00:00:00 ◼ ► hello there must be a key game it was emotional and his extraordinary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/0">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► disappointing and because I was at the Yankee game today probably gonna sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/12">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► well you know they they they considered special events but they can't usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/19">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► now you know I'm gonna go on baseball we've got tons and tons of nerd stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/27">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► talk about but you know is bad that I don't even know why I haven't cuz its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/35">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► funny when you go to a game sometimes you don't like the cell phone reception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/40">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► is bad cuz theres 48,000 people trying to use the same network and tried in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/43">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► follow the Twitter I don't have been following the HEB writers I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/49">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► what the explanation is but the Yankees designated hitter today was Stephen Drew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/52">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► who is hitting 160 and has five home runs on the season they liked the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/58">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► of like off waivers by three weeks ago and they never printed form they got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/64">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► the end of the game and a man on first they're down by to andrew is up again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/70">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► and there's nobody on the bench and this is after the the roster expansion that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/74">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► how that's how that reminds me as a fan of a nationally team that this happens a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/79">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► lot when nationally teams again yes when they try to play in the American League [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/86">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► sometimes they liked their designated hitters just some guy who regularly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/91">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► fourth outfielder cuz they don't have a designated hitter so they like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/96">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► know this guy but there's like designate a classic designated hitter David Ortiz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/100">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► from the Reds right guy who's always gonna try to knock the hyde off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/106">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► bodies hit hard and probably a good header but at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/112">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► also a power hitter but in theory though you could put anybody like you could put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/115">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► each 0 there and he's not a power hitter but if you had an you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/119">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► no you're not you're like 9th best hitter if they were if the New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/123">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► Yankees this year where the Minnesota Twins or the Cleveland Indians or name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/131">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► any other team from you know someone in another country no offense to those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/137">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► teams I'm just saying a team that's not a perennial powerhouse and they had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/141">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► record and they had this lineup and these starting pitchers and nobody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/145">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► be paying any attention and would be a curiosity that their theoretically still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/150">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► in the wild-card race but nobody would ever know there wouldn't be like nightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/154">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► updates on ESPN about third where they are in the wild-card race it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/157">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► because of the Yankees and because there's one particular guy on the roster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/161">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► named Derek Jeter right which was the i mean that's kind of the point of of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/165">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► today so you know but it's true there they're not they're one of those teams I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/169">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► noticed the Padres are like six games out there something in the wild-card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/174">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► it's like the technically in it still kind of category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/178">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► people are really paying attention but there's something magical could happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/182">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► but probably won't but could yeah probably not I'm a little worried I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/187">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► a little worried by the end of the game that it's five games over five hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/193">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► and I actually think that that's a remarkable achievement given what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/197">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► happened to them they've had four out of the five starting pitchers on opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► day and had like season-ending injuries or almost injuries Pineda was out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/203">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► months we had remarkable that the team was four out of the five starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/210">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► possibly career-ending in the case assisi Sabathia injuries is five games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/216">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► over 500 that's remarkable but here's the thing I take where I came from today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/221">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► when I was very depressed in my thought is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► everybody's hoping that generally gets to finish the season may be chasing down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/228">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► a wildcard my fear is that he's gonna finish the season chasing down the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/233">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► ever losing season that he's had it can happen but then again they could be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/237">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► know sometimes again it depends on what your expectations I remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/244">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► there's a period in the early two thousands when the Giants were I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/249">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► they played like five or six years where they had like three games where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/255">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► were eliminated and most of those years into giant I think never won the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/258">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► Division two years in a row ever but there was something good about that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/263">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► would get eliminated the last week of the season and even if they did win the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/270">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► division of the wild card they they weren't playing meaningless games too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/274">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► late September and I realized that in some ways a low bar but I do kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/278">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► that the idea that you're always around and maybe some years you fall short in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/282">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► your five games out or whatever at the end but but you know when when that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/286">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► sort of fell apart in there are couple of years they were they were out in Lake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/290">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► the end of August it felt really strange because that's the thing you get used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/293">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► is you know at least one minute we might not make it but we were in it till [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/298">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► almost it's the end of the you know it's the football season it doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/301">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► anymore I actually that was actually one of the reasons I think as a boy that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/306">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► became a dallas Cowboys fan and one of my favorite things about my the tamil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/310">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► Andrea at Dallas Cowboys was that I believe the numbers twenty the day had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/314">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► twenty consecutive winning seasons they want at least nine out of the 16 games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/318">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► right and during that era clearly the dominant team of that era was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/322">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► Pittsburgh Steelers the Steelers I don't think you know that the Cowboys I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/327">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► took one from the Steelers but the Steelers beat the Cowboys more than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/331">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► you know the other way around and they won four in a row and you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/334">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► argue then afterwards that the 49ers supplanted the Cowboys the Joe Montana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/341">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► era 49ers and literally in one game you know there was like passing of the torch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/345">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► but the thing about that twenty consecutive winning seasons to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/352">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► that's that's incredible thing you know that's like amazing consistency I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/356">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► what Jeter I i'm just talking up the cover but I believe in at one point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/361">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► know it was true don't count last year because he only played 17 years because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/364">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► of the ankle but in all the get all the seasons he said four seasons with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/368">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► Yankees he's only played one meaningless game one time the last and it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/373">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► last ever game at Yankee Stadium the the old Yankee Stadium so it wasn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/378">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► meaning it was that that was the one game where they were now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► technically out of the playoffs but it was the last game at the house that Ruth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/387">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► Built so you could argue that it wasn't meaningless it was actually very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/391">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► emotional and Jeter gave a speech to completely sold out completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/395">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► you know the emotional crowd that's fine it just me or career that's the magic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/400">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► yeah I think there I think there's something to be said for being in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/406">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► and like I said that was a great era of the Giants when they when you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/409">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► count on on maybe one hand the number of meaningless games they played over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/415">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► coarsely for five years and they didn't win actually you know they've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/420">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► World Series one of those years and the rest of them I think they went the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► playoffs once in the rest of they didn't even make the playoffs but it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/427">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► things like you were playing out the string you when you were at the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/430">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► from meaningful and even if the you ended up on the wrong side of them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► were meaningful and that's why I know that some strange for especially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/435">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► label Championship is the only thing that'll that'll do but there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/439">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► something to going to a game and saying hey maybe something magical can happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/442">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► here versus like literally these are two teams that are going nowhere and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/446">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► yeah that's the worst is absolutely the Astros playing the Padres and but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/450">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► you know that's baseball you know and that's that's you know it's a sport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/457">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► where n you know getting a complaint about the wild card and everything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/460">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► it still even with the wild card and even with the expansion of the white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/463">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► card it's still a sport we're just making it to the postseason special I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/466">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► can't I can I can't fathom the sports like the NBA where it's almost hard not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/470">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► to make the piles you know whether it's just about seating and like clearing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/475">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► and then you're all playing you know then then you're in a tournament you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/481">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► might as well there's that one year where I think the NHL came back from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► strike and they literally just did a tournament that we give up who needs a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/488">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► season anyway busy weekend could be HUGE I don't even know where to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/493">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► I think it's so ever recording Sunday night we're gonna have a pair of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/500">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► tomorrow the people we listened in on Monday I think this is probably one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/506">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► those episodes where people won't wait around if you did in your weight around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/509">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► then you're listening to it after the fact but those are you listening on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/513">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► we're talking the prelude to to Apple's big but we don't know what event but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/521">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► can make some some pretty good gets its contract everybody thought it was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/527">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► to be an iPhone event and maybe something else too quickly zeroed into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/533">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► iPhones two iPhones and quote unquote a wearable which is funny because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/537">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► the event we always think of as the iPhone event and the iPhone is Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/545">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► biggest Product and this is by any measure and I you know I can only look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/549">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► at like I know what the Macworld traffic is like for the last few years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/553">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► people talk about 20 Apple event so big the iPhone event is of a scale in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/556">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► of general interest on the web that is beyond any other Apple event of the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/562">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► the iPhone event always pins the needle in a way that an iPad event were at WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/566">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► keynote just doesn't and so it's fascinating that everybody suddenly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/572">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► talking about the wearable thing because without it this would still be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/577">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► yes that's absolutely true and I i think what's weird about that I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/583">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► talking offline with Dave off the show not only show with my friend Dave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/591">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► whiskas about this over the weekend and we were talking about with with this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/596">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► the rumors that there's gonna be a wearable announcement call to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/602">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► doesn't matter but the idea rumor is that they're going to announce it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/607">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► then it won't be may not ship right away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/612">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► may not even ship in calendar 2014 might just be for whatever reason and we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/616">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► got to speculating well why would they pronounce something if it wasn't ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/621">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► to go on sale yet and in 2007 when the only time they really I can remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/624">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► them ever doing that like a significant lead time was with the original iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/630">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► yea yea whether we're that was done that predicts bone January and July or was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/634">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► june twenty-seventh it was summer it was it was late june if it was 28 and June [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/642">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► right that's why we need to chat room is of course there's somebody that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/650">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► remember that caused my family and I were going to summer camp and we made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► the reservations like a year in advance and I got the iPhone the day we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/657">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► supposed to leave for summer camp and so I reviewed the iPhone in a tent I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/661">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► what's funny I I went with Amy and her from her family to the shore and we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/666">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► my fam I finished I always go to Jersey Shore this was Ocean City Maryland where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/674">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► I'd never even been before the next day so I stayed up all night and wrote like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/679">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► a first thought and then we went to the shore and I was after I try to be a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/684">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► you know vacation or you know don't don't you know attached to the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/691">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► and you know stuff I usually do when I'm with my family but with a brand new I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/697">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► thought it was impossible it was impossible to think of anything other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/701">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► than the iPhone that was in my and yeah oh yeah I had and we have no cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/705">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► service at the campsite actually I did drive like 40 minutes down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/711">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► mountainside 22 tests like the phone part of it but it was deadly summer it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/715">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► was one of the things like Apple's remaining every every but his summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/720">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► vacation because that was late June and yeah and if you were going to extend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/723">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► like a weekend trip to the fourth of july it was right smack dab there at six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/727">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► months six four months I remember your review your review when you say you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/731">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► no cell service you don't mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/736">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► was like one bar whatever it was I don't know service says no service didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/737">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► have the AT&T lick no no it was a complete complete empty weight and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/743">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► yeah I i went down the mountain about 25 minutes and and and Sat pulled over by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/748">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► the side of the road basically when I had like a bar and made a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/752">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► calls and did some data just it was ridiculous but that was that was how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/757">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► can always remember that it was summer vacation read around the end of June [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► beginning of July and that was despite the fact that the event was Macworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/764">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► Expo so that was early January so is a huge process but that allowed them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/768">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► keep it secret right which i think is the scenario here with this wearable is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/772">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► that we all know not to get into more anecdotes but like I remember you went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/775">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► to New York I was sometime in California I went to Cupertino but they did those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/780">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► briefings for mountain lion and everybody walked into those briefings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/784">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► and basically was like what the hell are you guys talking about because there had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/788">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► been no rumors about it that there was going to be a new version of OS 10 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/793">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► soon as I remember it and G sigler afterward and we looked at each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/796">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► and both kinda mouth oh my god I hate and that's because you know Cupertino is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/800">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► pretty locked down and so the iPhone was pretty locked down because it wasn't in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/805">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► the supply chain yet and so many of these leaks like about the iPhone 6 come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/809">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► from the supply chain and is wearable isn't in the supply chain yet