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the incomparable number 193 may 2014
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welcome back to being comfortable
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podcast I'm your host Jason Snell and
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tonight we're going to discuss some news
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of note something that just happened the
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other day as we record this which is the
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cast of Star Wars Episode 7 was
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announced so this is another installment
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on our run up to the new Star Wars
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movies we did that episode when disney
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bought Star Wars and announced that
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would be an episode 7 where we all just
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sort of were shell-shocked and going
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what this is happening and now we know
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even more about it and I think there's
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some interesting wrinkles to this so i
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thought it was worth spending a little
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bit of time talking about it and also
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this is not a bad week to do a star wars
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episode since that most commercial
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hallmark holiday of for space holidays
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may the fourth is coming up like we're
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posting this episode of me the third so
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made the third be with you anyway here
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are my guests to talk about Star Wars
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things indian taco
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hello hello buddy open your presence
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made the mate of the fourth be the star
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wars day evar star wars day day I like
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to open one on on the evening of me the
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third and then we save the rest of them
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for me the fourth it's just so hard to
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get the kids wound down and get into bed
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after the excitement of opening a
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present that's all good good to know
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good the good point
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I like what you're like what you're
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saying there Dan Morgan is also here
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I you know totally invented may the 4th
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by the dancing queen greeting card
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company and I really couldn't be more
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upset about it totally takes all the all
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the joy and love out of may the 4th yeah
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I decide to be adjacent they keep the
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may Parker in may the 4th that's what I
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say wow
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crossing the streams that's extra
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confusing and all owned by disney
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certain and serenity Caldwell's also out
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there hello hi I'm gonna be sleeping on
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may the 4th because hopefully we'll have
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just wanted roller derby game so may the
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fourth be merry and and sleep filled
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have a Merry maybe for can you celebrate
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me the fourth when you're in canada i
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don't know if that's a thing
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no you can celebrate me the fourth
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early if they celebrated never like
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april twentieth ok
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oh yeah we've already missed it yeah and
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Lisa Schmeisser is here hi Lisa how are
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you'll I know you love casting and so
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two ideas para el that makes it that
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makes this extra exciting
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oh and John syracuse of course we
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wouldn't do an episode without a mobile
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we almost did but he he's here hi john i
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arrived at the appointed time
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yeah that's what you say maybe but maybe
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the third be with you or something like
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ok so episode 7 it's uh it's happening
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we already covered that and now i'm now
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we have cast members so so first off
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we've got as as rumored as suggested
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we've got Harrison Ford Carrie Fisher
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and Mark Hamill all back but they're
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playing each other's roles so it's
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really just kind of an interesting
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exercise that's a mistake don't you
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Harrison Ford as Princess Leia yeah I
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think you'll rock the brain
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yeah alright i agree it's already got
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the earring i remember they're gonna be
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doing and ian mckellen and patrick
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stewart thing where they keep swapping
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roles every other day of shooting just
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keep it alive interesting always in
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mcallen this one because I sort of feel
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like he doesn't have a lock enough
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science fiction franchises ya didn't eat
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there has to be an egot for fantasy
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franchises so that he can he can win
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because at this point he's got the x-men
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he's got that he's got the Lord of the
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Rings thing going on
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yeah why not or you know you could throw
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bonding portion Connery since he penis
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that on the action and was just in the
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league of extraordinary gentlemen I
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think he retired after that wisely
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probably have probably so yeah crying
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big Scottish castle somewhere capital so
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so in addition to those three other
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returning original stars anthony daniels
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because you know 30 Daniels literally
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hasn't done nothing apple this is all he
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does i love you you're great at it
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he's so good and could never have been
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played by anyone else but you it's it's
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hilarious because it's always by anyone
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else I understand that that the guy who
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played miles on Frasier they had to be
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david Hyde Pierce epi
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Jim Parsons would be oh no well what is
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it like Anthony Daniels like laid the
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groundwork for those to have a career
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they should send him a fruit basket
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I'm just saying that I once got like a
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terrible audiobook I think the i want to
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say like the dark Empire comic book and
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Anthony Daniels is playing see-through
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beyond that there were no other cast
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members it but damn he is not gonna let
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somebody else play c-3po it's his
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character he staked it out
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yeah so we lost it with motion capture
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it'll fit back into the suit
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well with that tells you that would have
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been the last limiting factor for oh I'm
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telling you Jim Parsons or or david Hyde
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Pierce so go see Lisa's already fantasy
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casting it's amazing what you know it's
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a superpower Soviet there will be other
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drugs so so also also I let's see who
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also the other continuing Chewbacca
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right Peter may you and and r2d2 Kenny
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Baker because it wouldn't be the same
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and let me finger was inside a
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campaigner shake your most mysterious
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like what at this point what is he doing
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exactly
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yeah nobody can wiggle that suit anybody
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uh-huh he just makes it have such
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personality it's an apple is he gonna is
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there going to be a physical r2d2 onset
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a lot of the time I figured they were
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just cg him entirely
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how dare you never never I'm just going
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on pad on recent history
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I feel like that you have upgrading from
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windows XP but that's all he doesn't
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want in episode 7just spends the entire
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time you know her cheating on windows
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yep he's come on and what you have much
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of a mac is any droid on that is that
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what you want to be running
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yeah you've connected things that should
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never be connected police other that
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they're way too many accessories that
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they didn't have to add onto r2d2 get
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word Apple Design droid you basically
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have to keep that you have to buy that
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probe thing you have to buy the jet pack
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it up to buy the laser important you'd
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be supporting an exciting new democracy
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its commerce and exciting democracy
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because I'm Betty the Empire probably
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had first controls and state-sponsored
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industry and in and in an apple-designed
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r2d2 world you would
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the free market would be glorious have
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you seen a Soviet design TV set
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that's not the height of design and
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function that's all I'm saying so in
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addition to those so let's start there
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let's start before we get into the new
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actors are I wanted to talk about the
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returning actors you know this was all
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sort of speculation when we talked about
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it when disney bought lucasfilm and said
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that would be more star wars movies but
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i'm interested what you guys think about
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the prospect now that it's it's clear
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that you know we're gonna see 30 years
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later we're going to see Han Solo and
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Princess Leia and Luke Skywalker again
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and I'm I'm just you know that's that to
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me seems to be I would actually say a
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bigger deal than like the existence of
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the prequels because now you're not
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going to be able to look at return of
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the jedi and say and that's the last we
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ever solve them and I think that's I
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think that's kind of a big deal i think
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it's a huge deal
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um I realize that this they're also
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nuking all of the continuity that
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they've spent the last 20 years building
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like all the time of these on novels and
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it got that yeah so they killed they
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killed Chewbacca and the Expanded
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Universe and brothers movie so so yeah
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thank you lovey
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so has anyone check on timothy zahn is
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he doing ok you see actually in the
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video and now it's ok alright i'm
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announcing that he or you can call the
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expanding universe though it took is
