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00:00:14 ◼   ► so I don't know how else can I don't live when the last time I've had more [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► than one person on the show probably more I was on stage wbez work out a deal [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► with you can be able yeah that's right [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► john-john abducted my my basic just though is shouldn't star wars for two [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► hours [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► movies you know what's funny before you decide to do the christmas spectacular [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► again this year [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► ship them actually have again I thought about and it's actually scrupulous and [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► it's actually circus well that's when it is here we are making up for last year [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► where it was a total sham and surprising amount of email from people who told me [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► that we must have screwed up the editing because we cut it off before Gianmarco [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► made it on lemme they were a little bit in the back of the stage no driving home [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► in there so I have you guys done John year on the incomparable semi frequently [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► frequently semi frequently have you done Star Wars on the incomparable [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► I don't let anybody shows now I we have done all of the Star Wars movies the [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► original Star Wars movies and we've done so 21 into the prequels and we did with [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► the Star Wars Holiday Special [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► see I've never seen that guy have you seen the Star Wars Holiday Special no I [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► don't especially after listening to the content don't thought I'd I feel exactly [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► the same way you do for the team their next watches yeah I can possibly avoid [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► the jasons revenge for me making him watch like hours and hours of anime [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► play video games special a couple of years ago one of the sites published a [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► like what they call now explain Ernst you know like this concept of an [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► explainer which I kind of like it's sort of like a blog post crossed with like [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► Wikipedia entry is an exercise tried to think pretending word explainer doesn't [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► exist and then try to think of another phrase or summary description of what we [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► now know as unexplained because whenever I do and I come up with something that's [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► insulting what would it be I'm not treated outside I mean I like this for [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► dummies things are never let me simplify this to the point where it seems [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► understandable but what you're actually coming away from the article with is not [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► a true understanding of the subject because really complicated let me take a [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► complicated thing and make it really simple let me like you just don't know [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► explain errors I i understand why you but some people are attracted to the [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► concept but the actual articles I've read that are described as explainer is [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► just leave me angry over you may be a good summary executive summary overview [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► like it does not much I don't know whenever I read something that's [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► described as an explainer is just like you know like it is an article in the [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► Atlantic something nobody calls it an explainer an article supposed to explain [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► things once you call it an explainer that's like code 404 not actually get [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► you the real and unreasonably angry about explainer gone well I remember I [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► appreciated with someone from fox.com on it was Benghazi or one of these things [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► where it seemed like I would have had to read 20 articles to catch up and it [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► didn't make any sense and I read their quote unquote explainer and it kind of [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► figured I figured the whole thing out because you know in the just and explain [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► their they're like this is really nothing it's really just political shit [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► but it is called it the news the Euro watching it would tell you a summary of [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► what's going on [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► and well anyway somebody wrote an explainer on the Star Wars Holiday [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► Special and had just enough screencaps where I was like holy cow it really is [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► worse than the terrible reputation would have you believe and so I knew I never [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► had to watch and not only that as I said in income people think it's not even the [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► type of thing if you care about stories that are all that you can watch and be [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► like high level does it so bad you know i mean you can't even do that it's just [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► it's just bad just not fun not interesting that you care about two [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► hours and it was shocking video camera shot at least so we're having a holiday [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► special we're talking about stars but it has nothing to do with the store ways [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► Star Wars Holiday Spectacular whatever they called it not yet at least alright [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► and also I only want to talk about the movies the whole expanded university as [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► a pilot crap as far as I'm concerned [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► cartoons as much but I don't they're different thing like yours give the [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► movies are like a good steak dinner they're gonna get beef jerky that you'd [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► buy their meat but you know I'm not really same kind of thing I have you [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► watched all of the cartoons clone wars and now the Star Wars rebels and there's [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► some there's some things to commend them to Sun star was a stuff but I don't see [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► how they could possibly fit into the story to the movies chillin in any [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► sensible way I mean you know but you know if they let a traditional sense [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► where it's like a TV show out of the movies and it's in the same universe and [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► at the same time line but there's no specific expectation that they feel are [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► behaving as I like the movie because they're not there and animated [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► television show as opposed to movies and for what they're actually pretty decent [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► wasn't the original premise for Star Wars rebels though [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► that it would be live action but there was the talk of a live-action Star Wars [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► TV series very long time ago [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► round by the time I think the prequels of either in the process of being made [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► before they were made and that seemed to fall by the wayside it just didn't it [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► didn't didn't work out for whatever reason they forget the actual situation [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► was and more recently ever heard the idea of it coming back up again I'm not [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► opposed to such a thing I think it would be cool but the Clone Wars the computer [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► anyone with kind of weird because there was another animated thing called the [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► Clone Wars there was so animated as opposed to CG and the Great Mall them [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► very different stylistic choices than the movie wait when was this round by [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► round about the time of maybe I guess episode 2 or something it was so [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► animated Disney for episode two very stylized kind of like Samurai Jack [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► Antonoff was the same guy that said it was the same game and it was great and [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► you know what it ends with it ends with the opening scene from episode to the [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► end of that are that animation art ends with the invasion of the result [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► encouragement from the bridges grievances gives his army shows up and [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► that's the did you finally get one or the CD one where you learn why General [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► Grievous is always in everything she says she'll say that the Showa shell [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► shaded so these things about how come I'm not aware of this how can that kind [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► of the right age I don't associate of mine I don't know I don't think john was [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► born yet but also that he wasn't it certainly wasn't as big as my what was [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► it called and I think well here's the thing I think you actually had to be a [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► bit of an animation urged to get into it were to hear about it that's great did [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► you know from whence the movies came but they do you think I'm gonna be able to [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► get these are night [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► I would have found the right acct Clone Wars has got to be available oh yes eg [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► is i've i've seen i i i to him I'm completely caught up [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► seen every episode of The Clone Wars saw the theatrical release which is really [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► just a two-hour episode of the TV show and just recently caught up Jonas and I [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► caught up on the I think there's only seven episodes of Star Wars we're just [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► talking to Lisa well if that's the case then I like the way that the rebels TV [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► show is doesn't feature any of the characters from the feature films yet [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► but it's very clearly in the world and its creeping up on a new hope [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► timeline so you start seeing typewriters look like Thai fighters and you know [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► kind of rebels in the empire in more or less the shapes that you would've [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► expected but it's a totally different thing it's a different cast of [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► characters doing different things within the same university and it's a there's a [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► bit of a sorry there's a bit of awareness in it [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► jenna is running around where is it as a new hope you know that there's at least [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► two believes it is no other time in hiding I mean you have a Star Wars show [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► it's a good idea to have some citizens and lightsabers oh yeah it in terms of [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► the narrative device yes for sure but I mean it kind of goes against what we [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► heard last year yeah that's what it says on his deathbed and there are no way is [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► it empire is a Return of the Jedi when he's dying might be Return of the Jedi [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► when he's dying and he says something to the effect of you know in 10 seconds [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► from now when I dot last at the Jedi you will be [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► here last edited so I there something new that I have to learn but I don't [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► know my way around the underground internet so now and get these sell any [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► QuickTime movies they're probably like 320 by 240 [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► I'll remember when that was the big size I remember when 160 120 was was the [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► regular so it's set up a compression is high fidelity that's a look great I'm [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► surprised that that wasn't like a bigger deal anyway and what I understand is [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► with the Disney purchase of Lucasfilm in the archive night I mention this with [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► West Coast a couple weeks ago that there there marlys saying with this movie [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► all those novels and should that you've been reading for twenty years that all [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► out the door we are not looking at any of that and you know that Canada anymore [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► they have to do that because they're going to make it run illogically after [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► Return of the Jedi the expanding universe is like told all those stories [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► like 20 times over let me know what happens to all the characters that we [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► love this whole other bad guys and good guys and like they just run it out [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► safely you can't put anything chronologically after July unless you [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► either do exactly what happened in the books which probably a bad idea or put [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► it way way way past where the books go or something then say okay it's the [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► distant distant its way better so I was always called expanded I think this is [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► the only possible way to make a movie with the original actors you just gotta [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► say forget about the books I read it I think there's a there's a problem with [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► fetishes and candid going to hamstring Astoria Hotel good reason just don't let [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► it rest doesn't mean you can't read those books and have fun but you know [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► you don't need to be in the exact same canonical University [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► only read the first of those books the first one with the Grand Admiral Timothy [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► Zahn so bad it kept me from ever reading anymore but I i've at least aware of [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► what happened in it in one of you know I saw the headlines one of the novel's [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► Chewbacca catskill and you know there's no way they're not bringing Chewbacca [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► back in the new movie does eventually gonna kill him in the movie then I can [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► they're not going to just say we're sure to bacha [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► like they did in like they did in Last Crusade where they just kind of pan over [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► to a picture of sean connery on his desk [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► yeah because they couldn't get him to do the movie or whatever yeah I always [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► understood I like to pretend it didn't happen and happen in the same could have [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► University people's 2007 potentially as in the same kind of danger zone because [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► everyone's excited ready for a long time and they couldn't get [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► principles together to do it by the time they did her supporters really old and I [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► was like you know it's also here we have a little better here because I think [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► chronologically speaking everyone is more comfortable with the actors being [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► the ages to be an episode 7 it's like how many years of best and that's [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► exactly how much older you're supposed to be so you're fine make up this is [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► what you look like when you're this age fine and and the other thing to do the [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► same point is there's clearly gonna be a cast of 22 thirty-something heroes and [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► villains major roles to do that sort of running and jumping and falling stuff [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► that you need not Shia LaBeouf right so that the classic characters can also [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► take on the roles of like obi-wan and Grandma Tarkenton [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► to be there though like when they said I guess what everybody's coming back in [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► psychology everybody's conduct and you start to worry that like it's going to [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► be like their last hurrah and the gang will be the young actors but like it'll [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► be a movie for the old stairs and transition to the youngsters during the [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► movie that was the fear that I hear you make it they'll guys run around for as [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► long as you've got them and you'll kill some of them all for those kind of you [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► know passed the baton and the next move you be really about youngsters but like [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► what they like what they did with obi-wan in the Phantom Menace yeah kind [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► of I mean it like well it it's like we're going to introduce what's going to [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► be one of the flagship characters of the whole six movie series obi-wan Kenobi [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► and then we'll just spend the entire Middle our the movie with him waiting on [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► a spaceship in the desert you just don't know who the hell is I know so little [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► about the movies I've been avoiding spoilers that just based on the casting [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► alone you say well given this cast I can make a movie [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► mostly about the old people and about the idea of like now their past their [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► prime in the passing the baton as you generation but this they're like one [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► last heist or whatever you know if you want to use another movie cliché you [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► could do movie entirely about young people and these guys are just in [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► supporting roles in the their brief glimpses of them or whatever I still [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► know what kind of movies gonna be based on the trailer is no basis in a trail at [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► also there's a clear signal of the gates as I know we've got his great people but [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► does a movie about these youngsters and here they all are on the trailer and [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► we're not even gonna show you any of the other people who is playing the fucking [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► somebody well I gotta be there are honored to have surely be like $200 [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► don't know fly casual a great line yeah so I i mean starting out with our [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► anticipation of the force awakens as good a place as any [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► does it really what motivated me to do the show it to get me excited about Star [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► Wars again to and the severe let I would describe indeed for as more of a letdown [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► than even the Phantom I would not just good to see you you would not disagree [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► you think you know I would not know someone is the biggest disappointment of [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► our generation because of the massive anticipation and like it was promised it [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► was foretold ride we wanted to know what happened in this whole you know how I [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► can turn to Darth Vader what's the deal we want to know we're promised like a [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► nine movie magazines for so long and we waited and waited 24 was like suppose [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► they can make another indie movie but if they never make another one I feel [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► satisfied that the arc of Indian 03 good movies 2 good movies in the movie that [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► was ok and that's fine you weren't taking to know something that has been [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► talked about or alluded to the entire run of the series of whether it be for [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► you massively anticipated with a huge gap in between and the disappointment I [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► think was even more crushing only seen any for once but my recollection is it [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► was not as incompetently made as it's it's like the journey dangers I signed [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► for once [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► you in with us we're talking about excitement about the new Bond who added [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► the new Star Wars and hands down is going to be the next year as much as I [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► like 25 bonds now has the hit the out that it's like there's going to be some [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► bad movies there's gonna be some good ones are currently in an upswing 27 [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► those Daniel Craig and like no matter how big a Bond fan you are you're like [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► well this is a bad bomb but always like it's it's it's evergreen just mentioning [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► celebrate the same way that resulted franchises you like well I don't like [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► the spawned a different that you don't have to worry about continuity in order [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► it actors aging out the disaster like doctor who this new guy the ups and [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► downs in its signs were a Star Wars is a defined continuity in stories specific [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► actors playing specific characters the doesn't have that out so it's like it's [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► got its gotta count you don't get a million jobs well even if Specter and of [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► stinking we would get just as excited next time when whatever they cashed it [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► just felt like it would just be me said you like and you expect Asians would be [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► fine cool another you think it's safe to say I think I forget exactly when [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► goldeneye came out but I would say in the last twenty years we've had four [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► pretty good Bond movies we've had goldeneye and in the three Daniel Craig [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► ones so in 20 years we've already we've got four good ones under her belt so [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► does a dud next year wouldn't ways down the swing and a Miss is not weird [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► foreboding understand your attraction to go then I but I'm willing to concede [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► that we've had pretty good set of Bond movies sprinkled throughout the bad ones [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► and even the bad ones are like Mao whenever you know I don't love gold star [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► wars on the other hand weird Ryan yeah well but I do think the long term and [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► this is another reason I thought to convene in you know I've done specials [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► on bond back in the day with Dan [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► and now we're doing Star Wars I do think though that ultimately like twenty [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► twenty five years from now we'll look back at Star Wars as a sort of bond like [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► franchise where I I think we're going to see an endless series of trilogies we [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► hope so because when it was tied up in Lucas like Lucas is the one who waited [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► 16 years or whatever to to give us episode one and there was all because he [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► controlled everything no no cooperation would never have waited that long civil [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► like you're sitting on this cash cow what you're doing right and turning into [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► a franchise freeze it from the constraints imposed by the time this new [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► trilogy is over we'll also freed from the constraints of those characters that [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► we know and love because although all be two older dead certainly actors well and [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► then you're free to do whatever you want with his university could have done all [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► along but because I didn't want to do that never happened right so I have had [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► a weird take on that maybe that I i've seen [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► University like stories being told in the universe but I'm kind of the opinion [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► that the universe exists in order to tell this story and it becomes a hero [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► story and while it's fun to go play in a playground I don't know is I don't know [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► the value of the universe [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► it is worth it like maybe there's maybe you can have another university other [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► interesting stories like it seems like just because you've got is well-defined [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► City University [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► lead out to tell this particular story the fact that you can shoot other [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► stories into it is cool but maybe not the best use of your storytelling skills [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► it's not really sure it's kind of like in the Star Trek universe where like [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► this story [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► captain kirk and the enterprise is one story but what you're left with when [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► you're done with that story are you set it aside is essentially a sci-fi a [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► fleshed-out size by universe with a built-in audience and it's really just [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► an excuse to make sci-fi movies like i'm looking for anything that will that will [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► let sci-fi movies be made where they don't have to be constrained by world [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► because everyone understands the starter interests what I mean [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► TV next generation is like next generation is not Captain Kirk again [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► right but it is the enterprising reverend alway over to you know the the [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► more snow Voyager and stuff like that i mean saying that those are great [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► examples of what you can do but the ideas once you have an established [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► sci-fi universe you can do lots of interesting sci-fi things in it and I [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► want to see more soap I think there's not enough of it every time someone to [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► do something [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► sci-fi ish there are faced with the problem of I have to describe the sci-fi [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► world before I can even tell my story and 30 minutes 30 minutes establishing I [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► think what you i think we need is exactly what you said guy but it led to [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► the writer just concentrate on just give us a handful of really interesting [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► protagonists and antagonists who have an arc and [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► then you you have a world to put him in immediately but given a different you [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► know just givin give us some but don't give us a new version of Vader for God's [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► sake don't just you know yeah anyway it's like they call it these these sort [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► of fault because they end up telling the origin story over and over again because [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► they don't have a universe they have like each superheroes University up to [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► his house not like we've established University we can just tell stories it's [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► like well I have a new character design memo gotta tell you are in america wait [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► a second who is Captain America each character is a universe is just normal [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► is nothing about like Birds Star Wars University Star Trek universe have rules [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► about like people get from place to place how is the system of government [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► organized how do the alien race go on roughly and the beauty of Star Wars is [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► that these stories the original story that's told the university so many [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► things are inside out and touched on that may be interesting that are already [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► there could you just want to have an entire story about you know what [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► happened on or you can take that you can end it but I can do about interest or [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► not both had maybe something else if you're lucky you get this to the right [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► people you can end up with a new many franchise where say this I'm bounty [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► hunter that uses a very charismatic actor becomes like a cross between [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► Indiana Jones and Han Solo but in the Star Wars universe and they get a series [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► of movies and they never know which one is going to hit the same way you never [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► know which one of these disappear but there's lots of things that it touched [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► upon you could say oh we tried that is a movie and the stakes are lower like well [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► this is mostly going to be a Star Wars heist movie or you can make a a sort of [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► like the clone wars in like a rebel Academy time movie where it's more like [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► top gun in their jockeying to be the best x-wing pilot so many movies you can [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► make in this universe with things that are established it can just be plain old [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► science fiction space movies you can do it you could do like a protagonist [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► bounty hunters a little bit more like a real bounty hunter those looking to [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► bring people in a live now [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► assassin you know what some of the other those guys know disintegrate who's maybe [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► like high indeed the way that indeed kept losing out to block everything he [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► went for Bella cut first like a guy who's you want to root for because he is [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► not evil he just a bit of a road but he keeps losing out to IG 88 or something [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► like that and IgD his bounty they are doing like so they have the 379 that [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► they're doing right and there's also going to be stand-alone movies and just [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► understanding and the stand-alone movies will feature you know one of the most [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► well-known characters but that's trying starting to establish the cadence of [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► like our there's there's a trilogy that are clear for these three movies that's [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► going to be a main story but then we're going to have to stand alongside get [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► people used to the idea and I bet you have any one of those standards like [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► really catches that stand alone you know those characters that are that conflict [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► or whatever else been softened its own little mini are giving you the freedom [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► to try a bunch of things he was 16 without people being upset you know only [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► three