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189 april 2014
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welcome back to the uncomfortable
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podcast I'm your host Jason Snell and
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we're going to talk about a movie a
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classic movie not an old movie we're not
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going to call it old I don't know what
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the cutoff is for old but it precedes
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1980 and this movies from 83 so we're
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not going to call it all but it is a
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movie we we think I believe pickup
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formerly it is John badams 1983
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techno-thriller Cold War techno-thriller
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shall we say war games and here to join
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in talking about global thermonuclear
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war are my guests David lure hello hello
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good to have you as always
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John Syracuse's also here hi John I
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Jason just want to say that i love the
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eighties yeah they're totally awesome
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that's what I say I great losses here hi
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hi Jason good to have you play a game
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how about a nice game of volleyball for
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now one of the options lip the poop out
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of the menu Jason group up be you missed
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it sorry to bed and indian taco is also
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here Heidi greetings professor Snell ok
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little more Dalek that I think you're
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going alright so war games this is a
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movie i have we all I did we all go back
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and watch it again i watched it a couple
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days ago I did yeah alright um was that
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all anybody not watch it recently to the
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check i watched a little bit of it i
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didn't watch the whole theron I I
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haven't seen this movie and so long and
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yet I realized as we were watching it
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that I have it completely memorized so
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obviously I've seen it a dozen times at
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least because i remember details i
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remember long stretches of dialogue
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whole scenes where the dialogue and yet
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it's been probably at least 10 or 15
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years since I've seen it so it was
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really kind of nice it was a nice to
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come back to a familiar familiar friend
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in this movie
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when did you mean was this a movie that
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that that you all saw it within you know
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when it came out or or soon thereafter
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because I I certainly did I i can't
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remember i think i saw it in a movie
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theater in 82 or 83 83 I remember
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dragging my parents to see it in the
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theater because it was we had just moved
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up to New York and it came out and I
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went that's what i want and they said
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Eric we've ripped you out of your happy
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comfortable Florida life and let's go to
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a movie and ya know I loved it I loved
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although it may I still remember all of
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the technology was not in a very tech
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heavy family so just the the idea of
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modems what is this modem thing you know
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everything in the movie was being a
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total science fiction I I was used to a
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trs-80 that was about it
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I don't remember not having seen this
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movie I was other than those movies that
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I remember the first time I saw it I
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don't remember time before I saw I'll
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just has always been in my life in the
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end of eight days and of my past and
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like like Jason I hadn't seen it in so
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many years just don't know how many
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years maybe it maybe 15 years I but i
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knew i had this movie memorized like
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even not having seen the movie i felt
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like i could recite scenes from it and
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seeing it again yeah i can continue
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except with with some exceptions i think
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we'll get to that was big blank spots
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this movie for me
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yeah Andy I had not seen it in about a
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year and a half two years its it really
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is one of those movies were if I have
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not seen it in a while the next
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opportunity i have where I just that the
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the movie pops into my head or I see it
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like I'm scrolling through netflix is
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recommended movie chances are about
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seven out of ten I'm gonna wind up
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seeing it because it
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I i think i think it's kind of like are
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preferred for not just our generation
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but are sort of social group
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this is like our version of the Graduate
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wear it so that it's so encapsulate us
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that this is us on that screen that is
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just hard to relate to it in the same
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way that like people who are not of that
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generation and we're not doing those
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things at that age can relate to it
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that's how I remember it
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yeah me that the other i'll just say the
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the one thing that absolutely got my
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heart that just absolutely made me think
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this is this is me this is my group is
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when it is when he's trying to he's
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trying to hack into provision and he's
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been up all night if this isn't early
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that you can tell this isn't that he got
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up early to do this it means that it's
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seven in the morning he's been up since
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this since seven the previous morning
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that expression where he's just mashing
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his face with his head with his fingers
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drawing his bottom eyelids down and just
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like looking at the screen and disbelief
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that I can't believe it i'm still going
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to have to go for another two hours to
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try to solve this i have seen that face
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reflected in a green phosphoricum
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10-under night after night after night
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yeah Greg you were going to say you use
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the same same deal
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well yeah i saw in theaters because it
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was the first movie that kind of spoke
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to the subculture i was in you know I
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knew people that had their BMX movies
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and people had their break dancing
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movies and games was a nerd I i will
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just say I i had no BMXers or break
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dancers in my peer group i'll just say
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that no but they were at the same school
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I was a they all beat up on you borrowed
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the affectations of those subcultures
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and I had a 2400 baud modem and a couple
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of phone numbers and I lived online and
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so you know to see somebody who was also
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war dialing and doing something
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interesting with it and who had a
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girlfriend who looks like Elly shady was
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all very very exciting
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yes well especially that one of the more
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unrealistic things the movie anyway
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I think the key to this is the key to
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this movie is for our for our peer group
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is but one for people our age you know
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having grown up in the eighties with
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sort of sort of the the dread of nuclear
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annihilation I think everybody in our
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generation can connect with that but
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then this movie specifically puts people
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like us and the position to accidentally
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destroy the war destroy the world or
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well no 22 sorry but 22 to be the hero
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of the story like we know there's this
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dread you know this existential dread of
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nuclear holocaust right and here's a
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movie where people like us are people
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like what we aspire to be because i
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thought i was i was too young i was i
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was sort of aspiration like I would like
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to be like Matthew Broderick when I grow
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up and do that where the hero we get to
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save the world that almost destroyed
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accidentally to which is fun but then be
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the hero and and save it and so it was
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the one-two punch of you know movies
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that speak to the fierce kids have about
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the world ending and then like the the
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super-rare movie where it's like and
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guess what the Nerds going to save the
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day and you know and also by the way the
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sub-theme of using computers to impress
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girls which yeah it's not actually
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working real life the way it does but
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maybe check out my acoustic couple of
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modem yeah okay so we should i if there
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are no other opening remarks I thought
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we would dive into the movie and just
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kind of move through it sequentially
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does that sound ok with everyone very
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linear very very methodical that's the
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goat goes straight through Falcon space
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i'm sorry i am i am that's exactly right
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but we started one of the nice things
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about this movie is it starts with a
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with a fake out which is hey let's go
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see that movie the computer movie I've
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heard so much about
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and we open on a snowy playing in it and
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you know it's like South Dakota or or
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Montana or somewhere for all we know and
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a car comes through the snow and enters
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a house and then something strange
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happens they look in a mirror and and
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and suddenly we're there
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turns out they're ushered back into a
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secret government installation where
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they are Manning the nuclear missile
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silo and hey it's john spencer ya lil
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McGarry never ages because he looks the
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same agents movies in the West Wing like
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how is that possible even
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Matthew Broderick is starting to look a
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little older it is it's Leo McGarry
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except he's now been demoted and he
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hasn't had been promoted and he works
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for the Air Force I guess firing nuclear
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missiles
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I had no memory of this opening scene
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because when it opened I was afraid that
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i had the wrong movie I might want to
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visit my guess is they get into the
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thing with the keys i remember that
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whole sequence but the very opening
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sequence where it's snowy and trucks i
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guess when I was a kid my brain didn't
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turn on you until they get in there in
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the room with the keys
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yeah but but they go everything so one
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of the notes i wrote down is everything
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I know about nuclear missiles and all
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their protocols and how they work is
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from this movie and a hundred October
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maybe hunt for red october a little bit
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and maybe like crimson tide but really
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it all comes back to there are two guys
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there are two keys and ultimately turn
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your key sir that's it to you
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that's it about dr. Strangelove I want
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to watch that until much later and it
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was influenced entirely by four games it
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was all through the war games
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it's all that john john spencer is down
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there in a hole somewhere with that
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other dude and they're there they're
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going through the codes and they've got
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the little book and every movie I've
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seen since I always think about the look
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at this scene the little plastic snap
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and half things with the paper inside
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them right and hope the whole point of
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this scene is that given every
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indication that they need to fire their
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missile john spencer refuses to fire the
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missile and we discover then we cut to
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the government briefing that Maurice
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Minnifield from northern exposure is
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this is a problem that lots of his guys
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won't fire the nuclear missiles and so
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they just so they decide to replace them
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with computers
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well it was only twenty-two percent or
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something wasn't it and like that they
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click they call that like that the
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percentage of infantry soldiers who
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don't fire at the enemy it's like the
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firing rate or something someone can
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look it up but that that doesn't seem
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like such a bad percentage i think the
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firing rate for its it's a pretty damn
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bad percentage mean who has to be the
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poor guy who has to like explain to the
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guy who had the gun sixer turn your key
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that you just shot and killed Leo
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exercise it wasn't even really war
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well they gave him blanks
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every place the gun is a blanket we
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don't we don't overswing because we see
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him later
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this is a crossover crossover with the
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game saw those blanks
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it's still a hell of a test to you walk
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into work one day and realize you have
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to me i like the planets the job is
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working for the government that's
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exactly what you're gonna get with that
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but that's part of that's part of the
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movie like the reason I was a kid that
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this works so well is you totally
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believe that there were people with this
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job and you understood that this is not
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a fiction that there's that there's
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actual people whose job it is to go in
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there every day and this is this is the
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job this is what they're signed up to do
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and like you buy into the whole thing
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that like well they're supposed to do
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the job but it's a hard job to do and
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how did that you know like in as an
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adult watching this movie and lots of
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things seem very silly but because I was
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the kid in the eighties that saw this
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then like I can still connect back with
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the deadly seriousness of you know of
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these vaguely silly things
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absolutely that's that's another thing
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that I'd wonder if later generations can
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really appreciate that if your kid
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growing up in the eighties every news
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report was high your president is an old
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addled former movie movie actor who
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really wants a nuclear war who has eight
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who has aids were telling them that you
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know what you should not let the
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Russkies get away with anything
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everything with anything because if they
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even if they do fire some missiles we
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have a magical shield in the sky that
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will shoot those missiles down so
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absolutely build more nukes ramp up the
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war there's a probably about as seven
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and eighty chance that if you're a
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teenager you will wind up fighting in
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Afghanistan or something
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it really wasn't it wasn't like the cold
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war the in the sixties but it was still
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a really tense time if you had a this is
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this is why one of the biggest TV shows
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dramas at that time was just an entire
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night of abject depression saying after
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the nuclear war happens which is going
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to happen here is what the what the day
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after that is going to be like for those
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of you who by the way you didn't live
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through it and he's referring to the
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cosby show those sweaters two sweaters
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Jason the sweater and multiple multiple
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pattern in boundary entry vehicles
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yes uh so more but the good news is
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Dabney Coleman tvs to have any Coleman
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has a plan to replace all of the Leo
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mcGarry's of the world who don't want to
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anarchy and annihilate everybody in you
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know hundreds of thousands of people in
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Russia with the whopper which is a very
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silly name for a very powerful
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supercomputer that's going to run
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military service simulations learn all
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of the details and be able to plan based
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on the NORAD war plans fat faster than
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even though the Chiefs of Staff and the
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President and so you just tell the
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whopper what to do and it will fire the
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missiles for you isn't that nice
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computers always do whatever you want
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yeah let's put all the nuclear missiles
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in the computer because computers what
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would that what they're saying here with
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Daddy Coleman is saying here is
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computers are more reliable than people
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and therefore we should take the human
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element out of the equation of course
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there's a lot of things that are
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topsy-turvy in this movie like just you
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know things that are different now
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because we're you know more progressive
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like that the sexism all the stuff that
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we'll talk about in a bit but this was
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the first thing that struck me as being
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a scene that would not exist in the
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current movie because in this scene you
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have the computer guy advocating for the
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sort of more rigid militaristic
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everybody has to follow orders the
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computer can take over fire because we
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know it will fire every single time and
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you had the southern all-american four
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star general in his dress uniform being
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the peacemaker dove saying you know we
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need the people in there we need men
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like in a modern movie the military
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would be all for the killing machine
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thing and the computer guys would be the
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dubs and saying you know oh I don't come
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on comfortable with killing people or
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whatever totally upside down from the
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current view of what the guy with the
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military guy with the computer guy
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responses and that kind of runs
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throughout this movie you everybody in
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their various roles is the opposite of
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what those roles would be today i don't
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know i don't think the military guys so
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the piece nick is he's the old-fashioned
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I believe in the judgment of my men
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well ya thought that what it gets too is
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that light ism Trump's militaristic you
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know zeal like he is more afraid of
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computers then he is like but you know
