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00:00:00 ◼   ► fashionably late as always it's pretty good for me it's because you guys do the [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► live staying on a TPC you've got to be on time people are in there in refresh [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► on their website that's not why around time why you want self respect standards [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► discuss people you're a person who is representing for us here you go into Las [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► Vegas Motor happen but there's sort of a West Coast personality trait to discuss [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► move which is also your move is like nine o'clock rolls around or over time [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► were doing and you realize oh I forgot about that and you immediately petition [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► for his teammate delay and then you have a five minute delay after the 15 minute [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► you sound like you're in a good mood [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► sure sure why not week so I finished listening to now probably an episode [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► behind those you guys probably recorded last night for context we are we are [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► recording right now it's Thursday October 23rd you guys probably did in [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► ATP last night but it's not out yet so I might be biased but I did listen to last [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► week's show you talked about 70 review we talk more about it yesterday and [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► yesterday's episode as well so well I'll try not to venture into duplicating the [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► same story territory in 20 min say you know what I want to do you know some [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► people time says things like the thing with all podcasts and you know this is [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► kind of like it's like a first draft of your thoughts are and you just kind of [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► on the spot and you start thinking about it and you start talking about it you [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► know I do I can I ramble in Psych given time to think about that like I think I [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► could say that again [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► better and then obviously the ultimate as you like to write it I can actually [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► figure out what they really think but just so you know anyway [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► duplication I don't mind [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► give me a second chance to get it right totally in in a big picture was thinking [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► about this I don't know why because I guess it's it's just the way you human [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► mind works but somehow ten-point 10 feels like a milestone in like 10 even [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► though it's not you know actually the 11th major version and it's the 12th I [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► guess that you've reviewed because you did the public beta how many how many [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► Mac OS 10 reviews so I did Developer Preview to develop preview 3 developer [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► preview for public beta and and all the release is in there was also one or two [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► thrown in there that weren't really reviews they were just like random like [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► head just went to Macworld and here's some more stuff you might want to know [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► about aqua you know but if you want to go by the releases started ep 22 yeah [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► and I can't remember what I think I played with the BMW right up so I'm [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► thinking about this and you mention this on ATP any money online but there's a [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► chance you're thinking that maybe this last one just published last week maybe [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► last when you gonna do you do next year's yeah you know we can get into [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► that a little bit later but I just thinking in and nice even round 10 I do [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► think podcasts in general in you having been doing one regularly either ATP or [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► choke on critical it seems like forever but it's not like wendover critical [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► stern I think like twenty eleven years but to me there's this huge difference [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► as you know I knew when I got to know each other you know when we first [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► started emailing goes a long time before a match but we are at least as email [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► before down fireball started working at you're still working out some of the [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► story and ATP you gave me my first Campillo BBEdit or whatever the current [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► version without them like it previously had commenced work to buy it from my [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► work but you work to bare bones is a free copy of yet [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► no wonder I lasted their school is giving away the Surefire customers yeah [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► i dont no we have we've known each other since before there is even during [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► fireball and and it's you know our interests are are are common first name [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► aren't you know the fact that we're thinking exactly the same age even 1973 [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► I don't look old but I feel like the universe was dead was destined for us to [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► know each other somehow like it just seems like it seems like no matter what [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► you know how the days of enrolled somewhere you know in the intervening [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► years we're going to get to know each other through the small world back then [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► like the Mac nerds on the web it was just like it was very well using IE five [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► and experimenting with CSS and reading zelman and like an apple doesn't go out [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► of business and before that we're all read and you know we could you talked [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► about last night cast and Mac user macworld like it was such a small world [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► like if we don't if we both got the same Macworld Conference of Bollywood have [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► bumped into that's almost certain it was it was they were small back then it was [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► you know you would inevitably meet everybody you wouldn't have that yeah [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► you did you see the same people year after year it's not like to be deputy [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► see where it now it's like so crazy and you go and it takes some of your best [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► friends you don't even see them here like hadn't even even run into someone [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► so and it's just a very different but as someone who's always been a huge fan of [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► your work at ours these these massive book-length reviews it's such a profound [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► change now that your podcasting because they used to be that John Syracuse says [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► as a brand was something you got sporadically almost like on an annual [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► schedule yet to wait a year in between but when you did it would be like a [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► massive mainline doze [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► how different it is now that you have a weekly outlet and we all get plenty of [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► John it's so different it's hard to imagine going back to that I had for a [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► while and ours when they're doing like staff blogs or whatever there was a [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► period and I'm always surprised when I go back and look at it like there was a [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► period where I was blogging if you want to call it that pretty regularly on the [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► staff blogs like I'm amazed at the number of things I wrote there I forget [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► what I even relate it's like you know it's not that the volume that you put [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► out a regular basis but you know how it is but you can't remember what the hell [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► you wrote and I of course I remember all my reviews caused a big punctuated [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► things and there's a few special stories in between there and retrospectives and [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► I did like a game review and all sorts of crap you know but I can remember [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► those but then there was just like at one point I was doing one or two pagers [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► every couple of weeks for ours and I look back on that body work and I am [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► happy with an ad like it is just like it was never there was there was no [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► official or foul it wasn't what I do now it's just sort of ramble on a weekly [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► basis we're just off the cuff or whatever it certainly wasn't the big [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► long lead-up to a giant [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► you know review it was kind of in between he and I guess podcasting is [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► totally filled that role now because i dont have you know Twitter and plus [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► podcasting have destroyed my ability to block not that I had much of an ability [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► to do it to begin with but I may get back into it [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► views and I'm not sure you're meant for it I don't know I feel like you've found [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► your thing that is more it's it's like I always say that to me and everything in [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► life in general rule it's the extremes where things are most interesting to me [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► like a daring fireball the best posts are mailinglist 12 I think of just one [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► word dad or two words you know good luck with that or something like that or the [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► big long one thousand multi thousand-word its when I have a post [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► that like [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► 300 words then I know I'm in trouble that i've you know either should be able [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► to make this point much more succinctly or being lazy and I need to go deeper [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► and I feel like with you it's you know you've found your your your I'm not [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► going to spend a lot of time on this poor man it podcasting [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► you'd like to spend all the time was just five more like less prepared it's [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► like more more thinking out loud and you know going back and forth on the blog [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► format like if I didn't have an actual their regular day job took my time I [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► think the thing I like about that is not so much that any individual posts [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► anything special but you sort of build up a body of work with like little [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► reference points like a very frequently I find myself thinking back to you know [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► I wish I had something that I could point to about this and podcasting as [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► you know it's harder to like it's hard to ask people to go go back to this [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► thing and I get to give them a time stamping out to look up and find out [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► where everything is well as I can just point to a blog post I talked about this [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► specific issue in a one pager and you can get my take on it there and [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► individual one pagers not a big deal 12 pages but you know I have few of them on [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► hypercritical echo I i refer to them frequently and a lot of times I wish the [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► things I had said and worked out on the podcast let me do the same thing as far [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► as Marco the pentium either write about it for us and talk about a podcast talk [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► about enforcing that becomes a post your website and I find it frustrating that I [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► can't point like the podcast or so invisible like they're they're femoral [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► and you can't like a point people into the mood seems like asking more than [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► just having them read a paragraph or two on a web page that you send them so I do [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► wish I had more time to blog is available I don't like I'm not forcing [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► myself to do it or whatever but I think a lot of the reason that you know this [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► kind of weather blog terrible offense that the arizona racist are coming out [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► yearly at first it was like they would just be quiet period where I wouldn't [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► write anything but I'm just doing a review in a quiet period expanded to [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► fill the whole year and so it's like well I guess on doing [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► Twitter and worry about writing reviews yea well said how do you have any word [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► was your your review has to this last is like the same about post as you follow [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► me on Twitter it's like this I think this was last year I can look at the [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► number its like 26 K 27 case I'm like that is that a hypocritical yeah as I [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► dot Coco com guy wants too much money do we get for the best but we got the taiko [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► somehow it read like somehow this top-level domains are such a weird thing [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► because the whole thing is so gross and never should have been exposed to end [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► users anyway [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► filename extensions but they've become part of the world we live in [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► dot com is just invisible right at somebody has whatever dot com and you [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► just it's like the the nothing to me even though getting a dot com is [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► incredible [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► difficult cuz everything and everything was taken by the end of the nineties in [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► the intervening years something about . Co which is people who don't know it's [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► the nation columbia's top-level domain it reads like dot com and I you notice [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► it how is not always you know but it has that same effect of like you just [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► accepted that's why I can't even remember that hypocritical guilty it's [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► kind of like a in our web 2.0 we like Flickr really bossy are kind of like [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► comedy Bosque am kind of twee sort of precious merger mania really I just got [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► it because you know their extensions far worse [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► died us' you know . business but plumbing whatever they're so bad I just [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► can't believe some of those anyway if you went to the site you'll see it at [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► this it's my like the format of Denver the past three years it's like a [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► template and I just changed numbers like mad libs and at the bottom of steps so [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► 27,000 word what's the I think that it's like the average size of a novel is [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► somewhere around sixty thousand words so it's truly book length and the weird [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► thing to me is that they have you settled in around this 2527 case size [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► for the past like three or four not through any time just over to my own [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► business that's how it worked out you know it's you know like that about how [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► much work they can do on an annual basis on Mac OS 10 and it's more like that's [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► how much I feel like I can or should write because there's more I could write [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► about it every time I always ran outta time and I would like to hold giant [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► sections but I was like I prioritize them I said well yeah I'm interested in [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► that and I think I could write another few thousand words about it but would [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► devalue it adds to the review and the interested as you be worth the time I [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► put in you know and how much time I got schedule is because we only have so much [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► time to it it still kind of compresses at the end there's only so much you can [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► write about when things don't work and they're in the broken in a bit and Apple [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► has made final decisions he got a you know the final bit up to come down and [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► then you have to scramble [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► so if we added them all together and I know that the sizes are different for [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► some of the old ones but it's it's about 15 reviews a different talking to the [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► 11th number version and you did said you did D P two D P 34 so it's fourteen or [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► fifteen it's an enormous body of work and really truly is and I know that it's [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► not one single piece of war that if you read them all back to back there's some [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► sort of repetition that would be going on because they follow a certain formula [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► but I do think I think it's such as it's such an interesting testimony to have [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► like twenty years from now and take over that they'll be out there for them to to [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► look at and remember you know where things are that's what I hope people [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► like to thank for young people give it to him they already done to hear about a [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► look back on our great works and tremble and how often would we refer to a [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► similarly detailed review of the system to from 1985 you know the Apple to [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► anything like that are you know somewhere somebody would need it I think [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► this bill for me those of ever go back and look at those levels they just cant [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► standard just like it's terrible I hope you feel the same way but I really [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► writing I'm like holy cow this has been like she's always like I guess I knew I [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► liked it was it was certainly more casual back then and I was aware US [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► Ryder and the combination of the two is just and really I don't know like you [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► didn't know what was important than one was in the things I focused on it just [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► seemed inane have a lot of difficult that a lot of people are going to go [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► back and collect all these together into one big thing the most painful part of [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► it would be that if I was to do that and you start reading you start reading and [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► stuff are in 1999 think is not good just not good [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► I mean I hope I we feel that way I kind of you know I kind of feel like you know [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► he gets to get to a certain point and I just think everything alright described [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► as soon as I write it and you know I just make as good as they can in the [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► time allotted to move on but it's like programming like if i dont have a look [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► back at the code I'm writing this year like 10 years from now I don't look back [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► at the GoToMeeting this year and think it sucks I have done I can totally see [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► that I look back I did learn this and there's a get it wrong [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► think it was one of the great titans of modern computer science see their [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► current again or rich you're one of those Bell Labs guys who said something [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► about the debugging is twice as hard as programming and so if you write code as [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► cleverly as you possibly can [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► you'll never be able to debug it because you need you need an intellect twice as [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► great you need you need to write your own code like a half wit so that when [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► you do by guitar when you ride for me personally when I return to it that I [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► can understand what the hell's going on I know that saying I understand the [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► sentiment behind it but the logic in the same makes no sense and it's mostly BS [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► and the details but in broad strokes trying to say the idea is that you know [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► later you'll come back to your own code and not understand it and that is [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► entirely true and so what he's trying to say is to mitigate that don't try to go [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► make your life harder by doing things that are difficult to understand even [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► now when you're in the midst of totally informed my use of comments is my [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► comment I used to clear of course cuz I was a teenager and early twenties and so [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► of course I didn't want to write any comments at all and I only did it [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► because when I might see as professors had to view comments are automatically [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► lose like 10 points [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► so I just commenter stupid you know the the smartest teenagers comments [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► restating logic of his life had one done exactly where as the light that went on [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► even I don't write much code anymore but the light down on eventually was [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► comments are like time travel you're talking to your future self who is [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► utterly confused as to why you would do this seeming there's this doesn't seem [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► like it's necessary to tell your future self here's why you're doing it why you [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► want to keep it and it's made my code at least for my own self maintenance it [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► made it all the difference in the world [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► yeah there's a couple days like the early phase several things I don't need [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► comments cuz I'm writing this now and I understand or not is that in the future [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► in the second phase is realizing that's not the case and you start trying to [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► come to be known about it could come in sorry and I think the third phase is [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► finally realizing that if you write the code in a sensible way you only need [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► comments on the tricky part you should minimize that and when you do need to [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► comment on the tricky part you know how to write it in a way that will be [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► illuminating rather than either the tricky part where you're doing something [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► pretty clever and that it's you know a month goes by it's gonna be out of your [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► head how you pull that off cos you're in the zone or for me a lot of times it's [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► the you're working around something stupid and the workaround makes if you [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► didn't know about the stupid thing that work around looks like it's what gets us [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► why would you ever do this is done just you know don't do that and running for [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► your future self easier than running for other people in your organization where [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► your programming has lots of other programmers at the very least when [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► you're ready for yourself you can you you can retrace your steps and you will [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► arrive at the same conclusion again but other people don't do that because they [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► react differently to the same stimulus basically so far other people were you [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► trying to do is you have to put the wise but also like what is the broader [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► context as whole thing what is even going on here are there any assumptions [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► that are understated because you assume there [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► their obvious to everybody but won't be obvious to someone new year from now [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► yeah there's like writing comment is basically just basically writing like [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► it's the same you have to communicate to people in plain language but they reduce [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► ambiguity like two different to different goals different purposes [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► different audience but it is writing and that's why programmers are so bad at it [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► because their skill sets tend to not cluster frequently per people who are [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► happy and comfortable programming are not happy and comfortable writing prose [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► yeah I guess it's true that a lot of times and I know I know where the where [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► the intersection of the blaze the programmers who who are good writer like [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► brett Arends a great example rich so yeah i know i know i mean do we all need [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► to read their blog is another great example man when he doesn't write much [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► but when he does it is so sick cent and to the point and it's it's exquisite [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► like I I often refer back I have a copy of the BBEdit to point to manual the [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► first public version of BB at it and it's just like a model of clarity is [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► such a good piece of technical writing did he write that 10 parts in there goes [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► the couple of other credits but there's a little what would you call blog post [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► now it's sort of like why does BBEdit exist whyyy on the Mac would you wanna [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► programmers text editor who would ever wanted it more than 32 Kb [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► it's more of its more like a personal mission statement for BB it and it's [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► just terrific I said actually see if he'd let me see if I can re-run it or [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► something I think it'd be an interesting especially now that be at 11 so maybe I [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► should see about getting in on the internet as I think it stands up lo [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► these many operating systems later he writes if you met him you can't help but [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► read it because they're such a percent the mannerisms and the pacing the way he [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► would say those things that comes through [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► I just saw somebody