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95: ‘Twenty-One Thousand Words’, With Rene Ritchie

 

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00:14:24   past and often at least Woodside capacity issues but they made sure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/864">TS</a>]

00:14:28   had room for two thousand odd people including fashion bloggers and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/868">TS</a>]

00:14:33   introduced me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   to watch bloggers were there too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/875">TS</a>]

00:14:38   yeah you know I didn't know Ben Clymer personally even though I've been a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/878">TS</a>]

00:14:44   of this site for a very long time but I actually thought about introducing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/884">TS</a>]

00:14:49   myself to him in advance just sending an email I don't know if i could assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/889">TS</a>]

00:14:53   that he's returned fire but maybe but even if not I would take that pointed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/893">TS</a>]

00:14:58   say what I do and just saying hey did you get an invitation to this event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/898">TS</a>]

00:15:02   because I thought that would have been you know sure-fire tell that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/902">TS</a>]

00:15:06   gonna do watch I can't help but think to the fact that guy and maybe he couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/906">TS</a>]

00:15:11   say maybe got an invitation that city can talk about it but I think the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/911">TS</a>]

00:15:14   that that Ben Clymer was there and it presumably other people from the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/914">TS</a>]

00:15:19   world is why the fact that they were gonna do watch leaked within about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/919">TS</a>]

00:15:26   last week was even just a month prior when I suggested that maybe they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/926">TS</a>]

00:15:33   do the wearable at the September event even though all the previous rumors said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/933">TS</a>]

00:15:37   it would be in October thing it was like a big deal for a day that I said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/937">TS</a>]

00:15:40   everybody was expecting October right and then all of a sudden about a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/940">TS</a>]

00:15:45   before it was like are you going to do and can't help but think it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/945">TS</a>]

00:15:49   they started inviting people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   well i mean that that joke comment that you made was terrific mean that bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/951">TS</a>]

00:15:56   propagated credibly quickly across the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/956">TS</a>]

00:15:59   yeah well it really was though wasn't just anybody told it to me it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/959">TS</a>]

00:16:04   honestly just a hunch that it would make sense as a single event here is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/964">TS</a>]

00:16:09   thing where you can do touch I D on your phone here's this thing you know to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/969">TS</a>]

00:16:13   the payment thing was coming and it just seemed like well why not do it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/973">TS</a>]

00:16:18   watch and same thing with all the health tracking whereas I don't see how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/978">TS</a>]

00:16:22   watch would fit with an iPad and you seventy event in october is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/982">TS</a>]

00:16:27   a companion product specifically for the iPhone that makes sense to do in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/987">TS</a>]

00:16:30   iPhone event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   yeah and that's the other thing too I did see I that I didn't know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/992">TS</a>]

00:16:36   nobody knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/996">TS</a>]

00:16:36   dance that it was going to be a eight you need you need an iPhone to fully use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/996">TS</a>]

00:16:40   the watch right you know they've said to use it . even know a lot of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:47   functionality is not dependent on being within proximity the phone but yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:53   makes sense to and it's not surprising and it was it was a really strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:58   morning as uni and I think we're standing with Jason Snelling a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:01   other people and we noticed that Apple was quite as I live blogging their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:05   event which I yeah that's totally now you know and I you know I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:10   thought that what you said with the capacity that they cite have it here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:14   because we can't find a bigger place I don't recall and and Jason snow doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:21   snow that seems to think that they might have done this at some point but I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:25   recall them ever using Moscow near West other than as a keynote from Macworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:29   Expo WWDC when when you know moscow has already been rented out that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:38   never and I think you know and he said he thinks maybe they have but it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:42   because of somebody else like and last week for example Intel Developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:47   Conference in moscow me west so they couldn't had to literally could not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:51   done it but I don't think they've ever done that and that's a huge room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53   potentially other than that they have five in all the years I've been going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:58   these things I've never seen one that was in an event venue as large as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:02   historic for Apple to because he made a point of putting out this is where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:06   Mac in the iMac oranges use the biggest surprise to me and this sign that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:14   PR has truly evolved and changed that brian lamb was invited and now at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:22   great great wire cutters site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25   and I think it's great that he did but the reason had remarkable is that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:29   the guy who was running Gizmodo back when they had their hands on the stolen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:34   iPhone from the bar where the Apple engineer at left it and he's the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:39   answered the phone when Steve Jobs personally called and said give me back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:43   my phone and said no you know we want something from you before we get it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:47   here the fact that he is now off the shitlist and on the invitation list is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:52   remarkable I even with all of the expansion of it even with the return of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:57   Gizmodo has everybody who was there back then has gone from Gizmodo now they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1137">TS</a>]