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he's defending the weak link basically
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the yeah sure the humans don't fire
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twenty-two percent of the time but
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dammit we have to stick with them
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because i don't want those darn
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computers coming in so that that's the
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threat of his place in the movie still
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to be backwards and everything but not
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backwards in the way of like I'm going
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to destroy everybody I'm crazy military
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backwards in the way I fear all
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technology to such a degree that I'm
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willing to stick with the people who are
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less reliable weapon rather than go that
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those scary computers
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well i think a John to jump off of that
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the this movie in some ways even though
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it was only made in 1982 and lots of
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movies were made before that and lots of
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movies have been made after that and yet
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in some ways this movie starts us on a
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path for it predates some clichés and
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it creates some clichés and and so it
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watching it now you're taking a back by
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the fact that some like some movie and
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TV clichés about what the hackers
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always thinking what the military guys
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always think are mixed up a little bit
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and then there's also a bunch of things
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that people do that you're like uh I you
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know that this you know I'm in it said
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many many times in this movie but it's
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like back then it was it was kind of
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okay it's just now it's been overused
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but back then they had to explain what
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was going on in a way that they don't
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right now but but you're right the the
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idea that Maurice Minnifield from
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northern exposure who has who has a name
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but I don't care he's always more
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worries Minnifield behringer is that is
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that no yes general Beringer yes thank
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hehe yeah he doesn't trust the computers
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because they're all daii trust his guys
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the problem is guys are unreliable so
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he's got this difficult decision to make
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where he's got the unreliable men and
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then he's got the computer but it you
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know but it the experts say that it's
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really reliable and when you're facing
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down nuclear annihilation you want to be
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able to fire those missiles
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I think it's more about each each leader
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under wanting to work with the tools
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that understands the best where the
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general understands discipline and
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understands military military chain of
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command and understands people who are
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under his command and so even though
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it's be understands the possibility that
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they're pretty other people are not
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going to follow orders
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that means that you need to increase the
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training you need to change the way that
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these people are are weeded out
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whereas the person who's the engineer
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though there are not there's a nonzero
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percentage of people out there of
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Engineers Arthur who don't really
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understand people as well as they
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understand computers and they have more
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faith in computers than they have in
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people because at least when the
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computer fails to do something properly
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you can trace it to an actual fault as
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opposed to know the computer was just
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being a jerk today so I'd and then and
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not even to get into the idea of each of
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these guys wants to defend their own
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budget you know if you if you have all
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these silos staffed by men that you
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actually need to have staff and training
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facilities and support for them
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he's defending his budget like a good
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bit like a good government employee and
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a good defense contractor as a as the
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computer engineer would do well isn't
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the whole point of the movie to advocate
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for humanism
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I mean even Joshua becomes human
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effectively at the end he developed a
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conscience and learns and that I mean if
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viewed in the light of the eighties when
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everything you know computers were going
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to take over everything but in a bad way
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your job is going to be computerized
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away I I think it speaks to that is that
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the the good guy
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the good authority figure the the one
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that is ultimately right is the one who
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wants to keep men in and the bad guy is
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the one who wants to remove human
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judgment and the Savior is the computer
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program that learns human judgment no I
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don't agree with any of that yet I think
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it's more those are all pieces and in
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the morality play and a basic question
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once you throw like relay I into the mix
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which you know is it's silly and it
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takes it becomes a fantasy movie at that
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point you realize that all these pieces
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on the board are there because there's
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some message that they're trying to get
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I and it involves these players on the
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board but not like because the military
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guy by the end of the movie i'm not i
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don't have a feeling that he was right
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or wrong he was the same as he always
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was he was just kind of along for the
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ride and the same thing with
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what's-his-name McKittrick he he's
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trying to you know do what he does but
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he doesn't seem to grow change much by
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the end of the movie either it's all
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just through this play of the AI
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interacting with this kid interacting
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with that you
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falken does have a bit of an arc finally
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you know restoring faith in humanity but
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we're just supposed to take away the
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lesson that you know the killer was
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stupid all gonna die
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well that here's here's here's the thing
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both definitely will use their the
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actors because we don't remember the
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characters names would Danny colon and
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Barry Corbin they both have the exact
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same goal they both want that if if an
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actual authorized and then second order
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comes from The Oval Office to launch
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nuclear missiles they all want that to
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yes that's there they simply have a
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difference that once those orders have
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what's the best way to implement that at
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having both realized that there are
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false orders in this computer
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neither of them wants the missiles to
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launch and to the other point of Joshua
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requirement conscience no he doesn't all
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he does is he is a computer he's
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programmed to it part of the whopper
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program is to work out once they have a
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goal has been loaded into the computer
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figure out how to achieve that goal he
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never says oh what would be wrong to
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kill so many people under the auspices
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of foreign policy it says no I've tried
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out every single way to launch missiles
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at Russia in such a way that the
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response will not be absolutely
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devastating for the United States i have
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worked them all out
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none of them work the only was correct
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solution to win this game is to not to
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play at all
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that's not a moral decision as far as
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Josh was concerned that simply brute
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force computation on its trying to shake
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the the the military man out of the out
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of the pretending that there is
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something winnable here when in fact
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it's it's not and that even a computer
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even a logical computer can come to that
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conclusion if you just ask it to run the
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numbers which they never did I guess
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before do not take this too far off the
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rails but Andy are you arguing that you
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can't come to a moral decision based off
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rational calculations i'm arguing that
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there's no evidence in this movie that
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Joshua came to a moral decision
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yeah like what my connection to this
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movie as a kid was one part with the
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whole nuclear war thing and how that's a
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bad idea like it definitely took that
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away from the movie right you know so
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that's great but the other one was the
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the real like the real chillin
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connection with this inhuman AI it was
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you know it was kind of how light
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because i don't think i've seen 2001
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before I saw this
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I like the part where where Matthew
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Broderick being the proxy for me is the
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you know the aspirational nerd of the
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audience is in a terrible situation
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whose girlfriend is ally sheedy yeah
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well yeah it in a terrible situation and
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you know in mckettricks office and and
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he's typing on the terminal to Joshua or
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whatever he says is this real or is this
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a game and and there's a look at the
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good pause and subsequent editing this
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with a little pause and josh says what's
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the difference that is a chilling moment
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with them zooming in on the screen you
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realize i agree with andy the computer
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doesn't know or care it doesn't
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what's the difference in real and you
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know it has no connection to the outside
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world as far as that's concerned it's
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not concerned with any of the things
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that were consorting with so it was it
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was strong AI in terms of like the
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single spirit had a personality and
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thoughts and acts on its own and it is
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totally unfeeling and uncaring in an
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alien sort of way like how and even
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though it's not really the point the
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movie even though i think that's just
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there to move along the morality play
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get the message out of the end
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Joshua is an incredibly chillin and
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creepy character and that's my biggest
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connection to the movies with the
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computer and with like the kid who
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breaks into the computer realize these
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face-to-face with the abyss basically at
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this point
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yeah but that's the early Joshua and
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Joshua comes to a rational morality at
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the end of the movie
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well if you define morality as you work
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the numbers and found I mean it I you
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may be arguing the same point you can't
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you can't win a nuclear war so so we
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need to not do that because yeah so
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let's try different game that you can
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win but he doesn't he doesn't make any
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distinction you you bet you bet you've
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asked me to do you have asked me to
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calculate a solution to the problem how
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do i what how do I win this war against
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the USSR it calculated solution which is
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the only way to win this game is to not
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to play it
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not that there is no more not that
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there's a moral imperative not to take
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human life not that metrolist sure
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discuss the destruction was a bad
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foreign policy to begin with but
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something that you've asked me a
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question the answer is 42 now it's up to
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you to figure out whether the questions
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with words was worth asking the same is
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the same as tactile he comes the same
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conclusion tecnico for it for the same
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reasons it's not because he cares about
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the x and the O's anymore than he cares
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about the people is just there the
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criteria the input is you win if if the
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people in the United States turned dead
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and here and all the numbers in Oregon
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said I think they did it but it's the
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dawning of his awareness he is your
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right is totally cold and calculate
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earlier on and the fact that i'm using a
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male pronoun to describe the computer
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program he does not have a penis i'm
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pretty sure i wanted to draw a parallel
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between Joshua and and falken because in
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in that last summer weight where we're
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going to circle back around to the front
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of the movie but in at last seen at the
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falken is very peculiar if you watch
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that scene because he is sort of smiling
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the whole time like he knows how it's
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going to play out and and and when we
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first see him he's very fatalistic and
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thinks that you know humanity is going
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to be made extinct and I watching at
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this time i read that as falken knows
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how this computer is going to think and
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it's gonna end it is going to do what it
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needs to do and if that means blowing up
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all humanity that's fine so be it he may
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even know that it's inevitable that it's
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going to do it and that he's happy about
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that and then when he smiling he's
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watching Matthew Broderick walk through
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this whole process I think it's I think
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he's going through this same process
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that he knows the computer is going
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through where it's being flipped around
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its orientation is changing into not
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playing the game after all so I i saw a
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little parallel there that Vulcan knows
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what his computer is capable of at the
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beginning when he is convinced that
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humanity is going to destroy itself and
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then he's he knows exactly what is going
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to happen with matthew broderick
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figuring it out at the end because he
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he's not active really at all he's just
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kind of hanging around smiling and
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nodding like you'll figure it out
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he prides him in the right direction and
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also it may hit he does have the
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character he decided he could have just
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gone up to bed after you know again
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getting back to me but he decided
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instead of dialing his helicopter force
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up a change he changes his mind he
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decides to give humanity a chance
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through you know Matthew Broderick which
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is no substitutes what my son would
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might have been if he had grown older
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and it with the correct product and
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instruction he will figure out what is
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the solution that he you know making
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play tic-tac-toe basically and he's the
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guy who managed the easily he's the guy
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who basically gives Matthew Broderick
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characters that the past again ignore
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dad saying yeah you don't don't shoot
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this guy even though you think that he's
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the easy risky spy who actually who set
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this whole thing off
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I'm the guy who invented the system i'm
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telling you you gotta you gotta let him
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yeah so I wanted to show so let's let's
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move let's move back to gallica Matthew
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Broderick is playing galaga in a in a in
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a in a video arcade I had to explain
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that they were backed by that and and
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and the the note i have here is just
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seeing Matthew Broderick from this
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period I can you know connected to
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ferris bueller's day off and I thought
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this is like Ferris Bueller's the day
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the earth stood still
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it's strange combination everybody's
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gonna sneak up behind him while he's
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playing the game
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yeah very strange i felt bad when I saw
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him playing galaga that it didn't look
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old to me everything
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nylon temporary and I said wait a second
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suppose look retro and although like now
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it's just Gallagher what's wrong with
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that's one of the new games but you
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understand look at the graphics it and
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and Ally Sheedy you know there-there's
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ally sheedy we want to talk about Ally
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Sheedy she's I feel so bad about her in
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this movie poor ally sheedy she has to
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be the Manic Pixie dumb girl throughout
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this whole movie
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I feel so like I did not see this the
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first time I saw the movie and like they
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make her they make her manic they make
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her so dumb and her her bromance with
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Matthew broader is not believable in any
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way and he doesn't even seem interested
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in her and truth be told I was not
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interested in her when I first saw this
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movie because I wasn't old enough to be
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interested in her and now that i see her
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my call this part because she's a
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perfectly fine actress we see here in
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things later at you but here she's
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giving nothing to do
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she does not come off well and I felt
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terrible for the whole movie isn't she
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just the audience proxy to explain
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what's happening on the screen
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yeah she fills that role but do you have
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to make her seem so dumb to do I mean
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have you like that the you so seems like
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she's going up the stairs and a dastard
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a definite forward they make your not be
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able to read the word trajectory off the
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screen it's like come on give her a
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break okay that that was that was kind
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of harsh but it's good this in a movie
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like this is good to point out that
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Matthew Broderick's character is not
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socially normal and his interests are
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not normal relative to the other kids
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are in this movie
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with you that that you could have made
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her a little bit stronger and a little
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bit more together Atlantic there you
