00:00:00 ◼ ► what kind of microphones you have I know you were gonna give me like how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► improve my audio some help a lot of gun and we never followed through what kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► of liked you so I have I i have both of the ones that everyone says are the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► mics for this purpose I have the higher PR 4210 businessman and all those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/13">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► use and I have the Shure sm57 be and I prefer the shower before the voice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/17">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► the shower that the high appear before he makes people sound a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/22">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► nasal and has like weird it's like it's missing like the mid base but it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/25">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► lot of the lower base so you sound like early BC but but not that present not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/31">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► that warm with it with the pier 40 so that s I'm seven beers is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/36">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► really nice Antimicrob the best sounding like the purpose but has the giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/41">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► asterisk that it needs a really nice and generally very expensive preemptive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/45">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► power properly yes crew that that's what I use of course the old rode podcaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/49">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► which is probably why don't I can I guess I can do better you could i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/58">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► there's a question how much it matters because your show has guests attended at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/63">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► that rotate out every week like you don't want to sound of that different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/67">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► from the guests now there have been a lot of episodes your show where I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/71">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► you somewhere in the guests but that might be because of a clear dq going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/74">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► or something else going on there might be something else in the process being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/78">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► not that great I don't know how do you talking to you might I keep the mic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/82">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► underneath my face like I'm not it's sticking straight up and I'm close to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/89">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► mouth but I have it wear it underneath my my face it more or less like my chin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/95">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► and going down you're doing it wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► yeah it's like staring right into it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/103">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► yeah pretty much like my end and it's over smile because I have the crazy low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/106">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► output as I'm so maybe I am like my lips are almost touching the popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/111">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► sometimes they do touch the popular I'm like right on top of it talking directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/116">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► see what happened I'm asking all these questions cuz they came in I spent a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/122">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► chunk of the holidays not working in my home office was downstairs dining room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/126">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► you know you know part of the family and I came up to record the Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/131">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► episode of the show with circus in guy I was good I thought I would hate that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/143">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► was so long I don't care that much about Star Wars but that was actually really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/151">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► good I really enjoyed listening to the compliments from people who said I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/154">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► even like Star Wars but I like that show that to me was that kid that meant that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/157">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► it came out the way I wanted it to I came up to my office and the mic mic arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/162">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► was on the ground in front of my desk and I thought I knew I didn't put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/166">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► there and Amy required her show up here and I didn't think she'd recorded or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/171">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► episode recently but I thought it must have been hurt as it winding roads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/175">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► disconnected from the desk and put it on the floor and I was a little annoyed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/179">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► then I looked and have it was the fact that the are mounted broken it just so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/184">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► could just write really think right where the clamp goes on the desk just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/188">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► like a stress fracture pressure which kind of makes sense because it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/192">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► know supports a fair amount of weight and I it's the same arm that I had had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/196">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► ever since I started doing the first run of the show which i think is a 2007 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/200">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► but anyway how to get a new podcast arm and of course I didn't set up until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/206">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► right when we were supposed to record and i'm looking at the instructions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/213">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► it's like wow they're showing me this at this my government of varied and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/217">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► doing wrong i mean certain mics are made to be addressed like on the side but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/226">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► that's not one of them yeah but I'm not talking into the side I am talking into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/231">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► the top of it all your kind of talking like over the top of the league playoff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/235">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► yeah exactly exactly maybe I could try to fix it right now it seems to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/238">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► if I do it their way and it's been I'm gonna be seen will be able to see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/246">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► my computer and you can look through them like through the arm and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/249">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► look you know I mean yeah I don't know something is this any better and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/254">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► not a huge difference to the different if this if you see here a terrible noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/265">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► and intuitive I mean the road podcaster is not an amazing Mike like you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/271">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► going to see you never gonna send amazing from it but you can sound good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/278">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► enough from it can get things going on tonight so make for an excellent idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/281">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► broadcast right now it's all floppy these things are also the road boom arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/290">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► that I assume yours and I'm also getting one it's not the best army it did is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/302">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► it's pretty shitty hike it works like like mine like any slight vibration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/306">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► anywhere in the desk anything a spring inside the armed rattles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/312">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► completely opposite of the kind of thing as opposed to do just like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/317">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► haven't ever replace did because I like you know it's not broken yet it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/322">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► works but I even had the thought when I had to reorganize had order when I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/326">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► went to Amazon and I saw that it said road now that I've got a ride like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/331">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► old one was a high as I planted yeah that's how to people that are no right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/334">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► and even though I like I said it was seven years old and I started I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/342">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► really angry that it broke I still feel like well broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/347">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► so I just bought the road but then I had this in it was one of those things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/350">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► you know you Amazon makes it so easy so that's my thought process my thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/356">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► process was not a hostile already have a road like and it looked highly rated on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/360">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► Amazon and so like two clicks later it was on its way and so then with a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/367">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► bit of thought I thought maybe I should have taken the usual basin has Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/372">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► that's what I'm using the exact same on the road you know P S whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/376">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► really are meeting in the same one I just because they had Pakistani I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/382">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► I bought the kit for five by five and then I upgraded my mic but never created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/387">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► a boom arm because it still works the desk lamp does looks dirtier than I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/391">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► like the hospital after having looked at it as I can kind of surprised it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/394">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► happen right away I don't really know where the road one would break looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/398">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► at the construction like you know what I don't know what part of this would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► the weak point but I don't think I mean I I think it's more likely that like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/406">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► of the springs in the armored snap and would lose tension and just drop to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/412">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► likely to fail yeah actually starting to happen with my holiday was starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/416">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► starting to lose intention and I could not there's no way to leak just that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/421">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► turn is weird screws on the on the on the arm but I don't have to do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/426">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► what are these straps for those are for attaching the cable like you basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/430">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► attacks the cable to the arm on its way down using those so that way you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/437">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► have a nice tidy cable going down to the base of the arm would be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/443">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► alright anyway quite weak for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/448">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► nothing's ever going on for the records leader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/456">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► recording on Thursday that aids which is a night after you recorded ATP whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/461">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► presume you talked about skipping through go talk about tonight but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/467">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► couldn't have listened to it because I didn't catch the live broadcast but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/470">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► people like you they want to talk about choice should be alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/476">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► when did you publish your piece Sunday yeah we're Sunday night part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/480">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► problem I think was that I i published it on a Sunday night right before a ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/486">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► is a holiday vacation for a lot of people was ending and there's nothing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/493">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► the news right and so a lot of places that picked up a lot of you for telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/497">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► me like yet nevertheless things like at that time because like people are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/502">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► desperate for news at somebody's bigger sites that like you know there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/507">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► going on in tech you know random Monday mean CES was starting but nothing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/511">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► nothing has been announced have any meaning yet and so does seem like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/516">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► couldn't possibly have worse timing if I didn't want it to be that noticed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/523">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► if you had published the exact same piece word-for-word not changed one bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/527">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► but maybe on Wednesday it might've you know I think it would have gotten the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/532">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► attention it deserves but it wouldn't have gotten the attention it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/539">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► yeah that's basically at a mean like it I mean honestly didn't deserve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/545">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► attention it got it wasn't good like that's the regret having that it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/549">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► like it was nowhere near my best work it was it was just I didn't put enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/556">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► effort into it I made a bunch of little mistakes in it and it wasn't very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/562">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► and then for that to become extremely widespread and to have it be under quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/566">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► a bit of scrutiny that is just frustrating yeah so for the record in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/572">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► extemporaneously like you know people who listen when this episode first comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/580">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► out we're talking about but for the record we should say what it was which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/583">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► is that on Sunday you published an article titled headlined Apple has lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/587">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► the functional high ground and I think if I may not show summary is you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/592">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► detected that over the last few years the quality of Apple's software has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/599">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► correct not any one particular thing just in general and that it concerns you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/605">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► about the future of company and it's the reason you switch to the Mac in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/611">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► first place a decade ago is that you were sick of having little stupid things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/615">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► like little annoying bugs here there everywhere all day long that it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/619">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► works factors sort of fading from Apple's software platforms right and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/625">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► lot of the lot of the pushback I mean the reason it spread so quickly so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/631">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► incredibly quickly but it had hundreds of retweets within a few hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/636">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► publishing it and then it spread from there the reason it spread i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/640">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► because a lot of people agree on a lot of people still argue with that of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/646">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► course but I think if I was totally wrong it wouldn't have spread you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/650">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► it's not accomplishing this on some major news site where people like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/655">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► would make fun of me and I got it wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► like it was my personal site like it's not widely read most of the time and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/660">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► you know I don't think it would have spread if there wasn't some truth there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/665">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► yeah I think the word I used and I saw a couple of other people use it I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/669">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► hockenberry did too and I think it's because it's the perfect word that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/674">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► resonated right or hit a nerve one of those I think resonate is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/677">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► another writer I don't know this resonate is exactly what happened it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/684">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► like it felt true more so than but true just felt right and very few people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/690">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► said you are completely wrong most people have just said well I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/697">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► said it differently or isn't as severe as you say which answer and that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/702">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► you know what I regret and you know where my feeling was that I word some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/705">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► things to severely and of course is a frequent problem but so I word things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/711">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► severely and and that detracted from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/718">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► literally of what I wrote but the fact is I think the the overall sentiment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/721">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► Apple software has some quality problems in recent years and it doesn't seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/727">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► be getting better that i think is what resonated with people pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/731">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► unambiguously yeah you do you you have a sort of like a no-nonsense style like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/735">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► about where you certainly aren't doing it you know you're not sensational you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/742">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► don't you don't overstate things for sensational purposes because you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/747">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► looking four hits or pageviews because you don't even have you know you use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/750">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► deck you don't