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00:00:23 ◼   ► welcome back everybody to be [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► uncomfortable i'm your host Jason L were [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► here with another edition of our video [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► game club we do this from time to time [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► when there's a video game that's not too [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► hard so i can play it [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► joining me to talk about the video game [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► by danish studio play dead [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► called inside are the fine following [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► people [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► dan morgan hello hi good to be here on a [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► game related podcast it's good to have [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► you want a game related podcast from far [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► across the Atlantic Ocean it's james [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► thompson who really is the one who told [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► us we should play this game and then we [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► all played it I James well i hope you [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► liked it since this is all my fault [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► yeah pretty much your fault will let you [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► know by the end of the episode Tiffany [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► arm it is back again to talk about games [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► with us hello hey I'm ready [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► alright excellent now put listeners to [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► the accidental techie podcast know that [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► there was a lot of work to play that [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► game but you did it you did it that's [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► right it has been played an excellent [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► really played and of course who we [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► wouldn't talk about a video game without [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► John siracusa now when we hi John [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► excited to move from left to right [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► through this podcast yeah that's right [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► just keep holding the button down [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► alright so inside is a any it's a [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► side-scrolling platformer kind of game [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► bit but it's a it's got a lot of [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► interesting things about it i really [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► like that it is is short [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► among other things I I complain about [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► that a lot but i like that i can play a [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► game and get a story and have a really [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► nice experience without having to take [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► 30 hours or something like that because [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► I'm just never going to play those games [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► but inside was a game i could play from [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► start to finish and I really enjoyed it [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► spoiler alert we're not doing this [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► episode because i was met on it I i [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► enjoyed it [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► anybody have any opening statements i [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► just thought i would maybe ask about [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► this game just in case somebody maybe I [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► have some things to talk about in terms [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► of the gameplay before we talk about the [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► actual game but that's not an opening [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► statement so okay thats in this section [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► well I mean I think why I played the [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► game through yes and then immediately [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► wanted people to talk about the game too [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► so I convinced everybody else to play [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► and yeah it's taken us a little while [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► but I've been two months passed and do [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► you even remember the game now but [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► well thankfully through the magic of [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► YouTube i have rewatch somebody player [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► either but I did play three times as [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► well which does suggest that i probably [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► like two could be like to State for the [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► record that James did not make me play [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► it all right that's true i do not need [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► to be coerced I knew this game was [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► coming out i know i was gonna play it [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► yeah i was a I was excited to play it so [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► we should say so inside from play dead [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► it is now available on xbox one and [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► playstation 4 and of course you can also [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► play it on windows using a Windows PC or [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► you know boot camp if you want to [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► install it anyway [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► uh-huh that's why ATP listeners so I'm [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► the the truce the true sadness here is [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► Mark going to have a playstation 4 and [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► they could have just waited and played [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► it but instead [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► that's not what happened i have an xbox [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► one so i was able to play it in July on [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► vacation so I would have been too late [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► yeah that's true that's true good point [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► good point so it's out its out there for [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► your for your current generation [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► platforms and also pc gamers so there's [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► ways to play it now i do want to say it [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► was kind of nice playing on a laptop [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► though because it was very intimate your [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► dark we had headphones on [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► oh yeah i think that if there's a whole [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► atmosphere situation with this game that [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► I don't you get yourself immersed in it [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► as much as possible you're going to have [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► a much better experience and I feel like [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► the vastness of it i guess on like a big [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► screen like on a television screen would [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► kind of take away from the creepiness of [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► the game when you're just like staring [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► into the portal up a tiny laptop on your [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► lap with your headphones on and you're [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► like really like this really engulfed in [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► the game [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► well also i couldn't identify that those [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► little things were chickens right to [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► stop was like what are those little [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► things and then I saw a screenshot later [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► that's all they look like chickens [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► they're so cute understand experience [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► playing like I moved my playstation 4 to [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► my to a gaming monitor instead of a [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► television for burning reasons but not [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► one occasionally when i move it back to [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► the television a lot of the games that I [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► play I realized you're so far away i [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► mean i guess i should do the math on the [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► angles and see what it's like but when [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► i'm playing destiny for example i want [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► to be able to see like every pixel of [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► the the person's head way far in the [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► distance and when i'm sitting on my [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► couch 10 feet away from ITV I can't [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► so there is something to that [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► like is this a pc game or is it a [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► console game I mean I i also played on [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► the playstation 4 but sitting two feet [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► away from my monitor i played it so it [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► really helps to be able to see the fine [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► details in the game like this that is [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► almost kind of I don't know if it's not [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► made for consoles but it's made with the [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► expectation that you're going to be able [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► to discern that those things were [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► chickens because you'll be able to see [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► all the little pixel I played it on xbox [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► on a giant TV and I I thought it was [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► fine but maybe that's just me and my [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► young man eyes [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► yeah it also depends on your distance [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► your distance from the TV because of [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► your if you have his TV the same size as [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► yours but you're 20 feet away its way [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► different [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► this is kind of like the game equivalent [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► of reading a book under the covers [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► you know it was like all huddled up with [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► your flashlight i tried to put a blanket [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► over my TV and my couch it did not go [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► well just build a fort and then play the [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► video i did play the bulk of this game [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► when my family was not in the house and [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► the lights were off and I did start on [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► it on the chair that's about six or [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► eight feet away from the TV and but for [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► the bulk of it I was either sitting on [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► the coffee table right in front of the [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► TV or standing right in front of the TV [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► with my headphones on playing the game [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► for most of it so it was definitely that [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► was the sort of experience that I felt [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► like it demanded John you want to talk [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► about gameplay before we get into like [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► plots and details like that i do i [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► forget if we ever had a gain an episode [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► about limbo but i think it's been [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► mentioned on the show before this is the [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► the game from the same developer prior [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► to this and limbo was another side [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► scroller thing where you control a [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► little boy moving from left to right [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► across the landscape that tries to kill [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► him in several different ways and that [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► game was sort of a you know a critical [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► darling of the sort of artsy fartsy type [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► of game because it was all silhouette [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► was all black like black silhouette [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► which is incredibly clever and I think [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► about this developer talk about a way to [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► save money on development was saying oh [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► no it's all for mood and artistic [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► reasons but if you can do everything a [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► silhouette boy that really must say VIN [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► development cost anyway it was very [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► moody and atmospheric and it was too d [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► in this game if you look at you like wow [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► this is like a similar type of game [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► engine but so much more accomplished [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► artistically but it's still too d you're [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► still moving from left to right and [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► there is no point in the game in which [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► you have any sort of control to go into [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► or out of the screen and yet the screen [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► in this game is not a bunch of cardboard [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► cutout