The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► pop-pop-pop-pop don't you doing Khun [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► uncomfortable number 186 Morris 2014 [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► welcome back everybody to be [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► uncomfortable i'm your host Jason still [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► and it's time for the third edition of [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► our old movie club where we watch old [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► movies under the direction of the [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► curator of the old movie club mr. Philip [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► Michaels I Phil hello welcome back thank [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► you thank you for having me it's always [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► a pleasure to be here but isn't a [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► pleasure for you [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► well we got I got to see two movies I've [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► never seen before these are movies from [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► the early seventies let's introduce the [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► other two gentlemen who also watch these [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► movies David lawyers out there hi David [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► hello there to watch both movies I've [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► watched both many times many times okay [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► so you're you're you're an expert ish on [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► this steve lets is also out there Steve [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► or these uh these new movies to you I [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► yeah I was a new both of the right films [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► although I lived through the seventies [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► so I feel like I kind of live both of [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► these films already that was alive [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► during the making of both of these moves [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► barely but I was uh and i'm with you [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► Steve I I'd never seen them before [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► so the two movies are get carter and the [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► taking of pelham 123 and they have [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► something in common but for all of that [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► i thought i would hand it back to Phil [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► to explain a little bit about about [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► these movies and and why he selected [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► them for us to explain why you made us [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► watch these films yes that's why why [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► oh well uh I i wanted to get a little [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► contemporary we've been we've been back [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► in the the fifties a little bit on on [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► the previous episode something so 40 [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► years ago a little more different yeah a [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► little bit more contemporary within [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► within living memory for some of us [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► huh-uh [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► and their two movies i think are they [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► might be mainstays of your your cable [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► rotation back in the day but I think [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► they've kind of been overlooked by by [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► modern day movie fans and I i think [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► that's a shame because I enjoy both with [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► the realization that get carter is [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► something of an acquired taste for [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► people not to not to jump to the front [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► of the line here but they do have a lot [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► of things in common both are very much [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► of a time and a place taking of pelham [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► 123 is set in the New York of the [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► nineteen seventies as it is crumbling [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► into dasya and mechanics and the movie [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► just sort of embrace it like slim [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► pickins at the end of dr. street it is [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► it jumps on the missile that his weight [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► it's cowboy hat and going to see high [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► off the ground and get carter seems to [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► have been set in the north of England [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► well after it has already crumbled into [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► test [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► yeah it yes it is not it takes place in [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► Newcastle and I i think both cities are [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► actually characters in the movie and in [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► a way in their respective movies and [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► both have very strong performances from [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► two actors who you don't really think of [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► his leading men at least audiences today [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► don't think of it as leading men get [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► carter stars michael caine and Walter [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► Matthau is the star of taking of pelham [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► 123 and a guy i think the the for the [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► young people out there Michael Caine is [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► the is the butler in every young [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► everybody that Christopher Nolan makes [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► he just shows up and and sort of adds an [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► air of class two things and then he [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► makes and and you might see him another [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► many terrible movies because he's a [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► working British actor and get jaws the [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► revenge if ya got [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► yes there's not afraid of getting a [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► paycheck but he is a two-time [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► oscar-winner and yet he has made some [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► terrible movies and yet if you go back [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► to earlier early in his career which get [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► carter is when he was at establishing [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► himself as a stark it its he really was [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► a very good [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► actor and I think that gets overlooked [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► and the two years after he was in the [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► italian job right great one right and [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► not that long [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► not that long after Alfie with rice the [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► movie really is kind of the preeminent [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► English Butler go to in to post john [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► gielgud era [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► yes a clip yeah I'm surprised I wasn't [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► in the Arthur remake now she might have [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► a he might have like a no-compete clause [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► with christopher nolan i only bottle for [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► me in movies in my eye I only for me so [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► I sorry we started getting into get [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► carter shall we discuss that one first [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► let's before we get to get Carter we [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► should talk about the other thing these [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► two movies have in common which I i'm [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► sure we'll come back to at the end which [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► is that they were both remade remade [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► very recently i get carter was remade [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► about 10 years ago and taking of pelham [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► 123 was remade in 2009 and when I [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► proposed the this episode to you jason i [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► think i phrased it is why does hollywood [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► ruin the things i love but because they [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► eat if you wipe the original movies from [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► from all memory and you only had the the [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► remakes available as evidence that these [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► films ever existed you would think my [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► god these are too terrible motion [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► pictures that then star people doing [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► terrible things and that make me unhappy [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► and I think that's a disservice to the [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► originals and this is this is this is a [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► case where you should you should skip [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► the remake and go go straight to the [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► source material i see so this is an [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► attempt to rehabilitate some of your [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► favorite movies that have been destroyed [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► in the exactly if you think of get [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► Carter as that terrible movie that [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► Sylvester Stallone made go back to the [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► original narrow it down a little bit [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► yeah well if you think of taking of [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► pelham 123 is just another movie in the [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► series of John Travolta's unfortunate [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► hair decisions [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► no no go back to nineteen seventy-four [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► and and watch Walter Matthau i see i was [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► going to say job with the movie latest [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► in a series of movies involving Denzel [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► Washington and trouble on trains [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► yes well alright so get Carter we should [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► start right let's let's start with that [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► get carter [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► basically it's it's a revenge picture uh [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► there there there used to be a very [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► popular genre of movie where it's [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► someone someone unsavory his unsavory [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► friends have done done him wrong and so [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► he spends the rest of the movie exacting [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► his his horrible revenge a contemporary [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► movie and get carter that did the same [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► thing was a point-blank with Lee Marvin [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► which I actually don't enjoy as much as [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► I I've grown to enjoy get carter and get [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► carter is set in as we said it's it's a [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► new castle though the title character [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► Jack Carter the title character get [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► carter is some is a london-based gang is [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► here [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► it's a rare hand but in England is [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► common yes friend his friends don't call [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► him get its kinda yes they just it was [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► just a Carter yeah and he finds out at [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► the beginning of the movie that his [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► brother has been murdered or whether [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► they're all he had a drunk driving [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► accident and it is drunk driving [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► accident but yeah it it was not was not [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► a clean kill this was a nada the place [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► where it's all on the up-and-up [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► yeah well when was that ever good enough [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► for us so a Carter goes back up to [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► Newcastle in a credit sequence I very [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► much enjoy if if if you don't like the [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► movie at least the soundtrack by ray bud [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► is is quite enjoyable [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► yeah i actually knew of this movie only [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► from cover versions of the theme song [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► several to a couple of my favorite bands [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► actually have played versions of this [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► and they're in their own way you should [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► share those covers because i would like [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► to very much hear them [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► there's the and he's on the train it's [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► like I'm riding the train and their [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► credits & music it's like wait a minute [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► it starts off with porn first of all [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► well yeah we should [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► yes I'm so my first note in this entire [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► project Phil is in the seventies porn [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► was unpleasant and not fun and made out [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► of slides [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► yeah it yeah that is it overthrew the [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► scene where it its wing in london man [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► its 1971 and and what would the swing [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► and mobsters in 1971 London do for kicks [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► they get together wear suits and watch [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► slides of black and white porn the other [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► wear suits and look really unhappy while [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► while a carousel of slides of [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► porn are just you know flashing on the [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► screen and it's like yeah it's [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► unpleasant just unpleasant have to [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► customize porn which is completely [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► delightful then and fun for the entire [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► family and in color my first note is [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► whoa you can actually see ding dong in [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► these shots that seems UNMISS it and [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► also i'm shocked this got an R rating [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► because you can in fact see very clear [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► some things that I've not seen an [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► r-rated film before but i believe and i [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► don't have to double-check this but I [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► believe it did not get an r-rating [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► originally and that that our rating is [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► now like retroactive yes because they [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► went back and said oh now this is this [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► is family fare Jesus did on the kids all [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► audiences admitted only slides [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► yeah it's not motion pictures it's just [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► slides that dingdong is clearly [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► stationary so it falls within the the [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► r-rating recommendations [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► yes so that so the mob that that Jack [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► Carter or Michael Caine is involved in [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► clearly they they they make a good chunk [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► of their business trading human flesh in [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► the porn industry or what passes for the [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► porn industry and in nineteen seventies [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► England side which is slides [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► yes step upper lip chaps let's uh I got [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► some good slides here here here [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► yes yeah quite and then he gets on a [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► train and their credit venues and then [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► theirs is theirs either in this theme [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► song first of all I have to ask it share [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► it sounds like it there is no other [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► sound there's another like some sort of [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► hammered dulcimer or something but it's [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► it's interesting that's for sure [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► it's an autoharp so Carter gets back to [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► Newcastle and take some no time at all [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► to to to figure out that this was in [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► fact probably a murder he just has to [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► figure out who who did it and why and [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► the rest the movies him piecing it [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► together talking to various members of [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► the Newcastle mob who we are we are [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► reminded come throughout the movie that [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► they are they are hard nuts they are not [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► people you want to cross not like those [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► suave London gangsters in their black [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► and white porn slides and so so one of [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► the things i like about this movie is is [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► that it's structured like a detective [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► movie because right he is solving the [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► mystery of who killed his brother and [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► why but what it does what it doesn't [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► have is all of the you know like I'm a [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► detective i'm seeking to find the truth [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► for some reason that's altruistic like [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► to bring them to justice [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► it's much more i am also a criminal and [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► I will find them and I will destroy [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► whoever killed my brother so it's it's I [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► like that twist on the fact that he's [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► still trying to solve a mystery it's [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► just kind of a morally right because he [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► grew up in Newcastle he knows many of [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► the gangsters there there's a there's a [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► slimy head gangster named yes Cyril who [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► it just I actually really enjoyed the [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► performance he's only in like two scenes [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► and john osborne yeah course it is john [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► osborne 380 I don't and I believe he's a [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► playwright actually and this was only [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► one of a couple of couple of movies that [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► he made but he he he just plays Cyril as [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► this as this guy who can't even be [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► bothered to care if there's this scene [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► where Michael Caine goes into confront [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► them and yeah Michael Caine knows that [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► he's involved and john osborne knows [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► that Michael K knows he's involved and [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► john osborne does not sweaty wit because [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► he he is he is in the the catbird seat [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► as it were I am amused by the scene [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► where he goes to the two Cyril's house [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► yeah and like knock some guys out [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► there's like shows a gun and then he [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► ends up wandering into the room where [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► there's a card game and they're like oh [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► Carter okay and he sits down and watches [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► them play cards for a while there's a [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► very weird lady who whispers things and [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► it's a very strange scene because it's [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► very complex there are lots of different [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► cutaways right it's a very big according [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► reading uh [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► i was reading like IMDb or Wikipedia [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► afterward they said it's like a [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► showpiece scene was very complicated [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► shoot and it is it's very complex and [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► it's made even more complex by the fact [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► that the woman who's who's talking to [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► him is whispering right so weird [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► that's a great scene is it there's a [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► real weird tension to it yeah she'sshe's [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► creepy as hell is just threads friends [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► and fans of Robert Altman and Friends of [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► robert altman to Allah will recognize [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► that tender where all the audio is [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► layered on top of each other and the [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► listener has to to pick it up and it is [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► taking me repeated viewings because like [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► you say the lady does whisper but [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► basically what she's telling them is [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► that all yeah I new year your bosses [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► were up here and I knew your brother and [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► aid it's basically there's enough [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► details in there that she completely [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► implicates 0in in the murder basically [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► and it's different because there's [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► there's so much distance therebetween [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► that there's this quiet intensity going [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► on with the poker game right and then [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► just this unbelievable ditzy busyness [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► that she's exuding right and up until [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► that point frankly there hasn't been a [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► whole lot of tension I mean there's been [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► a lot of standing around in suits [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► periodically there's maybe somebody [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► getting hit in the head with a log to [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► break it up yeah this is this really the [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► first time that there's just there's [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► just a real intense tension that builds [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► up there because you almost feel like [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► you're you're you're in here and Carter [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► spot and you're trying to pay attention [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► to to what cereals up to and meanwhile [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► this girl is kind of coming in here and [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► in trying to you know pull your focus [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► away and just feel like telling her to [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► shut the hell up i'm trying to listen to [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► the movie [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► listen lady I know you know Sid you [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► already told me four times cut it out [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► before this it's just slide porn and [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► then train rides and shaving over the [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► decaying corpse of your dead brother [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► yes is because I wall Carter is [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► conducting his his investigation of the [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► London mob decides they've had enough of [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► him running around up there causing [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► trouble so they they send a couple of [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► flunkies to bring it back and so [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► he's he's trying to elude the flunkies [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► who who are the flunky 'used there's a [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► delightful scene where they Carter [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► basically seduces his landlady yes well [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► she was interested so well sure it [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► didn't take much effort because you just [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► think yeah because because michael caine [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► and in 1971 was not a not a bad-looking [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► dude not the not the the weird creepy [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► Butler that time with you don't know if [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► it's a hit but yeah they show up and [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► he's he's naked and holding the rifle [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► and it one of the funniest lines in the [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► movie and I'm gonna get it wrong but the [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► the one of the flunky says come on Jack [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► we know that's not loaded in the the the [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► other flunky says he means the gun [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► it's like Carter falls off the bed and [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► then is able to just sort of like reach [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► around and get his gun and yourself if [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► you're going to stash your rifle under [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► the bed move the