people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► talk about SEC approvals leaking things and that that may be true but also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/816">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► if you announce it early enough it's not outside Cupertino and maybe maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/822">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► know some theoretical parts are but the whole product is not in production and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/828">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► that means they can make that splash that you can only do that once right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/832">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► yeah that's exactly the point I was making over the weekend privately is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/835">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► that Steve Jobs is in this is what was thrown in my face was what Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/840">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► said in 2007 that the reason they were pronounced in the iPhone was FCC didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/846">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► want to have it come out there FCC regulations together now sit now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/850">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► gonna put it through the regulatory process they're going to put it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/854">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► the carrier testing process with with singular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/857">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► and that would spoil the secret and wanted to show it to us now and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/860">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► quite finished software wise but you know will be ready in six months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/864">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► that that would apply to a wearable cuz it wearable wouldn't need to get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/869">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► same regulatory stuff that a cell phone was which had don't know is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/873">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► actually I think maybe it does if it has I don't know what the regulations on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/876">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► radios and it has two thumbs and has NFC or why five of some kind of conductivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/881">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► presumably but I think it's more than that she hears I think there's a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/889">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► difference between 2014 and 2007 which is in 2007 as big a deal as Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/894">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► keynote swear to guys like me and you people who listen to the show people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/901">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► read macworld and Darren terrible we still hung on keynotes right we got up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/906">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► and got in line to get in the keynote at WBC or we'd listen to the live feed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/910">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► stuff like that but it was not that many people compared to today and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/916">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► no even all the speculation there are so many rumors sites to return always have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/921">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► been Apple rumor sites and Apple rumor sites have always been trying to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/926">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► know get the goods on upcoming stuff but there was nothing like the market of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/930">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► speculation 44 new iPhones and this pressure and I think it's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/935">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► clearly financial pressure that there there's money exchanging hands to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/940">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► these yeah prototypes and mockups and shell casings and screens and home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/945">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► screen buttons and you know it is everything has leaked I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/952">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► that we know everything that the phones gonna do but at least the parts of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► leaked I mean they'll be update somebody or find literally like here's the volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/958">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► buttons of the new iPhone yeah and you know and the last couple of years the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/963">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► first couple of years when I started having everybody was like to be fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/968">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► fake fake and ends up its I can let you know that was actually right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/971">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► chain just a mean I think the economics of the people working in the supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/975">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► chain which is almost entirely in Asia almost entirely in China you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/980">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► there so many people involved and you know culturally it doesn't take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/986">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► much for somebody who's been not being paid very much to get paid a bribe basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/990">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► to slide one of the 15 samples they've got to somebody else and I and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/995">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► thats how business gets done I mean I really try not to judge this because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► think by their their cultural standards it's not that big a deal that's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► how business kids turn and have competition happens but from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► perspective it's you know antithetical to what they want to do right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► they have to do and they do it now the sea they can't pronounce the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► that's why I've been avoiding the term the iPhone 6 because I don't know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► was gonna call it and I you know that they would certainly didn't predict that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► they would stop numbering iPad tried they said iPad iPad 2 and then they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► went back to new iPad and an iPad air and iPad Mini 2 I'm you know they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► stuck with this numbering and then to connect after the number system for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► while but I have not making any predictions as to me but I'll just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► short and they couldn't they can announced the iPhone 66 months in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► advance to avoid these supply chain links be leaks because they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► avoid the Osborne affect the evening iPad was a two-month window between ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► that same deal because they weren't cannibalizing some other product when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► they did it but now that one that product starts the clock starts ticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► then you've gotta you gotta ship it fast because nobody's buying it between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► day you announced in the day you ship it because so for example and I'm sure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► i've spoken to Apple store employees and people who worked at Apple stores you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► know have written to me it's possible that people come in all the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► they're like hey I hear there's a new iPhone and they can honestly say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► don't know anything about it they don't tell us stuff like that we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► here's the iPhones we have today I can tell you all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► if they pronounce it in June and then somebody comes in in July and says I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► hear there's gonna be a big iPhone coming out I'd like that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► interesting to me to be honest they would have to say yeah you're right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► you know we've announced its coming in September layaway plan for yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► we'll see then they can't do that you know I think and and as big as the iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► was often when I'm on his podcast I often start mixing up my ipod but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► iPod really the music player as big as it was and as much as it kind of made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► the household company outside them a community that it became a decade ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► you know we all used to make jokes when Apple's for started opening retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► stores and you be walking through the mall and you hear kids say mom i wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► go to the iPod story right but I mean I heard that several times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► the iPod was nothing like the iPhone iPad there is no no market like this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► oh my god here's the pre-release you know screen of the new iPod or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► here's the here's the new circle rocker what we call that was that thing called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► the click wheel yet you know the people even people who think they're followed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► this stuff don't always understand the scale of the iPhone that like I think ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► this could be wrong but like I think your your run of the mill brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► iPhone model probably sells more than the entire iPod line as ever sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► probably in just a couple of months I mean the scale is is it's not even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► same number scale the iPhone is so much more popular product then even the iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► was in its heyday yeah it's just unfathomable and and this pressure is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► end like from that I think it's largely from its not from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► the I think I don't think it's from the rumor sites the people who publish these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► leaks I don't think that the money that they get from the page views that come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► in that report comes close to covering the sort of guy I'd like you and want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► pass judgment but effectively the bribery that's going on and that in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► cases it's the i think is the case makers because there there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► pressure to get your case to market and Apple isn't going to tell them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► measurements of the new phone until it out and and and i get i mean we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► there are cases like for the new iPhone that are being I get PR sometimes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► people who say we've got the new iPhone case weeks before the new iPhone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► even been announced because they're confident and then and then in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► business I think there's this feeling like if I can make 75,000 silicone cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► based on these dimensions that I think are accurate and I can ship them into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► the channel in advance then the data that phone drops will be there and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► and somebody's gonna be there in a better be on us because if we wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► make sure it's right somebody's gonna beat us to the punch and so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► motivated to get it right and I'm sure there are times when they don't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► right but I think they take the gamble because if the if they're Intel is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► and the mold that they've made based entirely on parts and hearsay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► whatever if it fits then they can't immediately ship it to the channel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► sell those and strike while the iron is hot and so they're motivated to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► yeah exactly and you know the other one I linked him up last week I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► their name is Sheldon Ross it's this room I think they're Russian child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► got a failed evoke dot com fel de vol K dot com and they don't make cases where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► they do is they take iPhone 5 cases against new ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► anodized aluminum two new colors they come back and put in like actual not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► like a wood case they actually put like a wood panel in the back or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► flower pattern and they they pick up the volume buttons and replace them with 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► karat gold and silence rocker buttons and sell them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► resell them for like nine thousand dollars and I heard from people and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► never heard of them before I mean it just seems crazy but apparently it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► big thing like in moscow like all the the oligarchs are into these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► because they're its agriculture you know where these crazy billionaire russians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► want people to know they have $10,000 iPhones but is not better than those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► that crazy luxury I can't remember the name of you know the virtue virtue you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► writing this is like a competitive that we think it's a real iPhone but we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► actually taken the parts but again there's that you you've got then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► really want to know what the shape of the parts are in advance so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► start working on right and they had of super high quality video like sure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► made like a commercial has their clients really want the new iPhone when it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► out right now gotta have their mold done in advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► even though that's impossible right so right that does blood supply chain is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► logical place to go I also think perhaps that their competitors you know Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► competitors wanna know ya doing it so they're paying but all the stuff then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► eventually just sort of leaks around the edges and you end up with these YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► videos that are at like somebody speaking in English posted on YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► site or even like on Chinese social network I there was an iPhone 6 video on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► on one of the Chinese social networks that country posted to YouTube and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► know yeah it's not MacRumors paying these people now mark mark fuhrman isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► paying these people it's it's it's it's the people paying like who are much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► closely attached to the supply chain and they just they really there's a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► and it's crazy it's it's really kind of naughty and nice phones with gold vol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► rockers yeah let me take a sponsoring a comeback but the point I want to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► back to you and tell you in advance cuz I often forget by the time I get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► end of a sponsor break though is that most of them don't turn on but then all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► of a sudden like in the last two days we're starting to see friends like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► said there's apparently a fully working 4.7 inch one that actually turned on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► and runs iOS a which is crazy but I tell about our friends at igloo longtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► igloo is the internet that you'll actually liked and they have a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► exciting release that brand new called unicorn we've talked about their unicorn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► update on the show before as a ton of new features but the best is integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► task management that will change how you stay on track with your work include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► tasks can be assigned different ways depending on the way on the work you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► doing one of the course ways to use tasks is creating them directly on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► content so you're requesting updates on a graph that somebody on your team is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► working on or a text correction in a Word document you create these tasks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► right on your content in the igloo interface and then when the designer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1555">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► goes to update the graphic and they go through it would get to it the task what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► you want changed is right there on the same page so when you're viewing content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► even if it's a blog if it's an event forum topic insider a blue the tasks are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► all right there so the stuff that you need to be done is right there attach to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► wherever you go find out more too great stuff all the other stuff about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► also true all sorts of great templates to choose from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► the fact that it runs it your private Internet that you get to run the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► that you get to start for free for up to 10 people and just use unlimited time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► where to go to find out more this is it a good software dot com slash the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► talk-show igloo software dot com slash the talk show great great internet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► now they're really with this task stuff really making it into a project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1616">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► management system for your small teams and organizations to my texts so in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► past we've seen these leaks come out and then they always I think there was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► about a week or two ago breadth at least turned on to the point where it's showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► the connect to itunes right right and it was funny because somebody then took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► screenshots of that and like kind of estimated the measurement of the graphic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► as the graphic had like letterboxing at the top and bottom and a rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► estimation is that it was it might be very very close to the size that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► predicted a few weeks ago but didn't make sense that in other words it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► same pixel per inch as the iPhone 5 and five years but just they just cut it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► four point seven inches but now there's one coming out there actually fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► operational Deathstars yeah I mean I don't know enough about the production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► cycle but I would imagine very late in the game they're producing first off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► producing like test units and then there you know there was a story about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► iPhone shipments were already feeling planes from China to North America you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► know at some point they're making them they haven't announced it yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► they've gotta get him here in there and and around the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► assuming that they're going to drop them in a lot of countries in a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► weeks they've gotta start shipping them now so once that I mean imogene is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► completely out of the bottle and it's going to be a lot easier to to plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► something off the production line is probably an earlier waves that are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► the the production models to see if the process works and if the quality level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► is high enough and those probably leaked so this is probably a life cycle and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► never thought of it this way of life cycle of leaks where you know it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► with all the suppliers and in the end it's the assembly and when it's then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► that starts to be working models yeah I think I think they must be making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► real ones by now you've got to be given the volumes i mean we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► how huge the iPhone volume is how much demand there is on day one then they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► got to be making that's why when I saw that story about about how you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► there are already a lot about shipments coming from China that it's got a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► know it's completely believable because they've got you know let's assume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► in less than two weeks they're gonna be on sale they're gonna want to fill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► channel with as many as they can possibly make and so yeah they're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► them now we don't even know what what they are yet but they're making them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► shipping them the story I saw I'm sure he said someone is that they've actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► it right now they've consumed like a majority share of all shipping capacity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► coming out of China right right that Apple AAPL is literally like filling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► channel and it's not like it's channel it's like a shipping channel from China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► it's crazy that you know there's only so many planes they're not gonna say they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► can't it's not the sort of thing that you can buy more right and it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1794">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► make sense for the shipping industry to have enough planes to meet this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► particular demand and I end and then the other forty seven weeks of the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► they're sitting inert you know airplane hangars that you know also I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► sometimes about like a build-to-order can sometimes you know your apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► website you can actually see it gets shipped to you that you'd actually if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► that if that's gonna be an option you want to ship these early cuz these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► the ones that are going to retail and that at some point if they turn on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► pre-orders those would be shipping from China let's say but you know you now now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► is the time to fill the the channel with the ones that are just in the standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► standard can fix or maybe they're all standard configs and they've got every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► single one possible but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► what they're doing is they're filling their feeling warehouses they're filling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► capacity and and we know that Apple usually can sell every single one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► they've got and sometimes people are angriest when they can't get the model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► they want so it makes sense but it it's mind-boggling again we talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► scale of iPhones and how it's hard to understand just how huge the iPhone is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► think this fits into wearable expectations and how I think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► expect more than that it can possibly deliver because it's never gonna be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► think an iPhone like the iPhone this enormous so enormous that we could take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► every bit of shipping capacity from China aus and Apple is doing it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► and I don't know that there's any product that they could make that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► that that there's no other product that I can imagine that would happen for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► there's no other product category I mean this is this is this is there been some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► really nice pieces written about this but this idea that somebody actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► said you could write the disappointment story like six months ago about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► wearable no matter what it is because people are going to say if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► expectation is that it's literally another product category like the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► that's not going to happen because there's no product category like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► iPhone smartphones in general are enormous this this huge class it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1916">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► it's a shift in how the world uses technology and you know and and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► Apple's product line you can see the iPhone is just do it works everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► else they