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I'm your host Jason L we are here to
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talk about Star Trek because we
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discovered an episode 200 that
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everybody's favorite episodes of being
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comfortable worry about Star Wars which
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is funny since your host actually it has
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a deep abiding love of Star Trek and
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although like Star Wars just fine would
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probably pick star trek over Star Wars
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if one had to and yet my my own very own
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podcast just doesn't have enough star
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trek representation so we're gonna
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correct that tonight with an episode
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topic suggested by the great moisture
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yon who in true Glenn fleischmann
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fashion has suggested a topic and not
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been on the episode is unable to be here
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but he suggested topics here in spirit
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and what we're going to do is we're
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going to talk will probably do this
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again sometime because there's so many
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topics but this is going to be about the
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best and worst of Star Trek I guess we
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could even say part 1 because we'll
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probably have to do this again and in a
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semi draft format but really let's just
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say discussion a roundtable discussion
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we're going to talk about some of the
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best and worst things and star trek i
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have a fine group of Star Trek viewers
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experts fans what have you with me
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tonight to talk about it i'm going to
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start with the host of our very own
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random Trek podcast that a many of us
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have been on or about to be on it's got
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McNulty hi Scott
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hello I'm glad that we're doing this
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because I don't think there's enough
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Star Trek represented on the internet
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you're with me yeah there's really not
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it's not like it used to be used to be
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all star
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track and now that percentage of the
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internet devoted to Star Trek has been
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going down over time and four-year it
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goes down we need to get it back up
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that's right JJ Abrams help us we're
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gonna do our part Tony sindelar is also
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here by Tony hi Jason I'm really looking
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forward to like arguing about which is a
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better bureaucracy like the Obsidian
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order or OCR so you know yeah it could
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happen that maybe an episode like five
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part 5 of Best Western Star Trek
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bureaucracies or maybe it'll be sooner
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you you heard her a few episodes ago and
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she's back for her second tour of duty
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and a Star Trek fan which is also one of
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the things that prompted me doing this
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episode now it's Brianna Wu hello
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welcome back
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what's crackalackin now we're
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crackalackin again I knew I got my eye I
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now I'm prepared for crackalackin so I i
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have a question are we going to all be
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friends after this episode we are high i
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miss you and your friends you leave
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friends and whatever happens in here is
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just all part of the podcast and it's
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it's all neutralized
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it's like you we rub decontamination gel
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on our body afterwards who tell you i
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will talk about some controversial stuff
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but I was looking over these questions
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and it's tough
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even I wouldn't touch on twitter i know
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i know well we're gonna just we're going
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to dip our towing it and the beauty of
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it is we will all just have a good time
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here the people what's gonna happen
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those people's iphones are going to like
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explode when they hear what we're saying
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be like no I can't
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and that's good that's what makes for
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good podcasting and david lawrence also
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out there he will probably have
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incredibly ridiculous and controversial
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opinions too i would assume just knowing
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you LOL i would assume yeah i mean i
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guess a is as many times as I have
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watched the original Star Wars movies
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and i guess some other things that exist
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in the stories universe
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I've probably watched the wrath of khan
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more times than all of those combined
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that may be true for me too
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alright so Star Trek best of course
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instructor here's how this is gonna work
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we're gonna go around in in a in a
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circular fashion that may or may not be
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perceived as a draft although if people
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want to agree but the point is not the
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point is not that that you're assembling
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a team that you're going to deploy in
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some way I think it's more that we would
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like to come up with some suggestions
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and opinions about the good and the bad
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and that's that's a key here is we're
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gonna do it we're going to
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you some positivity we're going to do
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some negativity and it should be an
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interesting just some discussion points
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having fun as you might if you were
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gathering around the table with a good
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group of your friends who like Star Trek
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to talk about Star Trek except that
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there's no table and it's the internet
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and it skype instead and it's recorded
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and therefore a podcast and that brings
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us back to where we started
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anyway first up is best episodes of Star
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Trek and this this is a level that's
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pretty easy on another level it's
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incredibly hard because you have to pick
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and i figured baby we go around a couple
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of times but i wanted to add let
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everybody pick some of their their
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favorites the ones that uh that they
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think are are among the best and we're
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going to start with our our newest
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Brianna do you have a favorite a best
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episode of Star Trek that you want to
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throw out there absolutely do and just
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get the controversy started its avoid
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your APIs out well max let's just let's
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do this
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I have a Voyager episode of my list to
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actually so yeah
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ouu misfiled to change but it's all
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right here we go get on type one of my
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one of my favorite episodes voyager is
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course oblivion and we can just spoil
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everything yes you're right okay so
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basically what happens is it the episode
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starts off and character slowly start to
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die over the course of the episode and
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you find out that they are every member
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of wager is basically a copied member of
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the actual curve ledger that have been
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like duplicated by this like liquid
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thing that came from a demon planet and
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it sounds like kind of a kitschy concept
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but it's a really it's the most sad
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depressing episode of Star Trek I've
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ever seen because your characters are
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themselves their the characters you've
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come to love but they slowly die and
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just kind of disintegrate in front of
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you and the very end of it they
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completely fail to get all this
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information about transwarp technology
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over to the real Voyager so all of their
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lives were for nothing and it's just a
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fantastic
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yes science fiction story you like a
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dark is what I do i do you know I don't
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think I've seen that episode I should I
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should watch it
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yeah I'd like to watch just to watch the
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crew of later times they got you had me
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from they all died you do that had to be
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part of the pitch and there's a demon
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planted with goo that makes duplicates
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which is you know that again that story
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again that's how hard I've true I know I
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i would say it's fanservice but maybe
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that's not quite the right word
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alright course oblivion from Voyager
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that's a good one Scott what do you have
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i will pick I spend more time getting my
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list of characters than episodes so but
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i will pick a defaced 9 episode called
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duet which is actually from the first
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season oh that's a great episode and
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this is the the episode where a
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Cardassian ends up on the this 1d place
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behind on the space station i was going
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to say i have some space station Deep
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Space nine would be the space station
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and he has he's suffering from a disease
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but no one knows why he's there
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it turns out the he could only get the
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disease if he were on bayshore was
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occupied and if he was in this
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particular site of this this massacre
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but he says that he wasn't there it
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wasn't him and Karen Reese is doesn't
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believe him and it turns out at the end
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that he is the guy who orchestrated this
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whole massacre and he's here he's very
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unhappy man and he wants to kill him and
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it's it's it's just a great episode and
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I think Karen Reese really comes into
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her own as a character that episode and
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there's a lot of tense scenes and it's
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fantastic i like that one a lot that's
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really that was that was the episode
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that made me sit up and take notice the
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Deep Space nine was going to do some
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things that were not necessarily what
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the next generation was going to do
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yeah I really like that upset to see
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we're all getting along the calm before
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the storm
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Tony I'll at the top of my list is also
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a Cardassian episode but a next-gen
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Cardassian episode a chain of command
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which is a two-parter so I guess pick
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one of them to pick an episode
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no command Part 2 which is the famous
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episode where Picard is on like a secret
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mission well there's like a diplomatic
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meeting with the Kardashians and he gets
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captured and he is interrogated their
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these long scenes where the
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interrogators like trying to break him
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down and Picard wishes he will not break
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and it's the the famous line you know
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there are four lights when the
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Cardassian trying to get him over and
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over again to say that there are five
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lights when there are only four legs and
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you know it's relatively targets for
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Star Trek episodes go those are some of
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the ones that i liked or I find the most
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interesting even if they are sometimes
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not the most are tricky but i think that
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was a great one it you know yeah my
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favorite place you get Ronnie Cox as the
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fill-in captain on the enterprise and
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data briefly gets promoted he gets to
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wear red red uniformly it goes he goes
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to like a different shift structure for
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the bridge which upsets everybody that
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there's you there's new nothing really
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is more exciting than starship time you
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know time management and Leslie
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fascinating
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yeah with my god what but what do you
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mean there's gonna be three ships
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instead of two shifts
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well I'd like to do it that way jerks
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and all the way by the way Troy put on
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the uniform right that's this episode
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isn't it i think it is like nobody likes
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rocks also what I remember is that it's
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purchase multiple myeloma I'm like I
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feel like he's just not you know he's
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the bridge making decisions up there and
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to kill him
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are you saying you can't imagine Picard
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fighting a Gorn because I could totally
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imagine that that would be cool like to
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feel like one got one Corran is the
