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00:00:35 ◼ ► notice a damn thing it should just all day all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/35">TS</a>]
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00:01:13 ◼ ► the i's and cross the t's on the feed redirection and stuff like that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/73">TS</a>]
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00:01:26 ◼ ► well-written podcast client if they get a 30 to http which is 301 says redirect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/86">TS</a>]
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00:02:37 ◼ ► SoundCloud yeah I don't mess with anybody know but it's funny down from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/157">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► occasional guest of the the talk-show pointed out the the sort of irony in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/166">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► that is that it's that SoundCloud is effectively odio to point out yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/172">TS</a>]
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00:03:04 ◼ ► remember that war 2005 but it was you have ever Williams and Biz Stone in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/184">TS</a>]
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00:03:18 ◼ ► of Google and they made odio and it was going to be like like Blogger for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/198">TS</a>]
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00:03:29 ◼ ► something in terms of like back in 2004 2005 thinking podcasting was gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/209">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► clearly they're at it you know the basic the fundamental idea that is pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/215">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► and ahead of its time but they didn't ever get quite got it to work and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/219">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► it was like one other guy is the guy named jack is over there and we also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/224">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► have any ideas and Jack Dorsey is like I got an idea and it turned into twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/229">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► twitter yeah the idea really was a separate company though right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/235">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► well did well start Twitter started as an audio product and it and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/242">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► quite sure what the legal side some point you know lawyers came in and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/249">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► and audio product to Twitter being a stand-alone you know corporation yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/258">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► was spun off but but Twitter date started life as a product of the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/264">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► corporation I've gotten odio t-shirt thing happen to audio yeah I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/269">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► changed the name to the obvious corporation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► thinking it might yeah which i think is still the parent company of media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/282">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► you know that's the new thing that real ok ok they just when he started that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/288">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► just started under that umbrella yeah I think I you know and again is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/294">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► really a difference if they dissed designer know maybe they just dissolved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/298">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► odio and started a new company called obvious where I think they changed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/302">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► name though you know just like save on paper one of them something I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/307">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► like I might have been easier to just change the name of the video to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/310">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► obvious corporation are you planning on using sentiment I guess so I mean it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/315">TS</a>]
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00:05:32 ◼ ► hosting the podcast in and there are you know I don't know how much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/332">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► details you're you're taking care of with the with the parenting show turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/336">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► this car don't make me go back there was also in the running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/345">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► we have a long list of things that dads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/355">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► was probably there was probably in there someplace but there are there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/360">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► sorts of details they have to worry about and and a fundamental one is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/365">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► do you store the audio files yeah it would cost according to my calculations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/369">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► couple of thousand dollars a month for me to host the audio on Amazon s3 could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/377">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► be off by a little but I'm probably not off by a lot which is you know we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/386">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► talking about hundreds of dollars and I'm I just squander it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► thousands of dollars you've got my attention and SoundCloud is free this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/395">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► economy I don't get too inside baseball here but to me it's a sort of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/400">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► interesting it's the perils of of venture-backed cloud services so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/403">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► SoundCloud is free for everything and and it's just started life I guess is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/410">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► sort of a music hosting service where musicians could have put songs up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/415">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► have people playing but they don't you know they let you put anything up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► including podcasts and you can put your podcast there and they don't insert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/421">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► their own ads to have a player that you can embed like if you go you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/427">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► anybody has ever looked at the talk-show pages on your radio they used the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/432">TS</a>]
