XCIX: ‘The Smoker Channels’, With Merlin Mann
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hello hello how are you I'm good how are you you sound like you sound
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surprisingly good is this is as LTE this is LT you're kidding
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now how men have Verizon Droid Verizon so that story is that we felt like we
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were supposed to record 36 minutes ago and I was I was going to be ready when
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all of a sudden my home internet went out and did a hard stop at nothing
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loaded and then I started getting her activation paid like what you would get
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if you have a bit more like if you have a brand new light like brand new stuff
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you know like you just moved ended cable town like you just moved here you got
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your comcast box this is what you see but like actually trying to do the
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activation doesn't doesn't do so you had a good idea we're texting and you told
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me to use my phone go to the Comcast st. see if they tell you that there's an
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adage and that it worked I logged into my Comcast account and it gave me a
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message that says hello John John John the caps and out it has been reported in
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your area we expect this to be resolved by today and then you you can describe I
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sent this deal will include this image in the Joe nodes are it somehow in the
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heart so everybody deserves to enjoy this but Maryland prison historical
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record can you describe this image
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sure sure I think it's it's clearly comes from the same grand tradition as
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the blinking under construction
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Jeff from back in the day feature is a big white van that says extended right
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close enough right this is the repair guy and then if you're a stock art guy
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in a red and black check shirt with a hard hat climbing a yellow ladder right
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says hi so far so good it is to show you that you expect to be resolved by today
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it gets interesting though because the latter is situated with a very strange
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incorrect drop shadow he's basically it appears to be about to fix and 11 foot
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high orange safety cone it's a lot higher than 11 I think it's about a 15
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foot safety orange construction going on the right side of the page that up right
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at least 10 feet high and another one next to it that's fallen over and this
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guy on a ladder is he's on a ladder and he's behind the cone is probably about
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five feet behind the cone climbing a ladder oh and did I mention there's also
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a dog chasing a cat really subtle part is in the upper right-hand corner for
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reasons I'm not entirely sure there's a bird flying by
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you do you really have to see it to appreciate that he looks he looks like
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he's there to fix the safety cone and they're working on that why why is there
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a drop shot on everything they aren't ready to drop shadow on the latter has
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no relationship with the cone that he's theoretically fix it it's just an option
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we're seeing the cone drop from the sky just right next to where he happens to
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be climbing a ladder to nothing
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we're doing it over Lt
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can't I told you I thought I told you more attention this is nothing its cable
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company but I swear to Christ every time I see or hear that word Xfinity just to
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see what I can tell you why I mean in the same way that like 45 NuGen in the
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late eighties was funny like Xfinity is offensive to me that's their hold their
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whole branded line of something involving a cable lifestyle in your home
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is that right for your business I think that's what they would tell you that
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that's probably probably the exact words that they used that when they came up
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with the idea that they would stop caught just calling themselves Comcast
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and that you know that they would that Comcast would be some kind of parent
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brand for all of their various endeavors now like the Comcast logo now they've
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they've taken the NBC Peacock it's you know part of their life their content
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company now that they have NBC they have universal and so like the cable business
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is is now expanding and I believe that when you do those where do this use
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probably how they they probably hit the phrase SMB probably for small business
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distal use the SMB no yeah I i mean i think it's it's you know it's funny cuz
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you think about the Dropbox came along
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cash half dozen things that was so mumbling about Dropbox as they were
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doing something that had been very difficult for a number of reasons to be
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before not least because being a commodity utility is not interesting and
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it's not sexy and having dependable you know file sinking in that case was was
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an unsolved problem that was not funny face had a profitable right so many
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things inside the fact that the sink actually worked which was my boy let me
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think about your cable company I'm sure you seen that Kraft's going around about
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how the cable companies have like come together over the years in the eighties
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there was like 30 different cable providers and now there's like four or
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whatever
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so I mention the thinking was like we've got to have some kind of a way to brand
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the notion of this coaxial cable coming into your house that's gonna give you a
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suite of services right you get your net connection TV monitor in the part of the
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austerity package I believe you gave us the coaxial cable were you when you
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watch sports know this is an entire lifestyle
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the jury your landline telephone service here and they really want to get the
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whole package boy you call them up for anything and they really want to get
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what it would take to put you into a phone today I have it I have them and we
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don't we don't have a single landline
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totally hooked up to a phone jack and house so we have a phone number and it
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never rains but it costs less than if we just had and I don't know I'm do I'm
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overdue to call them and did go through the pantomime I'm years overdue of the
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shirt Syracuse surprises you know once you take it like a reminder once a year
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because you really need to you call them up and say I'm going to cancel my
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service and then they say oh god now and then they give you know cut you a deal
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and give you faster service at a lower price you know you're a new customer but
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if you're like me and you're a dummy and you signed up a couple years ago and you
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just let it go
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your your promotional rate and at some point and now you know I paid $200 a
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month for something I could probably you know a lot of AT&T I need to carefully
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look at this month's bill that I called them up to I think I was calling partly
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because we're charged I guess I was also just asking about iPhone update
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availability anyway I ended up calling them and you know the drill where they
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like one to talk to you about special offers and stuff like that
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do it now you know it's the worst but I have to say you know actually AT&T in my
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experience I don't love that service or company I mean I really don't but the
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people that you end up talking to a pretty great ATT sometimes but long
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story short this this woman like you can really bring your bill down to tell me
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about it what we have to do a build down and she said well we need to change his
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family data package in dealey D&M my phone bill dropped $100 yeah I know
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exactly what you mean now but I'm question naturally very very skeptical
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because he figures like an ass of course now I'm looking for a catch by my god
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what does it mean we're reaping for another five years we gotta get a
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Samsung tablet like what is it what was the downside of this doesn't just pay
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less money
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Stockholm Syndrome you know I'm just like she's being so nice to me and I
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feel like you know i dont wanna talk to a customer service person I'm terrified
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I really don't incur the wrath cuz I don't know a few ways they can help you
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in a million ways they could scream or to make things worse like all of a
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sudden you know you signed up for three hundred dollar-a-month international
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data plan you get me in the Platinum overnight package and daddy you feel
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sometimes they've gotten better at this over the years does with GoDaddy a
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cephalic I was running down a hallway while it doesn't wrap boys are trying to
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hit me with a sexual pennies just 90 need anything tonight and anything over
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need anything platinum
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this domain I I don't think that I don't think I'm customers what to do with
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their money I really don't i mean they've spent a ton of it here i mean
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it's you know this is cable town area said this before on the show where
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they've built the tallest skyscraper in philadelphia and now they're building
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another one one block over that's going to be even bigger and nobody really
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knows why
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you know it's the day just got more money than they know what to do it
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yeah yeah I thought about this in this way too much but sometimes it seems like
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you've got in the case of these carriers from back in the day you've got well
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there's the stuff we made money within the past 10 years ago there's
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infrastructure that we built like all the investments we made over the years
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and then there's this rapidly evolving market for what people actually one and
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all that stuff that we see as being very valuable just simply does not register
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for most people and in my case and San Francisco Muni get one-dot of coverage
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so much of the time with with AT&T it's likely is great to use the phones hardly
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at all you know it's just it's interesting to me like how you take
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being a commodity business you know it's been around for a long time and you know
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because of the nature of the business can never really be that innovative that
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fast so what do you do we saw iPhones tablets or whatever but it's interesting
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like what they want in the case of Xfinity legs here's what we want you to
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know us for we want you to know as for this thing called Xfinity and you know
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the way that they're actually making all their money who knows how they're
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actually making all their money but they want to be known for as well as
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lifestyle products completely up to date and you know yeah that makes sense you
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know when you're talking about fiber and stuff like that that's not something you
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do as he says he change a logo i mean these are there's a lot of
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infrastructure behind what all these companies doing certainly you can spend
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up various kinds of data centers in CNN's or whatever but at the same time
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that's all changing so fast it right now comcast is a coaxial cable that comes
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into my house that lets me stream things and you know and use the internet but we
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don't have cable TV we don't know about my experience another great one but no
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but for me that's just the cat saddam cable that comes in and it's a 01 either
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works minor does and that's that's the entire expensive proposition
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dogs chasing cats cats got a drop shadow probably noon it looks like it might be
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inside Johnny Ives bubble very white minivan in the cones in men in the bird
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is gonna drop shadow
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how come I just sent us this is in the detail here the icon next to get a
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one-time text when services restored and the icon next to it is a power power you
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electric plug I don't get it
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yeah I read more like a $3 interface hear those areas and other pages when
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you get it it's changed cuz in the meantime I've gone through the the one
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guy signed up to get that text there's hello John Xfinity fall TV sweepstakes
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you can learn more about NBC's The Voice what's this one here in the second one
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is your friends to expand and get up to $500 Visa Prepaid Cards he measured how
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much money went into the series of meetings about synergy of which is that
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there is a whole as I can I gotta send you this the docket still there Jason ok
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I got it at the birds though they're the bird doesn't move horrific dreamscapes
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is this hello job all caps refer your friends to Xfinity registered trademark
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and get up to $500 Visa prepaid cards so you can get a whole bunch of kind of
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foreshortened like prospective havin Visa cards
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despicable me running on a screen and a tablet with a with a game controller
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someone yelling into someone's ear on a laptop image and then
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dog chased the other away so what is the end she refers to people to do it right
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now that's it and recognize revenue stream right there
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this I would have so many opportunities to suggest to my friends having drinks
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I'm there must be some reason for why would they buy my reward come in the
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form of prepaid Visa cards drug dealers why wouldn't they just give me credit on
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the bill I don't know our special access to behind the scenes stuff from the
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voice I really don't get it at the grand prize you can win a $10,000 $10,000 cash
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Visa cards plus a trip for two to the voice finale in Los Angeles any would
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love that she loves the voice III I can't help but feel that ultimately
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Comcast should be a very like or anybody like that with the company with millions
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of customers are paying like a hundred to two hundred dollars a month for
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service that you know like a one-time infrastructure layout you know put the
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cable in the streets and through the polls and everything and everybody
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houses I mean obviously you know those to get from where nobody had cable in
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america to where everybody is cable running into the house that's an
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accomplishment right but that's all in the past it's all there now it just run
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it should it should really just be like 25% company just answering calls yeah
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just answering some calls and mostly mostly just you know you know guys who
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go out in the field and troubleshoot problems and stuff like that like
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there's no real reason for Comcast to exist as a very large corporation years
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ago you talking about it wasn't that was a Comcast where they had to get the
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SPECIAL DRAM card for your cable box yeah yeah
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came out and didn't work exactly one and then he came out
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it was a it was a two CableCARD TiVo and he came out and it was like it one that
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worked and what didn't and is gonna go get some more cards and as I will have
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your truck and the next time I know it was always a different guy was only the
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same guy give your skin the gay part is that you have to make a new appointment
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yeah I'm waiting for you now and ultimately a guy came and he had one
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always with only two cards every time and I'd always say well can you put on
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the third visit I was like can you please put down to tell the guide to
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bring the whole box full of these cards and he was like well we don't usually do