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could have deleted couples lines that
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made her look kind of ditzy but I would
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much rather see that then see the
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mistake that is not that modern movies
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make in the opposite direction which is
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to say well forecasting that girl team
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that's going to like be with Matthew
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product she has to be every bit as good
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as Matthew broader she has to know as
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much about computers know she will have
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to have been the person who invented the
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computer that Matthew Broderick is using
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like know what if she's just worried
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what if she's strong in her own way she
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doesn't have to be the female version of
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the male lead which i think i think it's
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just a sexist time to take a break and
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that she had to do was focus on f1 was
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make that connection so she does that so
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she has a little bit more emotional
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support for him which is kind of a
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than just being manic all the time but
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but in general I felt like she was not
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respected as much by the movie as i
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would have liked and I agree with andy
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it would have been worse if she had to
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be the scientist that invented the
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computer because that is totally a
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getting an A in English she's not they
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didn't make her bad and everything she's
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you can see my next step
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this is what i was going to say is that
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that support that's a point where they
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missed an opportunity because i really
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like that scene where she says no and
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you get the sense like oh well you see
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Matthew Broderick has no morals he if he
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does he's gonna if he can use technology
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to do it
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he will do it and but then they back off
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of it where she comes and she says he
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had changed my grade anyway and I think
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she does that because she's supposed to
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be like oh she likes the boy so she
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feels bad about snubbing him and that's
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another sort of subordinate oh I'm sorry
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that expressing my feelings might have
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been offensive to the mail so i have to
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go back and be submissive and say it's
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okay i didn't like the she changed her
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mind and I didn't I
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I'm trying to figure why they made you
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change your mind and it seemed to me she
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changed it because she wants still
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wanted to have this friendship with or
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whatever with matthew broderick and she
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felt that she might have offended him by
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so strongly voicing their concern that
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the great be changed
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I didn't see that the only reason she's
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there is two to borrow a phrase from
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another much much worse movie about tech
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the net i'm working on this Miller when
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when they were doing the press for that
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Bullock's friend in the movie and and he
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needed this interview where he explained
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that he was the expositional eunuch and
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i love that phrase and is it
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he's there to explain things or have
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things explained to him because
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otherwise there's no reason for anyone
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to explain these things you know I mean
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the audience needs to know them but
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there's no logical reason so she has to
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be an idiot so that everyone can explain
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well this is a modem and this is how you
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dial to other computers and this is how
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you do this and say you do that and but
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yeah I kind of wish you were not quite
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so does she could be ignorant being
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ignorant is fine right but being a
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seeming to be not like intelligent and
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areas that aren't related to computers
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this like adding insult to injury is not
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necessary though I think they did a good
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job when when there is no sort of
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expositional unit in the room for
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example again when when Matthew
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Broderick's up and and mckettricks
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because I left him alone in room with
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the computer because their dump he reads
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aloud everything that comes on the
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screen probably mostly just to make sure
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that the kids in the audience who can't
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read I can't read that fast following
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along but it also gives him a chance to
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act and it i mean it kind of occurred to
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me this time around but in general I
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still think it sounded kind of
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naturalistic he's reading the words on
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the screen out loud to himself in a way
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that doesn't come off as like oh they're
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just doing that so we in the audience
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like it just seems to flow from me
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music was in the movie a million times
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but it just goes to show if there's no
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one there to 4x additional purposes it's
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fine for the one person in the room to
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just read everything allowed as he reads
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it types it
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well she also she also gives him that
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emotional intelligence which we
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mentioned earlier which i think is true
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a ride later so you know she's like i'll
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pick you up
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I surprise him at the airport don't
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think you know what would you see that
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in a modern movie the male hero riding
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she jogs to his house as well those two
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scenes I think make her more interesting
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character because I i don't think that
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they would allow the pretty girl love
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interest in a modern movie to be the
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driver of the moped or but isn't doesn't
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that just try and I mean use her to
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reinforce Matthew Broderick's nerdom
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that this is a city should really I
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think she really is playing the role of
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dr. Watson in this where she is that he
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is she she is the person says by Jove's
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how did you determine that and then
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expect then he's also the one who has to
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be the the former military person who
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can ride a moped because you're Sherlock
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how a moped works but doesn't know how
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to operate one I i do see we're coming
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just I just didn't see it I didn't see
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it at all when I was a kid it just say
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seeing is an adult now so many of the
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things that are sort of retrograde
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socially speaking jump out at you and
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it's a strange mix again with her with
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her doing that like jogging to the house
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is the one that really blew my mind
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because again didn't remember that at
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all like that set it would you have the
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you know the female lead in a movie jog
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to the house of boys should be all
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sweaty when she got there but she
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doesn't care this character doesn't care
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she's also anyone she got this year and
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there because she likes to run because
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running is fun like she's more of a
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tomboy and interesting sort of
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well-rounded character
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whereas if you put you know if it's
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megan fox if he's jogging the house is
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going to be in this cute jogging outfit
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and it's going to be all about like
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we're going out jogging she's not gonna
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that's not going to be the way she
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transports herself to go over the house
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of the boy that she's interested in
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silver linings playbook
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yeah that's better executed happen you
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know then that is definitely not a
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stereotypical
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think I think it's more like she's the
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opposite of matthew broderick in every
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way and the movie has two is always
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looking for opportunities to show that
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this is something that Matthew Broderick
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either can't do or has no interest in
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doing all the way up to
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okay that's no problem the the time that
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we missed last ferry but it's only about
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a half mile away will just swim it and
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like what kinda like blank is like the
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seeing their yeah like you know that I
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think that works emotionally in terms of
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them realizing they're all gonna die but
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all over the place and I think if you
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took out a few of the things that make
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lots of people like they were good in
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humanities and couldn't I I friend of
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mine in high school you know I knew her
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that's that's all she did but she was
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this is 30 years ago and they didn't
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know how women work then huh
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some of that is true although well Polly
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look at alley shooting this movie too
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because she is constructed to be every
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computer nerd fantasy of this computer
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is really cool girl and she's gonna be
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like she could jog over the house we're
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gonna have a conversation is consistent
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things about feelings that whatever
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she's going to open the door and I'm
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going to not have my shirt on for no
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reason you have to have been looking at
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your browser beefcake and there's like
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who is that for example I mean maybe he
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was a sex symbol but it's not like he's
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like cut like Matthew McConaughey or
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something it's just kind of like he's a
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computer nerd with his shirt off
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well you know the getting into the whole
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body dysmorphia issues that the Nerds
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later in the movie bring about he was
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idealized in every way even as a nerd
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yeah I suppose that's true although like
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like the lack of over like oh you see
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like this
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the whole there's no plot line for
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Matthew Broderick is obsessed with ally
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sheedy and like has a crush on her
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there's no red like when she comes in he
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doesn't quickly hide himself like he's
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embarrassed by his dirty underwear but
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like it's so beautifully sweet and naive
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in terms of like everything is so sexed
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up now that these two would have to just
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have this constant hot sexual attraction
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kiss barely on the cheek a kiss on the
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cheek a bunch right you get it
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well they kiss on the lips that kiss on
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the lips later but but she comes in the
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room and he doesn't go oh I can't have
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my shirt on he's not like a baby look at
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me and she's not leaving that no one is
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leaving at anyone know it which is
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probably idealized you know because
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realistically speaking teenage boys are
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just you know balls of hormones but it's
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it's just so nice to see a movie where
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that that's not even like a subplot like
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it doesn't get in the way of the rest of
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the movie we don't care for two of them
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get together that's not what this movie
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is about
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yeah I give if this were made today
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maybe the sexual tension she'd be his
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equal and everything and he would
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probably turn out to be dr. Falcons real
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son and she would look a lot differently
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Joshua would have a robot body yes of
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course it would shift will be Megan Fox
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basically so so um take it so i want to
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mention a couple things about about the
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mark matthew broderick in his house the
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take out the garbage you need to take
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out the garbage seen struck me because I
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realized that the entire Justin Long
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character in galaxy quest is just mad
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that Roderick for more games including
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they play like all the same scenes it's
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he literally is going to take out the
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garbage at an important point in the
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plot of galaxy quest so I hadn't really
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thought about that but that is
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completely just a wargames reference if
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you watch galaxy quest and both the dog
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saves the world by the way by knocking
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over the garbage can both the dog saved
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the entire world that's what I realized
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this thing because it during that during
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that simulation was running no one was
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there to tell them it's a simulation
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almost there anything like that he
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interrupt because the dog knocked it
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over because his parents were stirring
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and made him get off the computer right
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now and fix the garbage he quit the
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program by turning off the computer and
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dropping the carrier and automatically
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cease the simulation so it was a
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simulation was still going but it didn't
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continue along with the pace of business
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out if it had proceeded apace with him
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at the computer and had not gone down
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there that would be it came over so get
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the dog
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thank you I'm overworld over i wanted to
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mention the his parents eating raw corn
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it's just one of the most bizarre what
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was with the bread with the butter i
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asked my wife is consistent with you
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know what does that something that
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anyone in this podcast does when you put
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butter on the bread and then you roll
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the corn and know that more in order nor
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did I remember that that was bizarre and
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then the corn is raw and it's just like
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a wacky let's do i do joke at the matter
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is that I remember because my mom was
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gonna like that mateys
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that was really weird and then in a
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moment when the when he sets up the
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dialing and he's explaining that he's
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dialing all the numbers and I thought
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you had a war dialer oh right from what
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games did all the old-timers used to
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call that a demon dieter program but now
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it's just were dialing because because
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of war games
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I had a I had a 300 baud modem at this
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at this period and I did do some more
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dialing and the best I ever came up with
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I didn't get to the secret government
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research station or did nor did I able
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was able to proclaim provision
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I have you now instead I found like the
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local hospitals billing system free
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health care for everybody that was a fun
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time when every computer assume that oh
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well if you have this number and you
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know and we have a piece of equipment
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connect I just assume that you've got
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authorization to be here so so many of
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these things didn't even ask for a
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password its just oh here's a menu of
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everything I know how to do
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thank you that time is not that long ago
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because i was in college in the nineties
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and our College in the nineties at the
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dawning of the internet had to write
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permissions on for everyone's TTYL and
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the entire university which you know
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which meant you could send messages to
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anyone screen anywhere you like the the
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the age of free love on the internet
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that's a long time so yeah you dolled up
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in a motor it would answer and show you
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the menu and right up into the nineties
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if you're online with the school of
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30,000 people you can write a ski snails
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their screen to your heart's content
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that change like a year and a half and
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why because some kids had a ruin it for
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everybody
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guilty as charged I i had a friend who
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used to be like work for MIT of the MIT
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police as they're like tech security guy
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and he used to love the first like month
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of a brand new semester we went all of
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these kids who are like King Kong of
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their scope of their school in terms of
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work and I've i can break into the spell
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checker of my about my teachers of my
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teachers laptop underwear that yeah
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guess what I've seen every trick you've
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ever done because most of them were
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invented here and I invented some of
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them hope you hope you enjoyed your four
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days at MIT before we booted you out for
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for violation of the agreement that you
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signed a nice story for mom so some some
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technology notes here I he's dialing
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from Seattle to the bay area and she
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asks is not expensive and he says there
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are ways around that so there's your
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phone phreaking reference if you go to
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jail for that she says I remember that
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entire entire conversation verbatim i
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was able to quote that only carry out
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only you only if you're 18 connection
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terminated
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how rude is another thing i wrote down
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because I thought that was pretty funny
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how rude and and i wrote this down for
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Jon he's got one of those monitors that
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make a beep sound every time it prints a
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letter on the screen I i have that
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rundown and what I wanted what my
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question my notes is is this for that
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started because it is perfectly monitors
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makes it like it is done every every
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time a word come to screen BB BB i love
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that ever since then I want and I want
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every computer I own to do that to make
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some sort of noise to indicate that it's
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actually working on some know it to
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indicate that visual and text appearing
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on the screen because you get you can
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see with your eyes but what if you did
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if it didn't make a noise really be on
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the screen really but this you know this
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this this it's that's that's an
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interesting thing to point out because
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historically like the the three minute
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mile of moviemaking has been how do you
