The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► the Intolerable number 227 December 2014 [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► welcome back to the incomparable podcast [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► everybody i'm your host Jason's now [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► we're here to convene another edition of [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► the old movie club Movie Club stating [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► that that that's our theme song [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► I was thinking about it earlier today it [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► is now the official theme song of the [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► old movie club [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► let me introduce my guests the singer of [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► the theme song old man number one Steve [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► let's hello good evening Jason it's good [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► to be back in old movie land it is i [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► think so [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► Monty actually also joins us haimanti I [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► jason i am also pleased to be here in [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► the old movie clubhouse [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► oh good i unfortunately the no girls [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► allowed sign was put on the door tonight [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► because their design was very tired and [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► had to bow out that makes us sad and we [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► blame canada because one of the movies [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► were going to discuss tonight not [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► available in canada i don't know why not [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► available in canada indian taco is not [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► in Canada and therefore is here [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► hi Andy hey Jason that if we're gonna be [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► recording this on nitrate film stock let [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► me know cause I need to put out this [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► pipe okay did not know let's just see [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► what happens [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► it'd be it'd be a shame if we got like [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► 90 minutes of beautiful stellar stuff [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► and then poof just like related [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► Magnificent Ambersons all over again [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► oh I don't think there's much risk it [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► now you might think that me and the [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► three people have already introduced [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► would be really enough people to fill [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► this very small stateroom that were in [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► and you'd be right so let's but but in [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► fact bring it in bring it on in David [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► Laura come on in with whatever you're [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► bringing come on into the stateroom it's [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► good to have on [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► Oh huh make that five all days I yeah [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► yep and Amanda she can do this the whole [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► podcast broccoli and I and the [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► impresario of the old movie club your [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► your your master of ceremonies it is [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► Philip Michaels hello hello how are you [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► tonight I'm doing just fine how are you [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► I'm okay I'm okay alright just okay yeah [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► little bit sleepy little bit sleepy very [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► sleepy trying to keep the any energy of [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► energy and I and I hope our listeners in [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► Canada have turned off the podcast [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► because it's not for you appearance [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► no no one must know about the Marx [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► Brothers anyway are our topic tonight is [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► the Marx Brothers and the reason i [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► wanted to do this [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► toward the end of the year is because of [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► a tradition that that Philip Michaels [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► that you you have and actually passed on [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► to me and now and now this happens in [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► our family to wear where there's a [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► ritualistic playing of the Marx Brothers [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► film duck soup around about New Year's [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► Eve can you explain a little bit about [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► how that came about because we're we're [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► going to talk about duck soup and we're [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► going to talk about a night at the opera [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► and we're going to more generally talk [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► about the Marx Brothers in this end of [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► the year edition so on when I was a when [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► I was elite well a wee lad growing up in [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► Southern California channel 5 KTLA or [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► killa as well call it from here on out [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► its law so every New Year's Eve channel [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► 5 down in LA or at least for New Year's [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► Eves when I was a lad they would show [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► Marx Brothers movies and probably [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► because they were very cheap to air it [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► was a very cheap tvs it's a very cheap [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► TV station and the one that I most ring [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► true to me as a youngster probably [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► because the air did have an hour in [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► which I was actually awake on New Year's [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► Eve was a duck soup and the movie itself [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► has nothing to do whatsoever with new [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► years even yet subsequently I just [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► associated with that holiday and I am [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► watch that and other movies on on New [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► Year's Eve rather than go out and revel [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► with other people because as the the man [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► once said hell is other people yeah and [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► i would rather just watch movies yeah [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► yeah so so what do you think should we [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► start with our super we started let's [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► let's start with duck soup on the [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► earlier the DSP relievers yes this is [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► the their last movie that they did with [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► paramount which will be important once [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► we get to the the Night at the Opera [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► portion of this conversation but duck [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► soup [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► is stars all four of the Marx Brothers [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► including the the the little remembered [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► Zeppo and it's a it's set in the [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► mythical country of fredonia which is [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► going through a tough time I'm [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► recounting the plot like it actually [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► matters you're about done yes wait [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► there's a plot [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► yeah no it'll take me about a minute if [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► we without interruptions anyhow for [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► doughnut locks for dad for johnny is on [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► the rocks they apparently are entirely [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► funded by wealthy patron efforts because [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► I be the the great market to mod who is [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► mrs. Teasdale and she demands that Rufus [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► T Firefly be named the leader for donia [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► Rufus T Firefly is of course Groucho now [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► there's an rival country called sylvania [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► that are very much like to take over her [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► don't ya i love i look and i just [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► mentioned that i love that [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► sylvania is every time I laugh when they [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► announced that because I imagined that [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► their main exporter light bulbs yes in [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► the original draft here is that here's a [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► little fun fact it was apparently the [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► country of amnesia and so that they are [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► the the main sylvanian is ambassador [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► ambassador Trentino trentino played by [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► lee calhoun was actually a really [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► accomplished actor he goes on to do a [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► lot of things he plays julius caesar in [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► the Marlon Brando julius caesar ii he's [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► in asphalt jungle and blackboard jungle [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► and other movies without jungle in the [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► title [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► easy easy he's quite a good dramatic and [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► comedic actor and you you get to see the [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► comedy on display here anyhow he's [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► trying to subvert democracy such a [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► person is no donors there's no democracy [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► it it's basically from mrs. Teasdale say [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► so and she's crazy [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► so so was was mrs. Teasdale's husband [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► sort of the rich benefactor of fredonia [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► is that is one at one assumes hear that [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► it back story James Franco will play him [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► in a prequel with that the only [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► backstory i care about is how the hell [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► she decided that Rufus T Firefly would [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► make a good eater for the country haha [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► yeah there's no explanation of that one [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► characteristic of Margaret Dumont is [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► that she's always in love with Groucho [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► no matter who he is or how horribly he [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► treats her [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► yeah actually sweet on him [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► and so she wants to have him take this [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► job because she's sweet on him and [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► that's that's that's nice [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► evolving terrible for the people of [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► fredonia and so the ambassador of [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► sylvania enlist the help of two spies [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► chucklino and pinky are you go and [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► purple marks and they change sides about [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► 20 times during the BS the girls so [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► they're so chicolini is a because he's [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► it's not chico it's chico apparently and [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► so you know we all call him chico but [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► he's chico and so then I was like oh [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► chicolini that's perfect pinky I have no [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► explanation for its because harpos hair [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► is supposed to be red [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► ok sorry I'm colorblind and also is in [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► black and white [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► yeah well you know what color Lucille [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► Ball's hair was right [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► yeah but I saw the ones that she was in [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► that were in color so that was just [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► explaining these all right Thank you [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► Thank You Monty things that period [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► between fredonia and sylvania one of the [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► things I really like about this is how [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► fast duck soup moves that it is [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► yeah it it it doesn't care to make sense [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► of things and I actually kind of love [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► that at the beginning that first scene [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► is like well if you want my money you've [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► got to put Rufus T Firefly in charge and [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► everybody's like but ok cut to this is a [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► seasoned minute movie it is they do not [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► waste any time they they get work they [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► say that you're in but the entire first [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► six minutes is almost wasted time you [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► have internet i remembered radicals in [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► drag down right away but Zeppo has a [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► song before graph shows there's a [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► there's a full six minutes with Neri [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► laughs from the from the opening credits [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► to when Groucho finally makes his [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► entrance there's well you got it you got [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► to have your setup you got it well that [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► I mean come on six minutes set up for a [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► 60-minute movie [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► check your said field i have and wow [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► there but they're waiting for the clock [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► to strike 10 because very exciting [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► things are going to happen a clock [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► strikes ten as the song says and and [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► then they play the hill for DoDEA song [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► like a given begin again hoping that [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► something will happen i find this that [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► we've gotta get simple something to do [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► so he doesn't quit the act part that [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► didn't work [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► you know I never [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► as a movie on those last-minute yeah in [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► this movie he doesn't even have a [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► romance which i find fascinating he [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► plays out hehe as Groucho secretary yes [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► if for those of you keeping score at [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► home and his name is Bob said he sent a [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► letter to my dentist [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► there's a theory in the last episode was [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► secretly a brilliant comedian and he's [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► parodying straight men and always rolls [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► if he is this is his best performance if [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► you read the various Marx Brothers [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► biographies apparently off-screen he was [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► he was just the naturally funniest Tom [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► but he never really developed a [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► character because he was he replaced his [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► brother gumbo in the act [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► get it in the the vaudeville act got mo [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► apparently wasn't too into it when he [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► was apparent when he was drafted into [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► world war one he said anything's better [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► than being an actor and coffee when and [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► Zeppo who was the youngest of the the [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► brothers uh could sing a bit and and and [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► apparently filled in a lot for the for [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► the other brothers when they couldn't do [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► parts but anyhow here he's he's ill use [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► likes it or not really used at no but I [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► as I was saying conditions devolved [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► between fredonia and sylvania and war [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► breaks out and really this is all just a [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► thin excuse for the Marx Brothers to to [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► do there there little bits whether it's [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► a the physical comedy of Harpo or [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► whether it's the the interplay between [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► chico and and and Groucho and and [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► Groucho pitching woo to market to mod [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► while simultaneously insulting her and [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► there's a there's a couple of really [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► good I i enjoy the musical numbers some [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► some people may disagree but I i said [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► earlier today on twitter that duck soup [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► i think is my favorite comedy and and I [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► stand by that I think it holds up really [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► well for a movie that's doing math in my [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► head now 80 usual one now 81 years old [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► yeah you know I was going to compare [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► this when we get to night at the opera [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► the the songs in this I like the songs [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► in this too I like the clock strikes ten [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► i like the repeated help Adonia i really [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► love Groucho's [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► song you know wait til I get through [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► with it how he's going to destroy the [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► design life one of my favorite [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► graduation songs that and whatever it is [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► I'm against it from horsefeathers I [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► think those are those are grouches two [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► greatest musical numbers [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► yeah I'm waiting I'm pausing for someone [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► to dispute that I'm sure money money and [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► he will have local 121 good moment about [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► the circus Lydia oh well that's true i [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► feel obliged to put in for Captain [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► Spaulding I think it's a really fun song [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► know the goods not better than whatever [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► it is I'm against it but it's a fun song [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► and I i really i really love the musical [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► number at the end the Fredonia is going [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► to war song we got guns [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► yeah I only have two let's go out it's [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► uncomfortable but I i think that there's [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► a clever bit of political commentary [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► going on there about nationalism I think [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► and I it's done in a really fun way and [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► it's it's got them playing a drum solo [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► on the helmet of soldiers and and it's [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► it's fun yeah move it is not every movie [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► it's it's nice to have a movie that's [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► fun to watch and zips along and six [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► minutes of us setup notwithstanding from [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► there you go baby go [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► that's where you're winding the little [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► car up and then you let go and it is it [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► hot rod taking off after you want it and [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► I don't know [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► again not knowing a lot about the [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► history of this is obviously many of you [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► do I can't decide whether how much of [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► this is sort of skating and and and [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► brutal criticism of the way that [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► governments work and the way that [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► they've read in a war and people died [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► and how much of it is sort of well it's [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► a it's a thing to hang our our silliness [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► off of because from the perspective of [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► 80 years later I am surprised pleasantly [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► at how kind of you know straightforward [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► they are about about ripping into the [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► way that governments treat their people [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► I it baby it amazes me [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► I mean I know this is a lot of times we [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► get the perspective that that films are [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► sort of whitewashed and and simplified [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► and and I think that actually came later [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► in the history [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► 30 film this but I just everytime [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► everytime i see this movie I am I I [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► think it's kind of breathtaking about [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► how I how political it is and how [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► anti-establishment it is it's it love it [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► there's that famous Groucho quote where [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► whenever someone would bring up the [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► political savvy of the movie he would [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► just sort of roll his eyes and say what [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► we were just for just trying to get a [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► laugh but right proud graduate said a [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► lot of things that Groucho was a master [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► of deflection I think I i think there [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► was um I i think there was a bit of some [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► subversiveness to this movie which is [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► why it holds up really well for a for a [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► movie that's eight decades old [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► I think the political aspects were [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► probably inevitable because they just [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► made horsefeathers where the joke is [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► what if they're in charge of a college [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► and what well now we just turn it up now [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► their charge of a country but that [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► doesn't mean they have to go to war and [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► deliberately wear different uniforms in [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► every scene that's what that is a great [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► visual children that should also points [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► to like how different this is from all [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► the later MGM movies because this is [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► definitely this is definitely one in [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► which you can have a gag in which [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► Groucho is completely unaware that the [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► mirror separating gantu runs and broken [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► and that this three-dimensional image [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► looking back is actually another person [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► they could take that they can think what [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► they could make an exchange they could [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► walk break through the plane and it's [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► it's just a game that we're playing that [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► as soon as one of them fails to do the [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► other thing you've got the other person [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► then you can legally buy madonia rules [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► now sees them as a spy [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► yes there are other movies where you [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► can't you can't do that there's [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► somewhere [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► yes you can its cartoon physics notes [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► it's like I love it 630 that's there's [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► so many like rules of comedy that way [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► we're just like is it really is almost [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► like that's part of the social contract [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► in this movie like when like a like when [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► Harper on Chico are having that fight [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► with the lemonade vendor outside and [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► it's such a plastic thing we're now we [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► all understand what the rules are [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► first I do something to you and then I [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► wait patiently while you do something to [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► me