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00:00:13 ◼   ► the uncomfortable number 319 September's [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► 2016 welcome back everybody to being [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► comfortable [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► we're going to talk about uh it's [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► actually kind of an old movie but it's [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► not a movie club it is a virus i have to [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► say by request has been on the schedule [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► for a little while [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► it's 1979 alien classic sci-fi horror [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► movie directed by ridley scott starring [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► Sigourney Weaver many other interesting [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► actors in this movie too [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► we're doing this episode in part because [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► it's an awesome old side scary side [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► movie and in part because Anthony [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► Johnston demanded it [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► Anthony welcome hello hello Jason [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► that's not a system i had had your name [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► right next to it for a long time and I [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► like okay let's just yeah that's good [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► let's let's do it it's that's because i [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► was listening [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► oh god what more than two years ago to [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► another to another episode earlier [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► episode of the show and I wasn't even a [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► podcast or the time and you and I'd [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► correspondent a little and you mentioned [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► that will have to do a in some time and [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► I immediately emailed you at 1am from [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► bed saying if you ever do that i would [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► love to be on that episode and so he [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► will and the system works is quite the [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► wheels of the podcasting grind very [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► slowly but they don't eventually reached [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► this point [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► also joining us to talk about alien Liz [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► miles [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► hello hello is this like a regular [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► episode yeah it is [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► Wow no it's not it's not because you're [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► on it's a very special [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► because you're on it is on my list of [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► like this my bucket list thing I can't [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► figure out that we are changing lives in [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► this episode of what I'm saying there's [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► momentous things happening in this [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► episode later we'll have the the dog [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► draft will be happening anyway [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► Monty ashley is also here hi Monty [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► Snoopy oh sorry I mean hello hello just [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► say that pic that so that's a good pic [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► tho say that pic Erica and sign also [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► joins us [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► alright i do that's wired strange so [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► that's like an episode of Babylon 5 [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► people get married without knowing it [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► and Steve let's of course is here [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► because there's gross stuff and this [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► girl stuff in a movie I think it's [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► stabilized hi Steve you have my [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► sympathies Jason for the the general or [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► for thinking because I'm here [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► yeah pictured here is present I feel bad [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► for her now this has been on the [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► schedule for solo has literally since [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► the start of the podcast this has been [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► on your list of things I remember going [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► to see Prometheus specifically because [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► we're going to talk about the soccer [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► that was back today when we thought we [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► just cover an entire franchise in an [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► hour [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► that was good in fact the notes that i [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► have have all four alien movies in the [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► Wow from the time i watch them whatever [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► it was three years ago and it [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► Prometheus was that so what about the [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► alien vs predator franchise Steve no [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► that's not canon finger let's not let's [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► not [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► no no that's the very very dangerous [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► place to talk to see where some of us [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► don't even count alien cubed know for [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► the next one anyway [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► alien so alien is a movie that I think [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► we are all too young to say that we went [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► in and saw the movie and were surprised [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► at what happens in it is that accurate [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► because I always knew this is the movie [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► where somebody has an alien come out of [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► their chests spoilers for alien by the [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► way points for almost 40 year old movie [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► I definitely saw spaceballs before I saw [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► Bailey I think I did too i didn't matter [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► i saw alien in the theater I was seven [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► at the time to be responsible [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► well that's when it was out it's not [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► like I could tell them to lay the movie [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► for another three years until it's [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► appropriate for me not surprised Steve [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► not surprised one bit sudden theater [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► with my sister and but I can honestly [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► say that i was surprised because I had [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► already i had a copy of a alien the [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► illustrated story i think it was called [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► i basically the heavy metal a associated [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► graphic novel written by archie goodwin [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► i think was i believe so and it was very [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► very good and it also included several [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► the scenes that were not yet clipped [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► from the script at the time that the the [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► graphic novel was written right met it [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► was it was a revelation when the dvds [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► and the blue race came out and i finally [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► saw these scenes that I remember being [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► in the graphic novel that were in the [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► movie but yeah the the the chest burster [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► thing was not a shock to me probably [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► wouldn't have been that big shock [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► yeah even if i had seen it sight unseen [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► I hadn't I wasn't surprised me but not [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► because it had been spoiled by reading a [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► comic or people telling me but because i [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► actually read the novelization by alan [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► dean foster I ever saw the movie is [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► really good novelization as well it is [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► and it also featured those parts that [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► were you know sort of subsequently cut [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► out of the script which confuse the hell [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► of me when I first did actually see the [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► movie the eyesore on VHS first and that [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► was what first intrigued me about the [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► about the film was that the aladin [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► foster novelizations on a shelf and the [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► movie poster was the cover for it and I [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► thought they were summarized strangely [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► intriguing about that that cover and [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► that was it's a classic poster is a [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► classic sort even know it [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► it does sort of diverging lot from what [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► actually happens in the movie [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► yes but and the egg doesn't even look [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► like the eggs in the movie it's a it's a [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► hand raised or something as well it [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► certainly doesn't doesn't shoot green [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► lightning out of line and hover that [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► will never happen to our field and even [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► the tagline on the poster i believe is [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► in space no one can hear you scream [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► that's correct but to quote the magazine [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► parody of this movie they make an awful [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► lot of noise I remember this the as a as [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► a thing and pop pop culture just [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► literally aliens the movie where that [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► guy has is a chest ripped open by an [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► alien and purse out and I I had not seen [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► it in fact i read in arthur c clarke not [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► ball 2010 they wanted there's a joke [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► about how they stock alien on the ship's [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► library when they're flying to Jupiter [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► and somebody watches it and says who put [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► this on here these people in the [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► spaceship and at that point I still [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► hadn't seen it but I knew what they were [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► getting and I didn't I probably saw it [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► at not too long after sometime in the [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► late eighties but for me it was all [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► about that one scene and not really [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► knowing anything else about it i mean [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► and then knowing that it was became a [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► franchise I guess the other thing [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► because then aliens came out and was a [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► big hit to and then all the other things [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► happen but I really didn't catch up with [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► the alien franchise and told ya like the [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► late eighties I think I so it was [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► already a franchise when you I think so [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► right when the aliens come out right [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► alien ETS six yeah I'm pretty sure about [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► aliens first and then went back to see [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► alien wow I might have as well I know [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► for sure like Monty I saw spaceballs [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► first and first time I saw spaceballs i [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► think was just on VHS it was with my [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► parents who are big geeks and they [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► actually had to explain the chest sorry [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► spoilers for spaceballs explain the the [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► chest burster seen spaceballs to me [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► because I just didn't really get it [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► because i didn't really know about the [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► zeitgeist of of science-fiction horror [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► movies at the time so they had to be [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► like I don't know it's in it's the same [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► guy from that from this movie where this [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► happened so yeah thanks mom and dad [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► yeah I had also that I had family [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► disapproval when I was just being 10 or [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► 11 and my sister and I used to stare [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► grandparents during summer holidays and [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► often are young son Cole he's only a few [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► years older than us and our cousins were [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► there as well and they were just [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► horrified to learn to be hansung alien [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► or aliens or any had any opinion about [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► alien so when we can we got to watch all [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► three movies which is ok you know it [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► wasn't ok was really weird and scary the [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► most of it and it was probably worse for [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► my sister who was really not kid with [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► like the witches ruled else which is [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► movie that scared the crap out of [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► partners presumably meant for children [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► it's so obvious next step is alien [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► wasn't coping very well this but I want [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► to help very constant comment rate so [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► the chest purchasing wasn't exactly [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► surprised when you've got your own [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► cookbook [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► wait for it wait for our way [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► don't hurt what's your heart you're like [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► yeah ok ok could be just so just chill [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► relax enjoy the tension in the [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► atmosphere instead of you telling me [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► fact after fact that i don't know i mean [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► it was talking I was told [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► oh and this is tom skerritt never was [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► really shocked about how is colin like [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► have no idea tom skerritt it's why are [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► you telling me I still want to be tom [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► skerritt ya see by the time i saw this i [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► had already seen top gun so I knew [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► exactly who tom skerritt us part of the [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► other reason that people were so shocked [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► was because of course he's you know the [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► heroic mail man you looking captain and [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► you know that in itself was just quite a [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► surprise at the time I was twelve [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► thirteen when I saw this I know I kind [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► of been older than 13 because I [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► definitely saw it before aliens came out [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► in 86 and i had a friend who was [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► absolutely obsessed with this movie I [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► mean to like obsessed with this with [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► Geiger just everything and I became a [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► little obsessed but nowhere near on the [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► level of that he was and he was also [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► really good artist so he would literally [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► spend all day like drawing aliens and [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► scenes from the movie and he had all the [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► paraphernalia and it was just crazy so [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► I'd try and get Gerard on your pc folder [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► is a good way to get right principles [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► yeah so yeah I saw this movie a lot when [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► I was you know quite young but I don't [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► know I I think it's one of those things [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► that are it's another of those movies [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► where there's so much that actually [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► isn't on screen that apart from the [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► chest bursting seen does not actually [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► that much in it sort of physical Igor [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► why is that is unsuitable for kids it's [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► just that it's so tense and scary and [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► just herbing yet is not very bloody at [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► all it's really not apart from the [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► Chester yet except for that one scene [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► where everybody gets covered [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► apart from that but that's that's that's [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► really the Soul scene [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► yeah thatthat's particular which is [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► another reason it's so shocking right [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► a parker gets carried off you know we [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► don't see what really what happens to [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► him a Dallas he gets grabbed and you [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► don't see anything that happens to him [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► because he was [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► originally destined to be a future host [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► for an alien and lambert & Parker we [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► just sort of see from the distance and [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► there's blood dripping down but it's not [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► like you see this is not even in focus [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► yeah there's like I have a really quick [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► shot that if you posit you can see what [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► happens when the aliens little extended [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► dead teeth come out and bite it [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► Parker's head but that's about it that's [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► it it's very low-key internet going [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► it's like a slasher movie but the line [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► item for fake blood instead went for KY [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► jelly haha so this is what i want to [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► mention is is that this is a movie with [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► lots of sci-fi trappings that are very [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► interesting i think that it it was a lot [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► i kept I kept thinking as I watched it [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► as most 1970 sci-fi movies do a tone was [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► a huge debt to 2001 but it is a horror [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► movie where everybody gets picked off [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► one by one I think at its core like [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► steve was listing be dead ways everybody [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► dies [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► everybody dies one by one until only [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► Sigourney Weaver is left it is a horror [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► movie in that way and that's one of the [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► things that I think is fascinating about [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► it is that it is it is just a horror [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► movie set in a sci-fi world but it is [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► unabashedly you know a slasher movie [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► where the slasher is not a a phantasm or [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► a madman but a killer alien but [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► otherwise it's just don't you know it [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► it's a slasher movie [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► yeah actually I took a class in college [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► called film styles and genre with David [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► bordwell the american film theorists and [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► historian and the every every semester [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► he would do a different genre and I [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► would I lucked out and got horror for [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► the genre therefore the the semester i [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► happen to be doing it an alien i think [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► was one of the one of the first things [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► that we actually watched and talked [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► about for that class so i have just sort [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► of always seen it as a horror movie [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► because i know i had seen it before that [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► but I had seen aliens so many more times [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► and that of course is not a horror movie [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► that's an actual yeah so my memories my [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► memories of alien are really just Oh [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► abiding Lee paying attention to the [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► horror elements because that is that's [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► sort of how I I really paid attention to [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► it the first time I [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► dug into the film actually the nastiest [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► death by far is has got to be ash and [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► yeah yeah i mean it and and the only [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► reason I think that even would have [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► passed muster as an r rating is because [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► he's squirting milky fluid instead [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► relies yeah it's pretty it's pretty foul [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► if you watch it in the context of him [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► being a human you know I think one of [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► the reasons that this movie was has [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► become so influential is because of that [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► combination of Johnson guess it is a [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► horror movie but it's a really good [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► horror movie and because the sci-fi is a [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► setting rather than the sort of driver [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► in the sense of what we think of as hard [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► sci-fi and also because it does such a [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► good job of that kind of working-class [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► dirty sci-fi yeah you know that you're [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► so funny things like Star Wars but [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► obviously very different context there [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► because the size is setting it doesn't [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► require sort of my friend Frankie [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► cornered leanings in order to appreciate [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► the horror movie aspect of it and you [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► know both of those genres are so [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► maligned schlocky so many so often and [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► yet this is regarded as a classic well [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► in 1979 that was a pretty valid [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► complaint oh sure sure but then along [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► came this and suddenly this was winning [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► awards [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► I mean it literally won an Academy Award [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► I'm indicate was for effect but you know [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► has incredible i like to compare to 2001 [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► for its aesthetic which is the polar [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► opposite of 2,000 ones gleaming [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► antiseptic stanley kubrick style whereas [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► this is even before you see any people [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► it's a spaceship that people live in its [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► grungy even more than Star Wars is lived [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► in universe [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► this is a working-class yes science [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► fiction world which has loved so much [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► it's not campaign it's not guns back in [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► its everything looks as if it's used as [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► if you could just sort of walk into it [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► and start living in that world I agree [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► it's actually we talk about this in our [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► episode