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make text appearing on the screen and or
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people typing into and anyway an
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interesting scene in a movie
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it practically can't be
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that I think this might be the only
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movie that ever really pulled it off
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maybe maybe that and desk set but that
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was like when teletypes in the nineteen
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fifties anyway the Sprint racing
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katharine hepburn so automatically if
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there are running a computer that they
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could be operating a CPM machine and
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that would still be interesting but it's
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proof and i have to say like if there's
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an older movie than this that does the
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BB text on screen because it I in the
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chat room i mentioned alien does this at
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the beginning it's got the same readout
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then every day I so i assume did
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predated but like it is it saturates
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this movie and and I and it's ok but
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like the way they make that the computer
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interesting is movie I don't think it's
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the beeping it's the pacing is the
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pacing of the interaction the fact that
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there's an AI on the other side of the
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thing makes it interesting it's like
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interacting with how and they have these
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pregnant pauses before you know
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variable-length pregnant pauses for
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maximum dramatic effect you know when
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things come back we're up to the we have
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the the we have the fat engineer and the
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Urkel engineer you might want to look
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for a back door was this before or after
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revenge of the nerds before prototypical
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yeah I the the part that stood out to me
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in that scene is the terrible terrible
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program he says whenever I designed a
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system i always put in a simple password
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you're a terrible print like do not let
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this person right any security-related
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code like this but I mean it's funny
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because a lot of these security problems
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are still problems right there are still
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back bad back doors there are still
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passwords written down on pieces of
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paper that people can go see ya at the
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things written down on a piece of paper
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like this was the age before good
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passwords but so that's why it's pencil
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and Joshua over at least Joshua was
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mixed case right but they the culture
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now surrounding if you are a computer
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nerd no self-respecting computer would
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ever say i right
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you know every program that i write
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personally I put in a back door because
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that's like the worst thing you could
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possibly do and when we find out this
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like back doors on these routers or
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printers and other things we think the
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people who who wrote the code for them
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are terrible and the worst programmers
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ever but here i think if I think they're
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that this guy i think this guy
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yeah it was like a badge of honor now to
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even know what the back door is don't
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tell him about backdoors like it was
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again it wasn't naive error where before
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there was but in the modern era he comes
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off as a doof
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but but it happens I mean I reserve I
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don't write don't remember specifics or
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the last time I heard about this but you
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want you sometimes do here about an
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admin who decided to leave in an
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insurance policy just in case it doesn't
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it doesn't gets fired and he does not
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like the conditions under which he was
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oh yeah yeah but we condemn those people
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now though I'm just like exactly know
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that this work we would we be condemning
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those people too but these are these are
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people who are like Matthew Broderick
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technically should not have been trying
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to get into that games company even if
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even if it weren't actually the the
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secret nuclear missile firing computer
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he's just he's doing things because he
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feels as though because he has because
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this computer is a world in which he can
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have godlike powers of creation that
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means that all morality inside this
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world he has created his career is all
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sank to all Sanctus all sanctimonious in
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the eyes of the Lord because he is the
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Lord so that's that's something he
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concerned that something that I i
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imagine that person actually thinking up
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it's okay for me to put it back door and
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because the the f after this contract is
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finished they're gonna screw something
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up they're gonna come back to me and i
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can either spend four weeks trying to
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figure out what they did or i can simply
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walk right into the the kitty door in
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the back and actually fixed form
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yeah it's just funny because he was
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supposed to be like the mature competent
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one playing off of the screechie
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obnoxious overexcited one and the mature
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confident ones calm down little kid and
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let me tell you everything I write a
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program i do it terribly but the heat
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yes miss Potato Head this potato head
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and then another scene that I can speak
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for Batum this scene i think it can can
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we take a moment to praise the skills of
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mr. Eddie deezen he he is one of those
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character ask actors who had that that
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those five magical years where the Eddie
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deezen perfume was just in the air and
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every casting office and get in three
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times a day or three times a week so i
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would say get me and Eddie deezen type
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and but first check to see if Eddie
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deezen is available he was in 1941 he
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was an ivan reitman is first movie I
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want to help hold your hand every time
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playing and Eddie deezen character but
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if you're in if you're an eighties
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filmmaker that's everything you wanted
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and all the marin by everybody
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yeah he is
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he is of a kind right he he is he is
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what he is
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you get is the kind is the prototype is
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the one they made a mold from and as
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well as much as we don't like these ugly
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stereotypes about like nerds about our
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types of people unfortunately i would we
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all know Eddie deezen types we all know
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the the slovenly unshaven I always leave
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in the back door types
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hey I'm not talking about me and I
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didn't say the names
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exactly Greg and by the way back door
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tech mean something different now does
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you know that's the first the fourth
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really good show title we've had so far
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i'm glad that I'm glad the furthest
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first one that was not investment by
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John siracusa speaking of speaking of
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boring there's a lot of good library for
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people to see like the shots of the card
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catalog and microfilm ok so i was gonna
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this would not be an eighties movie
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where they're not a montage and in this
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case it is a montage of research with
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card catalogs and microfilm like in a
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movie about tech you're like oh yeah
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that tech wasn't really in the libraries
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that much he's in the card catalogs man
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and it's you know and he's looking
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things up and in the newspapers and
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there is zooming in on things that are
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clearly typewritten onto index cards
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like that's how he finds the information
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no it was said that you know it as the
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the children of a librarian we had to
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explain to our children what these
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things were like what it what are they
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doing right there in the computer well
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they had this drawer with cards is that
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yeah it was there was some there was
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some excitement to the card catalog is
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as a kid who experienced it like it some
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both something kind of like sacred
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likelike church where because even when
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computers were available this was
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different and everything was quiet and
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the library would teach you how to use
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the card catalog and all that is lost on
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anybody watching this movie in the
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modern era but who never did this
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because it just seems like some kind of
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anachronistic montage fill the things I
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don't understand
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remember the first time that you
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discover the reader's guide to
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periodical alleged literature
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oh yeah and your relative way but there
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is this there is this regular monthly
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series of hard bound books that will
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tell you to find every piece of timely
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information ever made and if i simply
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write this down on the
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piece of paper a librarian will give me
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this little magazine or this trade
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journal that is Magic that that was
[TS]
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another one of those points of
[TS]
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intersection with real life that I
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absolutely loved about this movie about
[TS]
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how sometimes to solve a problem you
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can't do it in a linear straightforward
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fashion you really do have to say I'm
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gonna have to learn everything I
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possibly can about this subject and i
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will only be able to see the answer once
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i see the entire world of information
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around this answer and yeah I was one of
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those kids who knew the new but the high
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school library the the public library
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and even the city library very very well
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because the first time that you realize
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that I need this piece of really
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technical information that I have no
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idea where to go for and then four weeks
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later you're actually your open envelope
[TS]
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and here is an actual set of data plans
[TS]
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from the patent filing for this thing
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you want to learn about or here is a
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technical paper written by the person
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who invented this because you decided
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you went to the good research library at
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bu and they found that they found this
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person's PhD dissertation which he
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explained everything there was to know
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about this video system like oh this is
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really this is real power
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I'm 14 years old and I stride this land
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like a colossus so Matthew Broderick
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becomes an expert on professor Falken
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and discovers that he's dead he died he
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was pretty old is 4141 screw you method
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rhetoric that doesn't that's another
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joke that i did not get first time I saw
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this movie in fact that supposed to be a
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joke because when I was a kid I I think
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I thought that was a hold when we saw it
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that's how old my parents were so they
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didn't laugh uh uh oh it's funny it's
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very funny and they figure out that his
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his son his son who died this Joshua and
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wherein shall we play a game the voice
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synthesis that he turns on so that we
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have some drama
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other than the boot of the of the text
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and I believe that's the actor who plays
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falken going through like a voc order or
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something I think that's a I think
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that's because it's
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in English accent and it's basically his
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accent so i think it actually is the
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same guy i don't know that for sure
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sounds like him that there's a lot of
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affectation to the voices because it's
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not it's not like Fred where it's like a
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you know take that little english sounds
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and build the words out of them with a
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couple special cases so i believe that
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it is an accurate but it's but it's
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affected in a way that it sounds like it
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doesn't it makes mistakes it says things
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in strange ways it works for dramatic
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effect but it's not dramatic in the way
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that human would read its dramatic in an
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alien kind of way like sort of halting
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strangely paste things running together
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with weird pauses where they shouldn't
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be I mean it's probably it's probably
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just because i saw when i was younger
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whatever but the voice still works for
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me it doesn't sound didn't sound dated
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sounds ominous interesting an alien
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people probably would have been familiar
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with the current Kurzweil had a really
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good voice of that text voice system
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that was used for that was mostly used
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for people who couldn't speak properly
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and so but had that it would say was it
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was unique enough that there was
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actually a radio station the locally
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that had access to that text access to
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that box and was using it for like
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character voices and so yeah it's I i
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would be I'd be shocked if it weren't if
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you weren't a real actor but no I think
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it's john would I think it's a great
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place dr. Falconer because it's even got
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his English accent it's a strange it's
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like all the voices because Stephen
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Hawking is famous for having an American
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accent for his computer voice because
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even though he's English his computer
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voice has an American accent this is the
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reverse where he flips on the
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text-to-speech and what we get is an
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English accent that sounds strangely
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like dr. Falcon and I never really
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noticed that before but this time it's
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it's totally him that's that and so it's
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it's processed and he's speaking in that
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stilted affected it's a computer voice
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kind of thing but it's meant to have us
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feel like this is his you know in the
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end since we know that this is his
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creation
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it's meant to sort of reflect him a
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little bit and this is where we get all
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the famous things that everybody
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remembers shall we play a game and and
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and we can we keep talking and there's
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tab there's some tabs are drinking some
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tab assignment it's a past see that
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that's that's how we know that they they
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feel there is
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no future there they will drink soda
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with Sakura in it will create tab i was
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gonna say we don't really notice the
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voice because we meet Joshua first right
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similar we get a wii any fan of the
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events will know that multiple what is
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multiple inbound re-entry vehicles is
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Merv's Merv's here is merv from from the
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abyss but here that matter brother
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doesn't know what they are i don't know
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but it's great right whatever I learned
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from a video game uh verbs i learned
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I didn't have noticed how much ascii art
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there was this movie like a lot of the
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graphics that appear on the screen for
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that US map like it has like upside-down
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fees for the you know for the warheads
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splitting but it's all on character
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boundaries you know i guess i guess that
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some of these raster graphics I think
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there's a lot of ascii art mix them well
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idea there was that how would how would
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they get graphics across this little
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modem right so it's the text art and
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then they go to the actual at NORAD it's
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got its got you know the the vector
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based there you know stuff that they've
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got on the screen
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yeah and i think this the joshua seen I
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think it's the same when Joshua first
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calls him back and that i believe is the
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first instance of what i would consider
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it to be like the the theme music for
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war games when Joshua calls about that I
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start playing that creepy war games
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music which I can't
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and now that I think of it I can't like
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playback in my head but as soon as I
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hear like oh that's the war games music
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that's the dramatic more games music and
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it runs throughout the rest of the film
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or less is kind of a theme but it's
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going to take that long in the movie for
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that music to come in we get take us to
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DEFCON 3 so def con i think is not
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something anybody knew of before this
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this is where it comes from and of
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course any any true wargames nerd will
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know that def con five is the best kind
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of Def Con and def con one is world war
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three and people get that wrong all the
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time but if you see more games you know
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but anyway they take us to DEFCON 3
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because they're a little worried and
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they make up the big sign that they can
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we just talk about the room the room
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that's in yeah def con side I hope they
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don't make a6 defcon because they only
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they bought the sign with the five there
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is their
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lightboxes it always expanded its the
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NORAD control room it's like
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NORAD control room it's like
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it's like the apollo mission control
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room at NORAD right but but that is that
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is a massive set that is a huge set that
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must have been like the biggest
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soundstage they could find and I was
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shocked watching this movie again it how
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big and impressive that room is you
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would think call it was probably you
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know compare compared to modern movies
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surely it's not gonna be but modern
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movies always put all the screens and
