00:00:00 ◼ ► a very special week for you you're now under door for both Google and Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/0">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► very cool as low as a by the time this episode airs at all of them last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/6">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► cooler in the future that also thanks to Facebook for sponsoring this week dan is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/14">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► referring to last week's during fireball our street bouncer which was Google who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/20">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► took the spot to advertise job openings for their iOS apps which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/24">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► actually a fantastic sponsorship I think that I think that there I hope they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/31">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► well get some good care if they get one good candidate out of it they'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/36">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► delighted yeah it's actually really smart and I'm actually surprised more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/39">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► companies haven't been looking at do you know there are job boards like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/43">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► that one that a lot of the sites use but companies like Google and Apple too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/48">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► and all the big tech companies spend so much money on recruiting it's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/55">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► funny so and it's much more because it's really they all had all say that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/58">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► the biggest the one of the biggest problems they have right now especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/65">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► engineers I mean they're willing to buy them for like a million dollars each in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/68">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► these aquifers surely you blog sponsorships here and there are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/72">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► investment but actually it inspired me to get out my old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/77">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► the only Android device in my house which I've actually never used until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/82">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► today it was it's a nexus 7 that I don't even know how I got it but so long had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/87">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► passed between receiving it and trying to use it that it had actually been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/92">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► bricked my guy I i plug it in for a month and it still didn't charge it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/97">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► and then today randomly I'm throwing stuff out and just throw out the stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/104">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► Nexus 7 that never worked and I plugged it in and started charging so who's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/111">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► say I've spent the last six hours during software updates on it and now is ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/117">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► to go so I get to experience the joy of Android four point four I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/122">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► Nexus 7 is the current seven instead as well this one is definitely not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/131">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► it doesn't I don't think it runs the well as a kit kat or something this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/137">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► definitely a few years old so maybe there's a new Nexus 7 but this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/144">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► the first generation but call good stuff we can quibble about our talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/149">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► whole show about what the names of these devices are in the problems of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/158">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► that some of the some of them are named you know right up there with them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/162">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► with the way that they've switched to call an iPad at one point they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► called an iPad now just iPad air and iPad Mini the new iPad right the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/171">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► iPad for a while with Google Nexus they started naming them after their sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/177">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► and the Nexus 7 has a seven-inch tablet which is kind of cool while their new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/187">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► but then gets confusing you know if they come out with a new one it says right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/192">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► here on my Google site says Google Nexus 7 so I presume there been more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/199">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► tablet with the name Google Nexus like yeah I guess you have no idea but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/204">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► funny because Samsung does that with their tablets they do the size but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/213">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► with the phones they do like the Galaxy S five goals in order of number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/219">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► releases like the iPhone so right now I wonder if we'll see the end I wonder you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/225">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► know like for example will there will there be a new phone this year called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/233">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► finally got it to you know yeah she's gonna ask you that too because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/238">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► what is it patch cow's ghee report was a Friday that the earth sometime this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/243">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► now it's two weeks ago what this month sometime in August the report that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/250">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► September is going to be the iPhone event but no you know doesn't say iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/257">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► 6 yeah he would however he get his stuff on events as gold I don't think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/263">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► ever had a bad report I don't think so but wherever that would mean we'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/270">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► to that in a second where that comes from though I mean presumably i always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/276">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► dream he's got somebody with an Apple PR who gives him that stuff but whoever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/281">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► is my guest to but I have no idea however it is isn't getting given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/288">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► name of the product I don't think they ever deliberately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/291">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► name they put the date out there just the sort you know I want out there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/294">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► sort of let everybody know what's coming without actually committing to it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/301">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► they could back out at the last second patch calculate bad but Apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/306">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► really give the name I guess it seems weird now but remember like even the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/310">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► of the iPad launch no one really knew it was going to be calling people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/317">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► doubting that it would be called the iPad no yeah I remember that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/321">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► that was one of the names that had been thrown out because of like a domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/326">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► registration or something like that I think some people came up with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► naturally just because of iPod and iPad seems like a natural thing for pad size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/333">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► device and everybody immediately dismissed it as sounding like tampon or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/341">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► something like a family what was your name it was the the Slater something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/346">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► was an iPad was in class now wasn't class I forgot that I suggest I now now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/354">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► I don't think ahead and I kind of sickly eyes yeah thats I don't remember I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/362">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► actually makes more sense for these things because I was stood for Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/369">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► iMac was the internet supposedly that's how is introduced with the iMac as a as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/375">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► the first Mac go to the Internet age and I think that the iMac was the first I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/380">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► product right it was you know but then again they say it was made for internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/385">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► but then the one that really cemented the deal and was a decade-long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/391">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► the iPod didn't get internet access until the iPod Touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/397">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► had nothing to do with the internet exactly but then my phone if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/403">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► perfectly because that was like the first phone that actually did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/408">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► internet better than it did the phone yeah I think I think what happened no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/412">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► think it's never explained never talked about but like the undercurrent is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/417">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► lower case I capital product name just means Apple product that said yes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/422">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► doesn't really have any other connotation just means Apple product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/431">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► right like ever and ever and caused itouch still yeah maybe that's why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/435">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► that's what I just said the iPad maybe I found an old post but I am I gonna read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/443">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► it while talking to you that's rude I could do that I don't even know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/447">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► it's called the tablet yeah that's what he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/452">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► December 31st 2009 yeah I don't know if I should just sit here in the post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/456">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► well you say I want to know what Apple refers to it as the tablet but so far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/460">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► I can tell thats lol yeah most certainly not the name I had a dream I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/465">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► predicted it would be the iPod Touch H D which was you know not ultimately not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/472">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► that's kind of what it is but that's ultimately now obviously what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/478">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► called it I don't know I don't know you're alright whatever doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/482">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► but speaking of those event dates something weird happened this past week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/489">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► where you like made up you made a typical John Gruber offhand comment you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/496">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► know seemingly knowing comment about some sort of risk device coming next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/503">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► month I was cracking a joke about the Motorola MOTO 271 and the house looks on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/508">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► the side where eighty five major dams 27278 like that and the round at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/515">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► bottom of the circle is cut off but it charges on its side and so when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/523">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► charging it it's like the and watch terms the eight nine and ten o'clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/529">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► side is cut off but for some inexplicable reason even though they cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/536">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► off that part of the circular display they decide to show the charge as as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/541">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► circular meter around the perimeter which which means it's between like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/547">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► seven when you're in between 70 and 90 percent you have no idea whether you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/552">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► in its seventh year now and they're shipping it they're going to ship that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/558">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► pride so I was cracking a joke about that and I said I should actually quoted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/563">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► as I guess it's the exact language I chose which is unfortunate I rode the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/567">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► only way this could get funnier would be if it doesn't even ship until after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/574">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► Apple announces their risk of wearable thing next month and then I miss this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/578">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► a backstory on this is true you know my description of the talk shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/582">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► directors commentary on fireball so here we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/586">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► I posted that this is that was Friday and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/591">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► Orlando Florida after a week or so theme park fun on my way to the airport I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/598">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► don't know either on my way to the airport at the airport when I posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► that and what was your intent you were just goofing around I wanted to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/608">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► if if the the watch the risk thing comes out at next month's event it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/615">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► but motile motorola's promises that it's going to ship in this summer which gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/622">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► them