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the incomparable number 222 November
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hey new Star Wars trailer came out and
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this is the first in a series of
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podcasts we will we will talk about it
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for the next nine hours he's these next
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is 8080 some seconds i am jason and i am
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joined by the two biggest star wars fans
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I know Dan Morgan and John Sirica hello
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gentlemen
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haha i'm so excited for this
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Thanksgiving vacation and nothing to do
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with Thanksgiving had entirely to do
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with this trail
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haha if you cannot express this to my
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family adequately that doesn't this
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holiday was about they kept forgetting
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yeah its force giving understand i'm
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ready John
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so uh do you want to talk about first
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impressions should we walk through the
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very carefully selected you know 80
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seconds so obviously first impressions
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this is opening ceremony statement go
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ahead this is not what I expected from
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this trail I don't know if I what I had
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in my mind the trailer i had in my mind
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this was not it not not going to bed i'm
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just saying that this confounded my
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expectations and what I trying to think
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of what is it that I expected to be
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different the trailer my mind has a lot
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more black in it as in a scene i guess
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yeah guess space scenes and the second
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thing the trailer my mind had this does
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not have is old familiar faces this is
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all new faces and this is I think no
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space seems right as far as we can tell
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well yeah it doesn't seem to be anything
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that takes place in outer space is like
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it like the matically in some ways I
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felt like expecting something almost
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more like epic and grandeur on scale
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blow ya like starting with a whatever
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you call that where the guy pops up on
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the screen
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yeah it starts laying right that is
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different from you know I mean even just
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the episode 1 trailer very sort of
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somber stately important and it's also
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got that element of something that we've
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kind of in some ways never really seen
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in a Star Wars movie before which is
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that like kind of like a like a jump you
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know like making you jump right because
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like it is like everything's calm and
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peaceful but something going on and like
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and like I actually physically jumped a
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little bit because I was kind of likes
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it or not but you have to know I'm
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really allowed to
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oh yeah I had jacked up and also like
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just a sudden appearance and everything
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in the daytime to music and all that
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it's it's very much set up to like
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startled and it's clearly like very
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tense very close shots like I felt the
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that's something that we haven't really
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seen and that my trlr only shot two sure
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make sure that that might be trailer on
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well i don't know i mean well maybe
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their lingering on the sand so so that
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shot with a guy popping up and he's
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looking off camera and we don't see what
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he sees and then the camera starts to
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turn around him is very similar to the
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shot in the pilot of lost where Jack
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walks out onto the beach and you're
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seeing him see the plane crash and then
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very slowly it turns around and reveals
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what he's looking at it which is this
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spectacular destruction of a plane crash
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on the beach and that's what it reminded
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me and same director right that that's
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what it reminded me of is that is there
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and I kept waiting for it to pan around
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and show me what what he sees
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nope well looks like a sandy came here
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to when was the last time we had a shaky
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hand starchy's number is everything is
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free you know you think especially in
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the prequels and George Lucas is doing
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everything like everything is very staid
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and very like static like the camera
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doesn't move a lot and that is like it's
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some of the which is weird because
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that's an encounter point to a lot of
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stuff they did very early on in there in
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the original trilogy we're moving like
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the cameras rather than moving the
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models a lot of the time was like made a
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big difference in the way they shot the
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special effects but the but the
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character scenes were almost always very
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conventional yeah they didn't have
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motion control when they were shooting
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arrows and for that emotion
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troubleshooting Harrison Ford ship which
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made the writing Star Wars the original
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story children dynamic and it like right
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now the interiors of the millennium
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falcon you'd say shot shot people
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sitting people standing talking like
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even the scenes with like Luke you know
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shooting that you know fighting the
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little remote thing with a lightsaber
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everything fairly static shots whereas
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and then as soon as you got into the
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space scenes they go into the trench
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they're flying here that was so much
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more dynamic which made by space seems
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more exciting here in this thing
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everything is like that even when they
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just show that girl on the on that
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speeder thing or whatever it's slow zoom
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in on her face together a depression
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before she takes off like rather than
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just showing her on the things looking
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some buttons are going at the cameras is
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moving it's more like is a modern
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filmmaking but yeah I taking the tools
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that Lucas used only for model
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then using them for everything which is
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you know par for the course I think with
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most movies these days including change
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can absolutely i mean is can we expect
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from the you know the advancements that
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have been made in the last not just you
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know 15 years or so but last 30 years
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since we saw the original trilogy the
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things i noted in that first shot that I
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really so a that our character who i
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believe is John boyega is wearing what
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appears to be stormtrooper armor and
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what I really like when you sort of flip
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around to the back there is it is like
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in a call out to the old stormtrooper
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armor it's got the like 011 style thing
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yeah it's like the black disc in like
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there's the two vertical shots like that
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to me is like okay we're so we're
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screwed warsi like squarely in homage
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territory already
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yeah one that I liked that too because
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are always wanted to see us to a
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stormtrooper with is with his helmet off
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and in the in the prequels we end up
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with a well they're all clones they're
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all the same it's like well that's
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really disappointing so I like here it's
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like hey it's a dude in stormtrooper and
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I mean maybe he's posing as a storm
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trooper Maggie super-pulling Luke and
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Han yeah that's the thing it's a thing
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that's done i think it's also worth
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mentioning that the very first face you
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see is african-american instant
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follow-up we know John boyega is
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actually English not african-american
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with yes I mean there's a lot of been a
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lot of criticism of the casting of this
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movie is just a bunch of white dudes
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again but this is showing that star wars
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is not just for suburban white kids
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yeah I think that's got to be part of
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the statement of this direction first
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phases we see are both an
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african-american man and a woman so I
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think also that's that's important to
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also a soccer ball droid because all of
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the wall because because we need to
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further the case of around robots they
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don't they don't get enough screen time
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is you know this is just a big fu
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interstellar yeah i like the round like
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the soccer ball soccer ball droid but
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notice it more important than that then
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their attempt to to show diversity here
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is like I said these are all new faces
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yes is this that there's not there's not
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a Luke Skywalker is not a hot solo there
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is not a princess leia they are not in
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this trail I mean obviously they'll be
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showing up later
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probably but that's a statement that
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statement saying
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this is a movie and it's a new movie and
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people you know maybe in it but that's
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not what the movie is about this this is
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where did confront my expectations if I
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guess what was in it would be a reveal
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at the very end of like Luke's face yes
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that was expected i was totally
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expecting that to be the last shot is
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like boot throwing back the hood or
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something like that
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a bearded Luke Skywalker nope not at all
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nope but like then there's something
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okay in some senses that works then
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because like now I something else to
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look forward to like there's all this
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cool stuff but I didn't see anything
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with like from ok I didn't see any faces
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that were open but that's exactly what
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they put in it like if they were going
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to tease with the teaser you're right
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you save that big one of the end you
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save like a winking han solo or what you
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say that again and they did not and it's
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not because so much because they're
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going to save it for later like oh my
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god you're gonna see this it's a
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statement about what they think this
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movie is its yeah I grieve it so far as
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far as we can tell they are presenting
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this movie as a movie about the people
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that you see so far because if you can
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do a trailer you don't show you the main
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character so ancillary character scenery
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establishing shots a few ships then you
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have to say for the very end and by the
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way years before we were waiting for
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Indiana Jones or whatever you know
