00:00:00 ◼ ► do you have that too don't you have that Adam I'm making this up that you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► your your 2nd toast sticks are further than your but now I was called that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► freaked out when I was little I suppose that means you're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/7">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► financially well off when you when you get older I actually look that up years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/11">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► ago and I think that's like genetically the more common one so having it not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/16">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► that way as is actually the freeway but it still looks weird to me like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/21">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► don't have a draw for that way you would never drafted that way but I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/24">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► that the tips of my second and third toes would be just blistered the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/29">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► and so I would get up earlier would skip breakfast and go to the trainer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/35">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► certainly being a pro athlete as I get it could stand University in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/41">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► Pennsylvania and you go to the trainer and there was a real college athletic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/45">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► trainer and he would I would like to take razor blades to your blisters doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/49">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► doing right or is that the treatment I i dont I wouldn't recommend doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/56">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► yourself it seems like it was you know like a fine line between cutting off too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/65">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► much of this can into little hurt like hell in the morning and I just feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/69">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► is terrible they can even walk but then after a while just sorta you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/74">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► get numb to the pain and then you you know play alright never much for summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/79">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► camp we have a playground like a local playground would run high school kids to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/86">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► morning and and it'd be like supervised kickball games and box hockey in arts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/95">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► and crafts insurance on that I don't think it was it was like you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/101">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► would be like the very late seventies and early eighties I think it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/107">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► holdout Ramos smaller simpler America just gonna say it's a simpler time rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/111">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► where where the municipal the city's town I grew up the municipal government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/115">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► paid for it somehow it was in the school like you did open up a little hallway in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/119">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► school which is next to the playground so the answer is a ping pong table in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/125">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► there you play ping pong when it rained and that's where the battle must have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/129">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► been because you need at least one right there was a bathroom and it cannot a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/133">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► locker locker they'd keep the kick balls in the bases and stuff like that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/137">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► when they open up at night to like 68 at night or something like that they'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/141">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► closed from noon to six and everybody go to the community pool or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/147">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► nine to noon and 68th Street somehow I guess I guess I don't know why I grew up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/151">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► in a housing development so we had a couple dozen kids all around the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/159">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► age that that was we started our own makeshift camp I think I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/165">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► anybody who went to camp camp though I guess that if your parents love you they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/169">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► they keep you around it and I think join us as mixed feelings about it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/174">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► a nice cam and you know they've got he loves to swim they got pool play games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/180">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► and stuff but you know his view is that the inside of our house is sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/186">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► yeah we've got video games and air conditioning and take a bus to get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/193">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► refrigerator full cold beverages and about it I we gotta get the show on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/200">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► road has there's an exciting soccer matches coming up that I really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/205">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► no of course it's not as though you're not following world hating every minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/211">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► masochist i'm following it did you ever play soccer no I don't like you know Jim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/218">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► soccer and I was happy I never even I never went out for any of the teams or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/223">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► anything you know I didn't seemed interminable to me and I think playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/227">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► it is way better than watching it and I don't even know about that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/232">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► I just felt so clumsy to me like it just seemed to me like it seems to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/237">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► basketball and soccer are here sports you know two teams are gone four goals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/241">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► there's there's severe limits on how you can touch in advance the ball and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/248">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► seems like to me always seemed to me like basketball is the one where what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/253">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► what is it that separate us from the other animals it's our hands were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/256">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► purposely not using them in this ones board right well I mean the obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/259">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► corollary is really hockey though but hockey manages to be way more exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/264">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► than soccer to me and again you get to use your hands a little these to stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/268">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► that you know Ryan Ryan's think I think Greece is playing today but I god I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/274">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► every minute of this I'm glad it's only once every four years to root for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/282">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► greeks just said of the Heritage family heritage you know my dad really I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/286">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► cared I you know I was born in America I'm an American but I'm only 50% greeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/292">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► that's pretty Greek but I I don't really trust me you're pretty you're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/301">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► good you've seen my forearms you were going there I went there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/305">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► what's-his-name Montero's rooting for the Portuguese yeah and he had said he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/311">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► even serious or just traded it really seemed like trolling and I hope it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/317">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► because it was either trolling or he is like the worst sports fan I've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/322">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► how could you not be room for the Americans well I mean like if he wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► to root for the Portuguese that's alright but like if you follow his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/333">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► Twitter stream during the Portugal USA match it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/336">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► I mean it was just you wanna throw some through the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/340">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► yeah I I kind of got the feeling he was just trying to complain about the rest I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/344">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► don't think we're in the USA is favored at all I don't think I think it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/351">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► well refereed matches any and like on on Dempsey's goal he was he kept calling on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/354">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► all sides and then meanwhile the announcers are not well isn't it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/358">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► as if there was any question and also the only question one thing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/363">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► officiating there was the extra the one extra minute extra went from four to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/367">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► five minutes right right that's when they scored in that and that's when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/372">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► scored was in the fifth supposedly they're saying that I would I read after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/376">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► the match is that whoever whoever the mysterious referee is who gets to decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/380">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► how many minutes of extra time there is added another fifth minute so he added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/385">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► one on on the last us' substitution where you ask the guy being substituted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/392">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► was I cross off the field which is possibly justified although I'm from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/397">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► what the announcers said is is a time honored tradition oh well it's horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/403">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► I mean this is this is what happened against Ghana the past two World Cups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/409">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► for the us- that you know they got a lead and then they were just everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/413">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► was suddenly struck down by injury balls are being kicked out of the stadium we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/419">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► don't have any more about somebody get a pump I mean when I don't I have so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/424">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► complaints about soccer but the one that really gets me is that we can use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/431">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► stop button on a stopwatch it is literally called the stopwatch because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/434">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► you can start the time and then you can stop it instead of just letting it run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/440">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► for 45 minutes and then saying there was about two minutes of extra time we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/445">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► to add it seems it seems like some kind of bizarre antiquated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/449">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► holdover from a hundred years ago right but then meanwhile they've got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/455">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► like like television crew at least has like the offsides camera that is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/459">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► showing exactly where the player was with my computer renderings and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/465">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► as if the game has it is the same that it is played in you know a desert in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/471">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► back alley or something like the game the World Cup games are a professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/476">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► level we can use a stopwatch properly yeah I don't I don't get that and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/481">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► why they don't run in simple just stop if the RAF decides hey this is a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/485">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► injury I'm blowing my whistle then there's a timekeeper who had to read but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/490">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► exactly