to like September 21st and they haven't announced it yet and i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/626">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► gonna look really really bad as soon as apple unveils whatever it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/631">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► they're working on and I think it's almost certain at this point that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/636">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► is working on something and it's almost certainly is going to be announced this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/639">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► year and if it is announced this year it almost certainly been either in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/643">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► September or October I don't know right and then adding to this was that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/648">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► know if it was published shortly before your poster shortly after but hausky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/654">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► citing sources whatever that it's going to happen in October period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/662">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► wearable yeah I didn't know that I thought June he updated down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/669">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► I thought he posted at like June 6th that it was that they were shooting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/675">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► an October date now maybe there was an old article but I am 22 me like who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/680">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► your money on grouper or we're passing well my my my people seem to think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/685">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► more prescient then then then I am and I know I do know that I have a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/692">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► terrible guilty habit I should really should be guilty about it but I'm not of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/698">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► what I do have information coyly putting it out there without a source as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/703">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► though it's my own speculation comment this is from June 6 the ads from job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/708">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► hunt I got Punk'd and played I thought it was published like the same time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/714">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► your candy and if you read it he didn't say Apple is going to announce it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/719">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► October his June 16 said a police shooting for October release it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/724">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► meaning you know who you know well as June I mean they saw a lot of work to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/730">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► whatever it is that they get that they're working on June means they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/735">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► have a lot of work left to do I write anything and like in the last several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/738">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► years they've had basically the September event and the October event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/743">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► and you know if it's not ready for september you can do in October but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/747">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► it is ready and if it's you know the kind of thing that is being pitched as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/753">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► an iPhone accessory basically and why not show it off in September but well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/757">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► anyway read this if you read the sentence that I wrote I wrote the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► way this could get fun it would be if it doesn't even ship until after Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/765">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► announces their wrists wearable thing next month and I when I wrote that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/771">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► even thought I should probably put something if they announced in September [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/774">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► instead of October or something like something like that yeah but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/778">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► anything like that takes the piss and vinegar out of the joke and I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/785">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► write when Apple announces their risk horrible thing next month cuz if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/789">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► was the clause I was thinking about writing I would have used if instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/794">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► yes Apple announces the responsible thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► so and the whole thing is also further complicated that I was doing it from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/801">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► phone which makes me lazy it does it makes me lazier to rewrite a sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/804">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► whereas if I was at my desk I might you know I did notice that I noticed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/809">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► someone could read that as me saying that they're definitely going to do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/814">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► September that everybody knows that making a joke about the Moto 360 it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/817">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► like a two and a half hour flight from Orlando back to Philly and it happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/823">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► to be a plane with no wifi so I had no idea no wifi there was a hashtag johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/828">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► was his Gruber legendary landed and I get off and it is gone like bananas it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/835">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► was like top of technique John Gruber confirms is gonna be released in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/841">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► September as i no i didnt for Friday's mandate and then you know it's like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/847">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► o'clock on a Friday and I guess I should update and because I didn't say that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/854">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► don't let the other people look foolish for reading too much into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/861">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► yeah and there's too much it was like too much to update because I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/865">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► certain amount not so I'm certain that they're planning to announce it either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/870">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► in September or October I don't know that they will anything can happen at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/875">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► the last minute but I think that they'll have two events just be mainly in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/879">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► is one thing I often forget is even people who like read my stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/885">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► listen to the show important in there so many people who read down fireball and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/891">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► followed tech period but who don't seem to pick up on the varied to me very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/898">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► obvious patterns of Apple as a company that you know I say this a lot I repeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/903">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► myself in this but they're a company of annual patterns and they do break them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/908">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► sometimes you know the iPhone used to be a thing the first few years that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/912">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► out in June or early July very early July and then it switched to becoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/916">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► announced in early September least two weeks later and once they switch that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/924">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► and they've stuck to it ever since and last few years they've had September [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/930">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► event with the iPhone and an October event with the iPad and I just assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/934">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► that they're probably stick to that this year and therefore they've got to event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/941">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► one of the end if they're gonna do the wearable thing they'll have to pick one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/946">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► of those two events 22 you know included on so I you know I don't have anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/949">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► who's told me that I don't know nobody told me I'm just I do think it's very in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/955">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► some ways it makes sense as the other thing too is it's not just that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/960">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► have to pick one of the two events and find time for it but their event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/963">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► typically have like a narrative that runs through them and if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/967">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► announcing more than one thing they figure out some kind of way to tie it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/970">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► together in the show as part of like one story and I kind of feel right like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/974">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► wearable risk thing sounds to me like something I would be easier to tie in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/980">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► with new iPhones then with the iPad yes especially if it requires an iPhone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/985">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► be used right well we can talk about that later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/991">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► that's a question but I do think though that even if you are Lisa goes best with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/995">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► him and others if it's an accessory if it's a $200 iPhone accessory you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/999">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► show it off with the iPhone right and the new iPad's last year came with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► m7 co-processor to but it certainly makes a lot more sense that if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► storyline is about health and fitness tracking right health kids sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► know going out health care expanding from a little ninety second spot during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► WWDC to here's why we're doing this you know ninety minute presentation on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► health and fitness tracking with a bunch of partners etc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► it seems to me like that would fit more naturally with the iPhone and new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► iPhones that also have or I guess maybe having m8 fitness you know activity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► tracker then with the iPad which you know I feel like they concluded the m7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► on the iPad because why not very expensive component but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► tracking your feet based on your iPad is going to give you you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► footsteps is gonna give you a very accurate count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► right yeah I mean if it and if it needs any sort of Bluetooth connection to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► device to sink to that you know your cloud kit right cloud whatever your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► iCloud account is that's most likely going to be an iPhone and an iPad yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► it probably could technically be an iPad but my guess is that the majority of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► people will sync with a knife and further complicating this is Yosemite in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► a complicated and I was clarifying it is Yosemite which last year the Mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► update shipped in October not September and I think they ever for right or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► not I don't know why should I make a note last year did and I know this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► it seems to be tracking behind iOS and mark Gurman 9 to 5 Mac said it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► octave was gonna come in October with its makes a lot of sense and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► doesn't make sense to assuming you know it also even if it were ready just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► doesn't make sense as part of the iPhone event whereas it makes more sense as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► iPad event because iPads and Macs are a little bit more similar overlapping and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► so if they're going to do and that's what they've done the past few years is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► sort of repeat the Yosemite things from WABC you know these 10 features we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► you really want to know about you know some of us who pay close attention and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► remember the WWDC keynote clearly a little bit of a repeat but for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► who have been paying close attention which is you know part of the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► message you know whole point of marketing is to repeat your message to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► get it through that's what they do but I presume that take up a big chunk of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► October event especially if there's a 12 inch paper thin MacBook Air retina ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► yeah but i dont their runs at a chip now is the right time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► which I don't think so I found a post on Business Insider that says quote canvas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► a perfect name for Apple tablet says Apple God John Gruber who may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► written that paper that was me there anyway a campus that was the hindsight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1190">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► that sense stupid that's why they don't have been named but but i pad sounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► stupid to her and maybe called it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► campus I don't know I guess the one thing the one thing about iPad in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► hindsight is somehow makes it feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► sibling to iPhone in a way that if they called it the one thing i phone any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► other thing canvas that they wouldn't seem like there is aligned yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► especially you know with the notion that they're gonna rename iPhone OS to iOS to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► think was that before or after the way before well iPod Touch but yeah oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► but they still call it I they never seemed to hesitated to to to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► clear that the iPod Touch despite its name was an iPhone without ya iPhone OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► four named renamed iOS 4 2010 so yeah that's true I mean and and circling back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► to what you said you know back 10 minutes ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► you know it's true that nobody nope not only do people not know the name of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► first iPad in 2010 nobody really knew there was no confirmation no