even get paid by pages you know you know you're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/755">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► get extra this month because you had an explosive story this week that got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/758">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► know couple hundred thousand extra pages doesn't give you a nickel right but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/762">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► could actually cost me money if I end up going over some damn with allegations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/765">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► my more popular in article is it actually might cost me more money that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/769">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► funny is actually true right which is the opposite of when you know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/773">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► Dan Lyons trumps up something had Valley way it's because you know they measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/779">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► their success month month by page views you're not in that game you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/784">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► not one that's not the way that it's just sort of a no-nonsense style but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/788">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► know you're right that's what I intended but because I i did i did use like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/794">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► when I wanted examples like I I recently said quality has taken a nosedive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/801">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► that was the wrong word really it hasn't taken a nosedive it's been a gradual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/805">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► decline and what I meant really was a decline that just now in really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/809">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► shape but a nosedive suggests like an acceleration of all the sudden it's now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/812">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► dropping quickly and that's not really the case it's it's more of a gradual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/818">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► progression but anyway so you know there are things like that and an overall I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/821">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► regret having written it simply because it put some of my most mediocre to worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/827">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► work in front of so many people and put my name on it forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/833">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► whereas like I I don't regret having said that Apple has problems I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/838">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► regret that I didn't say it better and what happen is that you it really went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/843">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► explosive I mean you even said I guess it was your Google Analytics but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/848">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► you know you had your analytics showed that it was more popular than anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► you had written in all 2014 correct which is amazing really that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/856">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► five days into the year you've already topped last year it just got picked up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/861">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► good picked up in the relay relay relay and I guess Business Insider got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/865">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► started his their her head yes Apple software is in a quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/871">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► nosedive and quote that is deeply concerning supporters as writing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/875">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► perfect business insider headline right end and the thing is like usually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/883">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► could pick on Business Insider and say you guys are such pieces of shit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/887">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► this because usually they are in this case they really the original version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/890">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► had a couple of like of paraphrases it at that were not what I said that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/895">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► more inflammatory but he he I since complained about the man and he updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/900">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► them to be more accurate so over and the headline like I did say that you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/904">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► didn't really mean to say that severely but I did say that so overall of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/910">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► hack job they've done to me over the years this is one of the better ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/915">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► yeah but it's a guess it's not yet history that as it stands right now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/918">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► it's unfair but it's you know fuel to the fire right and and actually in a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/924">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► a lot of people have no clue how insanely popular and pervasive Business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/932">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► Insider is like whenever and wherever I mention of Business Insider in context I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/939">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► will have everybody who was ever met me my moms friends my friends parents like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/945">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► people who are outside of of the tech news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/953">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► fear they will all contact me and all my god I read this article about you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/956">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► Business Insider you know congratulations are they considered a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► good thing whenever I mention there even though it's always trash like sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/964">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► like when I products will get mentioned in some major tech publication like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/970">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► know macworld or even been like in New York Times Wall Street Journal or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/974">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► never repeat from anybody when I'm in Business Insider for the stupidest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/980">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► smallest thing everyone in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/983">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► Zwart all my god I haven't seen you in 15 years but I read this article about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/986">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► you and Business Insider that site I don't know why it's so popular but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/989">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► really popular and so whenever they write anything about me or my my my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/995">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► products it gets picked up everywhere goods carried everywhere and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► ultimately dictate the narrative if you look like almost every other side that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► republish this article was republished from Business Insider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► wider linking back to Business Insider instead of my site a lot of them were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► taking the Business Insider headlines and quotes word-for-word it really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► Business Insider that that that that led the promotion on this weather willingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► or not I don't know doesn't matter but like people do not realize like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► seeds all the tech sites like whenever you write about something all the texts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► right about a day later Business Insider seeds everything else it's really weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► and and I wish it wasn't that way but it really is it's sort of the opposite of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► my sort of popularity is super niche and so like it is a big deal for some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► like if I link to somebody first time ever linked to their blog a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► people like treat me like oh my god you just made my day and it's hard for me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► i dont im still can't say I've ever used to that but I understand I know I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► was like I know what it was like the first time that Slashdot linked to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► fireball way back in 2002 was just crazy and as i mean that I loved / died but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► it's like I knew that shit that big deal right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► getting on the big front page back in 2006 right I also remember that my site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► didn't go down and it was you know I thought you know I had up until that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► point I had no idea whether you know there is no way for me to fake it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► couldn't you know know if I would survivors I starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► but I don't think like some guy you know somebody wrote a blog post I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► linked to them before i lying to them they're not going to get their mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► calling them and say her side during firebombing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► mom doesn't know who I am neither of them is really cool yeah I mean it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► know if an exception would have to be like you know like Brent Simmons to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► you know I shouldn't say my mom dad anybody who's not in the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► already one of my regular readers whereas Business Insider has a very for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► whatever reason as a very broad readership like a typical people what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► they write goes very far which is unfortunate that so bad usually yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► it's something to do with you know that there are certain brand of socializing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► stuff well look I mean you know that there are there things in the world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► like their choices people can make where you can do things like the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► high-quality morally sound way or you take this one little short cut here if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► you want to give up a little bit of integrity here a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► sensationalism here you can boost your numbers by 15 20 30 percent and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► choose the latter all the time whereas you choose the former and that's what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► consider in our community to be like that the right way to do it if you're if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► you're shameless enough and if if you prioritize numbers and success of the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► a kind over integrity and quality then you can get in see numbers and inseam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► popularity and and they have chosen that and let's not overstate things here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► either they're they're certainly not the worst are there you know and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► thing to have talented people and they have had townspeople damn from were used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► to rate their yeah that's where I met him I used to hate him and then like him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► the Tumblr offices I made their first and then like he left and became a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► normal good person it was amazing and I know JJA ro who wrote this piece on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► you know he's good he's smart you know you could just tell from my reading is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► Nick Carlson who I think his name published a book on Yahoo and Marissa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► Meyer you know he's a good reporter and yes I'll give you know and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► interesting to think I think the success he's having promoting his book I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► reading a lot of stuff about his book it's just popping up a lot of places I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► think it just goes to show that at Business Insider they're good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► promoting stuff including themselves you know like that's part it's not just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► there whether you're good bad or whatever as a writer a reporter being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► able to self promote is a skill and that to me is part of their a big part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► their success yeah yeah absolutely you know and Henry Blodget always had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► founder of the site among some other issues but that's but that's a definite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► thing that you know it's like there's there's certain people like he's good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► getting on TV you know and there's that certain type of wall street person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► is like just goes on CNBC all the time and I would drive me nuts I would hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► going on TV I would think I'd wanna go on once I can't imagine like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► amount of stress that would bring I would I would definitely if I was ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► invited I would definitely decline I've had invitations many times and I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► died I want charlie rose at one time and that was cool and it was also pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► easy because it was like five in the afternoon getting to New York at five in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► the afternoon and super easy I just take like a 1 o'clock train from Philly and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► like going in and anyway so that was that was I had a blast and it was well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► worth you know it wasn't that much of a time commitment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► but I've had offers to go on like Bloomberg TV and it's like you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► want me in New York by like 5 a.m. Eastern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► not gonna work but it really doesn't compute with them that somebody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► not want to be on TV like people who are in TV seem to be people who've whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► they're on there are not like or whether they're just working as like a producer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► whatever it seems like the TV industry is only composed of people who've spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► their whole lives wanting to be in the TV industry can't it just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► compute it it doesn't David they can't grasp but I say you know I really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► think I ever want to be on your show thanks for asking I'm flattered but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► know being in New York by 5 a.m. I don't work well also like it's it's similar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► the to the whole like you know you should do this for exposure kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► arguments like yeah a lot of times they they don't they can't imagine why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► anybody would say no to this great honor their bestowing upon you and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► fact is like there's a cost to you being on TV and there's risks to you being on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► TV and it it just might not be worth it like that's how you know I'm realizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► as I'm as I'm getting older and hopefully wiser but I keep making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► same mistakes over and over again so probably not wiser but as I get older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► I'm realizing that like talking to journalists for interviews for stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► about you know anything like when they call you for a quote or anything like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► is almost never worth agreeing to that because the risk is so high that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► going to distort your words to fit their narrative in a way that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► approve of that that you can't that's totally under control it's like in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► day in age like if I have something to say I can say it on my blog now granted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► that it has the other problem what should happen which is like a better be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► sure I said well there and everything right there can be taken included [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► elsewhere but at least I rooted my way like it seems like less of a risk to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► it that way then like to be quoted in some random news story and like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► no control over that you usually unless you have a very strong relationship with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► unusually you can't get like review review or anything and if somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► screwed up and publish something that you didn't quite say there's nothing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► even if even if the correction the damage is done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► yeah so it's like I'm going on TV is probably even worse because like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► life that you can't even carefully think about your words for very long make your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► life that you need to get a common right now and try to sound smart and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► and everyone's watching you know yeah and it's also it's not leisurely yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► think I I wouldn't say I think I did pretty well on Charlie Rose but they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► never had a member of just like I think I immediately forgot about it so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► couldn't have been good or bad really mean David Pogue talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► iPhone 5 like place it two years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► shows iPhone 5 you probably did exactly what you what is like the optimal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► scenario for a TV appearance like that would be good be completely forgettable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1495">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► because we offer got it and that's that's good because it could go a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► worse it can't really go much better and so that's an antenna you can say I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► been on the charlie rose show you can tell your parents they can see it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► it's all good and you have all the benefits but but nothing went wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► sitting in a chair that was warmed by Matt Damon's as is that an honor I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► sure I don't know it's pretty cool though walking into it would you say he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► was he was sure he's a reader now I learned I learned what to do in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► scenario from from Maryland man it's such great advice that you just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► have to know this before just think about it now before there's no famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► people around if we ever meet somebody who's famous truly famous and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► get a chance to say something all yet all you say is huge family work that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► good did you just say huge fan you work and you mean it you know don't say it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► you don't mean it just look at them and say hey great to me a huge huge family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► work and then that's it you just let him go to me meant maybe neither I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► with Damon whenever we didn't even stop walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► but it was you know there's a moment I could say something I just said hey huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► fan network stacks and then you left me and you heard that story too so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► anyway what you said is exactly right about talking to reporters where and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► it's definitely my experience where almost all of them have the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► written whether it actually written written or just like in outlining their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► head they've already got it written and they will take your quote and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► fit what they've already written nine times out of ten so I don't talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► reporters anymore unless I know them and yes I know you don't know him personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► or if I'm familiar with their work and trust them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► yeah and and a different when you know them personally you know and I'll talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► to people I know but but that's a pretty small this really now or just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► just from the repair work but yet again but joe joe shmoe from Bloomberg no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► not a terrible idea where you can only go badly and it worked there at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► when I was interviewing for what what became the Tumblr job that was I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► weighing those two offers I iodine offer from both A&B to both places and I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► to choose between Bloomberg and his giant glass building where all the walls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► inside where glass and this caused problems because you couldn't see