00:19:01   you know dr. sites go through employees you know like butter churning even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:09   you believe a penalty box has expired on Gizmodo he never quite sure if the ban [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:13   on that specific players been listed exactly you know and I think it's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:17   i think you know forgive and forget you know brian lamb is doing very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:20   work and much better work these days and why not but i just no way I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:25   believe that that would happen if Katie was there again if he'll sort of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:30   huge constraint that had been on them has been lifted and they can do a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:33   the things that they probably thought would be cool and fun along time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:36   like the countdown timer on apple.com totally yeah and the live blog guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:42   have suspected an end would put a computer does not live blogging it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:45   from the floor with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:46   did you see him know he he wasn't there apparently oh I didn't know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:50   looked around for but it was so many people I I'm surprised I found as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:54   people friends that I knew before the event as I did it was so crazy I took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:59   panoramic picture and a couple people comment and i twittered it and a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:04   people said it looks like like one of the Disney World theme parks in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:09   morning before they open the gates you know when thousands of people show up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:13   try to be you know get on the rides first time ever really did its some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:18   people were saying in in Apple's a little cagey about stuff like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:21   how many people actually were there I don't think they they don't like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:25   answer to that but somebody said that they had the capacity twice that of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:29   boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:30   I I don't see how that's possible that has to be more than twice I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:33   because I've been here many times and have never seen half that many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:39   there I you know it seems like a third fewer someone mentioned it sees between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:43   2000 and 2,400 and I saw later some people that I know some friends have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:48   were there and they tweeted that they were there and I did not see them at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:51   throughout the entire course of the event the other thing I thought 20 lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:58   more Apple people there to even with this expansion in the list of press who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:02   are there to cover it which is definitely true they invited way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:06   Apple people to be there at the end when Tim Cook said hey everybody who's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:10   from Apple please do me a favor stand up right now she might have the crowds yea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:15   verily they had an internal lottery in some of the department they couldn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18   everybody so you get a chance to go and a bunch of people that picked so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:24   know after a week and a half now has a record this looking back on how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:30   what do you what are your thoughts on the event is all I think the event I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:34   have sort of two trains of thought about it one is that I think the stuff itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:38   was really really interesting stuff they showed off the iPhones was similar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:43   when they finally went from AT&T to Verizon they finally went from four inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:46   to larger iPhones and you can argue whether she had done that earlier I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:50   think they had really good timing but also it wasn't quite like the iPad or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:55   the iPhone event and I think specifically the iPad of it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:58   steve Jobs was so careful to say this is your phone this is your laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:03   this is the tablet and this is what it does better than both those things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:06   this is a reason it has to exist in with the iPhone it was you know these are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:10   old keyboards and this is why their wrong and the old input methods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:13   technologies and why they're on and for the phones and the white we got a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:20   of really amazing features but there was never that one moment where Tim Cook or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:24   anybody at Apple said this is this is the reason this has to exist for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:30   iPhone sex or the I what I think it was clearly we can extrapolate it like I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:36   watch is clearly convenience and the iPhone 6 is clearly a higher class of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:40   software eventually but it was never stated outright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   on a single slider and a single sort of slogan I think for two very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:46   reasons though I think with the iPhones its they're not hard for anybody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:53   used an iPhone to get their heads around the screen is either bigger or way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:59   bigger and the cameras better and they get better battery life and thinner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:05   sleeker and right you can pretty much stop right there you know it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:14   I don't think I wasted any words in my review but I think that a very short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:17   overview can get across 85 percent of what most people would want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:22   about these funds the iPhone 6 is bigger gets a little bit better battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:27   the screen as nicely improved in terms of viewing angles in color and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:33   like that and the cameras and that's it you know and you can you can get it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:38   higher storage capacities and in the iPhone 6 plus it's way bigger if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:44   want I can new style device that's that's like a two-handed iPhone size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:48   more like a mini tablet and you gonna get a couple more hours of battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:52   predict because the battery is so there's there's a new class iPhone for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:59   you and stop right there and I think that covers what it what it means for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:03   eighty-five percent of people yeah I agree completely I think my only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:06   reservation is that you're never sure we all we all live in bubbles of various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:10   sizes and I i have Nexus 5 and I have a Lumia 10:20 and I have I've used Galaxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:17   Note and Galaxy magazine and things like that the big phone so I'm a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:20   familiar with them but I think a lot of people have only bought iPhones are only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:23   familiar with the 3.5 and 4 inch size and to hear why Apple didn't continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:29   that likewise they went to the bigger screen I think the argument to be made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:35   for the iPhone six-plus but even the iPhone 6 there's a really brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:41   statement about we're gonna give you more we're gonna give you a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:44   window window into the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   taps it would just be used a little bit of the stress that people had when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:50   know instead of saying oh my god they abandoned the four-engine be a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:53   this is so much more than I can do now with 4.7 yeah and I've been thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:57   about that you know maybe even close to a year ever since it became so strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1497">TS</a>]