leaks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► it ran iPhone what was then called iPhone OS like I a footnote on my piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► the tablet I would not be surprised to find out that the tablet uses UIKit aka [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► Coco touches its programming API like I kind of thought it would seem to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► sense to me but not nobody knew there weren't any kind of leak nothing leaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► my favorite was a article I think from Nick Bilton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1307">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► it was basically like get ready for a big surprise about you will be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► surprised by how you interact with the new tablet I don't know just like I told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► him that doesn't seem to find my own situation was was a woman with a with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► crazy bring helmet on brain measurement that that would have been a very apt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► description for the original iPhone but not you know fact I guess it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► good really say it's wrong given how many people came out of the iPad intro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► with I can't believe you got all excited for that it's just a big iPhone exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► yeah and actually did a round up before the iPad was announced of kind of artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► renderings of what it might look like and there's actually one that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► exactly like the current iPad Mini by his ass Diaz of Gizmodo it looks exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1374">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► like today's iPad Mini it did not look like the first iPad but it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► funny so I saw some of those renderings of whatever i watch is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► called might be somewhat accurate someday in the future but I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► do wonder about that I do I heard one thing you know it may take a break and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► we'll get back to it let me tell you about our good friends at Backblaze you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► guys now back plays they are online backup unlimited on throttle for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► Mac computer you sign up for back place you install their software which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► written by X Apple engineers totally cool very nice native max offered little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► thing in System Preferences said it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► stays our way just runs in the background and then everything on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► Mac even external drives plugged in his backs up to back blazes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► online hosted servers takes a while for the first backup especially depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► your upstream thing there's no no getting around that might take awhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► might a couple days maybe a week depending on how much stuff you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► get up there after that everything's incremental just stays backed up then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► you can do whatever you can restore one file at the time you can restore all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► your files disaster strikes or your your across the country but need your whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► system do not want to do you can get them to hold back up on an external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► drive to pay for it but then they'll ship it right to you get it all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► back in your hands right away they have an iPhone app so you can access and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► share any of your files from wherever you are and I have to tunnel through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► anything to get tears on Mac Mac could be sleeping in your backpack offline you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► can just use your iPhone and access back places tough and get anyone file that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► you need to send it off send it off from the iPhone app great great software you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► get a risk-free no credit card required work wired trial nothing's wrong I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► think with a credit card required trial but its course it's better without one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► because when you put your credit card and you think that means if I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► when the trial is up there gonna start charging now you know about that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► just sign up no credit card required trial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► Backblaze dot com slash during fireball get started you get a whole month to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► how it works and I guarantee by the end of that you'll be given to her credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► card you're gonna wanna science and the whole thing it's it's five bucks a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► five bucks a month for each Mac that you wanna having about it the best deal I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► i've ever heard of front line so my thanks to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► member go to Backblaze dot com slash during viral they keep sponsoring a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► cause people keep signing up I can't believe everybody hasn't signed up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► actually have a Backblaze pro tip is the first time I you know that first sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► obviously is going to take a long time because there's never a terabyte of data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► that it was going so unbelievably slow I didn't know it was wrong I was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► know what maybe do a hundred make a day and it turned out that my stupid iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► was falling asleep after whatever 10 minutes each time and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► interrupting the upload process somehow so I turned sleep off and boomers done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► in like two days just have it set to display to sleep in monitor yeah so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► maybe it's cuz its old old ass I'm acted with the spinning hard drive in on stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► but try that if if it's you need to speed up I have heard one whisper I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► this is horribly like third-party third-hand just something floating in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► the wind but that the whatever the wearable thing that they have coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► that it has a square display I don't even though I would so I would know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► has a Display that's what I've heard that has which to me is interesting if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► it's true that implies a lot of things I think if it has a Display to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► means its gonna maybe it is more of a watch type thing I i've declined to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► certainly the kind of call it the iWatch not because I know that it is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► watch and I've seen people on Twitter speculate on that I call it a risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► wearable thing that doesn't mean that I know that it's not a watch it just means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► that I don't know what the heck it is and I don't know that it is what I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► know that they're working on her wrist wearable thing I've heard that has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► square display I think that I think anna has do I don't know I those mockups Dec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1672">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► where people make it like the whole band is flexible display and it's a lot of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► is displaying late look cool as a as a mockup but I think they're problematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► practical terms because which way they oriented yeah you know i mean like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► you know you seen those markets but if it's just a ban [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► and and the whole top half of it is color display to get a lot of text you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► have to turn your wrist sideways otherwise you just have a real skinny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► display that's real talk even had some stupid ideas were like the display part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► pops out you can spin it has made any sense but yeah I don't know so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► remember the last time I talked to you about this but I did a story a few weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► ago for court so I dug up every Apple wearable that they've ever shipped and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► posted photos of it you know dating back to the old iPod remote which clipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► onto your shirt and actually my favorite with the Sony minidisc remote controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► which I didn't I don't think I posted the article but they were awesome they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► had like little display on a mini clip right under your shirt but then also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► Apple has done obviously we're buds and the iPod shuffle series including you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► know three or four different designs of the iPod shuffle including one that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► kind of screwed up and had reversed course and and then of course the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► last one was the iPod Nano which people made watch bands for not the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► iPod Nano right previous I've got one in my hand right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► yeah which which is surprisingly similar obviously you know many years have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► passed and technologies improve but those like LG and Samsung watches just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► seemed like there that and I don't know maybe apples I know this is brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► let's let's shift course on the iPod nano and we'll come back to this watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► thing and make it look just like this in a few years but I don't know me you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► it seems to me like if that was the right course of action they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► just kept with it I think it was called the Tik Tok Tik Tok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► it was an early and Kickstarter and huge success success to watch band to fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► this little the little square now I have one right here I believe Apple later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► sold them in this in their store they did something and I think other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► companies came out I don't think anybody had the success that these guys had but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► I've sent to people before I like what I see these Android where devices coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► out that if they don't look better and the tick tock which iPod Nano combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► with the tick tock which is a device that wasn't even designed to be a watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1855">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► yeah I give you can if you can't make a watch that looks better than a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► that wasn't really designed to be a watch that could be made into one by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► Kickstarter for years ago for years ago or whatever works three or four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► yeah and that's you know that the round screen like maybe that's progress but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► but just everything about iOS and obviously Mac OS has been built on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► screens with corners and a top and bottom and that kind of stuff and I give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► you see how hard it's been just to get people to make iPad apps I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► about getting you know having a man rethink everything again for a round for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► round given traditional watches and clocks where your you've got this radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► dial of an hour and second hands that sweep around a circle that make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► you're showing circular dial to make sense to put in a circle it's a reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► why all sorts of things that use a dial like a speedometer in the car tachometer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► have crop circle right crop circles sundial have you know traditionally been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► are often are circles but for everything else it doesn't circles are pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► problematic as its play like for displaying text of any kind because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► only get the full width right at the quick response to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► spiral or something right laying out text circle is incredibly inefficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► yeah yeah so when you say squared you literally mean square do you mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► rectangular no I mean square you know like the iPod now interesting you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► again this i mean you can add another thing that is as insiders gonna trooper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1975">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► says iPhone iPod Nano is it square right now I might still have a login I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► know it should save it went to be honest I should take Gruber says sketchy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► third-hand source here's whisper that Apple wearable things might have square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► display yeah I know I don't know I wouldn't bet money on well I now I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► bet big that there will be there will be some wearable thing unveiled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► September or October I would bet an extra $5 that it would have asked where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► I could see that I'm on that side too so the biggest implication of it having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► display is battery life is the battery is having a display to mean is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► generated leads all sorts of questions about how the how is this thing gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► have a usable battery life yeah because that is one nice thing about this Nexus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► 7 is that it's already told me that over half of the power of consumed is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► screen design USA tell you that I remember something like that yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► know what they have an app shaming feature but I don't think like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► Android has had that for a while and we'll tell you things that aren't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► based on here but things like cellular networking right in general and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► display just a power display I think that the iOS a feature only lists apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► by the order in which they've consumed energy yeah yeah so 58 percent of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► has been the screen today I have a feeling that that shaming featureless I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► think I'm proved popular I think it's also going to cause some weird problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► I think part of it is because people are gonna be surprised by what's using power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► I've heard I don't use Facebook so I don't know but I've heard from a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► people that Facebook . app uses consumes and unseemly amount of energy based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► the default settings for background stuff that it tries oh yeah interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► well that's good then so I think I think I think it might even be a big reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► why I of course you know in combination with the fact that use a lot of power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► it's on a lot of iPhones and people more than any other app that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► question I thought about that with the Google sponsorship of of daring fireball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► for iOS apps because clearly if you you know some of Google's apps or are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► inordinately popular Google Maps I would guess the most popular other girl right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► but I would think so you know but a bunch of their apps are very popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► Gmail's their Gmail app is super popular yeah they're Search app yeah which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► think was their first appt maybe yeah I think the