00:00:00 ◼ ► so where to start I say we talked about it renee Richards stark Year in Review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► yes we're better to start than January it was a quiet beginning of the year it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► was so quiet that people were again pounding the Doom drum set up wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/10">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► yeah and maybe even before we get into details like January maybe just take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/14">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► that and and use it to me like the Year in Review as a whole with zoom out big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/20">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► level what we gonna look back on this year I would say that this was the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/26">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► where that that sense that that Apple can't do it anymore since got rubbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/30">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► away slowly but surely over the course of the year I agree I think it built up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/38">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► to think it reached a crescendo because people kept making a big deal of Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/42">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► Cook saying we be releasing new product category categories throughout the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/46">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► and then is a month sticked on they seem to get more and more personally angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/49">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► yeah I think so too and i think is it at the naysayers have been down on coke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/54">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► overall anyway like that's the root of their amazing we go over the short term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/63">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► at least they wanted him fired they said was destroying Apple they kept comparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/69">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► him to Steve Jobs in a very negative way and looking back at an onsite it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/73">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► absolutely ridiculous yeah I was just thinking that before we started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/77">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► recording I was thinking it I don't think anybody called for the 2014 but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/81">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► least in 2013 you can find several instances of us tend to be serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/86">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► business writers calling either for Tim Cook to be outright fired or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/91">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► calling for Apple's board to like rain man and and having region or the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/96">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► we did have hunted Empire think earlier this year we sort of show that Apple was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/102">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► completely doing without Steve Jobs yeah I think it's I think that's sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/106">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► publication of haunted Empire her first name last name is Cain are you could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/111">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► I would say that the publication of her book haunted empire was sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/123">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► high-water mark but I would say maybe the low low water mark of Apple nay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/127">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► saying yeah when did recommend those private February yeah it was when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/132">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► with Jason Snelling had to be around mackerel time or something which was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/139">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► think february yeah yeah and I could not help but get the feeling when I read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/143">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► that it was rushed into publication because I kind of felt like at least if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/151">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► she didn't know at least her the editorial team at a publisher sorting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/157">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► out the sense that the time was ticking on that sort of doom and gloom was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/162">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► interesting because you could probably make an argument for hunting empire but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/167">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► they don't even make an attempt to make it was a bunch of pages strung together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/172">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► nothing resembling a book and a bunch of the and a couple of anecdotes to string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/175">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► yeah I do think though like if there is I think it's a very bad book and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/181">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► it's already showing at age and I think it's only gonna look worse as the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/186">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► go on but on the other hand I've kind of glad the book exists because it captures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/190">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► that sort of like post Steve Jobs pre Apple watch negative Apple perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/197">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► like in hindsight you know i mean this year's they always blur together and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/208">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► five years from now it's like this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/212">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► you know period in between where the Apple iTunes announced him when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/216">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► actually have it and we have generation two and three by you know for five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/220">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► from now it'll just be a blink you know snap our fingers and think about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/224">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► this interim period but I feel like her book sort of captures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/230">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► epitomizes that that sort of negative viewpoint yeah I think that's absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/233">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► true we do tend to look back at the rose colored glasses of the original iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/238">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► the original iPad they couldn't do ne win nearly what they could do now but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/241">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► still look at them with fun as we think of current software updates is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/244">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► buggy but you look back at ISU a two-point something when everyone simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/248">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► couldn't attach to a 3G network and Apple is rushing out a fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/252">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► we have we have this weird sort of affectionate thing for the past so I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/255">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► that I think there's 2014 in a nutshell is that the the world at large and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/262">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► conventional wisdom about Apple and about Tim Cook's leadership have caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/266">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► up to reality which is that the company was you know Steve Jobs left the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/271">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► in very good shape and in very good hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/277">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► yes it took about two or three years it seems for the mainstream financial media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/280">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► sort of concede that point I would say that almost a full three years right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/286">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► because he died in 2011 yes I would say it was a full three years and Tim Cook I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/291">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► mean the company has never been worth more the stock prices through the roof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/296">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► they've introduced not only the Apple watch but Apple pay they have an 8x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/299">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► processor they have a five k iMac and you still look at Fortune contributor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/303">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► Network sometimes and and in you just want to know how to get published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/307">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► yeah I write your own review January definitely a slow start I think yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/311">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► again for some years ago when you got the Verizon iPhone in January 1 year we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/318">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► got an education event at previous years we had the introduction of the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► we've had macworld interaction of the iPhone so there was sort of for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/325">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► period of time there were events that were there was news in January and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► think last year there was nothing until the BBC in this year i think is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/333">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► identical to that would say so I mean there's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/338">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► now that Apple doesn't make announcements in january early stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/345">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► they haven't in recent years I mean who knows this year in theory they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/349">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► have a wide open but it's pretty much left to CES which Apple doesn't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/353">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► part in yes for all of the industry news I don't recall anything from this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/359">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► to 2014 CES that ended up mattering a damn bit no I mean I think this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/367">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► will be different just because of health kit car play but last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/373">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► CES was a graveyard he was just like matrix shot after matrix office cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/377">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► yeah I don't think they knew what they were going to you know going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/384">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► industry as a whole didn't even know what they were trying to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► they were making their fitness bands and I remember one of the worst things aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/391">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► CBS was an Android powered car system and it was running Gingerbread and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/394">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► guy told us with a straight face that you could leave it on for five days but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/399">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► would drain your car battery so you had to put in standby mode but if you put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/402">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► so if you turned it off it would take like five minutes to boot again this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/406">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► something that they actually had a press event are you going to see yet again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/411">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► yeah absolutely what dan from who was on the show last week is going for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/417">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► first time this year and I said with him I I always talked about going but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/421">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► never gone it's alternatively completely barren or incredibly busy and you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/426">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► know what's gonna happen here a year so I don't have my faith what they think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/430">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► I think this year will be different cuz we will have a watch event maybe we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/435">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► see another Apple television be a bigger iPod day this spring sounds exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► this year but last year up until up until June it really was everyone just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/441">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► saying where's the new stuff from Apple whereas new stuff are they capable of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/445">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► inhibiting still yeah why we have to wait while we have to wait for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/448">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► well that's the thing that it understands 2012 2006 iPhone no because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/453">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► it was another product yet and the Apple watch won't be a product until early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/458">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► you don't want them to ship what they have right now yeah you know to compare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/463">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► and contrast with I think the antithesis of Apple's you know we'll let you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/468">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► attitude is Google you know who has been you know Google glass was clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/474">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► released ahead of its time I mean there's still that it