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230: World-Class Weirdo

 

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00:00:25   the incomparable number 230 January 2015 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/25">TS</a>]

00:00:33   welcome back everybody the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/33">TS</a>]

00:00:37   podcast host Jason still we I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   convening a very large edition of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/39">TS</a>]

00:00:42   comic book club to talk about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/42">TS</a>]

00:00:44   comic-book chosen by the first person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/44">TS</a>]

00:00:47   i'm going to introduce to Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   Schmeisser Italy charter member of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51   comic book club hello hi it's nice to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53   here and and you chose promethea my and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/53">TS</a>]

00:00:57   alan moore available where comics are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/57">TS</a>]

00:01:01   sold on the internet and elsewhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03   and we are going to be talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   first couple of trades so if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07   not read any of it and you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   be spoiled you should go read the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/69">TS</a>]

00:01:10   couple trades and then come back and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/70">TS</a>]

00:01:13   a welcome back thanks reading those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   trade see what i did there anyway the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/75">TS</a>]

00:01:16   other members of our comic book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/76">TS</a>]

00:01:18   tonight Tony sindelar hi Tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20   hello nerds I don't have anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/80">TS</a>]

00:01:23   quickly to say about committee except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/83">TS</a>]

00:01:24   that i read it i'm here to talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   well good i do the homework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   hello nerds I did the homework mont [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/88">TS</a>]

00:01:31   actually also here hi Monty hello that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/91">TS</a>]

00:01:34   this is our world now reading comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/94">TS</a>]

00:01:37   books his homework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/97">TS</a>]

00:01:38   yes the Nerds one and that they have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/98">TS</a>]

00:01:40   assignment for you sleep with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42   weeping gorilla says and in episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44   we've been girl I gotta read comic books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/104">TS</a>]

00:01:47   homework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/107">TS</a>]

00:01:49   yes your streams down the weakened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51   condition there's one and this is our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/111">TS</a>]

00:01:52   world now Erica and sign is also out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/112">TS</a>]

00:01:55   there hello hello yes i have learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/115">TS</a>]

00:01:58   that reading comic books can be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   homework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/120">TS</a>]

00:02:00   ah very nice yeah and since that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/120">TS</a>]

00:02:03   foreshadowing and chips others is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/123">TS</a>]

00:02:06   out there hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/126">TS</a>]

00:02:07   it's an honor to be here to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/127">TS</a>]

00:02:08   one of the most important comic creators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11   ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/131">TS</a>]

00:02:11   and I'm talking of course about letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13   Todd klein yes he said that's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/133">TS</a>]

00:02:17   no i'm serious i love his work yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   was making notes about how good his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   lettering was in the Attic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   oh my God he's already promised look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/143">TS</a>]

00:02:24   Monty don't do that it was digital i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27   writing on my screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/147">TS</a>]

00:02:28   okay well don't write on your screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/148">TS</a>]

00:02:31   monitor that's terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/151">TS</a>]

00:02:32   alright Lisa why did you pick promethea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34   and have us read it and I'm not judging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/154">TS</a>]

00:02:37   here well maybe a little bit of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   don't use yeah I had a few reasons for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/159">TS</a>]

00:02:42   picking it up one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/162">TS</a>]

00:02:43   it's relatively old so it's easy to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45   used copies for cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/165">TS</a>]

00:02:47   oh yeah maybe 9 and 15 exactly one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   goals for having one of the things I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/169">TS</a>]

00:02:52   trying to do with or I'd like us to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   with kaka club this year is introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/174">TS</a>]

00:02:58   comics to people who really don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/178">TS</a>]

00:03:00   time everyone stay to pop into a shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/180">TS</a>]

00:03:02   and read and so I thought well if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04   an older home me and if its older comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   you can get used which means that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/186">TS</a>]

00:03:08   not a big financial strain either and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/188">TS</a>]

00:03:09   that was another reason I'm the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/189">TS</a>]

00:03:12   reason I chose promethea is the book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14   completely done so we could if we wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/194">TS</a>]

00:03:17   to assess it as a whole body of work we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/197">TS</a>]

00:03:21   can talk about this comic knowing full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/201">TS</a>]

00:03:24   well that Alan Moore is not going to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/204">TS</a>]

00:03:25   on like another five issues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/205">TS</a>]

00:03:26   completely torpedo everything we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   about it right so it's a finite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   closed-loop it's not like when you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/210">TS</a>]

00:03:31   about a TV series and the Creator hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33   the reset button I mean this is done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/213">TS</a>]

00:03:34   it's close it's a finite thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/214">TS</a>]

00:03:35   the third reason I chose it is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38   it's a deconstruction of the superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/218">TS</a>]

00:03:42   genre and it's also equals in a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/222">TS</a>]

00:03:45   weird religious direction and i was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47   fascinated by i was fascinated by it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/227">TS</a>]

00:03:50   the fact that he said you know I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52   to do I'm going to take the Wonder Woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/232">TS</a>]

00:03:53   myth and i'm going to mix it up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   whole bunch of mystical stuff and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   what comes out the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/237">TS</a>]

00:03:58   the fourth reason I chose it was because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/238">TS</a>]

00:04:01   it is the most optimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/241">TS</a>]

00:04:02   post-apocalyptic work I've ever run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04   across and given the amount of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   post-apocalyptic dystopian fiction we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   talked about here I thought to be kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10   of refreshing to to approach something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/250">TS</a>]

00:04:11   that's all trial on the end of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   her ray and finally the fifth reason is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16   to me it's the most Alan more thing he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/256">TS</a>]

00:04:19   ever written it is it is if if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22   to take a look at his body of work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/264">TS</a>]

00:04:24   a pic something that distills the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   essence of our more down to one book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   this would be the book to do it there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/268">TS</a>]

00:04:29   just enters layer upon layer upon layer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   and so and finally as I was rereading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/271">TS</a>]

00:04:34   the the reason that bubble for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36   subconscious is this book is now old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39   number we can use it as kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/279">TS</a>]

00:04:40   historical artifact of the nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/280">TS</a>]

00:04:43   because i'm pretty sure that's when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/283">TS</a>]

00:04:44   started thinking about it and writing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   and it's fun to see this as an artifact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48   of where comics were going in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   nineties and works where societal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   attitudes were two and then to compare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   them to what we're doing today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/294">TS</a>]

00:04:55   so those are all my reasons alright fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/295">TS</a>]

00:04:58   enough i I am so i started the one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/298">TS</a>]

00:05:02   the reasons I I said let's absolutely do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/302">TS</a>]

00:05:05   this i mean one is I've read a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   alan moore and not just the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/307">TS</a>]

00:05:08   watchman and be for vendetta and from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/308">TS</a>]

00:05:12   hell and swamp thing but also his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/312">TS</a>]

00:05:15   latter-day comic stuff like Tom strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/315">TS</a>]

00:05:20   and top 10 on and on on one level I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/320">TS</a>]

00:05:23   think you're right that it is very alan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/323">TS</a>]

00:05:26   moore E&I in all ways including you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29   the all the great ways and also all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31   terrible ways yes um I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   it's all in there any other reason i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35   fascinated by this is because i was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/335">TS</a>]

00:05:38   was thinking about wonder woman and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/338">TS</a>]

00:05:41   know with a lot of talk about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   there would be a Wonder Woman movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   after various failed TV series which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   they've announced they are going to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/347">TS</a>]

00:05:49   Wonder Woman movie now and um also I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/349">TS</a>]

00:05:52   went and saw a play called lasso of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   truth which is actually about the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   who invented wonder woman which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   fascinating story in unto itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/360">TS</a>]

00:06:03   I have you read the Jill Lepore article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05   which is exempted from her longer booked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/365">TS</a>]

00:06:06   on the origins of wonder woman I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   haven't although I feel like I since I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   saw an entire play that it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/370">TS</a>]

00:06:13   none of its new but like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/373">TS</a>]

