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I'm your host Jason Snell and in this
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episode which is very exciting week we
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often will record far in advance and we
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talk about things that happened far in
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the past and I creates a timeless
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quality which is great because you can
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say hey go back and listen to episode 43
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and I don't even know which one that is
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and it'll be as just as timely today as
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it was back then and but we're going to
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do something a little more current which
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is we're going to talk about the
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guardians of the galaxy which just came
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out like a little more than a week ago
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as we record this and we're going to get
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out there are striking while the iron is
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mildly warm as opposed to the usual cold
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that it often is when we talk about
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works and joining me to talk about the
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latest Marvel spectacular film are a a
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lovely collection of people including
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but not limited to David J lower hi
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David all come on man star lure also
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joining us
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Monty Ashley oh yeah and then there's
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Tony sindelar i am tony and finally it's
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good to have her back
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serenity Caldwell hello hello I'm gonna
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try not to suck all the joy out of
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everything so also i'm in i'm informed
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that our episode 43 is about fringe
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which is currently streaming on netflix
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so it's totally totally relevant
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perfectly cromulent there you want to go
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listen to episode 43 so guardians of the
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this is
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yeah this is a fascinating film because
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it is a Marvel movie in the Marvel
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Cinematic Universe and yet with one
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character I think connecting it to the
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rest of everything that they've ever
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obviously there are comics of guardians
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of the galaxy that are connected in many
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different ways but this is a step
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outside of the comfort zone i think it
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would it would be safe to say for from
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Marvel it's a really different movie in
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terms of topic in terms of location in
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terms of tone and I thought we start
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there is just like how how different
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this movie is and how it feels like a
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very different kind of movie then say
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captain america or the Avengers yeah
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well it doesn't have the all of Marvel
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movies up to this point have had sort of
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the grounded of fantastic realism to
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them where it's the lake
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yes the comic book universe is a
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universe very similar to our own where
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it's possible for people to rise up and
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become greater than they are on whereas
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this film very much bucks that almost
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immediately
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Hey look at our are overly normal the
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first 10 minutes the movie without how
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much we always spoiler warning
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everything I let's so this is always a
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explore have horn philosophy 101 is
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where we are now I I'd say let's listen
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maybe keep it light on on on the
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spoilers for another few minutes maybe
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that that sounds good to me
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alright so just you know to keep it
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spoiler spoiler spoiler free within the
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first 10 minutes of the movie they make
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it very very clear what kind of movie
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this is and it's not slightly a slight
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magical realism it's oh we're just going
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to go into full on syfy magic with a
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dash of action adventure basically
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raiders of the lost ark in space
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yeah it's a and it's it is really
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irreverent in a way that I mean I guess
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the original Iron Man felt quite
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irreverent but this is even more so than
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that a loose adventure story it's a
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sci-fi story and not a xanax earth-based
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like action-thriller superhero movie
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yeah it's not a superhero
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the movie at all although it's very
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comic booky and there are characters
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with superhuman powers all of the
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superhuman powers are attached to
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interpreters who aren't human
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Yeah right there super super human back
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here and I mean speaking of setting the
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tone right up at the top
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i loved how I mean you know obviously I
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went in knowing the trailers and knowing
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the basic tone but you know even if you
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go in completely cold you know it starts
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at like you know this desayunaste
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fiction landscape and you know i mean
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almost the one thing i want to say is
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the whole movie looked like covers of
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galaxies and the magazine of fantasy and
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science fiction and you know all these
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wonderful science fiction landscapes and
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you know you see that you see this
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figure moving through this landscape and
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then music kicks in and he just starts
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dancing and you know that's that's just
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this wonderful moment that says alright
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we're not just another space we're going
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to be silly and i love that my favorite
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part of that which is kind of meta is
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that it was an opening credit sequence
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which movies don't do anymore
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yes yes I loved that my kids actually
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inform me a few months ago that they
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know when a movie is old when there are
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credits at the front of the movie notice
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said this yeah I noticed that this movie
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has unlike all the other Marvel movies
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in fact they can't have your traditional
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mid-credits sequence in some ways
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because they don't have the initial
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credits to run at the end that it's
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actually at the beginning and it and
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it's great because you set that tone and
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i love i love the choice and i know this
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was something that was added by by the
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director James Gunn the the choice of
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tying Peter quill who is ultimately play
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by Chris Pratt who is great i think that
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is a great find of what a what a what a
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nice piece of casting he is such a a a
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winning winning kind of actor you want
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to root for him it feels like a regular
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guy and hear of simultaneously which is
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really hard to do
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time to earth and the only seen that
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happens on earth in the entire movie is
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the first scene of the movie where Peter
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is a kid his mom is dying she gives him
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she wants to talk to him she dies she's
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got this cassette tape that he's
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listening to and he's got a gift that is
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his grandfather puts in his backpack and
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he's abducted by aliens and that's the
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beginning of the movie and then we we
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get that mixtape throughout the movie
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and it's the one thing that attaches us
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to the earth and uh what a great not
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only does it set the tone because it's
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all like classic rock but it also is the
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one thing that kind of keeps us grounded
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in the entire movie because if this
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movie i think really risked being
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completely untethered from reality right
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it's like yeah i think the weakest thing
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in the first 30 minutes is the the
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download of information it it felt very
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much like some other sci-fi movies where
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you have so much terminology and so many
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like weird
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loading we have weird names and stuff
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was like well it's a nose and he's
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related to Ronan and there's the necks
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and our oh my god Ryan there's some very
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expositional dial it's rightly right but
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I was bad but i'm good now trust me
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right right and and and a lot of times
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when that happens it can lose an
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audience where they're like I don't know
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what the hell is going on and you know I
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felt that way about there are a lot of
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movies that I've ended up not liking
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have been like that but I feel like the
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the grounding of it with earth and with
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the music and with the tone is like the
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movies trying to send you a signal it's
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like all right first off if you don't
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get it it's fine it'll be fine because
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we're gonna have fun and second off uh
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you know you you can just it if you
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dunno know about this stuff you you know
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about it and that's good for you but if
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you don't know about it
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it's ok we got you covered because it's
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gonna be a fun ride anyway there's music
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and stuff you recognize I just felt like
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that was a high-wire act because there
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is so much I'd argue there's too much
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and they probably could have simplified
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it but there's so much there but they
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managed to make you not hate the movie
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in the first 30 minutes when they're
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throwing out where the kill and there's
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Drax and there's Nova prime on sand are
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American free and there's Roman energy
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on do and there's the peace treaty
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between the cramming areas Andorians and
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the Ravagers who kidnapped
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oh my god and that all of a sudden it's
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the weakest or
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minutes of the movie yeah but you know
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what the timing of the script and the
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timing of the movie and the editing that
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is what I think hold it together is
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because you do have all of this
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ridiculous exposition but you have James
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Gunn has an innate ability to know
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exactly when a joke needs to happen so
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we've got time to long time to throw in
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something funny that people don't just
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start to get their eyes glazed over and
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he doesn't repeatedly throughout the
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movie and actually some of my criticism
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of james gunn in the past as a director
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has been that at times he doesn't know
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when to rain back like I super is a
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great example of a movie that I really
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wanted to like and that has some really
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great stuff but also some some stuff
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that goes way too far and you're like a
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James Gunn comeback comeback but the the
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combination here whatever you know
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whoever James Gunn was working with in
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regards to marvel to balance this script
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out is just it's it's note it's almost