do and that's not gonna change there's not gonna be another category in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► the next year or two that supplanted or matches even because it's it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► completely out of scale cuz there's such demand for smartphones yeah I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► think it plays into haven't written up but I may be over but a lot of times I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► talked about it in the show and I don't write it but I've been taken for months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► now about and I i three years I've been bothered by the whole smartphone versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► phone distinction and it's so misleading and that you know Apple's percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► like how many more they're selling year over year versus their share of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► smartphone market right and they're very misleading things because the smartphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► market is great even though Apple's iPhone business has been growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► steadily every single year mark phone market has grown even faster overall and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► that's simply because all phones are turning into smartphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► ridiculous rape because it's getting so cheap to make something that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► qualify as a smartphone right and it's really just this bizarre distinction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► me it's like this like a distinction between phones with black-and-white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► screens and color screen like my you know my first cell phone how black and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► white screen and eventually even the cheap $15 candy bar phones had color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► screens because eventually the color screens got so cheap that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► they could do that it didn't make sense to talk about somebody share of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► color phone market even know for a while those phones were more expensive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► more profitable because you know for a year or two there were like an exotic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► crazy things like look that crazy little java game I play on my phone is in color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2035">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► members of some of those games like quicksand whatever oh yeah I had one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► those that was like a Sony Ericsson where it was terrible I had a bowling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► game that was like my go-to bowling game I had a bowling game on my own you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► and Horace did you and others who are more analysts you know more rigorous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► statistically the number and the number of guys right have explained it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► painstaking detail that it's you know it is interesting that that the smartphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► market the percentage of all phones sold that our smartphones is growing faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► than anyone company's share of the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► but really dead to me it's just that we should just start calling them phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► and data phone is a thing that's a computer in your pocket so my daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► when my daughter went to middle school we got her phone and it's a it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► smartphone and and yet I think by the standards of maybe four or five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2094">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► it would have been considered a like a super featured phone because it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► I think it doesn't have data but it has a full BlackBerry Style texting keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► I mean it's not just like numbers it's got a whole you know QWERTY keyboard on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► it and it's got a color screen and it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► I think you can install some software you can set up your install an end it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► not a smartphone as we consider it but it's not that far off and that was three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► years ago so I would imagine and she's you know we're gonna end up putting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► our plan and giving her my old iPhone 5 I think yeah but but you know so when my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► son starts middle school next year one point is that phone at some point very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► soon it is just easier for all concerned if that is you know if the cheap phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► they offer for kids is the cheapest Android phone that they've got rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► than some we're just having to maintain some weird other platform of these dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2155">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► phones they just at some point they'll just give up at least in in in the USA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► of the richer countries and at that point it won't be anything that isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► smartphone yeah and it's so there's like two interesting things that fall out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► that the first is that if you go back to 2007 and you think about the iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► undersold the device vastly because it really wasn't a phone it was a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► and internet connected computer in your plans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► it was amazing and it happened to me also work on the standard cell phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► network and make him place phone calls and let you know for example one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► key features of that first one huge part of the demo was visual voicemail because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► it and what did that do you deal with your voicemail the way modern graphical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► computers deal with messages right and so at first calling it a phone or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► phone or the iPhone was really selling it short because it wasn't what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► thought of as a phone it was really truly was what we think of what we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► been thought of as a personal computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► whereas now lo these seven years later when we say phone we mean we don't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► a device that's just for phone calls we mean a computer right if you say I let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► somebody who says you get you know you arrive at a restaurant youth group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► friends and you you took it over and you get out and services I left my phone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► the car you know what they left in the car they didn't leave a cell phone they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► left like an iPhone or an Android it whatever it was it has apps and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► you know nobody when they say I left my phone in the car means they left a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► device that only makes phone calls and text messages and as landlines died the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► whole concept of anything else a phone could be just disappears and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► phone is not perhaps the best term to use for these devices but I kinda feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► like it's the one that it's you know one of those cases where the word involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► to mean something completely different but because it's supplanting the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► took its name from the dead will call in and at some point people gonna be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► this is weird why do we call the phone and some days it will actually let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► tell you that the 20th century in the phone and that's where it came from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► people like wow I don't even know why why would you do that and the answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► well it was a series of small steps and at no point did somebody say this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► a phone anymore because we had to explain what it was two people who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► their entire frame of reference with the concept of a phone talking on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► is like one of the least interesting things that I do when my phone and least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► common the least pleasant it's the only thing it's out of a doc i I finally got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► steamed I think maybe even by by you is a conversation on the on Twitter I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► and I realized why is the phone app even in my doc on my iPhone I never have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► I have a doc my dad took it out my dog is messages that spur there's an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► Safari and tweet but that's honest Vesper really is in my mind I have mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► Sephora Twitterrific and overcast my doc very close down there but it's not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► the dog but but the I yanked thrown out because frankly if somebody calls me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► don't need to launch to happen and if I call somebody I know where I know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► people so ultimately but yes so I feel like the name is gonna be phone now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► doubt we'll ever change will just call them phones phone doesn't mean what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► meant it's the way language involves it involves in ways that the computer is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► true very true that the the Great Divide in like dictionaries is prescriptive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► -ism vs descriptive whereas should a dictionary prescribed here is how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► should use all of the words is here is what they mean or should it described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► here is what people mean when they use these words and in some cases you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► maybe you know with italic say this isn't this is informal this is slang but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► you're just describing the use of the word and sometimes those informal uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► of the word are you so much that they become a new sense of the word and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► think that's where we are with phone where maybe for the first couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► years calling the iPhone iPhone would in dictionary terms be informal you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► and people who knew what you were talking about would get it but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► we're at the point now where it's like time to add a new number two what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► phone mean you know a new energy meaning number for right pocket computers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► is connected to his cellular networks and wi-fi and can install apps it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► feels like the ship has sailed we're not going to suddenly say okay everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► stop on january first we're stuck on phones and we're gonna call them or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► know communicators and the prescriptive this will fight it tooth and nail all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► the way down so it doesn't matter that's the language is like water it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► trying to stop running water with your hands it's going to happen anyway but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► the point of all the point of this whole reason this inspired it is your point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► about how big the iPhone is in the phone market is is that the phone is the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► thinking of it as a phone not thinking it was a smartphone but just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► phone meaning a cell phone is the only thing I can think of on the planet where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► almost everybody who could have one does or will ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► yes every you could argue that it will be the first piece of high technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► that will be in possession of I don't know ninety percent of the human beings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► on earth because you look at the way this technology is is spreading in parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► of the world that are not traditionally high-tech society places that are poorer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► like Africa as a really great example where we've already seen Lake wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► technology leap over wired technology because you don't need the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► infrastructure used to need an end and the internet at some point will be their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► experience with the internet will be in a phone screen not on a computer but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► a phone screen because that that is a device that is going to be cheap enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► gonna be able to attach file the wireless network that that is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► be available and as a result will be more transformative as a whole I mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► can think about how the internet changed all of our lives in computers and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► that but like the average human being on planet Earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► the phone is gonna be the thing that is transformative because gonna reach way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► more people and I think it's really interact think it was on pace for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► but when it was just voice and texting right then it was a phone to phone and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2576">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► think it was already on pace to you know if their seven billion people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► planet and I don't know why I may be missing the mark on how many people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► you know very elderly or babies right were very very very truly truly poor but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► let's say five billion of them could have a cell phone it's getting very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► close to the point where that's true you know where there's you know billions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► cell phones in use and everybody's gonna have one and everybody because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► nature of the thing that you're banging around your pocket even if you take care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► of it you know every couple of years you're going to get a new right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► not going to be like your TV sets were people by TV sets in use them for 15 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► cell phones are like maybe eventually but their way to write right now not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► you know the world we live in where every year there's a new iPhone you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► so the size of this market is i i truly wonder if it even really occurred to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► Apple you know in 2005 2006 in the run-up to the iPhone just how big the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► potential is there i dont no I mean on one level I think they had the vision of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► how this was a big deal and this was gonna make a difference but it is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► have to really be you have to buy in all the way to really believe like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► the future and and I kind of feel like that's that was so far away at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► point that they couldn't really you know you could you maybe treatment but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► could really see it and now you can see it back then it was more like imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► what would happen if we could pack all the stuff in there and then the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► saw that and said oh well this is it and now every device in this class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► follows their lead and now the world is is changing because I was a moment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► late like you said you know sure we coulda said 55 billion people are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► to have phones but what it would have meant was they can call somebody and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► it's they can be on the internet with that devised I still think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► interesting and I remember this clearly is that in in that initial keynote Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► Jobs he gave goals for what they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► and he said we would like you know with by a year from now we would like to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► one percent of the phone market right and it was and that's what he said he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► didn't say one percent of the smartphone market he said one percent of the cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► phone market and that's one area where I truly think that Apple and Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► clearly got it because what was then called us quote unquote smartphone was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► not the Apple had no interest in it whatsoever they saw that is it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► as much garbage is the plain old non smartphones that came before it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► it wasn't worth thinking about it was worth thinking about just plain phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► because my phone is something everybody will have an everybody only has 11 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► the real question is with it with the wearable stuff is that what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► thinking which i think i think is the right thing to think which is not how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► we get how do we address the SmartWatch market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► thinking can can you think of something bigger that is more addressable then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► then you know i i have a pebble and I i actually wear it most days and I can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► have seen you wearing your and I think it's fine I like the notifications on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► risk is it means I can ignore a lot of notifications that I would otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► protect my phone but you know it feels like I used to have a Palm Treo rain I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► it feels like that it feels like a thing that's cool and interesting but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► kind of a hack and in hindsight is going to be seen as the thing that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► before the real thing I don't have a trio I had the chance bring bodies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► like internet right but I was really into it I did I give it like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► yeah yeah I gave it like a full year where I was taking all my notes on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► sink in my stuff over forget how he's a real yeah it was a serial cable yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2814">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► yeah so that's the the public feels like it to me it feels like the Maitreya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► where which like its cool at the time but I am under no illusion that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► the end product of this category because it's not it's an early adopter let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► experiment and it's exactly the kind of product that Apple would never make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► because it's not really a product for regular people it's a product for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► like me who want to you know try it out and think about what this might mean but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► its cool new tech but it's not it's just not good enough in the trio was kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► like that it wasn't really good enough it was a weird it was a PDA attached to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► a cell phone and it was not good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► you know but it was ahead of its time it was definitely was cutting edge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► you know somebody had to think of it first before you get there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► exactly well let's take a break and we'll come back to that question of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► big and where I think the wearable things going but let me tell you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► our second sponsor good friends at fracture our acct you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► fracture I feel like with my boys like I'm not announced any enunciate clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► there's a fractured they respond sorrow a while back maybe you remember them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► you send them your picture they printed super high quality on glass and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► they ship that wrecked you it's not a picture framed in class it is a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► glass with the picture printed right on best way I can describe it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► difference between like the old iPhones when it looked like a touch there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► this piece of glass over the screen and then when the iPhone 4 came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► it looked like the pixels were actually on the screen and that they you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► wasn't two pieces laminated together is like one piece that's what they do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► fractured they actually print the photo on the glass and it's a really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► effect it looks so much better than a picture underneath class very very cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► they have all sorts of sizes available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► everything from little small things for your desk to big things that you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► on the wall they ship them to you in a really cool thing and you don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► need to frame the picture itself can be hung around on the wall and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► looks cool it's just this piece of glass that is a photo that you can just hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► on a wall and they look great without a frame you don't need to put a frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► around them really great the whole thing what you buy what they should do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► open the box on the wall and it looks great great idea for gifts I'm totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► gonna steal this idea from Marco Arment one last week's ATP mention that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► time he makes a new app before he sells it to somebody else he celebrates by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► getting the app's icon five by five fracture and hang them up on his wall to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► anybody out there is like a developer great idea and it looks great I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► seen among Marcos wall they look beautiful so you don't couldn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► that's sort of an edge case but they look great even if it's not a photo it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► just really really great we have a bunch of here in Aus and there's some of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► favorite pictures where do you go to find out more easy their website is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► fracture me.com fracture me.com and if you use this code the talk show you save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► 5% off any order just to save money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► the talk show go to fracture me send a couple pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► get a couple back see what I mean by Christmas you'll be ordering everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► in your family fractured pictures it's great service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► back to the show just how big is the wearable market I don't know why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► honestly don't kiss here's what I think I think I think if anything if it's big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► it might be sort of the opposite of the iPhone where the iPhone has been this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► like here's one new iPhone a year here is the iPhone for the next year if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► wearable thing is big I think it could be like there's fifteen different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► wearables from Apple to choose from you know and maybe collectively they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► pretty big and have a range in prices but that it might be so for example just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► you know just think about the old iPods iPads were big and there were you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► 45 of them right there was a little nano-sized thing a little clip on thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► that did the screen there was like the main regular one that was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► mid-size and then there was the big one and I stay still have that lineup we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► just don't get excited about them but it could be that sort of thing and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► one or two of them are watches and one or two of them or something elses and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► yeah i i dont really know what to think of it this market either other than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3115">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► caution that it's not going to be the size of the phone market because nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► is and feeling like it's gonna be and accessories like it feels to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► this is a device you know if there is something on your wrist it's a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► that's meant to work with the iPhone and that actually makes it logically part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► the iPhone event to talk about it that the iPhone is the center the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► it's a little bit like the old digital hub story that Steve Jobs told back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► 2000 except the center of the hub now is the iPhone the iPhones with you all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► time it's got the high speed connection and then you can have something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► this