00:06:14   polygamous relationship and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   name undertones and his pretty strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   feminist feelings and all of that yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/378">TS</a>]

00:06:19   and in fact he is the creator of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21   love the love the light detectors to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23   man who invented Wonder Woman's lasso of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   truth also invented the actual last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28   three the white detector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   I'm in the middle of that book and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   great I thought I knew everything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/392">TS</a>]

00:06:33   him but he's a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35   we're do there's lots more yeah so I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/395">TS</a>]

00:06:39   that fascinates me that promethea is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   this you know Alan Moore post modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   take on Wonder Woman as well which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/403">TS</a>]

00:06:46   this is a mythological figure that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   sort of like superimposed on top of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   regular girl and creates this creates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/410">TS</a>]

00:06:55   this kind of superhero Malcolm and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   that was it looks like a pretty rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   stew to jump into and and and you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/419">TS</a>]

00:07:02   supposed to jump into a stew but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   what i did i jumped into it was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/424">TS</a>]

00:07:05   hot tub full of stew emperor has jumped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07   right in any way and I found it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/427">TS</a>]

00:07:10   fascinating i don't know where we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/430">TS</a>]

00:07:11   from here what with elisa would you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   to throw something out because like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15   said I feel like I feel like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/435">TS</a>]

00:07:16   your baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/436">TS</a>]

00:07:17   so the first question I wanted to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19   up to the crowd at large was exactly how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/439">TS</a>]

00:07:23   much do you think more knew about Wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   Woman's history and the Creator because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27   one of the themes that I notice pops up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/447">TS</a>]

00:07:30   through the course of the first two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31   trades and what I'm going to say I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34   like we should respect we should try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   focus the discussion on the first two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/456">TS</a>]

00:07:37   trades because that's what almost always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   have read and can contribute to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/459">TS</a>]

00:07:42   what's the problem what seems to pop up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   over and over again is the idea of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/464">TS</a>]

00:07:47   crater as somebody who has an innate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/467">TS</a>]

00:07:50   streak of of iconoclasm and that and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/470">TS</a>]

00:07:54   comes back that over and over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/474">TS</a>]

00:07:55   where the very nature of being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   creative person sets you apart from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   mainstream and it's also something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   while it allows you to contribute to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03   world and ultimately damages you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   as they point out in the comic books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   promethium for those are you catching a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/487">TS</a>]

00:08:10   Promethean is is basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   ratification imagination she's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   living avatar of imagination she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   original little girl to God's pulled her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/496">TS</a>]

00:08:19   into the material which is the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   imagination is so basically she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   living avatar when people imagine her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/503">TS</a>]

00:08:24   she can possess them or they can become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   her living avatar and earth and over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   course the first two books you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/508">TS</a>]

00:08:29   introduced to a series of artists or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/509">TS</a>]

00:08:32   artist muses who had imagined and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/512">TS</a>]

00:08:35   and loved and become invested promethea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/515">TS</a>]

00:08:36   and so they came for me for themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/516">TS</a>]

00:08:38   and as one of the points out every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   single one of them died as a result of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/520">TS</a>]

00:08:41   engaging in the Smith creating this myth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/521">TS</a>]

00:08:44   and becoming this myth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   so what I wonder about is is do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/526">TS</a>]

00:08:48   think alan moore new a whole lot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   Wonder Woman or is this just a general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   larger statement on creativity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   um yes he'll check on that Chicago is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/534">TS</a>]

00:09:01   had to be both I mean I'll alan moore is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/541">TS</a>]

00:09:04   is a genius about the comics field and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   is is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   he's an artistic formalist who really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/548">TS</a>]

00:09:11   digs in deep into comics and tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14   make this dries to make them do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/554">TS</a>]

00:09:18   that they've never done before but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/558">TS</a>]

00:09:19   all about the art form itself so he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/559">TS</a>]

00:09:23   to know how about the history and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   and all that but at the same time at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/565">TS</a>]

00:09:29   same time it it turns into such as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   meditation on imagination itself that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/571">TS</a>]

00:09:34   I'm reading this thing and all i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   hear in the background as a magician [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/576">TS</a>]

00:09:37   Doug Henning in the background talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   about in the mountain a mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   oh that's worth of imagination everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/581">TS</a>]

00:09:44   here maybe you are worlds avatar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   Prometheus win the war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/586">TS</a>]

00:09:47   ok actually let me go around one table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50   um who is your favorite permuting out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   out of the ones that we get introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/592">TS</a>]

00:09:53   to everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   did everybody find one they identified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/595">TS</a>]

00:09:56   with her is there one that you liked or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   disliked or really related to like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/598">TS</a>]

00:10:01   are your emotional responses to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/601">TS</a>]

00:10:02   different Prometheus and I mean I like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   want to start by saying I like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   that there is in the in the you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/606">TS</a>]

00:10:09   introduced to promethea through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12   current holder of of promethea mhm who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/612">TS</a>]

00:10:17   is aging and a band and Barbara yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/617">TS</a>]

00:10:22   she's not really up to it anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/622">TS</a>]

00:10:23   yeah it and that's interesting and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25   traditional comical care right like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/625">TS</a>]

00:10:28   Gold Eagle the but yet Golden Age hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30   is about to retire but the Silver Age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   hero is going to step in and become the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   new promethea right but what I love is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/634">TS</a>]

00:10:37   that then when / media visits the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40   land of imagination she finds everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/640">TS</a>]

00:10:43   who's ever been promethea basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   hanging out by a pool and talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/645">TS</a>]

00:10:48   each other and there's like essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   Greek chorus of Prometheus and I i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/650">TS</a>]

00:10:53   that as a concept to the fact that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   the whole Prometheus squad is there as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/655">TS</a>]

00:10:58   promethea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/658">TS</a>]

00:10:59   to comment on what's going on and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/659">TS</a>]

00:11:02   help her out i think that that takes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/662">TS</a>]

00:11:05   to a whole other level from the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   you just meet your you know the mentor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   the originator know you mean everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   was at the job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/671">TS</a>]

00:11:12   yeah the greatest thing yeah yeah so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   thought that was I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/674">TS</a>]

00:11:15   really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/675">TS</a>]

00:11:16   I'm my favorite promethea is Margie a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/676">TS</a>]

00:11:20   little help hardly be there between to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/680">TS</a>]

00:11:21   work and I get defensive over and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   just because i love Little Nemo in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   Slumberland so i'm totally in for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/685">TS</a>]

00:11:28   references or in this case out right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30   back off some of the concept I honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   had trouble remembering who is who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   trouble keeping them keeping them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/694">TS</a>]

00:11:37   separate in my mind I was constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39   having to go back and be like okay which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/699">TS</a>]

00:11:40   one is this and what's their deal so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43   wouldn't say I had a favorite because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/703">TS</a>]

00:11:44   struggled so much to remember who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46   who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/706">TS</a>]

00:11:46   yeah i'll be boring and say that sophie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/706">TS</a>]

00:11:49   was my favorite but one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   that I noticed was that their voices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/711">TS</a>]

00:11:54   they they occasionally become very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/714">TS</a>]

00:11:59   specific and distinct and otherwise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/719">TS</a>]

00:12:02   at other times they talk like each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   and I don't know how I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/724">TS</a>]

00:12:08   purposeful that was but it also made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/728">TS</a>]

00:12:11   difficult for me to tell them apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/731">TS</a>]

00:12:12   sometimes you have to really pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/732">TS</a>]

00:12:15   attention to the costuming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   everything else and I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   they're supposed to be different aspects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   of the same character but luckily for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/741">TS</a>]

00:12:24   Margie not only doesn't talk like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/744">TS</a>]

00:12:25   everyone else she had better anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   talk fine being a genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   yes she's not even really a Prometheus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/749">TS</a>]

00:12:30   she just sort of she's just heard this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32   annoying tag along the cartoon character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34   or in a comic book that makes some sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/754">TS</a>]