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whoever your main character is and this
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is I think these characters are all main
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characters they're not a hurry
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characters i think that's what it what
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I've from the IMA i will say I've tried
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to avoid spoilers like you know and i
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know john is also working on putting
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spoilers
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yeah but I like I think you're right and
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i think from the little bits that I've
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heard i think it is true that like we're
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going to be focusing on new characters
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that the old cast is going to be more of
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a supporting role which you know i think
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makes sense at this point like it's a
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different it's a different world i mean
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that wewe it's unclear as of yet how far
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in the future this is from the last from
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Return of the Jedi you know if we're
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going strictly on a one-to-one ratio you
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know it's been 30 years right so things
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are going to have changed and those
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characters are all gonna be a lot older
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and it may be a little bit harder for
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them to carry a movie but i think it's
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supporting characters you know there's a
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lot of there's a lot of possibility and
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that for them that we instill sandy
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yeah i was going to say that a queen is
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one of the old characters that we get to
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see in this trailer and and
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I extrapolating plot elements from
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trailers is always dangerous although
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sometimes you discover that that the
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entire plot is revealed that I don't
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think that's the case here but clearly
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part of the story is about something
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happening on tattooing so far as i can
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tell because we've got the disturbed
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stormtrooper guy in the desert
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overwater you know I give it a thumbs up
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that all right getting my seen others
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all right ok so disturbed
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this is john boyega write that yeah
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generally get disturbed by with hula
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stormtrooper without his hat
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he's in the desert was never had it's
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too hot for that outfit in the Dewey
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well least it's white
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so it's reflective but yeah not yet it's
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made out of made out of plastic or
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whatever so you know i hope i hope he
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has a water supply or he's gonna be in
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trouble
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nothing more is it all one thing
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it's like magnetically coupled in the
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technology that thing which is which is
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engines
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yeah they do look I podracer engines I
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so we did like a brief tip of the hat to
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the 2x cool and yeah well they just that
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sound effect was like when the the girl
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before let me get this theory we have
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are our favorite sound effect the
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imperial probe droid mix then I believe
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the now like that
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yeah this is right after the Stinger
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when he stands up
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yeah in the background you get I'm gonna
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what sounds like imperial probe droid
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imperial code whatever
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oh oh yeah well it was that better wind
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it sounds a little windy to meet you
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know but I know an imperial probe droid
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but I know what I'm good
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it's like I was like a whistling wind
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yeah I mean there's a lot of lot of
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dropping who knows if this is obviously
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the mix of the movie at that point it's
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probably different but yeah totally
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they're ok so anything more about the
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soccer ball droid other than its cool
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he's got the whole friggin close shot is
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make side we may get killed
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yeah yeah we don't mean indented to
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not only see any of the human cast we
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may be okay for the for the little
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bouncy soccer ball droid take a look at
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his antenna good antenna wobble
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uh-huh yeah yeah yeahs aggressive that's
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the physics physics happens
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tui he's got the the red circle around
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the the top and his little camera and
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stuff look it very much is a star wars
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some star wars music or not it might
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clearly just you know true teaser
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they went backwards they the look I mean
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obviously moving backwards star
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that to the you know New Hope which is
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very industrial tube-based and now
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moving forward not going back to art
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deco but trying to be more sleep like
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this is like the electric car version of
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the s2000 is that you know the 2,000
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version of the stormtrooper helmet
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everything obviously it's weird because
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like they have to fit into a timeline in
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the star wars universe as and there was
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this time ever and so on so forth
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obviously fit into our university what
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they actually what they actually fit
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into is the the fashion trends of the
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times of the movies were made which is
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not the same as the time periods media
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I think and I think they're not too
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divergent they are much more like return
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of the jedi stormtrooper and yes then
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got the snowtrooper Hamlet was looking
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at us and then you have the forest
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whatever that biker Scouts right which
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also looked more modern compared to
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those things but yeah right and so that
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this is flickering shaky-cam they're
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presented as soldiers they have weapons
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with menacing looking red leds on them
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frame on one of those with like little
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scopes that are very reminiscent of both
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the original stormtroopers and Han
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Solo's pistol
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yep got a little scope there know what
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they use the scope so I don't know
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because I never hid anything but you
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know huh well they're too busy staring
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down the scopes and trying to think
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that's the problem and a big opening of
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like a troop transport ship shown from
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leg level a shot that would not be in a
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help any of the Lucas Star Wars
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and as much more of a modern movie
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conceit yam from the legs down you know
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there's something there's something
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going on out there there's like wind or
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rain media and around yet another lash
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they just entering into a space station
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you know who knows looks at it looks
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there's no steering outdoors like
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they're landing on a planet somewhere
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but i hope they don't crash in the
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desert is all nice and icy rain blowing
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sideways yeah it does look like rain I
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re yeah it could be four or smoke or
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something so it's funny John i had the
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same thought about the industrial design
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of the stormtroopers in that it reminded
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me and I felt this way about when Star
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Trek did enterprise and some other
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examples of this is when you go back in
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time and you're trapped in your own
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continuity that the prequels was like
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you know they got everything they do
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have to solve for the original trilogy
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everything they do has to lead to that
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point in it and it's so constricting to
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do that and i look at this I'm like hey
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they get to innovate and like they use
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the original trilogy as a starting point
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to go forward and that feels so much
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more freeing then having to work toward
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something you always that like I always
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sit around thinking about like that
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control seen the the control room in the
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first death star in a new hope right
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where all the flashing lights and like
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very much like a 1960s 1970s era
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computer like a tiny little CRT screen
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lights and you're like how are they ever
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going to explain how you went from like
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episode 1 levels of Technology with like
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all that stuff too like yeah you know
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what really makes a lot of sense
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random blinking lights like that to me
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he really are tracking the same problem
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yes that's what they could they envision
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the future as rather than screens
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everywhere just more buttons with lights
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and so the whole thing is buttons with
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lights and it worked you're moving
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forward right it's right what if you
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haven't but not if you work backwards
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then you're like right on the 7-3 did
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when they did the reboot right you have
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to make ya bridge of that enterprise has
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to sort of split the difference
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like look we need to have a lot of
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buttons with lights on the right but
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then they kind of went this interesting
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because what they did there was they
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went with kind of a a sixties retro vibe
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with lots of polished chrome and at the
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handles and everything right that which
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was a nod to the
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to the period that the original one was
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made and making a statement that this is
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actually the fashion trend of the time
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that the enterprise's for as being
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bitten and semicircles alive this is
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what's in fashion just devices devices
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listen fashions but start checking for
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God's is they start to get the added
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problem of also being built out of our
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own universe right so we know where
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things are right now in our lives and
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yet star trek is supposed to be the
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future and yet like when the IRA my
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always think of some episodes of ds9
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with a time-travel back to like you know
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the 2,000 something everyone is using
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CRT monitors and it's like what we
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already know it's patently false from
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where we are in this so youryour bounded
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on every side in Star Trek which makes
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it a lot harder at least with the the JJ
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Abrams reboot by doing it in the
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alternate reality and saying oh well 20
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years ago the course of history changed
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that's that's like part of the we I
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think we came out we can revisit this
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now and show you that you know the the
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captain kirk's enterprise now looks more
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modern because it's totally different
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it's it's not like it was before they
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invented screams it looks like a madman