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that and I was like what do you think maybe you should think this is the third
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I just bring a whole stack of them obviously some of these things work some
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of them have work and some don't work so we wound up with with a gun the third
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one we got a fully working cable card and then the second CableCARD got
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everything except HBO and Showtime or whatever you know whatever they pay
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channels are premium stuff I was I good enough so like every time we wanted to
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TiVo like an HBO show whatever 50% child that it would be just a black screen for
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our of the broadcast so we just set up the TiVo I say we aim is actually the
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TiVo runner at the house she set it up so that any of the HBO shows that we
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wanted we would she would just set the TiVo to record all of them you know like
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so late when the new episode of The Sopranos came out just keep recording it
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over and over again because if you do you know and there's a gate copies of it
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on the TiVo
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there's a good chance one of them is gonna work X 1080 it's all about
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improving your chances that was years ago we now have a new TiVo that I don't
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know what it's got some different kind of cable card good now but the review
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part of your what you're describing here we get 25 people answering phones is i
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mean i i I cannot begin to first of all let's be honest you're not gonna I mean
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I'm going to trouble shoot the shit
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out of everything that I can look I just sent you that girl rate I know how to
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get to the Motorola Surfboard I know how to get a little bit I know how to go on
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every cable and you know I learned a long time ago not to be that guy if you
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do call but the five priests completely respond tomorrow I will I will you know
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pushed up to higher level tech support and stuff like that because everything
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coaxial cable and irony is the first of all when they do send somebody at your
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complete crap shoot which are gonna get up till like a lot of times you get like
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actually Comcast even though he's not he's a contractor and these guys come
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somebody comes out clean up the mess is awesome this awesome Gulf War veteran
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woman came out to these things is just giving up all these junctions percentage
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of magic like you just take out about forty 40 feet of cable that's why we're
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getting a signal as they just kept getting new stuff and they don't drill
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hole oh my gosh I'm going to special forum for that but you know you really
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depends on what you get there could be people who come out and just had to have
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the slightest idea how to fix anything but the most trivial thing and other
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who actually knows how to fix things and I remember one time it was the same
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like I don't know he was like some kind of terrible spider web of Junction died
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of bells or whatever of strength that with each you know how many feet of huge
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effect and if that's the 110 and just won't be enough to drive your right you
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ship he goes I have heard about this some ways that you should I remember
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those days day because he could get this guy to stops and I thought at first when
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he stopped that it was like like when you offer a cop a bribe and then all of
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a sudden now you're in trouble for you know the copyright in the guy says and
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said would you like something like that and we're all taking he does he goes
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well I could come back to I don't work tomorrow as I could come back here
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tomorrow and and do this on my own time and hit with a freak out when he asked
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for I don't know like 200 bucks or something and we also agreed yes so
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right there on the spot he called in and we heard him he called in to like his
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supervisor and said yeah I'm at whatever they are
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doris was he goes yeah they they no longer want services they don't want any
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they can't afford it I don't think so just cancel it because I see you guys
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tomorrow comes back the next day and he's just like in street clothes and he
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cable box and he went out and climbed up like the cold outside our apartment and
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it might be that we may be we had to be paid anything I think we paid nothing we
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just had it all back then I mean if you had the right box with the i mean it was
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expensive yeah like I said I was like you know in the nineties and Tyson was
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still fighting I do what I remember specifically even you know we invite
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people over cuz you wouldn't want those things that you know without pain but we
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could get eleven different shirts are fifty different shirts that show me the
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school thing it's it's very well curated that's exactly the same here I can't I
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addition my goodness I've got your or your Levi's 501 I am yeah me too as I
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get four pairs of Levis 501 telephoto and has exactly one pair of pants and
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different need one pair of jeans that fit me mister realize what pants that
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fit feel like I don't want too much because their little bit jarring I do
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have bones to pick with that I do wear Levis 501 a couple years ago I tried
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something else I think I got something I got them from the gap or something but
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the exact same genes over and over again and and that you can't do that they're
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always change in the name of the the denim you know you know that they've got
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forty different names and styles at M&I da my god could leave eyesight is
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completely overwhelming right I was gonna try the same thing I was like ok
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yeah I tried to do that and he can do the ones I bought the last time aren't
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there anymore and I bought him and also the sizes are different like I bought a
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new pair with exactly the size right on the pat on the back and now there's I
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learned this from my technologies like whenever I go try on anything in the
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store especially if it's not like super expensive if it's anything like you know
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anything that's not basically like evening wear take for into the dressing
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room and try them on in the same size unlike you are high there's absolutely
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no difference and it totally is a difference and look no further go grab
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say that it isn't like there's like this one lady in San Francisco that's making
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all these genes there's a lot of variation that the cotton is different
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in a lot of them you gotta try em on yeah it's what I did I i think you're
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exactly right but I hate it because I want to do the whole point of knowing my
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size and knowing that I want levi's model 501 as I wanted to order among
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other people buy beer I just American Apparel t-shirt some impact of this
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that's that's that's how I wanted to be almost like a paper towel dispenser at
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my kids elementary school I want to be so straightforward
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exactly the same socks exactly the same shorts and a minute when they change for
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some reason this country it seems really weird I feel really undermined by the
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brand you know if you like Steve Jobs who had it right where you where you
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a God that Japanese designer give Mike 75 of those black shirts and that was it
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I think it's a smart thing in the world I mean you just don't have to you
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shouldn't have to think about that stuff and if the problem is once you become a
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little eclectic then you can go to become really eclectic because you can't
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have like fucking clown shoes that you wear every day you've got to have some
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variation you know the smart part was getting like 75 of them at once rather
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you can't trust that they're gonna be there to get more you really good reason
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to maintain your weight as you get older it is good motivation motivation
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pass away at that
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moment you know I suppose it's a surprising that the guy who parachuted
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issues and I don't mean to make fun of it you know that what he did was funny
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know about him now
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John 3:16 oh yeah yeah I as a sports fan you should know he's he's he's had a lot
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of balls in the air over the years is he still around I don't remember I i think
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the same guy but I think at some point it ended up making this really sad I
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away so for those of you who don't know this guy what was his name I remember of
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Stewart llen he was a guy who he would he would obtain tickets for sporting
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events that were optimally placed so that he would be on TV like like you
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know he he he knew which tickets to buy that would be within the camera angle
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that frequent and and he which city do first the rainbow it yesterday with the
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Marlins guy would you like to tell me more about this guy like how is that
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he's always where he's at so many games and so many places and he's always he
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rainbow afro wig
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and then later on he went to the John 3:16 right john then he used to I
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remember you don't it was always football game I remember he probably did
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everything but I remember seeing him on football games and he he must have had a
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lot of money because you know that's expensive seats near the front and he
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had to travel because it wasn't like he he was a guy in Kansas City and he was
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always at Kansas City Chiefs games now he was like every he was like at the the
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game of the week every week wherever it was his first major appearance was at
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behind the pits of Gordon Johncock individually commercials and stuff but
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yeah I'm surprised he got in Augusta Augusta census seems like type of place
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where the Masters the Masters they wouldn't hesitate to take a guy out meet
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me at a green jacket blazer and a rainbow wig so I like that he's like he
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was like the old-time predecessor to this year's Marlins man who I have to
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admit I got I got very into this year did you watch any of the baseball t know
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I did yeah it was absolutely fascinating and so this guy back story behind this
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and he liked it was pretty amazing has started out but there was some reason I
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think obviously was most striking in the Kansas the games are in Kansas City
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leets college in sea of blue and I mean it just in this one guy in a traffic
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cone orange jersey this is Marlins on it and is right behind home plate I mean
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he's right there and he does great thing for retro with the pictures turn through
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he stands up so you can see he I don't know what was promised seemed to me like
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he couldn't stand still like I I am a basement so I was mostly when I
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he didn't seem to be paying attention to the game on a regular basis I times he
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was but there were you would chat up his seat mates nearby something yeah he you
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know again like you said it was quite in congress in the games in Kansas City and
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hats off to the people of Kansas City for their they're like I don't know how
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many thousand 45 50,000 people fitness stadium and I would save forty 9999 of
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them were wearing Royals blew it it was an impressive sight i think thats purity
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I mean there was a great series and they they fought hard in this fans really
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great and but there's one guy wearing a bright flaming orange Marlins jacket and
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hat really stuck out and he literally right behind home plate I mean like
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maybe like out of the 45,000 seats like he was always in maybe one of the two
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seats that he would be most visible behind the batter like the one on the
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left and one on the right where it where you're that visible and he was in that
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seat I don't understand how can you guarantee how can you buy that I don't i
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i somebody I think yeltsin article about this and I i look at it before I think
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he is a medical professional like some kind of a dentist and he gets these
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tickets somehow but I mean think about all the work that goes into that it
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wasn't it was in San Francisco to rate you let's be clear he was in San
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Francisco for a few games then he went to Kansas for a few games and so forth
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came back its I mean it's he was a dedication and those are you know and
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who knows if $1,000 oh I think for the World Series it was a lot more I went on
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StubHub cause I got curious and I was like well what would it cost and and
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like the seats in which they had his AT&T
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the Giants at all it is this week yeah yeah while the Giants ballpark AT&T
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formerly SBC family pack felt it then once they're that close right behind
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home plate where thousands of dollars on StubHub and it's like everything on
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StubHub I mean it's you know it's negotiating the public kind of grey
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market for tickets or something yeah yeah you never used it it's amazing it's
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truly amazing it's a great great service where you can resell tickets and they
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are automated and they they they totally you can you know they stand behind every
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ticket they sell so you don't feel like you're it's not like eBay like StubHub
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is you know with Bay if somebody ripped you off you they have like a mediation
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but stopped short of stands behind its like StubHub buys the ticket from the
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person you're buying the ticket stub oh my gosh that's fantastic
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you would hope they would pay power the originally kind of seemed like an SMS
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escrow willingly hands on a ticket and make sure ya day and they have offices
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physical retail establishments in that lot a lot of major cities most major
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cities so if you buy tickets at the last minute you can go pick them up like I I
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bought tickets for a Yankees game and in August for the other day and I don't
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know if we're going and bought them the day before and it was so easy
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we're gonna be in New York anyway that's why about the tickets on for a thing on
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Saturday so we're staying over and just there's a place in Midtown you just go
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in and you show them your I D and then they just handed me an envelope with the
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ticket is amazing
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yeah I bought them like a day before but to wait and it's a little it certainly
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must have been a lot of day I guess maybe he got them for free or discounted
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or something but it's a lot of dedication know there's no way he had to
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buy them out but it is crazy because somebody has that see if there's a
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season ticket holder and you're like a fan of the giant why would you give up
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that great see unless he really made
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an offer he couldn't refuse and it's just so funny because it's for his
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purposes it's not just like he wants a good seat he wants to be he clearly
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wants to be on TV there's only like three or four seats then into
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pound-for-pound he's on screen more than anybody but maybe the pitcher in the
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catcher yeah I mean if you think about it i mean that guy is except
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occasionally like he might be obscured by the empire for a second but he seems
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to have a really good sense of where to be to make sure his on-camera yeah
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definitely seems like it you know and that's it makes a big even being in the