chamber pot out of the [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► way hit fats and a fun fact about that [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► rifle he carries around throughout the [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► movie but that never actually fires it [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► well it's his brothers I mean is that [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► that's one of the great poetic things is [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► that he's he stored his brothers a rise [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► pick up his brothers rifle at his [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► brother's house specifically so he can [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► use it at the appropriate moment right [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► and he also totes around that bottle of [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► whiskey the whole time so we can make [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► use of that [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► mhm and it actually it looks like his [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► his briefcase actually has a perfectly [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► sized slot for that bottle of whiskey so [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► I don't know if you had made but I want [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► yes yes so that the gun is a really nice [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► touch from the book and it's got lost in [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► every version of the movie that it's a [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► double-barreled shotgun and it's [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► supposed to represent his relationship [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► with his brother because it's two [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► barrels and because they always went [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► hunting his children that's this whole [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► mythology about the gun in the movies he [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► just carries the gun [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► yeah we should mention the book is jack [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► goes home I think of Jack comes home [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► tell you guys in your movies made of [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► paper [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► yeah books are just movies with words [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► man [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► we we skipped the fact that before he [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► has sex with a landlady catch e has a [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► phone call with his boss back in London [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► his girlfriend [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► yes who is also michael caine's [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► girlfriend and they there is a lengthy [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► 1971 phone sex scene which really is [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► enlivened by those big heavy receivers [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► and my curling phone cord and what [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► happens is that funny is that the hotel [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► lady is listening to this and she's in a [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► rocking chair and she precedes to rock [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► her chair very strongly as she listened [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► lost the hell out of the conversation [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► between Michael came and and who is it [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► it's britt eklen britt ekland yeah that [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► scene made me feel funny and all the [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► rounds quite disturbing [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► I i guess this is the the thing that I [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► liked about the movie that made me go [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► back to it because that I I didn't care [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► for it the first time I saw it I said [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► that's kinda it's a very bleak movie in [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► a in a way almost unrelentingly bleak [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► but there's this strain of really a lot [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► of really funny bits that runs through [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► it a lot of lot of gallows humor to to [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► skip ahead [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► still got your sense of humor yeah to [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► skip ahead a bit [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► one of the people that Carter kills [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► towards the end of the movie is in a [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► meeting with these these people and me [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► they go off and Carter throws him off a [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► parking garage [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► yeah and the the guys are waiting about [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► it's very rude for him to leave us like [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► this and then they notice all the police [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► cars and ambulances pulling up and and [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► then one says and apparently this was a [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► nap lip line and I don't think we're [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► getting our feet on this job yeah it [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► just just a lot of really omit this leak [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► unrelenting a cycle of violence just [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► some really funny [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► you have to laugh don't you know you got [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► all i do is a Brumby that he floats ya I [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► was rounding off the office after the [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► robbery who [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► there's a really terrible dummy goes [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► flying off well yeah that's yeah that's [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► the limitations of moviemaking in 1971 [TS]

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00:20:53 ◼   ► five-by-five and the uncomfortable [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► there's that we didn't mention so Carter [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► Carter meets another interesting lady [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► yeah it's that is it is really it's a [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► drunk lady again same lady and we only [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► had we only had enough money to cast 11 [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► floozy on this movie and so there's a [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► scene that I would say is the it's it's [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► when you're thinking should i buy the [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► manual transmission to the automatic as [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► the scene that says go with the manual [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► transmission there is a hilarious scene [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► that cuts but [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► be shifting of the car and the sex [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► seemed it is a scene of blended driving [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► Carter interspersed with scenes of car [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► driving Glenda so this little synergy [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► there yes cut back and forth as the [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► gearshift keeps going up and up and up [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► and the engine keeps revving I laughed [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► and laughed I i assume it was meant to [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► be humorous jacket washes it was because [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► that's what it was was Hugh very [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► humorous juxtaposition although [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► distressingly earlier when he's having [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► sex with the landlady it cuts to a bunch [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► of children walking through the street [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► having a kazoo parade which a children's [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► marching band I think Christians has got [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► to be the most depressing some real [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► kinky is going on there and i don't i [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► don't much not want to know what it is [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► I i believe the implication is that it's [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► rhythmic and a tonal yeah not not a fine [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► sports car seemed like a good idea but [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► in practice math it's a we should [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► mention that that scene with glenda and [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► the sports car and the AHA leads to [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► really the pivotal moment of the of the [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► motion picture and and really even [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► though we're we're living in the crafter [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► age then we were in 1971 kind of [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► shocking moment the first time I saw it [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► and it is still a little bit unsettling [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► Carter you know turns on the since porn [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► is everywhere they turn on this this [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► 8-millimeter movie and well she's just [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► she goes to the bathtub after the right [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► sex and he he goes hey there's a movie [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► projector here i'll flip it on and see [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► what's there and it the it's a it's a [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► porno that the Newcastle mob has been [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► shot and it stars his niece his [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► brother's daughter [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► oh you know are quite possibly his own [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► daughter [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► yeah or quite possibly his own daughter [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► that almost certainly based on his [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► reaction yeah and that this is the scene [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► where really my Michael Caine flashes [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► the the acting chops because he goes [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► from one comprehending horror to [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► unspeakable sadness to murderous rage in [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► about 15 seconds [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► and it's it's it's a really well acted [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► scene is very well directed to i would [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► say because it's yes as his realization [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► is dawning on him the sound of the [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► projector going kind of ratchets up and [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► up and then they made a point of having [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► him being in front of a mirror so you [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► can catch his reaction as well as kind [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► of a blurred version what's going on in [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► the film at the same time it's really [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► well done really uh yeah it's a powerful [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► scene [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► I think and this sort of sets in motion [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► the the third act of the movie which is [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► basically Carter killing everybody [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► yeah its weakest point to jack has gone [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► full Rorschach before he was just [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► breaking fingers and now he's and he he [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► tries to drown before thinking better of [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► it he tries to drown [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► Glenda stuffs her in the trunk of the [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► color field to mention that it lays the [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► ground and support the porn that is [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► being generated by the northern mobsters [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► is a motion picture [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► yeah making it more advanced than the [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► pornography being viewed by the London [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► gangsters well Newcastle was always [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► ahead of london in the porn game in the [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► film production [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► yeah so uh but this is the almost [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► strangling her in an order and or [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► drowning her in the bathtub is not the [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► worst thing that he does to glenda [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► because then he decides to have her ride [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► in the trunk of his car or her car i [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► guess that he steals and he parks at [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► mira body of water and thugs come to get [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► him and decided that they will show him [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► what's what [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► by pushing his car in the river and as [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► he watches it go down he's like yeah [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► alright i don't know though it's he [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► looks very empathic there but I swear I [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► get a glimmer of some emotion under the [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► service i'm not i'm not clear what it is [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► exactly it might be anger it might be [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► you