silhouettes [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► you can see things that are farther into [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► the screen than your character and [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► closer to you within your character but [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► you can interact with them and not only [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► that this game also twist the axis as it [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► follows you so it's not as if the camera [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► stays fixed a longer track you're going [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► from left to right and many levels your [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► character actually is walking sort of [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► into the screen a little bit not under [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► your control but just because the [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► scenery is shifting and the camera is [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► shifting so i think that is the first [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► degree of difficulty of this game is it [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► is it is a more sophisticated complex [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► game than limbo because you're not [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► strictly in 2d but i think especially [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► for people probably not on this podcast [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► but all the people i've talked to who [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► are not avid gamers who play this [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► specific game are very confused and [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► frustrated by what they can and can't [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► interact with even though it's very [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► clear if you've played any sort of these [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► games 120 I see what kind of game it [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► says the idea that you can't touch that [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► crate because it's three inches to your [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► to your put player characters left but [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► that when you click and sometimes you [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► walk in front of something but i just [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► walked in front of that if i go up to it [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► and hit the the action button how am I [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► supposed to pull the last time I ran [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► right in front of her right behind it or [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► why am I in front of this is why am i [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► behind that what are the rules [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► surprisingly i'm assuming we'll find out [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► no one here at any difficulties with [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► that but almost every person i talked to [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► who is not heavily into games found this [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► one extra sophistication over limbo to [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► be baffling like a like a local I can [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► handle left to right things are in front [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► of you sometimes kind of dark and you [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► can't tell you can pick up a stick but [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► everything is in the same plane and now [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► they added multi-plane and they have [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► gone past the skills of a bunch of [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► average people which I find a little bit [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► a little bit of maybe of a misstep in [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► this game but the payoff people who know [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► anything about games i think it's [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► tremendous because this game looks [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► amazing it plays amazing once you accept [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► the premise is just a little bit weird [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► to me that they made a 2-d game with all [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► sorts of 3d stuff that we all accept [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► that we just can't touch it's like pho [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► 3d I mean obviously it's really 3d and [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► the engine like that's why I'm sure but [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► my point from our from our interactions [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► standpoint it's you know it's 3d when it [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► suits are essentially yeah it's [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► sometimes it's like set dressing to me [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► sometimes I feel like it is part of the [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► atmosphere and you're not meant to [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► interact with its ok there are times [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► when it's hard to read whether something [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► is set dressing and [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► but I guess I just sort of internalized [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► that's part of the game is that a thing [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► I can interact with no is that a thing I [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► can interact with oh yes and and you [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► know that's part of the you know there [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► are sort of 18 objects in this room and [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► you need to figure out what the five [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► things are two things or the one thing [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► is that you need to interact with and [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► that's just kind of part of the [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► challenge of it but I did notice that [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► there are moments when you think to [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► yourself [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► logically I need to be able to come [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► toward the screen or go away from the [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► screen but I can't do that [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► so what happens now and that i did find [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► myself you know it was never a real [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► impediment or less serious impediment [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► but it did happen where i would i would [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► momentarily be like is it trying to [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► trick me it will be or because we're [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► side-scrolling here right heat it did [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► happen i actually found that it kind of [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► funneled you very very carefully kind of [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► like up it just it guided you gently [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► into the gameplay i don't know i just [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► felt like it was pretty natural [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► especially when in the very beginning [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► when that car is coming and you kind of [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► duck underneath the the cliff where at [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► first you don't think that you can do [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► that because the whole time you're just [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► kind of walking through the woods [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► walking through and then you know [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► there's some up and downs but then when [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► the car comes across the road and you [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► need to double back and hide underneath [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► the rock [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► I felt that was so natural and then [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► watching my husband play it he did the [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► same thing like just naturally as kind [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► of like a an element you're like oh [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► someone's coming let me hide under here [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► and you could so I don't know I feel [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► like a lot of the spots that you could [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► interact they did a a really beautiful [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► seamless way of kind of demonstrating [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► that to you that these are the parts [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► you're going to be interacting with and [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► I thought that kind of made the [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► flawlessness of the gameplay really [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► great for me i don't know i didn't have [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► I just I really enjoyed it i thought it [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► you know it kind of it kind of like gave [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► you a creepy hug [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► I don't know how late it without it was [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► just it was just really nice feeling [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► that it made you feel good about your [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► accomplishments and figuring out what [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► you can do in the game without directly [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► showing you you know blazing let me [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► highlight this thing [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► that you need to interact with so it [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► lets you feel smart but the same time it [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► didn't make you feel so dumb that you [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► couldn't figure it out yeah there's a [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► sense of satisfaction with the puzzles i [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► think you know from mechanical aspect [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► with paint a standpoint there's a fairly [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► limited number of options that you can [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► do this stuff we're talking about like [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► your kind of kind of on rails right like [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► not exactly but with the whole 3d thing [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► but you're kind of on rails and so you [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► know you get into situations where it's [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► like well there's a limited number of [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► things that I can do in a little limited [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► number of objects at my disposal and [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► that really i think is tiff said does a [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► nice job of guiding you gently towards [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► ok how can you combine these elements [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► based on what you've learned right and [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► and then synthesized from that the [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► course of action and how do you like to [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► take this to the step that you need to [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► get to and some of it is trial and error [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► right like I don't you die a lot earlier [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► i died a lot i feel like the margin of [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► error is really nice to win this game i [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► think the balance of it of it being just [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► close enough that you know you didn't [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► like you just missed something or you [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► just miss near death but it gave you [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► like you did maybe you didn't hit the [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► button at the exact second but yet you [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► survived that so it wasn't so i need to [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► play this section over and over and over [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► again in order to hit it exactly precise [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► in order to succeed it kind of gave you [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► a stumbling moment I guess you would [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► call it that's kind of how I perceived [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► it and that it just it it worked out and [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► unless you did it really terrible you [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► know then you may have to do it again [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► but I don't know I felt but at the same [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► time it didn't make you feel like you [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► were just being pushed through the game [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► it's not even ashamed either write like [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► it's not right and I think we're saying [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► like it's not like oh yeah you have to [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► be super there are parts that require [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► some liked which reflect there are a [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► couple places there i feel that you need [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► to hit it exactly right but mostly it is [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► forgiving and I think the ramp-up them [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► to tips point about how it sort of gives [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► you that creepy hug at the beginning it [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► is a slow ramp-up I know as somebody [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► who's not a super expert game player for [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► me I felt like it was welcoming in that [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► way that you figure things out and and [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► it gets it gets a little harder as it [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► goes but it is a kind of a gentle ramp [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► up and [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► and overall I don't feel like I ever [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► felt like the game was too hard at any [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► point i enjoyed the whole thing but I [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► never felt like