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00:07:23 ◼ ► SoundCloud branding but you don't have to use their audio player you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/443">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► Dave discuses unprofessional show Jamie Newberry now are those that forget who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/448">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► used to be the host what's his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/456">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► that's it who is on my part my parenting practiced he is he never speaks up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/461">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► over yours you and john Kasay treatment as in the case of treatment they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/473">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► do it they should do a show and they do it because like those guys the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/479">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► guys the other guys should pretend to be each other just a few things but an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/484">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► unprofessional he hosts their audio sound club he uses a different you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/497">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► html5 audio player and it all seems too good to be true because behind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/502">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► scenes SoundCloud host your audio on Amazon s3 and so you know it's it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/508">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► hundreds or if they're popular enough show thousands of dollars worth of s3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/513">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► bandwidth that SoundCloud is just covering based on the bike sixty million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/518">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► dollars they've raised in venture capital yeah so it's a perfect fit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/525">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► to honor the idea and so like with like my friends and as I've been talking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/530">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► and and planning and plotting and detailing you know everything I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/540">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► do to move the the talk show to be part of during fireball and I see you I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/544">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► that and I think that's too good to be true and too good to be true it is to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/550">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► it makes me very uncomfortable I would rather pay a reasonable amount of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/554">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► for something that I feel is sustainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/558">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► I say this is some people on and some people hear it and they you know of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/561">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► good point that is a little worrisome and then other people like just take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/565">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► free hosting dummy worry about what you do when it goes away when it goes away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/568">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► wait for the brown you have an established podcast so in your situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/574">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► it's a little easier you know with established sponsors and so so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/579">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► little easier to actually go out and sell something out but we started up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/585">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► advertisers to begin with and so right now it's been a lot harder right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/591">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► it's not that it done a lot of confidence that I was gonna go someplace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/595">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► and there's other options besides Amazon s3 there's all sorts of things like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/598">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► know one could do to host a podcast but there you know because SoundCloud offers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/603">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► a good quality you know because it back by s3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/608">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► they don't tell you that but it just if you poke around and see where your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/613">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► coming from it seems like it is good quality it works around the world which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/617">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► is often a problem like if you were just to do like the obvious thing and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/622">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► get like Linux server start just put your audio files there let people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/627">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► download it like people around the world might have trouble getting it whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/632">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► something that's meant to be a content delivery system like s3 works better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/635">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► then you don't have to pay again like he said it seemed like a perfect fit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/641">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► Twitter you guys have no idea and no idea how to make money for it we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/647">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► going to spend $30 on you guys can work with us all sorts of acquisition of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/655">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► is another one of our co uses something else which lips it lipson yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/668">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► they're they're a little bit less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/676">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► nebulous in terms of the money like to have some kind of hearing and paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/679">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► accounts and something I don't know they mean what's your name and Paul confesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/684">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► have a show then I'm so bad with names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/693">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► yeah yeah that's why I like to have you on the show to start over what your name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/698">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► is exactly he's got the same name that I've got little body that Armstrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/705">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► doesn't have any age yet he must be a Jonathan Wright whenever I see a jail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/712">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► when I just slept with that is assuming you're right we're not right i mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/717">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► know that it's John now I CJO and I think you're really a Jonathan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/723">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► you're just pretending to be at John and then when other people will say to me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/729">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► they say hey is your real name Jonathan Gruber is your full name Jonathan Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/735">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► then I'm offended cuz I might now have an age where you renamed after somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/738">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► sort of long story short I was the first child and this is before any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/743">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► ultrasound tape technology so when my mom was pregnant with me in 1972 all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/757">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► they knew was that she was pregnant and had not been invented nope sounded and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/766">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► color right but my mom was a hundred percent convinced that she was having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/770">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► girl she had no children before but she just felt like she was having a girl and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/777">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► she even has he still has it like a little like back pocket-sized book of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/782">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► baby names like the sort of little almost like a pamphlet book with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/789">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► thousands of names but it's you know it's like the size of a field 25 names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/793">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► that you know you can buy books like that the supermarket yeah and she has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/799">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► and and like the girl pages are all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/805">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► warn there's dozens and dozens of names circled in different colors for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/809">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► second