how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► exit the conference room you were in optical illusion everywhere in the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► they they they told me they had to add this micro of stickers that looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► company logo of decals on every wall that at approximately I level just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► run into things like rental walls it typical corporate design of like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► looks really cool doesn't work at all and so I get to waive that of crashing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1675">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► into glass walls and sitting in a very long table with about four feet of width [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► little six inch rim around the Deathly uneven cubicle what looked like a six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► inch rim around my little four-foot space typing on a PC working the Fortran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► code no or yeah yeah that was the job real and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► and everyone I interviewed with was not that nice and I thought I bombed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► interview and so I got an offer for any of you that I thought I bombed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► people I don't really want to work with in this terrible environment like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► giant like boiler room kind of environment just like the little strip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► of a desk but the Fortran terminal or I could go work for this guy who looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► like he's 15 David Carr he's working out of some office I don't quite understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► a bunch of other people are in but doesn't work for them something summery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► weather sharing office something everything is red in color from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► office full of children's toys and he told me that he buy me a magnet to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► on a Mac so that that was really like why I can't believe this code and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► production I mean it was literally this week simpson's I actually I would I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► recently I was light recently sitting next to a guy who works for IBM and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► was younger he was in his mid twenties and he saw it but he worked on in IBM's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► mainframe division which is still running and there's like no big banks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► and insurance companies and things like they still use IBM mainframes and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► writes all in Fortran COBOL one of those two he like that's what he does all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► is right low-level mainframe operating system code in COBOL Fortran this crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► in this and he's a mean he wasn't even born when this thing was was originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► written I feel bad cuz probably people listen to the show have a job like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► yeah I don't really wanna make fun trying to make fun I'm just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1796">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► stunned there's that much inertia yeah programming languages that they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► once they get any kind of math success they just never die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► want a system like that I mean if you think about it like from from like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► programmer out of college viewpoint and you think why using Fortran for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► bank's large systems that you're stupid that that's done I want to rewrite this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► whole thing in node or whatever and then you know but the reality is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► wise program would look in that be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► this bank's massive financial back end that has been running fine for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► part for like 30 years is written in some crazy language do I want the job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► hell no like that's that has red flags all over it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► you do not want that kind of responsibility get out of there I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► know I don't know any wise programmers who would take that job it's this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1855">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► of if it ain't broke don't fix it broke don't rewrite it and certainly don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► talk shit when there is a massive amounts of money at stake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► crazy let's take a break on through the first sponsor and it is our good friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► at fracture goes remember fracture you send them your photos and they send them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► back to you printed directly on glass not paper with a piece of glass in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► of him and frame the picture is printed right on the class I've never seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► anything else like it you really do kind of have to see it to believe it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► makes it seem as though it's right there on the surface I was compared to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► when the iPhone switched to the laminate laminated displays putting the pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► closer to the glass it's exactly that sort of effect but with an analog print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► of your photos they have all sorts of sizes to choose from the square ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► that Marco as made famous for printing at Arab icons for every time he sells a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► nap to somebody makes a copy looks really nice I've been in the marcos off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► this look great on the wall to really really big ones you know big rectangular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► ones they ship in these amazing containers that double as like the frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► that you can use to hang on the wall or to put on your desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► propped up right there in this nifty cardboard shipping container you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► have to buy an extra frame to put the thing in you can mount them directly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► August as the glass they look really cool so there's nothing else to buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► now when you get printouts and then you have to go put him in a frame take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► frame apart and it's easy so easy you descend on your pictures they send you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► printouts of them on glass where do you go to find out more go to their website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► fracture fracture me.com that's correct and there's a new coupon code use this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1971">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► code daring fireball all one word and you will save 15% on whatever you order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► so that's great their prices are already fantastic save 15% that use the code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► sharing fireball and go to fracture me.com and sleepers great sponsor really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► yeah i'm looking right at five fracture prince in my office right now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► all we have all over the place and a great gift idea too so i dont the media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► backlash over over over representation of your thing is kind of interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► it's a depressing but I feel like you the better topic is to actually talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► about some of the problems Apple software as yes one of the things I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► is it definitely agree cuz it it hits such a mainstream media thing I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► people within Apple definitely noticed and I heard from a couple friends at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► Apple not like pyaar naal pyaar reach and tell me you know trying to spin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► around and just you know engineers and some of them I I was really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► what they said all them said different things but like one of them was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► surprised and more or less do you really think that because you know I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► this is dead friend Apple's moralist paraphrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► that you know I think that we've been doing pretty good it seems to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► you know the bug open bugs in radar are lower than they used to be yours ago do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► you really think that I said I have to say there is something to add to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► seems to me like there's more annoyances than there used to be but there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► people with an apple who disagreed and then there are some who did agree but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► I'm curious I'm curious specifically like there's one thing you are called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► inhabits didn't really have like a list of here is some of the bugs right end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► and that was that was ultimately a feeling I wasn't really talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► like here's five things that are there are the problems today I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► talking about the general trend and so it's hard to give a comprehensive list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► of examples because of me these things are like little annoyances or a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► you know occasional failures or occasional bugs I heard from from from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► few different engineers and and and I read a couple of Reddit comments from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► people who are some who are allegedly with an apple and stuff and and it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► seems to be a few people thought that everything's fine but most of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► seem to think that that yeah it finally thank you for saying this but that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► of attitude like yes this is like no one listens that kind of that kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► and it's hard to get a read on what the truth is there even if these people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► the real people who actually work at Apple who knows it could have been some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► random person the internet but I think there's like your comment about like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► know the number of radars like Apple could be measuring things that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► reflect the the overall usage of you know annoyances and bug that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► had people in real life they could be measuring the wrong things or the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► they're measuring are changing and so for instance they have built in Crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► Reporter in endeavor recent version of every OS that you can say automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► send diagnostic snapple and when stuff breaks but that only dissenter report if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► a crash happened like if you hit a bug that wasn't a crash that that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► and most of the bugs I see recently aren't crashes like I'm not getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► kernel panics my computers you know or you know back when I was that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► yeah and that's one of the things I heard from one of the people who dis was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► sorta not not really believing in that it was that specifically that crashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► are down you know and that's something that they can measure because they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► a crush reporter and that just made made him surprised that this was I think an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► end really was it was not like a defensive take a typical a person very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► thoughtful really really genuinely curious because he found it surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► really wanted to know and also absolutely believed in sort of pale when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► there's smoke there's fire you know clearly this Marcos purpose resonated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► with a lot of people so I want to get to the bottom of you know what this is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► crashes definitely aren't exactly and like like earlier tonight one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► many annoyances when using an Apple TV I i turn on the AppleTV after it being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► asleep for most of the day and it shows three prompts in a row to say your Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► TV is not connected to the Internet like you hit menu and choose another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► likes of US three of those that were queued up so those aren't being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► coalesced and now go back to the home screen and it is going to the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► and radio in new stuff so they were canceled right at which point those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► things should have been disregarded anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► reminded right file under nevermind why were they even showing when it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► asleep and nobody was trying to do anything with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► good question there too so those are all quality issues right now not crashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► they're not gonna show up any bug reports because I'm not gonna report a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► lot of talking to a report that on radar like it's not worth the time to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► type it up and go to the office forms then I i hit menu a couple times to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► out of the deep hierarchy of the movie structure I was in to get back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► home screen I know you can do it all the time but it didn't the first time I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► it it went poop and it did it did its thing and then the second time I hit it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► just went poop poop poop and I kept hitting it and nothing was happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► and all the glitches cued up and nothing happens on a hard reset it and in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► 30 seconds later it executes all of them like this they'd all queued up so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► everything's moving around increasing again another bug two night ago I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► actually unplug it and plug it back in to get it to respond to any remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► commands I tried two different remotes we have multiple Apple TVs in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► they both have similar bug so I know it's not just one of them being like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► dying or flaky and i know i mean certainly Merlin has talked a lot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► his Apple TV hits used to issues with authenticating content Jeffrey Feltman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► available TV you know like the way that everything just has the worst murphy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► law technology like like Merlin clearly as it is quite like the Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► branches that syndrome right exactly and you know and like I so often I will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► to watch a movie and it'll sit there on authorizing forever and then eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► fail and it's really like come on I bought this movie we bought my kid is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► like sitting down he wants to watch something of a minute he's gonna start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► getting antsy and possibly scream like come on just just come on work that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► like and this is just the Apple TV right end and an airplane to the Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► works about a quarter of the time and it doesn't work I can vouch for the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► that it doesn't work with the two or three year old to try to explain in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► old days we have to get in the car and drive to Blockbuster and the disc might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► kids kids kids expect the thing that they see on the screen the way when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► touch the button exactly so and so this is your Apple TV this is just like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► week's worth of just like what I can recall what I can recall over the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► two days this is like the Apple TV and that's not even including various like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► you know like infinite timeouts and and failures with Netflix which I I'll give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► Apple event of the doubt and assume the Netflix problem but even with Apple's of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► authorizing the Apple purchased or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► that you know that has all those problems so that's one product right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► it's an airplane I hear from everybody that airplane doesn't work well for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► airplay works fine for me if I'm going to airport express that I have committed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► to a speaker my kitchen it works fine for that it fills every time for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► TV or no sorry fell 75 percent of the time for Apple TV like I'll do it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► couple times eventually it will take their places on my list and its high on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► the list because in terms of like canary in the coal mine because it used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► rock solid for me and my typical airplay scenario is almost always is either from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► my phone from an iPad to Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► good example of it is we didn't have Amazon Instant Video on TV until we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► a new TiVo sometime I can again last year and a half as Amazon built in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► because Amazon I dunno but they don't have an app on Apple TV whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► politics are or what but if you want to watch something that's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► politics yeah I'm guessing it watches so heavily to every man who are they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► yeah ask any man who visit Amazon recently like what's on the front page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► and it's the bottom row at the bottom of the first screen on amazon.com front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► page is all top mens watches I have never viewed a link to watch Amazon I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► never searched for watching Amazon I have done nothing that would influence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► that recommendation and it's it's heavily promoting watches and I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► I tweet about it a couple weeks ago and a bunch of other guys really get me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► this art screen shots like every person watching right now obviously this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► about the hot line is literally mens blue dial luxury watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► I swear I have you ever see that's the thing that's why I might cause I i dont [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2574">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► only own two watches but I love I've always loved watches but I only buy them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► if I think they're absolutely perfect kisses will have only got to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► watches all the time I don't and I don't really look for him on Amazon because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► Amazon I don't think it's a place where I would buy a while I did buy one there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► years ago but my citizen there but no i didnt actually I did the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► with the citizens I found it on Amazon but I wanted to see it in person and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► went to a jewelry store in philadelphia so I could see it and it was $15 more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► expensive in the jewelry store and I thought well this is exactly what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► should do wanna buy rate here because I am so glad there's a jury story here or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► I could see it you know I wanted to give him 50 more dollars now you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► right I know that thats and I thought you know what I'm like I'm not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► one percent top financial people on the 1% you know who shops thinking like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► like the Amazon percent their minds in there is a new yorker couple weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2635">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► on the cover there was a woman answering her door to take an Amazon box from UPS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► that was clearly like the size of the ones that they ship the books in looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► awkwardly at her neighbor who runs a little neighborhood but anyway I do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► mens blue dial luxury watches right on the front page of my hands on TV so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► had to you until we have the TiVo I had to their place and it's on to the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► TV and it always worked it just worked it was great and couple days ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► wanted to watch out for house which is a cool have really fun show I like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► and I was too lazy to switch the TV from Apple TV where he was to TiVo and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► TiVos to the pain in the ass anyway so I tried and I just got like a spinner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► it just spun and inspired by and eventually I just did have to switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► the TiVo and used that Amazon out there should be the Apple TV logo I for me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► used to work very very very consistently any video that wasn't me know there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► flag you can set to say don't you can't airplay but almost nobody said it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► then almost any video that I could watch on iPhone or iPad I could switch I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► just flick it continuity style to the Apple TV in I don't know how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► seconds but a few seconds then felt like mad everytime and now it's really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► a crapshoot exactly and and I mean I've owned every generation Apple TV and I we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► use them we don't have cable that's the Apple TV is our primary video player we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► are like me the only media playback we have at our house is Apple TV and a ps3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► for Blu ray disc that's it and so we use them heavily and its it has it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2753">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► definitely been a noticeable decline they were they didn't used to be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► bad and so again we can sit here on I am point out things about the Apple TV I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► mean like it's probably as interesting as here in somebody's I terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► airlines story or their or their dream from last night you know so I don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► bored with all the different pics of like how might stuff has failed but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► can look at a lot of the products recently and see a lot of stories like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► this from everybody Glenn Fleishman solicited things on Twitter and had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► really good post like summarizing like yours whenever I'm complaining about I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► didn't see that where he put that on his blog deadline.