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no perfectly there are a couple
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instances where it doesn't quite work
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but even like with all of the exposition
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and the I just want to say really
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quickly about that opening sequence when
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I was a Disneyland a couple weeks ago
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thats the sneak preview that they were
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showing they showed the start of Peter
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getting on landing on the landing on the
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planet landing on Morag up through his
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ship getting a nice waterfall on it is
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the best spoiler lite version i can
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describe and from from like two minutes
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of watching that i just i went from
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being moderately excited for this movie
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being like yeah I love you know i love
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Chris Pratt and this is gonna be fun and
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then as soon as the music kicked in and
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the big giant guardians of the galaxy
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came up my mind my job kind of dropped
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and I went oh oh yeah this is this is
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this kind of a movie this is the kind of
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movie that i am going to really really
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latch onto and two weeks later three
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weeks later absolutely right no right on
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the money
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I don't see why we shouldn't fire off
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the spoil
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frankly you need to go see this movie
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to it so i hear it coming now here comes
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the spoiler horn
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ok ma Monty you're going to say
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something I really like how the opening
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sequence isn't just action it actually
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establishes Peter quills character
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because for the movie to work it's
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essential that we buy him as basically a
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goofball but also very competent at what
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hmm so we have to the whole movie think
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oh sure this is a guy who might try
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doing a dance off to distract somebody
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but also somebody who when the chips are
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down can actually shoot all the right
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I did question the strategy of putting
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on headphones while trying to infiltrate
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a secret temple in order to steal an orb
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who we think he's just goofing around
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he's right
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well yeah maybe she'd also like that's
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like and also like he knew he knew where
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that room was and like they shot a hole
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in it he was out of the temple in one
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second right without having to navigate
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the whole thing but like you know this
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is him by himself you know and he thinks
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nothing conduction band he's gonna dance
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around and not worry about the weird
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carnivorous aliens in this the this
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temple because that's that's what he's
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doing that is his day at work you know
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that is 925 I can't tell you how much i
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run i love the idea that I'm that the
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this is the idea of a hero who has a
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cool name like superheroes do except
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nobody knows it and nobody gets it and
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nobody cares is it such a great
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there are so many great running jokes
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every character basically has their own
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running joke that they can tell i think
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but with with him its star-lord which
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nobody knows and nobody cares about the
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very end somebody called star-lord and
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he's like alright finally man i may
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appreciate that made it because there
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because although the whole movie it's
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like I you know star-lord and like no
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prints no no okay don't know anything
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about name is not that we're never heard
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nope for what it's worth that's probably
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the biggest change from the yeah yeah
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yeahs the kind eyes
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I i read that I've read some of the
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comics because i read the whole
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annihilation think i'm a big nova fan
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actually and you know nova in someone
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has to be someone has to be it's me it's
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me well Green Lantern you know it
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no visit the knockoff Green Lantern
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basically in the Marvel Universe but I
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like no rich writer and all that and and
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and annihilation conquest sort of
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started as a nova story but it was also
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into the galaxy story and by the way
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this is the point if you have the
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over-under at 20 minutes or whatever
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there's a point where I point out that
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one member of the guardians of the
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yes maybe my choice yeah you please god
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so there's a micro not according to the
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galaxy link here one of the characters
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not burden by intellectual property
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issues that can reappear in Marvel
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Comics is bug and so he's been in the
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Guardians but anyway that it is a
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different story
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this is this is like they become a strip
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mind the recent Guardians story 444
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pieces but it's not mean that that's the
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beauty of this in some ways nobody
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really cares if you change the story cuz
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nobody asked the guardians of the galaxy
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or anyone
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well I recently became obsessed with
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kind of the origins especially if Groot
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and Rocket i read the annihilation
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prologue trade paperback which gives the
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origins of a bunch of nonsensical space
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creating characters many of whom are
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exactly identical star-lord and quasar
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and Nova all have the same origin and
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practically the same name but I was
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really happy that group whose origin was
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in nineteen sixty as a monster from
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Planet X in the movie when they're doing
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the kind of lineup thing and you see
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they're like powers listed as
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superimposed on the screen it says
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groups origin is X ah so even in the
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universe
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he's from Planet X them case there are a
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lot of little subtle nods in that script
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that's the sequence which I appreciated
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also noted that it does indeed say that
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rocket has broken out of prison 22 times
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he's pretty little this show when he's
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got a plan he's got a big friend yeah
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little guy with the big friend go away
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so yeah so when I saw this movie trailer
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i thought uh I thought it would rain
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mentioned raiders of the lost ark is I
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thought of Star Wars obviously and one
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of the things that I think is lacking in
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a lot of sci-fi movies these days I feel
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like we've gotten so dark and gritty and
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all that that that that we've actually
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lost a lot of the funds maybe truce of
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superhero movies too but it's certainly
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trap silently it and that's from the
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trailer i thought okay this has the
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potential to be that kind of movie The
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Star Wars kind of movie where it is a
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rollicking good
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i manned up more or less delivered
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I I you know I wouldn't say that I would
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I I wouldn't consider this a great movie
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but uh I think it's a good movie and I
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think one of the reasons that it gets me
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on its side is because of the fun it has
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the fact that in these really weird and
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street weird sci-fi settings like the
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the severed head of a giant alien that
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is now used as a space station there
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minding it which is and they're mining
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the cranes and snuffling think that's
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very farscape that is like a really
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bizarre thing i love i love that but in
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there you have these characters and you
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have you have on and there are in a
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proposition with the Nova Corps who are
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are totally straight-laced serious and
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that's where you've got you've got your
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uh Peter Serafinowicz and gents ear and
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john c reilly right and so I I
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restaurant the real actors all live
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where they live on over there no end and
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yeah writing is your Glenn Close
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Tehran's and are there the well and as a
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nova fan i find it really hilarious
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because what they've decided here to do
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is is do something that's actually a
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really funny thing that Marvel Comics
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due to which is going to roll their eyes
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at the Nova Corps is like yes and are
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they are the perfect planet everybody
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loves them they've got the Nova Corps
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the interstellar police people and
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everybody roll their eyes at them
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because they're just too perfect and
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that's who our characters are as they're
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not the perfect people they are this
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ragtag bunch of people who meet
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essentially and-and-and bond in in jail
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what kind of movie is that while they
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bond in jail it for like 20 minutes
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sure they don't spend a lot of time as
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prisoners well they would all die they
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stuck a stick around but that it is it's
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made a lot of people
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yeah yeah yeah and so everybody's got
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their thing uh we got rocket raccoon who
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is voiced by bradley cooper who I found
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unrecognizable I would never have
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guessed bradley cooper in a million
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years who is a Ricky raccoon and so one
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of my favorite things in the entire
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movie is when Chris Pratt says basically
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like dude you're like a raccoon and he
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says what's a raccoon
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because he's not from Earth he's never
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been there he doesn't know what a
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raccoon is that's great and group who
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says I'm group and all he ever says I'm
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what a great and yet great character
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like the iron giant voice by vin diesel
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great it's that the expressive eyes and
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the and the vocal patterns just the eyes
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and big black eyes and smile
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oh so that yeah that's too that's and
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later in the movie but there is there is
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one moment with group that I think
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everybody probably knows what I'm
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talking about if you seen it where
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something very big and violent happens
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and normally you'd be like oh god that's
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kind of horrible and then group turns
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around and gives you the biggest happy
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and smiling like there's also he's so
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powerful because I mean Groot is like
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the secret weapon because he can grow
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things and he's got his likely to make a
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little flowers for people and give them
