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00:00:10 ◼ ► live staying on a TPC you've got to be on time people are in there in refresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10">TS</a>]
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00:00:40 ◼ ► move which is also your move is like nine o'clock rolls around or over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/40">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► were doing and you realize oh I forgot about that and you immediately petition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/45">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► for his teammate delay and then you have a five minute delay after the 15 minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/49">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► you sound like you're in a good mood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/53">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► sure sure why not week so I finished listening to now probably an episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/63">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► behind those you guys probably recorded last night for context we are we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/72">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► recording right now it's Thursday October 23rd you guys probably did in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/76">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► ATP last night but it's not out yet so I might be biased but I did listen to last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/81">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► week's show you talked about 70 review we talk more about it yesterday and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/85">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► yesterday's episode as well so well I'll try not to venture into duplicating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/90">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► same story territory in 20 min say you know what I want to do you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/97">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► people time says things like the thing with all podcasts and you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/102">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► kind of like it's like a first draft of your thoughts are and you just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/108">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► on the spot and you start thinking about it and you start talking about it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/112">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► know I do I can I ramble in Psych given time to think about that like I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/116">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► better and then obviously the ultimate as you like to write it I can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/121">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► figure out what they really think but just so you know anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/125">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► give me a second chance to get it right totally in in a big picture was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/130">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► about this I don't know why because I guess it's it's just the way you human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/136">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► mind works but somehow ten-point 10 feels like a milestone in like 10 even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/139">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► though it's not you know actually the 11th major version and it's the 12th I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/144">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► guess that you've reviewed because you did the public beta how many how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/150">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► Mac OS 10 reviews so I did Developer Preview to develop preview 3 developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/153">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► preview for public beta and and all the release is in there was also one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/159">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► thrown in there that weren't really reviews they were just like random like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► head just went to Macworld and here's some more stuff you might want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► about aqua you know but if you want to go by the releases started ep 22 yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/169">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► and I can't remember what I think I played with the BMW right up so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/175">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► thinking about this and you mention this on ATP any money online but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/182">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► chance you're thinking that maybe this last one just published last week maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/185">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► last when you gonna do you do next year's yeah you know we can get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/189">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► that a little bit later but I just thinking in and nice even round 10 I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/195">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► think podcasts in general in you having been doing one regularly either ATP or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/200">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► choke on critical it seems like forever but it's not like wendover critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/207">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► stern I think like twenty eleven years but to me there's this huge difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/219">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► as you know I knew when I got to know each other you know when we first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/226">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► started emailing goes a long time before a match but we are at least as email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/229">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► before down fireball started working at you're still working out some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/233">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► story and ATP you gave me my first Campillo BBEdit or whatever the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/237">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► version without them like it previously had commenced work to buy it from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► work but you work to bare bones is a free copy of yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/246">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► no wonder I lasted their school is giving away the Surefire customers yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/251">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► i dont no we have we've known each other since before there is even during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► fireball and and it's you know our interests are are are common first name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/263">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► aren't you know the fact that we're thinking exactly the same age even 1973 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/271">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► I don't look old but I feel like the universe was dead was destined for us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/276">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► know each other somehow like it just seems like it seems like no matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/285">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► you know how the days of enrolled somewhere you know in the intervening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/289">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► years we're going to get to know each other through the small world back then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/293">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► like the Mac nerds on the web it was just like it was very well using IE five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/297">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► and experimenting with CSS and reading zelman and like an apple doesn't go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/302">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► of business and before that we're all read and you know we could you talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/308">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► about last night cast and Mac user macworld like it was such a small world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/311">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► like if we don't if we both got the same Macworld Conference of Bollywood have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/316">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► bumped into that's almost certain it was it was they were small back then it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/320">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► you know you would inevitably meet everybody you wouldn't have that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/325">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► you did you see the same people year after year it's not like to be deputy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/329">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► see where it now it's like so crazy and you go and it takes some of your best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/332">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► friends you don't even see them here like hadn't even even run into someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/337">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► so and it's just a very different but as someone who's always been a huge fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/340">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► your work at ours these these massive book-length reviews it's such a profound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/348">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► change now that your podcasting because they used to be that John Syracuse says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/353">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► as a brand was something you got sporadically almost like on an annual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/360">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► schedule yet to wait a year in between but when you did it would be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/366">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► how different it is now that you have a weekly outlet and we all get plenty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/372">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► John it's so different it's hard to imagine going back to that I had for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/379">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► while and ours when they're doing like staff blogs or whatever there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► period and I'm always surprised when I go back and look at it like there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/390">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► period where I was blogging if you want to call it that pretty regularly on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/393">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► staff blogs like I'm amazed at the number of things I wrote there I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► what I even relate it's like you know it's not that the volume that you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/401">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► out a regular basis but you know how it is but you can't remember what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/404">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► you wrote and I of course I remember all my reviews caused a big punctuated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/407">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► things and there's a few special stories in between there and retrospectives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/412">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► I did like a game review and all sorts of crap you know but I can remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/415">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► those but then there was just like at one point I was doing one or two pagers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/418">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► every couple of weeks for ours and I look back on that body work and I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/422">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► happy with an ad like it is just like it was never there was there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/427">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► official or foul it wasn't what I do now it's just sort of ramble on a weekly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/432">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► basis we're just off the cuff or whatever it certainly wasn't the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/436">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► you know review it was kind of in between he and I guess podcasting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/441">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► totally filled that role now because i dont have you know Twitter and plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/446">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► podcasting have destroyed my ability to block not that I had much of an ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/450">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► to do it to begin with but I may get back into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/454">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► views and I'm not sure you're meant for it I don't know I feel like you've found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/457">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► your thing that is more it's it's like I always say that to me and everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/463">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► life in general rule it's the extremes where things are most interesting to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/469">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► like a daring fireball the best posts are mailinglist 12 I think of just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/474">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► word dad or two words you know good luck with that or something like that or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/478">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► big long one thousand multi thousand-word its when I have a post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/484">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► 300 words then I know I'm in trouble that i've you know either should be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/491">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► to make this point much more succinctly or being lazy and I need to go deeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/496">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► and I feel like with you it's you know you've found your your your I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/500">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► going to spend a lot of time on this poor man it podcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/507">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► you'd like to spend all the time was just five more like less prepared it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/511">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► like more more thinking out loud and you know going back and forth on the blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/515">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► format like if I didn't have an actual their regular day job took my time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/519">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► think the thing I like about that is not so much that any individual posts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/523">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► anything special but you sort of build up a body of work with like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/527">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► reference points like a very frequently I find myself thinking back to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/531">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► I wish I had something that I could point to about this and podcasting as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/536">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► you know it's harder to like it's hard to ask people to go go back to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/541">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► thing and I get to give them a time stamping out to look up and find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► where everything is well as I can just point to a blog post I talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/548">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► specific issue in a one pager and you can get my take on it there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/551">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► individual one pagers not a big deal 12 pages but you know I have few of them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/555">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► hypercritical echo I i refer to them frequently and a lot of times I wish the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/560">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► things I had said and worked out on the podcast let me do the same thing as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/564">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► as Marco the pentium either write about it for us and talk about a podcast talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/567">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► about enforcing that becomes a post your website and I find it frustrating that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/572">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► can't point like the podcast or so invisible like they're they're femoral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/578">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► and you can't like a point people into the mood seems like asking more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/583">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► just having them read a paragraph or two on a web page that you send them so I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/586">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► wish I had more time to blog is available I don't like I'm not forcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/591">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► myself to do it or whatever but I think a lot of the reason that you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/596">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► kind of weather blog terrible offense that the arizona racist are coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/601">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► yearly at first it was like they would just be quiet period where I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/604">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► write anything but I'm just doing a review in a quiet period expanded to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► fill the whole year and so it's like well I guess on doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/611">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► Twitter and worry about writing reviews yea well said how do you have any word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/614">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► was your your review has to this last is like the same about post as you follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/626">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► me on Twitter it's like this I think this was last year I can look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/633">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► number its like 26 K 27 case I'm like that is that a hypocritical yeah as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/637">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► dot Coco com guy wants too much money do we get for the best but we got the taiko [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/644">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► somehow it read like somehow this top-level domains are such a weird thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/652">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► because the whole thing is so gross and never should have been exposed to end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/658">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► filename extensions but they've become part of the world we live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/663">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► dot com is just invisible right at somebody has whatever dot com and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/670">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► just it's like the the nothing to me even though getting a dot com is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/675">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► difficult cuz everything and everything was taken by the end of the nineties in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/680">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► the intervening years something about . Co which is people who don't know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/684">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► the nation columbia's top-level domain it reads like dot com and I you notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/689">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► it how is not always you know but it has that same effect of like you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/696">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► accepted that's why I can't even remember that hypocritical guilty it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/701">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► kind of like a in our web 2.0 we like Flickr really bossy are kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/705">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► comedy Bosque am kind of twee sort of precious merger mania really I just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/710">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► it because you know their extensions far worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/717">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► died us' you know . business but plumbing whatever they're so bad I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/723">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► can't believe some of those anyway if you went to the site you'll see it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/730">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► this it's my like the format of Denver the past three years it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/736">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► template and I just changed numbers like mad libs and at the bottom of steps so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► 27,000 word what's the I think that it's like the average size of a novel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/743">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► somewhere around sixty thousand words so it's truly book length and the weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/750">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► thing to me is that they have you settled in around this 2527 case size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/757">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► for the past like three or four not through any time just over to my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► business that's how it worked out you know it's you know like that about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/765">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► much work they can do on an annual basis on Mac OS 10 and it's more like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/769">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► how much I feel like I can or should write because there's more I could write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/776">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► about it every time I always ran outta time and I would like to hold giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/780">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► sections but I was like I prioritize them I said well yeah I'm interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/784">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► that and I think I could write another few thousand words about it but would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/789">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► devalue it adds to the review and the interested as you be worth the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/793">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► put in you know and how much time I got schedule is because we only have so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/797">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► time to it it still kind of compresses at the end there's only so much you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/801">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► write about when things don't work and they're in the broken in a bit and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/805">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► has made final decisions he got a you know the final bit up to come down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/808">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► so if we added them all together and I know that the sizes are different for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/814">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► some of the old ones but it's it's about 15 reviews a different talking to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/824">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► 11th number version and you did said you did D P two D P 34 so it's fourteen or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/829">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► fifteen it's an enormous body of work and really truly is and I know that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/834">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► not one single piece of war that if you read them all back to back there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/840">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► sort of repetition that would be going on because they follow a certain formula [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/844">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► but I do think I think it's such as it's such an interesting testimony to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/849">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► like twenty years from now and take over that they'll be out there for them to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/855">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► look at and remember you know where things are that's what I hope people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/861">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► like to thank for young people give it to him they already done to hear about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/866">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► look back on our great works and tremble and how often would we refer to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/870">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► similarly detailed review of the system to from 1985 you know the Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/875">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► anything like that are you know somewhere somebody would need it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/881">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► this bill for me those of ever go back and look at those levels they just cant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/886">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► standard just like it's terrible I hope you feel the same way but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/890">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► writing I'm like holy cow this has been like she's always like I guess I knew I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/894">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► liked it was it was certainly more casual back then and I was aware US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/899">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► Ryder and the combination of the two is just and really I don't know like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/902">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► didn't know what was important than one was in the things I focused on it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/908">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► seemed inane have a lot of difficult that a lot of people are going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/911">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► back and collect all these together into one big thing the most painful part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/915">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► it would be that if I was to do that and you start reading you start reading and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/918">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► stuff are in 1999 think is not good just not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/922">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► I mean I hope I we feel that way I kind of you know I kind of feel like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/927">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► he gets to get to a certain point and I just think everything alright