could've ended then you [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► pull damn so Andy's a gonna just going [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► to subtitle this this episode when they [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► ruin everything everything you know the [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► same let me just post script that it's [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► it's always worth trying because because [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► there's always if if it's horrible the [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► original movie is still there [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► I i agree with you that I'd that the the [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► remake of Willy Wonka absolutely did [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► nothing for me but that didn't affect [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► the fact that there's still the gene [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► wilder version is still perfect and [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► there's always a chance it'll be very [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► very good so he gotta get you got it you [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► got except that just because you know [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► are the new generation Spock might not [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► be the same as the spot we grew up in [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► its / is a perfectly valid Spock it's [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► perfectly sturdy dr. it's a perfectly ok [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► no it's fine it's fine it'll work [TS]

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00:21:32 ◼   ► beautiful flowers that are still [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► beautiful in my house right now i mean i [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► think i mentioned Shakespeare earlier i [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► think that was that was the pitch the JJ [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► Abrams I know took to the actors when he [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► was trying to cast them in the in the [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► Star Trek relaunch he said look I don't [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► don't do a wave Shatner impression [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► oh god don't do that i'm going to do you [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► know consider consider all those you [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► know classic Shakespeare characters that [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► everybody brings their own [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► interpretation of the part you know [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► interpret Captain Kirk interpret mr. [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► Spock don't do an impression although [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► there are a few moments and JJ Abrams [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► first Star Trek movie where there [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► are some uh I think intentional [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► impressions uh Karl Urban does a divorce [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► Kelly in a couple of parts that's great [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► and that's not linked the its brief but [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► it's it's a good scowl and continuity [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► exists he was cast for his eyes his [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► eyebrows yeah he's going to have [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► articulated eyebrows to be McCoy after [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► that do whatever you want just inhabit [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► behalf but think of the character don't [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► think the actor think of the character [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► and try to be true as an actor to this [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► to this character now I you know any [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► other Jones III wasn't even suggesting [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► that they would remake raiders of the [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► lost ark got that terrifies me but just [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► the idea that they make new Indiana [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► Jones would say this is Indiana Jones in [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► the you know and just like let's pretend [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► it never happened and just go on a new [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► YouTube in the twenties and I you know [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► jason reitman you've been a little [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► you've been a little quiet i want to get [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► you into the action here what do you [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► think about all this [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► yeah well i think the and he brings up a [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► good point about being too close to the [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► one that comes before I think the [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► superman movie superman returns with [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► Brandon Roth oh yeah it was too much [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► like trying to be Christopher Reeve in [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► the movie was a little bit too much like [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► an homage to the ones that come before [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► and it didn't work he definitely was i [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► you got the sense he was cast because he [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► was the most Christopher Reeve like [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► after not right and certainly the most [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► Superman like just read like of all the [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► Christopher Reeves around here the [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► Christopher radius exactly anything like [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► the the ones that i think are really [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► successful or like the doctor who's or [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► James Bond where they don't try to it [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► they reinvent the show or the movie not [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► just recast the character because the [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► the first three doctors those shows bear [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► no resemblance to each other they're [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► completely different shows the little [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► bit less so in the modern era but in the [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► James Bond like Daniel Craig is a [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► completely different bond then all the [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► ones that came before because it's the [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► movies are of a different time and [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► they're not trying to be the spy drama [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► anymore at least not in Casino Royale [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► which was his most successful the the in [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► that one [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► I forget who was it said that you had to [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► sort of like captured from the very [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► first moment i was against Daniel Craig [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► when he was cast because he didn't look [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► like bond he was you know blonde and [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► Jack and I was completely against it [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► even as the movie began but by the last [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► scene where he finally says bond James [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► Bond I had like he was the only bond [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeahs that point and they sort [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► of used the movie to transition the [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► audience as it's all about the magic of [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► casting where I was having a discussion [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► met at the Denver Comic Con on a panel [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► ones because they're people who they're [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► getting also they're getting all worried [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► because there's rumors that oh my god [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► they're thinking about the new Fantastic [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► Four reboot they're thinking about [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► casting a black actor as a human torch [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► we cannot have this happen and the thing [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► is it's it's all about casting the right [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► actor with if the if you cast the right [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► actor guaranteed like three minutes [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► after they make their first appearance [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► you the the audience forgets all about [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► whatever they thought this character [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► look like getting back to the producers [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► i also was lucky enough to see the [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► producers during