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to him which is adorable he is he is
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this amazing character but when they're
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breaking out of the jail there's
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definitely that moment where all of this
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jeopardy happens and then group shows up
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and the comment is something like oh
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sure now you show up right because they
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like keep him out of the out of the
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movie for a little while because he's
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gonna be too helpful and they need to be
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that they need to put everybody at a
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little bit of a risk before group comes
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back because groups pretty awesome i
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think what made this movie so surprising
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for me is that so many of the core group
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of ragtag heroes have a really high
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degree of difficulty like group could
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have gone seriously wrong
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yeah rock it out Roger kind of luring
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right yeah I think rocket could have
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been a complete disaster rocket could
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have gone wrong two ways but he has
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great facial expressions somehow cgi is
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that good
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also just were all sick of the randomly
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homicidal character except this time
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we're super fun and even Drax after a
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wrestler is highly risky
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yeah but he works for me that guy's
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hilarious yeah his deadpan let's take a
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break so i can tell you about something
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cool and this is cool and it's new it's
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from drobo and it's a new third
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generation
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model of drobo if you don't know what
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drobo is dro a sense for data robotics
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the original storage robot was the
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concept way back when when drobo was
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started the idea is these are smart
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devices you put hard drives in them and
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it figures out how to use them
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it gives you redundancy it protects your
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data and lets you store huge amounts of
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data in one box and you can swap the
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drives in and out if you have a failure
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or if you want more disk space it's very
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cool but let me tell you about this new
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gen 3 troppo it's a 4dr units you can
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fit up to four full-size hard drives in
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it and those hard drives can contain a
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lot of data so a drobo box with four
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drives and it can contain a huge amount
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of data it's faster than the old models
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is a USB 3 interface as a new faster
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dual-core processor powering it and as a
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result it is a much faster device it's
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between three and five times faster then
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its four-day predecessors but here's the
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amazing thing it's more economical it is
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a great value the original forbade Robo
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cost 499 the new third-generation drobo
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starts at 349 lot of people told Robo we
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love the idea of the drobo 5d i have a
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drobo 5d here in my house and i'm using
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it and it's great but what people said
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was we don't need that massive
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performance and the price is way too
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high so this is a much more economical
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third-generation drobo at 349 and I told
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you about a lot of the other things it
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has including the data protection it's
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optimized for Time Machine have a hard
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drive crashes you don't lose data
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because it's on other drives too because
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drobo is smart it's not a dumb hard
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it's a smart storage system with a whole
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bunch of drives providing the storage
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incomparable listeners fifty dollars off
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the purchase of any drobo model any
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single drobo model in the whole store by
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using this code smell that's my name
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use code smell when you buy at drobo
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store.com dr OBO store dot
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of data you want to store and you get
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frustrated by hooking up a whole bunch
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of separate standalone hard drives in a
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chain to your computer and I've been
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there until I got my drobo and now I'm
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much happier not having it there so if
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you are thinking about if you need
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storage for your computer and you want
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it all in one place and you wanted to be
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so the different drive crashes you'll be
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okay drobo is the answer
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check them out thank you so much to
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drove for sponsoring the incomparable
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use code smell at drobo store.com
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I have to say Drax was the big surprise
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for me that about how much I loved
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tracks because it is dave batista he's a
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wrestler he's big and bulky and looks
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like a wrestler and you get the sense
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the Drax is just a big wrestler he's a
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big tough guy but to have him take
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everything literally is such a great
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comedy moment and is in it and it sounds
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like put it that way it sounds like it
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could be sloppy but it's not like the
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way it's played it is that for me that
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was where my wife and I were laughing
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the most in the entire movie is when we
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finally realized the tracks takes
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everything literally and it's like had I
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never call me for saurus again right and
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i think would go over my head
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my reflexes are too fast i wouldn't
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change anything it's so it's so great
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and and again if the movie was taking
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until itself too seriously you you
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wouldn't do that
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yeah and I like that dress is always
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shirtless even at the end when they've
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gotten their medals or whatever on Nova
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Gomorrah has put on a reasonably body
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covering outfit and she's standing right
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next to Drax whose shirtless as always
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well there's that really nice moment
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when they're gearing up to two cherry
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bomb and they're all putting on their
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Ravager armor clothing and tracks you
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know start by putting on the pants and
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takes a look at the jacket and then
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throws the jacket away
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yeah like nope this is how I am he's
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just never cold he's like great circle
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and said to even in the darkness of
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space that is Fascisti his tattoos or
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his fashion he needs to show you why
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would you cover those tattoos up the
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full upper body tattoos the five hours
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of makeup tattoos I don't even know that
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I call them tattoos they're like
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embossing
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well together like scarred right yeah
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yeah he's yeah the composition of this
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group again could have gone wildly wrong
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it shouldn't have worked for when for a
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million reasons that shouldn't have
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yeah I mean especially because on paper
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some of them are so similar right and it
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could be that we just have like three
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basically homicidal maniacs and then
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group who doesn't
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you know you could get to express
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himself in any way but they all get to
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become interesting right yeah there's no
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18 dynamic multiples of these guys are
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the muscle
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yes yeah yeah we have a lot of muscle on
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this team
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well they're on and not one of cradles
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know that you know even even rock and
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the little guy has you know has a gun
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the size of him whenever he needs it
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right listen can we talk about how
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beautiful that gun is just every every I
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saw this so I've seen this movie a
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couple times and twice and 3d and normal
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and post converted 3d you but just even
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seeing it in 2d the way that the rack
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focus goes on that gun when it's like
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level-1 level-2 level-3 oh yeah it's
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it's just such a gleeful happy I reminds
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me of being a kid and like playing with
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nerf guns kind of gleeful nuh swear it's
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like oh gee you think that you know what
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this is but no no there's more fun
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coming was like when i first read about
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it whenever guess when they first
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announced it i didn't really know much
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about the Guardians because i have not
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been a big Marvel Universe guy and he
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didn't even big Marvel Universe people
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don't know anything about winery well
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yes they're super instant and not big
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bumper right here yeah right so you know
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I read about it and went ok that's going
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to be the one that they finally snap
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thats that's it can't be good because
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that's nuts that's insane
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and then I saw the first trailer and
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it's I can't remember the last time I
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saw a trailer where I immediately wanted
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the rest of the movie right that second
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and from that point on you know my only
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my only disappointment in the movie was
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after after singing in the trailer i was
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waiting for spirit in the sky
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oh yeah we've been beautiful
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deleted scenes man i hope i do
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cannot connect kimura I mean one of the
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challenges in the comics Kimura is
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actually a really great character
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because she's sort of like this
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super-awesome but also kind of evil
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character who sort of comes around
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eventually
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her character here is that she has to
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come around really fast land before the
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movies before the movie started
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essentially on screen right there with
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turns out that were set up that she's on
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on the side of the bad guys on the on
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the side of Ronan and Thanos and then
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sushi sort of says no no I'm actually
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opposed to them and actually says it's
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too yeah it's too bad because um I think
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what makes my character really
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interesting is that they set her up in
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the comics at least to me and violation
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comics they set her up as this
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incredibly frightening character who is
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going to destroy you and then she
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basically comes around kind of gradually
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and you realize oh wait she's on our
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side now wow this is really great and
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the shorthand movie it's kind of too bad
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because she doesn't have much of an arc
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she sort of like presented with karen
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gillan as nebula as the green and the
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green one the blue one yeah and then I'm
