00:00:00 ◼ ► breaking news this is Steve Ballmer step down from the Microsoft Word I did I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/0">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► I love him so much so it's hard for me I'm kinda happy for him though because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/5">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► feel like I've already he's already got like a big new thing he's found he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/9">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► found his next windows you know yet did you see the video of him at the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/17">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► he's gonna be such a great Clippers fans don't have to do to get it i mean it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/23">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► just could have been like this probably what he should have been doing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/29">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► twenty years I i do I kind of I do kind of feel like that I do and I feel I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/33">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► to know as a Yankees fan I'm partial to the bigger than life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/39">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► owner George Steinbrenner which is exactly what bomber is except maybe he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/46">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► maybe a little little bit believe it or not a little bit less angry I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/50">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► guy goes how to keep his cool though never seen the video on YouTube where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/60">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► he's at like a German press conference and somebody throws something at him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/64">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► oh yeah yeah and he does he completely unfazed like it doesn't really bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/70">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► him right you know and he just like keeps pouting Microsoft propaganda and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/75">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► Mike it doesn't really matter at all to him that he just got hit in the face by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/81">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► some German yeah I can't help but think too i mean number one is consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/84">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► competitive guy i mean he wants to win this is a guy eaten by the Clippers just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/90">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► own a team he wants to win NBA titles whereas the old owner the dingbat racist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/94">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► guys startling for four decades the Clippers were like a joke in the NBA and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/100">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► they only got good and last few years by by locked by a trade that nobody thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/105">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► was going to be good that turned out to be fantastic form so it's great news for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/110">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► the Clippers fans cause he's gonna win and I can't help but think that like his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/115">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► tech background is going to make you know sort of as the NBA sort of pushes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/119">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► in that Moneyball direction of looking at stats and metrics that people didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/125">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► look at before and I think that's one reason Mark Cuban been a good owner for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► the Dallas Mavericks they've been pretty successful now I've gotten into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/133">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► like rapid thing of finding you know there is that thing that he threw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/137">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► threw a chair across the room a couple of years ago right it was like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/141">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► went there was like a key employees who he wanted he wanted to keep the guy was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/145">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► like you know what I'm going to Google and write the guys like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/149">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► there's nothing you can say I'm going to Google through its your point like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/153">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► there's no you know he's a passionate passionate passionate man and chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/158">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► throwing as I get nice history in basketball Bobby Bobby Knight the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/164">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► college coaches at Indiana's just like their own shares of referees not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/167">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► that a fly on court but I think I'm definitely disappoint you for the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/172">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► hour or whenever we're gonna be talking about talking about sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/176">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► bombers personality yeah yeah I'm just sayin can really throw the same no curve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/180">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► ball if you well then we added in some laughter there and I do think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/188">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► it's kind of the rumors that he was good not gonna be long on the Microsoft board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/199">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► that you know that they did public relations wise it's you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/203">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► orderly transition but it's more like a divorce then you know as amicable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/208">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► yeah it kind of is his boy he have a good run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/222">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► yeah I could run and you know I don't talk about dedication to accompany me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/228">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► like you know what you're talking about this passion he's he's so passionate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/232">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► about Microsoft like it and I you know when he had stepped down or when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/236">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► resignation thing happened I was like you know that's that's a sad thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/242">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► lose for company which is like a CEO that it's just that incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/245">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► passionate about about everything that comes out of that company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/249">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► yeah like he you know he was never one of these guys who was just going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/253">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► CEO of a company and that maybe someday he would leave and go to Oracle you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/258">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► I know it was never going to happen he was a Microsoft guy yeah oh yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/265">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► know I love this company and she did he really does that's what it says in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/271">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► letter did you read the letter he posted on one drive no I did not I obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/277">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► tweeted that he could have used clippings help to format the letter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/285">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► paragraphs he like it's like really after all this time you couldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/290">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► just used one of the template's inward tweeted the link here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/297">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► well you have been super busy this month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/302">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► your I guess you're always busy but you're not one of these taken off for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/308">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► August