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he would out he would help think them
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totally yeah I can see that so you think
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he could be like for Gorn at least 10 at
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least they're off all going to be to
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just let me know if he can handle an
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awesome he can handle the Gorn well but
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that was a younger Picard right and also
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he didn't totally handle it
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yeah they're I don't I don't I don't
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want to ruin that episode for you if you
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only seen the first like minute and a
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half of it
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wow this fight is going really well let
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me change the chapel
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I ready to read the watch what watch the
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rest of this episode he's totally got
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the situation under control
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I'm just saying when when admiral ackbar
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send him on this mission we should have
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known it was a trap
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that's all I'm referencing Thank You
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million little star wars like the route
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through some star wars in there for
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people who are feeling starved of Star
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Wars that's fanservice yeah that's a
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good just helping out come out and
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thrown under the bus earlier and bring
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it back now David yeah well done Tony
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david i-i that's one where I think
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there's like a core of it that's pretty
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good and there's a bunch of stuff in it
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that's kinda weird and strange and yeah
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the B plot
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episodes is like might as well like for
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half of it it could be like you know
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data and Geordi decide enter a science
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yeah they can find spot it's never
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looked like this for ya
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the border invading or you know intense
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diplomatic negotiations with the
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Kardashians face returns the bridge
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after his terrible experience being
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and a striker
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they say well data lost his cat for a
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while I hate that I hate all of the data
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represents knocks yeah right records to
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polish the trombone a little bit that
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that's a hey now hey David it's your
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term but you have a well I've gotten
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into more arguments about this only only
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because only because the default answer
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favorite episode is a Deep Space nine
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woman is knocking on a door in in the
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rain and this elderly man opens the door
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he's a reclusive author and she's trying
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to find out why is he recluse why did he
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stop writing what happened
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that he lost his father years and years
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ago decades ago during a freak
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experiment on deep space 9 and he
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continued to live on the station and
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every few years
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cisco would appear to him on the station
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just sort of feels kind of like Kirk in
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the Tholian web i guess yeah and
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eventually they start to realize there's
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a way to bring him back and maybe they
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could and you know it sort of it's a lot
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of science fiction mumbo-jumbo as Star
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just this amazing meditation on fathers
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and sons and that relationship and what
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it means to connect across time and
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across generations literally and of
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course in the end everything is saved
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and x put right and Jake is back to
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being a teenager on the station but it's
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just a beautifully written episode
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yeah I love that one I just watched a
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couple years ago
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it's a really good one I've ever seen it
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but you solved it to its great that's
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not going to be I Patrick out this
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podcast and like like course oblivion
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you into the future and it's this it's
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uuc up you see a path that isn't
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actually taken by the main characters
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it's rewritten but it's a beautiful
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thing to see that and and it doesn't it
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doesn't hit the same old story beats
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kills me when I give up on a Star Trek
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series but that one's that's absolutely
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my favorite episode
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which surprised me to the great one
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yeah i think it's my turn huh so what am
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I going to choose this is so hard
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I sitting on the edge of time I think
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well know if I was gonna choose original
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series i was actually going to go
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trouble with tribbles and I i mean i was
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a oh yeah I was a read more convinced of
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this than ever then last summer when i
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park where they did it in a park in the
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middle of portland oregon they did a
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live staging every summer for five years
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they did all life stages of Star Trek
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episode and they did trouble with
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tribbles and I was reminded of just how
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wacky and funny and like it is singing
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audience and with actors who know the
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material that it is it is like a
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crowd-pleasing legitimately funny thing
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these broad characters that we've come
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to know and love and see them in these
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situations and the Klingons are the butt
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of the jokes and the bureaucrats in the
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butt of the jokes but I'm not gonna pick
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the trouble with tribbles
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oh maybe if we do a second i'm not
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because i have to pick Darmok front next
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generation which I I i love this episode
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there was a kerfuffle on the internet a
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little while ago about somebody wrote
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about how is so overrated and and the
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who sacrifices himself in order to forge
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a connection he risked his life and in
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fact gives his life to forge a
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connection between their planet and the
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Federation you know this crazy thing
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that needs to be done just in order to
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to make this connection but what's
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really amazing is the first thing you
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see with the aliens talking to the
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bridge of the enterprise they say all
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sorts of crazy things that nobody
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at court and he soaked at his his eyes
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black his face red whatever it is right
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at the very end it this episode is
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there on the screen of the enterprise
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saying all this stuff and although Riker
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it the card has just come back and he
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understands everywhere they're saying
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and we as an audience understand ever
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word they're saying because in the
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course of this episode we've learned
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what all their metaphor for zar and what
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they mean and so not only we taking this
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kind of emotional journey where the
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captain and the card have to fight down
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the fight this beast down on the planet
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and and the the captain dies but they
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they sort of exchange stories before he
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dies overnight and then the card comes
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in to save the day at the end but we
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also has an audience take this journey
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metaphor and yeah if you tried to apply
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this scientifically it wouldn't make any
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sense but it's kind of a beautiful story
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of language and metaphor and then on top
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of it I just it's quite a magic trick I
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think for you to go in 40 minutes from
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having this complete nonsense and at the
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end you know exactly what they're saying
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it's really a great trick and I'm blown
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away everytime i see it so i have to
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pick it so you're saying you'd like that
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episode I love it took a little bit it's
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ok little that it's alright
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yeah it's already Picard how ok so
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here's my complaint about that episode
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this is the episode where we get the
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equivalent of Kirk's blouse what it was
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when Steve let's call it the fact that
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blouse for 47 Creek this is because
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leather jacket it's like comes out of
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nowhere and he's like I think i will now
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have a leather jacket on and put waited
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like it's in Darmok I don't know why
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it's there but but yeah your card you
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can do what you want wear leather jacket
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don't care and I i remember the time
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thinking how can this be this good this
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is a guy who wrote for wings haha fine
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said come jovanovski no philippines
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ethnic now jovanovski road Dharma up but
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spec scripts that came in osky I'm sure
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weirdest episodes of the next generation
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the most crazy Basque for end of episode
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accomplishment that's the and what
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Darmok ask too much of the viewer and
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and I think it's a beautiful thing
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sure uh let's let us go around we might
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do another best up
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so that was a lot of fun but i want i
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wanna i wanna bring out the bad ones now
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let's be negative but let's yeah let's
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let's talk let's talk bad Breanna you
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wanna bring out a bring out your dead
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enemies giving something you hate
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so there's nothing I fight about in my
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marriage more than my husband who loves
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tos and I hate it and so I have I've
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over the coast of being married to him
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i've seen every TLS episode multiple
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times and Spock's brain is the stupidest
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worst piece of star trek in history like
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go whoa what did we do it although brain
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steal Spock's brain but he still walks
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like the colored lights shining up in
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a child could do it a child could do it
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i love that but it's a terrible episode
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it's terrible
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is it was not ideal I did not like the
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don't have to do the you know super
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every night instead I've got drobo
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drives it the whole thing is better it's
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i I just have to say people blast hits
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her for bad writing and I just think
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that we see third season of T past all
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relative it's all relative on people i
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don't think Spock's brain is the worst
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episode of Star Trek the original series
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I've got a list but we may get there but
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let's go to Scott well I have a
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two episodes that actually we i recently
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watched because they were both on random
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uh-huh so i have to decide between and
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i'll pick the one that David Laura was a
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yes because in fact it is if it's an
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awful awful episode from Voyager called
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the age in which Neelix's lungs Neelix's
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long as our stolen
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oh I'm sensing a trend here we don't you
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don't like organ that we print we feel
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very strongly the organs to stay inside
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people and this is the first time in a
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random track history although around the
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track has not been around for that long
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where I had to at the end of the episode
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apologize to the guests because i spent
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most of the episodes explaining how
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awful this episode of Star Trek was why
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do you think it's bad
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well it involves Neelix first to call me
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jet that yeah uh the organ stealing
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aliens make no sense the the ibook the
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long sequences where he's talking where
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we don't actually see his mouth so it's
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just this very static shot for you know
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three and four minutes at a time of
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Ethan Phillips lying there that's a
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little holographic loans with all the
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it's just a bad episode huh huh i
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thought the ends are pretty good
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that's that's the thing that Vivian's
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they are that they they are featured in
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my favorite episode of voyager which is
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one of my favorite Star Trek episodes of
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all time but this is not that episode
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ok i do love the videos i think they're
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really creepy because they're like space
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zombies there i like them and they're
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they're sympathetic if this is just a