the Broadway run and to [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► me whenever I think of max max [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► Bialystock now I style i think of Nathan [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► Lane I don't think of you know I I don't [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► think of the original actor i still [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► think of gene wilder as as Leo because I [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► don't think Matthew Broderick really [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► worked but again if you cast right it [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► thatthat's 95 percentile our 10 months [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► tellin it and Matthew Broderick are [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► sitting on the sidelines clutching their [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► blankies now the phenomenon of of making [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► it different enough and not trying to [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► get two copies is similar to just kind [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► of in a flipped way what actors go [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► through when you have an actor that's [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► known for playing one particular role [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► when they move on and leave that show or [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► whatever it is to try to do something [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► different or do something else if they'd [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► pick another role that's very similar to [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► the first roll [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► it's just like a pale carbon copy of [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► that and I think a lot of x axis actors [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► really excel when they tried to change [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► it up and go for something different and [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► I think it works the same way with [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► characters if you are trying to copy [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► make you know another Christopher Reeve [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► ease Superman it's it's it's clearly [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► just imitation and it falls on its face [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► real fast [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► I guess that's the genius of casting and [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► originally he wasn't going to be Indiana [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► Jones forecasting Harrison Ford is in [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► the energy [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► was it really played off of his success [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► as han Solo and it was essentially the [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► same people involved in doing it and so [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► maybe that's the exception that proves [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► the rule but I i think that's true okay [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► you knew this guy he was a lovable rogue [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► he is lovable rogue ear again over here [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► when it's it's really weird to imagine [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► Tom Selleck was the first choice and the [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► only reason he couldn't do it was [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► because that they picked up the pilot [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► for magnum and so you know when magma [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► zone and that story came out of it [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► well MB be interesting i don't know and [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► you know I saw high road to China and [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► when no no I see what they were going [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► for the right i mean david hate you and [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► I are right [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► RRR Meg me I aficionados we can say and [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► and like Indiana Jones like Harrison [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► Ford is Indiana Jones magnum he's all [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► again one of those heroes who is human [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► and gets hurt and is not you know Johnny [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► square job but actually is like you get [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► the sense that it's a lot of hard work [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► and it sometimes is quite painful to be [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► an adventurer and and and I so I get it [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► I get what they were going for with with [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► him thinking of him for that part [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► because you know I could see him playing [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► something like that but you don't know [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► not Harrison and in i think was like [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► maybe the next last episode or two [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► episodes from the end of magnum they did [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► an episode called legend of the lost art [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► and and he's got the leather jacket in [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► the fedora he's doing the whole Indiana [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► Jones thing and and when I watched that [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► the first time I went now now this is [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► why i think the most part actors who are [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► smart they don't get they don't get too [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► upset that I like I was supposed to be [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► Marty McFly and I can they precast me [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► and I think I could have been this [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► legendary guide had these three movies [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► sorry [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► the old sarum exactly that but that's [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► but that that I think I think the smart [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► actor says no this became a huge success [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► because they put that person in that [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► role of my it might have been a [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► different kind of success had I had that [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► movie but this is not they could have [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► just put anybody in that role and had [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► Indiana Jones casting is huge right [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► casting there are there are TV shows and [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► in movies too but I think about it with [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► TV shows especially the ones that they [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► go on to last eight or nine years that [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► that I look at it and say you know [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► sitcoms yes there are better set comes [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► in there are worse that comes but there [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► are also lots of succumbs that are fine [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► they're mediocre they're fine they're [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► they're funny they're good they're well [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► written but what are the ones that last [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► and become huge hits and without without [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► fail i would say it's because of the [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► casting because they got the right [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► actors i watched a actually watched a [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► documentary on Three's Company last [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► night and I hadn't realized that the [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► that the the pilot that actually aired [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► was the third version of the pilot [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► because they had to change actors i mean [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► they had John Ritter from the very [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► beginning but they just at first didn't [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► did not hit it with the first two girls [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► and then try to get and then finally on [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► the third time they ended up with [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► Suzanne Somers and George do with her [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► name is escaping just wait yes thank you [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► very much and like that was the magic [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► the magic key and then when Suzanne [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► Somers left they tried to replace her [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► and didn't do it right the first time [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► and ended up with one season and out and [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► and then hit on the nurse after that I [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► think Jack Tripper also sitting on the [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► nurse