one that's just called Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► and it's the one that gives you the Google now functionality but clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► with the Google certainly Google's apps you can reach a lot more people than our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► YouTube is probably be number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► maybe YouTube is number one i dont know cause for so long it was a system app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► and then everyone had to read get it and I don't know at least on certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► contingent of people it's gotta be number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► like my facebook is the all-time number one yeah I would if I had to bet on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► what's the most popular app of all but what happens on the highest percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► of iPhones and news I would to Facebook so if that is really a huge power suck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► then we're gonna hear about right although you know there's a difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► and while the band with examples another one so I just did a post on Friday where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2215">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► I revealed the where the last six point eight gigs of my cellular data have gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► and the biggest the biggest source was twitter twitter which you know you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► of is a simple hundred forty character text app used over 2 gigabytes of data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► for me in the last few months just kind of surprising that you know of course a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► lot of that is photos and built-in web browser and that kind of stuff but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► never would have guessed that Twitter was my number one bandwidth hog and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► actually I asked courts readers to fill out a survey of their number one app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► that uses the most cellular bandwidth imma do a write-up of those findings to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► but a lot of them I looked at him so far a lot of them also say tweet but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► yeah and Twitter so well it is the case with my my iOS 8 I'm using this summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2274">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► on the basis on your old iPhone 5 that every time I got you go to Settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► General usage battery usage and it shows you wait a couple seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► list straps battery usage tweet but is number one for me but I know how much I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► use Twitter when I'm on my phone and that includes late one night Apple Inc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► most of the time I just read it right there in tweet bots built-in browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► total now use it to watch videos too and you know it's not just the actual tweets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► and reading the way that on iOS you load the web pages and videos and stuff by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► the fault in the Twitter client contributes that so based on my you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► and I don't know exactly how much I used to be but my hunch is that their battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► you know their their number one ranking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► the battery usage is totally fair and it's completely in line with how much I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► used to it but but I that there's gonna be a lot of people and I even saw think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► Paul is part of that truck parts or whatever their company name is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► call it a part that would work too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► tablets he even said back right after the features announced in WVC that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► dreading it because he knows you know that they're gonna they're gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► blamed for a iphone says tweet budget in the most power no actually you're just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► Twitter addict and that's how it works yet but it's so Facebook is using a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► of power in the background no that's you know that's potentially problematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► another and I actually think I've turned off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► background app refresh for Facebook and location services and a lot of the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► Foursquare app to is always calling your location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► turned all that stuff off there is a couple weeks ago where it was former [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► Apple Genius posting a top 10 here's how to get more battery from your iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► Mike number number one was turned off everything for Facebook in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► background totally but it doesn't think I think someone was saying how they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► then and there that percentage went up maybe even on the show and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► why I dunno I just checked my beta I found that it doesn't list anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► screen or ok just a list of apps but anyway I do think though that if it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► a screen and it sounds to me like probably does that unless Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► invented some kind of new technology which I wouldn't put it past them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► could mean that it's like in the best case you forgot to charge it every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► couple days thing yeah I also met with a guy not long ago who makes chips for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► wearable devices and some of the stuff that is going on there is interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2455">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► like chips that generate power based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► motion and that kinda stuff right which is an old idea from the white world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► trade where automatic watches which have been around I think they came out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► fifties but I think they were sort of a novelty but then by the sixties you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► a lot of high-end most high-end wristwatches road could come with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► automatic movement which man that once wound if you wore it just the motion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► going through the day would keep it called the Wellspring something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► that some kind of spring keep it around so as long as you keep wearing a watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► it'll stage right now wants but I watched it was powered by water and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► at the new work very well he's serious water on it and then it would supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► shock itself may be in store didn't really work on getting something like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2512">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► meet Mr fusion drive from Back to the Future where they yeah right like China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► power light ball with the potato or something just you know why but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► white world long recognized that even just daily winding your watch is a pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► in the ass and you know I think the effort that went into designing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► automatic movements it's fascinating to me it's exactly like you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► that I think the type of mind even today that go into like being like mechanical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► watch maker or someone who repairs is a lot like being a programmer because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► you're thinking of you know if this you know the gear moves this way it'll do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► this and sixty times I mean it'll do this you know it's the same sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► logical mind set that required for computer programming I think coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► with these automatic movements that never need to be well as long as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► keep took enormous amount of work but I think it's because they recognize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► daily every day waking up and having no one to watch was keeping people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► watches yeah and you know how many charging stations you need buyer next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► year bed now I mean you know that that Motorola watch things did not look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► the kind of thing I'd want to have to deal with every day or two right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► there's so many questions like a divisive to charge comes with so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► things number one just how many devices just to charge on a regular basis like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► it's asking a lot even asking for one is a lot like there could come a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► twenty or thirty years from now where we look back on having to charge anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► on a regular basis as laughable right and yet at the same time now we've I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► mean I have to charge my ipod every day but I have to charge my phone every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► and even then it's like that means every time I travel of gotta take a charger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► alright so the clasp of the watch is the lightning port plug yeah you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2634">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► a great question is lightning lightning port waterproof I've heard people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► speculate that they are you know that the one reason phone iPhone still isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► waterproof is the audio port and a phone that claimed to be I don't know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► that a traditional audio port can't be made waterproof people correct me if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► wrong but that I lightning in theory could be but Apple doesn't advertise it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► as such because the iPhone is water resistant to that but the lightning port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► could be but a lightning port on a watchword be ugly yeah I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► just the Nike FuelBand has this weird thing where the unlock locking clasp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► type thing is part of the charging system right so yeah I guess if the if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► they but you still needed like a little dark for it and wasn't wasn't great so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2695">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► guess if you hit it somewhere else on the watch the band somewhere somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► words you know when you have it off your of exposed but when it's on you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► see it could be something clever like that but even then even if it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► lightning port you're still asking people who you know to have another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► ur lightning port at the bedside and another one that you take with you when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► you travel and then there's also the wireless charging stuff but it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► like it's still several years away from so wireless charging ports or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► portable wireless charging his interest in Kazan you don't have an ugly port on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► the device right but then you've got to have a doc that you take with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► everywhere you go wherever you want to charges and so if you have one bedside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► and then when you travel what do you do you take your picture one with you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► to buy a second one for $50 and keeping its now ready i mean someday it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2753">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► built into all kinds of stuff I think star boxes rolling out a new tables that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► heaven built into the table or something but this can take way too long before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► it's even so I don't know if it if it was a device without it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► screen I could see how Apple could have something you know a lot of inventive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► stuff to keep power usage down and maybe you know like you said like motion so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► that you can use that to charge it I have a citizen watch from a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► ago that has they called eco-drive you CEO / driv its quartz watch battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► operated but the battery recharges with a solar cell that on the face of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► watch and what you can hardly see against certain like you can see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► it's not really a black dial it's it's got like slightly not black in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2814">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► center of it because it's actually a solar cell and it worked great to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► keeps perfect time and I've never needed to replace the battery way in a way past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► the time when you'd have to replace a regular quartz watch battery but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► think there's much you know I think you know using solar to charge something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► that only tells the time in the day of the month is a far cry from even that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► ur that's going to have Bluetooth in you know other type of things like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► the many yet the Instagram app all bets are off but if it has a Display I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► some kind of magical charging seemingly magical charging that doesn't need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► to charge it in every couple of days is out of the question if it has a Display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► it's gotta be something you charge every couple of days at least and then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► means to me that it has to be far more compelling in terms of what it does to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► get people to buy into the household buying another daily or near daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► charging device it's gotta be way more compelling than something that they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► just by this arrest and it'll just work for weeks and we need to charge it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► headphone jack probably not if it needs to be water is this right I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► anything you put a wrist has to be water resistant yeah and you know he watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► the head like a built-in FM radio and i got very excited about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► that idea of listening to baseball game you know without needing anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► but not very practical so you look like a moron with earbuds coming off your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► wrist yeah you do actually the reason I bought the tick tock as I thought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► would be great I can wear my nano one may rest when I run but somehow it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► way too I found it WAY worse in my arm was always getting tangled in the cord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► armbands I kind of work but you know a lot of people run with the arm arm band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2935">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► around your biceps right but they were all the way down your risk right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► because it doesn't work out as well I think that if it somehow broadcast audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► it has to be over Bluetooth yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► alright the the Bluetooth ear pods that where someone made up the fake secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► a ride on the secret yeah I don't think I don't know if I ever talked about on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► the show because it happened at WWDC which also and I was yes I tried before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► us know it was while I was in San Francisco for WBC and it was such a busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► hectic week for me but yet again I think top of technique it was like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► anonymous post on secret that somebody who had been on the wireless headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► team was just let go from Apple that the whole team have been let go and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► they were so bitter that they were