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everything like a small cramped space
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and that set where so much of this movie
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takes place is still impressive to this
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day as a practical effect and everything
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they do with that set with the lights
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out later and and the mood and how you
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can have people running around and how
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much stuff you can shoot on that you can
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see they dumped all their money into
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that set and it was money well spent i
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think totally holds up even though it's
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ridiculous obviously but i think it
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works like the mission control sets in
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apollo 13 but it's so much bigger it's
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just huge it's like the football field
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practical and they got all those well
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IMA to blow up the world it takes a lot
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of people so and they got those screens
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i guess they must have front projection
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I'm trying to figure out how they even
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did those because those those are I mean
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I'm assuming that's all in camera and if
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you were in that room it would those
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graphics would be on those giant screens
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that must have been a bunch of movie
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projectors and then the graphics had
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that like i said i have it straight like
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like a victory kind of look which is it
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actually has the I I assume it's even
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the same people who built those graphics
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did the graphics in max headroom a few
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years later maybe any maybe there was
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similar to the hitchhiker's guide to the
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galaxy TV series it's it's it's this
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interesting style of the time to have
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something that didn't look like they're
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trying to envision computer output that
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wasn't just you know little dots on a
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screen that go boom as they come out
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like he asked me aren't ya
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well but that without that I thought I
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thought that was perfectly accurate
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because if you if you're making if
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you're making it for the technology that
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time if you wanted smooth lines from
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puts both graphs for point A to point B
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that means i can scale up and scale down
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you couldn't do these big rasters things
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you really did have to do he really did
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have to do these vectors style stuff it
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and actually and I were in in in college
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in college and high school even I was
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seeing displays that were just like that
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only only they're just green phosphor
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but yeah we are now at DEFCON 2 by the
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way things and I just want to let
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everybody
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that I've said it yet and I have to
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think like all all the graphics that
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appear a appear on that screen those
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graphics define athletically speaking
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nuclear Armageddon for me because I see
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in my head the lines coming down the
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circles expanding out the circle is
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expanding at an overlapping the repeated
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lines the arcs from over the poles and
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everything like that is just burned in
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my brain is like when you envision world
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war three I just see the I see the light
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of the vector lines the electron what's
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supposed to be the electron beam
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sweeping over the poles from Russia the
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lines coming down the circles covering
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the map that I know with a bunch of
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circles and the same thing going to
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reverse direction and the subs and the
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way they move the cameras around on on
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those screens and showing it i don't i
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don't think it's been equal buying other
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movie trying to convey basically they're
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focusing the camera on screens screens
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showing visualizations and now we have
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such amazing visualizations with these
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amazing 3d graphics and they show us
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sweeping through a building and here's
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where we're going to infiltrate in block
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that I find like it doesn't read as well
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as this does this is so simple so
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straightforward and and so-and-so effect
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it's because it's abstract that it's
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chilling yes exactly and it's not like
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they don't
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we're not it's clear at least I don't
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think we're supposed to be impressed by
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the graphics were not like wow look at
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these visualizations we are saddened and
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frightened by what the graphics
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represent right and that scene is
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chillin where they get the three guys on
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the line who are going to be the first
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ones to blow up and uh and every i think
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it's it's a little bit it's referencing
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failsafe because it's the same kind of
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thing and failsafe where they're they're
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listening and when the phone you know
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put up the high pitch tone it means
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there was a nuclear blast and and and
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you see those lines come in and you see
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those circles and then you hear the guys
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grew up we're still here and there but
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it is a really i mean affecting and
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creepy seen the pause before they shout
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that's where Barry Corbin absolutely
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earned all of his money
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I I every time I think about individual
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lines and individuals seen performances
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they're all Barry Corbin from that part
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of the movie between him being the
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general general who in a lesser movie
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would be excited about nuclear workers
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this way it's been training for would-be
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was now planning it would be playing it
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really as know this is the worst case
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scenario i don't want this to be
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happening and also just the the tension
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in his voice which he he is the he has
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to be that guy who tells these very
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junior green people who might be dying
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in about 10 seconds to say i'm going to
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give you some instructions i'm going to
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give you the context for those
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instructions i'm going to convey to you
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how important it is that you could be a
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you press that you follow these
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instructions and do exactly i'm going to
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stand by and I'm going to be with you as
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you do this but here's the situation
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we're in and mad that was just pitch
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perfect
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this is also around the point the movie
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where the after hanging up the computer
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really really really wants to talk to
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Matthew Broderick so it keeps calling
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him back and then he gets picked up at
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7-eleven boy kids just your computer
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hacker don't go to 7-eleven and that's
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where they get you
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uh-huh and and and then if only we had
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some rollerblades and I know just get
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out of there
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uh-huh and where you could like run lola
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run would be the other way to go and uh
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and so that what does that leave us that
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he gets taken to NORAD and there he gets
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interrogated this as if he's going to be
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a Soviet spy well interrogate likey he'd
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be waterboarded in 10 minutes of modern
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country like it was like immediately
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torture and the worst they do is they
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have Dabney Coleman give him a stern
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talking-to leaving the longer run with
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the computer so can we talk about Dabney
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Coleman for a minute i just wanted to
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say I I'll i find this such an odd
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choice and maybe it's because thinking
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of all the other parts of the Dabney
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Coleman you know sitcom actor in many
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cases as played over the years it's like
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he's the he's the kind of genius
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well turns out he's not the genius he's
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like the business guy who's been left to
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monitor the invention of the genius
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it is the more stable genius he's that I
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get the feeling that they were partners
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they were to scientific partners and he
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was the more kind of like
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business-minded socially acceptable me
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the other one is the more eccentric and
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Accenture one got pushed out leaving the
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other to plow forward that there were a
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lot of like white shirt engineers you
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know if you look at the people working
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on Apollo you don't see hippie types of
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x large you see people in nice little
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like short sleeve shirts and ties
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McKittrick was that kind of it
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gineer where the pocket the the reason
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why he has a pocket protectors because
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yeah he's not wearing his like acid is
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tie-dye t-shirt he's wearing an actual
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like nice shirts that would've been
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advertised in esquire he wants to
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protect his pocket
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well you gotta depends leak I think
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Dabney Coleman it's just it's just funny
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forgiven i think maybe it's just that he
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got he got more typecast as he went but
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character I mean he made this right
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after he made tipsy right i mean he's
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not the character I expect to see here
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and in this in this party is a different
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kind of actor to be steady senior well
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and at the time he was not really a
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sitcom or comedy person either you know
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to see was the the thing that was like
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why is Dabney Coleman in this movie huh
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and you know well I don't 925 all of us
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were all of a sudden you had nine to
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five you had to see and they needed
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Buffalo Bill and then suddenly he was
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yeah it's just a and I don't know who i
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would i would have I just I I just
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thought it was really interesting i'm
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not saying that it's bad yes that was
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precedes the 925 and then and then pussy
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and then he did this I thought he works
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as a he works as a stern father figure
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who you buy is being intelligent to eat
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I I felt like he also would could have
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done more in this movie he wasn't given
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what he was given to do he did well and
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I fell I mean he got like second
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building i think in the movie and I
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guess it's just you know because it
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because of his stature but it's like all
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the scenes he was in he was good he
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fulfilled his role but like no I think
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it's looking back on his career with
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hindsight that it seems more surprising
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and I think it's a good performance but
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it's funny because I put Dabney Coleman
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in this different box and then I see him
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here i'm like right Danny Coleman
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because who it just you know it see he's
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not he didn't get picked out of a pile
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of actors and i would expect you pick
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this character out of and I like it
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well well here that that's the time we
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need to talk about McKittrick Demi
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Coleman's assistant there's one scene in
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this movie that had me laughing out loud
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that i did not remember that I cannot
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believe it even in the movie does anyone
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know we're gonna be talking about i
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won't spoil it but I I think we're
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talking about the same one stop
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it's a simulation simulation no not that
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not that one of talking about Dabney
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Coleman at one point is helpful lady
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helper personal assistant who is
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inexplicably in many many more scenes
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than it seems like she should be given
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her big job description
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she's talking to him about some urgent
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issue that he's gotta handle whatever
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he's going to meet with somebody
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he's chewing gum he takes the gum out of
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his mouth
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Oh hands it to his his helper assistant
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person who then they are at a she is now
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his gum receptacle she's basically like
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you are so open with me that when i'm
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done chewing my gum rather than sticking
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it under the table i'm going to hand it
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to you that's how far beneath me you are
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in all stations like and then she takes
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it and gleefully puts it into her own
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mouth and choose it
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what is going on there like I i got i
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got ok I got it I got a different i got
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such a different breed from that seen
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that when you have two people who are
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working together that as a sort of like
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Leo McGarry and what was his name his
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assistant in the West Wing where they've
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had this working relationship so you're
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right right that he would realize that
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well look I've got come on the mouth i
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get rid of it i can't stop get spit on
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the floor was gonna come people up so of
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course he's crazy spin around and she's
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gonna say okay freaking that works if
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she says give me if she says give me
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like that's what Nancy would do all that
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that there they've got such an effective
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working relationship therapy on works
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now that's right so why does the
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Kobayashi put in your mouth like come on
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free gum unless you got me hot like nine
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dollars apiece
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waste not want not she's she's keeping
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it moist for him
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John the weird that is not the weird
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scene we are talking about the gum right
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weird seen the words it
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yeah the weird seen the that struck me
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is when they lock a lock
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matthew broderick in the medical ward
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because it doesn't have a computer
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before and leave him alone before they
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take away because when you've got a
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Russian spy you lock him up and leave
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him alone and then you leave a guard
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there but he's gonna put the moves on a
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nurse and this is the one I wrote down
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my notes is sexual harassment to the
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yeah yeah it's off-screen rape because
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it just leaves the okapi keeps getting
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more and more aggressive and then we
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just leave the scene and we just assumed
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that the poor woman was raped because
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just white gloves it's more of humans
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being unreliable because the computer
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wouldn't put the moves on a nurse
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obviously you haven't seen a movie
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called electric dreams son if you get a
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closer and closer
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wow that takes me back and and she's
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like hey it looks like you're going to
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quite a tennis player and she her
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reaction is like oh stop it
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hehe like she tries to like all the
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women in this movie feel like they have
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to get the gender roles like I don't
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know if they're trying to make it seem
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like this woman was I just I i can't i
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can't watch the scenes I don't
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understand how we thought this was
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acceptable like this is not played for
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dramatic effects but the point is I've
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seen is that he is distracted he could
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have been distracted by a laser spot on
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the wall doesn't matter and a blonde
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secretary is the spot on the wall like
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that it doesn't matter to the plywood
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never use cats is your secret service in
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there less reliable but like just those
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scenes are just just so painful that
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these things like the women in NORAD
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basically fulfill the roles of like
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service animals like they're not there
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they're not in positions of their all
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chewing other people's go
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I mean it'sit's of its time and it is
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less is less offensive than any other
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movies that are of its time but like
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these are such incidental things but
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it's like it even in the incidentals
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like ooh do you have to there was ok so
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we watched we watched a Ghostbusters a
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couple days after after watch this movie
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and you know Peter Venkman is putting
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the moves on on Dana Barrett and all
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that and and he's meant to be kind of a
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creep in a way but that but Dana you
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know tell them off more I mean she falls
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for later it is quite right so so that I
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comparing that seems this scene where
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it's I mean it is just meant to be a
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distraction but it's it's so bad on all
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the levels that it just it was like
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really kind of gross and and again I was
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like boy thank goodness that guys out
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there sexually harassing that nurse so
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that man can escape into the vents
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yay well well thank goodness everything
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thank goodness everything in this movie
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makes noise because then he's able to
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record the codon at a pre audio tape
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recorder if the things if everything
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didn't make noise that wouldn't have
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the good thing though is that this is
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also the NORAD aah quarters that nor
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headquarters that has the unique
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irregular but regular school bus tour
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that in the newscast like when he does
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the simulation Botox over the garbage
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can and then the next night on the news
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like NORAD wouldn't tell the news that
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they almost had to like the whole point
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of north and then you're like later when
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you see by stories like oh I guess NORAD
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is like come on in and see our secret
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transparent your head out before we got
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free 11 bit one second though there was
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a so there's a line from but when I
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thought you're talking about McKettrick
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system i thought you talked with an
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embassy one who the first one who like
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like five minutes after the rest of
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North realize that all this isn't this
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isn't really a nuclear nuclear first