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front row make such a big for his purposes make such a big difference
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compared to being the second yeah I sent from a different age though if you think
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about guys like the parasailing guy or a rockin rollin or or Marlins guy i mean
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you know it used to be really hard to be famous
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it took a lot of work to be famous you you know you had to have a publisher for
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a book you had to have an agent to like train even take to get you on TV it's
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just like today there's there's so many more avenues for becoming slightly
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kind of admire the the great work you know on the ground
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medical professional who decides to between cities to to be on TV the
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background it's it's you know that you can get into that the Royals tried to
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buy him out of the seats are you kidding you don't notice them after the first
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game the Kansas City Royals
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you know like the organization approached him and said you know we you
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know we'd like you to move but we will offer you will trade you for this these
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tickets for this will give you a luxury box or do you know a seat in one of the
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luxury boxes and in the fall I don't know you know food and beverage whatever
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please please give up your seat and he was like not you know they declined
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because his whole goal you know that was the whole point I don't think that I
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don't think they quite understood the psychology of the guy that the
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you know what he is looking to do whatever I guess the Kansas City river
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that's that's I could see them getting pretty miffed about that you think about
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what that ad space cost for all those you know the answer her green screen
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back there and all the kind of as they say today optics of like how you present
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you know your brand must've been super annoying to them
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makes me wonder how many people out there who inspired by the guy and then
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if its gonna startling good surgeons in you know what would you call it a stick
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out you know yeah yeah I mean everybody needs a project it's important to stay
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busy you know as you get older but it's like you never really noticed the people
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there are always people behind home plate are behind the end zone you know
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there's always fans in the front row indeed just never noticed them really I
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mean I guess every once in a while you see Jack Nicholson the Lakers game show
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it but you know you just don't notice the fans until they're wearing bright
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orange uneasy movement in one game made me feel really old there was this I'm
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guessing probably the greatest dad in the world that he brought his kids to
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the game in Kansas City but there was probably like 11 year old girl sitting
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in like the 5th row and was like man it's at 11:15 she's she's up pretty late
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forget her age was cut open the game within casinos a school night
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think about it like did your dad taking the World Series games are thinking
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about bed bugs you as a math test tomorrow
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exactly is your kids doin I tell ya is his natural born and as soon as Saturday
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ads you know you know school starts at 8 a.m. you know Monday to see right thru
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Friday and then soon Saturday comes he sleeps 20 kidding wow man I hate that
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daylight savings time
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jump on this bandwagon but man I'm so relieved when that ends it makes our
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life so much easier I can unite the savings time
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I don't like that it's like it's trouble it's very hard to get my kid go to sleep
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when it's like even 830 and still light outside the USA you your pro daylight
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savings time you like the extra day late at night I do think sponsor logo with a
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have it be easy and not have to go into his stupid store and waste a whole day
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whole bunch of classes to choose from you pick up on that you like two
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different ones then they send them to your house for free just empty without a
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some stupid on the sides they didn't notice when you're looking at him
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straight on you know I mean that's a geek in me know I'm listening to beats I
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love beads but I'm saying I'm the type of person where I would I would
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ordinarily think I'm never gonna buy eyeglasses online because I have to see
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them in person I cannot judge this just by pictures with that you don't have to
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do that you judge I'm online looking at the pictures just to have them sent to
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your house then you get five him and you can actually sit there and examine them
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in your own hands
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you pick the one you like and then boom couple days later in they come with your
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prescription lenses in place they also there's a date they they do a great
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great thing and I here's the thing they start at just 95 bucks you go to war be
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and they started 95 bucks they have showrooms in some cities adding new york
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sometimes it's amazing
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home trial she never know that the thing I remember one time in years ago well I
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will say the name was a site for you to go in a couple of picture of yourself
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and try the glasses online and then I got the glasses and cloud glasses had no
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idea of the actual like you know you can tell he put them on your actual stupid
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face right there's just no way so if they for every pair of glasses that they
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sell they distribute prepare to someone in need around the world they've
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lack access to prescription glasses so if anybody out there who has bad vision
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in my my on corrected vision is at this point my life absolutely horrible like I
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would be I don't even know if I could cross the street if you think about what
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that would be like not to have glasses i mean i i i don't know how I would even
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function I mean I can see about six inches in front of my face and corrected
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so think about the fact that there's a billion people worldwide you don't have
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access to classes and you know if you were a kid how you couldn't even see how
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are you gonna learn anything so they're doing a great thing every time they sell
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parent classes they send one to people in need I think that's a huge part of it
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and it doesn't mean you know the prices are jacked up it's not like you're
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paying double you're paying less than you would pay you know typical eyeglass
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place all other classes include antireflective anti glare coating
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there's no additional cost for that no upsell and stuff like that everything
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comes with a really nice case cleaning cloth everything he wants to fight that
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really cool kid it's it's great that we have I don't have lost track now
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last we've got here in this household sunglasses everything you might want
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then here's the thing this is new they've got progressively think it's
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progressive lenses starting it 295 including the frames that progressives
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this is from my demographic now are that's where you have a distant
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prescription at the top of the lens that in a transition to a reading lands near
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the lenders bottom and its hard line in between them that says bifocal it's just
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most advanced progressive technology supply digitally with a computer so the
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design is more precise than traditional models of progressives said they got
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that's that's where I'm at my life with glasses
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you need glasses you need sunglasses just go check them out because you get
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to where they gonna do here there you use that you are and you get free 3 day
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alright daylight savings to checking your cable just hit me just curious to
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see if this actually works it's it's gonna be my blood I didn't get a text
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from them so I'm not a one-time tax you're gonna get it with you know what
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that now this I was smart enough not to do it on the machine where are our call
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but it looks like it is working no textron
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maybe they're not maybe they're not gonna keep slugging along this way
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itself time so you you're you're opposed to it and President summer months where
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it packs the daylight I see I feel like we've got the whole thing backwards i
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its real confusing it's very confusing and I don't think it's later and ends
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later 90 and they changed it I believe that it ends after Halloween
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something like that it backwards because it's I am i said im amenable to the
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tough sell and I like how you feel like you're almost lying to your kids you
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know how can you say it's bedtime you know it it's like you're saying it
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bedtime and your kids hopefully hopefully your kid has a window in their
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bedroom and they can look and see that it's daylight it's you know I understand
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that's hard sell but those of the month I wouldn't be opposed to two rejecting
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it like in the around June you know so circle for months around June words
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longest and take an hour of daylight there my problem is I I just get so
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depressed because they don't they don't have clinical depression but I just a
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little blue I get back I would call it like a melancholy like this right now
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this like today I feel a little melancholy just because it's right now
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it's it's a rainy day here in philadelphia is probably why my cable
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went out it doesn't hold up too much
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that a lot to ask of hardware job you know that's true though you remember
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back when I did the show with Dan it really was the case this was before the
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guy pulled out that rusty why thing you know my splitter know it's true we're on
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rainy days when wind and I would record the show years ago he would always hehe
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could tell cuz it was like it was like all broken up like Skype audio is all
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busted up on a rainy was very consistent that if it was rainy my my connection
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cannot handle that seems crazy that's fixed I think but its but anyway it's a
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rainy day here it's like my wife gets home from work and it's dark and that's
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that's you know it's no fun for me it's certainly no fun for her but for people
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who have like an actual job you're coming home and it's after the Tigers
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back right to organize totally depressing when I used to work
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you many many years ago the philadelphia inquirer it was a type of place where it
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show up at nine and you'd left at five everybody left 25 you know like 455
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everybody's put a coat on who's just that type of office there is nothing in
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the department I worked in there was nothing you know no reason to stay and I
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remember leaving the one time I must have been like the first weekday I guess
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the Monday after we set the clocks back and if it was pitch black dark as night
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and you as you leave work at five just was very depressing I let me ask you
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this what are they just changed here here's the thing it would seem really
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weird if they just changed time and we said from now on
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like daylight savings time is what we're gonna have all the time but it's
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something that's kind of what you're advocating for its like why don't you
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just change time so we just we just talked in an hour here we change the
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stuff around and now we we have late at night that that's kind of really what
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you're saying that is what I'm saying that makes it seem doubly crazy that we
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change it during the year that it's it's that going back and forth so be nice if
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there was I mean I can't do that with the rotation of the planet the angles
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and stuff but still you know i mean that that's part that's weird is the changing
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part I think I i think you could make a case that I'm not a scientist John
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needs to be just time now I had and it's just it's such a kick in the teeth I
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feel that when you set up back in the fall
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that you know they can you know the days are getting shorter as October went on
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anyway you know you could kind of see you know you can see it like a man I
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remember when it was so light outside I really I really knows that this year it
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seems to happen fast it I don't know did seem like that to me too but it's I
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don't know when I was a kid it seemed like I was ignorant stuff like that I
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didn't even know what time I guess but as an adult now though and I feel like
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that sudden extra hour jump of darkness at what should be a reasonable time of
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day would most people would still call the afternoon not the evening just don't
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know I'd almost rather even though I would advocate switch into the daylight
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savings time year round I would just say let's just call that set the clocks on
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that never heard that before that cause that seems like the kind of campaign
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that we've heard about by now and it kind of makes sense that you get when
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you guys here here you just pick one that's the slogan it does seem now it's
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hard hard thing for them to ever get off the ground
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downside of permanent daylight savings time cuz I have to tell you just in
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fairness I could get behind the scheme as long as it's consistent the hard part
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the hard part is like i say like in the summertime i mean we just need an idea
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and I understand the late changes like say angles rotation but like to just has
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to be some idea that if I am i dont selling I'm trying to do some kind of
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social engineering tricks on my kid to get a good bit 2 p.m. or something like
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that just pick one
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the downside whenever I get on my hobby horse about this I was here I hear from
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the morning it's the morning people is that you know of a sudden now the
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morning people have
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you know it's pitch black and you know they always tried it always is in
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everybody's always tried to the children but then you know kids are waiting for
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the school bus in its pitch black at 7:15 in the morning over there I don't
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know and it to me and it's like somebody's I think there's a farming
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angle on it but to me it's like the farmer should just get up when the Sun
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rises don't you know don't worry about what time it is
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understand where the farm farmer so time constraint to the need to get a like why
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why does it matter what time the Sun is up is the grain store closing like
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understand exactly how that you know saying it only makes sense if there's
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other stuff too far to do as well as we're gonna field otherwise the clock
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clocks don't mean fuck you just go work in your garden filled with you need to
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it is like you look you look you put your pocket watch and go oh dear Amy
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it's for a better start wrapping up now get back to work farm farm yeah I don't
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I don't know what the deal is it that I did you know and and just right here and
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in my own household you know as i endlessly bitched about the daylight
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savings time roll out last week
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a.m. even said well you don't take the kids school every day it's pitch black
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it was pitch black last week it's nicer now that we you know it actually looks