00:12:39   yeah i guess if I had if I had to pick a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   favorite it would be Sophie bangs mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43   simply because i felt like i was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/763">TS</a>]

00:12:46   on the journey with her she had no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48   what was going on at the beginning in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/768">TS</a>]

00:12:49   and I had no idea what was going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51   either so therefore she was my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53   identification character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   well I mean yeah I mean that that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   night and like I really like i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58   Barbara and the fact that she's dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   with the fact that she's passing this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   the end of her life essential and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/782">TS</a>]

00:13:03   passing this torch to Sophie and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/783">TS</a>]

00:13:06   you know inevitably she's gonna pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   into the the realm of imagination i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/788">TS</a>]

00:13:11   throw a shout out to Bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/791">TS</a>]

00:13:12   because I i think the idea that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/792">TS</a>]

00:13:15   closeted gay male artist who drew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/795">TS</a>]

00:13:20   promethea and sort of uh I idolized her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/800">TS</a>]

00:13:24   and then that plotline me that he takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/804">TS</a>]

00:13:28   where he becomes promethea and falls in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   love with a man who doesn't realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/810">TS</a>]

00:13:31   this is a man who's turned into a woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/811">TS</a>]

00:13:34   and ends up getting killed as a result I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/814">TS</a>]

00:13:37   I thought that was poignant and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/817">TS</a>]

00:13:40   quite an interesting like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   gonna have this wall of Prometheus to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   have that be be one of the twist i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   thought was was really brilliant and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/825">TS</a>]

00:13:48   could also identify which promethea was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/828">TS</a>]

00:13:51   Bill so how do i do that that one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   delicate the planet is gonna love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   little rings around the legs yeah or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58   know what I think of what i thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   interesting when I went back through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/840">TS</a>]

00:14:03   looked at him is one of the reasons i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/843">TS</a>]

00:14:04   love Barbara is because I feel like over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   the course the book you're also getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   a look at the it isn't in sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/848">TS</a>]

00:14:11   subtle meditation on the impact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13   created a creative life has on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   relationship and the feedback loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   between the creator of their partner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   and how much it might be a joint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   endeavor and how much of it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/861">TS</a>]

00:14:22   because remember Barbara says well he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   used he used me as his model for his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   imagination for promethea I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   his imagination which is why I basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   look like myself and help in the costume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   right but she's even soup and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/872">TS</a>]

00:14:34   fascinating she becomes Promethean not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/874">TS</a>]

00:14:35   not the writer but but the music his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/875">TS</a>]

00:14:39   wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/879">TS</a>]

00:14:39   yeah yeah she's the model and um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/879">TS</a>]

00:14:42   realize we're restricting this to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   first two books but in the third there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   actually a really lovely sequence where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   you do get to see more about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   relationship and it is very end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/890">TS</a>]

00:14:54   really it it makes me wonder if alan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/894">TS</a>]

00:14:57   moore was was saying something about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   know this is this is the reality of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/899">TS</a>]

00:15:02   it's like to be the person who's in love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/902">TS</a>]

00:15:03   with the creative force this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/903">TS</a>]

00:15:04   reality of what it's like to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/904">TS</a>]

00:15:05   creative person who has the need to love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/905">TS</a>]

00:15:08   and connect with somebody and pull them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/908">TS</a>]

00:15:09   into their endeavor even if they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/909">TS</a>]

00:15:10   fully understand it so so i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/910">TS</a>]

00:15:13   Barbara for that reason I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   Barbara and Bill i do want to interject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   though that one of the things that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   me a little uncomfortable reading this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/919">TS</a>]

00:15:20   book is that they're all these feminist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/920">TS</a>]

00:15:23   statements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25   we're in a time right now with gamer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/925">TS</a>]

00:15:28   date and everything else going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/928">TS</a>]

00:15:29   I kept in the back of my head I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/929">TS</a>]

00:15:32   know Alan Moore very well as far as is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/932">TS</a>]

00:15:35   and personal life and life is outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/935">TS</a>]

00:15:38   comics and things like that but i felt a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   little bit like I was being mansplain 2m [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   that the guy telling the story has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/943">TS</a>]

00:15:47   Barbara looking older and overweight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/947">TS</a>]

00:15:50   unattractive bill has it still has his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/950">TS</a>]

00:15:55   gender issues becomes a her and I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/955">TS</a>]

00:15:59   would have felt more comfortable if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   hadn't been alan moore writing this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03   if this had been woman writing it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   it was funny as I actually felt almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   the opposite because when you get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   whole tantric sex scene no the cup and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   the wand and the cup in the wand and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/971">TS</a>]

00:16:12   like I got really really know who's back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/972">TS</a>]

00:16:17   to that I could hear and that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   roll my eyes I say hello to taro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   it's all and you look at the city on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   cards and you notice the harlot at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   point and i went back and took a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28   and I thought well on the one hand he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/988">TS</a>]

00:16:29   got this whole Prometheus a woman and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/989">TS</a>]

00:16:32   she's imagination but on the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/992">TS</a>]

00:16:33   he's got some pretty gender determinist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   ideas going on and so I was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   uncomfortable with the book on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/998">TS</a>]

00:16:39   level because I feel like he starts off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   strong by pointing out that imagination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44   should in theory make general fluid in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46   construct but then it turns into but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   know the laws of the universe are that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50   man and woman in and ask really thus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:53   were going with it i'll just i'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55   briefly point out that the year after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   promethea ended is the year lost girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:00   finally came out so well anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:06   here comes to reading loss girls i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   it i own it you on it yeah for sudo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:12   artistic ok where he he only reads it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:18   for the article know it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:19   yeah well it's actually one of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   angry and emotionally disturbing of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24   work and i'm not i'm not being arch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   about that it was some it'sit's general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:29   generally speaking there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31   anger on that and there's a sequence in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   the first two books again where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:34   like those two demons for hire to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   after Sophie early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:37   and they they call the cab driver what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:41   he's doing to his granddaughter and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:42   handgun and I was like okay I've this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:45   clearly a theme that he's working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:47   because it comes up again and again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   damage that people can do two children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:50   that that's like a huge thread that runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:51   your loss girls and I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53   interesting that he puts it out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   and then he gives the reader this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   some almost unearned sense of catharsis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1077">TS</a>]