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SS and one of them turns out to not be
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bad i guess maybe that's that's kind of
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my one big quibble with the movie and
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you know I I liked it a lot i think it
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was it's a lot of fun but the the kind
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of its like it almost need to come
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packaged with like a ridiculous org
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chart of like the evil organization
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really it's like there's a nose and he's
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not your daughters they're not actually
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his daughter so like he's adopted
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daughters and they don't like each other
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and they're working for some other guy
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wrote it will turn on Thanos and maybe
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they'll turn on each other but it's not
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really clear what their motives are and
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you can run it also has a guy below him
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who get a couple lines of dialogue so
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like you're gonna get to see a lot of
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different levels of our evil
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organizations yondu and he's with the
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reasons the Ravagers and the Ravagers
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have their own or bad but really just
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space literally no way but my heart is
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cool then there's yes of the cooler line
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in the heart of Guardian galaxy
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something that like their spaceship is
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more like a space pickup truck and not
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like a spring evil blacks
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you don't worry about them a twisting
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lego brick the ship was like a booze
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sound we at no point can you spend a lot
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of time thinking about the movie because
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then you start saying things like I've
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had a Walkman and I've listened to a
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cassette tape for six months of the time
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yeah that's not gonna work you don't eat
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the tape
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what happened to the double-a batteries
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i assume and this is one of the things
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that was a TV show you would see I
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assume that over the years Peter quill
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had gotten like a space battery 22 to
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keep it charged also they don't explain
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like he you don't see this time not with
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I'm not worried he's got wherein he's
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got also got the dashboard cassettes
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yeah that says I'm not worried he's
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gonna walk me on an infinity so i think
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its pace it's really important to him
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it's he's taken care of I think they've
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got him yeah he's got he's got like
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these space tape conditioner that has
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worked it's not really something that
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you that you need to question is
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probably not even set ups he's really
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coated those two a little little passion
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is just inside that to inside the like
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plastic he like guardians of the galaxy
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universe
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I feel like it read kanji this now I i
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am happy to say this is headland we're
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good i'm happy to say that my kids did
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not do this but I heard several people
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in the theater when the when the tape is
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there just go in the Walkman what is
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that room yeah and that's what's playing
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music where's mine are like a Walkman
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yeah well we're going to that you're
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gonna skip past that because you're
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raising them Amish I think we're but
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we're looping around where people have
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you know they have their phone cases
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that look like a Walkman so we're okay
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yeah well by those and put them on the
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phone and then they'll sort of know what
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it is what I like about Gomorrah is that
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she doesn't she doesn't have Trinity
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syndrome and she doesn't really have a
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girlfriend syndrome she actually is a
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badass like Drax's I what I don't like
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about her is the tracks has the sketch
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of his past which is that his family got
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killed and he's mad and Gomorrah has got
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she's you know she's got a flowchart
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she's got a weird background and she
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comes around immediately or was already
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around but we didn't know it and it's
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just that one that one bug me because I
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felt like that character probably could
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have been handled better and i think
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that was probably just a matter of space
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but yeah but she felt like shorthand
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yeah it's a matter of space and also a
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matter of dialogue I mean you look at
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the various characters and they all
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almost all of them get to have a sides
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with each other you know you have that
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quill are almost all very exposition
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physical comedy / accidental pop culture
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little bit but um and then Gorman
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Gomorrah is just not really she's not a
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funny person or just like sheets there's
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there's some humor to her character but
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by and large like she grew up and really
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terrifying situations so you don't like
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you don't really I i think that it might
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have just been a loss of how to how to
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have that conversation that's where as
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you know all the other conversations we
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can we can put in like injection little
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doses of humor and with that with quill
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dead serious or well we have a little
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bit of romantic tension and maybe we can
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play with that but then otherwise it's
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all it's all expository which which is a
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challenge it's kind of said I feel like
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they handled like rockets to hug their
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thinking more in terms of like he's a
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little bit like about his kind of like
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sadness that he is the only one of his
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kind like you know it's just kind of him
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against the universe and that back kind
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of works out better than her dialogue
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unfortunately I think it is really just
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the dialogue it's not the actress or
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anything no I think zoe saldana is
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excellent and you do that actually the
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thing the thing i wanted to commend her
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on is that later in the movie you get
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she she uses this you know otherwise
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kind of stale dialogue and really puts
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in some
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she she's presented at the beginning of
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the movie like this steel face character
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right she is a badass she is an assassin
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have I ever failed and mid movie you
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start to hear these sort of not-quite
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Quivers in her voice but the when she's
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talking about something that really
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matters to her everything kind of starts
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to break down and the the one that comes
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to me is when they're in the Ravager
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ship about mid movie when she's like
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quill is up against the wall with the
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with an arrow at his throat and she's
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trying to be like you've got on like
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we've got to do something they're going
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to hurt people and she puts all of her
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emotions into it and for Gomorrah that's
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maybe not a lot of emotion but it's it's
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just enough that you start to get the
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the sense that this is really important
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to her and in a way to something else
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isn't I just wish you had an arc
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emotionally instead of her being always
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on the side of good because I felt like
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I mean I get why they get what they did
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it which is they wanted a strong woman
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in the cast and more as a great
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character but they didn't she didn't
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have a journey there and you know sort
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of in in some ways Karen Gillan's
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character and so is held on his
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character are the same character and one
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of them just chose side a and the other
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chose side be my little blue mini y-yeah
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yeah well you could you could have shown
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her being strong and evil but growing
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stronger by turning good and you know
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fighting off nebula or even a moment
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very early where she's like oh this is
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really terrible i was already having my
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doubts but this is bad but I felt like
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she might like it's too late it's too
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bad it's a fun character and she's a
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strong strong personality and so we sell
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down Donna has now been like a billion
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different syfy French but yeah get into
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Star Wars gets into Star Wars she has
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the full to be ready dad are worse she
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knows a guy
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yeah i was reading about how she's got
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some problems because she has to be in
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Gary's the galaxy to an avatar 2 and 3
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and she's pregnant
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Wow boy now for avatar i don't think
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that matters that much she's a motion
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capture all the way right but the
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Guardians yeah yeah I don't know I we
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have more of about the characters before
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you move on to other things we have more
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about you want to single up
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about I feel like we've been talking
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about these characters I i want to
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praise Groot again because i feel like i
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am Groot is gonna be set on school
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playgrounds all this fall and I I what a
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great what a great choice to bring that
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character in and what a great
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realization he he looks great he is a
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tree who move this and is way better
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than Treebeard sorry Lord of the Rings
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way better than three beard turns out if
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you don't let them talk and monologue
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haha so many so adorable and only says I
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am Groot and the thing that I I knew
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going in he was only gonna say I'm group
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thing that I didn't realize is that he
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was gonna have a conversation with
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rocket for rocket knew exactly what he
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even though all he said was I am group
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that blew me away that was such a great
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scene they are ungrateful right yes okay
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i will have a dream twelve percent
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better than eleven percent between
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Treebeard and group i have groudon my
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desk right now
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yeah as you I beard and eventually even
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between-group sorry between groups and
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rocket i have it on my desk where like I
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really like rocket as a character and I
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he's definitely one of my favorites in
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the film but as for the thing that you
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know you kind of want to take home and
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like smile at the light crude yeah I
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mean well groupies kind of pure the way
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the other characters are not right and
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when he is the other guys are all are
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all misfits and and you know should be