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modern looks like that time our past
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envisioned with with sort of modern
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acuity i like it turns its
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high-definition everything is in color
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instead of black and white but still
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things look kind of weird and 60s
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fashion and fashion that is out of step
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with today
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so what I'll and the star wars ones have
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here is that not only do we have to go
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forward and not be bound by anything
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because we're just projecting forward
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but a calamitous change of fortunes
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happened yeah and the last movie so
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everything is up for grabs your not even
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bound to any kind of plot wise
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continuity because complete upheaval the
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Empire was sort of running the show and
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now the Empire is this crushed and the
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jennifer is on and now they're kind of
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back but there's one of them and so you
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have complete freedom to go in any
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direction because it's a power vacuum
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yeah well that's the sort of central
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question that comes to me you know out
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of watching this trailer is we thought
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we saw what happened after return the
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Jedi right like we thought okay there's
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a party there were fireworks if they
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wanted everything was great yeah you
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know especially if you want to
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acknowledge the special edition you know
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where everybody's celebrating a whole
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different planet and everyone on corazon
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is this carrier whatever actually
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hearing of the you are happy
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all that matters yeah but but you know
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at the same time now we have a question
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of well there was a huge infrastructure
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in place there were presumably other
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people who were in charge of various
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elements of the Empire there were there
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are remnants there are fragments that
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are left over are they just going to be
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like alright i guess we lost so you can
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go Battlestar here and say this is going
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to be in iraq war analogy where there
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there were factions that we kept being
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kept in check by the by the Empire by
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the dictator right so you have like the
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huts and all the organized crime and
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smugglers and all that stuff who are
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essentially being tamp down by gigantic
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star destroyers and Darth Vader with the
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force in the Emperor and all that other
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stuff and now that they're gone sort of
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sectarian violence 'as him free to break
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out because the you know the rebellion
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is not equipped at this point to govern
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in with the same authority that the an
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entire day and there we know there are
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plenty of factions within the star wars
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universe that are are power hungry and
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we'll see this is their opportunity
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right so is there is there
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re-establishment of the Empire do the
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Empire never really go away and we
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didn't like that victory was not as
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absolute well as we first thought when
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you see the stormtroopers and that my
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very first thought was why are there
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stormtroopers right whatever their store
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marker there was so many stormtroopers
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though they didn't all blow up in the
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Death Star's guys like they've got the
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air around right they got everything out
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guys like they're they're gonna go to
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work in the morning and and you know
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that probably nobody farming oh wait a
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second i guess i don't have one and then
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maybe maybe as a you know we're totally
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spitballing here but maybe when you're
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taking over when you overthrow the
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Emperor if you you give you the
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infrastructure yeah right maybe you say
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okay well we're now going back to being
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the old republic and hey you
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stormtroopers you were always part of
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the you know the even back to the
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Republic you were part of the army
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yeah we're we're we're reinstating the
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Senate and you guys are going to be in
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the army and fight on stormtroopers but
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don't shoot us because you miss right
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well and so then it becomes you open up
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the parable for well you know if you
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just step into the shoes of the dictator
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are you any better than they are and do
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you sort of like this power continue to
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corrupt essentially it's like wow okay
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now we're in charge we're going to force
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it enforce our new order on everything
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wait a second tested the this is
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supposedly a
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message of the the prequels that you
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know the Jedi had become arrogant and
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disengaged and whatever so that's
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problem solved so just heard expertly
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that point right so it's not going to be
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any certain big ball of Jedi who are so
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aloof and disengaged and feel like they
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don't think that i was there i was just
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looking he presumably as more wise than
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that and the Senate was dissolved but
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even when the senate was in session in
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the prequels didn't look like the
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world's best governing body it was you
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know very easily influenced that they
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had guns in there was just that it's not
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great so if you were to propose the new
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system of government who you know you
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had like it almost look like it when you
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had almost like a mix between royalty
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and sort of pseudo democracy is if we
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don't even have a good model for what we
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want to go back to because all the
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things that we that happened in the past
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they weren't they weren't very good work
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right the UH the next shot in the
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trailer is our our friend hopping on her
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block speeder thing looking over her
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shoulder and and then take them off
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darth maul's lightsaber handle is right
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to her left either but through properly
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use or yeah yeah we believe i did not
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catch that it could be properly use
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because they do a lot of that one
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ecstatically on into like up pole
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yeah it's a lifesaver thanks maybe it's
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towered in powered by lightsaber you
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turn it on the inside of the pole and it
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like heats it up and that's weird
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because it's not in the next shot the
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wide shot you look at the next wide shot
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where you actually see her flying off
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its not there she could be an entirely
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different ship at that point
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yeah this is your heart looks similar
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her things are down her little goggles
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are down at that point and yahoo nose
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right and I think everybody's shit but
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it could be continuity error or could be
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two entirely different scenes one of the
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sticks called the show that to the same
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people have the gassy sticks
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yeah there you go yeah that's not that
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is not one but it is covered with
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tattooing style messy tape and onion you
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know enough if i'm not mistaken i think
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this is the actress Daisy Ridley who was
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basically an unknown before coming into
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my guess is that that uh that block
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speeder that she's on its attempt shot
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and then
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haven't added all the all the stuff to
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it yet again while I although it looks
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pretty deep it's got a nice again like
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we're going back to that like it's nice
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it's lived in its beat down as we talked
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its industrial ya know it looks like
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she's driving a furnace basically she's
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also looking behind her
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yanmega escape both both of these actors
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who was working far have serious
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expressions on their face they are
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concerned they are serious they're you
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know they're in crisis they are not
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smiling into the camera and I don't look
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at me I'm a movie if I had to if I had
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to you know sum up all this in one were
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to be tension like especially the
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combination of music and everything
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there is a clear like tension being like
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ratcheted up here as we go along
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something is coming as we haven't talked
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about the voice-over yet but something
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has a way
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copy the force she's going off toward a
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some sort of in camp meant settlement
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something I mean I is that if it this is
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Tatooine that's practically a city that
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she's got the funding prequel noises
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podracer kind of style because with with
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the prequels been burning a lot more of
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kind of deep thrumming rhythmic deep
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thrumming for engine noises and then the
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Padres and everything you get a little
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bit of that for her refrigerator driving
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she's driving is the refrigerating side
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up a lot of dust there inside the
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refrigerator Indiana Jones spoilers and
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hanging out and we have the guy who I
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sort of God looks like
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zev from Empire Strikes Back yeah he's
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in his face is beat up inside his helmet
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his helmet is beat up outside his face
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so it kind of looks like it so it's like
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that it's a new again we've got the new
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styling of like it's clearly a rebel
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alliance and Caroline symbols all over
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yeah just in case you missed it we can
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stamp on his helmet when a little best
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again got the equipment but that's that
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that helmet is not it is again evocative
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the stuff that we saw in the original
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trilogy but it's not the same as even
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orange of the flight suit is like
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different muted it's a little bit more
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done it looks like it's been you know
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again it has been washed in a while but
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he's got the little buttons on his chest
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you're like the the same little like
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like sport thing looks like the stick
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for the x-wing there is pretty similar
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to the originals like the inside the
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cockpit looks very very easy even got
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the targeting computer often love ya now
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like everything is there looks like okay
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this is an x-wing we dusted off the
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mothballs
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yeah he is also very serious-looking he
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is is not is not on a pleasure flight is