people know and guess who's getting married right before or right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/311">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► after the iPhone launch for the rumored iPhone launch right before or right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/316">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► after well if things go according to rumor and speculation or if they follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/321">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► a historical pattern we will see an announcement on Tuesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/329">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► got married on that Sunday on the 14 and then an iPhone would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/335">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► historically has happened launched the week after week after that I'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/342">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► yeah usually on a Friday so I'm guessing the nineteenth you know so you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/348">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► picked a great time to get married are you immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/353">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► well congratulations number one the number two are you are you immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/358">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► leaving on a honeymoon or now that the honeymoon is scheduled for a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/362">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► honeymoon is scheduled for the end of October beginning of November right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/368">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► your review in theory you could your your iPhone review could your camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/373">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► pictures could be from the bride's perspective mazing well yes but you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/378">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► other bribed my fiance she will probably murder me if I'm reviewing an iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/387">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► during the week of the wedding that reminds me reminds me of the funniest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/392">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► thing from this summer was reviewer a bridesmaid and and a friends wedding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/402">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► you were testing the Android we're smart watches G that you're out totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/407">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► totally happened like I wore that to the rehearsal dinner the night before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/416">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► she was like what is that just made my new watch it's my new smartphone glued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/420">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► to my to my wrist and she's like if you wear that tomorrow seat don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/427">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► yes add to stage a little bit of the sound bite when she was in her beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/434">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► dress but that was that was very much a true story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► yeah but anyway congratulations but you will still be out for the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/441">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► assuming everything again assuming every we talked about it like it's a done deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/447">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► but assuming everything happens as as expected you'll be out for the event and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/450">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► later in the week right yeah yeah if yes exactly I do think I do think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/457">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► is going to happen that you know I did rumors are true and I mean that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/463">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► sense given the timing but it is funny to of watching the rest of the industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/469">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► line up around that because everybody I think Samsung hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/474">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► I'm very busy leading up to this wedding I think that the Samsung one is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/478">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► be on the third it's like everybody you know you want to go after you want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/487">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► before and I think most people are like oh we usually does this before could eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/490">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► out of berlin is the same as the same time every year and so they do the note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/495">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► announcement there and you know sony announces some stuff that I'm not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/501">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► sure people know it is sad and who else does stuff around there sometimes HTC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/505">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► but I guess not really this year and then Motorola has an event like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/510">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► Friday or Thursday before its that's the fourth so yeah yeah and there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/516">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► added possibility that that this will be the event and again this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/524">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► speculation but it could be that coincided with the iPhone Apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/529">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► will have their wearable stuff long long rumored supposedly imminent wearable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/533">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► stuff if which would probably well I don't know what to do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/539">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► questionable whether that would come out at the same time maybe the reviews would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/544">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► be you know maybe they denounce it then it'll come out a different time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/547">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► could be a lot of stuff to review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► well everyone jumped on something you said a couple weeks ago and by there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/552">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► didn't really read that as like that was your inside sources and I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/558">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► yeah I would think that was not going to happen at the same event as the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/567">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► but that said I don't I really don't know much and I think it's really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/573">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► to talk about some of this healthcare IT staff without talking about that product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/577">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► but again I don't really know yeah I talked about this a little bit last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/581">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► but that's to me it was just a guess trying to crack a joke about what if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/584">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► Moto 270 doesn't come out until after Apple announces their thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/589">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► 270 will come out before and it will be close to $270 yeah I know when did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/595">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► say that the Moto 360 is going to the rumored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/605">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► real-estate it's like a mini sometime in the next week or so I think they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/610">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► holding this event on September my inbox with their imposing an event in our in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/616">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► September in Chicago I believe so that's a yeah and then that then the pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/623">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► leaked this weekend on best buy for $250 for the Moto 27360 I'm actually excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/628">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► about this I mean I know a lot of people when I put it on a Google