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in jail and it's kinda like it's just
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there because he happened to be standing
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next to a rocket hold my bag claim right
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i mean like who doesn't misfit and that
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he doesn't fit in with these other
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people but not because of anything
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inherent to him its yeah he's not he's
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not a bad guy he's not a bounty hunter
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he just hangs out with a bounty hunter
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right you know and yeah I've actually
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got rocket on my desk that's because I
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opened a random heroclix from know that
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is your time don't see Riley only does
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so so rocket I wanted to do something i
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wanted to mention my rocket that I think
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is really clever and it's a smart thing
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to do in this movie is that the to the
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types you know you can hero types and
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you get you get you get a supporting
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character types and rocket is we could
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actually go back to the a team you know
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rocket is is kind of like the muscle he
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or he could be faced man only because
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when Bradley Cooper right but he's also
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the brain with this
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that's the trail is that is that by
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making Peter quill a goof
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by making Chris Pratt be like he's smart
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but he's not that smart he's he's
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survived but he was in the operational
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speak yeah yeah it doesn't really have
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it together and he doesn't have a plan
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and Bobby's a pretty face but putting
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that in rocket and saying in that
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wonderful breakout seen you know i
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gotta-i i'm working on and he totally
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has this amazing plan sketched out i
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love that because that takes that takes
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first optics Peter quill into being more
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interesting in that he's got that more
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he's gonna be like all right well I'm
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gonna go get that guy's leg and it'll
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all work out and then any it makes
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rocket nuanced because rocket is then
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not just the itchy trigger finger
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mercenary guy because he's got there's a
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reason he's a space grifter and bounty
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it's because he's really smart and get
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underestimated and he has an itchy
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trigger finger and so yes so we can get
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modulated by the other people but he's
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he's still the smart one and that that
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that means he's not the usual type and i
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love that I love that he's not somebody
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I've seen a million times before
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well something I liked in that scene was
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even though the leg is just for comedy
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they took a actual character moment that
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we see that Peter quill gets the leg
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through negotiation and not just
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attacking the guy right now they're
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really nice and while crazy things are
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exploding he's having a conversation
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come on man get the leg
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I got some stuff here will try to do
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some credits
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it's just it's it's a nice its subtle
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building out of quill and and the fact
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that rocket does have these these
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tendencies
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despite the fact that he's you know he's
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very smart as an itchy trigger finger
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but also has a you know a very wry sense
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of humor and the fact that it gets
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carried up again and we're gonna need
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that guy's I it's important to me
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yeah alright night is basically sold on
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this movie from the trailer is like ya
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reckon with a machine gun also that I
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mean yeah but like and and rocket is so
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much more than that I think he's
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actually even perhaps even more than he
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is in the comics which which I went back
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and read well I don't know he's really
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she's very nuanced time to take a short
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the research group start off talking
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conquest I'm fascinated by this he only
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he's back to saying only I am Groot my
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like in caveman speak and I was like I
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obviously in the the screenwriter saw
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episode 3 & 5 & 5 oh that's really good
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we could use that the guy who always I
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am Groot they decided during that
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miniseries I guess didn't tell the
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person who was writing issue for ya
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it wasn't like 2008 and ever since then
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he's only said I am Groot
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welcome to the consistency of marvel
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comics and then see ya
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Oh Marvel I wanted to I wanted to toss
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um I about the Nova perk or just because
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i wanted to i want to mention that I
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thought the ships were kinda neat and
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the fact that they can make like a
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little fully and web Kelly when yeah
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that's all thank you i said it was
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pretty neat me because in the in the
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comics the Nova Corps are superheroes
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they made them fighter pilots which i
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think is good and if they ever wanted to
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do a nova movie eventually they could
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say well now that those guys died we
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made the superheroes instead but and
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then john c reilly is fun and peter
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serafinowicz who I if you watch UK TV or
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listen to our UK TV episode
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look around you is fantastic but he was
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also avoid he was the voice of darth
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maul not the body just the voice he's
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great he's perfectly cast because
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there's a moment where he has to speak
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to know exactly who that is
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Sarafina which your recognizes will know
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the boy has a very distinctive are you
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looking forward to those Andorian police
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procedural where it's him happily
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solving like muggings every week
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ok i would make it happen his brother
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and our long in the past
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when they were there were cookies they
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were just at the end it's a prequel yeah
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yeah and Johnson so Peter Serafinowicz
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and john c reilly and and Marvel trivia
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nerd guy you know how in Greenland in
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green lantern was a Green Lantern
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crashes on earth and he gives his powers
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to a human because he's dying totally
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different subject in the anova number
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one Novak or guy comes to earth and dies
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totally different totally different but
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anyway that character is john c reilly
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is character the guy who bestows the
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Nova powers on Richard rider in nova is
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Roman day so they they are recycling is
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like totally random Marvel Comics things
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which I really liked but I thought that
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was I thought that was fun and I thought
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them in the police lineup was really
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great i do have a tone question here
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which is this is a Marvel movie where we
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get a lot of like shits but they say a
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holes and that was yeah who is it is
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cool to say a whole now instead of
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asshole over that serafinowicz realizing
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that's funnier
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I don't I just think it's weird funny I
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was like a while they can't say bad
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words and then there's then there are
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multiple shifts in this movie wasn't
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over cork it's where they're coming but
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I think they used up their pg-13 on the
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yeah I met on the shits and I think it
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sprinkle and it's yeah I don't read a
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rabbit's áááhole yeah i mean they're
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definitely there definitely is specific
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tonal speech for all of the Nova Corps
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the they are the uptight and you have
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again they have they're using that
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Angela close to they are the super we
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are way too perfect and we're not on the
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side of the perfect sci-fi society right
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where we're we're not there boring we
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want to have fun with the guardians of
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the galaxy which i think is really
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effective and they do throw in the word
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dast which is the all-purpose Marvel
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cosmic space they a swear word because
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you need one if your site is your
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frakkin yeah it's here you know
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yeah it's your filter powering its a
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filter carve its rashad spot uh the best
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but I'm not
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I was a little love that was a Robin
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Williams tribute they're a bit
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benicio del toro makes a select a brief
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visit is the collector who I remember
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from contest of Champions which was in
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many ways the original comic book
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miniseries where they got all the heroes
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together and he's in a very weird scene
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which sort of says to me this is going
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to be connected to other movies in the
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future kind of thing more than anything
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there's a cot picture of the Cosmic Cube
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from the Avengers in that in that scene
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and then he's in the end credits scene
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with Howard the Duck I kind of thought
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we were going to see more of the
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collector in this movie I think I think
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there's something rather movies all
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right because there may be there may be
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only so much you can do with the
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collector right and because it's he
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doesn't go places he has agents that you
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know do stuff for him and then you have
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to come to his hideout which is a little
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blown up right now so uh huh
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check in with me later when every model
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you get that kind of feeling of course
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from the from the end credits sequence
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in the the last or movie that he's
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collecting what we now know are infinity
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yes right mom and while that may tie
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into of adventure story i think it's
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interesting the react when faced its
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phase 3 because of the robot 4tube but
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I'm it may not just be you know Santos
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wants the gauntlet but there may be I
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feel like we will see more of him
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probably not more empowered the duck
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hopeful probably not although that's a
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funny that's a funny little reference
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and their stano's who is actually josh
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brolin who is going to be in other
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Marvel movies and assigned a signed
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contract and whether it's if he appears
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again in Avengers 2 or whether he's only
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saved for Avengers 3 or Thor 3 or
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something like that certainly guardians
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to certainly is to write and then that's
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a nose and I thought that was really