and then when he blows his whistle again they hit the red button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► again and then it's ninety minutes and it's ninety minute right and at 9000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/496">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► buzzer goes off in the game as I write this is also the weird thing at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/501">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► you know and and you know it was almost almost got to that point in the us- [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/509">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► Portugal match where there is no automatic buzzer that goes off there if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/514">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► the team is down by one goal and streaming down the sideline don't blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/521">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► bothers me just just logically it like as a nerd its annoying like this nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/527">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► of of the clock and yeah whereas I love I do love and and our mutual friend and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/533">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► he's been slowly getting me more into the game over the years I English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/539">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► you know grew up in some kind of soccer playing country has been preaching to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/546">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► that it's beautiful you know that it's the beautiful game and there's aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/553">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► and there's parts of it that I am getting more into but I do love I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/556">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► the fact that it's a running clock that it's you know they start a half and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/560">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► the next 45 minutes you're just watching these guys play well I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/565">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► that's the great aspect of it that there's no commercials like cutting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/569">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► the game just a half time for commercials and then they you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/573">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► it's funny it's like the nature of the it's just like the web and anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/577">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► if you want to sell at the nature of the opportunity the advertisers will find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/583">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► way so they have those sponsorships along the sideline which are like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/588">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► in hockey are way more noticeable and yeah but its way better than commercial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/593">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► break and all absolutely absolutely well but I think I don't know how much I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/596">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► think that's part of the issue with soccer in america's think there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/601">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► nearly as much money in it even with all those ads because it just doesn't ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/604">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► total up to as much as you would make from selling a few commercial yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/608">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► somehow the Premier League in Europe makes tons of money and that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/612">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► afford to pay guys you know it's it's commensurate with us' you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/615">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► professional sports in terms of the top players salaries in value of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/620">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► franchise yes well I mean they all come at like Beckham came here to make his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/624">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► money I'm sure he mad but he sort of like you know he's like an A Rod type or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/627">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► its and I don't mean that to be disparaging to a bit but where his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/634">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► celebrity for extended beyond sport yeah you know that he had opportunities that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/638">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► were beyond just as soccer playing ability well I don't know if we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/643">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► do any research says Richard really talk more about soccer podcast with both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/649">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► us they don't really like soccer the fans are going well but the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/654">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► to me is interesting though in terms of the advertising finding a way is that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/658">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► the Premier League the teams are sponsored these are like that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/661">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► great I forget which team is which but I know that I watched a matter now I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/668">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► tricked into coming months ago and no one had the Emirates Airline airlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/672">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► are big because their international and that they you know the international [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/679">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► appeal of it does makes it a perfect timing right and they just have a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/682">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► instead of having the team name on the Jersey it's a big airline logo Jersey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/686">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► which would you know to an american is crazy like I mean if the Red Sox and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/690">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► Yankees had a big logo somebody some of the company's logo to be discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/694">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► don't even put their player names on the jerseys cheaters Jersey just says to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/700">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► even try it just says to its his number that's all it says I can't even imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/705">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► but that's the opportunity in the nature of the game is such that there aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/714">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► any breaks and so I do like that I like that you can kinda just say ok I wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/720">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► watch the USA play somebody and you you know you only have to give up like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/727">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► know to it throughout exactly two hours and and it just flows like that anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/731">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► but make a prediction you think the US's gonna make it into the elimination will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/740">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► tell you what the only reason I'm watching it all because I have a pool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/744">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► going with some friends whose prize is a Landon Donovan World Cup Jersey for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/747">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► they must have printed these jerseys out before he was the team so we found this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/757">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► on eBay and that's that's gonna be the prize for the winner but so I have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/763">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► losing I have had Germany and Portugal advancing I don't know I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/768">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► played well against Portugal they could have won that game so should have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/774">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► thing I've got Brazil winning the whole thing I go home town I go you know one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/777">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► of the best soccer teams and eventually the rest of that form some kind of match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/781">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► and that terrible handball have you noticed I don't know how much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/786">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► commercials you seen because there are some during that but there's a FIFA add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/791">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► that is a soccer ball like rolling on a field in the field tilts to be seen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/795">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► the short of the just the gist of it is is that it's it's a FIFA added it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/801">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► together we fight match manipulation had to tell the fans like we're fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/806">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► what did you see that near Times story couple weeks ago South Africa right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/817">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► you know just took like a cash deposit of $120,000 the bank that have been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/826">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► six hours later was reffing a match right making suspicious call no no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/830">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► attempt to hide it even the whole thing is broken and well and that it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/838">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► fact that they picked the referees via international diplomacy where it's hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/846">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► we need a guy from this part of the country world this part of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/851">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► this part of the world as opposed to ranking them which is how at USC sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/855">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► typically are done like in the NFL for the playoff games there there's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/863">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► systematic analysis of which referees were the most accurate in the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/867">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► season and those rafts get to ref playoff games and I think it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/872">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► in baseball I think that there's like a veteran teams at least I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/877">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► it's but if your team is because you've done well right and one thing you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/881">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► definitely say from major league baseball is for all the problems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/886">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► they've had over the decade one thing is that there's never really been any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/890">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► of implication of other yeah you can complain about but it's never in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/894">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► of bias or fixing matches know you just think they're inconsistent with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/903">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► strike zone or just a lousy umpire but never accredited Buyer they had they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/908">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► truly have an impeccable you know hundred you know century-long reputation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/913">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► or corrupt ability yet being impartial and you take that for granted when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/918">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► put an ad on its hard to keep this let's move on and i i i said i had a time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/926">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► I wasn't gonna get into it and I'm not into it but I'm still watching it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/939">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► don't talk about it was alright one last thing I thank God they got rid of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/943">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► goddamn noisemaker israelis' the app you can cut this but those are great for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/948">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► company because there was a plugin called Google acts and it was an audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/955">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► plug in the leg you cut out the sound of vuvuzelas and audio hijack pro work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/960">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► these plugins of people were using this plugin to to remove the author [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/964">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► buzzing noise in the background no reason to cut it I don't mind if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/969">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► access fantastic you know it was so annoying that it doesn't surprise me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/982">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► the least that somebody took the time to play well but I mean that was like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/988">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► african things I guess they don't have that Brazil I don't know what they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/992">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► there but nothing quite so they've apparently bandit yeah they do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/995">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► that they're telling you as you coming to the stadium that if you're caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1001">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► well I like we've done with the place