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like morning when I'm taken into school so I appreciate it I don't know maybe
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the answer is is that sometime around november breakthrough from November
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through like New Years we should all just stay in bed and think that the
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depressing like a summer really supports that I think we all just agreed to just
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be a little bit more low key you know low-key our way into christmas is also
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an angle of energy saving is not another angle of it oh definitely I think that's
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I think that was the explanation behind the guy we kept it and while I we've
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expanded why we've added made more and more of the
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of the calendar year daylight savings is that I don't know how I'm not quite sure
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what the argument is that I had to be honest I i'm still deeply confused just
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about time zones
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alone i I was sucking my curly the other day and I was asking him whether they
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get Christmas in a different season and we do honestly don't understand anything
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about any of this works and I still have to basically mentally draw a picture to
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understand which time change causes what difference and that my brain is just not
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wired to totally understand this and bluff on my way through this little bit
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but I honestly find everything involving time completely bizarre you know at the
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China does right but did you know that china did not have they don't believe in
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time zones so china is a revolutionary
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well it's a landmass roughly comparable to the United States
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you know it's about the same sort of shape to a wider than it is tall and
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about the same with like if they went with time zones they would span four
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time zones like the continental United States but they don't do it they just
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have clocks are set to Chinese time in it and so if you're on the well-regarded
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like how far north you are 10 west to east and west na mean also higher up
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like in washington like their days are really short
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offer though right
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like people in florida get a little bit more
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it's all completely perplexing it if somebody told me that this is one of
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those Capricorn One situations and the whole time thing was a blush I would
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have no trouble believing it I find it all completely perplexing now but it's
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it's like stolley serious relate their time in China Chinese time that I think
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it's i think is optimized for the east coast because that's where all the big
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cities are and but if you live in the western side of China
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the Sun doesn't even come up until like 11 and you just they just sit there live
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their lives accordingly may be screened and may be school doesn't start till 11
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over there in like three different documentaries in the last year that lead
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me to believe that the whole modern concept of time and being on a certain
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time comes out of the railroad schedules could be hit his head when I get there
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was a time like each train company had their own time that they kept it became
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very important obviously if you're changing trains at all gotta work
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together if it is nice that she did it has a certain appeal to that so it's
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like in China it depends where you live if you think of what you know what is a
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good bedtime for child you know it might be off by three hours depending on if
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you're in the east to the west but if you tell somebody I won't we will we
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will have this conference call at two o'clock in the afternoon everybody
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everybody knows it's at the right time I think that's very appealing that's why I
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mean like if I could ever get my brain around it go into pure GMT
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very appealing about that but there's always a certain time but that's not the
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only all refer to him even just trying to schedule stuff with people in this
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increasingly the central time zone they're really screws me up cuz it's
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just enough off from the two main areas of my head
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hey I'm not good with it either and and you know what you're right the central
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time is worse decided the layer tennis commentary
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to two weeks must been two weeks ago as a last week and that all runs on Chicago
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and I it's good for me I was ready an hour early
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funny part is on the east coast east coast winds always you know eastern time
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it's the canonical time in america everybody else just has to like do the
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math central is the only time zone where I periodically go the wrong way you guys
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are three hours later than it's been for some time for some reason sometimes when
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I'm doing the mental math I get the central time zone wrong so I'm putting
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them in the Pacific Ocean sometimes yeah and it just doesn't seem to the timeline
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to understate understand the International International Date Line
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you understand that if I make diagrams drawn and I can somehow we went to New
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Zealand it still makes no sense to me that you will you guys had a crazy fight
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because you had to get all the way over here before you can even have the
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terrible fight we had but it was like a 15 hour flight arriving in New Zealand
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we felt pretty good my wife had some nausea from clear traveling but I was
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cock of the walk I felt fine coming back from New Zealand I was out for three
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weeks if possible I don't know I found that to be worse to that getting back
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from New Zealand was just felt like I felt like I was drugged you don't like a
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lot Michael lopp lost a birthday oh no maybe this was not the year it was the
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seventh later little lady you didn't go yet it was the second time I spoke at
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Webb stock and Michael lopp got on an airplane in SFO the day before his
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birthday and when he stepped off the plane in Auckland it was the day after
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his birthday that's where you know it's like to be a leap year baby and I you
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know he's a big boy wasn't it wasn't sad about it but I got told Jonas Jonas was
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just blown away
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I mean nine year old kid like to think that you lost your breath because it's
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really unjust yeah and he liked that was like the thing like when he went back to
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school cuz Jones came with us again and then what would you do if you went to
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New Zealand's wow that's his story was my dad's friend lost her birthday in the
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heat like explained and all of his friends were like that outrageous that's
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the saddest
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kids unionize like missing are missing out a gift giving holiday right it just
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does it confuses me how that could happen just seems like it should be a
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different time what it will be following this year haha wow everything yeah well
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there's only one way to do it you kind of have to go
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Cumberbatch yeah but I don't know that that's a local yeah it's like it's not
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recognize you you're not gonna you can I gotta go with that at all
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yeah the shock on Sat right that's cool reader like movies like how did you get
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into our homes
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he's into the season to the the new movies
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the attorney general's joy those very much
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this kind of swashbuckling yes there it's especially the second one the
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second a little it's it's a little indiana Jones it's not it's not a very
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until late as you know there's some of that but it's it's a more
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action-oriented that's a good one like it was granger from Harry Potter I saw
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the pictures she was a dead ringer sheet as you can tell that I think yeah yeah
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that's good it's it's you know but this is his last couple years before that we
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dunno Marvel related you know costumed superheroes change
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Jonas Damon oxidant with the
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the car look at that photo look at that guy got a little pipe in his hand at the
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magnifying glass so great I love his cloak yeah yeah good stuff
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the same resources all that stuff on the internet she can join doesn't she
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yeah yeah same here same here he's getting older means 10 so he's I think
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he's running out but he's done is done just about all the big ones down he's
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done Buzz Lightyear that was really on Buzz Lightyear Han Solo indiana Jones
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the my my favorite was Clint Eastwood man with no name that was great I
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remember that his indiana Jones was really good to remember that one trying
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yeah he's kind of a canary in a coal mine for what's happening in the world
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when I hear you talking about like Minecraft and YouTube and stuff like
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that I'm learning a lot about what's coming up through you and him i'm
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looking at YouTube and I you to become a Minecraft really yeah that's coming out
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tomorrow I can't wait to read it because I gotta tell you this my crafting still
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terrified by only terrified we went to see Scott simpson's birthday party over
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this everything I've heard from everybody you know me right like I'm not
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that guy like she can play with the iPad I'm not like we're not crazy about that
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kind of stuff but every to a person every mom and dad says the same thing
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which is there's the life that I had with my kid before my craft and my life
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after it'll probably fine but I i 827 I'm enjoying these days and I i I'm some
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circumspect it's pretty impressive though it can be certainly you know it
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that best I can get it I really can't wait to read my book because I really
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it's like nothing else they've ever seen before there is a way that you can play
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it like a video game are you running around and there's these creepers
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they're like zombies avoid need to build a shelter for the night time but that's
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not really that's not what kids are doing it
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yeah it's more like virtual Lego the Lego companies should have bought
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minecraft it's crazy that Microsoft is rumored Disney does I can't be because I
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think I really think it's got stain or so many kids in homemade minecraft
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costumes for hello yeah but it was a very inefficient mostly you see a kid
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with a blocky kinda tunic and then holding up the box that should have been
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on the head to the can see a damn thing but they were they were blocking
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minecraft Reuters name is trying to say about the building the collaboration you
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yeah the game itself and forgive me because I have never played it but the
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so basically you start out in this world and you gotta stay alive you gonna build
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stuff you have to mine and then that enables you to get things accomplished
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combinations of different things make other things that's kind of the idea
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yeah and it's like you you did get raw materials and then you could turn the
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raw materials into things and the whole game is super hackable like he just
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unzip jar file and you know it's like going into Mac terms like opening up the
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application package and you can go into all the stuff out
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president for ya it very much so it's exactly like the way we hacked our stuff
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with resident twenty years ago that's what the kids are doing with Minecraft
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extensions and my backside but yeah and it's like and they play you know this is
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the part where it starts to get laid
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hey what the hell I gotta kinda have to step in there is apparently make sure
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this is alright was when they collaborate on a server and
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and it's all open this is the thing like your own house in the PRK guys are
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talking about this like you can get like a private server right if you absolutely
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no and that's really like as a responsible parent it's a you kind of
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you know you kinda have to limit it to private servers
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you know you can't just go play on the servers were people are you know could
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be anybody you know he's got one cheap and analytics $3 a month or something
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like that but Jonas has its own server take you know I going to web hosting
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account for 33 bucks a month and but then him and his friend he just gives an
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address to his friends and him in his friend from school can play together and
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it's just like the 6th at a private room
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yeah and you know and they built up together it's crazy like he showed me I
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him in one of his powers from school built like a place for their characters
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to live like a skyscraper you know you know pretty cool
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is pretty cool pad really like way up high though like massive massive
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building a lot of fun I don't know it's very free-form that's very creative and
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collaborative yeah and the thing is is this the company behind it it really
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genius and it is sort of a triumph of opens where you like I said the game is
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hackable but if you wanna play online it's not like you have to play with the
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official minecraft online server and you have to pay for or whatever anybody can
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run her own minecraft server it's all just you know you like the game is is
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commercially have to pay for the game you know we can give you license copy
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like a seed gotta be so boring I don't understand is television has channels
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you paid a change but like that the iPad app is like $6.99
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in that ok yeah but it's weird that the iPad one is weird like it's really
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dislike solo like you can't can't can't play the iPad 1 on the Java yeah yeah I
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don't know how they made the iPad 1 since all things written job but anyway
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you play on a computer and you can connect to any server and anybody can
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run a server and so there's public servers where there are thousands of
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people running around and you can just set up your own server anywhere you want
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and have just you and your two pals and nice and peaceful quiet but you can chat
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you know the server and that's where you know there's some parenting it needs to
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come in
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needs to just be how do you how do you if you do dat limit access to get hours
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for that are ya the guy is gonna be like you know certain time you gotta make
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sure your homework done first in first grade and by the time we picture of her
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after school she does her homework like we've got like an hour before bedtime so
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maybe maybe the thing here is to just as to turbo what you guys doin just push to
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1130 wake school night teases you should figure it out she could nap during
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recess or something I guess I have to admit as a parent I do feel like Jonah
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school seems pretty good on homework they don't heat seems to get a lot less
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than a lot of kids seem to now nationally he has a common whore now I
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don't even know I don't think we are just seems to me I as a parent I have
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the exact same perspective on it that I had when I was actually in school which
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is this is bullshit I've been
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you had me all day right like a long day like 8 a.m. to 3:00 in the afternoon is
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awful water tanker your time why is there more work to be done
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I don't know I've never feels good behavior hack like with my kids she