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there and get people engaged in some
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kind of military exercise not i cannot
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tell if that is I cannot tell if that's
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Oscar Isaac but that would be my that
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was he looks kinda like oscar isaac was
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hard sell the helmet on
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and I definitely like how scratched his
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helmet is that's the lived in Star Wars
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world that we amber but these are my new
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whatever they call that don't know what
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the name that they said they were acting
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up trying and trying to avoid spoilers
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and by the way if star wars fans
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listening to this and saying why don't
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these people know all the answers these
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questions this has been established but
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it's because we're avoiding spoilers
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yeah sure we these things all could have
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been answered by Jay Bruce himself we
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just don't know because we're going to
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spoil well I mean they looked i mean
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they look pretty I'd there's a little
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bit but not for ones that we saw i don't
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know if you saw that was like that with
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the Arctic Circle engine that split in
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half and with the tooth is the scissor
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wings where the front edge of the wing
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goes down and the back edge of the wing
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goes up
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right right although it's interesting is
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that one in the clothes shot looks like
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almost like it's more that you have a
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the wings curve a little more almost at
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the end I don't know turnouts hard on
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yourself a slight slight refinements
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their blue which is different from the
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ones we saw in the original trilogy
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which mostly had like sort of red trim
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yeah but they look very very soon they
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look more similar than different to the
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and it's an x-wing try again we will be
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looks like it's over i'm not to think
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about the wisdom of taking a circular
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tunnel that and presumably held
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something turbine like it's splitting it
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in half hijacked again will invoke
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interstellar to say that the fan blades
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warp out of existence then back at up
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anyway this rocket engines on the back
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moving along
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yeah he's skimming over water so nice
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like water like you know wakes being
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thrown up behind them some lovely
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mountain scenery a a world that looks
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infinitely more realistic them like half
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the world's we've seen it starts oh yeah
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that the tree background there i suspect
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is based on the hills not basically
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right where I live because the people
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who do these effects live around here
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and that look that mountain looks
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awfully familiar to me but that's sad i
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like it i could look out my window and
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see you next wing I again some some
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great sound effects you know like i say
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like zip along the water they're like
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just good i love the the sound of star
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wars in which we can really do an
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individual spoke Don is just so it's so
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iconic and so evocative like everything
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has a very particular sound and when
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those things line up well and there's a
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lot of stuff in this trailer was like
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yes that thing is it's the same thing
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but we can tell because it sounds the
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and maybe a little what they call them
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the little things that poked out from
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the wings on the x-wing I don't know
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what that you're putting all those
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things are thinner and part of the
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reason they're thinner is because only
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something you can make them on a plastic
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model in 1977 yeah before they become
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too delicate and the model to keep
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accidentally breaking or bending as I
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can order to make them a little bit like
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practicalities of model building
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dictated a lot of what the original
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starships look like we don't have those
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limitations anymore
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ncg basis you know again avoiding
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spoilers but I have seen enough to know
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the JJ but full-size one of these in
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full size is not that then because you
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know full sides still plenty of the
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strong and small-sized know models
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needed this around a computer so you
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have that problem solved and what it
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means is they look they look different
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that obviously looks like an x-wing but
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it's different enough that you can say
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this is a new version and it's a new
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version that does not look like a does
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not look like a reverse the prequels
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looks like even more industrial and
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cobbled together and weird and dirty and
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yeah looks good i get from the thumbs-up
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read all right next what's next
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Chris Pine walking through the woods
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also haha sure it's a special cameo from
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Christmas so we got some snow it's a
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it's a snow stark we're in the dark part
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now right this is the dark dark snowy
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forest and a mysterious hooded figure
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yeah i mean like that snowy woods looks
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very generic to me how many different
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movies everything this generic dark
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snowy woods and a lot and doesn't look
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particularly Star Wars you to me it
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doesn't use our words either i agree
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it's close to like what again we're
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focused on the close shot a lot of the
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star wars shots I feel like we've got
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like you know the three-quarter shop
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we've got the dynamic camera again right
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we're following this guy and so
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everything feels a little more
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claustrophobic and a little tighter and
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we don't see the sky at all the cameras
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pitch kind of down to which I feel like
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is a slight again slightly unusual for
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Star Wars movie where everything is very
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much on a similar like sort of flat
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plane also some real-time real-time
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follow-up from listeners listener erik
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christensen wrote on Twitter to say the
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t-shaped lightsaber was predicted by the
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uncomfortable in the Phantom Menace up
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sewed and they were right to Joe it
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looks silly
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well so here's it talking about the
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lightsaber right so what once they got
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pulled out the lightsaber you see his
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big thick leather belt it looks a little
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bit more star wars ii any sort of
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hunters over but the key point about
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this lightsaber is not so much the silly
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things which seem like a very bad idea
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that very bad idea in terms of not
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cutting off your thighs and other parts
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of your body but the blade itself has
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gone with a more ragged edge of flame
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yeah I don't again another limitation of
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the original effects of you but they're
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spinning stick with beads on it or the
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simplified computer one with CG now we
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could do sort of pseudo lightning around
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yeah it's crying lightning edges it
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looks it looks more sinister instead of
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merely being a red version of what's its
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equivalent of one of those like wavy
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like like knives you know when they see
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like the ceremonial daggers that have
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like a weighty blade yeah it's got like
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kind of that going on that's serrated
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basically not it in favor of surprise
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lightsaber configuration reveals huh
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like it isn't as exciting Darth Maul
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style to have the thing come out the
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sailed and you don't need to do any tone
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more ragged morph lineage it also looks
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a lot longer to me like if you just sort
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of look at look at your landlords like
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one can play more
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it's basically a anymore which is again
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why I think the crossguard in there is
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because it makes it look very much like
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a tour like a Braveheart style gigantic
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sword i agree i don't see it like on the
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one hand i understand that we hate
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crossguard would be super handy a
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lightsaber prevent some cutting your
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hand off at the same time since the
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crossguard doesn't extend like riding at
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all still says that part where you would
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actually catch another lightsaber blade
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you would just get the crossguard cut
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through which is going to happen exactly
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as darth maul's to have to have my favor
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was inevitably cut-in-half inevitably
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some of those numbers are going away in
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this movie I i had two thoughts when I
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saw this one is that this they may be
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dismissed because they they activate
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later it's that this is like that for
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dramatic back he needs to cut he needs
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to cut down a tree so that's like tree
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chopping mode where it protects you from
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the bits the wood flying off they just
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get vaporized and the other thought was
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that it's the exhaust port that this is
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a badly constructed lightsaber and I
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just laid out the sides i do like the
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idea that it's badly constructed because
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that those fit was sort of the ragged
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edges of it is like this is someone
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who's like you didn't know what they
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were doing and cobble together a
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lightsaber and we're just like is not an
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elegant weapon now
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not for a more civilized age is and the
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weird thing about as it is for for
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something that's supposed to evoke a
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claymore it has a very thin handle
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because the other direction that
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could've gone it's like final fantasy
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where he's he's wielding a butter knife
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the size of his body
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yeah it could have been like a longer
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flatter blade or something but yeah it
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does look it looks looks odd I'm
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reserving judgment something I mean we
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only seen from the back that the
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voice-over which we haven't talked too
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much about has bad Darth Maul vibe to it
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because that we need to have a gravelly
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voice evil guy talking when voiceover
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this looks like an evil guys wearing
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hoodies but as I said Chris Pine he
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looks like he walks like Chris Pine like
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it's just my guess is Adam driver but