after that I'm sorry [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► singing man i don't want your baby later [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► the the original pilot was written by [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► Larry Gelbart who did mash and you know [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► funny thing happened on the way to the [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► forum and all these you know great [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► things and it didn't work either [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► and you don't see his name associated [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► with threes company anywhere except in a [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► flip so so it's inside combination of [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► you know I mean pretty much john ritter [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► was it and as soon as they fixed [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► everything around him that kind of work [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► yeah cap I'm casting us is is so huge [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► and and you can see when they get it [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► wrong when they get it right well a [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► coupling which we mentioned before on [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► the show that they took Steven Moffat [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► scripts which are brilliant and coupling [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► is one of my favorite sitcoms of all [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► time and and I designed that the DVD [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► packaging for that just throwing that [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► out [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► yes that's right i have that DVD have [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► the right to have them [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► yes that was it in an earlier life jason [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► reitman design that packaging and then [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► they just took those scripts and made [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► them in America with new people [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► some actors of whom have gone on to have [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► other roles and shown that they're [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► perfectly fine actors and it was a [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► disaster [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► it was a disaster and it wasn't the [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► scripts were bad it was that the the [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► scripts and the people didn't go [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► together and it failed and you know and [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► the UK the same scripts were brilliant [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► and it wasn't the accents and was not [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► the accidents that were the problem is [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► totally the accidents there's a little [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► bit more sense i think i think that's I [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► think that's part of the key here that [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► if they were to cast a new actor as [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► Superman as Indiana Jones as any bending [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► famous name as Colombo's any famous name [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► you want to mention and they tried to [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► tell the audience that this is the exact [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► same movie series this is Indiana Jones [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► chapter 5 this happens after crystal [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► skull try to ignore the fact that this [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► is not Harrison for the role but this is [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► the same story that you spent the past [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► 20 years watching we would not buy or [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► lease would be a and B inhumanly [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► difficult thing for that movie to pull [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► off whereas if you say that this is a [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► brand that we're rebooting it this is a [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► brand new series we're starting a brand [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► new Superman series we're starting a [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► brand new star trek series with new [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► actors there is some legacy with the old [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► one but we're not saying that this has [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► any sort of logical through line from [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► whatever stories or whatever scenarios [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► were from the original then when you [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► start off with this clean slate like [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► that i think it just prepares the [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► audience to accept that this is going to [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► be some things that are brand-new from [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► here on out I mean doctor who is [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► certainly going to be is the difference [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► here because they're they're sort of [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► explicitly saying no this is this the [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► the doctor regenerates so there's going [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► to be a new people even in James Bond I [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► think that part I think that most James [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► Bond fans write a little bit of [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► backstory a little bit of that says that [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► at some point this there's no way that [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► james bond that the the the spy who is [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► carrying the name james bond is going to [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► live forever he's gonna get killed in [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► action at which point they simply take [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► his car they take his ID they take his [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► stuff and give it to the next guy who's [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► going to be dead in three in three years [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► anyway and make him James Bond because [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► it wasn't under where it says that on [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► the back and in the opening in the [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► opening scene of on her majesty's secret [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► service George Lazenby [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► his bond hinted that he says this never [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► happened to the other guy the other guy [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► yeah this is this is why I always I [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► always I i like the rock a lot more than [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► I probably should because i always see [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► it's a James Bond movie i always see it [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► as this this is again at the at the end [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► of shark honorees last likes to do it [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► that adventure ended with James Bond [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► being thrown into jail and of course his [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► Majesty's Secret Service had a disavow [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► them completely so he's just been [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► rotting in jail for 30 years and we're [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► seeing a great james bond money with [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► nicolas cage as a Bond girl that's where [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► it falls down [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► it's not as noted that when you know [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► kissing royale is a good example where [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► we're seeing behind the beginning and [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► yet it's not as sort of like made to fit [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► into some continuity although the most [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► recent bond they get the old aston [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► martin and it's like oh it's this old [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► car and he's like supposedly knows about [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► it it's like but it's like 2013 and this [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► but it doesn't really make any sense a [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► but other than as a nod to the past but [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► I liked that it was it was 15th [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► anniversary it was common sure we're [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► starting fresh and it's and it's fine [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► and Batman Begins is the same way right [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► there's no there's no baggage there it's [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► like here's Christian Bale he's Bruce [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► Wayne