described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► as soon as I write it and you know I just make as good as they can in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► time allotted to move on but it's like programming like if i dont have a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/939">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► back at the code I'm writing this year like 10 years from now I don't look back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/942">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► at the GoToMeeting this year and think it sucks I have done I can totally see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/945">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► that I look back I did learn this and there's a get it wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/948">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► think it was one of the great titans of modern computer science see their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/956">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► current again or rich you're one of those Bell Labs guys who said something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► about the debugging is twice as hard as programming and so if you write code as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/965">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► you'll never be able to debug it because you need you need an intellect twice as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/975">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► great you need you need to write your own code like a half wit so that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/979">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► you do by guitar when you ride for me personally when I return to it that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/984">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► can understand what the hell's going on I know that saying I understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/988">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► sentiment behind it but the logic in the same makes no sense and it's mostly BS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/993">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► and the details but in broad strokes trying to say the idea is that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/996">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► later you'll come back to your own code and not understand it and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► entirely true and so what he's trying to say is to mitigate that don't try to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► make your life harder by doing things that are difficult to understand even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► now when you're in the midst of totally informed my use of comments is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1014">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► comment I used to clear of course cuz I was a teenager and early twenties and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► of course I didn't want to write any comments at all and I only did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► because when I might see as professors had to view comments are automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► so I just commenter stupid you know the the smartest teenagers comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► restating logic of his life had one done exactly where as the light that went on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► even I don't write much code anymore but the light down on eventually was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► comments are like time travel you're talking to your future self who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► utterly confused as to why you would do this seeming there's this doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► like it's necessary to tell your future self here's why you're doing it why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► want to keep it and it's made my code at least for my own self maintenance it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► made it all the difference in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► yeah there's a couple days like the early phase several things I don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► comments cuz I'm writing this now and I understand or not is that in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► in the second phase is realizing that's not the case and you start trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► come to be known about it could come in sorry and I think the third phase is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► finally realizing that if you write the code in a sensible way you only need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► comments on the tricky part you should minimize that and when you do need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► comment on the tricky part you know how to write it in a way that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► illuminating rather than either the tricky part where you're doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► pretty clever and that it's you know a month goes by it's gonna be out of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► head how you pull that off cos you're in the zone or for me a lot of times it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► the you're working around something stupid and the workaround makes if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► didn't know about the stupid thing that work around looks like it's what gets us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► why would you ever do this is done just you know don't do that and running for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► your future self easier than running for other people in your organization where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► your programming has lots of other programmers at the very least when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► you're ready for yourself you can you you can retrace your steps and you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► arrive at the same conclusion again but other people don't do that because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► react differently to the same stimulus basically so far other people were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► trying to do is you have to put the wise but also like what is the broader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► context as whole thing what is even going on here are there any assumptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► that are understated because you assume there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► their obvious to everybody but won't be obvious to someone new year from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► yeah there's like writing comment is basically just basically writing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► it's the same you have to communicate to people in plain language but they reduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► ambiguity like two different to different goals different purposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► different audience but it is writing and that's why programmers are so bad at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► because their skill sets tend to not cluster frequently per people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► happy and comfortable programming are not happy and comfortable writing prose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► yeah I guess it's true that a lot of times and I know I know where the where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► the intersection of the blaze the programmers who who are good writer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1194">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► brett Arends a great example rich so yeah i know i know i mean do we all need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► to read their blog is another great example man when he doesn't write much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► but when he does it is so sick cent and to the point and it's it's exquisite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► like I I often refer back I have a copy of the BBEdit to point to manual the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► first public version of BB at it and it's just like a model of clarity is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► such a good piece of technical writing did he write that 10 parts in there goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► the couple of other credits but there's a little what would you call blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► now it's sort of like why does BBEdit exist whyyy on the Mac would you wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► programmers text editor who would ever wanted it more than 32 Kb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► it's more of its more like a personal mission statement for BB it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► just terrific I said actually see if he'd let me see if I can re-run it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► something I think it'd be an interesting especially now that be at 11 so maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► should see about getting in on the internet as I think it stands up lo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► these many operating systems later he writes if you met him you can't help but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► read it because they're such a percent the mannerisms and the pacing the way he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► would say those things that comes through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► I just saw somebody tweet tweet the other day at a time it was to both me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► and you but to a couple of this where they relate now that we all have podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► they can't help but read everything we right in our own voices and I was here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► that and and I it's kind of nice was it means a lot of our pockets but also kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► of cringe because I can't do writing is very good to be better at the house but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► i wanna way smarter when I write because I got all this runaway and I could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► know speaking who knows what the hell comes out but writing I got my chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► right and so it's almost a shame that they know you know stumbling it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► are behind the words like riding a secret weapon I got all the time in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► world to figure out where this is going to be and is no wasted words in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► stupid idealism and obviously again with longer views at a certain point it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► gotta be like that that's that's the thing about this phone reviews all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► stuff like early on and still to this day of MIS 10 reviews I'm a slave to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► getting out whatever idea it is in my head I have a point to make something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► say about something and I have like 17 points to make and 17 things to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► about it I want to get them all out and I sacrifice the quality of the writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► many times because I'm like this this could be said more elegantly in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► different way but it wouldn't have this one extra little bit of new on tonight I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► talk to myself like what do you care that one like this point is sufficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► you don't need to go into this other details like no I wanted and so I make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► some awkward sense and I put that other point in there and it's why I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► myself for doing it but a lot of times it's like an overriding thing is say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► what I want to say and secondarily try to say it in a reasonable way and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► not just another way to make good writing but that's a lot of times when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► let's take a break I'm going to thank our first sponsor back for a second time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► it's a good friends at Casper I get my member from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► it was the one with Chuck Berry but caspar was a sponsor and had a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► response craziest idea i i when I first heard this crazy state in Orem it you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► online at high quality mattresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► you put on your been really really good prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► seems like a crazy thing to buy on the internet but in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► eventually we're gonna buy everything on the internet looking to buy cars on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► internet you go there they have it it's two technologies they call it just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► right thing just the right balance it's two different technologies latex phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► and memory that they put together a special combination that they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► just right you don't have to sit there there's not a whole bunch of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► they they did it for us there in the mattress experts they've designed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► really good mattress I've had regular I've tried and tried to regular memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► foam mattress before a knife fight random way to like the way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► they make an indentation perfect for your body it feels like I'm making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► their mattresses in like that always just enough that memory stuff that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► comfortable but it doesn't you don't feel like you're sinking into it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► it's crazy did you get one of these John Deere did was it casey you got a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► case ago we were thinking of getting one just because we know so they sent me one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► is really do in this country show they send one and it so how does a mattress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1486">TS</a>]
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00:24:55 ◼ ► small you can't believe it but it's because it's like to kind of phone they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► like vacuum sealed the mattress and it ships in what is still decidedly a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► large package it is way smaller than a a mattress so put it in the room here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► gotta sleep in it then open the box they've got instructions that tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► exactly how to do it and let it expand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► but it works it is absolutely amazing it works it feels a great mattress I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► liked it and the prices are so much less than the prices you pay for mattresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► in the real world it's ridiculous because the whole mattress industry is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► it's just that it's just like the word partner story all over again where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► like like a cartel that controls the whole industry they deliberately make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► very very difficult to comparison shop cross stores because each store even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► its from the same brand like sealy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► havoc six different Seeley's the next door you go to has six different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► ceilings and they all have different names even though they're technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► the same mattress because they do this to make it really hard for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► comparison shop and know whether you're paying a good price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► casper cuts out all that crap and just so you great mattresses good price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► typical price for a new mattress is well over 1500 bucks casper mattresses cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► between five hundred thats the twin size and 954 a king size mattress 950 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► under $1000 for a top tier mattress you save hundreds and hundreds of dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► and it's completely risk-free they have free delivery and returns within a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► hundred day period so three months to sleep on the thing and if you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► it they'll pay to send it back no idea how that works I kept mine quite sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► how old is sending the full size mattress works but they take care of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► for you and I believe it risk-free own last point one of me died in this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► made in America made america mattresses so where do you go to find out more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► apparently a whole bunch of guys bomb addresses the last time sponsorship ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1622">TS</a>]
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00:27:30 ◼ ► bucks and they're going to donate 50 bucks to a charity of my choice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► that's how do the same charity I did the last time the food allergy and fights at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► work that my son and wife raised a lot of money for food allergies or get great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► great mattresses go check them out at Casper sleep dot com slash talk-show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► mattresses on the internet what the hell next year and also are a team already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► buying cars yeah I guess you can buy new cars I think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► speaking a big box as shown up my arm action of today so I started i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► day one so must have been a week ago of course I gotta build order and it said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► three to five days and had a target ship date of October 24th to 28th and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► it was a wide range because it was over a weekend I did like 30 bucks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► expedited shipping so I checked last night before I went to bed and it said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► you know I got a notice that my iMac was ready and it was in China and then at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► ten o'clock in the morning today my doorbell rang and it was here so from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► what I went to bed last night it was in China and it and I am it was at my door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► which is crazy magic of air traffic can't help but think that when they told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► me it was in China it was already really over the pacific but still it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► a kind of a standard and a lot of people may get their pictures of their boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► arriving so first batch came quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► everybody wants to know i guess i talked about here's a review eventually but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► dont by Max real and then you even mentioned it on ATP like I just just now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► replaced 2008 MacBook Pro that I'd upgraded to an SSD at some point which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► couple more years of life but it was really really aging and my desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► display as you know it's it's it's like a 2004 20 inch Cinema Display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► Syrian 04 as reckless as I am buying a new iPhone every single year the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► opposite with Max I like to get one accident and then use it until it until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1795">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► it ridiculous field now you gonna find out if you have any glaring their room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► because I'm looking at the 23 interaction and that it's Matt and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► know what you don't know if you have any series Claire issues if you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► using a matte screen for the past hour many years you'll find out now you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► your face when you sit down in front of your an iMac that was that's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► those things where I think they've gotten better at it and I know that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► it's the sort of thing you can write about them they can advertise be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► have to see it the anti glare at the thing that they've done with the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► iPad there is pretty interesting but i wanna know why didn't he to the new iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► 20 knots not laminated I think think the reason that in laminated I assume is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► maybe it's just hard to eliminate some of that but you know you know how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► you take the glass often in the screen is behind it and they landed them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► together I guess you would like to take the screen off when you opened it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► then you have to like disconnect the cables or whatever interests maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► make it weird to disassemble I don't know but anyway laminated together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► so you've got that air gap which increases the glare and also that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► where the dust gets caught you ever had to bring those are two of two to pet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► peeves that you and I share together I do not like glare on light displays and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► I do not like she noise so I'm pretty pretty pretty satisfied I'm pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► that it's gonna be I didn't take it out of the box I had too much to do today so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► I did I was ready for it but I'm pretty excited that it's not going to be noisy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► I'm kind of glad to have the Apple 24 inch display and working on the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► one that was kind of like the iMac touchscreen works that looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► Thunderbolt Display by 24 inches and it was a predates it but it's not the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► thing air gap and the screen in an office with you know fluorescent lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► and also had things in there are reflection things but the compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► all my coworkers displays which like these delicate ViewSonic things are even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► like their their laptop displays and stuff just the brightness and viewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► angle like that they're ridiculous brightness of these things have the LED [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► backlit screens you never crack on to the brain was a regular house but in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► office setting we're just you know the fluorescent lights are everywhere is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► also super bright the ability to crack your screen up can really power through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► any other sort of Glarus just it's so much easier to see thanks to my screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► than anybody around a look at their screens and you can't see it as a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► because everything is so damn in money so there are advantages to this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► type of design Mauritius crystal-clear visa glass and a super bright screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► behind it that worst case you can just crank it up against my wife has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► wonderful display right behind me and I look at all the time and I know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► really nice too so I'm gonna be ok with the screen like the one you've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► your iMac yeah the thing that makes him feel pretty good about it is that ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► with the glare on the current MacBooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► at least the rain and one that I have now does it does a laminated to there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► are maybe they are I think they are thinking because I think that my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► impression when they first had the red-nosed 15 actually back at WNBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► overlooking Jason Stolz whatever it was like the colors were like up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► surface of the same type of thing he got with the iPhone 4 and yeah I guess he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► may be that they keep the whole lid so then seriously seriously well I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► feel like that I i remember when it was sort of a many years it was a maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► minds around three or four year period where there is like this great divide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► between for laptops at least glossy and matte displays and Apple stuck with Matt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► and hope PC industry went glossy and every time I go to Starbucks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► something and they'd see people using Windows PCs just be flabbergasted at how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► like reflective their displays are and then Apple started offering it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► a choice i know i three years were you when you buy a new era I guess it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► even my books yet but you get a choice between man and that's one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► I never hesitated for a second it was of course I want that I think he remembers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► I know what the PC people did for their glossy ones they didn't do what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► has come to you now I just have a clear piece of glass on top of LCD screen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► think maybe Apple's first glossy screens but certainly also the PC glossy screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► sort of kicked off a thing for plastic but it was like super shiny plastic a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► novice polycarbonate or something like that but it had kind of like a sticky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► wavy kind of look instead of what you get from piece of glass because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► dead flat and like stiff you know i mean and that made the screens looking not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► only shiny but also cheap and I seem to recall Apple's first class he just was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► being like that too and that's why I was like who in the world would ever want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► that just looks awful when they switch to the big glass big heavy piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► glass and metal is heavier and it was a great nap is huge air gap at least that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► look a little bit classier to me like more diverse a more honest materials in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► 01950 yellow glass we're gonna do that for years that that's settled things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► down a little bit but but even then and a lot of people who got the matte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► display just just for reflection reasons yeah I totally did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► so funny though that's is that that used to be at them and I'm still in awe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► because my display my desktop displays so ancient and it's literally 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► old in 2004 soon after its like a relic I have to say it was money well spent I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► don't know you stayed with 20 and resolution probably die i feel myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► just I wish I could get out of this 23 inch 1920 by 1200 I that's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2155">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► barely big enough to contain me but I feel boxed in though I always have time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► but eventually I got used to it and you know that your pared down like your work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► environment where you like you don't have as many windows open as you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► normally having just come to try to go into like I'm just gonna have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► central window is text editor and then off to the side of my web browser the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► budget ads and that's you know effectively with a 20 inch display it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► a lot like using just a supersized like the lunch tray MacBook you know the 730 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► likely to fullscreen fullscreen but for the most part everything I'm working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► this just in a stack of windows and after command tab between them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► does not you know it's not be enough to do a lot of side by side so I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► looking for a 27 inch and now I have over the many years honed by sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► like layering and positioning system for my windows which other people look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► can make heads or tails but when I am constrained that I start have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2214">TS</a>]