chances we get episode 12 in 30 11 things you may be able to be good every [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► two secs after getting there was no purpose of three and that's it I'm [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► actually really excited about the show and Johnson me well at least writing we [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► don't know I don't think is directing eight and then he's doing [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► thought but I i'm not quite sure what officials either way it's pretty cool [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► yeah yeah but a lot of going to set up the conflict over the course yes I do [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► think that's a strength of GM's oh he does a great setup yeah I just hope it's [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► a strong because they like in the original trilogy had such a strong claim [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► like an iconic villain and an iconic hero hero dad hero gets to evolve over [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► the course of things but it's such a clear conflict and later a little bit of [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► twisting you know your stuff in there I am your father all the stuff like that [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► is such a good satisfying sturdy symbol arc and modern movies I find tend to [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► over complicate things like too much too much nuance but like that [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► bones are not as sturdy like there always has to be a lot of a lot of [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► things in the nixon it's just our economy seems to be more about clarity [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► simplicity and sturdiness of you know archetypes and he had to do it well and [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► that's that's what you can hang your three movies on the start the talk-show [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► research department is just beat me according to IMDB at least ryan Johnson [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► has been named as the director for both episodes so that is good it's good [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► because I'd like to apply now I do agree that judges said is is in a nutshell and [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► I feel like we can continue on for most of the rest of the show and sort of [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► compared the first trilogy versus the prequel trilogy [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► in detail in broad strokes but in broad strokes the single biggest problem [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► between the two [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► well that's hard to say the single biggest cause there's maybe three or [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► four an enormous problems but 11 of them is the simple lack of clarity over who's [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► the good guys and the bad guys in the first one right before you ever see [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► anything it you see the logo you hear the fan fair and it's already very [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► exciting because it's a cool logo and it's really cool fan fair to start the [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► theme song and then boom you get the scroll and the scroll says right at the [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► beginning of the scroll there's these good guy rebels have just won their [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► first victory against the evil Galactic Empire and there you've already got the [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► basic gist of it you could if you're a little kid and you can even read that [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► fast if you could at least get that first parent rebels win first victory [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► against evil Galactic Empire just right there evil and then all of a sudden you [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► miss the rest of the words and then you see a little tiny space ship being [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► chased by an enormous badass looking spaceship you know exactly what's going [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► on [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► you've already got it good guys outgunned bad guys enormous resources [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► and their says that's the whole three movies rather than the previous set up [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► like the type of movie would have to be to use that time setup is like you would [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► have to be kind of like this even disassembler like like like a Roman HBO [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► or like you know it's not politically entry again the fall of a decade in [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► Empire and that is a much more complicated story [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► and you know underdog rebels vs oppressive empire you know like it's [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► it's it's a different story it's like it's like turning it into a political [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► thrillers like well that's not really what stores this and then failed to [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► competently execute sort of geopolitical geopolitical throws don't have a lot of [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► special cases in gunfights like they're all about backroom dealings and and you [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► know it's like a house of cards in space like they just it's not no one involved [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► in that movie was equipped to do that script in support of the characters and [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► support and that's not the story 12 here we want to hear hey guys who supposedly [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► was nice turn into a theater that's what we want to hear your three movies to [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► tell me that and you just like actually want to tell you about the the fall the [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► decadent Jedi and I'll do it really crappy job of it not interested and you [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► did a petrol yeah I think its debt to levels deep or one he didn't want to [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► political thriller anyway and to the political thriller that George Lucas [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► wrote a maiden 0 sense whatsoever and I don't mean that in a small sent only to [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► to exaggerate a little sense it just doesn't hold any water at all I can see [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► the story he was going for [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► because you can sort of like this if he tells you like this is his characters [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► say things that are basically the text of the movie with the Ember saying stuff [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► like that I can imagine a story like that as like a side story or I'd like [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► maybe one of the expanding universe novels describing the fall of the [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► Republic and why the republic fell but it would have to involve entirely [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► different characters and it would have nothing to do with Darth Vader anything [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► we cared about knowing any spiegel's I would think it's a mistake to tell the [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► backstory of you most intriguing billing or anti-hero because all you can do is [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► listen them like a lot of the power comes in there is a cartoon villain in [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► the first movie and by the final movie you sympathize with the arc of his [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► character [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► yeah so that's it you're done that's that's right you wanna know you still [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► wanna know how did they get to the place where he is [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► New Hope pattern to suppose that person you know come and I always compared to [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► the best-case scenario this is the Godfather series not counting movie 3 [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► where you take Michael Corleone who is a good person [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► Martin he he means well is thrust into a difficult situation and he tries to do [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► the right thing in every every time his present position he tries to do what he [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► thinks is the right thing for himself and his family and a series of what he [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► thinks are good decisions lead him to the place where he is at the end of [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► godfather to its how can how can a good person make series of moves they think [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► you're right and up in a super dark place and the Godfather is a high bar [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► right you know but if you want to say good goodfellas the same thing anyway [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► right kind of place is being witness protection that's more like things fall [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► apart [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► whereas which is how do things come together and come to an end where you [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► are just this you know where he's one of the top people in the Empire defense by [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► the time I expect you are you know the the fist of the empire crushing [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► everybody else you like this was a good person had that happen and so we speak [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► at the end tried I would like to see the story of how does this good person fall [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► into that because that can be a very nice like this store is kind of like [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► calls it a tragedy if the downfall of a great person who you identify with his [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► Thrall through the Godfather movies you feel for Michael Corleone you identify [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► with him you you you feel like he's the the protagonist that he is the good just [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► got to celebrate the good gonna get it takes you to the journey realizes makes [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► you realise along with the movie that this has been done in a particular [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► direction I would like to see that movie so I agree with you i would like to you [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► know since I was a kid have always been curious about how turned to the dark [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► side that that's fascinating [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► but I think the degree of difficulty of telling their story in a satisfactory [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► manner is so high that you run the risk of ruining the character basically if [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► you pay attention to this the prequels they did so basically you have to you [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► have to do it because you can't believe that you don't you don't root for him [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► really Michael Corleone is a good example because you do and you [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► sympathize with his decisions I mean I think clearly probably the biggest [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► decision to start him here's to you know of a sudden he's not up until then on [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► paper he claims he's a war hero he's you know he's college-educated you know his [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► father she employed all over you have a lecture some like that you know he set [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► up for a career in politics and where maybe his family isn't clean he is [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► somebody could look at whatever is done and if they knew the truth they'd find [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► out that you know he's a good kid from gangster family whereas once he pulls [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► the hit on you know he's gotta keep it and it's motivated by love of family [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► love right thing they could go too difficult to tell that story I one of [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► the videos that Johnson around the US to watch for this was the last thing where [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► they're trying to show some of the influences that cutting those influences [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► into the video of New Hope like like George Lucas is inspired by you know [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► these Kurosawa movies in westerns and Flash Gordon and he just posting those [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► inputs the movie end of the month the modern example of the best Quentin [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► Tarantino movies movies that he loved particular movies particularly in [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► particular images that he grew up with [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► kiri purposes and and remixes and filters through his own mind and [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► imagination and make something greater than the whole if you want to tell the [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► downfall of drugs did a story he didn't have any better ideas you can do that [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► same appropriation every mixing directly from gangster movies The Godfather [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► Goodfellas rainy there are so many sources for you to perform the same [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► creative function of saying you can just pull that story straight out and use [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► that as the bones to heroin use particular scenes in like you know there [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► are there other examples of this type of story from sentiment is essentially [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► tragedy even when we know the ending that makes it all the more poignant [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► because the first few movies you'd really want to have a identifying with [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► and rooting for and against and in the end all be all all the worst the [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► audience they would feel terrible that they know what's coming [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► kinda like Titanic me know that you got a build-up had the sinking be meaningful [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► because now you become attached even like historical busy season and he goes [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► and basically becomes a member that's it seems like a decent model for the [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► takeover of the Republic of it and you know what's going to happen to get to [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► that story made exactly happened to see how can I tell that story so that I care [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► when it happened yet knowing that knowing me knowing the ending is [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► actually a very well as a well-trodden path 44 especially I think track tragic [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► fiction I mean shakespeare all the ship most of so many of Shakespeare's plays [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► were not original stories they were either historical or they were these you [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► know parables that had been passed down by spoken word four hundred years people [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► knew the gist of them all he did was do them really really well with really [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► clever dialogue and [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► really crisply defined characters but the fact that people knew they were [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► going emphasizes the tragedy has got thing was the bombing of the guys chair [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► the character doesn't know the bomb there's that show the audience the bomb [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► under the chairs of the audience knows ahead of time that is about the [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► characters don't you know any good attorney if you're reading frantically [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► everything and again does that brings them closer to the dark side like the [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► audience knows like no and it is a bombing like this [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► ample precedent for how to do this well is it wasn't done well in Munich [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► couldn't be you lose the surprise and you gain tremendous tension tension at [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► last whereas like and I think in that the other side of that Hitchcock parable [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► you know his advice on show the audience the bomb under imported under a little [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► girls seat have a little girl eating pizza popcorn you show the bomb it under [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► her seat he said you know everybody's first instinct though if they're making [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► a thriller is to make the Obama secret and we don't find it goes off until it [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► goes off and that makes us the real audience no different than the audience [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► in the theater where the Obamas and he says it's you know you can surprise the [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► hell out of the audience that way but there's no there's no tension tension is [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► what interesting I think that there's there's there's just no arc with Anakin [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► in the in the prequel trilogy it's just annoying annoying and endearing annoying [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► and then all of a sudden 45 minutes to go flip to the dark side so i dont no [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► good reason I'm sure but it's like you got three movies to explain why this [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► guy's going to turn and just the movie hours are ticking by and you're talking [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► about the Emperor and you're talking about people running around shooting [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► each other there and other things and at no point you're like so why is he going [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► to suddenly turn evil because the script tells them to my god I guess and I kill [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► children sure that comes right that fits perfect sense yeah I was so excited [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► after the [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► they should have the original teaser trailer for Phantom Menace there's one [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► shot Anakin standing in everybody's cheering him the little boy and I told [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► he had this weird [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► my interpretation which cities just so forceful that everybody thinks is [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► awesome and it basically he's zhigo's gonna end up turning into innovator and [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► then it turned out it was goofy things that they could have done with that [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► character and that is a simplified way to go like oh he's super powerful goes [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► to his head like that's more of the Marvel Dylan type of thing where you and [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► you're just like you know what i'm saying just genius everyone else on [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► earth is like ants to me I should rule over them and there you know that's one [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► way to go it's a little bit more cartoonish villains it is definitely not [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► as sophisticated as Michael Corleone think that's what you want to promise [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► new trilogy is that Vader is actually a sinking feeling sympathetic person who [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► found it connects but Luke and has a you know cares for his son repent for his [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► sins dies for them and you know has like that's the person that you promised and [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► the crazy egomaniac it's difficult to reconcile that was a good thing you have [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► to go kind of a market where it's like he did want to do the right thing and [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► they tried to that it's like a whiny and annoying and and the romance angled is [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► no chemistry there there's romance is a way you can kind of go bad but it's more [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► like video into a crime of passion doesn't lead you to come in a rule over [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► a giant Empire until the Jedi and start by slaughtering children and it's like [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► well I really do my mom died so I guess now I should kill these children I [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► promise I'll be able to help people stay alive like if you want people stay alive [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► children [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► yeah I did do some other desserts right there where they advertised as being [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► incredibly powerful powerful money order [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► and he doesn't do anything helpful I felt it when this sort of lost [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► opportunity in the second movie when first of all I don't like any of this [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► but when the same people that catches his mother and he loses it like I just [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► want them to just forced to strip the city you know encampment just tearing [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► apart with his my anguish time that he's super powerful then you can start point [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► for child prodigy movies yes very good efficient type thing I care a chess [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► genius or like you and Enders game type thing where their their child and they [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► have amazing powers but they're not emotionally ready to deal with them and [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► that wasn't playing up like he was just like these chimps equivalent peridot [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► stupid it doesn't but he's not super powers are kinda like the marble power [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► in that depending on the scene especially the prequels there there's no [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► real art to the general powers and it's not clear what they're able to do or not [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► able to do like where is it needs at the time and original trilogy it's like [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► before us is serious and we're in pretty weak and by the time it's genuinely [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► impressive whereas the prequels like sometimes removing the giant rock [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► sometimes are pushing one due to a sometimes removed a salt shaker Apple [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► sometimes about lightning but you can block the lightning but it's like the [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► rules are all worked out where as in the original trilogy with a clear our car [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► thrust three home movies they made an ARCA force powers like to peer into the [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► third movie and when it does you surprised it's clearly a higher echelon [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► of power and pickles that's all I thought that the other lessons that was [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► very very clear in the original trilogy from all three movies but in a growing [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► especially in the second to where Luke is more [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► training to be a Jedi growing as a young Jedi was this this point of you if your [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► gonna be a Jedi you cannot you can't touch the dark side like once you go [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► it's it's all corrupted like you can't just dip your toes in the dark side [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► you know once you touch it it's it's going to corrupt you know I haven't [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► theory on that jonathan klein some of the time I think so I mean the response [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► has been positive force and effectively doesn't the murdering everybody who's [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► got four stars except for luke and I think this thing with Luke is that he [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► does touch the dark side he uses force choke on a guard that's not cool know [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► the generals don't we just walked into James Palace and chanclas ago he's just [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► only black and he beat see defeats later by just getting really really angry ya [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► BB in the crap out of him but I think I think the balance is wary when he tosses [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► his leg side and decide that like no I can be uniquely can pull back from the [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► dark so I'm so I'm so willing to reject the dark side that I leave myself [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► defenseless [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► accepted it is not entirely a creation of the prequels the tires yep that's why [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► i think its BS because it's like it's like saying we need to have a balanced [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► machine like you know murder and and safety we never balance beam robbery and [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► having your goods be security need to have some robberies but then sometimes [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► things are stolen and we'd have summer mostly not murders that we need to have [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► some you know anger and hatred but not know I disagree disagree I think so I [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► think if anything to Jedi Order is depicted as being emotionally detached [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► and ultimately that kind of leads to their downfall but that's about it [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► but I think tank said he's basing the passion and love it [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► only passionately loving anybody [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► depicted again this is all dependent on existing markets clear the dark side is [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► using your powers for evil and I have tremendous power is an absolute power [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► corrupts absolutely that's the dark side and all ideas look we're gonna give you [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► these powers and can be really tempting to use his powers to essentially get [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► your way and even if the way that your ways the good like the Empire you still [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► should be careful because it's really easy to slip into like you know using [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► your emotions to you to tell you what to do with these powers and his whole arc [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► is like I'm gonna try is haunted and we're going to try to stay away from the [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► dark side but you know by the second movie that you know his father had [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► problems dealing with this and he's a hundred too and he really wants it to be [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► better and better does terrible things and you with the audience alike pound to [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► move kilmer never but in the end of talk about to die in the end of story of [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► pacifism where is the only movie hero ever to embrace pacifism in the [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► climactic scene he gets away with it because Vader was already completely [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► corrupted as no problem killing the Emperor buddies like I would rather die [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► then fall to the dark side because it's a personal victory center says I'm he's [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► he's had his victory his whole victory was like can I master the force can I [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► messed myself cannot give into matron everything in the end he does and that [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► is his victory even he had been killed by the emperor by Vader he still would [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► have won and you would have been proud of him but we still have a happy ending [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► because that's his orkut not like what I had to do I had to choke the morning [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► guard I had to get angry if he better you didn't have to do stuff that was his [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► battle against himself when when when he's doing and they heard the sad music [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► is playing not to happy music there's no there's no balance and using his anger [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► to beat up on Vader that is his slow defeat the balance angle come from the [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► prequel I think you have a better argument for the balance being that the [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► general I have to you know sort of be more in touch with their emotions [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► and not be you know it's kind of like arguing for the priests should be sold [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► in the church yet from Jenna squeaky clean right he's he's gone to the dark [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► side and he's come back to the bring himself like he was not trained for his [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► entire life to be a part of the training it's like you know like pretty sure [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► whatever you are denying our parlance because we just a few mins and [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► everything you're denying a part of you gonna be sold it because you're among [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► its like what's important for your spiritual I'm so on so forth but the [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► number of humans who deal well being sold as is very low because it's a [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► strong urge to be havin so wouldn't it be better if there was a philosophy that [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► embraced everything that it means to be human and just took the good from that [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► anyway nevermind to who those two also that like let's say with the Catholic [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► Church where where the priests are selling it there is no argument with in [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► church doctrine that what makes somebody a good priest is an inherent quality [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► like genetic where the Jetta even in the in not even going to the second trilogy [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► with a backwards you know we wrote in the M word but even in the first trilogy [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► they say you know the force is strong with the sky walkers and stuff they even [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► admit then that it's you know why in the world with the Jedi orders everybody be [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► celibate if like the dress the best source for new jet I would be their [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► offspring anger makes sense in this disrespecting that because priests on [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► have magical powers right so these individuals have tremendous power and it [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► seemed as if I had described what the whole purpose would be like look some [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► percentage of people in this universe that is amazing magical power that is [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► like super dangerous who we need to get these kids young and we need to tamp [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► down some aspects of human nature essentially we need to get the [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► temperature under control [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► we need to make it because it's very easy gift you give like a five-year-old [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► you know the ability to use the Force and learned you know but I'm there [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► thirteen year olds they will have built up in an amazing abilities as far as I [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► know they'll be very destructive like we need to act in the balanced against the [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► the the worst part of human nature because if we don't we're gonna have a [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► bunch of these people running around with the power would corrupt that they [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► may have to have been good people who need to get there early and what we need [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► to do is give them more of a monk type mindset because if we don't have a bunch [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► of hot head teenagers around the superpowers and that is a really bad [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► formula for for peace and so there is some I could I come from the [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► justification for why it's really important to find for sensitive kids [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► young get them into the program and teach them to maybe they took it too far [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► by total detachment in celibacy or whatever like that i think is too far [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► but have them in a program that lets them deal with their emotions and [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► understand that they have you know with great power comes responsibility to [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► ensure that they have to deal with that in a certain way so make some sense that [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► the program for Jenny would be like she'll like otherwise you can you can [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► you imagine teenagers with the force it would be bad scene let's take a break [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► and we'll come back to them and come back to this question of the Jedi Order [TS]