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nuking it there just telling it out
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there being are being selective but to
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get back to but to get off your cases
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original point on I don't know if I want
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to see these people 30 years later and
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the reason I say that is in my head
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they're all the age that they were when
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i first watched that blew my world open
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and I kind of don't want to see the
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ravages of time and I'm kind of dreading
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it as well and not for the same reason
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though it's not so much that I don't
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want to see them although i understand
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that perspective it's mostly because I'm
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here's what I'm kind of dreading with
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this i'm dreading being in the theater
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and each time one of the returning
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characters comes on the screen a bunch
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of people applaud like I don't want to
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be I don't want to be about them
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I don't want person making the movie to
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leave room for that applause I want to
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see new stories in the same universe and
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maybe they could have cameos but
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I don't I want them to hand the baton
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over i'm not that I'm rooting for Adam
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to divert like I would have been just as
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I would have felt better if they were no
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returning characters not just not
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because I think they're gonna ruin the
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characters anything it's just that I
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feel like the way down the the way down
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this first movie with these with these
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expectations about having to either tie
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off old story lines or continual
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storyline since their their time they
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did their thing there time is over and i
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don't like the tri don't like the trend
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I don't like the trend of nostalgia is
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fanservice though because I feel like
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pop culture has kind of become inundated
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with that its kind of horrifying to open
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up a browser and see 50 articles on the
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10th anniversary of mean girls for
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example it's a movie it happened 10
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years ago I get that a lot of people
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quoted but come on ten years is not that
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long in the great span of things and I
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feel like we as a culture like like to
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ceaselessly dwell on these insignificant
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landmarks or and here's what they're
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doing now or or so on and so forth and
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and I sort i sort of feel like it's I
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sort of feel like this is where its fine
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torture basically this is this these
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three characters with these four
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characters are there to sort of root us
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in this world and refresh us it's not
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gonna be a reboot so much but it's
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saying we're going to pretend though the
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prequels were the peak the prequels
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we're gonna have this continuity of this
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movies that everybody agrees that they
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like and I like I like the impression
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that i get from this that they're going
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to write this like it's a play which is
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the way that really every single movie
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science fiction used to be done where
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there's going to be a beginning a middle
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and an end with a linear storyline it
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would be I would be kind of interested
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if they were making movie set in the
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Expanded Universe but my big worry there
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is there would be like like other
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franchise movies where you feel like
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you're seeing the middle of every movie
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is the middle of a story because they
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want to basically set up the next movie
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with different characters and also pick
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up stuff from a previous movie that you
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didn't see that had a different name
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it's the comic-book model that you're
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talking about whatever Stanley's
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family's famous a prism every comic book
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issue a summons first comic book issue
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every kind of pushes someone's last
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competition but that's the challenge of
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time the story and movies and and and
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movies have begun to pick up that model
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to the right i mean there they've always
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fundamentally been episodes though is
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the thing right like this going back to
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the initial you know pitch by lucas is
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these are you know the serials right
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which were continuing story is back in
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the you know the ones that he was
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harkening back to they were these
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lengthy continuing stories that ran you
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know every weekend granted they were
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shorter you know we're talking like
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20-30 minutes and I cases but you know
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they're what he was telling an ongoing
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series of adventures not i want to stick
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up for the the older cast this point
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because you know well there has been a
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lot of talking and i'm sure we will
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discuss the the issues of the diversity
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or lack thereof among the cast
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I at least want to say hey I can't old
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people have adventures
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I mean I i kinda want to root for them
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like it's good to you
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I like the idea of students on an
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Indiana Jones movie right i did but you
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know what that had this one doesn't have
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George Lucas so I was talking about the
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Last Crusade the good one Harrison Ford
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was not the problem with the kids
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Crystal Skull you know he his age was
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not did that bastard and I was like I'm
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saying that there are movies with old
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people men anyway having adventures but
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and and it's not like I'm against these
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people if if she I would almost feel
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better if the if the old people are the
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only people sitting in that big circle
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of ikea couches talking to each other
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because it's clear that they have a
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bunch of young actors who are going to
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be in this movie and so it's not like if
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you just want to have these guys have a
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bunch of ventures old people that's
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that's fine i'll i'll see that story
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it's just like it's Reds in space
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I feel like this there's another story
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with these young actors they have to
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tell and it is incredible balancing act
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between how much do we put the old
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people on so it doesn't feel like
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they're just talking cameos versus how
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much they taking spotlight with everyone
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wants to see Luke Skywalker but what
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about these new guys and like I it's a
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really difficult balance its it really
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amps up i think the degree of difficulty
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of making this into a good movie but
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throwing those guys in the neck the
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rumor is that Michael Arndt script was
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focused mostly on the new generation
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with a hat tip to the old and that the
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JJ Abrams
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and Lawrence Kasdan version that is now
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the one that they're gonna do the old
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cast members are much more involved than
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they were with you know you would think
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if Joss Whedon was doing you would think
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at least one or two of them would die
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sure i would wrap that would wrap them
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up that would wrap up their story they
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would die heroically they would die as a
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sacrifice maybe one of them would have
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troubles and died tragically but like in
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any way you gotta tie those off
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yeah and then that and that's not a bad
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thing I i wanna i mean i actually am
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sort of Lisa on the fact that I think I
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you know how people talk about how the
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prequel sort of ruined their childhood
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memories of star wars because now
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they've got these prequels in the way
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what I think I think this is a riskier
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move and I actually think this is gonna
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have a much higher degree of a chance of
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success than that then the prequels in
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hindsight being the prequels were
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failures I i I'm fairly positive that
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this movie is going to be at the very
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least fine and maybe good you know right
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i like James has proven i think with a
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Star Trek movies especially that he's a
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he's a capable guy I think he
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understands why Star Wars popular which
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George Lucas doesn't like we already
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made what we might read with the best
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Star Wars movie in here in which star
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trek into darkness right so so but but i
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think it's risky and it's for something
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that the that i mentioned at least
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mentioned earlier I think it's risky
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because you know the prequels backfilled
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what you thought of this universe but
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now they're going to tell us this is
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what happened to han and Leia and Luke
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and that's it
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this is this is them 30 years later and
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that's I feel like that is a bigger
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gamble because everybody has been able
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to kind of imagine what the rest of the
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story was and now they're gonna show us
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what the rest of the story was for those
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characters and that that's scary
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well they skipping skipping 30 years so
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we can still imagine was 30 years recall
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what it's like you did that that story
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ended with ok so they've just like this
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they disrupted the wedding in the back