about the original Ghostbusters [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► movie but I said I think one of the [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► things about and from 2016 you look at [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► them smoking on a spaceship you're like [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► oh that's a really bad idea [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► somebody's opposition do you guys have [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► but it is a i also read that as I do in [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► ghostbusters as it is also a signal of [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► like these are real people these are [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► like working class people there they're [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► doing a job i think i think i enjoy [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► avocados performance since he's like i'm [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► just so i'm just working here man [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► right i think it's really good i just [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► want my money yeah their banter over [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► their first breakfasts feels really like [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► a an organic conversation I mean these [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► are these are like the space garbage men [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► right so that the first conversation [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► they have is about money [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► Yeah right there talking about their [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► bonuses that's the worried about its [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► really not talking about how amazing is [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► that they've just woken up from [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► suspended animation [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► that's one is not even mentioned you [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► know are there not gimmies that the [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► United space there might be a new world [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► out there you like new civilizations [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► like an antithesis of the star trac [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► optimism this mission is over we gotta [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► get home and get pay well what do you [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► mean where we are delayed we don't want [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► to be delayed [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► yeah this isn't a star trek universe [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► where we've evolved past money make [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► money pay me [TS]

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00:17:01 ◼   ► you there on Saturday October 29th don't [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► when I mentioned 2001 of the way I view [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► it is yeah this is this is a dirty world [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► in a way that the 2001 isn't but but it [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► is the pacing of it the way space is [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► treated I felt like very 2001 it is [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► slow and deliberate and quiet especially [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► at the beginning which serves the horror [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► movie part of this movie that very well [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► right that it that it's using you know [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► could you could argue i guess the 2001 [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► is also sort of horrific and what [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► eventually happens but it's it's a lot [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► of things and we're not here to talk [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► about 2001 that that's another episode [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► that we probably never will do but it [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► would be 10 hours long if we did it but [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► it's it's a slow pace and and all of [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► that I think works to the benefit of the [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► horse stuff but but I definitely felt [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► like the first time we haven't really [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► even kind of broken down the plot of the [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► movie here but first chunk went on the [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► planet especially and their the interval [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► and they get out and all that not only [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► is I think the science questionable in [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► there but uh which okay it's fine [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► whatever but it's just it it feels it [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► feels slow and and frustrating to to me [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► as a modern film viewer but also at the [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► same time really calls back to something [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► like 2001 which was absolutely that's [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► like space is quiet and it's slow and [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► these things are moving very slowly [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► through silence and I did appreciate [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► that part of it even though it's a very [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► different feeling world yeah I want to [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► talk a little bit about that pacing [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► which when I rewatched this the first [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► time three years ago when we were [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► supposed to do this movie I I made a [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► note that you know as much as I love [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► this movie and this is not the fault of [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► the movie in any way but it as much as I [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► love the movie i think it's a [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► masterpiece and i think that the effects [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► and things still hold up very well I [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► agree it kind of doesn't work anymore [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► I you know you said I disagree not [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► because everything seems dated but [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► because it takes so long to get going [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► and for me remembering how amazing all [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► of the sci-fi stuff and all the [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► planetary stuff was as a kid it doesn't [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► bother me because it's me it just feels [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► like a really good slow burn but i think [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► most modern audiences watch this stuff [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► in the beginning and it's stuffed it in [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► 1979 it was groundbreaking and now it's [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► stuff that we've seen a million times [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► and i'm also going to disagree sight of [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► this here especially because we call [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► Dean's is now who will sit through a [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► season of Game of Thrones were so it'll [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► happen they are they love this little [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► bird piece which is great because i'm [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► completely on board with that I'd love a [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► lot of seventies I can certainly see [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► like John audiences and people who are [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► prepared for that sort of a slow burn to [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► appreciate it properly but i-i-i show [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► this to my daughter who's 13 angels [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► minus 14 my son who's 9 was also in the [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► room and he spent the first hour like [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► playing roblox he wasn't really paying [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► attention but she was so bored she made [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► it to the chest burster seeing as I [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► insisted that she at least get and then [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► I just around until Parker got [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► dispatched as well because you at least [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► need to see Kaiser what sort of it [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► trajectory the movies beyond come on [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► kids watch these people die horrific [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► yes you must was that's right it's good [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► for you it's good for the soul questions [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► already she was already lost to me at [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► that point that the interesting thing is [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► my son who who barely saw any of that [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► first hour or so of the planetary [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► exploration he got interested right [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► around the time the chest burster [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► happening closed up roadblocks and he [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► watched the last hour of the movie and [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► really enjoyed it but that first hour is [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► so slow and you know I just I just think [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► that that's it probably lose a lot of [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► people who watch it I used to think that [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► to be honest but and the past 10 years [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► or so whenever we watched it I love the [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► opening stuff more and more and i think [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► i know i don't i can't speak to people [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► generally but i know that for me it's [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► because it really hits that sweet spot [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► of space mystery with the space horror [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► combination and I i just love the [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► atmosphere of that the claustrophobia [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► bits the gradual reveal the tiny Clues [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► you get the hint that they'll do the [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► spaceship thing which is completely ruin [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► everything about it because of [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► Prometheus I can't watch when the scenes [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► big-time people without thinking of your [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► God that other movie which in retrospect [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► actually I wasn't too mad at Prometheus [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► before until i rewatch daily and after [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► and then I got very hungry i still have [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► much for me this I can't bring myself to [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► watch it it's interesting i kinda liked [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► it it didn't hate as far as the slow [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► burn stuff goes I for me I take its seat [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► sort of sequence by sequence and some of [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► it works and [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► some of it I think doesn't the entire [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► opening where they're actually on the [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► ship i love it i love that it has a [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► chance to breathe because likely says [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► you are discovering things in every [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► every shot has something you know you [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► get the human touch of the like the [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► little drinking birds with one of them [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► in motion and one of them not and and [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► all of that stuff the conversations [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► everything is driving you towards [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► something and giving you information [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► about who these people are what the [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► world is like and then you get the [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► sequence of them landing on the planet [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► where you're not really getting anything [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► except this planet is inhospitable in [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► this land is very loud [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► yea so lots of alerts i was really bored [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► during that point because it was slow [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► and wasn't giving us any information i'm [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► fine with slow as long as I'm getting [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► something out of it [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► can you imagine how long that little [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► mechanical roosters been dipping his [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► beak in that glass of internally i [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► wanted to engineer that big what America [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► when I rotate around was I mean and I [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► wrote down this way I feel like a modern [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► science which movie would do some of [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► that