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► think any way you can sort through his tweets for the last two days to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► like if you're bringing my Twitter client doesn't go back that far too so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► don't know what kind of like a special EBI I don't even think the Twitter API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► anyway it is on the front page of his blog and I will put it in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► yes I do that and then so so that that's part of it like that and i've i've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► issues with with your Samedi similar to like I never was talking to a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► weeks back about at like he should a screenshot of how many copies of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► computer there were in the in the Finder source list of like the network share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► area of the Finder the finer left pane and he was like you know never bergen's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► laptop 23456 like a giant list of all the different I feel like I've had a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► of issues with that of like things like losing my original computers name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► showing up as print these two or certain computers just disappearing off we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► three computers in our home network here and one printer and an ass box in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► closet for network share stuff and at any given time I can usually see between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► 0 and two of them and liked it and it just like usual you have to reboot not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► the one to present but you have to reboot long is not showing up I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2876">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► obviously since I used it but I can't wait to but I don't know if his summary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► goes like this but yours does so far in the couple that I have jotted down all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► fit in the category of things that don't even have their not Crashers and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► don't have error messages so you just silent failures exactly so pretty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► there are some Crashers but usually like most people are in the most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► I think like you know like there there are like pressures are they're bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► problem iOS I think you know and iOS 7 I think was worse than I was a year ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► two crashes but so for instance on iOS aid overcast crashes more than that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► was seven and a few key areas and an open my fault not heard from a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► other developers 21 developer even posted stats their app still runs on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► percentage of installs that have crashed on seven vs eight and the percentage any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► was five times higher and liked it and I and IV had crashes like deeply deepen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► system frameworks like image I O I have crashes like decoding jpegs for a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► art that crashes alot and I was it never happened seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► stuff like that like it and you know the the background download in system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► occasionally has crashes the audio subsystem will crash and everyone blame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► me for it there's there are so many like subsystem or API League low-level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► failures are crashes that happen just rarely enough that it's really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► ever track it down but frequently enough that if you have a crash lawyer in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► another one for me and I tweeted about this and I actually got somebody from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► Apple reached out and they said they would look into it but for me it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► keyboard shortcuts not not not command keys but like when you have teh go to te [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► the Texas man well I think they are right the Texas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► the future similar to text expander good I think they did I think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► perfect example though of them adding a feature to the system in an appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► way where it still leaves text expander plenty of room oh yeah they just do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► you get that wears text expander has all of the interactive stuff where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► have you know you know the corners on those yea or like I've got the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► expander wants to put the date in certain formats right time I keep me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► know my little shortcut and I get today's date you can't do that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► dynamic variables anyway but they used to sync between devices and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► stopped thinking and they stopped thinking when I switched to the iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► documents and Cloud Drive iCloud tribe which I had to do over someone and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► beta testing some stuff you know I want to use it right and so the fact that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► stopped working and I understood because maybe they were using you know when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► warn you hate when you switch you can't go back you know you're always on it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► so I thought oh so that's interesting they must have been using the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► storage API's for these keyboard shortcuts in italy did it but now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► know who it was like two months after everything that come out of beta you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► know I was running a new phone running iOS 9 I was running a new just to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► it more likely that should work a brand new Retina MacBook Pro running the non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► beta version of Yosemite and its they still weren't thinking nothing would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► think most shortcut racing and then in this is this to me is the sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► on I'm thinking that you know is is the modern Apple unsteady software they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► start sinking but not all of them now like on my phone and on my Mac almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3115">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► all of them are the same and I definitely never once cause I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► see what happened I never once like said ok just take 10 minutes and reproduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► them in both places are you have them I just waited and are mostly there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► there's one in particular is sort of a game of Where's Waldo like scrolling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► two lists trying to find the ones that are missing and it's even made more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► difficult because they saw in a different order in terms of the way we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► wanted the way that once regular if it's just alphabetical characters they sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► alphabetically but the Mac puts ones with puncture bleeding punctuation at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► the top and the iPhone put 200 leading punctuation at the bottom so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► little hard again none of this is is a reportable bug or rather not none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► this will report itself to Apple yeah and it's so hard but I know for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► I have a custom one could you can use it to add custom words in Sunnyvale I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► expansion but I used the word navbar as all one word and a vbar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► all the time when I'm talking with a viscous about Vesper I called in at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► the nav bar and it's always always on the iPhone like one RBI messaging and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► auto correcting it and who knows what you know just random guesses from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► dictionary that were closed so I put it in my thing and it's on my phone which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► is the place where I need it but it's not on my Mac whereas like the other I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► don't know there's like maybe thirty of them seem mostly NSYNC crazy I got in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► there is never an error message there's never any an error on any device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► says they've got a problem with your keyboards shortcuts in can turn it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► turn it back on again or nothing no errors I just don't have some of them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► both devices yet even worse with this cloud stuff because you have so little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► insight as to what the problem is if there's even a problem or how to fix the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► problem once that happens you know if you if you look at if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► Apple's you know crash rate history let's say somebody inside Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► looking out like well you know that we have the same rate of crashes now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► we did five years ago whatever you know whatever I think you have to also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► consider that now we are doing a lot more with our devices in our computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► we have more devices and computers interacting with each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► per person especially around in these crowds and the the the cloud services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► are this other factor in so many TVs I don't go too far into it here but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► know if let's say you have like a 1% bug rate for like you know when you're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► this after this service of the OS one percent of the time it won't work right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► obviously this is made up but bear with me if then you you consider the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► interaction of two different after services that have the same rate its 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► percent if you consider it again it's not the repaving it's not three percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► its four percent does these things don't add they multiply because every as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► add more possible ways of interaction between applications services cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► all those failure rates the chance of that any one thing is going to go wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► somehow is the multiple that the product of all those factors not the sum so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► grows geometrically and so as you make things more complicated as our devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► can do more as we have more devices interacting with each other and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► interacting with the cloud services all of these air factors are all multiplied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► and so you have to you can't just keep quality the same as it used to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► you know like the quality rate per service or perhaps it has to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► get better over time to keep the same overall error rate from happening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► somebody yeah yeah and I'm not accusing anybody at Apple of incompetent cause I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► don't think any of these bugs are like universal it's not like no player play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► I'm sure I've written words bugs today I mean like a really embarrassing bug two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► hours ago and overcast like really embarrassing I would bet good I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► that's how real bugs are real bugs are at cases to some degree maybe the too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► big but it's you know something you didn't think I'm thinking most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► time I'm going if you go to Apple store and buy a new Apple TV and you pick up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► new iPhone or iPad and you set them up and create a brand new iCloud account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► and go to user play it'll just work it'll ninety-nine times out of a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► that will just work that there's no bug that keeping most people from doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► but there's clearly some bugs that you know and who knows it might be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► hundred different bugs you know the result in the same thing and they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► you know just one-tenth of one percent of people have taken a pass but then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► wound up with there's a lot of people who have trouble trouble stuff like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► and again like so many things are hard to report or two minor to report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► individual problems like through the bug reporter system and a bug reporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► system to is is about as hostile as it can be if you go to report a bug on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► Apple bug reporter you'll be greeted first of all is it still iOS 6 themed so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► you'll do great improvement over the Aqua used to have a six-team like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► days before iowa 7 whether it had but it had like a 10 point oh I don't like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► he was back when I was really striking had two big the pinstripes horizontal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► pinstripes and yes they updated it like an iOS 6 luck right for him before I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► so it was like it was like days or weeks before it was hilariously it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► obviously talking to each other about that anyway so you read it with this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► know this this pretty terrible web app first of all and then it asked you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► like seventeen different fields and then you fill your stuff out and you submit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► it and they say alright thanks we'll look into it here's a number and in most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► cases of bugs I filed a file maybe fifty bug so far in my life with Apple in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► almost every case you will never hear about it again they won't even tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► if it's a duplicate its close it'll sit there open forever sometimes they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► tell you after like three months this is a known bug it's a duplicate of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► shutterbug I D thank you but then you lose on his ability then you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► when the other big ideas closed like you guessed it is basically all your books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► alright I just logged into my radar account and here's one that I filed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► State Open ranked No value and its here's what I said when you control it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► said product Safari when you control click right click on a background tab in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► Safari for you get a menu with options for things like creating a new tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► closing the tab reloading the tab and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► it would be nice if there were an option to copy the URL for that time that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► you can copy the URL for a background tab in a back room window without either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► activating that window or that particular time I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► still ahead but it's the fact that it's just their green open yet still waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► for a response from Apple and then and it's this is this is not uncommon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► this is the common case I'm not mad that they haven't done it actually see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► still can't copy at AB it's the same so I'm not mad that they haven't taken my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► suggestion is done something but that's what everybody that belongs to me that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► what I should do with an idea like that is filed a radar right but the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► it's open late I wouldn't mind if they just said closed now we don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► we don't think copy belongs in them ok you know thanks for considering the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► it's the fact that it looks to me as though nobody is ever look at it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► and which they probably never will until at some point some internists task with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► going to that list and they dislike both closed the mall or send like like a form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► of her death to all them saying all right you know is a still a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► please provide a sample project illustrate the problem if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► automatically closed until he gets it that's the kind of thing you get i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► 2011 for bugs here in one of my accounts of 2011 2011 2013 all green no responses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► I mean so this is this is the problem I have with with you know the typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► Apple answer is well please you have to file a bug for anybody find a feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3655">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► if you're gonna say that if that's going to be your default response this system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► has to be better that this system has do it has to be less hostile and it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► somehow give some kind of satisfactory result even if it's as simple as after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► like a week you say you know thanks we took into consideration or or we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► gonna we'll have somebody look at this and then close it like some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► something that indicates to the person who filed the bug that it was worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► their time to have filed it and that's the problem right now you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► that and so there's no incentive for individuals to file bugs if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► anyone else will ever filed the same bug well there's that the adage that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► insanity is doing the same thing over the definition of insanity is doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► same thing over and over again and expecting different results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► you know there's a lot of sense actually true thats to me it seems almost insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3714">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► to keep filing radars when you expand expecting them to be dealt with when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► your experiences this is just a waste of my time exactly and I had so many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► who work at Apple tell me please file radars they really do matter they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► do help please keep filing them and they'll say to you like they also that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► they get a a surprisingly low number of radars filed for like you would expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► certain things to have a lot may say you know certain feature requests are major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► feature cuts will have like seven radars ever filed on them or something but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► problem is like they're yelling at us saying please file bugs their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► what we see on the outside is extremely hostile and demotivating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► hope that sucks I want to come back to that but I want to commit to a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► section do a break but before I take a break I just wanted to say nothing too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► was that your article at the one of the things that had me nodding my head with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► your article has sort of yeah like now I kind of feel like one of them like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► is so we've got a laser printer here in San HP and I'm pretty happy with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► quality and it does wifi and the same when I did write to see p 1525 N W yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► when you asked me what the bottle to begin yeah I did I did I did take my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► yeah and it doesn't work for and it lies all lies so bad about how much toner it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► has left it like thief in the night might have been saying it has extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► low supply levels for about three years and it still produces fine I get it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► telling me I'm low on color i print color I swear to god like once a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► everything I know you with the black it told me that I brand of black and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/3832">TS</a>]