still isn't retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/481">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► consumer product but the fact that they sold it at all to get the call the ppl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/485">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► explorers yes you know is is the antithesis of Apple's strategy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/489">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► would be the equivalent of Apple had led WWDC explorers start wearing and using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/494">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► an Apple watch you know eighteen months ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► running like skank watch software or something right and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/503">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► self-driving cars so many things that Google does they show way early and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/509">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► some sense that the the I don't think it's productive and you know everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/516">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► everything up some people mentioned that the cars in particular it's impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/522">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► to do it without showing your hand because there's no way to road test them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/525">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► you know you have to protest in public before you can release them and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/530">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► way to keep 12 down the road you can't keep it secret so maybe the self-driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/534">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► cars is a bit of a bad example but you know the other products they do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/538">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► release and I think it I think ultimately it's counterproductive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/546">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► because I think it's absolute way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► excitement from the real things you're actually have available to sell to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/552">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► people but on the other hand it absolutely works to satisfy the desires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/557">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► of the tech press as as an industry because you're giving them something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/564">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► yeah i think thats exactly I think for the tech press reception really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/570">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► reality so we see a demo of the Moto 2 40 or 360 or whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/573">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► even though it's not real even though leaving a screen like that I like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/578">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► they showed the video is a complete science fiction fantasy it sets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/581">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► expectations for that and it it makes people think that Google's really busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/585">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► in their products coming in their innovating and are doing all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/588">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► things and if it comes out in some cases you know it's complete turd but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/590">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► everyone's were you seen the video the excitement already happened and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/594">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► everything else from then on his appointment even things made by Apple or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/597">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► yeah it's I think mult has said it best worries you know I think it's multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/602">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► one of his lines that you know Apple's current products continue to fail when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/607">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► compared to the upcoming products in future years from its competitors if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/613">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► iPhone 5 see was a huge disappointment even though it was the third most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/619">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► popular phone in the world and the iPad sales are lagging even though there any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/622">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► company in the world be happy to have that their product line or another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/626">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► example I just noticed this week and it's funny I haven't looked it up yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► but the same day or within 24 hours there was in New York Times story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/632">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► the success of Apple pay and about a whole bunch of nude retailers who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/640">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► signed up for it to some big supermarket chains like winn-dixie which is real big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/644">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► in the South here in Aus I forget who else but some big big name retailers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/651">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► have signed up and companies like Whole Foods have been on board since it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/655">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► started who said that it's you know it accounts for over one percent of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► transactions and an enormous percent of you know the digital transactions or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/664">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► would you call it cordless transactions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/669">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► and at the same time there were like three or four stories that I saw all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/672">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► based on the same analyst report about what what what trouble apple pays in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/677">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► because they've woken up the MCX partners and really gotten the MCX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/683">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► partners to really want to do a good job and so now apple pays in trouble because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/688">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► MCX is is still coming and it's amazing that article I think it was two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/693">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► ago where someone said Apple pay another one of the four networks that Apple pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/698">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► was a huge disappointment because it was only responsible for us very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/703">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► amount of transactions worldwide nevermind American have a much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/707">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► equipment for it and it was only available in america which which is far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/710">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► behind in terms of NSC it's amazing what perspective they can bring to try hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/713">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► enough to put in the badly right that there's no other digital you know pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/717">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► with your phone transaction retail thing that even close to as popular as Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/723">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► pay but somehow it's a failure because it's still only one percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/728">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► two months and in one country not even two months right hadn't even launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/732">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► until November yet thanked October came with iOS 4.1 alright well that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/737">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► about two months two months and it's crazy to me too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/744">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► with the MCX that they don't mention the people who think you know want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/752">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► promote it which I think I think it's not because they actually believe it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/760">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► think it's even though they're analyst rather than Press I think it's this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/763">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► idea that you want to present everything as a neck-and-neck battle right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/766">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► and so Apple payers threatened by MCX because it's going to be back by Walmart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/774">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► and whoever else and they have no huge huge footprint in retail but they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/778">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► skip over the most obvious aspects of what has made apple pie a successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/785">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► which is exactly what Tim Cook said on stage when he introduced it which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/792">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► know it's it's one of my biggest recurring mantras about Apple is don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/800">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► underestimate how often they're not giving you any spin any bullshit they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/804">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► just telling you flat out in plain language exactly why they did what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/809">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► did and without will be a simple explanation was we think everybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/813">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► who's tried this today it has failed because they haven't concentrated on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► user experience and made that their priority that's what we've done we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/821">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► made it as easy as possible to use as quick to use and as privacy protecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/826">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► as we can all in the name of the user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/832">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► you know and if that's all they did was they who you know what retailer would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/837">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► hook up the equipment but the other things they did secondary to the user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/842">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► focus is is the established infrastructure for NFC payments and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/846">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► the bank's happy by taking a very minimal cut and by promising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/852">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► significantly increased security which gets the banks on board because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/857">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► banks can do the math and I really do think it works out which is that Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/863">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► little 0.15% cut of the transactions is less than the cost of fraud per person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/867">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► transaction that the banks have been used by I think that's absolutely true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/875">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► especially when you look at it and the privacy and security to when you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/879">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► all the data breaches at the targets or the Home Depot's but I think you nailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/882">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► it when he said it is aligned with my interest I've gone to Apple pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/885">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► terminals you know even the demo one set up and out the door at the event and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/889">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► they read my Canadian NFC credit card that technology is not going to benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/892">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► Apple's gonna benefit everybody who uses any sort of NFC transaction and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/896">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► compare that to current currency or whatever it's called and that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/901">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► to give the retailer your bank account you have to have a QR code to scan the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/904">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► QR code and it is such a horrible experience and it's not done to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/908">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► benefit of the consumer is done to try to increase the amount of to save money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/912">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► on transactions they pay the credit card companies nevermind how long he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/916">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► how much money is going to cost them in terms of cashiers fees for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► incredibly complicated error prone to estimate their establishing right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/922">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► can't prove yet that Tim Cook's explanation for you know why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/926">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► thought Apple pay would be successful and why it seems to be successful today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/931">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► aren't true and that cut you know that our user focused approach is is the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/935">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► to get it done and who knows maybe something like currency will also become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/941">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► popular I don't I don't know I have my doubts about currency in particular