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I'm sad for them that they were
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introduced in this awful episode all
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right uh Tony what uh organ stealing
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episode of your achievements
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well i'm not sure if it's directly or
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concealing related you may have to
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stretch a little bit too but the
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original series episode the impact oh
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this is always so high oh you stole it
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from me donuts
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the draft but you stole it for me anyway
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when I rewatched the original series and
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it's like I stumble a little bit Spock's
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brain but it's like I can keep doing i
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can keep doing this there's some
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interesting stuff in there but the
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Empire is the wall that i hit and it's
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just like note work we're done for a
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little while and the empath I I has her
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vocal cords been stolen i think they're
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vestibular so but I Kirk Spock and McCoy
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are captured by aliens and put in an
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experiment that allows them to not have
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any scenery from together and they
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interact with an empath which allows
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them to hire a mime instead but you know
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an actor who would talk and that's
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like--that's the episode yeah it's a
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mime episode this is the one Steve lots
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and his daughter when they were watching
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the original series i think he said this
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on his random Trek episode Scotty sort
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of like they got to the empath and it
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broke them and they just think then
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watched another one or two but they
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really their spirits had been lost at
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the empath it is it is along with
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writing that which survives this is the
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one-two punch that says whenever he's
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like what if Star Trek come back for
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four seasons like um it's not looking
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good guys
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it's not looking good so I'm in a
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parallel universe there's a fourth
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season of star trek that was produced
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star trek was never franchise because
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the four season was even worse than the
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third it was a whole season of empaths i
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just i don't think there's anything in
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that episode that's really redeeming
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just see so many like all the different
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parts that they then packaged together
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our kind of flawed or gimmicky or just
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not very original and then they mix them
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together into like a really gross you
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know stupid they've been able to eat
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dark set with academic scenery very
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little dialogue yet there's not the
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level of like where you have carcass
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talking to Abraham Lincoln into play so
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awful it's always something that happens
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that doesn't have that it's just bad
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yeah i mean i'm trying to I try to think
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of you know what that episode probably
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came in under budget right that's like
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they didn't even use lights I mean come
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no it's it's you know maybe it was a
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real savings for paramount that or do
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not there
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but you know you don't have to pay a
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mind if they don't speak that it's not
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speaking but it's like an extra with the
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mime actually mines pay you because
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their nobody wants to see them
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sorry minds i apologize to mind not
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being strapped episodes months if they
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can't hear you it's okay yeah
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what no that's not how it works alright
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David doesn't mind what is your mind or
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organ transplant related choice for
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worst episode mine is about stealing
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organs from a mine but the enterprise
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episode i think yeah this is what I was
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gonna say you know there are shows that
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i have given up on watching sway i can
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only assume that they're bad episodes in
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that run although i will say that of
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enterprise even when I didn't like it
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love it so much because it is just so
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awful because you hate good things David
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yeah you want
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hey and and you know and the empath is
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certainly like number two or number
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three on my list and you know actually
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yeah i mean they could have gone with
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what does it code of honor from the
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don't spoil it David but i'm not going
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with that good
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you can edit that part out I know you
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want to know by my worst episode might
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there's this restriction about women
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being captains of Starship kind of a
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kind of just a little bit but even that
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you know ok ok I'll go along with that
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it was the 23 sixties what but but i
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will go along with that for the sake of
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the story it's it's mainly that when
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when Kirk is inhabited by a woman he
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turns into I don't know a walking hissy
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it's like what
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the hell it is just and I like Shatner
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but I'm sorry no no it's just every
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moment of that just it just hurts to
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watch there's a there's a special kind
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of entertaining sexism that you get when
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you watch stuff of that era but that
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episode just transcends it in such an
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awesome way that you're just your your
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how you can even comprehend it you can't
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believe it was made even then right well
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be the last line two is like she could
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have had a life as fulfilling as any
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woman's nothing but that's the last
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night in Star Trek however that was it
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oh my god and and you know a few weeks
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later man landed on the moon huh man
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emphasis man landed on the moon David
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that's such a bet that because that
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episode isn't so bad it's funny that's
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like painful on multiple level bad even
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let that be your last battlefield is god
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its moments but I mean the running is
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awesome
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Frank Gorshin running but yea alright uh
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David hinted at it but he didn't pick up
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some ticket code of honor on a
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next-generation this is the episode
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where they said let's let's that will
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have an episode that's based sort of a
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society that's based on a sort of feudal
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china will put everybody in like a
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little silk outfits but we'll have them
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all be black and they'll be really
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behind the times and and sort of savages
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like what could go wrong with that
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yeah and again this like act like a
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turnabout intruder this is an episode
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that is painful bad it's bad it's bad
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dramatically it's especially bad
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socially where they're trying to be all
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like elevated and liberal and we love
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everybody and yet in doing so they they
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are repeating some of the worst clichés
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and stereotypes and it's just it is and
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i like it less even than justice which
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would have been my choice which is where
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Wesley is sentenced to death for
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for walking on the grass well he was he
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was asking that is truly about that
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that's bad but it's got the one good
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thing about it is just got that sort of
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mysterious protecting alien that is
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beyond their with the ability to
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comprehend and I thought that was kind
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of cool where's code of honor it's just
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hey here's a planet that's got this
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weird society there's a runaround plot
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its it's so bad it's unbelievably
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offensive i have i have a story about
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this episode actually so you know i was
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i was like a child when this first came
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out so I'd never seen like TNG the first
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time season and my husband bet me a
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hundred dollars i could not watch the
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entire first season of technology and
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not watching anything else in between
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think that was all i could watch because
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he submitted his code of honor justice
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oh my god and I got through I got
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through encounter at Farpoint and like
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all this really bad yeah everybody's
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doing nothing this way this episode was
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like the roger moore movie era start
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right there was just so bad and you're
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just trying to get through it because
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you know like there's better stuff on
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the other side of it but I'm just I'm
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watchlist in between my fingers over my
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face it was so bad and they actually the
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descriptors bad the acting is bad the
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line i remember here is a one of the
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people on this planet says yes yes
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please prepare it and it is the most
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painful pack need badly acted pretty
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please prepare it terrible it is it is
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it is offensive and awful and the first
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season that's rough you but really think
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about the third season of the original
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series the first season of the next
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generation that is there's not a lot of
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good there isn't there some nice
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continuity and quality
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yeah I could probably go with like
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almost the entire first season most of
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the second season of next-generation
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large parts of the third says it all
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right uh so what should we do should we
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do some more episodes should we move on
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to another category want to do another
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round episode so you want to move on i
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like talking about bad episodes this is
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good podcast right where we will go one
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more round a good and bad episodes then
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Breanna you got a good one for us a good
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one okay
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Wow see I could sit here and
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passionately talk about like all my all
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the best episodes of Voyager but I think
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like we were talking about to get really
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heavy issues so I'm just going to talk
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about one I found like awesome and that
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was best of both worlds it was in the
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theater I here recently in boston and
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you like most of TNG I just never seen
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it was too young when it came out and it
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was so unbelievably good i mean was it
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could have been a movie it was so good
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and seeing in the theater with a bunch
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of Anya Star Trek fans there was just
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awesome energy they're like you have a
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really compelling female lead in that
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episode was her name do you guys
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remember arm
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Shelby Shelby Shelby was done here right
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she is awesome
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you've got your Picard being turned into
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your Borg and like the dick chain of
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command being upset on the enterprise
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and it's just a fantastic episode like
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yeah I can't say anything negative about
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it maybe the second half of it was nice
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awesome awesome is the first but just
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really like the very best of Star Trek I
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felt yeah but I think that's yeah it's a
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classic I've been curious to see the one
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where they what they showed in the
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theaters is where they edited together
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and have it be kind of like a continual
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like movie movie thing where they take
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the two episodes and stitch them
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together at what the the anecdote I know
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about that is that the the guy who wrote
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Michael piller wrote that episode he was
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not intending to come back the next year
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and so he literally had not figured out
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what would happen after that classic I
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think that cliffhanger is really what
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brought next generation into the public
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consciousness everybody was talking
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about the clip i think i think it
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brought back the cliffhanger honestly
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for a because that's it where everybody
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was talking about somewhere about mr.