the the studio here it's slim down its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► sparse you change it up a little bit the set looks different I was looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► the talk show page now versus I think I was on some time last year you got rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► of the wood paneling you got rid of the morphism if you well toned it down to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► flat grey thank you very nice to see this where I just think it is like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► late breaking news before we started recording that the FAA's but the next on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► well which didn't i mean the drones didn't exist anyway or you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► as if this was like they're in the air right now and they're calling them back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► because of this man I you know I read that article it indicated that this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► something that the FAA had already attempted to ban right I guess so I i it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► occurred to me when Amazon announced this was months ago was it last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► earlier this year it it occurred to me that just seems like this it's a cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► idea and I could see how in the future this you know this this could be a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► but it's got to be there's got to be some regulatory structure here we you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► can't just have anybody wants to willy nilly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► r right especially propeller driven little yeah right right well I mean even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► when they announced that they said this was i mean they announced it and made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► big you know it got a big PR cry and that was what they wanted but it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► as if they announce it like coming in six months they said this is coming in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► several years once we deal with the FAA and so this this story now doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► really I don't think it really changes anything for Amazon it just sorta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► clarifies that no you cannot just started to run right it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► happening next week you're not you're not getting drunk deliveries within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► next few months at least just fits to me though with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► to a lesser degree at Amazon but it's Google's amo to me is to just announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► crazy shit that's not even close to being real and get people excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► it and to me it just just tracks from the best of what's really real right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► being announced well I for Amazon I think it's probably actually pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► effective because it says oh they're really focused on delivery and even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► they can't do this yet I should still buy stuff from them because it was only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► it was an ancillary thing it wasn't as if I mean probably some people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► have ordered stuff just to get a drone delivered to them I probably would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► but I would but I mean it wasn't as if they said you know this is the service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► they said you know we're working to make shipping on what you by as fast as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► possible so it's not as if they were actually selling the drug delivery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► whereas I think you're right in terms of Google there's a lot of stuff that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► pre announcer announced when it's you know sort of half baked and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► something that you might actually want to buy directly but either is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► like Google glasses then with this year they've had a couple like anyone can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► it days right now but for the most part still 1500 bucks which is much more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► a plan to charge for it and for the most part it's just been available to select [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► developers so it's something that's in the public consciousness but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► actually available to the public so you know we're recording this day I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► one day but you know it could be you know by the day or two from now there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► a big new Google glass announcement were you there a they've radically drop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► price or be they've got a new generation of hardware that's that's less obtrusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► and significantly improved who knows but I don't really expect well but even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► if they even if that's true and it may well be but you know it's been a year at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► least a year plus since it first has landed and people two years two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► right and you know it just it doesn't really exist as a product it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► product you can go to the store and buy and that's strange to me I think your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► comparison is generally gonna beat Apple where you don't hear anything about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► until it's either in the stores or its gonna be in the store is very soon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► in a form that is exactly as promised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► right they did pre announced the iPad iPhone 5 for the exception but even that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► nothing that they pronounced I mean was there anything that was missing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► no in fact it was better because they switched from plastic glass like a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► before and which to me is one of those like secret like little overlooked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► historical things where it's like can you even imagine being Tim Cook and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► like you're trying to get this super high profile thing shipped from China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► and like Steve Jobs comes in as I hey plastic know I've got these guys from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► Corning under and I think we can switch the glass and it's like may take six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► weeks before you supposed to ship that thing and somehow he made it how was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► that I mean to you I don't have it was six months it's ridiculous well it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► definitely after January one of the books might have had that may be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► the Jobs biography had the story maybe it was like April or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► but like you said two dozen at any point between January and June right into his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► final right it was like the most important part of the phone it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► book thing that was most different and original and new switch from plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► hard plastic to grill a glass and the apps got better in some ways right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► there were a couple of days it was better than promised and then two months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► after that when they dropped the price it even came down in price right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► so yeah bye bye in in that first generation it wound up being better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► they had originally promised which is something they never do anyway as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► originally announcing something before it's available right like whereas the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► opposite would have been if they'd promised it was going to be guerrilla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► glass and promised it was gonna be $3.99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► shipped it and it was credible plastic and 69 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► well and I'm also reminded of this showing these these concepts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► conflating between concepts and reality with this thing I saw the weekend and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► linked up about the armband Google gesture right it was this video and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► Mashable linked up his own Israel in a couple Android sites picked it up after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► Mashable and what it really was was just a student exercise from get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► advertising school and start to Berg School of Communication and as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► student who made a video of a fake Google product called Google gesture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1435">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► we'd put his arm band on and it would translate sign language to verbal speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► in real-time which is fantastic given that it doesn't you know Google has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► great text to speech speech to text but it still isn't quite as real-time has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► what they were for this sign language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► always though it was it had nothing to do with Google there did not engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► students they're not working with computer science project their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► advertising it was just an exercise to say like make a fantastic product and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► then make an ad for it right but Mashable review went with it is those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► sites and I feel like you no shame on them for not looking at a little harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► the signs are all there that this was not real but it's still to me is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► little telling know that that they got full because it's it's you know Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► tends to announce stuff that's not really right right what was the last the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► last sentence was no no shipping date for the app has been announced in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► the massively and the National Peace right right well I don't know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► mean that happens with it doesn't happen in the same way with Apple but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► all sorts of writing about Apple about the iWatch that's coming and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► written as if this is a certainty and as if Apple has already announced it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► yeah absolutely think I'd I brought it up with mark Gurman a couple weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► when he was on the show that thing that gets me is the way those articles are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► always accompanied by a visual marker from some random you know designer on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► Flickr or dribble or wherever right and and there's a tiny little credit to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► a name but it doesn't really say it never says this is just a crazy mock-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► that is unrelated to the rumor that were published it just goes well with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► story but don't take it as as fact or even as as anything in fact there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1554">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► one a couple weeks ago doesn't really matter which side it was but it was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► of these sites like 9 to 5 Mac and it wasn't mr clemens 49 of 50 min somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► else but it was a story about her nephew was a German I don't know it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► matter but it was about this thing where that Iowa State is rumored to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► fall when new iPads come out that there's gonna be split screen mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► between multiple apps to ads before the developer's conference or after after ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► but then they did right and mentioned at the conference so we're assuming it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► not happening right and and somebody poking around Iowa State bader had found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► some stuff that's in there that there is there's these you know we can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► come back to this later in the show but these different screen mode two-thirds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► one-third to one-half one-half and so this article was described in what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► actually in the I was beta hidden which isn't much we still don't really know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► like the actual interactive like what is the actual how are you doing wrong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► in the meantime they had an illustration showing something completely from Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► somebody from months ago just speculation and the rumor came out or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► match what was being described but yeah it was done in a very highly detailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► visual style that conveys a sense of authority and a of reality as if this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► real right like it would be different it would be stupid they wouldn't do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► like if somebody who is not really an artist like me to keiko field notes no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► point hands and just did like a simple sketch on artistic just a pen on paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► instead it's sorta like the couple of rectangles in an era that would be one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► thing but did these completely flush down India's yeah like a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► articulated in Photoshop ideas and it drives me nuts you know every and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► can find hundreds of these stories about the iWatch accompanied by these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► illustrations makes me crazy we tell you about take a break up talk about our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1694">TS</a>]
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00:28:25 ◼ ► sponsor never before sponsored the talk show a company called Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1705">TS</a>]
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00:28:38 ◼ ► alright this is a fantastic company gonna love this guy here this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1718">TS</a>]