I was challenged by the [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► mechanics of it was really more just [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► figuring out what the puzzles work there [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► was a couple of points in it for me [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► I think generally dying to diving on the [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► DOL's that what you're using where I had [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► to do a number of times but i just i [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► looked back at limbo just to get an idea [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► of what that was like [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► and I i think the this is easier than [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► limbo the puzzles didn't seem as obscure [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► like things seem to make sense and i was [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► looking at limbo and I was thinking if [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► limbo is golf Mario this is super golf [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► Mario's and also this has the advantage [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► of no gigantic terrifying spiders and I [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► didn't like how you could definitely see [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► we're in limbo they took this game where [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► they took limbo and they were looking at [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► it and they're like we made this cool [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► little thing check this out and then [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► it's like oh this little part of that [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► game that's really cool let's make an [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► entire world kind of based on that and I [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► feel like it's those little parasites [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► that get in the little guy's brain you [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► know and make him do things and I feel [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► like maybe a universe of course [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► yeah i mean like they saw that you're [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► like okay this is what's going to be its [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► whole cool thing that we can make into [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► an entire universe and I thought that [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► was great and more money now [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► am I the only one who didn't play limbo [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► just out of curiosity you should play [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► because I played a little bit of it but [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► i haven't played the whole thing I think [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► James says right limbo requires as [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► tougher sections amanda gets to the [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► point where you have harder you know [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► what you have to do but the hand-eye [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► coordination required is a little bit [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► harder than this [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► the puzzles are probably equal [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► difficulty in terms of like I figuring [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► out what you have to do but in limbo [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► towards the end you know what you have [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► to do when you die maybe fifty percent [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► more times before you get an [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► accomplished and yeah you if you if you [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► play this person is kind of a shame to [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► go back and play limbo because the [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► progression is so great from limbo to [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► this because I just feel like this is [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► limbo with tons more money and more [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► experienced thrown into it and it's like [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► yes more of that like I love limbo and I [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► like this even more because it's better [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► and everyone every way you can make em [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► better [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► this game is better difficulty curve [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► graphically times a thousand [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► yeah it is it is yeah I a couple more [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► comments on on the beginning part like [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► because what it was saying like this [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► game like all the all great games speaks [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► to the player in the level in in the [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► language of game design and if you are [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► at all receptive to that language if you [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► understand any few words in that [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► language it will speak to you and lead [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► you to the experience that that I think [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► we all had at the beginning of the game [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► where you're like alright amazing into [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► it huh never played this game before but [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► I'm figuring out the rules of the game [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► play and what I can do and where I can [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► go about your first task in this [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► side-scrolling game is run write your [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► first task just go right go to the right [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► it's like I thought it was very nice [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► very gentle like start with going right [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► that's that all you wanted was Johnny [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► beginnings and then you have to jump [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► exactly right but but but not like see [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► here's the thing if the game is speaking [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► to you as you run you see how you [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► interact with a serious you learn that [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► you can't go into her out of the screen [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► you'll learn what is an obstacle and [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► what is not an obstacle when you get up [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► to like that first part where you have [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► to backtrack are you have to like but [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► wait i'm going over here what if i go [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► back when I go behind the car or in [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► front of the car like it it doesn't such [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► and such a nice ramp but I think as it [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► is with like if you're designing a piece [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► of software humbling it is to put your [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► put the thing that you've made in front [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► of somebody who doesn't share the same [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► sort of mental model of how it's [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► supposed to work if you watch someone [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► who doesn't under who understands too [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► little of the language of game design [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► and you put them in front of this game [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► and you watch them flounder and fail to [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► have the moments that we were having on [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► the very very first five minutes of this [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► game and they're just they don't know [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► what to do [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► they don't understand how their [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► character work to the world and it seems [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► unfair that they're getting caught or [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► captured shot with a dark or anything [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► like that it can just be crushing to see [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► how how they keep the Sandcastle just [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► falls down to dust if you're just [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► missing a little bit about even to the [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► point where even people who understand [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► the game design and played a lot of [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► games like there will be a red handle on [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► the screen like it's literally painted [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► red but because the red is slightly dim [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► because this is a cream [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► the game they won't see it maybe like [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► this is impossible what should i do [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► they'll be a spotlight in the game [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► shining on a red handle and on that [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► screen where nothing else is read [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► everything else is great and they won't [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► see it and that's what crushes me about [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► games like this and why I'm always [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► cautious about recommending them even [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► things like journey like should you know [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► if this is a game you play you don't [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► even need to know anything about games [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► not challenging the difficulty levels in [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► there but like but everything is a [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► continuum and what you guys are saying [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► is like that the puzzles you know seem [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► just right and they weren't to mean [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► anything like that for me I felt like a [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► couple of the puzzles at most of the [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► puzzles off-site in this game [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► i didn't spend a lot of time dying [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► because i would look at the screen and [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► realize what they're trying to get me to [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► do and do it on the first try and that [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► felt a little bit like not gonna say [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► like oh you're just you're just pressing [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► from left to right and going through a [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► movie because it was there were a few [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► parts that were challenging but I want [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► to die at least one or two or three [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► times and I felt like there are a couple [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► few puzzles because I played limbo that [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► I like even before the screen loaded my [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► god there's gonna be a ice cream three [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► screens for now we're gonna have 2x I [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► load that screen like get this is that [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► matter that feels kind of good but on [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► the other hand like oh you know you had [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► there has to be a match between the game [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► and and the player and I think this is [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► this game reaches abroad amount of [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► players but it's always a continuum and [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► I are you know this is looking for that [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► idea of the game that everybody can play [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► and everybody can enjoy but it i think [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► it just doesn't exist because the great [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► experience were all having speaking to [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► this game and like have everything flow [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► together if that doesn't happen for you [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► it just becomes a beautiful but [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► frustrating screensaver [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► how long did everybody wait for that [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► first car with the lights in the woods I [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► think before you actually decided to [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► cross it's be gonna be gonna be bold [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► I waited for a while mike is gonna drive [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► away unwanted he keeps the Crouch [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► animation so the language of game design [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► there is when i start to move up he's [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► maintaining the Crouch that shows that [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► this is like a stealth section i have to [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► sneak past enough to worry about cares [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► if he's another beast if he didn't stay [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► in the crash withstood bolt upright then [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► yea though I felt like what I got but [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► and at that point we don't know anything [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► about the story which is actually one of [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► things i do want to talk about when we [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► talk about the story here I just one [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► more thing about gameplay III as [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► somebody I mean I John i agree with you [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► as somebody who is not a a prolific [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► gamer [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► at all I thought this game was maybe a [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► little too easy for me and that's saying [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► if it was too easy for me it should [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► probably be harder but at the same time [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► I did find great joy in the fact that [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► even though there were screens where I [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► really didn't need to do anything other [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► than run and jump that idea i enjoyed [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► that I i like the balance of it that I [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► although i did die of a few times not [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► not not like dozens but you know ten [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► times or 15 times in the in the in the [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► pace of it and I did have some like [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► three or four places where I i really [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► need to like shut it off shut off the [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► console and come back later with fresh [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► eyes to see what I was missing I mostly [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► I didn't have to do that and i just got [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► to have the experience so I would you [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► know that that's nice in the sense that [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► you don't get frustrated and feel like [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► abandoning it at the same time you know [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► maybe that when i was done i thought to [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► myself maybe that was a little bit a [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► little bit that wasn't quite enough [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► resistance that there a need to be a [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► little bit harder but you're right for [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► everybody that level is going to be [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► drawn somewhere different and the reason [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► this is a great game is because even if [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► i call these puzzles are too easy i know [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► just what to do the reward from just [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► looking at the screen agree just like [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► watching control like it is such a [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► beautiful young to look at so many [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► beautiful tiny you know details and [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► every animation and how the character [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► moves and slides his body between things [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► and yanks off the slide just it's just [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► so rewarding [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► even when you know exactly what to do i [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► agree and and up to the point where I [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► think the hardest puzzle hand-eye [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► coordination wise in the game was the [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► the moving blast shield thing right [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► um and that one that someone for the [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► probably takes people to the most tries [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► and that one which I wish there was more [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► puzzle like that but that one they they [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► added a musical reward with you really [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► wasn't there for most the other [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► challenge will see the challengers once [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► you figure what to do when you do it [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► nothing really happens but in this one [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► once you've figured out and are on your [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► way to solving it there's a music cue [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► and you just feel like a champion you're [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► like finally there was a hard puzzle and [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► I figured out what to do in 22 tries and [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► took me two more tries to pull it off as [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► soon as I did the music played that's [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► that's that's good game design i didn't [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► want more things like that i felt like [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► that was the perfect amount for me [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► because it just it makes me angry it [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► makes me anxious like AI get especially [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► because [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► the end like you're saying the art so [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► good but some of that also comes into [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► how they use that to 22 unsettling [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► effect right which i'm sure we'll talk [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► about a little bit in the story stuff [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► but like the is some of the death [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► animation [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► yeah i was her Savior might last into [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► oblivion and lots of my god have on the [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► whole game exactly car pretty does it [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► does it does it not like does not just I [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► had a visceral reaction like oh my god [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► like you know when that happened and I [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► like I mean I i think i like laughed but [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► nervously after that because it's sort [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► of like it is it's got a weird sort of [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► darkly funny but also incredibly [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► disturbing aspect to it and it really [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► unsettled now let's limbo to ya I mean [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► especially since it's basically a child [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► but the angry pieces one of the things I [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► wanted to say was that that the sort of [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► production values on this are really [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► high much higher than limbo but it it [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► took them six years to make her believe [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► because they started it just after they [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► finished limbo now it's and it's like a [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► small team I think it was 24 limbo and I [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► think they're up to 25 or something at [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► this point but yes there are two hours [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► they were six years [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► yeah well it shows up in the Polish [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► there like everyday after look at this [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► game and find where where do you see a [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► clipping artifact where you see a right [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► action where do you see a bomb animation [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► like everything is perfect in this game [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► and the sound was so great [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► did anyone else playing headphones i did [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► for some of it i played a bit in [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► headphones oh it just sounds incredible [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► in headphones I just feel like it just [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► it swallows you up and it just puts you [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► right there it the little nuances to his [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► breathing and the different sounds of [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► his feet make on everything like it was [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► just it was beautiful it was so great i [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► saw a comment from the guy who did the [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► music who apparently for part of the [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► sort of audio sound of it piped the [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► score through a human skull party said [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► his Danish denmark everybody yeah extra [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► and settle down thanks let's uh ok let's [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► talk about the story will fire up the [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► spoiler horn now just because you know [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► what you should play this game and not [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► know all the surprises because i went in [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► where with James saying it's great you [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► should play it I'm not going to even [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► tell you what it's about don't find out [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► just go play it and I am I appreciated [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► James is wise advice so I give that [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► advice no to you you should go play it [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► and when you're done come back and [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► listen to the sound after the spoiler [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► horn [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► alright spoiler warning study should [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► insert the sound of the giant explosion [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► seven spoiler-free my washi of that [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► giant explosion I would that's my [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► favorite character in all game now for I [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► mean I said that because when I went [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► into the game [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► I didn't know anything about it and I [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► didn't know if it was set in the real [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► world or what time period i know right [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► thing and so that the initial section [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► where you've got you know yes or going [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► through a forest and then you see trucks [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► and it's like well as trucks look you [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► know they could be sort of modern-day [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► they could be slightly earlier but they [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► they look like Earth trucks and this is [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► enough forest yes there's a dogs and [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► arms and and it all seemed very kind of [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► you know just sort of normal is not the [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► right word but you know for that sort of [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► like 5-10 minutes [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► yeah you know I was thinking is this [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► like some World War two setting is the [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► sum you know something like that and so [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► going into it not knowing anything [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► especially not knowing what happens [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► later on it [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► just getting that experience of it [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► getting increasingly crazier and crazier [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► as as the game progressed I thought was [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► very good you makes me think of black [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► mirror it's like a video game version of [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► a black mirror episode better look like [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► Mary because it has a better ramp up to [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► the crazy and that by the way that's the [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► rate you're thinking of design a game [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► that's the direction should go it should [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► be increasing amounts of absurdity oh [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► yeah I'm insanity as the game goes on a [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► boy is this game deliver everything that [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► that's that's what I wanted to say is [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► that I going back to saying like even if [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► the even if I could play through without [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► dying it would have been a wonderful [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► journey [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► the thing about it is that really sets [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► it apart from a lot of games I play this [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► every few levels every 20 minutes or so [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► there would be something where I'd be [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► like what is happening right like a [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► moment of our perception shift and [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► that's in the storytelling the fact that [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► we start knowing nothing and you keep [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► asking yourself at least I did I assume [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► everybody does this is going on here [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► what is going on it i was thinking did [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► the kid run away and then I'm thinking [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► did the kid escaped from prison or [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► confinement in some way and and and [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► that's where i start with it and it's [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► like yes these trucks are the the [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► trucks from the you know it's the pits [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► the police from a prison or whatever and [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► it's the trucks that are I don't even [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► know what the story is but I'm trying to [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► piece it together and