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00:37:21 ◼ ► to cycle through the windows I feel like I've been defeated by the lack of space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2241">TS</a>]
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00:37:30 ◼ ► screen so I can review it and I literally didn't even take it out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► box but having seen it firsthand last week and I know a lot and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2254">TS</a>]
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00:37:47 ◼ ► into replacing my desk at least six year old computer and a 10 year old display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2267">TS</a>]
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00:38:20 ◼ ► front unless they're using to manufacturers and he got the bride and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2300">TS</a>]
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00:38:29 ◼ ► know for a fact that I'm 99.99% sure that they sanity check the reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2309">TS</a>]
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00:39:06 ◼ ► standard put it back on and putting it back on his super hard like you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2346">TS</a>]
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00:39:21 ◼ ► not look like a nice even matter how much I try I can't I know how to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► now and have reached the age where I know what I mean to do to make it look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2367">TS</a>]
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00:40:30 ◼ ► wrapping paper or maybe you know maybe a little bit of column a saving money in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2430">TS</a>]
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00:40:53 ◼ ► full of it and you don't and just used the Sunday paper that was definitely I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2453">TS</a>]
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00:42:12 ◼ ► regular bananas because it'll it'll immunize people they come with organic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2532">TS</a>]
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00:45:26 ◼ ► it was a little weird and I touched on this with Phil Schiller was he flat or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► not and i got a bunch of emails and tweets from people what's up with phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► was he like you know something wrong with it seemed distracted as a yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► didn't notice it during the event I thought phil was just sort of downbeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► Phil not you know just like this is not a big deal file and then I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► a very deliberate I think it was sort of low key maybe I would say I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► distract well but he is always like that to some degree right he's the pace of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► his speaking and his presenting sounds always a little bit weird like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► maybe he was up next to people who are doing more fake enthusiasm about things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► or being but I just occasionally does seem distracted by stuff sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► feel like he's distracted thinking about the next thing he's gonna present even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► though he's been doing this for so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► like these think about the next 20 percent trying to remember the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► he's gonna do in the demo or whatever and he'll get to get inside his own head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► about that and like forget to fake enthusiasm about something that has seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2795">TS</a>]
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00:46:45 ◼ ► well as a low-key guy and this is the way he presents seen it so much they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2805">TS</a>]
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00:46:54 ◼ ► distracted from aid maybe he was afraid that if the timing of things this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► or after their road trip type thing now that the demo the guys who like that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► typo during his thing and they fixed it and post remember that oh yeah yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2825">TS</a>]
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00:47:19 ◼ ► scrapped the standoff you know what it was before that I don't have a splash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2839">TS</a>]
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00:47:26 ◼ ► remember I didn't notice it during the event let people pointed out was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2846">TS</a>]
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00:47:50 ◼ ► trip with its road trip and the guy shook his head and was pissed on himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2870">TS</a>]
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00:49:10 ◼ ► the other way where the Mac was first other products you know came later sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2950">TS</a>]
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00:49:19 ◼ ► thought it was especially telling daddy used it multiple times early on with Kim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► Cogan in like in the wrap up but I checked and of course they made two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► versions of it the first one was with an iPad their original iPad air and the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► they use at the end when Tim Cook closed the iPad is thinner and its know yet if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► you look at them side-by-side it very noticeable that they made a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► version with a thinner iPad even though they're only showing them from the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► and it at any given moment was it was impossible to tell which generation iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► was because it was from the side that they made the iPad Mac external case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► proportions change at all with the right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► yeah I can't tell cuz that's the one I would look for a replacement but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► they're exactly the same appeals to tell from the side yeah if they had slimmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► down or maybe you can tell from that angle that they're obviously very proud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► of it though when it first came up I read it just like I knew they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► trying to make a text book but it kinda look like Hello had been on my mind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► weird social network things like it's kinda looks like it could be letters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► they could spell things out without if they want to but that's not what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► the evolution thing is much closer analogy because it's from you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► hunch thing to the standing up things got a bit it's all swollen right even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► its yeah yeah i'm looking at them now side-by-side it did change the lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► on the iMac in the between the two slides and it makes the day after one it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► looks a little thinner but I looks to me that it's just that they change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► and there's less of it and show more of it and shadow this is a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► product like a different products like you know when they when they brought up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► the new iMac take a shot of it the lighting wasn't the same as when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► had that older iMac ticket out of it so it is a bit like I think you look too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► few people talking about this I mostly agree with whatever personal link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► there was talk saying like this is cute and all but doesn't communicate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► people who aren't already on board much of anything because regular people might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► not even understand what they're looking at it along with devices which like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► Apple was clearly excited and proud of it and we Apple's always nerds thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► it was clever and interesting and and because you had to find some interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► way to show these things that just like here's all the screens of black borders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► at Apple makes they come in different sizes right and you know one of them has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► a little stand at the end so coming up with new and interesting ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► photograph Apple's product line is a challenge that is mostly irrelevant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► people who either work at Apple heard in following up for a long time whereas if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► you throw that image up in front of regular people I'm not sure how well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► will communicate anything I read to them at all but I you know the audience for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► this Apple event and Iran is not the iPhone event this is the the lesser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► event in was in a town hall small room mostly of interest to Apple followers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► was appropriate venue for that image but not sure how I read it that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► found adherence to parts to the to the Apple presentations not necessary to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► have but there's two types of messages they seek to convey some are for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► mass market and they sometimes even showed that actual commercials that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► they're going to put on real TV show the commercial right there so it's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► what they're going to be pushing in their marketing to hundreds of millions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► of real people through advertising but then other parts are the as close as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► Apple will get to inside baseball and that's meant for like us in the media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► you know it's it's it's like they're playing a bank shot they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► get us to understand them so that when we write about them to the mass market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3175">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► that we're going to have it right that we we see what Apple is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► emphasize the parts that they think will tickle are the fancy of of the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► fans like they're going to show you the video but the manufacturing process and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► emphasize the beauty of one particular physical teacher so that in the hopes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► that when you write your review that feature the you might have overlooked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► you'll say well I just showed the whole five-minute video of a factory in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► johnnie obvious why we're all talking about it and some of its more prominent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► your mind this is basically basic you know talking to the press type of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► but they will never gonna show that video the Mac Pro factory during you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► don't care about the necro doll period and certainly not how or where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► built all the things that had about the unibody or whatever like think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► it's unibody and they can give the thing out or whatever they can to show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► you know computer controlled milling machines with the water going over them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► and just talk about it forever like when they came out with the MacBook Air and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► then see the subsequent universities they really hammer on that to try to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► the message across to the press who would then get the message across that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► hey I know you understand what unibody is and I know you're gonna see it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► piece involved but it actually makes a difference and it's a big deal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► that's that's the bank shot five-minute video on CNC milling machines and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► totally translates to a little bit extra emphasis when the first unibody process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► in the consumer-facing product reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► another that I just love this image and I think another after somebody compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► it somebody on Twitter compared it to one from one of the recent events that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► the surface but probably the surface pro 3 event and they had a table lined up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► their hands on area with Nokia phones and surface Pro's and some of them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► the table and some of them in a laptop stand and desktop computers and laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► computers you know up to you know whatever the HP equivalent of an iMac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► all of them running exactly the same start screen you know this blue blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► colored whatever they do whatever they rename Metro interface you know and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► what a country you know it's it's a philosophical contrast we're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► Microsoft misdirection where you get the exact same interface across phone from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► phone to you know 30 inch desktop display and Apple you know when and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► you know reiterated this year you know that each of these devices gets an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► interface that is just for that form factor in the increase you know making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► them very different and you know we can't even talk about it when we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► into yosemite review the way that your sanity is clearly inspired by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► direction that iOS 7 wind but it's it even at a glance just if you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► tuned out for six months and still haven't even seen yosemite and you took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► a look at it right now you wouldn't think so they copied Iowa 7 that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► the exact same thing it's different it's a family resemblance but it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► brother or cousin it is not an identical twin exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► simply not twins and I think showing these devices in this promotional image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► for us we don't even see the display is in a in a strange way emphasizes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► the that way you would send the displays are very different across also thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► I think this is always interesting to me and I tried to think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► is what are the things that Apple is trying to convey to us that they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► bring themselves to say for various reasons because it's you and me this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► of the things with this image in a way that they spoke about it is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► don't expect or even want everybody to buy everything you're not supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► have an iMac and MacBook and an iPad and iPad Mini and you know a phone and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► watch if you do great you know you're a great customer but if you just have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► of them that's great you know maybe you have this iPhone six-plus and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► feel like now I don't need an iPad and your only other product is a Macbook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► you just use that MacBook everywhere you use it at your desk to use it when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► travel and that's it you're perfect you're perfectly encourage that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► that's absolutely encouraged but they can't say that they can't say it ok if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► you don't buy this you know i mean you can't get on stage and say you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► cool new iMac that we do show dude it's totally fine if you don't buy into work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► every talk about this an ATP little while ago about how they even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► within the iOS device range you see them head-on or whatever they call it look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► color LCD screen of various sizes but now they really fleshed out the range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► especially with the watch being a little tiny thing and then you have all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► different various sizes of iPhones in the big one of the biggest one gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► close to the many and that you know like it's a pretty smooth scale-up of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► rectangular color screens that you can buy from the big I read them on the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► bought but and as the physical form factors have started to form the smooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► scale but they're kind of showing in this image here they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► discontinuities because what is the difference between an iPhone 6 plus an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► iPad 1 runs iPad apps and one runs iPhone apps and the line between them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► ATP is probably going to go away sometime in the near future because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► distinction like if you were to get an iPhone six-plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► go to the App Store and be like oh I want this game or just happen to like us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► are you can only think what do you mean iPad only like that that is not much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► bigger screen Melling man what is it about the thing holding my hand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► music can't run a quote unquote iPad that distinction seems like it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► to go away but this the other gap of like you get the iPad error if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► become a pro and then to a MacBook Air which presumably go read it to why are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► these are different like well as you to explain why is a keyboard but they run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► totally different OS's one has touched one is not touch like Apple's expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► you to pick your spot in their product line where you feel comfortable because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► there are discontinuity still and I never going to paper over them to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► Microsoft does like 2010 as everybody that's not what Apple believes in but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► any kind of transition like another discontinuity when you go from the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► to the watch is just has to be account work the same way it's just too small or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► whatever so these little gaps like if they were to space out of like watch big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► gap phone phone phone tiny gap iPad laptop even bigger gap I'm at your spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► the pic in that range of like you know I Chinese food man you want to call a one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► column be like and make up the suite of devices that fill out your life and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► having this range I think obviously someone's not just gonna buy the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► and not have a PC and not have a cell phone like they're gonna have something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► in this rain just which ones do you think you need no one needs to fill in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► all caps and then they did but they can't say it that way right and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► always hated the way like we have something for every day you know like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► is a look at this range like look at the richest cities range they're surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► there is something that fits your needs like we have no flushing out like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► diversify now fallen for the longest time like the iPhone was the iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► everybody wanted like it even now he said his room for diversification of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► longer battery life or something like that they've diversified their line to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► say something for everybody and the same way they don't expect you to buy two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► iPhones like the big one in the small linear night phony your day phone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► the same thing that they don't say that because I think its obvious but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► like the not gonna say if you if you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► MacBook Pro we probably can expect you to buy an iMac because the MacBook Pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► are completely fully capable awesome machine you can do everything on but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3643">TS</a>]
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01:01:05 ◼ ► of I have obviously they've bottomed last 10 months and they're angry that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► you know did not get angry just went out and bought an iMac but to me that's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► totally not surprising you know that even though the Mac Pro is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► expensive machine and in theory should always be at the leading edge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► technology and it is in a lot of ways that it didn't go retina first or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► least simultaneously and probably not even close like I know by Marcos logic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► of why he doesn't think a stand-alone five Kage displays gonna ship from Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► until 2016 is pretty sound because it there's a lot of I think he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► probably doesn't need DisplayPort / honorable in a 1.38 / Thunderbolt 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► they're not going to do that then I can have hereunto cables to drive it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► means that there is always obvious that there's a advantage of an all-in-one DVD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► all mine has they can use whatever the hell interconnect they want inside that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► box right doesn't either confirmed any specification and doesn't need that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► could just do what do what you gotta do to make it work it all happens inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► the box so you're always going to have an advantage for that thing if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► happened that a standardized external interconnect existed for retina displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► in the same time as the macro macro would have had it for ya but it just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► happened that it didn't end and then you're like ok we need to get right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► they're somehow and because the Mac Pro uses that the Odyssey on parts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► because their generation behind because we don't have the external interacts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► apple just did whatever the hell it took to get it done inside this iMac box and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► don't worry about what goes on behind the curtain track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► but it does create this weird and historical time you know to five six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► seven years now we're gonna look back on it and it will just be compressed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► we'll just remember that I'm actress first and everything you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► standalone displays were second in the interim though it is weird that the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► is going to have these super amazing retina displays and the Mac Pro no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► matter how much money is spent on it and let you know well I mean you can get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► fork a display from AppBrain four years back and then you buy one of those like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► special you know once for photography that has a bigger color gamut and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► better accuracy and you buy from NEC it like the people who are buying Mac Pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► minority have a super high res monitors for a video editing that confirmed two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► different standards then this consumer IMAX screens so it's not the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► might be complaining people who had bought a Mac Pro but didn't really need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► one and just want to have a can of them machine right that's the case I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► that's right what irks them is that now until there's a five k stand-alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► display and when that comes out it won't run on the exact you have to get in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► way they envisioned ongoing in a meeting at one of the many reasons that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► buy one is like well if I was waiting for retina this Mac Pro is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► machine because we know what it's capable of we know Apple didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► offer any monitors I didn't want their body mind if I did have it there and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► didn't want to be forecast wanted what Apple made here that I want to 27 inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► that resolution of my wife 27 inch Thunderbolt Display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► just double the number of pixels very clean cars on there that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► that really blew me away at first I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► waiting for the well there's gotta be a catch and then I thought about like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► with the iPhone six-plus where it's not really three acts retinoids to 2.8 2.6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► and they just use scaling to make it work and it looks pretty good but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► still not the same time they gave the pixel dimensions and unlike dividing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► man on the moon that sounds like actual to axe you know and it is no doubt that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► announced their monetary similar specs so you'd seen as Dell announced he like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► okay well this must be technically possible now after I was going to offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► one possible that it's like when when does Apple have a product this could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3896">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► mean