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00:28:56 ◼ ► platform makes it fast and easy to create a very very professional website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► and it could be any sort of website they have all sorts of templates for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► pre-existing ideas like a portfolio site if you're an artist who wants to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► off your work and online store to sell Andy Carroll all the really hard stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1749">TS</a>]
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00:29:30 ◼ ► level if you want to inject Iran JavaScript or just the CSS or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► but if you don't know Javascript or you don't know CSS you can do the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► thing through drag and drop in a very visual intuitive way and it all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► works now plans start at just eight bucks a month and includes a FREE domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► name per year they have twenty-four seven tech support and live chat live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1789">TS</a>]
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00:30:02 ◼ ► I'm assuming that Portland Oregon could be Portland Maine it finds me but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► going gets a different timezone different timezone responsive design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► everything they do looks great from phones to tablets too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► 30 in cinema this ways you can start a trial with no credit card required you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► don't get my credit card first and then cancel it if you decide to do it you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► start with no credit card and start building your website today here's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► you do go to Squarespace dot com slash Gruber and you can use the offer code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► JDG just my initials John Gruber J G and you'll save 10% off your first purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1839">TS</a>]
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00:30:51 ◼ ► and that way they know you're coming from the talk-show ninth Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► what's interesting is actually views offer code pique my initials you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► eleven percent so it's up to you which one you want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► I mean is that sounds like a great idea for a service from sponsor what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► were we were talking about Amazon so they were there last week they announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► the Amazon fire phone right did you see that I didn't see the event a song I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► one of the summaries of it I did you actually watch the event now I didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► was a little bit and the day they do seem to do a nice job but I I was busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► at the time and then I just read all the highlight it didn't seem like there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► two hours of stuff well record it it was just the phone right that they cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► anything else I think they had some some boilerplate up front just talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► you know how many how successful Prime is right in our grass with no label the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1914">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► axes and so it's quite as it was last year but who knows what it was last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► right well I would only half joking I did I took a screenshot of one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► graphs showed like total number of Prime members over the years and it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► steeply sloping upwards charters no label on the y axis y no label and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► only half joking I asked if Amazon had ever published a ground with a labeled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► why access all they had that the x-axis is labeled in years and Y axis is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► completely unable I don't think that they have and I know that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► they've never once announce sales figures for any hardware device that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► right for the candles and the public and the TV one they've done now they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► there all fire something now aren't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► Kindle means reader and fire means like everything else except the Kindle Fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► is a reader as well i mean the phone no no the Kindle Fire tablet like it don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► they call it the yeah but that it combines Kindle and Kindle Fire right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► its Amazon Kindle Fire is a tablet that the reader and fire I guess fireman down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► during yeah I think you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► fire means they're they're offshoot of and it's so it's a good thing then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► fire phone is just there and ride off shoot for the phone and then fire TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► used their Android offshoot for watching video and playing games or whatever your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► team against an innovative games and now they do they do that was that was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► the first ones that shipped with its you could you could buy it with a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► controller and that was that was where people said like the Apple TV so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► know you could buy it went on the run around and play games on it and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► was a fire TV had I think the default model did never control over you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► buy an additional controller with it I don't know if that ever took off it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► only been a few yeah you're right about now so maybe maybe it's not that popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► maybe it isn't and it is not ready you know that's one of the things to the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► know I know people who follow Apple tend to be accused of favoritism or or or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► like in the sport to go back to the sports analogy that we're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► complaining about the rest right we always perceived that the refs are out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► to get us but I can't help but think that if Apple had announced at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► time and Apple TV update with a game controller and it had taken off to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► extent that Amazon's has taken off which is to save apparently not much at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► that they'd be getting excoriated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► and that Tim Cook would need to be fired and etcetera etcetera go for another try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► anything well I don't know somehow apple and abalone seems to not be given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► permission by the business press some of the tech press to just try things right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► right and there's snide remarks about Apple TV as a quote unquote hobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► whereas it's clearly more you know and I think by that it just means it's not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► big a deal financially as the other things that Apple does like the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► well i mean that that originated I think it was Tim Cook who said that wasn't or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► jobs but that came from Apple or maybe study well as one of the game while Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► was still alive I don't know if it was his words are Tim Cook's words while but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► steve is still the same right and and yet and they said you know this is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► of a hobby for us and then it becomes the the way the press writes about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► while I actually remember when they did the first Apple TV silver and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► hard drive yeah and they even it was sort of semi pre-announced they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► gonna call it I TV shows the same time as the iPhone it was just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► what's really at the end of the AV the iPhone announcement was the same keno [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► I'm like 99% certain on that he was like I don't even know what we're gonna call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► will call it a TV they had no they decided to the Apple TV but he kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► calling it the ITV cuz he said that's why you shouldn't go with a code name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► that like I do remember that it was it was internally they'd call that the ITV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► and then kept slipping when he was referring to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► one reason that they have heard that the reason they couldn't use that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► because there's a big TV network in BBC ITV and it just wasn't worth it like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► guess they could maybe use that name elsewhere around the world but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► anyway I did there was introduced as a hobby was I we don't really know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► we're doing this but we can it's it's it's interesting enough to ship and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► can watch movies and TV shows on it but I can't help but think that if they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► a game controller already and had games for Apple TV and it was you know had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► gone nowhere yet you'd be here which isn't you know right you hear about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► well let's talk you want to talk to him Code Red Shirts let's say way right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► to these was I guess it was just one piece about him coconut response piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► right right so their last Sunday this was nine days ago now but last Sunday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► there was on the front page and at the front page of the New York Times front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► page of this Sunday Business section at the New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► times was profiled him coke which interestingly he did not sit down for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► right at one point in the profile they must they spoke to Apple to verify some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► things but they said you know Tim Cook who declined to be interviewed for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► for this piece yeah but they open it with like an anecdote or personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► anecdote from his child raid which makes it seem as though he had talked to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► for the article but in fact they took the anecdote from beach or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► that he gave rate they gave at Auburn University within the last few years but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► then they just sort of to meet the little disingenuous i mean that way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► it's really the way that it opens anyway it it it relatively quickly admits you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► know we did not interact with him directly for this so it's not as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► they're certainly not framing the whole thing as as if he had spoken to them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► you're right that the the intro does make it seem a little bit like he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► the headline is Tim Cook making Apple's own I'll be sure to put it I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► always keep up with the show notes but I'll make sure to define a trick tour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► channel of Japanese Haiti iPhone back when he wrote for wired but the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► thing that's interesting so Tim Cook did not speak to them for this profile but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► they got a huge interview they did speak to johnnie I've for the same was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2335">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► same profile they had spoken yes ok I guess I didn't really last night so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► guess I didn't know didn't see that that was the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► yeah so they did get Jony ive which if anything is the bigger did you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► well I think Tim Cook windup speaking certainly doesn't speak a lot to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► press but he speaks more often and Jony ive does well so but so it was johnnie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► I've speaking almost exclusively about Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► wasn't him talking about his own work of his own you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► experiences that Apple has him sort of buttressing their claims about Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► or or responding to some of their claims about him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► johnnie here's a quote from the article Jony ive the Head of Design at Apple in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► name nearly is adored by his followers that Steve Jobs says Mr Cook has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► neglected the company's central mission innovation here's the quote honestly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► don't think anything's changed people felt exactly the same way when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2395">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► working on the iPhone it's hard for all of us to be patient it was hard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► Steve it is hard for 10 so I feel it's a pretty strong statement that's Jony ive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► putting his personal stamp of approval on the the the tempo para ya and saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► honestly I don't think anything's changed right at least with regard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► Apple and its and I word innovation was interesting that so yes he was he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► interviewed for part of this it was really to sort of outreach team could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► write exactly as if presumably put him forward to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► yeah because if anything there's more credibility there than Tim Cook vouching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► for himself right absolutely right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► take take this sort of and i know its a loaded word objectivity but take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► objective person stance of ok forget whether it apple and Tim Cook in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► particular but a company's CEO and is he replaces a very successful predecessor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2455">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► who founded the company the CEO's claims he himself is doing it almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► meaningless right it's it's not you know we laugh but it's like well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► you're gonna say you