tweet tweet the other day at a time it was to both me [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► and you but to a couple of this where they relate now that we all have podcast [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► they can't help but read everything we right in our own voices and I was here [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► that and and I it's kind of nice was it means a lot of our pockets but also kind [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► of cringe because I can't do writing is very good to be better at the house but [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► i wanna way smarter when I write because I got all this runaway and I could you [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► know speaking who knows what the hell comes out but writing I got my chance [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► right and so it's almost a shame that they know you know stumbling it's that [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► are behind the words like riding a secret weapon I got all the time in the [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► world to figure out where this is going to be and is no wasted words in those [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► stupid idealism and obviously again with longer views at a certain point it's [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► gotta be like that that's that's the thing about this phone reviews all the [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► stuff like early on and still to this day of MIS 10 reviews I'm a slave to [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► getting out whatever idea it is in my head I have a point to make something to [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► say about something and I have like 17 points to make and 17 things to say [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► about it I want to get them all out and I sacrifice the quality of the writing [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► many times because I'm like this this could be said more elegantly in a [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► different way but it wouldn't have this one extra little bit of new on tonight I [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► talk to myself like what do you care that one like this point is sufficient [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► you don't need to go into this other details like no I wanted and so I make [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► some awkward sense and I put that other point in there and it's why I hate [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► myself for doing it but a lot of times it's like an overriding thing is say [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► what I want to say and secondarily try to say it in a reasonable way and that's [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► not just another way to make good writing but that's a lot of times when I [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► do my last interview [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► let's take a break I'm going to thank our first sponsor back for a second time [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► it's a good friends at Casper I get my member from [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► it was the one with Chuck Berry but caspar was a sponsor and had a great [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► response craziest idea i i when I first heard this crazy state in Orem it you go [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► online at high quality mattresses [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► you put on your been really really good prices [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► seems like a crazy thing to buy on the internet but in terms [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► eventually we're gonna buy everything on the internet looking to buy cars on the [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► internet you go there they have it it's two technologies they call it just the [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► right thing just the right balance it's two different technologies latex phone [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► and memory that they put together a special combination that they've done [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► just right you don't have to sit there there's not a whole bunch of different [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► things you have to choose from [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► they they did it for us there in the mattress experts they've designed a [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► really good mattress I've had regular I've tried and tried to regular memory [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► foam mattress before a knife fight random way to like the way that they [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► they make an indentation perfect for your body it feels like I'm making a [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► crime scene or something [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► their mattresses in like that always just enough that memory stuff that it's [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► comfortable but it doesn't you don't feel like you're sinking into it it's [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► it's crazy did you get one of these John Deere did was it casey you got a free [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► case ago we were thinking of getting one just because we know so they sent me one [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► is really do in this country show they send one and it so how does a mattress [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► show up well it shows up in like a little dorm room fridge style box very [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► small you can't believe it but it's because it's like to kind of phone they [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► like vacuum sealed the mattress and it ships in what is still decidedly a very [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► large package it is way smaller than a a mattress so put it in the room here [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► gotta sleep in it then open the box they've got instructions that tell you [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► exactly how to do it and let it expand [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► but it works it is absolutely amazing it works it feels a great mattress I really [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► liked it and the prices are so much less than the prices you pay for mattresses [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► in the real world it's ridiculous because the whole mattress industry is [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► it's just that it's just like the word partner story all over again where it's [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► like like a cartel that controls the whole industry they deliberately make it [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► very very difficult to comparison shop cross stores because each store even if [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► its from the same brand like sealy [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► havoc six different Seeley's the next door you go to has six different [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► ceilings and they all have different names even though they're technically [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► the same mattress because they do this to make it really hard for you to [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► comparison shop and know whether you're paying a good price [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► casper cuts out all that crap and just so you great mattresses good price [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► typical price for a new mattress is well over 1500 bucks casper mattresses cost [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► between five hundred thats the twin size and 954 a king size mattress 950 bucks [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► under $1000 for a top tier mattress you save hundreds and hundreds of dollars [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► and it's completely risk-free they have free delivery and returns within a [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► hundred day period so three months to sleep on the thing and if you don't like [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► it they'll pay to send it back no idea how that works I kept mine quite sure [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► how old is sending the full size mattress works but they take care of it [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► for you and I believe it risk-free own last point one of me died in this is [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► great [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► made in America made america mattresses so where do you go to find out more [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► apparently a whole bunch of guys bomb addresses the last time sponsorship ran [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► toll encouraged you need a new mattress check them out [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► go to www.cancer.org or sleep dot com casper sleep dot com [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► / talk show I use that code that talk show code and you will save 50 bucks off [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► their already low prices on any matters that you buy so you'll save an extra 50 [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► bucks and they're going to donate 50 bucks to a charity of my choice and [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► that's how do the same charity I did the last time the food allergy and fights at [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► work that my son and wife raised a lot of money for food allergies or get great [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► charity that's all on them [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► great mattresses go check them out at Casper sleep dot com slash talk-show [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► mattresses on the internet what the hell next year and also are a team already [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► buying cars yeah I guess you can buy new cars I think so [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► speaking a big box as shown up my arm action of today so I started i [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► pre-ordered it [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► day one so must have been a week ago of course I gotta build order and it said [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► three to five days and had a target ship date of October 24th to 28th and I think [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► it was a wide range because it was over a weekend I did like 30 bucks for [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► expedited shipping so I checked last night before I went to bed and it said [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► you know I got a notice that my iMac was ready and it was in China and then at [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► ten o'clock in the morning today my doorbell rang and it was here so from [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► what I went to bed last night it was in China and it and I am it was at my door [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► which is crazy magic of air traffic can't help but think that when they told [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► me it was in China it was already really over the pacific but still it's kind of [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► a kind of a standard and a lot of people may get their pictures of their boxes [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► arriving so first batch came quickly [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► everybody wants to know i guess i talked about here's a review eventually but i [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► dont by Max real and then you even mentioned it on ATP like I just just now [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► replaced 2008 MacBook Pro that I'd upgraded to an SSD at some point which [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► couple more years of life but it was really really aging and my desktop [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► display as you know it's it's it's like a 2004 20 inch Cinema Display [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► Syrian 04 as reckless as I am buying a new iPhone every single year the [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► opposite with Max I like to get one accident and then use it until it until [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► it ridiculous field now you gonna find out if you have any glaring their room [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► because I'm looking at the 23 interaction and that it's Matt and you [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► know what you don't know if you have any series Claire issues if you've been [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► using a matte screen for the past hour many years you'll find out now you see [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► your face when you sit down in front of your an iMac that was that's one of [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► those things where I think they've gotten better at it and I know that it's [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► it's the sort of thing you can write about them they can advertise be really [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► have to see it the anti glare at the thing that they've done with the new [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► iPad there is pretty interesting but i wanna know why didn't he to the new iMac [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► 20 knots not laminated I think think the reason that in laminated I assume is [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► maybe it's just hard to eliminate some of that but you know you know how did [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► you take the glass often in the screen is behind it and they landed them [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► together I guess you would like to take the screen off when you opened it up and [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► then you have to like disconnect the cables or whatever interests maybe you [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► make it weird to disassemble I don't know but anyway laminated together and [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► so you've got that air gap which increases the glare and also that's [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► where the dust gets caught you ever had to bring those are two of two to pet [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► peeves that you and I share together I do not like glare on light displays and [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► I do not like she noise so I'm pretty pretty pretty satisfied I'm pretty sure [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► that it's gonna be I didn't take it out of the box I had too much to do today so [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► I did I was ready for it but I'm pretty excited that it's not going to be noisy [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► and a little worried about that [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► I'm kind of glad to have the Apple 24 inch display and working on the first [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► one that was kind of like the iMac touchscreen works that looks like [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► Thunderbolt Display by 24 inches and it was a predates it but it's not the same [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► thing air gap and the screen in an office with you know fluorescent lights [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► and also had things in there are reflection things but the compared to [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► all my coworkers displays which like these delicate ViewSonic things are even [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► like their their laptop displays and stuff just the brightness and viewing [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► angle like that they're ridiculous brightness of these things have the LED [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► backlit screens you never crack on to the brain was a regular house but in an [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► office setting we're just you know the fluorescent lights are everywhere is [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► also super bright the ability to crack your screen up can really power through [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► any other sort of Glarus just it's so much easier to see thanks to my screen [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► than anybody around a look at their screens and you can't see it as a bad [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► because everything is so damn in money so there are advantages to this this [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► type of design Mauritius crystal-clear visa glass and a super bright screen [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► behind it that worst case you can just crank it up against my wife has a [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► wonderful display right behind me and I look at all the time and I know what's [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► really nice too so I'm gonna be ok with the screen like the one you've gotten [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► your iMac yeah the thing that makes him feel pretty good about it is that ok [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► with the glare on the current MacBooks [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► at least the rain and one that I have now does it does a laminated to there [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► are maybe they are I think they are thinking because I think that my first [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► impression when they first had the red-nosed 15 actually back at WNBC [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► overlooking Jason Stolz whatever it was like the colors were like up on the [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► surface of the same type of thing he got with the iPhone 4 and yeah I guess he [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► may be that they keep the whole lid so then seriously seriously well I still [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► feel like that I i remember when it was sort of a many years it was a maybe [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► minds around three or four year period where there is like this great divide [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► between for laptops at least glossy and matte displays and Apple stuck with Matt [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► and hope PC industry went glossy and every time I go to Starbucks or [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► something and they'd see people using Windows PCs just be flabbergasted at how [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► like reflective their displays are and then Apple started offering it was like [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► a choice i know i three years were you when you buy a new era I guess it wasn't [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► even my books yet but you get a choice between man and that's one of the things [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► I never hesitated for a second it was of course I want that I think he remembers [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► I know what the PC people did for their glossy ones they didn't do what Apple [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► has come to you now I just have a clear piece of glass on top of LCD screen I [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► think maybe Apple's first glossy screens but certainly also the PC glossy screen [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► sort of kicked off a thing for plastic but it was like super shiny plastic a [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► novice polycarbonate or something like that but it had kind of like a sticky [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► wavy kind of look instead of what you get from piece of glass because you know [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► dead flat and like stiff you know i mean and that made the screens looking not [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► only shiny but also cheap and I seem to recall Apple's first class he just was [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► being like that too and that's why I was like who in the world would ever want [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► that just looks awful when they switch to the big glass big heavy piece of [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► glass and metal is heavier and it was a great nap is huge air gap at least that [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► look a little bit classier to me like more diverse a more honest materials in [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► 01950 yellow glass we're gonna do that for years that that's settled things [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► down a little bit but but even then and a lot of people who got the matte [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► display just just for reflection reasons yeah I totally did [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► so funny though that's is that that used to be at them and I'm still in awe [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► because my display my desktop displays so ancient and it's literally 10 years [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► old in 2004 soon after its like a relic I have to say it was money well spent I [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► don't know you stayed with 20 and resolution probably die i feel myself [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► just I wish I could get out of this 23 inch 1920 by 1200 I that's just like [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► barely big enough to contain me but I feel boxed in though I always have time [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► but eventually I got used to it and you know that your pared down like your work [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► environment where you like you don't have as many windows open as you would [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► normally having just come to try to go into like I'm just gonna have one [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► central window is text editor and then off to the side of my web browser the [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► budget ads and that's you know effectively with a 20 inch display it's [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► a lot like using just a supersized like the lunch tray MacBook you know the 730 [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► likely to fullscreen fullscreen but for the most part everything I'm working on [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► this just in a stack of windows and after command tab between them [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► does not you know it's not be enough to do a lot of side by side so I'm really [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► looking for a 27 inch and now I have over the many years honed by sort of [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► like layering and positioning system for my windows which other people look at [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► can make heads or tails but when I am constrained that I start have a lot of [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► Windows I start running out of places places to the corners to poke out like [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► that's you know the system is like a weird I got things in corners and window [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► size and shape so that I can find a clickable region that's just the way I [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► work with Macs you know starting from the eighties but when I just have too [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► many damn windows I run out of places to have quick stop in if I ever find myself [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► a new command failed command tabacum until the within [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► to cycle through the windows I feel like I've been defeated by the lack of space [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► so I really I really can't wait to get a 27 inch equivalent to appoint resolution [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► screen so I can review it and I literally didn't even take it out of the [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► box but having seen it firsthand last week and I know a lot and then the [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► stores now too and I've seen a lot of people who were at least going in to [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► look at them it's it's gorgeous it really is it's it's why I don't rush [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► into replacing my desk at least six year old computer and a 10 year old display [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► but it's I didn't hesitate to buy one and I know you guys talked on ATP that [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► it too risky because you know there's a lot of times first-generation stuff from [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► Apple has kinks to be worked out [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► image retention of course is a huge question mark at this point I think [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► jason said just now did Marcos little immature tension tests and said his iMac [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► which you got any it does well pass with flying look so same seems clear on that [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► front unless they're using to manufacturers and he got the bride and [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► that's that's possible because snails is a review unit and they you know I don't [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► know for a fact that I'm 99.99% sure that they sanity check the reviews [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► they're they're not like factory sealed you know that there's a white glove [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► guide to make sure that everything that this is a good you know there's no user [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► and factory sealed cuz I just got for the first time I got a much longer Apple [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► hardware further yosemite review it and it looked pretty darn fact they rapin [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► backup how can you do that like that was that was a game again as a novelty for [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► me to be getting review hardware and part of the game I played with I'm going [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► to wrap these things so they look like I didn't take them out so I saved all the [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► standard put it back on and putting it back on his super hard like you can't [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► get a lined up right now can you wrap a gift [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► Korea it doesn't look good looks when I wrapped gift it looks like that it does [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► not look like a nice even matter how much I try I can't I know how to do it [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► now and have reached the age where I know what I mean to do to make it look [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► good but at a certain point is don't care anymore like you [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► comes down to having the right length overhangs no amount of skill unfolding [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► is going to save you and you realize you know how to write overhangs and you try [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► to like trim it to make their own then that just get the ragged edge just like [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► you know it's crystal fullbright get there comes a point where you set out to [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► make it like I wanna rap on as good as my wife can rap but eventually I run [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► into that situation and I think wait this is just gonna be garbage 10 seconds [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► after I give it a try to think that I think about what you're doing it [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► especially you having something and yes I can give your wife and your nose we [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► even doing here but like you just got its gonna plow had bravely rapid in the [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► received may remember wrapping things in the funny pages that come with your kids [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► nobody does that anymore probably going to be late newsprint all over everything [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► and was like who does I guess it was just like our parents saving money on [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► wrapping paper or maybe you know maybe a little bit of column a saving money in a [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► little bit column B we're all of a sudden it's Saturday forgot who I forgot [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► it was Saturday morning and the party is it new [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► and you remember you have the gift you bought the gifted you know target the [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► other day but you didn't buy wrapping paper cuz you thought you start a closet [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► full of it and you don't and just used the Sunday paper that was definitely I [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► would I would say when I was a kid like lower grade school I would say probably [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► about a third of all the gifts that I got were wrapped in the Sunday paper [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► Sunday well I wonder how long have to go with the school books being wrapped in [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► grocery bags oh I remember that covers right so I think they still do that but [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► now the big thing in the you know the fancy stores like Whole Foods and [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► everything is to have a cloth reusable cloth bags you know make all that paper [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► waste so I wonder how long those things will be around yea long can you get a [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► paper bag Whole Foods gives out paper bags yet if you don't if you don't have [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► the little cloth bags you forgot to put them in the trunk of her car they give [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► you a dirty look in the paper bag they had like a passive aggressive oh you [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► didn't bring back a few not care about the Penguins who gonna choke to death on [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► the bed and stuff and well enjoy your $5 avocadoes organic I've heard the dishes [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► I've heard that if you eat organic produce you cannot get people there [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► finally is an advantage there's a reason to buy the $0.89 a pound organic bananas [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► instead of the 69 cents a pound [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► regular bananas because it'll it'll immunize people they come with organic [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► for flyers invade your house if you leave their absolutely adorable fruit [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► flies [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► I'm as as take a break do a second sponsor because it seems like a good [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► time to break but I will go back I wanted to talk about next last week's [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► event a little bit too before we get into yosemite but i wanna take a break [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► and think one of my love all sponsors but I'd love I love this one little more [TS]