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01:16:52 ◼ ► no clear way for them to do it you know stuff like that it's just it's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► better to just outsource this discussion about that and go to yours as I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4616">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► like perfectly exemplifies why Squarespace advertises the way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► do that the way that they advertised over and over and over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► shows like ours never used to make sense to me but I think it's so that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► how many people really need to make a website right now who knows probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► very few but how many over the course of the next year are gonna find themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► in this situation where they do need to make a website and at that moment if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► they get out first thing I think of the Squarespace whom they go there exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► yeah I think it works out very well for them that way right it's not about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► needing website while you're listening to it on the show it's eating it in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► mind so that when you hit that situation where school to spend $4,000 on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► website that you say no you don't do that I wanna go back to what you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► talking about in in the US in my notes here for the show talk about Deb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► relations and I think it's a big part of the problem that we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► here and I think Apple's developer relations is overwhelmed now I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► know the numbers and so it's this ballpark figure but for talking with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► somebody at Apple they they're brough estimate is that Microsoft Web Developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► Relations team is somewhere between 10 and 50 times larger than apples and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► fifty and he was like I wouldn't be surprised and if you're like a serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► and you have never been I've never written a god damn line of code for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► Windows but you know the basic idea is if you're a professional developer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► doing some kind of serious work on Windows you can get the attention of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► somebody competent and who can get stuff done on their developer relations team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► and so if you're being driven up the wall by this obscure bug in a framework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► you can get you may not get a solution right away and you certainly may not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4736">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► know it's may not get a version of Windows release that has a fix for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► right away but you can at least get somebody's attention to get it in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► of the right people and it doesn't feel like when you're reporting things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► Microsoft doesn't feel like you're you know just filing things into a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► hole and that Apple's developer relations not that they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► well-meaning but that they're just overwhelmed absolutely positively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► overwhelmed and it's it's like Microsoft Developer Relations team is of a size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► that is appropriate for a company that had and saw as its rightful place that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► 90% of all software in the world is written for it and Apple's developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► relations is still have a scale of a company that has like three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► percent of the software in the world will also like the the whole structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► of how how it's set up with the public or with the developers is radically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► different from the set up at the way Apple's a setup is is it's fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► hostile at first like Apple appears to be this brick wall that you have no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► in like there's there is nowhere on as far as I know I don't think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► there's like a list or an email address to ask a developer evangelist question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► so I guess I just serviced by I've always wondered why is there a public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► list anywhere of who the apple of Angeles even are and if you search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► Google for Apple Developer evangelists nowhere on on the first page is anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► from Apple there's there's a git hub just where somebody else some random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► person has compiled the list from WDC and and has a question marks on it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► like this every every year to BBC you can always tell hit in the first few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4856">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► days if you look around some of the bigger sessions the very last slide they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► will show the presenter's name their email address and their title that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► usually the first time you see their title it is almost certainly the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► time you see their email address and you look around the room at next logon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► screen for about eight seconds and you see half the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► racing to write down that email address taking pictures of it yeah I've noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► yeah because like that's like this that's right the first time the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► people say oh my god there's somebody who works in Apple in the developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► group somewhere that I can contact us I think people worry rightfully that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► want to write it down and get a picture of it now because who knows if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► gonna cut it out of the published version a lot of those videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► mistakes out without laughter applause that economy lot like if all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► this guy gets overwhelmed with the email maybe that you know they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► take his email out so better kick it that way you can I know I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► weird like that these people's job is to interact with the public with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► developers at least the developer public about these frameworks in these areas of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► development there's no list on Apple site anywhere that list them like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► weird isn't it I don't think that it's malice I don't think it's that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► don't mean well I in fact the people I know in Apple Developer Relations for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► the most part are great people and the least I had never met anybody like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► would call unpleasant I would really sharp I think that they are overwhelmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► though I think that they sure they've stepped up somewhat but I think for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► most part thereof a basic magnitude that was appropriate for Apple ten fifteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► years ago and now they're one of if not the most popular developer platform in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► the world and they're just overwhelmed again that the number that I heard from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► some guy got a rough estimate but that Microsoft's team is 10 to 50 cent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► 10 to 50 times larger than my early different and this this list on github [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► of Hoodia vendela sorry Apple has a twelve people on it it's a pretty small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► and they are you know if there is one that would explain a lot because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► know even like there's there's developer relations managers are representatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► like people say oh I talked to a developer rapper my developer Rep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► I don't know how you go about getting a developer rep for the first time 105 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► years that I hadn't happened after all been to paper and all the magazine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► never I could never find one no one ever contacted me I didn't have a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► Epic if that even as a thing it wasn't until overcast that somebody is somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► emailed me from you know some press thing they reached out and so it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► really until that that I had like a contact that I could email at Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► ask the question to or to bring concern to like he was like it wasn't until last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► year and I've been in the App Store since 2008 and and when I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► mention this to the person they just and let's not mince words with some success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► yeah I mean it's not you know you know it's not like you wrote you too but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► know pretty popular apps right and and yet didn't matter and and when I mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► this is this person that I had never found any contacts in about relations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► before they were like they were surprisingly really are you surely that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► that really thats like they were even surprised at that but like I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► the people in the Developer Relations Division I don't think they have a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► idea of how it looks from the outside of of how how the developer relations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► appears to and communicates with developers who are not in with somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► just what I've heard and I believe it and it definitely plays on developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► relations but they're so overwhelmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► relations that the wraps are just and they're not and not known and hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► initiate contact with and even once they do it just never becomes a priority that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► the whole internal color radar but and maybe it's maybe that's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► remember radar system database but the whole radar system is entirely geared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► internally toward fixing bugs from within Apple itself right so if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► on if you're writing you're one of the engineers on pages and you run into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► text kid bug it gets taken care of exactly as you would think and it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► up the post gets put in front of the right person and they run your example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► fix it and then you know it just works at all but it's there's nothing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► that from the outside like it's like 99% internal and like 1% external and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► not saying the balance should be fifty fifty you know I think it's obvious that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► of course Apple's gonna fix their own bugs first but it's it's just not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► close and it's not even like oh poor US port third-party developers were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► gonna bug fix its these are things that affect users everybody you know the bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► work we're fighting for these bugs because they affect the experience of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► the users right exactly I don't know I mean I don't know how you solve this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► problem except by making certain parts of Apple much bigger and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► obviously not an easy thing to do like you know they're all the little man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► month kind of things like and I think it's a step up I think it's a scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► thing for them to do to you know they've seen it over the you know everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► seen this industry for 20 years and everybody knows that Microsoft got a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5217">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► bigger and then it got it got slow and lumbering and they also you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► gonna have trouble staffing up possibly because when you work for Apple you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► you know you have to first of all you have to be there like they don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► remote work for most things that have a couple remote offices for certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► isolated projects but for the most part they don't do remote work so you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► they're competing with everyone else in the Silicon Valley region for top talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► and that is that is extremely competitive and and I would imagine they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► probably have trouble retaining a lot of these good people because like i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► you know we know tons of times like our friends and people we knew that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► who like they were an apple for a while and then they want to go out and try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► being iOS developer or being being a Mac Developer themselves independently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► because when you're in Apple you can have side projects is funny about being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► a developer relations rap is even more because your job is reaching out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5277">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► other people and they're gonna be like wow you're awesome if you're if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► if you're like an iOS expert who has worked for Apple that's a pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► qualifier I would imagine it makes you pretty valuable on the market so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► expect they probably have a lot of trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► first attracting and retaining great talent there in addition to any cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► issues that and challenges that would come with trying to grow the company is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► substantially larger so but I don't really see a way around that being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► eventual outcome like I don't think they can keep the company the current size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► and I know they also have issues with like they don't have the space for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► bill was John new campus like they're out of room to but you know it's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► all these problems but you know they're these problems are just can't disappear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► and III I think they are working towards I hope they're working towards that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► I think there's going to be some uncomfortable migration uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► growth as the company becomes a bigger organization but I think it has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► yeah I think people are a third-party developers are exercising things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► just don't get exercised within Apple you know I would say like the extensions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► sharing extensions where I knew they would be used for but the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► Apple itself really want to they're there they were already there anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► because if Apple collectively agreed hey this should be in the sharing extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► for everybody that it was built into the systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► sharing panel was only one third-party developers started doing it but note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► that thing is so full of little tiny bugs like the way that when you reorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► them and just want a little things like that you know it's a perfect example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► something that did to me doesn't quite work right then and there is there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► couple a little by little limitations then there have been pretty big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► ramifications i believe it was Brian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► ramifications i believe it was Brian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► high rates of tumblr made a nice blog post right before I was 18 out listing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► like all the little challenges that they had with the top tension and yeah he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► the right thing he reported the malls radars listed all the radar numbers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► the post and everything but you know they they they actually like i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► i dont public anyway so what we learned building the iOS tumblr iOS share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► extension yet exactly exactly so it will be in the show so we have we have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► system itself in as bugs it has limitations it's you know that's got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► get better and you know hopefully it will over time I probably well but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► think you know and and all the stuff around the a projection is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► substantially worse to like all the rejections around as I think what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► seeing is the the policy from Apple is pretty clear the policy is the implied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► policy rather is keyboards should not contain anything that isn't a keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► like you know it shouldn't be able to do anything that is not like text entry you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► know it shouldn't be issued have any other cool features built-in calculator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► built on your keyboard like the obviously like this is the implied rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► your keyboard should only be a key part of some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► no extras can put a virgin a desert golfing and has a keyboard correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► similarly your today view your today extension or whatever they're called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► your today view should or must be in general a quick glance kind of thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► shouldn't be the place where you spend time it shouldn't be a place where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► complete a long running task it should just be a quick view those are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► implied rules but they won't come out and say that they they won't codify that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► and say this is the rule to high-level rule this should only be used for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► like that's clearly what they want but what they're saying instead is well try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5515">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► to draw the line exactly where like more precisely where there should be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► low-level they say well you can't have buttons at lunch or after you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► complete the task or you can have too many buttons are you can't this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► keyboard today really they try to come up with all these little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► explanations of lower level implementation detailed rules but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► clearly not like those are all just you know that the data somebody not wanting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► to state the real rule the higher-level richter's this system is intended only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► for this you can all you're only allowed to do this and it's just not I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► know I don't know why they won't just say the higher level I think that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► actually generate less controversy and would be easier for developers to follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► and to not like say certainly some developer well does this count but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► know you see the hell of a ruling that would give you some idea like if I stray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► from this it's going to be rocky territory after an objection risk i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► think the absence of definitely plays into it I don't know how different that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► is from typical Dave relations but it ought to be tied up cuz it's in Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► view the App Store is an app for iOS it absolutely is the only way other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► that enterprise stuff you know it's the only way it's it's an inextricable part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► of the development process so App Store problems should be considered developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► relations problems it the whole thing like with the pain the recent things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► panic has gone through and like where they had the issue with their saving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► feature in transmitted where you know they didn't want to be able to save to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► iCloud drive and therefore they had to take the whole thing out because even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► the stuff that hooks up to Dropbox and box.net because there's no control over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► couple other people wrote about it and then you know Senior Center mines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► prevailed and ok got it fixed and there's this whole and everybody agrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► on