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yeah because she looks kind of tall
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lanky yep probably though and yeah and i
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think this is the point where we get the
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second part of the voice over to where
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he's just a delight because we've been
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in the dark like a dark forces rising
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right the the the for his dark side now
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I was really expecting I don't you guys
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be says like the you know the dark side
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and then I was expecting the other party
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like the end of it to be has returned
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and yet when we get the dark side and
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the light on the line I'll see and it
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never left so the whole idea i don't
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worry about the plot of this movie but
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the force awakens is you know whenever I
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tell any non star wars fan about the
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do-it movie who knows anything that was
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like well wasn't then forced already
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wake like wasn't awake and I'm gonna I
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mean I returned it was called return of
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the jedi he there we go Jedi are back
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now right yeah
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music was like kind of a Highlander
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thing we're at the end of Return of the
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Jedi now that he is you know Darth Vader
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sacrifice himself and brought balance to
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the force if you want to go with the
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prequel interpretation like you think
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like nobody has any I know you don't do
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you think that all the force powers
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Norway well silver for the force awakens
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in like here's here's a possible
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headcanon interpretation like so you
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have you have the the
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noxious aloof Jedi or whatever and they
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were a mess and they went away and there
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was none and then Luke came back there
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was a dark side was dominating the
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galaxy and Luke fought back against that
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he's only one now kind of like the force
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is out there as a it is unconstrained is
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free to flow through various people
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without the constraints of sort of
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government or like Boy Scouts of America
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controlling like he's like there's no
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there's the organizational structure so
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if you just happened to be a guy on a
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planet who happens to be four strong
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because of you know who your parents
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were and you cobbled together this
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crazy-ass lightsaber like the force
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awakens as in where does the forest go
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presumably it is present in certain
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people and if there's no organizing
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principle to organize them whether it's
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the master-slave set thing or the the
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light side council thing then there
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could be a whole bunch of people in the
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universe with the force I and what
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happens to them like they just become so
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order taking leaders like like season 7
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Buffy now we're like all the potential
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Slayers are all out there on their own
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so here's here's my theory about this
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which is which again I have no spoiler
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information either it's purely a theory
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is that the force has a kind of a net
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asset of natural concentrations and so
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with the destroy the death of darth
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vader and all the Jedi being on the
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Empire Emperor being gone that that what
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happens is the force is sort of like in
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its dormant it's like it doesn't have
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its big concentrations it's just sort of
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spread thin and then what's happening
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here is now it's starting to spring back
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it's starting to become you know
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manifest more in people and and it's
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like it's a very mythic it's a very like
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like magic in Game of Thrones or
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something right where it's like well
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there was a lot of it and then it kind
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of faded and now it's coming back which
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is a great way to kick off a new series
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right is to say well that force hasn't
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been around that much but now it's back
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and about my feeling when the light side
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was around if you were for sensitive the
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Jedi would find you right because they
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were you know they would find all the
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kids who are for sensitive like no
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qui-gon does the beginning was like I
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found these force-sensitive kids better
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deals like you you need to go into the
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system you need to go and get the stupid
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helmet on your teachers your stuff and
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like you know you have to get into the
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sister and the other alternative is you
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slipped through the cracks and some
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random Seth fines
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you know there's not a lot of them is
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not a lot of population so basically if
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you were for sensitive the Jedi Order
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and everything was collecting you up and
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now there is no one collecting anyone up
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and the military service during during
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the you know the Empire times if you
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force that darth vader comes and kills
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you presume but things are going to
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competition what if all the force was
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essentially hoarded by the emperor
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emperor and Darth Vader has been on the
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force works
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Wow also here's my friends is and binds
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us but I mean again not to go too much
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into the the you know like the deep with
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the prequels products but yeah my
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fundamental problem with that prophecy
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was the soon as the end of the return of
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the jedi happens the force is no longer
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imbalance can only have light side
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yeah I don't understand why this is like
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it's not like you know a news program we
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need to have one had the pro in the
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coming doing children pro and con need
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to have a balanced like yr ini school's
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failing that's what I want to know what
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you need
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why do we need to have it in balance why
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do we need some amount of child killing
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and mixed in because then it won't be in
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balance is how I i see how the thing is
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that i don't think you need balance I
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think that there's an interesting taking
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their being balanced because court like
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you know order and chaos sort of are
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always at war with one another and so
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I'm wondering if maybe Luke decided like
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instead of you know if we take a very
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different view from liked the post
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cannon that was done in all the books
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everything was like alright we're going
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to train a brand-new Jedi Order and
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everything's gonna be great again
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instead be like looks like all right
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great we you know solved all the
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problems you know what the force really
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kind of leads to a whole bunch of
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problems so i'm just gonna go and go
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like the obi-wan Kenobi route go back to
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Tatooine holed up in a house somewhere
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and just chill out for a while and let
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everything take it you know natural
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course of events and that would be a bed
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but what he's thinking is like I'm the
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only one who I'm the only Jedi left
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right if I don't train anyone else there
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won't be another Jedi but the flaw in
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that plan is like he wasn't a Jedi when
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he was born
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you know when i was working as a farmer
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and help her write like so something
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i'll be people there going to be people
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born who are for sensitive and if no one
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is there to guide them you're gonna have
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trouble right i think i want and again
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like that's nice because there's an
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echoing call back then of like obi-wan
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Kenobi being too you know like having
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the hubris issue of like thinking he can
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train people himself and and loops
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compensating the other direction me like
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I i know i can't train people i'm not
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that good so I'm just gonna not do
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anything which turns out to be a really
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bad decision as well or he could have
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thought that he
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solve the problem is just it right it
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doesn't make any sense he was literally
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one of those people who was just born
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somewhere didn't know anything about
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Jedi or the forest but was for sensitive
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and you know could have fallen in with
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the wrong crowd and just thought you
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said you didn't know what was that
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people like me out there why am i anyway
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we'll see what he actually does but he
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was also the Sun Darth Vader so maybe
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there was like you know you almost get
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like sort of a bloodline think Leon
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they're all the other judges again they
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weren't supposed to have attachments or
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children so you never know
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yeah but you know about those Jedi it's
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got someone on the side and since I
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didn't enjoy the women of the Jedi
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Council hiding their pregnancies through
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yeah and then which I have to say was
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the moment that got me like you know
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JJ Abrams like plucked from our
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conscious collective imagination of just
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like we always knew the Millennium
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trilogy you get to see it in the
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asteroid field all that but like that
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special editions my favorite scene
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remains that scene where you see the
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morning Paul can take off from ma sighs
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Lee in the first movie because the other
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brand-new and acted in that way that you
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knew that ship could act we just didn't
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have the technology to display it at the
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time and so you know having the ability
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to do dynamic cameras and to do some CGI
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they're doing here
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it makes it like it makes it feel real
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our imaginations when you're a kid you
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got your little million Falkenstein
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you're flying around like you're like oh
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yeah i can do all these things can fly
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upside down and like skim down near the
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surface of things and I don't know it's
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just like for me it captured perfectly
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this idea of like what i wanted to c 4
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original trilogy the shots of people and
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then motion-control camera made the
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ship and space battle shots so much more
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exciting so here if they're going to use
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sort of modern camera movement
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techniques to show the people want that
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then make the the spaceship shots less