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00:43:46 ◼   ► filled up might take awhile for that first backup to get everything out there [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► depending on your internet connection but just wait it will and one today is [TS]

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00:44:15 ◼   ► catastrophe it and you lose your whole start-up drive and you don't have a [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► backup local you don't have a local backup [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► gonna get your whole you know one terabyte drive back what you can just [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► tell them they'll put it on a USB Drive for you and then FedEx the drive to you [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► and then ding-dong UPS guy is there and you've got a hard drive from them with [TS]

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00:45:14 ◼   ► just do it so my texture works great with you say so [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► last week's event I thought it was [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► it was a little weird and I touched on this with Phil Schiller was he flat or [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► not and i got a bunch of emails and tweets from people what's up with phil [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► was he like you know something wrong with it seemed distracted as a yes I [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► didn't notice it during the event I thought phil was just sort of downbeat [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► Phil not you know just like this is not a big deal file and then I think it was [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► a very deliberate I think it was sort of low key maybe I would say I wouldn't [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► distract well but he is always like that to some degree right he's the pace of [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► his speaking and his presenting sounds always a little bit weird like that [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► maybe he was up next to people who are doing more fake enthusiasm about things [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► or being but I just occasionally does seem distracted by stuff sometimes I [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► feel like he's distracted thinking about the next thing he's gonna present even [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► though he's been doing this for so long [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► like these think about the next 20 percent trying to remember the things [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► he's gonna do in the demo or whatever and he'll get to get inside his own head [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► about that and like forget to fake enthusiasm about something that has seen [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► a million times before but did not stick out to me much like I mostly just as [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► well as a low-key guy and this is the way he presents seen it so much they [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► kind of fades into the wall paper but I i always occasionally see kind of be [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► distracted from aid maybe he was afraid that if the timing of things this before [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► or after their road trip type thing now that the demo the guys who like that a [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► typo during his thing and they fixed it and post remember that oh yeah yeah yeah [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► who made the video video editing thing I forget if it was after that it's like he [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► could have been thinking about that but he's like her so many times had to be [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► scrapped the standoff you know what it was before that I don't have a splash [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► yeah what was the deal with that I didn't know that they fix it in post I [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► remember I didn't notice it during the event let people pointed out was it was [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► it a feathery demo agreed mistyped road trip now it was it was like people who a [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► third party software developers who they are and they were they were not native [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► English right here is the guy who is reserved running the demo machine he [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► fell victim to auto correct that I think it got a corrected utah Ute our road [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► trip with its road trip and the guy shook his head and was pissed on himself [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► and auto correct and then just cloud for the demo but then in post they have [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► somebody could you do this and post day risk free screen capture the screen [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► image and froze his image of himself before he does the handshake and then [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► transitioned mmm post head shake it was pretty good at it like this side by side [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► to see the person you see the screen and it made it seem like that did not happen [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► or just fine as pretty cool it is shows you that Apple sweat the details are ya [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► know like never heard it so many times and you could see the AutoCorrect bubble [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► like we all know I don't have space bar is going to complete two is my favorite [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► little detail I am actually it's like to to get the iPad review had to shelve it [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► but I still wanna write my during fireball piece on my thoughts on last [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► week's event and my favorite little thing and I'm not surprised you won't be [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► surprised but I had to double check is that image that they used a couple of [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► times showing you know a watch phone and iPad and MacBook and iMac like that [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► I thought clearly like an homage to like that evolution image even out story goes [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► the other way where the Mac was first other products you know came later sort [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► of left-to-right newest oldest but I thought that was really telling image I [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► thought it was especially telling daddy used it multiple times early on with Kim [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► Cogan in like in the wrap up but I checked and of course they made two [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► versions of it the first one was with an iPad their original iPad air and the one [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► they use at the end when Tim Cook closed the iPad is thinner and its know yet if [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► you look at them side-by-side it very noticeable that they made a second [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► version with a thinner iPad even though they're only showing them from the side [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► and it at any given moment was it was impossible to tell which generation iPad [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► was because it was from the side that they made the iPad Mac external case [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► proportions change at all with the right now [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► yeah I can't tell cuz that's the one I would look for a replacement but if [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► they're exactly the same appeals to tell from the side yeah if they had slimmed [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► down or maybe you can tell from that angle that they're obviously very proud [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► of it though when it first came up I read it just like I knew they weren't [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► trying to make a text book but it kinda look like Hello had been on my mind that [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► weird social network things like it's kinda looks like it could be letters [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► they could spell things out without if they want to but that's not what it was [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► the evolution thing is much closer analogy because it's from you have a [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► hunch thing to the standing up things got a bit it's all swollen right even if [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► its yeah yeah i'm looking at them now side-by-side it did change the lighting [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► on the iMac in the between the two slides and it makes the day after one it [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► looks a little thinner but I looks to me that it's just that they change the [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► lighting [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► and there's less of it and show more of it and shadow this is a different [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► product like a different products like you know when they when they brought up [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► the new iMac take a shot of it the lighting wasn't the same as when they [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► had that older iMac ticket out of it so it is a bit like I think you look too [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► few people talking about this I mostly agree with whatever personal link to [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► there was talk saying like this is cute and all but doesn't communicate to [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► people who aren't already on board much of anything because regular people might [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► not even understand what they're looking at it along with devices which like [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► Apple was clearly excited and proud of it and we Apple's always nerds thought [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► it was clever and interesting and and because you had to find some interesting [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► way to show these things that just like here's all the screens of black borders [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► at Apple makes they come in different sizes right and you know one of them has [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► a little stand at the end so coming up with new and interesting ways to [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► photograph Apple's product line is a challenge that is mostly irrelevant to [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► people who either work at Apple heard in following up for a long time whereas if [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► you throw that image up in front of regular people I'm not sure how well [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► will communicate anything I read to them at all but I you know the audience for [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► this Apple event and Iran is not the iPhone event this is the the lesser [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► event in was in a town hall small room mostly of interest to Apple followers I [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► was appropriate venue for that image but not sure how I read it that's why I [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► found adherence to parts to the to the Apple presentations not necessary to [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► have but there's two types of messages they seek to convey some are for the [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► mass market and they sometimes even showed that actual commercials that [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► they're going to put on real TV show the commercial right there so it's exactly [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► what they're going to be pushing in their marketing to hundreds of millions [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► of real people through advertising but then other parts are the as close as [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► Apple will get to inside baseball and that's meant for like us in the media [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► who are then going to [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► you know it's it's it's like they're playing a bank shot they're trying to [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► get us to understand them so that when we write about them to the mass market [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► that we're going to have it right that we we see what Apple is going to [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► emphasize the parts that they think will tickle are the fancy of of the Apple [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► fans like they're going to show you the video but the manufacturing process and [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► emphasize the beauty of one particular physical teacher so that in the hopes [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► that when you write your review that feature the you might have overlooked [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► you'll say well I just showed the whole five-minute video of a factory in [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► johnnie obvious why we're all talking about it and some of its more prominent [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► your mind this is basically basic you know talking to the press type of things [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► but they will never gonna show that video the Mac Pro factory during you [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► don't care about the necro doll period and certainly not how or where it's [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► built all the things that had about the unibody or whatever like think it's a [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► it's unibody and they can give the thing out or whatever they can to show that [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► you know computer controlled milling machines with the water going over them [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► and just talk about it forever like when they came out with the MacBook Air and [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► then see the subsequent universities they really hammer on that to try to get [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► the message across to the press who would then get the message across that [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► hey I know you understand what unibody is and I know you're gonna see it's one [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► piece involved but it actually makes a difference and it's a big deal and [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► that's that's the bank shot five-minute video on CNC milling machines and that [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► totally translates to a little bit extra emphasis when the first unibody process [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► in the consumer-facing product reviews [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► another that I just love this image and I think another after somebody compared [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► it somebody on Twitter compared it to one from one of the recent events that [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► Microsoft had [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► the surface but probably the surface pro 3 event and they had a table lined up in [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► their hands on area with Nokia phones and surface Pro's and some of them on [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► the table and some of them in a laptop stand and desktop computers and laptop [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► computers you know up to you know whatever the HP equivalent of an iMac is [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► all of them running exactly the same start screen you know this blue blue [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► colored whatever they do whatever they rename Metro interface you know and that [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► what a country you know it's it's a philosophical contrast we're in a [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► Microsoft misdirection where you get the exact same interface across phone from [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► phone to you know 30 inch desktop display and Apple you know when and as [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► you know reiterated this year you know that each of these devices gets an [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► interface that is just for that form factor in the increase you know making [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► them very different and you know we can't even talk about it when we get [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► into yosemite review the way that your sanity is clearly inspired by the [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► direction that iOS 7 wind but it's it even at a glance just if you've been [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► tuned out for six months and still haven't even seen yosemite and you took [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► a look at it right now you wouldn't think so they copied Iowa 7 that it's [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► the exact same thing it's different it's a family resemblance but it's like a [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► brother or cousin it is not an identical twin exactly [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► simply not twins and I think showing these devices in this promotional image [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► for us we don't even see the display is in a in a strange way emphasizes that [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► the that way you would send the displays are very different across also thing and [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► I think this is always interesting to me and I tried to think about it [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► is what are the things that Apple is trying to convey to us that they can't [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► bring themselves to say for various reasons because it's you and me this one [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► of the things with this image in a way that they spoke about it is that they [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► don't expect or even want everybody to buy everything you're not supposed to [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► have an iMac and MacBook and an iPad and iPad Mini and you know a phone and a [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► watch if you do great you know you're a great customer but if you just have two [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► of them that's great you know maybe you have this iPhone six-plus and because [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► it's a huge phone [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► feel like now I don't need an iPad and your only other product is a Macbook and [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► you just use that MacBook everywhere you use it at your desk to use it when you [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► travel and that's it you're perfect you're perfectly encourage that's that's [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► that's absolutely encouraged but they can't say that they can't say it ok if [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► you don't buy this you know i mean you can't get on stage and say you know this [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► cool new iMac that we do show dude it's totally fine if you don't buy into work [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► every talk about this an ATP little while ago about how they even just [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► within the iOS device range you see them head-on or whatever they call it look [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► like a black border around [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► color LCD screen of various sizes but now they really fleshed out the range [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► especially with the watch being a little tiny thing and then you have all the [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► different various sizes of iPhones in the big one of the biggest one gets [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► close to the many and that you know like it's a pretty smooth scale-up of [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► rectangular color screens that you can buy from the big I read them on the you [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► bought but and as the physical form factors have started to form the smooth [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► scale but they're kind of showing in this image here they're still [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► discontinuities because what is the difference between an iPhone 6 plus an [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► iPad 1 runs iPad apps and one runs iPhone apps and the line between them [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► ATP is probably going to go away sometime in the near future because that [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► distinction like if you were to get an iPhone six-plus [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► go to the App Store and be like oh I want this game or just happen to like us [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► are you can only think what do you mean iPad only like that that is not much [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► bigger screen Melling man what is it about the thing holding my hand the [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► music can't run a quote unquote iPad that distinction seems like it's going [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► to go away but this the other gap of like you get the iPad error if they [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► become a pro and then to a MacBook Air which presumably go read it to why are [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► these are different like well as you to explain why is a keyboard but they run [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► totally different OS's one has touched one is not touch like Apple's expecting [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► you to pick your spot in their product line where you feel comfortable because [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► there are discontinuity still and I never going to paper over them to the [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► Microsoft does like 2010 as everybody that's not what Apple believes in but in [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► any kind of transition like another discontinuity when you go from the phone [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► to the watch is just has to be account work the same way it's just too small or [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► whatever so these little gaps like if they were to space out of like watch big [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► gap phone phone phone tiny gap iPad laptop even bigger gap I'm at your spot [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► the pic in that range of like you know I Chinese food man you want to call a one [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► column be like and make up the suite of devices that fill out your life and by [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► having this range I think obviously someone's not just gonna buy the watch [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► and not have a PC and not have a cell phone like they're gonna have something [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► in this rain just which ones do you think you need no one needs to fill in [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► all caps and then they did but they can't say it that way right and I've [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► always hated the way like we have something for every day you know like it [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► is a look at this range like look at the richest cities range they're surely [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► there is something that fits your needs like we have no flushing out like to [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► diversify now fallen for the longest time like the iPhone was the iPhone and [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► everybody wanted like it even now he said his room for diversification of [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► like you know make one [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► longer battery life or something like that they've diversified their line to [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► say something for everybody and the same way they don't expect you to buy two [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► iPhones like the big one in the small linear night phony your day phone it's [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► the same thing that they don't say that because I think its obvious but just [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► like the not gonna say if you if you buy [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► MacBook Pro we probably can expect you to buy an iMac because the MacBook Pros [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► are completely fully capable awesome machine you can do everything on but if [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► you're the kind of person who wants a desktop we will offer one of those two [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► ya Mac Pro some people wrote to me after the iMac announcement and they're sort [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► of I have obviously they've bottomed last 10 months and they're angry that [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► you know did not get angry just went out and bought an iMac but to me that's so [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► totally not surprising you know that even though the Mac Pro is very [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► expensive machine and in theory should always be at the leading edge of [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► technology and it is in a lot of ways that it didn't go retina first or at [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► least simultaneously and probably not even close like I know by Marcos logic [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► of why he doesn't think a stand-alone five Kage displays gonna ship from Apple [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► until 2016 is pretty sound because it there's a lot of I think he's gonna [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► probably doesn't need DisplayPort / honorable in a 1.38 / Thunderbolt 30 [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► they're not going to do that then I can have hereunto cables to drive it just [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► means that there is always obvious that there's a advantage of an all-in-one DVD [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► all mine has they can use whatever the hell interconnect they want inside that [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► box right doesn't either confirmed any specification and doesn't need that they [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► could just do what do what you gotta do to make it work it all happens inside [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► the box so you're always going to have an advantage for that thing if it [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► happened that a standardized external interconnect existed for retina displays [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► in the same time as the macro macro would have had it for ya but it just so [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► happened that it didn't end and then you're like ok we need to get right now [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► they're somehow and because the Mac Pro uses that the Odyssey on parts and [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► because their generation behind because we don't have the external interacts [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► apple just did whatever the hell it took to get it done inside this iMac box and [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► don't worry about what goes on behind the curtain track [TS]