00:18:00   with oh don't worry bad people will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:03   get their comeuppance because there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:04   forces in the University give it to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:05   so that was something that stuck with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:08   it it didn't the first time I read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10   series but you know the first of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:11   series I had lost girls huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   so there you go oh well i tried to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:16   come back i tried to do some background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   because I'm like Shirley other comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:19   sites have tackled this let's see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:20   anybody's done this and I kept burning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:23   cross these essays forever like I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:24   don't know what to say and this made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:27   think of the biggest question I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:28   ask you guys which is do you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:31   this book might be perhaps a little too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33   complex with too many layers sisters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:36   systems in meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:37   yeah or or or you know are we struggling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:41   because we may be used to reading really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:42   complex pros novels but when you get so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:46   many different levels of narrative like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:47   you having a graphic novel where is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   of this visual imagery on top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:50   text and you have to negotiate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   relationship between them to do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   think maybe we're getting like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:55   basically amounts to four times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:56   complex novel is this the part where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   say yes again yes this time this time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:02   was reading it on my computer so i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   using guided view from panel to panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:07   I've lifted the guided view which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   never used to say let's see what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   person who did guided view things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13   should look at the end to this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:14   comic that breaks comiXology it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:17   because so many so much of the design is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   here's the whole page isn't that amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   and guess what are these panels go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   is overdoing it was like here's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   panels now let's zoom out now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   gonna go back in now come back out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   no man as I was I was looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:32   sequence where Sophie is is busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:35   BIP BIP bopping through it's the it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:39   the last issue in trade paperback number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:42   two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:42   yes chapter 6i have Magnus's about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:45   issue the stupid scrabble tiles at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47   bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:48   pentagram and oh there's a stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   running joke at the bottom and the joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:51   is done by man in different stages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   development oh look there's a history of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54   Western civilization of the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   yeah then on top of that you have macro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:59   and micro who are busy giving you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   bad hackneyed Rhymes and there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   it's the Socratic dialogues and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   thought to myself only you can only do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:08   some comics and then another party was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   like I was born I always wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:15   remove the two snakes in the caduceus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   were and what their personalities were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   like no I never wanted to know that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   I found out I need to take a sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:24   break i want to tell you about loot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:25   crate to Crate is a monthly subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   box service for epic geek and gamer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:30   items and pop-culture gear for less than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   twenty dollars a month you get six to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   eight items in a box in a crate the loot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:37   crate includes licensed gear apparel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   collectibles unique one-of-a-kind items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41   a whole lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   I just got my first loot crate over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46   holidays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:46   it was really cool my kids liked it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:49   liked it we have distributed equitably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   the items in the box and even the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:54   was cool looks like a little bat cave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   inside the box it was really awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   little magazine that goes with it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   tells you about the stuff that's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01   it's a really cool thing you should try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:03   so in 2015 they wanted the first created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:06   the year to celebrate geeky gaming items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08   of the past so they're rewinding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:11   giving Star Wars and Voltron stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   putting those in the box along with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   epic geek apparel on a lot more if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   are hearing this before January [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:20   nineteenth at nine p.m. pacific time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   can subscribe and get the January box by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:25   going to loot crate calm / Snell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:28   enter code smell to save ten percent off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   any new subscription to loot crate if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32   you're hearing this after january [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:33   nineteen then the star wars the Voltron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   the epic geek apparel you're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:38   to get that but you know what you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   you can still go to loot crate calm / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41   smell and sign up with february's create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:44   what's going to be in February's great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:45   don't know yet although that's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   the beauties of loot crate is you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   really know what you're gonna get even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:50   if they give you hints the the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   the box is a joy there like a pal who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:55   knows the stuff that you love and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   to surprise you with awesome stuff every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:00   month they shipped to nine different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:01   countries there's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02   nation on the loot crate site and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   not just a subscription services a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   community of fans that are sharing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   stuff that's in their crates with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   other and showing off what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:11   with it it's a lot of fun so if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:14   sounds cool if having cool geeky stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   appeals to you like it appeals to me go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18   to loot crate calm / smell and a code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:21   smells to save ten percent off any new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:22   subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:23   Thank You lootcrate for the cool box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   again every month and for sponsoring me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   uncomfortable if you read the script for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:30   from hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:31   only every panel has a thousand words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:35   describing everything that's in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   explaining all the research he did which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:38   is why I think you know everything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   William Moulton Marston yeah but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   like this was alan moore deciding i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:46   just going to put in everything I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:47   of ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   yes my entire worldview yeah which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   why I think this is like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:52   quintessentially mauryan thing ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   because it's him doing all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   fancy intellectual backflips because one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:59   of things i do love about legal shorter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   gentleman for example is how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03   basically it's basically highfalutin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:04   fanfic oh sure it's gotten less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:07   highfalutin nothing yet has i got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   the one volume or like oh so so so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:12   we have been harvested subject these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:13   days that's about where i was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   I'll find some other things treat it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:18   obvious like for a while he really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20   these characters and love these stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:21   and he loved the idea of trying to fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22   them together in a hole macro narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   right and so here he's kind of doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:27   same thing where author and Hermes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   all thrown floss and i'll throw in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:30   history of the Western world and i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   throw in the Kabbalah and then i'll do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   whole lot of commentary on how awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   Generation X is and i'll send up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   super and after a while you're like dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   we get it dialed back man I kind of look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:43   at it as sort of have to step back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:46   look at it it's just a work of art and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   usually anytime i described something as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   a work of art it means it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   something that I really appreciate it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54   an emotional level it's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56   look at it and say that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   intellectually appreciate it took an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:00   awful lot of work and I appreciate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02   that there are this many intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   backflips that went into it i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:07   actually really excited after eating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:08   first trade because I i thought at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:11   that maybe it was going to be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:12   bit more of a straightforward narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:13   that you had and i love the idea of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:16   land of imagination reminded me of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   fantasia from the neverending story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:21   the more we got into the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   Kabbalah on the Tarot and the mysticism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25   I mean I've read an awful lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   about that sort of thing but i prefer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   read about that in a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   straightforward you know kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   this just made me want to go back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:34   reread breaking open the head by Daniel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   Pinchbeck which is a a real-world story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:39   of self-discovery as opposed to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   very artsy fartsy version thereof so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:44   just felt like I was it was preaching to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:45   the choir and I don't like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47   preached to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:48   and I really don't like being preached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:49   you when I have to read like six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   different types of things are going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   the same page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54   some of it in poem haha yeah although I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:57   i liked it more than the Invisibles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1497">TS</a>]