stuff at the very beginning better [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► and specifically more detail a little [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► more mystery and yes a faster pace but I [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► feel like that was the thing that struck [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► me is is I just kind of thought I could [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► see how it could be a little more [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► detailed that there was some time we're [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► kind of not a lot was happening and I [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► did feel to Steve's point that you're [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► meant to marvel at the scene that now [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► seems a lot more pedestrian there are [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► other parts of that I think are really [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► great i'm not saying this whole movie [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► would be made better if it was made as a [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► modern blockbuster good god no I'm not [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► saying that but I feel like I feel like [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► it could've been a little more sort of [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► sci-fi detail to intrigue you at the [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► beginning that that it is just not there [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► because i think at the time they figured [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► it was intriguing enough for a spaceship [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► landing on my alien planet what more do [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► you need [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► when you've got a room full of blinking [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► lights that's a computer you can you [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► know but soft landing soft landing soft [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► landings in the bank sorts of computers [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► the more lights the computer had better [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► it is banking and flashing green and [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► watching [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► why does that computer breathe in [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► context in 1979 it's not even that slow [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► pace like a nineteen seventies indie [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► movie will take forever and not do [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► anything sure like to lay blacktop [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► that's my favorite example nothing [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► happens that movie and I love it [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► Steve you you mentioned the influence [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► and that's one of the points that I want [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► to really wanted to sort of bring up was [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► think about I mean how [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► influential this movie is being for a [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► start but also Blade Runner and you know [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► the movie ready Scott made after this he [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► made this blade runner in the space of [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► three years two of the most influential [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► sci-fi movies and in the case of alien [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► horror movies of all time [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► that's kind of amazing you know like [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► almost every movie that's followed since [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► in those genres has paid some kind of [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► debts to either alien or blade runner [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► it's astounding absolutely and half of [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► that I quite like you made terrible [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► movies now I thought the Martian was [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► very very good yeah I i really like the [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► Martian I i have no i haven't seen that [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► we're not talking smack about 1492 [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► conquest of paradise are we but any of [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► us should be so lucky to make even one [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► thing half as good as any other of these [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► movies you know they're just so [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► influential it's almost hard unless unit [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► old farts like us and you've lived [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► through its almost hard to appreciate [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► this sort of before-and-after alien and [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► blade on a state alter cinema sci fi ya [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► know I don't want to suggest there's [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► anything really wrong with the pacing in [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► 1979 I think it's actually almost [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► perfectly paced for the time it was made [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► it's just doesn't it doesn't really work [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► i think for a lot of people in today's [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► audiences got kicked myself forever for [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► this I did not insist that we watch the [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► movie in a darkened room away from all [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► the other distractions and we did that [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► was because that was because my daughter [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► did not want to watch it in a darkened [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► room with the other distractions she was [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► a little she had some trepidation about [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► it she's not watched a lot of horror [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► movies so in order to get to watch it we [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► had to watch it during the day and I [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► think if if she had been locked in where [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► she couldn't get into the other stuff [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► doing physically locked it i'm not [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► talking about clapping and irons it's [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► amazing parenting tips you get from [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► podcast speaking of darkened rooms [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► though actually I did even though [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► obviously I originally saw it on VHS i [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► have seen it on the big screen because [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► the local multiplex where i lived in the [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► early nineties did a double bill of [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► alien aliens it started at 9pm so you [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► can imagine what time will roll [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► out that and how we smelled but the main [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► thing i remember was how much more [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► powerful alien particularly was on the [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► big screen like this was a by that point [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► I'd already seen the movie fifty a [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► hundred times but are seeing it on the [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► big screen was like seeing it for the [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► first time all over again it was [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► extraordinary there were a couple of [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► scenes like for example where the alien [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► reveal in the air ducts when they when [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► he kills Dallas was it i mean you know I [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► knew it was coming and yet seeing get [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► 30-foot high in a darkened room [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► surrounded by the dolby surround sound [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► scared the crap out of me that's such a [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► beautiful shot [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► it's fantastic here but there were a few [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► shots like that where the impact of [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► seeing them at the theater on the big [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► screen really made a difference so I [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► mean what are the chances anybody is [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► still showing alien as a special showing [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► on the big screen but if anybody if you [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► ever get the chance to to see it on the [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► big screen do so because it really is [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► extraordinary that was why I was glad i [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► got to watch in college because we had [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► you know it was a 35-millimeter print [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► brought into the you know that the [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► ballroom was great as great as it is to [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► see it in the theater I've got to say [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► the blu-ray of these look fantastic [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► really does this if I didn't already [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► have blu-ray this the alien City alien [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► anthology they call the blu-ray set [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► quadrille is the quadrille into is a [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► dvds sorry you're right it's different [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► made-up word that's it it's a [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► magnificent set it's very well produced [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► but the thing that really blows me away [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► as I spent years watching this on VHS in [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► and scan you know and pan and scan mrs. [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► so much of the detail on the fringes and [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► so much of the framing you know you [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► don't i had forgotten having only seen [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► in the theater once when I was seven so [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► tonight it's unsurprising that i forgot [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► but but those shots were they're [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► approaching the derelict spaceship in [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► pain and scan their boring as all hell [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► because you only get that tiny little [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► that tiny little close-up shot of them [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► approaching the thing when you see it in [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► its full detail [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► uh [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► on the blu-ray you really get the sense [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► of how gigantic this thing is how tiny [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► the crew is in comparison and it makes [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► all the difference in the world [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► those shots are all about scale and [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► weird things with scale that whole thing [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► is like this is much larger than it [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► should be the body as much larger than [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► it should be [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► it's all like that and you you you're [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► right you completely miss it if it's [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► just cropped into the infinite little [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► square and it's gorgeous I mean that the [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► wreath three and whatever the [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► remastering that they did on the picture [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► itself the original movie did not look [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► that good by any stretch of the [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► imagination so let's go to the planetoid [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► I and talk about the crash base ship [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► because this is one of these I mean that [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► we don't have that many settings in this [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► film I mean we're gonna end up on the [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► Nostromo and people get picked up one by [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► one but we start with this spaceship and [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► it's huge and if they see it through the [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► kind of fog of it you ash can you see [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► this [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► there's a spaceship crash they find a [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► dead alien in a chair it's super weird [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► it's hard to understand even what you're [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► seeing it's so strange and and like we [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► said the scale of it is completely [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► strange and it's it's a it's a scene [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► that that is a scene that I could watch [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► over and over again because it's so [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► weird and confusing and creepy and i [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► love that movie is basically saying [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► figure