i/o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/634">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► people were saying that I was wearing a saying I was wearing my my wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/639">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► you might have made a great joke about what I was wearing my wrist as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/646">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► I don't remember a monocle or something like that but you know it's I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/650">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► the first SmartWatch that comes closest to looking like a watch it definitely is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/658">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► very big the faces big and there's been some issues about the screen isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/662">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► really fully you circle but definitely looks better than the than the to the LG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/668">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► and Samsung that I've worn during the summer that I stole I concur with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/675">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► review of the earlier too though where it's just highly questionable whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/681">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► and for some people of course some people you know you can find some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/686">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► who want everything you know any idea under the Sun but the idea of getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/690">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► buzz on your wrist every single time you get a notification is to me it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/695">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► like punishment it does it doesn't kill me and i dont have the type of job I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/699">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► don't think many people do when I'm always on the alert for like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/706">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► emergency you know I can totally see how like I don't know somebody who works in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/712">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► a hospital might want to have a watch that every single time the buses they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/717">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► really do want to look at it could be a serious emergency I could see that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/722">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► I don't need that and when I had my putt my pebble hooked up to my iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/726">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► just moving alerts to my wrist it it just feels like a punishing myself right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/732">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► and you know that's one of the things I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► spoken to Google about before the review and then obviously pointed out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/740">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► review is that there needs to be deeper customization of that but even then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/745">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► know you really wonder do we want to be sort of futzing with that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/749">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► settings type of thing I mean even just dealing with notifications on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/753">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► is like and setting them up and what apps ping me when they do their service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/757">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► at my retweet serve it mentions or email from this account you that in itself is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/762">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► a is a big task to do so it's easiest for these companies to just say if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/768">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► hits the front lock screen of your phone then it will hit your wrists yeah but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/773">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► needs to be deeper than that but they have to do it in a way where it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► really completely frustrating to figure out how to get those things there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/781">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► yeah of course a lot of people and I would argue that a lot of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/786">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► want Android phones don't mind tinkering with that kind of stuff but I would also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/789">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► say that even then that that's overwhelming yeah and it's it is so true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/792">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► to that you get a new app and you launch it and you're using this new thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/798">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► it's going to be send you notifications and it just says this app would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/804">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► send you notifications allow or disallow and then did your one time you say okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/808">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► yes I want to get these notifications that's super easy it's easy to opt-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/812">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► but then everything after that in terms of fine-tuning you know how much and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/816">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► just always seems like busy work and it would seem like a good idea when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/822">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► first install the app it's just sometimes can be one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/827">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► frog and slow boiling pot type things first you don't really notice and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/831">TS</a>]
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00:27:13 ◼ ► timing right they'll say well we actually had Windows Phone the idea but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► Android came out and a lot of the market and partners and etcetera and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1639">TS</a>]
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00:27:30 ◼ ► six years deep into the smartphone market now finally Microsoft is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► enough on the platform level to be in line with the competition and at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► point what does that matter right it's not necessarily pushing ahead the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1660">TS</a>]
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00:27:57 ◼ ► and Android as we see these updates coming in the next couple months like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1677">TS</a>]
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00:28:07 ◼ ► notification customization and all of these sorts of things that know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► will argue a whole I wonder where they got that idea from yo we're getting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► that point where it's so it is still relying on the apps that we have but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► they're still nothing that has pushed smartphones so far ahead into the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► and I'm not even sure I can't even imagine like I don't look at my friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► say I look at my phone and say these are the things I would want but they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► yeah it's just refinement refinement refinement refinement and and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► basic things but I don't think even for basic things i would i would switch to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► different platform if it didn't offer everything and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► yeah yeah somebody else pointed that out like post Google i/o is Google i/o was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► after WBC this year but you look at the checklist and there's you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► ten or fifteen things that you could see starting around 2011 or so that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► platforms needed to do to get to do more the stuff that there was everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► wanted a better notifications and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► on I West people wanted you know third-party keyboards and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► that and you could just see that the two companies you know Google and Apple they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► just had a different order different priorities of which ones they were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► to do first and eventually they just you know they both checked off all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► and