01:02:46 ◼   ► but it does create this weird and historical time you know to five six [TS]

01:02:51 ◼   ► seven years now we're gonna look back on it and it will just be compressed and [TS]

01:02:54 ◼   ► we'll just remember that I'm actress first and everything you know the [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► standalone displays were second in the interim though it is weird that the iMac [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► is going to have these super amazing retina displays and the Mac Pro no [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► matter how much money is spent on it and let you know well I mean you can get a [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► fork a display from AppBrain four years back and then you buy one of those like [TS]

01:03:14 ◼   ► special you know once for photography that has a bigger color gamut and has [TS]

01:03:18 ◼   ► better accuracy and you buy from NEC it like the people who are buying Mac Pros [TS]

01:03:23 ◼   ► minority have a super high res monitors for a video editing that confirmed two [TS]

01:03:28 ◼   ► different standards then this consumer IMAX screens so it's not the people who [TS]

01:03:34 ◼   ► might be complaining people who had bought a Mac Pro but didn't really need [TS]

01:03:38 ◼   ► one and just want to have a can of them machine right that's the case I do think [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► that's right what irks them is that now until there's a five k stand-alone [TS]

01:03:49 ◼   ► display and when that comes out it won't run on the exact you have to get in any [TS]

01:03:53 ◼   ► way they envisioned ongoing in a meeting at one of the many reasons that I didn't [TS]

01:03:57 ◼   ► buy one is like well if I was waiting for retina this Mac Pro is not the [TS]

01:04:00 ◼   ► machine because we know what it's capable of we know Apple didn't even [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► offer any monitors I didn't want their body mind if I did have it there and I [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► didn't want to be forecast wanted what Apple made here that I want to 27 inches [TS]

01:04:11 ◼   ► that resolution of my wife 27 inch Thunderbolt Display [TS]

01:04:14 ◼   ► just double the number of pixels very clean cars on there that's the thing [TS]

01:04:18 ◼   ► that really blew me away at first I was like [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► waiting for the well there's gotta be a catch and then I thought about like like [TS]

01:04:26 ◼   ► with the iPhone six-plus where it's not really three acts retinoids to 2.8 2.6 [TS]

01:04:32 ◼   ► and they just use scaling to make it work and it looks pretty good but it's [TS]

01:04:37 ◼   ► still not the same time they gave the pixel dimensions and unlike dividing a [TS]

01:04:44 ◼   ► man on the moon that sounds like actual to axe you know and it is no doubt that [TS]

01:04:49 ◼   ► announced their monetary similar specs so you'd seen as Dell announced he like [TS]

01:04:53 ◼   ► okay well this must be technically possible now after I was going to offer [TS]

01:04:56 ◼   ► one possible that it's like when when does Apple have a product this could be [TS]

01:05:01 ◼   ► mean if they didn't exist and Dell comes out with his monitor the current Mac [TS]

01:05:06 ◼   ► Pros can't drive with a single cable and might not be able to drive to get it [TS]

01:05:11 ◼   ► then we just put all been waiting and be like well Dell's got these matters we [TS]

01:05:14 ◼   ► can't have them but the iMac does exist in gave Apple an opportunity to you know [TS]

01:05:19 ◼   ► we can get as soon as those displays are available we gotta get 121 our machines [TS]

01:05:23 ◼   ► behind that is the way to make that happen so famous you know knock on wood [TS]

01:05:27 ◼   ► let's wait until I actually take it out and set up and use it but I'm paper at [TS]

01:05:32 ◼   ► least and from what I've seen in person this is the Mac i've been waiting for [TS]

01:05:35 ◼   ► close to 10 years you know it's gonna be big upgrade valujet ever since I i [TS]

01:05:42 ◼   ► remember when they were first talking about it bc maybe 2006 2007 but what [TS]

01:05:48 ◼   ► they called it what are they called it before they had to work retina high dpi [TS]

01:05:54 ◼   ► resolution resolution independent scalable you I resolution independence [TS]

01:05:59 ◼   ► was and I remember I mention this to like my my fellow obsessive resolution [TS]

01:06:05 ◼   ► independence is cable sasser panic and I remember going to the session [TS]

01:06:10 ◼   ► at WBC with him we came out so excited and he was like we're gonna do all the [TS]

01:06:16 ◼   ► graphics and other apps as PDAs and they did in fact they say parents started [TS]

01:06:20 ◼   ► shipping UPS with with scalable PDF icons and stuff like that [TS]

01:06:25 ◼   ► inside for tow bars and stuff like that years ago because of cable and I both [TS]

01:06:30 ◼   ► convinced ourselves I don't even know what we were thinking I mean it's not [TS]

01:06:35 ◼   ► just you like at like if you go back to my old OS 10 reviews Apple made promises [TS]

01:06:38 ◼   ► they liked by 2008 our home product line will be resolution independent so get [TS]

01:06:43 ◼   ► ready like 2006 when they say they gave it they give a year and a date and like [TS]

01:06:47 ◼   ► every year like they were used to be section and my users like you know [TS]

01:06:51 ◼   ► resolution dependence how's that going along and I would take a little [TS]

01:06:54 ◼   ► screenshot of texts at it in like 20 X motor 1150 did you see what a trainwreck [TS]

01:06:58 ◼   ► as you like and that's why this is still not easy facing see you next year I we [TS]

01:07:03 ◼   ► just convinced ourselves that the like right now I'm actually gonna be coming [TS]

01:07:06 ◼   ► out in late 2008 and you're so excited we wanted to get in line to buy one then [TS]

01:07:11 ◼   ► and it took until now just i mean it was so much easier to make the iPhone 4 [TS]

01:07:16 ◼   ► screen to waste your victims and it's just so hard to make it that density you [TS]

01:07:21 ◼   ► know so we had to wait a long time before I was economically feasible to [TS]

01:07:25 ◼   ► make a screen this message that was the whole thing with red as well maybe they [TS]

01:07:28 ◼   ► could do earlier maybe we'll just do it for 21 inch of track right cuz they [TS]

01:07:33 ◼   ► could have gone that made that one retina sooner I would've been like for [TS]

01:07:36 ◼   ► cash or three kailash type resolution but no they weren't true though the [TS]

01:07:40 ◼   ► whole enchilada yeah and it's really as far as I can tell no compromise its in [TS]

01:07:45 ◼   ► terms of the number of pixels the way they're doing it you know that there's [TS]

01:07:48 ◼   ► no no cheapening out on it it's super bright it's amazing to me that was [TS]

01:07:54 ◼   ► anything to during the event last week after you know Phil gave the specs and [TS]

01:08:00 ◼   ► the size and you know I love you know what's gonna powers that's you know it's [TS]

01:08:08 ◼   ► a huge problem all these pixels lighten up [TS]

01:08:10 ◼   ► is this thing gonna get super hot and instead it takes less power which is [TS]

01:08:14 ◼   ► crazy [TS]

01:08:17 ◼   ► yeah that that's the thing that made me feel good about the machine that like [TS]

01:08:20 ◼   ► that is not going to be just the ragged edge of what's possible to wade into [TS]

01:08:24 ◼   ► this thing you know the cooling everything so they you know the GPU is [TS]

01:08:28 ◼   ► is hotter but they made up for by actually make you scream my hope is that [TS]

01:08:33 ◼   ► it's what bye bye not compromising and clearly like you said they could have [TS]

01:08:37 ◼   ► shipped something sooner whether it was a 21 inch first or make it a 27 inch for [TS]

01:08:43 ◼   ► k displaying you scaling to make the on-screen elements a reasonable size as [TS]

01:08:48 ◼   ► opposed to making everything cartoonishly large they could have done [TS]

01:08:52 ◼   ► any number of those things within the last few years and didn't think [TS]

01:08:57 ◼   ► hopefully this it's almost like they're shipping like a 2.0 version of that they [TS]

01:09:02 ◼   ► waited until they can get everything just right for people who have one [TS]

01:09:07 ◼   ► sitting in their house tell themselves to make themselves feel better about [TS]

01:09:09 ◼   ► fresh generation Apple products is practically had to play it so far so so [TS]

01:09:19 ◼   ► far so good the only there was a little bit scary moment this morning when Marco [TS]

01:09:22 ◼   ► and I had a few people treating us like look at this study was swiping through [TS]

01:09:27 ◼   ► spaces on their new Renault 5 k iMac and it was like super slow and stuttering is [TS]

01:09:32 ◼   ► like but then million other people to be detained and showed the exact same thing [TS]

01:09:36 ◼   ► on there you know 13 inch MacBook Pros just say some weird yosemite but [TS]

01:09:40 ◼   ► hopefully the workout and 10:10 one which will hopefully come out soon as I [TS]

01:09:45 ◼   ► had I had no reproductions at home like I mean even I might you know for unibody [TS]

01:09:49 ◼   ► MacBook Pro Tools doing all that stuff but then I'm at work that had been on [TS]

01:09:54 ◼   ► for days that's running you some money I have enabled activated machine and [TS]

01:09:58 ◼   ► religion ever do otherwise and it was like oh this has gotta be somebody [TS]

01:10:01 ◼   ► bought because we get reports like it doesn't happen all the time and the best [TS]

01:10:06 ◼   ► I can tell us that it's some kind of issue that happens when your back is on [TS]

01:10:08 ◼   ► for a long time but there are bugs and that was the only scare so far about the [TS]

01:10:14 ◼   ► five-time acts turns out to be a false alarm [TS]

01:10:16 ◼   ► yeah I never know how far I can push it in [TS]

01:10:19 ◼   ► hands-on areas after these events like and there's others who who are older [TS]

01:10:26 ◼   ► than I have to do it and download kik pension transfer yeah I wouldn't do that [TS]

01:10:30 ◼   ► because then they'd stop you there is every one point like if people can get [TS]

01:10:36 ◼   ► longer hardware anyway then you can test it for all you want I can decide to do [TS]

01:10:39 ◼   ► the hands-on area well and I could see how the people who aren't getting review [TS]

01:10:45 ◼   ► units would be ten more tempted to do something like that and see if they can [TS]

01:10:48 ◼   ► get away with getting the iOS devices like you want to find out just three [TS]

01:10:53 ◼   ► courses that iPad right so you know quickly go to some I don't exploit some [TS]

01:10:58 ◼   ► crazy jailbreak thing to quickly get something like to be able to run yeah I [TS]

01:11:03 ◼   ► think they'll generally cut you off before you get there but it's funny [TS]

01:11:08 ◼   ► talking to them because the that the people who staff the hands-on areas I [TS]

01:11:11 ◼   ► think are all I know most of them are but I think all of them work under [TS]

01:11:16 ◼   ► schiller in the product marketing division at Apple and there it's easy to [TS]

01:11:23 ◼   ► think of them you know they all wear t-shirts they're working on an Apple [TS]

01:11:27 ◼   ► store something like that but they're all like in my experience super super [TS]

01:11:31 ◼   ► informed about the stuff that you were that you're talking about like if you [TS]

01:11:37 ◼   ► had asked is this three quarter in is that how he could when from 22 billion [TS]

01:11:42 ◼   ► transistors 23 they would know the answer but they also know that they're [TS]

01:11:46 ◼   ► not allowed to tell me that they're super super down there totally brief [TS]

01:11:49 ◼   ► they have to have their talking points they know what they will talk to you [TS]

01:11:52 ◼   ► about the no specific phrasing for you know if you ask a question or something [TS]

01:11:56 ◼   ► and they're gonna tell you something that they're gonna they're all going to [TS]

01:11:58 ◼   ► say a sentence in the same words it's it's talk about their profession and [TS]

01:12:02 ◼   ► that's all it's very evident like if you know anybody was there at their first [TS]

01:12:06 ◼   ► you know the first time you get invited to an Apple event you go to the entire [TS]

01:12:09 ◼   ► it very clear that they have a script and have talking point [TS]

01:12:12 ◼   ► but the other thing though is that they they're full time jobs three hundred and [TS]

01:12:18 ◼   ► sixty-three other days a year are working in Apple's product marketing [TS]

01:12:23 ◼   ► being hyper informed about that all of the technical details of all of Apple's [TS]

01:12:28 ◼   ► products like the these people know they know their shit they know the stuff [TS]

01:12:32 ◼   ► that's not on the script and it's you know and they're not going to be fooled [TS]

01:12:37 ◼   ► by somebody trying to download something like that maybe I could see getting away [TS]

01:12:42 ◼   ► with it and in the early parts of the hands-on areas because it's so crazy and [TS]

01:12:46 ◼   ► crowded and it's everybody wants to get their hands on him at once and maybe you [TS]

01:12:51 ◼   ► can get away with it but not my thing was I i they were showing photos of [TS]

01:12:57 ◼   ► course big images because it just shows off the thing they commissioned a guy [TS]

01:13:06 ◼   ► with like one of those bad ads but this camera that shoots like 50 50 megapixel [TS]

01:13:14 ◼   ► digital images and like a cityscape and you can see these details and you can [TS]

01:13:20 ◼   ► zoom in and read like the license plate number on the car and engine back out [TS]

01:13:25 ◼   ► and it's actually see that it still being rendered in individual pixels on [TS]

01:13:28 ◼   ► screen but I closed that and went to light the finder and opened up like it [TS]

01:13:33 ◼   ► so far a window and tried to drive around the window as fast as I could I [TS]

01:13:37 ◼   ► thought that was my benchmark in there and I'm here if I Drive a window around [TS]

01:13:40 ◼   ► as fast as I can [TS]

01:13:41 ◼   ► does it does it shear like I think that was a good thing testing also you know [TS]