00:25:02   rumoured that they were going to go to two sizes four point seven and 5.5 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:09   not have a next generation model at the foreign side size I've been thinking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:15   a long time you know the whole time the whole year while I like four point zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:19   inches and 4.0 inches is the size of the most best-selling the best-selling most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:28   profitable phone in the world because that's what the iPhone 5s what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:33   an iPhone 5 see was like I don't know like thirdly the third best-selling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:38   most profitable smartphone in the world like 32 out of the top three selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:43   phones in a world where 4.0 inches last year and they've now they've just let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:49   you know when I asked about this and one of the things I was told was well we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:53   haven't left behind we still have those funds are just move down the line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:57   including the fact that you can buy a new 5s at 32 gigabytes not just at 16:49 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:04   dollars more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:05   $249 on contract and that's not entirely new either because the five see when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:12   was a brand new device last year came in 16 and 32 gigabytes sizes too but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:19   like that's a little bit more of a just seems to me like a little bit more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:22   hedge now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   escape hatch if you're not quite ready to grow with Apple to the larger screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:28   sizes yet right so I don't know I wonder if they're gonna wait and look at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:32   people buy and what how things go for it what they're thinking like it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:37   totally III I would expect that next year we're just gonna get asked I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:43   have to use an ass but equivalent I found success and iPhone success + and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:47   the two new phones will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:50   these sizes I don't expect there to be you know them to go back to four points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:56   early inches it sounds to me like they've said here's the at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1616">TS</a>]

00:27:00   with the technology where technology has evolved where prices have evolved on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:04   screens what's the best sweet spot to hit the most people with the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:08   amount of choice these are the two sizes they've decided on I think but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1628">TS</a>]

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00:27:26   wouldn't shock me but i dont expected and I think it's interesting and you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:31   a good post before the event on what you thought the screen sizes would be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:36   why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:36   and it reminded me of the first time I read it of when steve Jobs was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:39   about the difference between the iPad and Android tablets when they were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:44   basically expanding the interface and he was saying that with the iPad and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:48   split view controller allowed a higher class of software and when I saw the 55 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:54   16 + turned sideways and you get that split view controller reminded me of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:58   same thing these bigger sizes the apples only doing it with the iPhone six-plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:02   but developers can do it with any size that they want now with the new adaptive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:05   UI that it will allow for a higher class of software but that's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:09   necessitates a larger screen especially for anybody who doesn't have really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:13   really young eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1693">TS</a>]

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00:28:21   and size they show it in one in that WWDC session in the demo at it but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:27   that that 16.9 aspect ratio that is wasteful in some interfaces on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:31   iPhone in landscape mode and the split screen too seems to fix that one problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:35   dad special with the keyboard because there's a minimum height to a usable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:40   keyboard and on the 4.0 in size when you're when you're horizontal it's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:45   least half the screen whereas on into new phones it's not quite you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:50   leaves a lot more room above it because they don't that the keyboard isn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:53   same relative size it's more like the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:56   physical and it is that compromise that you spoke about earlier where it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1736">TS</a>]

00:29:02   bigger to carry around but the iPhone six-plus specifically you turn around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:06   and get that iPad style layout you are gaining productivity out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1746">TS</a>]