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war fire
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it's like oh god they're gonna blow up
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Captain Picard what's gonna happen and
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uh and apparently he ended up the writer
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ended up coming back to the show and and
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having no idea to resolve it and then
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configure because he's just not plan to
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eat he thought it was gonna be somebody
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else's problem he was just going to move
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on and it does have that feeling like
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you're like I don't even know what where
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this is gonna go I don't feel like he
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seeded any
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no but many plot twist that I can figure
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out over the summer it's just like nope
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no idea and it's a great great cliff
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hanger and and I mean the first have
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always preferred the first half to the
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second half and and because exactly that
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it shows and but that is a great
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cliffhanger
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it's the best I i really like the the
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character of Shelby because i think you
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know TNG generally speaking kind of
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fails and succeeds at portraying women i
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think um and I just I really found the
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idea of a character that was really
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really driven in which really aiming
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towards being the starship captain but
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was maybe a little bit
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no not so super diplomatic about the way
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she went about it i just i found that a
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more compelling character than say
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Beverly Crusher and I don't know I just
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I thought it was fantastic overall I
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always meant thought that they mented to
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make that cause she ends up spending a
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lot of time with Ryker and that it's
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really like the Riker this is what you
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were like you've gotten a lot better but
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this is you a couple years ago when
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you're like a little too out of control
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and you haven't learned and now he's in
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the in the seat of having to sort of be
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the Picard figure to her which was it's
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a real shame that they didn't bring that
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character back because that was a really
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great character she was in some of the
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novel's she's in Peter David's new
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frontier novels sure but they but it's
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too bad they didn't bring they didn't
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bring her back on the show because that
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was a was a great character best of both
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worlds a classic perfect pic beautiful
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Scott what do you got ah well it's it's
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a toss-up between the two episodes for
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me i'm going to pick the one that I is
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actually good good good good strategies
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got see I've always thinking the other
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one introduces the character that i like
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but trials and tribulations deep space 9
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episode in which the crew of deep space
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nine go back in time to the trouble with
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tribbles episode of the original series
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which is delightful
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it also gives us a glimpse into the
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bureaucracy of Starfleet where we find
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out about the temporal investigations
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unit who they start off the episode in
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Cisco's office grilling him about why in
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fact he went back in time and you know
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those guys those names are dumber and
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Locksley which are just anagrams from
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alderans
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darling that's right and they have a
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good line about how they hate Captain
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Kirk because he's always messing with
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this is the worst he is the first and so
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there's lots of great things this is the
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episode in which you know that they
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travel back in time and so the fish nine
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crew looking at the Klingons in the
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trouble troubles who do not have ridges
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on their heads and they turned to a
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wharf it was wearing a fur hat who's
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wearing fur hat he's taken Spock's
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disguise
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yes and they're like what's the deal and
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Worf response we do not speak of it
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without with a look that suggests no
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follow-up questions are going to be
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well done David what do you have if if I
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transdimensional aliens get mixed in
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program but I can't pick a holodeck
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program our holiday episode so I'm gonna
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enterprise I've seen out partly because
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it just starts off i mean it it can't it
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why you cast him and and like make him a
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enterprises relatively close in time and
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first contact with an end and actually
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really know it so you see the Voyager
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through yeah that's true thank you and
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no yeah Harry Kim is dead again maybe
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this time for sure
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what's great what's great is it to do it
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it plays with your expectations of the
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reset button of an episode so when it's
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revealed that there's another Voyager
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what that's perfectly fine and has not
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had the crap kicked out of it and Harry
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think you think Oh see this is this is a
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cheat and the beauty of it is what ends
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up happening is that that Chinese
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Voyager actually gets attacked by the
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vidiians and they all get like their
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organs taken out and they send I think
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it's the the incidence baby because the
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baby died and the other Voyager and and
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Harry Kim through back to the broken
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Voyager and they blow up the healthy
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Voyager and the broken voyager is the
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one that we keep and it's a great twist
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is one of that one of my favorite twist
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but i'm not going to take it i'm going
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to pick trouble with tribbles which
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already talked about let's talk about
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bad episodes one more time
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Brianna you got something for us alright
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very bad upset so okay I've got a
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critique avoid represent this time
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threshold is a whole first of all like
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it really says something that the worst
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episode boardroom picking here doesn't
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involve Chakotay because he sure your
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guide to bad Voyager like if Chakotay is
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the main character it's definitely top
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10 worst episodes of Voyager ever but um
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no I'm going to say I it's got to be
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threshold so if it had have you guys
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ever read the book the physics of Star
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Trek that kind of explains some of the
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stuff about the universe if you guys
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ever read that
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yeah yeah okay so like the war factor 10
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your theoretically existing at every
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point of the entire universe
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simultaneously and said in this episode
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they go past warp factor 10 which is
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defined as the continuity error but it's
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completely stupid what happens on so
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they end up like Tom Paris ends up
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evolving and a ball
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something involving so he and Captain
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Janeway like evolved into lizards and
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have sex
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nothin have offspring and then somehow
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the doctor brings them back but it's
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just it's an abomination in every sense
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of the word it's like it's not
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respectful to the cannon is just painful
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to watch
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it's it hurts like physically hurts so
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all my god it's it's it's bad i would
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say tying for it would be the fight
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which is this Archie Koty episode where
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he hits he's a boxer the whole episode
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and they like ran out of money or
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something so the entire episode 7 of
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boxing rake it's like you know trying to
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fight this this alien because of mind
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control or whatever that's what that
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actually is from the creative team that
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brought you Darmok by the way the fight
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so much
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that's it that's a German oski Wow
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Chakotay in dreams are a bad combination
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of lucid dreaming you mean you would
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think he would talk to the writers at
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some point like put them aside like come
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on guys I think he was actually pretty
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candid with about how and I think he
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can't even get into some trouble with
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you know how openly disdainful he was at
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the dialogue he had to read for his
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character you know but it's a job right
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i mean he has its job seven years of
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episode pays pretty good all right Scott
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Scott bring us down
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what do you have well i'll do what i
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could do so
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season one of the next generation has
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many awful episodes in it so many one
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awful episode that is also perhaps of
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the police are here again because it's
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perhaps the one of the artists episodes
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of the next generation and one that has
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the most far-reaching consequences but
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they never pick it up is conspirators II
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know I was just going to say that which
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is an awful episode in which little
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aliens it infect the high levels of
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Starfleet and are moving people around
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and doing all kinds of
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bad things and the you-know-what
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jean-luc figures it out and they're the
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end is perhaps one of the most
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horrifying scenes I've ever seen Star
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Trek where they blow up the Queen
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symbian and it is extremely graphic that
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makes you think i'm watching Star Trek
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episode well and it's stop-motion
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animation which they never really did
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again so it looks sort of like the end
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of Raiders of the Lost Ark on a really
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bad budget and you see the whole life
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ribcage its very nature as a kid I was
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like I that's also the same episode
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where they eat the conspiracy people eat