going to spoil it and there are wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► headphones coming out for new devices this fall and then I couple after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► everybody had taken it as the synonymous post on secret it must be true or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► probably true or is at least worth reporting that a couple days later the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► same guy was like hey I'm sorry I may have made the whole thing just great you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► know it's plausible but it was implausible forget that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► impossible because it doesn't it didn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► earbuds are oh yeah but it didn't make any sense that Apple would disband the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► team know if they were successful at designing a mean like if they had failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► to design the headphones maybe that got people would get fired because hey we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► told the design Wireless had fun doing it and do it but if they did the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► of that post wasn't we did and that are coming out in a pretty cool and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► doesn't get a promotion and you take over everything ok but it was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► complete no company is Apple's the one company that's what company but same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3054">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► company would run around but congratulations on just successfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► well I would be as part of Microsoft might as part of the downsizing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► they've announced that they've got to lay people off if they want to reduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► layoff now all those little interesting they got rid of so many people for beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► but I guess those we're not like the core people that day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► acquire the company for so it certainly wasn't like they required the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► right I wonder if there if that's going to be something they talked about yet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► September / October or if it's too soon for that like a you know any sort of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► stuff from being one thing I'd love is an Apple TV app because none of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► other subscription music services have one and there be you know a reason for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► me to think about using beats is if I could never thought of myself from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► TV I was thinking the other day because you know I have my whole iTunes Match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► library available there and wanted to use that to play music when we had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► people over and you know there's no Spotify app on the radio app on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► Apple TV be awesome if they kick one out pretty quickly for beats but I might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► asking too much it's only the deal just close like couple weeks ago so I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► about that and I want to I wondered to how it ties into whether or not and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► you know again this is pure speculation but whether or not there's a major Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► you know he isn't there like a better one with it with a slightly refreshed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► look for something I don't know about that I don't know if it has a new look I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► think there's a new build last week I don't know I don't touch the basis for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► that kind of stuff I'm not sure right but I just wonder though that if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► was going to commit to making a beat a probable TV whether they would do it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► the current Apple TV generation put that in the right yeah third major version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► the iOS Apple TV yeah they've been adding a bunch of stuff a lot of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► you know not very useful but I think there's a new NFL app coming or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► yeah well I'm gonna have possible to do this and a ticket and nothing else that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► DirecTV still controls there but I think there's a NFL app that does other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► but I haven't been paying that close of attention now here it is Apple TV NFL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► Sunday Ticket coming to iOS not not Apple TV iOS and Mac for 20 rain know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► is decoupled from DirecTV now it's no longer exclusive to DIRECTV which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► well now that's not actually true now people got really excited because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► were some news release about that but if you if you read the fine print you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► to punch in your zip code and most of america does not qualify for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► streaming direct streaming Sunday Ticket like my in Chicago my mom's zip code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► does not qualify in New York you can do abbeville has been able to do in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► York because it's almost impossible to get DirecTV here but Dad that was blown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► that's actually not not that not happening it's like University people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► who live in dorms can do it and then also people who live in basically New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► York City and maybe I dunno but some other cities where you just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► install a dish that they assume most people can cause obviously I guess some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► people in new york city could but right but most people like a place to stay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► know screw in the satellite dish with the southern reception on icon stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► yeah I don't know but there's like I think in NFL app coming that some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► yeah some NFL app on oh yeah well most of the other major pro leagues have have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► something somewhere yeah I mean that's half the reason I have a Apple TV is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► at bat or whatever it's called right now no breaking new ground here but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► though every every time they had a nap or whatever you want to call a channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► to the current Apple TV its trains the limits of the simple up down left right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► infrared remote more and more so I'd still think that it's a sign that a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► Apple TV is coming with some kind of new UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► yeah there at this point and you know and you can like the stuff I guess but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► you know all the things that make the App Store so logical and great like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► know developers being able to issue updates and all that kind of stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► I still very much missing from the infrared thing is just it's just rain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► pour more because it's like coasters in front of my Apple TV and i couldnt is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► the remote had to move them block in the line of sight like we have the Xbox one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► now and I don't usually use it as a TV but the main Xbox interface though is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► sorta like Windows seven in a row with tiles in some of the Towson bigan summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► small but you largely navigated up down left right select but because you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► real controller then it's got a Bluetooth connection every time you hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3416">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► up it goes up every time you hit right it goes right and it happens instantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► because it's a controller it's built for you know video game-like timing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► every time I go back to the Apple TV and it's like up just to go up one's trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► to target the little sensor exactly as I got this maddening even just switching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► the Bluetooth would be great I think that they'll probably do more but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► if they just came out with an Apple TV that a Bluetooth remote and stocked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► down left right select it would be an upgrade at think that's the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► thing that's right it all there waiting for other stuff but I wanted to though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► if they have something more in mind for the main interface than just five by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► whatever grid of apps because it's there's a certain limit to that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► to the usefulness yeah I know but you also think they may have done that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► the phone by now and they haven't done anything like that I wonder if they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► it with the beats out I wonder it would be an interesting sign of how are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► gonna treat beat are they going to treat beats as part of a package like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► you can hold select down on Apple TV on any of the apps outside the top row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► move them around so I give you use Netflix all the time you can make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► that it's in the upper left right below the built-in movies out but the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► TV shows music computers and settings apps are locked in the top row the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► they're tied Apple stuff like would be be treated as one of those Apple things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► that you can't move around or to be like more like iTunes trailers which is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► app that you can move all the way to the bottom if you don't use it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3522">TS</a>]
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00:58:50 ◼ ► they have to different music services gets weird but I words beats go on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► iOS to have become part of the music a person that always a separate App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► app I think it looks to keep it separate and I think they're gonna keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► retail stores I brought this up weeks ago when it was first announced but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3548">TS</a>]
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00:59:17 ◼ ► give beat special treatment and I don't think they'll give be bad treatment if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► they might give them slightly premium treatment you know in terms of a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► do already I mean happy seems like so many of the headphones repeats to begin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► with I notice that I went as soon as they announced before they announced it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► when he just was like a reported hey Apple is going to buy them for this much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► money and we're all like wow I stopped in the Apple Store just to look at how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► much beat stuff they had I guess I think it was safe to say that that it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► most dominant had fun in the Apple Store already but but still treated like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► is there's a section of the store where we sell stuff from other companies yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3593">TS</a>]
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01:02:19 ◼ ► Samsung's troubles in ya cuz you wrote about that there was actually a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► and I've been reading a lot about it and obviously I don't have the encyclopedic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► knowledge that say Benedict Evans or or Ben Thompson have about you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► asian markets for mobile devices but it's really interesting what's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► right now because and this was gonna write this post or not but remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► slide from the original iPhone announcement where Steve Jobs had all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► the old smartphones up again it seems like all those companies are current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3776">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► gone basically yeah it was like palm palm Nokia and Blackberry write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► something like that yeah and i have a samsung up if you did it was the Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► there'd hilariously religion of the BlackBerry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► I know he referenced the Blackjack here it's the the Motorola Q the BlackBerry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► the Palm Treo and the Nokia e60 20 Motorola Nokia palm fibre basically all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3807">TS</a>]
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01:03:43 ◼ ► several years and of course still technically I think now part of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► going to be part of Lenovo that's what I don't know if that's actually finalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► yet though I don't know that has I don't know but in the new Nokia as part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► Microsoft and HP spry still owns the rights to someday relaunch palm or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► something like that and BlackBerry still technically in business too but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► you you see Samsung flying high and besides Apple the only truly profitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► company and mobile and then all the sudden things are looking so great you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► know in a story that they're getting their butts kicked in China things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► aren't so great in India either where they supposedly you know had built such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► a great distribution system and that kind of stuff and it's it's fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► and and they've been passed they've lost the number one spot for smartphones to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3873">TS</a>]
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01:04:45 ◼ ► price closed syndicate price change back and and and it's to be fair it based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► largely on third-party marketshare summaries from companies like IDC which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► I just linked to a few weeks ago about how you how made up some of their PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► market share numbers have been over the years but it's the best that we can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3904">TS</a>]
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01:05:16 ◼ ► reported a bad quarter yeah fact so it's not out of the question that you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3916">TS</a>]
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01:05:28 ◼ ► lost momentum in India which is very different and we have a link to Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► Thompson peas and a news report dinner but about how different India's from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► China that we called the BRIC countries I'm sure I said this before and it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3938">TS</a>]
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01:05:48 ◼ ► there are you know that there's different economics from like western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► europe and EUS but the thing that the only thing that those countries really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/3951">TS</a>]