helped write it means alot more when somebody who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► his own what was there before and who's there now definitely right and his has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► and has earned an enormous amount of credibility right and has credibility to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► lose an enormous amount of credibility lose badges for him so it's you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► could see why Apple PR wise would would strategize such and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► everybody went along with it that they would have johnnie speak instead of 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► right given instead of both the thing that I thought was interesting was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► was a mention of so right now there's this idea sort of in the ether that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► Apple hasn't had any innovative products and Steve Jobs died right after last one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► was the iPad which was 2010 he died in 2011 as I think and you know they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► haven't even sitting on our hands since then and you know the fairly obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► response is that innovative products don't come every six months every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► it's you know the Mac the iPod in 2001 the iPhone in 2007 than the iPad in 2010 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► so even if you think it accelerated I think that's fairly quickly gentlemen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► really we're talking about a handful of truly game-changing products that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► should expect there to be multiple years maybe even decades between them but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► iPad Mini is sort of the counter to that it maybe that's one where it's at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► semi innovative in terms of ramping up sales at least and what was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► in that piece was that it said that this was a product that Steve Jobs didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► think we'd find a market and since then it outsells the full-size iPad I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► think it gave a number but vastly outsells it right I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► vastly but they did say that it outsold and I thought that was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► because it wasn't it doesn't break that down although you can kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► extrapolate some of it from an average they do say how many total iPad they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► sell per quarter and they do give an average selling price and given that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► iPad Mini has always been significant sure that you know you could see from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► the downward shift in average selling price that it's clearly been successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► but it was you're right though that they do give Tim Cook not just like credit as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► far as Steve Jobs didn't want to make this product and therefore you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► didn't under him and Tim Cook took over and then he said you know what we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► going to make this and you know that's that's release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► it's never been been promoted that way but that's to me almost really the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► major Tim Cook product that had apparently really just literally would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► not have happened under Steve Jobs right and it's also a very interesting product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► me operations wise because I still think it's an enormous success you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► Apple is a company of patterns and you can kind of pick up on the annual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► patterns of their development and make you know without any kind of sources and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► all that Apple it's a pretty good guess that there's going to be at least one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► new iPhone later this year it's gonna have a new system on a chip called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► age right i mean got the very least there's gonna be a new iPhone as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► the chip like what do you think like 90% chance on that I would say at least 90% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► chance it is going to be in a because there's been an 84 85 86 87 for the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► four years ever since they introduced the one with the AFL which I totally you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► know 99.99 that there's gonna be a new iPhone and then maybe just slightly less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► anyway doesn't matter as you're saying patterns that they were four years at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► this point right and so to me that thing is most interesting about the iPad Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► is the first one that was introduced in 2012 was like a year behind the big iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► it was a year behind it was still on a five when the big iPad gone to the A six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► it was not right agenda of the retina display and so I expected that in 2013 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► that it would still be one year behind it might go right now because the iPad a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► gun-running before that it would have they shipped right which is how they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► know how they in other ways you know how they kept the prices are much lower than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► but it it like skipped easier it to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► engineering and went all the way from an 859 retina device to top of the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► and not thicker like the original iPad work right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► kept the tell us that long battery life and read and went to the a 70 mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► like there's a tiny last risk you have to insert there because it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► clock speed is like five percent slower than the iPad I don't think I was aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► yeah but it's it's really really like it it's not even just an asterisk tiny tits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► effectively they effectively brought it up to the same level as they as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► full-size iPad instead of keeping right in a year when the full-size iPad had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► tremendous year big jump in terms of the thickness and width and battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► which is amazing and to me that's just all Tim Cook and Andy here that this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► know that you know he'd been a proponent of the many sides all along I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► know seems like the guy gets credit both the operations and for the meeting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► market demand right well the thing that I think before I say this I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► stipulate that I do well and some apple stock but the thing that I can't ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► really get behind in these articles is talking about growth and I'm not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► I'm not some sage investor I don't really know what I'm doing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► everything talks about how Apple's growth has slowed and thats percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► growth rate right but why is that the metric can someone explain to me why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► know if you go from being I don't know how big they were 10 years ago but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► weren't that big to either the biggest her second biggest you know top five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► biggest companies in the world why is that not enough and why do you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► continue growing beyond that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► well and I would even say the flip side that where they did have in the crazy go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► go early years 2008 2009 2010 high rain where they did have crazy like 40% 30% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2876">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► year-over-year growth who thinks though that once you are the biggest company in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► the world that you can poverty or 40% growth is it's it's it almost is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► impossible I know this is not really the law of big numbers but it's what Pete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► some people use that phrase which is simply means once you're that big you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► can't grow at 30 or 40 41 billion in sales to two billion as a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► percent growth but to do to 24 billion is obviously not as easy as 1224 and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► the numbers get bigger and bigger that becomes more difficult when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► literally the most profitable company in the world not just probable tech coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► but most profitable companies seven or eight percent growth year over year in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► profits is and it's huge numbers of billions of dollars that everyone's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► shouldn't say everyone but wall street or investors or you know whoever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► seems so focused on the percentage growth and I just look at these numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► and I think like okay they made you know twenty billion dollars last quarter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► seems pretty good to me you know I found in particular which is the biggest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► most profitable by revenue and profit line at Apple has is in a fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► market which is phones because for the most part there's an upper cap on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► many phones are gonna be in the world which is one phone for every adult or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► even close to adults aged person I mean unless you've got your daytona [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► International right which is an exception and you know there's obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► a lot of very elderly people who are not going to buy it now I'm just kidding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► dialogue and there's no children I guess you know really young children are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► typically not gonna get an iPhone right and it's not a good that people trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► them in or or upgrade but it's not a good that expires in any way at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► not in terms of months it's the world population seven billion so let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► there there's truly a hard cap at around three billion phones in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► let's say three or four why not you know and you know you can cut off large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► swathes of those people for not having the financial have enough money to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► an ivory is not gonna happen where they live in a place where there still isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► iPhone has already peaked in it can sell more but it's it's actually if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► at the numbers that have actually sold its remarkably close to they've sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► about as many as they could have hoped to at this point and they've got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► expand an interesting in new ways and wait for the world to catch up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► you know it's it's truly they've done almost as well with the iPhone as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► as you possibly could write like if you said in 2007 when it came out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► what's the best case scenario for the next seven years it almost it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► as though that they've they've hit that they've they've you know they've done as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► well with it as they possibly could have its elected to do and they were having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► thirty or forty percent growth that lead over the years where they were expanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► to new carriers around the world I mean it's this is the thing that debuted on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► one carrier one country in 2007 and because of the nature of the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► day control the customer experience and that you know it's so different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► than what the carriers expect or want you know it was a relatively slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► rollout around the world and that's what made the growth possible is that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► are these countries with it hadn't been sold except like on the grey market and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► in their debut and they could you know it would allow for this tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► growth worries that type of grow its just not feasible to expect that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► and then in that same piece there was a quote from I forget who was it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► really matter some other investor or some analyst and I wrote this down as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► said he thought Apple no longer had the juice to create the world-beating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► product it needs and so let's let's I can even I can't even say you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3129">TS</a>]
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00:55:21 ◼ ► outside the one large waves outside the CEO's control that you know judge them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3321">TS</a>]
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00:57:45 ◼ ► lot of investors believed not that Tim Cook was in a t-shirt that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► investors thought he was in a t-shirt right it's not proof that he was its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► proof it's believed he was right but the article came out in June of 2014 when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3472">TS</a>]
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00:58:23 ◼ ► there but was still way over where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► had then and now it's back up so that the only way you can use it as a cudgel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► against him is to ignore what happened after you know you've got is still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► stuck at like late 2013 when it was depressed it's actually the stock now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► it's not a good example of problems with him up and then the last well there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► two things I wanted to talk about in the article but the last thing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► article I thought was weird to comparison oh yeah maybe wasn't at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► to keep it safe they found some guys at WWDC who claimed to be you know I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3542">TS</a>]