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00:52:46 ◼   ► never pronounced correctly / daring fireball generator see this is one of [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► those things big picture big picture Star Wars 2 double trilogy the thing [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► that has always stood out to me even I thought even with the original trilogy [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► by the time we got to return of the Jedi that Lucas didn't really have all the [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► shit worked out at the beginning i mean that even by a long shot but then with [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► the second trilogy just just reeks to high hell of stuff that he made up on [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► the fly like almost everything in the prequel trilogy to me shows in it and [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► almost Rex the stuff in the original trilogy so I think it was great I think [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► it worked really well when you doing struggles you can just say stuff as [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► throwaway lines and people can fill in the background because it's not [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► particularly pertinent to the tale of destroying the desperate and Empire kind [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► of builds on that a little bit because there was there was a flimsy enough so [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► that she'll before it could build into it [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► return the Jetta it just kind of understand [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► what's going on so much but the prequel trilogy makes no sense at all I don't [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► understand the Jetta order this it seems like the most effective what I don't get [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► it I don't understand the rationale for that all that can be legitimate threat [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► to a to a Jedi Order of thousands of work is it took them out but not sure [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► it's explained in the span University having read but it makes sense to me [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► that kind of an organization where like might makes right if you are mighty [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► enough there is no reason to have a bunch of henchmen hang around and so if [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► these settle kill each other into his line 222 left I mean I didn't listen to [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► the talk show with missus yet but the title these are really do you can have [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► an apprentice then it's like a wolf pack [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► eventually the lead both gets old and some other wolf challenges into fighting [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► winds and then then he's been that type of model where the strongest survive and [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► thus if tradition you can hang a lot of Southern tradition because jurors like [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► the way it's always been done like the biggest the biggest bad as the big bad [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► but you gotta have someone who's an apprentice because eventually you're [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► gonna get old and die or get defeated him any time to replace it we'd rather [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► have happened if you train some guy i fundamentally it's true to you and it's [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► kind of like that's an honorable way for you to go out and he keeps it going and [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► so it's not entirely crazy system ok fair enough but you know two games to [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► interject also the way the generators of sits next to the republican government [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► that that's exactly what i think is a huge mistake I felt like being in exile [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► make some sense where where you know because of the empire Yoda and Obi one [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► or both [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► but I thought that the way that the Jedi were set up in in the first trilogy was [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► that they not that they were hiding but that they they weren't centralized there [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► was an error like nights yes sandra is exactly what I'm doing where there's not [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► like one central like samurai headquarters were all the samurai come [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► out there's there's tradition and there's a code clearly there's a code [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► and the training might be regularize you know there's a systematic training to [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► become a new one but then once you do you're also the lone wolves you know and [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► there you know I don't really get a good government of the Republic essentially [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► like they were you know they would be the sort of benevolent enforcement I [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► think you could make again you can make an interesting sort of geopolitical [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► thriller about it is weird system of government you know where they have a [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► kind of weird Jedi Order with these magic people at an uneasy truce with the [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► democratically elected non magic people like that could work out the different [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► kind of movie and you can see how government could get into a really weird [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► shape especially if there's legitimate magic running around like well who [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► should run the show should be those magic people should be like vote for [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► people that were voting for a queen inches of teenager in like this all [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► sorts of the government ends up in all sorts of weird distorted shapes [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► unwilling to to believe any weird galactic government shape could work out [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► but if you move is going to be about that then that's what your movies about [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► us about like how do we reconcile this thing and what if the match people don't [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► go crazy and what if the political people start to become a correct what [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► are the checks and balances here and how do empires fall and so on and so forth [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► now the story I was interested in hearing about better an addict in but [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► that's a story you know right from the start in the Phantom Menace where you [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► first thing we see is quite on in his you know padovano be one [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► you know being sent by the Chancellor to do some could you know fix a trade [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► dispute or whatever it is dead just didn't seem to me what the jet over [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► about it didn't seem to me like the jet over people who did the bidding of the [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► government cops like night serve the king right yeah I like samurai serve [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► their their fuel master well I do that I think they were grown and i think is the [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► right word I thought I always imagined the Jetta is as a sort of Ronan you know [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► that they didn't serve a master they serve the force was the master and like [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► a natural sense of just truth and justice that would make sense that I [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► mean and then you don't have counsel at all the day you have basically a [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► government you could still do the government angle they really into that [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► was like what you've got through public but what's the deal with these yet I [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► don't serve any master that are super powerful that are running around we just [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► lost a trust that they're gonna be like benevolent or whatever you can only goes [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► like Marilyn serving King Arthur it's like well there's not that many of these [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► guys but they are running around [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► and we would like to have one in house but the other ones out there how do you [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► deal with it said you deal with people who can who are not not constrained by [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► any government and have powers that you don't understand it but that are really [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► powerful and then you can have something like that we're maybe 11 or so very [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► small handful of the Jedi could volunteer to be the handful of one to [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► serve the the chancellor of the senate or something like that but not the whole [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► order I feel like I did you know they would they were like a sort of quasi [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► independent police force which I thought was just way off for the tone and they [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► did was they bring in the whole Yuengling like this because of [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► everything i mean that that the present for that was said in the movie when the [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► shows up and databases like he's too old yes too old to be in the training as I [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► well remember when I watch a movie like to oldies like he's just just barely an [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► adult like it's it's the perfect time to that's like when you would go into the [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► army or between to order but the that comment from you and the prequels make [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► clear that the whole idea was like a get them when they're young getting like [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► pull them away from their parents to get their toddlers bring him in here and [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► then again my explanation for that in my head can it's like well you really need [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► to get them when they're young because if you left to their own devices you [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► have a serious problem so that the whole order and system is like that seems like [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► it would be the most important function of the Jedi Order would be finding these [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► people and bring them into our and training them as they could disperse [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► after they don't have to remain become a general counsel sit around and surface [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► certainly makes pronouncements you don't need to do that but once you've [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► established that very young kids get the force early and the Yoda said that we [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► need you need to be trained for me very young age I think you it's reasonable to [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► stick with that and say we've got to be there's got to be like a school like [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► zebras to school for gifted you know same thing with the x-men like if you [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► don't get them into Xavier School they might end up falling Magneto [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► even even with just the original trilogy even not even going to the prequel [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► trilogy I always thought that Yoda's protestations in that scene he was just [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► playing hard to get to make loop work that no intention a minute because even [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► in even from what we only know from the original trilogy we know that been lived [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► near Luke his entire life and that he'd sort of how do you know they'd met each [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► other before he knew his bed and you know they'd met each other before wasn't [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► the first time they met when when he rescued him from the same people so [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► obi-wan Kenobi clearly purposefully first twenty years of his life never [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► even mentioned the forced to him not even like it is like telling stories [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► like gluten even know what a lightsaber yeah they have a timing problem with the [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► prequels to of this like you to tell me that these days I were around but then [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► within one generation they're so forgotten that exist like and Luke [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► doesn't know it'll 80 as if every kid in our world where the Jedi are fictional [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► nose with a lightsaber is how in the world does in every kid nat gas like [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► even invaded killed them all before just before you were born you still didn't [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► know about it [TS]