whether it's one sensor that's on your wrist or whether it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► constellation of different things on your body and in your house and wherever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► else and they all go talk to your iPhone and your iPhone collects the data and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► related things to the internet and all that but you know it doesn't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► you know again it feels like it's about accessories it's about adding on not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► a category that is breaking entirely new ground you know it's hard it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► even think about this cuz its owner 22 its technology and its passion and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► do think it's going to rely on the iPhone to to some degree so this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► question of like how many of these are going to be sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► how many how often is a person expected to buy one of these if you buy something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► and put it on your wrist are you expecting to have it there for a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► two years five years I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► yeah and you know it's funny I have been the same way that I've avoided using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► phrase iPhone 6 our tribes tried to wherever practical I avoided a certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► avoid I think I've never used the word i watch yeah it's kinda have tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► avoid calling it a watch I've been calling it a wearable and I knew you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► know I I know for a fact that they're working on you know some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► wearable stuff for a while but I didn't know any more now and I didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► assume watch and I heard some people say it's a watch and I thought all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► that's a possibility and obviously there's a lot of companies in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► twelve months they've been active making smart watches like all that said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► seems like in the run-up to this event there's certainly a lot more smoke you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► know in terms of you know my by triangulating these rumors I often just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► subscribe to if there's enough smoke there there's got to be some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► fire and there's an awful lot of smoke specifically that it's a watch or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► watches I guess is that actually work you know I think Nick Bilton I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► from the other was a branch nie yeah it looks like we're at the point now where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► it's it's and Jessica lessen its leaks encounter leaks and that some of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► is about Apple this late in the game it's also about Apple trying to set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► expectations so I definitely there's so much smoke here that there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► there isn't isn't fire but if it really is a watch and I think that's still even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► right now you know and I guess said there's a lot of people are listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► this podcast prob possibly after the event so angela has you and I are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► speaking on Sunday night we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► I still think if it's a watch the worldwatch has so many expectations like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► by watch they do not expect to replace a watch every two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► people buy a watch and the expected things to let us and if it's expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► they really expected to last you know and there was a leak forget who had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► that you know somebody said that Apple's considering a $400 price point and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► makes me laugh in one way it makes me think and another because if it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► that it's 404 they're thinking about 400 then I think it it's not an accessory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► right I think 400 bucks here in the range of something that's sort of got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► stand on its own I don't know depends on what accessory means I mean it may just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► be that to get on the internet and things like that it really needs to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► to a phone a wifi connection or something not be a cell phone but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► it's more than it's more than an impulse buy it four hundred it you really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► high expectations with that devices gonna do the part that made me laugh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► though was the 2010 Wall Street Journal story about Apple's tablet efforts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► said that they're considering a $999 that's where I that's where my thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► went to which is it almost feels like an attempt to set the bar high so when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► real prices revealed everybody is relieved I remember at the iPod I perry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► did it the iPad in true original iPad in true and they're like you know the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► spiel you know it's kind of fit between this and there's a reason for it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► be better than anything at this and it all made sense and it they showed it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► it was like wow that looks great you know I cannot wait to see this time this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► looks super exciting this looks really cool and the whole time I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► it's got to be $999 look at it it's like a Mac you know and it's super thin and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► know that making it that then is expensive right it's like this thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► cooler than any MacBook and may not be faster than it because I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► it's cooler than any MacBooks gotta be $9.99 and then when they do you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► starting price is 499 I remember that room it was it was easily the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► moment the most exciting moment of that event had nothing to do with the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► iPad even know there was lots of exciting about it and lots of it most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► it had had been completely secret but when he when they drop that price it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► John dry mean people gasped and not just because the device was cool but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► that 999 number it come out and the wall street journal and everybody was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► you know well what does it mean it will people buy it for $9.99 and that was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► framed around that price and that's exactly where my mind went with with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► rumor is like is that a real price or is that the the the price that gets out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► there so that when they announced that its really 300 instead of saying WOW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► $300 price you say oh my god I can't believe it's only 300 let me know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► whether that's true or not but it is that feel to it right right you know 199 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► wow people are going to get in line for it because you know electronics aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► and the gadgetry and all the health centers and stuff presumably that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► thing as but fits don't cost that much you know I mean there's no you can't buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► like a Rolex for $199 but you can buy what most people would consider pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► nice watch for under 999 yes you know it's it's again it's not jewelry it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► not true luxury its mass-market luxury but I actually have a a watching my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► Amazon cart and because I was thinking of replacing my old watch and it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3536">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► pretty nice and it's 30 bucks and my wife actually instead by me out watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► like Macy's or something and it's a very nice watch but it's it's probably $150 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► watch it's not right you know you can go to go to store like Macy's and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► look at the show for you know at those prices Apple could make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► a profitable device but it's a lot more than most people will spend on watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► you know so it's you know so somebody who does collect you know Rolex or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► watches my tent will 199 that's unrelated luxury watch but most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► would think wow this is gonna be the most expensive watch everybody but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► can't wait to have it I could totally see it that way I don't you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► know it's a it's a strange and the fact that Apple has hired all of these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► who come from like luxury brands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► it it makes you wonder on one level on yet sometimes I i think we take that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► literally is on a grand scale Apple is a luxury brand and that having them having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► them at Apple doesn't necessarily mean that they're making $1000 gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► SmartWatch it doesn't follow that that is the case but it does make me wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► you know especially since this is replaceable technology this is not stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► it's gonna be valid in seven years or five years maybe or four years even what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► this product is cos cos if it's a luxury product and it's beautiful whats its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► shelf life how long is a reasonable amount of time like I have my dad's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► Rolex that he bought in Switzerland in the sixties and early sixties and it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► know I've had it like cleaned and stuff but you gave it to me a few years before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► he died and it's beautiful and you know it's from fifty-plus years ago and works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► fine these things are not going to be like that even if they're great and made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► with wonderful materials and the leather in the middle and all of that is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► the electronic stuff is going to be surpassed in a year and it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► interesting like you would a pass that down to your son know and have it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► interesting fifty years from now it might be an interesting like history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► item but it's not something you would wear for a night out right and think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► now circle back to the discussion we just had about how the word phone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► and it doesn't mean you know what our parents mean like my dad you know thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► a phone is the thing that's going to the wall right howie curly cord talk to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► about baseball the same exact thing could happen to the word watch right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► where right now today a watch means this thing like you're talking about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► where were you talk about a nice watch you're talking about a thing that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► dad could have bought in 1962 and which is like still in perfect working order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► and serviceable and has enormous emotional resonance with you because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► know he's not with us anymore right now it's it's you know it's a priceless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► artifact a great watch can take on a totally new me that involves past that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► we're even it could happen quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► happen quickly it happened with the word phone or even ten fifteen years from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► watch doesn't mean that anymore watch means computerize arrest right computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► in your wrist with an expectation that it's collecting data about your health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► and it's telling you when something important is happening and yeah it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► it could do that I think I think that's what makes the story so fascinating is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► again we're looking at something we've seen some companies try this and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► done some interesting things they're definitely interesting the pieces are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► all there for something interesting but there's one the question of how you mix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► them together and two is that thing then something that people actually want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► because I i talked to a lot of people who say they don't wear a watch with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► stopper they never worldwatch and so what do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► is Apple trying to motivate people to strap something on their wrists and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► what's the value you get out of doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► well I see that's very to me that's a super interesting question because is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► better for you to be a watch we're already and an apple just has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► convince you to get their watch and replace yours with theirs or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► better if you're not and you've got an open rest right watchu mean anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► you right you got it open rest they don't even have to convince you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► you're that the Apple watch is better than your Fossil watch that you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3833">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► Rolex that you're wearing you know that cost 10 times more if you have an open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► rest maybe it's a wide-open thing because it's solving an entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► different problem it it's you know your your Fossil watch or your vato or you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► you know is primarily to just telling you the time and maybe that's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► what the watch does like that's one of the things I wonder like all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► smart watches start with the idea that by default you just look at the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► or like what the public have to turn it on right right is always on but you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► to do something to make it light up if it's if it's dark right right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► primarily the first thing it's doing is telling you the time and what if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► wasn't the baseline right what if that's not the baseline what if it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► that you know and there's rumors that it has that this Apple thing has a color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► screen than that it's going to run apps and that's probably running iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► there's no way there is no way I was going to a black-and-white no way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► impossible to it has a Display must be a color display and all these other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► like the the Moto 360 you know came out this week or ship this week finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► write any other Android where phones have come out and their default watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► faces are you are more fake representations of what we traditionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► think of is fine watches right right and at least in pictures they look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► wow that does look like a real watch it's kind of interesting that looks nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► people say they look nice to me they don't look nice but and you know and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► think im still not seen and read where one person but I'm pretty sure if I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► it in person I would think it looks like a nice watch in the way that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► iPhone calculator used to look like a nice Brian calculator didn't look like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► nice bright calculator it was you know just a piece of glass had like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► buttons on it it might have been a call it was a cool I thought it was a cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► way to make calculator app for the iPhone but it never would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► interested me and fascinated me like somebody said hey by the way I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► this 1972 Braun calculator that was my dads and that I would think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► the uncanny valley where you're trying you're trying to be a thing to simulate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► a thing right so hard that it ends up being weird the pebbles like this to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► pebble faces that I use are not at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► attempting to look like real watches there's like the one with the words and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► there's the one with like a little anime his face on it but like I like a cartoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► character face but they are not like that they're actually like this looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► like a real watch face those are awful I can look at them because they hurt my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► eyes because they are shaping a real watch and in there fighting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► fighting against what the pebble is good at and writing in a direction where one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► of the things the public good at is unlike a lot of these since people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► actually gets reasonable battery life you know you can wear it for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► days at least I can get me six days which is way better than all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► ones and part of the reason they can do that is that have this really low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► resolution two hundred and sixty 560 e ink display yeah so it's never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► be able to look pretty in a way that I watched its pretty but then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► they just used like the words or something like that right and those look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► good but when they when they and yes it's not a very good display but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► still tried to a place to watch with hands and it looks terrible and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► that I think that's an interesting point of what if what Apple tries to do is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► trying to make it look like you'd mistake it for a Swiss watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► a new and this would be a very Apple thing to do with its a new thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► you put on your wrist and it might even tell you the time but it's not trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► be mistaken for a Rolex right it's just not what it's trying to do right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► imagine 2007 Steve Jobs's here's the iPhone takes it out of his pocket crowd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► is going nuts and it it would before he turns it on it looks like exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► same it's a black piece of glass and he turns it on and it turns to the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► dialer right that would have been because then it that that's using this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► thing to make it look like whatever we all thought of as a phone thing with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► know 1234567890 underneath a red Hang Up button a green call button and like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► star button underneath where you would hit the start button to then access you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► mention that the dialer is the home screen that's exactly right then it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► show you it'll slide up a thing that shows you apps but like the default is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► dialing right that's exactly what I was trying to say like that the home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4135">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► is a phone dialer because that's a phone and that to me is what all the smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► watches have done so far where the home screen is analog wrist watch with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► hour hand in hand and they're all you know and and the people who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► praising like the Moto 360 the people who think it looks good and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► some of the Samsung ones that just came out there doing it in a skewer morphic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► way did you know aping fine and a long wrist watches which is exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► opposite of everything Apple has done software wise in Iowa 7 starting a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► eminently when do you want to compete with those devices i mean that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► going back to your point of like is the is the wide open space of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► don't wear a watch or don't think about watches as a better place to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► than people who love watches which is an interesting idea but I like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► that you know you don't want to compete with a Rolex because you were not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4196">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► to win you you know you're not a Rolex your the resolution of your screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► the battery life is never gonna compete with that Rolex but you do have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► they're not that so don't let that be something be the thing you are be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► something else right that's exactly right and you can compete with the Rolex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► on what the thing looks like on your wrist at a distance sure you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► that sort of thing nice materials and all of that but it's not the same device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► and you know you're not just trying to create a computer that ends up being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► watch right in the same way that every iPhone ever made especially all the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► other than the 3G and 3G s but you know the original one and then back with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► starting with the four and going through today they look like nice devices in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► your hand even before you turn them on there just to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► aesthetically pleasing pieces of material and they can't only computer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► just think of when it comes to the face whatever it is whether it's a square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► whether it's a band-aid trip type thing or a circle I don't know I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► would do a circle because I think it's I think I think a circle is a way to screw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► I think just having a circular screen is perfect and you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► anchored in the world of watches them as the story Motorola tells of how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► came to a circle they stayed in like a day they admit to doing like a focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► group where they asked children where you can watch looks like they said a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► circle they said ok we'll make our thing a circle and it's like you're asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► whether it should be based on the thing you're trying to supplant right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► like imagine if Apple had decided to make start with the iPhone and ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► children what is a telephone look like I could push buttons they didn't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► weren't gonna say it looks like the the monolith from 2001 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► the old faster horse thing right which is that you know do you want to just is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► your idea of the next thing you know a better version of the old thing or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► something that's completely different and I think I feel like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► people again who have listened to this afterwards laugh and laugh but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► like that's what Apple ideally would do is throw all that away and say if we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► gonna do a wearable device what we're not going to do is make it pretend to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► the old playing but instead start from zero of like you know having something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► on your body has a lot of benefits it's easier to glance at your wrist and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► is one of the reasons I like the notifications in the Pebble it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► people always say well you got your phone in your pockets like you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► wrist is way more accessible than my pocket and women who often have to carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► their phone in a bag you know again their risk is way more accessible than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► the phone that's tucked away in the bag so that's a benefit in being on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► body and being able to do things like read your heart rate and and and since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► your movements all of that is an advantage to being on there so start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► with the advantages of why you'd want to be on somebody's wrist rather than start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► with