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strike from Russia it's just simulation
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is that never she keeps running in with
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this long strip of green bar proud dad
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stop it doesn't nation it's not alone
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you can say Jewish it's ok I i will say
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never again I I don't see a religion i
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feel that we're all children of the same
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God who was the father of Jesus Christ
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anyway it's a there's a there's a
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beautiful line and in this movie that i
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think is so instructive in good
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storytelling in which if you know
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anything about if you if you know even
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nothing about how government
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installations work you figure that
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how is it possible for anyone just a
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dial in on an outside line and get
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access to the computer that launches
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nuclear missiles and there's this and
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all that has that has to happen is for
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this one never actually guy to say one
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line which is the phone company screwed
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up and all phone company we all hate the
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phone company to we are our whatever
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curious we had is now completely
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satisfied and i love the fact that in an
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earlier draft her someone who isn't as
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good as screenwriter they would have
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come up with this big complicated all
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they they pulled out there's a
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maintenance cycle that was happening
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they pulled one back and this shot with
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this other technician accidentally hooks
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up this thing to the other thing
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no no no need to do that one line
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handles it there's an interview there is
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a podcast interview with the writers of
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lost that entered that explain this term
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that i absolutely love they refer to it
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as hang a lantern on it where if there's
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something that he needs to happen for
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the plot but it's technically absolutely
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impossible
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they're talking about some seen in Los
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in which a radio signal had be coming
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from underwater that they're
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triangulating it was happening
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underwater and they're in the writers
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room for lost they actually spent just
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hours and hours coming up with a
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technical explanation for why this radio
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signals coming out there before they
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just collectively slap themselves in the
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face and just simply type I i know
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that's impossible but I'm telling you
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that's what happening line of dialogue
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done move on
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beautiful that's that's why the
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enterprise has a transporter instead of
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always taking the shuttlecraft down just
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like that shortcut do it also also if
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you run out of money and you don't feel
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like you can't get any more aliens in
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and you really want to be able to just
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rent some standard Western costumes you
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can simply say oh the transporter is
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malfunctioning and war from the rest of
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the main cast are stuck in the wild wild
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west also by the way here's a tip if you
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are somewhere in Colorado and you don't
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have any money and you need to make a
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phone call
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find a little tab from a soda can have
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to explain that to my children to ya
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oh and you can you can do some phone
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hacking things so this is that one of
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they're making reference to the you know
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phone-hacking exploits of people in the
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seventies and he calls ally sheedy
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there were no databases because she
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literally like calls at the airline and
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says can you can't leave a plane ticket
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for my friend tattoo
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he's landed at the airport because
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they're not they don't they don't know
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he's there they can't triangulate the
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database he doesn't need any ID she can
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put it amazing just do you feel like
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there's so many things that nobody
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understands all under the age of 25 this
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movie trip they just like sort of
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remaster this so it's in black and white
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and black bet super super fast walking
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around that didn't deter well he's
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enough he's in a phone booth is in a
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phone booth who knows what a phone booth
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is I remember seeing this is a kid being
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excited by the ability to get free calls
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because that was an exciting thing that
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was a kid to be able to use in a phone
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without paying
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but i remember we're not even when I was
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young watching this movie I said those
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phone handset things are so hard to
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unscrew the
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no way by bang like that was the
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unrealistic think we're not touching it
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the little thing with the with the soda
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pop top it was the fact that he was able
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to unscrew because i had tried that many
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times and they're really hard before the
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movie I'd rather because you know why
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wouldn't you may be sure they will also
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also they had a much simpler solution
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which again any kid of that time would
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know if you just sort of check the check
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the the coin return there is a good
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chance it's going to be a dime in there
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they checked it a check the movie hasn't
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returned
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yeah everybody else that's the move
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that's what you do when you're a kid and
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you have no money you check all the coin
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returns but you're gonna make all are
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not exactly that is that is that used to
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know gotye table but don't want to into
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there was a soda machine the next to the
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fire station that was broken in such a
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way that it would district was
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discharged a quarter like after was do
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or something and it was always good for
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least three-quarters finest memory of my
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life free sodas at the shakey's near my
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house somebody drilled a hole in a
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quarter and run a fishing line through
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it and the space where arcade game there
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had horizontal slots rather than
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vertical and so he just ran the quarter
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up and down a couple hundred times and
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we played all weekend i tried that so
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many times with video games machines and
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it never worked
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I always lost the thing string broke
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because you see it you see you see in
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the water brothers cartoon it should
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another anachronistic things move
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courses all the people smoking but it
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was kind of hilarious like it in a way
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that they were almost aware of how this
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movie would be viewed in the future that
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they have five people smoking cigarettes
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and doors not a big deal
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find that the big general guy has a
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giant cigar of course the general guys
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the guard is allowed it going to say but
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then later the movie when he pulls the
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chewing tobacco it's like okay now
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you're just gonna you're just showing
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off like I'm done with the cigar i'm
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going with the cigarette give me my bag
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and shoe
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yeah yeah although that was very that
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was a very character thing to it's
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looking like he's like alright i guess
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the world's gonna end I'm gonna get the
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to win here and we're gonna do this
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thing picked the wrong week to stop
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sniffing glue
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I was just going to say that that is
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that is one of that is one of my clear
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memories of shots from this movie when
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they went whopper starts locking leave
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the regular personnel out and McKittrick
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is like just leaning over the keyboard
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look but dragons just the cigarette
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dangling from his love for his moustache
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blank expression on his face
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how do people act without cigarettes now
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there's so many actors who learned how
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to act so I got to have this in my hand
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I've gotta know how to puff on this
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thing you gotta have something to play
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yeah now it's just based baseball bats
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they just carry around baseball bats
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where the general calls the alaska-based
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to scramble to f6 teens and then they
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immediately cut to stock footage of 215
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like if you're gonna get stock footage
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you have the script you're not flying
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these plans get stock footage of the 16
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they existed because young siracusa had
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snapped together ravel model hanging
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from the ceiling of his bedroom
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god damn it he knew what those look like
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maybe I did okay so she could you don't
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have the patience to put together the
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Millennium Falcon monogram model do I
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don't have money for that
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there you go paper route John paper
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didn't so we we have reached we at long
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last at long last we have reached a
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professor Falcons island where Stuart
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pterodactyls fly in the air and that's
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still awesome that real flying thing
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that steers with the head i want that
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now where's that now it really is my son
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my son saw that he was like oh that's
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what is this what happened is the wrong
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movie what's going on what did I hit my
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head what's happened there that work the
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greatest like a non sequitur like you're
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in this movie about computers and they
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show a pterodactyl and they linger on it
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and you're like that's a pterodactyl I
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know what a pterodactyl looks like
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that's a pterodactyl and then we and
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then we meet professor Falken and turns
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out that he is obsessed with dinosaurs
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and is convinced that humans are going
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to be extinct just like dinosaurs
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yeah he is a big downer don't go don't
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go to present focus cabins and someday
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you may have a child and watch him die
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impression that professor Falken is
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actually like jeff goldblum characters
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from driving park because yes because
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nature nature will blow bubbles will
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start all over again prop prop probably
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probably with the bees this time now
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he's much more distinguished and just go
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with my love whatever whoever this actor
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is I don't even know if I've seen maybe
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he does such a good job as falken to
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being kind of eccentric and these get
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the accent he's even when he's being
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crazy and fatalistic you know it totally
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totally believable in this role but
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always always liked distinguishing you
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kind of like I accept his craziness by I
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accept that he's this is the way he is
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and it's okay for him to be that way i
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don't think i've seen this actor
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anything else but he's he's great i was
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noticing that watching this but he's
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really great in this I mean he's a donor
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and all that but he's a you know Vulcan
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is this mysterious figure that's
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happening we know and then we think he's
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dead and all that then we finally meet
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him and it kinda it pays off
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he he pays off absolutely and he gets
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the one good comedy line in this movie I
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thought where he meets up with his old
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partner and says I see your wife still
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picture ties which I didn't remember
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that why you're a kid but like it he
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does it in kind of the dry British way
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is like that that's his disarming way to
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meet an old friend hadn't seen in many
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yeah he's a he's been a lot more working
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in Britain and originated a lot of roles
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in tom stoppard plays in the seventies
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so you know if this were a movie in
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England that would be the name like oh
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my god John Wood whereas over here that
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I think that might be the most famous
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thing is done over here
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yeah that's I I'm again this is really a
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downer and and he says will were close
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to a target so will be spared the
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horrors of survival will just be
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vaporized it will be a problem which is
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really nice to say to the two you know
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teenagers who were falling in love who
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are visiting you on your little island
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that you've got is all that that was a
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meme in my childhood that the whole idea
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that you wanted to be close to an
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important target and I'm sure didn't
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start with this movie but it was like it
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parents that we don't have to worry
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about anything because we were so close
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to new york city would be vaporized
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well I remember I so so so watching this
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one of the things that struck me was
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that the true there's a line of dialogue
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that I felt was the true Cold War
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view the true like this is what it was
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like living through the cold cold war
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which is when i think is an ally sheedy
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says i wish i didn't know like everyone
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else we don't just die thats its Matt
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Matthew Broderick i wish i didn't know
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that it's matthew broderick right i just
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wish i didn't know like everyone else I
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i wish i didn't know we all just die
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tomorrow right it's like that's that's
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it how fatalistic this is we you know I
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don't want the knowledge that the world
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is going to end
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I just wanted to end it will be over and
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I won't have to worry about it
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wow yeah that was real folks because
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like you kind of you know made this
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happen so yeah
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also it is yeah it is this where we add
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their defqon.1 now people we are at
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DEFCON 1 this is where Barry Corbin puts
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in his to in tobacco because it's
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serious business
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I know there's a rule saying that you
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can't spit on the floor north but screw
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it we're all gonna die anyway
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rules are for lesser men event another
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you know no one's got a tourist as well
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and also falken can take his helicopter
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into no red like I would imagine a
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helicopter flying towards north would be
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something that they were dead to say oh
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I also a lie i also i also would have I
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also would imagine that somebody would
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have phoned ahead and said hi
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yeah I you know that I'm in the
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helicopter don't shoot it down
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yeah I'm hey I'm heading in and given
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that I'm probably the only person one of
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only two people here the only person who
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can actually legally buy liquor who can
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who can fix this problem perhaps you
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should let me land had been like the
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obligatory cards because that's
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something i could do in the eighties
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they could have car chases they were
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good at that you added to have stunt
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drivers drive really fast and like it's
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just a race against time it's not even a
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car chase it's just a little guy the guy
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crashes through the gate you know they
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gotta roll the Jeep they just got here
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and that's their minutes what they're
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made to do and it almost doesn't fit in
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this movie where that doesn't have many
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other scenes like that but it'sit's for
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the purpose of the dramatic effect of
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getting through the comically huge door
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and said pays off the the door closing
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bird earlier in the move backwards yeah
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are on the movie they show that same
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huge door closing people are squeezing
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through at the last second it's like
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wait your turn like it's not worth your
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guess I need more gum we pancaked
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another employee can say where that came
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from work
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where we're going we got there we got
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the Ronald Reagan defense budget we can
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always get more army guys John didn't
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come into work today well half of him
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really we're only talking you have for
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half of you for being late
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there's a scene they cut out where Han
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Solo last three people where Luke is the
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door closed walk us through how you're
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feeling right now because it's getting
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full well well let's bring out your
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headliner Goodwin Greg good I'll spice
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that into the first Rick's back episode
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i would i would have gone with the scene
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where Chewbacca yells after the door
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closes or something to that effect yeah
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right there you go
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I know what your favorite Star Wars
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movies so you're forgiven yeah what else
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we have in here we have your you're
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listening to a machine
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don't act like one right that don't be
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don't be like the machine you got the
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whopper sound the one-percenters very
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good you should put that on a loop in
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your house just for food and they like
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that but they do the cameras that you
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know slide the camera around the little
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engine light areas like everyone can you
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really show you want to show that the
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whopper is this ominous presence type
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thing and so you've got the noise and
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you've got the camera panning over the
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big whopper set piece is there a
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Saturday Night Live sketch where they
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cut to the whopper and it's a giant
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hamburger
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I believe that's a real a real smoke it
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if this was a modern movie they would be