he's gonna learn to be Batman and [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► we're coming on that journey with him I [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► I can't believe we haven't mentioned [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► we've talked about so many seventies TV [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► shows which is the direction i didn't [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► think this would go [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► colombo Three's Company magnum p.i SATs [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► ok old TV shows we haven't talked about [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► Batman which is another thing which is [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► not quite original actor because there [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► were lots of original actors like with [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► Superman and yet that's it that's a case [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► to where you have to keep rethinking the [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► part well yeah every version of that is [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► different we add the the cereals in the [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► forties which are wonderful when you [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► watch them with rifftrax and then the [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► Adam West the Adam West one which is [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► intentionally funny and then let's see [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► didn't really I mean you had the cartoon [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► version in the seventies which was okay [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► right and then you didn't like a [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► live-action Batman until Michael Keaton [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► who is again completely different p.m. [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► at least in that case the source [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► material had gone through so many [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► iterations from the 30 to 40 to 50 right [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► that it [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► there is so many aspects to that [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► character that you can take all these [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► different takes already exists in the [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► source material of the bob kane Batman [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► the neal adams Batman the john byrne [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► Batman the frank miller Batman that they [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► looked around had already been played [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► pretty well yeah yeah one of the [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► earliest examples of this is back in the [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► forties there was a series of films [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► about a hero named the Falcon didn't [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► dresses anything he was like this ain't [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► where it's just sort of the suave [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► debonair crime-solving guy and he was [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► played by george sanders and after a [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► couple of movies Sanders said you know [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► what I don't want to do this anymore and [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► so they they wrote a film called the [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► Falcons brother and his brother shows up [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► and they solve a crime together and then [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► tom conway keeps playing the Falcon he [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► just assumes the name from his brother [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► and that's the rest of the series which [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► that's a different way of doing it but [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► it's kind of inspiring middle segment [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► there though [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► yes Alan and his brother into this and [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► it sounds set so sweet i was find the [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► audience reaction to this very [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► interesting i think i think it's a [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► little different when you have a show as [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► andy said like doctor who were or film [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► franchise like James Bond where by now [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► it's become expected but for the at the [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► first time you know people i'm sure [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► freaked out I wasn't around back in the [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► sixties but i have to it [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► expect a lot of people went through the [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► same freaked out that other people are [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► going through now thinking about a new [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► Indiana Jones or a new Luke Skywalker or [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► whatever it might be and I wonderful get [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► to the point down the road where people [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► are just expecting another Luke [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► Skywalker every 10 years or so I mean [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► not that people don't scream and yell [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► and throw hissy fits at every single [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► actor that's cast as the doctor and [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► doctor who but they're there they're [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► screaming after the casting as opposed [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► to before and you're not screaming about [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► the casting just that it exists it's who [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► gets cast no no it's totally different [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► now do all these two young we work with [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► the big talker talking online with [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► something about the the new robocop [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► movie and I don't have any sort of [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► emotional attachment robocop was it was [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► cool movie but I'm not gonna be dear mr. [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► Twitter person [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► he brung into think I don't really care [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► about it [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► not like this one of the Internet's [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► foremost robocop Ian's I am how to raise [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► your cooperation of the franchise as the [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► leading editor of the robocop wikipedia [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► page of which you should be aware if you [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► report to you screen writer every [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► robocup movie [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► do not ignore robocop 3 the [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► direct-to-video sequel that has [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► important continuity in it [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► you're clearly using mark 7 robocop leg [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► armor that was made after they made [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► Peter whether complained about teaching [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► in the lower calf area is once the [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► original little cup by the way but it [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► was allergic to paint [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► yes yeah my god you broke me all the but [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► sees it that was with buddy ups and make [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► good for losing the Tin Woodsman got to [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► get they get they gave them what they [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► gave him once piece of sunday start work [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► also his is his second surance was [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► lapsing so if they gave him one day of [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► work for the work he get his insurance [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► read so that was it wasn't it was a nice [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► nod to the classical it to the past it's [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► called Robo sheriff back then energy [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► would watch burnaby robocop they did a [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► rewrite yeah uh I don't know I kind of [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► think that Robocop is more of a Mannix [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► type you know sort of a touch Conners [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► sort of you know it gets a lot of use [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► sort of sort of armor pattern sort of [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► thing [TS]