the watch and yet never underestimate how much the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► you've just gotten used to is actually a huge pain in the ass yeah I'm sure when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► indoor plumbing came you know that there were people who were like oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► thing I'm gonna crap in right at my house no way you can even put water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► pipes all through the house and and dreams you realize how much it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► to make a house when you do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► exactly and then you know it's of course you don't want to go out and have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► little dirty boxing your backyard go to the bathroom you out houses anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► yeah very few outhouses anymore and you know that's one thing I was just talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► to somebody on Twitter just like a random reader who was like hey if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► if the watch has NFC and admit you know everybody's excited about this stuff if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4435">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► he was like I know it's a big if but just go with me if the watch has NFC and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► then it's gotta have touch I T to write in my answer is no I think it definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► wouldn't have today D because such a deal would be ugly because it's gotta be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► you know reasonably fingertips sized and there's nowhere on a watch to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► finger tip size thing that's just for you to put your finger right and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► already touching your skin and I know that's not your fingerprint underneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► there but I'm I guess my just random guess I don't know but I just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► there's got to be some other biometric thing that it could maybe do to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► an idea because I don't think it would have that and then there are other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► people who like trip down and they're like it doesn't need a touchy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► you'll have your iPhone with you and as such I D so then you can just take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► iPhone and use that for the touchy part well then what's the point of having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► thing on your wrist right there's no point don't underestimate how much of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► pain in the ass it may be that we have to take her phone out all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► right that's tied to me the key to this you know having the thing on your wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► like all of a sudden maybe we start using the iPhone unless we I mean if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► at the drugstore with your bottle of soda and milk jugs you ran out of milk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► and just like waving your wrist like poop and walk out or N eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► presumably you know with with RFID just walking out right and you get charged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► for the milk and that's it then you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► yeah that is that is easier than pulling out your pocket it's marginally easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► but over time even marginally easier is easier and it could be it could be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► know Marco Arment linked to site of one of these like mock-up sites and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► it was the only round watch thing that I've seen that I thought I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4554">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► liked and I'm not saying that Apple would do it but the one thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► intrigued me about this site is that it was suggesting using the watch metaphor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► as user interaction and what I liked about it was the idea that they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► said it may not even be a touch screen that you if you if you're gonna have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► round of ice you could use the ring connelly the click wheel you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► ring for navigation perhaps you push down or tap and you can spin around in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► the news you might even have like some wheels on the side I i doubt that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► would do it but I thought that was kind of an interesting idea that I hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► really thought of before which is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► could've device like this not be driven by swipes and taps on a touch screen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► some other you know in this case it was spinning essentially turning a dial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► turning like like certainly the old iPod I I thought it was really it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► something I thought I thought it was really interesting I kinda feel I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► like like you do that they're much more likely to just gonna walk away from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► traditional watch interface and not try to make a watch that looks like a watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► but is actually not but instead make a new thing but I thought it was just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► idea of like the other part of Apple's history which is this kind of circular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► navigation thing that I guess if Tony Fadell we're still at Apple maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► don't know I but I wouldn't be surprised though like it seems there's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► idea in there and it may not be going back to circle but I think the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► idea is just because we've gotten used to this doesn't mean the next thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► still going to be this right so we got used to the command line with our Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► Tues and then the Mac came out and there was no command not yeah there were no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► way to issue commands mind boggles the keeper right it truly was and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► that the people who were you born post mcintosh cannot do you just can't fathom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► it a computer was a thing that when you turned on you got a blinking prompt type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► computer things and they could be dangerous for the Mac I thought how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► you rate programs on this thing somebody tried to explain to me I was like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► don't understand how that can be just doesn't make any sense how there could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► be programs on this one that my thought when I first saw the magnets how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► do something how do you do the things you need to do that this I thought I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► infatuated with the graphical user interface but you know to me it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► a game it was like the interface was a game that lets you play computer as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► will when you need to do something else how do you do it if you don't have it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► this I want to close this and get back to the black screen has a problem you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► know and i was thinkin like home I gotta wonder how are we going to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► those spaces on the filenames when you're on the command line I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► I've ever seen a system to head back slashes at that point or if I did I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► never learned it and then there was none its new thing and with this is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4733">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► kinda how I feel about the iPod Nano by the way right now which is that it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► weird product that is does feel like it's a ping ya bad the idea yeah because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► it's not I'll you can swipe and tap into when you tap things happen that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► it's not right it's a really great example so great example to me is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► original iPod and we had a handheld devices and they had like navigation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► it was up and down left and right there was joy $6 down up down and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► music players to date used that and the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► the biggest problem was it had gotten to the point where it was easy to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► thousands on and going thousand times is just no good can't do it and holding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► button down its just don't have enough control so that we feel it was genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► because I had speed it was you know it was completely under control you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► liggett and all of a sudden you had this new thing that we've never used before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► but it was really useful and you can use it to navigate literally thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► songs you know and then you know flash forward ten years or actually wasn't ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► years six years do you believe that I was only six years after the iPod six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► years and as you know we all went in thinking that the iPhone was going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► that gag slide a click wheel with a phone on top right now so I I do kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► think that I think the notions that like you screw shrink the size small enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► and your finger covers the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► it's it's a problem even on an iPad it's always a problem that your finger covers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► what it is you're touching when you touch but he shrink the screen small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► enough you can't compensate for it right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► like on the way that the perfect example the way on the standard iPhone keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► you love how I now have to refer to it as that the standard keyboard when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4853">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► type aqui it shows you what you typed above your finger it flashes and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► enough ordinance for the fact that you can't see which one you're touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► because it's underneath your your your finger on something the size of a watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► there's no way to afford that because your covers over half of it exactly so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► I would not be surprised at all even if it has a very nice color display that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► is not a touch screen because I don't know that touch is right at all for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► something that size especially if it's small and especially if there's a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► know a version that that women would wanna wear or people with smaller wrists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► with 10 we're at that point you either get these devices that are huge are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► get something that smaller and there's no there's no touch target left at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► of these touch in the sense of tapping objects on the screen I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► possible that you could do something with touch that is you know swiping up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► and down on the side or something like that as a as a movement but it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► same as like I am going I see a thing and I'm going to touch it with my finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► and then it'll do something below a certain size you just can't do it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► Nano is sort of there where it's almost pointless to navigate because you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► really only touch on one maybe there's a couple things but it's like but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► think about the previous generation nano the one that was turned into a watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► with the Tik Tok oh yeah and stuff like that and which I've mentioned before on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► the show that if you're smart watch actual SmartWatch doesn't look better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► then it then our previous generation iPod Nano which wasn't designed to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► watch on the tick tock which was a Kickstarter project then you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► serious problem because that wasn't meant to be a watch and some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► smart watches don't look as good as my three-year-old now no one picked up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► I do that on that size touch screen it's a real problem I know I never know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► yeah they got like two buttons you were four buttons you can tap but it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► me and the Swype areas very small and it's just it's not it's a nice try at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► unifying a product line if your Apple and saying look people used to do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► it is not if you were designing that in a in a vacuum you would not designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► that way because it doesn't it doesn't fit right into I i wonder about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► whether it's whether it's something like what market showed me that is this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► circular and and the ring is like the click wheel or it's something that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► rectangular and you're not expecting to touch on the screen but but there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► other interaction I don't know it's an interesting problem it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► interesting to see whether Apple leans on the side of a new interaction or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► whether they try to make it feel as i phone like as possible I just can't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► coming back to the idea that what's happened is everybody in the industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► has gotten their ability to make these iPhones can call my phone like devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► right eye and everything post-pc that we've had Android Windows Phone whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► you wanna call the OS and there's much in all copies I'm just saying no they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► all brewed with this idea of a touch screen and a unix-like operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► running on a real computer under the hood and a real operating system on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► or you can put apps and stuff like that and we've gotten to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► everybody can make one now that is small enough to be called a watch and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► not a small watch in fact all of these things are kind of huge by the standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► watches but we can make them like dick Tracy's watch which is a remarkable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► achievement and I think that all of the enthusiasm you do see on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► sites that are reviewing them and giving them positive reviews even though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► seemingly have glaring problems in terms of just is it actually useful and is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► actually a good product I think it's just general excitement of holy crap you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► can have a computer at the technological achievement really rights right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► just you know you and I are not identically aged very close in age you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► go back to the nineties and tell Jason's now and John Gruber that you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► have a UNIX computer running on your wrist in the year 2014 and I'm gonna lie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► I'm thinking holy shit we're having jet cars and jetpacks to write i mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► crazy cause a UNIX computer in 1993 was like a room at the mansion in like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► of those risks things that like Space Coast had thats like this I played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► doubles the size of your wrist it's like that's what I would think it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► huge and why would you put that on your wrist thinking you know how how could it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► be the main frames these are like more computer then then a computer and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► gonna have that money in your pocket or on your wrist that's crazy talk and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► just because you can build it it's cool that just because you can't doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► that that's actually good form factor for that and its exact same well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► thinking the Nano and tick tock on the lunatic I mean showed that right with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► like you could do it it's not that good but you could do it right and its exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► same thing of why didn't the original iPhone run the Mac OS where you drag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► little windows around and have a File menu menu bar at the top it would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► worked at some level conceptually but it it definitely would have been a bad idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► i mean we would have bottomed would review them and it might have been some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► cool things you do it and I'm sure they would have you know scaled the things up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► it wouldn't have been like you're trying to touch a tiny little twenty pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► but it you know it just wasn't the right interaction model can't help but think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► that that's where the wearables are but they're everybody else is is stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► thinking that they should make a stunning modern cell phone on your wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► and nobody would want need or you don't want to you dont wanna phone that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5215">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► I mean yeah I think I think no no sane person would want a phone that small and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► I think that's actually a strong argument I wrote a piece about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► awhile go to the idea that I don't want I don't want something on my wrist to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► a phone right like I don't think it's the right place for a phone I i wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► if you could say you don't need to carry my phone around anymore I'm gonna scrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► the things your wrist and it's your iPhone I don't think I would want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► because it's so it would have to be so small that the way you interacted with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► it would be difficult and you know this is why bigger phones are more popular in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► the rumors that Apple is going to have a larger phone so what goes on your wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► you know is it's that real estate is great but it's different and and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► want to be the same interaction because it's not the same it's not only in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► different place in my body it sits strapped to my wrist gotta hold my arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► in a certain way to get to it now which also means it's one handed operation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► because I can't bend my other hand and its tiny so it's not you know the rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5273">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► don't apply even though it's convenient to say hey if all the same rules as your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► phone it's not the same place the rules should not apply its a different device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► yeah let's come back to that idea of a big ass iPhone but first I want to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► you about a third sponsors are good friends at Harbor harvard is the domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► name registrar that doesn't suck and these guys I i repeated every time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► it's such a Skype me industry and it's it's it's like going into the bad part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► of town usually when you go to a domain name registrar however has been around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► forever they have always just been an honest company they may not be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► cheapest juncture at you can go somewhere else and register domain name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► that's not what they're trying to be there trying to be the best they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► in business for a long time and have so many great features the best one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► best thing that they have i my opinion is their customer service and what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► call Valley transfers they make it easy to manage all your domains in one place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► and so let's say you've been registering domain names like a dummy since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► mid-nineties every time you have it goofy idea for a domain name I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► looking at anybody in particular that sounds familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► yeah it sounds familiar to a lot of you who are listening right and you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► them registered all over the place and every time they come up for renewal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► you get the email I got it had that thing since 1990 but it's still such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► funny doe may have to keep it right it's only 15 bucks or whatever for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► years but they're all over the place and you got a registered at you know three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► different places and some of them you don't even like the bad businesses and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► you go to the website that's terrible what you can do as you go to have her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► and you sign up at her and you just give them your information for the places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► where you have your domain names registered and they'll take care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► where you have your domain names registered and they'll take care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5396">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► everything in terms of moving them over and even if you haven't looked up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► there are new and you have it pointed to it silly you know single-purpose website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► where you're making a joke for when your friends or something like that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► just moving the domain name into your name and putting it however that take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► care of everything with updating DNS and getting it all pointed the right way so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► that everything is just seamless and then when the DNS updates all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► sudden your domains are registered at however in all of your sites just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► working and these guys did they know that I every time I have to do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► related to DNS I panic because it's so easy to screw up because I don't deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► with it on a regular basis where is that all it does is deal with domain names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► amazing amazing stuff and it is the best thing you do if you could find somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► find one of your friends who has it demands that however they will tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► I will say you're not if you don't move over because it's it's that good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► i-15 demands that however now I might have a problem how many of them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► well she can't rely I'm a lot of redirecting where you know you buy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► get the taco and I can get this alternate spelling and I could have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► already directed all of that I and III couple that like you said are the jokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► where it's like that how can I not we did this in the 200th episode in Kabul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► like I said that he said we hit him in the buffer zone and we just started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► laughing and we that we went with that joke for a long time and I realized I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► could register the butter . zone right did see that's what you can do now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► these wacky new top-level domains is instead of going the butter zone dot com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► now the entire domain is part of the joke and there's no superfluous not joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► part of the domain with 200% you're stupid and they've got all this and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► and they're totally on board that I should mention that you know all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► top-level domains you can do that you know I think that there's a Marco . [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5516">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► coffee that everybody should check out probably registered through however all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► use this code here's the code for the month its chowder dhow ter that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► there in jokes or during fireball readers and go to have a dot com and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► find out more my thanks to over do I smoked so much smoke there's fire thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► with two iPhones four point seven and 5.5 inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► there's still a lot of people out there who are skeptical of it I don't know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► a fact anything nobody tells me anything I'm telling you that's gotta be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► because somebody would have leaked don't don't expect