00:25:00   which is grant morrison kind of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:01   the same thing as yeah okay you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:04   what i'm talking about really sighs you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:08   know they're kind of in a similar place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:09   in my head where you know very smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:13   people who I respected strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:14   encouraged me to read them and I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   lot further in prometheus than i did in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   the Invisibles but like yeah i got i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   have tried one of the collection of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   Invisibles that I have never finished it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   and I'm not I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   you never will I think you can launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   the podcast called Lisa grumbles about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   the Invisibles for 45 minutes and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   could probably fill it up for like six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:33   weeks some people who have recommended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35   some other very good comics to be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   like the Invisibles but like yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   could not get into it this book reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   me of another grant morrison book an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:44   earlier one tho animal man oh man just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:47   oh that's oh wow well tied into the loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:52   what was that the Lost Children which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:53   was that big old vertical multi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:54   crossover that had part of Sandman and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:58   it had animal man and had Doom Patrol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01   and know and like 10 feet from the and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:05   swamp thing to think it's tied into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07   somehow and and whatsherface the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   girl from Animal Man and then I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   back and read grant grant morrison's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:12   animal ran around and was like I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:15   take enough drugs to read this on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:16   regular basis haha but a lot of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:19   stuff is going on here that that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:22   series that starts out as a commentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:26   on superheroes and ends as a commentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:30   on comic books and plays a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   same tricks I thought better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:35   promethea did because Prometheus a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   polemic and this gets into the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:40   fourth and fifth trade paperbacks mommy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:43   there's a big difference between books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   to one and two and what comes after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   it's it's huge it's like it it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:51   lot more to sit it's time to preach yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   by like by the time you to book five you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55   gotta be in there right and actually i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   have to say without without being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58   spoilery the very last issue is is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:02   voice sort of changes in its it's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   more straightforward and it's a lot less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:05   you know I don't know if it's a lot less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:08   silly i guess i thought so honestly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   think my favorite one was the very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12   last one where it's more just a case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:14   of el amor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:15   he just kind of strips away some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   artifice in between himself and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   the reader it is basically more just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   talking straight at you rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   putting it in layer after layer of gauzy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:26   weirdness I feel like he kind of insist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   on doing that at some point it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   works that's usually where i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:31   exasperated see i'd rather have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34   than all the rest of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   I want to ask you something and didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:37   occur to me until I didn't reread a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   Promethean and then went back and looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40   at some of his earlier works the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:43   friendship between stacia and Sophie I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:46   wanted to see what you guys thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48   about that friendship how it reads to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   you what you think they see in each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   other and why so much attention is paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   to it i hope i never have a friendship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   like that I just I felt that way that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   read it was that they were both such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   damaged people who did not really know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   how to get along and society that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:03   couldn't do any better than each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   and I kept hoping that maybe they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07   just go ahead on separate ways and find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:08   some real friends and yeah you guys have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   read more than me but i have to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   was kind of the stuff that I struggled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   with the most I mean everything else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:15   so kind of is all this kind of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   fantastic stuff and the stuff between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:20   them like just didn't know i didn't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:23   that writing is good and it didn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:24   particularly believable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   I guess yeah because the only the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   most charitable explanation I can come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   up with is maybe station is supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   be more steak on the vacuity or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   shallowness of Generation X because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36   there's a lot of stuff in here that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:37   makes me think that he tends that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39   really hated the nineties like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:43   because a lot of the aesthetic I i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   looking at the trends that station rocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   and a lot of it is is very 1990s club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:50   kid looking you know what the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   beehives and the hair colors and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:53   like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:54   weeping gorilla is basically that if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:58   can google is like the most 1990s thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   i can think of you know and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   when he's got that one trackers like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:03   could if i could only listen to just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   more Radiohead track and I was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   there we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:07   but but i was wondering if stations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:11   supposed to be his his indictment of oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   this is the chat shallow techno obsessed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   non-critical consumerist generation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:18   their big into pop culture nostalgia and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21   so they're incapable genuine creativity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   because he has such act of hostility for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   that character i think that especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   the club she's at with the terrible rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30   lyrics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:31   oh yes laughing all over the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:32   that's now are lyrics are like Alan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:35   knock it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   yeah yeah I'm i wanted to i want to back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:40   up to talk about the edit that issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   number 12 again only because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   this is we touched on it briefly but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:47   I kinda want to lower the boom on it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   is this I I I like Erica I appreciated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:54   the effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   good job good effort that went into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   and get it the same time I kind of hated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:01   yeah and so it reminded me of like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:07   art installation where they might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   liked some paintings on the walls and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12   some sculpture and you think oh it's art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   but there's also like a boom box playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   beat poetry on one side and another boom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:20   box playing different beat poetry on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   other side so it's a cacophony and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   don't understand it because there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26   too much going on you're completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:27   overwhelmed and then somebody is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:30   yelling footnotes at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   that is what that is and it's the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34   issues like that and it is alan moore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:37   telling us how much research is done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:40   or what his personal metaphysical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:43   beliefs about the universe and or tarot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:46   cards are and it is it is so far off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:52   rails that it's it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   breathtaking to watch somebody with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   level of talent when he brings up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:57   Harpo Marx tarot cards are all really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   wait what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:00   dude if you were on some like amanita [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03   muscaria mushrooms you would be in linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   understanding everything to a degree of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   clearly an issue 12 and it blew my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:10   man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:11   what I feel like this I actually feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:15   like this book is a huge artifact of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:16   nineteen nineties like intellectually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   and psychically and pop-culture speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   one of the reasons i actually dropped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   out after my Master's is I was in grad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:25   school at the time when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:26   deconstructionism was huge and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:30   was time we break down the signifiers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   meaning and I should we should we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   put know by the way deconstructionism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35   met back then did not mean taking all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:38   the different ingredients of a sandwich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:39   and putting separately on a plate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   has never because you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43   shocked terrible and it was a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:46   holiness zoo and you need to challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   the the borders that have been ratified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   by the Academy blogger and I was like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:53   can't really spend another four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   pretending that I respect this so i left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:58   but there's 12 promethea for you that an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01   issue 12 a Promethean was like honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   it was like the performance art I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05   class in the class that actually it got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   me thinking I need to get the heck out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:08   of school was one where are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:11   professor had challenged us to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:12   creative interpretation of the history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   of communications technology i am Morse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:18   code that's right Joey I am a radio way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:21   like there's this one guy who came in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24   Latin like put himself in a foil box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   began reciting beat poetry years there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:29   were people who liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:30   interpretive dances to hypertext and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   jenny holz her stuff and I was like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:35   I was like I can't even I just wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   regular paper deconstructing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:38   creation myths and wired magazine for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   two years and an issue 12 was basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:44   like sitting through that class all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46   again and you know what I looked at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   scrabble tiles and was like oh my God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   he's done nothing but a mammogram is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:51   this is this is I sort of like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   immigrant anagrams are what you do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   fifth grade you're like whoa if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:56   rearrange letters they need different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   things are the same set now my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:01   yeah it's kind of it's kind of a parlor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   trick I think it's I think it's a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05   because I again there's a lot of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:08   great deep interesting material here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:12   it's like I mean at we say this so often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   on this show in fact it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   there's nobody there because he's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18   more right there's nobody there to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:19   Alan too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   dial it back on and there are plenty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   people out there who are saying you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   Alan maurya genius one of working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:28   Virginia's they feel smarter and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:29   read in this is a work of genius in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   sense that he's kind of a genius and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   did this work that is totally bizarre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   and out there so there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   likelike again I'm going back to Erica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   there's that analytical level of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:40   what did alan moore mean when he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:43   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:43   that's fine but in terms of like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:46   an an editor or somebody saying what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:49   this what what do we think this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   going to be I get to issue 12 unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:53   nope this is not what we thought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   was going to be this is kind of totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:56   nuts and you know I I liked where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2036">TS</a>]