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meal meal worms right yes and Riker has
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to like put and it was like those are
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probably the two most disturbing things
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in next-gen for me as a kid and they
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were in the same episode and then it
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never goes anywhere and i gotta say I I
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felt really bad because the the actor
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who plays remick in that who then turns
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out to be the symbian and all that is
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also a playwright who just won the Tony
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and all for all the way the story bad
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LBJ and he's a really good player right
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and when I met him I said I'm a Star
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Trek fan and he looked at me and said I
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am so sorry I left his kids if you if
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you eat mealworms you can go somewhere
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like out yeah don't tell me you took the
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right let me well done
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wow yeah that was that was what and
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what's funny about that episodes they
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were really setting it up is this was
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going to be a story arc thing that we
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were going to take through and instead
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they're like he had no we're never going
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to speak I i thought i thought it could
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have been a cool art I really do
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bye yeah it's yeah i mean they should
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have done something with it yeah I kept
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waiting for them to come back i remember
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those scenes and that just that freaked
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me out so hard I remember that my god
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what's going on
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alright Tony what you have I have I
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believe the title of it is a move along
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home which is oh yeah
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move along home move along
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oh and I mainly i mainly drawing from
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the original series next-gen ds9 because
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otherwise every watch the most of but
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and you know there's some bad episode
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was a lot of them a lot of like some of
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the ones you have mentioned like I just
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don't even remember
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number are so they're probably worse
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than the ones i'm remembering as bad but
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move along home is a basically just a
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complete throwaway episode in the first
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season of deep space nine where a bunch
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of aliens show up and like that's that's
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like half of the you know half the plot
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of the most ds9 episode just in the
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first couple seasons like people show up
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coming through the wormhole because
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they're doing trade even though they're
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coming with objects that we don't
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understand that didn't fit somehow
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understand that didn't fit somehow
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willing to pay money for which they
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don't totally understand either so like
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a bunch of aliens show up we're never
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gonna see them again in the entire
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series ever and they and they show up
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and they're hanging out the bar and like
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they're basically bored with the dumb
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games that Clark has and so they want to
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play this crazy game where your
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teleported into this weird place and
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have to solve little puzzles and it
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seems like you know you're in lethal
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danger if you don't solve the puzzles
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but in reality you're not and they solve
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the puzzles 13 work and everyone's okay
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and like there's just there's nothing
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there right i mean i don't think nothing
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advances in terms of the overall plot i
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don't think we really learn much about
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the character the other thing the main
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characters on deep space 9
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I don't know if there's a lesson is the
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lesson you can you can't trust scary
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aliens because they're not actually
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going to put you in mortal danger even
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if it looks like it is i don't know what
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the lesson is I liked this episode only
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because i have h a weird fascination
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with the games on Star Trek because
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they're always so odd and this is the
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quintessential log game on Star Trek i
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prefer the one that they played the
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google glass when they play which you
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yeah that the game yeah the game that's
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so i would consider the game the
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quintessential game but where where it's
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you know with with amazing future
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graphics where it's like you know about
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starts the next generation version of
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no it's the next it's at its ball and
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cup but you put but I your I love that
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episode but the graphics are really
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terrible well it's the best they could
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do ya know um so yeah there are probably
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other ones but that one stand that one
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much and that episode just you know
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there's other ones in there filler but
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that's just there's no point to that
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episode
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David well I mean again there's so many
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to choose from we say this with love as
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Scott always says on random track we
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come from position of love and then we
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have to mention the terrible things and
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i'm i'm just i'm going to plunge in its
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it's the outrageous o kaanha frogs that
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season 2 of next generation which the
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whole time if you're watching O'Connor
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and thinking man this guy's like Harry
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Mudd well it was supposed to be Harry
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but as if that wasn't bad enough it also
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has data learning how to be a stand-up
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comedian from joe piscopo Joe Piscopo
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child has kept its Billy Campbell Billy
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Campbell is a comma and he's fine it's
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just it's you know it's it's it's the
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joe piscopo part that really kills me
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I mean because the whole time you're
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watching the almost like halfway decent
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story and then they go back to the the
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stand-up comedy
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well it's not it's not really a halfway
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decent story because it's like a sitcom
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plot it's like hey he got this girl
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pregnant and the hospital parents on a
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one-part planet are angry but then it
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and then there's other parents on this
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other planets that are angry and it
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turns out oh it turns out that it's a
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boy from one planet that girl from
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another planet and they're the ones he's
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the one who got her pregnant not the
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captain who shuttling back and forth
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oh what a misunderstanding i'm just
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going on the low bar of the stand-up
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comedy part well it's true and guidance
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teacher data the importance of something
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or other and 1500 don't have she teaches
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him don't worry about the jokes it's the
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monologue and embodying the characters
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for your 1000 yeah i love i love his the
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the Wardrobe of the scamp because he's
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got like a happy pirate shirt yeah and
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like a leather jacket and he's got like
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captain picard Coulson broccoli my
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accent and it's just a poor bridge but
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if he all he always whatever episodes he
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for that but I've always thought of him
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stand-in for the star trek audience you
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more and I mean he's a he's a great
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character he's on episodes voyager is
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super likable the TNG upset season it's
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great so yeah I think he's good
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yeah he's a that's a great is a great
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character i like i like multiple
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episodes with him in it too and yeah we
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refit surfaces on Voyager it's fun to
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see him again like a of all the
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characters to bring to bring back and
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regular but they still floated and back
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where you become super intelligent
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neurosis to neurosis so he's got his
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hollow addiction
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he's got his fear of transporters and I
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don't even know what happened to the
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hologram thing again and voyager i don't
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know what what he goes to next yeah you
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really feel like like try probably
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should have screened him out of like he
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he shouldn't like he should be as
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politics autographs or something
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becomes obsessed with saving Voyager
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that's really his crazy figure waiter
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i'm going to choose Elim Garak from deep
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space nine who is the Cardassian spy /
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Taylor I'm just a simple tailor just a
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simple tailor i love like all the season
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i love his dialogue and I love his
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banter with bashir and his interchanges
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with cisco and he's just great and he is
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you know the whole premise is that he's
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this kind of exiled spy and you know is
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he is he just a tailor probably not he's
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not a tailor but that's you know that's
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his front business and you know he goes
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from being this kind of a background
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character in the early seasons two
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incredibly important in the major plot
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points in the in the later seasons and I
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just I think he's great and there's we
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learned a lot about him and his family
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up one of our windows into how you know
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what is Cardassian lifelike and I think
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he's great
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or at least very interesting maybe not
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like a great person I don't know if I
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wanna hang out with him but in person i
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like seeing his stories so he might kill
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me he has a quality like every scene
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he's in you cannot take your eyes off
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him because he's that captivating an
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actor it's something about his eyes too
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he's great that's a great character
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under all that Cardassian makeup still
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manages a great performance just a
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simple tailor he's just you know he can
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be running secrets to the Cardassian
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government and then also he will start
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that collar for you
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amazing and I always thought that the