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of the bus now what happens that really
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was the end of the story where the point
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was now we don't know what happens but
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they've done something that they wanted
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to do and yet the idea that they have
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defeated the enemy that they needed to
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be defeated now anything can happen from
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this point on and we're not gonna tell
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you what that is but by the by the
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buildup in the
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music at the very end we are implying
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that positive things happen and now
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you're right if we if we if we rack back
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40 years later find out that
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yeah turns out that layout turned to the
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dark side and killed a whole bunch of
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people and hand was like actually
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locking carbon for the past 25 years and
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he's the only person who knew the access
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codes to release the oh man you just
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ruined the opti uplifting ending that we
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had grown man I've got two words for you
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trade negotiation as long as I keep that
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it's not as if I'm saying that the what
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we're gonna get is something with some
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fulfilling but it's going to be
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definitive and that means that all the
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other kind of dreams of what the story
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could have been will be collapsed 21 and
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which is true but we've also done the
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same we've already compartmentalize the
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previous and I reserve the right to
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totally cut these off of their crappy to
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sure doesn't those middle movies will
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stand on their own forever and I don't
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care what comes before them or what
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comes after me for crying out loud is
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all sorts of novels that I probably
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think you're terrible that came after i
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just didn't read them and if i had read
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them i would be like well i'm not paying
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attention that there was this little
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story that's good
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ever you know it's the roommates the
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removal of mystery that i have the
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problem with that was my problem the
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first three movies is that it took all
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the mystery way from Darth Vader because
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you think about episodes 4 5 and 6 and
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you're like what the hell how does a man
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turned out to be this half machine
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hybrid with connections to an evil
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sorcerer and you don't really get a good
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answer to that and that's what makes the
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earth better such a tragic and
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interesting the removal of history the
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bigger problem is that it was sucky and
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then you find out like episodes one
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through three that while he's just kind
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of a douche nozzle and you're like wait
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what and how
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wait why how that this guy because his
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legs cut off somehow turns into a cyborg
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and then Ben Kenobi turns out look like
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a massive idiot retrospect because of
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inexplicable scripture and decisions in
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episode 3 blah blah blah and I kind of
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don't want that to happen with episode 7
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through 9 where the mystery as to what
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happens to han and Leia and everybody
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else gets revealed I I don't want the
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answers on because i don't want to I
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don't want to risk the disappointment as
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it were you may want to hide for the
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next six years then you know it and then
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again the other things I kind of don't
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care as much like as I would have if
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right if if I were a child or teenager
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or younger person you know at this point
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it's kind of a mess with something i
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really like and i'll still go to the
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movies and I'll probably look at them
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and say okay what if what has been
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updated to reflect the cinematic
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sensibilities of the early 21st century
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but I haven't you know I'm not burning
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to find out what happened to the old
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guard i am kind of interested to see if
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they do manage to do a graceful
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balancing act or perhaps these trees
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movies transition away from the founders
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of the New Republic whatever you want to
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call it and into the people were like
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okay yes that's great you took down the
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Death Star blah blah blah you haven't
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really done anything interesting last 25
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years sense so some out-of-the-way
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grandpa this is time for Phase two turns
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out they just kept the Empire running
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all those years are like well the
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infrastructure is already here we could
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probably just slaughter sales area with
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a rebranded I mean they they took a new
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logo it was you know it's all rebranding
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effort its agents of shield Hydra time
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for a sponsor break and this one's for
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the gentlemen this is for Harry's
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Harry's is all about shaving Harry's was
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sparked by a personal experience of one
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of the hairies founders and e2
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emblematic of the experience that a lot
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of us guys have dealt with he went to a
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drugstore waited 10 minutes for someone
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to unlock the case where the razors were
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it's just too bad that you walked ending
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move this guy and he was very important
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Dancing with the Stars because you see
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everything that picture on the homestead
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always been like ready to grade to pilot
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carrie fisher and Mark Hamill are now
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trim and looking good
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like ok they're going to be in some sort
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of a movie and it's not a direct to DVD
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release so it must be star wars that
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how many females there are and when I
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characters is what they are they just
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starbucks to a woman and it wasn't that
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did it no one called them on oh you
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characters you have to go but when
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introducing new characters that's an
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opportunity to like that I think that's
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most it's one woman and however many
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lack of talent and I mention this to
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ago in a galaxy far far away before
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everything I know the thing about Star
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star trek into darkness is that they
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that is she
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part of the crew and they will bring her
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that problem and trying to introduce
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other characters from corners of their
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cannon just to get a little more balance
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new set of Star Trek Star Wars actressy
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how to pronounce all these names John
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performance of node andy serkis dumb
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Domhnall Gleeson and of course the
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famous classic actor max pondside oh but
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we don't we don't know what the balance
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in this our John boyega Daisy Ridley and
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Adam driver and it's a black man a woman
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three main characters this movie seems
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more diverse you know it's not like but
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they announced our it's not a
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particularly diverse group but you know
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if John boyega is the lead
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there's a weather big deal to that they
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release this lesson like that's
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everything Lando's on list all he can
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have a cameo it's like you figure if he
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was going to be in the movie would be on
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this list like they didn't listen extras
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they didn't list like you know Imperial
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triple people that they're holding
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people back specifically for canada i
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first female so I was joking that the
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genius about pacific rim is that
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Guillermo del Toro sold the movie as
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handsome Charlie Hunnam takes off shirt
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the beginning of the movie and then goes
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in fights with giant robots and the
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movie actually made was a black man and
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his surrogate asian daughter managed to
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work some heavy emotional stuff before
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saving the world so they want with giant
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robot so I feel like it and it was and
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what was interesting was when you looked
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at pacific rim was marketed it was
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handsome Charlie Hunnam will go and
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fight monsters with robots and then
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again I remind you the movie as African
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if you're handsome black man
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oh god so handsome handsome black man
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and is a diet and his adopted asian
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daughter work out their emotional issues
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and go fight and go fight aliens and
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robots and if he--if Star Wars is using
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that tactic where they're selling it as
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a fan boys this is the kind of
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comfortable nerdery cast that you can
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get used to and then the movie turns out
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to be and some black guy and his
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kick-ass female companion do interesting
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things in the galaxy like my hat is off
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to stars if that's how they do it but i
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think that when you're handed the keys
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to a huge franchise this isn't just a
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creative endeavor there there are
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probably really specific business
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benchmarks they have to hit and big
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studios tend to be really concerned
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about things like casting and marketing
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and and creative product and what
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they're going to do is look at the
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bottom line and say what is more
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saleable a white space captain and you
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know his crew of bro Himes or somebody
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he points out that little kids are