01:01:58 ◼   ► carded in the same way that in the same way that we all know who the samurai [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► where the timing wise that's a problem but about one when you see all the [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► reasons set out to me because because he seems to be the perfect age and the fact [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► that you're will pull out the two old and that you know soon be ridiculous [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► like well it would say like he's too short like it would be the same time we [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► need to show he's like average height for person seems fine maybe just have to [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► be super short right so when he said he's too old he wouldn't pull that out [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► and yes he didn't wanna train was trying to back out or whatever but why put [TS]

01:02:29 ◼   ► something so preposterous and the answer is it's not preposterous that I actually [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► are trained from a super young age and don't usually get in by the time they're [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► they're practically an adult by then they're there to set in their ways it [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► doesn't make much sense in the country because they can buy all rationale [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► warning them young is like they should be feeling the force when they're very [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► young and by the time they get that all they'll just be like totally reckless [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► forces resolute has no idea that even [TS]

01:02:54 ◼   ► until 10 so let's just do things are a don't believe for a second did your dad [TS]

01:02:59 ◼   ► did not intend to train look he's just saying that he wants to see what I look [TS]

01:03:04 ◼   ► reacts that's why he's testing him know that he doesn't whatcha gonna do not [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► train lieutenant you select let the Galaxy go on being the way it is no but [TS]

01:03:14 ◼   ► he didn't like it out of the game is on database hanging around is looking at [TS]

01:03:18 ◼   ► the animals in the lizard to stop checked out just he trained was at best [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► a protestation I kinda wanna get out of bed and is Luke doesn't believe he can [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► lift the X-wing and that goes to him being 20 because he's got an experienced [TS]

01:03:47 ◼   ► and it's got like he he understands how heavy the other hand like yeah I'm sure [TS]

01:03:53 ◼   ► you did not fail you can't you don't believe in this stuff and when the [TS]

01:03:59 ◼   ► little kid is no problem you know you're older it's harder because the other [TS]

01:04:08 ◼   ► angle for him being too old I think it's the least problems with the boys [TS]

01:04:16 ◼   ► reckless yeah just it should be public [TS]

01:04:22 ◼   ► hundred years yeah it should not have been only fifteen years old and then [TS]

01:04:26 ◼   ► baghdad don't say that while they do say before the Empire you could have had a [TS]

01:04:29 ◼   ► benevolent Empire clarence but you don't know how old is he could have long [TS]

01:04:36 ◼   ► lifespans are in this university and he's a Jedi Yoda super old too [TS]

01:04:41 ◼   ► there are many outs like the chronology made sense when you just had the [TS]

01:04:45 ◼   ► original trilogy but when you when you connect it up in the way they did then [TS]

01:04:49 ◼   ► you're like than you think it's far away and stop it seriously man like you get [TS]

01:04:56 ◼   ► TV tells voters in each of the last practitioner to ancient you know twenty [TS]

01:05:07 ◼   ► years and a day when you have a computer system that old [TS]

01:05:11 ◼   ► I always see I always just had the vague sense just as a rock analogy and whether [TS]

01:05:17 ◼   ► it actually worked out but that lets say like in that scene on the Death Star [TS]

01:05:21 ◼   ► with the guys saying you know the last practitioner that they that at least the [TS]

01:05:26 ◼   ► age of the empire and the age when the Jedi word either a dominant force [TS]

01:05:31 ◼   ► missing or reduced to just a handful hidden around the galaxy was around the [TS]

01:05:36 ◼   ► length of those men ages they back I was born in a world where the Jedi were [TS]

01:05:41 ◼   ► already decimated you know like 35 40 years you know because if it wasn't you [TS]

01:05:47 ◼   ► know it's sorta like for what people like us like the world without TV like [TS]

01:05:53 ◼   ► we know that there was a world without TV we believe in a world without TV but [TS]

01:05:57 ◼   ► we don't we haven't experienced it which makes it because it predates our life [TS]

01:06:00 ◼   ► you know it seems freedom black-and-white TV black-and-white TV [TS]

01:06:05 ◼   ► seems ancient to me it's intellectually fattened kind of physically just can't [TS]

01:06:11 ◼   ► really picture it right whereas if I was maybe ten years older than black and [TS]

01:06:15 ◼   ► white TV would seem like something from a child you can go to explain the [TS]

01:06:22 ◼   ► chronology is the backwater thing where ya these things around but information [TS]

01:06:26 ◼   ► is not evenly distributed and so if you are really far away from all the action [TS]

01:06:31 ◼   ► and some remote planted [TS]

01:06:34 ◼   ► you're not interested in the history of the republic or any sort of government [TS]

01:06:38 ◼   ► or anything like that and maybe just you know like the general story that we [TS]

01:06:42 ◼   ► heard some stories demands not too far away [TS]

01:06:45 ◼   ► a war with them and we know about Japanese stuff in their culture came [TS]

01:06:49 ◼   ► over here how much culture about maybe they didn't get any older brother John [TS]

01:06:53 ◼   ► it still doesn't Johnson down the street he's purposely not mentioning it maybe [TS]

01:06:57 ◼   ► that's part of his strategy of keeping an eye on that put him in a backwater [TS]

01:07:00 ◼   ► where they've never even heard of the Jedi you can kind of explain it but once [TS]

01:07:04 ◼   ► you get like Han Solo is Jen over the galaxy and he's like never seen anything [TS]

01:07:09 ◼   ► that made me think before you never seen anything like it seemed like movies of [TS]

01:07:13 ◼   ► July thing yeah and then in the new trilogy and then again he's supposedly [TS]

01:07:20 ◼   ► super super powerful PC Anakin as a kid doing some things that would require the [TS]

01:07:25 ◼   ► force you know that if just because the jet are decimated doesn't mean that [TS]

01:07:29 ◼   ► human beings who have forced related powers [TS]

01:07:33 ◼   ► you know that you wouldn't run into him with what we can only assume to be the [TS]

01:07:36 ◼   ► wide variety of action that Han Solo is seen you know here to porn is is well I [TS]

01:07:43 ◼   ► mean and it's all things like he's good reflexes he's the only human who can [TS]

01:07:47 ◼   ► Padres you could just be a child proud of you have amazing reflexes you don't [TS]

01:07:50 ◼   ► necessarily have to he's not he's not moving salt shakers has migrated I just [TS]

01:07:55 ◼   ► that I just think that if a seven-year-old is showing those [TS]

01:07:57 ◼   ► capabilities that Han Solo would have seen something cheated dice you no doubt [TS]

01:08:07 ◼   ► I mean I'm the fact that it works in the context of the region attack on the [TS]

01:08:11 ◼   ► prequels with that time line between them and all of a sudden it just doesn't [TS]

01:08:16 ◼   ► read is this true [TS]

01:08:17 ◼   ► you have to be willfully stupid so I want to touch on some of the right [TS]

01:08:25 ◼   ► things that to me just clearly showed that it wasn't thought out in advance [TS]

01:08:29 ◼   ► and I'm going to say this before do that so many writing complaints that we can [TS]

01:08:34 ◼   ► do and should do and I think it's fundamental to prequels emptiness [TS]

01:08:39 ◼   ► I'll say though I'll forgive Lucas for the those exposition of problems like [TS]

01:08:45 ◼   ► like Luke not knowing what a lightsaber is of the forces I'll forgive those [TS]

01:08:48 ◼   ► completely because of the need to explain to us the audience what those [TS]

01:08:53 ◼   ► things are and yes it was a little clumsy if you try to you know if you [TS]

01:08:57 ◼   ► really think about it thanks a little clumsy but you know it's in hindsight [TS]

01:09:02 ◼   ► overall it was a good scene I remember you know very finely looking back on [TS]

01:09:06 ◼   ► that scene in OB one's house where he gets the lightsaber and turns it on [TS]

01:09:09 ◼   ► fears about the Jedi in the photo is perfectly acceptable at the prequel to [TS]

01:09:14 ◼   ► exist as perfect as he he really wouldn't have known as a farm boy how [TS]

01:09:17 ◼   ► would you know about the farmer shows up the old man the old man chosen something [TS]

01:09:20 ◼   ► ancient thing is it's it's it's it's a device that you get someone who is naive [TS]

01:09:26 ◼   ► and you have the wiser person explained to them and you really works perfectly [TS]

01:09:30 ◼   ► in the context of that story I think it would be a little bit more elegant if it [TS]

01:09:33 ◼   ► was a little bit more and I hate to say it but a little bit more like the scene [TS]

01:09:37 ◼   ► in the Phantom Menace we're young Anakin asked if his agenda I could seize you [TS]

01:09:44 ◼   ► know he sees his laser sword he doesn't even know the name lightsaber but even [TS]

01:09:49 ◼   ► if you just said you know just expressed some sort of I've heard of lightsabers [TS]

01:09:53 ◼   ► but never believed I'd see what you don't want to know about to be complete [TS]

01:10:02 ◼   ► me if I because he's got his art is he's a farm boy who dream something more and [TS]

01:10:06 ◼   ► is waterworld opens up to him so I'm perfectly happy with him not knowing at [TS]

01:10:09 ◼   ► all I'm explanation as delivered by Alec Guinness but so laid back and not going [TS]

01:10:14 ◼   ► to let a detail not mentioning declaring its like two or three sentences invade [TS]

01:10:19 ◼   ► it's the type of exploration you would get if these guys like I've decided that [TS]

01:10:23 ◼   ► I'm gonna bring on board this thing but I can't explain it all to you and give [TS]

01:10:27 ◼   ► you the broad strokes and move on to the next right and it's well you know Luke [TS]

01:10:32 ◼   ► is are you know he's there for us we see yes we we see that whole thing through [TS]

01:10:37 ◼   ► Luke size and up until that point the movie [TS]

01:10:40 ◼   ► you know it's actually it's not like this hybrid fantasy science fiction [TS]

01:10:44 ◼   ► combo it's more just science fiction it's just spaceships and laser guns and [TS]

01:10:49 ◼   ► then all of a sudden in that scene where weird explained that it's also a little [TS]

01:10:53 ◼   ► magic and then movie a new hope is not force him lightsabers force general I [TS]

01:10:59 ◼   ► guess players got my excuse to have a sword fight but like really look like to [TS]

01:11:06 ◼   ► my I think it's only the my tree that is that his magic you didn't even do the [TS]

01:11:10 ◼   ► force moves like Luke Luke dreams about is being a pilot like he wanted to fly a [TS]

01:11:16 ◼   ► spaceship and he's interested in the rebellion you know about the rebellion [TS]

01:11:19 ◼   ► he's totally understand their billions of liberal basically like he just wants [TS]

01:11:25 ◼   ► a big sis friend has gone off during the rebellion and he's totally into flying [TS]

01:11:30 ◼   ► things and be like he's he's a young punk who you know once they get off this [TS]

01:11:35 ◼   ► thing can rock and do great things and none of that has anything to do with the [TS]

01:11:39 ◼   ► four swords are stored finding a moving things your mind is totally the second [TS]

01:11:43 ◼   ► movie gets him into that first movie he's just like you know it's coming of [TS]

01:11:47 ◼   ► age story I'm going off to the war and even though he does a little bit of for [TS]

01:11:51 ◼   ► stuff like iran says taking the first step into a larger world he has but that [TS]

01:11:55 ◼   ► larger world is not yet interest him he doesn't realize the importance of it [TS]

01:11:58 ◼   ► until more or less he sees obi-wan disappear in a puff of smoke in and [TS]

01:12:02 ◼   ► starts talking to him through his you know his mind is like something to piss [TS]

01:12:06 ◼   ► poor thing and that aspect of it I do think was loosely plotted out by Lucas [TS]

01:12:12 ◼   ► we're here in this first movie the forces really just for Vader and obi-wan [TS]

01:12:16 ◼   ► and Luke gets a taste of it [TS]

01:12:19 ◼   ► few drops on his tongue you know and it helps it helps to have final victory in [TS]

01:12:25 ◼   ► the movie like it appalling skills are not enough and he has to you know the [TS]

01:12:30 ◼   ► whole big takeaway from and that's what has he done he's barely scratched the [TS]

01:12:34 ◼   ► surface of like he didn't find anyone like that for the whole movie right he [TS]

01:12:38 ◼   ► got shot in the butt a little floating ball but in the end of the movie [TS]

01:12:42 ◼   ► resonated so much the forced others like this in turn off your targeting computer [TS]

01:12:48 ◼   ► but like you know that the things they're inside you [TS]

01:12:51 ◼   ► your emotions and feelings and thoughts are that feels so powerful inside you [TS]

01:12:55 ◼   ► can actually have next time on a manifestation of that power and they [TS]

01:12:59 ◼   ► will lead you to victory and it will be a good victory in a blah but no one else [TS]

01:13:02 ◼   ► could have made that shot and I think and I know this is maybe controversial I [TS]

01:13:09 ◼   ► think John you and i talked about this I think that when Lucas Road Star Wars or [TS]

01:13:15 ◼   ► Star Wars a new hope and I think he thought if this is a hit and I get to [TS]

01:13:21 ◼   ► make the rest of the trilogy you know that was the whole day gotta make this [TS]

01:13:24 ◼   ► first one and if it's successful he said that they can write and finished in a [TS]

01:13:29 ◼   ► planned trilogy I think he wrote it with the idea that Luke was going to be the [TS]

01:13:33 ◼   ► guy who gets the girl I think so yeah it's reasonable and the first movie [TS]

01:13:40 ◼   ► completely supports that right I don't think there was any plan at all for [TS]

01:13:44 ◼   ► Leyna to be his sister did plan on Vader beings father I mean there's a whole [TS]

01:13:48 ◼   ► thing where voters I think the German word for father I think that might have [TS]

01:13:54 ◼   ► been there although I'm still not even convinced them that because when OB one [TS]

01:13:58 ◼   ► tells him that later he was killed by Vader it plays well in hindsight but I [TS]

01:14:06 ◼   ► can't help but think that from what we know of Lucas overall the keys if that's [TS]

01:14:11 ◼   ► what he thought overall he would have overplayed it and it would have been [TS]

01:14:13 ◼   ► like he killed her father so I just as it happens I just my scene just before [TS]

01:14:19 ◼   ► coming on this podcast and this too is you can take it one way if you look at [TS]

01:14:25 ◼   ► it with hindsight it is acted perfectly to be like [TS]

01:14:28 ◼   ► he's thinking of like what he's gonna say you know how you gonna say as he [TS]

01:14:34 ◼   ► knows gonna lie right there in hindsight it can look like it the other way that [TS]

01:14:37 ◼   ► the same performance from Alec Guinness can look is you don't tell kids what [TS]

01:14:42 ◼   ► happened to his father especially inspired died while I gotta tell you [TS]

01:14:47 ◼   ► that you know he was killed by Darth Vader and it's unpleasant and the same [TS]

01:14:52 ◼   ► performance really like either one of those things reads on it perfectly [TS]

01:14:55 ◼   ► obvious with hindsight I go to event permits but it could also just as easily [TS]

01:14:59 ◼   ► be a little kid is asking about his father and I know this father was killed [TS]

01:15:04 ◼   ► he didn't he didn't die peacefully in his sleep he was killed by Darth Vader [TS]

01:15:08 ◼   ► does the bad guy leading people who are you know like everything always well I [TS]