i'm not going to i'm not going to [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► stop you from taking the hat off my head [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► and sing something [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► fire to it that would be wrong that [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► would not be supported in the book [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► Groucho Harpo chico and sometimes eppo [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► by Joe adamson which is a great look at [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► the market others whole career he makes [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► the point that especially in duck soup [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► the Marx Brothers deliberately make [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► things harder for themselves [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► just out of pure perversity like Groucho [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► could just reach out and see if there's [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► a mirror there but nope he's gonna dance [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► around because that's more fun when [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► Chico and her people have to break into [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► a house they break in they break back [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► out they break back in again just for [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► the fun of that this whole seen the [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► breaking into the house scene would take [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► forever in a Laurel and Hardy movie [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► because they be unable to get past the [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► door but the Marx Brothers it makes no [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► difference to them what the rules are [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► that are just do whatever they want [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► they'll get caught because it's more fun [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► that way like a monkey business when [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► they're trying to get past the customs [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► people it's clearly possible for them to [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► do it anytime they want [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► yeah too much work yeah I i want to talk [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► about the mirror scene because i don't [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► know i haven't sat down and thought [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► about my favorite scenes ever in [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► comedies but boy that has been cracked [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► the top five [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► yeah because I I easy I i think i've [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► watched duck soup [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► well I but I'm 42 years old i'm going to [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► say at least three dozen times in my [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► life and there is not a time that I've [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► watched it that i don't i don't crack up [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► at the mirror scene I know what's coming [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► and it's fantastic and I finally showed [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► it to my daughter who's 4 years old [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► just this week and and and she laughed [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► hysterically and and talks about it [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► because it's it's great and then let's [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► ruin it for the people listening who who [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► haven't seen it it's basically a spoiler [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► spoiler for a two-year-old movie [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► yeah that is the subject of the podcast [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► you've chosen to listen to radio exactly [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► everyone everyone is uh all of the Marx [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► Brothers except for Zeppo are in mrs. [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► Teasdale sounds [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► and they've all disguised themselves as [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► Groucho except for graduate who is [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► currently Groucho and that trying to get [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► the plans for war and there's a great [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► bit with a UH Harpo confusing a radio [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► with a safe and he turns on the radio [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► and it can't turn it off even after he [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► smacks into pieces and still making it [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► so it's going on my god it's so many of [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► these 0 that window these bits that came [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► from the Marx Brothers I saw so many [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► times over and over again in Bugs Bunny [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► cartoon we have years without realizing [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► that they had originated years ago in [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► the Marx Brothers absolutely lifted [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► explore stuff i think i've seen the [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► mirror thing three or four times and [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► Warner Brothers cartoon as well and so [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► so Harpo panics and runs into a mirror [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► and breaks the mirror and Groucho [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► finally is is convinced to go look at [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► all this commotion and its species [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► basically Harpo dresses him and assume [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► so it's my reflection and they do a [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► whole series of actions and and that the [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► the crowning moment is when Groucho [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► doesn't elaborate dance maneuver and [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► spins around hoping our can't even be [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► bothered to spend just sticks his arms [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► like he's really does the flourish at [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► the end of that is are you kids graduate [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► can't see because he's facing the wrong [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► way why should I bother that single [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► gesture that single gesture is my [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► favorite single thing in any movie ever [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► I quite liked the bit where Groucho [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► tries to trip him up by picking up a hat [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► ok and and and Harpo on the other side [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► of the mirror doesn't have that same hat [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► so he's got a different head and they [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► they sort of walk around each other as [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► Groucho is trying to get a look at the [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► Hat yes walking through with the mirror [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► with you what right do they make it walk [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► through the plane of the mirror [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► three-dimensional learned at the end the [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► CUDA grass is is grouchy flips it up [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► onto his head and the hat has somehow [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► changed that Harpo had into the same hat [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► graduate had somewhere in the process of [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► that and it ends up being a perfect [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► reflection you forgot you forgot one of [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► the funniest parts of that we're Harper [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► like drops had Groucho like picks up [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► cancer 20 yeah yeah yeah thank you [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► that's okay that part doesn't break it [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► into account when he saw the Hat [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► behind her post back it doesn't count [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► that Harpo is dissolving into silent [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► laughter right in front of him [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► no wonder those count ok it's only when [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► chica wanders into the shot that the [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► same wait a minute jig is up [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► that is yeah that is a spectacular thing [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► and it's and silent completely and [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► absolutely silent once you've accepted [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► the fact that there is an identical room [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► behind the mirror you can pretty much [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► except anything [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► yeah well see that visit this is why for [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► donations in such financial straits they [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► make certain concessions every room [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► facing every other room is the mirror [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► and bring it with style even kim jang [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► hoon doesn't do that stuff and that's a [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► pretty rare seen by the way because [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► Groucho and Harpo don't pair off that [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► often [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► right now they do not yeah Chico is the [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► link between them [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► hmm yeah it's not enough is written [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► about just how terrible country for Tony [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► yes from we've already talked about the [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► The Millionaire heiress like deciding [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► who gets to be the ruler but you can [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► pick cabinet ministers who are selling [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► peanuts outside your window you can you [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► can do all sorts of terrible things it's [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► there's apparently some sort of lemonade [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► shortage because there's like a [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► 20-person line at the guys lemonade card [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► it's a very popular Lemonade Stand he's [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► he really he has the artisanal uh [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► address of the the native fredonia ins [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► so it is it is apparently it's entirely [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► possible that a financial bailout is not [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► going to rescue this government that may [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► or may be one of those moods where those [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► too-big-to-fail sort of things it in the [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► real world President Johnson would have [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► sent in like an exploratory force and [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► set up a puppet government and how that [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► would enable fredonia declared a society [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► and chaos and install the colonial [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► government but you said the dude with [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► the old british way that's actually one [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► of the things that I appreciate about [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► this movie is that it is populated by by [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► American actors and other other people [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► that we would see is our people in it as [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► a member of the United States seeing [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► these people in in these little [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► country's going to war with each other i [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► like that i like i like that thing that [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► it's not like the US and canada or [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► something like that it's putting it and [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► it's very easy for you as a person in [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► the united states especially to say well [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► you know these little country [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► that fight off the dividend to them [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► that's not us and I always like that in [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► this movie that it's us we're seeing but [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► they're in these little countries having [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► this crazy thing going on i love that [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► combination that's all what do we want [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► to talk about market demand now i love i [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► love Margaret tomorrow I'll be I'll be [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► happy to talk about market tomorrow [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► yes I i lost count of how many Marx [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► Brothers movie see appears and maybe [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► Montier or and he can jump in with the [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► the actual total but seven okay there [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► you go to the one she's not in stock [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► because I feel like they would be [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► nothing without her she's so perfect [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► they are the later ones and the very [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► early winter so gather it beyond it [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► isn't monkey business has somewhat odd [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► is the yes yes yeah and that's ok that [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► that's probably the best-known market [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► demand movie but market tomorrow really [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► shichi is the glue that holds things [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► together because it's the old it's the [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► old comedy adage it doesn't work if the [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► SAP doesn't have dignity you don't feel [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► like she's a victim you like for reasons [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► that she doesn't wish to do wish to [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► share he feels as though the price [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► whatever it is that he delivers to her [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► life is worth what she absolutely [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► acknowledges i know i gotta put up with [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► this but believe me there's upsides this [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► relationship that you can't figure out [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► she's not a victim she's a masochist [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► constant abuse and insulting it she [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► comes back from over all but I'm a [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► multi-person teach me the reading of the [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► word respect spalding Chico is the is [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► the the character that that it sits [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► between Groucho and Harpo I feel like [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► Margaret Dumont is essentially the [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► conduit between Groucho and like logical [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► thought and reality [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► yeah and it's amazing to watch it [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► because he's telling jokes at her [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► expense [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► she everything he says is completely [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► ridiculous on the face of it and she [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► reacts to it and the way she's written [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► to but the the actress bring such a [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► great dignity to it she reacts to it all [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► as if it's perfectly fine and logical [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► and behaves as if what's happening [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► around her is anchored somehow in the [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► real world which of course it's not [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► remotely and i think without that it [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► isn't as effective I and [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► love that I actually it's I think it's [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► fundamentally hilarious that she behaves [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► completely as if this is a logical when [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► it's completely not that is so funny and [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► so important I think in accepting what [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► you're seeing it as a person who lives [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► in a logical world to to look at this [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► thing and be like this is ridiculous but [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► she makes it funnier because she anchors [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► into reality a little and her delivery [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► is just so perfect sheet that it'sit's [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► your your typical wealthy Gallinger of [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► the the whole exchange between her and [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► Groucho where he says you might think me [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► a sentimental old fluff but can I have a [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► lock of your hair and the way that she [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► says loculi yeah you're getting off easy [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► i was gonna ask for the whole wig [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► maybe it's just it's just a great little [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► bit but it's it's sold just by the way [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► that she delivers that the setup line [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► no yeah the complete list of firm Marx [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► Brothers movies is starts all the way [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► back at the coconuts then animal [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► crackers duck soup night at the opera [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► day at the races at the circus and the [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► big store so she skipped monkey business [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► and horsefeathers [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► yeah she's not a horse feathers and I I [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► like horsefeathers uh but it suffers for [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► her lack of presence in the chat room we [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► had several people praising as i was [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► wanting to do a lemonade man yeah Edgar [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► Kennedy yeah it who great slow burn [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► yeah oh yeah as and then his hat which [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► is a fast burn so you know you lose as [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► many hats it said I actually feel fit [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► he's the only character in this entire [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► movie that I kind of feel bad for [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► because he had had those nice hats [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► he wasn't doing nothing those two just [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► started picking on him for no reason it [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► gets cold at the end yep [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► yeah and it's bath is interrupted yeah [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► isn't this better than interrupted the [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► last insult there's clearly something in [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► that in that weird fredonia in protocol [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► that states that you can't just crush [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► the hell out of people who are [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► irritating you because it's he's a very [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► large man and Chico and [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► and Harpo are not nearly quite so large [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► and it seems like any normal man who was [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► not held back by some sort of societal [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► mores would have it would have put them [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► in the peanut machine itself and watch [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► them burn to a crisp [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► I like to think of some poor kid is a [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► big big fan of these movies like in the [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► thirties think oh I have very little [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► experience with other people [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► this is this is how conflicts are [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► handled i could just take this person's [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► account for half of their head try to [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► set it on fire and he will just stay [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► there do nothing and wait for [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► retribution like new [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► you know that's not how it works video [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► we will be wearing that hat internally [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► sir you ever tried to walk up somebody [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► and just put your leg in their hand it [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► doesn't go well no that is by far by the [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► way my favorite thing I'm all the [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► interactions with the lemonade man is [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► that is the fact that somebody keeps [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► ending up with somebody else's leg in [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► there and just it's so bizarre [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► see the reason it's so nice to each [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► other is that previously were the hot [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► dog vendor who was one of the other [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► vendors murdered and so they're they're [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► all kind of on edge because they don't [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► they know yeah it's gonna go badly if [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► there's any more violence in the fender [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► adonian street vendor wars have 1925 [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► reaction reaction that they're all [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► wearing body cams now they all know [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► they're being recorded [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► it's a yeah they crack down on that in [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► front of what's in front of the the the [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► Capitol building to Harper doesn't have [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► a cami as a live dog that lives inside [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► his chest that keeps an eye out [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► yeah something like that I do love that [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► that is a that is a fun sequence of bits [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► with the peanuts lemonade leg and [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► somebody's arm and then and then to pay [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► off at the end where the lemonade man [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► after losing many hats that it has his [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► bath interrupted [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► it's like of all the houses in all of [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► fredonia the poor eliminated man it's [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► just yeah it's a few happen as a young [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► impressionable kid might my favorite [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► bits in the movie besides the mirror bit [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► i love the the three times that graduate [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► tries to get in the the sidecar and our [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► post speeds awesome my son my son [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► thought was so saw a little bit of this [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► while we were watching it and he thought [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► that was the funniest thing ever [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► yeah now that's it when you're when when [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► you're in that when you're in that eight [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► to thirteen age range [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► Harpo on the motorcycle is is the [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► greatest thing ever and the other thing [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► is when Harper was writing to to warn [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► the Fredonia is that Slovenia is [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► attacking and the young lady calls to [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► him up to the room and he rushes up to [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► the room and they cut to the shot of his [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► boots on the floor and her boots on the [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► floor and then the four horseshoes and [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► has it as you got me and I began to [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► think that there's something weird about [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► that but because of the Hays Code she's [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► in a separate bed [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► exactly and horses between them yeah the [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► horses in the bed when part but that's [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► okay [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► there is a crackpot theory that I kind [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► of like which is that the harp oh that [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► is gross driver is not the same [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► character as the harp oh that is a spy i [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► was going to say that a pinky and [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► chicolini really terrible spies [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► generally responsible every pad like I [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► know I I'll acela peanuts [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► ok unless one of them is also the driver [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► for the President and onia like that's [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► really good spying if he got that job [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► now that's why I think that's a whole [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► different character that's also played [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► by her up although he never drives him [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► know he's there for about 30 seconds in [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► something takes off on his own [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► yeah he's a double agent he's pretty [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► he's saving him by back to crappy spy [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► again yeah could be going for the double [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► bluff where he's goin property he can't [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► possibly be at that as super-state [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► super-agent this [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► meanwhile he made while he's there with [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► a Minox camera his Excellency's car like [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► things like Oh mm what if he's [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► deliberately keeping his Excellency from [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► his important meetings sabotage [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► haha oh ya know there is good except so [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► in the in advance my career that [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► wednesday as a doubleheader nobody go we [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► see him really hoping I think we have a [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► great man [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► no bulky think we follow the wrong man [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► ok bad spies terrible bad Dino is [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► another character who has to pretend [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► that things that happen around ya sense [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► yeah actually you know that my favourite [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► bit in the whole what we we follow him [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► we go to the game he doesn't go to the [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► game [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► my favourite bit is where he says what [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► is it they the the kid there's no game [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► everybody goes [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► like what you see if it leads to [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► complete the illogic it's wonderful [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► that's no good that's no good no I think [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► we follow the wrong way and i'm a big [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► fan of shadow day because I feel like [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► they deliberately only followed up on [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► saturday so that they'd be able to stay [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► this stupid stupid joke during their [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► reports yeah like in thursday should we [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► not [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► I got a plan you know if you like plays [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► on words a Chico is your man in this [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► movie [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► yeah you know yes he does dallas texas i [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► got i got a job I got a job for you in [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► the mint no no like a mint whatever [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► flavors you got stupid that one that's [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► the kind of joke where you laugh out [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► loud man you say that stupid i sold a [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► code into Parapan plans [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► yeah their plans you [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► shame on you Chico and but he's always [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► looking around for approval for his [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► horrible nice cold glass of lemonade [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► jokes and he looks around haha that's a [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► good one in it boss no it's not a good [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► one chico quieter will have zero sing [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► and the place was doing wordplay based [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► on products that are no longer available [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► like okay I know that calomel he's [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► trying to do a wordplay and caramel I [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► just don't know what I calomel is well [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► there's calomel is also i walk a mile [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► for a calomel which is a joke on the [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► line I'd walk a mile for a camel camel [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► there must be a citizen I got my second [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► paper's like hey I will laugh at that is [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► though it's a joke and over want to go [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► to Wikipedia to find out what [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► integration I was like 30 it so this is [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► a reference that I always that there's a [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► reference and I always win stat and it's [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► not like a day at the races where [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► there's the school seniors will see [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► that's unfortunate but I'm just saying [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► that goes on forever [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► yeah it's also the time stops in that [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► yeah but beautiful silico so in this [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► Groucho says what is it [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► my mother was a little Armstrong the [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► head with little headstrong the [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► headstones married the armstrongs and [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► that's why darkies were born he says and [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► I think oh ok there's some racism so [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► went to the internet tried to get to the [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► bottom of this and discovered that [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► that's actually pair [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► partying a song called that's why [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► darkies were born which is a satire on [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► racism [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► yeah and so it turns out i don't have to [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► win that anymore because they're in on [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► that they're there they're making a [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► double reference to something that's [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► actually a satire against racism makes [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► me feel a lot better [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► well you say that and yet about and then [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► maybe and they went made the day at the [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► races so yeah yeah that that's seven [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► years ago I want to go see a duck soup [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► at on at the paramount theatre in [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► oakland on the big screen and they bring [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► out the Wurlitzer organ and showing [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► newsreel beforehand that joke not go [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► over well with the audience [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► well yeah you would essentially you need [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► to stop at me professor come up on [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► stands one giving a lecture we have PT [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► entry and that's what makes things funny [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► yeah maybe the only thing that got a [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► worse reaction was the newsreel [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► beforehand which had a thing about the [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► Shah of Iran and he didn't [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► Oakland is not ready to forgive the Sean [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► come anyway I at least at least i can [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► not win that and just go back to wincing [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► more at the the scene in India the races [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► it's yes no sure so I at the end of this [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► movie they do that we're going to war [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► song and then also Groucho is literally [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► in a different outfit in every single [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► scene because that's just like at this [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► point [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► look we've been watching a movie for [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► whatever 15 minutes and we already know [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► that it they don't care it doesn't [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► matter and that and if it's funny that [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► whatever they do there's just no there [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► are no rules here but and yet at this [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► moment you're like okay this is even [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► crazier than the previous 15 minutes of [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► this movie has been in a funny way also [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► if there's a boy scout costume yes right [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► to ya it becomes completely chaotic at [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► that point maybe using working with with [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► war makes perfect sense [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► I've seen this movie many times not as [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► many as Phil I still don't know why [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► Chico and her PO are on the Fredonia [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► inside for the end of the movie [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► well chicken comes in and says that he's [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► changed sides yes this is the one time [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► that he admits that he switch sides [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► because the food's better over here and [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► they actually have people encounter and [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► talk about all your partner is deserted [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► us [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► so that's that explains more about [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► oh I enjoy that are you know is always a [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► giant shells flying through the windows [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► but i'm sure i enjoy when they when they [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► when they call out for help you know [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► send help if you can't send help send [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► two more women and then they didn't cut [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► to the footage of first it's a fire [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► engines than police then marathon [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► runners and MPs are comin to get ya [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► florist and that is that is just one of [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► the greatest uses of stock footage ever [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► like it's like not answered and that [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► fundamentally that's one of the reasons [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► i love this movie is that is it it's [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► absurd but what it's talking about is [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► the absurdity of war and and that's just [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► it's so great it is so hilarious and [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► absurd and yet has that has that point [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► to it that this whole thing is [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► ridiculous and these are you know that [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► this is what 20 years after 15 years [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► after the ones that woman is officially [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► made its 360 no rotation [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► yeah yeah so not too long after the [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► horrors of World War one and with Europe [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► not looking very good right in the [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► mid-30s oh what a great time for a movie [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► like this but there is very clear and [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► and and it's apparently not everybody [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► saw it [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► yeah I guess then and of course as soon [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► as war is declared in the next scene [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► rubble everywhere [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► yeah yeah so fun fact about this movie [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► Mussolini banded in Italy busy if he [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► founded insulting which delighted the [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► Marx Brothers so I'm not saying if you [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► liked this movie or the same as [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► Mussolini practice but it is a little [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► known fact that the only reason [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► Mussolini got the job as there's a rich [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► widow who insisted for you because [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► people don't remember that but it's it's [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► absolutely true unless you give the job [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► to you [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► that's what we'll do change means [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► collection to chair the trains running [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► the time its chemical that's in the [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► ghoul it seems like chico isn't a better [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► miscellany stand-in yeah that's a good [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► right boss not is not good [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► hey that terrible German accent means we [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► should probably transition to Night at [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► the Opera in sickroom what is in that [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► one [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► i'm going to say a few things about duck [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► soup a cure and particular one thing [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► which is that this is the film that that [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► I guess made the Marx Brothers give me a [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► second