if they didn't exist and Dell comes out with his monitor the current Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► Pros can't drive with a single cable and might not be able to drive to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► then we just put all been waiting and be like well Dell's got these matters we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► can't have them but the iMac does exist in gave Apple an opportunity to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► we can get as soon as those displays are available we gotta get 121 our machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► behind that is the way to make that happen so famous you know knock on wood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► let's wait until I actually take it out and set up and use it but I'm paper at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► least and from what I've seen in person this is the Mac i've been waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► close to 10 years you know it's gonna be big upgrade valujet ever since I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► remember when they were first talking about it bc maybe 2006 2007 but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► they called it what are they called it before they had to work retina high dpi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► resolution resolution independent scalable you I resolution independence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► was and I remember I mention this to like my my fellow obsessive resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► independence is cable sasser panic and I remember going to the session [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► at WBC with him we came out so excited and he was like we're gonna do all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► graphics and other apps as PDAs and they did in fact they say parents started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► shipping UPS with with scalable PDF icons and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► inside for tow bars and stuff like that years ago because of cable and I both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► convinced ourselves I don't even know what we were thinking I mean it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► just you like at like if you go back to my old OS 10 reviews Apple made promises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► they liked by 2008 our home product line will be resolution independent so get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► ready like 2006 when they say they gave it they give a year and a date and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► every year like they were used to be section and my users like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► resolution dependence how's that going along and I would take a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► screenshot of texts at it in like 20 X motor 1150 did you see what a trainwreck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► as you like and that's why this is still not easy facing see you next year I we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► just convinced ourselves that the like right now I'm actually gonna be coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► out in late 2008 and you're so excited we wanted to get in line to buy one then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► and it took until now just i mean it was so much easier to make the iPhone 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► screen to waste your victims and it's just so hard to make it that density you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► know so we had to wait a long time before I was economically feasible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► make a screen this message that was the whole thing with red as well maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► could do earlier maybe we'll just do it for 21 inch of track right cuz they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► could have gone that made that one retina sooner I would've been like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► cash or three kailash type resolution but no they weren't true though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► whole enchilada yeah and it's really as far as I can tell no compromise its in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► terms of the number of pixels the way they're doing it you know that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► no no cheapening out on it it's super bright it's amazing to me that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► anything to during the event last week after you know Phil gave the specs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4074">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► the size and you know I love you know what's gonna powers that's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► a huge problem all these pixels lighten up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► is this thing gonna get super hot and instead it takes less power which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► yeah that that's the thing that made me feel good about the machine that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► that is not going to be just the ragged edge of what's possible to wade into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► this thing you know the cooling everything so they you know the GPU is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► is hotter but they made up for by actually make you scream my hope is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► it's what bye bye not compromising and clearly like you said they could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► shipped something sooner whether it was a 21 inch first or make it a 27 inch for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► k displaying you scaling to make the on-screen elements a reasonable size as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► opposed to making everything cartoonishly large they could have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► any number of those things within the last few years and didn't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► hopefully this it's almost like they're shipping like a 2.0 version of that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► waited until they can get everything just right for people who have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► sitting in their house tell themselves to make themselves feel better about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► fresh generation Apple products is practically had to play it so far so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► far so good the only there was a little bit scary moment this morning when Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► and I had a few people treating us like look at this study was swiping through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► spaces on their new Renault 5 k iMac and it was like super slow and stuttering is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► like but then million other people to be detained and showed the exact same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► on there you know 13 inch MacBook Pros just say some weird yosemite but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► hopefully the workout and 10:10 one which will hopefully come out soon as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► had I had no reproductions at home like I mean even I might you know for unibody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► MacBook Pro Tools doing all that stuff but then I'm at work that had been on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► for days that's running you some money I have enabled activated machine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► religion ever do otherwise and it was like oh this has gotta be somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► bought because we get reports like it doesn't happen all the time and the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► I can tell us that it's some kind of issue that happens when your back is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► for a long time but there are bugs and that was the only scare so far about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► five-time acts turns out to be a false alarm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► yeah I never know how far I can push it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► hands-on areas after these events like and there's others who who are older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► than I have to do it and download kik pension transfer yeah I wouldn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► because then they'd stop you there is every one point like if people can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► longer hardware anyway then you can test it for all you want I can decide to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► the hands-on area well and I could see how the people who aren't getting review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► units would be ten more tempted to do something like that and see if they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► get away with getting the iOS devices like you want to find out just three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► courses that iPad right so you know quickly go to some I don't exploit some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► crazy jailbreak thing to quickly get something like to be able to run yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► think they'll generally cut you off before you get there but it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► talking to them because the that the people who staff the hands-on areas I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► think are all I know most of them are but I think all of them work under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► schiller in the product marketing division at Apple and there it's easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► think of them you know they all wear t-shirts they're working on an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► store something like that but they're all like in my experience super super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► informed about the stuff that you were that you're talking about like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► had asked is this three quarter in is that how he could when from 22 billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► transistors 23 they would know the answer but they also know that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► not allowed to tell me that they're super super down there totally brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► they have to have their talking points they know what they will talk to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► about the no specific phrasing for you know if you ask a question or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► and they're gonna tell you something that they're gonna they're all going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► say a sentence in the same words it's it's talk about their profession and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► that's all it's very evident like if you know anybody was there at their first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► you know the first time you get invited to an Apple event you go to the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► it very clear that they have a script and have talking point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► but the other thing though is that they they're full time jobs three hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► sixty-three other days a year are working in Apple's product marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► being hyper informed about that all of the technical details of all of Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► products like the these people know they know their shit they know the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► that's not on the script and it's you know and they're not going to be fooled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► by somebody trying to download something like that maybe I could see getting away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► with it and in the early parts of the hands-on areas because it's so crazy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► crowded and it's everybody wants to get their hands on him at once and maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► can get away with it but not my thing was I i they were showing photos of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► course big images because it just shows off the thing they commissioned a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► with like one of those bad ads but this camera that shoots like 50 50 megapixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► digital images and like a cityscape and you can see these details and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► zoom in and read like the license plate number on the car and engine back out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► and it's actually see that it still being rendered in individual pixels on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► screen but I closed that and went to light the finder and opened up like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► so far a window and tried to drive around the window as fast as I could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► thought that was my benchmark in there and I'm here if I Drive a window around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► does it does it shear like I think that was a good thing testing also you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► if you think about the the first signature and the MacBook Pro 6 growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► at the maximum resolution at the one that was bigger than the native screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► you know that that one had a little bit of issues why not you know why but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► scaling and not with the composite compositing is always been pretty easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► to do with the way you looking for sharing is because you know they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► be driving it was like essentially to DisplayPort 1.2 connections or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► equivalent behind the scenes in like you would look like the drive to left at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► screen like I mean that's the type of thing Apple would not ship if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► if you could get tearing while dragging windows around I mean I will never shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► that even when it meant the dragon windows around with slow as molasses you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► I would have been shocked but it's something I had to see to believe but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► that was the extent that I tested it in advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► gets rolling I put in a position to window right in the middle so if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► was you know if it was some kind of two screens glued together trickery that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► tried to figure that out of course it's not anything else from the event last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► week I guess there's the iPad 2 iPad 2 which is kind of interesting I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► way that they've gone with their iPads is why I try to write about it this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► that its there's no real annual pattern to it and I don't think it means that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► it's directionless I just feel Lake the engineering winds that they can pull off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► each year while maintaining their profit margins are very very different as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► compared to the iPhone which to me seems much more predictable with the top and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► iPad and the reason I'm still totally in favour and iPad Pro is like while no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► is really paying much attention they're pushing up the highest and i OS device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► to put pushing up really close to PC class in terms of power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► not in terms of interfaith doesn't have a keyboard still it's still touch or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► whatever but you know and it doesn't seem like a big deal I go on my iOS apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► faster and maybe like a game look nicer something like that but it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► one of those things where when we have all the steps in between it doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4556">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► so impressive is not as impressive as you know iPhone 3G S iPhone 4 where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► go ready like wow they just doubled everything it's amazing right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► through a series of small steps this gonna come a point where new classes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► applications are possible on an iPad merely because they've been pressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► authority and there was a little stall there I think a lot of a deal with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► goodbye to ram for some time but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► having two cars from the how long we had two cars like everyone else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► quad-core like the Android space like that so now they're pressing again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► gigs of ram three cars I don't think it makes new categories of stuff available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► to you but maybe a generation or two from now we're gonna wake up and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► there are things of the iPad can do that the iPhone can't quite dream of doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► I mean right now it's like you just need to power to run this big screen in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► end the iPhone you know is reasonable but like I i think you had just have so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► much more headroom in the bigger form factor so far they haven't really been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► willing to do with them I just the first year I feel like they're pulling away by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4616">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► giving a double the RAM and everything but you know there is room I think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► is room for four more sophisticated applications to be an even larger an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► even more powerful ipad were just like right now it's kind of like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► inching towards that it just seems like a faster bigger iPad well I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► two demos they chose were really good I think they were such great Emma's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► pixel pitch inventory and replay what did you see the schiller mispronounced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► but those are good demos because in theory if they've already got the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► app working for the iPad they could come out with maybe they will even though you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► know maybe when Pixelmator I was ships it will be universal and a running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► iPhone too but clearly editing photos is better the bigger the screen the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► and on a phone screen you're seriously constrained you know in for like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► exact thing that they did where they're making like an advertisement for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► know this big image and they want to superimpose taxed and you know having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► laptop size screen like the full-size iPad even though there might be small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► for a laptop but still certainly you know nobody that the small iPad Mini is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► vaguely giant-size phone size right it would be the biggest phone ever but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► you know you could imagine somebody making an Android phone that's the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► many but not an iPad and for photo editing it's you know size matters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► then I think with those replay guys I thought that was an interesting boy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► could never do that on a PC demo because to meet the big part of that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► you've already got the device you used to ship to shoot declares it's all one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► thing it's the camera is the editing system is the playback system right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► you don't have that with the laptop like where you might shoot a bunch of video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► on your phone and then you can connect your phone with the lightning adapter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► your MacBook and suck all the video over and open NNN you might airplane on GTV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► so people can see it and put it back on your screen but it certainly aid that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► beyond the technical acumen of the light typical people and be it's not something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► you want to do an occasion like in the demo that it's like it's the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► thing we're here on vacation you tell yourself when you get back home boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► you're going to spend a day and take all your stuff and put it on your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► and make a nice video and send out to be open communication and you're rushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► around and you're back to regular when you're on vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► you got the iPad with you you can do and you know go back to your hotel room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► right here waiting for your table at dinner and just suck these clips in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► push a button and have it finished video pop out that you could post share share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► right there and then say hey guys this is overdoing on vacation and like other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► things looking for the iPad which we still haven't seen but people have poked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► around like the whole you know split-screen multitasking which we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► is lurking the code for putting multiple apps and two thirds of course it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► and obviously it's not Baghdad and are ready for a new maybe you need a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► iPad or whatever but that's what I'm talking about it like pressing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► limits of what can be done on a touch device I can't help but think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► going to two gigs of ram is a sign that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► if there's an iPad pro in like five months from now that's the route the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► rumor is you know make maybe like February or March they're gonna have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► iPad Pro 12 or 13 inches or something like that and it'll have split screen my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► guess is that this iPad if that's true this iPad air to get the split screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► too but no other iPad because of room on the smaller yeah I think it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► they've promised it but you know in fact I guess they still sell the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► many which they're selling for 249 is only 512 megs of RAM and you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4855">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► guys talk about ATP but it's it the frustration with the growing range from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► bottom high-end alone is that developers don't have the ability to say this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► only runs on the iPad air too because it so graphically intense you can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► your iPad you your iPad app has to run on at least lunch on all iPads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► that's something Apple has the flexibility of changes in at just an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► store ruled they can change the role in a time they can give you a little API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► endpoint update to definitively say because they keep bragging about as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► Marco pointed out that they that big chart that shows the GPU speed that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► up like a big hockey look how far we've come the a Texas its GPU is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► incredibly powerful and yet they're still shipping the second on the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► a second like well it doesn't help that I gotta make a game that runs on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► second . I don't it's frustrating to me the X's out there is now a good game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► that scales from all the way out at the I can't believe we used to live like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► animals like that and to the hockey stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► remove texture mapping in that version will just be flat shading but I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► that there's a general you know the gist of it is if you're an iPad app or modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► iPhone app you can assume you have access to about a gig of memory if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► need to if you need it so I feel like this I feel like the iPad air to getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► is a sign that if they're split screen it'll get it and I don't think the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► ones will assist I'm 42 day like it's it's kind of sad that the iPhone doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► have a very least you can make some kind of battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► excuse for the phone yeah definitely I mean maybe like it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► borderline they've been made it happen only if they gave it two gigs of ram it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► would be a different devices but there's a there's a Quora post I haven't linked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► to it from doing fireball because I feel like it's a little I i dont I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► verify myself and it seems a little bit to rob reliable even when they even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► they don't even when they don't put enough RAM in the phone it's it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► good but the expert if somebody asked on Quora why it why did the new iPhone 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► only still only one gigabyte of RAM when a lot of the top Topshop competitors on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► Android have to like the top-ranked answer was somebody saying that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/4995">TS</a>]
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01:23:26 ◼ ► garbage collected system like Java needs double the RAM a man on garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/5006">TS</a>]