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exciting and the answer is no because we
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can do way more than we could with
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motion control cameras before so they
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they're still keeping the same balance
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of like the people shots are
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conventional in a modern sense but the
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spaceship shots we could do anything and
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so you know they're showing you know
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this is this this one-shot they show
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hear something that would have given ilm
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of the seventies like it would have just
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like made them all just grown and have
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nightmares for like months at a time
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received you like we can do anything we
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want lens flare sky stand fully brightly
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lit the cameras flipping around while
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the ship is flipping around something
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you know realistic-looking sand kicking
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up under it we can do everything and so
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they're still keeping that balance
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because if they kept the shots looking
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like shots from empire and that it would
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be it would be a letdown and this this
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is not that well this is a also i like
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that this is the millennium fawlcon
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doing that move you know that move where
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they go up and look around and come back
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yeah and women beautiful new radar dish
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because they want yeah I noticed that
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too in a water-filled why I pop the
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exact same thing it's like skits
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rectangular instead of circular like
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much lower profile so the next time you
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need to go into a Death Star won't get
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knocked up
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yeah we'll see about that and still
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focus on is still the highest thing it's
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gonna highest thing on the show you
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gotta have radar just come on man don't
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drive anymore
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well we're close friends are you got not
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only do we have the falken which looks
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you know basically just beat up it's not
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like console came into a lot of money is
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like I'm gonna fix this thing up real
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nice now looks pretty much don't know
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about tomorrow we're having anybody
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driving come on Han Solo was driving and
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look at the way that thing flies it
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could be happening in the back pocket
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taken Sarah didn't hurt to me that
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there's like you know Han Solo's teenage
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kid is taking this look like it's that
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scene from the first Star Trek reboot
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where you know Curtis is his dad's car
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yeah it's someone so let's kill the fall
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can take it for a joyride
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so when it loops around loops first you
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see it is flying through the air like
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atmosphere not space loop sloop sloop
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sloop in the big surprises guess where
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it is it's on Tatooine because then you
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get the stand coming to the shot in the
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sand coming up and it's like what are
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you doing
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flying that thing around
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that's the first surprise in the second
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surprise which is less for the surprise
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in the age of Star Wars rebels is that
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their typewriters hyper scattering and
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this is not new your custom to seeing
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TIE fighters fly around on top of sand
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right but that has new a new idea in the
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Star Wars world that these what we
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consider space spider right and which
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were mostly in space due to technical
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reasons because a lot easier to shoot
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ships against that you know black
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background background light that is to
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try to put them in full daylight on a
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planet with Sun and everything
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now this is something we are you know we
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haven't seen before and why wouldn't
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they be dog fighting over the Sanders if
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they're you know if if the Empire is in
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for whoever is flying these fighters and
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shoot whoever is playing the money and
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falcon in the original trilogy you just
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had to happen
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suffice it to say they take off from the
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desert plant and they go into space at
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whatever point there will be some kind
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of chase and it's like now we can have
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this take place here now
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well I not only that but I think about
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the again adding tension things like now
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you have to think about gravity because
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there's a planet below and barely okay
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you don't need to think about how much i
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have no i don't think i can take offense
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but like it is like a when that seemed
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comes around and he's that close like
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the ship is that close to putting into
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something that's a moment but don't
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crash you know like there's nothing a
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hit and space i got the asteroids after
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anything like what's it it changes the
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rules for for how things go here yeah
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you can we try to think about the
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aerodynamics of any ships it's not
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obviously compliant I think someone did
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a thing about the TIE fighters and how
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like they would just share part yeah
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that X agonal come earlier the solar
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panels are getting all the Sun the
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although they look kind of white in this
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shot to which I thought was interesting
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yeah sure they are like you know where I
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time there I TIE fighters
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they're all black and white now they
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look well they look like they got a
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see-through panels
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yeah you're right now little transition
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side panels
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I what I like about this is the same
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thing i said earlier about the
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stormtroopers which is again I thought
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you'd nub
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why are there tie fighters yeah we have
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again it's good because it is sending
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the message like look this is still what
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you know this is not gonna have a story
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about the politics involving putting
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back together HTML shooting each other
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and guys fighting with t-shaped
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lightsabers get on board that's right
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have long discussions about what the
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optimal form of government for that
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should we have a bicameral legislature
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that is that is coming in the next
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trailer my just how do we have two
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senators like 10 people on that planet
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well it did you do to the the the way
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that the Republic was set up the smaller
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planets wanted as much representation of
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a larger planet so everybody has two
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senators a number of Representatives
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proportionate to the population does
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sure so that all be in the spin-off
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series Star Wars Constitution it'll be a
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1776 star wars over slavery will be a
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big issue is that means going to be well
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you gotta let us keep the slaves because
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otherwise interact Union oh my that's it
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that's the whole thing
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there's a there's a title which doesnt I
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think it's for interesting that this is
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being sold as star wars the force
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awakens episode 7 does not appear at any
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point that you know soda has been
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poisoned as a as a format for Star Wars
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middle names
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opening cross obviously but yeah it's
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not marketed this episode 7 it's
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marketed as the force awakens period
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yep whatever just searching for a
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download of this there's no piercings
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thing called star wars the force awakens
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from like 2006 i believe oh of course
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you guys are like every permutation has
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been used come on I know but it's just
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interesting that you know that out there
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are some a bunch of fans who spent you
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know months possibly years of their
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lives making a fan-made thing called the
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force awakens and now they're just going
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to be bombarded with a real thing called
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yeah i think they're probably just
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really excited though if you spent that
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much time making a Star Wars fan film
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like 10 years ago
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you're probably super sight that they
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same making spirit and their google
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juices is about to expire as we speak so
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search results for that shit query that
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time is now it's going the last thing I
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want is right after the December 2015
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things that we do get a little
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lightsaber noise in the background
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yeah that's the sound of a lightsaber
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turning off that right it's turning
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turning turning turning around town
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yeah yep turning out sorry played it
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yeah and so like that again in typical
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modern trailer parlance if they were
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going to do another little you know
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there would be no true becomes onscreen
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spins around you know nothing nothing
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you know any of that
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nope they're I mean they're very I think
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JJ Abrams is very widely wisely hoarding
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all of those things to dole them out
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later on and and know that you will get
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either that the real trailer you know
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which will come out in six months but
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that's what i was going to go to next
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which is what what what comes next and
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it's clear that they've decided to do I
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mean look these guys know what they're
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doing this is the modern this is that
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how you roll out a movie right this is
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already know roughly when they're doing
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all of those things and they're not
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gonna parcel this out to us if they're
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learn from the mistakes of episode 1 and
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having multiple different version like
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multiple trailers right starts to reveal
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everybody already like as soon as you
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put this out there everybody knows it's
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there right like you don't need to
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advertise this movie that much you can
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be kind of deliver it and and much more
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conservative about it then you might
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have to do for a property that is not
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otherwise established and so I I think
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there's a lot there could be really
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clever to do some you know not do too
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much for this but keep a lot of mystery
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about it and sort of retain a lot of the
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sort of juicy parts of it for
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Iran episode was trailers burn bags they
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have a right now either with the guys