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00:59:27 ◼ ► the idea that that jobs as Lennon and and Tim Cook is is not Paul McCartney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3567">TS</a>]
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01:00:23 ◼ ► that Mr Cook is being held to at least until he makes enough magic of his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3623">TS</a>]
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01:01:25 ◼ ► they say that's something Steve would have done whereas the times could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3685">TS</a>]
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01:05:25 ◼ ► argument a lot more than than the flip side that they didn't really seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► have any quotes from anybody who backs his leadership on on those concerns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► right dad quotes from the people who are against it and nothing from the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► for it but that was a little well I mean including Tim Cook declined to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► interviewed so that's gas but I thought that was a little weird and then there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► was this weird thing where they were comparing apples charitable giving to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► microsoft word out the math on that as well I believe that to you you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► well I just got you know I did a mental calculation on it and it was something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► like you know under Cook Apple has increased their charitable giving in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► their matching of employees charitable giving and I i dont remember the numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► it doesn't matter you can look it up in the article basically it says something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► like in the past two years fifty million has been donated but in the past two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► decades Microsoft has donated like over a billion yeah that's exactly it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► it's over two decades microsoft employs donations inclusive of the courthouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► donated a billion dollars since 1983 so today right and so if you if you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► for three decades right 93 S three decades you do the math like it worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► out that yeah Apple might not have you know might not be doing quite as much on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► average as much loved it over 20 years but in the past two years the numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► are way up and it doesn't really make sense to compare twenty years worth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► donations to two years when they've just started this program out the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► the math on it seemed it was just it was it was an apple in orders comparison to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► use a phrase that doesn't work that well for Apple but it didn't make sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► as I was reading well if you divide a billion over 30 years from Microsoft is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► 33 billion million a year 33 million a year and they're saying Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► donated 50 52 years so it's in the ballpark now there's inflation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► adjustment etc where 1983 dollars are worth less so maybe Microsoft has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► giving you know more but still there in the ballpark when you look at it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► way and its new its they've recently gotten into the ballpark so it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► seem to make sense to me to compare it over the past twenty or thirty years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► right and the other thing too that they just tossed out there is though its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► equivalent is that microsoft says that on average it donates $2,000,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► software and software to nonprofit which is great that's better than not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► better than not doing it but let's face it that's that's valuing office at like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► nine hundred dollars or something which nobody rice right it would be great if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► donated software to nonprofits but it's not the same thing as a program about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► donating money to nonprofits you know and two million sounds like a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► it would be a lot for rogue amoeba or Q branch to donate two million dollars a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► ride yet used in the day a lot of copies of Vesper but from Microsoft is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► especially given the fact that they can you know that the prices they charge for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► just arbitrary not real good just not the same thing as for example donating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► two million dollars a day in the hardware to non-prime right has a fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► costs so it's a weird I thought it was a weird incited comparison yeah I what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► else you got hurt while we were we were talking growth I think he wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► touch on the physical growth of the iPhone where you go that's why so we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► got that the other big story that came out this week and this is nothing new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► this is you know his verifying months-long rumors but that Bloomberg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► yesterday this is Peterborough don't use the word verifying because not verify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► that seroma I don't criticize you i'm talking more about all the sites that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► published the stuff all the time now we've got a slightly more reputable site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► with maybe better sourcing right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► the rumors jim Coleman in Peterborough's reporting for bloomberg Apple's big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► iPhones plural said to start production next month Apple suppliers and China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► will begin mass production of its largest iPhones ever next month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► according to people familiar with the plans as the smartphone maker faces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► increased competition double-blind asked not to be identified because the plans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► are private one model will have a four point seven inch display compared to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► foreign screen of the current try this that may be available to ship to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► retailers around September said two of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► a 5.5 inch version is also being prepared for manufacturing in may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► available at the same time the people said so they're they're saying this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► you know in this is Bryn rumor by various people for a while that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► two new bigger iPhone race this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► 4.7 inch diagonal display and a 5.5 inch there's a lot of the actual we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► easily fill the rest of the show just talking about this I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► understand I don't even understand the aspect that this 5.5 inch version may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► available at the same time they might release this in like january or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► something i mean just talked about 10 minutes ago about the patents that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► they don't release a new iPhone in the middle of the year with a different size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► right I don't get I've never been less excited not excited well I'm not exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► because I'm personally a little I i dont wanna be like I'm out there I'm holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► my phone right now it's it's a four inch screen and it's almost too big to me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► could see how maybe I could I could get used to a four point seven i've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► four point seven devices but that to me seems just the way it seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► annoying 5.25 she knows I know that I don't want I know that I don't it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► seems weird I've never even my personal tastes aside even less say I really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► even if I wanted a huge I just don't understand how it was going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► presented in a keynote where they said you know I could see how they would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4314">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► look everybody wants a big phone here's a bigger eyes I don't understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► they say here's to a bigger iPhone bigger and even more human guests and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► the size that you've grown used to over the last seven years and that is made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► the iPhone them by far you know seventy percent of all the profits in the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► Hansen industry is now right now was the ad that was a big thing is that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► reading this as them saying there will be a four point seven and a 5.5 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► that's it and that's all I've ever seen rumored I've never seen from any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► these other rumors rumors of a new four-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► current size iPhone well but I question is how would that how would that lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► forces if the size changes it's much more obvious right well part of it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► and and over the last few years the track records been pretty good on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► component leaks out of Asia and what they're showing this year is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► that's more along the lines of the iPads with rounded side have you seen any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► I really don't look at this stuff just cuz I wait till it comes out but a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► of what's come out and and from sources that have been pretty accurate in years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► and as you know and and that got the new iPhone 5 shape and and sent same type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► people who stood you know had like leaks of the gold iPhone are showing I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► four point seven inch in 5.5 inch phones with more or less just think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► smaller iPad or iPad Mini with the rounder sides and those top brands and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► nothing like that is linked with a four page so let's see if you presume now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► obviously this is an enormous if this is the biggest if I could make on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► if we take it for granted that all new iPhone hardware will inevitably leak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4433">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► from the agents applied again that is an enormous if but if we take that as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► assumption then the only way that the four-inch screen stays at the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► and get the aid and new camera and stays at the top of the heap technology wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► wise is if it's going to still be in the current 5s for greater which seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► different if there's two new models that have a new iPad style look yeah I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► possible I guess I don't know but it just seems weird like to me for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► that the way that I just mentioned before that in 2013 last fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► Apple introduced two new iPad the new Mini with Retina and the new iPad air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► and they had the same specs same camera same a seven system-on-a-chip you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► roughly that is just a wish and they also looked like siblings looked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4493">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► the same device trunk up and down well but if you even write so the question is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► are they going to keep a four-inch screen as a sibling a brother to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► existing the new sizes but if your gonna do that if you're gonna change the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► that's gonna present all sorts of manufacturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► his right eye I would go i mean it might make sense to put the new hardware in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► there you know whatever the new chip is new camera whatever but keep the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► case because you've already tooled up all your factories for that current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► four-inch sized case we have but they've never kept the same for factored form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► factor for more than two years the 3G 3G s was two years before forrest was two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► years and the strip 55 s now you know again the fact that that's the pattern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► that they've had ever since you know 3G you know in the original 2007 iPhone was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► the only one that only last year does that mean that it will be so maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► you know maybe this form factor the 55 s form factor is like their Porsche 911 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► you know we don't need to change it you know this is this is the way up to four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► inches of phone books and theirs and it doesn't look dated it looks too looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► great I mean ultimately what we'll see in three months I would guess September [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► because it's it's been September four ever since they moved it to the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► and then october is for iPads and perhaps the watch or whatever else they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► gonna do but I would guess the phone gets its own event in September I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► said to you I said the interesting thing to me was not the physical size growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► because I'm as i said im pretty happy with the current physical size I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► interested to see a storage space increase in the device yeah absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► and nobody has any kind of rumors about that well again I guess is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► something that would even leak because you know they already make a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► twenty eight gig iPad so the the storage already exists in that size how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► different would the with the physical you know the case with need to be any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► different just put a little more storage they send their role in yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► think so I don't think 228 chips would be bigger and along the same lines I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► would really really I think it's almost over do at this point like to see more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► RAM ok because they've they've been one gigabyte of RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► for a while now 5 I think the five you know and in that tick tock strategy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► every two years they they take bigger leaps forward I would really like to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► him go to 2 gigabytes on that do you do you think you notice a lack of RAM less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► so than used to but I still get those you know the most noticeable in Safari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► ok tabs that I know I have open and up how you learn and you know it's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► nature of the phone where I use it on cellular more than any other device and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► therefore if I'm out on cellular sometimes you know it's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► inconsistent networking wise and reloading it often takes you no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► than you'd like right what was I mean with storage space it's very obvious if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► I wanna put all of my music on there I can't do it whereas with Ram it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► of a nebulous you know as you said some days I support it needs to reload but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► the added that is that is I guess one of the one of the obvious ways you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/4711">TS</a>]