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01:46:40 ◼ ► drop down menus briefing go away those are translucent it's it's a temporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► there's a logic to it right but on the other hand the doc which was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► there was also transit so it just like well a few transients cooperate and here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► at like you know I several times I've asked Apple about the effects and during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► the different peanuts they've said here's why we do it and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► reasons behind them and had to like look at those reasons and say like is this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► reason for you to pollute all of my side bars with the color of the desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► background like sometimes that the justification can more capital the times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► I like I don't buy like the whole thing of making the did you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:18 ◼ ► temperature in mood here desktop background influence the look of your OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6438">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► sounds like you mean it is a thing that happens it works like if you if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► a super orange desktop background all year you're behind the window blending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► transition regions are going to have attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► your menu bar is going to be changed on all the menus that are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► tinted orange red but like I did you know that that aspect of personalization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► like it may just twice in the face of Trance tradition or whatever they want I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► want my cleaning beautiful interface to be on top of that I don't want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► desktop picture like I may like it because it's a nice picture I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► but I don't like its contribution to the sidebar of my email crime to now looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6476">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► like a muddy rusty orange thing whereas before it was crispy text on top of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► background color that the app designer it changes what it means to pick a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► desktop picture before it was ok what do I want to see when I got nothing open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► like I'm done like let's say like as you complete your what you have to do today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► you keep closing windows in your closing tabs and you know you can quit your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► email cuz I'm not gonna check it again and now I've got nothing and i'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► at my desktop and this is a picture that makes me happy that's all you had to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► when you chose your desktop now you've gotta pick something that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6511">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► make like you said like make the sidebar in your email client look good when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► don't even see the desktop and then there's no point have to have to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► to put in ATP times I have to do some follow-up because one guy was on last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► week I English we talked about this week clearly confused the hell out of a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► of people into because we're talking about the way that if you have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► stack of white windows just like text edit documents and then you have mail in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6535">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► front of them in the sidebar of male behind it just a white window it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► takes a tent from the desktop that's what does in terms of not merely making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► any kind of logical sense in the world of physics we weren't what everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► seems to think we said was that it doesn't take any cues from what's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► behind it so if you it's mostly it's mostly what's behind yes but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► touches the death it's mostly what's behind it directly in the window behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► it so if you have like a real vibrant purple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► image you know grimace from McDonalds in the window behind you and your mail is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► in front of it you're gonna have a purple sidebar but I end up a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► times with a lot of weight Windows you know editing documents and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► but but but God forbid you have like a safari window with it was like a dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► black blob and then some white stuffed in the black blobs are showing right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► if it's not like it not like an entirely black window where it just makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► whole thing look great if it's just right in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► there's looks like there's so much I see it in the Messages app every day with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► when I have transparency on because there's my blue messages are always on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► the side and so up at the top right there's this blue propeller about it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► a ranging from I can enter to that doesn't extend across the whole bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► his analogy is that an ATP last night but probably should also put their view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► but didn't solve this section on extensions and I go I go through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► little bit about the the old days of extensions where they were just invade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► the memory space if you have the OS or other applications and even unto the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► last 10 days just like you know every app launches loaded the scripting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► edition which just like runs wild in its memory space and does some crazy hacked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► you know and able window shade or whatever it's gonna do right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► idea that you would write a program is an application developer and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► would tested and debugged make sure it works correctly and then handed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6658">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► somebody and then someone else you'd never met write a program that invades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► your programming changes the way it works and causes a bug in your program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► and you get like a support ticket early hey your your your text editor has a bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► in like 10 I told us that doesn't like oh I'm running this extension and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► this thing written by someone you never met invade your application and changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► the way it behaves and now it's buggy you got to fix it since nineteen tenable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:23 ◼ ► way to develop software because how can you like the halting problem how can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6683">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► know what's going to happen when some program I've never seen before invades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► my programming changes the way its behaviour impossible for me to write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► quote unquote correct bug free program in this environment to develop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:37 ◼ ► designer equivalent of that is going to make an application to make it look as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6697">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► good as I want but I have no control over what windows are behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► called the person desktop background as I just gotta trust Apple to try to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:48 ◼ ► this into something readable and then I get back to the you know why why is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6708">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► what is it about the sidebar like I can i can i can buy pull-down menus I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:56 ◼ ► buy sheets I can buy you know transient things that are floating in but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6716">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► sidebar seems so a part of the content of the application like maybe who has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► slide out drawers like the old style one that I can say with transient and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► should be translucent but there is nothing about sidebars that says to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► please tell me what's behind you like it they're filled with text like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► source list therefore text that has to be readable I do not want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► distracted by the other stuff there and so i mean i i know there's no option to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:23 ◼ ► turn it off except to turn off everywhere and I pretty much at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6743">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► point I feel like I can on board with the way they used translucency even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► the stupid tendering and all the drop them everywhere sidebar just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:33 ◼ ► bridge too far the other thing I don't get I don't get the other use of it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6753">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► don't get the in window transparency you know like and Safari Chrome at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► of this far away does the little bit more justification that of their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:46 ◼ ► doing as i said im pretty sure I said this interview once they made scrollbars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6766">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► invisible the only way you have any indication that their stuff above or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► below is if you see something truncated or if you kind of see this damn you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► wavy image of things that are above or below and that bothers me less because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6777">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► two largest and have a stronger boundaries like the toolbar buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:06 ◼ ► themselves don't let stuff go through on them so they're gonna be you know like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6786">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► dark markings on like backgrounds well-defined there's nothing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► toolbar itself and I need to read this can become illegible and Mike just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► scrolling through the review I can kinda see the reason to do this and it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:22 ◼ ► of the one of the justifications of philosophy section is that this looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6802">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► nice like that it's fashion that its athletics and if you scroll through my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:29 ◼ ► yosemite review and when I look at some of these screenshots I think some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6809">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► them are really pretty like the multiple docs for the different backgrounds or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► even when I'm trying to show something that i think is a negative like the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► safari window just change tabs and it radically changes with the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► interest looks like the pages are has curled up in the scrollbar that's as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► little bit crazy but the images beautiful I think like this has the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:52 ◼ ► interesting screenshots because of you know I I purposely tried to show things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6832">TS</a>]
01:53:58 ◼ ► in the worst light like get the most ecstatically pleasing but show at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6838">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► extremes are i think is a really interesting thing to do it and but I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► only excuse it as long as it doesn't starting pitching on usability when does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► impinge on usability a good reason other than in some scenarios looks really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► I know your scenario it's ugly and you can't turn it off and some scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► looks good and that that hostile policy and I just I guess I like the in window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:26 ◼ ► transparency a little bit more than the behind window transparency because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6866">TS</a>]
01:54:29 ◼ ► there's a little bit more like you said with the scrolling and a sense of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6869">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► stuff up there there's some kind of logic to it where is the sidebar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► transparency is just seems mindless to me so I think and I've been as I've gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► full time I think probably going to run with the reduced transparency option and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► yeah and that bothers me because I think I mean does as I point out in their view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► it it does look ok like that like it and still as handsome it shows that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6896">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► a sturdy design that does not rely on transparency parlor tricks to look nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6900">TS</a>]
01:55:03 ◼ ► because it looks looks perfectly nice and its solid especially on gretna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6903">TS</a>]
01:55:07 ◼ ► screens with certified airlines about things that contrast is still a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6907">TS</a>]
01:55:10 ◼ ► bit low but otherwise it shows that this they're you know they're sturdy bones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6910">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► underneath this design but it's a shame to give up all the transparency of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► text I like just to save that one that I don't think the bosnian transparency and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► accessibility preference pane and those things are there to help make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► interface more usable for people who need that but I feel like designers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:32 ◼ ► not spending as much over what things look like with that turned on by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6932">TS</a>]
01:55:35 ◼ ► third-party an apple designers like that it that it looks clunkier that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6935">TS</a>]
01:55:39 ◼ ► more like like the way that Windows like wow I just do this and I'm sure to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6939">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► funny look at it as like details are right there sweating over what it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:46 ◼ ► like in the default mode I don't think people are sweating over how any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6946">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► application looks with reduced transparency like right down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:52 ◼ ► overlays for volume changing with the corners don't have transparency in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6952">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► situations are you saying that I don't think I should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6956">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► so now I now can you leave the house in on like it's it's totally counter to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:06 ◼ ► Super apple nerd aesthetic everything has to be beautiful and elegant like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6966">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► that stuff like that is around if you know where to look for it because he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► accessibility is not meant to be like it's it's first and foremost is supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:16 ◼ ► to make it more usable at the expense of you know perfect aesthetic beauty so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6976">TS</a>]
01:56:21 ◼ ► there is one of your expenses made you think more about that when you change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6981">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► the volume and you get that they would call it the temporary over the rounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► corners are just filled in with black as it transpired part of whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:36 ◼ ► thing I got the call that I bet that the bug that they'll fix but it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/6996">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► definite side but that type of thing like you would a file that is a bug hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:43 ◼ ► when I enables accessibility options this thing doesn't look as nice they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7003">TS</a>]
01:56:47 ◼ ► gonna be like yeah but you know it's easier to see right stuff doesn't show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7007">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► three right that's the point of accessibility future feel free to file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:56 ◼ ► their bikes if they could close it is BS correctly I well I like you said I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7016">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► love to be able to pick and choose and just turn it off in the sidebar because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:04 ◼ ► I like the transparency on the menus I think it it makes it looks good and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7024">TS</a>]
01:57:09 ◼ ► makes sense to me that it's temporary you know it's it's just a little thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7029">TS</a>]
01:57:13 ◼ ► that while I choose this menu command is floating over my thing and now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7033">TS</a>]
01:57:18 ◼ ► they're solid I just checked it right here in front of me it's doesn't look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7038">TS</a>]
01:57:22 ◼ ► the text rendering changes especially not read the text rendering changes when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7042">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► you go solid on the menus as well and the menus the thing about me about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:30 ◼ ► media's attention the desktop like I like the overlays like the volume change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7050">TS</a>]
01:57:34 ◼ ► when transparencies on the sort of Iowa 7 overlay when you put control center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7054">TS</a>]
01:57:38 ◼ ► from the but like it doesn't bring it doesn't pull any colors from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7058">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► desktop background just simply I am white slightly translucent with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:44 ◼ ► cool blur I wish them anywhere like that because all my desktop pictures are made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7064">TS</a>]
01:57:49 ◼ ► by pull-down menus uglier like I'm gonna have to change them even though I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7069">TS</a>]
01:57:53 ◼ ► the pictures that are there just pick one that has a different dominant color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7073">TS</a>]
01:57:57 ◼ ► so that dominant color I can you know stomach with sign of an all white gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7077">TS</a>]
01:58:03 ◼ ► increase contrast haven't used it like that obviously turned on the screen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7083">TS</a>]
01:58:09 ◼ ► feel like that one guy I know just saying it looks like system sex but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7089">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► looks awesome sex made by someone with not a lot of attention to detail has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:16 ◼ ► things collide with each other in this no spaces between things they just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7096">TS</a>]
01:58:19 ◼ ► of drama the magic marker over the edges and don't read they don't change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7099">TS</a>]
01:58:22 ◼ ► metrics so it's like crowded there's a whole bunch of things that I think look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7102">TS</a>]
01:58:26 ◼ ► better and a whole bunch of things that clearly look worse just in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7106">TS</a>]
01:58:30 ◼ ► whether it's pleasing to me and I realize I guess this is it is under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7110">TS</a>]
01:58:34 ◼ ► accessibility for a reason I can actually see clearly how it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7114">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► accessibility features for some people but I actually like some of the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:43 ◼ ► of it but there's others that you know I can't I don't know a kid rocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7123">TS</a>]
01:58:46 ◼ ► full-time its and and the low contrast unlike basically the default by reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7126">TS</a>]
01:58:52 ◼ ► a stupid Congress doesn't it remind you speaking about 25 like the days when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7132">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► we're all using bitmap font and everything was likely you still do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7135">TS</a>]
01:58:58 ◼ ► like a light grey text on a dark grey background and you know and and 10.4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7138">TS</a>]
01:59:03 ◼ ► down a pixel thoughts and every like everything was super low energy you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7143">TS</a>]
01:59:07 ◼ ► just make it so precious and beautiful but then when you when you move back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7147">TS</a>]
01:59:10 ◼ ► from the screen just faded into a uniform grey haze and you don't notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7150">TS</a>]
01:59:13 ◼ ► it so much in Yosemite until you turn on increased contrast like whoa this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7153">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► airlines now jump out at me and that is clear delineation than likely to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:21 ◼ ► buttons don't fade into the toolbar as much as they used to like it goes too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7161">TS</a>]
01:59:24 ◼ ► far in the other direction but you only noticed low contrast of Use Somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7164">TS</a>]
01:59:28 ◼ ► when you turn on the high ground and then turn it back off and I know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7168">TS</a>]
01:59:32 ◼ ► feel like I just my night vision went out and now everything is fading into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7172">TS</a>]
01:59:35 ◼ ► one big blur get one of the things that most surprised me about yosemite when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7175">TS</a>]
01:59:39 ◼ ► they unveiled at the BBC was that the general control system pressure where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7179">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► you control the basic appearance stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► graphite blue highlight color and stuff like that I I had my gut feeling was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:55 ◼ ► that they were going to get rid of all that just as you know go more like Iowa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7195">TS</a>]
01:59:59 ◼ ► State we don't get the pic highlight color and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7199">TS</a>]
02:00:01 ◼ ► unless you gonna get blue and you're gonna like it or the app is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7201">TS</a>]
02:00:05 ◼ ► override it you know get the pic whether you get lured grave as I like color you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7205">TS</a>]
02:00:10 ◼ ► don't get to pick the color that you know when you select tax what color is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7210">TS</a>]
02:00:14 ◼ ► the highlight of the texts that's the thing about increase contrast it changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7214">TS</a>]
02:00:17 ◼ ► your head like yeah to something that I seemingly can't quite figure out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7217">TS</a>]
02:00:22 ◼ ► what the rules are for I thought they were going to get rid of all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7222">TS</a>]
02:00:26 ◼ ► because I thought that was sort of that such an old school consumer you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7226">TS</a>]
02:00:32 ◼ ► feature you know that you get like the way Windows you still let you pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7232">TS</a>]
02:00:41 ◼ ► everything you know you've fully designer blue with white trim or you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7241">TS</a>]
02:00:47 ◼ ► make Windows look just truly got awful but they'd like to do it but the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7247">TS</a>]
02:00:51 ◼ ► they have in their the things they have in there are there for reasons that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7251">TS</a>]
02:00:55 ◼ ► haven't changed the whole reason graphite is there is because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7255">TS</a>]
02:00:59 ◼ ► essentially bowing to pressure from graphic designers who felt like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7259">TS</a>]
02:01:02 ◼ ► candy colors were throwing up their color sense and they know as I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7262">TS</a>]
02:01:06 ◼ ► put another view this is such a multi-year big a few dollars designers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7266">TS</a>]
02:01:11 ◼ ► who are like you've got to get these candy color doctor will decide our face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7271">TS</a>]
02:01:15 ◼ ► it's totally destroying my ability to you know in the next two other colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7275">TS</a>]
02:01:19 ◼ ► and it's something that's neutral never said find his graphite and they gave me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7279">TS</a>]
02:01:23 ◼ ► everything go blue tinge of gray which was worse I feel like throwing up color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7283">TS</a>]
02:01:28 ◼ ► balance because if you if your mind believes it actually neutral grey but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7288">TS</a>]
02:01:31 ◼ ► it's not there's more blue screen up way worse than primary colors red green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7291">TS</a>]
02:01:35 ◼ ► yellow or good but I to graze morning I loved it though it was almost as though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7295">TS</a>]
02:01:39 ◼ ► they let me pick is like right down my alley here now but like it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7299">TS</a>]
02:01:46 ◼ ► that's not really what they asked for and how now with graphite is now now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7306">TS</a>]
02:01:49 ◼ ► much more neutral grey and it's totally boring but for people who want something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7309">TS</a>]
02:01:52 ◼ ► with Nicholas sign but they went the other direction like I said ok we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7312">TS</a>]
02:01:55 ◼ ► blue and graphite and also but appreciate you can do this crazy dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7315">TS</a>]
02:02:00 ◼ ► mode that we serve half-hearted they did to match our programs like again you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7320">TS</a>]
02:02:04 ◼ ► know that I asked about that they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7324">TS</a>]
02:02:06 ◼ ► a bunch of different reasons for a bit like the one that has the most weight is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7326">TS</a>]
02:02:10 ◼ ► like your customers want this to match the power applications that are also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7330">TS</a>]
02:02:14 ◼ ► dark because they're like they're looking at video all day and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7334">TS</a>]
02:02:16 ◼ ► want the white menubar doc staring them in the face so here's a dark but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7336">TS</a>]
02:02:20 ◼ ► thought you must have stayed up to date with the betas over the summer I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7340">TS</a>]
02:02:25 ◼ ► that they actually called it a dark mode and it seemed like a hint like when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7345">TS</a>]
02:02:30 ◼ ► unveiled it on stage at the BBC that it would be almost like everything windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7350">TS</a>]
02:02:35 ◼ ► that all sorts of stuff was going to go dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7355">TS</a>]
02:02:39 ◼ ► well so there's a couple reasons why they didn't do that like early on in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7359">TS</a>]
02:02:43 ◼ ► in the betas in the general control panel thing I like is the the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7363">TS</a>]
02:02:47 ◼ ► control was there but instead of being a checkbox it was a theme pop-up menu so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7367">TS</a>]
02:02:52 ◼ ► was like Africa with the words were like whatever word is next to the graphite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7372">TS</a>]
02:02:54 ◼ ► aqua picker and then there was another picture that it was a pop-up menu of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7374">TS</a>]
02:02:58 ◼ ► like seeing it was like regular and that became a check mark which is kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7378">TS</a>]
02:03:03 ◼ ► demoted from like I would not seeming is not OST me this is just check mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7383">TS</a>]
02:03:07 ◼ ► option that tweaks how certain things look and you can't go fold architect for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7387">TS</a>]
02:03:11 ◼ ► the same reason even just making the menu bar dark was a problem because now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7391">TS</a>]
02:03:14 ◼ ► you have all these third party and you know Apple's own in the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7394">TS</a>]
02:03:19 ◼ ► menu bar icons the drawing correctly when when they drew blood draw black on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7399">TS</a>]
02:03:24 ◼ ► top of you can see anything Apple's own had to be updated in the third party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7404">TS</a>]
02:03:28 ◼ ► ones had to be updated multiply that problem by about a bazillion if you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7408">TS</a>]
02:03:31 ◼ ► to change the entire interface too dark how many applications draw with black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7411">TS</a>]
02:03:34 ◼ ► and if you put them on a black background everything's invisible so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7414">TS</a>]