01:15:13 ◼   ► don't know if Lucas told Alec Guinness by the way when Lucas about what [TS]

01:15:18 ◼   ► happened to his father you going to be essentially line even if I can tell you [TS]

01:15:21 ◼   ► what did happen just follow what you gonna tell the truth I get the feeling [TS]

01:15:27 ◼   ► that Lucas meter reader being his father in the second one and I get the feeling [TS]

01:15:31 ◼   ► did he just went back in so many things and jet fuel that he just went back to [TS]

01:15:36 ◼   ► the well he made another Dexter that even as a kid but it kind of makes it [TS]

01:15:42 ◼   ► nice circle like I do hope when 3G is going to the oil bath then I forgot [TS]

01:15:50 ◼   ► talking to or whatever it is like you know I'm just the protocol droid and not [TS]

01:15:53 ◼   ► very good at telling stories like it at throwaway lines like that they get paid [TS]

01:15:57 ◼   ► off to movies later I guess I could but I do think that he he [TS]

01:16:02 ◼   ► into being the Skywalker family in general because I think he felt that he [TS]

01:16:09 ◼   ► needed to reveal that was akin to the one in empire but he but he did an [TS]

01:16:14 ◼   ► empire is that no there is another so he's gotta pay off the is there is [TS]

01:16:17 ◼   ► another I'm glad you didn't leave that dangling the fact that the another [TS]

01:16:20 ◼   ► mostly material as they build on that episode 7 days mostly nurtures like [TS]

01:16:26 ◼   ► basically says another which means they like best let's there to let you know [TS]

01:16:30 ◼   ► that Lucas easily die an empire and became pretty darn close to dying like [TS]

01:16:35 ◼   ► to make you think guess what guys I'm going to call me character because there [TS]

01:16:38 ◼   ► is another right and just so happens it turns out that he lives and in general [TS]

01:16:41 ◼   ► we find out who the other is but it's mostly inconsequential because hey Lucas [TS]

01:16:44 ◼   ► alive [TS]

01:16:45 ◼   ► look again at died a Jedi than the other would-be we would be hanging around on [TS]

01:16:50 ◼   ► for the future will be the consequence is that it makes go ballistic and yeah I [TS]

01:17:01 ◼   ► mean it was working to the movie just talked about making it up as you go [TS]

01:17:05 ◼   ► along I'm I'm willing to believe that like having major turn out to be a [TS]

01:17:09 ◼   ► father [TS]

01:17:10 ◼   ► find that works but how many surprise familiar relationships are you allowed [TS]

01:17:13 ◼   ► in a trilogy guess what another main characters also related to you [TS]

01:17:19 ◼   ► everybody related to me yeah it could have been it didn't have to be a sister [TS]

01:17:24 ◼   ► could have just been that later was the other one [TS]

01:17:28 ◼   ► latent untapped force me to meet 3 p.m. Hamas ridiculous and that's exactly what [TS]

01:17:37 ◼   ► he does he does like the Vulcan mind chat with leslie has escaped investment [TS]

01:17:44 ◼   ► yeah I know who the other is and how they relate that communication with each [TS]

01:17:51 ◼   ► other as you there they related for the both guys are both would be semi Plaza [TS]

01:17:57 ◼   ► because plenty of movies you like I just feel that my non magical movies like I [TS]

01:18:01 ◼   ► have something somehow my brother is in a terrible car and you know people [TS]

01:18:05 ◼   ► totally buy into it specially trained and we have established telepathic link [TS]

01:18:10 ◼   ► between people in one of them is dead man is in his ear like I guess you see [TS]

01:18:22 ◼   ► and I think if you look member the original posters and it's even the Star [TS]

01:18:27 ◼   ► Wars logo is a little different and maybe even a lot different still got [TS]

01:18:30 ◼   ► like the connected letters but it's like in a different almost like a pyramid [TS]

01:18:33 ◼   ► shape [TS]

01:18:34 ◼   ► and it's like there's a lot more stylized it doesn't I don't know that [TS]

01:18:40 ◼   ► any of the characters quite look like likenesses that the actual actors but [TS]

01:18:44 ◼   ► Luke is holding his lightsaber above his head and chest to get a big test coming [TS]

01:18:49 ◼   ► out of his leg it to me that that poster gets authorised because it's a tale of [TS]

01:18:59 ◼   ► this boy from a farm which is what it ended up being who goes on this grand [TS]

01:19:04 ◼   ► adventure and gets the girl he rescues the princess he rescues across the [TS]

01:19:10 ◼   ► canyon on a rope to get there like it should give him a kiss for that for luck [TS]

01:19:14 ◼   ► and then there's the famous kiss in on haha in your doing actual romance and [TS]

01:19:20 ◼   ► gentle it's like Disney movie has like Belkis the BC there is no kissing on the [TS]

01:19:28 ◼   ► lips it's just like all kind of understood that Lucas save the princess [TS]

01:19:32 ◼   ► nothing is nothing is sexual though as that poster because that was the movie [TS]

01:19:41 ◼   ► palaces like you have to promise even if there's no actual sex movie at the [TS]

01:19:44 ◼   ► promise is going to be God is going to be a girl and the girls gonna be [TS]

01:19:48 ◼   ► submissive Princesa wraps herself around here as leg and hear his chest is gonna [TS]

01:19:51 ◼   ► be gigantic and Mark Hamill stressed out of his white tunic you know it's I'm [TS]

01:20:00 ◼   ► looking at it now and if I'm correct and Han Han and Chewie I don't think or even [TS]

01:20:05 ◼   ► in it it's you know there's a big Vader behind them but it's Luke and Leia and [TS]

01:20:12 ◼   ► the Droid yeah and it's a good call what they like if you if your gonna call an [TS]

01:20:18 ◼   ► audible it's a good call it an empire so greatest because after the first movie [TS]

01:20:22 ◼   ► you've got you know the child fairy tale we're gonna save the princess gets its [TS]

01:20:26 ◼   ► way across the canyon with their they'll get medals at the end legs in a special [TS]

01:20:30 ◼   ► smile during the medal ceremony it's appropriate for like prepubescent boys [TS]

01:20:34 ◼   ► who understand the concept of giving the girls whatever but once you're about to [TS]

01:20:39 ◼   ► make the second movie you say you know what you know later actually the [TS]

01:20:44 ◼   ► bickering led [TS]

01:20:45 ◼   ► a better indication of a budding romantic relationship than anything that [TS]

01:20:49 ◼   ► happened between legs and look at that is a much more interesting relationship [TS]

01:20:52 ◼   ► so why don't we go in that direction and they did it was smart and sister to do [TS]

01:20:57 ◼   ► that because that that is the actual relationship with chemistry between [TS]

01:21:02 ◼   ► lukin well I don't know about at the time I was very young but you can tell [TS]

01:21:10 ◼   ► when when she kisses Luke that it's basically just to get on very little to [TS]

01:21:18 ◼   ► do with getting ready to handle put his hands behind his head gone off a girl [TS]

01:21:24 ◼   ► kissed me it's like it's hot as you know yet but he did not look as far as we [TS]

01:21:35 ◼   ► know that hasn't even had a girlfriend here where it's not you know worldly [TS]

01:21:39 ◼   ► wise and like he's he's not even upset with lucrative thing is like she wants [TS]

01:21:48 ◼   ► it basically he's resigned as she won that argument to do with the two of them [TS]

01:21:54 ◼   ► and that's that's exactly that's what he does not have any part of empire overlay [TS]

01:22:02 ◼   ► for thinking about her friend like when he's having his transit Sunday nobody's [TS]

01:22:07 ◼   ► like Olay like in terms of his friends is gonna save on legs got to go save his [TS]

01:22:12 ◼   ► friends he's not he's not hung up on led all speaking about the sort of being [TS]

01:22:18 ◼   ► part of a vampire [TS]

01:22:20 ◼   ► what I loved you know we decided we could do this said of course I want them [TS]

01:22:25 ◼   ► all over again [TS]

01:22:27 ◼   ► destroy your hand in in in the first one ends with him basically turning out in [TS]

01:22:33 ◼   ► saving the day helping to exceed the day and then we come immediately into Empire [TS]

01:22:40 ◼   ► Strikes Back and we keep building on that as soon as he finds out the Lucas [TS]

01:22:45 ◼   ► out in the cold [TS]

01:22:46 ◼   ► he's willing to die to go get him make the character progression starts exactly [TS]

01:22:51 ◼   ► where it ended like minded already decided it like know he's only and he's [TS]

01:22:55 ◼   ► committed to saving that these people are as friends and he's going to go help [TS]

01:22:58 ◼   ► them and also we don't know we don't need to repeat the arc immediately is [TS]

01:23:04 ◼   ► jumping on his see people in his continuation of the arc of a chase [TS]

01:23:09 ◼   ► because he's got a price on his head but he did but we don't see him being that [TS]

01:23:15 ◼   ► the scandal to his friends anymore he goes out for Luke and when the detective [TS]

01:23:23 ◼   ► base he immediately goes to get later and try to get out it's the first time [TS]

01:23:29 ◼   ► removed because the end of a new hope and the beginning of time during which [TS]

01:23:35 ◼   ► there is more like they've been together so now they're essentially not just [TS]

01:23:39 ◼   ► friends but warm bodies [TS]

01:23:40 ◼   ► hijinks and it does that to me is that the brilliant that's like Star Wars at [TS]

01:23:47 ◼   ► its best is the Lord Mandelson story where it's just they just mentioned it a [TS]

01:23:51 ◼   ► cool sounding name you know something happen you know they're just in in the [TS]

01:23:57 ◼   ► in the quickest way possible simply through dialogue they just imply [TS]

01:24:02 ◼   ► feels genuine that they've been through some shit in between the two movies in [TS]

01:24:06 ◼   ► mind you the bounty hunters exists in the universe which comes in later and I [TS]

01:24:15 ◼   ► think I can't I could do a whole show just because I think Empire I think [TS]

01:24:20 ◼   ► empires what holds the whole thing together I think Star Wars was clearly [TS]

01:24:23 ◼   ► was a huge sensation the biggest pop cultural you know the whole series [TS]

01:24:31 ◼   ► nothing is ever top that [TS]

01:24:33 ◼   ► but the one that makes it something that we keep hoping for when trend house has [TS]

01:24:40 ◼   ► there been a sequel is as good or better than the other godfather to think about [TS]

01:24:50 ◼   ► maybe aliens but here is the thing about Star Wars Empire empire took it to [TS]

01:24:56 ◼   ► another level like it's not just because the Godfather 1952 are at the same level [TS]

01:25:00 ◼   ► they're both the same kind of adults they're serious they're they're they're [TS]

01:25:05 ◼   ► aiming for the same type of things in the past 52 was just as good in some [TS]

01:25:08 ◼   ► people might say better [TS]

01:25:10 ◼   ► Star Wars a new hope it's like kind of more of a kids movie again with the [TS]

01:25:16 ◼   ► romance is not real romances very simplified it's very sort of fairy tale [TS]

01:25:20 ◼   ► you know is it a drag along with the kids at Empire is like action we're [TS]

01:25:25 ◼   ► going to take this even more serious and not in a everything is greedy you know [TS]

01:25:29 ◼   ► Tim Burton's Batman Dark Knight Batman Begins like everything's gonna be dark [TS]

01:25:33 ◼   ► and gritty river just say we're gonna have a real emotional stakes could have [TS]

01:25:37 ◼   ► relationships between adults did you read as true to adults rights and kids [TS]

01:25:42 ◼   ► will take up on the fact that the relationship between is a more [TS]

01:25:47 ◼   ► legitimate [TS]

01:25:47 ◼   ► adult relationship than anything that took place in New Hope and that's why [TS]

01:25:52 ◼   ► it's taking it to the next level i love u observation and then to get [TS]

01:26:07 ◼   ► interrupted but when they end up and include city and she's directed their [TS]

01:26:11 ◼   ► discreet hookup on its kind of thought of it before but you had the observation [TS]

01:26:20 ◼   ► that excluded slept good about that just like there's so much more relaxed around [TS]

01:26:26 ◼   ► each other in the release of tension yeah yeah [TS]

01:26:31 ◼   ► they relate to each other is that finally will they won't they [TS]

01:26:36 ◼   ► the answer was that they will and they did and now they can relate to each [TS]

01:26:39 ◼   ► other directly without their so guarded with each other before kind of like you [TS]

01:26:44 ◼   ► know they're trying to guard themselves but not reveal too much of themselves [TS]

01:26:47 ◼   ► but show that they want to get together and they go in and eventually that [TS]

01:26:50 ◼   ► settled down and they can finally relate to each other directly without the [TS]

01:26:56 ◼   ► artifice like and it happens it happens on camera and all you see is like that [TS]

01:27:00 ◼   ► just a familiarity in like that he's still teasing each other but it did so [TS]

01:27:05 ◼   ► much there's less tension going on you know up until then nothing that they've [TS]

01:27:09 ◼   ► said to each other is actually would either one is actually feeling exactly [TS]

01:27:12 ◼   ► except maybe oh you do have a few moments not many but you do have them [TS]

01:27:22 ◼   ► yea yea again together where they believe that both me and Mr and as often [TS]

01:27:30 ◼   ► happens at the same time yet but on the whole take up until then as I can take [TS]

01:27:37 ◼   ► you would leave you and which isn't true is obsessed and hurt angle is I'm not [TS]

01:27:42 ◼   ► interested in you at all which is not true she's interested even know she [TS]

01:27:45 ◼   ► knows she shouldn't be like if there's a line that that is honest it's her I like [TS]

01:27:51 ◼   ► nice man but that that brings us to to me what was the great thing about Empire [TS]

01:28:01 ◼   ► was it seemed as though George Lucas recognized his weaknesses and recognized [TS]

01:28:07 ◼   ► everything that would could have been improved in the first one and then did [TS]

01:28:13 ◼   ► they either took action to rectify it or or delegated so for examples tilted [TS]

01:28:19 ◼   ► character dialogue guess what George Lucas very creative in making stories [TS]

01:28:22 ◼   ► create brilliant seriously brilliant world builder probably I would argue the [TS]

01:28:28 ◼   ► most brilliant cinematic world builder we've ever seen like you can argue that [TS]

01:28:33 ◼   ► the Lord of the Rings is more fully realized but that's a novel is that it's [TS]

01:28:38 ◼   ► not cinema you know as a purely cinematic world would say he's imperiled [TS]

01:28:43 ◼   ► guess what he can't write dialogue was the Harrison Ford line george you can't [TS]

01:28:48 ◼   ► say you can't say it so he brings in two great screen writers Larry Kasdan who [TS]

01:28:57 ◼   ► guessed yet did Raiders came first [TS]

01:29:00 ◼   ► did great work on readers which is a fantastic story and has fantastic [TS]