00:34:00   were going with the idea of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   taking me wonder woman kind of tropes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:05   and investigating those and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   commenting on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:08   we haven't even talked about the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:09   that you know promethea Sophie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:12   is a as as as they see a point out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:16   because she's a really good friend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   Sophie Sophie is kinda flat chested and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:21   promethea is a cartoon character she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:24   giant she's like an Amazon with big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   boobs and I you look at that and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:29   think this is a great commentary on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:33   you know on individuality and and who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:37   the real person here and how we depict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:38   women and and idealization of women and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:42   all of that you know this nice rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44   thing to draw from an issue 12 comes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   like oh ok the Big Bang there's a woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:49   with a snake in the sky real seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:50   the Big Bang is a male ejaculation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   then cosmic inflation is a female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   something that's the second card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:57   oh did you see that money 5,000 yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:01   that what I'm also wondering is we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   reading this in 2015 and graphic novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:06   are are pretty much they've come out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:09   the no really they're our basement where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11   they were hunting and because because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13   you have to get over the last decade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:14   we've had you know wonderful works of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16   nonfiction reportage and we've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   really great contain graphic novels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   it's kind of hard to remember sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   that promethea was spawned as it were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25   when this this this repositioning of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:29   comics and graphic novels when that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:30   still pretty ongoing and my senses is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:33   that more is smart but he also whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   or not he admits that he wants to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:36   recognized as one as a literary genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:39   and favor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:40   there's a little bit of trihard to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42   where you like to just you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   four systems of meeting per page not six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46   you know how I think it's important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   look at promethea in context when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   came out because he was also doing top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:53   10 and Tom strong like that at exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:57   the same time they all three of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:58   launched within two months of each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00   and top 10 is good it's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:04   annoyingly deep lake from media is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:07   Tom strong is just fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   yes so I think at the time he was giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   people a range of the Alan Moore's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13   they could pick which one they liked do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15   you like the one with the talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:16   gorilla and so much so that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   during when you get Tom strong appearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:21   in prometheus later on and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:24   like I'm not I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:25   i thought i was reading this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   comic and now we're back to that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:28   comic again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:29   yeah and I like well I like top 10 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   Tom strong and i would say both I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   them both enjoyed them both better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35   promethea but i also will accept in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:38   duality that prometheus is obviously an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   artist trying to do something big big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:45   and about the universe where is Tom Tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   strong top 10 or kind of about comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   books and i gotta-i gotta make sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51   I could make some but they're also i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   mean while I comment on the John run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   yeah and and then do a twist narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   and and all of that and so I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   appreciate Prometheus's ambition level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:03   versus top 10 tom strong which I like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   also i I don't know sometimes I wonder I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:08   try to think about alan moore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:10   forgive me for taking this even further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:11   off topic but sometimes I wonder about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   him in the context of somebody who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:16   sort of done everything there is to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18   and has been acclaimed as one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20   greats in his chosen medium and why do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:25   you do after that and and then he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   his extra anger about like DC Comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   taking advantage of him and all that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   so you end up with this like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32   what it what's your next acting for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:35   it was america's best comics i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   to do these different titles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   I'm gonna you know i'm going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:40   something super hero we over here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42   I'm going to do this something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:43   mythological over there and I mean it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45   kind of on one level I mean I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:48   idea how he turned out all the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   from the movie so obviously he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:51   enough money to live on and doesn't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:53   and can just turn the money down or give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:56   it to dave gibbons out of spite for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57   judgment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:58   well most of the movies are not making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   lot of money that legal ordinary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   gentlemen movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:02   well that's true but I mean just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   that just for the rights my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:05   understanding is they keep trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:06   shovel money and alan moore and he keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   saying give it to the colorist give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:09   to the letter or give it to the artist I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   don't want it i don't want your filthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   money that's fine but so then let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:16   assume we can do whatever he wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   that's kind of fascinating like you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:21   have reached the pinnacle you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   whatever you want and you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:26   that puts you in this position we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28   like all right well I'm gonna do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:29   crazy like kabbala infested uh your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:35   woman gets religion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37   let's do that and what I've done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   that I'm gonna do pornographic fanfic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   well retired my giant mansion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   worship by snake god my pal Neil rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:46   doubles he's living his best life I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:49   think we should talk about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50   let me take a sponsor break here i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   to tell you about mail route imagine a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   world without spam viruses or bounced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   email imagine opening your mail and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   seeing only the legitimate stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   you want and need to receive you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03   this with mail route get spam out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06   your box get out of your mail server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   i've been using mail route for quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:09   while now and it has cleared out my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   inbox can do the same for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:14   there's no hardware software by mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:16   route as a service that lives in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   cloud it takes in your mail it uses some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20   serious intelligence to filter out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22   spam and viruses and other just junk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:25   stuff and it doesn't deliver that to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28   instead it holds onto that stuff and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   passes through to your mail server only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   the good stuff so if your desktop user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:35   you can find that the user interface is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:36   simple and reliable but for you email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:39   administrators and IT pros out there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41   want to check it out they built all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:42   tools with you in mind they've got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:43   API for account management they support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   pretty much anything you'd want from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:48   people handling your mail ldap Active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:49   Directory TLS male bagging outbound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:52   relay all of that stuff no hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   software to buy remove spam from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:57   life for good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:58   I did go to mail route dotnet / and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:01   comfortable for a free trial and ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   percent off for the lifetime of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   account i've been using it it's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   great my inbox is clearer than it's ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09   been before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:10   check it out and thank you so much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:11   mail route for sponsoring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:12   comfortable that the word I keep coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   back to when i think about this is it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   feel like he thinks of this as maybe his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:20   masterwork because it ties together a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22   bunch of other things it looks like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   really putting himself on the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   perhaps more than even in some of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   other work in this this really is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   worldview in you know in color and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:34   good for him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:35   I'll see your I'll see your masterwork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38   and I'll raise it to manifest oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:41   okay that works that works is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   things that I find astounding is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   much he seems to hate Western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47   civilization because that comes know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:49   because the way that he depicts 1999 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:52   that's the world that Sophia station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54   it's pretty clear to me that station is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:55   a product of that world like purely and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   holy of that world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:58   well he hates modern Western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00   civilization League of Extraordinary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:01   Gentlemen later things suggest he really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:04   likes like old stuff we've been girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   weeping gorilla is is basically that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:09   the stand-in for I hate the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   sentiment has been commercialized and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:12   the bands are basically a stand-in for I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:15   hate the way music today as nihilistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17   and doesn't talk about meaningful things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:18   like it did in the 60s and the science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:21   heroes are an indictment of of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   corporatization of the state and also he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:27   really hates the fantastic 40 Giants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:32   heroes what are you talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:33   five small guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:34   yeah I'm totally different number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37   there's like this alien vs thing in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   book number two where I made a note but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:42   i'm trying to find it now where it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:45   most ridiculous sterilization that has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   solid banging your head against the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:48   where basically he's talking about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   the age of aquarius was so awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:51   because you have this generation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:52   was totally into spirituality there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   critical mass of people blur blur blur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   and I'm like are you kidding me with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   baby boomers and so this this whole this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:02   whole series is pretty much his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:05   contempt for and weirdly enough not his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:08   contempt for the baby boomers but rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:09   his contempt for the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   reacting to baby boomer culture so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   basically on the one hand it may be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15   master working on the other hand it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   just a little giant standing on the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   no hits he has a giant it's a giant fist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   raised at the kids saying get off my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23   lawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:24   it kind of feels like that when you when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:25   you read through another time you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   like wow he really has a lot of contempt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   for youth culture in this and for modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31   culture and you know when he's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   the end of the world wouldn't be so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:34   because we went off track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   I one of the things I noticed about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   and and you know that here's my theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   which is the watch watchmen is very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   like modern society is doomed and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:46   is like modern society is doomed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   it's later and so now he hates a later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:51   version of modern society but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:52   really just whatever is happening he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:55   hates it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:55   yeah it's a grand old counterculture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   days that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59   but he's pining for ya everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:02   he's a fascinating character back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   you can make an honest living as a drug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   dealer or something that's what yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:07   that's the thing it and this goes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:10   to my my n800 of academic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:11   deconstructionism to think we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:14   hate on podcast child actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   deconstructionism um but the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   you can't have a counterculture unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   you have account unless you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:21   culture to specifically define it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   like I don't think he realizes that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   many ways the counterculture both won [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:28   and lost because they got commodified so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   you really can't be counterculture at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:31   this point because we've become such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:32   polyglot culture and it's like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   doesn't recognize that and his works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:37   don't recognize that there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:38   there's this incredible conformance mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   and then there's like two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:41   people who see the real world and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   like really thats see no it's not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   that's not how that's not how it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47   worked and perhaps because again we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   looking at this from the filter of 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:52   years on where a lot has changed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   global landscape and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   Internet has has has had the internet is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58   now a fact of life for people there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01   there's a lot of points of view in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03   book that I i think are really specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:04   to their time like as i was reading I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:07   thought you said make a fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:08   college class the same way that reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   virginia woolf makes a fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:11   college class because you don't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   read the book what you have to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:14   understand the context in the history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:15   and why it mattered at the time it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:18   created and that's I think is part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:19   for going back and revisiting promethea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   I was like wow it is it is starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:25   read this now it in conduit you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   especially 15 years after basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   started and realize like how much has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:30   changed in how reactionary and and left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:33   behind this book filled in some ways I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35   mean it's still a beautiful book i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   it will see ya there isn't a single page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   for the coloring isn't the colors is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:41   phenomenal and you know we can rant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   about how wonderful todd Klein is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:46   they are you know I I really feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   JH williams three means needs a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   shout-out yes it's it's a gorgeous book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   battle use a lot of the ideas behind it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:55   and there's there's kind of no heart of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:56   this at the middle at the center of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:57   and if you're going to write a polemic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59   or if you're going to be like this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   life this is the culmination of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:02   philosophy like put some put some heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   into it i agree with you but I it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07   books defense in every single issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10   there is something in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12   clever there is something there is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14   beautiful art in every one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   issues the entire issue as a whole may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:19   not hang together at all but there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:23   there is cleverness in here I'm and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:26   take Erica's point about it's a it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:29   work of art and I take her point about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:33   how about that not being a terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   enjoyable statement thing but every once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:38   in a while I do like looking at art for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   art's sake and it may be difficult for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43   me to get emotionally involved in it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   for me to appreciate it as a story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:49   it is challenging and there are neat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   things that happen in every book ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:55   maybe not 36 but we're not anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:58   yeah I think we're being to a little too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   hard on it that and i think it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:03   certainly gorgeous to look at i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   it's interesting reading and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   it's fascinating to have a world class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:10   weirdo like alan moore it is until it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:13   down to his alan murray estate would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   this is what I think alan moore of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:19   the Alan Moore's in the world where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   alan moore easiest yeah like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:24   ambitious this book is yeah yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   know that's why I had no I i enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:29   reading it and we'll probably read all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:30   of the issues because again i would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:33   to read everything Elmore okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   almost everything maybe not lost girls I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   has also present he is fat he is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:40   fascinating even when I don't like or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:43   agree with what he's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   I'm fascinated to see the a great artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   at work and why i like it and don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:50   it i have to admit there are moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:51   where I feel like he's trolling me as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   your career because having enjoyed top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:56   10 for example there is a subplot early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:59   on involving the five swell guys and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:03   painted doll Everett at the hospital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05   that is very twisty plot a superhero e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:08   in the same way the top 10 is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11   accept its kind of beside the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:15   and its really like you were you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17   interested in that well that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:18   we're telling a story about today and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:21   I even kind of appreciate that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:24   also reminds me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:25   alan moore when he's focused on telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28   those kinds of stories and how I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   this is always in the back of my head is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   alan moore is such a brilliant writer of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:36   this this is genre of superhero we kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:40   of stories so good at it and I can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:44   that he doesn't want to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:47   yeah and you know he's done it and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   maybe done it better than anybody and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51   kind of doesn't want to do it again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:52   now he's just playing with me a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:54   bit like see I could do that but i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   going to and it's his you know it's up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   to him he doesn't have to write those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2878">TS</a>]