look at this what do you think [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► this looks like figure it out which is [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► what it's what I feel like the scene is [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► doing it makes the title of the movie [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► into an adjective rather than and now [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► it's like an HR giger painting looks [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► like your penis is an unusual but [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► otherwise it's a good yeah i lock the [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► others are so many reasons i love you i [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► like because it's forcing you to [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► empathize with the crew and terribly for [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► feeling what they're feeling is there [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► exploring and texting and you know that [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► I don't get that level of connection [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► with a lot of movies and it's also its [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► space horror in a way that's perfect for [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► me because it means i can enjoy being [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► scared was not being scared to leave the [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► room after works because something's [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► going to get me it's that there's enough [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► of a disconnect that's why i'm not a fan [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► of slasher movies because like that the [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► world but spaced far that's brilliant [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► anything can happen space horror because [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► I'm never going to go into rocket [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► because I'd be too scared even if i get [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► so it's fine that's fine [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► this is [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► really why I thought this would be a [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► good introductory horror movie for the [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► kids because that it's like I said it's [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► it's light on the blood and it's [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► entirely happening somewhere that looks [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► completely unlike their daily [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► environment so they can disassociate [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► from from anything yes I as a child who [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► is reasonably easily scared that does [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► help with the Space Jockey seen talking [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► about scale this is where they use [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► children in suits [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► ah when you see longshots those are [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► children wearing spacesuits walking [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► around set to make everything seem [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► bigger so John Hurt decides hey I know [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► what I'm gonna do I'm gonna go down [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► below in this weird thing and find a [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► whole chamber full of things that look [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► kinda like eggs [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► okay and there's things in the end and [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► it's actually one of the moments that I [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► really love in this is when he looks at [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► one at the egg and there's like movement [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► on the inside [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► what's in there and it's so great Ridley [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► Scott's happens that's what's in there [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► and it's lit up by Pink Floyd's lasers [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► appear how it works like I like the fact [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► that the eggs are sweating upwards I've [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► always thought all looking affect the [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► thing that I like about it is is sort of [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► the setup for this that that makes me [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► not annoyed with his choices because if [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► this was a sort of a scientific crew [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► that was supposed to be going out and [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► investigating new world a new life and [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► all that kind of stuff i would be super [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► annoyed somebody who just goes in by [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► himself and starts poking at crap [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► oh god don't see Prometheus this is a [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► bunch of you know workaday folks who [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► want to get home and get their money so [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► then but they're doing what they're told [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► to do just so that they can get out of [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► here and this particular character has [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► some genuine curiosity about this stuff [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► so he does go in and start looking [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► around and poking and and I don't have [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► to be too annoyed at him because you [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► know that's that's probably what you do [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► well he's the one that's all excited [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► he's the one that's excited about going [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► out he's the one that volunteers there [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► was like why am I not surprised because [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► he's clearly the guy who's into the [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► whole you know exploring other worlds [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► stuff it's Kane who urges them to go on [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► as well when lumber wants to go back [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► he's the one who's saying no we have to [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► keep going [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► hang on we've gotten this far time to [TS]

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00:34:07 ◼   ► incomparable the eggs in this is so much [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► more yucky than they are in later movies [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► as well from aliens almost a really sort [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► of cleaned up and streamlined all the [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► alien stuff including the aliens [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► themselves and especially these words [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► these eggs are horrible leathery oh yeah [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► I love the shot when it opens and you [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► see what looks like uncooked chicken on [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► the top with vain [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► yeah exactly how is a ladder or [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► something awful and and so he gets a [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► thing of space groups who was expecting [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► nice job dummy talking about pacing by [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► the way just here sometime code stuff [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► for you that happens at 34 minutes [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► almost exactly half an hour later is the [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► first kill [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► haha yeah and almost exactly [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► half an hour after that is the ash [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► revelation so the whole film is divided [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► into 30 minute chunks [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► I would have loved to see this movie and [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► not know which a horror movie because [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► it's called alien and you have a half [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► hour of just screwed around on a [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► spaceship you're thinking all right [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► space movie [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► where's the alien then my god what [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► happened [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► yes if they call this movie like space I [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► scholars or something and that ice road [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► spacers something like it seems like [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► we're kind of going through the plot at [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► this point so yeah I wanted to to bring [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► in how much I appreciate having seen it [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► a million times how well they do the ash [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► plotline and how subtle the indications [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► that he's not entirely human [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► yeah kind of come in as you go along [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► like and how he sort of suddenly pushing [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► them to go investigate even though [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► nobody really is that into it except for [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► Cain like a there's a point early on [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► where they land the ship has been [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► damaged and Dallas a like well we can I [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► think it's actually can says we can't go [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► out and this because it's a you know [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► it's nighttime and it's cold and the [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► winds of space or blowing him and asks [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► hopefully chimes in well mother says the [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► sun's coming up in 20 minutes [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► she's the one who also persuade your [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► coast character that he should so they [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► should investigate the beacon remember [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► when they're right [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► no just telling them all that yeah that [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► we've had the SOS and he's like well [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► that's not in my contract and ashes on [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► his life actually it is and if you don't [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► go you'll lose all your shares right [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► money and really wants to go out and [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► inform them that it's a warning and not [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► a got call for help and he's the one who [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► have chimes and well it's not much point [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► in going after him by the time you get [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► out there they'll know whether it's a [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► warning or not so you know no bother [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► ok I really have to go watch this again [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► because all of this i mean i'm not [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► exactly good at picking up and sort of [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► plot hints that this is a luchshe never [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► note and then later Ripley won't let [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► them back in which is 100-percent the [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► correct thing to do slightly round and [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► ok just taps on the little opener go on [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► in uh-huh i think my favorite to my [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► favorite early bit like this is when [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► he's getting ready to take his position [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► at the console to watch the away team go [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► out he does this really weird little jog [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► in play before he heads over there and [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► it's it seems completely unnatural it's [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► like he's got some sort of a glitch in [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► his system and he's like somehow by [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► moving is his bits around he's like [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► breaking rust or something [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► I think that's meant to be i mean i [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► don't know but i I've always wanted [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► thought that's meant to be a signal to [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► us for later that there is something [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► wrong with him that he is malfunctioning [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► because you're right there's no it's not [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► like he's about to go on any kind of [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► physical activity there's no point to it [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► whatsoever i think that's one of this is [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► one of the things that this movie does [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► very well to add this entire plot point [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► about ash and about the reason that this [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► is all happening and I this is one of [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► those cases