01:29:05 ◼   ► dialogue and a fantastic relationship between Harrison Ford and Marian Rivera [TS]

01:29:12 ◼   ► Kansas again [TS]

01:29:15 ◼   ► well and talk a legend Leigh Brackett who wrote stuff for humphrey bogart and [TS]

01:29:24 ◼   ► yeah from the forties as forties or which is great and that's what you know [TS]

01:29:34 ◼   ► now that I'm older obviously in 1981 when it came out I had not seen The [TS]

01:29:38 ◼   ► Maltese Falcon you know I thought black-and-white movies you know old [TS]

01:29:43 ◼   ► people but now that I have like a richer vocabulary see movies like that that's [TS]

01:29:49 ◼   ► what the Empire Strikes Back crackles with Jose through most of that script [TS]

01:29:53 ◼   ► though like in the spirit of it still buys it like a big empire making a [TS]

01:29:58 ◼   ► vampire book by [TS]

01:29:58 ◼   ► vampire book by [TS]

01:30:00 ◼   ► her something bad that the big Jack coffee-table book while making a number [TS]

01:30:02 ◼   ► of great I recommend everybody reading that made me feel like that Lucas pick [TS]

01:30:08 ◼   ► these people were amazingly talented workers who are you are new or you know [TS]

01:30:11 ◼   ► like a pic to pick people whose work he admired and then when they set about [TS]

01:30:16 ◼   ► doing things either he was disengage from it or if he was engaged the feeling [TS]

01:30:20 ◼   ► I got from him is like guys doesn't have to be that good like that he would be [TS]

01:30:24 ◼   ► fine with that they were they want to make it the best it can possibly be and [TS]

01:30:28 ◼   ► if it up to him he black you just go home what you've got is fine like for [TS]

01:30:32 ◼   ► today yet that's fine whereas the people actually involved in making the movie [TS]

01:30:36 ◼   ► were just like we're gonna make this as good as we can possibly make it and they [TS]

01:30:40 ◼   ► were arguing with each other but everything right down to the actors and [TS]

01:30:42 ◼   ► Harrison Ford argue about Hans motivations of what he would say in the [TS]

01:30:45 ◼   ► scene of like very collaborative very contentious aggressive filmmaking on the [TS]

01:30:50 ◼   ► part of actually making the movie and it looks like it's just that it's a kids [TS]

01:30:55 ◼   ► movie guys just chill like you don't like it was more involved he would not [TS]

01:31:00 ◼   ► have been pressing people too and we see what happens when he didn't have the [TS]

01:31:03 ◼   ► same of everything involves like what he cared about deeply was like the design [TS]

01:31:07 ◼   ► of the ships and the computer graphics and stuff like that and when he cared [TS]

01:31:12 ◼   ► less about was like dialogue story acting performances you know of that [TS]

01:31:17 ◼   ► type of stuff to anyway [TS]

01:31:21 ◼   ► ticket average sponsor break but anybody who's looking for some good order movies [TS]

01:31:25 ◼   ► to watch would could do worse than some of the ones that leave bracket worked on [TS]

01:31:29 ◼   ► the screenplay for going backwards in time I'm just looking at her IMDB [TS]

01:31:34 ◼   ► credits some of the ones I've seen that I know a standout [TS]

01:31:37 ◼   ► the long goodbye from 1973 that was robert altman movie but to make a philip [TS]

01:31:45 ◼   ► marlowe detective story set in the seventies starring what's his name the [TS]

01:31:52 ◼   ► guy from Ola gold from young kids on them from oceans 11 like I seventies [TS]

01:32:00 ◼   ► take on a forties film noir which is awesome [TS]

01:32:03 ◼   ► probably my one of my favorite westerns ever made [TS]

01:32:08 ◼   ► Howard Hawks Rio Bravo you guys ever see Rio Bravo oh my god is one of the best [TS]

01:32:14 ◼   ► movies ever seen Dean Allen are not in Alan Dean Martin plays alcoholic [TS]

01:32:19 ◼   ► you don't say but it's actually to me like a pretty interesting take on [TS]

01:32:26 ◼   ► alcoholism in a kid's action movie you know with John Wayne as great great [TS]

01:32:32 ◼   ► great movie and The Big Sleep from 1946 with Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall [TS]

01:32:42 ◼   ► morning that's probably why you're gonna watch one of the ones I did and I know [TS]

01:32:51 ◼   ► you're right didn't use a large parts of her script but it definitely infused the [TS]

01:32:56 ◼   ► dialogue of Empire Strikes Back alright second spot sorry I mean thank our good [TS]

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01:33:20 ◼   ► never look at him anywhere except I photo in your phone you don't get to [TS]

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01:33:28 ◼   ► you want us to bring some more photos go check out fracture they do this in an [TS]

01:33:33 ◼   ► amazing way with fracture you send them your photos they print them directly on [TS]

01:33:39 ◼   ► glass sound like a piece of paper behind glass they have decided how the hell [TS]

01:33:43 ◼   ► they do it I've never seen anything else like it you send your pictures they [TS]

01:33:48 ◼   ► print them directly on glass it's almost like the effect like the whole thing [TS]

01:33:52 ◼   ► like with iPhones I used to look like you had asked screen under the glass and [TS]

01:33:56 ◼   ► then when they first started using the screen closer to the touch you know to [TS]

01:34:00 ◼   ► the surface it looks like the pixels around on glass that's what fracture [TS]

01:34:03 ◼   ► photos they look like pictures printed directly on glass the prints come with a [TS]

01:34:08 ◼   ► foam back that's ready to mount right out of the box frame and desktop [TS]

01:34:13 ◼   ► standard something you can hang on the wall [TS]

01:34:15 ◼   ► all-in-one right out of the box really clever packaging frankly and it just [TS]

01:34:21 ◼   ► looks like no other picture that i've ever seen [TS]

01:34:25 ◼   ► it's a really cool gift just in time for the holidays [TS]

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01:34:34 ◼   ► gifts to give out birthdays and stuff like that seriously fracture is great we [TS]

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01:34:42 ◼   ► pocket like mothers day just find a picture of my kid [TS]

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01:35:00 ◼   ► grouper GRU BER and you can save 20% a whole bunch of sizes ranging from really [TS]

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01:35:28 ◼   ► fractured fairy his [TS]

01:35:30 ◼   ► makes fractures in his arrogance thanks man as well as a nice idea yeah that's [TS]

01:35:35 ◼   ► only useful if you come out with a new a barrier like Marco and sell the old one [TS]

01:35:39 ◼   ► but it's a good idea I like it is going to hurt other people say that Empire we [TS]

01:35:48 ◼   ► could go on and on about empire but it's there's almost no wasted exposition [TS]

01:35:52 ◼   ► you're just like you said you're thrust back in this world it feels like yes [TS]

01:35:56 ◼   ► some stuff is going on but the characters are on this exact same mark [TS]

01:35:59 ◼   ► that they were before I always use this word to me it epitomizes the sense of [TS]

01:36:05 ◼   ► comradery between the heroes of the original trilogy it's this palpable [TS]

01:36:11 ◼   ► sense of camaraderie which i think is so hard to capture in movies I feel like TV [TS]

01:36:17 ◼   ► shows do a better job of it because can do a better job of it because they have [TS]

01:36:21 ◼   ► so much more time right if you watch Mad Men for six seasons there's a [TS]

01:36:25 ◼   ► camaraderie between Roger and done because they've been through so much [TS]

01:36:30 ◼   ► together because we've seen them through I don't know a hundred and forty hours [TS]

01:36:36 ◼   ► of television whereas for Star Wars to have gotten to this palpable sense of [TS]

01:36:41 ◼   ► camaraderie between these characters that you truly believe it after just you [TS]

01:36:46 ◼   ► know two hours and 15 minutes of of them so far when honda says you know they say [TS]

01:36:54 ◼   ► you're never going to survive the main you as well then I'll see you in hell [TS]

01:36:56 ◼   ► you just believe it I believed it as a kid I'd still it chokes me up I get a [TS]

01:37:01 ◼   ► lump in my throat when I when he does that when I want you to feel to me like [TS]

01:37:05 ◼   ► it's the it's not just [TS]

01:37:06 ◼   ► serving the story it's that's what this guy would of course he's going of course [TS]

01:37:11 ◼   ► what else is unity and the way bill that camaraderie is you have to have the [TS]

01:37:16 ◼   ► people the ensemble cast you have to have them not sort of come together and [TS]

01:37:23 ◼   ► just be friends from the beginning of the you need to have them be like at [TS]

01:37:27 ◼   ► odds over certain things and have them but heads about those things and come to [TS]

01:37:32 ◼   ► some entries all those things but come to an understanding about those things [TS]

01:37:35 ◼   ► whatever things they disagree on I'm totally into the forest think it's great [TS]

01:37:39 ◼   ► you think it's hokey and with the rebellion you're not so sure about it [TS]

01:37:43 ◼   ► you know I'm hot I'm more calm like whatever think whatever personality [TS]

01:37:49 ◼   ► traits that you know don't mesh you have to show them clashing and you have to [TS]

01:37:54 ◼   ► show that they threw things become more important they they come to an [TS]

01:37:58 ◼   ► understanding about those differences in become friends and have them that go [TS]

01:38:01 ◼   ► through things like Johnson by men men you had to have them go through the [TS]

01:38:05 ◼   ► moment where they succeed in business [TS]

01:38:07 ◼   ► failing to score was one person is vulnerable because he's drunk and says [TS]

01:38:10 ◼   ► something the other person to have one or two true moments between people and [TS]

01:38:13 ◼   ► have like are you can even on a TV series you could have a misunderstanding [TS]

01:38:17 ◼   ► your betrayal that eventually you know they they figure out how to work out [TS]

01:38:21 ◼   ► like you have so much more time to have those things but in stars of the [TS]

01:38:25 ◼   ► ensemble cast in the first movie you throw these guys together didn't know [TS]

01:38:28 ◼   ► what to make of each other day probably never seen anybody like each other and [TS]

01:38:31 ◼   ► it's only characters in the next and that you know that obi-wan is there and [TS]

01:38:34 ◼   ► honest just you know gonna do a job that you know kind of steel city's people in [TS]

01:38:40 ◼   ► the old guys weird he dies in the book there when the old guy dies like you [TS]

01:38:44 ◼   ► have to have that I think the promise lot of ensemble movies the more modern [TS]

01:38:47 ◼   ► ones is your throat again this group of attractive personable well-adjusted [TS]

01:38:51 ◼   ► smart witty people and they just kind of walk parallel to each other side by side [TS]

01:38:56 ◼   ► through the plot and that does not build camaraderie yes icon it's very clear I [TS]

01:39:01 ◼   ► cause I just watched a new hope [TS]

01:39:02 ◼   ► recently and [TS]

01:39:03 ◼   ► it's very clear how and when he first meets them he just doesn't even believe [TS]

01:39:07 ◼   ► him he doesn't believe he doesn't know what the hell kind trouble there but he [TS]

01:39:10 ◼   ► it just is is cynical self things whatever problem whatever it is they [TS]

01:39:15 ◼   ► want me to take them to all around for its no big deal they're telling me it's [TS]

01:39:18 ◼   ► the Empire I've trust me I've seen trouble with the Empire this is bullshit [TS]

01:39:21 ◼   ► he doesn't believe I'm going until the 22 starters yeah actually they mentioned [TS]

01:39:26 ◼   ► in the cantina all he's thinking about is ripping them off and vastly over [TS]

01:39:32 ◼   ► charging that the incumbent upset about Empire so on is doing the thing where [TS]

01:39:38 ◼   ► he's talking to them and negotiate the price and Lucas being a good negotiator [TS]

01:39:43 ◼   ► and obi-wan stranded you know to calm down market outright they both leave the [TS]

01:39:47 ◼   ► table what you're left with a nap I think at that point you seen on a [TS]

01:39:51 ◼   ► greater and I have a neighbor you saw on dealing with these guys as like I've got [TS]

01:39:55 ◼   ► a passionate peres as soon as they leave the table he talks too chewy [TS]

01:39:59 ◼   ► person-to-person with his true self these guys me yes and at that point when [TS]

01:40:04 ◼   ► you see him talking with his true self you realize this guy's not such a [TS]

01:40:07 ◼   ► hardass right he's clearly cat cares for you to have a real relationship with [TS]

01:40:13 ◼   ► each other he doesn't talk to Julie like hired help you don't have a block behind [TS]

01:40:16 ◼   ► his bluster and everything with you as you know that sort of like this a heart [TS]

01:40:19 ◼   ► of gold inside the scoundrel so that's up from the very beginning and that's [TS]

01:40:24 ◼   ► why that's how it works out it's not like this guy as you know a hard ass and [TS]

01:40:28 ◼   ► then suddenly turned over a new leaf the whole movie is he's had this conflict [TS]

01:40:32 ◼   ► about I have to show that I'm tough on the outside but on the inside I'm [TS]

01:40:36 ◼   ► sentence all is going well just also that the sense that he's in some [TS]

01:40:42 ◼   ► financial trouble too bad but that's almost immediately after this after [TS]

01:40:49 ◼   ► their destructive you show up and then the next time we disagreed with me [TS]

01:41:00 ◼   ► that's kind of the circuit leading Indian Johnson Council blended a lot on [TS]

01:41:03 ◼   ► my mind is the kid because there's a lot of crossover in terms of Harrison Ford [TS]

01:41:07 ◼   ► playing the kind of you know going to talk his way out of a jam type of thing [TS]

01:41:12 ◼   ► he'll find his way out of a jam in the talks we have jimmy is able to do both [TS]

01:41:15 ◼   ► and he'll switch between [TS]

01:41:16 ◼   ► based on the situation eventually doesn't shoot nobody tried to talk his [TS]

01:41:20 ◼   ► way out first and if that doesn't work he setting up his shooting and I think [TS]

01:41:24 ◼   ► I'm getting my own self point but I think that's why it's ok that shoots [TS]

01:41:29 ◼   ► first is that she really did try to get out of there without any trouble and [TS]

01:41:33 ◼   ► only when it became really clear that greeted was just gonna shoot him and as [TS]

01:41:38 ◼   ► you say that sets up his moral journey that he is slightly more immoral the [TS]

01:41:43 ◼   ► beginning of the movie like I just care about he's trying to is trying to put up [TS]

01:41:46 ◼   ► a front that says I'm tough I only care about myself it's not true but that's [TS]

01:41:51 ◼   ► the front is trying to put up later I don't care about your ability and he can [TS]

01:41:54 ◼   ► actually stick to that but he's totally willing to shoot first cuz that's what [TS]

01:41:58 ◼   ► he's he's play acting the tough guy that he wishes he himself into a corner might [TS]

01:42:03 ◼   ► be in touch and it has to agree to its common like the guy in the store [TS]