chance with the Marx Brothers i [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► guess i should say because I had always [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► always grown up and as I was growing up [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► I would catch bits and pieces of Marx [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► Brothers films or like you know on [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► retrospectives on TV and catch like [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► classic bits from the mark brother marx [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► brothers and I was fun kind of [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► irritating and obnoxious it's in [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► particular Harpo with you know the [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► silence and the horns and the capering [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► and Harpo can be an acquired taste [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► mm-hmm i had always only ever seen bits [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► and pieces I've never seen a full film [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► and and I'm going to throw some glaring [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► in here and say that one day i was [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► having a beer with mike nelson I and [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► several the other rifftrax people Mike [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► Nelson of mst3k faith that's right that [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► Mike Nelson not actually his sister's [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► barbers dentist and rifftrax somewhat [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► lesser Fame the person or the character [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► that or the guy from sea hunt different [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► as I can tell there are virtually [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► identical episode 223 of the [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► uncomfortable for more about mystery [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► science theater 3000 little footnote [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► their side editor so Mike and several of [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► the other people who work for rifftrax [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► we're talking about how much they love [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► the Marx Brothers now great Marx [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► Brothers films were and i nearly open my [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► mouth and said I find them rather stupid [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► and irritating and then I realized you [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► know I've never actually seen an entire [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► Marx Brothers so I really need to go and [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► do that so that then I can then rightly [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► comment on them and at least bash them [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► righteously so I went watch duck soup [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► this is a couple years back and and i [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► watched it and I didn't think it was [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► hilarious but I it with the the bad [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► attitude that I went into the fact that [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► I came out of it saying actually yeah [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► that's pretty funny is is kind of [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► impressive and ironically it was Harpo i [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► ended up being most amused by because [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► that tapering is what he does but that [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► is some damn good caper even the bits [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► that that in in a lesser artist hands [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► would be horrible and unwatchable but [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► somehow the genius with which he [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► approaches it and the way throws himself [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► at it it makes it not just tolerable [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► wonderful and so yeah duck soup turned [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► me around made me if not a Marx Brothers [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► fan then at least somebody that doesn't [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► say obnoxious things when people are [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► discussing them at beer gardens [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► god bless you see plots yes Steve's [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► heart grew three times that damn yes [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► which would have been awkward in packets [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► in large part that you should see a [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► doctor [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► two things I i don't think the mirror [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► scene would be nearly as effective if it [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► wasn't completely silent [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► yeah fact that all the sound goes out [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► during that is it is just a complete [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► stroke of genius and secondly favorite [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► line i can see you right now in the [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► kitchen bending over a hot stove but I [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► can't see the stove [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► yeah i guess the best Marga Dumont burn [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► i will leave you i will leave with one [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► with one more left favorite line where [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► they've locked Roger in the bathroom and [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► his party on Thursday [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► hey let me out of here at least 40 [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► magazine yeah yeah I held him in my arms [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► and kissed him out so is murder and [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► that's one thing i really like about [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► duck soup is that there isn't the [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► standard piano solo and harp solo which [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► yes in so many other movies i agree with [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► Monty I think it's not about it [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► there isn't one because the previous [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► movie Groucho had insisted on playing [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► the guitar just to show everybody what [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► it was like to sit through his singing I [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► have to sit there listen to this but you [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► never asked you people from going out [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► into the lobby the cliq blows over [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► that's how I feel that it's my fault for [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► watching all of their movies so often [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► but you see because you I nearly [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► accidentally heard gradual play guitar [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► but I like chicos piano routine but it [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► doesn't need to be in all the movies [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► yeah right does he do the same routine [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► and everything every film very nearly [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► doesn't always do the orange rolling bit [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► but the running his finger along [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► shooting the keys [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► that's his move and say there's only so [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► much you can do with the piano as Victor [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► borja taught us time [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► there certainly is if you've got chicos [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► piano skills and watching him play piano [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► is like watching a drunk guy trying to [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► trust god traffic Road it's like it's [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► this is going to be ugly [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► even if it's successful so my favorite [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► line pop it possibly is since well we're [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► doing that before we move on is possibly [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► after Margaret Dumont says no your [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► excellency I'm so glad you've come and [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► chickas i'm glad i come to you got the [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► plans because you know graduate with [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► such a stylized figure anyway and so [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► then having somebody else feel [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► something's got Groucho I mean yeah okay [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► sure that it's all the same right and [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► then he talks that there's something [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► wonderful about the fact that Groucho's [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► got like these brilliant hilarious [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► witticisms and Harpo has this utter [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► genius at physical comedy and Chico has [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► a really bad temper [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► yup and a hat that's the biggest but [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► they all have a had sort of scratches [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► got horrible hair look like Groucho can [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► get the better of anyone in the world [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► unless it's chico in which case grotto [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► is almost always going to lose the [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► exchange not through any genius on [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► chicos part which is through utter [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► stupidity his own action which with an [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► idiot [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► yeah you're like fighting it isn't my [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► thing doesn't work with this guy [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► why a doc I don't know you got me yeah [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► that's no good [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► I i was my favorite line would be the [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► will you marry me did he leave you any [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► money [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► answer the second question for ya I do i [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► do that all the time but the answer the [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► second question first I that is that [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► it's there's not a week that goes but i [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► like when he says can't you see what I'm [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► trying to tell you i love you but that's [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► me setting something up i'm going to say [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► a similar thing later on at the end of [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► the night at the opera discussion [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► alright have it your money i do we say [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► 11 last thing yeah okay Steve miguel [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► torres haba raba oh yes she wears a very [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► tight metallic dress in lots of [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► inappropriate the scenes I think she [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► looks very uncomfortable throughout most [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► the movie she looks like she eats [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► something very dead that did not agree [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► with her yeah she is clutching her [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► midsection through my [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► the movie I think she's yeah I think [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► she's very uncomfortable in that but but [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► she's I think she looks neat she does [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► she [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► she's lovely she does she's lovely and [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► then she talks and it's unclear why [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► she's there for others and that she [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► looks nice but that's okay [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► he's definitely not 20 knows Margaret [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► Dumont i'll say that no no time for the [TS]