a 5.5 inch iPhone by now if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► there wasn't one coming I agree there's too much it's like what we said about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► couple of these topics earlier that Apple Apple doesn't leak all this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► and they don't like that leaks but one thing Apple does do and and you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5576">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► know this line of this and certainly like the times in the journal know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► is Apple does leak to manage expectations because they are in risk of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► risk of being harmed if people go into an event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► expecting things that are totally not gonna happen because then they'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► disappointed and so sometimes you will see these stories where it'll be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► look it's they're not gonna do this or what we saw was looking at probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► going to be out until next year right just like don't get don't get your hopes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► up that it's going to ship next week probably not gonna be out until next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► year and I feel like since they haven't said that like you said they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► said in another no bigger iPhone it's not going to happen that it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► gonna happen because they probably the buzz is so large probably somebody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► have batted down it was totally true especially at this point days before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► like and that's why I think there's a bunch you know that does seem to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► spurt of stuff coming out like Brian X janet is maybe the thing you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5635">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► New York Times yesterday where among other things he said that the new bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► iPhones have a one-handed mode racism thing I made fun of on the Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► Galaxy Note a year ago which was you know how in the world do you use these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► giant phones with when you're only holding in one hand and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► Samsung Galaxy Note had a thing I don't forget how you engaged it but then all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► of a sudden it just put like the equivalent of like a regular four-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► phone in the lower right corner of the phone and I i presume you can also put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► in the lower left if you're left-handed but then it just you know and then all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► the other there's like a big L shaped letterboxing around it I have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► Jen does not describe the one-handed mode of the new iPhone but I would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► be surprised at all if that's true because 5.5 inch phones are ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► as far as we know you know I've used at the 5.5 enter something very close to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► 5.5 inch Nokia when I was built I've said this before it is a fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► device it is free now it seems very intriguing I think an Apple iPhone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► was that size will sell huge I don't think the majority of people want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► tho I think the people who do are gonna love it but one thing is there's just no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► if ands or buts about it you know like when when the iPhone grew from 3.5 to 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► inches which is minimal change in size compared to what we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► with 5.5 inches there was all sorts of stuff in the event talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► features in the OS that help you so that you know yes now it's harder to navigate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► but we have this ad gesture where you can swipe back from the left to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► so you don't have to hit that back button all the way up in the top corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► like there's no way to to mitigate this with you in a little software tricks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► like that if you have a 5.5 inch display on your phone even if all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► surrounding area was minimized to the most possible degree it's still too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► to use in one hand you have to you hold in one hand and using the other there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► no way around it for many people that's not that's why I that I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► a deal breaker obviously if Apple shipping it they don't either it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► mean they shouldn't build the device it just means in the world of tradeoffs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► people are willing to have XY and Z bigger video games that are bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► better battery life which I want to come back to us again and are willing to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► up I'm able to use the phone in one hand or if channels right and there's a mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► they're willing to invoke what i think is good even if Apple does it it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► be silly sure it's going to be like what direction he tilted and it's like oh now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► it's certainly this happen smaller and now you can now you can reach the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► although I don't know I don't I don't think about it from an iPad perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► i dont i dont worry about not being able to use my dad one hand yeah but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► don't walk around the city with it I know but this is a big device i mean i i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► get i get that you there's more needs were then there is an iPad iPhone iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► mini and I sometimes I think there is not you know this is an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► intersection between the very large iPhone and a very small iPad where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► yeah let me put it this way if Brian Chen handwritten that I wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► brought up a one-handed mode with you on this show because it's such a silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► thing to me that it's such a silly notion to me that it wouldn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► occurred to me but he wrote it he says he doesn't say seen it but he says you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► know sources familiar with the matter say that it's going to have and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► and so given that and I'm not saying that means it's true I'm just saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5876">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► know they are times and Brian X chana mean I have some issues with private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► exchange but his is his reporting when he says a source says acts is excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► you know it's it's typical times quality so I guess it's not a done deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► sure there's some kind of wiggle room out where it could be something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► and it was mistaken as a one-handed mode but where they tried and it didn't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► didn't make it into the final version but I would not be surprised at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► having played with one of these devices I wouldn't be surprised at all if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► did it you know if there's some kind of thing maybe it's just in the control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► center and you flick up from the bottom and there's a new button you can hit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► it shrinks the screen to the lower right corner I don't think it'd be silly but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► would be surprised if they did it because these phones are ridiculously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► big compared to what we're used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► so if you've built your usage you know here's how I typically use my phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► have often using it while holding it in the same device you're using it with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► not be able to do that with the new dream I think that's that's where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► comes into into being an issue because for me I think about large device and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► think this is basically the smallest iPad we can put in your pocket right not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► the biggest iPhone and that's not true although I saw on Twitter today that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► Steve Smith who likes to poke around in Xcode and find out things seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► suggest that if you're if you're using a screen size like that and you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► landscape get actually uses iPad resources which is really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► like it's just you might be able to use an iPad you and of course then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► then you're almost certainly not doing it one-handed if you if you turn it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► sideways but I don't know I it's a funny it's a funny intersection has like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► iPad Mini and I wonder sometimes about could I get away with one device if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► was bigger than my iPhone but smaller than my mini would be good enough that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► need to or what it and just bad on both counts I don't know that that comeback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► WWDC session that I've been recommending people wanting it section 216 which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► building adaptive land which is Apple's terminology for flexible ads are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► responsible in their terminology they don't call them phone wet or tablet with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► they call it like regular with compact with regular height compact tight and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► like and iPad is a great color with regular height show the full energies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► phone is regular height so you can put like a big scrolling last but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► called a compact with a regular iPhone like an iPhone today even when you turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► in landscape is still a compact with like it's not a specific number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► pixels or points it just says like I compact with even hold held horizontally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► just means hey mail if you're showing a list just show one listed the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► don't show the list side-by-side with the content whereas what he's saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► that is very interesting to me would be that just the 5.5 inch iPhone if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► hold it horizontally when you're in mail you'll suddenly see a list of messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► taking like the first third and when you select one you'll see the message on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► settings will have a list on the left side and then the pain on the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► instead of it being something you enter into right and if you think about that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► i believe that and not just because he's he's a great Twitter account he's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► very astute hacker in the best sense of hacker in terms of its lists losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► those things out of the bay tax codes and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► but I believe it because I think that's the message Apple has been preaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6116">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► especially this year to be the BBC is to stop thinking about iPhone apps on iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► and so don't think of the 5.5 inch iPhone as just a big iPhone or perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► and there's so many people into it you know Twitter and email and think hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► maybe it's not an iPhone or maybe it's a iPod nano and it'll run iPad apps will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► know it's too small to run iPad apps it you know it's just if you really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► you know take an iPad app and just shrink it to 5.5 inches and printed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► a piece of paper you'll see immediately that everything is too small to touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► but it totally makes sense to me that if you held it sideways that you could sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► of given an iPad ish layout if not but not by shrinking the iPad interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► exactly you know I mean it's it's just use one-third of the screen for the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► the other two thirds of the screen for the content and figure it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► dynamically based on how many points are a big thing should be responsive HTML [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► break point where you're basically saying look we say that this device is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► big enough that it can handle tooth two things at once and then the apps go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► alright yeah I'll put that up there are already thinking about sort of life when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► iOS developers already are thinking of this when is it too small when is it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► big I've got this one designed for iPads and one for iPhones and it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► unreasonable to think but it's an interesting idea cuz then you get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► this phone that sort of like a phone when it's being held in one direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► and sort of like an iPad when cells in another direction and I i do I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► about them on the market for this device because when I talk to people who've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► written about or or or use tablets this is what comes up a lot of the time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► people like it because they don't really care that its huge they don't really use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► it as a phone you know that word again you know hello how's it going how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► Yankees doing what could you do and admittedly this is get out of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► you looked ridiculous talking but if you always talk on your phone using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► you know like I i never hold my phone to my ear anyway I've always got had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► something and so it doesn't matter and Bluetooth thing doesn't matter and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► you are connected to the internet thing and it's bigger so this so the screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► bigger and you can see and don't just don't even underestimate the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► you know if you're on the phone for two minutes who cares if you know get used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► to it because it's like I said I was with hockenberry last week I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► you know people do I've gotten over making front of the people do look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► ridiculous using an iPad as a camera but guess what there's like two million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► using an iPad somewhere in the world as a camera and get over it thats is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► they do you know there there it's the tool that's at hand and it works for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► them it fits into their lives it's hard to talk about any of this stuff because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► it was huge that this would be a nicely dainty phone for him he's finally get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6295">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► doughnut what we think is gonna be so he's gonna be like oh my god this is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► current phone you like just kind of hold between two fingers like the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► phone for him is like what we were talking about using the the iPod Nano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► that's right and it's and you get your big media fingers on this thing so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► he'll be you know I was certainly a skeptic you know at first 100 fans got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► super big because it didn't I didn't see the appeal but you know I turned around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► and they even when I wrote my iPhone 5 review two years ago I said look the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► picture phones are here to stay cuz I was skeptical even when I had it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► reviewed it of the change from 3.5 to four but clearly you know there's desire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► for it I'm still a little interested in why they went to two bigger sizes rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► than keeping the forum size and having one bigger size i think i think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► question about what if this is true what happens next year because I do wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► at some point they abandon the smaller size 25 size or do they keep that size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► around and and upgrade that size with better hardware on the inside and sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► think we're gonna end up with three sizes though keep around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► version of the five as their third product that's the question is do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► that a viable size going forward because that would be kinda nice if they said no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► we're gonna keep that size around it's never going to be our biggest newest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► hottest thing but we'll we'll keep it around with the previous year specs or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► whatever put into it and we've got three sizes now not too and the old model but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► three iPhones sizes Raven others doesn't seem to be one new one that size coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► need to do that i mean by this and keep it around and it's perfectly good or put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► a colorful shell on it and it's the five sec or whatever I mean they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► totally do that if they wanted to give you five see right but I do think I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6415">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► predicting that the message on stage Tuesday is going to be four point seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► is better than four point out for the size that you're used to now and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► gonna think it big at first but trust us you'll get used to it and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► right size in you know we've we've done it now because we can build bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► screens and we have bigger batteries and that whether it's true or not we won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► know until we you know get to use them but their goodness I think they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► to pit the four point seven as you know yes it's bigger butt bigger only in good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► ways right and then they're gonna say the 5.5 is an altogether different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► experience for people and they'll tell a story about who it's for a credit card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► companies like Samsung and I can't believe I'm saying that but but follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► me here you know Apple Apple is a company that pics that spot and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► they looked at the bell curve and this is the right size phone this is like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► we could only make one this is the one because this is gonna get best and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► Samsung did because this is what Samsung does is they made a phone like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► size possible just to see what would happen and one of the things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► discovered it's like a scientist like looking for a planet like an exoplanet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► right where it where you're looking at data and you're trying to find some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► signal and the noise I feel like what what Samsung did was look at that church [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► and say well ok people like phones there's bumper and where the iPhone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► and is above above it people do like the bigger screens and then there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► weird thing that happened over here with the note which is there's another market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► for that and it's not as big a market as that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► at smaller fun it's not it's a weird market it's more of an issue but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► it's a big news it's bigger than we thought and you know that is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► that maybe until somebody tried it nobody would know and into Samsung's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► credit with the note they tried it and they found it out and and its let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► everybody else to realize you know what its weird and not what we thought but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► some people just want to have the huge phone and and and and so Apple going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6535">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► into that market doesn't necessarily mean it's apples failure because I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► think Apple strategy all along was like look we're gonna pick size and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► later we'll deal with spreading out the product line but it is at least in part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► because Samsung went there and uncovered this market that was unexpected and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► know Apple because Apple's already got the iPad the iPad Mini Apple's not a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► position to to try that now that they are spreading it out they would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► make that they're only fun but but adding an end it's just it's none of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► looked at that I mean we all laughed at the note why would you do this and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► turns out some it works for some people so here we are but that's a credit to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► Samsung for you know doing the old t-shirt cannon just covering the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► landscape and figuring they certainly they certainly had the first big ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► that were hits but I remembered noting I don't know three years ago when when a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► lot of Android phones started going past the five-inch mark right right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6596">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► in between four and five was bigger than the iPhone but I I played with those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► devices and yet you notice it was bigger but it didn't seem huge and then five to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► me is the marker word once you're past five that's a really big device and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:18 ◼ ► bunch of Android phones went over there and they didn't think that I was is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6618">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► this they didn't have four inch models to they only had the big one and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:28 ◼ ► believe them my theory then and I still think it was true at the time was after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6628">TS</a>]
01:50:33 ◼ ► a lot of them they did it because it was the only way they can get a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6633">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► battery life that they made the screen and the screen went super high res [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► either you know they made a big and they weren't super high res the men were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► necessarily bad but it just didn't seem to be a lot I just the fact that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► didn't have iphone sized ones even though the iPhone was by far and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► is the most popular size smartphone or phone if I'm gonna follow my own advice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6656">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► it just seemed to me that they had to go big and the reason I can think that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► had to go big is that they needed the battery but then I think a side effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► of that as Android evolved to software wise you know take advantage of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► thing to the first ones they did blue the Android interface it was just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► know an interface that was kind of design for the original size Android's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► which were about the iPhone size and he just blew it up but I think that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► be too were Samsung does I can't believe I'm saying it does deserve the credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► where I think that the reason like the note was popular was that the note had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► software that was meant to be on a 5.5 inscribed have that have their own their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:43 ◼ ► crazy Stylus Tough right cuz they suck it right and it hit it hit a segment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6703">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► the market that wanted it and it was a different segments you know and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► totally reasonable so I do think factor one is yes there are some people cite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► enough of them that it's a market worth going after really and truly want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► bigger phone for whatever the reason doesn't matter whether it's free games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► whether it's because they watch a lot of TV video YouTube on the phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► undeniably for watching YouTube or baseball games in our case on a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► the bigger screen better no doubt about it big businesses also have come to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► and said you know we want to buy units for all of our people who are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► field and we wanted to be big and full-featured cause we're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► get them a tableau want to hang out there without a tablet without a laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► that can have one and we wanted to be bigger and Apple listens to those guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► and says oh wow there's a sale opportunity there too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:39 ◼ ► it almost doesn't matter why you can almost abstract and say look there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6759">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► bunch of people who want a bigger screen for these reasons and so they get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► bigger screen and secondarily and I think this is huge I would not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► surprised if this is a big part of the message on Tuesday is that making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► phone that big yes there's all sorts of other tradeoffs with one-handed use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6777">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► tutor tutor but all of a sudden you've got this enormous room to put a battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:06 ◼ ► right oh yeah so there's there's like a battery team at Apple right and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6786">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► that these guys and they've even been featured in the videos you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► when they've talked about the reasons why they've stopped making replaceable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► batteries and MacBooks and stuff like that in about taking every single bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► space that they can get you no more battery in there and smarter batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► there is a team that Apple that works on you know i phone batteries and when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► I think when they were told ok here's how big we're going to make this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:35 ◼ ► fun they were like oh my god that's so beautiful right well as the greatest day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6815">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► of my life you like those guys are doing an algebra problem and have been from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:43 ◼ ► the beginning that they've been solving for what Apple considers sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6823">TS</a>]