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01:31:01 ◼ ► layout is to web design work sent out of whatever the screen sizes it'll still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► work and look as if it was made natively for that size right and that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► switching from a a model where there are two sizes you need to worry about iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► size and iPad size and horizontal and vertical land and then a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► asterisks for iPhone because they're still older ones that have a 3.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► instance that have a four inch but they really just added pictures to the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► they didn't really create a new everything stayed exactly the same size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► they just just got told I just got all our they're switching to a system where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► there's these one-third with half with four with two thirds with and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► like the iPhone is considered a one-third and so it just seems pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► without saying hey we might do this they're telling you that your apps you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► watch the everybody should watch the State of the Union and they they talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► about this and it's it's interesting both in terms of thinking about how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► might work as you know user and developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► how might you know but it's also interesting as anybody's ever spoken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► publicly as careful with their words to to look at the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► yeah it and they do it pretty well but you can it's so hard it will make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► laugh it's really kind of funny I almost feel bad for him and then there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► whole session haven't actually watched it yet but it's building adaptive apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► with you i cant section 216 and the thing that's interesting too I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► feel like this hasn't really gotten through to everybody at there's no NBA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► this year I like everybody can just go to develop at apple.com or just google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► WWDC 2014 videos it's easier but its / videos / 2014 and have all the videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► from WTC and you don't even need an 8th ATC account you don't have to login you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► just click the video you want and start watching it so everybody you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► have to sign up for a developer can you can just go watch session 21 sex and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► talk and see them talk about it I had a note that I wanted to mention that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► interesting it's interesting that the NDA has been lifted all this and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► just before the conference talked about how there can be access to bases of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► OS but as a developer it's tremendously annoying to have even more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► running a bit OS that's interesting that I you know I thought occurred to me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► it's yeah I thought about that but as my personal interest is a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► accurate we're still iOS only and I was not having a public beta whereas at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► almost all Mac and/or couple have something for them but it's but for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5634">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► most part though the company had him a company with it with some toes depth any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► I was poor and you have people running a public beta of yourself right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► people always did this who I don't wanna say shouldn't have but you know didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► and it was always a little bit of a of a struggle because you know we have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► we're not there yet we're working on it but if you need your stuff to work on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► don't wanna bado as I mean that's just good advice in general right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► definitely good advice into anybody out there who's thinking about participating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► in the Yosemite public business you know what I mean if you not where I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► saying don't do it I'm saying though you've gotta take responsibility and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► you've got to take responsibility for what and the more people that are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► it the more emails were gonna get that say you know this isn't working whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► and we want to support these people as soon as we can but we also have limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► resources and and so I don't know if this I don't know this will help Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► or not because I think they had pretty good testing both internally and from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► developers in previous years so I'm not really sure what they're striving for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► with this sort of change to open it up a little bit more in theory if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► something as stupid simple that's like really just like a line of code and I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► you know what it is that this thing we could do this and maybe we'll ship a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► point one update and it'll make things run better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► yosemite public beta sure you might do that you could do that it just in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► way that you even if there was no public beta might roll out dates of your apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► over summer if you can work one in the does make things better under yosemite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► you'll do it you might have done it anyway because it'll help you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► you'll be right but you can't run your company you can't support a base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► operating system and that's exactly it and so I said I don't know what Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► hoping to accomplish with this and I hope they do get something out of it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► it's definitely frustrating for us says as developers is ideally your support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► you somebody either when it officially ships out of beta or soon after a wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► day one if possible if not as soon afterwards as possible but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► because once it's out of beta it's a stable tour that the names and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► the thing 22 you make a great point there that right now it's completely all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► over the map and things can change drastically between releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► and trying to track every single one of those changes across weekly or monthly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► releases before it's in the public's hands is not a good way to run a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► right it's you can't target a moving target you could you can try to you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► end up wasting time you know and it could be something like a cosmetic bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► like you know this doesn't look good because it's doesn't render well on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► transparent Sutton and it ends up by the time it ships it's no longer even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5816">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► transparent because they've changed it for two weeks worth of right now anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► and it happen you cannot do it and again I've been there like paving way back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► when I was a bare-bones we went through it with BBEdit on the public beta of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► black with white house but I mean that are you talking 310 point out the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► public betas then those were actually almost releases that's probably a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► example because I think we only had the only way we do we only had a native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► carbon version of BBEdit was internally beta testing we didn't have a public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► beta so but there I remember there being a bare-bones though maybe not the 1000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► but like 10 1 intend to and all you know even before they even the basis of Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► OS nine you know that the various updates to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► we'd get bug reports from people who were running it and it's like thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► filing the bug we do appreciate that report the bug but don't you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► expect us to have this fixed on the schedule that we would for a similar bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► on a shipping version of that BS that's exactly right anyway that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► I'm interested to see how that aspect of it plays out how popular the public well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► i i should mention that it hasn't been a huge issue it's not as if we've seen an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► influx of people running this who shouldn't be or you know but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► haven't started the public 84 yes I mean there is none right now at all don't ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► well then I guess we'll see I'm sort of out of it the first episode you'll know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► in the next episode of the show if I start by apologizing I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► nearly certain that the public beta hasn't started you may well be right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► mean I'm running it on one of my machines but that doesn't mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► I gotta from the developers area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► my hope is that they're waiting for a significantly better I i think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► two babies are actually pretty good for June right you know both Iowa State and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► Yosemite i've i've got machines devices running both here and they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► pretty good for June betas especially compared to past use ya past years the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► June 12 usually been unusual you know how come back to in mid July when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► they've got it did to me they seem like they're ahead of where they've been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► past years but there I wouldn't recommend anybody to depend on in either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► know and there is a big thing is that a lot of a lot of the time the features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► that they've talked about art in there yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► yes that's absolutely wanna rise in sea like how they talked about this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► stuff I want to see it and then you if you install you're not actually gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► see it for another month because it's not there so so I don't know why I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► optimistic that there I'm curious about it though because it does seem it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► seem to be of a piece with this whole Apple you know that they're a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► not ever a radical departure but in a slight shift of course you know Angela [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► Ahrendts had a LinkedIn blog post yesterday on what it's like to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► starting a new job but a new company wasn't particularly revealing that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/5994">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► was right and it was no secret there is nothing gossipy r shocking their notable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► was you know well-written and interesting an interesting perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► but the thing that's most interesting is that senior vice president at Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► posted a here's what I'm up to bottle things right would never have tried not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► just LinkedIn but on any kind of social network of bloggers and being well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► besides when Steve Jobs of blogging on apple.com yeah but even then it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► personal it was right it was two times in the entire history