01:13:47 ◼   ► if you think about the the first signature and the MacBook Pro 6 growing [TS]

01:13:51 ◼   ► at the maximum resolution at the one that was bigger than the native screen [TS]

01:13:54 ◼   ► you know that that one had a little bit of issues why not you know why but the [TS]

01:13:59 ◼   ► scaling and not with the composite compositing is always been pretty easy [TS]

01:14:03 ◼   ► to do with the way you looking for sharing is because you know they have to [TS]

01:14:05 ◼   ► be driving it was like essentially to DisplayPort 1.2 connections or the [TS]

01:14:09 ◼   ► equivalent behind the scenes in like you would look like the drive to left at the [TS]

01:14:12 ◼   ► screen like I mean that's the type of thing Apple would not ship if you could [TS]

01:14:17 ◼   ► if you could get tearing while dragging windows around I mean I will never shop [TS]

01:14:21 ◼   ► that even when it meant the dragon windows around with slow as molasses you [TS]

01:14:25 ◼   ► still get me [TS]

01:14:26 ◼   ► I would have been shocked but it's something I had to see to believe but [TS]

01:14:31 ◼   ► that was the extent that I tested it in advance [TS]

01:14:35 ◼   ► gets rolling I put in a position to window right in the middle so if there [TS]

01:14:38 ◼   ► was you know if it was some kind of two screens glued together trickery that I [TS]

01:14:44 ◼   ► tried to figure that out of course it's not anything else from the event last [TS]

01:14:51 ◼   ► week I guess there's the iPad 2 iPad 2 which is kind of interesting I think the [TS]

01:14:58 ◼   ► way that they've gone with their iPads is why I try to write about it this week [TS]

01:15:05 ◼   ► that its there's no real annual pattern to it and I don't think it means that [TS]

01:15:09 ◼   ► it's directionless I just feel Lake the engineering winds that they can pull off [TS]

01:15:15 ◼   ► each year while maintaining their profit margins are very very different as [TS]

01:15:21 ◼   ► compared to the iPhone which to me seems much more predictable with the top and [TS]

01:15:27 ◼   ► iPad and the reason I'm still totally in favour and iPad Pro is like while no one [TS]

01:15:33 ◼   ► is really paying much attention they're pushing up the highest and i OS device [TS]

01:15:39 ◼   ► to put pushing up really close to PC class in terms of power [TS]

01:15:44 ◼   ► not in terms of interfaith doesn't have a keyboard still it's still touch or [TS]

01:15:47 ◼   ► whatever but you know and it doesn't seem like a big deal I go on my iOS apps [TS]

01:15:52 ◼   ► faster and maybe like a game look nicer something like that but it's like it's [TS]

01:15:56 ◼   ► one of those things where when we have all the steps in between it doesn't seem [TS]

01:16:02 ◼   ► so impressive is not as impressive as you know iPhone 3G S iPhone 4 where they [TS]

01:16:06 ◼   ► go ready like wow they just doubled everything it's amazing right but [TS]

01:16:10 ◼   ► through a series of small steps this gonna come a point where new classes of [TS]

01:16:14 ◼   ► applications are possible on an iPad merely because they've been pressing [TS]

01:16:18 ◼   ► authority and there was a little stall there I think a lot of a deal with a [TS]

01:16:22 ◼   ► goodbye to ram for some time but now [TS]

01:16:24 ◼   ► having two cars from the how long we had two cars like everyone else and [TS]

01:16:27 ◼   ► quad-core like the Android space like that so now they're pressing again [TS]

01:16:31 ◼   ► gigs of ram three cars I don't think it makes new categories of stuff available [TS]

01:16:35 ◼   ► to you but maybe a generation or two from now we're gonna wake up and say [TS]

01:16:39 ◼   ► there are things of the iPad can do that the iPhone can't quite dream of doing it [TS]

01:16:45 ◼   ► I mean right now it's like you just need to power to run this big screen in the [TS]

01:16:49 ◼   ► end the iPhone you know is reasonable but like I i think you had just have so [TS]

01:16:53 ◼   ► much more headroom in the bigger form factor so far they haven't really been [TS]

01:16:56 ◼   ► willing to do with them I just the first year I feel like they're pulling away by [TS]

01:16:59 ◼   ► giving a double the RAM and everything but you know there is room I think there [TS]

01:17:04 ◼   ► is room for four more sophisticated applications to be an even larger an [TS]

01:17:10 ◼   ► even more powerful ipad were just like right now it's kind of like we're [TS]

01:17:14 ◼   ► inching towards that it just seems like a faster bigger iPad well I think the [TS]

01:17:17 ◼   ► two demos they chose were really good I think they were such great Emma's the [TS]

01:17:22 ◼   ► pixel pitch inventory and replay what did you see the schiller mispronounced [TS]

01:17:28 ◼   ► so shelter called it Pixelmator [TS]

01:17:33 ◼   ► but those are good demos because in theory if they've already got the iOS [TS]

01:17:39 ◼   ► app working for the iPad they could come out with maybe they will even though you [TS]

01:17:44 ◼   ► know maybe when Pixelmator I was ships it will be universal and a running [TS]

01:17:49 ◼   ► iPhone too but clearly editing photos is better the bigger the screen the better [TS]

01:17:54 ◼   ► and on a phone screen you're seriously constrained you know in for like the [TS]

01:17:59 ◼   ► exact thing that they did where they're making like an advertisement for you [TS]

01:18:03 ◼   ► know this big image and they want to superimpose taxed and you know having a [TS]

01:18:09 ◼   ► laptop size screen like the full-size iPad even though there might be small [TS]

01:18:15 ◼   ► for a laptop but still certainly you know nobody that the small iPad Mini is [TS]

01:18:20 ◼   ► vaguely giant-size phone size right it would be the biggest phone ever but it's [TS]

01:18:26 ◼   ► you know you could imagine somebody making an Android phone that's the size [TS]

01:18:30 ◼   ► of a night [TS]

01:18:30 ◼   ► many but not an iPad and for photo editing it's you know size matters and [TS]

01:18:36 ◼   ► then I think with those replay guys I thought that was an interesting boy you [TS]

01:18:41 ◼   ► could never do that on a PC demo because to meet the big part of that is that [TS]

01:18:48 ◼   ► you've already got the device you used to ship to shoot declares it's all one [TS]

01:18:54 ◼   ► thing it's the camera is the editing system is the playback system right and [TS]

01:18:59 ◼   ► you don't have that with the laptop like where you might shoot a bunch of video [TS]

01:19:03 ◼   ► on your phone and then you can connect your phone with the lightning adapter to [TS]

01:19:08 ◼   ► your MacBook and suck all the video over and open NNN you might airplane on GTV [TS]

01:19:13 ◼   ► so people can see it and put it back on your screen but it certainly aid that [TS]

01:19:19 ◼   ► beyond the technical acumen of the light typical people and be it's not something [TS]

01:19:24 ◼   ► you want to do an occasion like in the demo that it's like it's the type of [TS]

01:19:30 ◼   ► thing we're here on vacation you tell yourself when you get back home boy [TS]

01:19:32 ◼   ► you're going to spend a day and take all your stuff and put it on your computer [TS]

01:19:35 ◼   ► and make a nice video and send out to be open communication and you're rushing [TS]

01:19:39 ◼   ► around and you're back to regular when you're on vacation [TS]

01:19:42 ◼   ► you got the iPad with you you can do and you know go back to your hotel room [TS]

01:19:45 ◼   ► right here waiting for your table at dinner and just suck these clips in and [TS]

01:19:50 ◼   ► push a button and have it finished video pop out that you could post share share [TS]

01:19:55 ◼   ► right there and then say hey guys this is overdoing on vacation and like other [TS]

01:19:59 ◼   ► things looking for the iPad which we still haven't seen but people have poked [TS]

01:20:02 ◼   ► around like the whole you know split-screen multitasking which we know [TS]

01:20:05 ◼   ► is lurking the code for putting multiple apps and two thirds of course it's there [TS]

01:20:10 ◼   ► and obviously it's not Baghdad and are ready for a new maybe you need a bigger [TS]

01:20:13 ◼   ► iPad or whatever but that's what I'm talking about it like pressing the [TS]

01:20:17 ◼   ► limits of what can be done on a touch device I can't help but think they're [TS]

01:20:20 ◼   ► going to two gigs of ram is a sign that [TS]

01:20:24 ◼   ► if there's an iPad pro in like five months from now that's the route the [TS]

01:20:29 ◼   ► rumor is you know make maybe like February or March they're gonna have an [TS]

01:20:33 ◼   ► iPad Pro 12 or 13 inches or something like that and it'll have split screen my [TS]

01:20:39 ◼   ► guess is that this iPad if that's true this iPad air to get the split screen [TS]

01:20:44 ◼   ► too but no other iPad because of room on the smaller yeah I think it's not like [TS]

01:20:50 ◼   ► they've promised it but you know in fact I guess they still sell the original [TS]

01:20:55 ◼   ► many which they're selling for 249 is only 512 megs of RAM and you know you [TS]

01:21:02 ◼   ► guys talk about ATP but it's it the frustration with the growing range from [TS]

01:21:07 ◼   ► bottom high-end alone is that developers don't have the ability to say this app [TS]

01:21:12 ◼   ► only runs on the iPad air too because it so graphically intense you can't do that [TS]

01:21:17 ◼   ► your iPad you your iPad app has to run on at least lunch on all iPads and [TS]

01:21:22 ◼   ► that's something Apple has the flexibility of changes in at just an app [TS]

01:21:26 ◼   ► store ruled they can change the role in a time they can give you a little API [TS]

01:21:29 ◼   ► endpoint update to definitively say because they keep bragging about as [TS]

01:21:33 ◼   ► Marco pointed out that they that big chart that shows the GPU speed that goes [TS]

01:21:38 ◼   ► up like a big hockey look how far we've come the a Texas its GPU is so [TS]

01:21:42 ◼   ► incredibly powerful and yet they're still shipping the second on the ground [TS]

01:21:46 ◼   ► a second like well it doesn't help that I gotta make a game that runs on that [TS]

01:21:50 ◼   ► second . I don't it's frustrating to me the X's out there is now a good game [TS]

01:21:56 ◼   ► that scales from all the way out at the I can't believe we used to live like [TS]

01:22:00 ◼   ► animals like that and to the hockey stick [TS]

01:22:03 ◼   ► remove texture mapping in that version will just be flat shading but I do think [TS]

01:22:08 ◼   ► that there's a general you know the gist of it is if you're an iPad app or modern [TS]

01:22:12 ◼   ► iPhone app you can assume you have access to about a gig of memory if you [TS]

01:22:17 ◼   ► need to if you need it so I feel like this I feel like the iPad air to getting [TS]

01:22:22 ◼   ► to his [TS]

01:22:24 ◼   ► is a sign that if they're split screen it'll get it and I don't think the other [TS]

01:22:28 ◼   ► ones will assist I'm 42 day like it's it's kind of sad that the iPhone doesn't [TS]

01:22:34 ◼   ► have a very least you can make some kind of battery life [TS]

01:22:36 ◼   ► excuse for the phone yeah definitely I mean maybe like it's like it's [TS]

01:22:42 ◼   ► borderline they've been made it happen only if they gave it two gigs of ram it [TS]

01:22:46 ◼   ► would be a different devices but there's a there's a Quora post I haven't linked [TS]

01:22:51 ◼   ► to it from doing fireball because I feel like it's a little I i dont I can't [TS]

01:22:56 ◼   ► verify myself and it seems a little bit to rob reliable even when they even when [TS]

01:23:02 ◼   ► they don't even when they don't put enough RAM in the phone it's it's all [TS]

01:23:06 ◼   ► good but the expert if somebody asked on Quora why it why did the new iPhone 6 [TS]

01:23:10 ◼   ► only still only one gigabyte of RAM when a lot of the top Topshop competitors on [TS]

01:23:15 ◼   ► Android have to like the top-ranked answer was somebody saying that it's [TS]

01:23:20 ◼   ► there's probably a whole bunch of other reasons too but the big one is that a [TS]

01:23:26 ◼   ► garbage collected system like Java needs double the RAM a man on garbage [TS]

01:23:31 ◼   ► collected system like iOS and that their date linked to an academic paper that [TS]

01:23:36 ◼   ► showed how you know if you can give the garbage collected system enough RAM it [TS]

01:23:43 ◼   ► all just works out but when a garbage collected system gets rammed constrained [TS]

01:23:47 ◼   ► it goes to hell and everything gets cummed up waiting for memory and it or [TS]

01:23:55 ◼   ► something to that I do think that you know I S because it's a garbage [TS]

01:23:59 ◼   ► collected can get by a one gig longer than it will then like Android could've [TS]

01:24:04 ◼   ► but I still do you know it's it's still irritating every time I go back to [TS]

01:24:08 ◼   ► safari in my taxable been pushed and that's that kind of messed up the grill [TS]

01:24:14 ◼   ► luxurious buying the top and iPad air to is gonna get you think I go back to [TS]

01:24:19 ◼   ► Safari ASAP re still running it's healthy and be inspired [TS]

01:24:23 ◼   ► aight I just had [TS]

01:24:25 ◼   ► I notice with my review on my first break before about an hour before the [TS]

01:24:28 ◼   ► show I was flipping through your committee review and it had finally [TS]

01:24:34 ◼   ► gotten flushed from memory but I hadn't been in Safari for a while [TS]

01:24:38 ◼   ► been doing a lot of other stuff but it is being generated images that are in [TS]

01:24:42 ◼   ► there if you can do that to you that I was the first one it got inflation it [TS]

01:24:47 ◼   ► was definitely noticeable I think it's super interesting to that they've gone [TS]

01:24:51 ◼   ► they've so out of class but it's it's so noticeably faster than the iPhone 6 in [TS]

01:24:58 ◼   ► any kind of benchmark because it has you know it's a faster and faster single [TS]

01:25:02 ◼   ► core and it has a third quarter the GPU is more powerful desire to push more [TS]

01:25:08 ◼   ► pixels and I think I may look to the specs but I think they may be like it [TS]

01:25:12 ◼   ► had over power point where it's not just like the same speed is this is the [TS]

01:25:17 ◼   ► iPhone 6 GPU but just has to push more pixels it's like it can push the more [TS]

01:25:21 ◼   ► pixels and then some [TS]

01:25:22 ◼   ► yeah and I got to talk to I just happened to beefs my seat in the event [TS]

01:25:28 ◼   ► last week was right behind the front towards the front like fifth row on the [TS]

01:25:32 ◼   ► left and demagogues role in front of me like right in front of me where the the [TS]

01:25:36 ◼   ► replay guys in two rows in front of me were the guys and I know the guys [TS]

01:25:42 ◼   ► because they sponsored sponsored the show but I know that sponsored a [TS]

01:25:46 ◼   ► fireball many times and I've emailed them in a recent 1.0 came out it was [TS]

01:25:50 ◼   ► like wow somebody actually used you know image and all these other cool Apple [TS]