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00:45:59 ◼   ► alright let's move on to the Night at [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► the Opera Night at the Opera was their [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► first movie 4mg [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► um after their after their five picture [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► run with paramount ended and it was [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► basically they were under the [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► supervision of her Irving Thalberg who [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► you may remember from the memorial award [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► that bears his name and hit and and [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► Thornburg's opinion was the problem with [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► the Marx Brothers is they were just [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► going around being agents of chaos and [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► anyone who came within their path ended [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► up on the wrong side of history and that [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► there was no wonder root for in the the [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► Marx Brothers were off-putting [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► particularly to female audiences so he [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► insisted that what they were going to do [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► is more tightly plotted movies rather [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► than just sort of these random bits of [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► of whimsy and chaos and there would be a [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► love interest that they would so the [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► audience would have something root for [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► and I depo not Zeppo because my was done [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► at this point he went off to become an [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► agent and I'm not of chaos know and not [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► of chaos of actors who are like chaos [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► but a better-paid haha education field [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► yeah so so that's what every fall bird [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► what you're saying is everything felt [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► fallbrook said you know what these [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► movies need is Roland subplots and Link [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► the musical numbers the landing musical [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► numbers and basically scenes that have a [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► beginning middle and end is a very much [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► what serving Thalberg introduced to the [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► mix and pretty much all the MGM movies [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► that they did from that point on [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► followed that formula and not at the [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► Opera really reflects that in this in [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► this particular case Groucho is Otis be [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► driftwood and he is helping Margaret [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► Dumont join society now is he always [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► first name initial item in every home so [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► is almost always here and the in yeah [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► pretty much longer to and this is all [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► happening in which will answer me this [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► where is this because then they take a [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► ship so where where are they so there is [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► a bit they're really think they're going [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► somewhere they generally and accorded [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► apparently where we are not watching the [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► ridge [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► animal print of Night at the Opera when [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► we watch it because there used to be in [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► if you if you love the setup for ducks [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► if you love the original setup for Night [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► at the Opera which featured a very [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► lengthy musical number in it and there [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► was actually a caption that said italy [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► where they sing all day and watch [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► operate night which seems vaguely [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► stereotypical but no joda they put in [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► silent movie title card [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► exactly so there's is riveted infamously [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► make any pasta all day [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► yes and then go to the Opera tonight the [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► best thing about this being initially [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► said in Italy is for a change Chico is [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► not the least Italian Italian in the [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► room [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► exactly so yes it's supposedly said in [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► Italy and that the plot that a Groucho [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► settles on to get the market amounted to [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► society is that she is going to [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► basically donate lots of money to the [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► New York opera so that they can bring [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► over a great Italian tenor to perform [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► and there is a is that there's a [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► basically the zippo role is this this a [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► piece of war meet who he's not that warm [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► know haha happy he loves a lady and he [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► also sings and Chico is his good friend [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► and harpos the dresser of the jerky [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► famous Italian tenor that market de [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► menthe is going to fund and they all go [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► over on the cruise ship together 22 to [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► New York and and then chaos ensues the [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► Opera for a tightly plotted movie this [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► has even less plot the duck soup and [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► it's basically a Groucho and Chico and [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► Harpo causing all sorts of chaos among [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► society swells like Margaret Dumont like [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► signalmen who is the head of the New [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► York opera and the and I gotta read mr. [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► Godley mr. haire Gottlieb oh yeah that [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► way and i say this i am like legal label [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► Dudley listeners may not know sick Roman [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► from a hole in the ground but basically [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► if you needed a pompous German between [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► 1930 and then [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► eighteen sixty he is going to show up in [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► your movie because yeah because this [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► voice heard [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► ah alright have mr. driftwood and he [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► generally were a monocle he's under [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► Schultz installing 17 [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► yeah it's probably his biggest role but [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► basically he plays the the the the [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► Teutonic jerk in lots of movies and he [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► and he's great hear any some the the guy [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► who plays the pompous tenor is is less [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► good now i think yeah I felt bad for [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► that guy towards the end of the movie [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► because people were really dumping on [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► him for no reason right and he was [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► historically a journey i guess like [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► there's the scene where he comes in [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► finds out that his woman is with some [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► other guy says oh she she was never his [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► woman remember he was trying to like [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► sort of a workplace harass her [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► ok I'm i'ma go the big i'm going to me [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► and I won't be I'm being worried about [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► your coupler company if you come with me [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► that can find a place for you in the new [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► yorker right by the woman he wishes to [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► what he walks in says huh [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► there's a guy already here well in the [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► boudoir to his company and three's a [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► crowd and that and rages them and they [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► attack him they were hoping for a [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► ménage I think he was very polite there [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► this this is again part of irving [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► thalberg theory is that now the Marx [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► Brothers will just be chaotic and mean [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► around people who themselves bring it to [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► bring it on themselves like like sick [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► Ruhlman and jerky Italian tenor and at [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► the end of the Opera why is everybody [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► booing jerky Italian tender I know the [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► audience liked the other guy a little [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► more but come on he didn't do anything [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► to you for watching a movie that you [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► wanted to get to see this famous guy now [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► you're booing and therefore an apple at [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► him because watermelons are had a season [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► huh [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► the i always am confused by this movie [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► because I and I think that says [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► something about what's memorable to me [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► about it is I always want this movie to [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► be called something like a trip on a [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► boat got a night at the opera it's like [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► oh it's the one with the Opera is that [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► the one with the boat because the boat [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► part is the part I like way around the [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► boat and they have to get on the boat [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► and then there are much longer than the [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► part of the up [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► yeah perfect sets and they already did a [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► movie that's a movie out of boat now I [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► guess so this is about the Opera but [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► it's on a boat [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► ok this is hell yeah you're hit you're [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► hinting at the central problem of Night [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► at the Opera which is actually a movie i [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► enjoy though God not nearly as much as [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► as duck soup but basically night at the [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► opera has a couple of great scenes in it [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► and in between those great scenes is a [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► lot of filler and sometimes that fill [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► her musical numbers that do not feature [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► the Marx Brothers in any way shape or [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► form and some of the time it's it's Marx [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► Brothers bits that that didn't work out [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► very well i also find the pacing of this [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► movie problematic compared to two duck [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► soup because they they worked in pause [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► for laughs and that's a byproduct of as [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► we mentioned they would put they took [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► the show out on the road and timed it to [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► see when people with laughs and you you [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► can see them paws on screen so that they [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► that they don't talk over the laugh [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► lines of whereas in duck soup they're [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► just doing laughing laughing laugh line [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► and and if you if you're laughing and [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► you miss it that's that's great because [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► you're laughing but but I kind of love [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► those moments because frequently what [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► they'll fill that space with is a look [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► at it like a zoom in on Groucho and his [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► eyes are like pointing at the ceiling [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► and sharing in opposite directions and [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► somehow that makes the the whole bit [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► funnier me i don't think i don't think [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► this hold for Laughs either i die i [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► think of it as part of the pacing the [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► timing of the show em for me for me to [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► talk the pacing doesn't work there's a [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► feeling to me actually in in all the [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► Marx Brothers movies where there are [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► there are moments where you feel like [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► these are two people standing at the [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► front of the stage doing there it's like [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► okay now we're now we're here at the [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► front of the stage now we're going to do [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► our lips and especially especially when [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► he and Chico or negotiating the contract [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► yeah oh yeah like Oh curtain comes down [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► there doing something back there [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► these two are just going to open