know he's angry he's not going to [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► get his deposit back on the car with the [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► deal its but it looks like there's still [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► a glimmer of humanity in there and she [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► blogs below the surface to be the killer [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► himself [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► I don't know it those were the London [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► flunkies teaming up with cereals flunky [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► who is played by an actor named Ian [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► Henry who apparently thought he was in [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► line for the the the title role of Jack [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► Carter even though Michael can produce [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► the movie so you ain't getting that [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► parka [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► I almost forgot what your eyes look like [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► if you see with this whole [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► send us now just to love your sense of [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► humor so then let's say okay so Glenda's [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► in the river [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► Glenda's dad one of the few people that [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► affect Carter doesn't personally [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► dispatch try tengo otros Brumby over the [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► side of the party throws Brumby over the [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► side of the the garage and the reason he [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► does that is bomb from bri was the one [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► who brought the movie to the attention [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► of Jack's brother hoping that that would [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► somehow caused some sort of caused the [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► the problems that the Newcastle mob were [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► giving him to go away I i I've never [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► really understood the thinking there and [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► instead it ends up getting Jack's [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► brother killed and so Jack quite [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► naturally sites that Cliff needs to go [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► take a leap for that he goes and stabs [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► the the fellow who appears in the porn [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► movie right his old uh his old friend [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► bloody yeah old schoolmate it in there [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► another really powerfully active scene i [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► think by michael caine where again just [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► barely contained fury as he's as he's [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► stabbing him with fines about an [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► off-track betting establishment and take [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► some sort of out back to have a [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► conversation as it takes him to the [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► toilet and he well yeah and he was out [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► back there's there's actually a pretty [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► humorous bit at least I found it funny [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► where he's repeatedly asking him do you [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► want to go to the toilet [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► I want to go to the toilet and then they [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► panned to a sign on the door that says [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► straight through to toilet having any he [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► confesses he confesses to his [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► involvement in the in the scheme but in [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► many says that but Jack I didn't kill [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► them and and and Carter screams I know [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► you didn't do it and start lunging in [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► the 90s every syllable and it's a little [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► brutal it's it's a very brutal scene but [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► again it's it's it's well-acted it's [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► well constructed it's well shot I i [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► would argue all right it's not it's not [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► just mindless violence for mindless [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► violence and sake like a certain remake [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► would be many many decades later you [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► understand why at this point Carter is [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► feeling what he is right he's out to [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► destroy everybody who who killed his [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► brother or was involved in any way it's [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► also the one scene where the blood [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► doesn't look like Thousand Island [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► dressing appreciate you again 1971 film [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► technology now what it was [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► would be later on alright that leads us [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► to our sort of the final uh pardon moi [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► which is at this point Carter has a grab [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► the no-good two-timing I guess [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► girlfriend of his brother or with they [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► married it's it's uncertain first head [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► to the post office and drop off a copy [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► of the 8-millimeter film within a [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► package simply addressed to the vice [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► squad in New Scotland Yard in London the [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► temptation when you're opposed to worker [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► and you get a package that says the [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► fight so hard to open it has got to just [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► be utterly incredible it feels like home [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► in here and I what's this this is the [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► carousel of slides was going to be I [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► would think that you only do that once [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► and then you realize that you're looking [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► at things you can't unsee now and then [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► that package stay sealed forever [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► yeah so he sends it off to my squad he [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► grabs the the no-good two-timing lady he [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► serves her up a hot dose of of drugs and [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► throws her in a pond on cereals property [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► and basically when the vice squad shows [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► up they find her body and I know cereals [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► cereals going away yet let's also let's [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► let's mention that he finds a local drug [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► dealer get something injectable takes [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► the lady out to out to individual into [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► the forest has your strip off all her [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► clothes except her underpants and then [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► gives her a lethal injection and I sort [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► of got the impression that he was [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► actually on cereals property because [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► where they find the body looks and off [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► right like 60 has a big country estate [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► outside of the the crumbling shell that [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► is new cast so he takes her and then [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► tosses are in the creek [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► you have no clue that he's actually just [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► on cereals properly at that point right [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► that doesn't this is his game is he's [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► trying to frame him for her murder [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► because he can't because he can't [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► connect him to his brother's murder in a [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► way that's going to get any sort of [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► Justice so [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► why not why not get them pinched for [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► everything else right [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► which leads us to the final [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► confrontation between him and he and [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► hendri which happens basically on the [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► the desolate shoreline of newcastle at a [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► the some sort of what I mean what what [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► would you call that is it Corey or and [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► awards like a son Cole Corey of some [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► sort of its cold or dumping into the [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► ocean but then again given the state of [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► the rest of the country [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► it could certainly be a they basically a [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► chase each other for quite a long way [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► until even Henry becomes winded and then [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► Carter takes that bottle of booze he's [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► been carrying around with them uh we [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► should mention that the way that the [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► brother has been dispatched is that they [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► they poured up a bottle of scotch down [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► his throat and then stuck behind the [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► wheel of a car and that's how he he he [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► got in the accident that he did [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► it's the old cary grant from North by [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► Northwest ploy only without comical [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► consequences and so he says well you're [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► gonna you're gonna die like my brother [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► did and the poor is the the liquor down [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► the throat and then beat him to death [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► with the with the rifle you have since [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► it takes the shotgun and does what you [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► expected to do with it which is hit him [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► with it repeatedly again repeatedly [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► caving in the skull he throws him into [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► the by Eric yeah [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► throws him into the the the dredging [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► material that's dumping dumping the lots [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► of soil out into the ocean seems [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► environmentally unsound but you know who [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► am I to tell that breaks out it take [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► care of their code yea the dead bodies [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► far worse than the older dumping him so [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► he gets dumped in there and for one of [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► the few times in the movie [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► Michael Caine has a smile has a little [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► laugh has a little moment of relief and [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► oh there's a sniper that the London Bob [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► higher to knock him out or actually [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► Cyril Cyril kind of hires and he's about [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► to toss the the rifle into the into the [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► water and into this chapter of his [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► revenge when he is shot through the head [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► by a sniper in the sand [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► get a few seconds early yeah hey down [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► and I really like that they quick cut [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► their from him getting ready to throw [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► the rifle to just the ring with the j on [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► it which you see very briefly as the [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► snipers getting getting ready to shoot [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► within the end death gets Carter yeah [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► haha hey all they gave away the ending [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► in the title they didn't like I hate [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► women the lack of a gift card or two got [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► Carter that this problem isn't going to [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► end well for him [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► well it's funny that you should mention [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► that Steve O God because in the remake [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► starring sylvester stallone Carter lives [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► at the end of the movie sure to set up [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► the inevitable sequels [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► I said get carter and no really I wasn't [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► fooling around [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► get me harder and we got harder harder [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► we got Carter now what get Carter again [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► get carter another time get carter [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► harder is that is the obvious it's like [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► he's the whole thing in the remake is [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► the mob in Las Vegas so the last thing [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► he opens up this map and but it's a map [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► of las vegas haha [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► there's that's how it ends it's like [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► really another terrible thing well [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► there's many terrible things about the [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► Get Carter remake although before before [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► we get into that does should we discuss [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► how we how we whether we liked this [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► movie or not or do you want me to talk [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► about get carter the Sylvester to let [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► you know let's let's discuss whether we [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► liked this movie or not okay not yellow [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► no haha I i vill it vill admitted before [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► we started that he and I think you [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► mentioned earlier that the he didn't [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► really like him his first viewing and i [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► think i can go with that I I i can see [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► how movie like this would definitely be [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► inspirational for somebody like quentin [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► tarantino oh yeah but I find that it [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► contains all of the things i understand [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► i can see the influences in Tarantino's [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► work but a lot of what I saw is the [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► stuff i don't like about Tarantino's [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► work it is so unpleasant [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► yeah and a while I really appreciate the [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► work of Michael Caine in this movie and [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► there are a few scenes that [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► like he is he really gonna throw that [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► calf oh he did ok it was its [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► unrelentingly bleak the people in it are [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► kind of awful and and honestly I found [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► the I found all these strange bouts of [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► sex that happened [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► interspersed throughout the movie right [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► kind of i want a pointless but kind of [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► shameless and like they're doing it to [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► shock and they're doing it because they [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► can get away with it and that it wasn't [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► really necessary and the one that pushed [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► me over the edge in that regard was the [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► with the singer and the lady in the bar [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► are fighting and you get a few seconds [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► of just utterly gratuitous granny panty [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► shot yeah you get a buffalo got there [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► too [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► yeah yeah I i thought the phone sex shot [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► Arsene was bizarre and recently and [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► creamy and unnecessary for anything in [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► the movie although there's that [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► wonderful line where where where the [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► gangster barges in at the end [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► what do you got tell me trouble here at [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► the gummy worms or yeah but I should [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► have known from the very first scene [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► with the unpleasant nobody having fun [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► while watching slides of porno that it [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► was gonna be at one of those kind of [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► movies but I get that it doesn't throw [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► you a curveball but nobody says free to [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► get go [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► this is not going to be a fun ride for [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► you know I guess what I would say is it [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► in hindsight it's a you know we're gonna [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► make this movie as hard as we can it's [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► gonna be tough it's gonna be brutal the [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► criminals are gonna be brutal [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► you're not going to be like Rosie [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► friendly criminals that your root for [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► their criminals they're awful people and [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► it's all it's an awful guy who's mad [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► other awful people for killing his [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► brother who was an awful person and so [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► he decides to kill them all and in the [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► end he kills them all and then get shot [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► through the head the end [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► yeah you know the last molesta note that [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► i had was boy what was the point of all [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► that and then and I followed up with i [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► guess that is the point [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► yeah Steve did you enjoy the movie you [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► know what on my first viewing I I wasn't [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► sure on my second viewing it kind of [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► grew on me a bit [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► yeah that was me I well I had to watch [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► it a second time first of all [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► because it's it's fairly complicated and [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► blue accents kind of put it over the top [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► for me those Geordie accidents man I [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► could tell those are in in in [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► I cannot decipher i eventually had to [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► turn on the subtitles and that kind of [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► ruins everything because you find [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► yourself reading it before it's said and [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► then you catch a bunch of the subtleties [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► in the performances so right i went back [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► and watched it again just so I could you [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► know figure out from the beginning and [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► understand everything that was going on [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► properly and when I did that I I [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► appreciate it more [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► you know I didn't love it but I that [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► there's I think maybe the thing that [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► disturbs Jason is the same thing that I [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► kind of appreciate about here there's [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► there's a certain kind of skin crawl [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► inducing sleaze that only 70 movies have [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► ever met [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► yeah yes as a horror fan I'm acutely [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► aware of this because a lot of the best [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► you know most disturbing horror movies [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► are are disturbing specifically because [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► they have that kind of just I want to [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► shower afterwards feel to him and and [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► that sensation is just dripping off [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► every single frame of this film so I [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► kind of appreciate it for that i liked [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► the tiny little in jokes like the fact [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► that he's reading farewell my lovely on [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► the train and a little bit later after [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► he and Glenda have had sex you can see [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► the rolling stones let it bleed sitting [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► on the counter it and i also I generally [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► think it's kind of interesting when a [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► film gives us a protagonist that's just [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► an unrepentant bastard and tries to make [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► him sympathetic like in this case Jack [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► you know he worries for the welfare of [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► his young niece has excuse me as he [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► makes his way through a crowd he [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► apologizes for getting blood on the curb [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► out front of his bed and breakfast for a [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► murderous sociopath Jack seems like a [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► pretty good bloke he asked for his kind [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► of bitters in a thin glass in a thin [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► glass right that's a sign of class right [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► there yeah-yeah the con why's it it [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► takes its sweet time getting interesting [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► oh man is it is it may be partly paste [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► movie yeah I mean it's it it was a lot [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► of guys standing around in suits and [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► then a guy gets hit in the head with a [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► log and then there's more understanding [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► this film is rated l4 log also penises [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► are shown yesterday [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► so to do luggage basically we've got as [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► you will yes I want in the end you know [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► at the end of it I was left feeling a [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► little bit like that was kind of [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► pointless which yeah in its own way is [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► is the point of the element and I [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► appreciate it for that but it probably [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► will grow on me more in the future and [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► specifically because that pacing I was [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► ready for the second time around I'd I [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► enjoyed it a lot more for that [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► yeah you you've actually perfectly [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► encapsulated the journey I've taken with [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► get a Carter the 1971 version the first [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► time I thought I thought oh this is no [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► this is not the pacing is off and the [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► accents are in impenetrable and and the [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► ending is is unsatisfying and but that [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► there was an ugly our DVD that i was [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► watching the picture was unbelievably [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► grainy especially in the dark parts [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► oh yeah in the end it seemed to fit the [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► mood so I was okay with it yeah and [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► where this movie really succeeds besides [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► the performance of Michael Caine is it [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► just really captures a time IE there are [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► very few movies that just commit to what [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► they're trying to get across in the and [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► whatever you want to say about this [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► movie good or bad and and I think [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► Jason's criticisms are completely valid [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► actually it just it throws itself into [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► trying to do what it's trying to do this [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► is a movie that want you to feel gross [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► yeah and depending on the level to which [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► you enjoy feeling gross i think you're [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► your enjoyment of the film attract [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► pretty clearly with that you know this [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► is a mean both of these movies [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► influenced quentin tarantino to a [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► certain extent I and we ask we won't get [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► into that with problem [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► ya know with the title i get Carter you [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► almost expected to be like a like a [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► chase smoke lighthearted Italian to [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► travel beyond car and you know about is [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► chasing him and trying to catch him with [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► us because I get harder [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► give me that car no that's not this [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► movie not like hard to fall know just to [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► put a bow on this you might be wondering [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► why do these idiots keep watching that [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► the same movie over and over and get [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► hated like it and I i can't speak for [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► David but it's when it [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► e it got its hooks in you it's one of [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► those movies that sticks with you even [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► if you don't necessarily like it i think [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► they're there could be a chance that [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► Jason a few years from now seven seas [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► get carter on and system that movie that [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► I didn't much enjoy will accidentally [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► I'll give us i'll give it another look [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► and then he'll be an idiot like us [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► watching the this movie coming out i see [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► now it's all makes sense to me [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► what did it for me was you know because [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► there are a lot of movies like this from [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► the period and most of them are [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► forgotten and some of them you remember [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► the name but you might have seen and [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► some of them you've seen me to go yeah [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► that wasn't very good and this one has [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► michael caine and it is for me it's [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► purely Michael Caine that's the reason I [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► kept coming back to it because he's he's [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► really good piece would say this is [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► pretty uniformly well-acted I mean what [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► is it yeah yeah it's just it's just not [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► not all the other actors in the movie or [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► ar-ar-ar Brits that on the side of the [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► Atlantic we never will [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► we'll never see again my exception of [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► radical into advice yeah well she's done [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► a Brit but she's a Brit Brit haha oh [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► being laughs we we should move on [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► hey speaking of things that aren't very [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► good let's talk about get carter from [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► Sylvester Stallone all well I'll do it [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► very briefly please you don't like to [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► judge a film against the film that it's [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► it's it's being remade against because [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► they're not really they're not making [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► that movie for me but really if you're [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► gonna do a terrible movie why not just [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► call it by a different name [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► when is it anyhow it it understands [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► nothing about the movie it just says hey [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► there's a guy killed when a lot of [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► people that seems like a fun movement [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► that the the role of Cyril they turn [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► into Mickey work and they make them [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► instead of this above it all master [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► criminal he's this this very sleazy [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► pornographer and and by the end of the [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► movie it's it's sylvester stallone and [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► Mickey work fighting each other and it's [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► like two sides of aging beef [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► to each other for 20 minutes and [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► normally enjoy watching [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► yeah no it'sit's yeah i watch The Hunt [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► said I should really get to a morton [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► steakhouse because I did go to [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► tenderizes the meat that I could go for [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► some dry-aged prime rib right about now [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► rockin Ron and I i mentioned earlier how [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► shocking i find the scene where Carter [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► discovers his niece has been horribly [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► her innocence horribly violated on film [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► and I think it's Rachael Leigh Cook is [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► the nice in the remake and in this one [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► Carter discovers a DVD that that that [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► has been made and he pops it in and it [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► sits her doing a sex thing and I i watch [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► them i thought well it's good that she's [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► learned to trade [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► it's just it's a terrible band and [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► Michael Caine appears in it [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► no as bravely I ya as ya and apparently [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► they expanded his role because audiences [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► reacted well to it well why shouldn't [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► they have is the only good thing in the [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► movie remember the elderly British [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► Butler and get carter yeah it's very [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► strange it on Omar kind where's my [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► paycheck [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► yeah exactly I'd like to pause for just [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► a minute for a quick reminder from us at [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► the uncomfortable if you enjoyed [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► listening to us play Dungeons and [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► Dragons in those dnd episodes we did [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► last year you should know about total [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► party kill which is our spin-off podcast [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► where we play D&D the same group check [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► it out at V incomparable dot-com /t p k [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► if you've been listening all along you [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► can start with episode 12 which is the [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► first one that isn't in the main [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► comfortable feed and if you haven't [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► listened to us play Dungeons and Dragons [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► and you want to listen from the very [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► start [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► just listen with episode 1 all of the [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► old episodes are there and we're still [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► playing on a regular basis episodes [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► posted roughly once a week while we've [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► got a D&D game going [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► check it out we play D&D on the internet [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► for your amusement with a bunch of [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► people from the uncomfortable that's [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► total party kill at the incomparable [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► dot-com [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► we should move on to the taking of [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► pelham 123 should i would like to kick [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► off the discussion of the taking of [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► pelham 123 by saying the following Bob [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► Bob Bob Bob I'll come on pop before [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► enjoy don't doing doing doing it is it [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► is impossible to hear that theme song [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► without hearing the taking of pelham 123 [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► Quinn Martin production now it is [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► absolutely a Quinn Martin production the [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► streets of San Francisco know the [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► trailer is great because it's got the [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► music and then all of a sudden the book [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► cover comes flying out of juniors [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► millions of read it now watch the movie [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► but i will say that is a ringtone on my [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► phone i love the music and yeah that's a [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► great too [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► it's the black hole everything was to [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► movies have in common i really like the [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► soundtracks on both taking pelham 123 [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► set in New York it's a it's a heist [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► movie where they they hijack the hijack [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► a subway train and i said to my wife as [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► we were watching this I hope somebody's [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► got to make a crack at some point about [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► well i hope they don't take it to have [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► an aha [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► sure enough it was it happens about 30 [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► minutes later than I thought the joke [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► would come but it does come eventually [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► oh yeah it's there yeah and Walter [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► Matthau and Jerry Stiller yes very [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► stellar as his as his as his second [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► banana [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► yeah basically this movie is the [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► seventies character actor all started a [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► real man it really is is the love boat [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► before the love you you could not make a [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► movie that stirred Mathis Stiller Hector [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► Elizondo yes Martin balsam you can do it [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► today maybe like no they all have to be [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► like 25 or Travolta and fact David and [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► in like 25-30 years they they would make [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► a movie where everyone's 25 in that [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► movie [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► yeah amazing but we should talk about [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► the original first yes yes so the the [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► subways is hijacked by a bunch of men [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► the one of the lessons we learned men [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► with fake mustaches wearing hats are [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► scary and threatening they may be [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► carrying instrument cases or long boxes [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► and they get on a subway [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► and uh and they all have code names that [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► are colors and yeah I I said oh that's [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► where Quentin Tarantino got that for [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► reservoir dogs i get it now and and one [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► guy mr. gray is lascivious makes a [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► lascivious gesture to a lady on the [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► train and wearing a golden bear cub over [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► her shoulder and later makes a racist [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► comment and I thought he's a bit of a [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► hothead that mr. gray and then I'll at a [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► later point I went oh my god hector [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► elizondo yeah after water you nest [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► because Hector Elizondo as you know he's [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► wearing a fake mustache and a and a hat [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► so this is uh this is one of his first [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► role successful successful disguise I [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► had known do you know early on that he's [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► the crazy one because everybody else has [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► a hat with some loft to it and he's [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► wearing the beret [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► yeah yeah it depends clearly can't [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► follow instructions or refuses to we [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► should mention that the that the head of [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► the the hijackers is Robert Shaw yeah [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► he's great [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► oh he's fantastic is very good he's got [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► that cultured English accent which is [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► just a nice touch that I assume i don't [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► have not read the book it is is the is [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► is that character english or did they [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► say well we can get robertshaw he's [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► gonna be English now I don't know but uh [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► but either way he's great and he's just [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► so contained throughout the movie he is [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► just he is going to happen and that adds [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► an air of menace to the character know [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► hehe is he's got it wired right he's got [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► his plan [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► he's going to execute the plan he's [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► going to keep everybody on task you get [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► the sense martin balsam who is also [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► really enjoyable to watch he is the [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► amateur he's deathly afraid of the [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► moment when they might actually have to [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► shoot somebody [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► he just wants his money to get back of [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► the Transit Authority because he got [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► fired [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► héctor Elizondo is a hothead who got [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► kicked out of the mob kicked out of the [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► Mafia because he was too hot-headed for [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► the Mafia and then there's mr. Brown who [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► is a cipher and also Merlin Mann it is [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► but it's really you know mr. Brown is [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► yes yes I do [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► it's it's Wilson it's william from home [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► improvement [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► yes yes at one point he gets shot [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► looking at the back of the Train and I [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► think that was the turning point where [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► he decided he should probably stand [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► behind a solid yeah you know [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► well yeah it's really fleshly where [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► skies throughout the movie and and I [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► thought that was where click format I'm [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► just gonna hide my face from now on it's [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► dangerous out there out the open here [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► Orwell single bit of a solid pine at a [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► couple of two-by-fours and then you're [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► good [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► yeah so four guys hijack a train Walter [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► Matthau tis the transit cop who who has [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► to deal with them Jerry Stiller is a [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► second banana [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► well before we get too far into that one [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► of the things i love about this movie I [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► mean right from the first scene is how [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► many details that are just there that [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► come into play later like the first yeah [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► the first person you see is martin [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► balsam and he's rubbing his nose he's [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► got a cold [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► yeah you know and then you've got the [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► train men explaining why they're doing [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► the different things they're doing [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► because the one guy is training the [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► younger guy and you've got mad it's just [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► a hair can get right now it sounds like [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► let me explain how this works we're [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► gonna need this record mechanism we did [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► we didn't have the comment that concept [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► of droid yet had exposition droid [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► inserted that point i iu you say it's a [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► bit contrived I actually think it's it's [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► really a clever screenwriting because [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► it's a way of letting the audience in [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► early on how things work and they ripped [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► they do it throughout the movie where [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► where there's some outsider that says [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► hey wait a minute why don't you just do [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► this in halter matthew says really only [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► after the fifth or sixth instance of it [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► that I started thinking and it's a [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► little bit of hand-holding that is a [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► little happiness [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► yeah I think they need to do it though [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► because otherwise it becomes a deus ex [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► machina situation where we're we're here [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► all wait a minute why why why the hell [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► doesn't the train just stop and they [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► think i think that the point where [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► Walter Matthau spent like three verbal [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► paragraphs explaining the concept of a [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► Deadman switch yeah well i was a bit [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► sort of lost me a bit you know so well [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► let's say is dead man's switch [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► it's got to be a guy there at all times [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► it that one to bother me as much as the [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► hey it's like well you know three months [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► later you can apply to be a driver but [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► for now let me walk you through [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► everything do all the steps that you'd [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► normally do [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► ok now I'm going to step off the train [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► good luck to you but without getting [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► ahead of ourselves let me tell you if [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► that Bucky about the original your [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► cattle [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► love the remake when the thing [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► especially live is when we first meet [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► math out and he's forced to take these [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► Japanese subway businessmen on a tour [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► and they don't appear to react to him so [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► he starts insulting them as he's taking [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► them around about you mind you know we [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► deal with murders and rapists and [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► michigan and this and that and I [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► actually wanted back the first time i [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► watch to go to heat release a machinist [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► ok cool and you know and then when the [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► crisis hits and he steps out of it he [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► goes alright take them to the 13th floor [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► and they say oh no we can find our way [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► thank you for such an exciting and [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► interesting tour and you realize that [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► they they could speak English the whole [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► time it's great not just because you've [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► had this exposition at what all these [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► things are but now you have the tension [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► of oh he played a hunch and he was wrong [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► so now he's our hero for the rest of the [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► movie what else is gonna sit there [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► sometime maybe maybe I'm just a tad too [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► worldly but there was from from moment [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► one it was obvious what's going to [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► happen yeah yeah but i but I like that [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► he was oblivious to it i'm not sure if [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► that's you being a tattoo worldly I [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► think that's the world catching up with [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► the taking of pelham 123 BS allow you to [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► put it there this movie it's definitely [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► not being worldly let me say that [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► yeah it's the fact that i've seen a lot [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► more moving since that in fact i was I [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► expected something i didn't get from [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► this movie and I think in hindsight what [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► it was is the dressing up of this [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► scenario because now every movie that's [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► anything like this in terms of a [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► contained thriller is going to have to [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► dress it up in a way that this movie [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► doesn't have to because it was early on [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► in this process and in fact we what you [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► see is it has to explain itself several [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► times because people aren't gonna hang [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► with it we're in the in the future [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► you're going to get movies that have to [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► dress it up with other things and [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► specifically I was really expecting we [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► were going to get a seam explaining all [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► of the wacky characters in the train and [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► they were all gonna have to have their [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► moments like they were the cat star trek [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► or something and really know their [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► they're just there on the train we get [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► we get glimpses of them enough to know [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► that there's the drunk lady who's [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► sleeping and this is the lady who only [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► speaks in Spanish and is very upset and [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► a few of the other characters but we [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► don't get to know them what i want what [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► i love about that in this sort of [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► emphasize your point is him the credit [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► their emphasized guess is it there the [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► credit is the may have a little mother [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► the delivery boy the process of sexual [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► second offensive rebound boy the [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► salesman the hooker the old man [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► the older son the Spanish woman the [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► alcoholic the pimp coed number one the [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► younger son code number to the hippie [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► and the wasp yeah hippie and the wasp [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► was my favorite 1970 sitcom about a [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► superhero I i would like to put together [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► a little worksheet with the face of each [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► of those characters along with the name [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► and strong whines I would we don't need [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► you to draw the lines between no way the [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► the Odile the credit and the face I [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► don't take that eventually is just [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► nothing there and that really was one of [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► the things that i have found kind of [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► disappointing which is that it's hard to [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► take this movie seriously when you kind [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► of want all the hostages to die [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► oh I i think it was their little nod to [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► stagecoach where it sits these these [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► stock characters and brought into a [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► certain situation and by god i love the [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► pimp in the movie that's great [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► the pits grip what's the matter baby you [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► ever seen a sunrise that but if there's [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► one thing that's definitely on display [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► here it's seventies attitudes towards [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► women and minority yeah well yes [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► although I was not clear on what the [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► homosexual was which is a point in its [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► favor [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► yeah i just i love the one line that the [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► sudoku neil has is what do they expect [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► their lives a pipe sense to keep to stay [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► alive or something like that [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► the well so you bring it up the video i [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► want O'Neill is my least favorite part [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► of this movie library just a bit much i [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► agree although the other that dollar [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► wits is also a problematic characters [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► okay i want to match at caz that cast [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► one thing that I like about the fact [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► that it's about the heist is that we we [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► are focused on these guys and how [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► they're what they're trying to pull off [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► and we don't spend time getting to know [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► the the fears of all the people on the [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► trains like whatever they're on the [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► train [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► it's about it's about these guys trying [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► to pull this [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► often it's about Walter Matthau trying [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► to figure out what they're doing and I [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► like that and then and then we mentioned [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► this earlier that you talked to feel [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► about the how the the cities that these [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► two movies are set in our characters and [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► this this is we are marinating in in New [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► York City in the seventies sliding into [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► the abyss [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► I feel like this is this is every true [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► true or not we are this is every [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► assumption about like what New Yorkers [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► do at taken to the worst extremes [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► possible this is for to New York drop [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► dead [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► yes it's a very drop deadliest and my [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► favorite my favorite thing is the dick [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► O'Neill character who when he gets the [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► call from the guy who has just hijacked [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► the train he says what you're crazy you [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► big jerk [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► what do you and me it's like he's not [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► obviously seen the negotiator because he [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► doesn't know that you don't want the [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► when a guy says I've got hostages and I [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► stolen your train what you don't do is [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► column a numbskull and insult him a lot [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► and say Jesus Christ why you doing this [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► usually just idiot get out a train like [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► but this is this is the reaction because [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► he's a new yorker he he feels personally [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► offended by by the the hijackers and [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► frankly everybody else they are all [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► ruining i'm gonna get so mad way when i [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► get to that driver he's gonna really [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► regret talking to me it's like what a [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► blowhard [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► well his job is to make the trains run [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► on time and yes getting in the way of [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► them ar-ar-ar [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► although I'm like that casts he doesn't [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► get he just gets shot to death so I'm [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► for every single thing that fat cat says [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► sounds to me like out you Pixies go [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► through the door out the window [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► I love it that cast that chasm has a [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► classic line my wife especially approved [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► which is approved of which is boy [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► jeez we have ladies in here in a [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► position for like two weeks and now [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► we're looking for looking in the toilets [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► were already down the toilet yeah nice a [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► classic but chances one lousy cop god [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► especially if it's a dame [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► yeah my notes my notes evolved oh yeah [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► well yeah that's that's math out saying [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► saying uh you know the other cover cop [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► on the train right doesn't doesn't have [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► much of a chance especially if it's a [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► dame that the bit at the end of them the [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► movie The the undercover cop is kind of [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► this long haired dude and he gets into a [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► shootout and kills Wilson from home [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► improvement got himself gets shot and at [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► this point Walter Matthau is in the [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► tunnel and and trading shots and the [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► hijackers sort of get away and Walter [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► mouth is going to chase him and he turns [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► to this long-haired person lying face [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► down on the ground and says don't worry [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► ma'am help will be here soon and I just [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► think that's a wonderful throw a little [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► throwaway line and there's just a lot of [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► those throughout the movie as you say [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► ma'am they're somehow he says Matt [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► always yeah it's so very because you're [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► letting hours the hippie that's all [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► that's been happy [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► yeah yeah oh by the way my favorite [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► econoline I did write it down its keep [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► dreaming you maniac [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► sure tell that to hijack good idea [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► definitely a contender for my favorite [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► line and and now my ringtone is Walter [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► Matthau saying to the Japanese gentlemen [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► let me show you around the knife center [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► which sounds great coming out of your [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► pocket new york new york a bunch of very [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► rude people are very upset that people [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► are inconveniencing them by stealing a [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► train that that's the thing with the [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► ticket heel character he's just really [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► ticket heel character he's just really [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► we offended that the afternoon commute [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► is going to be disrupted else important [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► people hostages be damned [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► and then there's the mayor the the of [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► the mayor held and his wife is played by [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► outdoors Roberts of Everybody Loves [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► Raymond to him [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► well she has the great line when the [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► mayor is deciding whether to pay the [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► ransom and she says the well I know one [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► thing you'll get 18 shots though there's [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► a very funny moment where he says I [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► don't want to go down there I got a cold [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► i want to go down there I'm gonna get [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► booed you're way behind in the polls you [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► gotta go down there and go down there [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► and then time passes enough time that [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► you forgotten that the mayor's going [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► down there and then and then the mayor [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► starts to show up in your you're so in [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► invention the plot of like are they [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► going to get the money there in time and [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► they have to chase the guys and all that [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► and then there's that moment of the [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► street where the cops are standing there [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► and suddenly everybody starts brewing [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► and you're like alright the bears [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► they're booing and in fact the silk and [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► says holy yeah yeah i just love how so [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► much of this movie is just sitting [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► standing still and talking you know it's [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► in a very dramatic looking microphone [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► and the command center right and and the [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► weird thing is the remake does this to [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► accept they don't know how to do it well [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► because you get a solution [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► I mean you are on the edge of your seat [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► in the whole movie in the original and [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► you know it's just amazing to me because [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► it because it's almost real time for the [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► most most part of the movie because they [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► have one and have like a little over an [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► hour as the deadline from when the the [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► hijacking starts to when they're gonna [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► start killing people so it's almost a [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► real-time movie i should point out that [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► their goal in in stealing this subway [TS]

01:01:40 ◼   ► train is is to receive 1 million 1 [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► million dollars which is about a million [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► in today's money we look right but which [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► which which made me laugh initially [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► because because of course the Austin [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► Powers parallel which you know even back [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► then doesn't seem like a whole heck of a [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► lot of money for as big of a caper and [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► especially when they're splitting it [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► four ways that happens on the drain [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► right it's there like how much money you [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► guys ever us the the real my real [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► favorite line of films when they ask how [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► much they're being a ransom for and the [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► guy says 1 million dollars in the [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► elderly jewish [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► and says that's not so terrific i [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► imagine number of the incomparable [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► listeners uh aspire to creative [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► endeavors and one of the reasons i [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► picked this movie is I really think the [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► the script of the original taking of [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► pelham 123 is just masterfully [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► constructed Justin it never really lags [TS]