01:42:09 ◼   ► industry doing this job i think is 11 seen an empire that I think really [TS]

01:42:19 ◼   ► speaks to this aspect of Hon which is easier to see if luke and looks been [TS]

01:42:24 ◼   ► rehabilitated in that and it back to tank and is about to go out in this snow [TS]

01:42:28 ◼   ► speeder to try to slow down the Imperial assault meanwhile highness on top of the [TS]

01:42:37 ◼   ► Falcon came back and asked about you enjoy gives me a big hug and then [TS]

01:42:45 ◼   ► there's just no words spoken between between hunting work they just gonna [TS]

01:42:49 ◼   ► smile at each other and had and it's still it's it's kind of accepting hands [TS]

01:42:57 ◼   ► are Irish led can't say they can't actually say anything but there is this [TS]

01:43:04 ◼   ► just a good connection between them in that 11 at 11 [TS]

01:43:08 ◼   ► there was no intention of choice not to provide any dialogue there is anything [TS]

01:43:13 ◼   ► you could have said what did you think was walking away from a walk away and [TS]

01:43:21 ◼   ► basically stopped by yelling hey but then after after he's got his attention [TS]

01:43:24 ◼   ► that doesn't need to be a big exactly kinda just not exact but it's not even [TS]

01:43:31 ◼   ► that much smoke could be but it is not what they would say that it's like take [TS]

01:43:40 ◼   ► care out there because you are a good friend that I like you [TS]

01:43:42 ◼   ► yes it's it's something like to get so many it still minimal but the way that [TS]

01:43:48 ◼   ► they're communicating its not attack I think it's more like a good training do [TS]

01:43:55 ◼   ► not mean it's not like yeah like this month it's not that it's not only those [TS]

01:44:00 ◼   ► carried and bringing down that wall ever so slightly exotic communicating without [TS]

01:44:07 ◼   ► that will be in the way but if you look on the outside that yes they take that [TS]

01:44:14 ◼   ► but it's it's an interesting contrast with chewy who is the actual toughest of [TS]

01:44:20 ◼   ► the heroes and you know the one with the bourse temper and he's the one who dis [TS]

01:44:25 ◼   ► lets the hugs in touch with his emotions right whales because a friend is out [TS]

01:44:32 ◼   ► there is much more if not feel the need to take them down like right right he [TS]

01:44:39 ◼   ► always lets I was asked to me [TS]

01:44:48 ◼   ► certainly all the way back to earlier in the show and I said that I found in D [TS]

01:44:52 ◼   ► for more disappointing Phantom Menace I agree with your assessment that the [TS]

01:44:57 ◼   ► Phantom Menace had more [TS]

01:44:59 ◼   ► the hope that would be good was bigger than the hope that in my thought might [TS]

01:45:04 ◼   ► my line of thinking on that was simply though that bill Berg it's still a very [TS]

01:45:08 ◼   ► talented filmmaker thought that meant you know there is a good chance it could [TS]

01:45:13 ◼   ► still be a good movie [TS]

01:45:14 ◼   ► whereas by the time Phantom Menace came out because of the special editions I [TS]

01:45:18 ◼   ► was already so deeply pessimistic because almost everything I would say [TS]

01:45:23 ◼   ► like nine out of every 10 changes in the special editions for the worse I just [TS]

01:45:28 ◼   ► made me think this man George Lucas has lost his fucking mind and now he's going [TS]

01:45:32 ◼   ► to make a home movies and everything that I thought would be go wrong because [TS]

01:45:38 ◼   ► of the special editions of the trilogy was exactly what the whole original [TS]

01:45:43 ◼   ► trilogy so I will back it is the only one that survived being special edition [TS]

01:45:49 ◼   ► and and i think is better for it in many ways I think the changes they made him [TS]

01:45:54 ◼   ► special edition pointless they did not need to be made but because empire was [TS]

01:45:59 ◼   ► so perfect so what can you do to it might even find things to put in like [TS]

01:46:05 ◼   ► well how does he get back to start a story we should see that so that stupid [TS]

01:46:10 ◼   ► crap used that is that is stupid but the running down to the hallways of Plant [TS]

01:46:14 ◼   ► City makes it look nice words you can see it when it was always that simple [TS]

01:46:19 ◼   ► exalting has like what can I not do because of budget or technology or time [TS]

01:46:23 ◼   ► or both [TS]

01:46:24 ◼   ► like well I couldn't have things through the windows and paint them all whites [TS]

01:46:26 ◼   ► are put something like that being overweight when I was a kid I didn't [TS]

01:46:31 ◼   ► feel like a wire the walls opaque I thought like this is a weird [TS]

01:46:34 ◼   ► futuristic-looking set where they changed it jumped out to me and she [TS]

01:46:39 ◼   ► didn't make it worse it was it was the movie that didn't get worse for being so [TS]

01:46:43 ◼   ► it didn't get a free because who cares about it like it's my we get to see them [TS]

01:46:46 ◼   ► fly into cloud city doesn't fit in with the rest of the movie that sticks out [TS]

01:46:50 ◼   ► you don't need it but like there was so little they had to do it entirely new [TS]

01:46:54 ◼   ► musical numbers for example you know they weren't that during major plot [TS]

01:46:59 ◼   ► points like having agreed oh shoot it like there was no they didn't load up [TS]

01:47:03 ◼   ► twenty more [TS]

01:47:04 ◼   ► ads in the battlefield I wish I could have more things going on in the [TS]

01:47:09 ◼   ► hospital not doing things and a half thousand was appropriate it was fine you [TS]

01:47:13 ◼   ► don't need to have the background to and then we have a whole other second [TS]

01:47:17 ◼   ► section where we fly around I couldn't be cleaned up the madeleines had a few [TS]

01:47:22 ◼   ► things here and there they showed that I'm getting didn't remember but they [TS]

01:47:29 ◼   ► redid them outlines for wasn't called special edition but they did a [TS]

01:47:32 ◼   ► cleaned-up Effects version of it I don't remember would release it was for maybe [TS]

01:47:35 ◼   ► but they they did go back and clean up a lot of the worst of the optical mapping [TS]

01:47:42 ◼   ► and that was the approach like that's why I kind of had high hopes the special [TS]

01:47:46 ◼   ► missions because it was kind of like it's going to be more of that stuff is [TS]

01:47:49 ◼   ► going to be like things that we're limitations of technology behind with [TS]

01:47:52 ◼   ► the mountain lions were super annoying over there was some of you member but in [TS]

01:47:56 ◼   ► this news feed is used to be able to see through the copied into the slightly [TS]

01:48:00 ◼   ► translucent and opaque now because that's changing the movie and it's a [TS]

01:48:06 ◼   ► special edition like insert entirely new food and I i remember and I believe it [TS]

01:48:12 ◼   ► too as I read that with the mat lines on the space ships like in the dog fighting [TS]

01:48:17 ◼   ► in a new hope when it was theatrically shown originally they might you might [TS]

01:48:23 ◼   ► have to squint see them but just because of the nature between projecting versus [TS]

01:48:27 ◼   ► the home video transfer they were nowhere near as noticeable lot of it was [TS]

01:48:31 ◼   ► really just that it was the first home video transfer was too light they blew [TS]

01:48:35 ◼   ► out the blacks whereas everything looked at it was a lot richer black it wasn't [TS]

01:48:40 ◼   ► like wow I don't remember seeing those lines around type theater fighters when [TS]

01:48:43 ◼   ► I was a kid who didnt yeah but anyway that was my tears I tend to mean nothing [TS]

01:48:50 ◼   ► epitomizes it more than the hot-shooting first and I know it's a cliche I know [TS]

01:48:54 ◼   ► it's like a super popular t-shirt shop first [TS]

01:48:58 ◼   ► but I feel like it's one of those things that it's a cliche because it really [TS]

01:49:02 ◼   ► does it it's a way to just put your finger on everything that's wrong with [TS]

01:49:06 ◼   ► the special editions because it seems to me this is where I put it is it's almost [TS]

01:49:11 ◼   ► as though like if George Lucas its old star wars to Disney in ninety-three and [TS]

01:49:16 ◼   ► end is needed the exact same things you'd be like oh my god [TS]

01:49:21 ◼   ► corporation doesn't know jack shit I don't even understand Star Wars and [TS]

01:49:25 ◼   ► ruining this great then it's almost mind-boggling that it was all done by [TS]

01:49:30 ◼   ► the guy who made it makes sense to me because the guy who made it got older [TS]

01:49:35 ◼   ► the same thing that happened on the walkie talkies ETV it's like about both [TS]

01:49:38 ◼   ► people are like I'm I'm very well known for this famous movie now I'm an older [TS]

01:49:42 ◼   ► person and when I go back and look at the movie and I made when I was younger [TS]

01:49:45 ◼   ► man I i feel differently about it and if I was making it today would make it [TS]

01:49:48 ◼   ► differently and I feel it's it's too harsh for 400 should first be as hot as [TS]

01:49:53 ◼   ► sympathetic character and you start our driver and like the whole lesson for [TS]

01:49:58 ◼   ► this is fine then make a different movie now this is the movie you made when you [TS]

01:50:02 ◼   ► were a young man and a young man and if you go back and change that like that is [TS]

01:50:09 ◼   ► the worst movies like I know that you have changed if you have changed making [TS]

01:50:13 ◼   ► new art that expresses where you are today but don't and the fact that his [TS]

01:50:17 ◼   ► contemporary spielberg did the same thing with et oh it's too upsetting that [TS]

01:50:20 ◼   ► the people chasing after you have shotguns put a walkie-talkie in there [TS]

01:50:23 ◼   ► that's how you feel now is a 56 year old man butt kicking back and change a thing [TS]

01:50:28 ◼   ► you made when you did you go back and change that back to guns and he's also [TS]

01:50:33 ◼   ► you know George it's the same impulse because the people who made the movie [TS]

01:50:39 ◼   ► got older and they still have the creative control to say you know what I [TS]

01:50:43 ◼   ► want to make a new version this movie that better reflects Who I am today and [TS]

01:50:46 ◼   ► make a new movie for you are then when you were a different person and I agree [TS]

01:50:54 ◼   ► with both of you are saying the same thing which is that [TS]

01:50:56 ◼   ► you know you would have to write an entirely different scene tonight because [TS]

01:51:02 ◼   ► the thing if you if you've seen the film even once you can see that that he tries [TS]

01:51:06 ◼   ► to talk his way out of it he realizes he doesn't end there is no way out for him [TS]

01:51:10 ◼   ► other than to shoot credo is going to kill him right now over my dead body [TS]

01:51:14 ◼   ► that's the idea I mean he's prepping he's he's a Cajun person he's prepping [TS]

01:51:19 ◼   ► for the whole time hes like he's not going to say oh after I feel talk myself [TS]

01:51:22 ◼   ► out of it then think of a plan B plan B is already ready already be ready cuz [TS]

01:51:26 ◼   ► that's how he lived this long in this business it feels like a change that was [TS]

01:51:29 ◼   ► mandated by like Disney corporate you know like we we can't have a hero shoot [TS]

01:51:34 ◼   ► first [TS]

01:51:35 ◼   ► barely can be to take out the blackface well I'm just upset about I'm just say [TS]

01:51:45 ◼   ► no it feels like somebody outside the film who hadn't even seen it is just [TS]

01:51:49 ◼   ► holding up a check lock necklace that says heroes can't do this I feel like [TS]

01:51:54 ◼   ► somebody from like there what is that thing the something parents association [TS]

01:51:58 ◼   ► is right to the SEC to sort of like an old person who was like Oh kids these [TS]

01:52:05 ◼   ► days and they're cursing and baggy pants and we really need to stop and money [TS]

01:52:09 ◼   ► like that type of that type of idea that older people who are uncomfortable with [TS]

01:52:14 ◼   ► things that younger people think are cool I guess you know it's just too [TS]

01:52:19 ◼   ► harsh and for that character feels like Han Solo is is a lovable likable good [TS]

01:52:23 ◼   ► character and he would never do something that bad whereas younger [TS]

01:52:26 ◼   ► filmmaker anyone who would like to say is good people do bad things people grow [TS]

01:52:30 ◼   ► the same reason you know that he was like when he was younger and less wise [TS]

01:52:36 ◼   ► and you know and when I made the movie that's the character I made and now on [TS]

01:52:40 ◼   ► is older and more wise and kinder and he has changed but you can't retroactive to [TS]

01:52:43 ◼   ► go back to make yourself it's like retroactive going back in your own life [TS]

01:52:46 ◼   ► and not do stupid things when you're a teenager that's part of who you are [TS]

01:52:51 ◼   ► we haven't spoken much about Return of the Jedi just the opening where Luke you [TS]

01:52:57 ◼   ► know sort of such an airline and maybe what I would do in terms of the dark [TS]

01:53:04 ◼   ► side so that movie that movie I think the more I watch it as I get older the [TS]

01:53:10 ◼   ► more I like yeah I don't love it and it's nowhere near it doesn't make me [TS]

01:53:14 ◼   ► anywhere near as happy as Star Wars or Empire does but I almost feel like I [TS]

01:53:18 ◼   ► don't know how else so I put it above stores for me just because it's like [TS]

01:53:30 ◼   ► Empire took up to the next level say here's a movie this appreciate for all [TS]

01:53:33 ◼   ► ages [TS]

01:53:34 ◼   ► sophisticated story emotion things for adults in it and also kids will love it [TS]

01:53:39 ◼   ► that brought up to the adult level Jedi things back down a little bit with the [TS]

01:53:43 ◼   ► UART business but I feel like the culmination of the arc how this story [TS]

01:53:46 ◼   ► ends with the whole angled like Luke movie heroes never do which is pacifism [TS]

01:53:52 ◼   ► is the victory like that never happened pacifist are wimps nobody want to pass [TS]

01:53:57 ◼   ► by John McClain to shoot the guy you want the cop who is guilty about [TS]

01:54:02 ◼   ► shooting and drop drop drop him off the roof the cop who felt bad you couldn't [TS]

01:54:07 ◼   ► pick up is gonna get a shot that kid to get his gun back and say now I'm [TS]

01:54:11 ◼   ► confident that I can shoot people again like pacifism never wins can you think [TS]

01:54:15 ◼   ► of any other movie anywhere where pacifism least get the kind of a junk [TS]

01:54:20 ◼   ► bond trader does that thing maybe guys like you know like that is the struggle [TS]

01:54:27 ◼   ► the end it is a sophisticated struggle in emotional struggle between Luke not [TS]

01:54:33 ◼   ► giving in to his anger and fighting fighting Vader and the moment when when [TS]

01:54:38 ◼   ► Luke is winning the fight which is what you want the good guy to do in most [TS]

01:54:41 ◼   ► movies gives you rooting for the tide beat the bad guy good guy beat the dog [TS]