but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/946">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► him you know it could be that something that's a lot more retailer friendly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/951">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► opposed to consumer-friendly could work but the evidence to date suggests you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/956">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► know that would Apple said was exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/960">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► its it also what benefits the retailer is is interesting because he me getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/963">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► through the checkout line really quickly benefits the retailer and I i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/970">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► it's my understanding that a lot of the a signed multi-year agreements with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/973">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► currency in with MCX when they started which was a silly thing to do but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/976">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► did it but I believe a lot of those expire pretty early on this year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/980">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► will be interesting for not this year but in 2015 and will be interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/983">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► see how many of those adoptable pay as soon as they are contractually allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/986">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► to any other thing I could think about as a technical limitation is the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/989">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► that there's one thing that apple pays that know their payment system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/997">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► would work on the iPhone at least I mean obviously like what Google could enable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► an Android or Microsoft Windows Phone is different but at least if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► iPhone using customers the one thing they have that nobody else can do is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► way that it works at the system level rather than the applicable and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1015">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► can't emphasize enough for anybody out there who hasn't used Apple because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► don't have a 500 X or because you don't shop at one of the places that supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► it yet but I just can't emphasize enough how how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► instead of like feeling like a one-step process it almost feels like 80 step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► process because you don't have to unlock your phone you just take the phone even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► if it's not on and just get it within an inch of the terminal put your press your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► thumb on the on the reader and it's it's nobody else can do that like if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► current see app on the iPhone you would have to unlock your phone open the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► and go from there which is you know it doesn't sound like a lot but compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► Apple paid is a lot I get upset I most places here I can just tap my card and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► go and when it doesn't work if you like an animal having to ask you put it in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► put in a pin code or swiping Swiper sign something and you know every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► but it reminds me of something else in a bit of attention but I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► it's the same thing it's it's all those backed out by making the g8 chipset with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► the 8x chipset in that you take the cameras for instance I take out my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► iPhone I can just take a picture and Diana ten times its gonna be a perfect a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► really good everyday picture and that's because Apple makes their own image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► signal processor when you look at Microsoft buys off the shelf chips they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► have to put really big glass on the front collect as much light as they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► because they're using customer using off the shelf chips there's no advantage to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► them their Google has no idea what hardware or what software running on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► their phones they try to suck up to the server and do all the auto awesome stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► but Apple is just making sure that you have a good camera on it they'll process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► in almost any shot you take will be useful for a normal person and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► the same thing you can't get that advantage unless you own the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► stock the way that they do and now they're moving out in two payments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► moving them into other areas with the iPhone yeah now i cant underestimated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► the advantage there and I think it only gets written off by these amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► analysts what an advantage Apple has by controlling that level of of the stack I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► used to think they were in a saying I have I have a friend who was a sell-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► analyst and explain it to me and is that the press reports analysts as though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► they're giving comments to readers and their comments are not meant for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► readers are meant to manipulate the markets and what they say is very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► to do with what they believe it entirely they probably told their own client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► something different two days ago for three days ago and now they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► produce results for them so it's so undependable I don't know why it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► reported right like an analyst who comes out with a report that seems to be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► pessimistic about apple pays long-term prospects might in fact honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► privately in terms of where he's putting money in advising his clients put money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► being very bullish on the future of Apple is like that video with crane from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► a couple years ago restate you want to make money you spend a rumor saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► iPhone going to be too late to call up the news networks you told us going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► be too late then all the sudden now pulls down and you should have all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► shares I think that happens a lot what was that guys name Jim Cramer Cramer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► that's it it's baffling but then again this keeps getting reported as though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► it's factual accounting of what Apple's doing what else in the first half of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► year I think there was essentially any ancillaries was in the early on in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► year to think so and when she's definitely February March yeah that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► complete turnaround from John Browett previous year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► yeah I think that's super interesting because Apple is really doing well in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► Apple stores but some people some people say that it's the steel experience they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► haven't evolved it even though it's working it's hugely successful but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► gave her not only Apple retail but Apple online as well which used to operate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► almost a separate businesses and it's similar to giving Federici control over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► both the West End and iOS and that those those sort of artificial walls are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► falling down and providing better service for everybody involved so ansel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► aren't hiring was announced a year ago in October 2013 but she did not start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1255">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► until I believe February or March of 2014 I've said this before but it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► obvious but it's so clear to me that the reason why why they hired her and why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► she would take the job is because of the watch yes she was CEO Barbara a huge dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► people don't understand why should become a senior vice president at Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► even though the senior vice president of retail and online as well as a huge job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► it's it's like being a CEO of another company but it's still I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► Apple AAPL dangled in front of me that was a challenge people that want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► and it does seem it seems you know it's not like we haven't really seen the Arts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► effect on anything in retail yet but I don't think there's anybody who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► yeah you know I think that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► half of it i think is that changes like that take a lot of time because I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1314">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► a lot of time but a lot of time compared to our industry right because you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► do it digitally you can't just you know have a new store and you know like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► do with the online store pickup sticky note for 15 minutes and then when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► come back at an all new store you know this brick and mortar stuff takes visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► you know actual time and you know to take a store down and put it back up his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► time when the united making sales you know so I can San Francisco I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► if the new stores open it but they're not putting the new story on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► spot as the old story they're putting it on the other corner around was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► that part Union Square yet you know and you can't do that everywhere where Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► has a retail store you know most of the ones that are in in shopping malls you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► could I guess get another spot in the mall but who knows if there's one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► know it all depends on availability that outside the control tower and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► carrier company is going to put a little kiosk outrun what stores close behind it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► yeah i i think i think as the water supply into the stores and as other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► products are coming online for next year we're going to see the store is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► transform 2010 fashion is the right word to the Apple is doing something really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► interesting where technology is meeting fashion it's going to be an Apple store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► that that has to be different than it was in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► yeah lemme see anything else I don't really see it was announced earlier on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► in the year ahead ray on the stage really easy so must have been made 24 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► helpful to acquire music sheet music and Beats Electronics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► I don't know that that major news but because it's not a huge it's a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► bigger transaction then Apple has made famous leanna is the biggest acquisition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► since they acquired next which of course you know is that you know turned into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► like the backbone of the country of the company but you know a 500 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► dollar acquisition in 1997 was was seriously about the company acquisition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► whereas a you know three billion or whatever cost acquisition to get beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► absolutely a 300 billion three billion dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► you know i mean you don't want to make a three billion dollar acquisition that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► doesn't turn out well but it certainly isn't going to have any meaningful if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► turned out to be a complete bust it's not gonna hurt the company I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► morning to see the acquisition was just the reactions to it from it was almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► everyone went through the the five stages of grief with denial and anger we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► just couldn't believe it and it turns out that it does make some sense there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► are no selling Headphones Outlet Stores makes a lot of sense and sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► synergy between iTunes radio and beach music whatever it ends up being labeled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► yeah and I think I don't know I still don't think overall it makes tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► sense I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop on it but it's in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► sense it does where it's the only other iconic had fun company I can think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► and it has nothing to do with you know Marco Arment style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► quality analysis but rather you're out on the sidewalk and you see somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► walking why they're listening to their device and you know those white earbuds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► Apple's been making ever since 2001 are truly iconic I mean they even had for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► an ad campaign that was kind of based on that right with the silhouette dancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► silhouettes who you know have white earbuds and a white why you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► draped around her body they own that right not that other companies had you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► know that they have a trademark on it and nobody can make white earbuds but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► white earbuds people see them they think that somebody listening to an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► device and beats is the only other company I can think of that has that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► sort of recognition they have that the other cachet that the iPod