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burning product placement guaranteed i
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think there would have been many seasons
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of sentient life or that would have been
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a good 1152 p.m. joke
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yup yup but isn't it one thing one thing
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that called attention to me that it
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really looked like 1958 1965 like
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cabinet design did that with because it
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had those really smooth corners to it it
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was painted in that sort of
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institutional green even the computers
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around it looked a lot newer than
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whopper
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yeah it had well it looked it look I
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think the other ones were either based
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on real designs are were real designs of
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actual things whereas whopper was wholly
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constructed by Hollywood so it kind of
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makes sense that when they
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instructed that they don't know what
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real computers look like they just wanna
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make something that really something
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that reads as that blinky lights it's
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big i did I don't think the condition of
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the blinky lights they had that one
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section of like it make a matrix LED
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that was flipping through sine waves
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I thought that was pretty boss oh yeah
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count counting down the days till the
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end of the world just to let you know if
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you if you were looking at the hardware
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it would say by the way still counting
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down to the end of the world you see it
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you guys the engineers that can have to
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feel like pretty minus x that say why
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did we bother putting these lights in if
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no one is ever going to look at them
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that's just that just that just do
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values me as a worker it really
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negatively impact my sense of
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empowerment in this organization there's
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a nice i I like to fake out here where
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where it turns out that everybody's safe
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and it's all it's all okay and then and
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then ok work we win everything's good
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back slaps tell the president were okay
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and then there's the oh no we're not
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mr. McKittrick it is my it's my
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considered opinion that you're with your
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missile program sucks sucks
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is this the first movie where they did
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the thing where you guess the password
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and tells you each time you got a
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single-digit right because that is that
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is definitely a mean like that that what
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you heard from 1983 and continues to
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this day and it makes so little sense on
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any level to like like like common sense
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not technical just think of common sense
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how many choices are there for each
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position how many times if it's going to
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tell you when you get any of those
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positions right like yeah it doesn't it
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doesn't make it i mean it makes for a
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good dramatic dramatically
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yeah right it makes for good drama and I
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can't remember movie before this they
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did it so this may be where that came
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from and again as a kid it didn't bother
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me in the least because I was dumb but
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ok you know because also was an exciting
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movie that that's the point at which
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it's working for you so you don't really
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think about that twice right it's a more
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exciting countdown than actual countdown
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right yeah and even this time like it
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didn't dollar baby I do get caught up
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like this this amazing said that they
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built I really think this is the star of
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the movie production was this amazing
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said that they built it's like the end
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of a rock show where like they don't go
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to the climax
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and they they use all the fancy lights
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on this end you know I can be anything
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to show you that we can do this kind of
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lighting scenario we can do that one but
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like in the big climax they do all the
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lights on this big climax the computer
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as they do in movies causes everything
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to blow up with sparks because that's
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what computers do we all know that but
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that means basically the lights are off
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on the set and once lights are off on
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the set now it's basically time for a
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laser light show because then the
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screens are even more dramatic and
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reflecting light on the people spaces
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which again real screens don't do but i
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think these projection screens probably
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actually did project these huge lights
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back on their faces and it is a laser
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light show of Joshua learning with the
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with that you know if they're RGB
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screens it's basically you got white
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hundred percent read hundreds and green
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hundred percent blue you know and these
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flashing lights everything get
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everything in camera it's like the
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culmination of a rock show in terms of
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effect size i think it still works also
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is it such that is if if if there was a
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more effective way for them for the
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filmmaker to communicate that the humans
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have absolutely no influence on what
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happens next
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either either everybody dies in about
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five minutes or it's been fixed
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we don't know yet and and on a more
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personal note ever since that movie I've
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been hoping for a screensaver especially
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with HD tvs that would do nothing but
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run through all of those wargames
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whopper scenarios except like Iceland
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I've got the list in front of me where
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it's just hong kong jarencio
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decapitating Cuban provocation
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inadvertent landing heavy human
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paramilitary Nicaraguan pre-emptive
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Pacific territorial Burmese theater wide
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search detour
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it's like I want to see and I want to
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see the the maps go and i want to see
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inbounds I want to see the sea winner
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none none none none none
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yeah i would just I would buy a TV
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exactly for that with all those cool
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names of the love the different
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strategies to which i always like to
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like to see Warsaw Pact isolated
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incident English escalations I your
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screen middle EA Mexican takeover Chad
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alert that Saudi maneuver African
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territorial you hoping clearly canadian
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parentheses obstructed by our earlier
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that is my favorite guy in the entire
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movie when they know what they figure
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out to make a play tic-tac-toe and acai
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from the back who gets a speaking part
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of the movie is understanding
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square-like know if he's got the key
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he's got the key to take back those
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strategies like no I know this game
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trust me but
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it's in the center square somebody
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somebody got you someone got Screen
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Actors Guild eq health coverage based on
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kid I guys stupid guess you didn't
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expect that guy's really done speaking
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part tho you gotta do you gotta love it
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and like at the part where like how
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gonna get it to play itself but number
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of players 0 that's probably how program
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yeah fuckin nose he wrote it
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that's fine what I'll say is strange
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game the only winning move is not to
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play I noticed this time that the words
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on the screen say a strange game but the
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the audio i guess because I wasn't
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reading the screen at that point I was
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listening to what Joshua would say but
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yeah but it's a different reading the
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also interesting that it's this it's the
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same voice that that even when i start
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for the first time that guy stumbled
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over that a little bit i didn't dislike
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that but it's like oh ok that's a
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commercial product you can buy it from
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the magazine he was reading and and same
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Center just yet
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they say the same same page in the digit
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keys catalog for the right to IC
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component sure it's just it's the same
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reason why our announcer on the
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incomparable is the same announcer you
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here in better happier by radiohead
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let's say you know it's just it's
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available
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it's commercially available product yeah
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get some he gets around that robot guy
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and this movie can't resist one of the
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greatest eighties end of movie means
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which is when the movie ends and in a
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celebratory happy manner
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someone has to throw papers and even
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though in this movie doesn't make any
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sense in context because there really is
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not a lot of paperwork going on in the
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war room
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somebody throws papers if you wait past
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the credits Matthew Broderick is in the
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shower and tells you to go home that
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you're still here but let's also it in
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terms of like great like tiny tiny
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little cameos in that in that room I
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love the shot of the the sergeant who
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all you see is like her mouth and the
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other little like headset mic 321 impact
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impact our lips are the star that senior
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getting outside
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exactly it's like yeah
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yeah it's in somewhere there's got to be
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like it is it some office like at least
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through 1986 there was a pile of
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videotapes and nothing but auditions of
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close-ups of actresses little wearing
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blue microphones and they picked the
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best one out of seven hundred because
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that was just good casting and her
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booming voice I don't even know if
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that's her be like the voice amplified
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with reverb on that huge room like
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totally totally works and like the like
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many eighties movies there's no Dana
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Montu this movie like it ends with a guy
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throwing papers in the air and then they
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were all command it's like it like it
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they don't want to tell you what
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happened to David did he ever get
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arrested did he go on to like get a
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modern movie I feel like would have to
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show you what happened invisible by
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Congress parents happy do we see ahead
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seen with him without like she does he
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does he become an apprentice stuff that
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she'd become an apprentice to fuck in
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the Iran corn would be no it would be it
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would be truthful will be fade fade to
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black fade up six months later in which
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there's like they're meeting a coffee
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shop say well that's too bad that that
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the that Joshua program had to be
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completely deleted yes but it was for
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the safety of the country and then like
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he picks it pulls out a phone and which
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you Joshua call mom tell her i'm going
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to be 15 minutes late
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alright professor Matthew Broderick many
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ways of the camera execu- he might as
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well but it was its abrupt but like as a
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kid that's where the movie ended and
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that we have really happened as an adult
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seen modern movies I'm like oh I guess
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the credits come now you're right Kyra I
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guess you're right there is nothing
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after that and what do you like I guess
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even in star wars they gave the guys
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metals like there was a there was a wine
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down you know doesn't end with a start
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blowing up and the credits roll but it's
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not like sneakers yeah right it's like I
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think the best analog isn't sneakers you
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know where there has to be that scene in
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which the government finally catches up
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with the these these white hat hackers
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who have actually saved you know the
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country from this thing and that has to
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be the medal ceremony which look but the
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james earl jones has to say
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now we can't let any of this go to get
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out and so if you it was a lot of what
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we get out of it like well what do you
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and because all i want is that sexy
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asians phone number of a river phoenix
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that that character time to talk about
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sex with
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and then her reaction is wait a minute
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you can have the government will give
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you anything you wanted all you want is
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my phone number
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suspiciously yes 4158 1221 to eat
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anybody ever call that i'm sure a lot of
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people called it it was a real number
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but I never called it
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no I'm sure I just told you to
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advertisement yes he's been saying hello
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sad person remember to drink your
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ovaltine welcome to movie line and you
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you say that the the movie just ends
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right there but no week at the we get
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the melancholy harmonica
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yeah let's think about what we learned
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that's right you should think about what
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you learned and slow pullout right let's
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local back but like I i think that the
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gold standard of the of the scene that
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was not in this movie would be you know
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the the Ark of the Covenant is in the
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crate being driven slowly into the matte
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painting
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yeah because that's that it has the same
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effect is the sad harmonica music but it
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is separate scene because that's what
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they want you to know is like you know
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yeah evil still exists in the form of
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the giant faceless government and
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incompetent still exist in India will
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need to continue to fight the good fight
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and you know so-and-so brother the world
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didn't end today what about tomorrow
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people eat our lesson well let us not
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have died in vain the monsters were
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already on Maple Street I like the I
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like that kind of melancholy tone that
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because i feel that way on the you get
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that win when they're on the island and
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you see the pterodactyl it's the same
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thing it's like this weird tonal shift
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but I kind of like it because it's kind
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of like where are we now and we're kind
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of it's kind of sad and it is like we're
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back at the end of the world kinda like
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that and it but it is strange that the
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end of stuff like to do we win yay
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everybody go out of a movie being really
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happy we didn't blow up the world
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instead it's like think about it with
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this sad harmonica like this is the kind
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of like a peacenik eighties movie and I
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don't know that if they make your movies
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like these days but every time I try to
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think of a movie involving war military
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it's just always so like especially
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movie that has a happy ending and a hero
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who overcomes odds is always so sort of
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aggressive and militaristic and
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jingoistic where it's like even like
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Independence Day which is kind of like a
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humanity we defeat the aliens like
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everything's got to be the military is
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awesome and we win by killing the other
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guys and killing other guys is good and
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when we are victory would go home and
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have a beer and a BBQ and like that is
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not the tone of this much like these
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movies are always there we could all get
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beat up by today's square-jawed jarhead
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militaristic even the movies they're
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supposed to be about like the futility
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of war like a movie that I haven't seen
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that will greatly comment on my grand
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tradition that movie a lone survivor
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which is supposed to be you know a tale
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of companionship and heroism and
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everything like that but you know the
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the sort of underlying messages you know
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why were they there and it's isn't a
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terrible that were over in Afghanistan
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or wherever they were like this these
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movies were unabashedly like war is bad
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we are Hollywood we're telling you that
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you when they launched missiles as we
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should not launch them back that the
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whole thing is pointless
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you know it's a vibe that I don't have
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don't see a movie if you put a movie out
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today I think people would be like they
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were declared anti-american and yet it's
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funny because in hindsight I in
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hindsight this movie's premises obvious
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right i mean everybody agrees even
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Ronald Reagan said mutually assured
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destruction is a terrible thing and this
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is why we need to reduce the number of
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nuclear weapons and make it i mean right
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i mean it this this is because there was
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a superpower on the other side now
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there's no superpowers like oh well once
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once nuclear annihilation of the table
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yeah kill all the people we don't like
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mm no well with it but this what I'm
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saying is is that this this movie's
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premise that was political is it is
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which I mean how politically come here
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let's not blow up the planet but still
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was political now is like well yeah I
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mean it's validated it's like yeah that
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was a bad idea but back then i get even
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though we said like everyone agreed we
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didn't agree enough to elect Democrats
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too much like we still wanted the crazy
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cowboy to be in charge because because
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fear was enough of a factor it's like we
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all kind of agree that you know nuclear