01:53:47 ◼ ► Optima battery life and that that if you've noticed over the years with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6827">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► iPhone battery life doesn't change very much and obviously the capacity changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► a lot and the energy consumption of the device changes a lot but in the end what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6835">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► they quote as battery life doesn't change very much and so it's very clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► to me that they're they're solving for that data really thats with the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:07 ◼ ► we want to hit that's acceptable battery life and people who really use and abuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6847">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► their phones say it's not enough and I gotta have a backup battery or gonna put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► it in the case but Apple's like decided this is this is what we can fit as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:20 ◼ ► balance that works for us with these new phones being larger and especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► very large one that's one of my questions is is this do those battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:29 ◼ ► guys say finally we can do we can we can also address the other issue which is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6869">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► you want your iPhone to last for two days or a day and a half or whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:40 ◼ ► is twice what it can now this model will be able to do that that's what I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6880">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► thats I don't know if it's going to be twice but I do think it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► something like this bigger fun maybe they won't tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:51 ◼ ► this particular gonna be another hour battery right presumably right now I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6891">TS</a>]
01:54:57 ◼ ► I think so I think the four point seven and 10 come out with iPhone as we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6897">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► it like battery again right and the five will use the same amount of energy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► everything else because I think it's going to have the same CPUs in-camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► same everything else except this bigger screen which I also expect to be even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:20 ◼ ► higher resolution and so I and I think they can do that and have it only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6920">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► consume maybe like 20 percent more power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6924">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► maybe thirty percent more power than the 4.7 inch ones screen but they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6929">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► have way more than 20 or 30 percent more room for bad record the way more volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:39 ◼ ► when you do the math of volume of one of these devices and you had that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6939">TS</a>]
01:55:42 ◼ ► scream mean it doesn't seem like a lot but when the other dimensions are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6942">TS</a>]
01:55:46 ◼ ► small you add that extra screen and the volume is just vastly larger right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6946">TS</a>]
01:55:51 ◼ ► so when people have said you know like in disputing my projections on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6951">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► displays of the two phones with the one goes three Axioo asked to go three acts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6956">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► and I think one of the big reasons that it can cause you can find a three X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► resolution for the four that would solve all the other problems I brought up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► about the tap target sizes and scaling factors in showing more content you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► definitely do it the problem is that one would take 20 percent more power and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:19 ◼ ► then I have more room for the battery and have no more Rosario percent more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6979">TS</a>]
01:56:23 ◼ ► room for the battery and I think that maybe they'll get there eventually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6983">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► know just through the way that everything gets more efficient overtime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► but I feel like right out of the gate side by side one of the main features of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► the bigger the 5.5 inch iPhone is going to be amazing battery life at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:42 ◼ ► amazing by the standards of iPhones as we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7002">TS</a>]
01:56:45 ◼ ► and so I think that actually is going to create a second class of people who want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7005">TS</a>]
01:56:50 ◼ ► the 5.5 inch ivory first class first class who said before people who want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7010">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► bigger screen even if they have the same battery life even type I said they both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7014">TS</a>]
01:57:00 ◼ ► well a whole bunch of people want to 5.5 but I think the second class is if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7020">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► gets 18 hours of battery life said it ten yep there will be people who get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:11 ◼ ► and they'll say to him this thing is behaving like this this is big but wow I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7031">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► need this battery life because they live on their own and they'll be willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:19 ◼ ► put up with it and that might be why they're putting in like a one-handed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7039">TS</a>]
01:57:24 ◼ ► mode right now because there's I think there's to meet you know sucking all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7044">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► these last minute rumors in that to me makes sense that maybe there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► one-handed mode only on the 5.5 inch I don't think the 4.7 inch phone will need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7055">TS</a>]
01:57:40 ◼ ► it I think they're gonna make it maybe even if this is all true though even say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7060">TS</a>]
01:57:44 ◼ ► the 4.7 inch phone doesn't need it we know it bigger we know it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7064">TS</a>]
01:57:48 ◼ ► harder to use of one hand but you can definitely still do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7068">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► 5.5 inch one you can't and if that's what you want to do here's how you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:54 ◼ ► but I think the battery life is going to draw people in who otherwise would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7074">TS</a>]
01:57:59 ◼ ► bought the 5.5 inch yeah I think I think you're right I think that's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7079">TS</a>]
01:58:02 ◼ ► part of the story is like you want more screen bigger battery life all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7082">TS</a>]
01:58:07 ◼ ► things we have a model for you now here it is and let me also speak to those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7087">TS</a>]
01:58:11 ◼ ► that that business scenario if you know I've got somebody out on the road I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7091">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► wanna sent them send them there with one device and 17 hour battery on top of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:21 ◼ ► so this is it take this out on the field you whatever you are cable repairman or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7101">TS</a>]
01:58:26 ◼ ► whoever oil industry guy or whatever those those those enterprises exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7106">TS</a>]
01:58:32 ◼ ► that's another market for a great cause otherwise if if all they're selling as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7112">TS</a>]
01:58:35 ◼ ► well you know bigger screen whatever it's less compelling but you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7115">TS</a>]
01:58:39 ◼ ► are the battery is one of the very easy bits of math to do and say well you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7119">TS</a>]
01:58:45 ◼ ► gonna have more room for battery and the components are not gonna be a larger so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7125">TS</a>]
01:58:49 ◼ ► of course there's going to be more battery yeah I think that that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7129">TS</a>]
01:58:54 ◼ ► angle is a huge part of the the five-point whatever inch phone crazy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7134">TS</a>]
01:58:59 ◼ ► know that it's true people who don't want to have a tablet thing I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7139">TS</a>]
01:59:03 ◼ ► want to take a notebook MacBook and iPhone with them they you know maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7143">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► know maybe it's not the only computing device in their life but maybe it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:13 ◼ ► desktop computer somewhere sitting on a desk and a 5.5 inch and that's it and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7153">TS</a>]
01:59:23 ◼ ► you know where they can run Photoshop you know tax code or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7163">TS</a>]
01:59:27 ◼ ► that really needs still needs like a real Mac everything else one device I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7167">TS</a>]
01:59:34 ◼ ► think that's exactly what this device is supposed to be and it's great if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7174">TS</a>]
01:59:37 ◼ ► somebody like like us he's got an iPhone and iPad and laptop but I do talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7177">TS</a>]
01:59:43 ◼ ► people who who say I'm not gonna have a tablet and phone especially since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7183">TS</a>]
01:59:48 ◼ ► tablet isn't isn't subsidized so they've got an iPad but it's an iPad 2 and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7188">TS</a>]
01:59:54 ◼ ► don't know when they're going to replace it and all but they get a new phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7194">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► every other year right so for them this is a better deal potentially be if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7196">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► can fulfill what they would use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:05 ◼ ► a tablet for enough for them to get by without needing a template and it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7205">TS</a>]
02:00:13 ◼ ► yeah and I think you know in terms of any kind of skepticism because I but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7213">TS</a>]
02:00:18 ◼ ► this what you guys are trying to tell me that Apple's gonna make it easier for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7218">TS</a>]
02:00:23 ◼ ► someone to not buy both and iPhone and iPad that doesn't make any sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7223">TS</a>]
02:00:27 ◼ ► course they wanted you know their capitals company company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7227">TS</a>]
02:00:31 ◼ ► I think it just gets back to that whole lack of fear of cannibalization an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7231">TS</a>]
02:00:36 ◼ ► where as long as you're talking about not buying a second Apple products but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7236">TS</a>]
02:00:41 ◼ ► you're still buying Apple products with your double thumbs-up from Tim Cook to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7241">TS</a>]
02:00:46 ◼ ► you as opposed to somebody who's buying the Samsung Galaxy whatever that's 5.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7246">TS</a>]
02:00:53 ◼ ► inches because that's when it's problem when it's not an apple also think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7253">TS</a>]
02:00:57 ◼ ► there's the confidence in knowing that this this is a newish market this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7257">TS</a>]
02:01:02 ◼ ► this is not the mainstream that they're going to sell more of the smaller phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7262">TS</a>]
02:01:06 ◼ ► and they're going to sell more iPads than they're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7266">TS</a>]
02:01:09 ◼ ► the most common scenario is not gonna be everybody stops buying iPads and small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7269">TS</a>]
02:01:14 ◼ ► iPhones and bison giant iPhone they know they know that's not going to happen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7274">TS</a>]
02:01:18 ◼ ► so this audience is not being served by them right now I served well by them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7278">TS</a>]
02:01:22 ◼ ► right and i think that they have confidence knowing you know from decades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7282">TS</a>]
02:01:27 ◼ ► you know multiple decades of the Mac that a wide range of form factors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7287">TS</a>]
02:01:33 ◼ ► price ranges is just fine and doesn't necessarily cannibalize anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7293">TS</a>]
02:01:38 ◼ ► know that the fact that there is an $899 MacBook Air which is an excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7298">TS</a>]
02:01:43 ◼ ► computer doesn't mean that the 27 inch iMac is going away and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7303">TS</a>]
02:01:49 ◼ ► something that brings up to as I I don't know what they're going to name these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7309">TS</a>]
02:01:52 ◼ ► things but I so I've started to think of the iPhone and think of it a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7312">TS</a>]
02:01:58 ◼ ► like the the Mac which is I'm not entirely sure that they won't just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7318">TS</a>]
02:02:02 ◼ ► these are the iPhone six or whatever and then there's a big one in a small 100% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7322">TS</a>]
02:02:07 ◼ ► convinced that's true but I've had people tell me will of course they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7327">TS</a>]
02:02:11 ◼ ► gonna have different names and I think we're MacBook Air comes in two sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7331">TS</a>]
02:02:14 ◼ ► MacBook Pro comes in two sizes iMac two sizes the iPhone could come in two sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7334">TS</a>]
02:02:20 ◼ ► without them calling one of them iPhone mini or iPhone huge and it would be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7340">TS</a>]
02:02:26 ◼ ► it's the new iPhone and you can get the big one of the small I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7346">TS</a>]
02:02:30 ◼ ► whether they'll do that or not they could yeah I think that it's funny to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7350">TS</a>]
02:02:36 ◼ ► names I am so bad I guess I should go on the record and make a prediction but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7356">TS</a>]
02:02:41 ◼ ► I had to my prediction would be that the four point seven inch one would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7361">TS</a>]
02:02:44 ◼ ► called the iPhone air or iPhone 6 air but that to me is already amount so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7364">TS</a>]
02:02:51 ◼ ► say drop the numbers and say iPhone air and the big one is the iPhone pro and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7371">TS</a>]
02:02:59 ◼ ► don't like it I don't like a couple reasons though because I don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7379">TS</a>]
02:03:04 ◼ ► as I do think they're going to have the same performance performance and does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7384">TS</a>]
02:03:09 ◼ ► that make sense to have a pro pro somehow feels like about to be faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7389">TS</a>]
02:03:13 ◼ ► but I don't know but I just feel pro because they've used it before and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7393">TS</a>]
02:03:20 ◼ ► more expensive it sounds like it should be more expensive and I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7400">TS</a>]
02:03:23 ◼ ► the iPhone can be pretty maybe the thing I can't see them doing is picking some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7403">TS</a>]
02:03:28 ◼ ► adjectives that means big no no that doesn't it does not mean I joked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7408">TS</a>]
02:03:32 ◼ ► iPhone huge but it's a terrible i mean you can't now if I had a if I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7412">TS</a>]
02:03:36 ◼ ► make a bet I would probably bet that they're just gonna call them the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7416">TS</a>]
02:03:40 ◼ ► 6 and there's two models right but it wouldn't what size you want yeah but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7420">TS</a>]
02:03:45 ◼ ► wouldn't shock me if if it was the iPhone 6 and the iPhone air or if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7425">TS</a>]
02:03:50 ◼ ► no because they're never going to prioritize the big one of the big ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7430">TS</a>]
02:03:52 ◼ ► the news products will be the iPhone 6 our air and then I just have a hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7432">TS</a>]
02:03:57 ◼ ► I I think the best pro they could do but I i'm inclined to just guessed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7437">TS</a>]
02:04:02 ◼ ► they're gonna say there's two iPhone success which one do you want big one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7442">TS</a>]
02:04:06 ◼ ► the little one and then well and the other thing I've seen people say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7446">TS</a>]
02:04:10 ◼ ► the big 10 be called the iPad iPhone air but I think they're they're myopic just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7450">TS</a>]
02:04:14 ◼ ► doesn't know what they're looking at the they're looking at the iPad's where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7454">TS</a>]
02:04:22 ◼ ► bigger iPad is the air that's true right but the other one has a name called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7462">TS</a>]
02:04:28 ◼ ► million which puts it in order and the error is really kind of sort of an in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7468">TS</a>]
02:04:33 ◼ ► joke or not in Joe but it's like a reference to all previous iPads where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7473">TS</a>]
02:04:38 ◼ ► it's so much lighter than the iPad used to be and they're never gonna call the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7478">TS</a>]
02:04:42 ◼ ► mainstream iPhone the iPhone mini that's kind of crazy know and they can't call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7482">TS</a>]
02:04:46 ◼ ► one thats 4.7 inches the many because it's way bigger significantly but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7486">TS</a>]
02:04:53 ◼ ► that way but significantly bigger than ever so they can't say there's this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7493">TS</a>]
02:04:58 ◼ ► 4.7 inch screen it significantly bigger as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7498">TS</a>]
02:05:01 ◼ ► million more pics of this shows all this year's how much more content you see and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7501">TS</a>]
02:05:07 ◼ ► it's called the many know doesn't have one more sponsoring now and I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7507">TS</a>]
02:05:12 ◼ ► get back to that this thing about us mean you know in our last sponsor of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7512">TS</a>]
02:05:18 ◼ ► day is our good friends at transporter from connected data so would you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7518">TS</a>]
02:05:24 ◼ ► your own private cloud that lets you secure we store and share files in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7524">TS</a>]
02:05:29 ◼ ► that is completely private and resistant to government snooping or to any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7529">TS</a>]
02:05:36 ◼ ► unfortunate things that can happen through the public cloud services which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7536">TS</a>]
02:05:40 ◼ ► may or may not have been publicized recently that's what file transporter is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7540">TS</a>]
02:05:45 ◼ ► you by file transporter from them or more than one it's a device that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7545">TS</a>]
02:05:53 ◼ ► built into your plugin you put it under wifi you install software on your Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7553">TS</a>]
02:05:58 ◼ ► and all of a sudden you have a Dropbox like folder on your Mac that shows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7558">TS</a>]
02:06:03 ◼ ► contents of that device and you put something in the folder and it goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7563">TS</a>]
02:06:08 ◼ ► the device and its hard drive to and you can then log into a different computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7568">TS</a>]
02:06:14 ◼ ► login your transporter count and the same files show up there and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7574">TS</a>]
02:06:19 ◼ ► could buy a second device and you could put it in a different location and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7579">TS</a>]
02:06:23 ◼ ► the same account and the same files will go from here to there there but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7583">TS</a>]
02:06:29 ◼ ► only there the data is only on you have one file transporter that's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7589">TS</a>]
02:06:34 ◼ ► place where your days other than on your Mac's that you login to your max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7594">TS</a>]
02:06:39 ◼ ► you have a second one it will sync between the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7599">TS</a>]
02:06:43 ◼ ► the only thing they go through the cloud and their servers for is the negotiation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7603">TS</a>]
02:06:48 ◼ ► to poke holes through the test set up a peer-to-peer to poke through the router [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7608">TS</a>]
02:06:53 ◼ ► they don't have any kind of storage in the cloud for your stuff your stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7613">TS</a>]
02:06:59 ◼ ► only search stored on the device is that you hold in your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7619">TS</a>]
02:07:04 ◼ ► big difference from cloud-based services really really appealing to many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7624">TS</a>]
02:07:10 ◼ ► and if it appeals to you I encourage you to check this out because I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7630">TS</a>]
02:07:16 ◼ ► of any other way to do this then I'll transporter I have one here works like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7636">TS</a>]
02:07:24 ◼ ► really good stuff they have two ways to get one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7644">TS</a>]
02:07:30 ◼ ► the regular file transporter comes with a built-in hard disk they have 500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7650">TS</a>]
02:07:36 ◼ ► gigabyte one terabyte two terabyte capacities you buy one and one by one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7656">TS</a>]
02:07:40 ◼ ► those use this code TTS like the talk-show TTS 10 and you'll save 10% off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7660">TS</a>]
02:07:48 ◼ ► your purchase the other way to do it is you can buy the transporters think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7668">TS</a>]
02:07:53 ◼ ► that's the one that's like a little Apple TV size puck and that one you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7673">TS</a>]
02:07:58 ◼ ► take a USB Drive any USB Drive you already have big hard drive sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7678">TS</a>]
02:08:02 ◼ ► around you want to buy or are you just buy your own hard drives and plug it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7682">TS</a>]
02:08:05 ◼ ► by USB so that to cheaper gadget has your supply your own hard drive you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7685">TS</a>]
02:08:12 ◼ ► save 20 bucks when you buy one of those with this code TTS 20 all orders using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7692">TS</a>]
02:08:18 ◼ ► either of those codes get free shipping so use those codes by the one you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7698">TS</a>]
02:08:25 ◼ ► file transporter store.com WWW dot file transporter store.com and remember those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7705">TS</a>]
02:08:37 ◼ ► and TTS 2000 wrapping up the show go on a long time but there's lots to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7717">TS</a>]
02:08:43 ◼ ► about here is that I am inundated this week more than any other previous Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7723">TS</a>]
02:08:47 ◼ ► event with people who think that I've already gotta watch I've already got and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7727">TS</a>]
02:08:54 ◼ ► I had somehow it to mine I'd certainly is never worth that way with me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7734">TS</a>]
02:09:00 ◼ ► certainly never work that way with anybody who I know like my friends like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7740">TS</a>]
02:09:04 ◼ ► you in the industry and it's also to my knowledge never work that way for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7744">TS</a>]
02:09:10 ◼ ► but not before they announced it not before they announced they just don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7750">TS</a>]
02:09:16 ◼ ► like you know that they don't they you know the whole point of the announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7756">TS</a>]