they're like [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► setting dogs on him and liked i know [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► right um and all of its like it's just [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► darker and darker why won't he go laughs [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► haha if he wasn't at first you think [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► like he's trying to get out from the [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► inside and just finally realized that he [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► is going to the inside for a game called [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► inside you to spend a lot of the outside [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► let's talk about this journey that this [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► taken because this this boy that you [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► control as a player he starts out sort [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► of on a run from guards and dogs and [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► cars and and all of that and then and [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► then you cross a road and then things [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► start to change and the story you end up [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► there's a there's a farmer which seems [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► kind of pleasant at first although top [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► for while the dead pics before you get [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► to the farm all take part and then there [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► were dead pigs [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► you know I think the salient point is [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► when you when you start this game as you [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► have a little boy you realize you have [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► to write this immediately [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► everything in this game is trying to [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► trying to get the boy whether it's to [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► kill him or to incapacitate him like [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► like limbo like the first thing you [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► learn this game is that the world is not [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► your friend [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► the people in the world are not your [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► friends I hit the dogs in the world are [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► not your friends that people are looking [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► at you and you're under the water like [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► the environment just everything and so [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► that is the overwhelming all these games [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► like you are pursued you are you are [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► costed the world is against you that you [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► are fleeing it is not fight or flight [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► it's mostly flight and everything in the [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► world is out to get you and the world [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► doesn't look too Pleasant even the dead [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► pig farm it's rainy and overcast and [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► that's the part 2 where it starts making [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► you wonder since you are you know [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► immersion this character and you give [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► them what agency they have when it comes [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► time to start making choices about doing [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► things I always felt a little [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► trepidatious because i didn't want it [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► like I think the first thing I'm [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► thinking of is never seen in the farm [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► where you have to like put the chicks in [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► like a machine [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► yeah that's the first I'd say difficult [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► puzzle in terms of having to realize [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► what you have to do which is you have to [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► throw chickens in that in that giant [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► blower [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► have them blown out and I really thought [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► it was gonna grind the music so that's [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► gonna do it [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► John you beat the puzzle but did not [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► pass the void content know as I expected [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► a little chicken bits to go out and hit [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► the little thing like you can see where [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► they were going about this game is good [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► about showing like look here's an inlet [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► and there's dust on the ground you can [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► see it's sucking even before you put in [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► there you know this is fucking things up [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► and where the things that suck up come [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► out they come out there that is aimed [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► right at block mechanically yes I [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► understand that but I didn't want to do [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► it you don't want to kill the chicken i [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► also didn't want to do it i mean at this [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► point I didn't know that they were [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► chickens so only find out how relatively [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► recently guys I feel terrible like that [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► I've killed so many zombies and people [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► in all kinds of things in games and I'm [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► like whatever move on and like that one [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► little dead chick out it would crush me [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► please the chicks don't have the law of [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► parasites coming out of their heads like [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► all the pigs [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► yeah they're so cute PP just want to [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► follow you [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► I I wasn't sure of the the physics or [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► indeed the ethics of firing the chicks [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► have a to make it fall off I mean the [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► physics are dubious there but the [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► gameplay were all that make sense yeah [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► yeah but there's like 20 of them i don't [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► have much that would weigh and how much [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► of a love/hate way p equals angry there [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► they shoot out at high speed [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► that was the that was the one basic [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► physics in the game that was sort of I [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► wasn't entirely sure about and [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► everything else the physics all seem to [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► feel right [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► yeah but yes only worked and it knocks [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► the bale of hay off and only one chick [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► dies and i think that's sort of that [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► happens to everyone [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► it's not like there's something you [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► could have done a timing slightly [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► differently and save that chick I think [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► it's just showing you the stakes if [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► being ripped apart yeah dogs make an [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► omelet you gotta break some chicks [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► yeah Oh John so like the threats or [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► story-wise if you know this is from [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► limbo and you played limbo and you [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► wander past pig and the pigs have these [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► little Wiggly parasites you may be [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► thinking like tippers [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► uh yeah this this developer lovely [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► parasites coming out of things like you [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► might just think it's a weird [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► coincidence but you move on because they [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► don't they don't emphasize that much of [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► that point you do wrangle the pig who is [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► mad with the parasites and yank the [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► parasite out of the pig and the pink its [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► normal again [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► but still you're not quite sure where [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► the story is going other than I am [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► fleeing the world is against me [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► this is not seem like a nice place to [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► live that this might be part of the not [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► sitting close to the TV thing but I [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► wasn't sure what the pig if he yanked a [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► parasite or he pulled its tail off [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► yeah me too Taylor and grant slimy yeah [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► that color blind and my class not an [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► example game didn't see green but it was [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► it was glowing and wiggling after you [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► pulled it out of you know the magic [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► pigtail what are you talking about [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► well I don't know oh no did something to [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► the pig we don't know the rules of this [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► world I mean I know chickens running [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► around when you cut their heads off but [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► I don't know pigtail still wiggle butt [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► but then he drags the pig backwards and [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► it doesn't seem to be particularly [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► wanting to be dragged and I'm gonna be I [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► just looked like he pulled his tail off [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► and was manhandling it or pick handling [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► it back into position around about this [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► time is also the time when the first [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► secret start appearing did any of you on [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► your first or subsequent playthroughs [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► pursue secrets or religious I'm [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► different view of the man last time yeah [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► I seriously got yellow cords that lead [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► to the orbea right again the language of [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► gameplay it is a giant yellow line in a [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► game where nothing else is brightly [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► colored good acted but it's a little bit [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► dim so sometimes people don't see it but [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► me Marco miss them completely [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► yeah I don't see I only found a couple [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► and I did not pursue I pursued a couple [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► and I think there are others where I was [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► you know should I go and look at this [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► thing or is that distraction from where [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► I'm trying to go you know right that's [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► two different types of play people that [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► people do right it's either like plow [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► through and let me see what's going on [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► and not go to all the little side things [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► or you kind of like scavenge around and [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► open every box and you know just depends [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► on how you want to play [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► yeah until I knew what kind of game this [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► was I was pursuing the secrets as a [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► matter of course in terms of I can tell [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► when the game I could tell when there [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► was an option to go left the game on me [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► to go right and that of course means [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► that there's a secret left but i didn't [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► know if that was going to be essential [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► for gameplay until I found the first few [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► with the orbs and then I said alright [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► these are all obviously optional extras [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► and their the yellow cords and really [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► for the first playthrough i just want to [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► see everything but the pig section 1 of [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► the orbs is you end up inside a barn you [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► see a huge number of other pigs and now [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► it is i did find out one of the first [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► playthrough on like this is a pig focus [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► the game consists of a lot of things [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► like there was a there was a bunch of [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► dead pigs pigs in a cart there was a pic [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► i had to battle with her now the secret [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► is in a room with like hundreds of pigs [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► pigs in a blanket [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► I mean this is not yeah i mean that that [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► that whole sexually we jump off the top [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► of the bomb had the only way to survive [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► is to land in the box of pigs [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► you know i mean it's it's like a sort of [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► weird the pig focus essence cream haha [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► there was a lot of detail put into some [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► of the places that you never ever go to [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► like when sometimes when you fall down a [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► couple of the alleys or your you know [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► you go in a different direction it's the [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► wrong way there is a lot of intricate [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► detail like drawn into those scenes that [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► I was I was always were a little worried [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► about getting lost two and so I felt [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► like okay I want to come back and check [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► this out but i also want to like move on [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► and solve the puzzles so i'm not really [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► sure right we're going to do these [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► things i think most of the secrets for [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► fair there was only two I had to look up [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► on the internet on my second playthrough [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► because I couldn't figure out one of [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► them I was right in front of and hydras [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► just doing the wrong thing which I think [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► it's perfectly fine for a secret because [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► they're optional extras and the other 1i [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► just plain missed entirely so that one [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► on the beach with all the dogs that was [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► brutal to get through just for that [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► you're my favorite how's my favorite 1i [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► want to watch mice i watch my son play [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► that I'm familiar with the secret is [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► that you're going through it and there's [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► a torch on the wall which you haven't [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► seen any place else in the entire me [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► never seen a torch and when you walk [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► past it [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► the little boy's head turns and looks up [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► at the torch like it's the most like the [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► game screaming to you [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► hey torch this is probably important i [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► watch my son play he ran right past 18 [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► by dogs over and over again that's the [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► Syracuse of parenting style son eaten by [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► dogs they might as well had starburst [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► coming out of the thing and he's like [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► well this isn't fair i mean by the dogs [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► like starch touch it was a fun i did [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► anybody spot the trapdoor in the [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► cornfield and that's part of the secret [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► switch well yes I know but it was like [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► as I was running through that I can't [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► see how you could have seen it unless [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► there was a big color thing that I [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► didn't see but if you enter the [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► cornfield and are thinking to yourself [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► this cornfield has a lot of foreground [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► plains of [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► animation going by this is probably [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► where they had a secret and you [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► especially at the action button every [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► two feet [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► that's enough it was pretty beautiful [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► running through those cornfields oh that [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► one yeah I love that agree that at least [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► doping chase but cakes [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► alright so one of the one of the first [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► real kind of gasp moments happens when [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► you end up so there are places we have [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► to climb right so you you jumping up to [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► climb on a rope or a chain or something [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► like that and there's a moment where [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► there's something that looks like maybe [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► it's something that you can climb and [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► you jump up and instead what happens is [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► you kind of your head kind of goes in [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► this cap thing thats hanging down it [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► looks like it might be a light or [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► something but it's not bad it's a thing [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► that goes on your head [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► what you think he is when i first did I [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► thought of you have to like swing-off [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► yeah yeah that was it i was jumping up [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► in order to figure to climb or swing on [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► this thing and instead my the top of the [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► the head goes right in the little the [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► little dome of the thing and something [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► amazing happens which is it turns on a [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► remote control and and these uh zombie [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► guys basically they arise and begin [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► walking under your command and it's a [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► moment where you think to yourself [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► whoa whoa what just happened what is [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► this game that I'm playing now it's a [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► completely different mechanic then I [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► expect and that would that was my first [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► incredibly memorable moment of that this [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► game is more than I thought it was going [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► to be I think I gasped audibly oh yeahh [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► two more yeahh up for this start [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► okay i'm going to put my uh that's weird [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► oh my god and your little feet your [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► little feet move as you hang there too [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah great and it [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► was very well designed to get you to do [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► that exactly know so that your head [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► because it's lit up it's the only thing [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► that's lit up with this specific [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► signature color of yellow yellow ones [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► are and ride that will see you again [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► later like there's such a clear visual [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► language design because everything is so [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► muted everything in the game has a color [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► and a purpose and even though there's [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► like a haze of like low-contrast over [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► the entire game you can still pick out [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► the different things in different color [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► coding of everything that's involved [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► it's almost like you know we know that [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► that's going to the first time for the [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► game but you know you want it [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► and you don't even know what you want [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► because nothing really for you to swing [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► too but this is the puzzle you have to [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► actually like use the report pig is like [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► a as a thing to jump up on or whatever [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► like it's a surprising number of steps [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► because at this point you're immersed in [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► the game you like that thing is [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► different than everything else I've seen [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► this game so far and i'm going to get to [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► that thing and yet when the animated [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► corpses come up same deal I got just a [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► giant smile on the face like oh so [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► that's how it's gonna be huh [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► it's just such a great moment where you [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► really and and then you realize now I'm [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► steering this and yes the little legs [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► are kind of twitching on the boy as he [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► he's walking around these guys and then [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► you realize they're out [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► yeah and and you realize that this is [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► this is your new set of puzzles is how [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► do you steer these people to do what [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► what you need them to do to solve the [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► puzzle and now you've got sort of [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► multiple pieces that are solving the [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► puzzle simultaneously which is a the [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► whole time you're kind of like a [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► suspended mine [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► yeah i'm not sure what the actual [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► in-game justification for having this [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► like mind control helmet stuck in the [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► middle of nowhere they keep a beat CD [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► use them to command the workers to do [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► that exactly it's it's how they get how [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► one person can control bunch of people [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► to accomplish just that one person [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► couldn't command command control yeah i [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► mean i play somebody for game design why [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► do they always create surrounded by all [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► these rolling things on tracks and stuff [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► but the in-universe explanation like [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► this is a game it doesn't want to tell [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► you anything it's not going to cut seem [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► to explain to you the world you're just [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► gonna have to figure it out from seeing [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► the environments that support and you [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► just kind of have to subtract out the [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► gameplay parts of it and figure out what [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► is trying to tell you about this world [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► which is actually surprisingly difficult [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► this game is not interested in [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► completely explaining its world's you [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► it leaves a lot open to interpretation [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► but i think there's enough that bike [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► even the most absurd things start to [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► make sense in the universe as you play [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► through the game [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► yeah I feel like all the sound cues to [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► kind of tell you how you're supposed to [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► feel in these situations you know like [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► the the sound that comes in the pulse [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► kind of heartbeat rythm to the whole [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► thing it really guide you and in how [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► your spot like the amount of anxiety [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► you're supposed to feel at each turn or [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► if you're supposed to feel bad about [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► these guys because the first time you [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► control you pull you walking on some [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► golf legend he plops down the ground [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► then comes up and like it's clear that [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► you're not supposed to feel too bad [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► about the fact that you're hurling these [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► bodies in various scenarios and they're [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► pretty resilient than the end it's sort [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► of in comic for comic effect like one [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► guy is holding his head under his arm as [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► he runs around yeah he's a little worse [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► for wear but it's clear as you move [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► around like these are these are like [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► labor like animals and you're not [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► supposed to feel super good about that [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► but on the other hand you kind of need [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► them to solve the puzzle so it's a thing [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► is leading you to feel slightly [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► conflicted about the whole endeavor [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► until everything goes off the rails were [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► they people or would like to start with [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► who were like intelligent people who [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► were zombified or where they like that [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► grown as well they're all wearing [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► different clothes and the acid i think [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► if it was just your zombie workforce he [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► would you give them standard uniform and [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► sometimes hard hats and stuff they're [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► just funny for like one of those [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► carrying his head goes got a hard head [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► on it's like well what are we really [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► protecting here this is there are series [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► of puzzles that involve these army guys [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► too including ones where you have to you [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► know you have to get them in the right [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► places and you have to figure out like [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► they they slide you around on a track so [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► that you can move around and then you [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► have to get you have used them to place [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► you in the right place where that you [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► can go down and then move them to to [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► somewhere else and then move through [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► there's a series of those there's a [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► there's a UH one where it's chained [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► where you end up having to figure out [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► that there's a box that's got another [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► zombie guy in it and that if you jump [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► your zombie guy into another helmet then [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► that then you can chain react through [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► that helmet to the other zombie guy and [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► get him to do what you want and we have [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► to kind of enter into the nested [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► parentheses and then come back out one [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► of the time to solve the puzzle just a [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► whole bunch of interesting things that [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► happen is you're moving through this [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► factory or whatever it is with these [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► with these zombies guys just so creepy [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► and clever at the same time I love this [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► whole section of the game that didn't [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► that's the direction this could have [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► gone but didn't which is the nested [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► parentheses the first time that you know [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► they did that then like oh and I thought [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► I think I thought that I [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► it's other where this is going but then [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► I'm like no kiseki you know some games [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► like what is that game where you had the [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► the portal gun not portal that the [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► portal like game i can't remember name [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► amazing game grade confusing now an [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► upgrade there was there was a game with [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► like a portal gun where you can like [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► duplicate yourself and I was like okay [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► this is a fun way to solve platforming [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► puzzles where you can make a portal [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► Minister a duplicate of you comes out [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► and you teleport around but that game [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► took it to the extreme it's like Nessa [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► parentheses you haven't seen this the [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► parentheses in 20 layers deep was like [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► the swapper yes the swapper yes and that [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► you know this game could have done that [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► but it does it does the second level of [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► nesting and there's a musical cue for [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► the second loan nothing because if you [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► think about it too hard it's like wait [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► what am I even doing here I'm gonna find [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► the guy was controlling the guy was [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► controlling the guys but they never take [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► it like they never keep going with it [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► because they know it's that that's not [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► the kind of game they want to make you [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► take it just far enough to to like [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► tickle your mind and be like super [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► interesting but that's not the game [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► they're building where like by five [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► levels from now you're gonna be 17 [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► levels deep in mr. parentheses they [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► don't tend to repeat a lot of the puzzle [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► types in this I mean this is obviously [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► similar elements that come up but you [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► never really doing the same thing more [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► than one or two times [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► yeah they don't want to didn't want to [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► do it if they don't have a new idea then [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► have a new idea they don't do the old [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► back there more telling a story than [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► trying to make you feel like you can't [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► figure out this game you know sometimes [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► I feel like game makers are like I'm [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► gonna be way smarter than my player and [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► I'm gonna really mess them up and make [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► them work really hard for this and like [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► like a game like braid would do that [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► where I just feel like I don't want to [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► play anymore because it's making me feel [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► bad about myself [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► where is a game that lets you succeed [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► and get through and then be able to [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► enjoy the story and the beautiful art in [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► the beautiful music and the beautiful [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► sound like I feel like that that is a [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► different type of reward but I I'll I [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► appreciate that in this game that they [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► aren't trying to make you feel [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► inadequate when with the gameplay [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► getting so complicated they they hold [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► back and that they could so easily have [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► gone that way i feel like with this game [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► and they do want you to enjoy their new [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► ideas like when they have a new idea or [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► way we could have a guy who control the [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► guy who controls the guy they have the [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► idea they want you to enjoy it right [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► like just like you said like that nice [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► little tickle it makes you feel good it [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► gives you the endorphins that like rash [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► you want to get playing but yet it [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► doesn't take it so far that you're like [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► okay I this is beyond i'm done like [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► because once you get the reward from the [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► idea if they did it five levels deep [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► that you already got the benefit of that [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► you already got the benefit of a good [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► idea you got the fun gameplay you got [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► the clever you know twinkle in your eye [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► you got the smile you do it 17 levels [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► deep now you're just turning into a new [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► meta game which is really just figured [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► out how to get like you have already [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► seen that idea now what you're doing is [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► building on it and testing me and seeing [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► how well I can do it where is this thing [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► every puzzle they have here is like one [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► new idea top of even a simple as like [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► moving the crate they do like 17 [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► variations are moving to create starting [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► with the most simple just moving to [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► create to climb up something and like [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► the dumpster in the beginning they never [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► repeat them for the most part they say [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► we have one new idea you're gonna do it [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► once and then the next one is going to [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► be another new ideas sometimes they [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► build on each other or subvert the [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► previous one but never like okay so [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► you're going to move creates well here's [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► a room full of crates build the giant [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► pyramid in giza that's not what they're [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► into the game developers are flirting [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► with you that's what they're doing yeah [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► that the best way you had to pretend to [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► be a zombie [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► yeah so I thought that was a bad child [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► States welcome but it was only I think [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► about it was like three different three [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► maybe four different states that you had [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► to go through on that right and it's [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► like it's fairly obvious the rules just [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► looking at all those markings on the [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► ground clearly a you know I need to need [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► to jump when they're jumping then I need [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► to turn around and then I can't remember [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► what the other ones what was it just [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► walking jumping and turnaround yeah in [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► the right in the right rhythm and center [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► and then towards the end of it you have [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► to break you have to break from the [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► sequence you have to know when it's time [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► to leave the line because if you are [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► just like I have to stay very still or [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► they'll get me and you just a very [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► simple augenstein zone don't notice me [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► if I stay very still nope you gotta run [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► gotta know when to run dogs can tell [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► zombies [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► yeah but Kenny Rogers taught me that [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► John ya gotta know when to hold them [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► yeah almost things you gotta know [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► alright so that then we get to another [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► thing that happens which is the water [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► suddenly got there's a lot as the best [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► there's a lot of marine of water the [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► creepiest moment for me happen