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you know the Obsidian order and the
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sauce ER and then we you know we find
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out about the Federation's equivalent I
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mean to me it was interesting that
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there's like you know we have this you
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know utopian thing where everyone was
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great everyone scientists and explorers
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own secret police and you know and
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that's NSA equivalents whatnot so I like
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yeah all right good one David well you
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know I'm I'm i love all the the various
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characters but i'm going to pick a
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captain and I know Archer Austin yes no
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uh-huh you have two rigid arrogantly
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enterprises get ya some TLC rammer
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kelsey grammer oh yeah oh yeah no I I'm
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gonna go with Captain Picard partly
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because I mean growing up Jim Kirk was
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my hero
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you know I mean along with Jim Rockford
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and Thomas magnet all but but and and I
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love Ben Sisko and i love the other
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captains but they all their sort of
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partial characters right
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they all have their thing right Kirk is
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just a cowboy hero and cisco has lost
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his wife and his the emissary and they
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just have a thing where is Picard is
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kind of I mean obviously he came before
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the later captain's but he's a synthesis
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of all of these different elements
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because he is heroic like Kirk and he is
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like Cisco me is like our journey is
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like anyway but there's a tragedy to him
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there's a tragedy but a tragic quality
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to him especially when you get two
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generations and you find out that his
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brother and his nephew have perished and
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he is the end of the Picard line and the
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thought that he's he's going off right
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he's exploring the universe he's doing
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this this thing and he's probably never
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going to get married he's probably never
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gonna have kids that he knows about not
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counting Romulan clones god I hated that
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movie anyway but you know that there's
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there's just this this gravitas to him
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and and especially in like an episode
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like the inner light which I could have
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picked as it as a favorite episode just
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patrick stewart even without saying it
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even without it being the text of the
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episode it comes through and the fact
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that he's living this life with all
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these things that he's never going to
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have is just heartbreaking at the end
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and it's wonderful when he when he picks
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up the flute and he's remembering that
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life but it's still just a memory
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it's still just part of this experience
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that he's had and so there's he's of
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fully fleshed-out character where the
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other captains are good characters i
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like them but i would want to hang out
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with John Luke Picard I'm not gonna say
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a bad word about that I'm not comment I
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have nothing bad to say about to like in
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fact i won
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Deep Space nine first came out and like
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one of the like mein kind of this plot
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or character points for cisco is that
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like he didn't like Picard like that
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kind of like well it's like well I don't
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like this show them because Democrats
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right he is a saint that was like the
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big stumbling block in the beginning the
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two things that screwed up Ben Sisko the
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first thing was he hated gianluca card
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the second thing was they made him grow
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hair avery brooks needs to be bald with
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a goatee once he was boom Francisco's
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great i was watching a william shatner
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did this documentary called the
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captain's right and they that they broke
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and did some extra footage so each
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captain has a 30-minute a special
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devoted to them and a lot of it is
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William Shatner getting them to talk
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about William Shatner which is
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interesting you know but I want to be
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able to think of me i watch the Avery
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Brooks Brooks section and he talked
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about how he was so mad that they made
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him grow hair and shave off his goatee
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because he didn't he didn't think that
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was true to the character and then once
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he could have the way he wanted to look
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he the character click for him he's
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dynamic he's just dynamic that way a
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line must be drawn
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yeah yeah yeah no I really i thought
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that line right there
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I think some of the best acted moments
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and all of Star Trek are by you know
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Captain Picard and I think like Star
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Trek has so many fantastic actors and
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actresses but i really do think he has a
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a level of quality beyond any of them
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and I I i think is great for that reason
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and even even in the worst episodes of
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an exploration you still watch because
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he's just so good
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o tea hot indeed all right I'm gonna
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wrap up the positivity with haha with as
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you do now well you know I could order
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this but I'm not because David you're
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right in pointing out the enormous
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danger potential in any content with
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life and intelligence is fantastically
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advances but i must point out the
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possibilities the potential for
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knowledge is equally great risk risk is
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our business
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Captain Kirk it's got to be captain kerr
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it's gotta be generator Captain Kirk
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Captain Kirk
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I you know I and I can't captain kirk i
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have i have known about Captain Kirk
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since I before I have memory of my life
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captain kirk was always there
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I and on the playground despite my bowl
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haircut I always played Captain Kirk and
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not mr. Spock as an adult watching you
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know there are lots of issues with the
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original series but i gotta say i love
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the idea that this is this guy's a poker
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player and that he is always trying to
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work his way out of these jams with
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deception and trying to talk his way out
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and trickery and yes he will rip his
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shirt and hit you with two fists on your
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back in a fight if he needs to but he
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could also talk a computer into blowing
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itself up and has many times so i just
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love i just love it and the shadow thing
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I mean Shatner Shatner Shatner is
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Captain Kirk I I it is this crazy
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larger-than-life iconic kind of
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performance and and so I have to go for
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it and then you know the movies actually
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gave him some interesting depth that
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played up sort of played against the
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archetype that they had done in the
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original series and I thought that was
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really interesting most particularly in
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star trek to that they they they forced
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that character to deal with the common
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the consequences of being that kind of
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person and I thought that was good too
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so you know he's just part of my life
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the first time we actually learned
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something and grows and of course they
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they walk it back in the third one but
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still you know he just that story he
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goes through such an amazing art for him
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and i gotta say you know if it weren't
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for for that character I think I mean
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and and I mean Kirk Spock and McCoy as a
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trio are just brilliant
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McCoy's McCoy such a great character too
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if it weren't for that you know there's
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a reason we know Sherlock Holmes there's
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a reason we know Batman there's a reason
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we know these these larger-than-life
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characters Kirk is right in that mold I
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don't think we'd have the other series
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if it hadn't been for just the the
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largeness of James Dieker have probably
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ask you do you do you like candy find
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him a pale echo do you think yeah I
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that these kids that these characters
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Spock and McCoy especially the dynamic
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there although I have to say Karl
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Urban's performances made me really
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appreciate what a great character bones
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everybody else's decisions and be that
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irritant for everybody else to not get
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not get complacent and I think that's a
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great role in drama to have that guy
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there to throw some elbows and make
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everybody uncomfortable but but i do
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like Chris
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fine he is the way that characters
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Abrams movies is I think true to the
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core of of Captain Kirk so I I did
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appreciate that i find him less annoying
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personally except I'm not like the
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captain kirk of the movies because that
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is a character with gravitas and he
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feels icky is less of a of a teenager I
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think the Starship around the galaxy
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baby so I don't know i really like
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christman let's send listen strong and
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will end negative branded wait wait
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bring cart cart somebody out
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oh man ok forgot to tell you know I
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could blast too
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there's so many bad characters good last
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year she's so many on the particular
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series in particular right now huh
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you could blast Chakotay you could you
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just I love his burritos though they're
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doing stuff
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yes double chicken irie complete failure
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as a character never as an are you don't
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know just just terribly boring i'm going
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to be the unpopular person here and say
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I don't particularly like McCoy yeah you