where I think a modern movie [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► would completely mess this up because [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► they would a modern movie would say well [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► we need to have all these reversals of [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► about how they all got set up and they [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► need to find out that this was always [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► set up in the beginning and it needs I I [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► just feel like a modern movie would [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► really do a bad job of this because it [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► would make they would make it more [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► integral to the plot in and and the fact [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► is it's not necessary it to have this [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► happen it's it's cool that it happens we [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► don't need a reason why we have a movie [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► where a spaceship lands on a planet and [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► they get infected with an alien and [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► kills them all but uh but it's a nice [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► bit of additional seasoning to vote to [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► the reason why it happens there was a [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► conspiracy it you know these people were [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► set up and then you get the reveal with [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► ash which is such a great sci-fi moment [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► in a horror movie that it's great I just [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► I feel like it is the it is a perfect [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► level of integration with the plot that [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► a modern movie would screw up because [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► they try to do too much with it [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► this is why when I show this to this to [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► people who already know about the chest [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► burster seen I'm not too bothered by [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► that because the ash reveal is so well [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► so what just happened all surprises [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► because that I mean he's spinning around [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► and there's fluid shooting everywhere [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► don't even have the time to really deal [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► with that Parker Knox's head [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► yeah an air tank was some kind it's a [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► fire extinguisher or something yeah his [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► head flies off and he's like doing the [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► chicken with his head cut off things [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► with his hands [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► it's great they use the white fluid [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► because red would look too much like [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► blood but that white fluid is really [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► disturbing shit is like shooting out of [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► his mouth while he's trying to talk it's [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► so great being blowed that's so great [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► now I mean that and that's where that's [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► that's where we won't talk about mixing [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► genres i love that the science-fiction [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► aspect it's layered back in on it's [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► almost like we start with a base coat [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► base coat of of sci-fi then we lay some [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► horror on top of that and then here we [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► get the sci-fi on top of that again it's [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► like what the f what everybody still [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► pretty horrible it is always horrible [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► but it's like sci-fi horrible and that's [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► thatthat's this movie is nice layering [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► of different source port as well because [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► you've got you've got the alien and then [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► you've got you the sense that their [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► cooperation is not super great and then [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► you've got scary android malfunction and [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► trying to kill you as well as that is [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► it's top surface layers within the Clery [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► bits i also love how when they reconnect [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► his head even though he's inside look [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► completely organic you know he sort of [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► like some weird sci-fi organic surgeries [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► and but they still basically use jump [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► leads so yeah I'm gonna take me is [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► inside look like mostly like tubes and [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► boba for some reason I've never really [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► quite understood its gross that's what [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► the insides of people look like Robonaut [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► one of the things that I think most most [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► interesting about the the [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► special-edition DVDs that have the [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► deleted scenes as you really get a sense [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► of how well directed and edited this [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► film was and and and the ash reveal i [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► think is a perfect example of that [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► because there was a an early scene i [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► forget if it actually was a deleted [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► scene if it was just something that got [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► clipped out of the script but there's a [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► scene somewhere early on where Ripley [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► and Lambert are discussing whether [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► either of them has slept with ash [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► yeah because you know you're on a long [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► space trip and basically it sounds like [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► the the standard operating procedures [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► you just sleep around with whoever's on [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► the cruise to keep yourself from dying [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► of boredom and they're both surprised [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► but not entirely surprised because ash [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► is kind of a weirdo that neither of them [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► has actually slept with him and it's [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► it's it would have been an interesting [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► scene but at the same time I think it [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► would have been too telegraphic [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► right now what is becoming a terrific [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► Lou and I love the fact that they clip [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► that out because as much as I'd like to [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► see that scene and I think it adds an [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► interesting sort of wrinkle to the life [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► in space nature of the film the fact [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► that he took it out i think is is is [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► very telling as to how how much care was [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► taken to really make that reveal workout [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► but the paranoia goes then through this [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► whole franchise forward and I i love [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► that aspect of it that that this is not [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► this is not i just love it's not an [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► accident that these people people were [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► horribly killed a corporation decided to [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► essentially not care if they got killed [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► because they wanted to get this alien [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► that's basically the story and and again [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► it didn't need to happen that way but [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► that's that's what it is and then we [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► take for that sort of corporate [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► malfeasance and people being not as [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► important as prophets talk about them [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► talking about money in the beginning in [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► the end this is this is a another [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► financial calculations that's being had [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► that is exposing them to this work it's [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► just an attempt and began use again is [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► one of the most influential things in [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► the movie like you know as someone who [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► has worked on a lot of sci-fi and horror [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► and sci-fi our properties let me tell [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► you oh yeah oh my goodness with the [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► corporation's looking for weaponized [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► supernatural things and prepared to [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► sacrifice the search party at every [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► video game right quickly share price [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► such a cliché right now it's amazing i [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► think it's interesting that that whole [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► storyline the whole ash thing was not [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► part of the script that dan o'bannon and [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► run shoes that put together but it was [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► something that was suggested and then [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► almost forced into the story by David [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► Eyler and walter hill and I i don't [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► think the an abandoned was particularly [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► fond of it but it was something that [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► they thought was a great idea and they [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► said insisted on and I think it's [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► frankly one of the best things in the [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► movie yeah I think that was the right [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► choice [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► yeah he still cashing the checks yeah [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► that's just it just puts another spin [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► it's not it's another thing in the pot [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► right it's just another thing that's [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► happening like it's a it's not just that [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► monster is killing people but it's like [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► and somebody on the ship is setting it [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► up so that that's okay because the [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► bosses don't care but i love the fact [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► that there aren't like a bunch of scenes [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► like a of that makes it obvious that [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► there's a mole on the crew it's just [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► something that suddenly appear yeah [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► ashes head flies off [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► yeah that milk is applied everywhere [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► like oh my god what's going on here [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► it's when he tries to kill quickly that [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► it's really right that's yes first real [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► revelation is like I'm gonna sing but [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► that leads immediately into his eyes and [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► that's one long scene he tries to kill [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► Ripley after we see the memo that says [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► crew expendable [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► yeah that's just what we talked about [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► how well written and directed and edited [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► and shot this movie is it's also got a [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► ridiculously incredible cast [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► yep yeah this movie was made 37 years [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► ago and every human actor in it had a [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► great career [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► except for Yaphet Kotto they're all [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► still working in big properties today [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► and avocados heard the right to take [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► some time off if he wants like you can't [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► just have Harry Dean Stanton and John [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► Hurt