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00:29:16   keyboard up in landscape mode horizontal mode too little bit more than a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:21   but it's way less than a half there's way more usable screen real estate above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:27   the keyboard on this the iPhone 5 and five US Navy really claustrophobic with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1767">TS</a>]

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00:29:42   watching videos or playing games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1782">TS</a>]

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00:30:07   issue is so good for those few specific things but the other is much better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:12   the rest yeah and I think it shows for example investor like Vesper doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:16   support landscape as I think David Brent feel the same way and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:21   come to bite us on the ass now because on these bigger phones it really feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:26   weird that an app doesn't support landscape and maybe it's just because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:29   is reviewing the phones over the past week I was doing it a lot just for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:33   sake of seeing what it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   but it it no longer feels silly or some kind of concession to people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:40   particularly big thumbs or something like that it feels like its first class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:45   part of the iPhone interface it will be hinted that I think you with regional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:49   iPhone didn't even let a little most nothing go into landscape but I think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:53   far the video app almost nothing but now even the home screen does on the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1853">TS</a>]

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00:31:02   like the way that the doc is always on your right you have somebody who on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:06   map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:06   is always always wanna stock on the right it feels very natural iPad moves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1866">TS</a>]

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00:31:16   on the left hand side but he left this gonna get a new guest fix it now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1876">TS</a>]

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00:31:38   although I still think it's weird to let us just because it is but one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:42   has a really wide screen and it just seemed to want more vertical pixels I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1902">TS</a>]

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00:32:49   Craig recapitulate WDC as he's done several years in a row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/1969">TS</a>]

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00:38:46   gotta six-plus so what made you go plus I sort of want it works I want to try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:51   because it is so new and they've been big homes on the market before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:55   Apple's take on it I find really interesting I love the idea of the split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:58   view controller in landscape mode and I like the idea of the longer battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:02   because you know especially when we go to conferences or events I'm roaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:05   most the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06   the radios just screaming in draining the battery that and the optical image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:11   stabilization I don't know how big a deal that will be on the camera but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2351">TS</a>]

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00:39:41   point but there is no no doubt in my mind that I wanted to the regular iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:45   6 I think that's the safe at the station is the wrong word I think that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:48   the right choice for most people I think it looks like a lot of people are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:52   for the six plus and I'm not sure whether that's because they really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:56   a fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:56   5.5 inch phone or because they just assume that they are they just feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2396">TS</a>]

00:40:00   every time a new phone they're going to get the most expensive one with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:04   they assume is the flagship I i dont it's one of those things you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:08   Apple reveals more than most companies but there's no way that I expect them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:12   reveal the split between the six in the six plus because I think that's highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:16   competitive data but I would be fascinated to know it and I would also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:21   be fascinated to know how it changes over time because I my hunch is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:27   early adopter crowd who does things like pre-order one of these before they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:33   ever seen one in the Flash you know it which I would be doing if I had even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:37   I hadn't had the review units already I would have been pre-ordering anyway but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:42   let's face it that's sort of a crazy thing to do normal people don't comb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:46   behind you know six seven eight hundred $900 devices that they haven't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:53   putting her hands it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:57   crowds used towards the bigger size because there'd it's it's it's just more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2457">TS</a>]

00:41:02   nerdy that they you know they do more work on the phone it's a little bit less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:07   passive device and more of an active device introduced me two groups of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:12   people on one is people can only have one device and this is a group has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:16   really popular in Southeast Asia and those are usually lower cost large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:20   phones because they have to have a phone they just did the need it to communicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:27   what they want is bigger screen size as possible and then you have people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:30   North America who are they just want something that's a small town but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:33   they can carry around and according to people like ben Meherrin large-size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:37   phones like the Galaxy Note size phones have never sold well in North America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:41   previously it will be interesting to see if that's because there's no Apple phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:44   in that category of its really because that category only appeals to a niche [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:48   market in the industry I didn't mention this in my review is in my notes and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:55   left it out because it seemed I was long enough and it's you know sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2515">TS</a>]