some of them were first on Android and some were first time and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► getting to the point this year where they've sort of gotten to the bottom of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► that list not that there's nowhere for these things to improve but all the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► obvious ones from about four or five years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► they've gotten to write right and that you know that's one of the lines out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► this in this piece was like you know switching to Windows Phone at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► is like just getting a comfortable home your same comfortable home in and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► that right across the street that's basically the same thing there's no real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► reason to switch at this point plus you're not getting all those extras if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► those are important to you if those brand new apps if those updates to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► apps are extremely important to you there's there's no real reason to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► where you've been so comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► yeah and I think if you're an enthusiast and you're kind of you know the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► person who likes to get new apps and stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► follows new new new companies and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► Windows Phone has all that stuff you know like you you pointed out Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► which is great example where where Instagram was Iowa's only famously for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► first couple of years and then and then the Android version came out and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► know is huge and then it you know fueled the billion dollar acquisition by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► Facebook and eventually they're now there is Windows Phone version of it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► it was way after even the Android version and even now it still lags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► the latest version of Instagram has a bunch of new editing features that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► aren't in the windows from virgin right right and that's why you see that across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► apps like my Rdio app it's been like 10 minutes in the car trying to find my top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► where I usually go to find you know pop music and I could not find the playlist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► in the Windows Phone out there and I'm pretty sure it's out there but I gave up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► and I think you said that there's there's still not a lift up those from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► and I know what you call it was was late on Windows Phone Number you know and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► you're the sort of person who wants to use stuff like that like you've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► about hoover you're traveling you know you're in San Francisco vacation or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► business or something like that and everybody else is using Hooper and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► can't because you're using Windows Phone its like it's just a steady drip drop of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► annoyances of knowing that you're always going to be the last to get stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► this and you know what is announced later get second half of 2014 by 2015 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► I'm sure there will be a left app but then there's going to be something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► that's new that's only on iOS solely on Android totally and that and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► number one reservation I have about the platform but you know the funny thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► that I think maybe two years ago I would have said well this is an OK platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► this is an OK phone regardless for people who have not had a smartphone yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► it's a bit beginner phone but I think we're at this point when the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► where are ready those people have a phone and they probably have an iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► or they probably have a basic Android phone and it does this point those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► people don't want to switch so that's where I think so much of this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► timing game and you know it's it's unfortunate for Microsoft consider crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► for them but it's unfortunate that they got to get got together a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► operating system so late in the game because there are a lot of things here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► that I actually really like now and yes some of them are you doing the same as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► you get on others but you don't court on as a really nice blend of Syria and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► Google now I I like a lot of I like a lot of features that they built into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► Cortana I like a lot of things that when it comes to the customizations in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► notifications and all the basics you know based OS stuff it's just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► how much time I usually spending in that stuff and the thing I noticed when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► last spent some time with Windows fungible was when I was at the build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► conference back in May is an end windows from is always better to me than Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► in this regard but the latest I don't think we had a one yet maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► forget the version number but we're playing with funds I had as yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► unreleased version of it so maybe it was like an early version of 81 but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► little animations like stretching when you get to the bottom of the list and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► the balancing and stuff like that is so much nicer than stock Android it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► really good and the frame rates I mean just frame rates across the board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► it's really really snappy UI and it's something that Microsoft has been good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► at for a long time but it really shows yeah yeah and I want the keyboard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► mean yeah I will say that the one thing whenever I try switching to an Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2035">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► phone and this isn't better worse is it just habit but I've I find myself really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► struggling to type because I find the Android keyboard the least the default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► whereas windows from my my iOS typing habits I just instantly was typing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► well as they do on an iPhone it's fine I we've talked about this last time I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► on my keyboard situation I'm serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► keyboard problems and I i made the switch to the iPhone keyboard after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► using Android a physical QWERTY keyboard on the android phone for for three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► four years and now I'm great the iPhone and now when I go back to my moto access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► Android phone I'm really bad so I've been using SwiftKey which is better I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► actually really excited hoping swifty builds out for ISE but I still I I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► don't think I found the perfect software keyboard that said I'm I'm just gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► get that new BlackBerry that's in the shape of a square and I think that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► solve all my problems let's hold off I thank god that's not being released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2099">TS</a>]
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00:35:26 ◼ ► prescription eyewear simply should not cost three four five hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2126">TS</a>]
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00:35:48 ◼ ► so Warby Parker came into this market a few years ago and turned it upside down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2148">TS</a>]
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00:37:08 ◼ ► don't have your prescription lenses and it's like trying to restore they've send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2228">TS</a>]