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00:40:24 ◼   ► uncomfortable when i was about to say is [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► that as it doesn't I don't get upset [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► about it but it's more like I wish that [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► they would create a brand new iconic [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► character for a new generation of moving [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► goers instead of doing something that [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► plugs into my generations nostalgia [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► I mean we're we're in our forties now [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► we're probably not going to go see a [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► movie go go to the movies to pay $11 to [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► see I'm a character were probably got [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► sick of 15 years ago want to create what [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► where where is where is the wonderful [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► new character that how it was going to [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► reel in 20 years from booting and [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► rooting for this generation he can't [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► just remake things you also have to make [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► new things [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► vibro i wrote down in that email that I [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► said to you guys the you know who knows [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► the star wars will do this we're talking [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► about they're gonna do you know episode [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► 7 and it's going to have the original [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► actors I apparently it needs in these [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► roles but i'm sure that unless the new [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► Star Wars movies become you know [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► gigantic cultural hits forever i mean [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► i'm sure it's inevitable that they will [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► go and remake star wars right they'll [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► tear it up and we use it when we make it [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► will be a new ally and just the money [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► the money I feel like it's an almost [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► inevitable that they will 20 years from [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► now this feels like the smartest thing [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► for them to do is to cast the 17 hours [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► elderly older like older Jedi people [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► from from the original cast so now again [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► the middle of the people in there the [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► their forties and fifties and sixties [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► are wow great we get to see Harrison [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► Ford as han solo again but also have [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► Bert make most of the movie about brand [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► new characters because I get it shocks [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► us to say this but people who are like [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► in their teens early twenties they don't [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► have the same [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► connection to Luke Skywalker that we [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► have the phone and I'm just I'm just [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► saying there's a difference there [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► standing and now in there they're gonna [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► do that but I just feel like it's [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► inevitable that eventually they're gonna [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► be like and let's just go back to the [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► like with the slight with Star Trek [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► build those said let's go back to that [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► original and tell that story again the [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► first one was really good let's use that [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► Chris Pine can be obi-wan Kenobi because [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► we'll be old enough to find that i [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► really like the clone wars series and [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► that was stuff that had absolutely no [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► nostalgia factor for me at all and that [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► that's where I see that I i love the [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► fact that Frances that in the star wars [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► universe that there is a star wars for [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► pretty much every generation out there [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► that has very little contact with its [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► part of the same shared universe but has [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► very little contact with the star wars [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► the seventies and eighties or the star [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► wars of the nineties for the star wars [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► of a of the first decade of the 21st [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► century [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► that's how you keep a franchise alive [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► not by always replaying the the first [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► three scripts but by finding a way to [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► just expand the territory and find new [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► ground i agree with you i just i I'm so [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► cynical about the way that Hollywood [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► does three makes things shamelessly the [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► broadcasting is maybe darken with ok [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► I've turned my back on hope and love [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► each James Bond movie [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► aside from the kind of daniel craig [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► stuff was kind of the same and that was [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► sort of comforting and no I when I went [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► and saw them with my dad when I was a [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► kid and you know it was my kid gets [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► older i'm going to take him to see James [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► Bond stuff and you it's you know he's [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► always gonna end up in the the the life [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► preserver with the girl at the end of [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► the movie [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► yes with you'd be unlikely button that [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► he presses that summons the yacht right [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► and that I don't necessarily think they [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► do need to remake something for every [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► generation there's like subtle shifts at [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► to make it more kind of contextually [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► relevant i guess but the the heart like [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► all of my fears about remix went away [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► with Star Trek and I never thought like [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► anybody but William Shatner would be [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► Kirk and and you know i have no problem [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► leaving Chris Pine is Kirk yeah Chris [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► David overwhelming casting they did a [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► good job Natalie yeah and and that that [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► works a lot and i agree with you I think [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► it's funny the fear of it and yeah I [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► noticed also that phantom fear just like [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► no sacrilege sacrilege but good actors [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► and good scripts and fun and and with [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► Star Trek we mentioned this i think on a [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► previous episode 1.1 the problems with [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► Star Trek is there was such a length of [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► time before between when they finish the [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► show and when they start doing the [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► movies that all those movies ended up [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► being about the original crew getting [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► older and dealing with mortality when in [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► fact the thing that people loved about [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► the original series was that they were [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► young and having adventures and they [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► never got to do that in the movies and [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► so by rebooting star trek and casting [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► young actors are like hey we get to do [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► that now we