commercials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► used to have ten years ago but there's also an element to any Q's organization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► is just so big is going to be a limited some point to what he can do and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► doing a play now as well he does the App Store in the iTunes Store any news on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► the contract negotiations and if you could have Jimmy Iovine in there doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► so at least some of that it takes more stuff off any Q's desk something I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► heard and that you know I don't think this is surprising that's probably what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► everybody was guessing anyway but what I have heard recently was that is placed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► inside Apple the beach acquisition is viewed as an Eddie then that everyday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► everyday Reed started it and he pushed for it and he drove it and not the Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► Cook wasn't engaged and I'm sure that at the negotiation level he was deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► engaged I mean I don't think you know don't worry about the details sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► see so not to diminish what Tim Cook's role in the negotiations might have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► but in terms of advocating it in and you know pushing for it was almost entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► in any cute thing we didn't see anything about iTunes this year we didn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► continuity for iTunes for example we didn't see a new iTunes music service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► iTunes radio still hasn't gone past the USA and Australia I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► iTunes is an aging platform is still based on web objects to stop based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► their original software used to manage the other music store and all of that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► some point you know it's like a John Siracusa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► where a thousand years from now this is gonna have to be fixed so what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► point between now and then that it actually gets fixed and I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► pete has better software a better solution but it could also be a catalyst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► Apple finally fixing a lot of the infrastructure things that they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► do with the iTunes Store yeah I think you know above and beyond whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► based on WebLogic behind the script scenes and and all of that I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► ever more clear that it based on a model that just isn't relevant anymore which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► is here's a song you want and you give a retailer money for it and now you own a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1675">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► copy of it that's it's just not that's just that's done I mean I'm not done not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► done in the sense of they're not selling any songs anymore but that I can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► any way that that ever comes back yes it's it in permanent decline it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► stand-alone iPods are you know it's you know still a decent business but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► never going to increase quarter of reporters going to permanent decline and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► just like the iPod has been replaced by the iPhone and some cases the iPad Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► in a larger iPhones makes sense for whatever iTunes was able to get in early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► enough to have whatever iTunes will end up being right and it's the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► that it you know i Pods sales decreasing doesn't mean that people are spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► less time with gadgets that play music in the same way music sales declining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► doesn't mean people are spending less time listening to music if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► they're probably spending more you know I would be surprised if you did a study [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► found that the people listen to more music today released time spent less in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► the music than ever before it's just that the model is no longer buying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► selling yeah it's not it's not to buy it on the radio people can get pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► what they want when they want that opens them up to just consuming it almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► so I don't know I'm still not sure what to make of that if is the beach thing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► exception to the rule just because is it combines two things that Apple wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► continue being a leader at witches music listening hardware and digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► distribution of legal music is it just the beats is like a rare perfect storm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► you know acquisition or is it the sign of things to come that Apple is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► loosen up and become you know company that does mid-level and two high-level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1795">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► acquisitions with some frequency I think again to your point about Apple to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► what they really feel I think when Tim Cook says and I religiously opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► big acquisitions I think he's absolutely sincere about that they'll do them when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► they make sense but it's got to be something like beachwear gives them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► hardware product they can sell the compliments and other hardware product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► or service they can roll out the comments and existing service has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► executives that might be able to service its executives and a culture that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► integrate into Apple and help them do the things that they want to do and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► doesn't really has me I'm still curious about it but it doesn't make me worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► about it the way that there's any number of other possible three billion dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► acquisitions that Apple could have made that would raise my spidey sense you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► know in a way that doesn't because the biggest thing is that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► fundamentally change any of the areas of focus in Apple's attention doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► him a conglomerate right which is exactly what you know to me is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► canary check in the coal mine is is Apple losing focus on becoming more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► conglomerate which I you know we don't know I mean I don't say that I don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► that Apple becoming a multi focused conglomerate would be bad we just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► no idea and there's no history for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► as a you know whatever their revenue is you know fifty to a hundred billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► corporations i mean you know they're in uncharted territory period you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► they're the most valuable company not just intact but anywhere but it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► a so it would be you know they're making seemingly unfocused acquisition and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► wouldn't make me sure that they were on the wrong track but it would make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► strongly suspected a runner on track and you wonder how the analyst with treated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► because it wouldn't be expected behavior Google can compete with everybody they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► can compete with Amazon without pool with Microsoft that any tech company in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1916">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► the world and all the same time and that's fine and interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► wonderful but you prolly your house all the way across the valley that well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► Google can compete with itself in a box vs Android tablets is a perfect example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► and I don't even say the data mistake I think it kind of fits with Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► internal culture whereas if Apple had seemingly confusing overlap between low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► and MacBooks and iPads I I would find that worries agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► Apple had 399 MacBook and at what time you would be very worrisome I still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► in the back of my head this idea that Google's Android because they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► panicked about mobile and then saw webOS and smack their head and thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► was a way more Google product and buying Android but then they were all in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► Android announced they're slowly gonna get a way to get Chrome OS to a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► where that can be their version of webOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► that's an interesting that's an interesting argument to cause I ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► hiring attachment highest suerte Italy who was the lead designer behind webOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► yet and they're slowly giving Center tight control over the stack and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► the web dice and we always seem like an odd product from Lucas it's a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► company and that was very native software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► and I really do think that that it took a long time for Google our friend right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► I should say to not get not at the low end but at the sort of mid to high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► to get any sort of foothold is that they were in such a deep hole design wise you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► know compared to the iPhone that any you know even people who were inclined not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► to buy Apple stuff people who have never bought Apple stuff and sort of want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► you know it's a natural thing you know people who in sticking with the PC for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► years and sort of having an apple is for other people sort of mindset about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► company you know in 2011 even through 2012 you go into a store and compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► the Android phones to iPhone and it's you know you don't have to be a design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► critic you just see that there is a serious difference in finishing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► software it was a very different priority Apple famously wanted to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► the animation just absolutely nailed even in the first generation iPhone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► they didn't didn't need to have every single feature crammed in there where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► Android was it wasn't designed to be a phone for everybody was designed to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► phone that would protect Google's share of of the web because they rightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► believe web was moving mobile and their priority wasn't that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► interactivity they wanted to get you know Android and they made it work but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► remember even last year at CES I was sitting there with the Nexus 45 trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► to use Gmail and just cursing out loud and Brian Klug from formerly of an Antec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► came over and quickly put it in developer mode and the screen went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► bright red and he said yes because they are redrawn every cell for five times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► and hope that it would stick and it is the end their graphics their own graphic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► designers couldn't get their own gmail engineers to properly code all of it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► think that's why they've really lock things down now with material design and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► and all the new things but it took them for five years to fix the massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► architectural problems that were causing more interaction right in the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2118">TS</a>]
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00:47:41 ◼ ► white kit SDK shows for the first round of third-party apps pretty much works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► the same way you don't get to run any code there's no part of watch this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► initial watch kit where Europe Europe runs code on the watch it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► projected display of what your phone app for iPhone app is showing it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2876">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► watch just reports back what you have done and I would like that everywhere I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► like the idea of car play I bought the Toyota car before they had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► information at all and my only option is to buy a new car that won anything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► with car plate when every time I upgrade iOS four upgrade my phone I get a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► experience I'd like that I'm a camera like camera places that make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► interface is replaced with iOS I don't have any plans at home I wanna have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► running iOS anytime there's the screen I would eventually be able to just put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► doing that with a camera canon and you know like a serious serious camera would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► be fascinating I mean there is a move afoot in in the camera world built in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► wifi but it's i don't i don't have a camera that you know my my Fuji x100s is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► a year off by 10 brand new X 100 T which just came out a few weeks ago and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► linked to a review of it a couple days ago now has wifi but its clunky like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► only way to get it to work I haven't seen it but it's a you have to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► Fuji app from the App Store and include open the Fuji app on your phone and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► you can do something between your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► and camera whereas having it be like our play man it would be fantastic and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► great for Apple because they're never going to get into it never is a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► time