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00:39:03 ◼ ► that but you think maybe maybe you're over physical keyboards now maybe your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► habits have finally switched I mean that they had they had to do we have to adapt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► so I had to adapt and I'm really fast on my iPhone now I'm actually really fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► on swift key to the phone can not be so slow my mother my motto axes really slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► now but I'm really fast my iPhone I'm excited about the iPhones predictive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► text stuff as well so I mean I can't say that I haven't done a typing test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► miiverse myself on the iPhone vs blackberry but that's a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► yeah but I i there's certain parts of user interface design where it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► more important or may not even almost but it is more important how fast you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► versus how fast you really are and if you feel like you're fast enough on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► iPhone that's really all that matters even if you found out that I got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► stopwatch still not as fast as you were on blackberry great so I famous example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► of this is I might but some of the details but this is a really old apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► story like from the eighties and I think I got the story from Bruce tug well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► just can't talk everybody knows tog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► human interface design guru has to be an apple and now he said whatever group and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► Apple used to used to test an awful lot of stuff in with cameras and behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► glass and just test real people doing stuff and what they found out is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► people were WAY faster like let's say they wanted to print it say make a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► document and Mac right and then going and when they would tell some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► people to use the mouse to file now down to print and tell other people to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2455">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► the keyboard shortcuts and they found that the mouse was using the mouse to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► up to file print was faster than using the command P to pray or files saved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► with the mouse was faster than commander US but then when they asked the users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► which was faster there was a unanimous today said using a keyboard shortcut was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► faster though when they first had the research said hey it always faster to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► use the menu they thought about getting rid of all the keyboard shortcuts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► saying forget all these keyboards look at what does make the israelis the mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► all the time because it faster but it felt slower and the best that they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► figure now is that when you when you use a keyboard shortcut it's like two parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► of your brain at once there's the first part where you have to remember the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► it is like you know you want to save this document and in your brain causes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► alright its command s use your use your left thumb put it on the command key and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2515">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► then you hit the ice and then you know well I did it might be different now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► because people are so used to computers who knows but that point is though that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► it ends up the people don't remember the time they spend remembering right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► keystroke it's like that didn't happen and so the only part that they feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► they remember is the actual using their fingers as I got a blank spot there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► where you don't remember I think I think it might be for a lot of people may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► for power users it's not true it's definitely not the case for me but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► think for typical people it might be but they still feel better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► the difference between learned yeah learned and whatever what they learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► action and what becomes habit yeah but you know like command command as may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► a bad example because for a lot of us we don't even think about it like my friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► Michael lopp Ranger imposed a heat when he's writing he just a right to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► animals thinking about what to write next his fingers just do command that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► because I old days when computer crashes were just bring down the whole computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► you know you were always 11 crash away from losing what you've written so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► there's not I i have that happen I thought that habit but now that I work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► so much in Google Docs I guess it kind of killed it happened to me it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► important thing like us on a Mac Mini Mac App even if it's not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► file-based if it's like some kind of thing just like a library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► you know type thing you should at least even if command s doesn't do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► don't be breaking like that and yes even if it isn't necessary if everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► type get saved automatically let me hit commanders say they feel better but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► that's now I have a horrible collapses like pathological Michael up command has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2630">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► yeah I mean even typing test and have to do a typing test when this when this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► BlackBerry comes out when that's happening I do think it's a shame this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► is another one of those things where it's like may be too late but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► man if only blackberry and come out with the phone in that form factor couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► years ago that was decent yeah I mean that's a big if the boy form factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► why's it really looks to me like hey here's somebody who's not just trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► copy the 2007 iPhone right but what I mean I know they've made seven arguments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► that the square shape in their aspect ratio of the screen is better for like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► think thats Excel documents yeah yeah really that's where I mean it's spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► on marketing message for them I guess program the exact where an Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2694">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► yeah sure the cameras yeah probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► well maybe part of part of the irony of Instagram lagging on Windows Phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► that Windows Phone as a platform is known for having good Cameras Cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► yeah I'd I mean that's actually one of the things that's hard about this HTC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► that you can get way better camera is on the lumières but I prefer the design of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► this HTC to the limit design yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► HTC is interesting you know I know words a little bit HCC is interesting company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► because I have said this for years and it sort of is it just goes to show how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► again you can see I say design is very important but it's not it doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► everything right and there's eight cc's a great example of a company who I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► has every year after year has produced better designed phones and Samsung just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► got just got annihilated in the market from the start from from the start of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► even even if you think about when those both of those companies were making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► you know when you think about what was it that HTC with the slider that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► really good phone diamond diamond was in that same family members and this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► goes back to that that the the sort of transition years when the iPhone had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► modern smartphone market to itself because Android wasn't out yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► Microsoft install on Windows Mobile you know 2007 2008 2009 HTC Tilt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► ACC ATC back then was they were by far and away the number one Windows Mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► Windows Mobile right but they were to Windows Mobile what like Samsung is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► absolutely they made these types of phones they the good keyboard and stylus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► that came out the other one after the tilt my memory was arrived with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► Windows Phone whatever they made great keyboards on these basically what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► getting at here is that I really want HTC and old slide-out keyboard phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► with Windows Phone apps that I want to use and I'll be happy I do think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► there's no better materials and Samsung I mean you know the there to some degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► I mean it's not the most important thing i mean it's it's it's not logical I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► guess to say how good does the phone look when it's not even on before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► even know what operating system is but for something you carry about with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► all day and all the time it matters I think you know does it feel good in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► hand and HTC's phones feel way better than Sampson's I mean I know now last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► week they announced this one that has a little bit of metal on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► it's almost like they're they're like four years behind their sort of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► iphone4s and for you know with the metal outside but the back is still plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► yeah I mean like even reviews I could I read all the you know the the reviews of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► these things I don't necessarily but even from people who are big fans and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► you know really glowing review of like a new Galaxy found it inevitably mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► you know kind of a cheap build quality feel to it I i i dont know I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► really read glowing reviews Samsung phone not recently not recently but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2935">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► mean it is it it was baffling to me how many more people I mean even appreciated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► the galaxy s4 design over the HTC One about two years ago people would even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► say even without all things that other things were equal people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► recommending the Samsung over the HTC and and part of that was marketing part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► of that might have been some of these software features that no one ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► figured out how to use and are not even in the phone but yeah I mean Samsung's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► biggest problem to me at this point is in hardware design it is a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► software designed by Galaxy Tab Asus a really nice piece of hardware if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► look inside the plastic backing that software is just a nightmare that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► one that has two sizes yet to decide exactly going head-to-head with the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► Mini right now with the air but they still have the build quality member the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/2995">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► one hand and how did I mean you know when you look at when you look at how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► thin it is and you think ok what they had to do so maybe some of those plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► tooling on the back and to make it a little bit later bad doesn't bother me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► as much as as as the software I think part of it too I do think part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► an institutional lack of taste because even materials aside even if you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► cost what we've got to build this out of plastic they've done things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► they've made the back look like fake leather and they even have fixed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► it's just tacky tacky but I think another thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► band-aid back either we're not going there I think another factor though is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► that they put out so many things here you know that they don't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► concentrate on one or two flagship new devices that I forget how many tablets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► Samsung has put out in the last calendar year somebody when they came out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► the tab best tally them all up and it's I did ya I don't remember I think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3055">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► like nine or ten actually said to my editor this morning he hears best I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► well there's a Barnes and Noble event tomorrow and they're releasing the tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► you know it according to the rumors it seems like they're releasing that tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► for with you know some Barnes and Noble software his lightweight the tab for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► dinner we just review that knows like no we we review the tab s right there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► think that when you when they put out that many devices if they put out 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► tablets here I don't know that they can ever put enough time into getting any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► one of them up to the standards that the people who seem like HTC devices Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► devices and even Nokia devices expect because it's too scattered right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► take that argument they made with the stab at they said this is this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► flagship tablet like just like the flagship phone the Galaxy S five for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► whatever they do every year this is the flagship tablet for these flagship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► a little bit more attention to that i mean i i imagine somewhere deep there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► they are really working on these software issues because the reviews are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► yeah but it's hard though because you can say we have to get better at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► software but doing it is a different thing and it's you know they've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► really shown an aptitude for it and it makes me wonder whether they might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► you know I don't know that that that what they're thinking but i would i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► would wonder whether they're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► some kind of big acquisition to get to bring in software talent that could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► know just hired figure out some but some company that does mobile software well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► enough and that's sort of scale that they could have enough people to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► and and bring in a new team because I don't think the people who are already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► there have any you know have shown anything that they're even on a path to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► getting where they need to be right or you know with the improved relations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► with Google and Google what what they seem to be doing is really cleaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/3186">TS</a>]
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01:35:31 ◼ ► and it's like that's one of them I mean if you can travelgate your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► why do you have a computer yeah it should be one of the first I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/5736">TS</a>]
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01:36:23 ◼ ► the trackpad the Magic Trackpad and I really like my heirs keyboards I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/5783">TS</a>]
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01:36:57 ◼ ► up what what kind of devices that I see so many people but always with PCs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/5817">TS</a>]
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01:43:35 ◼ ► in a speculation would Apple ever make a Mac with ARM processors and every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/6215">TS</a>]
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01:43:49 ◼ ► switch and start making laptops with ARM processors but they don't run Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/6229">TS</a>]
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01:43:59 ◼ ► surface where it's a cover that you detach the keyboard but an actual like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► MacBook Air form factor but it's running iOS and didn't but you know and and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuycMOrs/6244">TS</a>]
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