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showing up to see him in handmade Miles
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Morales costumes because nobody has
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thought it's a good idea to license and
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manufacture the spider-man costume for
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the half hispanic for had a half Latino
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half black spider-man which to me is
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crazy like that should be too given but
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you do have these cross-marketing
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considerations to play you know it's it
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that's going to change you know based on
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story are we going to tell here you know
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what is what is the story 30 years later
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god original cast was hey that's not it
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films and that's this is all part of the
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where these people are and they're gonna
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figure it out so you want to take
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announce who the new actors are who are
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everybody's going to know it so you want
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to get ahead of it and they announced
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the Chewbacca's in the movie you know a
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expand you force play because it is that
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it brings up the question so they just
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laid today this is PR I mean this is PR
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as its supposed to be so that that's
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what's that's what's going on here at
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having seen girls Adam driver i'm
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fascinated by that bit of casting
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because I think he's a very interesting
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actor although again as you know with a
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lot of casting you've got that you know
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I attaching remember what their other
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roles were like and then being like okay
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just let's you know he will not be
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playing the same character presumably as
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his character on girls in Star Wars
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because that would be really weird
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although he could yeah he's the Jedi who
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walks around without a shirt on all the
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sure i would not have a problem with
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that ninety i have a problem with what
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is this luke why is the entire New Jedi
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core service look it's a thing that time
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I love that idea of a look at it
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obviously haha fascinating fascinating
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group but it makes sense to speculate
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about any of these characters these
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actors being under makeup for andy
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serkis we should talk about that is but
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he's going to play a motion-capture guy
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mean he's a i would assume that he's
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been a lot of live-action movies as an
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actor he is NDE could be doing that but
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there's also the possibility that he's
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gonna be a completely cgi characters but
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i think he looks right for the star wars
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universe like him actually a kind of got
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a he's got a he's got an email
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german thing go and all right or even
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like a bounty hunter I mean like this
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vaguely alien to that helps right that
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this was thinking with Adam driver that
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it's not like you can see oh oh you know
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would be great in these movies and
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Cassidy Jones oh my god I'm gonna need
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to get done Jones movies Adam driver ID
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to me sounds like he he he feels like
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the bad guy i have to say i think that
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is what is behind Lisa's any murder yeah
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I think he's got my god i just looked up
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a picture without Jones and he looks
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like a terrifying Sith Lord
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oh ya think he's the greatest he does he
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does a lot of really great body might be
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missing and you should be glad when he
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was ambassador he was that helpful body
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he was the body for oh god for a but
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what's his favorite band album or a pin
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hellboy on you know he's a really gifted
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physical actor and he's also got a
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reputation for being one of the nicest
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people in the industry so that kind of
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fits in with the star wars with because
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Star Wars does the actors do seem to
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have a culture of of actively not being
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so I I feel like needs to work with
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no I feel like you fit in culturally
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with both the workplace and and the
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fandom as it were and he's incredibly
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gifted physically and he looks like
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something from another planet and it
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would be not it would be nice if you had
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some pretty explicitly Ellen
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alien-looking people or after to
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convincingly channel this otherworldly
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quality you know it could it could be
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that all the new actors have blue skin
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and this shot you know like every star
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trek would say these guys are for and
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makeup that's that's why it's in black
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and white parts there in blue face
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oh my god it's justwell avatar did so
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well but of course
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oh no no it's not channel after why is
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blue such a big science fiction
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because you don't run into a lot of
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people with school probably not and DZ
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what Stacy's last name we really these
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she's what 19 20 she's pretty young
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right like I that was the one that
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struck me the most besides the fact that
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she was female but clearly she is
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playing the child of somebody she's
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either that or they find some random
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child on a because it's it's very odd
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right i think the youngest person we've
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ever seen in the star wars universe and
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I'm think talking about the cannon star
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wars universe not the prequels jacobs
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you've got well you yet
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well but like not talking about Jake
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Lloyd for something like talking about
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the original three movies you've got
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Leia and Leia is supposed to be like 19
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to 24 yeah right so she's well Carrie
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Carrie Fisher's like 21 she made those
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movies yeah it was a few times as casted
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salutes honestly yeah assume that Daisy
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Ridley is playing Han and Leia's
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daughter right all right look also
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heavily rumored did you did you look at
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her IMDB page it's hilarious because got
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a picture of her head shot from
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publishers and the only other photo on
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the page is that shot of them in the
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circle of chairs so talk about an
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unknown
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it's like she's known for being in this
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chair she looks like she also like
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natalie portman around the eyes instead
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of the mouth too so there's a little bit
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so there's that that almost looks like
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your grandmother yeah so the her her
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real was up for a very very short time
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and I was able to watch it and then they
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pulled it down which is interesting it's
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like why would you pull down a real from
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an actress unless you want to you want
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to be the ones launching her career like
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clearly she has a major role in in the
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in the upcoming movie we just you know
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we can speculate on whose daughter she
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is or or what precisely that role is but
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needless to say it like she is the
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person that they're they're clearly
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pinning some some major star power
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behind but it can be a defensive action
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to nobody is going to be an end up in
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the pr blackout that's going to happen
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over the next X number of months while
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this thing is being filmed so much
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speculation on the credibility of every
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one of these actors is going to be just
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filling every single modulus
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and if you have some kind of roby
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credits to your name their kind of okay
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movies for not very good or one scene
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that is in your real that you kind of
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wish weren't there
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that's all you're gonna be about for the
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next eight to nine months i it's it's
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it's such a great opportunity it's a
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great idea so it's a wonderful part 2
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thing to be part of this legacy again
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but i'm not sure if it's a little bit
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like running for office every single
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thing you do is going to be scrutinized
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and they're gonna be a lot of people who
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are going to be projecting their own
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fears and their own misconceptions onto
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you and blaming you for stuff that
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didn't take long would write do an
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interview where he just said that this
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is I hate the fact that I did this movie
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because there's so many people who were
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just using my name as an expletive on
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everything that is wrong and unholy on
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this planet
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yeah he claims and star wars are in his
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well i think i might have a mutual so
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adorable little boy is fighting stuff
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with child actor then he didn't write
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the script you know like but I'm having
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I'm realizing how much the prequels
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messed me up in terms of like another
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it's like this should be trigger
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warnings on his casting things because
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whatever i say like I remember how
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excited I was like when you and Gregor
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was cast like these could be the best
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move would like the caliber of actors
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are getting in these prequels this is
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gonna be amazing right even the bit
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parts like you know Samuel Jackson is
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good and then when I see all these
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actors some point I really I really I
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really like I'm driver I these new
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actress like I look at them and I don't