but not gonna get into making appliance it's not gonna become a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► manufacturing conglomerate like Samsung and not gonna lie since iOS the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► new Android is easily able to put on any device but just projecting the interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► means they can still control it they in essence just take it over the customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► will have a great experience and they don't have to relinquish control that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► yeah it almost to me takes cameras back to where they were pre digital right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► where you when you load it thirty five-millimeter film camera the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► things you the camera did was let you take pictures right you would like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► review finder and see and the camera would have things like a late so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► know in the latter years yeah obviously nearly as yet to set all that stuff me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► only by the you know by the latter years at the tail end of the film world you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► know it would do the exposure if you set things to auto it would you know said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► the apertures set the exposure time and then but it was all just about letting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► you take the next photo then you push the button in the photo be taken it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► would be stored on the film and that was it right I would like a digital camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► do whatever you can to help me get a perfect exposure and focus you know set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► the focus distance and recommended a picture can be recommended exposure time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► or let me it said any of those variables manually if I choose to and then when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► hit click it it just or the photo and end let me do everything else over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► wireless connection to my iPhone I would love that for a couple reasons one if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► you don't have an iPhone you would just get whatever the clinic's car place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► system is you know whatever the standard software is on the phone but if you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► have it you get a better experience now becomes the same reason you want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► car play now you do stuff all works better if you happen to have an iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► yeah that would be great but I do totally think that you know the BBC 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► heralded that sort of future I think so too I think we also see for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► continuity is going to work on the watch because it's going to be things on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► watch the watch to me is to total convenience plates for all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► thousands of tiny interaction you have with your phone every day that are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► there I don't take a lot of time but are super important you still have to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► your bag or purse or go to your pocket and I can sort of shift those to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► watch but if something ends up being more important than I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► being able to send that right back to my phone and continued on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► think is great but was saying I still have to unlock the phone go find the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► go the same place where I was scrolling through a try to find it but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► continuity I'm I can be looking at something press a button that exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► thing is just there waiting for me again I think that's going to be much much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► more interesting when I watch him play yeah I do think a lot of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► are sort of breaking it goes back to what I said earlier about Apple pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► where it's from a user's perspective it's outside the app centric world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► using the phone itself it's it's much more about the real physical world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► your phone is just within the Bluetooth and or WiFi you know wireless range of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► whatever terminal you're dealing with whether the terminal is your watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► whether it's your dashboard in your car and you just tap on the watch and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► get started you know I have to wake up your phone you don't and you definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► don't have to find any particular app like a Fuji app to get to get this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► work you just on your camera and hit a button on your camera and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► phone interface just wakes up and starts you know can read those photos that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► read on the phone the phone becomes like the star destroyer in the washington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► times the shuttle craft museum between the objects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► it's pretty good I like that what else from WWDC I guess yosemite we could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► you know and in the summer there wasn't really any news per se it was just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► know basis of iOS and not a bad way that is rolling 24 gonna talk 2014 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► hindsight you have to talk to so many yeah I did was get an article a macro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► speculating what yosemite would end up looking like and I think he was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► really close its like Apple didn't just clone iOS Evans was a long running joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► they sort of took the cues from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► the translucency in and the other effects and they made something that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► very mad and they kept the shadows for example yeah our example when David were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► noodling ideas for Vesper Mac before we saw yosemite and we thought well what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► they do totally just go on and Iowa 7 look and feel and we've been waiting we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► could come up with was the iCloud web apps which are you know you use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► with a mouse pointer and you know I think typically I don't think they run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► on an iPad so mean you're you're using it on a Mac and they have some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► like dialog boxes that you know you know how would you do it I was 7 dialog box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► with the mouse pointer but overall boy we look at them when I hope that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► it had to be enough because he did that back to the Mac event in the UD change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► the names of the apps in the they brought over the same look and feel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► they really made an effort to get all the people who had iOS devices not meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► them at the same to make them comfortable to make an easy sort of halo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► effect transition when you look at yosemite new look at continuity is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► about adding value again if you have an iPhone or iPad you'll have a much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► experience with a Mac yeah absolutely I do think two shows in part of it is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► know our perspective where we get to go to these press events and talk to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► of the people at Apple I Can Tho Product Marketing Group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► and there's a palpable sentiment you could do some things that they did just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► never come up to me nobody really spent a long time talking about we don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► call anymore but like the iWorks apps I like Pages Numbers and Keynote they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► you know there's hasn't been a lot of enthusiasm about those apps in recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► years and my senators nunn I'm just saying that it's you know I I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► shows in the real world and as you know in this current status and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► shows in the enthusiasm when you talk to people at Apple privately but whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► like the Mac overall in Yosemite overall there were people there's people at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► Apple who just still love the Mac as a whole it is not like the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► forgotten first child you know brushed aside in favor of the beloved you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► iOS you know I wonder if that has anything to do with the Mac like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► Yosemite being very firmly in Frederick Keys or but things like I work in iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► all being projects that are run by in queues or secondary software development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► system I do wonder about that and I don't know if it's because it's anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► 22 / Getty cue but almost he's got so much on there how could it get any more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► of his attention you know how much he's got on his plate and you don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► federal the one guy who's in charge of software engineering is in charge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► those bits of suffering Jan but as a whole I i you know this year I i've I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► think that the people have spoken to an Apple were more excited about Yosemite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► and what's new on the Mac then I O Si and you know a lot of it is hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► separate because so much of what's new about both Iowa State in Yosemite is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3416">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► continuity stuff which ties them together and there is no one without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► that was one of the most impressive things to me because he famously iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► OS 10 used to be run separately and there was a big rework but not only that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► it's it's it's filtered down so instead of having someone in charge of Yosemite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► and someone in charge of iOS the person who was in charge of extensibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► weather at least the aging product manager program manager was in charge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► extensibility for iOS and OS 10 was in charge of continuity for iOS and iOS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► and even when it would have been easier to do them separately or do them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► different ways they made sure that they were done in the same way as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► developers had just one way to target them on both systems and that might be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► subtle change for think that's a really profound change based on how Apple used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► to be run yeah and you know it's a recurring theme you know since he left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► the company but you know with forestall and again i overall I'm a big fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► forced on I think you know force Scott Forstall is a huge reason that I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3473">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► good as it was i think is a huge reason that the App Store exists and that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► as popular as it is problems aside we can get into that because there's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► lot of recent problems with the App Store but on the whole you know it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► know success and you know at a time when in 2007 when the first iPhone came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► and there wasn't any third party software at all and there are questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► about whether the river would be an even when it was announced 12 house-to-house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► stricter gonna keep this how much is it gonna be a handful of apps that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► that and how much is it going to be you know they can allow tens of thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► hundreds of thousands of apps I think all of that is thanks to forestall or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► least by these partly thanks to forestall but on the other hand I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► think continuity happens all in one fell swoop in 2014 and forestall is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► running iOS has his own fiefdom is the way he ran it was secretly even when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► you know you know 20th 2012 I guess when he got pushed out you know I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► was a phenomenal partner for Steve Jobs when you hear stories about when he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/3553">TS</a>]