or Apple Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► hear something you've mastered thoughts on music and then thoughts on flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► that's right that was the other one flash yeah how'd that work out but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► have Flash on the iPhone yet you know those people that I somebody email me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► about that the other some reader wanted me to do like a clam chowder flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► because the people who are adamant that it was a sea could never be a success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► without it might seem to have conveniently lost their lost their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► interest in the cause no I don't believe so I I'm more curious are there any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► devices you can go out by the day that have tried to current Android devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► habit or I don't think so I think you'd have to buy like a super low-end Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► phone that's running an ancient version of Android to get it like a two point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► something version I don't think Android supported it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► tire 4.0 virgins and therefore point I was told everybody is given up on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► blackberry still supports it they just had some newfound didn't think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► funny it's funny how hard it is for companies to actually like the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► the candle to actually go out right right ones like to remember the the load [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► sis like lawsuits against UNIX and Linux this is pursuing Linux and UNIX I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► what the deal was that they own some piece of Unix and therefore receiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► limits I think was the deal and these lawsuits went on for like a decade and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► they kept losing them but they kept piling them and it was always a concern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► that you know this is going to impact something like and right where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► actually even if it's not true Linux it's it's built around it and if this if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► one of these lawsuits was successful suddenly somebody might be taking a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► chunk of money out of some big company and yet anyway the point was that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► took over a decade I think before they as he said the candle finally went out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► and they finally gave up and said all right we're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► on and it's a similar thing with blackberry where the company's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► limping along and I mean they must have some money in the bank to the way Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► does not not to that extent but yeah I guess I don't know it's just I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► know I expected something spectacular to have happened by now either like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► out we're turning out the lights and we're sweeps older I you know the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► expected to go as we told ourselves to LG HTC years i dont some somebody like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► that we sold our souls to in our blackberries just a name that's owned by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► this other guy like Napster got sold a couple times that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► yeah but that hasn't happened yet and yet they're coming out with new phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► and it's like I feel sorry for them I don't know anybody still left right they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► don't look terrible but they don't look at least bit competitive with everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► else or you know right like palm just disappeared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► you know that something would happen by now you know the blackberries gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► disappear come down and bought by HP rate yeah I think that think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► where they were no HP wound up with them at some point cause the Tablet size ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► were HP device called the touchpad yeah that's right they have blackberries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6236">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► limping along still in that was then I was surprised to see this announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► this week and last week and I've never looked at the phones but I have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► been interested but it's interesting that they're still able to put something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► but I don't you know you never had just walking around the city and never see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► blackberry posters in the carrier stores anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► anything right you know it's almost like they're not they're going to buy one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► I would guess that most of the ones that are still being sold are like the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► style and not the new with a keyboard vs a touch screen right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► the ones that you know people who are just blackberry diehards who just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► skipped out on the whole iOS and right type computing thing and they just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► a replacement for the BlackBerry that made right which is one reason is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► good business going forward but it never get something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► works and and that it eventually five years you may well want the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► thing right I totally understand that might mean I personally obviously don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6296">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► you know when it comes to phones I don't feel that way but there's other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► in my life that if if it breaks I just want to buy the exact same god damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► keyboard just exactly my keyboard I had the same time but likes for five pairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► of the same stuff you know I don't care what the new sneakers are just give me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► new pair of some bomb right and that's it from my list this week could chil iyo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► I don't want more for you can give you got a topic you got something to sit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► did you see it was last week did you see the announcement of these new emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► emoji oh no oh no I didn't I saw that there were but I didn't see what was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► there's two things actually makes it promotes emoji 2 like a top-level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► keyboard now so instead of by defaults it used to be you had to turn on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► emoji keyboard alright yeah he hasn't there by default for everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6354">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► actually a bit interesting because it indicates Apple feels this is part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► the culture now the same way like actuation is interesting but where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► there's a smiley but instead of hitting the globe and pulling up other keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► you just hit the smiley button basically but yes the last week the standard got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► released for like 240 250 new emoji and the way it works is that each platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► Apple Android Twitter has to then create illustrations for this and and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► part of their OS or part of their platform and I wrote about this today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► but the the the one that I'm very excited about and I'm a little worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► about is there is now going to be a middle finger remote I forget the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► name but it's it's hand with middle finger raised you know they have long I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► i'm looking at your web site now so it's what's it called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► reversed can with middle finger extended and it and it was a hand flippin the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► bird now my concern now is this a question for you is Apple going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► include this now that's a fascinating question is why is why you put pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► fosse's I heard that's a damn good question because Apple you know they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► got the pile of poo in there but at the same time their app stores is fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► restrictive there's no pornography in there there's no risk a content is pile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► of poo is the is the emotive Mohd description pilot is the actual name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► you look in the unit called pile of bills so and so there's no no reason it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► you would have to turn it into a googly eyed smiley face no its not happy face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► it's not happy pile of poo it's not smiling face literally just pile of poo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► it could be an ugly ranked smelly with flies buzzing rounded yeah like that'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6476">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► still a little stinker is coming out of a pile of poo and instead it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► very happy you know your your your doctor is going to be very happy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► yeah you're eating well you take care of yourself you know but so that the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► is that you know their restrictive in some regards and then not in others but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► this is a standard and they the the what's interesting is that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► talking a couple months ago about introducing diversity into the emoji and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► they wanted to have basically the whole lot of white people in the emoji which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► is interesting because it comes from Japan so it's a little strange but Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► said you know we want to have other other races represented in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► they said they might just do it themselves and they can take instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► like smiling elderly person they can make that a smiling elderly person of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► different race so I don't know you know they have the authority on their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6536">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► platforms to make this not quite a middle finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► and I'm worried that I'm gonna have to switch to Android if this happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► reversed and with middle finger extended well I mean can you make can you draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► that in a way that follows that guideline without it being a middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► yea well look at that you're obviously not an emoji lawyer I actually have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► GED an emoji law so reversed and you do need to show the back right hand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► middle finger extended does need to be extended but there's no reason you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► have another you toss up another finger and it's it's not incorrect and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► suddenly I'm not flipping the bird I'm giving them a peace sign right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► yeah exactly or or box I know that that is one of the new ones that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► thought when I call that that's already that's a long and prosper I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6593">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► you could officially comply with the description by putting another finger of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► their I'm worried I'm worried John that's a good question they got to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► the right thing here they gotta give me the middle think you know it would fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► with wouldn't comply with the description at all but it would fit with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► previous frustrations with similar curse words in in prose if they just replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► it with a picture of a dark ride you would go to insert the SIM oda nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► that's my guess my guess is they're just going to put a picture of the son of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► this is great now I'm on pins and needles to see how this turns out it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6654">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► could be months we don't know the way the standard where it gets announced and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6657">TS</a>]
01:51:00 ◼ ► then they implemented over time so I don't know if it'll be part of Iowa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6660">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► SEDAR iOS nine but I'm eager to see it and I hope we get what we're what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► deserve to know if there was any controversy over this you know i i didnt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► not that I saw it it's a standards body that you know the the companies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► comply to the standard still have a lot of leeway rather so if you look you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► things look different on different platforms so go with no think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► not going to do it i mean they did pile of poo though would there be a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► they would add a parental control that you know she keep her in a while but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:41 ◼ ► thing is that if you don't know what it means that it's just a middle finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6701">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► sticking up right i mean it's not do they have other fingers can you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:48 ◼ ► every single finger of the mean there's already pointing fingers like pointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6708">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► with the pointer finger and hand up and down and I don't know if there's one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:57 ◼ ► every finger I don't think there is but I mean like you could just tell your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6717">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► kids this is this means one like i mean that's probably a bad lesson to teach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz--8q4/6721">TS</a>]