02:03:36 ◼ ► that was just not going to happen like the appearance manager in those days you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7416">TS</a>]
02:03:40 ◼ ► had ways to you know every using the appearance manager you can make sure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7420">TS</a>]
02:03:45 ◼ ► replica and Apollo right because you didn't you if you embrace the appearance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7425">TS</a>]
02:03:50 ◼ ► manager you never pick you never said drop black tank flush or whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7430">TS</a>]
02:03:55 ◼ ► give me the text color and now drawn text color and you didn't have to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7435">TS</a>]
02:03:58 ◼ ► what text color was whereas now you see a lot you know there's clearly a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7438">TS</a>]
02:04:03 ◼ ► apps that Coco was like cocoa was not made with that in mind and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7443">TS</a>]
02:04:09 ◼ ► theme stuff was can even though the API's were still there and so like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7449">TS</a>]
02:04:12 ◼ ► know as a talk about there was there was a brief period whereas explosion of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7452">TS</a>]
02:04:16 ◼ ► a community but like even though that tech was there and people took advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7456">TS</a>]
02:04:18 ◼ ► of a job as against it pretty much closed the door on that and now you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7458">TS</a>]
02:04:22 ◼ ► a an ecosystem of applications that are not prepared to be on a system where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7462">TS</a>]
02:04:27 ◼ ► system changes in radical way I mean it's hard enough for Apple when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7467">TS</a>]
02:04:30 ◼ ► change the look to make sure like you know if you drew custom control now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7470">TS</a>]
02:04:33 ◼ ► looks wrong in everything and there's all sorts of other day and I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7473">TS</a>]
02:04:36 ◼ ► even after I even know that they've cut it down it's just use dark menu bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7476">TS</a>]
02:04:41 ◼ ► Doc it's like the the selection cut the highlight color for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7481">TS</a>]
02:04:46 ◼ ► menus in the in the dark mode it's not right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7486">TS</a>]
02:04:52 ◼ ► that's another you know vibrancy attempt to get in touch with the desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7492">TS</a>]
02:04:56 ◼ ► background but also like you know sort of inverted type thing it's it's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7496">TS</a>]
02:05:01 ◼ ► and sometimes little you know it looks a little sickly sometimes it doesn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7501">TS</a>]
02:05:04 ◼ ► know it doesn't it doesn't have the pizzazz of like their big thing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7504">TS</a>]
02:05:09 ◼ ► regular the regular look is this very light grey lighter than normal not a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7509">TS</a>]
02:05:13 ◼ ► of grading to it and this really powerful kind of like if Pepto Bismol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7513">TS</a>]
02:05:18 ◼ ► was blue instead of pink that's what the blue looks like right now it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7518">TS</a>]
02:05:22 ◼ ► you're really like chalky thick opaque blue and that's your highlight color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7522">TS</a>]
02:05:26 ◼ ► whereas when you go dark mode and just kind of becomes this like pale moonlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7526">TS</a>]
02:05:30 ◼ ► shining on yours like that element is not doesn't make a powerful statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7530">TS</a>]
02:05:35 ◼ ► yeah and it doesn't even convert the color of the text so I mean and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7535">TS</a>]
02:05:39 ◼ ► saying that because you're running in and graphite know that's what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7539">TS</a>]
02:05:43 ◼ ► confused if you run in changing thinkin on graphite and change the dark mode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7543">TS</a>]
02:05:47 ◼ ► then pull down menu and looks much marks looking stronger and yes it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7547">TS</a>]
02:05:52 ◼ ► horrible and grab it looks ok in blue mode but it still doesn't change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7552">TS</a>]
02:05:57 ◼ ► color of the text though like in regular mode when you have like you you hover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7557">TS</a>]
02:06:01 ◼ ► your mouse over the New File New then new goes from being written in black to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7561">TS</a>]
02:06:06 ◼ ► being written and white because the blue is so vibrant in the dark mode they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7566">TS</a>]
02:06:11 ◼ ► don't change to like they don't convert the text it's just too close it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7571">TS</a>]
02:06:17 ◼ ► clear that the background is so different that you know you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7577">TS</a>]
02:06:19 ◼ ► infer that gets too and then it and that's the thing with the vibrancy of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7579">TS</a>]
02:06:23 ◼ ► good showing that WWC like they would show that hey if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7583">TS</a>]
02:06:26 ◼ ► you draw text but like it you know again the text I don't think drawn on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7586">TS</a>]
02:06:31 ◼ ► vibrant background we will adjust the color of the text to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7591">TS</a>]
02:06:35 ◼ ► every part of the text has enough contrast to be readable and so the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7595">TS</a>]
02:06:39 ◼ ► color changes because like behind but you can see behind the fire backgrounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7599">TS</a>]
02:06:44 ◼ ► but I'm held behind do whether it's a window a desktop background so you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7604">TS</a>]
02:06:47 ◼ ► just pick one text color you have to sort of just the text color as you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7607">TS</a>]
02:06:52 ◼ ► along in sync with the whatever is behind the to make sure that this letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7612">TS</a>]
02:06:56 ◼ ► on the right side of this sentence is a totally different kind of miss lever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7616">TS</a>]
02:07:00 ◼ ► unless i'd be the thing that's behind us different and they're trying to finesse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7620">TS</a>]
02:07:03 ◼ ► that and and again I have to ask why what's the point of texas poker readable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7623">TS</a>]
02:07:08 ◼ ► just put it on a background when you could wear the developer of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7628">TS</a>]
02:07:10 ◼ ► application control the foreground the background color and we can all read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7630">TS</a>]
02:07:13 ◼ ► friggin tax I don't need to see what's behind it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7633">TS</a>]
02:07:16 ◼ ► why I i hear it I I'm surprised I'm still a little surprised that they even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7636">TS</a>]
02:07:23 ◼ ► have all these options that they didn't you say you know my way or the highway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7643">TS</a>]
02:07:26 ◼ ► and you gonna get gonna get blue indigo I get so I took us from 10.4 to 10.5 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7646">TS</a>]
02:07:33 ◼ ► them to just like brushed metal is gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7653">TS</a>]
02:07:36 ◼ ► pinstripes are gone there's one window style the buttons looking almost nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7656">TS</a>]
02:07:40 ◼ ► is too transparent that the menus I mean I remember they liked the transparency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7660">TS</a>]
02:07:44 ◼ ► of pull-down menus was so extreme in the beginning and then by the end like by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7664">TS</a>]
02:07:48 ◼ ► leopard and Snow Leopard timeframe it was practically opaque like why bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7668">TS</a>]
02:07:52 ◼ ► at that point like I can't see anything through this it's almost entirely opaque [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7672">TS</a>]
02:07:55 ◼ ► white right so you know it in 10 points 15 expect all this exuberance to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7675">TS</a>]
02:08:02 ◼ ► consolidated into one more conservative yet still recognizably yosemite issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7682">TS</a>]
02:08:09 ◼ ► and there's a couple of things they get right I think the new doc is great and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7689">TS</a>]
02:08:14 ◼ ► here's what you wrote in your review setting aside the particulars the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7694">TS</a>]
02:08:18 ◼ ► Yosemite doc exudes a visual confidence that has been sorely missed in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7698">TS</a>]
02:08:23 ◼ ► few releases of OS 10 like I i to me the doc exemplifies what yosemite is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7703">TS</a>]
02:08:29 ◼ ► shooting for ya and as I said to be it the ideal scenario for you to show off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7709">TS</a>]
02:08:35 ◼ ► my brain see because the icons are so like you're not going to lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7715">TS</a>]
02:08:39 ◼ ► no matter what crazy crap is going on with the background image of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7719">TS</a>]
02:08:42 ◼ ► screenshot of like a look at how green it looks here look it up here the icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7722">TS</a>]
02:08:45 ◼ ► stand so proud of that interface you're not going to get lost you're not trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7725">TS</a>]
02:08:50 ◼ ► to read a bunch of texts and you have full freedom on that background where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7730">TS</a>]
02:08:54 ◼ ► otherwise no information be conveyed to show off the school effect that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7734">TS</a>]
02:08:57 ◼ ► done everything we've learned poll for a different colors in saturated it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7737">TS</a>]
02:09:01 ◼ ► beautiful it's interesting and it you know it conveys this is a piece of glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7741">TS</a>]
02:09:07 ◼ ► or translucent thing laying over stuff like that is the ideal environment for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7747">TS</a>]
02:09:10 ◼ ► this for this type of fact because it doesn't impair anything at all really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7750">TS</a>]
02:09:15 ◼ ► and even like the parts are you hover and you get the text those they gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7755">TS</a>]
02:09:18 ◼ ► dedicated backgrounds that ok well now it's time for you to read text I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7758">TS</a>]
02:09:22 ◼ ► gonna mess around here I'm going to give you it is almost a fairly opaque light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7762">TS</a>]
02:09:26 ◼ ► colored background with dark you know text on top of it or the reverse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7766">TS</a>]
02:09:30 ◼ ► dark mode to make sure you can read the text for the hunters and everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7770">TS</a>]
02:09:33 ◼ ► that but doc itself would be fine figure it out no more ridge's no more weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7773">TS</a>]
02:09:38 ◼ ► frills no down nine angle and shiny things on it no reflections of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7778">TS</a>]
02:09:42 ◼ ► windows that are going above it like it's been a long road for the dog I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7782">TS</a>]
02:09:46 ◼ ► think the Mavericks doctors and probably the best 3d doctor the kind of like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7786">TS</a>]
02:09:49 ◼ ► that you know not brush metal across something else in the parlance of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7789">TS</a>]
02:09:55 ◼ ► Mac but like sort of a matte finish metal type of thing the 3d effects still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7795">TS</a>]
02:09:59 ◼ ► just does not work and should never have been done but that one of the most class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7799">TS</a>]
02:10:03 ◼ ► but I was like we're done with that phase here's what the doc looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7803">TS</a>]
02:10:07 ◼ ► look the same vertical and horizontal this is the doc which is kind of a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7807">TS</a>]
02:10:11 ◼ ► but it was never documented future anyway what was pending top and bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7811">TS</a>]
02:10:15 ◼ ► yea doc centered on the edge of the screen people love to paint a top or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7815">TS</a>]
02:10:19 ◼ ► bottom I suspect that maybe one thing that they are personified get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7819">TS</a>]
02:10:23 ◼ ► complaints about it even though it was undocumented people who have been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7823">TS</a>]
02:10:26 ◼ ► it and doing it since like you know whenever whenever the undocumented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7826">TS</a>]
02:10:29 ◼ ► feature was added whatever Developer Preview thats you can say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7829">TS</a>]
02:10:33 ◼ ► undocumented but once you've been doing it for 10 15 years as the faults right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7833">TS</a>]
02:10:38 ◼ ► thing yet did you just give it a preference was you know a preference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7838">TS</a>]
02:10:43 ◼ ► that you just put into terminal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7843">TS</a>]
02:10:45 ◼ ► and then I remember that com com that Apple dock pinning starter and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7845">TS</a>]
02:10:50 ◼ ► what's that app from the guy in Germany thats just just like a friend and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7850">TS</a>]
02:10:54 ◼ ► the references I like secrets or just from the guy who made Quiksilver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7854">TS</a>]
02:10:58 ◼ ► internet shared database of this type of things with a million applications you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7858">TS</a>]
02:11:03 ◼ ► know either show you what those commands are or run for a I think again I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7863">TS</a>]
02:11:13 ◼ ► its obvious but that this interface is so clearly defined designed retina first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7873">TS</a>]
02:11:21 ◼ ► and how it looks on non random acts is you know we'll make the best of it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7881">TS</a>]
02:11:27 ◼ ► it's so clearly a retina first design and I guess I should have it should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7887">TS</a>]
02:11:34 ◼ ► been a sign when we saw it at the BBC it should have been a sign that read like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7894">TS</a>]
02:11:39 ◼ ► this would be the year we're gonna get red IMAX because I don't think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7899">TS</a>]
02:11:42 ◼ ► coincidence that their debuting at the same time as as an interface that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7902">TS</a>]
02:11:48 ◼ ► clearly is meant to be seen on the retina display but even if we weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7908">TS</a>]
02:11:53 ◼ ► getting around desktop Macs this year they still have to design a friendly gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7913">TS</a>]
02:11:57 ◼ ► to be forward-looking no sense in making a brand new look for the Mac at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7917">TS</a>]
02:12:01 ◼ ► point in time even if right now we're gonna go over two years you just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7921">TS</a>]
02:12:05 ◼ ► you have to say it like you have to be forward-looking about the SEC which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7925">TS</a>]
02:12:08 ◼ ► why I hope to god whatever new filesystem Apple must surely be working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7928">TS</a>]
02:12:12 ◼ ► on is made entirely with SSDs in my like screw spinning disks I know this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7932">TS</a>]
02:12:15 ◼ ► around I know people can use it for years but if you're doing something now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7935">TS</a>]
02:12:18 ◼ ► you have to be forward-looking yeah I totally agree that it's a good point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7938">TS</a>]
02:12:23 ◼ ► that it would make sense maybe even make it so that doesn't even run on an honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7943">TS</a>]
02:12:28 ◼ ► nine assists easy to use a plus to the end of time on your spinning hard deaths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7948">TS</a>]
02:12:34 ◼ ► don't smoke them a chance to really something I think that the choice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7954">TS</a>]
02:12:39 ◼ ► Helvetica Neue in particular is is the clearest sign that it's meant to be seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7959">TS</a>]
02:12:47 ◼ ► on rent first cuz it as I look at yosemite on a non it's the type that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7967">TS</a>]
02:12:52 ◼ ► really annoys people upset that I didn't make more of that in my review and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7972">TS</a>]
02:12:58 ◼ ► reunited make marvelous excite truly believe most people will not even notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7978">TS</a>]
02:13:02 ◼ ► I know that is inconceivable to those of us who are like diapers and I'm not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7982">TS</a>]
02:13:05 ◼ ► that big of time murder but it bothers me on random acts and it's not like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7985">TS</a>]
02:13:10 ◼ ► you might you might have not read the max for a while right but like but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7990">TS</a>]
02:13:15 ◼ ► I i'm not as bothered by it as you aren't as many BR but I truly think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7995">TS</a>]
02:13:19 ◼ ► regular people will just absolutely not noticed the text even if you put side by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/7999">TS</a>]
02:13:24 ◼ ► side they know people are just not sensitive maybe if you had changed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8004">TS</a>]
02:13:29 ◼ ► brush Script alike you know Cairo people would notice but not noticed you change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8009">TS</a>]
02:13:35 ◼ ► from one sensor on to another cycle notice I noticed that it's not really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8015">TS</a>]
02:13:41 ◼ ► vatican noise it's it's a system fun I found where it lives must be somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8021">TS</a>]
02:13:46 ◼ ► in / library and used to be available in the File menu in the early eighties when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8026">TS</a>]
02:13:51 ◼ ► they took it out of there but yes hiding in the end and 21 not for any reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8031">TS</a>]
02:13:55 ◼ ► like makes sense sir Michael well we want to make a readable system because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8035">TS</a>]
02:14:00 ◼ ► they had to make the metrics match so it's kind of it's kind of perverted by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8040">TS</a>]
02:14:02 ◼ ► the need to match metric so I think it's basically a clearer than it needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8042">TS</a>]
02:14:07 ◼ ► so it's the same with our closest possible I think that's exactly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8047">TS</a>]
02:14:12 ◼ ► well and it works a little better and it's a little bit of a concession or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8052">TS</a>]
02:14:17 ◼ ► even a little bit I actually know that they spent an awful lot of time once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8057">TS</a>]
02:14:20 ◼ ► they decide okay we're gonna go to have addict and we still got all of these nan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8060">TS</a>]
02:14:24 ◼ ► Ren maximum support for years to come and in some cases they might even be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8064">TS</a>]
02:14:30 ◼ ► right you know who knows when the Mac Pro is going to be able to support Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8070">TS</a>]
02:14:37 ◼ ► MacBook Air rumors say is gonna go read there soonish but it's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8077">TS</a>]
02:14:45 ◼ ► gotta support on rent them for a long time they spend a lot of time tweaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8085">TS</a>]
02:14:50 ◼ ► the metrics not just to make it match loosen up but also to make sure that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8090">TS</a>]
02:14:57 ◼ ► you know that it at the sizes that it's used as a system fun that it hits the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8097">TS</a>]
02:15:02 ◼ ► pics are boundaries as often as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8102">TS</a>]
02:15:05 ◼ ► hello and hello becomes just one big indistinct blurred looks like I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8105">TS</a>]
02:15:09 ◼ ► sick capitalized or something right I get my favorite example so there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8109">TS</a>]
02:15:13 ◼ ► of a lot of apps it's a standard menu and cocoa the Format menu in the menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8113">TS</a>]
02:15:18 ◼ ► bar if you look at least on a Retina display and I don't have a yosemite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8118">TS</a>]
02:15:22 ◼ ► non-random retina display at least the are in the end there's clearly some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8122">TS</a>]
02:15:28 ◼ ► space between them whereas if you just open a text edit documents at the fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8128">TS</a>]
02:15:32 ◼ ► tell him that i annoy like 1618 or whatever it is and type the word format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8132">TS</a>]
02:15:37 ◼ ► are in the AM gonna touch and it's gonna look you know unless you know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8137">TS</a>]
02:15:42 ◼ ► it's just one of those you just have to know the word you can't tell which ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8142">TS</a>]
02:15:45 ◼ ► the AM in with you know it all looks like a bunch of humps next to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8145">TS</a>]
02:15:49 ◼ ► and not a ligature you don't think it's not just that it's that the default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8149">TS</a>]
02:15:54 ◼ ► caring for Helvetica Neue is tight enough that the Word format at that size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8154">TS</a>]
02:15:58 ◼ ► is gonna blur together which is one of those things that people don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8158">TS</a>]
02:16:03 ◼ ► don't like what else like the word window even is sort of currents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8163">TS</a>]
02:16:10 ◼ ► differently if you use real Helvetica Neue you know the way that the W [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8170">TS</a>]
02:16:15 ◼ ► Slam tennis at the W you know has space next to it with the eye that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8175">TS</a>]
02:16:19 ◼ ► dialogue is it gonna get lost in the W [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8179">TS</a>]
02:16:22 ◼ ► it's very thoughtful I makes me wonder why they don't use that I guess it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8182">TS</a>]
02:16:27 ◼ ► cause of the metrics why like on Iowa State is used Helvetica Neue there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8187">TS</a>]
02:16:31 ◼ ► special version of it for the system fun to my knowledge and i was line has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8191">TS</a>]
02:16:37 ◼ ► essentially these on the iPad Mini yeah waistline has been in red no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8197">TS</a>]
02:16:45 ◼ ► you know again forward-looking like to make these devices there there are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8205">TS</a>]
02:16:49 ◼ ► to be ready soon enough because the screen just enough we know we can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8209">TS</a>]
02:16:53 ◼ ► design and interface specially designed interface that is aimed at a World [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8213">TS</a>]
02:16:59 ◼ ► barreled into icy road because they're going to be that way really soon yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8219">TS</a>]
02:17:02 ◼ ► Fisher syllabus whipped and will call the show because it's been a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8222">TS</a>]
02:17:10 ◼ ► but I i from your review here from my notes on page 16 year old among a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8230">TS</a>]
02:17:16 ◼ ► certain set of Mac enthusiasts it was a point of pride to have many rows of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8236">TS</a>]
02:17:20 ◼ ► icons filling the startup screen that's a reference to the classic Mac OS where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8240">TS</a>]
02:17:25 ◼ ► the whole section where you're talking about old style extensions that just ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8245">TS</a>]
02:17:30 ◼ ► into memory space of every app or in the system space you know the system as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8250">TS</a>]
02:17:35 ◼ ► always all the same system and i was just wondering memory region carved up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8255">TS</a>]
02:17:41 ◼ ► into pieces and I made me laugh because I remember thinking about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8261">TS</a>]
02:17:46 ◼ ► like when I first started becoming a Mac nerd it was absolutely a point of pride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8266">TS</a>]
02:17:50 ◼ ► to have as many of those possible but there there was like if you kept going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8270">TS</a>]
02:17:55 ◼ ► and became more informed a little bit more mature it started becoming at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8275">TS</a>]
02:18:00 ◼ ► highest levels it became more of a point of pride to have its few of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8280">TS</a>]
02:18:03 ◼ ► is possible that the pride in having a lot of them wasn't so much that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8283">TS</a>]
02:18:08 ◼ ► machine Michelle tricked out but that you had figured out the correct low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8288">TS</a>]
02:18:10 ◼ ► daughter and incompatibility that you can actually run this many and they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8290">TS</a>]
02:18:14 ◼ ► worked because there was always likely gotta love this first and this has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8294">TS</a>]
02:18:17 ◼ ► here and these two are talking about a lazy enabled us when you have to disable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8297">TS</a>]
02:18:20 ◼ ► these do but this when you can still keep moving after that like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8300">TS</a>]
02:18:23 ◼ ► conflict catcher is made for like that not only did you had all the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8303">TS</a>]
02:18:28 ◼ ► that you had figured out how to make it into a stable system and then yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8308">TS</a>]
02:18:31 ◼ ► eventually you get sick of spending your time playing with conflict catcher you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8311">TS</a>]
02:18:35 ◼ ► like to really need Adobe Type Manager doing really really need to have any fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8315">TS</a>]
02:18:38 ◼ ► still actually like you know something's gotta go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8318">TS</a>]
02:18:41 ◼ ► managers big so a team goes out the door as she always had to run a 10 doing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8321">TS</a>]
02:18:47 ◼ ► was doing design work but ATM was a good example where is the character we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8327">TS</a>]
02:18:52 ◼ ► everybody I mean it shipped from Adobe with like I think the tilde character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8332">TS</a>]
02:18:55 ◼ ► and front like the extension till killed the ATM because on the old Mac OS till [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8335">TS</a>]
02:19:01 ◼ ► this sorted alphabetically first because it had to load first or was it last but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8341">TS</a>]
02:19:09 ◼ ► did you know that and and putting funny characters pretty things in your Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8349">TS</a>]
02:19:14 ◼ ► menu folder how many items sold it to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8354">TS</a>]
02:19:17 ◼ ► yeah but that was a very different world tonight but that if you live through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8357">TS</a>]
02:19:23 ◼ ► that you you understand like the whole thing with extensions like I was someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8363">TS</a>]
02:19:33 ◼ ► down the whole time right and we're all that we were on ways to extend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8373">TS</a>]
02:19:37 ◼ ► system like keyboards or like bad having share powell's include our stuff in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8377">TS</a>]
02:19:41 ◼ ► all these things like ammonia way do so that it may be a way to do it for iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8381">TS</a>]
02:19:45 ◼ ► right but on a Mac even an OS 10 we don't have these memory patching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8385">TS</a>]
02:19:49 ◼ ► essential we had we had all sorts of people have found ways using simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8389">TS</a>]
02:19:52 ◼ ► extensions or remark injected get your coat in there like this automatic needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8392">TS</a>]
02:19:57 ◼ ► extensions I was 10 has extensions and the reason that Apple said we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8397">TS</a>]
02:20:01 ◼ ► make the suspension system priority is going to be safe and sandbox know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8401">TS</a>]