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01:11:10 ◼ ► a hacked versions of San Francisco that had metadata stat that make it look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► they tell the system it's the system fun and if you put them in a guy I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► recommend anybody try this because it's working with your system you're on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► own but more like what you do is you put these hackers and also its copyright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► violation in a direct violation of the terms of the SDK download that denial I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► did it all with the San Francisco fun and expressly not allowed to use it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► anything other than developing lockouts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► but what you could do is go to find this project on github download these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► versions of the funds which are different from Apple's version is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► some kind of metadata that said that tells the system hey this is the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► fun you put him in / library / library funds / library / funds and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4312">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► put him in your user fun fun not you know users your name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► library fines as the system won't look there for system the system looks first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► in / system library funds and that you know Helvetica system fun is still there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► you're not replacing it not deleting it or not renaming and moving it but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► the system look and / library funds and find another system font Arial use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► one incident she just put these files their log out log back in and Yosemite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► you know will draw as with the system fun it'll use it San Francisco so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► tried it to see what it was like and it's it just doesn't work I get it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► that it doesn't work like it's broken and it you know it's you know technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► failure just statically it's just kinda right which is interesting as I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► think I'd like of economic as much as I did but then after the Apple TV update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► which came much after you let me see announcing Helvetica Apple TV that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► much more every time I see it I get a little reaction to it and it feels it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► somehow crazy to me how Apple has made it a fight that is available to everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► feel like they own it yeah I did it just when they use it it's it's such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► established fun it's a classic need to feel some modern in the way they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► using it but I don't think I at San Francisco to me it's it's completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► designed I think for the watch and it's meant to be used to watch like sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► which are physically very very small like the biggest you ever gonna see text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► on your Apple watch is pretty small size it's it's what I've been constantly i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► used some previous shows with the vibrancy and you know some people turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► it off it I've even gotten used to that used to seeing areas of red or black or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► or things and it just i i don't buy the argument that it brings a desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► through but it does sort of of make the whole system see more alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► yeah I'm but I was no doubt that like Syracuse's mentioned several times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► there's no doubt that that's going to get toned down next year and the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► after you know that they start out with taking an idea to the maximum level and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► then over the years dial it back to where it should be but there they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► know Apple is it as a company tend to err on the side of taking an idea too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► far then take not taking it far enough and it's also their very first giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► company they have a lot of respect for the singular designer vision designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► just haven't had a lot of ideas in those ideas not all of them made it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► but a lot of them did in a lot of companies it would have fallen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► designed by committee very quickly so I think overall you somebody is been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► pretty pretty strong success yeah I agree completely and for all the bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► that I was a tad and you know it so many people I think I i think is somebody has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► been pretty stable and and you know deserves applause right from the get-go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► 44 being pretty trouble-free if you were an early adopter we had a couple wifi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► patch and WiFi and Bluetooth seem to be something that just affects some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► percentage of people every time there's some security things even today they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► passed it was yesterday they're they're patching security now face whom he ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► done before it's it's really a new agent in the delivery of Mac software yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► today as we record recording on December 23rd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► and I might have rolled out I think it rolled out last night time but within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► the twenty-four hours it we're recording as as we speak there was a bug fix that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► Apple rolled out there for the first time ever they pushed to at least one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► senator had enough Mavericks got the push but if you're running is somebody I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► got the notification gonna log in this morning it too said a security update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► yeah and that's it it's like you know and I you know it's a lot of pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► for them because if they ever pushed one of those that did break things it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► going to be you know quite a scandal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► they're paying close attention to that stuff now but it's what we complain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► they weren't being fast enough security updates and western point they just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► pick up the pace yeah and I did you know that the thanks for that the applause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► for that is never as loud as the criticism beforehand so now it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► matter getting faster I can't help but think that with the Bluetooth and WiFi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► that it must must just be that the matrix of how many different wi-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► chipset there are in all the supported max that run yosemite multiplied by all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► the various chipset in the wifi routers in the real world is just it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► you know Thomas through most likely that it works at all because it just happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► over and over and over again I just run all Apple stuff and I've never had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4616">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► wife who Bluetooth problem but I imagine you'd like you say we have every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► vendor in there every single variant you gonna you gonna hit whatever bugs are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► yeah I have Apple router downstairs and get the latest whatever extreme I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► know what they call it anymore but the one that's tall and have for years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► I've never had been hit with those problems either because I'm surely you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► know every single standard Apple wi-fi chipset in a Mac does get tested against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► and I think that I'm max early I mean you see bugs without a with iOS and WiFi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► too but I do think it seems to hit the Mac morning things because the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► hardware is not as unified as as hardware I think I player to the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► iPad we didn't see a bunch of people complaining about wi-fi it seems it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► launched yeah I get the feeling that like supporting why fayed the driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► level is you know sort of like supporting IMAP you're writing a mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► client which it in every single IMAP server has like a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► interpretation of the IMAPS back at some level there's no way to just write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► generic IMAP client every IMAP client it gained any popularity because it hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► you know it's actually useful effectively as you know you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► server by server list of exceptions and stuff like that which was the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► complaint about male and maverick's specially was Gmail's eccentric tees up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► late word IMAP implementation in now at yosemite don't hear that very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► now you don't think it's I think they've cleaned up pretty well where we at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► calendar year I think we're heading towards the iPhone 66 + event yeah which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► was also the debut of the wider bigger and bigger and then small and Apple pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► ya I in the demo area they had the iPhones laid out the head the iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4735">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► Apple watch laid out and then they had a whole area where you could go and see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► paper within the app and a simulated check out station and I do think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► a good example of how how difficult this you know and broad broke strokes how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► difficult apple and you know anybody else in the industry but how it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► month to month year-to-year gain its decade-long game because even with Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► pay you know it's intertwined with the iPhones 6 because it's the iPhones 66 + [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► the only phones at work without pay at least it retail terminals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► and you know you had to have touched I D first so that was the year that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► you had to have it and it had to work really well so that starts a year ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► now this year you've got the two new phones that have NFC built-in and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4795">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► rollout in the retail stores of the terminals you know that accepted but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► you're still talking about service that only works two months and for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► who've bought a brand new top of the line iPhone within the last two months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► right like the real the real Apple play is 23 years ago when eighty-five percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► of active iPhone users are using something I from six are doing it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► shows the patients that Apple has been something that shows how for example NFC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► lot of their competitors was just a chipset they would just throw it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► there they really care you did with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► different manufacturers would do different things where Apple there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► such thing as a chipset it's a feature set and the experiment with NFC a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► prototype of the NFC for years they just never ship that they didn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► not the curiosity and might be a benefit but actually needed it as a core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► technology in the phone and when they did they put in a CNN they shipped it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► and it took until iPhone 6 for that to happen but like you said they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4856">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► have passbook they had to have such idea that have all these things in place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► then when it made sense as a product to get shipped yeah I i've heard about NFC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► for iPhone I think as far back as 2009 which was the year that the 3G S came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► out and that when that was heard that we would have it wouldn't been right before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► I would have been like seven or eight months before that it was a maybe for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► the next iPhone clearly you know obviously did not happen and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► think ultimately you know why not and then again it was a recurring thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► 2009 maybe 2010 definitely maybe Apple is very very interested in NYC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► so that would've been the iPhone four you know it wasn't there and I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► was always you know is that there was no story behind it right there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► whatever our house is actually gonna be useful to people in the real world they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► would put politics almost any anything that you can find a blog post about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► makes even the slightest logical sense Apple will put a taped it like when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► say max make no sense for multitouch is not because they're just daydreaming or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► saying if the sake of saying it is because they built it they spent a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► of time trying it decided it was an experience they want to ship and its in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► one day maybe it will be in with NFC it was in later stage prototypes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► different phones and they're trying things in there like you said no story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► so it didn't ship and then as soon as they had a really compelling story which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► was out that's never fun we have no so tying it in you know the iPhone 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► announcement with this week's news there's another rumor that came out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► Asia some analysts that that Apple is considering a for a new four-inch iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:46 ◼ ► MacRumors had it I think the name the guy came up with it was totally stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4966">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► he called it the iPhone's success many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► a 6-2 I think the name would be the clearly a be the iPhone succeed right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► think it almost certainly would be the iPhone 6 see and if not see then there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► may be kinda be success minus success and success plus use them to try that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► math knowledge into the ground and they'd actually spell it out like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/4994">TS</a>]