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know anything about them like wow that i
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can just imagine them being great and
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then all I office i get a flash of these
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awesome actors standing as a green
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screen saying terrible dialogue like no
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it's just I don't want to remember that
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happens to disney flying out right here
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I won't get better i'm trying to have
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trying to have hope but like that's I
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mean this is like by lawrence kasdan
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that's why I wanted this I just wanted
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to be a good movie it's all like I don't
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even I don't even need to feel like star
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wars are needed to like a never think
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about in terms of the overall plot I
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almost hope this isn't the case i know
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is a silly hope but like I kind of feel
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like the antagonist in the three real
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star wars movies and the prequels more
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or less was well it's light side of the
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forest for the dark side of the force
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right and I feel like now that conflict
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was resolved for all eternity at the end
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of general but more or less the light
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side one and
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you know balance has been restored or
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whatever I don't want all the movies to
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every movie has to be about let's see
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how this if they're going to worm their
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way back in this time and how they're
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going to be is it doesn't always have to
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be light side of the force for his dark
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side of the force forever and ever for
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the next 15 movies are other stories we
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can tell in the star wars universe
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we're gonna find out and I think what I
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think one of the things that make
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filming with such optimism is that this
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that the entire package has been sold to
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a totally new production company
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it's a totally new director totally knew
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everything that people who don't feel as
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though they have that much of an
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obligation to pay homage to the previous
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culture yes there yes they have the the
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lot of the original cast members but I
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feel as though a lot of the problems
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with the prequels came about with
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wanting to make fans happy with the same
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characters that they had earlier the the
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fancy what is Chewbacca doing at the end
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of the at the inn at the end of episode
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three what are all these other
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characters appearing even though they
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don't make much sense but they're trying
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to make more toys try to expand expand
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the line trying to make this whole thing
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makes sense was not supposed to really
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make sense you're supposed to have a
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republic cereal done with really really
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great ultra-modern 1977 style
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special-effects keep it simple with the
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spin-off kind of thing so one approach
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narrowing of the story to be like let's
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bigger picture here partially because
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movies there the goal the end goal here
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movie story and so that I think that
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actually take some of the pressure off
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tell to create you know a new take on
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this universe instead of doing what they
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replay the past and tell that same story
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basically invert that story until it
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these things are coming from the
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conflict or not but the problem with
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every Marvel movie is that's like are we
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everybody loves them each one is able to
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carry its own movie you know like it
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everything works out but like but we
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need something for them to do we need
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them to fight me than to fight an enemy
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we need the world to be in peril and
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it's like the antagonist is always the
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biggest scare factor in those movies
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like if they pick a bad villain or if
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it's just a stupid you know if I don't
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care about them saving the world from
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got a bag of villains witness to reach
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one this is the real movie this is the
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whatever movie comic books kind of go
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that direction too but with the marble
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ones like well also it has to be in
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peril everyone points7 movies we have to
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have the entire Earth be in parallel
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systems and it's so hard to keep coming
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up with those that we love the heroes
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the doing Star Wars they have like oh we
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light side versus dark side six verses
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back around in and movie 10 for the city
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where are these it we're getting in the
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mystery drama were oh my god his
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midi-chlorian are being killed
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what's going on i'm not saying they're
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going to do this like I i have no idea
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what the plot of this movie is going to
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be and I don't want to be spoiled by
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brother i really hope that they are like
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there are many other choices to have I'm
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sure the extent expanding universe
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novels did all these choices is this a
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spy book is this a war story is this a
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you know a romance is thriller like they
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can do all these things and I don't know
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what you're going to do I'm just I'm
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just expressing my fear is not that I'm
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gonna hurt anything that they're going
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to do this but i like the idea of seeing
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the different you know angles that we're
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talking about here i mean for example to
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start going back to another movie we
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america the winter soldier was a nice i
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think twist on the e it wasn't about
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necessarily the entire world being
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parallel yeah they did raise you know
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stakes a couple points but he had a
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feeling of like a spy thriller to it and
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it's like and I could I would love to
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see a Star Wars movie that's in that
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vein that's like hey turns out the New
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Republic isn't that much better than the
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Empire that we were playing so well but
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you know what i loved about the winter
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soldier and i miss that discussion
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because I think parenting
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happen but yeah like a virus
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anyway I'm what I like about that it was
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actually it was actually something where
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people had to use their brains to get
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out of the situation it wasn't merely oh
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look he's filled with serum and he can
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do things with it was it was genuine
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like you actually saw cap string a
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couple thoughts together and then get
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all strategically on you and my hope is
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that they actually did that with star
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wars 2 because in theory someone like
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operator before she had her adventures
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with her brother and his best friends so
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you know I wouldn't mind seeing a
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princess leia who is basically the
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Hillary Rodham Clinton of the Republic
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was basically operating is as a power
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player with amusing tumblers devoted to
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her I think there's room for brains in
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the franchise that makes sense it's not
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just in a mystical Muppets yammering on
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about medical lorians i would really
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like to see something where where where
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in its people tackling the question of
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good force versus bad for sand and maybe
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somebody i have no problem good versus
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bad because that's your eternal you know
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man vs himself type struggle so so what
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if you do have some takeout drivers like
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but what if we can use the bad for us to
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do good thing
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listen and then you've got an antihero
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an interesting question to be answered
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I'd love that was it's a customer
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optimism that there we are planning on
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doing a movie every single year now
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because that's it does its I think if
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you don't if you have two or three years
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to do a sequel it seems like the that
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you have to basically say this has to be
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the biggest most sprawling epic movie
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and all and yeah exactly
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yes there it feels like they can see if
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one of your people yeah and so if you're
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writing the story for whatever the first
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for we won't be great we should have
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another character sort of off against
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this other person so that's great let's
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do that next year or the year after that
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let's keep this one movie streamline its
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like I'll there's the most bizarre thing
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Woody Allen movies where he just makes a
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very mainstream and some of them can be
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exactly what you expect a Woody Allen
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single one of them but over five years
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he's gonna make five movies of which one
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3like and to you don't even bother to
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see and I would be perfectly fine at
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this time for bed
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that's what i was saying bye-bye having
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the pressure be off a little bit that
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right that uh you know it it uh it could
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that the canvas is really wide now and
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the only story and it would be nice to
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trilogy in the prequel july i think
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they're doing the inverted Avengers that
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like like it's an it's it in the
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Avengers movies and we're gonna do a
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bunch of small movie some of them every
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crap so I'm gonna be good what we're all
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building up to here guys is the Avengers