00:47:59   kinds of stories anymore but he's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01   when he kind of taunts me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03   it's like he's so good at it even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   he doesn't want to be and you know top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   10 reminded me how good he was at it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:10   would love to read a book about those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   five guys to be honest with you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13   interval goes swell first swell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:17   interpersonal dynamics for great um i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:20   love them i love the mayor with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:23   pulse width of and personalities yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:26   yeah and honestly if you know i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:29   have loved a a side book about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   people who are responsible for weeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:32   gorilla because I iphone just in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:35   ya know I i find yeah it's just it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:38   they're all these details that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:39   in that you could actually spin out into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   really rich entertaining books on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   own and they're just casually tossed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46   because this is a guy who's idea whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:47   idea factory never shuts down i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:50   clearly well you know i feel i was for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   rewarded when i get through his books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   and then go back and i picked this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   because you know it really is engaged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:59   reading on on a huge level and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:03   the comic book series i've been reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:04   kind of as a palate cleanser between us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   I've been going back and revisiting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08   mike grell run on green arrow which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:11   written but you know so it's books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:12   are like the ladies and it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   total total shift its in lab it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   literally like a palate cleanser it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   sorbet to the the gourmet work about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   more and it makes me appreciate them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23   both a whole lot more important without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   more like I'm effectively reading 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   books at once and and that got me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   thinking what I have this reaction if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:32   were in a different medium if your prose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   or if it were a TV show and and it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   this or or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38   this type of story that you can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:39   tell in comics I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   Lynda Carter would have made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:42   interesting promethea but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:45   there's a lot of women who have made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   sure he was just a lawless would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   great to actually you're right Lucy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:51   Lawless basically Barbie she be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   fantastic Barbara oh my god i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:56   Alan Moore man my eye I have my own like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/2996">TS</a>]

00:50:00   10 different versions of watchmen I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   and I think I've got it i mean i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   i've got a couple a couple v for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:07   vendetta and I from hell I mean I i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   fascinated by Alan Moore that oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   and all and all he does and this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   is this is good it's just there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   those moments where I feel like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17   more pulls us aside and ok sit here now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19   and let me tell you a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21   value it would you like to subscribe to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   my newsletter that is called dodjem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   logic there's one piece of dialogue i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:28   wanted to make fun of just just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   briefly just one pic yes there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:35   moment when I think it's Barbara [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   Prometheus says I'm freaking promethea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:40   you idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:41   yeah and reading that now really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   reminded me of Frank Miller's dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   for all-star batman and robin oh-ah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:51   going to steal Erica's role here and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53   going to make the obligatory doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   reference alright I when I light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:58   Ghostlight seventh seventh doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:01   episode where they crammed in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:05   ideas into three episodes and the and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:09   fandom is hugely divided over whether it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:13   is genius or whether it is overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:16   incomprehensible nonsense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:17   yeah principle not that I think Eric and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:20   I are both on the incomprehensible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:21   nonsense team here and and I get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:24   feeling over like I do get this feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:27   over promethea where I where I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:30   struggling i'm struggling through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   cool stuff and the cool art and trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:35   to figure out if this is a really a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:38   use of the medium you know I think for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   me it was a sound very negative about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:43   this and I think that the reason for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   that is simply because they didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47   what I was getting into my expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   worst kind of like I said set up to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   one thing if I had known what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   going to be going into it and had was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:56   able to sort of shift my mind to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:57   ready for that i think i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   would have liked it more but since i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:00   expecting something a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   straightforward it was disapointing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   have that that shift but but i do really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:08   think that it was beautiful on both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   surface levels and incredibly deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   levels i mean if there's a lot of good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   in here it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   this may not be for me but I am honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:19   glad that it exists and I I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:22   change a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:22   I think i'm totally with you Erykah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   mean i feel like i watch and read and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   listen to a lot of stuff that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:27   junk food media and this though I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:32   think I care for it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   interesting in a way that a lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   i consume is not so like I don't regret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:40   reading it which is you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42   something i can say about everything i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:43   read i don't know and i went back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:45   read it again because I wanted to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47   prepared and and I got more out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:49   the second time and that's not something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:50   that's always true but i don't know if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53   need to own it which I currently do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   don't know i'm going to go back and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   this again right you know i feel like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   got plenty of other comics on the Shelf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:00   that I'm much more likely to read many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:03   many more times before i decided to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   this one down again and you know I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:09   that's kind of how i feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:10   something that I've I've I've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:11   watchmen countless times I don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:14   the need to reread his middle stuff of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:17   League of Extraordinary Gentlemen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   anymore i'm okay with that right so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:22   yeah there's a moment and book 3 when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:25   their characters walking on a möbius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:28   loop and if you're reading this on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   iPad you're in hell yeah because because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:34   auto-rotate is your worst enemy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   oh yeah but what it's designed for it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   be in a comic book when I got to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:41   point I did actually have to put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:44   ipad down and direct an expletive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:48   Ally take a little long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:49   korean shake your fist Adele and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   wherever here take a left take a walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   around the ipad so you can actually see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   everything i want to mention that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   science hero thing which is in this end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   and in tom strong is a i believe i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:03   just talking on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:04   I walk today with with with my family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:07   about we were talking about superheroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:10   I didn't start it but I finished it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12   uh-huh about the idea of it superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   itself is a trademark co-owned by DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:17   Comics Marvel Comics and and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:20   realized later that this is why Alan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   Moore has played up the concept of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   science hero in these comics because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26   that's actually his commentary on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:29   fact that superhero is owned as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:32   concept and I thought that was hilarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34   actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   Wow because he's a bitter bitter man so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   so bitter who I had what better is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   awesome and you know I obviously enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   better men but I don't know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:50   talking about that the the take i took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:54   from that as well is since the a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:57   this talks about instinct and primordial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   flow and cosmic rhythms and so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:02   forth is i also had a kind of suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:05   slip it goes back to his I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:06   technological progress I think he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   a really big fan of scientific culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:12   as it emerged in popular culture over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:15   the last 60 to 70 years like I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:18   space race is kind of the worst thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:19   that's ever happened to him personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:20   because what because it legitimized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:24   science as a way to to learn about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   creation and introduce ideas of quantify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:29   ability and verifying and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:32   reproduce results and this is how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   know things is because they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:35   immutable and that that is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:38   counter to this whole you walk pads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40   see women having things to do it snakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:41   in the sky and that's how you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:42   you're on the the path to truth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44   freedom is so for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:46   science heroes is also his way of saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:47   well I hate the deplorable superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:50   culture of mainstream comics right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52   science is not done anything great for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:53   culture too horrible taste that tastes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   horrible together often get is his a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:58   wikipedia biography made me laugh out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   loud because it describes him as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   occultist ceremonial magician and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:06   anarchist it's like yep that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:09   you can tell you that from the beard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   really yeah well I got a cultist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:14   ceremonial magician i was saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   this should turn into a showtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   TV series and and I realize it will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   happen because i would but it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:21   break everybody's TVs know what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:24   thinking is personal a lot more like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:25   don't need the money and I thought what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   they do is they would probably strip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:28   cult it would be this woman gets really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30   possessed by hot women entities and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:33   goes often has adventures and at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35   she meets an FBI guy and settles down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:36   like they would totally date and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:39   meantime it's an example is an excuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   for women to get into like scanty chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   mail and run around and I thought oh man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:46   I i need to stop reading for that tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:47   and it is why I want more is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:50   yeah exactly because you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52   there's and and I thought well maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:53   religious things kind of off-putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:54   thing because in u.s. culture were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:57   really generally very uncomfortable with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00   with any sort of with the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:01   people who believe things that are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03   judeo-christian have have valid rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05   and their beliefs might actually be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   worth considering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:08   that's not really an idea that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:09   comfortable with so having an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11   series or attractive will explain the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/3431">TS</a>]