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interesting i'm jim Starlin who created
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a lot of these cosmic characters created
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a nose and he created I think credit
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star-lord and you know that's a really
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interesting character because he is like
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a super the whole idea of those cosmic
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villains it's like it's like dark side
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on on DC it's like they're so power
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you've only met the villains were bad on
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with now there are these villains who
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are so powerful they can destroy
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everything in the universe and fantasies
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like that right and so yeah he's in one
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scene and and you he's the crossover
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with the Avengers because he's in the
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post credits sequence for the Avengers
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he's kinda like the guy who made the
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deal to send the army to Loki to attack
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New York and the Avengers and I thought
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that was a perfectly flying little scene
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with him
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I'm i don't know but it's just it's all
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world-building it's not it doesn't
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really have it and it's part of that and
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confusing exposition part of them it's a
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homework scene right is this is so we
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can do other something I thought it was
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kinda silly and a little you know it's
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you know popped in there without and and
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I didn't even really like the imagery of
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that scene and i like so much of the
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image of the other stuff i was just like
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you have to come meet with me on my
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league on my ass parade always fighting
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every route even though clearly we have
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a great Skype connection that's gonna
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work in other ya know this is my
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floating rock that you saw the Avengers
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remember and her this rock sweet take
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some of the power away but you're doing
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this is still a movie you wouldn't do it
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right you just wouldn't do it sit
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eugenic road
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Ronan the big bad and you wouldn't worry
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about it but they gotta set up other
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stories and so you caught this movie was
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just a little but it was hard because
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they also kind of sacrifice like I mean
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we have not talked about wrote in that
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much so far because I think he he kind
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of laughed a lot why
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yeah I mean it's like we you know all we
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know is he's angry like that it's his
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backstory right yeah like he's angry and
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that's bad now you take your issues but
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anger issues about everything I guess I
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mostly like he's treaty
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yeah peacetreaty he's angry about it I
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almost wish they had like cut out the
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shadows part and giving us a little bit
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more to work with in terms of like who
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is run in why does he have this stuff
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you know what oh yeah Tony you know I
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think that is the number one problem
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with this movie is that Ronan develop a
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little italy pace he's an interesting
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actor and this is Ronan is a a a blank
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he is not interesting in anyway he's you
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know you know do we can debate whether
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he is more or less interesting than Eric
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Bana and star trek but it's one of those
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characters where he's a big bad and he
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supposed to be scary and
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he's nobody and it's really a shame when
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you have all of these other powerful
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personalities and Michael Rooker from
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the walking dead is you as yondu is
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interesting and john mahama sue is an
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interesting
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yondu kind of gets a better seen to show
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how a better badass vs raw my god kill
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like 20 guys with my arrow I control by
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whistling that's really cool i haven't
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seen a movie with the arrow controlled
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by whistling yeah maybe never know where
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is Ronan gets like I'm gonna walk into a
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room and people are gonna put black
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cloaks on me and that's how you know i'm
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bad throw dust on my torso
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yeah i'm i'm going to monologue that's a
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great point or so does is a sign of a
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villain
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no you're right red that's your so dust
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is a big deal just nobody
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yeah yeah going back to the star wars
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comparisons for a second I feel like
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they're like oh well we've got that we
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can get the darth vader character and
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the Empire and the Emperor character and
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comparison and where they're going with
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work and eat and he doesn't the the part
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where Ronan starts to be a little bit
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don't get some last-minute yeah it's
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know tracks thinks that he can take them
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on one-on-one so it's like definitely no
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one really thinks he's all that scary
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right you know i gotta be allies that
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beyond the temp workers do right
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you know the big difference between read
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something so they're really struck me
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the big difference between this movie
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and star wars is that I in star wars
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darth vader is one of the main
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instruments of this giant impressive
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vampire and so when we see him he is
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he's not just a scary guy but he is
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commanding a whole bunch of people who
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are doing terrible things at no
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Universal guardians of the galaxy the
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Nova's and everything else is chaos
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so we've got bad guy org chart Tony
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right bad guy or chart
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well actually i'm showing on the screen
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by the way yes and yes it's good
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microsoft has a plug-in that lets you do
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that and then there's the good guy or
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charts order for the rogue or chart i
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suppose which is the guardians of the
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galaxy and you've got your your your
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rooker but it it's um it's all these
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different factions of rebel which
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actually is less complicated than some
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of the guardians of the galaxy comics
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where there is then a separate like
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scroll or Carol I'm sure has the Kree
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that Ronan then is not this enforcer
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from this giant star and part Emperor or
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Empire he is a bad dude who works for
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another bad dude who's fighting with all
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the other groups of bad dudes over stuff
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and that that's not Darth Vader he's not
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Darth Vader he's just some hired you
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know tough guy and as a result Ronan's
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kind of a blank I i totally think that
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this is an example where because they
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have to split the difference between
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running and Thanos that the movie is not
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as strong as it could be because the
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villain has to get weekend for
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continuity it's more like odd jobs
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throwing a tantrum while he's taking a
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break from Goldfinger you know if he's
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he's not that scene where own and throws
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that throws his hat and somebody's been
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weird because I mean Ronan doesn't get
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to do a lot because then Ronan has his
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own guys that he sends out and does
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stuff right immediately core office the
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first bad guy that we see right who's
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his top henchmen who's who's down on the
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planet trying to chase Peter quill and
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keep them from getting the Infinity
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stone and like you know he kind of gets
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almost a decent amount of screen time
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and interact with the the good guys
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way way before opponent for actually act
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like interacts with anybody except like
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via spooky skate connection so yeah he's
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he and management
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yeah that's yeah there's a one of us
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right based on your face
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middle management personnel management
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so much paperwork
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there is a wonderful post at the
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dissolved com
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that's called Marvel's big bad is
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becoming a problem and i'm not i won't
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even go into the whole thing i'll just
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say go read it because it's wonderful
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that talks about how basically after all
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these films so far and all these
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confrontations and everything they're
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building up what his nose done
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he's got the Avengers together and he's
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gotten the guardians of the galaxy yeah
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and all the Infinity stones and gone and
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stuff are safe so far and basically
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Marte the thesis of this is that a
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better comparison for Thanos than
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Emperor Palpatine is dr. Claude from
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inspector gadget is about as effective
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as dr. clay no no you don't understand
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he is he is making all this happen fano
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says Stanley well there ya so he is a
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bad guy
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yeah yeah yeah I mean it's I find a fan
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knows the character again deeply flawed
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and i think at a certain point they
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realize it like I think during
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production they kind of realized well
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it's going to be hard for anyone to take
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this this guy seriously because he is
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middle management and because he's a
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rodent groaning yeah groaning sorry not
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not not a knows he's middleman he's you
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know he's he's supposed to be the big
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bad but he's not the big bad and it's
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it's a compromised roll yeah so now they
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may I mean you have the Guardians not
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taking him so seriously and kind of
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rolling rolling their eyes with the
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exception of course Gomorrah who i guess
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probably knows a little bit more about
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what Roman actually has done beyond you
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know malady me into one person but there
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was a there was an interview that i read
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with james gunn after I saw the movie
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where he mentioned that originally his
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plan was to have to have a nose as the
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big bad and that midway through Marvel
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was kinda like yeah we're gonna take him
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and we need him for Avengers 3 yeah
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exactly exactly and so they're like oh
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yeah we rework this a little bit so i
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think the you know it was supposed to be
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a little bit dr. Clough
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scooby-doo ask when the Guardians the
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Guardians butting heads against the
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house and having the first big
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confrontation and instead you got to get
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this thing with Ronan which again I feel