01:25:54 ◼   ► technologies to do the things we've been talking about for fifteen years and have [TS]

01:25:58 ◼   ► indeed rival to Photoshop [TS]

01:26:00 ◼   ► China by email you know since forever first time ever met in person I've was [TS]

01:26:05 ◼   ► awesome to be able to congratulate them in person you know what a moment in a [TS]

01:26:10 ◼   ► you get to be on stage at an Apple event and demo your app and end up I know the [TS]

01:26:16 ◼   ► replay guys a little bit too I didn't recognize the names when they first got [TS]

01:26:19 ◼   ► called up but they've sent me just as the guy rates during fireball the same [TS]

01:26:23 ◼   ► emails on various things over the years and you know we were right there in town [TS]

01:26:27 ◼   ► hall with a couple minutes before they were gonna kick us out and they're you [TS]

01:26:31 ◼   ► know they're not gonna give me any kind of state secrets about what what life [TS]

01:26:35 ◼   ► was like the last couple of weeks while they were working on this but they you [TS]

01:26:38 ◼   ► know they could speak a little bit and both of them like the replay guy said [TS]

01:26:42 ◼   ► that he thinks if anything Apple has completely undersold the graphics [TS]

01:26:48 ◼   ► performance of the 8x [TS]

01:26:50 ◼   ► that when you know from what they were doing the last couple weeks getting the [TS]

01:26:54 ◼   ► demo together for replay that it was way faster than what Apple the same compared [TS]

01:26:58 ◼   ► to iPhone sex it that's the thing about the power in these like they're putting [TS]

01:27:04 ◼   ► so much power and as iPad building up to the next sort of the next on a big leap [TS]

01:27:09 ◼   ► like they were gonna have to worry about to get a different class of applications [TS]

01:27:12 ◼   ► but especially for graphics performance the the the different class of [TS]

01:27:16 ◼   ► applications and you can get is a extremely graphic sophisticated game and [TS]

01:27:22 ◼   ► you're never gonna really have one of those on iPad air too because it's the [TS]

01:27:28 ◼   ► same reason like when you know when I go watch dogs are you know what it was like [TS]

01:27:33 ◼   ► you know more about us by phone but any like modern console game at the current [TS]

01:27:39 ◼   ► generation consoles there is no we part of those kids the Wii is standard [TS]

01:27:43 ◼   ► definition and incredibly weak and there is no way to scale a modern PlayStation [TS]

01:27:48 ◼   ► 4 game that all the way down to something that's in that dark like this [TS]

01:27:53 ◼   ► not you can use fewer texts and lower resolution textures and the game will [TS]

01:27:57 ◼   ► run fine he's just not possible right you cannot take a game is getting better [TS]

01:28:00 ◼   ► so any game that takes full advantage of the 8x I don't know if you can make a [TS]

01:28:05 ◼   ► version of that game that also runs on the 249 [TS]

01:28:08 ◼   ► within a five and by I'd like there's nothing you can do to the game to make a [TS]

01:28:12 ◼   ► run on that and so like you kind of stuck you can never make you can never [TS]

01:28:17 ◼   ► make an app that can really take advantage of it is really happening in [TS]

01:28:20 ◼   ► gangs or like scientific imaging the only two things that you could do it [TS]

01:28:24 ◼   ► really use the GPU like that so it's kind of it's kind of a shame that you [TS]

01:28:28 ◼   ► know I mean I guess you can do your image effects really really fast and the [TS]

01:28:32 ◼   ► you know the a 52 grams affects the same ones just much slower and that's how you [TS]

01:28:37 ◼   ► can get away with doing something like Pixelmator on both platforms but games I [TS]

01:28:40 ◼   ► feel like people are stuck there that that and also if you're those type of [TS]

01:28:44 ◼   ► games that graphic sophistication costs so much money to make you hurt yourself [TS]

01:28:48 ◼   ► a lot of them and I'm not sure that the touch interface is sufficient to you [TS]

01:28:54 ◼   ► know to sell again like five hundred million dollar game i guess i pad I [TS]

01:29:00 ◼   ► don't know if you could you could sell that with if you've already sweating on [TS]

01:29:03 ◼   ► this is great because now that I have a 10 year old son I actually am familiar [TS]

01:29:06 ◼   ► with just about every title that you've mentioned including testing do you have [TS]

01:29:11 ◼   ► to know you know we have free access and I don't know what to do about it because [TS]

01:29:18 ◼   ► I kind of feel like the PlayStation 4 looks like the better the more time goes [TS]

01:29:21 ◼   ► on looks like it's a better platform also do you have destiny yeah we have it [TS]

01:29:25 ◼   ► on the Xbox yeah yeah pretty good game [TS]

01:29:30 ◼   ► have you played just to toy around I'm told I like the old man but it's you [TS]

01:29:40 ◼   ► know really really graphically an Xbox you should check Xbox Live Arcade I [TS]

01:29:44 ◼   ► think it was a version of Crystal Quest [TS]

01:29:47 ◼   ► get about it so I'm me tell you you get into a we played some stick it in any [TS]

01:29:54 ◼   ► way you need a mouse do they really have it and [TS]

01:29:54 ◼   ► way you need a mouse do they really have it and [TS]

01:30:00 ◼   ► yeah I believe so maybe now in the the Xbox one way back when are you there on [TS]

01:30:03 ◼   ► the original Xbox 360 cassidy angry nothing was the actual real company may [TS]

01:30:08 ◼   ► request for I do think I do think though that this is games in particular I do [TS]

01:30:15 ◼   ► think that they're really pushing a pull to open up the App Store 22 hardware [TS]

01:30:21 ◼   ► limit that app somehow you know if they already let you limited by OS [TS]

01:30:27 ◼   ► I just can't see why it's getting to be untenable as they extend the life of [TS]

01:30:34 ◼   ► these you know these devices and that's the thing that the as Alan pie called it [TS]

01:30:40 ◼   ► the zombie iMac that $249 retin A not render my iPad Mini the original iPad [TS]

01:30:48 ◼   ► Mini which is from two years ago is really from four years ago because they [TS]

01:30:55 ◼   ► 5 system on a chip and the 512 megabytes of RAM and everything is really it's the [TS]

01:31:01 ◼   ► iPad 2 shrunken down like the iphone4s writer the same generation as they must [TS]

01:31:06 ◼   ► have been around the 4900 my iPod touches the same thing [TS]

01:31:10 ◼   ► 512 pics from a five-point night so they've actually it's just in a weird [TS]

01:31:15 ◼   ► way Lake they've actually the lineup I think only has a has a 52 49 but then [TS]

01:31:24 ◼   ► there is no a six iPad left there already gone so it's it's like a year [TS]

01:31:33 ◼   ► behind an extra year behind the next step up its it's a really old piece of [TS]

01:31:39 ◼   ► technology and I liked and again for some this thing is every time you know [TS]

01:31:45 ◼   ► it all came out and now be a texture is like and the Apple TV to get playing [TS]

01:31:51 ◼   ► video games on your television through an Apple devices like just sitting there [TS]

01:31:55 ◼   ► in front of Apple for you like they've gotten him get every single piece of the [TS]

01:31:58 ◼   ► puzzle that just don't have the desire to do just fine I can't be in every [TS]

01:32:01 ◼   ► business maybe they don't feel like going into that fray but as they [TS]

01:32:05 ◼   ► accumulate to pieces especially with metal [TS]

01:32:07 ◼   ► and the Apple TV and go there on ARM chips for these crazy GPUs in them like [TS]

01:32:13 ◼   ► I don't necessarily recommend that they go for it but I don't think there will [TS]

01:32:16 ◼   ► be equipped to compete in that space but it's just so weird to see them it's kind [TS]

01:32:19 ◼   ► of like what it was back in the e-book the dawning of the book around 2001 2002 [TS]

01:32:25 ◼   ► and was like Apple's got these iPods and it got away to some things didn't get [TS]

01:32:28 ◼   ► online with the iTunes Store and like they have all the pieces to dominate the [TS]

01:32:33 ◼   ► e-book space like they're basically i think is made before the Kindle came out [TS]

01:32:37 ◼   ► like maybe around the same time we can go to the same things like why is Apple [TS]

01:32:41 ◼   ► not you know the e-book market is there for the taking for Apple to have all the [TS]

01:32:45 ◼   ► pieces that have the momentum they could they could do it just not interested and [TS]

01:32:49 ◼   ► eventually like yeah I guess we'll see books 228 Amazon most dominant player [TS]

01:32:53 ◼   ► and I boxes covered also ran and the gaming space obviously has been heavily [TS]

01:32:57 ◼   ► populated for years and years but here's apple just dutifully working to [TS]

01:33:00 ◼   ► essentially build the ingredients of a world-class gaming console platform and [TS]

01:33:05 ◼   ► then just not not doing that yeah I you said it's laying right in front of them [TS]

01:33:09 ◼   ► because the 8x I didn't hate is probably pretty good and you could make it [TS]

01:33:14 ◼   ► reasonable gaming console out of it especially with metal which you know [TS]

01:33:23 ◼   ► again talkin to you know developers Apple calling it ten times faster than [TS]

01:33:28 ◼   ► OpenGL seems fair [TS]

01:33:30 ◼   ► it seems like you know real world well it's 10 X in like you know if you do [TS]

01:33:36 ◼   ► something stupid and you just measuring draw calls to say it's a it's a micro [TS]

01:33:40 ◼   ► benchmark but like anything is better lol API every game console has something [TS]

01:33:44 ◼   ► like like Apple AAPL has done something that's that's that's the advantage apple [TS]

01:33:49 ◼   ► today modern apple today has is that they have enough developer support in so [TS]

01:33:53 ◼   ► many customers that they can get developers to use their support like the [TS]

01:33:58 ◼   ► part of the game engines you know the unity and unreal for engineering like it [TS]

01:34:02 ◼   ► will make a port solely for you know so they can sell I was right because that's [TS]

01:34:05 ◼   ► a that's a big market and make a lot of money off that so all those engines are [TS]

01:34:08 ◼   ► so yeah yeah well we'll make a part of her engine 22 metal and then everybody [TS]

01:34:12 ◼   ► who built games on our engine will take advantage [TS]

01:34:14 ◼   ► like to build a full fledged console is there had to do something like when be [TS]

01:34:19 ◼   ► like the lower powered like the PlayStation TV or something because [TS]

01:34:22 ◼   ► they're not going to compete in power with PlayStation for it but there's no [TS]

01:34:27 ◼   ► reason that Apple couldn't build a device that competes with the [TS]

01:34:31 ◼   ► PlayStation 4 it would not be just an 8x in the box but like by making the [TS]

01:34:35 ◼   ► addicts and metal and having a store and talking to game developers and getting [TS]

01:34:39 ◼   ► the engines for technology shows that if they wanted to they could make a product [TS]

01:34:44 ◼   ► like this that is of similar power to place it in forever the next generation [TS]

01:34:48 ◼   ► is and decide to compete in that space I don't they just don't want to be just [TS]

01:34:51 ◼   ► fine like it's all about what do you say yes to what he say it like that the [TS]

01:34:54 ◼   ► recent interview where you keep saying like there's plenty of things we could [TS]

01:34:58 ◼   ► do we have plenty of great ideas and we don't we don't not doing because we're [TS]

01:35:01 ◼   ► not capable of them to just choose what they want to do and thus far they have [TS]

01:35:05 ◼   ► not made this choice just like for all those years they chose not to enter the [TS]

01:35:08 ◼   ► e-book market so well or even honestly even chose not to enter the phone market [TS]

01:35:12 ◼   ► I mean people who were clamoring for an Apple phone ever since cellphones became [TS]

01:35:18 ◼   ► consumer priced items like they hadn't figured out what they wanted to do for a [TS]

01:35:24 ◼   ► phone you like that different competing internal products anything whereas the [TS]

01:35:27 ◼   ► game consoles everything I do is like we just got back into the game console like [TS]

01:35:30 ◼   ► everybody else like this like that don't enter the space until they feel like [TS]

01:35:33 ◼   ► they have something significant to the iPhone that into the phone space like [TS]

01:35:36 ◼   ► the Motorola ROKR but they didn't feel their own phone that was just like a [TS]

01:35:40 ◼   ► candy bar phone right they didn't interest base until they had something [TS]

01:35:43 ◼   ► even though their candy bar phone would have been the best candy bar phone they [TS]

01:35:47 ◼   ► just didn't ride and that would have that would have hamstrung them because [TS]

01:35:50 ◼   ► that would have made it interesting iPhone harder than you got a transition [TS]

01:35:53 ◼   ► people what about my old phone I liked it what is this new thing but a blog [TS]

01:35:56 ◼   ► where is the iPhone is your first phone no problems and lastly the performance [TS]

01:36:01 ◼   ► thing and you know again I don't often go to benchmarks when I write reviews [TS]

01:36:06 ◼   ► but I really just think it's so fascinating how quickly the high-end [TS]

01:36:10 ◼   ► iPad is gaining on [TS]

01:36:12 ◼   ► the low-end MacBook Airs and again it's not apples to apples cos OS 10 and iOS [TS]

01:36:18 ◼   ► have so many different interface things and just rules about multitasking and [TS]

01:36:23 ◼   ► how much stuff can be going on in the background and how much RAM you get a [TS]

01:36:26 ◼   ► MacBook Air was like 16 days exactly which can have an enormous performance [TS]

01:36:32 ◼   ► especially not not even benchmark which is real world you know [TS]

01:36:36 ◼   ► benchmark in a real-world advantages because when you're switching between [TS]

01:36:39 ◼   ► these things you know they're all still in bed and I would have to think the SSD [TS]

01:36:44 ◼   ► storage and there's also felt like I think this is the first generation of [TS]

01:36:46 ◼   ► iOS products to use PCI Express for the SSD connections I heard that is a big [TS]

01:36:52 ◼   ► thing I haven't seen I can I fix a tear down right that's the case for like what [TS]

01:36:55 ◼   ► they've been doing that on macbook air for a while but but yeah like I heard [TS]

01:36:58 ◼   ► again not verified it's not like somebody showed pictures of it but yes [TS]

01:37:04 ◼   ► somebody'd seemingly reliable said its PCI Express which is you know its [TS]

01:37:10 ◼   ► desktop you know in a safe Desktop class performance they were there they're [TS]

01:37:13 ◼   ► actually they're not hyping it they're they're being serious and that's what it [TS]

01:37:17 ◼   ► like that negates that type of stuff the more boring stuff if you're not playing [TS]

01:37:20 ◼   ► a game that thing that gives your performance on just using your iOS [TS]

01:37:24 ◼   ► device is a matter of memory you have and how fast are just gonna get done [TS]

01:37:28 ◼   ► when you're launching a pin that wouldn't happen launching this happen [TS]

01:37:30 ◼   ► like it's not the CBO's most spending less time waiting for i/o during during [TS]

01:37:35 ◼   ► those times when you're waiting yeah which is exactly why I splurged and got [TS]