00:42:01   gotta start cutting stuff but i think is going to severely cannibalize sales of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:09   the iPad Mini and I say this is somebody who has used the iPad Mini as as as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:16   personal my only personal iPad for ever since it came out two years ago I even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:20   went with the many that first year when it was not retina and I'd already gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:25   used to the retina display and you know which was a huge trade off but I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:31   that size for what I use an iPad for primarily which is okay I'm done working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:37   for the day in my office here at home now I'm downstairs and I still wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:42   read some stuff you know I still wanted you know do some stuff but I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:47   sitting around the house on the couch armchair something like that I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:52   mini for that I but I think though overall it is this devices too close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2572">TS</a>]

00:43:00   the many and if you if you have it the mini just seems pointless I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:05   very true I think it'll take a while to happen because I think the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:08   six-plus is gonna be supply constraints at least that much higher constraint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:13   that already right now if you order today it's already earlier today but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:17   yesterday I checked and it was Wednesday the 17th it was already quoting three to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:22   four weeks and iPhones 6 was only quoting three or four days so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:30   I'll take a while before there's widespread adoption and and people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:34   get it not all to me like it some of them might decide to go to the smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:37   one but what I'm most curious about is whether it just simply cannibalize is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:41   the iPad Mini and Opera said before they'd rather cowboys and stuff then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:44   somebody else or if people who previously have an iPhone 5 45 s and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:49   iPad Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:50   now moved to an iPhone 6 and iPhone iPad air or maybe in theoretically an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:57   pro 1 day ago from small small to big big instead of getting nothing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:02   think it's really I think it's really gonna put a dent in the iPad Mini sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:06   and I think it might put a dent in iPad sales period at least among people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:10   choose the six plus that it to me it really is you know I forget exactly how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:18   I put in my review but almost as much maybe not quite but almost as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:23   40% more like an iPad nano hypothetical iPod Nano than it is an iPhone plus it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:34   really deter me feels like a new class of device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:40   more than just a big iPhone really does and big part of that is the horizontal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:46   stuff you know the two column layout but even in the Portrait Landscape vertical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:53   landscape it just feels in hand it really to me feel like something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:57   have to use with two hands for the most part which to me is what makes it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:02   different class device than an iPhone it's almost the inverse of what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:06   when the iPad Mini launch because people were used to having a two-handed iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:10   iPad experience in the iPhone iPad Mini was almost a hand and a half the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:15   are so used to using the one hand that iPhone iPhone + iPhone six-plus is two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:20   and a half to two hit a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   the other thing that's curious though and I think would be like it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:25   like a no-brainer and you don't even you know all the time said Dave cannibalized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:30   their own products you know with the iPod Nano just wiping out the iPod iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:39   mini even though the mini was the single most popular consumer electronics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:42   product in the world at the time the iPhone having a full unabashedly iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:48   app that eliminated the need to carry a stand-alone iPod right like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:54   traditional tech company way with you had a popular franchise like iPod would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:59   have been to like make you tether your iPod to your phone somehow or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:04   like that or like the rocker phone like limit the number to artificially limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:08   the number of songs you can put on your iPhone or something like that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11   do anything like that they were like hey it's the bet jobs call it the best iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:14   we've ever made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16   fine scary because it was hugely popular thing in this case they don't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:22   reason to fear it because these things don't don't think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:26   on contract pricing which is not the true price they're they're true price is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:31   like three times higher than the price of an iPad Mini right you get iPad Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:37   starting at 299 right yeah it's one of those things off contract unlocked are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:43   you know $800 devices so if people stop buying an iPad minis for three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:49   hundred dollars so they can buy $900 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   iPhone 6 plusses you know that's sort of like anybody can see the the business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:57   internet that that is great for applicants they move from super low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   margin product to us do a very good margin product but one of things it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:03   always impressed me about Apple as a company is that they've never mistaken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:07   their products for their businesses and we see this in technology so often like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:11   microsoft windows everywhere where they think that they make windows and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:15   really don't Apple never made the mistake they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18   iPods iPod mini they knew they made personal music devices and would involve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:23   those those became the iPhone and now they are not an iPad company they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:28   kill the iPad if they have a better idea they just make these consumer is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:32   devices you can carry around whatever the next version of that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:35   fearless in moving to it as quickly as possible because they'd rather do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:38   before somebody