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to do a couple more small moves into
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captain america movie do this
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we and then we're going to have Avengers
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more small boobs and then we're gonna
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have interest three this they're doing
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Avengers 1 2 & 3 upfront and rensing ok
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here's all the spin-off movies and maybe
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one of them will turn out like green
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lantern sorry about that but one of the
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many deaths in America you know
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Green Lantern to start your engines John
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I don't know what I just know that was
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yeah that's good for you have no clothes
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burned holes all the way to go when
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you're using fire
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ya know what I mean that they are i
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think the plan is to have them alternate
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so they are going to do sort of like the
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big movie and then a little movie and
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then a big movie and then a little movie
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about how you gonna do that it's
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interesting i was talking to my wife
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about this the other day that's like you
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know Star Wars being an active franchise
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like the Marvel movies are now that's
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kind of weird
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it's it me feel it's like it's kind of
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weird I mean because it's always been
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something that goes into hibernation
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right even between like you know 20
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years between the prequels and and the
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original movies right and then another
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you know decade and it so it's something
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that comes and goes in spurts and yeah
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you have other properties like your
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clone wars you know TV show or the books
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or the comic books yourself running
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between but then you have these tent
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poles that seem to pop up every couple
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decades so it is really different to
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think of it being something that's like
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I mean it's not out of the question that
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we see a star wars like live-action TV
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show which is something they had had
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talked about for years but never really
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got off the ground but it's certainly
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with with Disney's backing not at all
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i've got their own TV network and you
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know that we've seen that they have a
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willingness to take the Marvel stuff and
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do a TV outpost of that so why would you
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not do that with star wars shirt or
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camper adventure huh generated Godhead
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well the Trade Federation the series but
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one thing I don't want to see is like
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the like the kevin smith version where
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hey now we're gonna have a whole story
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we get to the storm troopers who are
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like really just kind of jaded and just
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hang it out and they're saying omen
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I think it's been done on the internet
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and sketch looks like a robot chicken
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sketch way and and a bunch of other
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things my troop remember Trudy area
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they're so
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they're so
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many things was funny because it was
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just like a YouTube video but one like
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once like a movie studio says we're
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going to work we're too cool to say that
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star wars is awesome we're really
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excited about doing a great story with
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classic characters
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no actually oh no I'm too cool for this
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I'm gonna make poke fun and i have two
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characters talk about a butt man
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why did we even build a desktop to begin
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with they could be so easily blown up
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what's up with that took come on Jerry
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Seinfeld let's start with what you know
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what I see are the nexus poor i think
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was idea was this
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Star Trek has shown that they are in JJ
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least I think strikes the right balance
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between not taking yourself too
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seriously but taking it seriously enough
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like it's not that's why i was back in
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the beginning I was talking about
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fearing a dead that I a poor director
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would acknowledge that people are going
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to apply but Luke Skywalker first
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appeals and they would build it into the
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movie in the editing and the directing
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and JJ will not do that I think you will
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have the movie go straight forward that
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the movie the play with a movie plays it
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will take itself seriously a wink itself
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perhaps even less we can get itself than
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Jedi just about the Empire level winking
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itself but it will never be like that
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cynical or whatever because like if you
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look at the star trek movies he really
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believes in the drama of these things
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happening and is not gonna be like well
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as spaceship and the aliens whatever who
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cares like he's gonna sell he's gonna
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sell the emotion of everything like I'm
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really glad that he he's doing this when
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I think about the star trek movies it
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makes me optimistic for these movies to
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strike the right balance because water
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was helping this I could see that being
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a possibility but I feel like with him
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behind it and presumably his influence
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on whatever other properties spin-off of
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it I i I'm hoping that you know
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everything goes well and Star Wars was
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his you know he's not his baby but his
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that was his french fries
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you know he was practicing with Star
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Trek as is appropriate i think but if
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you go back and watch lost like clearly
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he is a huge Star Wars fan right like
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that all sorts of jokes about Star Wars
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monster stuff and you know that's the
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reason I think we all know that he
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ultimately took this right even though
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he was doing the star trek franchise
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like he could not say no to star wars
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sounds like he actually was afraid to
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say yes because it means so much to him
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and but so so this is something i wanted
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to close with it's good to talk a little
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bit about JJ Abrams which you know is
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he's got it he's got his critics and
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he's definitely got some issues in the
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end of Star Trek movies he's done you
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know are not are not perfect but I'm I'm
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really encouraged by his choice because
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he does love Star Wars and like I said
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at the beginning of the show I feel like
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he under he understands why Star Wars is
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great like hehe i feel like he gets it
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in that way and that's vitally important
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that that you've got creative people who
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actually like understand why people love
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star wars because I really do believe
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that was George Lucas's ultimately yeah
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he can't write dialogue with a lot of
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things but his fatal flaw was George
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Lucas never understood why people loved
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his thing he never got why people
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actually attached to it and I think JJ
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Abrams totally gets it and what we saw
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him do with Star Trek was taking a
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franchise that was essentially dead and
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rethink it and and make it in the
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context of modern moviemaking while
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still honoring the things that people
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loved about it and that mean that you
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that's the perfect template for this and
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speaking of the guy was sitting next to
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JJ the more I see about Harrison Ford
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like how he operates as an actor in the
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various movies that he's in that in
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addition to all his grouchiness and all
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is you know just the way he line reading
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the reading the gigantic making a
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vampire book and like I its he has a
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surprising amount of influence
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increasing with his you know fame on the
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movies that he's in for the better
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I you know like all the all the ways he
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was contributing to these scenes in
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Empire where he was more or less just a
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kid right and now at this point when
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he's in a movie he feels like he's
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practically the second director
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obviously that's going to be reined in
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by JJ you know i'm assuming he can
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handle him but like his his influence
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his understanding i think harrison ford
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also understands what makes our way even
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though he's grumpy about it even though
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he's kind of gets pissed off these han
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Solo and he likes in the engines better
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all these other things he's got a head
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on his shoulders about what makes good
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movies and so like when I see them
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leaning into each other and talking like
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yes listen to him he may be a jerk
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sometimes but he knows what he's talking
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about he and almost certain point of
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yeah exactly i got that reference I
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appreciate that reference very good
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you're fired and nobody knowledge to
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direct this money I'm different if
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there's a bad feeling about this in in
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like I mean I will give him 14 episode
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7i will happen one bed
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and that's it and it better be like
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middle to late movie better be like I
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have a bad feeling that person just gets
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shot in the hair yes right that's the
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that's the amount of linking you're
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allowed you get one of those preferably