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like because the Guardians don't take it
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so seriously when I went in and watched
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it the second time I didn't really take
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it all that seriously either and looking
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at him as though I'm a you know I feel
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so big and powerful because I've got a
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warship and I'm gonna do things and then
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you basically have that scene where
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Thanos kinda is just leaning back in his
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chair being like oh boy you silly person
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you know you you go fetch me my stone
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and have some fun nicer by the way you
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yeah mmm yeah it's real easy d it's got
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a little vibrator in the back for like
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but the lumbar support
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well I mean if you're sitting on an
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asteroid all day getting a little bit
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yeah i don't know if i was on the
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airplane was because you can I want to
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talk really quickly about Peter quill
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because we talked a little bit of sweat
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the thing for me that really made him
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such an interesting character is
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actually the thing that normally really
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bugs me about movie's release lately
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which is the pop culture references on
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in terms of the fact that quill is
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painted and in such a wonderful way as a
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twelve-year-old with space toys as I
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like he's he's supposed to be the early
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thirties in this movie on and in some
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ways you can tell that yes he is
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competent he's a very good spaceship
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pilot and he knows how to get himself
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out of a jam but you've got the music
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which we've talked about to a certain
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extent on influencing his his abilities
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and his uh you know steadfast devotion
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to these things of his childhood because
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the only things he knows and the only
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things that tie him to earth so you've
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got these occasional weird pop culture
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references and you've got him talking to
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rocket ohakune you know you've got far
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Ranger Rick all of that fo and it's yeah
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it's it's pulled out so it's pulled out
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so intentionally on that it
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it works as a way to further define hit
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it works as a way to further define hit
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character rather than just we're going
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to say a pop culture reference and it's
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gonna be funny you just he's innocent
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you know he's in he's the ultimate kid
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and arrested development
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he's a kid who got to you got abducted
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and then now has eight his own spaceship
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and as you know some deep-seated
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deep-seated a belief in doing what's
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right when it really comes down to it
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but it is kind of a tool like a lovable
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tool but what a tool and well you know
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if you think about it
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three-fifths of them are no you know
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grown man child type unique will and
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group and racks and it's getting more
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and rocket who are presumably mature
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adults and maybe that's not the word but
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Jillian but I don't know but but but
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peter has never had to grow up right in
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fact I think that writer of the
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suggestion here is that because he's
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been with the Ravagers he is in this XP
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extended period of being like a teenager
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he's not a adult he's uh yeah this
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within the Lost Boys this definitely
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movie feels like this
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Peter quills story here is that he's
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finally got to grow up a little bit yeah
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i did like that he's not just saying pop
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culture references he's saying the
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appropriate pop culture references for
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this character right nothing after 1988
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and nobody out of ya after I got out of
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the movie I was a little bothered by the
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fact that they were all accurate because
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i'm not sure how well I do at saying
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only things that happened to me up until
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I was 12 if I never had abducted by
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aliens right if that was your night Hank
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yeah you you would focus on it and to
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turn those over and over and over and
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over in your head but wouldn't it be
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more fun if he got one wrong maybe he's
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got his trapper keeper in his backpack
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with like he's like top 10 list yeah you
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know we we have seen over again we see
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the little cards that he has stuck
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around the spaceship and we see the
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trolls and yes good use electro ball
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yeah troll doll because I was like well
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movie is how colorful it is especially
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comparing it to DC's movies especially
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really like the scene where quill and
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crazy swirling mass of color that looks
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like jim Starlin painted it
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oh yeah and that one scene it felt like
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Marvel space comics to me and also had
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more color than will be a whole Superman
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yeah that oh I so I want to go see it
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I max screen specifically to see that
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scene again and i imagine that I
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probably want to go another time to the
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like it's like it's not necessarily that
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the movie is so amazingly over-the-top
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good that I'm like again again again
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oh it's it's pretty good but the the
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visuals are really they demand being
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seen on a big screen in a way that a lot
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of movies recently don't so much like
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okay you can see a lot of buildings
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blow-up that's fun but a if but being
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able to like yes the giant head of a
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dead Celestia and then we zoom in and
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it's this beautifully intricate mining
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colony with things flowing over and
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beautiful color theory and you've got
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managed a dream blasting in your ears
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it's just it's so note perfect
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yeah yeah i mean i want to see it again
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and again just because it's beautiful to
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look at
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just it looks like all the great you
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know thirties and forties Golden Age of
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sci-fi pulp magazine covers it is a you
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the whole goal here is to have I mean
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this is about eight a fun movie in a
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space movie and Marvel a kind of feel
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like at times Marvel's plan with the
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houses money here they're like you know
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successful the weekend afford to take a
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chance on something and let's make it a
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sci-fi movie and let's make it fun and
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irreverent and make it look not like
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every other sci-fi movie and that you
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know you can get it does feel like a
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gamble but it does feel like they they
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had enough clout that they could they
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could do this and see how it went and
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is great to see ya
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and honestly whoever is cutting their
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trailers need to raise oh my god
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well the trailer is the trailer is
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better than the movie i actually think i
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like i like the movie and I love the
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trailer the trailer and although i will
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say this this is something that you know
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so many trailers give away all the
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anything that's funny they give away all
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the good jokes the trailers there are a
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lot of fantastic jokes in this movie
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that were never spoiled by the trailers
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and thank i gotta give them a raise for
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that too that they did they they kept
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their powder dry
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they only use some of the jokes they
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kept some of the jokes behind and he was
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almost nothing of rocket i know right
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and the use of hooked on a feeling the
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first trailer and spirit in the sky in
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the second trailer beautiful cutting of
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of visual you to audio and and there's
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almost none of those songs in the movie
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the background makes you wonder why
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hooked on a feeling
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a why that choice right and then when
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you see the movie and you see the tape
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like oh it actually yeah it actually is
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like a planting a seed for the for what
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the movie is going to have in it which
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we have instead of it being just a
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quirky mood music choice it's actually
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about the plot of the movie was very
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integral yeah when Great has been killed
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young peter is there and his mother is
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dying and and my twelve-year-old kind of
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these areas are you gonna cry no no I'm
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fine I'm fine and you know it's just
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it's really dusty in here it was getting
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a little dusty but you know I I held it
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together but at the end when when he
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finally opens up his his gift from his
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mother that he never hand up and I won't
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say what that is because spoiler or not
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that should be a good surprise
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I looked over and he's just kind of you
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know yeah like are you going to craigs
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yeah at the end of the day I think one
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movie and one of the reasons why I've
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want to see it again is that it has
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heart and it has emotion in a wave that
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a lot of movies recently you know
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especially genre films i do not and I
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don't mean emotion Justin the you know
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it's dusty in here kind of emotion but
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it makes you laugh so hard it makes you
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hurt you know there are the moment the
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moment where group sacrifices himself
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it makes you it makes you hurt it really
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like you may not you may not be balling
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but you you feel something even that the
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climactic moment of the movie which
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should be so ridiculously can't be that
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you would laugh is actually moving and
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touching and then there's that one
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there's sort of a flash which again I
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won't spoil on as to how it had goes but
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during that climax where Peter quill is
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looking at somebody and then suddenly
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he's looking at somebody else and don't
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know that yes you are yes you it's me as
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hell but it works
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yeah they've earned it and it's to me
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the fact that this movie can pull that
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off despite its flaws despite its quirks
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means that it's a it's something that's
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going to stick with me and it's
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something that i wanted i want to see
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again and i want to quote and I want to
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you know put on my shelf out of the rest
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of you a sort of rate this calibrate