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01:09:55 ◼ ► seen that made me you know that the market share advance that Android has is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4195">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► a lot more splintered than the Western dominated Windows Mac war like what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► going on with Android in china is probably pretty different than what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► going on with Android in in western markets you know part worry and software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► wise and you have these these messaging company's debt that catch on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► different markets and become really huge improper and the cast up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► so maybe it's a dawning realization on more people that market share isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► everything that is not it doesn't trump everything every mobile is different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► their market share in mobile is different than it meant in the PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► platform you have any event as I've said before the evenin PCs right the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► still exists and by most by most accounts i've seen in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► traditional PC not counting tablets just counting what we always thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► things with Intel CPUs x86 CPUs rain laptops desktops running either Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4255">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► or Mac or Linux that Apple makes about 50% of the profit in the whole PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► number one in terms of the Prophet they have in the PC industry in a what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► everybody would consider a mature market I settled mature market right now it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► it's also almost never now that you run into the to the real problem which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► that software existed for Windows but not for math right you can pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► get whatever you want for Mac can obviously there's some stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► still games only game he still is still a different situation right although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► Mobile has kind of and the game consoles have kind of PCs less important for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► gaming yeah I'm see people complain I still think clearly Windows PCs are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► know far more you know have more new titles and run things better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► Exelis though better for Windows obviously but but I don't see people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► complaining about games on max anymore so much mainly because I think Mobile is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► a bigger deal on consoles are bigger you know bigger deal yeah but this was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► big fear that you know if Android gets this this huge advantage of market share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► that all of a sudden all the best apps are gonna be either Android first or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► Android only and you know as my reporting about a month and a half ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► like Android despite its massive market share lead is still getting developed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► there are very few important apps that are Android first or Android only and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► you know I don't know if that's going to change it might doesn't look like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► go so that you know that's what that whole market share / platform war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► argument was about and I know you know that's what Jay was thinking cuz Jan our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► working together we were talking about this stuff and that's you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► Henry are you know our boss was the one who was one writing that i phone was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► dead in the water right right now on the argument that you know this platform war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► really really really mattered in the market share was key to do that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► think we're learning a mobile is a little different at least so far i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► you no no no no this can happen in a few years well I think the thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► different is the post internetworld I think that the thing that really like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► lot of things happened between 95 1994 95 1998 which i think people confused in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► their head as meaning hey when you lose the market sure where you go away you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► bye bye and that alot of ppl summed it up as in the back of their heads that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► Windows 95 came out and was either as good or good least good enough as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► mac and people leaned over when people lined up around stores to get it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► midnight like they do for Apple products right it was that popular right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► that's that's just a good basic rule of thumb if you have normal consumers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► lining up around the block to get into a store to buy a product you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► something right now Microsoft added then and you know it was a problem probable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► and been a big thing to do is with the big weather was 92 1095 five whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► the percentage split was between Windows and Mac PCs when you had to interchange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► stuff by floppy disk and they even even the floppy disks had different formats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► if you put a Mac floppy disk into a Windows PC it would save you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► reformat this and you lose everything on it and Max eventually gained the ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► to read das formatted disks but went Microsoft was never gonna bothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► desks and file formats weren't the same and if you had a word document was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► created PC microsoft word on here on your Mac and everything we followed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► then when you send it back to people it was all screwed up with all the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► and it was all did we buy some like $60 out to like just convert yeah I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► the name of his great work to charm I forget the name of that and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► exactly what you're talking about but all those things but then the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► happened and a tour and then Apple got into financial problems and really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► on the cusp of bankruptcy but not really so much just because of market share and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► problems on the Mac but just as the company was hardly run and that they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► had these failed initiatives at Annex jim is a far more complex story than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► just market share but the internet really healed over the whole hey I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► using platform you're using platform being we need to communicate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► exchange stuff right and that really helped I think it's not just Apple but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► anybody who want to come up with a new platform for ever after is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► don't have to worry about me even just simple networking just getting a Mac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► Windows computer on the same network in the early nineties was like almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► impossible and especially they haven't both be treated as peers whereas the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► iPad is this open standard you know involves all these open standards for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► networking and even if you look at the native apps that are the most popular on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► Android and iOS they're all basically just interface code you know interacting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► with an API so even if you know Android gets some sort of market share manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► that people would build Windows apps and then not build a Mac App because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► in a lot of money in time and all the stuff and and documents and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► you just described but the difference between building and iOS Apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► Android app is mostly just interface code so it really broad terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► conceptually the whole computing world is built on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► the foundation is now the internet and it's not just the world wide web at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► tcp/ip in general and HTTP it's the internet and then we all picked devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► that run a certain platform and connect to the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► whereas pre-internet the foundation of the world was whatever operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► year computer was right and so if you're on a Mac Mac OS and the ecosystem of Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► apps was the foundation of the computing world and for PCs it was Windows Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► apps and that meant that they were not compatible so I don't get the modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► world it's it's it's just very possible not just for two platforms to coexist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► and drive like Android and iOS but you know could be could be three I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► it's unlikely that there'd be a clue that there'd be like 10 different you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► know platforms for mobile devices that would drive but our seeing like third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► place now dipped to you know what three percent of the market or four so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4674">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► looks like a two-horse race at this point but I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► inconceivable we roll the dice for the last six or seven years of the end you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► come up with an alternate universe where you know maybe if it had come out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► little sooner and it had more corporate support that Palm OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► you know was still yeah you know 67 percent like a Mac sized market and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► good margins you know it's a good business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► yeah but I think a lot of people looked at those you know that Apple's near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► bankruptcy and and decided that platform battle if you don't win you're gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► bankrupt and don't really think about the fact that Apple came back and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► was a long time ago and now that the market has matured the Mac business has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► been thriving for well over a decade consistently so buy those lines the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► company then maybe in the greatest position of power is not necessarily the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► company that runs the OS but the company that runs those backend services which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4733">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► increasingly is Google and so but I'm also a little surprised by how committed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► to continuing to make stuff for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► to the point that they would even sponsor your website when when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► could theoretically say OK from now on our best stuff is is Android only you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► know there's some state Google now i think is probably going to be a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► experience and Android unique example because it's really tied into the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► system you know the idea that you need to launch an app for it really defeated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► really wants to be in that that gifted position that Syria's in ya so that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► if that sort of feed its stream AI type thing is the future of mobile computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► then that's the kind of thing where Apple market share could be a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► unless Apple does a better job at that with syria although I think for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4795">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► I think there there were on our third-party keyboard apps for iOS now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► but they just run as a nap and you know show their keyboard and you do your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► typing a copy and pasting go back to another appt pasted into the app which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► nobody's going to do like the only way you could really have a thriving market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► of third-party keyboards for your last is if you really support him at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► system level like Apple's doing and I said I think that's probably not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► popular whereas something like Google now is it really gonna have a chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► thrive and les appels somehow made Siri that sort of thing where you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► replace Siri with Google now or with katana ya I don't know if they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► ever do that just me talking made the iOS ate a serious thing I was wondering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► that's funny seems like you are asking you said you heard me say replace Syria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► with and she got upset nice yeah so I wonder if there's a point at which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► Google you know sees the market share in their advantages alright well we're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► doing Google Maps for iOS now or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► it doesn't seem to be the direction they're going in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► yeah and there's microsoft in his Google sometimes called Microsoft will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► sometimes is that doesn't seem to be the way they think I think there may be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► people within Google who think that but I think that certainly the people making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► the haps aren't would be ten I and I think they're so scared of antitrust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► stuff that they won't because it really screw them up they have to chop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► themselves up so you know a public seeming support for iOS probably makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► them look really good and the same way that it did for Microsoft in 1997 when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► they cut the deal with apple and 25 years of of you know office support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► stuff like that even more so because Microsoft was already in the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► antitrust trouble at the time right now yeah yeah that's my Google has to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► about that Apple doesn't because Google has at least one monopoly which is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► web search yeah and chrome is starting to move in that direction too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► and I don't think right question I don't think chrome is ever going to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► monopoly size now probably now but the other thing they're doing now and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► actually learned a lot about this on Friday is that the EU is like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► looking into it the way they're using Google Plus as part of search results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► and I don't you know they may just get slap on the wrist but some other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► might happen that makes it really bad for them so I don't know but so we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► see about that but I Google searches obviously their biggest the EU I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► the EU is largely skeptical I do that I had to know wouldn't be surprised at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► and maybe have been more surprised if something doesn't come of it but just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► general way that Google favors its own products and search results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► yeah that I give you just getting worse and if you just type in I'm guessing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► our calendar software does it show you know suggest Google Calendar and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► that like when you search for businesses they show Google+ results for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► business and it's not part of doesn't show Google calendars for sure so but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► you know I don't know but I know for you type like a restaurant name it it favors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► the Google+ page for that calendar are a few just type the word Calendar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► Google the first result is Google Calendar nice well how is that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► no I don't know but I know that the EU and your Google yeah looks very askance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► at that because that's what they would call unless I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5035">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► antitrust term for it is but it's using its exactly what Microsoft trouble with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► Windows it is using you know that having a monopoly is not necessarily illegal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► and often as an illegal at all but using that monopoly to gain an advantage in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► different