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Armageddon is bad but let's keep
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collecting the crazy guy seems most
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likely to push the big red button
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because that makes us the people who are
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scared feel safer
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yeah well there's one
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thing is it was it wasn't it was a
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political statement back then it's just
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now we look at it and we say we say yep
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that was really stupid
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let's not all blow each other up but you
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know but that is this is in the grand
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tradition of of Hollywood movies making
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you know that mean as a kid who grew up
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in Star Trek it's like that right it's
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like the star trek episode where it's
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like Star Trek is super was where was
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like the black half black half white guy
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the half white half black guy why can't
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they just get along don't understand
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that those colors in the same just
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reversed right i mean it's in that
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tradition of the you know liberal
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Hollywood movie saying you know we all
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need to get along and peace and love and
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stop nuclear weapons and all that and
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yeah it seems obvious and yet it was
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also kind of controversial so this movie
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has the wherewithal to ignoring the
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women that attends the designers thing
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to make like there's no there's no
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cartoonish militaristic character in the
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movie and it seems like we can't have a
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movie anywhere right it whether even if
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they're the bad guy yes everyone is a
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human i guess there may be with you made
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this point everyone doesn't want the war
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to happen
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he's it like there is no that obviously
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is no God even bury Corbin really mean
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he's like the guy he's he's like Leo
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call the silos stand the missiles down
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yeah he doesn't want to he doesn't want
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to in the world either right yeah and
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and so there is no there is no
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cartoonish there is no proxy for there's
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no proxy for our fear that the military
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will run amok and destroy the world
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because there are you know going to ride
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a bomb down like a cowboy you know I
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mean like there's there's none of that
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doesn't know what everyone in the movie
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it's not cynical at all
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yeah and every every person in the there
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no idiots in this movie that everybody
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is reacting to the events but guy with a
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white gloves so maybe but ok but that's
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it was white gloves you got either that
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guy's got a skin condition or he's got
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he's got a problem and it's everybody
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was reacting exactly the way they should
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be reacting given the information that
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they have at the time that they're
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acting and so at the time when they all
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need to basically get together because
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they were all recognized the severity of
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the problem that's exactly what they do
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and I'm not sure that the that this
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movie were made today it would be that
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front if anything for this kind of a
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movie you can always make a bad movie
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about any issue but i do think that that
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was the the court thing that made war
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games a good movie was the realization
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that sometimes the enemy is not us
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versus them sometimes it really is that
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here is the evolution of a disaster and
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people trying to evade it and also i
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also would say be fair me 1982 1983 if
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you're gonna make a movie about nuclear
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you probably don't have the effects
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budget to actually have the war happen
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you have to do it that they have urgent
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missiles being long you can blow up some
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models yeah they all they all make all
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of all they could afford was a couple of
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like a couple of like fire extinguishers
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like in the opening sequence they just
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sort of fire off these fire
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extinguishers of the bottom of the two
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to make it look like these rocket
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engines were about to fire up or getting
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ready to launch
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yeah they got they got a lot of mileage
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out of that one rocket model they kept
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showing but you know like well they put
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all they put all the money into the
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giant war room and I think it was money
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well spent like if you tried to make the
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movie where it's a war you end up with
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Red Dawn which i think is another good
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example of a movie with the similar
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message and it's like well we can
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actually do nuclear war and that
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actually the interesting but we can get
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people with guns and horses and so let's
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go with that by the way according to an
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old wired magazine story the one of the
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co-writer so this movie was a family
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friend from reagan and they run and they
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screened at the weekend it opened for
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Ronald Reagan crazy had no idea
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yeah that it because the modern
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equivalent i think is the tent for this
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type of movie is they want the the thing
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that is a threat to seem to be outside
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of us and the only way they're give
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responsibility to humans is if it's like
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a science gone awry they were
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experimenting with biological warfare
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and this thing that also zombie movies
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plague movies those type of things it's
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not like we are choosing to go to war
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it's like there is an existential threat
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to humanity that came to be and it's
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like nobody's fault how do we deal with
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war z or you know outbreak 28 days later
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whatever like where it's not there is a
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political decision that made us get into
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the scenarios like well we're in this
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scenario we'll do what we can to get out
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of that I think that's as close as they
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come again you know pics the absence of
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the Soviet Union and
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you know us being the big superpower we
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have to find something else to be a
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threat to our existence
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besides like I guess Bitcoin well any a
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political yea the a political nature of
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this of the story is nobody really
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wanted the world to end right and and so
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by having the soldiers not be villains
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and having it be that the berry Corbin
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doesn't you know is relieved well except
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for that one heading out secretaries
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villain except that guy a white glove
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guy that guy's bad taking it on the chin
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white glove guy with the beret
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oh you gotta be feeling the burn right
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now sir if you're still with us yeah if
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you still have yeah anyway I mean it is
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that I think that is interesting guess
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the computers of the real enemy here
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folks that's the best
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well well well look we we all work with
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computers long enough to know that yes
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the computer is usually any given
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workday the real enemy will bring it
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back around to the beginning isn't the
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inhumanity of the computer that the
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enemy removing the human beings from the
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firing scenario and what saves it is
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Joshua maybe not making moral decision
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but making a human one
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well I think clearly one of the lessons
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here is that that removing people from
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the process is is dangerous that's
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definitely one of the messages here is
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that people people need to be involved
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to not blindly follow orders i mean
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that's that's what saves the world is
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not wrote execution of commands even the
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general does not follow orders and says
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I gotta get some confirmation here right
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he doesn't just push the buttons belief
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elite she smokes inside he's got the
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human element plus yeah well at that
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point sure that that certain that
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certainly shows like the Howard our
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processes put together when you look
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back at it and everything those to
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control operators had to do with the
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start in order to get to the point where
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they had it where they could turn their
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keys the entire process is set up to
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make it more difficult to make it to
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Tobias the system towards not launching
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as opposed to launching where hears
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every point what if these are not done
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in the right order and exactly correctly
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missile does not launch that part of the
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country gets annihilated a nuclear war
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within the real world recently didn't
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they visit for the power they said if
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you cut power in our at all this
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launch that was a bad system bet that's
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not fail safe whether they locked out
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everything but they got the ok think
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that I think that UPS has come on get a
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probably starting to officemax you know
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get one of them $60 the whole idea was
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that they would interpret it as the as
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the Athanor I'd being hit and they would
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carry out their last orders now locked
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in with the incredibly ill-advised
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lockout changes button
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yeah that is that is bad that is bad
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didnt in the real world they recently
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released that some you know thirty forty
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percent of codes over the missile
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buttons were sent to all zeros
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yeah they're all zeros and that was a
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policy decision that was that was where
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they thought it might be too hard to
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launch them so they need to make it
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easier so that they had that those code
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set into all they should just put the
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computers in charge
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yeah well the good the good news is that
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if they got locked down in NORAD they
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could just dig up that Stargate that
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they got down there and said that one up
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and they don't lean on it too much in
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this movie but a lot of idealism if
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that's the word fear of technology that
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is evergreen and they'd to their credit
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or not make that a big theme of this
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movie and dwell on it but so many movies
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before and after are just obsessed with
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the idea that you gotta have a human in
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there and humans are always the best and
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computers are inexplicably evil and it's
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like unless you're gonna have a computer
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that actually has an aif that is scary
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needle but it's just the machine it's
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you know it's just the two lands and
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demonization let's all just take our are
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what he called the are weaving spindles
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and throw into fire in the middle of
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town square and light them up because
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you don't like the double machines
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yeah they knit they did for us that is
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demonic
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if I'd known I would have become a
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watchmaker due to do we have any any
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other thoughts about what about what you
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mean you know about war games before we
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go good flick all just just that the
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only the the only the only major
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unanswered question that i still have is
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man Matthew Broderick could afford a
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bitch and computer setup as parents must
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have a lot of money yeah that's like
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that he was had first viewer money or
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heat your he understood that Oh credit
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card transaction computers are not
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necessary they probably should be
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although that may be although I guess
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again we got to get into a nostalgia
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trip you it's it's possible learned as a
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teenager that if you write a letter to a
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computer company and the in the guise of
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an actual teenager being I'll be damned
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actually honest thing hi I'm 13 years
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old i have i have an interest in your
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product i can't possibly afford one key
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possibly just send me one
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sometimes that actually worked i had i
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had a couple of really good motives
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because I simply wrote a very fanciful
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written letter that was factually
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correct so perhaps he just like wrote a
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letter to ms I saying I have this idea
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that if I just write some machine code
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that simply dials numbers in sequence i
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could make it to all kinds of mischief
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I would love for you to enable this
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behavior by setting me free
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ten-thousand-dollar computer
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yeah LOL SMS i didn't pay for product
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placement because i have a big sticker
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over it true that the bumper sticker
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whatever that I think it's covering up
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the word inside over and over the model
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number on his computer shame I i enjoyed
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watching this movie and I i enjoyed it
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yeah it as a we picked apart but it's
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it's a fun it's a fun movie to watch you
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enjoy it and there's no embarrassing
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parts that like I mean there are parts
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that age but there's no part of your
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like oh I can't believe I've ever like
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this are all that so terrible it is it
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holds up as well as you can imagine any
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movie from that era are holding up in
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terms of still exciting the pacing is
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still good the dialogue there is no
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incredibly embarrassing dialogue some of
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it is witty some of it is interesting
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there hidden meanings that you might not
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have gotten when you're a kid if you
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haven't seen this movie in years i
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recommend giving another watch
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yeah yeah oh yeah i mean both both of
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our kids were just like this is awesome
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and they wanted to watch it again the
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next day and the day after that right
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that's a good sign
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the description of Matthew Broderick you
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know intelligent but underachieving
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bored in school that makes him the
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perfect Soviet recruit that now would
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directly lead him into anonymous or the
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NSA the NSA yeah yeah make a choice or
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do both
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king will be ok yeah all right I think
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we are we have reached the end we have
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played our last game of tic-tac-toe to
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what conclusion I want only because i
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wasn't paying attention
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that's it you should you should you
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should listen to that dumpy guy with a
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one-line he had the right strategy begin
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with that we listened know we made fun
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of them yeah x in the center square
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always always go for Paul in back with
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that's thanks in the center square
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that's the that's the story also will
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have that he'll have the sauce eerie
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joinder totie Fields brazier who no
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doubt it's it's the Warsaw double
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aggression
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oh my alright i'd like to thank my
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guests for this lovely conversation
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about a movie from 1983 movie that is
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not yet old enough for old movie club
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but it's is not exactly contemporary
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after all it's only 30 years old
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yeah that's it that's not it it's
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practically you know it's it's probably
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not even probably on DVD yet it's only
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releases that fits in the new release
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shelf at the video store the closed five
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years together it's it's only on the
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verge of having its own children it's
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alright
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yeah it's okay at least it's at least
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eight years away from falling into the
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public domain exactly this time this
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time for all of that so I'd like to
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thank my guests for discussing a great
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NOS thank you for reliving the eighties
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with any time Jason I had a future then
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get out that old modem do some war
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dialing you'll be back in back in
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business before you know it
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that's that I i enjoyed BBS is when I
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could read faster than the characters
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could appear at that it was a key
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yeah you know his modem picks up speed
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at various points in an unrealistic way
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I think we it's slow at reading pace and
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then it's like well now it uses the same
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dramatic config file that Joshua does
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during the pregnant pauses yes that's
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right now is anything wrong
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David lower thanks for being here oh
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thank you for having this was a lot of
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fun and Enoch oh thank you i think USA
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is going to kick ass the 84 olympics
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all the way LA USA
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yeah I'm with you there one that woman
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didn't tell him and John siracusa I i
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think that real genius is funnier than
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this movie but I i still like this movie
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what do you think like most pretty fast
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Jason stop and look around once in a
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while you might miss it
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mr. Potato Head
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mr. Potato Head & chick but we don't
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need roads I'm telling you Ferris
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Bueller he's got a computer up there
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he's at all coming together i'm gonna
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i'm gonna become famous by posting one
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of those theorists grand unified
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theories like the pixar theory on this
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is already at dr website there it's all
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gonna be Matthew Broderick Matthew
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Broderick is playing the same part in
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every movie ever
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so that means did you see the Indies and
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his ribs and oh god I i would hate to
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think that that's true
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