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brings home like worksheets infractions and so it's a lot of light show you know
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24 its show three eighths you know the feeling in his pipe pieces and it it
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really seems like this is not bad but it is what she did it's cool it's just they
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want to do more of it at home which to my mind that get the idea of the
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repetition of practice even though you know primacy and recency thing of trying
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at different places I can get all of that but this is one of those few legacy
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things that feels like something from our childhood we're really legitimately
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school was about teaching and follow rules about teaching you to like
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yourself to certain kind you mean like that has change so much from when we
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were kids stuff like creative spelling were like kids are encouraged to just
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try to spell stuff however at first we had a conference with the teacher about
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it but you know I was a kid there's no way you would see something on the wall
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at a typo on it but no red pen
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Jonas is cool I don't know when I don't think they started trying to enforce
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cracks billion to fourth grade like like 1st 2nd 3rd grade it to spell it spell
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everything everyone and somehow the teachers are adept at reading it but I
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would I can't even get to unhook your mind just gotta read phonetically I mean
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it's which teeth my daughter is missing because you pronounce things with a list
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like when she writes it but but but I I was I was a little concerned in a way
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that I'm usually not like is this ok issued wired right like should I I had
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the exact same experience and then I would open my eyes as I went to one day
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I went to pick him up at school
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and outside his classroom was it was some project that the whole class it
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done everybody's was tacked to the board in the hallway and I started looking at
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everybody else's in class and they were all exactly the same like in terms of
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self illiterate it's embarrassing at first cuz you're like my money only kid
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who doesn't know how to spell you know where it's why I thought oh shoot that's
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a big relief I kept thinking there's got to be we're gonna get an uncomfortable
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con teacher conference where they're gonna say hey he's got it and then
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nothing ever happened in fourth grade though they started like correcting your
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spelling and the kids rollet what the fuck yeah right exactly well i you know
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i i get it i think i mean it's knows anything does anything John it's so it's
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so conceited for us to imagine we can understand anything as lay people about
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how something works out or does it but I will say you know what we brought the
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730 sure of his super interesting to people who wonder about the Apple
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ecosystem but but but hey this is this a good things that look at first grade 6
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like we I just want her to come in here and write as much as she can every day
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but shouldn't she just writing a lowercase letter a forty times on a page
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like we did in the flag party she does she loves she I think she has great
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feeling we put on a day like a we put on like a you like Harry Potter audio book
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which is home from school and she sits there and makes art and drawers and
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writes for like two hours I never would have known I woulda scribbled little bit
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and colored maybe at her age but now she's doing stuff she's teaching herself
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cursive by tracing had zeroed in cursive when I was six or seven years old now to
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herself because it's fun because it's all it just all seems doable so what why
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when I guess I my only interest in it when I was early as I want to be able to
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read my parents and stuff not like like diaries recovery but it seemed like my
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parents had this secret language that I couldn't understand like
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my mom would write a shopping list and I couldn't read it right to state the
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obvious I think you know when you have stuff that you want to read when you
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have an incentive and the obvious example being like a list of ideas for
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presents or something or anything like whatever stuff on screen and in my case
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of my kids comics like she can suck a huge amount the story from the
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sequential art but then she can also put together enough of the words to know
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what it says without me reading it which I find fantastic you know it's it's
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where those like I'm I'm I have really mixed feelings about a lot of stuff to
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school stuff we got the Common Core here you know I guess the progeny of No Child
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Left Behind was lots of things you have to teachers are linked to be tested a
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certain way and some of it is it new math when you're a kid new math and
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apparently confused they did kind of a new version of new math that is
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completely mind-boggling didn't like the way they taught math and it did I i
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don't think it worked very well for Jonas at math is he's just not not a
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math person yes I was I took him at like a fish to water like I was always very
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very I never I don't even know how I learned everything they do you could
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just show it to me as a kid and I figured it out some kids just see stuff
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and it's just really may become a visual person I think about like some people
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people with perfect pitch basically see notes in a way that I see colors people
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with Matt C relationships that I don't see and I think some people are really
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just wired that way and God bless the man or woman who can identify that your
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kid and know what that's going to mean for them both up and down as the thing
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that they didn't do you know what the what the teaching methods but they did
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when I was in first grade we memorized everything we had to memorize 2007 1306
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1307 memorizing and we had to be test and at all I remember from first grade
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math is you know we get like a sheet with forty you know basic addition
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problems like that and you don't have a ninety seconds to minutes to do it and
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you know it was expected that some of the kids were aiming to complete the
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whole thing because it was not just about accuracy
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getting fast at it Genesis scored never you know encouraged any kind of
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memorization of anything I just never times tables like in third grade going
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on forever and ever
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now and in fact they are allowed to live with times tables you know I could you
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just like the matrix you know it's sick you know the numbers across numbers down
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go down and over and you can get the product they were allowed to use that
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charge when they take tests while and it to me is crazy because it's aight well
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yeah it in its you know it takes them forever to do to to complete a math test
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that in third grade that's what we did every day is we practice products and
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then we had the same you know in a different order like mixed up if we did
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the same 100 problems and that's what we did every single day but you know my
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take on it is apparent as I am certainly interested in education but I'm not
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going to pretend like I'm in education expert and the people you know who did
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our education experts that you know just because this confounds my common sense
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approach I don't want to be that guy you know there are so many of that guy John
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right now a lot of stuff with PTA she's really involved the PTA and like there
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are so many of that guy or gal and it's just the person who comes in who read
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something in the new yorker in like they got some ideas about how to really shake
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things up and it is not that different from your 22 year old friends giving you
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advice on child rearing right you know it's like I let me just say in terms of
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disclosure nothing in this world has more humbling or educational for me then
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walking in voluntary the classroom going on a field trip and I realize how much I
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am doing horribly wrong
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compared these teachers and he is right on the college and stuff like that so I
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don't go into the you know I'm certainly thinking I it seems to me that they
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could it would do well if they would just spend a month or two
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honing in on memorizing
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know some of these math facts but I don't go into the teacher conference and
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say here's what you should do you know yeah I have to admit I don't understand
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how you would not do that but she's seen numerous things as probable tumblers
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devoted to the wack a doodle way they're supposed to do now with these word
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problems the stuff like that
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fact fact fact families and stuff like that let's you know and again it's kinda
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mean but you will see stuff where where it's like no no you you don't subtract
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211 217 like that you have to do this from that and this from now and then
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imagine there's a hundred of these in three left over and I'm like I I
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honestly don't know how to do math that way but I guess there's a reason I guess
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this reason people like you probably like you figured out a lot of the tricks
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about getting close to something and then figure out the rest rate you figure
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that out a long time ago talking about some people have that can learn these
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tricks relic estimation and then getting it right after the estimation I bet you
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that forever
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yeah it's always just came naturally the one thing I remember remember being very
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proud of myself for is at some point I don't know when I don't know when I
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learned everything but a third fourth fifth grade somewhere in there probably
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before but at some point but we hadn't learned long division as a class and we
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took standardized tests take the Iowa Tests oh right yes yes yes i'd that does
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it does ring a bell I don't know if everybody know why we took the Iowa test
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but we still I love grew up in Pennsylvania but we took the Iowa Test
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of Basic Skills was like the SATs grade school kids and there was a long long
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indication that you understand how to how to solve this but what it really
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really admire people who can do that where they just they wanna talk about
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will all this time there will always be that and I know that you just said
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memorizing this stuff going through life because everybody has computers with
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stuff you know to do it they'll understand what's actually necessary I
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don't know something like what's the point of learning all this stuff if you
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don't know if you're never going to actually do it by hand any
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we don't get back to that idea of what's what peoples National kind of faculties
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are to use that's weird story in a slightly broader sense and you think
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about how many of the things you learn in elementary school
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either they won't be home with you get the story so the problem is if you get
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hit history died in an uninteresting whereby an uninspired teacher you see it
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as a collection of facts be memorized saying that as a story you know and
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including arithmetic just math is that was math understand there's there's a
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bigger story to tell here then plus minus times in divided by any means but
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just look at these patterns and it and it makes sense and maybe they're
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learning a word for what that's actually called but you know I just feel like
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having to having teachers who are able to to suss out and then put up with the
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parents who come in and give them things to kind of mother jones job I do I do
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think and I that sounds like is the same with with your school I do feel like the
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one died so the math you know I don't know what I know I i I kind of think
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they're doing it wrong but whatever but with writing I do kind of see where
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they're going and where I do object to the idea that doesn't count and then
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eventually it does start again but I do this we had the same thing they just
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want the kids to write stories lake from Mike first grade on and I do see that
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there that's very different I don't remember ever this writing I mean when I
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was in first grade we used you know me was the which were writing that was a
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nobody really cared what they did over Thanksgiving they want to make sure you
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could still write in cursive and you had a punctuated and spell it right now
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writing anything it was about demonstrating you had the mechanical
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yeah it whereas now it seems like it's more about they really wanted train
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those muscles in their minds at an early age to be able to express take your
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thoughts and express them and that worrying about spelling is just called
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it's just roadblocks to getting that out on the page and you know as a
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professional writer there is a line there certainly a very common line of
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advice for adult riders people writing that your first draft you should just go
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don't worry turn off thing that makes red underlines and stuff like that and
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just go and get it out on the page and then go back and do the stuff like even
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upper case that the characters start that sentence you you know you
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misspelled words you know totally need commas to close don't worry about that
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the first draft I don't really write like that I kind of don't need to but
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but what you describe what I feel like I might be oversimplifying this but I
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really do feel like I was inhibited me a little bit was if if there was one thing
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where I got a little bit it wasn't things like English Language Arts you
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know and the idea of having to write a paper was not the thing that worries me
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or special to me the thing that I didn't like was having to go into the process
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of doing index cards I'd like index cards always have but having to do the
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index cards turn the index cards in an outline that you have to turn in as part
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of the theme rather fuck me I could write this thing in my sleep but all
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these all these other this weird artificial scaffolding that I guess
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proves I learned your process like that always got in the way and I think
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there's that still that voice in a lot of people said they want to write
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anything where they're gonna they're gonna years turn off the red underlining
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his that's how they do they're doing it right even if it doesn't make any sense
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what they're actually writing down I had the same thing like we learned in in my
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school elementary schools like this and it was a year after year wasn't inside
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one teacher was like the curriculum was this sort of form all you mention the
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index cards I actually did I i forgot about that remember the outline but I do
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think that there was a time when we were supposed to use index cards to learn
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when to library did your research
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like my answer pretty prescriptive way you're supposed to make notes on every
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card and the outline that had weird rules like you had to start like with
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uppercase letters next level of hierarchy was like lower case letters