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coming out of the swamp and then i had a
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couple trailers but that what they
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overdid it was the TV ads and
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over-the-top home TV as you have like
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they weren't adding anything and it was
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just confusing things and I think the
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approach they're using for this movie is
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much more sort of modern in you know
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Star Wars rebels is essentially an
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extended trailer for this movie and that
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but it is it is showing things from that
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universe that looks similar to the movie
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is keeping star wars in the public
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consciousness and it's making sure that
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kids will know the star wars still thing
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it is still an ongoing thing that you
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know kids are watching Star Wars rebels
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directly into this moment I just I just
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I just paste it into the into our little
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i am the be a meme awaken switches the
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lightsabers with like eight things
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coming off of the many things coming off
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yeah it looks like it looks like an
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ordinary person who's going to grab a
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lightsaber handle activated and 17
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blades computer and porcupine blade they
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call it well I was picturing jason's
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thing where it's like oh yeah just
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blowing off extra stuff like what if it
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comes out the back of the handle that's
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terrible as terrible design does that
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boys what what do I have to do to get
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you in this later okay i guess i could i
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can add 10 more beams are together it'll
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sell better do the ones that come out of
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the hand look uncomfortable you just
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gotta hold it just right you can do what
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you do in that our problem
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I mean we've continually see again you
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know John reference there was probably a
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couple times the the Darth malish
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lightsaber in that one used by the
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Inquisitr which not only has two plates
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a general grievous thing going and
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everyone's like you just take a bunch of
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nobodies that one had like an
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interesting plot thing where you know he
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keeps the ones from his vanquished foes
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because why would you throw them out
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there perfectly good and then put small
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hands and he's been same reason of the
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TIE fighters in the Stormtrooper here
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perfectly good stormtrooper armor don't
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throw it out
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yeah I think it would be better like if
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I had to find a new lightsaber our
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direction through the set of movies what
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i would do on Syracuse's dream job yeah
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I like savor our director is ignoring
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ignoring the shapes of the handles what
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i would do is if we have two sides here
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i would decide what the Whiteside
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lightsabers look like and what the
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darkside lightsabers look like and they
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were just
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actually be kind of like it you know and
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then lord of the rings movies where you
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have what or what an art store looks
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like and what elements are looks like
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they have things like all the people all
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the riders of rohan have someone looking
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source all the Elvis towards you have
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share similar sort of theme and so I
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would give them things before we know
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we've done i could only see one thing or
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whatever but within the themes you can
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do variations but I don't like the idea
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of just everybody's life savers just
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randomly different like you if you're
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gonna have one unique snowflake i'm
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garth model special because he has a
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double in daylight savings guys
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especially since t-shape I said well the
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dark side in the prequels everybody has
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a different light so you got a curved
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handle lightsaber you got it should
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there should be a there should be a
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thing like sift lightsaber should look
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like this with variations like sidelight
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here which looks like this direction i'm
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starting talking in terms of how many
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blades and where they are and i'm
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talking about handle you know what i
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mean but I always sort of rebuilding the
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idea that the all the city need to have
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red lightsaber is like what if you what
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if that's not your favorite color
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like what if you're a like SF and your
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favorite color is green like that really
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sucks i bet it really hurts your stealth
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abilities to calculate the main simply
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would be you know some water war all I
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table should be blue or green
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why do white with me right because as
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soon as you pull out your lights able to
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turn out like that guy's definitely evil
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we should just kill him right now
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especially his life looks awfully me and
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Static yeah it is because the good guy
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is gonna turn out that he's he appears
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when we hear and light maybe he's the
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hero and he was Jeff I and this is all a
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giant screw you and I will not my type
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cast by the color of my lightsaber what
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if you like a purple lightsaber like
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mace windu yeah I think there's some
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kind of I don't know the details with
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some kind of thing about the the colors
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to make each one of them and also that
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was that
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remember they had an episode in clone
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wars about there's an episode where they
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have to go find different crystals but
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it's like the hardest of all is the blue
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down nation let's see you can read more
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about this in my Jedi self-help book
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what color is your lights and ok looking
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on amazon Tatooine seriously that's your
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that's your new fan fish could be what
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color's your lightsaber tips for Jedi
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add a crossroads
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you know I don't know
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anything more we should say about this
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thing I mean we've only been talking for
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hosting network of that 80 seconds of
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your trailer it's gonna kill me to wait
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a year now and I really
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a year now and I really
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you know I get in with the enzyme going
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to be i hope i get when i was a when I
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was much younger I remember story told
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me about my cousin who was convinced she
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was gonna die before return the Jedi
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came out because like you should know so
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she saw the end of the Empire in the
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theaters when she was a kid and she's
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like I'm never gonna make it to be so
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yeah in some ways it feels like here so
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long but at the same time it's like
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trying to do the avoiding spoilers thing
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I think it's just gonna be really
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difficult and i referenced in the in the
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six colors post I wrote The Phantom
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Menace soundtrack debacle was below yes
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it's the quiet grounds funeral trip yeah
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worst spoil ever like two days
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beforehand about the soundtrack flipped
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over what this guy dies
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yeah so I'm going to avoid I as much as
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I want to listen to the soundtrack gotta
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wait until after the movie comes out got
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ya so it's like careful
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we're going to walk down between now and
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then but doesn't learn their lesson that
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the the episode 7 soundtrack each track
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is going to be just like what ? surname
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future that we know it's coming thank
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you everybody dies right everybody
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produced and c3po funeral like every
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character and character movies
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misdirection you don't know what JJ
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Abrams just trolling yeah with us that's
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right will be the special special
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edition early edition now I'm kind of
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glad this trailer does not meet my
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expectations because it's helping me
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tamp down like this it's helping me tamp
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down the enthusiasm for do not repeat
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the mistake of episode 1 and tried to
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keep my expectations in line you know
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yeah I I can't I can't do it like I'm
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trying I i admit i'm trying but I'm i
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will never not love the idea of new
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stories in this universe i may be
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constantly disappointed but I love this
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this universe so much that I'm always
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like I will never not be excited at the
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possibility that there will be a good
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well it's just marvelous ation of Star
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Wars is good and that like we now don't
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have to hang all of our hopes on the you
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know towards 3some every couple of years
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releases from one particular tortured
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genius now will be a franchise and if 12
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or you know if we get some you know
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Green Lantern's mixed in so long as long
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as we get them along with like the
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ironman villains don't cross the streams
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that's not even marvel
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no but I don't say i know i would say
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like superhero movies superhero movies
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are thing it's not like we have to wait
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for and you know when we have a stinker
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superhero movie like matter what they'll
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be there will be more more will be along
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in a minute just wait like a bus stop
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and I just can't work and so with the
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star wars one with them both doing the
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episode numbers and like the standalone
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films if these end up being fingers it's
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not like now I am crushed for the next
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three years or nine years or however
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long you know there's hope for the next
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yeah because it's not the same crew
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making them it's not the same people
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writing that was not saying people
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directing all of them there is always
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hope so this is like Dan said this is
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actually our first chance to get on the
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big screen stories in this universe in a
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legitimate fashion big stories the
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universe used to be movies made with the
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approval of george lucas was not a
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particularly diverse way to get stories
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in this universe right right and at the
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expectation level was so high and they
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were they were they were all these
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perfect you know flowers they had to
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succeed or fail but they would be like
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one and then they walk away and it's
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years and now it's a machine that's