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know he didn't go to old Miss which i
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did but neither out
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I know but he's such a debbie downer he
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is his so negative all love it thank you
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ruthlessly negative you remember that in
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the I think it's a bit and it's in a
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Saturday Night Live sketch when Shatner
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was hosting but it's that it's that
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moment where I think it's phil hartman
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is McCoy chatter says bones i can you
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check this guy out I think he's sick and
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and McCoys damage Jim I'm a doctor not
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all right yeah yeah just negative all
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the time for no reason I realized it
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like 40 plot perspective he exists to
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kind of he's an irritant he makes the is
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inherited it's what he's he's a human
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he's he's us going why why are you doing
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that to explain why they're doing what
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they're doing sometimes or yeah but I
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think despite not like unless characters
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the the king of terrible completely
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unredeemable Star Trek characters
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is Neelix if it's wrapped up you tried
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to make my peace is a lot of it's very
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so much and you know it's like when you
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watch alien 3 you're trying to talk
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myself into it being a good movie i mean
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i can see what they're doing here
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it'sit's okay but he's so annoying you
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so awful in every scene he's in
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especially not one where he loses his
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lungs he doesn't stop talking either you
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think you don't have love that you're
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gonna be quiet no not really annoying
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oh my god yeah nobody is gonna argue
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with you about me lyrics got a reason i
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caii watch that episode where they're
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all they all have nightmares that
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because it was on random track and
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that's one of the coat a dream episodes
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oh thank you can but it'sit's Neelix in
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his pajamas serving hot cocoa in the
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mess and it's like no no I just came i
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kept thinking I Neelix is a character
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that looks like he smells bad trying to
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take a more sympathetic view of it it's
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like pork is annoying but court serves a
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narrative purpose of like showing the
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worst of human nature yet Frank nature
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but you know yeah as a it's showing the
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worst tennis with Star Trek showing the
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best and and I just I I don't understand
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what they were trying to accomplish with
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Neelix I mean maybe
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welcome to the Federation if you've
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never seen a star trek series i just
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don't understand it
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I mean what do you think they were
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trying to accomplish well they just
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think the original writer had seen the
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Thundercats and he just thought I mean
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with work if deep space nine is
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casablanca you have to have Peter Lorre
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right you know but Neelix oh so I think
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the high-concept idea with Neelix was
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first off the cast and Neelix we're
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going to have this kind of like weird
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symbiotic it's like we're going to go
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across the Delta Quadrant but they're
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gonna be weird aliens there and they're
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not going to be like what we build WL
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show them around and I mean there was a
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whole idea there
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but it never came to pass and and even
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Phillips while he seems to be a
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perfectly nice fellow was I mean he's a
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UH it's it's a it's not a good fit its
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and the makeup is weird and he doesn't
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do anything and it's not good and they
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even came up with a Neelix's cookbook of
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all the time I in books they did
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yeah and it's it was just it's got this
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kind of terrifying cover of him with a
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chef's hat just looking very jolly and
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the many ways to prepare Neelix for your
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real i am going to christmas stroll
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someone with that gift this year
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together and he looks good but he likes
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cut book to christmas stroll them and
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he's going to be great scott million
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jars haha he likes his lungs enjoyed his
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Josh yes all right that is a great
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nobody's going to argue with you Scott
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you i can't wait to hear who you pick
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that way
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well let's let's stay with Voyager shall
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we let's pick the other worst character
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even I think s has some redeeming value
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Harry Kim I love that episode where he
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dies though and maybe there's another
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one so scared that he gets thrown out of
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voyeurism you just watch that little
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10-minute clip-on unlockable I don't
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know I don't know what Harry Kim is
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supposed to do other than annoy me i
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I've watched several episodes of Voyager
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recently thank you to the random nature
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of random track and Harry Kim has done
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nothing but cause trouble and be a
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bumbling idiot he I don't think he was
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even in the 1i watched longingly he
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should have had his organs too hard that
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it did work out the aliens come if we
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got it we got hairy kids are considered
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you want them
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no no no you can keep doesn't know what
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just put those back my husband's chinese
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and my husband utterly hates their care
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your safety is the worst racist
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stereotype of like asian men because
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he's completely incompetent exam board
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he's a bumbler he never
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it's the girl he is the butt of every
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single joke and it's like the Paramount
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with Tom Paris to like gallivant around
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the galaxy with this you know i used the
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asian sidekick and he's just bad he's
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bad in he does have some episodes where
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he grows as a character and I do think
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he does have an arc eventually but he's
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really annoying for most of the series I
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yep again nobody died I nobody's gonna
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argue the point
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Tony Tony what do you got
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I well Neelix was just at the top of my
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list in like number 1 through 15 or so
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hope haha so I just I just hate him so
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there's nothing below that long but
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let's talk about how much we hate him
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just some more pictures to be links
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again marion222 fix you can throw in to
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fix i would like to draft he looks again
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the ultimate University of clicks so i
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guess to pick one of just kind of off
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the top of my head you know I find nog
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pretty annoying I i think most of the
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child characters are not very well
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written and not very well acted and he I
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mean like some of the other foreign
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characters like seem to have a little
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bit more purpose and you know not gets
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better eventually he just doesn't have
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to die like he doesn't die and that like
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eventually and sixty five or six years
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he'll be okay he'll join Starfleet but
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like there's a long long path in between
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where he is just like i miss and i'm
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going to get Jake into trouble and I'm
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gonna do that getting together and every
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now and then i will get mischievous like
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in a diplomatic situation or something
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very high stakes and I just I I do not I
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do not like that i do not care for nog
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so you can get a good deal on
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self-sealing stem bolts so I'm all about
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Felix temple you don't want to steal
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assembled definitely no it's no good
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who I like that episode but at you know
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I don't like knock every time I see nog
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in when he goes off to the Academy comes
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back and he's got a little outfit with
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his little like Starfleet colored
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Ferengi hat
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head back of the head thing I it just is
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weird and it seems and and I don't think
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I believe that he sensed sorry I'm being
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racist against foreign keys but it's
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like it's jason but it's not it's just
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it's there's some nice stuff they do
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we're like you know like Cisco makes
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them do like all the worst chores ever
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in order to get like like like you're
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trying really hard but let's let's see
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if we can incorporate some hazing into
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this and he's a true friend of of Jake
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and that's yeah like it's kinda like the
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kind of like take the worst parts of
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Leslie and just you know and then like
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let's make some bring in there and
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really cranked up to 11
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yeah everybody loves the frame David I'm
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going back to deep space 9 0 because the
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seventh season just I it did they really
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need as Redax wouldn't have ya wouldn't
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have been much more tragic to have lost
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the symbionts to and then you know
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you've got it that would have been so
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much more interesting than oh let's all
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try to get used to the new girl and all
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and hey look she's kinda interested in
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Bashir now haha there's irony for you
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and I was just I mean she was a fine
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actress there's nothing that was all the
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writing was just badly badly conceived
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badly written and it took away time from
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what was a really good story in the last
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season I mean as much as I hate Harry
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came and Neelix and enterprise I I found
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her very empty i remember watching those
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episodes with her and I mean tax is what
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the daikon equipmen of all of Star Trek
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and to just you know here she goes from
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being a scientist and a genius and and
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an equal to cisco really right and then
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she goes from that to being you know dr.