up [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► they're going to their with double-talk [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► and it's funny it's funny it's not bad [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► but you can suddenly any feel so much so [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► stagey so yeah so much like this is the [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► bit where they stand at the front of the [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► stage and talk to the audience and are [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► doing the pause and look and sometimes [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► there's a cut to a closer shot where [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► there's a reaction but it feels [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► very much like you know like like [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► something you'd see on stage and and [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► timing works as a stage timing i suppose [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► seems like that reminds me a lot of [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► abbott and costello movies were they [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► clearly like every 15 minutes just wrote [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► down and then they do this well [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► rehearsed routine [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► mm then they do slowly a turn then they [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► do who's on first they have to do the [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► Susquehanna hat company Costello does [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► math on chalkboard you can't fool me [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► there's no such thing as Santa Claus [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► yeah that's one of the great fits in [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► there the sandy claws bit and the [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► stateroom bit and surrounded stateroom [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► the stateroom bit is is spectacular and [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► after another thing that my [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► four-year-old gloves as i alluded to the [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► top I was the thing I love at the more [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► times i watch the stateroom scene which [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► I've been seeing since I was 18 years [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► old or something like that that the the [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► thing I like now that I think liam is as [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► Groucho waving everybody into the room [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► that at no point is it it's not because [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► it in another comedy will be like oh [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► geez what do I do [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► there are more people coming in how do i [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► get mo don't come in no no they came in [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► we dress like on in at the best fish [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► would you like a manicure [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► no come on it i'm going to leave the [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► room you're going to start better you [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► have to start on the ceiling up come on [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► the part I like is during the ordering [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► food part now Groucho was in the role of [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► the guy who has to just accept every [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► pretend everything's normal [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► right so he's like Oh work hard boiled [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► eggs ok does not plan to hire players it [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► I beg your pardon about this is my trunk [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► this is your truck i don't remember [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► packing your boys won one of the things [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► that I offended a couple years ago about [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► the stateroom seen at that point Buster [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► Keaton was sort of you know there were [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► no more silent movies he'd sort of [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► washed out of making his own talking [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► films and he was working as a gag man at [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► MGM and he helped design the stateroom [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► seen inspired by seen in one of his [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► silent movies [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► yeah yeah he did a lot he would he would [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► sell a lot of the gags that were on his [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► friends previous movies and basically [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► someone to other other shows like the [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► Red Skelton films later on we're [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► essentially remakes of [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► films we'd already made in a night at [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► the opera a lot of stuff that the Harper [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► was doing like with the rigging in the [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► backstage that was also like busting [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► stuff [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► yeah I like I i gotta say that I this is [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► not the most popular opinion I usually [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► prefer like horse feathers and duck soup [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► excuse me I'm sorry I might be really [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► prefer a night at the opera to duck soup [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► chiefly because like I feel as though [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► they're both really really funny [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► the problem is that like we never leave [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► the Marx Brothers world in duck soup [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► I think it's fine I i prefer this [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► version of it in tonight the Opera [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► because they are the only crazy people [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► in the in the real world of of New York [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► much maybe they got more straight-laced [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► people to go up against then they have [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► the previous one so i think that most of [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► their energy lands a lot better in this [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► movie that doesn't mean duck soup i'm [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► actually gonna agree with Andy here this [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► is actually only my second Marx Brothers [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► movie and maybe that's part of it but [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► I've seen duck soup and a senior night [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► at the opera and this one for some [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► reason I think duck soup is probably [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► funnier but as a movie this is this is [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► actually a movie where and said that [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► soup was not now not ever [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► that's a fair criticism yeah duck soup [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► is a pile of sketches and then the [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► second thing again kind of plumbing on [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► what Angie and he said having actual [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► characters that aren't the goofy Marx [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► Brothers to kind of live on their own [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► insane plane or characters that are just [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► total rooms I think kind of anchors the [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► outlandish sense of what they're doing [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► and and their reference feels likes [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► being aimed at realistic targets instead [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► of just strawman and it's it's to me [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► it's a lot funnier for it [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► yeah it's also interesting that this is [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► a movie which other people get the [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► better road marks and start chico or [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► Harpo where the head of the Opera [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► Company once the once he's eat he's got [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► he's got you figured out and he's just [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► looking for an opportunity to get him [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► turfed out and of course he gets the [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► opportunity he gets thrown off the top [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► of the stairs and now he's living in the [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► park next to the other two like I'm [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► something I'm sure sure I'm glad I met [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► you two fellows also it's nice to have [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► someone to kind of root [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► we're here I mean you can't you can't [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► really root for the Marx Brothers [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► because you know nothing can possibly [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► harm them you know that they live on [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► this different plane of existence their [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► cartoon characters they're like they're [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► like a band of Jewish Ferris Bueller's [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► their Jewish fairy godmothers to these [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► this young couple fit anybody else [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► booing them to get back together just [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► because they're in a hope in a hotel [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► room and there's a detective looking for [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► them it's not really worried they're [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► just going to rearrange furniture while [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► running away [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► yeah right so I mean if you if you if [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► you care enough about alan jones and [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► kitty Carlisle and i'm not saying [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► everybody will but if you care enough [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► about them to to to be too invested and [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► how things turn out for them then [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► how things turn out for them then [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► and yeah i mean it's it's nice to see [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► the Marx Brothers sort of training their [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► chaos on on somebody that you want to [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► see lose whereas everybody that they [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► bang on in in duck soup is just there to [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► be banged up so I agree with everything [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► you said just there except for one thing [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► which is I don't care about these other [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► characters they're really boring the [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► musical numbers that therein are very [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► interesting and that's why although I [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► mean this is what I'm saying [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► duck soup is arguably if you had [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► inserted those things you could get you [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► could inflate it up to 90 minutes and it [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► had to be the length of a night at the [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► opera I I quite honestly would rather go [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► the other way and deflate Night at the [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► Opera to have to be less of a movie and [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► more that was funny because that stuff [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► doesn't it doesn't work for me I i do [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► dream of the perfect Marx Brothers movie [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► that has a really good interesting plot [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► with interesting characters and maybe [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► even songs that I care about but and [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► perhaps it's just because i'm not you [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► know perhaps Irving Thalberg knew very [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► well what audiences in 1935 wanted to [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► see but it now from this vantage point I [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► look back and it's like I'm really only [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► there for the jokes and yeah but not the [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► rapids a day back in the day [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► movies like this and Laurel and Hardy [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► when they would be edited down for you [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► know let's fit in as many commercials as [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► we can [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► they would focus on the plots because [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► like oh well there's the plot we need to [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► take this defect because it has nothing [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► to do with anything and that was before [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► TV stations figured out that await your [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► watching it for Laurel and Hardy and the [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► Marx Brothers which you know why watch [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► Night at the Opera unless you're a kitty [TS]