in the [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► water [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► Oh [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► yeah there's a lot of creepy moment [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► pressure that first moment when that the [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► shadow passes that the jumps here [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► totally got me [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► you know you're playing the game right [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► at that jump skip the jokes here doesn't [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► get you your not sufficiently immersed [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► in the game but that's why you have to [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► play on one sitting just imagine you [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► just picked it up after putting it down [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► like you know you just picked it up in [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► the first two minutes of gameplay you [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► got that that's not the way to do you [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► got to be like so into the game that you [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► can't even see the outside world and [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► that thing shoots by reminds me of the [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► similar thing that probably was supposed [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► to be jump-scare think i mentioned [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► before the little girl and ribbon when [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► she came on the screen after like [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► playing hours and hours of a game that [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► was basically it's like the sequel to [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► Myst you know a bunch of static screens [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► for the most part and the tiny animated [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► girl comes up I'd really hit the ceiling [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► was a little girl so scared [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► hey just don't know if this is a little [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► girl has long hair but you know if [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► you're under forgot time without your [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► clothes you could your hair grow like [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► but man that's awesome that just [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► inspires me to do so much fanart for [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► this like it's not love it's so creepy [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► it still gives me the chills [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► so I I don't know what you all call this [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► your adversary whoo-wee whoo-wee face at [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► many points in here i just called it [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► called it the mermaid creepy creepy [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► mermaid i had made as well I also said [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► not an adversary it's a friend some [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► misunderstanding it's always the most [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► evil scary mermaid but when she appears [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► and I was like oh she seems nice light [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► back it's a girl looks like a boy to me [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► well I thought it was a girl although [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► yeah I'm to later on this but I thought [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► it was about mate and then as I know she [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► seems nice maybe she's good like that [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► and it was started your summary breaking [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► through the window and the glass [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► cracking eventually yes I just the way I [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► was like all right you're not my friends [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► nothing is my friend this sound effect [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► of the water getting sucked in the glass [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► cracking cracking sound effects are [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► going to shrimp into it so good so [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► terrible i love them where he's looking [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► through the window and sees the one [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► floating like oh that's so so eerie ya [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► know and this is nothing but you know [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► they spent so much time to get just just [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► the right animations of the hair and the [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► body and the lighting effects with the [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► the light shining on them and you just [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► if you spend some time there and shine [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► the light on on that [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► well dude and watch like his animations [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► when the lights into space and the hair [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► waving around so incredibly well done [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► for a deeper just right it's simple it's [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► mostly like a plain background two [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► characters on screen one submarine but [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► such loving attention to detail and [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► every ounce of that animation that it [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► just it just feels so hold in part of [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► the world you gotta shine the light of [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► so you get the personal submarine and [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► and you have to learn that it can go up [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► and down it's got a light that you can [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► shine around and it's got a turbo [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► basically that you can you can do that [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► will slam into things and make your or [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► make you fly out of the water and you [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► you get you there are little simple [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► puzzles where you have to use all those [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► things but also you discovered that this [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► mermaid or whatever is a repelled by the [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► light so you're able to use that to kind [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► of get across and keep pushing it back [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► and then you have to get out at one [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► point swim and it chases you [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► it's very Street this is the most [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► stressful part of the game to me I felt [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► like absolutely scary mermaid was trying [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► to kill me but that's also some of the [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► best time to moments too and you're like [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► swimming and you're just about to get up [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► to those ropes like a little bit later [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► on and then she's like right there and [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► then she's not and then then she's right [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► there again soon as you're climbing out [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► of oh it's so well timed it just it [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► creates maximum anxiety you know if [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► we're going through those doors to like [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► get away and get the door closed in time [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► the big crushed by the doll and that's [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► some great well-timed gameplay to make [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► you feel like that and there's a thing [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► where like it prevents you from getting [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► bored because you're like oh now I see [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► another door all this is the same puzzle [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► again I just you know hit the switch and [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► go into the door i'll make it the last [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► minute because the game is designed for [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► me to make the last minute haha speed [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► romantic and you try to do it and you [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► die you wait a second I thought I [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► figured out this puzzle you gotta know [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► like that's not the way this game rolls [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► they're gonna do it slightly different [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► this time you can't do what you did last [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► time and make that because just when you [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► start to get bored with the carefully [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► orchestrated dramatic moment in the game [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► like oh yeah blah blah all do this and i [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► know i'll just make it the game says no [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► there's one more little thing you have [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► to learn this time at the switch first [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► then go back this time where the guy [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► back and then go for you know and every [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► every step it doesn't let doesn't repeat [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► the same puzzle exactly the same way and [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► it punishes you for thinking that the [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► game is not as good as it is because you [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► start to think the game is simple and [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► just play it like any old dumb game you [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► right terrible ways which is great I i [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► really like the the submarine and I was [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► quite sad when I thought we were leaving [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► it behind [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► oh yeah that's the best rewards use at [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► the end of the sublevel no it's not get [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► more whole bit more the submarine and [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► then then sadly you have to you know [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► when it i think it washes up on the [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► beach or something like okay then you [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► know it's time for you could shoot [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► yourself onto the beach it feels pretty [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► good [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► yeah I think I did that you're like yeah [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► nailed an attraction and love my little [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► sub that was another of these moments [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► where you know you get the submarine and [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► you sort of people around the submarine [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► and it's like oh this is another kind of [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► they might want to do a little separate [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► game and I was like no we will put the [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► ideas into this I just a and this is my [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► where I want pause and say we are now [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► talking about the stress of your driving [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► your cool submarine and maybe swimming [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► and you also to shine your light on the [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► murderous mermaid or it's going to get [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► you and i'll just point out this is the [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► same game that not too long ago you were [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► right you were running in a in a farm [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► and jumping on the back of a pig i spent [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► a lot of time trying to figure out what [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► the building is that you're going [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► through for a large portion of that yeah [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► there's a lot of the underwater part [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► whereas like feels like it's a school [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► almost like I kept thinking it look like [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► a high school or something like that [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► I don't know why it's just true maybe [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► that's just the anxiety triggers feet [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► because because you went to a flooded [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► high school obviously but that's the [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► best part about the water in this game [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► is that like you can tell that it's like [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► a drowned world like it's not just your [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► in an ocean or something you're so like [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► fart but yeah you go ahead and go under [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► there and you see like stairs and like [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► wait this is the building this is like [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► 43 of a building you're like how deep [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► does this go [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► you know that now that hole that's again [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► with the whole world thing like where am [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► I even that you said before like you [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► started outdoors you start to question [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► like what I outdoors and the giant dome [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► like The Truman Show like where is this [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► place why I shouldn't have filled with [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► water and are these dogs trying to kill [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► me all the time [TS]