everybody that you shouldn't have to have you know during fireball publish it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5634">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► text you shouldn't have to go public to get that and you shouldn't have to be of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► the prominence of panic to do that you know like some upstart who nobody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► heard of yet should be able to get the steno the same reasonable correction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► with an App Store problem that panic right and they have they have the appeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► system set up there so in theory this should work you should be able to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► the appeal which like you know from what I understand so you know that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► the reviewers among level and foreign interests and the appeal doesn't just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► to the same people goes to a level above those people and so if some reviewers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► made a bad call the appeal should work the system that's in place there should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► the question is why doesn't it work as well as run to the press like right into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► the press and making a big stink yet it's gonna work it by the way of PR work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► that that's going to work a little bit better you know on occasion but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► shouldn't work so much better it shouldn't be like that and in panic even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► set up in panic will see these things in the nicest way possible because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► don't wanna start earning and stuff but but you know they even said like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► unfortunate but you know this method is what works and we've gotten a Q branch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► we've gotten bugs fixed because we know people who work on the framework that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► we're having a problem with and we could you know I think literally at WABC Brent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► had like coffee with somebody and showed the example price which he had already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► submitted months ago in a radar you know here's a simple 39 example prod project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► that shows the bug exactly he got to show it to a guy from the framework team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► right in his face you know not a confrontational you know brand but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► was you know drinking coffee at the hotel bar and I see I know if there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► any like you know made a note of it and but you shouldn't have to know somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► and have coffee with an engineer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► you know it's just because Brent knew that you know known for years that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► doesn't skip to say that that doesn't scale is you know self-evident right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► mean so you have in the reality of the iOS ecosystem and the Mac the reality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► the Apple ecosystem is that you have the official channels up later use this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► and you know what you said only makes sense that they are extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► understaffed these areas or they they're not selling very well that that explains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► a lot because it seems like we're the general public is is shown to go is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► a law that is extremely ineffective has very few ways in and it is just very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► off-putting and and just you know they're they're trying to deflect it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► me it's like when you call the company and you get put on hold for 35 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► and some text menu that really want you to follow a self-help options like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► don't want you to get in through the public way because they can't handle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► all then you have all of us going through at the side door could you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► somebody and that ends up working better that's not good like that you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► embarrassing that should be a major problem it seems like something they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► could fix because you know again I think the biggest problem is what you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► which is just that hiring talented people in general is hard and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► hard in the valley but you know that's what works money and guess what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► has to have money so I I can't help but think it is fixable and you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► they have to always keep everybody Cupertino right like the things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► there are parts of their business that can be easily on so that's what location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► like I work in Pittsburgh like they like there are parts of Apple's business they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► can be other places and and I think I think gus was saying they're opening up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► an office in Seattle yeah so like it looks like they might be starting to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► more willing to bring this out a little bit but yeah I think the Seattle office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► is going to be cloud stuff that's the rumor I don't know I don't have any good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5877">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► but yes I i think you know they they they need to start breaking down some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► these barriers with themselves of like the way they do way they've always done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► things or the or the kind of the rules I haven't really given a severance to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► on site you better make more sites because more places because that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► they have to become a bigger company there are so many areas where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► clearly understaffed under-resourced and as it is not for money like it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► far as we can tell unless they foresee a near-term future where they're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► to have so many third party developers and I i don't see how they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► possibly think that because it doesn't see I don't see how that's possible they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► they really need a bigger developer relations team much bigger like tractor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► factor of 10 with not just ahead Campbell with authority within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► company to to get issues escalated and put in front of the right people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► there's this week is going on in this has been the topic of the week I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► thinking my should my thinking has shifted more and more that it's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► more a developer relations problem and lot less to do to what I initially had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► been thinking for a long time which is the annual release cycle of the two OS's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► why did the two different problems I mean I don't think so and i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► you know it's clearly multivariable and those are both definitely two of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► variables absolutely but my thinking has shifted in terms of which one is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► bigger problem and I think to which one to my eyes measures with the timeline of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► what I am scene i've you know i think that it's as iOS has gotten more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► complicated and therefore there are more things that could go wrong and as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► ratio of developers to develop relations people within Apple has gotten more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/5994">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► more absurd that correlates to me to my eyes with the shift in quality and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► I think hockenberry nailed it it's like loose screws it's the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► equivalent of loose screws yeah just like sloppy little flaws that aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► fatal but I mean the I think these problems are intertwined you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► like it's hard it's hard to say well developer relations is possible for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► general decline in quality and Apple software and services right to simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► that way to sample right now but if you look at certain parts you can say light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► if there if they're saying that they're not seeing more bugs being reported and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► therefore they don't know what problems to fix they don't have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► information to fix them why aren't more books being reported and then you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► start following that rebel 200 well actually this is related to develop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► relations or related to the bug reporting system related to the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► image Apple has among developers and the personality like the the personality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6056">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► individual people with an Apple ads I've spoken with over the 90 couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► possibly be more different than the public persona of Apple the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► persona of Apple is as it's a brick wall and it's it's pretty terse and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► pretty unwelcoming to developers and and to public input of any kind really yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► but the individual people I have met and spoken with an apple or the complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► opposite there there are friendly normal people there are friends like so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► they get there and he take enormous pride in your work you can if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► lucky enough to get your bug in front of the person who can I can engineer who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► can fix it that they're going to take care of it they are offended by any and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► all books right because they're good engineers like so so what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► distance here is a process issue is it a policy issue is a just like inertia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► going in the wrong direction certain things I don't know but the issues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► Apple are seemingly seemingly deep-rooted it's something that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6117">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► not budging you know what's up some part of the culture inside or the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► process the way things are done is it needs to be modernized and in and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► hasn't been yet and that's not an easy thing to do you know that's mean I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► know anyone big companies but I wonder how much to the historical artifacts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► the size of their developer relations team being relatively small how much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► a trade leads to not just the fact that ten fifteen twenty years ago Apple was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► smaller company be far fewer users and see had far fewer developers but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► with the peculiar nature of the third party to modernize peculiar to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► of that it was dominated by just like three or four huge companies Adobe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► Microsoft you know gossip farmer and Macromedia you know you know maybe more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► than 45 but you know that you just 10 11 12 big big developers who I think and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6177">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► all accounts and I heard you know did have you know like platinum card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► developer relations treatment from Apple and that they were there sort of built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► up for that sort of world yeah that's that's a very very good point I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► it's a lot of Apple like even if you look like the SVP roles you know why why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► is the entire developer relations system under the head of marketing why is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► entire cloud infrastructure system why the same guy responsible for the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► cloud obstruction system and also negotiating deals with record labels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► like like I I think they need they need to get wider as an organization they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► need like more divisions and they need each they need these divisions to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► like me no more more power at the top or more say and like I said I i treated a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► while ago if you want to see a play areas where apple doesn't do so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► look at which St P's have way too much on their plate well I did and then again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► I don't think it's like personally I don't think Phil Schiller and EQ are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► know we get their jobs I'm saying like if that's the relation to structured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► where all these things are under like you know like fairly disparate things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► are under one organization with one person representing the top I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► that's too much on their plate if anything it's that they're effective at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► their jobs I mean I was was explicit it was a rare instance where they publicly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► said they added maps to any Q's play you know they usually they don't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► announcements like that publicly but forestall thing was had to be done so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► and the explanation was Eddie you know get stuff done so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► maps need stuff done so now it's a tease and at you know truth be told Maps has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► gotten significantly better yeah people still people point to maps maps is a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► example in my opinion because maps is a product that I think it's clearly headed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► in the right direction is it possible that it could be headed in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► direction faster I guess of course you can always do somewhat better and is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► is it is good quality wise is Google Maps know but thats I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► mainly because Google still has the pedal to the metal on Google Maps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► Google is improving Google Maps a very quick rate and so Apple maps might lag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:24 ◼ ► behind it for years to come until they sort of get to the you know the point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6324">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► diminishing returns were there both in as close to perfect as they can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► I think that's a bad example cuz I think they're getting a lot better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► well i i disagree with with with the chances of me as being you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► eventually tie up with you gonna be like those kind of large big data problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► Apple has never shown they're very good at them they they where we're at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► couple gets a bum rap is is the general cloud services I think maps today Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► maps today is already better than Google Maps was a few years ago I'm not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► sure how many of you with that but I get I get I used to get bad bad driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► directions from Google Maps you know it was always better it was just like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► search where I was I guess I used MapQuest before and right when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► switched to Google Maps it was like this is better and it wouldn't do stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► things like getting me from my house to you know i 95 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► for the first few steps of a trip in my experience i mean again this is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► thing where everybody depending on where you live maybe having different results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► but I think Apple maps is already better than Google Maps used to be some number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► of years ago it's not as good as Google Maps is today but it's it's getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► there I'm like I don't think that it's why I think it's already good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► that it's proved that they can do a large dataset problem to some degree of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► quality AppStore search and I cry I but I think overall that's happening now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► App Store search is a great example of something that's always been shit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6415">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► still shit and there's no evidence at all that they're getting better at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► that they've hired anybody you know to me the solution is so obvious just find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► someone who's done a good work at like being a Google search and hire a team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► event you know coach a team of engineers with experience it one of the successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► search engines I think the problem there is no in general the the App Store at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► the store itself not the politics going on behind the pilot the store itself the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► interface to the store the the infrastructure that runs the store that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► the store apps themselves the categories in the store the the ability that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► store pages have like two different field descriptions like all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► that stuff changes incredibly slowly a lot of it has never changed it like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► the App Store it seems like the Install button for Yosemite App Store still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► looks like the old Mac OS and and and the boys if you think the iOS App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6476">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► Abbas is little rough around the edges the Mac App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► pretty rough that's that's been a frequent source of bugs it's it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► it's just rough it the the iPhone one is the least bad the iPad one is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► pretty bad and the Mac one is really bad but anyway like all that stuff it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► like I don't think this is an instance of like this team needs fifty more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► engineers I think it's an instance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► think this is good enough and that's that's what frustrates me about the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► story and and its various quality issues and I'm not talking about like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► the policies in this case I met you talk about the store like the actual app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► store itself there are so many things they could do that would make it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► that they seem to think they don't need to do but overall though I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► Apple's cloud services get a bum rap I think if you look at what what we do on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6534">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► our Apple devices that rely on Apple's cloud services most of it just works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► fine and it's again it's that error rate multiplier thing like the edges stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► out and then we all scream and say Apple's cloud services suck but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► reality is like most of the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► as far as I know what I would expect at least the biggest Apple cloud service is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► the system that delivers push notifications and I message and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► works extremely well and if you think about the scale of its operating on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► that's insane like the the the the amount of messages to get delivered in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► like all my interactions with that serve as a developer like the the servers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► that take in push requests are just lightning-fast like it will take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► requests as quickly as your network on stream them to it it it it it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► fails I've never had a connection error report of any of those tasks that run on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► my servers like it was one that wasn't my fault my network it is ridiculous how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6594">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► that system works from what I've heard cloud kit works I mean I haven't used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► yet but her cloud cover Salt Lake this this new infrastructure of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► building cloud on that the building of the photo library stuff on all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:13 ◼ ► indications so far it is little early but all indications so far say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6613">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► thats rock-solid so it does seem like most of their cloud services do work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► are solid but you did you definitely hear about the ones that don't yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► so I think the people who are holding that stuff up as examples of this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► me take a break and i wanna talk I guess the last time we talked about would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► the annual schedule maybe we can talk about that crazy new MacBook that mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► fuhrman says it's coming at severe no I don't wanna have just bought a you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► that now know my MacBook Pros is what I want I want is you still have your 11 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► do I'm actually recording this but all I literally all I use it for is to record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6656">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► the show and to take a look at anything it's still running 10.9 so to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► look at anything in the old you I that I want it what was it like when you put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► we do before you're so many right that the only two things I use this machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► does it look totally garrison outdated no yes it's been such a short time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► looking at 10.9 is my god it's ridiculous it's not quite as ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► as looking at pre iOS 7 iOS because they are they never quite blamed where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► do that at one point and left it there it's even worse when like so that it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► you now using right now I'm actual time right right so how bad is it when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:43 ◼ ► see a 9-12 by 11 inch as as the unwritten screen and you know I did what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6703">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► I got a Mac Mini for some some artillery duties here it's it runs headless but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► have we have an older 27 inch LED whatever cinema display in the closet so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6715">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► I took that out to set it up and so I had time I kept going back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► between my 27 inch iMac 27 is unable to play which at the time it came out was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► an amazing this political sell it it's now one out the nobel I have the pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► anyway yeah like incredibly good looking bright nice colors great you know great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► prices great contrast liked by all specs it is an amazing player when it came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► I remember I had some other like HP monitor and I looked at my God my crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► compared to this wonderful Apple monitor and the hell that they have written a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► version of that same thing basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► going between the two as I was like the first time I saw the definable the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► non-revenue 10 is this the wrong solution like what is what is wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► it looks terrible at what oh my god this was normal I looked at this all day like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► it's sounds awful but it's it's it's such a difference but I would imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► looking back at Mavericks once you're accustomed to yosemite it probably looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:06 ◼ ► the other thing that makes me think I might not like if assuming that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6786">TS</a>]