01:37:39 ◼   ► the SST stories for the iMac I feel like my last spinning hard dress that I've [TS]

01:37:46 ◼   ► ever bought you know this in the past I would like mine to be in the past but [TS]

01:37:51 ◼   ► they're not getting the other than external drives that I would use for [TS]

01:37:54 ◼   ► like backup or something like that we're not going to be waiting on it as it as a [TS]

01:37:58 ◼   ► user even then like at work my sister useful stuff that I use my super duper [TS]

01:38:05 ◼   ► clone a spinning and just so painful I how long a super duper phone just [TS]

01:38:10 ◼   ► you know it's like region the SSD and then just like go get a coffee [TS]

01:38:15 ◼   ► hardest ok I read one more thing from the SSDI could just see supra do so it's [TS]

01:38:19 ◼   ► all a symmetrical so I would love to be on this team but unfortunately I keep [TS]

01:38:23 ◼   ► accumulating stuff and hit the reset button on like storage is to be scaling [TS]

01:38:29 ◼   ► with my with my digital Harding and the Nexus these are like oh that's just now [TS]

01:38:35 ◼   ► barely catching up again with one terabyte as a third brake and thank our [TS]

01:38:42 ◼   ► last sponsored another longtime friend of the show our good friends at [TS]

01:38:47 ◼   ► Squarespace and they've got a brand new Squarespace seven its all new interface [TS]

01:38:55 ◼   ► to Squarespace you don't have to do anything you just like a new products [TS]

01:38:59 ◼   ► already on Squarespace you can just stopped in to get the new interface but [TS]

01:39:05 ◼   ► they've done an enormous amount of work it's a huge upgrade and that all of it [TS]

01:39:10 ◼   ► is to make things simple simpler and easier while retaining the power and [TS]

01:39:15 ◼   ► complexity of the Squarespace platform right so what is it you need a website [TS]

01:39:19 ◼   ► you go to Squarespace you sign up and i have a web site and they aim to solve [TS]

01:39:24 ◼   ► all the basics of your online identity by providing easy beautiful solutions [TS]

01:39:29 ◼   ► for your website for email for images logos domain new domain registration for [TS]

01:39:35 ◼   ► them and everything that they've learned from the millions of websites and thats [TS]

01:39:42 ◼   ► day of millions of websites people have built using Squarespace and they've [TS]

01:39:45 ◼   ► looked at where people were getting stuck with what space was before and [TS]

01:39:49 ◼   ► they've addressed it to some of the new features they've had in 2007 they have [TS]

01:39:53 ◼   ► title pages cover pages so if you wanna put like even brand your product you're [TS]

01:40:00 ◼   ► you're you're using Squarespace promoter Paul you got a brand new feature you can [TS]

01:40:03 ◼   ► add a cover page sort of like what Apple does with their home page you can have [TS]

01:40:07 ◼   ► a cover page that people will see and click through before they go to you know [TS]

01:40:12 ◼   ► your regular home page [TS]

01:40:14 ◼   ► all of their editing stuff they do instead of going into a separate mode [TS]

01:40:18 ◼   ► when you're logged in you can just drag-and-drop to edit right there on [TS]

01:40:22 ◼   ► your actual website it's a lot more with your website will look exactly like you [TS]

01:40:26 ◼   ► arrange to have one window where an editing mode and a second window where [TS]

01:40:31 ◼   ► it shows it and you have to keep switching between the two windows and [TS]

01:40:34 ◼   ► reloading see it you just do it right there in place they have new tastemaker [TS]

01:40:40 ◼   ► templates they're working with musicians artists architects and chefs to develop [TS]

01:40:45 ◼   ► new templates that cater to each of those professions so whatever field you [TS]

01:40:52 ◼   ► in whatever you're building a website to promote their expanding the range of [TS]

01:40:55 ◼   ► templates that are automatically laid out to integrate with what you need to [TS]

01:41:01 ◼   ► to give you an interface that's exactly what you would want if you are say [TS]

01:41:05 ◼   ► setting up a restaurant a restaurant website all sorts of cool stuff like [TS]

01:41:09 ◼   ► that where do you go to find out more easy go to Squarespace dot com slash [TS]

01:41:20 ◼   ► Gruber GRU BER my last name square space.com / grouper and they have a [TS]

01:41:27 ◼   ► discount code when you sign up that's just my initials J G 10% off [TS]

01:41:32 ◼   ► square space.com check out all of these I can't I would take half an hour to go [TS]

01:41:37 ◼   ► through all these features Squarespace seven there's so many of them go there [TS]

01:41:41 ◼   ► check it out they've got a great great demo setup to show you all the new [TS]

01:41:44 ◼   ► features are better than I could describe them to go check them out at [TS]

01:41:47 ◼   ► Squarespace dot com slash grouper so let's talk yosemite for the rest of the [TS]

01:41:53 ◼   ► show my son calls it might yeah I think he says he's exactly is funny I didn't [TS]

01:42:08 ◼   ► think about kids but that was exactly like the people said coming out to be [TS]

01:42:11 ◼   ► the BBC's the keynote is people don't know how to spell yosemite people don't [TS]

01:42:15 ◼   ► know what he is and then when my son started talking about like it doesn't [TS]

01:42:22 ◼   ► really matter it's free to sell it to people I think the visual thing and if [TS]

01:42:30 ◼   ► it is anything that that maybe I thought you underplayed was talking about the [TS]

01:42:34 ◼   ► visual redesign could I know you care but it's it's also a hard thing to talk [TS]

01:42:40 ◼   ► about you think I underplayed I spent a lot of words and that that's like the [TS]

01:42:44 ◼   ► footballing a section in there could've been longer cuz you know it I guess the [TS]

01:42:53 ◼   ► other thing too is that you you know that they're not we're gonna have [TS]

01:42:57 ◼   ► something to prove it and next year's will look a little better and look a [TS]

01:43:01 ◼   ► little better but you know I think you know this is basically what we're [TS]

01:43:04 ◼   ► looking at for the next you know at least probably a decade on the Mac yeah [TS]

01:43:13 ◼   ► I forget what I put it in my view my cut but one of the things I mentioned in the [TS]

01:43:18 ◼   ► most recent ATP's like this thing that Apple does when they have a new fancy [TS]

01:43:24 ◼   ► design that they like I did when I was seven they did it with the original aqua [TS]

01:43:29 ◼   ► and and 10 they did it with you know the various looks in between like brushed [TS]

01:43:32 ◼   ► metal they tend to err on the side of going too far down with a look and then [TS]

01:43:38 ◼   ► they back it off later in response to complaints and so like I was ever in [TS]

01:43:43 ◼   ► recent memory where they have a super thin fonts right and everything was just [TS]

01:43:47 ◼   ► you know maybe a little bit too precious and the parallax effect and assuming [TS]

01:43:51 ◼   ► everything and so you add things to reduce motion you want a little bit and [TS]

01:43:55 ◼   ► you make adjustments that was most of them before release but the Aqua [TS]

01:43:59 ◼   ► original version of 1010 was just crazy pinstripes everywhere super glossy and [TS]

01:44:04 ◼   ► lickable all faded and soft lighting like everything was shot with vaseline [TS]

01:44:08 ◼   ► on the lands and they back that offer years hardening up the edges toning down [TS]

01:44:13 ◼   ► the pinstripes and then brushed metal came in and everything was freakin metal [TS]

01:44:16 ◼   ► version turning that down getting rid of it but like going too far and then [TS]

01:44:20 ◼   ► backing off is preferable to them it seems they're not going far enough [TS]

01:44:24 ◼   ► like being timid so there's somebody is and and a kind of damone that in their [TS]

01:44:29 ◼   ► view or the part that account for the review that I don't know everything [TS]

01:44:32 ◼   ► there anymore as saying like to be nice if we could skip that part where they go [TS]

01:44:36 ◼   ► too far and just go right to the park with a tone it down a little bit and [TS]

01:44:41 ◼   ► maybe they thought they don't know where they need to turn down like a checkbox [TS]

01:44:44 ◼   ► to make the menu bar not translate because the transition then your body [TS]

01:44:47 ◼   ► original and liberals it's crazy translucent it made everything on [TS]

01:44:50 ◼   ► reading and now now they feel like they have the confidence to like well this is [TS]

01:44:55 ◼   ► crazy out there in the public gallery thing together and is aware of contrast [TS]

01:44:59 ◼   ► and it was just looking money and indistinct but it won't be unreadable so [TS]

01:45:02 ◼   ► no more checkbox to disable that it's like you know there are places where [TS]

01:45:07 ◼   ► they went too far in this and there there are budget adjustments that are [TS]

01:45:11 ◼   ► already there but none of them sort of none of them to need to be the way we [TS]

01:45:16 ◼   ► hope it's going to be in the next to revision yeah that's it [TS]

01:45:18 ◼   ► few hours before the show started [TS]

01:45:21 ◼   ► lens review of yosemite motives focusing solely on the appearance and I hurt my [TS]

01:45:27 ◼   ► feelings that I was your favorite [TS]

01:45:30 ◼   ► doesn't even count anyway yeah I know I i read his thing when the originally [TS]

01:45:36 ◼   ► Posted by that I mean it's a similar sentiment was 10 Balboa and last 10 [TS]

01:45:41 ◼   ► policies are gonna look great and I think that is totally true I'm basically [TS]

01:45:46 ◼   ► on board [TS]

01:45:47 ◼   ► completely with the the basic style but there's definitely some toning back that [TS]

01:45:52 ◼   ► I think needs to be done [TS]

01:45:53 ◼   ► also my big complained that I didn't just complain about ATP is like the [TS]

01:45:56 ◼   ► transparency effects I spend a lot of time explaining what the different kinds [TS]

01:46:01 ◼   ► of transparency are how they work and here's how they're deployed in the OS [TS]

01:46:05 ◼   ► right and all the stuff about the rearrangements of the USA and then I had [TS]

01:46:09 ◼   ► a whole section called philosophy which they can try to isolate the part where [TS]

01:46:12 ◼   ► I'm gonna like try to contact this like here's what it is here's what it looked [TS]

01:46:16 ◼   ► like here is whether use it and then it's like why why why is there at all [TS]

01:46:20 ◼   ► what is it about what's behind my menu bar that adds to my life right and you [TS]

01:46:24 ◼   ► know why do I need to see that yad to see any of that right what is you know [TS]

01:46:30 ◼   ► like because there's always some kind of philosophy I like the original aqua it [TS]

01:46:34 ◼   ► was like transient elements were a translucent yes so sheets just appeared [TS]

01:46:39 ◼   ► briefly in go away [TS]

01:46:40 ◼   ► drop down menus briefing go away those are translucent it's it's a temporary [TS]

01:46:45 ◼   ► there's a logic to it right but on the other hand the doc which was always [TS]

01:46:50 ◼   ► there was also transit so it just like well a few transients cooperate and here [TS]

01:46:55 ◼   ► at like you know I several times I've asked Apple about the effects and during [TS]

01:46:59 ◼   ► the different peanuts they've said here's why we do it and they have [TS]

01:47:01 ◼   ► reasons behind them and had to like look at those reasons and say like is this a [TS]

01:47:05 ◼   ► reason for you to pollute all of my side bars with the color of the desktop [TS]

01:47:09 ◼   ► background like sometimes that the justification can more capital the times [TS]

01:47:14 ◼   ► I like I don't buy like the whole thing of making the did you know that the [TS]

01:47:18 ◼   ► temperature in mood here desktop background influence the look of your OS [TS]

01:47:22 ◼   ► sounds like you mean it is a thing that happens it works like if you if you have [TS]

01:47:26 ◼   ► a super orange desktop background all year you're behind the window blending [TS]

01:47:31 ◼   ► transition regions are going to have attention [TS]

01:47:33 ◼   ► your menu bar is going to be changed on all the menus that are going to be [TS]

01:47:37 ◼   ► tinted orange red but like I did you know that that aspect of personalization [TS]

01:47:45 ◼   ► like it may just twice in the face of Trance tradition or whatever they want I [TS]

01:47:50 ◼   ► want my cleaning beautiful interface to be on top of that I don't want the [TS]

01:47:53 ◼   ► desktop picture like I may like it because it's a nice picture I like it [TS]

01:47:56 ◼   ► but I don't like its contribution to the sidebar of my email crime to now looks [TS]

01:48:02 ◼   ► like a muddy rusty orange thing whereas before it was crispy text on top of a [TS]

01:48:07 ◼   ► background color that the app designer it changes what it means to pick a [TS]

01:48:11 ◼   ► desktop picture before it was ok what do I want to see when I got nothing open [TS]

01:48:14 ◼   ► like I'm done like let's say like as you complete your what you have to do today [TS]

01:48:19 ◼   ► you keep closing windows in your closing tabs and you know you can quit your [TS]

01:48:23 ◼   ► email cuz I'm not gonna check it again and now I've got nothing and i'm looking [TS]

01:48:26 ◼   ► at my desktop and this is a picture that makes me happy that's all you had to do [TS]

01:48:31 ◼   ► when you chose your desktop now you've gotta pick something that's going to [TS]

01:48:35 ◼   ► make like you said like make the sidebar in your email client look good when you [TS]

01:48:40 ◼   ► don't even see the desktop and then there's no point have to have to do to [TS]

01:48:43 ◼   ► to put in ATP times I have to do some follow-up because one guy was on last [TS]

01:48:46 ◼   ► week I English we talked about this week clearly confused the hell out of a lot [TS]

01:48:51 ◼   ► of people into because we're talking about the way that if you have like a [TS]

01:48:55 ◼   ► stack of white windows just like text edit documents and then you have mail in [TS]

01:49:00 ◼   ► front of them in the sidebar of male behind it just a white window it still [TS]

01:49:06 ◼   ► takes a tent from the desktop that's what does in terms of not merely making [TS]

01:49:13 ◼   ► any kind of logical sense in the world of physics we weren't what everybody [TS]

01:49:17 ◼   ► seems to think we said was that it doesn't take any cues from what's right [TS]

01:49:21 ◼   ► behind it so if you it's mostly it's mostly what's behind yes but that [TS]

01:49:25 ◼   ► touches the death it's mostly what's behind it directly in the window behind [TS]

01:49:29 ◼   ► it so if you have like a real vibrant purple [TS]

01:49:32 ◼   ► image you know grimace from McDonalds in the window behind you and your mail is [TS]

01:49:39 ◼   ► in front of it you're gonna have a purple sidebar but I end up a lot of [TS]

01:49:44 ◼   ► times with a lot of weight Windows you know editing documents and stuff like [TS]

01:49:47 ◼   ► that or email client or iChat [TS]

01:49:50 ◼   ► but but but God forbid you have like a safari window with it was like a dark [TS]

01:49:54 ◼   ► black blob and then some white stuffed in the black blobs are showing right and [TS]

01:49:58 ◼   ► if it's not like it not like an entirely black window where it just makes the [TS]