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this movie we all have spoken charitably
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of it but I'm kind of curious
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nowhere what do you know where does it
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where does it fall is it a you know
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really fantastic fun movie is it sort of
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in the middle i'm i'm curious about that
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David what do you think I you know it's
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one of those movies where I can see
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little problems with it that maybe I
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would tweak and especially hearing about
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how Marvel said no no we want fantasy
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you have to rework this and it's like
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oh that explains a lot of the little
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issues ahead with it you know i think
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that the first half hour could be a
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little tighter i think it doesn't really
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take off until the prison break but from
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that point on it's just it hits the
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ground and keeps going except when you
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have to like see brown and talking but
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yeah that doesn't happen
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no it doesn't happen a lot especially
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out of the first 30 min and and it moves
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again it moves really quickly and so
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it's one of those movies that i just
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installed android so damn much
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I don't care about the problems that I
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never picked out with it
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thank you know I it's like the Harlan
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know and it's it's it's the thing you
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fun and so many movies have forgotten to
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they've forgotten to be fun and they've
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forgotten that heroes can be heroes
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conflicted shut up anyway
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death anyway oh yeah you you get you
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gotta Tony what do you think about where
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this one fits i i'm i'm in agreement on
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and there are things I quibble about and
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that I you know I can always kind of
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nitpick but i was i was really fun and I
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have pretty high expectations going into
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this I you know I enjoy all the kind of
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marvel cinematic movies of the last
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couple I think have enjoyed a lot but
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they have definitely been not as fun if
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you look at the like phase 2 right i
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mean 42 and Captain America to our i
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enjoyed those release other people and
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out of but they're not they're not
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really as fun as some of the earlier
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ironman steyr man 3 not as fun as
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is you know I think this is probably the
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most fun movie I'd seen since the
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world's end you know one of the most fun
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super seen in a long long time but uh
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but it's also not super far back so yeah
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they're the things i can nitpick but
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there's there's a lot about this movie
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that's really good and it was really fun
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for me and I was i I waiting with high
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expectations and my expectations were
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surpassed nice Monty what it was your
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overall verdict
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well like everyone else I thought this
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movie was super super fun
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um it's not flawless i agree with some
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of the people on the internet who
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pointed out certain sexist elements of
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the movie like Drax is completely
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literal with everything except for that
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time because Gomorrah whore
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yeah yeah yeahs not grant yeah but I
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don't like the climactic bitch Tyrone in
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either quite frantic yeah but i enjoyed
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watching this movie so much that I view
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those as flaws in a really fun movie
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where it's my didn't enjoy the movie i
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might view them differently
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yeah well I mean as we said with
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everything in this is like goes back to
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winning and he was on talking about the
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Avengers just like look if the spell is
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broken or if it's never cast for you
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then it's just not gonna work and that
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happens with movies sometimes I'm with
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i'm with you guys I I think we're all on
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a but we didn't like to a loyalty test
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before we started this episode i'm with
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you i I'm like I think Rand is the most
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enthusiastic about it I i liked it i
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didn't love it but I liked it and I want
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to see it again because it was fun and
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because i feel like the more I watch it
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the more I'm going to appreciate a lot
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of the details that I i focused in on
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that I really love like fruit for
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example but a lot of it is really fun
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and I and if that goes a long way to me
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is it is seeing a movie i mean i i've
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said this before in this podcast like
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when my wife and I came out of serenity
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the the firefly follow-up movie we
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looked each other and were like that was
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just fun that we haven't come out of a
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sci-fi fantasy movie and just felt like
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exhilarated with how fun the ride was in
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a long time
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which isn't to say that there are other
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our amazing movies in the genre and that
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isn't great that sometimes John movies
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take themselves seriously and say
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serious things but there is something to
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be said for a movie that's fun and
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guardians of the galaxy is fun i don't
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think it was as good as Captain America
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to actually I like that movie better if
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I I all the way sources with Tony saying
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it was not that's not weird comparison
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as fun when yeah very different they're
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very Tories are you totally didn't I
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I've seen some people say oh Marvel this
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is the greatest thing at like yeah I
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actually I I wouldn't it's not the best
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movie I saw this summer it's not the
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best Marvel movie I saw this summer but
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it's fun in a way it is the most fun me
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is like Thor 2 is terrible but anyway
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that's another there are more fun movies
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I should be watching don't know but yeah
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I my money that where it's funny that
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we're all worried grab me that work
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bored fun but I'm right there with you
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it's like it buys off a lot of flaws
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because of the tone and the style and
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the joy in the telling and the fun of
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these characters and how they're a
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little bit different from the usual so i
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might I just liked that it was it was a
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movie that i took both of the boys to on
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opening night for the first show and
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they were both excited about it and we
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all watched it and we wanted to watch it
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immediately as soon as it was done and I
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don't think we've seen anything that's
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done that all that's something else I
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really appreciate about it now we no
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longer have midnight Thursday night
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showings we have seven pm-3 and showing
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so I can see the first showing yeah it's
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yes much much more fishy old person's
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women yeah p.m. the thing actually that
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I wanted to to say before we can close
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it out is it actually serenity is a good
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a good comparison and and that's
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actually where i would rank where like I
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really enjoy this movie and it it's one
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of those things where it's like like
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serenity like The Rocketeer you know
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movies that mark I wouldn't necessarily
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put in my top five like desert island
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pics but movies that like I want to feel
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a certain way you know I want to not be
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depressed I want to have a good fun
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escape his time at the movies
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guardians is definitely on that list and
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probably very high up that list where
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it's like this this captures a certain
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a certain kind of fun a certain emotion
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that you want to pop in on like a rainy
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day and just be like oh you know what
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I'm gonna go visit my friends chris
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pratt & and so is saldana and and
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Bradley Cooper and watch them take over
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the you know the computer models of
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crude rocket yes it's fizzy yes can I
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recommend another james gunn movie
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people may not have heard of sure it's
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the specials from 2000 or 2000 2003 it's
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a about a group of misfits superheroes
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Haden Church and judy greer and pageant
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rooster he made it for a million dollars
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lot of fun huh
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alright it's way more fun than the
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Super's ok the specials not the Super's
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not the ropers internationals got it all
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right well I think we've reached the end
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but this was fun to talk about a movie
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that we've seen recently instead of a
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movie from the distant past which is
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usually what we do on this podcast so
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and I'm glad I finally got to see it
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because i don't see that many movies in
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theaters these days and I got to see
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this one within a week of its release
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which is really exciting
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alright we've reached the end so I want
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to thank my guests as i always do monte
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Ashley thank you so much for being here
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thank you it's great having you here
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David lower thank you for being here
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your skype avatar is now you with Rocket
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Raccoon boy i'm i'm gonna need that
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guy's I before we go
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yeah that's right i'll get to the but I
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got to this leg what are you talking
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about that i need the leg and the eye as
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he secretly building a person it could
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be rocket and I wouldn't put a password
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or like an exoskeleton he can he can
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like whereas a disguise
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oh yeah that might be fun it's important
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yeah Tony Tony similar thank you so much
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for being here
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well presented a podcast is better than
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eleven percent of a podcast and
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guardians of the galaxy called well
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thank you for people because it's a
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plated serenity in your heart you see so
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very nice i appreciate it thank you for
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being there was a lot of fun I'm glad
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I'm glad we got to talk to talk about
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with you
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me too all right and thank you everybody
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out there for listening to this super
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current unless your listing from 2019
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episode of the uncomfortable talking
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about guardians of the galaxy we
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appreciate it and we're going to be
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stuck with us we'll see you next week
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and thanks for listening to buy
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