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like if you use a numeral two instead of a Roman numeral to a place that was
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marked against you that our way to disrupt somebody's thought process and
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behaving and think about what kind of digit to use two breaks right just just
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to get your ideas that right and it was and I remember the Roman numerals part
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because I was something that I was never good
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absolutely never good at Roman numerals you know once I get past five with the
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whole thing we have put the one before the digital never never worked for me I
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mean I still have to sit there and when I'm watching the Superbowl kind of
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haitian I still have to mentally sick can't do it the equivalent of arithmetic
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to figure out of 39 I have no idea the Super Bowl is right except no I don't
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it's just like an elder something p.m. I don't know I hate the Super Bowl freakin
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I've I really I wish I would have made like a public campaign for it it's
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really unnecessarily pretentious given the audience in a fancy but once they
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hit 50 that's where they should have stopped just you know just Super Bowl
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2014 Super Bowl 2015 numbers it's all ugly at this point it's really bad it
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was it only made sense the rocky films that they they use room never go beyond
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the number of Rocky films that the you know what that's cruel email you do if
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you need more than that you use a numeral thats exactly brought the upper
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bound on on room animals is where there was like seven something like that
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normal behind even they wouldn't break the rocky rule like they stopped adding
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films gotta love Wikipedia I'm looking at it right now they went to Rocky five
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that's anyone's Creed Creed must be upcoming I think I heard about this off
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its creed grandson Jordan from the wire and look at that it's that Wallace
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Wallace buses everywhere now this is crazy so they went to Rocky five on the
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strength I'm ok with seven I think he is ugly I think nine is execrable and
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well-known IX see when you start going before the numbers thats although I
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think I told you when I was a kid we r creature feature was on W XIX channel 19
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which is pretty great XIX says it's it's got like a nice too clever by half now
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but Palin Palin write a symmetry there's a there's a pretty visuals symmetry news
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how did they even had its amazing that a culture that came up with that had any
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success at all alone
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difficult to confuse people it's like one two and three are your own wishes
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hope this is ok here's the 22 marks and guess what there is is three marks yep
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floor before you and Maddie whoever came up with it you gotta say no that's
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tearing things like it just doesn't make sets you have to know about 50 it's like
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those directions where like you realize you should have read them all the way
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through before you started like he has something you were supposed to have done
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next step for its exactly exactly that's probably why my cable when I skip skip
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step by step before I did step 6 now but you know it's like like our our decimal
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notation it breaks down after a certain large number and that's why we switched
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to the exponential notation rare very very large numbers and you know that's
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and that's something I'd never made sense to me it made sense but I always
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had to go back and look it up and it's just telling you how many zeros are on
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the 10 something but it's because you know for dealing with those truly
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staggeringly large numbers writing it all out the Roman numerals breakdown at
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people have their reasons for wanting to get in 5250 plays implying that a little
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complexity that we accept it even if not always totally understand but they have
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an idea of fucking broken for that's i mean it seems like that that's a good
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first draft but let's try that again now can you do for single structure is
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it's gonna get the the italicized informal INF yeah yeah you're right on
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the 3rd I am like my father my grandfather share my name show their
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name I should say so I've had to live had to live with walking around putting
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my name and that's a bigger dick faster than having Roman numerals after name
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that's always the bad guy like an eighties eighties comedy for legal
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purposes you you you have to either dead now so I think I can fly on that a
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glorious year where the supreme was like super bowl right but even that was at
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least it was understandable but even that it kinda looks stupid right when
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you think you're right when you think a lot of texts and you know and you know
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what I'm one of the reasons I feel like its stock is that acts
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you know I've said this many times in the show clearly the coolest letters
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yeah absolutely
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like that the whole logic behind calling the Mac operating system os 10 is just
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the the excellent school it's got its diagonals and look great it's just a
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film right it's you know when you get on the smoker channels
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of texts always do Roman numerals for years on old movies is that the
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tradition rule
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industry thing you know what I mean when you say for the year he would always
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shown on TV shows and movies to show the year was made at always being
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yeah I think it's just like a traditional tarantino didn't wanna is
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like retro like that roadhouse me when you see it like a title screen that's
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got a Roman numeral date on it that that really is a throwback to the Expendables
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information organization and ease of use they also praised the responsiveness of
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you know gardener telling you exactly the things that I've been telling you
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is it easy it's supposed to ask their whole point the whole point is that all
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these internets his legacy ones like SharePoint in the old portal technology
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where huge pain in the ass they were confusing to set up confusing to
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administer and confusing as hell to use that's the big thing I remember when I
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had you know had jobs and we used all those kinds of apps always even if you
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got the open-source ones always kind of filling it was the worst of every world
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there are difficult to deal with their real flimsy their real ugly use and
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nobody wanted to use them it wasn't just that they weren't fine it was just that
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you every time I would use those kinds of apps I think like I don't understand
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who this is for and I have used a glue and like you understand it you go in
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there he turned on the stuff you need to turn off the stuff you don't you get
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exactly what you want and it actually works and it is fun to use it to me it's
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like the difference through the old smartphones before the iPhone and it
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would be all these things in God and you know what this is what is how to even
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make an event in the calendar I don't even know how to get there and got the
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iPhone and it's like when I get it I just tap this calendar and there's my
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calendar and I had to go back down like that for teens sharing here's the thing
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and amazing to me three to use with up to 10 people so if you have a small team
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forward without even paying for it they've caught that and if you are from
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a bigger organization you can try it out with up to 10 people before you spend a
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nickel to make sure that everything I'm telling you about it is true and then
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they have really great you know once you go past 10 people they've really really
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great rates there's way less you pay for it competing crappy internet where do
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here's the here's the address igloo software dot com slash the talk-show
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igloo software dot com slash the talk show and then they'll know you came
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right here from the show my thanks to them
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good people really good piece and AM lxvi that Syria was bored what I miss
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horrible I almost feel against one of those things like dropping in some
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exactly what it's like I'm specifically mention this to them pretty sure you
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will know what it means to be generous right I spent a lot of a lot of time
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learning it so I now on I don't wanna sound fancy per se just dropping in some
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roman numerals and kept us in my mind right now I think it's good nice hey so
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before we before we wrap this up I wanna say anything it's your show you know
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I've noticed that some links creep and let's just be nice to think that it's
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just Siracusa
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I'm guessing brook no but there's been a lot of leakage time wisely yeah I don't
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know what to do about that I'm not against it but I think now yeah we're
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not talking about ecosystems it's probably better we keep this short but
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you know let's go met on it though that is good though I do I have absolutely
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positive is no denying that the show has gone longer where I used to try to keep
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it to be in our thoughts and our is what I did I've never done anything for an
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hour in physical for more than an hour and I've never done anything involving
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talking for less than an hour I i never are almost never hit that
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hour but I by trying to keep it in our I felt like it would keep it from going to
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two hours and then you know it'd be like hour and 37 minutes or an hour 45
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minutes and now it just blows past the two hour mark every show and a lot of
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people love it and here's the funny thing to I and i think part of it comes
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to the fact that podcasting is still nascent media like to know but it still
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is our our idea of what they should be and when people will listen to him how
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often they listened to it it still liquid you know and I think when I first
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heard briefly called the Merlin show which is an interview show at it for a
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while it was tremendous amount of work for what we end up getting but
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everything I heard from people with you can't put this thing up you can have a
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youtube video that's more than 10 minutes there is nobody in the entire
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world will watch a video
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10 minutes really that's a stairway to heaven of online videos and like I don't
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know I think a fifteen minute interview is not too much to expect somebody could
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shake their heads data for podcasts I don't know if you remember this but I
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lot of the advice I heard earlier it was never got past 30 minutes just cause the
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files are so big and nobody will know anything there's a there there are
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technical factors like how long it takes to download and how much it costs to
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distribute and multiply the link live show by the number of people doing it
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especially that when we were everybody was hurting themselves with peter pan
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with i mean that was created in the prelims in days I was not that long ago
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I mean we're talking like five six seven years ago it was a huge when when dan
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and I first started doing the talk show it was just the download cost was a huge
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day it really was it was closer in
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relatively speaking in the in the grand scheme of things it was closer in time
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to the days of postage stamp size QuickTime videos then of like I just
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watched it to Tinos commercial in 1080p and it was like five times and I don't
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think they're going to be hurt because I did that you too can handle that really
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seriously when podcast darden I went to my first lipson account is the first
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thing I knew you know you get this space lives it was the first one I knew of the
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head unmetered bandwidth wished seemed completely untenable because it was so
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expensive
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hosted account just sitting there you're playing with will be gone in an hour
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even if your show was not popular you're done you could have a thirty make file
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the more than a few people don't litter yeah and there's things to like the fact
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that people listen using different apps so one person might have two or three
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downloads of the show because they've got one in iTunes their work and they've
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got one in iTunes at their home and one in overcast on their phone and you know
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it really really adds up at some point but today's world it you know the
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bandwidth is effectively free which is crazy we are used to get complaints a
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lot when we went over an hour
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people would say man I love you show but you gotta keep it under an hour show it
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and yeah just this version no not this version by the time cause this reason I
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think we're coming up on two years I think it's coming up top of my head
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Siracusa tech guy because all three of those were really good episodes they
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were really good talk show episodes I but not one of them was under two hours
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over three hours in a circular was like 300 303 and really good and it was 44
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you know and Dave whiskas actually really doesn't it to show a lot of times
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the version I get published is a little shorter than what is recorded but the
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Syracuse issue we recorded the day before this Coco Conference in Philly
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happen coca love which actually was remarkably goes a little hundred and
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fifty person IndyMac developer conference here in Philly it was really
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really great I can't can't believe it was the first instance of it was great
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to hear ya still thriving you know I've been to first conferences and they're
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never there always there cool like the first singleton was great but the second
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singleton was way better because they had like you know they knew like 15
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things to do better than new to get a better venue in this Coco love
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conference I can't believe it was the first one because it was like a really
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great venue
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everything ran on time and really great but anyway dave was speaking at it and
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bring some interest so he needed you know he was going to spend time but I
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really wanted the show to come out that day Friday so Syracuse NY recorded
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knowing we better not screw up hopefully we will you know we don't have any kind
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of it necessary at it so 303 was like it was I don't think that I don't think
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Dave would have cut anything no but we do know it was a very tight show he says
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very compact time you'll remember that when he and Dan talked about goodfellas
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I mean was an hour longer than the movie raised but awesome if there ever is if
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ever you know it sounds crazy that your discussion of a movie would be longer
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than the movie but if it happens with us and we did Eric Lindros it's actually
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easier than you think
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yea well because you can you know if it's true if it's truly a good movie
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there are details there's little things that go by like this in the movie you
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know in a snap but that if you really stop and think about are worth a lengthy
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discussion if you're somebody Lake Siracusa what that movie or me with Eric
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Lindros maybe like another one for me would be like Big Lebowski or they're