02:20:04 ◼ ► you know things are doing we're also gonna do it for the Mac because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8404">TS</a>]
02:20:08 ◼ ► part of the unification of the platform why should we not have you can't deceive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8408">TS</a>]
02:20:13 ◼ ► can't be sorting out ways to extend again to craft your way and it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8413">TS</a>]
02:20:18 ◼ ► dangerous but we don't need to bother with that number ttyl max anyway the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8418">TS</a>]
02:20:21 ◼ ► Apple is it we have an awesome way to make extensions were gonna deployed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8421">TS</a>]
02:20:26 ◼ ► everywhere the Mexican again I was gonna get it if there's a way to do it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8426">TS</a>]
02:20:29 ◼ ► watch that's going to get it too and that's that's a different philosophy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8429">TS</a>]
02:20:33 ◼ ► like if you lived through the bad old days of these are two rows of icons you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8433">TS</a>]
02:20:37 ◼ ► understand and deepen your bones what is wrong with letting other people software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8437">TS</a>]
02:20:40 ◼ ► enter your memories racing school with your applications and so any type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8440">TS</a>]
02:20:45 ◼ ► extension mechanism that avoids all those evils yes please bring it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8445">TS</a>]
02:20:50 ◼ ► you know extensions now we have all these weird extensions that can do weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8450">TS</a>]
02:20:53 ◼ ► things your Mac even in August and we just want better ones we don't we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8453">TS</a>]
02:20:57 ◼ ► want to be one never want to be close to re-creating that bad old world of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8457">TS</a>]
02:21:00 ◼ ► those rows of icons yeah we want the future and it's but we don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8460">TS</a>]
02:21:05 ◼ ► you're technically informed at all you don't want the buggy ramifications and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8465">TS</a>]
02:21:12 ◼ ► backed off like I used a lot more memory passing mention the early days of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8472">TS</a>]
02:21:16 ◼ ► 10 lot of it to you know backfill functionality that wasn't in the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8476">TS</a>]
02:21:19 ◼ ► itself and I just slowly pair of those things down like I ran application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8479">TS</a>]
02:21:23 ◼ ► extent answer AP from the insanity guys around for years and years within a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8483">TS</a>]
02:21:27 ◼ ► certain point it was like enough is enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8487">TS</a>]
02:21:30 ◼ ► I'm only using it for 12 things I can't live without them like a window shades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8490">TS</a>]
02:21:34 ◼ ► last month ago so I really truly love that I wish I could get it back now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8494">TS</a>]
02:21:37 ◼ ► clean hooks into the OS but the real API is that don't involve invading memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8497">TS</a>]
02:21:42 ◼ ► space of another process that's what we've always wanted the whole time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8502">TS</a>]
02:21:46 ◼ ► now Apple's only providing that so I hope every every existing Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8506">TS</a>]
02:21:50 ◼ ► mechanism is there still wants Apple supported ones like a no text input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8510">TS</a>]
02:21:54 ◼ ► methods and also those things that actually will load you put something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8514">TS</a>]
02:21:56 ◼ ► a special folder you lunch application and the friendly cocoa frameworks will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8516">TS</a>]
02:22:00 ◼ ► look in that folder thing and loaded into the application and you're supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8520">TS</a>]
02:22:02 ◼ ► to be well behaved and not do anything nasty and you know but like not supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8522">TS</a>]
02:22:07 ◼ ► to implement something that changes when you double-click at the top of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8527">TS</a>]
02:22:12 ◼ ► window yeah but like once you're in there like that's why you know scripting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8532">TS</a>]
02:22:15 ◼ ► additions were like a gateway into the thinkers simple extensions like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8535">TS</a>]
02:22:20 ◼ ► we have all these things but some of them are officially out even like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8540">TS</a>]
02:22:24 ◼ ► menu bar icons someone was trying to correct me if I'm pretty sure someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8544">TS</a>]
02:22:28 ◼ ► can send a correction to you that if you write a badly behaved menu bar you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8548">TS</a>]
02:22:33 ◼ ► I contact thing you can press a crash system UI server because you're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8553">TS</a>]
02:22:36 ◼ ► in the mix their maybe maybe that's not the case now if you'd asked at a bar set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8556">TS</a>]
02:22:40 ◼ ► of the item instead of the new actress thing that supposed to be undocumented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8560">TS</a>]
02:22:45 ◼ ► but there's still lots of officially supported Apple things where you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8565">TS</a>]
02:22:49 ◼ ► your code into someone else's memory space and all those mechanisms I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8569">TS</a>]
02:22:53 ◼ ► a officially supported you know separate process extension mechanism like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8573">TS</a>]
02:22:58 ◼ ► that you know the ones that are near 70 because I like all that functionality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8578">TS</a>]
02:23:01 ◼ ► elected even better if you can make it safer so that badly behaved extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8581">TS</a>]
02:23:05 ◼ ► can crash my appt the the part of your review that I thought I was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8585">TS</a>]
02:23:11 ◼ ► surprised he spent as much space on it was swift and after reading it made all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8591">TS</a>]
02:23:18 ◼ ► the sense in the world and I thought it was really really good I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8598">TS</a>]
02:23:20 ◼ ► you know but that's why I like your reviews is your you always surprise me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8600">TS</a>]
02:23:24 ◼ ► with something good I didn't anticipate your writing that much about swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8604">TS</a>]
02:23:27 ◼ ► because I didn't see swift as you seventy feature I just saw it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8607">TS</a>]
02:23:30 ◼ ► something that coincidentally was it 2014 thing that Apple did and you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8610">TS</a>]
02:23:35 ◼ ► S 870 just happened to be the first new OS is that you know that you can right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8615">TS</a>]
02:23:40 ◼ ► now that's like an ATP like I found myself in WVC sitting in metal sessions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8620">TS</a>]
02:23:47 ◼ ► and taking notes right like what am I doing this isn't this is an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8627">TS</a>]
02:23:51 ◼ ► technology medals for iOS only like why am I even bought but like it's because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8631">TS</a>]
02:23:55 ◼ ► was starting to view everything that Apple did not as like oh this is a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8635">TS</a>]
02:24:00 ◼ ► technology this is an Irish technology but like these are Apple's platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8640">TS</a>]
02:24:03 ◼ ► technologies and even though medals in on the Mac now there's no reason it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8643">TS</a>]
02:24:06 ◼ ► can't be in the future and even though so after not specific to extend its just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8646">TS</a>]
02:24:09 ◼ ► as applicable to a standard that is the iOS right i mean the other reason of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8649">TS</a>]
02:24:13 ◼ ► course I made as a big section of this is the two recent one there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8653">TS</a>]
02:24:17 ◼ ► something that I put in their view that I know almost nobody cares about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8657">TS</a>]
02:24:21 ◼ ► data right oblique the disproportionate amount about maybe not as much as I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8661">TS</a>]
02:24:25 ◼ ► you know I read a whole section on launch day at one point no one has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8665">TS</a>]
02:24:28 ◼ ► launched except for me so you know like that it was interesting to me and I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8668">TS</a>]
02:24:33 ◼ ► I I give myself that I in the second thing is cuz I have a personal history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8673">TS</a>]
02:24:36 ◼ ► with like the whole clamoring for a new language and everything and I have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8676">TS</a>]
02:24:40 ◼ ► say I was going to do it and I always tell people I think your take is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8680">TS</a>]
02:24:44 ◼ ► interesting and it's the reaction that people at large have had to Swift is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8684">TS</a>]
02:24:49 ◼ ► curious to me because I see an awful a person's WBC and continuing until now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8689">TS</a>]
02:24:58 ◼ ► from developers of about swift it to me just seems uncalled for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8698">TS</a>]
02:25:05 ◼ ► like it's it's the first version they just came out with it it's going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8705">TS</a>]
02:25:10 ◼ ► like all programming languages do like the thing is though is that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8710">TS</a>]
02:25:15 ◼ ► showing it to us by Apple standards extraordinarily early and letting us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8715">TS</a>]
02:25:21 ◼ ► learning are here is what we're thinking you know here's our idea for the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8721">TS</a>]
02:25:25 ◼ ► generation language for writing apps for our platforms in a very early stage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8725">TS</a>]
02:25:30 ◼ ► then they they've already incorporated a slew of feedback from the outside its it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8730">TS</a>]
02:25:36 ◼ ► to me in a broad sense it's exactly what we've a lot of us have been hoping to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8736">TS</a>]
02:25:40 ◼ ► see from Apple not just regarding developer tools but just Apple in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8740">TS</a>]
02:25:43 ◼ ► general of don't don't be sad you read about this in numerous times they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8743">TS</a>]
02:25:48 ◼ ► just take seven smart people and put them aside and let them work for five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8748">TS</a>]
02:25:51 ◼ ► years and come out with a thin because no matter how smart they are how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8751">TS</a>]
02:25:55 ◼ ► talented they are they're going to have their own personal idiosyncrasies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8755">TS</a>]
02:25:59 ◼ ► are going to lead them to overlook certain things you know that that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8759">TS</a>]
02:26:04 ◼ ► wouldn't if it was exposed to the world at large but now he you know they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8764">TS</a>]
02:26:08 ◼ ► they've finished in they've given it to us and here it is right like if they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8768">TS</a>]
02:26:12 ◼ ► been working on swift for another two years and then came out with it but said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8772">TS</a>]
02:26:18 ◼ ► it wouldn't have incorporated all sorts of things that they're incorporating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8778">TS</a>]
02:26:21 ◼ ► about it but they're getting they're getting flak for it like the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8781">TS</a>]
02:26:25 ◼ ► it's changed so much just since WWDC well I think you've kind of made their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8785">TS</a>]
02:26:29 ◼ ► arguing for them in some respects this two-part this one is a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8789">TS</a>]
02:26:33 ◼ ► about swift are not are fundamental to the philosophy embody byline which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8793">TS</a>]
02:26:38 ◼ ► mostly having to do with like how how how method calls are bound to like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8798">TS</a>]
02:26:43 ◼ ► what implementation happens when I call this method are basically method calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8803">TS</a>]
02:26:46 ◼ ► instead of message-passing order philosophically late binding versus only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8806">TS</a>]
02:26:50 ◼ ► binding and swift is dead bodies have everything statically figured out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8810">TS</a>]
02:26:53 ◼ ► know what code what could you know you type something here looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8813">TS</a>]
02:26:56 ◼ ► function call what implementation is actually runs with wants to know compile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8816">TS</a>]
02:27:00 ◼ ► time Objective C its runtime is like our dynamic dispatch I can figure out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8820">TS</a>]
02:27:05 ◼ ► it is you can do method swiveling you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8825">TS</a>]
02:27:07 ◼ ► for method names out of strings and call them that philosophical divide is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8827">TS</a>]
02:27:12 ◼ ► something that's going to be changed with the tweak to language no swift can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8832">TS</a>]
02:27:15 ◼ ► use the Objective C wrong time as you if you object knows all the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8835">TS</a>]
02:27:20 ◼ ► philosophical divide dynamic versus static that's that's just an a an honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8840">TS</a>]
02:27:26 ◼ ► difference between people who like that aspect of Objective C and the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8846">TS</a>]
02:27:29 ◼ ► design swift for saying that type of town guests back to makes whole classes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8849">TS</a>]
02:27:34 ◼ ► optimization impossible for us because we can't see through the call boundary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8854">TS</a>]
02:27:37 ◼ ► to understand how we can optimize across across that call is we don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8857">TS</a>]
02:27:41 ◼ ► what the hell's going to call and so that's a philosophical difference in no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8861">TS</a>]
02:27:45 ◼ ► matter week is gonna change and the second thing is the idea that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8865">TS</a>]
02:27:47 ◼ ► putting it out early and doing doing these two weeks today that the minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8867">TS</a>]
02:27:50 ◼ ► details and stuff like that you know the complaint against that possibly by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8870">TS</a>]
02:27:55 ◼ ► different people you know I really can't win here to please everybody is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8875">TS</a>]
02:28:00 ◼ ► place which is great and all but it would have been like they think that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8880">TS</a>]
02:28:04 ◼ ► was basically these guys going off and some smart guys came out with this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8884">TS</a>]
02:28:07 ◼ ► we really would have loved to have you had built a major application with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8887">TS</a>]
02:28:11 ◼ ► language first and then presented to us like give you a dog food today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8891">TS</a>]
02:28:14 ◼ ► longer because if your dog food and you would have found all the same exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8894">TS</a>]
02:28:18 ◼ ► things were finding like how many times they tweaked out interacts with like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8898">TS</a>]
02:28:21 ◼ ► core foundation in Objective C API like the various idioms of how'd because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8901">TS</a>]
02:28:26 ◼ ► didn't write no new framework they need his language or existing frameworks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8906">TS</a>]
02:28:30 ◼ ► the end it's not quite an exact match they have to come up with conventions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8910">TS</a>]
02:28:33 ◼ ► like when you call one of these things we're gonna do this summer and like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8913">TS</a>]
02:28:36 ◼ ► these different dimensions how to handle in a terrible grammar errors and mapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8916">TS</a>]
02:28:40 ◼ ► between optionals which exists in swift and like nail and optional like that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8920">TS</a>]
02:28:45 ◼ ► Objective C how to be crosses boundaries if they had used swift to write a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8925">TS</a>]
02:28:50 ◼ ► application that this is so the argument goes they would have figured a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8930">TS</a>]
02:28:55 ◼ ► stuff out on their own instead of bringing out bringing out to a so early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8935">TS</a>]
02:28:59 ◼ ► it seems like this has kept him really private to a small group of people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8939">TS</a>]
02:29:02 ◼ ► now you're throwing on top of us go it's not ready now that's kind of self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8942">TS</a>]
02:29:06 ◼ ► countries I want you want you want to really do want to be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8946">TS</a>]
02:29:09 ◼ ► you don't you want to have feedback but different people want different things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8949">TS</a>]
02:29:13 ◼ ► is not like a single person is trying to ask people to do things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8953">TS</a>]
02:29:17 ◼ ► completely contradictory its different groups of people on different things so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8957">TS</a>]
02:29:20 ◼ ► yeah I mean I think I think it would look like in 1989 whatever I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8960">TS</a>]
02:29:26 ◼ ► see it looks like now and like the end that the pace of development of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8966">TS</a>]
02:29:29 ◼ ► electricity has accelerated so much in the past few years that I'm willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8969">TS</a>]
02:29:33 ◼ ► give swift a lot of leeway to get things right but philosophically speaking if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8973">TS</a>]
02:29:39 ◼ ► you have a disagreement like you know the dynamic dispatch anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8979">TS</a>]
02:29:42 ◼ ► that I don't see you know that's just going to have to be in a disagreement I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8982">TS</a>]
02:29:46 ◼ ► don't think that's going to change that much you know 'cause that's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8986">TS</a>]
02:29:49 ◼ ► ideas like is a dynamic by defaulting to get tied down or sit static by default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8989">TS</a>]
02:29:53 ◼ ► and you can make it dynamic and very much and then the campus static by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8993">TS</a>]
02:29:57 ◼ ► fault and you have the ability to make certain things dynamic and other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8997">TS</a>]
02:29:59 ◼ ► I know you got the default should be the other way but it's a comin for ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/8999">TS</a>]
02:30:04 ◼ ► reading your your review and and what you had to say about swift and I i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9004">TS</a>]
02:30:09 ◼ ► it to me it's it's you know the right way to have about this like you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9009">TS</a>]
02:30:14 ◼ ► admit that there's aspects of the language that you as a programmer aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9014">TS</a>]
02:30:19 ◼ ► you're not you don't like having you know the Senate typing but you don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9019">TS</a>]
02:30:29 ◼ ► don't take that as therefore it bad right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9029">TS</a>]
02:30:32 ◼ ► statically typed languages or bad it is a perfect you know that's so much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9032">TS</a>]
02:30:37 ◼ ► internet is is not being able to acknowledge ok I disagree with that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9037">TS</a>]
02:30:41 ◼ ► dislike that but that I i cant knowledge that that is a valid valid philosophy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9041">TS</a>]
02:30:48 ◼ ► house and especially since they stated their goals this is the type of language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9048">TS</a>]
02:30:53 ◼ ► we want to make and you can evaluate how well this is achieved their own stated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9053">TS</a>]
02:30:57 ◼ ► goals and then you can also like like it a lot of the argument against website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9057">TS</a>]
02:31:01 ◼ ► maybe you disagree with the goals then fine then what you say is you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9061">TS</a>]
02:31:04 ◼ ► never tried to make a language that is is convened a scripting language but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9064">TS</a>]
02:31:08 ◼ ► can write how s because you you make a crappy like a jack of all trades master [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9068">TS</a>]
02:31:12 ◼ ► of none like feel free to argue with the premises in the mission statement but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9072">TS</a>]
02:31:15 ◼ ► that is a separate argument which you can have from if I accept this mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9075">TS</a>]
02:31:19 ◼ ► statement you know how well this will fulfill that mission and what were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9079">TS</a>]
02:31:25 ◼ ► how to do it like that the most interesting thing to me because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9085">TS</a>]
02:31:28 ◼ ► the mission is incredibly ambitious like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9088">TS</a>]
02:31:30 ◼ ► only an apple move like it is very gutsy and very ambitious and not cuz it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9090">TS</a>]
02:31:35 ◼ ► doing whatever it seemed really wanted to like just make me a better nicer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9095">TS</a>]
02:31:39 ◼ ► Objective C that's all I want don't try to make some crazy language that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9099">TS</a>]
02:31:42 ◼ ► think you can use for everything I could you could you know because if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9102">TS</a>]
02:31:45 ◼ ► at the software stack like you have things that are written in C and even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9105">TS</a>]
02:31:49 ◼ ► C++ and then you have things that are in Objective C and why are these three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9109">TS</a>]
02:31:53 ◼ ► languages there well for the really low level stuff like the current all in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9113">TS</a>]
02:31:56 ◼ ► it maybe even like you know CoreFoundation and then we have the C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9116">TS</a>]
02:32:00 ◼ ► and C++ of those things but them like the higher-level former soldier in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9120">TS</a>]
02:32:03 ◼ ► Objective C and so if the saying why can't we have one language that spans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9123">TS</a>]
02:32:06 ◼ ► the whole range of 19 which may be wrong about the colonel in just yet but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9126">TS</a>]
02:32:10 ◼ ► could have really wanted to because we wouldn't have to worry about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9130">TS</a>]
02:32:13 ◼ ► performance hit right because it can be as fast as a low-level languages but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9133">TS</a>]
02:32:17 ◼ ► can go all the way up to hey you just want a bunch of stuff and you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9137">TS</a>]
02:32:22 ◼ ► hashed bang user been swift and just start typing and you want to create you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9142">TS</a>]
02:32:26 ◼ ► want to create a string just by typing you know quotation mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9146">TS</a>]
02:32:31 ◼ ► here's the string like all the things we love about JavaScript Perl or Python and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9151">TS</a>]
02:32:38 ◼ ► make one language its fans that whole range because it's an ambitious goal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9158">TS</a>]
02:32:42 ◼ ► it would be great for Apple they can pull it off like hey finally we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9162">TS</a>]
02:32:45 ◼ ► have to hire C developer C++ object to see developers and maintaining compile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9165">TS</a>]
02:32:50 ◼ ► data compiled three different standards yes i-ninety diocese lost 11 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9170">TS</a>]
02:32:54 ◼ ► whatever the hell we doing to Objective C if we just make one language that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9174">TS</a>]
02:32:58 ◼ ► control everything about that it's our thing that spans the entire range of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9178">TS</a>]
02:33:01 ◼ ► boy wouldn't that be amazing and maybe they're biting off more than they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9181">TS</a>]
02:33:04 ◼ ► chew but I admire the ambition and my question is how the hell you gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9184">TS</a>]
02:33:07 ◼ ► that and so I wanted to delve into how do you make a language is easy to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9187">TS</a>]
02:33:12 ◼ ► the parts that you type like you could just a blah blah blah our language will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9192">TS</a>]
02:33:15 ◼ ► have this here's the key word here is a syntax and then go to track empower them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9195">TS</a>]
02:33:19 ◼ ► extends out into code that runs that's the hard part you know how do you how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9199">TS</a>]
02:33:23 ◼ ► you get from something looks like JavaScript up early review Python but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9203">TS</a>]
02:33:27 ◼ ► fast to see and that's what I spent the entire second was rude delving into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9207">TS</a>]
02:33:31 ◼ ► because I think it's interesting and definitely a change of pace from the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9211">TS</a>]
02:33:36 ◼ ► Apple has done to you know compiler software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9216">TS</a>]
02:33:39 ◼ ► and certainly a change of pace from the way JavaScript when times are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9219">TS</a>]
02:33:42 ◼ ► implemented or Java runtime certainly Ruby Python Perl that stuff yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9222">TS</a>]
02:33:47 ◼ ► it's evident and it's funny because you know so many Apple employees are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9227">TS</a>]
02:33:52 ◼ ► never in public and never named and you know how they're inside the company but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9232">TS</a>]
02:34:00 ◼ ► you know because Chris Lattner started LVM project outside Apple you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9240">TS</a>]
02:34:06 ◼ ► then they marlys it wasn't a company is an open source project but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9246">TS</a>]
02:34:10 ◼ ► effectively Akwa hired him when they bought it you know they effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9250">TS</a>]
02:34:15 ◼ ► bought the open source project when they brought him on board but he's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9255">TS</a>]
02:34:20 ◼ ► that's clearly to be you know it's very obvious like you said that there have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9260">TS</a>]
02:34:24 ◼ ► been in the rate of change of objective see improvements over the last few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9264">TS</a>]
02:34:28 ◼ ► has been impressive well it coincides with the LLVM here and they got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9268">TS</a>]
02:34:34 ◼ ► complaint they took control of the compiler brother you know what they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9274">TS</a>]
02:34:38 ◼ ► shown in control the key technologies for a platform to compile is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9278">TS</a>]
02:34:40 ◼ ► those technologies wire using gcc it's hampering our ability to extend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9280">TS</a>]
02:34:44 ◼ ► language temporary and optimizes hampering their ability to make sure I D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9284">TS</a>]
02:34:47 ◼ ► that is multi multi year transition slowly slowly getting away from Dec to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9287">TS</a>]
02:34:53 ◼ ► be fully on LVM based compiler and then like they're off to the races and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9293">TS</a>]
02:34:57 ◼ ► you said you have to look back to what are the goals of the project GCC is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9297">TS</a>]
02:35:01 ◼ ► fantastic project it is one of the most successful computer science projects in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9301">TS</a>]
02:35:07 ◼ ► history but its stated goal is to be a universal compiler for any and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9307">TS</a>]
02:35:13 ◼ ► platforms and the fact that it succeeded at that is why it was there for next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9313">TS</a>]