get to have movies that are [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► not about Kirk breaking his glasses [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► because he's very old man can't see very [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► well and that's good that's that's [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► that's uh that's nice but it did require [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► going over that line and as a as an [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► original Star Trek fan from when I was [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► you know before I can even remember that [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► was a that was a big thing like okay [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► how's this gonna go is this is this [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► gonna be okay and and now we're in a [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► different world where I feel like of [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► course these are iconic characters I [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► would you know I went to track in the [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► park in portland this summer which is [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► they do a star trek episode in the park [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► on a stage in front of several thousand [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► people every sunday during the summer [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► they did it for five years and and I was [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► primed for having already seen you know [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► the James Abrahams reroute but it was at [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► that moment of like these are great [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► characters and it's in the scripts are [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► funny and it doesn't matter that these [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► are sort of random actors playing these [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► parts because i know these parts i know [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► that Scotty is going to get into a fight [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► on the Klingon space station because [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► they insult the enterprise and it wasn't [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► James doing and it wasn't simon pegg and [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► it didn't matter because you know [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► because it was Scotty and I know who [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► Scott he is and and it's funny to come [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► that way from from it only being one [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► actor for the first 40 years of that [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► characters existence and I mean even [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► Shakespeare his plays were mostly [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► remakes and things cobbled together from [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► other stories that people probably [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► already knew at the time so they were [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► familiar with with who handle it was you [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► know he added his own spin on it but you [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► know the the ideas were already there so [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► what you're saying is that you're a [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► better play right then he [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► was because your radio dramas are [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► original oh yeah say at least have the [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► courage to say that's all I'm saying [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► good we all feel better now [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► hey at least I change the name yeah [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► change the 60s right have to do change [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► the names nobody's given gonna know one [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► thing that I think makes it a little [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► easier to swallow is when or I guess [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► it's more than on the flip side it makes [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► it harder to swallow when I feel like [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► they are either rebooting or recasting [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► somebody just to sort of make a quick [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► buck and appeal to the the crowd [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► whereas when it's something that I feel [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► like the creator's really truly loved [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► that what came before and are trying to [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► to remake it for a new audience to to [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► share that love as opposed to raking in [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► the Bucks that helps which is why I [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► think doctor who has been so successful [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► because both Russell Russell T Davies [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► and Steven Moffat huge huge fans of the [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► show I mean they're probably some of the [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► biggest fan boys in the entire world and [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► i think that they put their heart and [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► soul into the show and that that shows [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► whereas i don't know maybe I'm [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► completely wrong about the robocop thing [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► but from everything that like that i [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► keep seeing and hearing I feel like it's [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► more of a cash grab [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► oh yeah yeah Hollywood cash grab know [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► you can but you don't think so so much [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► for green-lighting movies marketing now [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► it's like how do you sell this movie if [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► you can say well it existed before you [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► act like you know Star Trek yes there [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► you go [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► so does everybody else 80 million [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► dollars please [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► that this man a check i love this man [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► franchises are their own you know are [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► problematic in their in their own way I [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► when I was thinking about this and I'm [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► thinking this is fundamentally a topic [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► about things that are not singular works [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► of art but our artful though they may be [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► they are now product lines and what [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► you're doing is you're changing almost [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► like changing the spokesman for your for [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► your product line what will we do [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► without the Aflac duck will get a new [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► athletic that's what we're going to do [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► and nobody will notice the difference [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► but but this is this is what this is and [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► so there there's a corporate [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► calculations happening to when you [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► change an actor [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► that I don't know it's um yeah yeah it's [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► just it's just but it's it's good that [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► we're not abandoning account a really [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► good character just because you know the [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► actor has aged out of the system so to [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► speak [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► i meanwhat wouldn't be horrible if we'd [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► how many different interpretations have [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► there been of sherlock holmes at this [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► point and how many can you say have been [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► truly great you can probably come up [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► with at least four truly greater all i [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► want to create Sherlock Holmes's yeah [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► yeah and so weak i would hate to say [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► it's it's hard it's hard to think of [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► anybody but Frances McDormand playing [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► the part of chief margin Fargo but i [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► have to admit that one of the things I [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► really really want to see is this is too [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► great a character to never ever have any [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► new stories about her so I'm really [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► curious to see what