02:09:21 ◼ ► as they don't want anybody including us to see it and in fact the reason they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7761">TS</a>]
02:09:25 ◼ ► invited to the event is that they want us to see it for the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7765">TS</a>]
02:09:30 ◼ ► specifically the way that they're going to do it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7770">TS</a>]
02:09:34 ◼ ► whether it's going to be projected on a screen or it's going to come out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7774">TS</a>]
02:09:39 ◼ ► pedestal in the middle of the floor like I think there was that the iPhone 5 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7779">TS</a>]
02:09:43 ◼ ► used that trick couple of times they're right but you know whatever it is smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7783">TS</a>]
02:09:50 ◼ ► whatever great but I know and I don't know a lot about how they prep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7790">TS</a>]
02:09:54 ◼ ► keynote I don't know you know they're very secretive just about the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7794">TS</a>]
02:09:57 ◼ ► process but I do know that they go out like Phil Schiller and everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7797">TS</a>]
02:10:02 ◼ ► who will go out to like seats in the room and like do it again and I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7802">TS</a>]
02:10:07 ◼ ► from here you know and then steve Jobs was was around you know that he would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7807">TS</a>]
02:10:11 ◼ ► and sit in the audience and see you know that that's how we find out the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7811">TS</a>]
02:10:16 ◼ ► you know we definitely don't know the names and I think my track record over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7816">TS</a>]
02:10:21 ◼ ► the years of predicting product names should should prove that and if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7821">TS</a>]
02:10:27 ◼ ► didn't know we won't be able to make predictions right that's true that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7827">TS</a>]
02:10:31 ◼ ► true in the fact that we do make predictions shows how little we know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7831">TS</a>]
02:10:36 ◼ ► if somebody whispered something to me who's not you know feeding it to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7836">TS</a>]
02:10:39 ◼ ► officially in any official capacity which is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7839">TS</a>]
02:10:42 ◼ ► accompanied by what was the cause of the non-disclosure agreement right like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7842">TS</a>]
02:10:49 ◼ ► you do get embargo Iran India right you know i i read I'd try to skim over but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7849">TS</a>]
02:10:55 ◼ ► truly do get like a review unit before after it's been announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7855">TS</a>]
02:11:00 ◼ ► always after it's been announced but before it's available in stores it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7860">TS</a>]
02:11:05 ◼ ► there's a thing that says here in a in like for example you know the usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7865">TS</a>]
02:11:10 ◼ ► it's like last couple of years there's the iPhone event on a Tuesday and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7870">TS</a>]
02:11:18 ◼ ► who get reviewing its you sign a thing and it says the embargo is until 6 p.m. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7878">TS</a>]
02:11:22 ◼ ► Pacific the next wednesday and then the fact that at 601 Pacific the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7882">TS</a>]
02:11:30 ◼ ► wednesday there's right that's not a coincidence that's because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7890">TS</a>]
02:11:36 ◼ ► everybody has agreed to that you know and nobody knows anything before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7896">TS</a>]
02:11:42 ◼ ► and nobody is allowed to publish anything after they know it before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7902">TS</a>]
02:11:46 ◼ ► date it's it works it's it's a lot more obvious how it works and you think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7906">TS</a>]
02:11:52 ◼ ► is no secret cabal of people who are filled in before the event because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7912">TS</a>]
02:11:56 ◼ ► what you get is you'd get your David Pogue or what mossberg or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7916">TS</a>]
02:12:00 ◼ ► writing a story about the product the moment the product out announced and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7920">TS</a>]
02:12:05 ◼ ► that doesn't happen they act like with that the iMac with the flat panel screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7925">TS</a>]
02:12:11 ◼ ► in the arm got leaked by time magazine right mean that they used to do it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7931">TS</a>]
02:12:15 ◼ ► then but they don't they don't do it anymore they haven't done it for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7935">TS</a>]
02:12:18 ◼ ► than a decade right and I do think you know and and part of it is just there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7938">TS</a>]
02:12:24 ◼ ► there go to market strategy man and you know my eyes are open and then I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7944">TS</a>]
02:12:29 ◼ ► that that's part of it is that if the thing is announced on a Tuesday and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7949">TS</a>]
02:12:35 ◼ ► the embargo date is eight days later on Wednesday and anything actually goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7955">TS</a>]
02:12:39 ◼ ► sale two days later Friday that that's all according to the schedule of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7959">TS</a>]
02:12:44 ◼ ► they think maximizes interest in the people who on Friday will go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7964">TS</a>]
02:12:50 ◼ ► you know for stuff over but I I also do think though that part of that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7970">TS</a>]
02:12:55 ◼ ► though is is that they really do want reviewers to have to spend a week before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7975">TS</a>]
02:13:03 ◼ ► yeah that they don't want reviewer you know they they wouldn't want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7983">TS</a>]
02:13:07 ◼ ► write a review to race you know ok you can hear your new iPhone you can write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7987">TS</a>]
02:13:13 ◼ ► your review whatever you want I don't think they would do that happened with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7993">TS</a>]
02:13:16 ◼ ► the first iPad and that was the worst because they announced that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/7996">TS</a>]
02:13:20 ◼ ► they did their event saying it was gonna ship and there were Fargo reviews the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8000">TS</a>]
02:13:25 ◼ ► dropped and I wasn't part of that but then I got one basically the Dave Barger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8005">TS</a>]
02:13:31 ◼ ► reviews drop her the next day and I said is there any embargo and the like no and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8011">TS</a>]
02:13:36 ◼ ► it was the worst cause I could literally write about it immediately but I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8016">TS</a>]
02:13:40 ◼ ► spent any time with it and that's awful because you feel time pressure and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8020">TS</a>]
02:13:45 ◼ ► can't actually invest the time you have to invest the time while everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8025">TS</a>]
02:13:49 ◼ ► shouting at you to get your story done so the luxury of having eight days to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8029">TS</a>]
02:13:53 ◼ ► think about this product is great as a writer but it also means as Apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8033">TS</a>]
02:13:58 ◼ ► you were you know these writers that you've hand-selected are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8038">TS</a>]
02:14:03 ◼ ► writing about it you know I didn't have time to think about it and not they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8043">TS</a>]
02:14:07 ◼ ► not gonna do a cheap job on it they're gonna they're gonna put a lot of effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8047">TS</a>]
02:14:12 ◼ ► into it and it's not like within your case that the boss was breathing down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8052">TS</a>]
02:14:17 ◼ ► try to publish it but you it's just the simple pressure that you know that Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8057">TS</a>]
02:14:22 ◼ ► world's readers are coming to the site and that their reloading the homepage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8062">TS</a>]
02:14:27 ◼ ► like I can't wait to see what they have to say about fifteen 15 people got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8067">TS</a>]
02:14:31 ◼ ► and wrote their reviews and I wasn't in that group but now I'm in a group of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8071">TS</a>]
02:14:34 ◼ ► very small number of people who have the iPad before it out and so I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8074">TS</a>]
02:14:40 ◼ ► something that nobody except for that first wave of 10 people has has gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8080">TS</a>]
02:14:45 ◼ ► their hands on so I I need to do something with that but what is that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8085">TS</a>]
02:14:49 ◼ ► I have no no restrictions whatsoever so literally I could just be like to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8089">TS</a>]
02:14:53 ◼ ► do here I am I had like a live update for two days and nobody wants to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8093">TS</a>]
02:14:59 ◼ ► that but you have to make very difficult decisions then and it's certainly a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8099">TS</a>]
02:15:03 ◼ ► to just say I've got eight days to worry about what I'm gonna write yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8103">TS</a>]
02:15:08 ◼ ► hard enough to do a good review in eight days but it's it's III I couldn't write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8108">TS</a>]
02:15:12 ◼ ► a review in a way that I try to write reviews in one or two days I like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8112">TS</a>]
02:15:19 ◼ ► think back to the original iPhone right you know it was I didn't get anything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8119">TS</a>]
02:15:23 ◼ ► think only three or four that was back in the days when only the the new 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8123">TS</a>]
02:15:26 ◼ ► newspaper review unit trade I think it was Steven Levy and big poco mas right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8126">TS</a>]
02:15:33 ◼ ► guess levy wasn't a newspaper this week but he was on the list from covering the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8133">TS</a>]
02:15:38 ◼ ► iPod right and it was still the sort of Steve Jobs is you know if it's not print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8138">TS</a>]
02:15:46 ◼ ► newsweek grahmeen steven levy is you know it is the special case because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8146">TS</a>]
02:15:51 ◼ ► awesome and has been around for years when I haven't had it in advance I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8151">TS</a>]
02:15:58 ◼ ► I had I i've made a little agreement with myself like I i get the phone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8158">TS</a>]
02:16:03 ◼ ► Friday or the Thursday night before the Friday sometimes but you know I get it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8163">TS</a>]
02:16:07 ◼ ► get it basically when people get it and you know my reviews wouldn't run into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8167">TS</a>]
02:16:12 ◼ ► like Tuesday or Wednesday I would basically sematech the weekend and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8172">TS</a>]
02:16:15 ◼ ► use it I'm gonna ride I'm going to give it some time because there's no point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8175">TS</a>]
02:16:19 ◼ ► all the reviews are those that were coming up the day of already came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8179">TS</a>]
02:16:23 ◼ ► two days before so i cant be them and I don't want to write a slapdash one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8183">TS</a>]
02:16:29 ◼ ► review there's no point in that so let me take my time and the people who care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8189">TS</a>]
02:16:34 ◼ ► about getting the depth later will will care because I've already missed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8194">TS</a>]
02:16:38 ◼ ► weekend and so on and I'm not gonna read a crappy review yeah I remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8198">TS</a>]
02:16:45 ◼ ► first iPhone you know I certainly did anything in advance I just got in line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8205">TS</a>]
02:16:49 ◼ ► literally waited in line with everybody all day long at the King of Prussia Mall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8209">TS</a>]
02:16:52 ◼ ► here in Philly and got home that night had terrible problems activating it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8212">TS</a>]
02:17:01 ◼ ► felt like I was ready to die and then just banged out my initial thought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8221">TS</a>]
02:17:07 ◼ ► know like you know wow thats I can't believe they're using comic sans in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8227">TS</a>]
02:17:11 ◼ ► notes you know I mean I was excited and I think I had some interesting first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8231">TS</a>]
02:17:14 ◼ ► observations but it was more or less like I was publishing my notes it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8234">TS</a>]
02:17:18 ◼ ► that I was reading an article I just published my notes because I couldn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8238">TS</a>]
02:17:22 ◼ ► had to write something I felt not dead just because I was so excited that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8242">TS</a>]
02:17:26 ◼ ► actually is nothing that's actually really good technique and sometimes I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8246">TS</a>]
02:17:29 ◼ ► that too it's like let me give you my notes of like first impressions but some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8249">TS</a>]
02:17:33 ◼ ► right I still need to think about it but here's some stuff I noticed and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8253">TS</a>]
02:17:36 ◼ ► move I guess I guess what I'm trying to say it's one of those things where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8256">TS</a>]
02:17:40 ◼ ► only used it to me the only two interesting ways to do it is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8260">TS</a>]
02:17:44 ◼ ► really here's my notes my first impressions or here's something i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8264">TS</a>]
02:17:47 ◼ ► taken at least a week to sort of but it totally what do you think of the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8267">TS</a>]
02:17:56 ◼ ► venue moving to the Anza College whatever I've never been there never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8276">TS</a>]
02:18:03 ◼ ► been there I didn't hear the event when they held it there when they introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8283">TS</a>]
02:18:06 ◼ ► the first iMac was all before my time as you know before you during fireball was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8286">TS</a>]
02:18:12 ◼ ► even existed and there's the mysterious big mystery about crime nobody knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8292">TS</a>]
02:18:19 ◼ ► where there's nobody knows if it to building I mean some people think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8299">TS</a>]
02:18:22 ◼ ► like just scaffolding to cover what's under yeah I think this is i mean people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8302">TS</a>]
02:18:27 ◼ ► of the Apple criminology you know everybody loves that but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8307">TS</a>]
02:18:32 ◼ ► why I think one reason is that finding event venues as hard in the conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8312">TS</a>]
02:18:38 ◼ ► center stuff tends to get booked sometimes years in advance so they may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8318">TS</a>]
02:18:43 ◼ ► have looked for a good Moscone West time and just not found one or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8323">TS</a>]
02:18:47 ◼ ► and your boy features too small and they want they really wanted to invite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8327">TS</a>]
02:18:51 ◼ ► larger crowd we've been some reports of LAX fashion industry people invited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8331">TS</a>]
02:18:55 ◼ ► take it at some point they they're gonna run out of space for the for the press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8335">TS</a>]
02:18:58 ◼ ► if anything can get Moscone West the number of venues in the bay area that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8338">TS</a>]
02:19:02 ◼ ► can that can fit that are are limited and then I also know from talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8342">TS</a>]
02:19:08 ◼ ► people at Apple that they've always you know they're based in Cupertino it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8348">TS</a>]
02:19:13 ◼ ► anytime you doing in San Francisco if there's a lot of overhead in coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8353">TS</a>]
02:19:17 ◼ ► to the city and you gotta get hotel rooms in there in the city for days at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8357">TS</a>]
02:19:20 ◼ ► the venue before him because their hours their hours there pre-event hours are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8360">TS</a>]
02:19:25 ◼ ► crazy they can't afford the back and forth as it is about an hour an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8365">TS</a>]
02:19:30 ◼ ► from if if you get catch traffic well yeah yeah but I mean yes unless you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8370">TS</a>]
02:19:34 ◼ ► going through like exactly the commute it's our issues between them so you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8374">TS</a>]
02:19:38 ◼ ► settling back up and down especially since a lot of times the the night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8378">TS</a>]
02:19:41 ◼ ► before the event there there late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8381">TS</a>]
02:19:43 ◼ ► write it all down and so you've got all of your people who are setting up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8383">TS</a>]
02:19:48 ◼ ► venue and are going to be participating are off site far away and that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8388">TS</a>]
02:19:54 ◼ ► know it's something that they they do with WBC for instance then and any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8394">TS</a>]
02:19:59 ◼ ► event they do it in the city but definitely it's an added bit of a pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8399">TS</a>]
02:20:04 ◼ ► that I think they would rather not do and I'm pretty sure that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8404">TS</a>]
02:20:07 ◼ ► constructing an event space in the new campus will allow them to just do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8407">TS</a>]
02:20:11 ◼ ► events on campus town hall is too small too so I think I think it was closed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8411">TS</a>]
02:20:16 ◼ ► its big and then the structure my guess is like literally it was closed and big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8416">TS</a>]
02:20:22 ◼ ► but it didn't have room for hands-on area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8422">TS</a>]
02:20:25 ◼ ► briefing room something like that no like you know it's better for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8425">TS</a>]
02:20:28 ◼ ► tremendous and build a temporary structure than it is to go somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8428">TS</a>]
02:20:30 ◼ ► else so let's just do it well as remember the 12 years ago that was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8430">TS</a>]
02:20:35 ◼ ► San Jose California theater right they've done the U-two color iPod I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8435">TS</a>]
02:20:43 ◼ ► wasn't going to events at that time so I I missed that one that was a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8443">TS</a>]
02:20:49 ◼ ► theater California theater in san Jose is beautiful hands on everything was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8449">TS</a>]
02:20:53 ◼ ► totally a nightmare exactly that's going to hands-on area was like going up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8453">TS</a>]
02:20:59 ◼ ► your parents attic imagine hundreds of people in a space that was like barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8459">TS</a>]
02:21:04 ◼ ► big enough for you to go buy some doobies at the counter yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8464">TS</a>]
02:21:07 ◼ ► exactly what it was it was like here's where they're usually just selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8467">TS</a>]
02:21:11 ◼ ► you know you didn't it didn't it was it was a nice venue but there was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8471">TS</a>]
02:21:17 ◼ ► like to have one hands-on area so that the press can get their hands on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8477">TS</a>]
02:21:22 ◼ ► stuff and take pictures with Tim Cook coming out and looking at the new stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8482">TS</a>]
02:21:26 ◼ ► and then they also like to have a briefing areas where they can meet with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8486">TS</a>]
02:21:30 ◼ ► the press and that's where you you know if you're getting an advanced unit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8490">TS</a>]
02:21:33 ◼ ► that's where you pick it up and you know that's a big checklist of items and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8493">TS</a>]
02:21:39 ◼ ► think there's very few venues like Moscone West I'll do it but my guess is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8499">TS</a>]
02:21:42 ◼ ► that must coalesce wasn't available or I don't think I have the effort just had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8502">TS</a>]
02:21:47 ◼ ► pure product introduction at my school my time a house I think they have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8507">TS</a>]
02:21:54 ◼ ► it where they've literally just taken it for the day but but it's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8514">TS</a>]
02:21:57 ◼ ► conference space and they're very difficult to get space something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8517">TS</a>]
02:22:02 ◼ ► that so yeah I think it's i think thats what I thought I think it's gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8522">TS</a>]
02:22:07 ◼ ► with a nice simple Occam's Razor explanation that they pick the venue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8527">TS</a>]
02:22:11 ◼ ► because it has a lot of seats and they do want to invite more people I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8531">TS</a>]
02:22:16 ◼ ► that could've taken at the lake where the San Jose Sharks play arena of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8536">TS</a>]
02:22:21 ◼ ► see but they could in theory they could but I think they wouldn't because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8541">TS</a>]
02:22:25 ◼ ► wouldn't like the the true but that that's the difficulty in finding a venue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8545">TS</a>]
02:22:30 ◼ ► that's like the right size for them that's like conference base and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8550">TS</a>]
02:22:34 ◼ ► sporting arena and then I think the big white box is a big white temporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8554">TS</a>]
02:22:41 ◼ ► hands-on area because if they've invited more ppl is getting a lot more you no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8561">TS</a>]
02:22:47 ◼ ► need for a big one and the last time I tried in the theater with the tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8567">TS</a>]
02:22:51 ◼ ► little thing it was actually a very unpleasant and I just that I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8571">TS</a>]
02:22:55 ◼ ► so many people that can get into the center too so it makes it even worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8575">TS</a>]
02:22:59 ◼ ► that like now you've got this big venue ok but then you really need a big hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8579">TS</a>]
02:23:02 ◼ ► on area where you're going to have members of the press waiting for hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8582">TS</a>]
02:23:06 ◼ ► to get through the doors by the you know get a needed by the fire marshal to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8586">TS</a>]
02:23:11 ◼ ► into a space and so you've got a you know the MathWorks will soon as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8591">TS</a>]
02:23:16 ◼ ► venue gets bigger the hands-on area has to get bigger like town hall they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8596">TS</a>]
02:23:19 ◼ ► the little piano lounge across the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8599">TS</a>]
02:23:21 ◼ ► way and that's a tight fit because small the piano lounge is also small and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8601">TS</a>]
02:23:27 ◼ ► doesn't fit yeah that's not that pleasant either and that's you know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8607">TS</a>]
02:23:32 ◼ ► the overflow crowd you know you know take however many people spit in town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8612">TS</a>]
02:23:37 ◼ ► hall they may be invited to more and that's it's just already so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8617">TS</a>]
02:23:43 ◼ ► that's when they get their hands on their end maybe they also have some like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8623">TS</a>]
02:23:47 ◼ ► temporary briefing rooms or something in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8627">TS</a>]
02:23:50 ◼ ► yeah yeah probably and and maybe they have some stuff to demo that does take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8630">TS</a>]
02:23:56 ◼ ► more physical space home kit car Plano car play and you know and that all fits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8636">TS</a>]
02:24:03 ◼ ► in I don't think it's super mysterious though you know and I don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8643">TS</a>]
02:24:07 ◼ ► they've built like a full-scale home in a sanction people speculated that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8647">TS</a>]
02:24:12 ◼ ► that's crazy I didn't need to do that did maybe they have some couches and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8652">TS</a>]
02:24:16 ◼ ► whatever you know I agree with you i think there's a razor explanation is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8656">TS</a>]
02:24:23 ◼ ► best witches this was a venue they could get and the one thing that didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8663">TS</a>]
02:24:27 ◼ ► with space for hands on stuff so you know and when you're playing with in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8667">TS</a>]
02:24:33 ◼ ► Apple's league in your shopping around for venues you look at the cost of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8673">TS</a>]
02:24:37 ◼ ► setting up a temporary structure for a week and pencil it in and maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8677">TS</a>]
02:24:42 ◼ ► actually as ridiculous as it seems maybe that's the best deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8682">TS</a>]
02:24:45 ◼ ► yeah that's exactly what I think exactly now will embarrass ourselves back they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8685">TS</a>]
02:24:53 ◼ ► didn't realize we built an entire house under there and it was full of wearable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8693">TS</a>]
02:24:56 ◼ ► devices and fresh but I can't wait I can't wait for the next time I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8696">TS</a>]
02:25:01 ◼ ► to see you in two days let you know less than two days I will see you I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8701">TS</a>]
02:25:05 ◼ ► almost always run into you in the morning outside the event and if they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8705">TS</a>]
02:25:10 ◼ ► uncovered it something else we could just look at it so that we won't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8710">TS</a>]
02:25:13 ◼ ► need to talk now just hide our heads and James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8713">TS</a>]
02:25:16 ◼ ► exactly right under a silent apology to talk show listeners have to have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8716">TS</a>]
02:25:22 ◼ ► right back on the next episodes guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8722">TS</a>]
02:25:29 ◼ ► Jason self thank you so much for your time thanks for having me i it it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8729">TS</a>]
02:25:34 ◼ ► lot of fun it's great to be on you know I just your voice is like butter on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8734">TS</a>]
02:25:40 ◼ ► podcast app I guess that means better hopefully well you know it you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8740">TS</a>]
02:25:45 ◼ ► do a lot of vodka I do you may have a problem you and Renee you guys get a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8745">TS</a>]
02:25:52 ◼ ► plus you've got overcast in your docs here listening to a lot of pot yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8752">TS</a>]
02:25:58 ◼ ► I hear your voice in my head phones a lot and I usually don't get to talk back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz55aOM/8758">TS</a>]