and there's a two boys names it was like Jason and I are in like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/816">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► boys names over Lake begley underlined and that was it that was the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/827">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► thought she'd put into it and then I came out and they said it's a boy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/830">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► she doesn't know it's not in my back and and and she was upset because she didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/835">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► know she was this result was a girl that no names picked out my dad was not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/843">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► room because this was 1973 and was not a smoke-filled room with which cigars yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/847">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► yeah probably like a six pack or something and then they came in and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/854">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► wife had a baby is healthy boy and my dad I guess he joined and she said all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/864">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► of your column and he discusses name is John and that was that there was like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/870">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► discussion of my mom and dad's been like hours and hours over the preceding like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/875">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► picking up girls names mi they'd never discussed it just goes his name is John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/881">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► now it ends up that both both of my grandparents her dad and my dad's dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/886">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► were both named John and so you know everybody felt on it right where you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/891">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► know anybody yeah my grandfather my mom's dad and he passed away like six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/900">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► months before I was born so I was named after him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/906">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► tragic yeah good names most kids don't smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/909">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► good name gets me through the day lots of other acquisitions in the news so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/914">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► and near near acquisitions orchard continuing tortured acquisitions well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/924">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► that the beats one which I thought would have been old news by the time we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► recording this is still not still at limbo still actually not news like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/934">TS</a>]
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00:15:46 ◼ ► Friday right and a lot of people have been writing to me you know it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/946">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► fireball emailing saying like hey maybe this whole thing is just nonsense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/951">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► you know Apple not denying it is just their usual you know we don't comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/955">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► one way or the other because if they end there might be you know who knows I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/959">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► don't I actually don't know but you know that the idea would be why wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/965">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► happen just publicly denied if it weren't true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► the idea then would be that they'd be right because then they'd be giving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/971">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► away if there is another subsequent one that was real but was still pending and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/977">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► then they didn't comment on that one then it would be a sign that if it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/984">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► true Apple deny it but if it is true is true that helped me why we're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/989">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► therefore if they want to maintain you know people in here until they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/994">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► make the announcement themselves they have to not comment on everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► so there's some logic there but I do think though that if it weren't the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► then I I don't think they moved to address it officially with an official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► statement but I think behind the scenes they get word out and we haven't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► seen any sign of that there's not a single report from anybody saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► know unnamed sources familiar with the situation say that Apple is not buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► beats everything as you indicated that they still intend to and Peter Kafka [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► recode that's the new AllThingsD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► he said like mid week last week that it was taking longer than expected but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► this is the week sometime this week announced I guess it seems like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► probably didn't help I would guess that probably wasn't a great idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► think so I just my guess is it's not the video that was the problem is the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► that the video to rate the major the major problem right it was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1074">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► yeah and I would guess that dr dre did not expected to be posted to Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► you know he you know he's he's very very smart man and he's clearly been if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► true he's clearly been in he knows enough that Apple doesn't want anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► that I think that you know it was the fact that it was his friend that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► wasn't he posted it to Facebook it was his friend that posted about that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► good conversation it was only up for a few hours rain and it was taken down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► early in the morning and it also seemed like the sort of situation where maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► he would have been getting up early in the morning that would probably be my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► guess is well yeah there might have been sleeping internet for that but it was me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► know and I know judgment there nobody loves asleep in morn I do you sure can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► swing in a pair of Beats headphones around that somebody with an opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► about them yeah yeah I think the funny thing is I think that's it to me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► interesting thing about it isn't the actual is no longer the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► acquisition of it comes to pass it's more that the way that we've had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► this two week period where it was just one confirmed rumor with no explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► from Apple repeat as to why you would want to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► it's become like this sort of blank canvas where everybody can project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► whatever they think about Apple onto it good or bad yeah yeah I guess I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► think it I everything I mean everything that Apple does has that a house that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► element to it and I feel better I feel like this more so than anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► because we lose it did seem to come out of left field like nobody is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► predicting it it did seem confusing at first to a lot of us to me at least and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1194">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► I