01:50:01 ◼   ► whole thing look great if it's just right in the middle [TS]

01:50:04 ◼   ► there's looks like there's so much I see it in the Messages app every day with [TS]

01:50:08 ◼   ► when I have transparency on because there's my blue messages are always on [TS]

01:50:14 ◼   ► the side and so up at the top right there's this blue propeller about it in [TS]

01:50:19 ◼   ► a ranging from I can enter to that doesn't extend across the whole bar and [TS]

01:50:23 ◼   ► it bothers the hell out of me [TS]

01:50:25 ◼   ► his analogy is that an ATP last night but probably should also put their view [TS]

01:50:30 ◼   ► but didn't solve this section on extensions and I go I go through a [TS]

01:50:35 ◼   ► little bit about the the old days of extensions where they were just invade [TS]

01:50:39 ◼   ► the memory space if you have the OS or other applications and even unto the [TS]

01:50:42 ◼   ► last 10 days just like you know every app launches loaded the scripting [TS]

01:50:45 ◼   ► edition which just like runs wild in its memory space and does some crazy hacked [TS]

01:50:49 ◼   ► you know and able window shade or whatever it's gonna do right and the [TS]

01:50:53 ◼   ► idea that you would write a program is an application developer and then you [TS]

01:50:58 ◼   ► would tested and debugged make sure it works correctly and then handed to [TS]

01:51:01 ◼   ► somebody and then someone else you'd never met write a program that invades [TS]

01:51:05 ◼   ► your programming changes the way it works and causes a bug in your program [TS]

01:51:08 ◼   ► and you get like a support ticket early hey your your your text editor has a bug [TS]

01:51:12 ◼   ► in like 10 I told us that doesn't like oh I'm running this extension and and [TS]

01:51:16 ◼   ► this thing written by someone you never met invade your application and changes [TS]

01:51:19 ◼   ► the way it behaves and now it's buggy you got to fix it since nineteen tenable [TS]

01:51:23 ◼   ► way to develop software because how can you like the halting problem how can I [TS]

01:51:27 ◼   ► know what's going to happen when some program I've never seen before invades [TS]

01:51:30 ◼   ► my programming changes the way its behaviour impossible for me to write a [TS]

01:51:33 ◼   ► quote unquote correct bug free program in this environment to develop the [TS]

01:51:37 ◼   ► designer equivalent of that is going to make an application to make it look as [TS]

01:51:42 ◼   ► good as I want but I have no control over what windows are behind [TS]

01:51:44 ◼   ► called the person desktop background as I just gotta trust Apple to try to make [TS]

01:51:48 ◼   ► this into something readable and then I get back to the you know why why is it [TS]

01:51:51 ◼   ► what is it about the sidebar like I can i can i can buy pull-down menus I can [TS]

01:51:56 ◼   ► buy sheets I can buy you know transient things that are floating in but the [TS]

01:51:59 ◼   ► sidebar seems so a part of the content of the application like maybe who has a [TS]

01:52:04 ◼   ► slide out drawers like the old style one that I can say with transient and maybe [TS]

01:52:07 ◼   ► should be translucent but there is nothing about sidebars that says to me [TS]

01:52:10 ◼   ► please tell me what's behind you like it they're filled with text like their [TS]

01:52:15 ◼   ► source list therefore text that has to be readable I do not want to be [TS]

01:52:18 ◼   ► distracted by the other stuff there and so i mean i i know there's no option to [TS]

01:52:23 ◼   ► turn it off except to turn off everywhere and I pretty much at this [TS]

01:52:25 ◼   ► point I feel like I can on board with the way they used translucency even with [TS]

01:52:29 ◼   ► the stupid tendering and all the drop them everywhere sidebar just like a [TS]

01:52:33 ◼   ► bridge too far the other thing I don't get I don't get the other use of it I [TS]

01:52:37 ◼   ► don't get the in window transparency you know like and Safari Chrome at the top [TS]

01:52:41 ◼   ► of this far away does the little bit more justification that of their own [TS]

01:52:46 ◼   ► doing as i said im pretty sure I said this interview once they made scrollbars [TS]

01:52:49 ◼   ► invisible the only way you have any indication that their stuff above or [TS]

01:52:53 ◼   ► below is if you see something truncated or if you kind of see this damn you know [TS]

01:52:57 ◼   ► wavy image of things that are above or below and that bothers me less because [TS]

01:53:01 ◼   ► two largest and have a stronger boundaries like the toolbar buttons [TS]

01:53:06 ◼   ► themselves don't let stuff go through on them so they're gonna be you know like a [TS]

01:53:10 ◼   ► dark markings on like backgrounds well-defined there's nothing in the [TS]

01:53:13 ◼   ► toolbar itself and I need to read this can become illegible and Mike just [TS]

01:53:19 ◼   ► scrolling through the review I can kinda see the reason to do this and it's one [TS]

01:53:22 ◼   ► of the one of the justifications of philosophy section is that this looks [TS]

01:53:25 ◼   ► nice like that it's fashion that its athletics and if you scroll through my [TS]

01:53:29 ◼   ► yosemite review and when I look at some of these screenshots I think some of [TS]

01:53:33 ◼   ► them are really pretty like the multiple docs for the different backgrounds or [TS]

01:53:37 ◼   ► even when I'm trying to show something that i think is a negative like the same [TS]

01:53:41 ◼   ► safari window just change tabs and it radically changes with the entire [TS]

01:53:44 ◼   ► interest looks like the pages are has curled up in the scrollbar that's as a [TS]

01:53:49 ◼   ► little bit crazy but the images beautiful I think like this has the most [TS]

01:53:52 ◼   ► interesting screenshots because of you know I I purposely tried to show things [TS]

01:53:57 ◼   ► in both [TS]

01:53:58 ◼   ► in the worst light like get the most ecstatically pleasing but show at the [TS]

01:54:01 ◼   ► extremes are i think is a really interesting thing to do it and but I can [TS]

01:54:06 ◼   ► only excuse it as long as it doesn't starting pitching on usability when does [TS]

01:54:10 ◼   ► impinge on usability a good reason other than in some scenarios looks really good [TS]

01:54:15 ◼   ► I know your scenario it's ugly and you can't turn it off and some scenario [TS]

01:54:18 ◼   ► looks good and that that hostile policy and I just I guess I like the in window [TS]

01:54:26 ◼   ► transparency a little bit more than the behind window transparency because [TS]

01:54:29 ◼   ► there's a little bit more like you said with the scrolling and a sense of their [TS]

01:54:33 ◼   ► stuff up there there's some kind of logic to it where is the sidebar [TS]

01:54:37 ◼   ► transparency is just seems mindless to me so I think and I've been as I've gone [TS]

01:54:42 ◼   ► full time I think probably going to run with the reduced transparency option and [TS]

01:54:52 ◼   ► yeah and that bothers me because I think I mean does as I point out in their view [TS]

01:54:56 ◼   ► it it does look ok like that like it and still as handsome it shows that this is [TS]

01:55:00 ◼   ► a sturdy design that does not rely on transparency parlor tricks to look nice [TS]

01:55:03 ◼   ► because it looks looks perfectly nice and its solid especially on gretna [TS]

01:55:07 ◼   ► screens with certified airlines about things that contrast is still a little [TS]

01:55:10 ◼   ► bit low but otherwise it shows that this they're you know they're sturdy bones [TS]

01:55:14 ◼   ► underneath this design but it's a shame to give up all the transparency of the [TS]

01:55:18 ◼   ► text I like just to save that one that I don't think the bosnian transparency and [TS]

01:55:22 ◼   ► accessibility preference pane and those things are there to help make the [TS]

01:55:27 ◼   ► interface more usable for people who need that but I feel like designers are [TS]

01:55:32 ◼   ► not spending as much over what things look like with that turned on by [TS]

01:55:35 ◼   ► third-party an apple designers like that it that it looks clunkier that looks [TS]

01:55:39 ◼   ► more like like the way that Windows like wow I just do this and I'm sure to look [TS]

01:55:43 ◼   ► funny look at it as like details are right there sweating over what it looks [TS]

01:55:46 ◼   ► like in the default mode I don't think people are sweating over how any [TS]

01:55:49 ◼   ► application looks with reduced transparency like right down to the [TS]

01:55:52 ◼   ► overlays for volume changing with the corners don't have transparency in some [TS]

01:55:56 ◼   ► situations are you saying that I don't think I should be [TS]

01:56:02 ◼   ► so now I now can you leave the house in on like it's it's totally counter to the [TS]

01:56:06 ◼   ► Super apple nerd aesthetic everything has to be beautiful and elegant like [TS]

01:56:09 ◼   ► that stuff like that is around if you know where to look for it because he has [TS]

01:56:13 ◼   ► accessibility is not meant to be like it's it's first and foremost is supposed [TS]

01:56:16 ◼   ► to make it more usable at the expense of you know perfect aesthetic beauty so [TS]

01:56:21 ◼   ► there is one of your expenses made you think more about that when you change [TS]

01:56:25 ◼   ► the volume and you get that they would call it the temporary over the rounded [TS]

01:56:30 ◼   ► corners are just filled in with black as it transpired part of whatever that [TS]

01:56:36 ◼   ► thing I got the call that I bet that the bug that they'll fix but it's it's a [TS]

01:56:40 ◼   ► definite side but that type of thing like you would a file that is a bug hey [TS]

01:56:43 ◼   ► when I enables accessibility options this thing doesn't look as nice they're [TS]

01:56:47 ◼   ► gonna be like yeah but you know it's easier to see right stuff doesn't show [TS]

01:56:52 ◼   ► three right that's the point of accessibility future feel free to file [TS]

01:56:56 ◼   ► their bikes if they could close it is BS correctly I well I like you said I would [TS]

01:57:02 ◼   ► love to be able to pick and choose and just turn it off in the sidebar because [TS]

01:57:04 ◼   ► I like the transparency on the menus I think it it makes it looks good and it [TS]

01:57:09 ◼   ► makes sense to me that it's temporary you know it's it's just a little thing [TS]

01:57:13 ◼   ► that while I choose this menu command is floating over my thing and now that [TS]

01:57:18 ◼   ► they're solid I just checked it right here in front of me it's doesn't look at [TS]

01:57:22 ◼   ► the text rendering changes especially not read the text rendering changes when [TS]

01:57:26 ◼   ► you go solid on the menus as well and the menus the thing about me about the [TS]

01:57:30 ◼   ► media's attention the desktop like I like the overlays like the volume change [TS]

01:57:34 ◼   ► when transparencies on the sort of Iowa 7 overlay when you put control center [TS]

01:57:38 ◼   ► from the but like it doesn't bring it doesn't pull any colors from your [TS]

01:57:41 ◼   ► desktop background just simply I am white slightly translucent with that [TS]

01:57:44 ◼   ► cool blur I wish them anywhere like that because all my desktop pictures are made [TS]

01:57:49 ◼   ► by pull-down menus uglier like I'm gonna have to change them even though I love [TS]

01:57:53 ◼   ► the pictures that are there just pick one that has a different dominant color [TS]

01:57:57 ◼   ► so that dominant color I can you know stomach with sign of an all white gold [TS]

01:58:01 ◼   ► diamond did you turn on [TS]

01:58:03 ◼   ► increase contrast haven't used it like that obviously turned on the screen I [TS]

01:58:09 ◼   ► feel like that one guy I know just saying it looks like system sex but it [TS]

01:58:13 ◼   ► looks awesome sex made by someone with not a lot of attention to detail has [TS]

01:58:16 ◼   ► things collide with each other in this no spaces between things they just sort [TS]

01:58:19 ◼   ► of drama the magic marker over the edges and don't read they don't change the [TS]

01:58:22 ◼   ► metrics so it's like crowded there's a whole bunch of things that I think look [TS]

01:58:26 ◼   ► better and a whole bunch of things that clearly look worse just in terms of [TS]

01:58:30 ◼   ► whether it's pleasing to me and I realize I guess this is it is under [TS]

01:58:34 ◼   ► accessibility for a reason I can actually see clearly how it is an [TS]

01:58:38 ◼   ► accessibility features for some people but I actually like some of the details [TS]

01:58:43 ◼   ► of it but there's others that you know I can't I don't know a kid rocket [TS]

01:58:46 ◼   ► full-time its and and the low contrast unlike basically the default by reading [TS]

01:58:52 ◼   ► a stupid Congress doesn't it remind you speaking about 25 like the days when [TS]

01:58:55 ◼   ► we're all using bitmap font and everything was likely you still do it [TS]

01:58:58 ◼   ► like a light grey text on a dark grey background and you know and and 10.4 [TS]

01:59:03 ◼   ► down a pixel thoughts and every like everything was super low energy you can [TS]

01:59:07 ◼   ► just make it so precious and beautiful but then when you when you move back [TS]

01:59:10 ◼   ► from the screen just faded into a uniform grey haze and you don't notice [TS]

01:59:13 ◼   ► it so much in Yosemite until you turn on increased contrast like whoa this [TS]

01:59:17 ◼   ► airlines now jump out at me and that is clear delineation than likely to our [TS]

01:59:21 ◼   ► buttons don't fade into the toolbar as much as they used to like it goes too [TS]

01:59:24 ◼   ► far in the other direction but you only noticed low contrast of Use Somebody [TS]

01:59:28 ◼   ► when you turn on the high ground and then turn it back off and I know that I [TS]

01:59:32 ◼   ► feel like I just my night vision went out and now everything is fading into [TS]

01:59:35 ◼   ► one big blur get one of the things that most surprised me about yosemite when [TS]

01:59:39 ◼   ► they unveiled at the BBC was that the general control system pressure where [TS]

01:59:47 ◼   ► you control the basic appearance stuff you know [TS]

01:59:50 ◼   ► graphite blue highlight color and stuff like that I I had my gut feeling was [TS]

01:59:55 ◼   ► that they were going to get rid of all that just as you know go more like Iowa [TS]

01:59:59 ◼   ► State we don't get the pic highlight color and I [TS]

02:00:01 ◼   ► unless you gonna get blue and you're gonna like it or the app is going to [TS]

02:00:05 ◼   ► override it you know get the pic whether you get lured grave as I like color you [TS]

02:00:10 ◼   ► don't get to pick the color that you know when you select tax what color is [TS]

02:00:14 ◼   ► the highlight of the texts that's the thing about increase contrast it changes [TS]

02:00:17 ◼   ► your head like yeah to something that I seemingly can't quite figure out how [TS]

02:00:22 ◼   ► what the rules are for I thought they were going to get rid of all that [TS]

02:00:26 ◼   ► because I thought that was sort of that such an old school consumer you know [TS]

02:00:32 ◼   ► feature you know that you get like the way Windows you still let you pick [TS]

02:00:41 ◼   ► everything you know you've fully designer blue with white trim or you can [TS]

02:00:47 ◼   ► make Windows look just truly got awful but they'd like to do it but the thing [TS]

02:00:51 ◼   ► they have in their the things they have in there are there for reasons that [TS]