02:35:19 ◼ ► use when they started bolting on Objective C features to see back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9319">TS</a>]
02:35:25 ◼ ► eighties it's the fact that GCC was there and aimed to be universal was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9325">TS</a>]
02:35:32 ◼ ► reason that they can get it to work but then the fact that it's universal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9332">TS</a>]
02:35:36 ◼ ► it's apparently convolution oh really really impenetrable old code base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9336">TS</a>]
02:35:42 ◼ ► eventually just really hampered their ability to move forward and it was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9342">TS</a>]
02:35:47 ◼ ► old like as an old code base and and and anything you did its kind of do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9347">TS</a>]
02:35:52 ◼ ► W three see you know anything you did icon has to be your needs aren't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9352">TS</a>]
02:35:57 ◼ ► only needs here there are other stakeholders you gotta have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9357">TS</a>]
02:36:00 ◼ ► agreement from all parties involved in this is a thing that you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9360">TS</a>]
02:36:03 ◼ ► because there's just one codebase whereas Apple doesn't anyone's ok to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9363">TS</a>]
02:36:06 ◼ ► it the hell they want with their compiler and it's not quite like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9366">TS</a>]
02:36:10 ◼ ► those clang and that's not that's a C C++ compiler those are open source there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9370">TS</a>]
02:36:14 ◼ ► are other people that are using them Apple can just do whatever the hell they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9374">TS</a>]
02:36:17 ◼ ► want with that type of things that made it up with a forecast of the people of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9377">TS</a>]
02:36:20 ◼ ► their sentence that there but thus far Swift is not open source and not open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9380">TS</a>]
02:36:25 ◼ ► that's another issue people out with language it's entirely there's I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9385">TS</a>]
02:36:30 ◼ ► know if that will change in the future I know there are people inside Apple who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9390">TS</a>]
02:36:33 ◼ ► wanted to be open source but there are you know that is not high on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9393">TS</a>]
02:36:36 ◼ ► priority list apparently like right now they just get out the door get get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9396">TS</a>]
02:36:42 ◼ ► get the language in ship shape and then revisit this issue in the future I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9402">TS</a>]
02:36:46 ◼ ► think they're do anything like that until it settles down and tell us you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9406">TS</a>]
02:36:51 ◼ ► know swift of this year is nearly identical to Swift last year to say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9411">TS</a>]
02:36:56 ◼ ► don't think they need to like that that is I can understand that desire to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9416">TS</a>]
02:37:01 ◼ ► that like the motivation like what makes you feel like let's just you know was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9421">TS</a>]
02:37:04 ◼ ► tabled until we get our stuff together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9424">TS</a>]
02:37:07 ◼ ► compared to WebKit WebKit was like you know open because it came from Kate's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9427">TS</a>]
02:37:13 ◼ ► email it was always open and did it didn't impact like we don't wanna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9433">TS</a>]
02:37:16 ◼ ► you don't want to show it to the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9436">TS</a>]
02:37:18 ◼ ► cells now they show it to the world as soon as a noun Safari and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9438">TS</a>]
02:37:21 ◼ ► definitely shaky and we are not doesn't seem to have hurt web development so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9441">TS</a>]
02:37:24 ◼ ► think it can be done is just a question of the question of priorities and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9444">TS</a>]
02:37:29 ◼ ► their Apple has never been the greatest open-source citizen in terms of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9449">TS</a>]
02:37:32 ◼ ► have complete access to our repository c/o changes in real time they just dumps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9452">TS</a>]
02:37:36 ◼ ► like them do their work it's hidden away and then they released a product based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9456">TS</a>]
02:37:39 ◼ ► on an is an open-source dump and that is not really the way that everyone wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9459">TS</a>]
02:37:46 ◼ ► open source said sure better than ever changing the code all the gist of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9466">TS</a>]
02:37:51 ◼ ► the more I learn about swift and you know get past the intro you know chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9471">TS</a>]
02:37:57 ◼ ► one of the script programming book just hello world I programs it's it's evident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9477">TS</a>]
02:38:03 ◼ ► that it is exactly what you would think it is it's a language designed by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9483">TS</a>]
02:38:07 ◼ ► compiler guy which is interesting I compile a guy who'd like C++ a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9487">TS</a>]
02:38:13 ◼ ► clearly comes through a little bit of the amazon has the bus + like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9493">TS</a>]
02:38:20 ◼ ► obviously everyone they use anyone anyone who uses any language for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9500">TS</a>]
02:38:26 ◼ ► period of time comes to hate that language but also kind of like it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9506">TS</a>]
02:38:31 ◼ ► longer use it the more you just like the part that you hate is great and you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9511">TS</a>]
02:38:34 ◼ ► you also kind of like it so it's like Swift has a lot of the things in a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9514">TS</a>]
02:38:38 ◼ ► like this person clearly hates a lot of features about C++ but also kinda think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9518">TS</a>]
02:38:42 ◼ ► some of them are kind of okay and just like just like boy which they have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9522">TS</a>]
02:38:46 ◼ ► yeah but it's it's it's so obvious I think the details you delve into make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9526">TS</a>]
02:38:51 ◼ ► lot of these things clear where it's never academically precocious it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9531">TS</a>]
02:38:57 ◼ ► this is clever this you know which is when you and I were younger lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9537">TS</a>]
02:39:01 ◼ ► new languages where we're doing her small talker list yeah exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9541">TS</a>]
02:39:06 ◼ ► mathematical error haskell these days well list predates us fruitless from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9546">TS</a>]
02:39:10 ◼ ► fifties but there in that that that whole derivatives that whole realm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9550">TS</a>]
02:39:15 ◼ ► languages Dylan's a perfect example cuz it was I think it came up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9555">TS</a>]
02:39:19 ◼ ► nineties but you know it was academically interesting but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9559">TS</a>]
02:39:23 ◼ ► curious viewpoint on something like how and how would you make mac toolbox calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9563">TS</a>]
02:39:29 ◼ ► from Delon try to pursue it as like the whole purpose of this languages like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9569">TS</a>]
02:39:33 ◼ ► have to we have to be able to call into the both of you know what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9573">TS</a>]
02:39:37 ◼ ► calling it a C C++ and Objective C frameworks that already exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9577">TS</a>]
02:39:40 ◼ ► alright so you know we have to be able to work with like NSObject in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9580">TS</a>]
02:39:43 ◼ ► Objective C runtime and by the way we also even though it's a memory safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9583">TS</a>]
02:39:47 ◼ ► thing by the fall they also have to wait to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9587">TS</a>]
02:39:49 ◼ ► unsafe point because sometimes we do that like totally pragmatic music and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9589">TS</a>]
02:39:54 ◼ ► can't afford to do anything else like the mission statement is to be his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9594">TS</a>]
02:39:56 ◼ ► language expands your dreams and its fans huge range because guess what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9596">TS</a>]
02:40:03 ◼ ► in that huge rain and if you want to interface with it or someday replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9603">TS</a>]
02:40:06 ◼ ► that you have to spend the same range and they get to use three languages you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9606">TS</a>]
02:40:09 ◼ ► get four languages are depending on you can't like you know C++ C Objective C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9609">TS</a>]
02:40:15 ◼ ► and unlike shell scripting or Python or whatever you want to try to spend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9615">TS</a>]
02:40:20 ◼ ► whole range you're gonna have to be pragmatic about what you're willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9620">TS</a>]
02:40:24 ◼ ► do to your beautiful language and it's you know a lot of the languages that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9624">TS</a>]
02:40:28 ◼ ► popular were not designed by compiling slurry wall was not a compiler you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9628">TS</a>]
02:40:34 ◼ ► he was a replacement for like a bunch of shell scripts and you know Dr and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9634">TS</a>]
02:40:40 ◼ ► talk and you know is I would just he more or less it was here's the syntex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9640">TS</a>]
02:40:45 ◼ ► I'd like to be able to write to do these things and then he made a thing that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9645">TS</a>]
02:40:48 ◼ ► them and I think you know you said on ATP than a lot of sin for decades after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9648">TS</a>]
02:40:54 ◼ ► there's a lot of work of all how do we make this crazy language fast not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9654">TS</a>]
02:40:58 ◼ ► much repairable JavaScript syntax looks kinda like john was not really and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9658">TS</a>]
02:41:03 ◼ ► the way will make some way to run it right and it adds there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9663">TS</a>]
02:41:06 ◼ ► consideration to how to make it fast and then the result was an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9666">TS</a>]
02:41:09 ◼ ► language that was pretty approachable for most people who can program and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9669">TS</a>]
02:41:13 ◼ ► was dreadfully slow and it's been said millions of dollars and fight for 345 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9673">TS</a>]
02:41:20 ◼ ► major generations of how are we actually going to run JavaScript you know to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9680">TS</a>]
02:41:25 ◼ ► to where we are today where it runs at a reasonable speed whereas swift you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9685">TS</a>]
02:41:29 ◼ ► being written by a compiler guy maybe the preeminent compiler guy in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9689">TS</a>]
02:41:33 ◼ ► today has just reached from top to bottom of this is going to be fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9693">TS</a>]
02:41:39 ◼ ► she was written by compiling I still like the languages that look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9699">TS</a>]
02:41:42 ◼ ► portable assembly like where you can see where a massive it's not that rare for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9702">TS</a>]
02:41:46 ◼ ► Lancashire written by compiling I but it's rare for a high-level language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9706">TS</a>]
02:41:49 ◼ ► right well that's exactly it that's exactly it where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9709">TS</a>]
02:41:52 ◼ ► facts he looks like it's written by a compiler because it looks that it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9712">TS</a>]
02:41:56 ◼ ► like compiler input looks like like an intermediary form you could even squint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9716">TS</a>]
02:42:03 ◼ ► at it and see the assembly code that corresponds a special disc CD is back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9723">TS</a>]
02:42:07 ◼ ► the day yeah especially if you look at older seko [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9727">TS</a>]
02:42:11 ◼ ► you know from the seventies and eighties before it some of the you know slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9731">TS</a>]
02:42:15 ◼ ► higher level features I got added you know later versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9735">TS</a>]
02:42:20 ◼ ► it on its sleeve it's it's you know this is made to be easy to compile and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9740">TS</a>]
02:42:26 ◼ ► shouldn't you should read you probably didn't because really long but one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9746">TS</a>]
02:42:29 ◼ ► the things one of the many many many things are going to review was a link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9749">TS</a>]
02:42:32 ◼ ► that awesome WebKit blog post about the fourth fourth tier LVM optimizer for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9752">TS</a>]
02:42:39 ◼ ► JavaScript try actually reading the whole article because they like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9759">TS</a>]
02:42:44 ◼ ► take you through it it's really really well written and they really just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9764">TS</a>]
02:42:47 ◼ ► piece at a time and you probably got like 50% 60% through it and realize the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9767">TS</a>]
02:42:51 ◼ ► haven't even gotten to the part that tells you the new thing they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9771">TS</a>]
02:42:53 ◼ ► everything they've described so far that is blowing your mind is existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9773">TS</a>]
02:42:57 ◼ ► JavaScript optimization features they haven't even gotten to the fourth tier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9777">TS</a>]
02:43:00 ◼ ► part like the hoops to jump through May JavaScript fast just to make your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9780">TS</a>]
02:43:05 ◼ ► spin like every one of them seem so incredibly dangerous that they will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9785">TS</a>]
02:43:09 ◼ ► invisible to try and seems impossible to get everybody to work and yet that's her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9789">TS</a>]
02:43:13 ◼ ► all running on our web browsers and it's on every platform every day every piano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9793">TS</a>]
02:43:21 ◼ ► and probably mean right I don't see any way out of it for the rest of her life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9801">TS</a>]
02:43:25 ◼ ► JavaScript is gonna be a part of my life on the planet living for a long time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9805">TS</a>]
02:43:29 ◼ ► you gotta go with dark and everything like people that runs out of time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9809">TS</a>]
02:43:33 ◼ ► time if anybody ever gets like like you know Bitcoin ever ever gets hundreds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9813">TS</a>]
02:43:38 ◼ ► more than 50% of the compute power of anyone ever gets like dominant market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9818">TS</a>]
02:43:42 ◼ ► share my brothers again which doesn't look like it's gonna happen but hey who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9822">TS</a>]
02:43:45 ◼ ► knows they could replace they know someone could seize the moment until I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9825">TS</a>]
02:43:49 ◼ ► Google is trying to try but don't like we have a popular browser have but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9829">TS</a>]
02:43:52 ◼ ► everyone right darn we can pre compile it and it's like JavaScript enabled to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9832">TS</a>]
02:43:55 ◼ ► be in like sorry you don't have that kind of pull their jobs but I don't put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9835">TS</a>]
02:44:02 ◼ ► out of even like when I like a swift I made a few sly illusions and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9842">TS</a>]
02:44:07 ◼ ► there is no reason that Apple couldn't say oh and by the way you can just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9847">TS</a>]
02:44:15 ◼ ► Google Chrome wherever you can put swift code and he and his you load your in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9855">TS</a>]
02:44:21 ◼ ► your web pages instead of JavaScript and when we load them we will compile the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9861">TS</a>]
02:44:25 ◼ ► source code and keep the compiled version will be much faster than jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9865">TS</a>]
02:44:28 ◼ ► good because it's on that level of like not that much worse to use in JavaScript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9868">TS</a>]
02:44:32 ◼ ► libraries are not up to snuff or whatever but or even just server-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9872">TS</a>]
02:44:36 ◼ ► web programming like the places where Smith control is not not constrained in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9876">TS</a>]
02:44:40 ◼ ► the same way as as Objective C or any other languages so if Apple ever want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9880">TS</a>]
02:44:46 ◼ ► make that move and say you know you can use Javascript or you can use its best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9886">TS</a>]
02:44:52 ◼ ► to do it like if you're gonna make like I S only web app where you knew the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9892">TS</a>]
02:44:56 ◼ ► target platform can do that with a result in library that's in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9896">TS</a>]
02:45:00 ◼ ► browser you know with a buncha niceties compiler gets fast enough like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9900">TS</a>]
02:45:06 ◼ ► many things that are possible when this is very new baby swift starts getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9906">TS</a>]
02:45:11 ◼ ► mature like it if they succeed in their goal to make a language that spans this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9911">TS</a>]
02:45:14 ◼ ► range and that is able to be fastened everything there's all sorts of places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9914">TS</a>]
02:45:17 ◼ ► like even just down to like the stupid shell scripts and Perl scripts they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9917">TS</a>]
02:45:21 ◼ ► that are buried inside the installer packages also offer an OS 10 if its west [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9921">TS</a>]
02:45:27 ◼ ► had a file i/o library that was worth a damn instead of having to use coke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9927">TS</a>]
02:45:31 ◼ ► overstuffed like the language doesn't preclude that they could they could make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9931">TS</a>]
02:45:35 ◼ ► change all the scripts like you can really make one big unified language or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9935">TS</a>]
02:45:38 ◼ ► can turn out the ten years now we turn I was followed to try to spend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9938">TS</a>]
02:45:40 ◼ ► language was one language and didn't work out well and it makes me curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9940">TS</a>]
02:45:44 ◼ ► funny too it makes me think it's one of those things where it was like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9944">TS</a>]
02:45:48 ◼ ► in turn inside out a lot of people don't know what was almost nobody knew that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9948">TS</a>]
02:45:52 ◼ ► what was going on everybody I talked to a couple was surprised by Swiss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9952">TS</a>]
02:45:55 ◼ ► announcement as we were excited like what what to me it's an unfortunate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9955">TS</a>]
02:46:02 ◼ ► coincidence that it also happened to be the year that the automation group added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9962">TS</a>]
02:46:08 ◼ ► JavaScript support as an alternative to Apple's crap everywhere you could write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9968">TS</a>]
02:46:12 ◼ ► a prescription now you can write JavaScript it seems to me like a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9972">TS</a>]
02:46:15 ◼ ► idea might have been to hold off on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9975">TS</a>]
02:46:17 ◼ ► and wait until you can do in swift just like with the with the JavaScript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9977">TS</a>]
02:46:23 ◼ ► automation the OSA script thing you can use the Javascript automation 22 content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9983">TS</a>]
02:46:28 ◼ ► injects a library the lows Ruby and your own review code for languages in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9988">TS</a>]
02:46:33 ◼ ► command line like all things business all these weird bridges from from apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9993">TS</a>]
02:46:39 ◼ ► from JavaScript John's graduation you can load Objective C libraries and from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/9999">TS</a>]
02:46:43 ◼ ► senator to see that race you can go to Ruby things I guess from the Ruby Coco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10003">TS</a>]
02:46:46 ◼ ► thing or whatever it is quiet and then just us with into that makes two they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10006">TS</a>]
02:46:50 ◼ ► can interoperate with Objective C as well yeah I guess so but it seems to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10010">TS</a>]
02:46:57 ◼ ► like the future I'm always happy when the automation stuff has any new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10017">TS</a>]
02:47:01 ◼ ► features because I'm always afraid that they gonna should turn the lights down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10021">TS</a>]
02:47:05 ◼ ► south group but so much that they have libraries life share nowadays I I only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10025">TS</a>]
02:47:16 ◼ ► say that because I just know that a high-level Apple's interest isn't there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10036">TS</a>]
02:47:19 ◼ ► I'm not saying that your effort into the last couple of years haven't been good I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10039">TS</a>]
02:47:22 ◼ ► think the last couple of years have been great script libraries have been great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10042">TS</a>]
02:47:25 ◼ ► they've been you know and I think adding JavaScript is supported languages great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10045">TS</a>]
02:47:29 ◼ ► I just can't help but think though that in the long run there be more script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10049">TS</a>]
02:47:34 ◼ ► written in automation scripts written in swift then Apple script or out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10054">TS</a>]
02:47:39 ◼ ► job script for all those things in the reason you can have a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10059">TS</a>]
02:47:42 ◼ ► languages the problem is not the language except maybe Java JavaScript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10062">TS</a>]
02:47:45 ◼ ► cigarettes language to people who want like a regular programming language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10065">TS</a>]
02:47:49 ◼ ► problem is the problem is the API for talking to me that's the hard part is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10069">TS</a>]
02:47:53 ◼ ► like you gotta figure out what is that what is a dictionary support how do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10073">TS</a>]
02:47:58 ◼ ► can address this window in a way that is reliable can I get it that the element [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10078">TS</a>]
02:48:02 ◼ ► in this window kinda like it's all down to how scriptable the application and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10082">TS</a>]
02:48:06 ◼ ► the languages just like a minor implementation detail at that point most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10086">TS</a>]
02:48:10 ◼ ► of the time you're fighting with the scripting dictionaries of the apps will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10090">TS</a>]
02:48:13 ◼ ► they even let you do what you want to do and what kind of weird hoops you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10093">TS</a>]
02:48:16 ◼ ► jump through well I just think you know that if they if they can eventually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10096">TS</a>]
02:48:19 ◼ ► it to be swift to be easier to call into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10099">TS</a>]
02:48:22 ◼ ► like if you wanted to put like near board version and sounds as if filed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10102">TS</a>]
02:48:30 ◼ ► with your script that it's you know it would be a lot more just like since Coco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10110">TS</a>]
02:48:36 ◼ ► already uses it it would be easier to call from the scripting side to it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10116">TS</a>]
02:48:39 ◼ ► the same language now but then you kind of doing actual real application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10119">TS</a>]
02:48:43 ◼ ► development like you're not even call you start to send Apple that's right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10123">TS</a>]
02:48:47 ◼ ► guess so I don't know I mean I do now I don't know your call natively into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10127">TS</a>]
02:48:52 ◼ ► you know I don't know the automation story is always been a little weird I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10132">TS</a>]
02:48:57 ◼ ► think it is making progress in recent years so I'm kind of optimistic about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10137">TS</a>]
02:49:01 ◼ ► I like the idea of like when they renamed AppleScript editor script editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10141">TS</a>]
02:49:04 ◼ ► and now actually when you launch it you can pick which language you want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10144">TS</a>]
02:49:08 ◼ ► your default and each window has a little pop-up menu that says it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10148">TS</a>]
02:49:11 ◼ ► script editor do on a great Apple scripts for JavaScript or scripts quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10151">TS</a>]
02:49:17 ◼ ► yet but like it's poised to OSA was always supposed to be multilanguage but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10157">TS</a>]
02:49:21 ◼ ► for the longest time it was like multilanguage in theory and now its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10161">TS</a>]
02:49:24 ◼ ► final multilanguage in actuality again so finally it is violence that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10164">TS</a>]
02:49:32 ◼ ► actual 9 around on on iraq finally yeah this probably other languages that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10172">TS</a>]
02:49:37 ◼ ► people have been using like people don't use frontier anymore but that was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10177">TS</a>]
02:49:41 ◼ ► them well and there was JavaScript mark called rid of late night software that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10181">TS</a>]
02:49:46 ◼ ► guy behind script to bugger and he had faced ban for a while he had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10186">TS</a>]
02:49:51 ◼ ► javascript OSA that was built as JavaScript engine that did work but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10191">TS</a>]
02:50:00 ◼ ► never really took off and it cuz I think it's the sort of thing where had to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10200">TS</a>]
02:50:03 ◼ ► from Apple to really take off and there were certain witnesses that that using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10203">TS</a>]
02:50:09 ◼ ► javascript instead of a postscript you ended up with tangled syntax that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10209">TS</a>]
02:50:13 ◼ ► like why would take Apple to fix it because I kinda added you know how to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10213">TS</a>]
02:50:18 ◼ ► fixed at the OS a level not at the language there has always been a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10218">TS</a>]
02:50:23 ◼ ► bit weird I mean it's like you just the languages are so different how can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10223">TS</a>]
02:50:27 ◼ ► how can you call the same things and it's always just you know especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10227">TS</a>]
02:50:30 ◼ ► when you're calling that other libraries again because like you know JavaScript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10230">TS</a>]
02:50:33 ◼ ► important objective see stuff like to see calls but named parameters but John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10233">TS</a>]
02:50:37 ◼ ► doesn't have named parameters see all these magical things just like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10237">TS</a>]
02:50:40 ◼ ► Python Coco bridges they've had everything we're but always say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10240">TS</a>]
02:50:45 ◼ ► always going to be crossed the whole point of its own script architecture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10245">TS</a>]
02:50:49 ◼ ► always comes back to Apple script anyway that we've gone on long enough I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10249">TS</a>]
02:50:56 ◼ ► it's been a good show I I love your review and ATP is my favorite show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10256">TS</a>]
02:51:04 ◼ ► thank you really is and it's all because of you I was no make up for that of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10264">TS</a>]
02:51:08 ◼ ► course I like Casey I like Marco but what is interesting about the ATP is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10268">TS</a>]
02:51:14 ◼ ► you guys often disagree maybe even usually one of three views gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw9tH24/10274">TS</a>]
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