01:53:09 ◼ ► government thing is true that well we'll talk about it but i dont im don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6789">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► I would like the keyboard I'm concerned get too close together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:18 ◼ ► yeah that's the thing I never lied to my living in chair and not that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6798">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► know but close enough but that doesn't have the key travel that the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► power books do and it's one of the now while he's mine didn't I got them I 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► inch air is the last error that doesn't have keys that light up if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:36 ◼ ► 2010 yeah it was the only one that ever it was only like that the first one did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6816">TS</a>]
01:53:40 ◼ ► the 2008 old crappy one that did light up then they they 2010 was initially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6820">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► didn't and they brought it back in 2011 now the keys when you press them don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► go as far down as on other power books and it's the nicest the single nicest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6828">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► thing about the well the screens at this thing but that second assisting after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6833">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► the Retina screen is that keyboard I just totally news to me i i thought they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6837">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► all use the same part like all theall the current Apple keyboard was the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► same in all of them you know and for obvious reasons the main thing I use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► PowerBook for instead of I still looks amazing I use a Mac before instead of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► iPad in any situation is typing right right nice keyboard so I'm worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6853">TS</a>]
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01:54:39 ◼ ► founders of Harry's just ask themselves one day why the hell is it so hard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6879">TS</a>]
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01:54:55 ◼ ► up its shoplifting I guess but it just makes buying the whole pain in the ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6895">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► and why is where the blade too expensive so they started a company to disrupt the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6900">TS</a>]
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01:55:16 ◼ ► blades they bought it they were making their own plates not just some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:20 ◼ ► white label they don't just scribble the name carries on a bunch of played by on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6920">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► the market they buy high quality stuff they make high quality stuff the handles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6924">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► are great everything about the products is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:33 ◼ ► snap the blade into the handle is a nice click comes in an icebox I've said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► before I always feel terrible throwing away the Harry Fox because the paper by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► like an apple box like nobody throws away their Apple boxes and but then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:48 ◼ ► think one down my my my my bathroom is filled with empty his pockets but trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6948">TS</a>]
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01:55:59 ◼ ► cream after shave stuff that smells good they've slowly but surely since they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:04 ◼ ► started they've started expanding their range of stuff with it got a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6964">TS</a>]
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01:56:11 ◼ ► dot com and see some of the new products that they have their relatively know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6971">TS</a>]
01:56:17 ◼ ► the main thing is their starter kit is just 15 bucks that a razor three blades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6977">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► in your choice of either shave cream or the foaming shave gel and when you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:28 ◼ ► new blades this is where really kicks in it's about half the price of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6988">TS</a>]
01:56:33 ◼ ► top stuff from Gillette or sugar or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6993">TS</a>]
01:56:36 ◼ ► just go to Amazon the Amazon and like price compare like what a replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/6996">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► set of five blades from Gillette costs compared to hair carries and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► literally about you know give or take fifty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:48 ◼ ► you know it's a factor of two acts and you have the convenience readers were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7008">TS</a>]
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01:56:56 ◼ ► at your house when you need them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7016">TS</a>]
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01:57:27 ◼ ► order so my thanks to Harry's great product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7047">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► talk shows the code or save five bucks so I guess what you get the kids for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► just 10 bucks think so that's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7055">TS</a>]
01:57:39 ◼ ► great product can't believe that you buy it for him for 15 bucks you just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7059">TS</a>]
01:57:43 ◼ ► believe that 15 bucks great company so the annual schedule that's gonna go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7063">TS</a>]
01:57:56 ◼ ► delete some podcasts you but i wanna talk about the annual schedule which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7076">TS</a>]
01:58:03 ◼ ► think is for Yosemite in iOS which have stuck to for a couple of years and as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7083">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► source for this trend that we're seeing and I think part of this too is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► from within Apple is sort of a they can't winds in the area because in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:19 ◼ ► early years of the iPhone 2007 2008 the Mac they admitted even had a press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7099">TS</a>]
01:58:25 ◼ ► release the London had to publicly say we pulled engineers from Pakistan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7105">TS</a>]
01:58:30 ◼ ► to help get the news you know I was 2.0 out the door i that was less yes we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7110">TS</a>]
01:58:35 ◼ ► delaying the Mac OS till October I think it was to come out at WWDC in June right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7115">TS</a>]
01:58:41 ◼ ► now is not coming out to October you know Steve Jobs even has his name on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7121">TS</a>]
01:58:46 ◼ ► know you know that that you know that that hurt them to have to say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7126">TS</a>]
01:58:50 ◼ ► like that nothing bad happened as a result of that no but there might even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7130">TS</a>]
01:58:57 ◼ ► saying something better for it I'm just sayin know that I feel like within Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7137">TS</a>]
01:59:01 ◼ ► they're like proud of the fact that they've gotten to the point where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7141">TS</a>]
01:59:05 ◼ ► can do keep both OS's in state of constant development you know well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7145">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► don't think either yosemite or aid is so bad that I wish I hadn't upgraded no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7154">TS</a>]
01:59:22 ◼ ► they're not and that's that's the problem he gets it maybe maybe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7162">TS</a>]
01:59:26 ◼ ► part of the problem like they're not bad enough that like alarm bells are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7166">TS</a>]
01:59:30 ◼ ► off right but the rate of tiny paper cuts seems to be increasing yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7170">TS</a>]
01:59:37 ◼ ► don't like is it is it is you know if they're going to do that is this the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7177">TS</a>]
01:59:41 ◼ ► is this the way it has to be you know is there no way to either they slow down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7181">TS</a>]
01:59:46 ◼ ► one or the other operating systems or this is what we're gonna get I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7186">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► know well I I don't think a slowing down would necessarily be that bad i mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► know I'm right now we're going through a future a few big transitions in the OS's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7196">TS</a>]
02:00:01 ◼ ► and we will be going for them over the last couple of releases where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7201">TS</a>]
02:00:04 ◼ ► iowa 7 was the massive redesign in addition to a whole buncha new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7204">TS</a>]
02:00:08 ◼ ► frameworks under the hood I ate at the whole extension system which is a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7208">TS</a>]
02:00:14 ◼ ► substantial thing and the whole the whole idea of having these cross in turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7214">TS</a>]
02:00:19 ◼ ► in application not just extensions in particular extensions right one version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7219">TS</a>]
02:00:24 ◼ ► but the way that so much of what how we interact with the system is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7224">TS</a>]
02:00:28 ◼ ► through these species species stuff and so instead of having things that run in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7228">TS</a>]
02:00:36 ◼ ► Europe and if they go bad crash out there outside Europe in a sandbox and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7236">TS</a>]
02:00:41 ◼ ► it's it's not just one thing like sharing extensions it's a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7241">TS</a>]
02:00:46 ◼ ► things it's a big transition and so we're going through transitions like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7246">TS</a>]
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02:00:56 ◼ ► their leases will usually be you know maybe this problem will will settle down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7256">TS</a>]
02:01:00 ◼ ► in the next couple of releases just by nature of they've now they've been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7260">TS</a>]
02:01:05 ◼ ► now on the other side of these giant transitions but unlike you know when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7265">TS</a>]
02:01:10 ◼ ► call something a stable release some part of it is just like a marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7270">TS</a>]
02:01:14 ◼ ► value some part of it is like you know we're going to declare this explains 0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7274">TS</a>]
02:01:17 ◼ ► and that's reason number doesn't mean anything but you could always choose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7277">TS</a>]
02:01:23 ◼ ► just put less in each one and and still kinda have the best of both worlds but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7283">TS</a>]
02:01:28 ◼ ► some part of it also is a good guy was simply the way that the the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7288">TS</a>]
02:01:32 ◼ ► development pace of like how how the year is spent half the time between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7292">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► releases a spent between like you know watching fixing the bugs then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:42 ◼ ► kind of quiet period research developing the next day off and then and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7302">TS</a>]
02:01:45 ◼ ► know betta for the next thing and then launch the next thing that will still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7305">TS</a>]
02:01:50 ◼ ► a problem that will still be this compressed version even if you guys do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7310">TS</a>]
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02:01:58 ◼ ► each version and release them every year I also you know it's important to point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7318">TS</a>]
02:02:02 ◼ ► out for the marketing value of this that this is a pretty young thing it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7322">TS</a>]
02:02:07 ◼ ► young for iPhones necessarily you know most iPhones have caused have coincided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7327">TS</a>]
02:02:13 ◼ ► with new iOS releases or at least been fairly close to them but they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7333">TS</a>]
02:02:20 ◼ ► to be no I think there's always been I don't think there's ever been an iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7340">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► that hasn't coincided with a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:25 ◼ ► unless it's just that I couldn't think of a continued the earlier ones know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7345">TS</a>]
02:02:29 ◼ ► there's never been land they've never been one that can run the old OS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7349">TS</a>]
02:02:34 ◼ ► some of them like in the iOS three hours for era were not so heavily new features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7354">TS</a>]
02:02:40 ◼ ► and you know was little bit more you know just expanding the foundation but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7360">TS</a>]
02:02:46 ◼ ► it was always a new point out to coincide with the new phone right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7366">TS</a>]
02:02:51 ◼ ► then sometimes they haven't been that way like iPads like the affairs of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7371">TS</a>]
02:02:55 ◼ ► first iPad with iOS 3.2 it was a special build a special track for the iPad right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7375">TS</a>]
02:03:01 ◼ ► that wasn't unified until iOS 4.2 or 4.1 it was it was even I was for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7381">TS</a>]
02:03:07 ◼ ► time the iPhone wasn't even running the iPad and then for her 14 points to unify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7387">TS</a>]
02:03:11 ◼ ► them so they have released heart is that much of the recent high-profile Harbor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7391">TS</a>]
02:03:17 ◼ ► has launched with newest versions but not all of it has and when it hasnt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7397">TS</a>]
02:03:22 ◼ ► nothing bad happened like they were there was no real downside to the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7402">TS</a>]
02:03:28 ◼ ► shipping with 3.2 instead of waiting for 4 p.m. to be ready to ship the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7408">TS</a>]
02:03:32 ◼ ► products there was also no major downside to the iPad not even getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7412">TS</a>]
02:03:37 ◼ ► four Pinocchios it wasn't ready yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7417">TS</a>]
02:03:39 ◼ ► like you know a few people but it wasn't it wasn't a huge deal and it didn't hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7419">TS</a>]
02:03:45 ◼ ► the sales of the iPad really it didn't hurt the iPhone it didn't hurt I was for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7425">TS</a>]
02:03:48 ◼ ► like it just didn't it wasn't a big deal right famously the iPad in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7428">TS</a>]
02:03:52 ◼ ► add more explosive sales in those early years than it has now you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7432">TS</a>]
02:03:59 ◼ ► reasons but still so you know max are released all the time and if if if a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7439">TS</a>]
02:04:06 ◼ ► version of Mac OS 10 is going to be due soon they'll tell usually hold it seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7446">TS</a>]
02:04:11 ◼ ► like an iMac will usually hold it for that for that same event then they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7451">TS</a>]
02:04:16 ◼ ► ship together but you know a Mac could be released next month and it'll run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7456">TS</a>]
02:04:21 ◼ ► OS that's from four months ago over five months ago never and doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7461">TS</a>]
02:04:25 ◼ ► nothing nothing bad happens no one says all Apple should have listened to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7465">TS</a>]
02:04:28 ◼ ► with these new MacBook Airs like no doesn't matter at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7468">TS</a>]
02:04:31 ◼ ► doesn't even come up so I question the value of having this dislike lockstep of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7471">TS</a>]
02:04:38 ◼ ► of major OS is tied to major hard early as i think is mostly self-imposed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7478">TS</a>]
02:04:43 ◼ ► think they do it that way because they like to do it that way or they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7483">TS</a>]
02:04:46 ◼ ► they should do it that way but when it hasn't gone that way I think the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7486">TS</a>]
02:04:51 ◼ ► has spoken loud and clear that it doesn't really matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7491">TS</a>]
02:04:54 ◼ ► yeah I kind of agree with that I do you know and I don't think that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7494">TS</a>]
02:04:57 ◼ ► superficial is that they want to do it so that they have more to show in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7497">TS</a>]
02:05:02 ◼ ► keynote but you know I think there's something loosely along those lines over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7502">TS</a>]
02:05:08 ◼ ► they they you know it's easier easier to market when there's more new features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7508">TS</a>]
02:05:13 ◼ ► right and that's what I mean when I say that marketing is becoming to higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7513">TS</a>]
02:05:20 ◼ ► priority it's it's not that like his and that no one of things but I never said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7520">TS</a>]
02:05:25 ◼ ► the marketing department because I what I didn't want to say is like Phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7525">TS</a>]
02:05:30 ◼ ► Schiller is personally controlling apple and killing the battery is goals I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7530">TS</a>]
02:05:34 ◼ ► that's not what that's not what I meant I mean that the the idea of marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7534">TS</a>]
02:05:38 ◼ ► the benefits of this annual schedule and of locked up in them with the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7538">TS</a>]
02:05:44 ◼ ► that is too high priority that is taking priority seemingly over software quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7544">TS</a>]
02:05:49 ◼ ► and that is what I have a problem with and that and that is not a departmental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7549">TS</a>]
02:05:53 ◼ ► thing as far as I know you know I don't I don't think there is presently taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7553">TS</a>]
02:05:58 ◼ ► over the company in having these bad sorry I seriously doubt that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7558">TS</a>]
02:06:02 ◼ ► it's like the company has decided as a whole at the high level like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7562">TS</a>]
02:06:07 ◼ ► schedule is is right for the company this is what we're going to do we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7567">TS</a>]
02:06:11 ◼ ► going to we're going to have these anywhere leases were going to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7571">TS</a>]
02:06:15 ◼ ► tidy things lockstep so that hardware releases with software yeah and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7575">TS</a>]
02:06:18 ◼ ► always said you know I think you see your point is well put and I i've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7578">TS</a>]
02:06:25 ◼ ► marketing at apple doesn't work like it does it a lot of other companies I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7585">TS</a>]
02:06:29 ◼ ► know about most other companies I don't know but I think the traditional way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7589">TS</a>]
02:06:32 ◼ ► where marketing is like icing on the cake and it's like products go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7592">TS</a>]
02:06:37 ◼ ► development and when you're done being developed a hand them over to marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7597">TS</a>]