and homer standing around this [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► movie does yeah they're not that [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► important well any major starts to go [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► any waiver you know you have cool did so [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► that just looks like let's talk about [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► Sigourney Weaver she is so great as we [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► have talked about her a lot partially [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► because we've been listening victims the [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► final girl she doesn't qualify [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► yeah you got your head fake right where [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► she's just part of the crew but of [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► course she's the one who survives and [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► and and dallas has taken fairly quickly [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► and it is this and she ends up being the [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► one who makes everything happen in this [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► in this movie and ends up being I know [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► it did make a star of her and you can [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► watch it you're like yep [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► yeah i mean totally makes sense that [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► yeah of course ripley earned her [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► survival it's not like she just happens [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► to be the last one she was correct so [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► awfully out a lot of times in horror [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► movies it is just a random girl who [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► survives and I really appreciate that [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► Ripley was smart and just yet barely [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► smart enough to survive and I really [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► liked it there wasn't anything [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► incredibly like grand in her and what [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► she chooses do is just a loss of times [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► she makes very small decisions end up [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► being the correct ones and it's that [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► accumulation of all of them together [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► that I her to survive rather than having [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► a grand revolution moment of oh and this [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► is i will save myself and sat down the [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► cat and back away [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► come to this decision is here that [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► there's a lovely piece of this direction [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► as well because you really want is right [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► for the last 15 minutes of the movie [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► she's the only actor on screen out you [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► know apart from the guy in the alien [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► sushi carries the whole rest of the [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► movie but there is a lovely misdirection [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► before that where is just her partner [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► and lumber left and she goes off by [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► herself looking for the cats looking for [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► Jones and Parker Lambert are paired up [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► and up until this point the alien is [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► only picked off alone people so you know [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► you naturally expect that she is gonna [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► be the one who buys it next [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► so that of course you know she doesn't [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► she's busy triggering the third cat [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► scare in the movie does like a literal [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► cats care less where mystery but i think [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► that's a lovely reversal to sort of you [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► know again just kind of play with the [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► audience's expectations [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► although it is a little depressing that [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► she sends the two of them off to collect [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► coolant which apparently they don't need [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► because she takes none of it with her [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► onto the shuttle right i wish i would [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► have been able to see this not knowing i [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► mean we already talked about the chest [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► burster see which of course I a new but [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► I also didn't I didn't ever see it [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► without knowing that sigourney weaver [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► was going to survive because you know [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► she went on to make the second movie so [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► I hadn't even put that together that the [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► movie is playing with your expectations [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► when she goes off by herself because my [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► expectations were always just that she [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► would survive so okay good job [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► filmmakers a even better than I thought [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► but one thing i really like is the [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► double back that happens we're so the [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► idea is ok there's only three of us left [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► we're gonna self-destruct and we're [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► going to get out in the shuttle and that [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► doesn't go well but yeah but Ripley [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► starts to self-destruct which is cool [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► nice little bit of of uh of set design [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► and and prop design there with the whole [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► like it is intricate is so tactile right [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► now physical of course in an essential [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► part of the self-destruct system is to [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► turn on fog machines and strobe lights [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► the entire shipment she's she's not just [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► flipping switches and you know she's [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► actually moving things and pushing [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► things and yeah I just pulling things [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► out of the ground is wonderful as a lot [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► of disco lights to turn on but then but [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► then what was great is she finds out [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► uh-oh you know here's the they're dead [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► the alien is here i love that she goes [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► back to try and turn off the [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► self-destruct and you get the ticket so [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► you don't just get the countdown to [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► destroy [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► action you get the countdown to when [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► it's a replicable that it's going to be [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► destroyed and she fails she does she [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► doesn't get it so at that point she's [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► like I guess I gotta get my cat and get [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► out of here i just i love that we get to [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► countdowns there and we get the the like [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► okay plan a and then planet doesn't work [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► she's like all right I guess I'll go [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► turn it off [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► hope that didn't work either now I'll go [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► i love how it's going to definitely [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► pissed off she is at that moment too [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► soon ashes mother's monitor and then the [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► whole way back down the hall towards the [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► cat she's screaming and shouting [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► obscenities fantastic i love that she [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► takes care of the cat during all this [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► many lesser hero would have just left [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► the poor thing to die but no no she news [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► priorities cat lucky [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► oh I love the cat throughout i love the [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► cat III have this in my notes I went to [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► mention we brought up the county few [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► times i love the cat i love the first [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► time we see the cat where it's like [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► there's this bright orange cat on this [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► spaceship it's like whoa what is this [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► movie like like I I could accept aliens [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► bursting out of people's just but people [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► just kind of have a cat on the spaceship [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► it's great and strange and then they use [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► the cat for scares and then she saves [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► the cat I love everything about having [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► the cat and the cat is a metaphor for [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► ripley's humanity [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► the cat is Ripley's weakness and if she [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► would have let its size you have a much [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► better time in the next two movies and [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► Liz she does leave it in harm's way if [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► you watch the directors cut the [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► director's cut has the scene where the [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► alien finds the captain like bats [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► suicide because it's not arrested which [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► thank God they cut out because to me all [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► these are free and where were you just [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► see the alien creeping up on the cat and [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► then it cuts away before you see it [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► knock it away is I originally was sure [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► that the cat had been implanted with an [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► alien in some ride huh [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► and that that was going to be that the [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► false ending at the end is going to be [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► the cat you know looking creepy or maybe [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► having something burst out of its chest [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► for the sequel alien to an attack [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► exactly by the way where does the [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► cabbage leaf initially is there a little [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► kitty ago [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► well yes I hope so that that's that's [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► headcanon must be in somebody's pod [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► somebody gets hurt [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► I think there's a little kitty sleep [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► party party [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► kitty but what's good everybody gets one [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► ship cat that's that's to cut you know [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► why it's there and it's to kill its to [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► kill all the rats that are on that you [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► can hope to be a contributor on it or [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► ship dog [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► it doesn't have to be a cap any animal [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► i'm sure glad I don't know i think they [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► have a rodent dog hairs on the Nostromo [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► and they need a cat too just to kill [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► them to kill the rats on this room space [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► rats the ranch save the that's the other [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► fantastic reversal in the movie when [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► they first go hunting for the alien you [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► think that they're still looking for [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► something about the size of a rat [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► yes I'm going all you've seen is the [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► chest poster and they think that [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► obviously that is the most groan worthy [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► scene in the movie where there's like [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► the little puppet that they dragged [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► across the floor and strengthen the best [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► set