think it's still I think it's so confusing a little bit anyway because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► doesn't seem like the hardware that great it doesn't seem like you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► they have a streaming service already and from what everybody says it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► seem like the licenses for the music go along with the sale but then there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► vine where three billion seems like a lot for in a quagmire exactly right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► don't you know maybe altogether though maybe a know it all together it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► like something a little bit here a little bit there is no it's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► on the surface it's not completely clear exactly what the value is yeah I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► agree but I don't know though that it you know I'm willing to say as somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► who is you know I think widely known as a key now Paul observer I'm willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► say I just don't know and just wait just wait you know I don't have a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► way that I could go off on any kind of strongly opinionated you know column or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► or rant here on the show one way or the other that this is stupid it's genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► either way I i dont know I don't know enough yet I don't know why more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► can't just say I don't know I think that's a sign of weakness I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► don't know but I've seen people as you know the saying that this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► clearest sign this is incontrovertible proof that Tim Cook is a moron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► you know that he's running the country into the company into the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► and and other people say it's genius you know in this you know keeps out on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► of the music industry for another two decades and it's really I don't see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► either of those extremes is evident in least ya jung did you read today's young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► weaknesses and now I did not going to suggest he's gonna be a good piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1316">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► today is Monday notice about is about that in his opinion he puts it fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► well basically just saying that he doesn't he doesn't understand it at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► point I think that's the to me that's the only thinking man's take is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► doesn't make it less intriguing if anything it makes it more intriguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► because it's now we you know there's something interesting going on here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► can't wait to find out more about it there's gotta be you just feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► there's gotta be something more you know like I don't think I really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► really do not think that the answer is apple has just given up and decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► just be lazy and just throw billions around without really thinking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► that after going decades only making relatively small I mean I think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► case that they haven't made a billion they've never made a billion dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► acquisition and that all of a sudden now after never having done so now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► just going to spend money willy nilly I mean it doesn't make sense to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► without a very very concrete idea of how it's going to help out I just don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► it it's interesting that when they acquired next to me next was only 400 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► million or something like that yeah four hundred and some yeah and there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► inflation adjustment they have to do right but there's also think this just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► apart from the value of the dollar there's there's an acquisition inflation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► yeah that's gone on since then these acquisitions that have happened just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► driven up like every time somebody wants to get acquired their life wells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► facebook buys Instagram for well look at it this way that the Apple into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► Apple next acquisition was I forget one it was officially completed I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► was like at least a handshake around Christmas 1996 but but made official in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► january ninety seven so whether you want to call it 96 or 97 1997 as a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► better because it you know you know Christmas weaker New Years week 96 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► effectively 97 anyway but even so the dot-com bubble was still in the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► days you know it it gotten started but it was still early days and so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► acquisitions were still largely done on traditional metrics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► revenue and profit like the idea that you add value and acquisition on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► anything it's sad that a lot of cases but in others maybe not so you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► a good example maybe Facebook buying Instagram where Instagram hadn't tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► to make a nickel right they'd never sold the app they did they've never done is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► clearly worth a lot right because they had growth and they had you know all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► these images they had given a good technology like 12 me often goes under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► sunset about Instagram because it's when things work we just don't notice it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► take it for granted but Twitter which was all just text you know had so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► problems with scaling with the fail whale etcetera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► Instagram was doing something you know where I'm guessing the average Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► post is at least I could be there can be at least a thousand times bigger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► tweet though because its own image now just 140 characters rain I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► might be but I could be ten thousand times where I don't even know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► even know how big an instrument to bed gotta be at least two thousand times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► more and never really had scheduling problems right and the previous darling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► we have to go way back in the day for the early days of liquor before Yahoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► bought them also had you know terrible scaling problems and it was far smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► than Instagram was they did a great job so there's some value there but billions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► or was it one doing that Facebook bought them for I think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► for a company that never even tried to make a little crazy while not crazy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► it's it's it was certainly be crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► users which is a pretty important branch for that kind of thing and the potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► yeah I think the biggest thing if you're going to compare something like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► buying beats four three billion today to apple's next acquisition in ninety-seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► isn't about the inflationary difference between 400 and some million in three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► billion now it's really more how much is the cost compared to how much the couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► had on hand at the time whereas now Apple has one hundred and sixty billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► much of it off see overseas but even so even if you even if they decided to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► the entire price in cash using overseas cash and pay you know thirty or forty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► percent income tax on the thing it's it's a drop in the bucket rate