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01:11:07   flashbacks when he was alive Wolverine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09   yeah I have really enjoyed the adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:12   time comic book written by Ryan North [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:15   who does the daily dinosaur comics on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17   the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:18   although he's not going to be writing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20   anymore so i'm not sure where that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:21   going and I've been trying to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:24   Doom Patrol nonsense but I you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:28   butt first trade paperback have not said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30   so I'm hitting the second one already in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:33   the grant morrison to control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:34   yeah yeah oh yeah oh yeah chip anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:39   any other than for media any comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:42   you've been reading lately and liking um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44   I have been taking advantage of some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:46   the holiday sales that comiXology was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:48   doing and I i have discovered mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:52   waid's daredevil oh yeah that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:55   that's really that's really good that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:58   really good and I i am not terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:01   interested in wolverine the character so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   i have not been reading the death of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:06   Wolverine but the stuff that paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:07   cornell wrote leading up to that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:10   the two years of did like any for issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:13   I think of wolverine volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:14   yes five and six or whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:16   fantastic and me made me care about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:20   character only only and only in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:23   writers hands not enough to follow it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25   with a to a different writer but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:29   highly recommend it and it stands on its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:32   own without any of the event stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:34   follows nice Erica you read many comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:38   I don't actually know this about you or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:40   was promethea big one for you lately but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:43   it was lately i had my comics phase that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:45   will actually haven't read a whole lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:47   of anything in the past few years but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:49   have done a little bit of rereading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:50   every read a few my old help lasers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52   recently but actually I we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:55   rearranged our podcast studio / lego [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:58   room where some of my comic books also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:00   resided and i ran across a few that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:03   haven't started reading yet but it'sit's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   next up on my list to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:07   it's a very very short truncated series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:09   called rapid as EDD which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:12   sadly crushingly was only three issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:14   long because it was published by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:16   cross-gen and then they went out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:17   business and it was it was kind of aimed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:20   aimed at children and it was a story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:22   a magical land that a young sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:25   grumpy teenage girl had had read these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:27   books very wizard of oz like but then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:30   course she discovers that it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:32   a real place and she has to go there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:34   rescuing her little brother and it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:36   a fantastically realized false the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:40   and it really cute characters and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:44   just a I'm a sucker for anything that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:46   remotely like The Wizard of Oz so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:49   know labyrinth is made one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:50   favorite movies this this is right up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:52   alley and was really well done and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:54   just so heartbroken when it gotta oh we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:57   got cut short so I that I just brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4437">TS</a>]

01:14:00   up the wikipedia page and apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:01   they made some disney bought the rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03   and they made some children's books out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:04   of it so i may have to pick those up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:06   just to see where the story goes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:07   yeah so i will be reading a peasant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:10   I recommend it for anybody who is into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:12   that sort of thing but be ready to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:14   your heart broken because it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:15   keep going right and I guess that leaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:18   me i wanted to mention a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:20   things I've been reading old x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:23   issues in Marvel unlimited which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:26   fascinating because my memory of x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:28   series actually have been reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:29   x-men after from when I stopped reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:32   the x-men in the mid-eighties and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:35   you remember why you stopped i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:37   reminded of that but I I'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39   fascinated by the fact that now i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:41   200 issues or whatever just sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:43   there that I could just flip through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:44   with no charge i am reminded that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:47   childhood crush on Kitty Pryde would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:49   have survived and I kept reading for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:51   another two years because they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:54   something horribly eighties things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56   her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:56   any idea where you would not be nearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58   as 1/2 go on a little longer but instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:02   she was frozen in 1983 or whatever when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:04   they they didn't put her in the fishnets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:07   so that was ok she was adorable 19 yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:10   she really was so anyway I'm fascinated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:11   by that i'm also reminded that one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:13   the problems and maybe I'm hoping we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15   actually will do this in an episode 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   the problems I have with the x-men one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:18   of the things that I think makes it hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:20   to talk about them is that it is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:22   chris claremont era they really what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24   was like a soap opera and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:25   actually very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:26   to hold onto the storylines there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:28   these storylines you can point to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:29   when you actually go back to the issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:31   you realize they're all mixed up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:33   thread it in with all this other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:34   and it's actually very hard to get ahold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:36   on something and say this is an x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:38   story because it all ends up played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:41   across you know the x-men and the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:43   mutants and this miniseries in that mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:46   series and they're all kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:47   interleaved with other storylines that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   are also happening and becomes very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:51   and falls apart when you love that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:54   just marvel comics in general at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:56   time yeah like this is a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:58   story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4558">TS</a>]

01:15:58   Thor turns into a frog ok the beyonders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:02   also in this issue yeah like I just went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:04   through secret war sincere words too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:05   the x-men like man this is rough stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:08   this is like like literally there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:09   oh and now we're at Central Park and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11   we're gonna go through this gateway and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:13   then the next issue well we're back from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:14   The Secret Wars like a man i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:16   that that was not good and yet that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:18   where like spider-man is cool black out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:21   costumes from so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23   oh yeah but it's just fascinating like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:25   want to talk about like the brood war at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:27   issues of x-men and they're great but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:29   when you try to pick out exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:30   they are you kinda can't because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:33   all intertwined with all this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:34   stuff anyway it's been fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   I'm feature requests from Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:39   unlimited i really love them to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:40   some sort of chronological reading list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:42   for some of this stuff because I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:43   really like to be able to read an x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:46   issue and then just go to the New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:47   Mutants issue and then go back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:48   x-men issue because instead I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:50   kind of do that myself but anyway that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:52   been fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:53   it's it's like I've returned the bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:57   went back in time to where I abandoned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:59   all those comics and now picking them up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:01   that's fascinating I wanted to also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:04   mention that i'm reading the spider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06   verse story an amazing spider-man I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08   mention this because it's an as a an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:10   event it's okay cuz it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:12   self-contained their spin-off issues but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:14   the main story is in amazing spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:16   the thing that I really like is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:17   it's integrated l you know not only some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:19   new alternate universe spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:22   characters but also every spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:25   character from every medium ever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:28   there is a particular scene in I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:30   think'll one of the issues from last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:32   month where the actual cartoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:35   characters from spider-man and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:37   amazing friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:38   spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:39   Firestar and Iceman in there cool new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:42   york apartment pad / superhero team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:44   headquarters are brutally murdered and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:49   i can hardly lion I can't believe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:51   did it but they did it and it is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:54   hilarious also there's there's a scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:56   where they wear it where they go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:58   they go to the date Daily Bugle of jonah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:01   Jameson from the 1967 animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:03   spider-man series which is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:05   amazing so it blew my mind as a longtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4685">TS</a>]

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01:18:09   spite of verse i believe that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZP_0uw/4689">TS</a>]

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