to ruin the whole chest / seem to be [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► the very first time I saw it because [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► that was also explain [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► there's this ridiculous little thing [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► running across the screen before it [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► happened so then we could all laughed [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► and I was like okay that's great [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► so having seen in the theater in 1979 i [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► can tell you that that scene was [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► actually surprisingly effective her and [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► it was specifically because everybody [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► lost their stuff in alien popped out [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► right and then words it's across the [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► table in that ridiculous fashion its [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► comic relief everybody interesting and [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► it wasn't like that released english it [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► was like oh my god that was hilarious [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► and I assume the chest burster had to go [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► eat five tons of food to grow into a [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► giant monster yeah it really is probably [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► the result did people at becoming the [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► part of the first one it it just ate [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► john hurt from the inside that was just [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► an its boundary well the food stores ya [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► na Jeong kzg9r okay yeah acid is for it [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► so it can eat metal [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► so something I'll never forget it i was [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► eating ship wraps [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► that's why Jones began after it they [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► were actually hunting together initially [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► I want to put out a word for that for [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► that scene 2 because that's one of my [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► very favorite scenes at six weeks with [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► me from this movie is when the acid [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► burns through the decks and they and [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► they check how far down the acid goes [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► and and they like put the like little [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► little pride or pencil or whatever then [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► and end it end it and it smokes on the [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► tip because of this acid and it's like I [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► love that that's so creepy like [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► oh it's asking how bad is it well how [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► far down did it burn all the way down [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► it's a very bad i love that because they [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► don't even do anything with it in this [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► movie stressed no no just so you know [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► you can't cut into it was made of asking [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► what they do because that's that's why [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► they can't remove the facehugger off of [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► Cain [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► well yeah but that that's just one [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► moment they could have found another [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► reason for that but they don't expand on [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► that until the next movie when it starts [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► mattering a lot it does also serve that [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► scene however to emphasize the size of [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► the ship yes because you know like a [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► doctor who episode they are using the [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► same corridor again and again and again [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► with different lighting i feel i should [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► point out this moment that these [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► corridors that we see here were in fact [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► we use in Doctor Who story really [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► of course leeward what what no i want to [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► know this doctor who trivia now tool is [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► pleased at peter davison story terminus [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► uses alien set [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► Wow no well if it was a peter davison 1 [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► i've seen that I think the corridors [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► look exactly like the line to space [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► mountain [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► we've got that same way about the [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► warning first waste space mountain the [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► when you land in 1979 strangely enough [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► that's what the future looks like to me [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► is tomorrow land of 1979 [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► yeah yeah but always my favorite one is [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► to entertain my favorite thing about [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► that acid scene is when Dallas hands the [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► pen that he borrowed from branded him [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► and he's looking at this biz pen that [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► smoking and drinking and cooking you [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► breakfast my pen do good [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► it looks like it looks just irritated [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► you and he's already concerned about his [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► bonus because pens are very expensive [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► it's not like you can go to the pet shop [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► he's in deep space but he's probably got [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► one pin yeah how many pens they can't [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► run out to the to the staples to buy [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► more band you gotta get one of those [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► fancy space pens [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► Eric I think technically all pens or [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► space pens when they're in space like [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► how many become space money and all [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► everything else becomes space whatever [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► work [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► westerville space are they still append [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► that's true who makes you think actually [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► talking about space technology one of [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► the things that always always bugged me [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► about this was a a how easily they [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► design the motion trackers like that [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► really is just kind of hand wave him [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► just skipped right over that [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► but not only that but then somehow some [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► point like in between Dallas is death [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► and the rest of the movie the motion [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► trackers suddenly get massively upgrade [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► is from we're gonna buzz when something [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► moves to go now we've got a grid with [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► dr. that show position isn't it beeps [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► and there's no explanation for that all [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► wrapped up the tench and sure but like [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► this why not start with them like that [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► to start with you know it's right it's [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► not [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► oh I can't think of any good headcanon [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► to explain that that's annoying [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► I all I can it's a day the mother linked [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► all of the motion sensors on the ship [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► together and they were tied into that at [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► the end mother did it's like a wizard [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► with a comb-over [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► yeah my mother's not very helpful tho [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► bad another we don't yet know how [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► powerful that machine is because she's [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► got so many lights and even though the [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► monitor is about 13 inches across you [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► still have to sit about 10 feet away [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► from him according to use it it's just [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► that powerful and you have to get in a [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► chair that revolves rather than just [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► stepping into a chair that's facing her [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► to start with I'd never just about the [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► better to appreciate the 360 degree [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► light show [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► yeah but it looks great so the last [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► scene so she gets on the she goes back [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► to does the double back she and a CAD [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► get on the shuttle and this is where we [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► get that second ending right the false [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► ending the Nostromo has exploded [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► she's gonna owe it's all over whoo that [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► was a close one lose three times while [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► unless it's simple it's got different [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► parts that explode slightly different [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► times I guess explode surprisingly [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► loudly considering that it's in space [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► people who you explode they just gave [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► you can hear you scream but you can hear [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► every other sound I don't normally [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► object to that but if you make it their [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► tagline I feel and the last explosion [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► has like the 2001 slits counterfeit yes [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► of course very strange [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► we're done we're done she's safe it's [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► all okay Freddie's dead i should i want [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► to point out that the false ending here [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► is unfortunately probably the one thing [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► that I don't think works very well [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► because there's no doubt as she's [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► leisurely taking off her clothes and [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► getting prepared for her long space [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► journey that something else is yet see [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► it yeah seems a weird [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► meet in the middle and then she took off [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► her clothes and went in a pod the end [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► ok when I was 11 years old I totally [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► bought it I got shocked [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► yeah when I was when I first saw this I [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► remember thinking that they seen the [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► revelation of the alien was you know [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► hiding in plain sight was the most [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► awesome thing I had ever seen in my life [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► just absolutely incredible blew my mind [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► I loved it to bits [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► now I watching I think how would there [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► be a bit gap big enough for him to fit [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► in but at the time at the time I loved [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► well in such convenient proximity to all [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► those five machines that can be used to [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► collect yeah I love that scene but but [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► just use point my feeling is something [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► has to be it doesn't feel like the the [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► end of a movie right it doesn't feel [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► like what about what to fake me out you [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► need to make it feel like the credits [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► are going to roll at any moment and then [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► they don't and that didn't happen here [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► where it's like boy it seems like we're [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► waiting around a long time I guess [TS]