they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► could spend five billion on beats and it's only 130 fifth of their entire cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► you know it you know whereas the 400 and some million acquisition of next in 1997 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► was people say this all the time that it's a bet the company move that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► one case where it's not the least bit of hyperbole where it was enough you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► Apple was near bankruptcy they didn't have it couldn't afford to lose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► workout right if you're just basically was so Microsoft investment was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► hundred and fifty million hundred and fifty million so it was three times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► bigger than a 30 at Microsoft physically fit for a third of them have said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► before Microsoft's people off a look back at that and say that microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► helped save apple by giving them a hundred and fifty million 250 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► they gave out but didn't really make much of a difference compared you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► in terms of keeping the company afloat like they needed office yet they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► needed billions of revenue per quarter just to stay in the black so a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► and fifty million investment from Microsoft and it was enough at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► that it certainly didn't hurt but it didn't make a big difference i mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► need to billions in revenue and keep costs down to stay in the black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► quarter-to-quarter it was like you said yet the commitment to keep doing office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1734">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► and the political value of the hundred and fifty million dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► the fact that is Apple's revenue last quarter was forty five point six billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► so consider that they'd taken at about that and that's not a record quarter 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► million to three billion doesn't seem like very much right I think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► the the concern and I have this concern I do you know I want to see how it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► out I mean but as a as a company watcher I'm certainly concerned about it where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► it's not the money its to me the the the potential that it could signify a lack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► of focus focus has always been the key to Apple's success that they have all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► this town in the company and so many good executives and the whole operation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► is working on such a relatively few number of products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► Tim Cook has said he's used the analogy several times but that like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► that that he could put all of the company's products on one table in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► Apple store the entire lineup of hardware that Apple sells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► could be arranged neatly on one table and that that sort of focus is what led [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► to the company do such good work on those products yeah I guess that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► kind of colors how you think this deal as the value of this deal depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► what do you think they're gonna sort of subsume that brand into their own or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► keep it separate yeah totally I mean my dear and I talked about this last week I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► just don't know I did me that's the one of the single biggest questions about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1846">TS</a>]
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00:32:02 ◼ ► fidelity but effectively making it sound as though you have a nightclub in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► head and they do a really good job that I don't know though that that means that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1927">TS</a>]
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00:32:18 ◼ ► that they have technology that is it that they have technology that's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1938">TS</a>]
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00:32:43 ◼ ► against Apple for as long as Apple is existed in probably from 1980 onwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► people who are clearly not a fan of Apple products and general saying it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1971">TS</a>]
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00:33:01 ◼ ► so it's you know I don't think it's a problem for Apple that from among some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► people the idea that Apple buys beads reinforces that notion of the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1985">TS</a>]
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00:33:13 ◼ ► to turn around right end if your goal is to get a hundred percent of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/1993">TS</a>]
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00:34:26 ◼ ► just for listeners of the show where they show the results of a white paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2066">TS</a>]
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00:35:12 ◼ ► and using Gmail and avoiding it whereas companies that use a glue people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► actually will use it and they like it and I'm laughing because I used to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► supports the use SharePoint and and that is exactly what we found right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► install it and then people find ways to get around to get away from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► SharePoint doesn't play well with mobile that's a huge thing going forward you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2131">TS</a>]
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00:37:37 ◼ ► players play video games and you and I have talked about this race uncertain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► years old are really into watching videos of people playing video games and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2263">TS</a>]
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00:38:05 ◼ ► baseball that I bought so far this year and yet I'm the one who was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► see how crazy it is that my son watches people playing game video of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► playing games rather than point whereas I haven't played baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► fifteen years and watch hundreds of hours over the year and it just hit me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2301">TS</a>]
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00:38:29 ◼ ► love watching my favorite baseball team play he's into video games into it loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► watching people play video games and I would rather watch people play video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► games because of a better chance than with my local sports team I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► better chance seeing somebody actually win so I think if you're if your YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2323">TS</a>]
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00:39:00 ◼ ► being dealt with as a YouTube acquisition not a group was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► too and I didn't even notice but like the head of YouTube her title as CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2345">TS</a>]
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00:39:27 ◼ ► particular not Google in general that might be making this acquisition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► somebody and I apologize because they don't remember it was a retweet of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► someone who don't follow but said that a while ago Vimeo had noticed that event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► that people were posting a lot of certain let's play videos and responded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2380">TS</a>]
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00:40:12 ◼ ► can post to YouTube where you know i mean you know copyright stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2412">TS</a>]
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00:40:21 ◼ ► would get rejected directed from YouTube but if it's legal you can post in care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/2421">TS</a>]
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01:23:08 ◼ ► get to the top which is where the top management is and there's no bookmarks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy67RU8/4988">TS</a>]
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