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the person gets killed before you
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complete the sentence that's it
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The Scream don't they'll be with their
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grandkids there be playing a game of the
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grandkids hey wait admitted toga shot
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first at-bats over the line that had
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long as they don't have those high-fives
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where they failed to make contact
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Leah will give to bottom angel and and
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I'm told you can be arranged but much
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let's all write a bad for outsourcing
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this script right here right now if we
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do it here then they won't do it there
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that's the idea right we just saved here
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is like saying bad things before you get
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on a plane flight just say all the bad
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things that you don't want to see the
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star wars movie and they won't happen
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that's exactly what banks charge of inks
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Jar Jar Jar Binks guns at all no guns
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and not even the background shot he
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walks he walks baby baby walks I i think
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the opening crawl will just say you know
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the galaxy is internal turmoil following
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wake of the Gungan extinction and then
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just continue on
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just remember that they're they're not
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already times can we say we're sorry
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here here's Hans solo again you like
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consoles are Wars Episode 7 the apology
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of your money back on any of the
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prequels or any of the toys you bought
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but let's just try to rebuild and that's
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the scroll to say Star Wars Episode 7
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than a big long empty space and then a
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thing imprint lisa says don't worry we
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got this
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yahoo or gotcha team is getting well I
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mean the message sent by having at
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having not only hiring JJ Abrams but but
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that that is a message of like hey you
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know that guy who wrote that Empire
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he's going to be really deeply involved
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in in the in the creative aspects and
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the answer i don't know whether it's
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lawrence casting JJ Abrams or or or if
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it's kathleen kennedy but she's more of
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a producer which is like the Marvel
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movies have some cut kinda like a
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stories that Lawrence casting is sort of
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doing some of that for Star Wars of
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franchisees you know they've got
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what are we doing and where we going
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from here and I think that's good i I
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think it's not just PR but i think it's
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a little message that this is a guy who
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understands the franchise and did good
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work in it and he's we brought him in to
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make sure that this stuff is okay that's
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kind of dangerous to like the whole the
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whole showrunner thing like that the
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person's the one person's personality is
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imprinted so heavily on the things
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they're running whereas again reading
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the the Empire book you see how how did
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the Empire story come to be we got the
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lead bracket thing with the more or less
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straight away then you had Kasdan and
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then you had Lucas and Kirshner and the
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three of them would argue with each
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hell the story was going to be and that
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the three of them kind of fighting with
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each other and no one of the you know
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that was before Lucas was like well it's
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just do this like they would argue
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around the table to see how things were
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going to go and I think that benefited
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the movie because it had just been
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Kazmir gets to do whatever he wants it
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would have been as good as a movie in
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Italy because what you want filmic
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filmmaking the collaborative art by
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graduation right but like what I'm
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seeing here is like oh now it's like
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it's not cast in the nineteen seventies
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and eighties its casting now and I hope
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you if I don't I hope there's no one
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person running the show including JJ I
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hope that it is more of a like you know
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it because it's not like around this
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background to the Soviets yeah it always
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comes back there
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well don't like like Marvel you know Jon
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Jon Favreau was involved from the early
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stages and now Joss Whedon sort of the
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the dominant that thing although they've
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also got Kevin I keefy whose bethpage
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the pitch fade so he's like a disease
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anyway the they've got they've got some
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people who are working on it but that
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doesn't mean the winter soldier isn't
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still heavily influenced by the
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screenwriters and directors of it so so
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you know there's room for that
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creativity but there's also sort of like
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a an overarching vision that I think is
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kind of important like where we going
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I do wonder about that but I like I just
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like see Lawrence cast in there he just
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just because it's like he did this he
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kind of gets it gives you a link to the
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past and it's somebody who understands
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the franchise
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so I think that's a good message to send
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we'll we'll see what you know what the
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screenplay is like but I think it's a
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good message sent
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well as soon as JJ send us a copy of his
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script will be will be
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yeah you got to have about it i was
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trying to avoid I'm trying to avoid
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spoilers so I'm i want to go into this
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movie not knowing what it's about not
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knowing who dies not and maybe maybe
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that's a tall order but i'm going to try
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its yeah that is I mean I accidentally
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remember I've ever getting the Phantom
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Menace will quite an active am
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soundtrack yeah so I'm child would like
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to avoid that this time around
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episode 7 the death of Han Solo will
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anything else we should talk about
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before we wrap it up anything else you
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based on sort of like anything that's
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happened since this was all announced
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that you've got buzzing around your
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brains that we should talk I just I just
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keep thinking again we're sort of
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touched upon the holster reality of this
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actually happening i think when we
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talked about the the disney
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announcements but yeah I mean the idea
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that like well it's not gonna be very
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long before we see like a trailer or
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something that like I remember that I
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remember the episode 1 trailer being
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like a huge you and that we turn out to
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be crap but i still can't you know can't
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quite avoid getting excited about the
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idea of seeing this and let's so fair
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the episode 1 trailer was pretty cool
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that original one with the with the
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breathing that was great
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if only I had been building the next one
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was a bad but like yeah if they move
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they could have made a two-minute movie
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like it probably could have pulled it
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no I'm hopeful i want to be hopeful i
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want to believe JJ I want to believe I
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mean it's Star Wars Spencer formative
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part of my life and my geekdom that I I
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can't like even if it's terrible even if
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it's the worst thing ever i can't help
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but want to love it and i'm going to try
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and stay positive and want to love it
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and like John avoid spoilers because you
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know what it's like as as in adults as a
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kid I love spoilers and I was like yes
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give me all the spoilers I want to know
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everything ahead of time i'll try and
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download the movie so I can watch the
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first 10 minutes over and over because
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the restaurant download it but now I you
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I appreciate the move I appreciate
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stories being told in their in their
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fullest you know completest extent and I
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would i I'm excited to see what they do
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with it they certainly I mean they have
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a banner cast and they potentially have
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good screenwriters I don't see you know
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or sour or skirts skirts i can say his
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last war zone first vault or seven parts
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pasta is writing the script we have many
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well sometimes their lines end up being
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lame pasta I just say more zone risotto
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I exactly terrible building i think
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through silly has done some excellent
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work only with all an Italian and it
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really just you know what the dog for
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graduation
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yes plots have great twist though the
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fusilli wants nicely but I'm bummed this
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this podcast has devolved now I it's
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gotten late now
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it all starts to make sense to me now
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because that I haven't you you should be
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very concerned right now you could
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possibly seek some sort of medical all
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right anything else we should talk about
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before we go I am I just gonna want my
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capper on this movies i predict escaping
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my music i'm predicting my response was
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going to be very similar to my response
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to the star trek reboot but magnified
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because i'm not as invested in Star Trek
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is as some other people on this podcast
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but i do care about it you know a little