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01:35:17 ◼ ► the state of the art in the graphics industry was a graphics card that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► push that many pixels and a connector that could carry them whereas Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► started turning things like that on its head and it doesn't matter if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► industry can't do it yet the state of the art industry they just made their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► own and made it work and it's not available to anybody else that's like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► do things that other people can't do we'll go back to your only apple pie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► yeah I think it's you know probably the best piece I wrote this year I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► it's the only one that really do or at least the one that has the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► dangerous even lo these many months later I think it's it's if anything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5756">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► underplayed yeah i think is true and I think when we like next year we already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► mentioned maybe there's a bigger iPod but maybe there's software and services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► that go along with that in having two gigs and having an Arctic or GPU makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► lot more sense you next year that makes this year but it allows people who buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► the brand new iPad here this year to not feel left behind when the newer devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► are newer software ships I and i still can I keep thinking about 64 bit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► mobile and you know nobody else has it I mean there's some chips that are passed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► capable of it a friend right but it certainly is far from mainstream the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► Nexus 9 I think ship with it just because they decided they had to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► they couldn't wait any longer to get 64 bit of the door but it's not in Tucson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► army Intel right at the nexus and i know i think is X 84 I think I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► called combat a double child I don't know either way though it certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► isn't like a mainstream thing but to me it's it's it's 64 bit came out of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► complain all this north four gigabytes of memory Apple's just wasting it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► turns out that the arm VA instruction set was so much better and the security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► that they could use enabled all the touch I D stuff there was just so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► other things about building that chipset that 64 bit was almost a bonus for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► the same way three quarters on the iPhone 6 is almost a bonus in eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► quarters on the eye on the iPad here to there doing it because they can is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► reason not to so why should we do it right it just goes hand in hand with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► new instruction set which is really whether performance went come from not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► the Matt not any sort of magical going from 32 to 64 on any hypothetical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► platform magically make things better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► it wasn't like that it was a very very practical you no harm there are new ARM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► instruction set is way better it gets rid of all sorts of legacy craft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► you know that dates back to the early days of armed when it was powering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► things like the new Palm Pilot and stuff like that is just so many benefits right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► and everything that the computer engineers have learned since then about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► how to make efficient you know instruction set for computers and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► know and what what is it that a modern compiler wants to see in an instruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► set to to generate efficient code and it was you know rewritten from scratch with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► all this craft gone and all sorts of new stuff to help modern compilers you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5894">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► in there and here we are over here later instead Apple still the only mainstream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► you know device that has and we have swift and we have medals when you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► those technologies all together eventually the performs a good way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► beyond which is the hardware delivers yeah and I think that those two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► you know Swift is obviously knew for 2014 medal is new for 2014 and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► they get to the heart of what what what is Apple going to be like as a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► company with a with big weapons to swing around and you know obviously and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► guess said that the watch the the canary in the coal fine I'm looking for is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► hubris you know and obviously when a company gets bigger it tries to do more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► on its own I mean Microsoft famously you know it does everything on its own you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► know their own you know they're the only company that he's back to enter just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► little details like that they use backslashes and said the slashes between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► directory paths to you know having had their own you know developer tool chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► and their own programming language you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► you know but they did more than that I feel like when Microsoft was at its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► height in a nineties you know is the fact that they expanded into things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► co-ownership of slate.com the founding of MSNBC you know they wanted on a cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► news network right why would Microsoft want to get involved in cable news you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► know but I feel like Apple as they try to do more and more on her own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► it's only in the name of enabling features that would be better for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/5997">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► products they're already making greatly enterprise they decide to create an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► enterprise company or by another bus company partnered with IBM to let them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► do what they did well right now that's a great it's a great example of that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► didn't create this new enterprise division within Apple which is outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► their expertise and then and risks losing their focus you know if Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► wants us to know wants to make a big bat and and do this he doesn't have to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► anywhere near as much attention on it as you know has he wouldn't this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► where they're willing to say you know what we just want our devices to be used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► in the enterprise will let IBM handle how to make the sales and how to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► these you know these absurd amount for the market is a perfect example a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► better than buying a city or something that is going on the imaginary people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► always went up to my right and swift you know is an example where they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► they didn't create a new programming language to change computer science it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► not you know if anything that the critiques from people who are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► programming language critics is that it's sort of a boring language there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► nothing outlandish about it there's nothing novel about it it's just nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► simple language link in an Internet not that there aren't clever things under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► you know most of the languages designed it is defined in the runtime not in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► language itself the language itself is super super minimal there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► you know artistic about that but effectively it's just what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► programming language would you write would you want to enable this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► software that Apple wants to run that's it it's just a very very practical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► language you know and what you get when you have a language that's led by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► compiler guy Chris ladder for a company that lets the compiler Kylie language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► right but it's sort of the opposite of the sort of hoity-toity academic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6117">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► language is that you know with the new programming languages that I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► when I was young and college in the nineties where it was all led it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► know the the practical utility them was completely extracted it was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► philosophical in terms of what was driving the decisions behind its a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► language designed to be used by Apple and and sooner rather than later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► yes very much so very much designed you know as Syracuse's pointed out an ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► it's we've already one thing we've got there is not going to budget we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► already got these frameworks the cocoa frameworks and interior gonna start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► all new frameworks maybe they come up with a new language but it's got these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► frameworks that are you know have these you know that are already designed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► already have these these design patterns what type of new language would be used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► that would best leverage them and that's one of the things that I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► about the way that Apple is running now they're not they don't have to restart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► everything again they can do something like a Dell OEM and an ad swift and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► these things that take them further without having to destroy or stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► repeated artificial break between what they had before it's like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► swapping the parts behind the scenes if not paying attention he may not even see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► it but it is a tremendous benefit overtime and metal likewise you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► it's it's it's the only as a sort of thing you can only do when you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► big user base Microsoft famously is done that with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► direct tax you know where my case you know it's you know sustained to this day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► the their leadership and PC gaming you know if that probably no area of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► computing where they're stronger than your PC gaming and they're able to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► here's you know here's the graphics language you're going to use and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► it and they can do that because they've got the footprint Apple couldn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► all you know ten years ago with the Mac I mean it's still not on the Mac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► they couldn't and I don't think they could have it would have really taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6237">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► off in 2008 or 2009 they really needed that massive hundreds of millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► users base and this you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► defacto position is like the leading handheld gaming market and now it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► like they're forcing it down developers throat there you know you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► use it it's not like they're doing baby said like oh next year if you don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► if your game isn't using swift it won't be in the App Store it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► developers want to use though because it's it gives them better performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► and less than hit you know a huge number of their users and it was something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► they could announce at WWDC while they were announcing that the 405 biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► game engines in the world we're all supporting it so for most developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► they couldn't get it for free cause the engine that they're already using is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► just now getting the benefits of all of that right now and it's definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► I guess that it's in in broad strokes it's the sort of thing Apple can only do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6295">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► now that they're big and the market leader in that wouldn't it just wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► possible in the old days when they were the little guy on the sides when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► Adobe and Microsoft could say no when I can support your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► you're a city yeah that's it you know perfect example right although the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► rhapsody thing was a little bit more it's funny because they were a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► bit more adamant back then we're in her initial proposal with adamant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► with Rhapsody was your going to rewrite your absent cocoa or else you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► run in this little little ghetto environment whereas you know even with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► swift like I said they're not saying you have two games left even though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► could really I mean I think they could get away with it but you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► not because I feel like there's a humility to them i mean absolutely you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:53 ◼ ► get people like you know Brent Simmons now you gotta play around in blog about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6353">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► their experiences within the benefits everybody has a built-in they don't u [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► bettas way Google does but the way they're releasing it gets a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► people a lot of time to weigh in beyond the five hundred people at Apple menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/6362">TS</a>]
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01:58:52 ◼ ► have a bit at oriole and they need to program the entire app store promotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7132">TS</a>]
01:58:56 ◼ ► for all that stuff and all they see is approved they have no idea what might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7136">TS</a>]
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01:59:16 ◼ ► in Notification Center and they're not supposed to it supposed to be a quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7156">TS</a>]