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Phil yeah just so empty like you you
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don't you don't there's this razor that
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it'sit's this like softness tempered
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that it just didn't feel true to the
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character at all especially there's so
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much happening in that last season of
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deep space 9 that like it just
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introducing another main character like
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it there wasn't room for that right
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it was I mean I it was i I don't really
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understand what wire
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why are they there right i mean it's
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like because they don't make there's not
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enough room for them to do something
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with that character it so it's just
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there's kind of another character for
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for one season and I yeah
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the Cold War is a perfectly fine actress
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and it's really not your fault it's not
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the it's the how do they deal with terry
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farrell wanted to leave the show and and
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you're right
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why do we need another character going
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into this fine everybody knows it's the
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last season there's so much story here
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I think they were so intrigued with the
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idea of having their the viewers deal
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with the the symbian change because
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that's the whole story of the symbionts
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is that you know you can get to know
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them as one person and then their mix
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differently in another and I could see
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that but it's almost like you want to do
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that maybe you should do that as an
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episode have Dax come back for one
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episode in a different body not to cast
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a new character and again I mean really
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what did they do with that character
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over several stories that they didn't do
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in the very original episode with the
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trail on the next generation that were
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with the early episodes of deep space
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nine with other trail things it's like
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know you've already done the oh it's a
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different person huh
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I you know I think Jett taxes of a fine
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character but I feel like they go back
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to the trail well like a little yeah a
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little too much right i mean i think she
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works great as a character and there's
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interesting stuff to her that's based on
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her past life and there's some good
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episodes in there but like they I think
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they try and get more there than there
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is that they did some other poisoning
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the trail well is that what your time I
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i did you know they've drawn more water
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than it has somebody fall into the trail
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well uh okay i get to wrap this up and
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I'm gonna see i'm going to try to
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hearken back to what bring on a set of
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the beginning which is you know we're
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going to are we going to end here as
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friends or is there going to be horrible
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controversy that makes people scream and
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that's why i'm going to say Q is a
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terrible character
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and here i think everybody everybody
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likes q right everybody talks about qoq
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QQ right okay well and i remember john
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de lancie from when he was on you know
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soap operas and stuff like that but but
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here's the thing but q.q has some good
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episodes but Q is bad in a lot of
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respects first off there's some episodes
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that are just bad that he was in like
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cupid is a good example that is a bad
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episode it's stupid dumb jokes it's bad
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q is also badly written and an excuse
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oftentimes to make random things happen
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like he's a he's a crutch was like let's
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bring you back he's all-powerful he'll
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just do some stuff and and I feel like
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he removes a lot of drama from a lot of
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episodes because Q is always there to be
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omnipotent and he can literally do
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anything so anything that happens can be
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explained away by the writers being well
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you know it's cute what you're gonna do
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it his appearance encounter at Farpoint
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is not good
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it's a it's it's it's really it's a bad
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episode and he's bad in it he comes back
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in all good things in the last episode
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and that's partly to bookend because he
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was in the first episode
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he's not badly used in that episode he's
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great and tapestry which we did a random
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Trek about but and he introduces the
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Borg in in q Who but even there although
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he's dark and interesting briefly also
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it's a weird episode because you feel
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like the whole thing is like an
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unveiling of the board because he was
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going to come and flip them over there
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and then he's gonna flip them home and
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say goodbye everybody and I just don't
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like that i don't like this omnipotent
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character I don't think he's that funny
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I don't think he has many dimensions I
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don't think Delancy can play as many
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dimensions as they tried to have him
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play and so I guess what I'm saying is
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that any overused him and kept bringing
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him back
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I know and and you know I did I don't
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like you I although I like fuq episodes
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i actually think tapestry is his best
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episode and it's because in some ways
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you don't even know if he was really
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there he's just he could all be in
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Picard's head and i love that I think
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that's a great use of him but I think he
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got over you something he got misused so
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I'm gonna you know I'm gonna say down q
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I i don't agree with you but I think
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it's a good argument I think you swayed
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yeah i know i was i was hesitant at
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first but you made us wait
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I never liked you but I like some of the
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episodes I think tapestry is in fact the
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best episode and it's it says something
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that it's the only its except for the
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finale the only one that doesn't have Q
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in the title which makes you wonder
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again you know was he really they're
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right but that would be the one thing
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that I don't like a cross all the next
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generation is that multiple times
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Picard and the enterprise over their
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existence 2q saving them in the end you
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oh here the board here the board the
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only thing that saves us from i fly i
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flash your way but they're coming for
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you now and he goes away and that pissed
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me off when I watched the first time and
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then every other you know it's like it's
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just how many times do we have to owe
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our lives to queue and and that bugs me
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that just bugs me in terms of the the
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journey of the hero and all that stuff
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it's like no no you guys must love it
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when it comes back later he's like I'm
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gonna I'm gonna pick a bunch of other
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Starfleet officers to harass you happen
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to be honest on shows that you're
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watching right now conveniently I like a
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lot of Q moments and when he comes back
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on deep space 9 is probably my favorite
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q moment because cisco punches him and
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he says shall never hit me
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what about we become sexually obsessed
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with that Captain Janeway that's kind of
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awkward I felt like she's just trying to
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do a job you know and you don't want an
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omnipotent being to become obsessed with
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you it seems like a bad idea
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also also I want to pick you because
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it's just too easy to pick Wesley and
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quite honestly at the end at the end
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Wesley actually got a little bit better
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at that first season Wesley wear these
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Wesley keep off the grass Wesley keep
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off the grass then Wesley basically
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becomes like a cue light right yeah yeah
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wesley wright scott-wesley becomes the
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traveler the traveler
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ah yeah that's good times I feel like
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the most overrated and underrated Star
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Trek character will be a good like
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category for this list on a future
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episode
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alright so I'm going to add that
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overrated and underrated we also have
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like we're talking about best series
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were series best movies and worst movies
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this captain's the worst happens but you
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know what
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that's gonna have to wait for part two
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of Star Trek best and worse we're going
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to come back another time to do even
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more and maybe we'll do more best/worst
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characters to why not o.o who is the
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well there's Maude the barber i was
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going to say map mon amour and we should
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talk about their favorite characters
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with no dialogue
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you know I has spot and Porthos oh yeah
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and don't don't put them together I
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always preferred from the cards fish
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that I can never remember the type of a
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little and it slipped Livingston with
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his name wasn't well no but the name of
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the fish which is you know like 15
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syllables
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it's the International fish of Hawaii
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well I'm not national no that's not
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that's not that fish that's a different
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fish I've seen that fish and but the
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Leah Brahms the SLS the holographic
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girlfriend version the majority can't
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get a real girlfriend so we always give
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them holographic girlfriends I like the
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awkward real-life version where she
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finds out about the holographic Russian
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oh that's so good so sweet so sweet and
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you've been playing date with me in the
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holodeck forage and you thought were
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really have problems yeah that that's
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really awkward
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Derek one of my favorite or gold ducat
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event so golden cock cool to come out
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yeah that's right
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this is a lot more civil that was
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thinking it was going to be this is good
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this is good as diminish my guess is
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there's a lot of places to go here
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yes that's true so we will go there
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later but for this see because then we
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have more star trek episodes in against
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the star wars episodes and we're up the
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ratio because that is our goal here is
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to get more star trek episodes on the
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company you're fair and balanced I am
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trying to get the well I was so I was so
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fair to star wars that i did like a
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billion episodes of Star Wars and and
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you could say that you were to fair I
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think you could and I and and i think he
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just did Tony and I do
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alright I'm going to wrap it up then
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this has been great we gonna do this
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again soon we got we got to this was too
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too much fun Brianna Wu thank you for
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coming back on it was great to have you
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lately and we and we all we all survive
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we're all okay I'm okay okay we talk
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this out we did we all we all leave the
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arena as we entered it
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we're all doing good
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Scott Mykelti thank you for being here
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best and worst theme song haha that's
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not even a contest and of course you
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know we planted a few times because
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people should listen to random track
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which is a hoot where Scott talks to
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somebody about at random episode of star
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track which is forced me to watch these
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weird episodes of Voyager that I've not
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helpful
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yeah and enterprise to know is that
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enterprise where everybody's asleep it's
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like it should be
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Chakotay should appear in a dream except
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this time don't like one of those
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episodes day lord thank you for being
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here thank you and hey stay tuned for
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that Neelix's lungs episode of random
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track it's it's genius
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I can't wait to see who gets that one I
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don't have to watch that episode of
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voyager right i mean i can just listen
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you guys talk about it
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no no you have to watch I'm not
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suffering through that'll no I well I
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guess I'll get there
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didn't you already suffer through it
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alone say their temporal loop here
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what's going on something that's really
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say about about life is you you have to
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watch Star Trek episodes alone when you
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watch an episode a random episode of
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voyager were all O'Brien here and and
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Tony you keep talking i can say goodbye
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to you goodbye Tony my questions thank
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you for being here it's fun and thank
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you for everybody out there you can send
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us your hate mail about how we how we
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said that the your favorite thing wasn't
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or vice versa do that to you love mail
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about how the thing you love
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we also love you can do that until next
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time on the uncomfortable I've adjacent
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cell goodbye
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