market is right if they're using the Google search monopoly to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► promote Google+ unreasonably against you know natural competitors than that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► be problematic and not having a monopoly gives Apple Way more freedom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► that would otherwise like there's probably an arms length list of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► that Apple is doing that if I S had 90% smartphone market share would certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► hope so yea certainly have the EU taking them to court and might even have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► you s Department of Justice which has even with you know Obama in the seventh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► year of his administration is far more business-friendly then they you yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5095">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► yeah yeah that's probably the prime example that way they run the app store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► and that there's no side loading of apps that would probably be the central that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► would probably be the the big one that would probably be like the centerpiece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► of a legal thing and I don't think they'd be able to win it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► yeah which things have I'm ever in the App Store first launched that was kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► lot of a lot of controversy but people seem to have gotten used to it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► know with test flight who knows you know in a couple of years there could be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► widespread sideloading abouts but no but it would definitely be the thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► I've even seen people make the stupid argument which is that Apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► monopoly monopoly on the OS Drive funds but that's not a monopoly yeah this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► anyone running Android can you crack and iPhone and run Android on there I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► think so I've seen people try maybe there is a once or twice a long time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► or somebody got something vaguely working but it's not a thing you cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► go back to Samsung I think that the other thing that we're really seeing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► that Samsung has they've done a great job and they obviously had a good good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► couple of years but that there is increasingly becoming obvious that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► they're getting pinched on both sides that Apple still dominates are certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► has a long-term sustained advantage of the high end of the smartphone market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► like the multi hundred priced handsets that Apple still sells a majority of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► those which is historically where the profits are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► yeah where the profits are and at the low end at the lower priced and where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► Apple doesn't compete in all their increasingly losing two companies I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► shall me and other ones that a lot of us even here in Aus haven't even heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► it don't even have access to but certainly that's that's been a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► for them in China and that is you know that's where their market share is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► eroding right now and those get you know people to look at Samsung stuff and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► maybe even by a higher and thing or something right and you lose the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► advantage to do maybe did maybe it's not high margin but you know low margin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► times a big number still equals a lot of money and you know you lose that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► advantage and then all the scale advantages that come with right now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► you know the post I published the link obviously was a little tongue-in-cheek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► you know here Samsung's future stock chart and it was the Nokia chart the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► the iPhone launch to the day that Microsoft but Nokia so which looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► a ski downhill ski slope I don't think that's the future for Samsung I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► it's a huge conglomerate may do so much more stuff than 10 I think Nokia did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► know ranging from TVs to the chips that go into other phones and that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► stuff so and they see them collapsing but it's doesn't look great either right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► they've proven to be more nimble than Nokia but I don't know of their nimble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► enough and it's right they don't really have good footing in this market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► you know where I think Apple does and I think company like Jeremy does and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► even I know Ben Thompson is is is a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► is bullish on Lenovo want they's gonna finish the Motorola acquisition and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► Lenovo my do real really well in China and other places just you know nipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► in 25 percent here six percent there seven percent to another company and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► of a sudden the low end is is bifurcated and maybe as a lot more like the PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► market where they are now all of a sudden Apple has you know five-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► iPhone and and maybe you don't need to buy that galaxy note so right the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► few years you know to compare the smartphone market in the PC market the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► last few years have been sort of like you know if 1 PC maker just had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► enormous market share of Windows you know sixty seventy percent of Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► sales were all Dell's that would be really good for Dell but that's not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► the PC market is the PC market you know I think the number one spot has moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► around a lot but it's never been more than like 20 percent for HP or Dell any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► one company and its you know it you quickly get into that long tail where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► there's all sorts of you know no name companies making really cheap machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► and it's all split up and it's as you can see there's no you know there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► money to be made in a market like that like nobody else other than Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5394">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► i-ten be the nope no other company than Apple's making big money and and mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► handset right and there's nothing locking Samsung customers into Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► the way that there would be tried to you know I try to make their own music and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► think they ever did their own app store but they yeah they do have happened and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► none of that really caught on I think in large part because they're not very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► at software yeah and also google has pressured all the Android companies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► you know kind of promote Google Play and not at risk of losing all the Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► Google support so I think Google has made it such that simpson really doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► have that much to lock people in 2008 I think then I think they're obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► aware of it because there's no other reason that tyson their own software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► platform even exists but I like you said they're just not good at it and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► they're not even good at making apps for Android I mean how good are they going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► to be at making an entire platform and it's such an uphill battle when you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► at me Microsoft we know is good at making platforms and good at making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► developer tools and develop creating developer API's can't get much traction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► in the market and can't get first class support from third-party developers the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► way that Android and iOS have well then how is Samsung gonna do it with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► all-new platform right cuz it's not just good enough even if they made a version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► of tyson that was objectively speaking good enough you know I got as good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► Android it that alone doesn't mean that they would get an app store full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► third-party apps right totally and then even if they don't then it's dead in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► water it you know two morrow henry's phrase it really would I mean look at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► new Microsoft has been trying to even pay companies to make Windows Phone apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5515">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► and that's been such an uphill battle right as it is to close the loop on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► is it really makes it just seemed even how much more impressive and unlikely it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► was for Apple to succeed such so strongly because they weren't making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► mobile phones before and they weren't making touch based operating systems an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► app stores and all that kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► sky nuts how well they've done yeah and and the profit margin on all that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► of stuff and not just pieces of it all of it like it's the iPhone really is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► lot more you know for all the praises gotten it really is more even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► yeah I totally agree and I think that it's the way that they made it look easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► makes it easy to overlook that yeah yeah I'm just looking Instagram just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► example that Instagram for Windows Phone debuted eight months ago so early 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5575">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► but instagram for Android came in March 2012 so two years after Andrew they came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► out with a Windows from version and Instagram was rather famous for being I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► was only for what seemed like a long time seemed like the Android version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► took a look them a long time to get to write and I remember reading that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► Nokia that actually got them to to do a Windows version not even Microsoft it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► was that they were impressed by the cameras on Nokia hardware so they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► when build of Windows Phone so just repeat that over and over again with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► everybody and then you know filter that down to the smaller developers you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► the true indy shop swear it's just a handful of developers and designers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► you're just not going to get you just get the support cuz they're all writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► iOS and Android apps yeah I should look at the BlackBerry App Store and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► what's going on there right now I bet a lot of people have abandoned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5635">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► companies that had made apps even at the beginning of it might not be doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► anymore like I wonder there's an updated MLB app this year I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► maybe but I wonder I don't even know about them and us to be have a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► few I know its cast to the F you at the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► follow-up I should mention asst I guess we should still at bat for blackberry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► look at that happened 2014 yep I shall I say there's some good stories behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► that I wonder if it runs on does it run on both platforms is it just for the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► Blackberry or does it run on the blackberry 10 visits to different pipe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► blackberry 10 so they go but you must purchase the device specific version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► Acrobat 14 from the BlackBerry World access it on blackberry 10 I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► what that means but I think all I think you have to tell them exactly which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► blackberry model because there's two entirely different platforms time I ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► you is what had multinational last episode I was saying how can move people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► in today's world would buy polarized sunglasses because you make sure iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► look crazy and you know I have you ever seen at a price you have to take them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► off their screens are crazy like that I had an iPhone have different effects so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► I you I heard I got an earful from the fans of polarized sunglasses and and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► summarized I want to stay up but apparently if you buy the quote goods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► polarized sunglasses it shouldn't be a problem that it says that's only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► function of bad polarized sunglasses if you get expensive ones that are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► your iPhone look good on me when you hold the iPhone in its natural portrait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► orientation when you hold it sideways then you get the problem but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► apparently it is possible to use an iPhone with polarized sunglasses so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► apologies fans of polarized sunglasses polarized sunglasses industry and I wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► mine are actually remember that was the first time we met you you put my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► sunglasses on your shocked at how dirty they were quicker so I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► because I was thinking I was thinking about their arabians I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► there and I asked you was on the roof deck at the Macworld no know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► deck the Macworld deck now it was New York not enough party I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/5792">TS</a>]
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01:43:05 ◼ ► interesting that the iPad Mini and the iPhone 5 have different screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/6185">TS</a>]
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01:43:55 ◼ ► all that mythology about how they just cut the same screen out of the thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/6235">TS</a>]
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01:44:27 ◼ ► that because they've stuck to these same pixel resolutions you know in the pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► runner world there were only 22 pixel resolution pixels per inch the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/6272">TS</a>]
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01:50:34 ◼ ► new titles you know at whatever price they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/6634">TS</a>]
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01:52:13 ◼ ► position of strength and the big thing is that the downside you know the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/6733">TS</a>]
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01:52:38 ◼ ► it is to cut down trees turning in the paper and print a book and even amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/6758">TS</a>]
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01:54:44 ◼ ► the analogy to the there's a lot of people are the people on the side that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/6884">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► it did they should definitely be cheaper and maybe even a lot cheaper ebooks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/6888">TS</a>]
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01:55:00 ◼ ► in the nineteen thirties it's not quite the same analogy that its third tier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/6900">TS</a>]
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01:55:33 ◼ ► publishers have worked is that new books only command hardcover like when Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:37 ◼ ► King comes out with a new book it doesn't come out in hardcover and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/6937">TS</a>]