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certain movies where did just that I like them it is just that I think
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they're really good isn't just the right things to say about them it's just that
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there's so many things nobody's ever bothered to ask me about that I thought
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you know you're like this there's so many things I've been thinking about
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about this thing for years but no one has ever asked me about in this is the
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only chance in the entire world I'm gonna get
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to talk about this unified field theory about like you know you're single point
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perspective with Stanley Kubrick how many times we get to talk about that how
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many times you get to talk about the way steven spielberg uses thirds of the
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to say absolutely I do know and like I said in the early days we used to get
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complaints when we go over an hour from some people and I understood it totally
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see like I you know it and I don't want to be corny about this but is in a way
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that it's an honor that people read my stuff and read my writing it's in some
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ways even more of an honor the people listen to the show when I appear on
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other people's pockets because it's even more of your time it takes longer to
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listen to a podcast jump in its simple little bit off of a blog post I mean if
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you're gonna sit down to an interview Unitech into Syracuse interview you
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better bring a sandwich when I really a lot of people
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Jonas was just saying to me about how he he notices when he plays video games
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like nintendo games and they put again the cutscenes and the characters on
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screen talk and they put subtitles underneath that he always read them even
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though you know they're talking and I said you know why I said I do the same
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kind of day and he said you know why I think it's because you read faster than
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you can listen and he's a yeah that truly you've already read the dialogue
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before they're even halfway through the sentence and it's like you know so
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people can read their entire by way faster than they can listen to the show
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so it's a real honor and so when people would complain that the show is too long
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a very good point because it's a privilege that you're giving me even an
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hour of your time but I don't get any complaint anymore I don't know if there
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are people out there listening right now who silently hate that this show has
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expanded and time you should write to me and let me know because you know I'd be
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interested to know that but what I've been hearing lately is people who love
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well my feelings on this have really evolved I receive gone full circle but
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they've done something very very near to full-service circle
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and in the short version is I think it depends on what kind of show it is you
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know think about this I mean think about like if you listen to I'm just listening
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perfect perfect in length
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you know it's also a radio show it's a professional journalist talking an
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organized way and it makes a lot of sense and you wouldn't want to go on for
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four hours if it's if it's in you know part of the thing when you're listening
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to Lake well i'll be brave enough to talk myself in here but like a show like
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this show Lake definitely ATP and audience a show like roderick on the
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line for their cause you wanna see how this unfolds
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skip any of this like you want to see here's where it started
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what happens next we're gonna go from now on I mean and I think that's really
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different from the topic obsessed outline driven show that a lot of people
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have come up with it in the can be very tight series of my feelings of fault I
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mean the joke I used to make when I first heard in a podcast 43 folders in
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you know quickly not too long after that but anyhow back then the joke I was made
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hours that's what podcast used to seem like they were totally unedited they
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were recorded and a lot of people who were not used to having heard what their
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first it was like the 44th podcast like it was rarely more like seven or eight
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minutes as I had internalized that like that's how long should be people are
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going but what puts on their iPod I guess that's a big file keep these small
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chest a little bit of a nice today I don't know if there's any messages that
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voted to listen to that one and I cannot believe how fast it went by I was like I
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was it like I'm just settling in for the first month or break on talk show by
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this point you know but now today
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you know what's the problem connected shows like that shows like ATP ATP be
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two hours long and I'm totally fine with it I'm just there to listen for however
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long it is at normal speed I do the other cast thing right through the
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automatically you know clip out pauses part but I never listen it artificially
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high speeds up a little bit I pump it up a little bit of 1.1 1.5 yeah like a 1.2
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end up being about one point one or so I think with overcast but you know if you
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get used to it it's no problem but certain shows with lots of music I
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turned that off because it drives me crazy and then like an audiophile
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i'm saying is the bottom line yes it has changed a lot of things for almost
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everybody if people like your show and we quickly and frankly at that time it
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drove me nuts because they're like an hour and 15 minutes I feel like I've
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really gotta pee and the show is getting way too long the people would be like oh
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god please record everything from every second that you're ever on the air and
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put it out like you've got to be kidding me look after you work with that of
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missing or that is does the state of mind kind of hard to groc no I honestly
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I'm not you you're not a huge podcast listener are you know because I think
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that there's so many that I like but I just don't have the time in my weakness
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in its cuz i dont i dont community that paper how's that helping with podcasts
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yeah I always see people say like it's a common thing on Twitter where where if
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roderick on the line style show between you and insert that person every week
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that's that's like the people who most like somebody said it was Syracuse's
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last episode but I C you know other people like it when you know Joanna
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stern is on with me and she's so good but we and we do I do I always think
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when I recorded her but people say like I would just love like roderick on the
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you today in the past cuz I think we really where we are defining three white
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guys talking about nothing shows right that was funny though because the
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editing aesthetic of you look nice and that show is super tightly edited right
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like behind the scenes like like going into like the dark room and it's there's
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thousands of strips of you know you know I guess Adam used to do a lot of the
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ending was an editor I mean until super busy at the end he always had it wasn't
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sounded as though it was just a lot of people thought a lot of people like how
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felt so easy you know there was an easiness to it felt like you guys could
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just sit down and in 40 minutes come up with a 35 minute you look nice today
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just right off the cuff me and I appreciate you saying that it's you know
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so much of it was out of work and you know I would go back and
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I didn't do this I have most of the time I would listen to the wrong version and
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then the edited version especially later on and it's amazing to see would take
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stuff and change the order of it he would duck stops talking over each other
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because everybody else in the world he believed even how many things are day
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for that matter like a madman sit near him to listen is bullshit and then have
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to figure out where to talk but I can't I would never do that in a million years
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completely crazy but I don't drop in some music or something you know it it
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really you know there's a special show it on but it got hurt our own show
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edited it became clear what show to do while we're recording it sounds silly
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but like I think they probably needed strictly speaking less editing as we
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went but that just gave out a more fuel to like you know something interesting
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out of it but I yeah I i one of my theories on why the long shows longer
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shows are getting more palatable is that people are better able to listen
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wherever whenever right like we didn't have you know when you you say you know
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what was the show starred in 2005 as forty folders and then quickly right so
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there weren't you don't even have a phone that could play right let let
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alone an eight gigabyte phone that you could easily fill a bag that you can
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head to carry around all day it was it was an effort even with the iPod iPod
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there was still a fair amount of effort to keeping that up today and you know
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now you could run out of spite who puts like I have to clear out space I always
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going to start with something like it's caster overcast as I have four gigs of
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audio files in there I think about that the about how crazy that is like back
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then that stands apart of your iPod could be filled up in no time so yeah
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you're right and you know it's it's commuting its people who take trains and
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use headphones and people with cars that have some sort of Bluetooth connectivity
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you know you load up your overcast with a bunch of shows
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and they're always there you don't have to do this stupid thing where you have
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to download it to your computer first and in tendering from iTunes it's huge
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it's absolutely huge into action was when you did not have to be hooked up to
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a Mac it seems like I can future improvement in retrospect that like to
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me in retrospect that that's that's when everything changed over there I think
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it's largely responsible for the fact that podcasts are like a real part of my
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career now I mean as I get significant portion of what I make a dent fireball
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got untethered from the computer when they became full of that caucus growing
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interest in doing fireball yes it's interesting that your timing is good for
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yeah and it's I think that's also why the longer shows are seemingly palatable
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maybe the people who hate them have given up and stopped listening I don't
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know but I think it's because you always have it with you and even if you don't
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have to our chance to listen to this all want you just listen to the our first
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you know I one time when marco was on a couple months ago I actually it went
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real crazy long like this over two hours and so I literally broken up into two
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episodes gotta remember that there was overcast and look for a parts you know I
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think it was like four hours I think I had to be broken up but it helped me
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because I was behind on the sponsor you know things in the second but
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you know that they had fallen behind schedule and it just
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yeah well it's because you know I don't have a regular probably would help if I
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got used to try to record every Thursday which is what we're doing this but no
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matter what I do it seems like I don't know I never recorded more than 40
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episodes here I would do i would do 52 but it's pretty consistent that it comes
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out to 40 because sometimes I just for show that I don't really prepare for I
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just come into it I find it mentally exhausted by the time I'm done talking
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to you here I'm going to be spent that they were not allowed to say I feel the
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same way they feel tired after after recording a podcast on times and I've
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told you this before on my mother's father was a coal mine as a coal miner
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and he died he died of a disease called black lung and leg at the age of 17 he
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died of blunt talk about computers for 20 right but I remember you know what
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but I remember he was very kind man and you know I was only in 1st grade when he
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died but he was never one in a pop-up you know he he always had a secret stash
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of cookies
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Pepperidge Farm sugar cookies which is what a great name for sugar sugar cane
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no actually let let's go ahead with this is right but this is me complaining
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about the exhaust how exhausting is to talk to one of my bed rest and dearest
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friends for two hours
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two generations removed from a man who went into danger is dark black hole
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breathing black dust that would eventually kill him an early age I don't
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even had at the show and I'm complaining for everybody about how hard it is but I
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do I find it you know and somebody it does give me an enormous amount of
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respect for professional broadcasters like howard stern could do it every
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freakin day our six hours a day
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yeah I cannot believe morning edition where you know morning edition starts
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you guys get a starting at six in the morning it starts raining here at three
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in the morning to get into the studio 23 in the morning to to record that show
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you may do that every day for years for a career
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ridiculous the chicken and egg this interesting here we can do it now cuz I
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was sitting here waiting for your cable get fixed and thinking about you know
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how how strange it is the way the system is changed where you know I never really
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understood what was going on in the world of consumer technology especially
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as it related to me right up until the top of that stuff I've done some work
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with companies like even the small record labels and stuff talking about
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her son really guys you're you're facing up against my space here you're facing
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up against cos I hear here's the things to think about you know in terms of
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having a strategy that works for moving beyond being in Sam Goody because that
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was a conversation that really need to be had and one hand that conversation
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but fine as they like for me I was that guy I was the internet guy four years
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going all you're gonna have to put out a high quality mp3's of your stuff in no
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DRM and that didn't happen for a really long time and then suddenly was selling
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no DRM mp3's and I was like huh I was right all along
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and how long ago was that without letting me be four years ago three you
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know how to be longer but like just pure mp3's with no DRM when was that he lets
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you see six years ago whatever it was something that I guess I went into a
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long winter's now because then I woke up and asked to see the numbers so then
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they become what the largest retailer music retailer in america for a while
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was not the case store ya know but you have you watched the strength its cool
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like I was here I was being mister futurist guy were all you gotta do is go
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sell your stuff on the internet but like I can't believe how long it took to go
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from that juggernaut to now watching that deadline go down and now as you
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wake up and suddenly everybody wants streaming and I just I'm not be kind of