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going to be putting out Star Wars movies
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every year and he it's different if most
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hey you know what I like 30 like the
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for it and then it's like all right
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whatever they like what can a marvel
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superhero movie like it could be kind of
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more serious like you know the captain
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seriously but Thor was you know i
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unabashedly silly and not the same you
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for a light-hearted
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galaxy mean yeah like that was that
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yeah in that direction or like you know
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i don't i don't know it will take a
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ones for you have to start with the star
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trek reboot did was like here is here is
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an example of the form as you expect
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ah and like what what frees you up to be
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able to make a goofy movie about drugs
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or something I don't know this is not
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going to be the goofy movie address this
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has to be the straight-ahead star wars
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movie and maybe after three or four of
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these you're freed up where ya been
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then you get the spin-off which is like
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two hours of like yoda bodily humor soon
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you're gonna love that you love it John
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yeah I don't like after you have to sort
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of it you have to sort of establish your
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credibility first to make the other sort
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of ancillary movies in the universe work
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and right i don't know what the timeline
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is gonna be like to because of these
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these three movies are obviously going
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to be you know an arc that travels
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through I don't know how you leave the
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other movies in between the matter even
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know what lenses and and it's a back
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it's the reverse to what we saw with the
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individual movies come out and then they
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culminate in the adventures now we're
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seeing the sort of tentpole think ahead
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of time and then it sort of balloons out
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behind that into all these different
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properties so there is a lot there's a
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lot obviously riding on this movie you
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know it also has the best chance that
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this is the modern type of thing with
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harry potter and the Marvel movies where
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owner and the corporate owner is fairly
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savvy about or maybe not savvy about
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least not afraid to try different things
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try different directors try different
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approaches you know the the Harry Potter
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movies varied wildly in you know in in
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tone in appearance and I mean obviously
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the cast was the same but that's that's
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what you know sort you sort of hold the
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story in the cast constant and see how
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you can vary within that universe and
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they're not afraid to do that they're
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not afraid to give you know this movie
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the joss whedon and this movie do you
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know someone else and like mix it up and
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try to get a list everything and if it
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doesn't work out of some combination of
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people doesn't seem to gel try a
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different combination don't just say
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like he's our star to star wars guy he's
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going to get the whole franchise like a
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showrunner for the next 15 years and no
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one wants to do that anymore except
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George Lucas because this is baby
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he's out of the picture and be it gives
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you hope for the future and that no
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matter what this combination of this
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production team does or like doctor who
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like you don't like this production team
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you don't like the showrunner wait long
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long enough it'll it'll cycle around
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again so that gives will get inevitably
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will get the reboots at some point
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yeah I'm ready for the reboots I want
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them to I want to see and you know
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original trilogy Star Wars reboot before
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i die so someone get that on their
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schedule somewhere I think you can
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safely say that that is in Disney's
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vault somewhere
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yeah i mean Marvel has has a schedule to
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2020 already so I don't know what
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they're waiting on how long i think i'm
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going to live they better get this in
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the planning stages available but the
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fact that they're probably they're
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probably planning a lot I i think i
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think we've heard some of the ideas
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about what what some of these inner
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interim movies are going to be and I
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think they're going over sort of classic
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characters and telling stories with them
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i suspect that may happen for the first
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few years just as the force awakens and
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that storyline kind of goes forward
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although i would love it to love to see
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a Marvel less kind of thing where
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they're all kind of like sharing a
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universe and telling interlocking
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stories something right the breakdown
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gonna be it's early to force the second
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movie is gonna be the force its news so
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that's really definitely got the horse
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gets out of bed makes a cup of coffee
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and decided man and forgot to itv I
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think this does you know mention well
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with the idea of we're talking about
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like sort of what if they're you know if
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there had been no more no more Jedi or
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for sensitive people for the last 30
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years or whatever this covers and all of
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a sudden now we're starting to see you
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know there are people with you get my
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kind of the flash approach where it's
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like now there are people with powers
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but some of the market and some of them
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are bad and we get to explore what that
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looks like over the course of 20 movies
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yeah well I I appreciate the idea that
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the this Universal rich that there are
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also you can take the approach of having
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these anthology movies that are just on
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just in the star wars universe somewhere
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at some time and that seems to be where
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they're starting and we'll see where
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they go from there
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i I don't know whether it's better this
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is such a rich universe that having
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going back and being able to explore
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boba fett maybe it's not so bad but you
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know I don't know that the way the
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Marvel Universe thing has done it has
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been to have it all be intertwined and
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simultaneously I think you can do that
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the model franchise history on patients
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in that I obviously if you did you know
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the complex stories you know where it's
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going anyway but that there is no
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equivalent comic book stories here they
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can have the patience to for example
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have a movie about a foreign sensitive
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person on the planet that we haven't
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really seen before and just have it be
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like a personal story or like
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coming-of-age story and maybe maybe have
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a good coming-of-age story like a ghost
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a John Hughes movie in space but like
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they're in Jedi high school and that the
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people know whatever like just the whole
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kind of the ice i called my cell called
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for sensitive life
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yeah just to work your way into that and
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they like what was the point of that
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movie was just kind of a or like a harry
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potter type thing you know you are a
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person with power is this problem with
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that you have problems with your family
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whatever it's like what was the point of
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that movie while you build that
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character up and now that character is
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ready to step up to the next level of
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the franchise and by you know several
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movies down the line that person who you
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still have a coming-of-age story or
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their their story of their life in the
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slums of of tatooine working for the
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huts or whatever that can culminate in
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each person who makes it out of each one
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of those individual movies becoming an
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important person as they meet in a sort
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of secondary movie and that you know
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working your way up to what we assume to
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be the the important trilogy event which
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is you know good versus evil on a grand
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scale that happen will happen and I
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wasn't in any of these meetings you
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believe that huh that they're lost John
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their loss
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what is their problem nobody ever knows
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what they prob what they really see this
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is what they really lack is good ideas
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what the two and star wars universe if
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only someone had some ideas about things
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you could just star wars anybody have
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any ideas that go round table just be so
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on faces that but i think that no one
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another problem isn't any thought
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actually yeah the problem is star wars
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are is like just a really difficult
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title to say all the time
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anyone have any ideas anyone nope
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nothing
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how about two lights everybody go home
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bit obvious you guys have not done your
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homework you know you probably haven't
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given this franchiser this universe a
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lot of thought maybe think about it
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sure alright well I think we're done
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I think we've done it i think we talked
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for more than an hour about a trailer
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because I'm for less than two minutes i
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think that is a table style and shot the
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star wars minute
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where they have 20 minute podcast about
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each minute yeah its strategy so we're
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still crystal proportionally reasonable
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yeah sure okay fair enough
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alright well thanks to everybody out
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there for listening to our sudden
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hastily convened podcast about Star Wars
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things Dan and John thank you both for
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being here and i love i love your
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enthusiasm about this and I i just want
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to say I think it's really great that
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Star Trek is coming back
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what's coming back yeah I'm just rolling
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you to make another one of those yeah
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they are apparently but not with jay
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from he's busy and some other franchise
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whatever the force will not be with you
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Jason never never
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alright thanks for listening everybody
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goodbye
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