01:55:39 ◼ ► paperback at the same time and you can choose to save you know half the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/6939">TS</a>]
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01:57:02 ◼ ► necessarily gouging like it's being among the first to get something is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7022">TS</a>]
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01:57:13 ◼ ► not that hell-bent on reading it right away or you already have a big stack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7033">TS</a>]
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01:58:17 ◼ ► some movies and some of these two of the cost more rent you know there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7097">TS</a>]
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02:03:48 ◼ ► you know maybe everyone uses their personal Gmail the office but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7428">TS</a>]
02:03:52 ◼ ► it's a fair test oh yeah it was it was universally and I looked up the MX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7432">TS</a>]
02:03:57 ◼ ► records for a hundred and fifty companies and and so that you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7437">TS</a>]
02:04:02 ◼ ► startup the Y Combinator I think it was like all but four or six of them used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7442">TS</a>]
02:04:09 ◼ ► Google that's a little surprising to me too that it was that high I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7449">TS</a>]
02:04:15 ◼ ► 92% so all but it's not that hard to you know 4600 all but four of them i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7455">TS</a>]
02:04:30 ◼ ► one of them might have been used so outlook was showing up in these results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7470">TS</a>]
02:04:34 ◼ ► occasionally so I you know theoretically Microsoft's answer to Google absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7474">TS</a>]
02:04:40 ◼ ► cloud-based outlook so that was showing up in some of them I'm a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7480">TS</a>]
02:04:45 ◼ ► surprised it was as high as ninety-two percent because it's not that hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7485">TS</a>]
02:04:48 ◼ ► run your own mail server you know if you run like that you get a lot of it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7488">TS</a>]
02:04:55 ◼ ► free from Google web host and sign up for whatever DreamHost or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7495">TS</a>]
02:05:00 ◼ ► run your IMAP for you a lot of those web host have been kicking that off to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7500">TS</a>]
02:05:05 ◼ ► Google because it used to be free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7505">TS</a>]
02:05:08 ◼ ► and because that's a huge you know monkey off their back as hosting emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7508">TS</a>]
02:05:14 ◼ ► pry not fun for any of those companies in terms of support I'm also surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7514">TS</a>]
02:05:19 ◼ ► maybe it just speaks to my mindset but I'm a little surprised a lot of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7519">TS</a>]
02:05:22 ◼ ► companies wouldn't switch off even if they were using it when they were at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7522">TS</a>]
02:05:26 ◼ ► three guys in a grand stage that they didn't switch off once they get you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7526">TS</a>]
02:05:31 ◼ ► hire men that they wouldn't say hey let's run on mail servers for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7531">TS</a>]
02:05:36 ◼ ► paranoia aspect of that and Andre of those companies have negotiated with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7536">TS</a>]
02:05:42 ◼ ► Google for like a maybe who wants to acquire US or maybe we need to work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7542">TS</a>]
02:05:46 ◼ ► them and do you really trust Google not even security stuff do we trust Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7546">TS</a>]
02:05:53 ◼ ► to write content so the most interesting part though was the those mid tier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7553">TS</a>]
02:05:58 ◼ ► companies and that's where 60% them used Google Apps and that includes Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7558">TS</a>]
02:06:05 ◼ ► includes both Dropbox and Box both of them use Google email and those are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7565">TS</a>]
02:06:14 ◼ ► know as I wrote in the piece like those would be potential competitors even you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7574">TS</a>]
02:06:19 ◼ ► know like Dropbox Rd probably has a mbox you know has pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7579">TS</a>]
02:06:27 ◼ ► enterprise sales for their storage services so maybe they should offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7587">TS</a>]
02:06:30 ◼ ► email hosting two who knows but that was really surprising so it's not that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7590">TS</a>]
02:06:36 ◼ ► know Microsoft still has a huge hold over the biggest enterprise customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7596">TS</a>]
02:06:42 ◼ ► but the growing companies in Microsoft's future customers seem to be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7602">TS</a>]
02:06:50 ◼ ► sticking with Google so we'll see you know Microsoft still has a ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7610">TS</a>]
02:06:56 ◼ ► percent of the revenue and that in the email hosting market think that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7616">TS</a>]
02:07:00 ◼ ► they told me something around that range or maybe 95% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7620">TS</a>]
02:07:07 ◼ ► what's a call IBM Lotus also still has some surveys like 80% Microsoft but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7627">TS</a>]
02:07:11 ◼ ► still very strong dominating position but revenues that important to Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7631">TS</a>]
02:07:18 ◼ ► they're not in the email apps business for the money they're doing it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7638">TS</a>]
02:07:26 ◼ ► Google gets all the money they need from search advertising which is but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7646">TS</a>]
02:07:31 ◼ ► think though I because it everybody knows that the day I don't admit emanate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7651">TS</a>]
02:07:38 ◼ ► say that they they scan your email to show contextual ads right related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7658">TS</a>]
02:07:44 ◼ ► generates money and from like being in your email to get your to build their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7664">TS</a>]
02:07:51 ◼ ► profile of you is got to be a huge source of accuracy for the the targeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7671">TS</a>]
02:07:58 ◼ ► ads that they show true and affect your login for your email means you're logged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7678">TS</a>]
02:08:03 ◼ ► in right by doing searches but even beyond that like my understanding is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7683">TS</a>]
02:08:08 ◼ ► that they actually are running Google Apps as a business now like they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7688">TS</a>]
02:08:12 ◼ ► trying to lose a lot of money on it which is one the reasons they got rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7692">TS</a>]
02:08:16 ◼ ► the free here and that kind of stuff so you know it's it's still I think less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7696">TS</a>]
02:08:22 ◼ ► than 10% of I think ninety percent of rules revenues still advertising but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7702">TS</a>]
02:08:26 ◼ ► still I think I think now other is 10% or something like that so growing but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7706">TS</a>]
02:08:34 ◼ ► interesting as was I would you know I was in the command line like searching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7714">TS</a>]
02:08:39 ◼ ► MX records and I would see this big ass companies still using Gmail it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7719">TS</a>]
02:08:44 ◼ ► pretty crazy yeah and I think that there's a hard to make them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7724">TS</a>]
02:08:50 ◼ ► understand something his job depends on them not understanding sort of angle to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7730">TS</a>]
02:08:58 ◼ ► everybody had to have email but some internet based email at some point in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7738">TS</a>]
02:09:02 ◼ ► the nineties became just as essential as having telephone lines in your company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7742">TS</a>]
02:09:08 ◼ ► and for a lot of them they might have already had internal email based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7748">TS</a>]
02:09:13 ◼ ► whatever antiquated Microsoft are loading scrap that they had and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7753">TS</a>]
02:09:17 ◼ ► installed gateways to the internet and it was all convoluted crazy but it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7757">TS</a>]
02:09:21 ◼ ► required a big large I T staff and then doing anything like when you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7761">TS</a>]
02:09:27 ◼ ► start-up not having anybody who has to worry about the email server is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7767">TS</a>]
02:09:31 ◼ ► because you you know you can concentrate on the thing that is you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7771">TS</a>]
02:09:35 ◼ ► build and you can save on your head count and it really matters even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7775">TS</a>]
02:09:39 ◼ ► just one person because you're leaning meaning whereas if you're already had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7779">TS</a>]
02:09:42 ◼ ► the IIT staff with a full time I T job that you know proctor and gamble or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7782">TS</a>]
02:09:46 ◼ ► something like that you're not going to make decisions on what products and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7786">TS</a>]
02:09:50 ◼ ► services to buy based on when a week we can get rid of the best we can give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7790">TS</a>]
02:09:54 ◼ ► right right we can make this choice that would obviate the need for jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7794">TS</a>]
02:09:59 ◼ ► totally yeah and it's so many of those enterprise deals are you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7799">TS</a>]
02:10:04 ◼ ► exchange server be also get office license for everyone in the company and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7804">TS</a>]
02:10:09 ◼ ► windows and all that stuff so it's a huge deal that's beyond the scope of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7809">TS</a>]
02:10:12 ◼ ► just emailing and an outlook but you know the companies that are starting his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7812">TS</a>]
02:10:18 ◼ ► three-person startup now and are growing into some of the company I just pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7818">TS</a>]
02:10:23 ◼ ► up to the spreadsheet some of the companies that are still Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7823">TS</a>]
02:10:27 ◼ ► customers you know were less than 10 people a few years ago and those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7827">TS</a>]
02:10:31 ◼ ► like Airbnb Warby Parker tumblr you know all these companies are still using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7831">TS</a>]
02:10:40 ◼ ► Google Apps despite the fact that they are worth billions of dollars in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7840">TS</a>]
02:10:45 ◼ ► Tumblr yeah it's crazy to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7845">TS</a>]
02:10:48 ◼ ► given that they're owned by Yahoo yeah and well they've also maintained a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7848">TS</a>]
02:10:59 ◼ ► a bunch of boring like Etsy does you know in one of the one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7859">TS</a>]
02:11:06 ◼ ► to where it's there's no real naughty can't migrate billet spinning yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7866">TS</a>]
02:11:12 ◼ ► because you've gotta somehow down load all of your email from Google and put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7872">TS</a>]
02:11:18 ◼ ► somewhere in and uploaded a flight for example number 12 to switch to Yahoo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7878">TS</a>]
02:11:25 ◼ ► truth is without looked up what Yahoo itself uses but I would bet it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7885">TS</a>]
02:11:30 ◼ ► gmail but on the other hand to is the simple fact that gmail is objectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7890">TS</a>]
02:11:38 ◼ ► better than Yahoo Mail and you know it's it's a good sign I guess it's shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7898">TS</a>]
02:11:43 ◼ ► be that surprising it's a good sign that number is not stay on Gmail you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7903">TS</a>]
02:11:47 ◼ ► wasn't by air by edict forced to do it because it would have been a shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7907">TS</a>]
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02:11:58 ◼ ► you know i i quit one beats music is a good question that's a really good now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7918">TS</a>]
02:12:09 ◼ ► you know I don't look at it now but that's being good follow-up because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7929">TS</a>]
02:12:13 ◼ ► wonder if they're on Gmail I wonder if that would be Apple's they still on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7933">TS</a>]
02:12:17 ◼ ► exchange it out what are now no I don't think they use Exchange I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7937">TS</a>]
02:12:21 ◼ ► just simply no straight Street UNIX I am I think could be good look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7941">TS</a>]
02:12:29 ◼ ► headers from email yeah that's an email from Apple apparently there i watch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7949">TS</a>]
02:12:38 ◼ ► coming on the show headers OIC Oracle Communications messaging server ya no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7958">TS</a>]
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02:12:53 ◼ ► server alright so there you go there you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7973">TS</a>]
02:12:57 ◼ ► or yeah it's Larry Ellison and can you imagine how that deal got done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7977">TS</a>]
02:13:05 ◼ ► there was a yacht involved two people you're moving your email to Oracle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/7985">TS</a>]
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02:13:24 ◼ ► they're all there in last place but they just called up the number one prospect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8004">TS</a>]
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02:13:47 ◼ ► probably for a year to guessing 2016 you gotta have a shot you have faith in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8027">TS</a>]
02:13:54 ◼ ► think there are no I mean I've I've now gotten to the point where I'm just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8034">TS</a>]
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02:14:05 ◼ ► they were in the NLCS I was still very skeptical you know when you grow up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8045">TS</a>]
02:14:09 ◼ ► this year like it's kind of spread over and how I see all kinds of stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8049">TS</a>]
02:14:14 ◼ ► we'll see we'll see when it actually happens but it's exciting to watch as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8054">TS</a>]
02:14:19 ◼ ► they used to love watching games and they've just been so bad for so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8059">TS</a>]
02:14:22 ◼ ► that I haven't even bothered you can even sign up for MLB TV this year until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8062">TS</a>]
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02:14:40 ◼ ► said yeah it's great well as a fantastic deal for me I'm said that if you if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8080">TS</a>]
02:14:46 ◼ ► favorite team is out of town it's amazing to your favorites and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8086">TS</a>]
02:14:50 ◼ ► questionable they should they should have a different tier they should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8090">TS</a>]
02:14:54 ◼ ► like a tier for people who are fans of the end in game in town team you pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8094">TS</a>]
02:14:59 ◼ ► less but you can only watch so many games a year as I can and when you go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8099">TS</a>]
02:15:02 ◼ ► vacation you well what they did was the Yankees did a deal with I think one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8102">TS</a>]
02:15:09 ◼ ► the cable providers so you could sign up for MLB TV but you ought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8109">TS</a>]
02:15:15 ◼ ► pay through some maybe through the case I don't know is crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8115">TS</a>]
02:15:18 ◼ ► was like it was more expensive I think this is one of those things we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8118">TS</a>]
02:15:23 ◼ ► these guys are not thinking about their customers at all and but it was some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8123">TS</a>]
02:15:29 ◼ ► weird thing I think with Cablevision maybe where you could sign up I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8129">TS</a>]
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02:15:38 ◼ ► this is your friend and your frequent guest on the show but I mean it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8138">TS</a>]
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02:16:03 ◼ ► area like it you know I wasn't really looking for a day job but I found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8163">TS</a>]
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02:16:13 ◼ ► yeah I have a have a piece I haven't posted yet its first post tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8173">TS</a>]
02:16:19 ◼ ► cued up by Lily Kuo Kuo I guess on Chinese regulation of social media has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8179">TS</a>]
02:16:31 ◼ ► on what's really good article I thought I have now read that one yet so wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8191">TS</a>]
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02:16:46 ◼ ► at the good to be back in the saddle at the QZ dot com and sitting out of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8206">TS</a>]
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02:17:01 ◼ ► of the year so stay tuned for that same time as the Moto 270 yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux22sss/8221">TS</a>]