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running over my mind where was I was I just did that happen when my daughter
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was young and I just missed it but it really seems like it so quickly went
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from this tortured slide from like the late nineties you know now what have you
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got to the point of stuff online that seemed like it took forever but in my
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head it feels good in the blink of an eye that's really start to go away
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quickly
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yeah you know me I'm trying to think about my own consumption of stuff we
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like you know again how long does it go that we got the iTunes Match couple
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three years ago but couple years ago he because steve Jobs was still in the last
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two years I've been sitting there with MusicBrainz like making sure I get the
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right mp3 date in there to get everything synced up and get the high
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quality version and that some point I stopped sweating this much I was buying
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less I was eating less and I was listening to a lot more podcasts and
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still have been trying to have had this last weekend I'm trying to figure out
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where it went
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that I spend most of my time listening to podcast is absolutely not the case
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even like five years ago I would listen to music all day long
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even listen to radio all day long I'm not saying I'm not saying the podcast
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listening is what's causing that to change but I wonder how much of a factor
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that is at least amongst people like us by musical us we talk about music maybe
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it's cause we're getting older but I don't know I really feel like they're
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still just a huge change underway right now I was thinking about it with this
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the the way that the streaming is clearly the future and you know it by
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buying music is over the last years kinda over the last platform for buying
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we I got caught up in it to where I thought that the way the music industry
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worked was every decade or so a new format comes along and instead of buying
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vinyl now you by cassette tapes at my teenagers was was a tease and that's
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there was the cassette I had all of my all of my money was tied up in cassette
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tapes and in the nineties came the CDs and it kind of sucked because I had to
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buy actually did I did that thing that the music industry you know loves I
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Reebok music on CD because I wanted it on CD could you could you could sort of
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blind yourself to the ridiculous cost of that back then it was what 12 13 bucks
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for see ya you get to the pricing well okay on the one hand the quality of this
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straight out of the box is gonna be like twice or three times is good however you
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perceive it to be so much better and I now I'm never gonna have to do this
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again is this is this will be a perfect sound forever this this city will last
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in in exactly the sound exactly the same than a hundred years never gonna wear
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out etcetera etcetera and then you know digital came in it was clear that you
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know better
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download me not to worry about keeping track of all these discs nobody can
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never say never gonna lose the disc again member when you'd really be in the
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mood to listen to my review I read but we want to go in the other room I would
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go and get like I'm in the mood for led zeppelin for when you want Led Zeppelin
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for you gotta have and i'd go get the desk and over the box out of the box set
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open it up and the disc isn't it
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sleeve guess what you know and I just figured the distributor way would be
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where is clearly it's just going to streaming but I think back to my
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teenagers Tues I spent on it I'm tons of time listening to FM radio and such
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anything beyond public radio or occasionally baseball but like members
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into regular radio feels really foreign to me if you like a parody of radio yeah
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yeah it doesn't feel like the real radio it's just like this if you don't watch
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TV in the afternoon for a while and then you watch TV in the afternoon you are
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these poor people today yesterday I don't know why I don't even know what
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it's like lawsuits and like medical devices and you can buy needles needles
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delivered to your house if you received the TMZ Shia I swear to god this is your
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homework everybody listening everybody listening to all of you myrna man you
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include
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I swear to God go to your TiVo and have it set don't don't don't subscribe just
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have a record one episode like tomorrow like the Friday afternoon episode of TNG
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here's the show it's a half an hour I think I don't know maybe it's it's it's
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just a couple of guys in the camera shot with cameras in the TMC newsroom they've
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got to be in LA I don't know if they're not delayed shocked so they're in LA
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they have a newsroom and they have maybe forty or fifty employees and they're
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just talking about the stuff that's going to be on TMZ that on the website I
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guess it's just celebrity gossip and then they just make but it's all it's
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mostly scandalous it's not like carpet DTE this is scandalous stuff and it's
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just sit there and make fun of people for his first car ad with that little
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judge crippled general guy more commercials the commercials
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the commercials are you so so the content sure I mean the judge shows
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that's what the commercials are the worst and that's what I get when I was
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into the most radio it's it's so gross well as the political novel that it's
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just you know what you're describing them I guess seems like every decade
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everything would change and then you know and then by the nineties it seemed
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like it was really settling down in early 2008 was amazing for me was
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ironically enough of course it was on one of my devices like probably the
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Amazon fire TV which is easily my runaway favorite entertainment device
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right now and when it looked like Amazon at some point did that thing where NEC
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most of the CDs you bought a kind of grandfather you into an electronic copy
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about this
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yeah by the mp3 version if you bought the CD they had some kind of deal we're
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basically if you buy the CD in your locker or whatever you would have all of
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your old files and I do with our God I wish that would change everything from
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me I would its acrobatic to do right now I can do it and spend a lot of money or
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I can do it and run a lot of Python but it's it's just it's such a pain for the
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experience of justified text but I want the paper book How I hear ya I hear you
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like point being that like there was a time when like you convince yourself a
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collector your CD collector and you collected them and you put them on the
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shelves in a certain order and you look pretty and for me the last gasp but that
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me getting a record that I got somewhere dropping into the card is the last gasp
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matched uploaded you know rejected like I don't care anymore like I signed up
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who is has been obsessed with music for forty years I can't believe how much I
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think I could live without almost all of that stuff and it's really weird yeah
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it's exactly there with you I used to have it you know i didnt i didnt Biol
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compared to most of my friends private probably but fewer CDs than many of them
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absolutely positively no hyperbole that most of my liquid net worth was tied up
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much I could learn about them from working it like how they organize the
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resale value though the CDs did cause you can what you can do for CDs when
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you're strapped for cash is sell a couple you know you'd find a couple that
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you haven't listened to for a while and you'd get you know 67 bucks for him you
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know and then they do you could buy the used ones for like $9.99
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you know there was a little bit arbitrage in there but you could you
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could take four or five CDs into the CD store in and come out with absolutely
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but but you know it wasn't more than a few years ago that I remember hearing
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revolutionary to me that there was a service where you could mail or drop off
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all of your CDs and now get ready for this what they're gonna do is there
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gonna rip all those at high quality get the right metadata send them back to you
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on a hard drive like I swear to Christ if you like about five years ago that
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still seemed amiss and now that seems like the craziest Rube Goldberg machine
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I've ever heard in my life it would be like I'm attaching memory cycling
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why would I do that today I don't know speaking about podcasting the question I
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have one more sponsored thank our fourth and final sponsor brand-new
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called Squarespace was at a startup John that is a start time where they based I
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guess I think Silicon Valley John I think that they're on the Internet
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while they're probably preeminent podcast sponsor out there but the fact
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it's like a funny thing because people you know you make a website and I daring
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fireballs keeps just the same thing but people keep coming up with new ideas for
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websites and more and more and more alot of people going to Squarespace first to
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set them up because it really is credibly adaptive platform for creating
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very very different types of sites blogs podcasts awful iPod castro supreme
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to write and all the crazy stuff like getting an RSS feed that iTunes is going
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to be satisfied with it all just pops out the other end but if you're a
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photographer and you want to set up a gallery site or a huge thing big and
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growing is their commerce features for you can set up shop for anything whether
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they should company that makes neckties for gentlemen just go there if you
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haven't done it just go there and just look at their gallery of example sites
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of things built with Squarespace and you almost can't believe that they're all
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built using the same platform because each one is so unique
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a graphic designer who setting up a gallery of their work or somebody who is
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selling custom high-end coffee makers or something like that all of it now
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they've brand new version 7 of their platform better than ever they have all
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sorts of information on the site I can't even get into how many ways it's better
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but just really really cool company really great and it's just if you have
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an idea for a website of any kind your own podcast selling stuff starting a
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blog can't recommend highly enough that you go there you gonna save so much time
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setting it up and it's really really great and they have award-winning
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keeps them as successful as they are because it's the hardest thing to get
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24 7 customer support they've got people in New York think it to double and
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somewhere in Europe and now Portland Oregon so that more or less covers the
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globe maybe maybe if you or Ben Thompson and you live in Taipei maybe you know he
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has his or her own type a personality oh no no he's in Taiwan who is funny as
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always it's always funny trying to schedule a time to record a show them
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where do you go to find out more Foursquare space so that they know you
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came from here here's what you do
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they've got two things here is the URL square space.com / river just my last
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name square space.com / grouper go there check them out
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look at the new stuff that they've got with the version 7 of this now when you
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sign-up use this code jeje just my initials J G and you'll save 10% off my
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thanks to Squarespace seriously if you have an idea for a website go there and
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check it out you gonna get a better looking site and save tons and tons of
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time and a great kisser one thing John
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space where space is probably for you and you don't realize it yet but I can
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almost promise you if not for you I pretty much compromises for somebody you
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know so even if you are like a total codes slinging daring fireball net job
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just remember there something in your life
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who's not decorated that and does not want to have to restart my sequel or
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something and that's that might be who's Chris basis for your life and if you've
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ever had said there may be set aside for somebody like this is gonna be the
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answer to your prayers
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it is so great and so even if it's not exactly for you the listener please keep
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in mind it could be perfect to hear the testimony Marco had a couple weeks ago
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an ATP where he was talking with it he you know somehow involved with the
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preschool for their son equivalent PTA and that the school was gonna have a
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fundraiser in one of the set up a new website like for this thing with the
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kids school and had like a budget for $5,000 or something which is a lot of
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money for a donation run Pete and and Marco of course being marked me eyes
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me a day and he like went up Squarespace for the PTA and like 10 bucks a month
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and everything that you guys were budgeting $5,000 for now it's $10 a
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month and it just write it and liked what he said is that he did it he did
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invest a little bit of time to get it up and running and pick a template and get
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things set up and configure it but now it's just we don't have to write
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documentation you don't have to write this is my kids preschool where like
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you don't need to know him on Twitter you need to know go put me over here to
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pull weeds and pick up cat poop with headphones on and I will be happy please
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it up again the I T committee somehow I ended up getting involved with the
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website and they had so much salt costs in this really really stupid website
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that nobody ever used and nobody knew how to update my job became my track
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that are up send it to me and I will have a website for you by tonight and
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then we'll never speak of it again and it's like it's a game-changer I honestly
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someone and then you don't want to you know you said you know people who may be
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in some cases could make a site that will not stand up that well but they
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long episodes let me know nobody else is saying that people are saying they
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do about 40 episodes a year but they've gotten longer so I am podcast the time
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understand that I've been no I mean like when you find out that the dinner is
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internet internet how things could get it fixed account but they still get a
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the dog cat or less for having me it's always a pleasure
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been too long has been too long I'm I'm it's it's always a lot of fun to do I
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really enjoy your show and it's always great to be here there's a branding on
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dogs and cat like maybe they've got like it maybe they have a good commercial
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that involves a dog you know it to random thought they needed something to
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design job and are you know agree and dreams of a good job listens to our show
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about that when I'm sleeping in a room and let's tell people where they can
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