else does and they do you know get rid of some prophecy leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:42   money on the table by not dragging out every single nicolette of every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:45   product but I think when you see how long they been making really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:49   amounts of money that ultimately stay everybody's been a good question and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:54   got asked after my review here in people's heroes realize I had both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:58   phones and they can ask me questions didn't occur to me before at all cuz I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:01   don't use it personally but I got asked by a couple of people on Twitter whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:07   the iPhone six-plus in particular or either of the new ones works with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:12   camera connection kit which is the little lightning thing you plug in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:17   then you can plug in sdcard into an iPad and import photos you take photos with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:23   regular camera stand-alone camera take the sdcard use the camera connection kit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:27   and you instead of putting on a Mac you can put them on an iPad and it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:31   been an iPad only peripheral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   occurred to me to try it I did and it's exactly nothing has changed when as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:39   as you plug the lightning adapter into the either the new iPhones it says this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42   this peripheral or or whatever it's called is not supported on this device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:48   I wonder though if that's an oversight because it seems to me like I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:54   quite understood my camera connection kit didn't work with an iPhone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:58   never been clear to me technically why that's the case you know if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:04   iPhones now have just as much storage as iPads you know who knows maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:10   double the iPad's again but storage shouldn't be the limiting factor you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:13   know should be up to you if you have a 32 or 64 gigabytes of storage what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:17   use it for ya I think that's absolutely true and I hope it isn't oversight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:20   because especially now with a bigger screen phones it makes so much sense if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:23   you're traveling and you have an iPhone 6 plus special you're not going to want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:27   to bring an iPad with you but you might bring a camera with you might bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:30   something else like a DSLR I often take one with me especially when I go out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:34   town for this kind of photography I just don't use an iPhone 4 but the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:38   bring that all in the DSLR still dead that there's no there's no camera play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:42   like there is car play so I need the iPhones do all the cool modern connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:47   stuff yeah you know hopefully it's an oversight because I do I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:51   clear use coming at least two people on Twitter specifically you know and I take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:55   it that they're either avid avid amateur and maybe even professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:58   photographers I didn't ask the details but that they you know go out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:02   field with an iPad and use that as there in the field editing and storage device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:09   and they would rather replace it with this you know for the obvious reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:12   that it's crazy small compared to an iPad integrated show off your portfolio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:18   especially for photographers a lot of them like the iPad because it can carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:21   a lot of your graphics work with the photography worth two min the iPad 66 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:25   possibly great for that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:27   trying to think if there is anything else that I left out of my review that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:31   could use here but I can't think of anything I did why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:35   mention the two and see what you think about them but the two big 12 big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:45   one maybe is not as big but the two negative things I had to say about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:49   apples decisions the first as the clearly the biggest is their decision to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:53   keep the entry level on both phones at 16 gigabytes and so that the split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:58   between 199 299 399 in 299 399 499 for the two phones is 1664 128 instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:09   what to me looks more natural would be double the mall 32 64 128 and I i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:15   like I said in my in my review it almost seems punitive to only to ship one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:20   these with only 16 gigabytes I mean the original iPhone the most popular model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:26   of it and back in 2007 had eight gigabytes so the only double it since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:30   the original eight product generations ago is ridiculous and then I forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:35   about this because I bought my iPhone on day one but Apple like six months after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:39   the original this is the original iPhone the original one the one and only got 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:44   G networking they shipped a 16 gigabyte model of it like in January or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:50   like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:51   remember that the price cut they also increase the storage yeah so in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:56   words the low-end iPhone six-plus today has the same amount of storage as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3116">TS</a>]

00:52:03   high end original iPhone back in 2007 that to me is it's just not hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:10   space on the low end of 2007 MacBook yeah it's really and a keep seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:15   everybody today as they upgrade to iOS aid is running into these problems were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:19   you need like it wants for four gigabytes free two or four and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:24   gigabytes free to do the OS update well how about how are you going to do if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:30   you've got a 16 gigabyte iPhone today how in the world are you gonna have for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:33   gigabyte read next year when I was nine comes out and it's it's worse in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:36   ways because there is there still selling in eight gigabyte iPhone 5 CNA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:40   they're sold out models in India and China and other BRIC countries before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:45   and maybe they'll be fiiiine gigabyte iPhone 5s eventually who knows and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:49   last year you know there was no way I could recommend that phone to anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwP90pw/3169">TS</a>]

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