01:54:44 ◼   ► may be down for the count could go beyond the report is gonna come back and [TS]

01:54:48 ◼   ► he's strong he's going to be the bad guy that's when that's happening in general [TS]

01:54:52 ◼   ► I that's the best you like no don't do [TS]

01:54:55 ◼   ► bring little kids along and that journey to bring little kids along to the point [TS]

01:55:01 ◼   ► where they're sad when the good guys beating the bad guy I think it's a nice [TS]

01:55:06 ◼   ► message I think it's a message that it never ever seen and I think the [TS]

01:55:09 ◼   ► sophistication of that culmination yes they do blockbuster game but the [TS]

01:55:12 ◼   ► sophistication of the resolution of her story [TS]

01:55:16 ◼   ► elevates the rest of that movie ok I so I totally agree with you in terms of [TS]

01:55:21 ◼   ► Luke sorry and yes that is the most satisfactory and ultimately teams they [TS]

01:55:27 ◼   ► do and always good to know you don't think that it's not just you care about [TS]

01:55:39 ◼   ► you know how you can do is find someone else to ship you can't like the three [TS]

01:55:44 ◼   ► fronts thing people down the planet people in the space station in the Death [TS]

01:55:48 ◼   ► Star the coordination between those three lines of action is I think very [TS]

01:55:52 ◼   ► well done I tend to do him any other movies I think this is you know in a [TS]

01:55:57 ◼   ► modern devices like that all the time the multiple lines of action culminating [TS]

01:56:00 ◼   ► round one thing but this was an early occurrence and I think the balance [TS]

01:56:04 ◼   ► between the three parlance is this just very nice sometimes when they're not [TS]

01:56:08 ◼   ► that interested but at least it's all connected in a way that you understand [TS]

01:56:11 ◼   ► it but it is so if anything it could just as well I'm just going to say that [TS]

01:56:18 ◼   ► it makes sense not scientifically not like you're really trying to think it [TS]

01:56:22 ◼   ► through but if you just go with the flow of Star Wars level logic makes sense [TS]

01:56:26 ◼   ► that all three things are simultaneously yeah I mean just as an avid relying on [TS]

01:56:32 ◼   ► each other like this this this cast that we've come to know and if they've been [TS]

01:56:35 ◼   ► with each other they're ensemble cast their friends they are spread out to [TS]

01:56:40 ◼   ► different missions for this final battle here and there are relying entirely upon [TS]

01:56:44 ◼   ► doesn't get that she'll down they can't do the attack and if it doesn't hamper [TS]

01:56:48 ◼   ► inside there doesn't matter because you know if he gets turned then the globe [TS]

01:56:52 ◼   ► this star but then they have a problem anyway the Emperor will survive the only [TS]

01:56:55 ◼   ► person killed the Emperor's mayor so they're all depend on each other and [TS]

01:56:59 ◼   ► their leverage of Emperor saying all your friends out that you think there we [TS]

01:57:03 ◼   ► know about their plan they're screwed like it all so I [TS]

01:57:07 ◼   ► completely against the the last thirty second half of them is great he's [TS]

01:57:15 ◼   ► amazing [TS]

01:57:16 ◼   ► the ship battles good surprise appearance at the bulk of the [TS]

01:57:21 ◼   ► beautifully amazing the shield being up and all of those ships have dodged [TS]

01:57:25 ◼   ► amazing everything's great and love it and you told anybody coming together [TS]

01:57:30 ◼   ► generated me start so the world's most inane [TS]

01:57:36 ◼   ► repeatedly plan of leg what the hell are you doing so you can you give the Droid [TS]

01:57:42 ◼   ► 2 job and you've got Lando embedded and then you handle that then wait and you [TS]

01:57:52 ◼   ► had to redo baka and then you try to get released but here's the thing and you [TS]

01:58:03 ◼   ► you thought you were going at dragged her son so that aren't EDT would be [TS]

01:58:07 ◼   ► serving drinks and jettison like a lightsaber to use you could not have it [TS]

01:58:13 ◼   ► is the stupidest plan in their outgunned right because the people are going after [TS]

01:58:18 ◼   ► Han is not the entire day coming down right and so they can frontal assault is [TS]

01:58:25 ◼   ► not going to work so they seem to have planned abcd to have a lot of things [TS]

01:58:30 ◼   ► going on here there people in better there they have the droids [TS]

01:58:33 ◼   ► goes there like he's planned you know he's prob his primary plans for you you [TS]

01:58:38 ◼   ► know talked his way we can get maybe we can get him out with these guys were [TS]

01:58:40 ◼   ► embedded if they can't send in Luke but don't send in the lightsaber because [TS]

01:58:43 ◼   ► Lucas group we need to have a viable so smuggled out and are too right it's a [TS]

01:58:48 ◼   ► lot of contingency plans and basically all their continued season needed to be [TS]

01:58:52 ◼   ► there because everything goes wrong and they're at the brink of death and their [TS]

01:58:56 ◼   ► final continues he was looking get out of this paper we do have his lightsaber [TS]

01:59:01 ◼   ► like yeah I don't see them as contingencies so much is likely going to [TS]

01:59:04 ◼   ► set up a bunch of things that may be useful and maybe it'll all work out but [TS]

01:59:09 ◼   ► that's a good opening seems like a good bond opening scene it's like it yes [TS]

01:59:13 ◼   ► exactly [TS]

01:59:16 ◼   ► mind opening scene is a little bit contrived but you get to see you got to [TS]

01:59:19 ◼   ► resolve the movie and second of all it's it's like a series of fun action set [TS]

01:59:25 ◼   ► pieces it's like you know three bond you've got the satellite pit and then [TS]

01:59:32 ◼   ► you've got a lot of like entry good people in this sadly sorry gonna keep [TS]

01:59:36 ◼   ► the only Star Wars movie that doesn't have any scenes on Tatooine [TS]

01:59:42 ◼   ► right and here they are back on Tatooine and instead of feeling at that time [TS]

01:59:47 ◼   ► because at that point fifty percent of All Star Wars movies had scenes on [TS]

01:59:51 ◼   ► Tatooine just just the one here it is it it felt like a you know started on [TS]

01:59:58 ◼   ► Tatooine need to know shit about the force now he's back on Tatooine and he's [TS]

02:00:01 ◼   ► felt like a closer just closing the loop on high on being kidnapped and frozen in [TS]

02:00:08 ◼   ► carbonite your closing the loop on Luke's childhood my setup the rest of [TS]

02:00:15 ◼   ► the arc of the movie though because he the end of empire and he's defeated [TS]

02:00:19 ◼   ► hands cut off is a mess emotionally to stand out various father he is at his [TS]

02:00:24 ◼   ► low you see him and just like who is this guy was drenched in sweat with his [TS]

02:00:29 ◼   ► hand cut off and with my crap now these guys confidently strolling into here [TS]

02:00:33 ◼   ► behind strangling people that's going in he's like super powerful like wow I [TS]

02:00:40 ◼   ► guess his his art is done and you find out his art is not done because what [TS]

02:00:44 ◼   ► he's going to deal with now is also you think you're the master even know what [TS]

02:00:48 ◼   ► the actual battle is against your nature of not using your newfound powers for [TS]

02:00:52 ◼   ► evil that is the actual bed and that's why he goes back to you it is like how [TS]

02:00:55 ◼   ► you think your agenda I'd know you have to face murder why does it matter it's [TS]

02:00:59 ◼   ► not like some trial and you had to understanding of music is like you had [TS]

02:01:03 ◼   ► to face better because that shows you the best guy because you have to you [TS]

02:01:08 ◼   ► have to deal with the whole dark side angle like to remember your failure in [TS]

02:01:11 ◼   ► the cave you have to pay spader to show that you really do you really are on the [TS]

02:01:15 ◼   ► light side of the force and not the dark side the only way to do this a test [TS]

02:01:18 ◼   ► yourself against someone that you totally want to kill and not do it I [TS]

02:01:23 ◼   ► agree with a guy that logically probably should've gone in with them [TS]

02:01:28 ◼   ► you know that the whole idea that instead of going with the lady bra [TS]

02:01:32 ◼   ► smuggling in our two and I'll just assume that if and when I really need it [TS]

02:01:36 ◼   ► will be in because if he's gotta kill every man woman and child in Jabba's [TS]

02:01:41 ◼   ► palace is going to run out of there with a gigantic army buddy grab somebody's [TS]

02:01:46 ◼   ► gonna interests of blacks jam in the face that is not nice to tease [TS]

02:01:52 ◼   ► improvising at that point because he's trying to shoot an unknown began in the [TS]

02:01:56 ◼   ► face that is trying to negotiate his way out of this thing and then I go actually [TS]

02:02:01 ◼   ► we're gonna send you into the pit he tries to get out of it like things don't [TS]

02:02:04 ◼   ► go well for him and isn't isn't that the first time in the movies we've skies we [TS]

02:02:08 ◼   ► you know the whole whole original trilogy is relatively light on Jedi [TS]

02:02:13 ◼   ► action you know it's the first time we've seen the Jedi mind trick not work [TS]

02:02:18 ◼   ► and that's what we learn that it only works well no action to force can have a [TS]

02:02:27 ◼   ► powerful influence on the original trilogy really good at paying off things [TS]

02:02:32 ◼   ► are in ways that are not patient about now have something in the beginning of [TS]

02:02:38 ◼   ► the movie and they're going to pay it off at the end of a very really do have [TS]

02:02:41 ◼   ► something in one movie impaled on a second movie and the Star Wars trilogy [TS]

02:02:44 ◼   ► has tons of things in the first movie to do not get paid off until two movies [TS]

02:02:48 ◼   ► later which nobody had the guts to do it may be like the big bucks now that they [TS]

02:02:53 ◼   ► have any but even that is like you're much more sure that they set up so much [TS]

02:02:56 ◼   ► stuff and Jabba the Hutt himself to set up a new hope I would have been in the [TS]

02:03:00 ◼   ► mood to head the tire budget didn't put him in the second movie he's in the [TS]

02:03:03 ◼   ► third [TS]

02:03:04 ◼   ► yeah pay off the debt that would remove first scene we meet Han Solo 40 minutes [TS]

02:03:10 ◼   ► in a new hope we don't pay it off until Dec 22 ya know they say that death was [TS]

02:03:20 ◼   ► the general says I get that sense yet but I don't mention [TS]

02:03:25 ◼   ► and I think Luke's idea that hey I'll try the Jedi mind trick on maybe this [TS]

02:03:32 ◼   ► would be easy job of it you have to end up puncturing looks company comes in as [TS]

02:03:41 ◼   ► a dark hooded figure who could this be a Nike works any super confident you'll [TS]

02:03:45 ◼   ► give it to me and I congratulate things fall apart but he gets kinda like how we [TS]

02:03:49 ◼   ► do it you know same as usual and that bad huh [TS]

02:03:51 ◼   ► that point like his his confidence in boston has been pierced his back to the [TS]

02:03:56 ◼   ► old like a balloon was like well he's more powerful now but things really are [TS]

02:04:00 ◼   ► going well in the gym and that's what said yeah yeah yeah [TS]

02:04:13 ◼   ► his twisted headed consiglio yeah I'm sure people yelling at us right now my [TS]

02:04:20 ◼   ► only problem with the opening scene which I agree piecewise even more than [TS]

02:04:24 ◼   ► the battle which is almost more of like an opening act because it involves [TS]

02:04:28 ◼   ► everything from you know getting captured by the way to the whole battle [TS]

02:04:34 ◼   ► that to me that the job is seen pace wise feels like a blonde my way that [TS]

02:04:44 ◼   ► both yes No [TS]

02:04:47 ◼   ► good says this is not a sign of things to come home which is a little respect [TS]

02:04:56 ◼   ► that well I just don't understand you know they knew they knew there was a lot [TS]

02:05:08 ◼   ► of slapstick humor and slapstick that which i think for the most part works [TS]

02:05:13 ◼   ► but the fact that bubble that gets wrapped up in a slapstick and that ends [TS]

02:05:17 ◼   ► up being his death is a shame he's the only guy that can go toe-to-toe with the [TS]

02:05:20 ◼   ► Jetta and he looks normal he's crafty and waiting for a moment like he's [TS]

02:05:27 ◼   ► established is not the toughest found 200 but the smartest the street exactly [TS]

02:05:32 ◼   ► an empire that establishes and he doesn't even get taken out my purpose [TS]

02:05:36 ◼   ► taken out by a blind and he either should not have been there at all and [TS]

02:05:44 ◼   ► just leave you know he's not there or he should have gotten away [TS]

02:05:47 ◼   ► well I mean I'm ok with cutting his gun in half because like well you up against [TS]

02:05:51 ◼   ► a Jedi [TS]

02:05:51 ◼   ► that can happen I'm not OK with the way he died but they made it even worse by [TS]

02:05:58 ◼   ► having him into their musical scene that they acted like they just keep making [TS]

02:06:02 ◼   ► bombs if it well they did in the original run he just gives the little [TS]

02:06:06 ◼   ► not the sexy girl dancing yeah yeah you know and listening even get into Jango [TS]

02:06:16 ◼   ► Fett no character well you know and the only thing I'll say about returning to [TS]

02:06:26 ◼   ► me the weak spot is the whole thing on and/or moon then it doesn't and it's it [TS]

02:06:37 ◼   ► partly just that the Holy walk there was where the merchandising started getting [TS]

02:06:41 ◼   ► out of hand because it was like have you heard this I don't know how much this [TS]

02:06:46 ◼   ► apocryphal and I'm which is true but that the toys that already been put into [TS]

02:06:49 ◼   ► production before they made the costumes in the costumes were like just [TS]

02:06:53 ◼   ► incredibly hot and just get really limited actors ability to move that's [TS]

02:06:59 ◼   ► why they just sort of water that a walk [TS]

02:07:02 ◼   ► hadn't heard that I had heard that eventually is going to be too pushy yeah [TS]

02:07:08 ◼   ► yeah well which would have been a lot cooler but you will get a constructive [TS]

02:07:12 ◼   ► you can't believe that right and there's just a silliness to it that these little [TS]

02:07:17 ◼   ► furry you know to talk creatures are beating stormtroopers literally I do [TS]

02:07:22 ◼   ► like the insurgents people insurgent one of the characters that are mostly for [TS]

02:07:31 ◼   ► kids and don't have much value for adults I do like the notion that you [TS]

02:07:36 ◼   ► represent nature the imperial troops represent I get some kind of [TS]

02:07:42 ◼   ► technological terror acts like an insurgent force against yes much more [TS]

02:07:47 ◼   ► dominant military force the fact that insurgents could ya its native American [TS]

02:07:52 ◼   ► Union [TS]

02:07:56 ◼   ► the same type of territory that was tried much more seriously about star [TS]