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bit and my reaction to the the first the
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star trek reboot was like I had I had
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this things like this should be a really
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good movie and I'm going to hold it to a
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higher standard because i really like
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this franchise right and I did that with
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the movie and then what i found is when
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you know I had a little grudge like well
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that wasn't a bad movie it was actually
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pretty good but it should have been a
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little bit better because hey it's Star
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Trek right and then I found on repeat
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watchings i gave the movie a break and
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I'm like you know what I really enjoy
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this the same guy with a second movie
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like i was able to like you know and my
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attachment of Star Wars is even stronger
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so it's probably no matter how good this
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movie is I'm gonna be like well that was
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pretty good but and on repeat viewings I
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think it'd be like just relax just you
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know go with it like you just let go of
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your preconceived notions and how you
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think this has to be like Godfather Part
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2 in space with lightsabers because i'm
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not going to be and just allow it to be
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biggest star movies I
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maintain like there are things I don't
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like about the micellar podcast but
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every time I rewatched the moment you
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know what I enjoyed watching that and
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like every time I watch it gets better
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that's not a bad thing to have this to
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say i would like this movie to be fun i
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would like to enjoy this movie like just
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yeah i mean i have the worst thing that
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would happen for me is if they try to
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make this into we're going to totally
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reinvent the star wars universe because
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again this was not designed to ever be
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ground-breaking taxi drivers style
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seventies epics and you set the cinema
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this was designed to be we're going to
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take the very very classic warriors
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journey and we're going to make this in
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the style of a dogfight movies from the
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nineteen thirties and Republic cereals
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and we're just gonna deliver a lot of
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popcorn value for someone's 90 minutes
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for the running time and my overall
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attitude is that I'm perfectly fine i'm
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i'm really looking forward to these
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movies because if it's a terrible movie
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the first the movies that i still liked
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will still be there i will still be able
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to watch them like them and there's
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always a chance that they'll be really
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really good and we have an advantage
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that a lot of other generations don't
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have which is even if it's not a great
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movie we get to reconnect with that part
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of our childhood that we treasure and
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all of those influences that star wars
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had on as both personally and from an
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entertainment value and how it shaped
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our word worldview and every great
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memory that we have that's going to be
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really triggered and rekindle that we're
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going to enjoy it even a mediocre movie
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the way that other with the viewers are
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just not going to be able to access and
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certain star trek worked on that level
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for me exactly right it's like all these
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buttons that only that you know original
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set of characters could possibly push
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and and i'm also reminded i want to
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mention serenity not called well
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although i could mention you to the move
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the firefly a continuation film i
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remember coming and i said this on the
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pockets before my wife and I came out of
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that movie and said pipes fun i haven't
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seen a movie that was a sci-fi movie
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that was fun like that in a long time
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that too and there are there other
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movies like that but like I would like
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it to be fun right i would like it to be
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fun and and fun adventure yet
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out we're gonna have this burden of
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expectation we're gonna be like well you
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know it didn't do this and didn't do
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god I would if I had to pick one thing
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for a new star wars movie to be i would
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choose fun just if you if it's a fun
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ride and it doesn't check 20 different
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boxes and it isn't got the Godfather in
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space and then yeah that's fine as long
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as it's enjoyable fun and I leave the
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theater energized right well see even
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the fun aspects of like in the star trek
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movie like I was holding against the
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parts that I deemed not didn't take it
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seriously enough for example like there
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are parts of the starter motor resistor
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week giving it the example from into
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darkness is like the bikini scene or
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whatever but like in the first one like
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when his hand gets puffy I was like well
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that that's a little bit to slapstick
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for Star Trek right and i still think
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that's not the best sequence in the
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movie but now when i watch the movie I
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like I don't hold that against that I'm
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like okay well here's the silly part
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usually doesn't work because because
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there are good parts if you don't like
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their weaknesses in the movie and like
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and it's I don't want to take those
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weaknesses and say but you had this
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weakness but you have this one thing
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that I think wasn't the best choice and
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it's like just just ignore that part if
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the rest of the movie is good like I
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mean that there's their limits like I
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can't put the jar level kind of disaster
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in the middle of the good movie but I
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really just need to not get obsessed
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with the things that I know are wrong
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with the movie and just say what about
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things that are right about the movie
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right what about the good parts and
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especially in like maybe like a real
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started rebooting when I rewatching I'm
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like this opening sequence is
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unbelievable like with the childbirth I
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guess it's melodrama is ridiculous space
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opera like yes that's what it's supposed
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to be yourself seriously it's
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beautifully shot there's lots of lens
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the lens flares if you really like those
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you know really good lens flares contain
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a coded message for John you love in
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that like I'm I'm multiple viewings I'm
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like you know what
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that's an obvious stylistic choice and
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it's something interesting it's a little
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bit different if they use lens flares
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all the Star Wars maybe i'll be pissed
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but it's making choices and I think
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that's what it comes down to for a lot
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for good direction is making choices and
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not just being like that whatever
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whatever works like bunch of people on a
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catch against a green screen should be
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time for its making definitive choices
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sometimes those choices will be bad but
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a lot of times they'll be good
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so you know that's kind of what you got
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to go for ya almost certainly not all
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right i think this is a good discussion
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about a movie that's not coming out for
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a year and a half but you know Star Wars
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as much on our minds and it's
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interesting to see this this news
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continue to progress it is a funny thing
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to be in a world where star wars is an
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active franchise actively shooting you
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know as we sit here were or like in a
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week's time you know Harrison Ford will
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be acting in front of a camera as han
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solo how crazy is that
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I don't believe it I like the world that
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I live in right now
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yeah it's pretty great i didn't i look
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forward to being back with you guys here
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in like another six months as we like
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pick apart the miniature details of the
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trailer would come back yeah
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go to frame 107 that's right now advance
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my lightsaber handle that's being flung
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away man and enhance yeah alright well i
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would like to thank my guests for
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joining me to talk about this
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thanks Lisa thank you i enjoyed this you
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guys are making me feel a lot more
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optimistic about this panel with myself
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thank you the victory John siracusa
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thank you very much we'll try to keep
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you unspoiled most hours more problems
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Jason sure
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boy that that's been true lately so
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let's hope that maybe fewer problems in
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the future then more and thank you
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I have a great feeling about this Wow
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optimism i like it
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indian taco thank you i know and
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serenity called well thank you for being
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here I've I have
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you have no words alright no words I
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have no questions the force done
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use the Force will use the Force to go
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to sleep and think of quotes and thanks
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everybody out there for listening to be
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accountable
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this is jason still signing up will talk
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to you next time
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