this new series is [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► going to be bucks i want to see more [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► chief Marge [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► ok so how come it if a lot of this [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► recasting is about actors aging out of [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► Parts wife whenever we are I can't think [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► of a single example of where they recast [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► kids to keep sort of the kids in a show [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► at the same age o.o that you don't [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► belong with all the time [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► yeah i mean they they did that on [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► bewitched there were several different [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► Tabitha's before before she actually [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► would they decided to let her be a child [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► I think with child actors it's a lot [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► harder because it's so hard to find a [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► good child actor in the first place and [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► the the field is fairly limited so [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► trying to find somebody else who's going [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► to be able to play the part who's going [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► to be able to play period i think it's [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► probably just not worth the while of the [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► creators of the shows and films you do [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► end up with a problem with it with the [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► kids are getting older and if the if the [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► premises that every year is a year [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► that's not a problem if the premises [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► like I was noticing that with Carl on [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► the walking dead that uh you know they [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► mean he's getting he's growing up and I [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► guess you can say well Carl's growing up [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► in this hard environment where there's [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► always everywhere he's growing up but [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► it's also he's growing you know he's [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► getting older faster than time is [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► passing on the show because they don't [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► it's not a one to one thing or the best [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► example there is is walked on Long swear [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► it's like just gonna forget it [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► whoa we got to take waltz [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► way because that kid that kid grew like [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► two feet in a year and will also look at [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► look at look at Happy Days like with the [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► first year you already had actors who [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► were probably about their their 22 23 [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► years old playing 16 17 hours old [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► by the end it's like I Pazzi we got it [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► we're about to graduate from college [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► yeah I can't make it good time I gotta [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► pick up my kids from the orthodontist [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► well that's the that's the 90210 problem [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► right with which is then you can cast [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► you can cast a twenty-five-year-old as [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► 2418 and maybe get away with it there [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► are youthful 25 but the problem is then [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► the show last seven or eight years this [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► was you know Buffy is my favorite show [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► but the fact is those guys were more [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► plausibly 16 then they were plausibly 22 [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► well that's it that's best skilled [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► writing what you do is you establish [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► that they've got they were became very [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► very heavy smokers around the 3rd season [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► various unhealthy lives and age doesn't [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► really give these states at back by [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► Howard leaving recognize myself anymore [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► they're just be a spanish expel that [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► happens and they all seem older than [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► they actually are [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► let's see I know you don't want to talk [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► about Darrin Stephens but go ahead but [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► we already talked about colombo Three's [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► Company and magnum p.i that we haven't [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► talked about the West go ahead the thing [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► that bothered me as a child watching the [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► show because you know it was on every [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► day right and all of a sudden one day [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► there's Dickie work the next day blink [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► sorry sergeant now I'm like what five or [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► six and i'm trying to figure out okay [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► and doors already turned him into a cow [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► horse a duck a donkey [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► why doesn't she just turn him back to [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► the way he looked did Samantha suddenly [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► decide she really liked this tall skinny [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► guy better i don't know i just nobody [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► noticed that it's a disease Aaron sure [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► Larry Tate would have voted since and [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► it's like here's a show where you could [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► actually legitimately have that excuse [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► oh now you got a facelift like that [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► magic [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► no it's just an example of how a lot of [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► people always do the instruments Stevens [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► vs i dream of jeannie who's more [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► powerful it's clearly samantha stephens [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► because she decided she wanted a [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► different husband and she went out and [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► got it and she's powerful enough to make [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► everybody else not notice grabbed a [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► drifter [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► with the pic erase his existence those [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► those actors were very different [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► I mean that's something to get me that I [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► mean I don't agree with her personal [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► taste in men I at all but to each her [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► own on the other hand you you do like [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► the fact that at some point the [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► producers say look it's just a TV show [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► we can do stuff we have to do stuff like [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► when like when Harry Morgan was cast as [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► Colonel Potter on mash that if it's [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► worth if this relaxed at interbay [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► internet-based casting they say no week [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► he can I know he's great for the party [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► be perfectly totally revitalized the [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► series but he's already been established [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► as the guy who plays major general [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► Bradford Hamilton steel in the episode [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► the general flips at dawn we meet you [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► people blow people's minds if he shows [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► up again [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► no no what will happen is that maybe [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► four people remember him from three [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► seasons ago and will probably be cool [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► with it because the fans of the show if [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► they were picky about that in Doctor Who [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► they would have like fifty percent less [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► cast and all of the classic series [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► technology philip matic would have been [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► out of a job right to to doctors and at [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► least a couple companions have been on [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► in different characters before they [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► ended up as the as the meanwhile the [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► doctor who you could always say like [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► well they like that person filed it away [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► for later like a maybe i'll be that [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► person later I'll regenerate into that [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► guy who was that who was that actor on [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► on Babylon 5 that game apple juice again [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► see this J michael Straczynski just like [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► him so much that he just kept casting [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► overcasting mean the guy who's the [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► Inquisitor and then he brought back his [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► lorien when Alexander and like a man [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► wasn't he was an artist into yeah you [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► keep putting back under makeup makeup [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► the river just like working with them so [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► much [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► yeah yeah it's like Jeffrey Combs on on [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► like deep space nine and enterprising I [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► think he was a pussy on Voyager at some [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► point you might yeah he was [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► yeah the the one TV show growing up that [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► really bothered me when they change the [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► cast was Dukes of Hazzard oh god yes [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► identical cousins they look just like [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► them suddenly the blonde is wearing the [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► blue shirt and the brunette is wearing [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► the yellow shirt that was it and it was [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► we gave our cousins are car that we love [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► and our lives our parents right us so we [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► can go off and racing now [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► car will be back after our contract is [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► settled [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► hey it really seems they couldn't tell [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► if they wanted to recast the roles or [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► bring in different characters so they [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► try to do both but they weren't that [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► different right let's race anything [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► similar as we can [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► yeah well you know soap operas always do [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► it where they just say the part of [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► so-and-so is now being played very much [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► like in the theatre with an understudy [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► they just replace the part and just say [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► have or or they get blown up and they [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► have bandages on their face for a week [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► and then the undo the damage is like out [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► it's a new actor you look different to [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► send a message to the rest of the cast [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► during contract negotiations we have [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► arbitrarily fired the actor playing [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► Clint dark club or sometimes it really [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► is an understudy because of a cast [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► member gets sick and when you're [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► shooting every day so you get some I [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► remember when I would watch soap operas [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► when i was home sick as a kid and I [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► would just be so confused because I [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► tuned in after the so-and-so is being [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► played by so-and-so and I would be [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► really confused and then the next week [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► it would be back to the same person and [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► I would be even more confused i was very [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► upset when when Robin Brady became John [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► black on days of our osmeña Taylor [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► really not the same guy probably not the [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► same guy and then it turned out of [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► course there was a plot twist later and [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► it wasn't the same guy [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► oh you did we drink to of course it was [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► a different actor you should not along [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► beau soap operas they're the worst [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► what's like we were watching Iron Chef [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► all afternoon because the kids suddenly [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► went hate this is really cool and [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► there's one episode that we saw where [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► the Chairman is so heartsick over the [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► losing streak of the Iron Chefs that [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► he's boycotting this battle and ICU [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► category is the acting chairman and and [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► i happen to know for reading the Iron [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► Chef book [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► shut up i had in my bookshelf i have [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► that ok bookshelf if you been all my [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► life [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► anyway but he he was the actor himself [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► was on tour in the japanese version of [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► lame is that lame as he's on the world [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► the world soundtrack where it's [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► different people and lame is from all [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► over the world he's one of the one of [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► the people on that he's representing [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► Japan is the chairman Sir Michael [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► learned so much tonight you guys [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► actually it makes me mad that Iron Chef [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► USA has the guy who supposedly like the [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► nephew of of the Chairman he is not the [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► Chairman is a kick but he's also [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► unaccepting he [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► also no fat on the new hawaii five-o now [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► the chairman on Iron Chef America it's a [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► whole evil conspiracy is brilliant [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► wow did that means that you know that [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► now the chairman has a carry permit [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► how does that influence your thinking [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► about what's going on inside the inside [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► kitchen stadium now this this has gone [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► in directions that I never expected and [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► yet you know i should expect that from [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► this podcast by now just not where we go [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► which I i used to me is when when when [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► Ninja Warrior start airing on the g4 [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► network [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► I always decided that I'm gonna start [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► believe that this is how they choose [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► they train and choose the palace guards [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► for kitchen Stadium [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► yeah I like that yeah I like this a [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► unified collection of continuity time [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► for another sponsor break and this is a [TS]

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