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02:06:42 ◼ ► Store but to someone who all had to do was wake up every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7602">TS</a>]
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02:07:10 ◼ ► ombudsman and then when they finally added that in 10 said ok now we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7630">TS</a>]
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02:07:58 ◼ ► ombudsman issue the embodiments to get to choose what they wrote about but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7678">TS</a>]
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02:08:14 ◼ ► hope somebody at Apple reads our sites and does something about it but before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7694">TS</a>]
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02:08:28 ◼ ► it before it hits the media and executives yet but then the Ombudsman as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7708">TS</a>]
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02:08:43 ◼ ► more complicated set of guidelines for the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7723">TS</a>]
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02:09:35 ◼ ► not seen the groundbreaking your platform making sort of future apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7775">TS</a>]
02:09:40 ◼ ► arrived on Android any faster because of that an iOS and it's easy to say maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7780">TS</a>]
02:09:44 ◼ ► Android sucks and that's why doesn't happen but it's also possible that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7784">TS</a>]
02:09:47 ◼ ► does add background task they do add extensibility and they do add the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7787">TS</a>]
02:09:51 ◼ ► features that they need to add to give developers sort of the tools that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7791">TS</a>]
02:09:54 ◼ ► need to make these sorts of apps and as possible that things like workflow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7794">TS</a>]
02:09:59 ◼ ► labor get made regardless of what app review does because you know those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7799">TS</a>]
02:10:02 ◼ ► things as as cool as they are they don't they don't come across any where near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7802">TS</a>]
02:10:07 ◼ ► well on the other hand no I do think to take a devils advocate position you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7807">TS</a>]
02:10:13 ◼ ► we do have far more far richer variety of of outside the bounds of the stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7813">TS</a>]
02:10:22 ◼ ► stock factory OS productivity software on mac then we do iOS yes the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7822">TS</a>]
02:10:28 ◼ ► is that iOS is starting with this foundation of we apple or promising you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7828">TS</a>]
02:10:34 ◼ ► that nothing you install from the App Store is going to do something like run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7834">TS</a>]
02:10:40 ◼ ► and for you know be hard to uninstall if you don't like it you know that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7840">TS</a>]
02:10:47 ◼ ► whereas the the risks you take on the Mac of allowing anything and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7847">TS</a>]
02:10:51 ◼ ► that you can download outside the App Store is that you have utilities that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7851">TS</a>]
02:10:57 ◼ ► can be hard to uninstall I try to install blackberry connect another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7857">TS</a>]
02:11:00 ◼ ► nightmare it's you know it's always gets less of a problem that used to be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7860">TS</a>]
02:11:05 ◼ ► it's always been a problem and that you might add uncertainty and if you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7865">TS</a>]
02:11:09 ◼ ► like you know like a non-technical users we know that if the fans running on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7869">TS</a>]
02:11:13 ◼ ► computer and you don't think it should be you can go to activity monitor or up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7873">TS</a>]
02:11:17 ◼ ► there to the battery menu and it'll tell you in recent versions whose which app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7877">TS</a>]
02:11:21 ◼ ► is using excessive power you know but it can be confusing to a typical user they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7881">TS</a>]
02:11:29 ◼ ► don't know to do those things and what if it's somehow that they've never heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7889">TS</a>]
02:11:32 ◼ ► of because it's you know to help her out for another habit of faceless background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7892">TS</a>]
02:11:37 ◼ ► that that doesn't doesn't even show up in their dog well then what do they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7897">TS</a>]
02:11:42 ◼ ► yeah I always has this promise of where you're never gonna have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7902">TS</a>]
02:11:46 ◼ ► those things and you know part of that promise it only happens if if everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7906">TS</a>]
02:11:51 ◼ ► goes through an App Store review process which is why to install the keyboard you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7911">TS</a>]
02:11:55 ◼ ► how to download an app and even though that Optus absolutely nothing once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7915">TS</a>]
02:11:58 ◼ ► you've downloaded it miss you deleted the keyboard goes away it's still the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7918">TS</a>]
02:12:01 ◼ ► same mechanism to deliver all the new features that they're adding an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7921">TS</a>]
02:12:05 ◼ ► interesting problem to solve I think I use P calc the widget all the time I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7925">TS</a>]
02:12:10 ◼ ► bear sightings I barely launch peacock anymore cause a widget is just enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7930">TS</a>]
02:12:14 ◼ ► almost all the time and I use drafts and they use transmission I love all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7934">TS</a>]
02:12:17 ◼ ► features and I'm happy that Apple reverse the stuff I just think that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7937">TS</a>]
02:12:21 ◼ ► think it's worth breaking down the process that happens because the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7941">TS</a>]
02:12:24 ◼ ► you understand it did drafts get everything back yes I did I wasn't aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7944">TS</a>]
02:12:29 ◼ ► that I knew that they that they had had some you know the same type of issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7949">TS</a>]
02:12:32 ◼ ► yeah that's good to know the only thing that was rejected outright was the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7952">TS</a>]
02:12:35 ◼ ► the app launcher because he doesn't believe the other things online jobs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7955">TS</a>]
02:12:39 ◼ ► the guy who tried it was a real estate you can have keyboards in which it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7959">TS</a>]
02:12:42 ◼ ► the guy basically drew his own instead of invoking the built in one and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7962">TS</a>]
02:12:45 ◼ ► still rejected yeah I think it comes down to my office arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7965">TS</a>]
02:12:49 ◼ ► other words you have to air on one side or the other and that at least with iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7969">TS</a>]
02:12:54 ◼ ► Apple's going to continue to err on the side of being a little too strict and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7974">TS</a>]
02:13:02 ◼ ► you know the side effect of that that benefited that is that abusive software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7982">TS</a>]
02:13:11 ◼ ► isn't going to is less likely to slip there oh yeah the downside to it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7991">TS</a>]
02:13:17 ◼ ► you said sometimes it's going to take some ugly airing of dirty laundry public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/7997">TS</a>]
02:13:22 ◼ ► airing of dirty laundry to get it to get it sufficiently you know looked at by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8002">TS</a>]
02:13:27 ◼ ► high enough level person and i think i dont wanna call it a problem but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8007">TS</a>]
02:13:30 ◼ ► the sign of the changes that you craig Venter hehe skews more toward geeky then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8010">TS</a>]
02:13:35 ◼ ► Scott Forstall it was hard to get airdrop on on the iPhone and now we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8015">TS</a>]
02:13:39 ◼ ► an extensibility and and continuity and App Store review hasn't changed the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8019">TS</a>]
02:13:44 ◼ ► software development has changed indeed there there still very much organization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8024">TS</a>]
02:13:48 ◼ ► they were back in the forest and there's gonna be some tension until that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8028">TS</a>]
02:13:52 ◼ ► worked out as we get keep your features were gonna the iPhone was not made for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8032">TS</a>]
02:13:56 ◼ ► geeks was made for out for mainstream people is a smartphone that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8036">TS</a>]
02:13:59 ◼ ► could use but loved it as well and now it's becoming a phone that works great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8039">TS</a>]
02:14:03 ◼ ► for this because of these features I think app app reviews gonna have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8043">TS</a>]
02:14:07 ◼ ► evolve the way software has totally agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8047">TS</a>]
02:14:11 ◼ ► alright I think that's catches up and it's our year in review could hear ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8051">TS</a>]
02:14:17 ◼ ► was excited about next year I can't wait everything from the Apple watch to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8057">TS</a>]
02:14:23 ◼ ► theoretically larger iPad 2 the new features will see with it and and iOS 29 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8063">TS</a>]
02:14:28 ◼ ► gonna be a great year I think one thing is for sure I think one thing we if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8068">TS</a>]
02:14:33 ◼ ► look back a year from now and 2015 I think the first half of 2015 is gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8073">TS</a>]
02:14:39 ◼ ► a lot more interesting than the first half of 2014 yeah it's going to be hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8079">TS</a>]
02:14:42 ◼ ► back I think the first year I wouldn't be surprised at the first year the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8082">TS</a>]
02:14:45 ◼ ► part of 2013 is very similar to the first part of 2010 and the iWatch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8085">TS</a>]
02:14:49 ◼ ► similar to the launch of the original yeah I do i cuz I you know just off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8089">TS</a>]
02:14:54 ◼ ► top of my head I expect both the bigger iPad and the watch the first have come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8094">TS</a>]
02:14:59 ◼ ► at the same event or not I don't know but you know I think they're both coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8099">TS</a>]
02:15:03 ◼ ► sort of come with them or that still in the garage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8103">TS</a>]
02:15:08 ◼ ► you know honestly no idea wouldn't be surprised that would be huge of the dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8108">TS</a>]
02:15:14 ◼ ► be almost unprecedented and just you know err on the side of getting too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8114">TS</a>]
02:15:22 ◼ ► excited but it would kind of make sense in the context of Tim Cook's previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8122">TS</a>]
02:15:27 ◼ ► you know maybe over promising of what they're gonna deliver in 2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8127">TS</a>]
02:15:33 ◼ ► that some of these things you know maybe got bumped you know you know Apple pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8133">TS</a>]
02:15:38 ◼ ► and Apple watch count as the plural new product categories but it does seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8138">TS</a>]
02:15:49 ◼ ► when he first started talking about that expected a little bit more like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8149">TS</a>]
02:15:53 ◼ ► one more thing for 2014 I think I don't feel the same thing I did but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8153">TS</a>]
02:15:56 ◼ ► AppleTV sounded like last spring in this time like this fall and it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8156">TS</a>]
02:15:59 ◼ ► next spring and it sounds like that's that's a bigger job than people thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8159">TS</a>]
02:16:04 ◼ ► yeah I definitely heard back in June and WTC that it it was maybe originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8164">TS</a>]
02:16:12 ◼ ► thought that it would come up before the end of 2014 but even back in June it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8172">TS</a>]
02:16:15 ◼ ► no way not even not even feasible for it to be a 2014 thing I'm good I'm happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8175">TS</a>]
02:16:21 ◼ ► that mean I I liked it when Apple had products but across the year find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8181">TS</a>]
02:16:24 ◼ ► everything coming in fault is quite a lot to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8184">TS</a>]
02:16:26 ◼ ► yea well and the other thing too that I think made it impossible to not even to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8186">TS</a>]
02:16:30 ◼ ► get into any details of it but it's just the simple fact that if it doesn't ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8190">TS</a>]
02:16:34 ◼ ► by October it doesn't ship that yes that November and December don't count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8194">TS</a>]
02:16:37 ◼ ► because they can do it too late for the holiday season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8197">TS</a>]
02:16:41 ◼ ► absolutely that if it can't be announced in October it doesn't get announced till [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8201">TS</a>]
02:16:44 ◼ ► 2015 and it doesn't get about 20152 probably like more like February than in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8204">TS</a>]
02:16:50 ◼ ► January and we would start to see signs are ready if any of those products were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8210">TS</a>]
02:16:53 ◼ ► January February start seeing things moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8213">TS</a>]
02:16:56 ◼ ► yeah like november december january not that Apple doesn't get work done but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8216">TS</a>]
02:17:00 ◼ ► products don't get slated for release in those pants alright 18 more people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8220">TS</a>]
02:17:06 ◼ ► see your great work at I'm more of course I'm or dot com what are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8226">TS</a>]
02:17:10 ◼ ► podcast with your pockets I have debugged with English we talked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8230">TS</a>]
02:17:14 ◼ ► developers about developing stuff and then I have vector with guy English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8234">TS</a>]
02:17:18 ◼ ► Davis kiss and tortured while we talk about the intersection of technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8238">TS</a>]
02:17:21 ◼ ► humanity and a duet with Marc Edwards in South Clifford which is designer stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8241">TS</a>]
02:17:25 ◼ ► who you think is gonna record more podcast episodes in 2015 you are Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8245">TS</a>]
02:17:30 ◼ ► snow I I it's it's neck-and-neck but I love that or maybe Mike Hurley I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8250">TS</a>]
02:17:35 ◼ ► that it's becoming it's becoming a bit of a joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8255">TS</a>]
02:17:39 ◼ ► they're all good shows your prolific I like here I like having you on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8259">TS</a>]
02:17:45 ◼ ► because I feel like your regular shows you defer to your guests and sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8265">TS</a>]
02:17:51 ◼ ► forget that you're you're even there mike Ward reneging on a pipe you are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8271">TS</a>]
02:17:56 ◼ ► differential I like having you here and letting you go off because man you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwNQr5s/8276">TS</a>]