02:06:40 ◼ ► and marketing figures out a box and a tagline promises it you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7600">TS</a>]
02:06:46 ◼ ► better I've always said that one way to think of it is it be better than you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7606">TS</a>]
02:06:50 ◼ ► better understand Phil Schiller's responsibilities if you took the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7610">TS</a>]
02:06:54 ◼ ► marketing out of his title and just thought of him as senior vice president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7614">TS</a>]
02:06:57 ◼ ► of product exactly its inextricably time you know it the advertising of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7617">TS</a>]
02:07:05 ◼ ► products the marketing of the products is inextricably tied to the development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7625">TS</a>]
02:07:10 ◼ ► of the products from the get-go it's it's one in the same rally they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7630">TS</a>]
02:07:17 ◼ ► they're not going to make a product that there's no clear market for the doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7637">TS</a>]
02:07:20 ◼ ► fit into their marketing messages all right and that makes their marketing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7640">TS</a>]
02:07:26 ◼ ► think refreshingly honest that what they are bragging about about their products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7646">TS</a>]
02:07:31 ◼ ► is usually true I mean most of their marketing is like here is what our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7651">TS</a>]
02:07:36 ◼ ► product is . they don't need that much more when the MacBook Air Force came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7656">TS</a>]
02:07:42 ◼ ► and they had to add work him out of an envelope and they really look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7662">TS</a>]
02:07:46 ◼ ► laptop its crazy thinning Crazy Light well that's exactly what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7666">TS</a>]
02:07:51 ◼ ► yeah there was no no spin on it no lie you know we'll get to in a few minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7671">TS</a>]
02:07:58 ◼ ► but maybe something I i think the the annual review cycle i think is a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7678">TS</a>]
02:08:05 ◼ ► part of the quality problems the quality decline did I think precede it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7685">TS</a>]
02:08:11 ◼ ► end of your cycle is pretty yummy what are they started with Lion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7691">TS</a>]
02:08:16 ◼ ► I think it when they went from line two mountain lion that was the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7696">TS</a>]
02:08:19 ◼ ► year and if ya was a little bit more than a year it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7699">TS</a>]
02:08:24 ◼ ► i'm looking at the Wikipedia page now Mac OS 10 10.7 Lion shipped in October [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7704">TS</a>]
02:08:32 ◼ ► 2010 and mountain lion was announced February 2012 that was Trevor a 2012 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7712">TS</a>]
02:08:40 ◼ ► that was the one where they had like the private briefings killer told you to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7720">TS</a>]
02:08:47 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah yeah I think that was when this started was was roughly then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7727">TS</a>]
02:08:51 ◼ ► you know that they meant there is but so you know that I should say yes I i maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7731">TS</a>]
02:08:59 ◼ ► I i overemphasize the cyclical nature of Apple we've really only had two releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7739">TS</a>]
02:09:03 ◼ ► that follow the current cycle of a June announcement and in October debut right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7743">TS</a>]
02:09:09 ◼ ► I have been working system because the phone schedule has been pretty much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7749">TS</a>]
02:09:12 ◼ ► same shifted from June to September whatever but otherwise yeah getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7752">TS</a>]
02:09:17 ◼ ► summer 10 designer right exactly but overall i phone has been consistent it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7757">TS</a>]
02:09:22 ◼ ► only really matters become inconsistent recently that is now consistent and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7762">TS</a>]
02:09:28 ◼ ► used to be annual in the early years because it was so bad and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7768">TS</a>]
02:09:35 ◼ ► yeah I like now it's like i don't see that as a Mac user I don't really see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7775">TS</a>]
02:09:41 ◼ ► lot of value in having the the main OS I use for all of my work frequently I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7781">TS</a>]
02:09:48 ◼ ► don't see the point that the only reason I got yosemite when I did was I bought a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7788">TS</a>]
02:09:52 ◼ ► new computer came with it I would have waited probably until a point to most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7792">TS</a>]
02:09:57 ◼ ► likely before install it I never thought enameled pewter I only because the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7797">TS</a>]
02:10:02 ◼ ► computer game with it and can't be downgraded end because like I am very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7802">TS</a>]
02:10:07 ◼ ► risk-averse with my work computer right like if I'm in the middle of a project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7807">TS</a>]
02:10:11 ◼ ► which I almost always AM I will put off any updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7811">TS</a>]
02:10:15 ◼ ► even even an ex point to 6.3 like I'll put that off until I'm like done editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7815">TS</a>]
02:10:21 ◼ ► the podcast week just in case something bad happens you know something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7821">TS</a>]
02:10:23 ◼ ► yeah my way is always been a computer at my desk that my quote mean computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7823">TS</a>]
02:10:29 ◼ ► I'll keep that in a conservative base and then have a laptop give two craps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7829">TS</a>]
02:10:36 ◼ ► about if not I don't care about it but that I don't care if you get buggy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7836">TS</a>]
02:10:40 ◼ ► then I'll install developer beta zone in my lifetime actually runs the it sits on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7840">TS</a>]
02:10:45 ◼ ► the Use Somebody baited mainly through the App Store so yeah so much content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7845">TS</a>]
02:10:49 ◼ ► and two orders yeah I regretted terribly that actually use a computer that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7849">TS</a>]
02:10:54 ◼ ► actually not been a problem for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7854">TS</a>]
02:10:56 ◼ ► well there's one particular bug that really it's driving me nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7856">TS</a>]
02:10:59 ◼ ► diction and I know how universal is but for me at least you know the dictionary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7859">TS</a>]
02:11:03 ◼ ► lookup feature you can do I change my shortcut I think the standard one maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7863">TS</a>]
02:11:08 ◼ ► control command D IIC I was forgot that I still want the dictionary app from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7868">TS</a>]
02:11:12 ◼ ► swallowed every time or you know this is a crucial case you can triple tap on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7872">TS</a>]
02:11:16 ◼ ► trackpad over a word not click Tamara or triple tap and you get it online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7876">TS</a>]
02:11:22 ◼ ► dictionary lookup of whatever word you want to use it all the time that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7882">TS</a>]
02:11:26 ◼ ► crashes Mars edit it doesn't crash BBEdit button BBEdit it leaves the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7886">TS</a>]
02:11:34 ◼ ► of the word on screen that's what it's like something change between 10 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7894">TS</a>]
02:11:39 ◼ ► intend to with third party apps in the dictionary lookup and I do it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7899">TS</a>]
02:11:42 ◼ ► time and I know I know it's gonna crash but I don't think about it I think I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7902">TS</a>]
02:11:46 ◼ ► a look at this rate crippled tempted boom now all the apps a user like Mars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7906">TS</a>]
02:11:52 ◼ ► BBEdit they all auto save everything so I don't lose data but it's still a yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7912">TS</a>]
02:11:58 ◼ ► and it's just this is the property of certain little things like that i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7918">TS</a>]
02:12:01 ◼ ► but it's a beta so I'm not complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7921">TS</a>]
02:12:03 ◼ ► here's the here's the historical scheduled for Mac OS 10 so 10.0 came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7923">TS</a>]
02:12:08 ◼ ► and early 2001 and it really counts as a pilot and in 10 one came out in July [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7928">TS</a>]
02:12:14 ◼ ► later the same year when it just from March to July it came out with a with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7934">TS</a>]
02:12:22 ◼ ► major version of Mac OS 10 10.2 was made 2002 10.3 was June 2003 dessert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7942">TS</a>]
02:12:31 ◼ ► announcement date states I guess I should do really States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7951">TS</a>]
02:12:34 ◼ ► then we waited I go almost two years for 10 for Tiger which is really where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7954">TS</a>]
02:12:40 ◼ ► feel like they tied it off and relax okay we're done with like the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7960">TS</a>]
02:12:44 ◼ ► years of Pakistan yeah I came in with Tiger even went all the way to Tiger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7964">TS</a>]
02:12:49 ◼ ► went all the way to ten point for point 11 which is the highest they've ever got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7969">TS</a>]
02:12:54 ◼ ► yet the highest ever got no 10612 10680 but there was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7974">TS</a>]
02:13:01 ◼ ► Wikipedia lists a 10 68 V 1.1 but that's where they switched to like two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7981">TS</a>]
02:13:10 ◼ ► and in fact 10 5 didn't come out until October 26 2007 thats the one with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7990">TS</a>]
02:13:17 ◼ ► delayed once it was about two and a half years and that was a really stable time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/7997">TS</a>]
02:13:22 ◼ ► by the way this i think is the high-water mark that you know then again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8002">TS</a>]
02:13:27 ◼ ► like his jacket had a web weblog post in response to your thing you know don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8007">TS</a>]
02:13:35 ◼ ► rose-colored glasses don't have too strong a prescription in her ass colored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8015">TS</a>]
02:13:40 ◼ ► glasses I got the people who allegedly like webOS but you know I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8020">TS</a>]
02:13:46 ◼ ► there's something to it being a high-water mark this era high-water mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8026">TS</a>]
02:13:51 ◼ ► for stability system wide yeah I mean everybody glorifies 10 6 also because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8031">TS</a>]
02:13:57 ◼ ► that was the famous one that this had no new features were just going to work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8037">TS</a>]
02:14:01 ◼ ► a book on the under the hood stuff right and it was successful and it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8041">TS</a>]
02:14:05 ◼ ► brought in tons of Martha burning Grand Central Dispatch among other things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8045">TS</a>]
02:14:09 ◼ ► included those included in the fact that it had a new features is it was two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8049">TS</a>]
02:14:12 ◼ ► years after 10 5 leopard came out so it was two years since the release it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8052">TS</a>]
02:14:19 ◼ ► this is you know was released in 2009 this is a nurse and was announced in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8059">TS</a>]
02:14:26 ◼ ► June 2008 but didn't get released until August 2009 and remember that remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8066">TS</a>]
02:14:31 ◼ ► it being a year in beta but it doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8071">TS</a>]
02:14:35 ◼ ► if the WPD it's got to be true of course but it was two years and a new features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8075">TS</a>]
02:14:42 ◼ ► and it was two years until we got line so there is like this four-year period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8082">TS</a>]
02:14:46 ◼ ► and again no new features is kind of bullshit I mean like adding Grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8086">TS</a>]
02:14:50 ◼ ► Central Dispatch it's not a feature because it's not like a thing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8090">TS</a>]
02:14:53 ◼ ► can put a commercial but right it's clearly you know a huge features just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8093">TS</a>]
02:14:57 ◼ ► behind the scenes developer feature but that's like a four-year period where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8097">TS</a>]
02:15:02 ◼ ► they didn't really have a lot of user facing features added and is widely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8102">TS</a>]
02:15:08 ◼ ► viewed I think accurately so sort of the high-water mark of of stability and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8108">TS</a>]
02:15:14 ◼ ► you know part of that could be rasco glasses but I think there is a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8114">TS</a>]
02:15:18 ◼ ► truth to that we might see something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8118">TS</a>]
02:15:21 ◼ ► dunno like you said they're going through transitions now and I cloud is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8121">TS</a>]
02:15:26 ◼ ► certainly one of them I think the other transition are going through is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8126">TS</a>]
02:15:30 ◼ ► general idea of iOS and Mac being siblings right leg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8130">TS</a>]
02:15:36 ◼ ► you know tied together the best example of that best examples gotta be the iWork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8136">TS</a>]
02:15:42 ◼ ► the new versions of all the iWork apps were now they're saying these are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8142">TS</a>]
02:15:45 ◼ ► exact same file formats between the two even if that means that the Mac version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8145">TS</a>]
02:15:50 ◼ ► is gonna lose a bunch of cool features and eventually presumably they gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8150">TS</a>]
02:15:55 ◼ ► them get those features back but then we'll have them on both platforms will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8155">TS</a>]
02:15:59 ◼ ► have a nice kerning bonds on iOS in addition to pack a perfect example but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8159">TS</a>]
02:16:07 ◼ ► they're doing that in little ways in a bunch of apps ran a lot of a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8167">TS</a>]
02:16:12 ◼ ► underlying frameworks are also being unified a lot of the underlying API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8172">TS</a>]
02:16:15 ◼ ► stuff the SDK is a lot of that has been unified unless couple releases they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8175">TS</a>]
02:16:20 ◼ ► both gone through the major visual redesigns more so when I S but still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8180">TS</a>]
02:16:25 ◼ ► oklahoma is no snow / in the department so they have gone through a lot in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8185">TS</a>]
02:16:30 ◼ ► last couple of years and I don't expect either of those things to happen again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8190">TS</a>]
02:16:33 ◼ ► anytime soon either I think we're at least five six seven years from either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8193">TS</a>]
02:16:37 ◼ ► OS getting a major visual refresh rather you know just an annual tightening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8197">TS</a>]
02:16:42 ◼ ► yeah swiftest me a little bit opposed because you know right now it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8202">TS</a>]
02:16:48 ◼ ► announced nothing written inside of Apple was using swift yet and none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8208">TS</a>]
02:16:53 ◼ ► the frameworks you Swift natively none of them were written in swift natively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8213">TS</a>]
02:16:56 ◼ ► least not as last year so you know introducing a whole new programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8216">TS</a>]
02:17:01 ◼ ► language that certainly begs for certain for a lot of things to be rewritten in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8221">TS</a>]
02:17:05 ◼ ► it that might be a major thing that is potentially a burden or distraction on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8225">TS</a>]
02:17:12 ◼ ► the engineering teams I also question whether that is what they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8232">TS</a>]
02:17:15 ◼ ► doing with their time in general though I think they the next couple releases a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8235">TS</a>]
02:17:22 ◼ ► very good reason to be less ambitious and and more stable I hope so before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8242">TS</a>]
02:17:31 ◼ ► move on to talk about that MacBook then the other thought I had is that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8251">TS</a>]
02:17:38 ◼ ► with regard to these little nagging supposed to just work but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8258">TS</a>]
02:17:42 ◼ ► just work a lot of it has to do with wireless networking and stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8262">TS</a>]
02:17:49 ◼ ► supposed to happen between two devices like from me in particular airdrop is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8269">TS</a>]
02:17:53 ◼ ► amazing airdrop works absolutely great and I use it all the time like where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8273">TS</a>]
02:17:58 ◼ ► on the phone and I have all I want to link to this room during fireball and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8278">TS</a>]
02:18:01 ◼ ► instead of doing what I used to do it like send it to pin board or so go to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8281">TS</a>]
02:18:05 ◼ ► Mac I just tear drop it to my Mac as soon as my Mac wakes up and IT boom it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8285">TS</a>]
02:18:10 ◼ ► there and it's nothing to clean up I don't have to race or let language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8290">TS</a>]
02:18:15 ◼ ► forever in old pinboard bookmark that I really just wanted to Java between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8295">TS</a>]
02:18:20 ◼ ► two is great but I've heard from people who say airdrop never works but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8300">TS</a>]
02:18:26 ◼ ► what gives me pause is that a lot of these things are these little nagging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8306">TS</a>]
02:18:30 ◼ ► two things that are supposed to talk to each other over Bluetooth or WiFi or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8310">TS</a>]
02:18:34 ◼ ► whatever don't really quite work the way they're supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8314">TS</a>]
02:18:38 ◼ ► is that is the entire description of Apple watch right like the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8318">TS</a>]
02:18:44 ◼ ► things that don't just work are the only things up a watch exists for there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8324">TS</a>]
02:18:49 ◼ ► nothing else there is other than telling time there's nothing else that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8329">TS</a>]
02:18:53 ◼ ► then these little Wireless interactions sort of dancing all day long with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8333">TS</a>]
02:19:00 ◼ ► devices even though earlier like you can't even sync Apple watch with a cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8340">TS</a>]
02:19:06 ◼ ► no like there's no ports on it you can only charge everything so I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8346">TS</a>]
02:19:14 ◼ ► this too has one thing though the Apple watch it can go either way I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8354">TS</a>]
02:19:20 ◼ ► can look at it from one side you could say well this is gonna be a brand-new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8360">TS</a>]
02:19:24 ◼ ► 1.0 of everything and it's gonna be potentially a huge drain and engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8364">TS</a>]
02:19:30 ◼ ► resources at Apple and focus from Apple which could bode very poorly for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8370">TS</a>]
02:19:34 ◼ ► quality going forward or you can look at it as maybe the Apple bought will take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8374">TS</a>]
02:19:40 ◼ ► some of the marketing burden for a while and let them be a little more boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8380">TS</a>]
02:19:44 ◼ ► with the with iOS and OS 10 and poor enormous resources into things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8384">TS</a>]
02:19:49 ◼ ► getting the Bluecoat Bluetooth stack in really tip-top shape right like so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8389">TS</a>]
02:19:56 ◼ ► think this could this this is a wildcard I I think the watch I don't think I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8396">TS</a>]
02:20:01 ◼ ► I could be wrong I don't think the watch is going to require a massive amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8401">TS</a>]
02:20:07 ◼ ► engineering software engineering it simply can't do that much at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8407">TS</a>]
02:20:11 ◼ ► hardware is very simple you know it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8411">TS</a>]
02:20:14 ◼ ► relative to the two other things iOS does for instance all the things Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8414">TS</a>]
02:20:18 ◼ ► 10 does I don't think it's going to require massive engineering resources to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8418">TS</a>]
02:20:22 ◼ ► to get it through its first couple of years again that could be totally wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8422">TS</a>]
02:20:27 ◼ ► I don't know but just as a relative thing I think it's probably a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8427">TS</a>]
02:20:31 ◼ ► smaller project but it will end and i also dont know how welcome to sell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8431">TS</a>]
02:20:36 ◼ ► know it it could end up being you know just like new iPods basically I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8436">TS</a>]
02:20:41 ◼ ► just be like it could disappoint a lot of analysts could disappoint Apple it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8441">TS</a>]
02:20:45 ◼ ► could sell you know a few million here there you know but but not set the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8445">TS</a>]
02:20:50 ◼ ► on fire and not be ubiquitous among a people or it could set them on fire and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8450">TS</a>]
02:20:54 ◼ ► it could sell tremendously and it could like we have no idea how is gonna sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8454">TS</a>]
02:20:58 ◼ ► you think that that might determine some of its few some of the company's future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8458">TS</a>]
02:21:02 ◼ ► priorities and direction I think the single single I think it's if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8462">TS</a>]
02:21:05 ◼ ► works as advertised its gonna sell very well and I think the single thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8465">TS</a>]
02:21:09 ◼ ► could sink it would be if it comes out next month that our 22 month whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8469">TS</a>]
02:21:14 ◼ ► it's was to come out and there's a bunch of little nagging bugs with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8474">TS</a>]
02:21:20 ◼ ► interactivity with your iPhone and you know your text messages are supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8480">TS</a>]
02:21:25 ◼ ► be showing up on your wrist and they don't or it's not supposed to drain your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8485">TS</a>]
02:21:29 ◼ ► battery but when you sync but you know when you have an eye you you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8489">TS</a>]
02:21:33 ◼ ► put your Apple watch on and your phone which is typically get you through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8493">TS</a>]
02:21:37 ◼ ► whole day is in the red by noon that's good that would be a huge problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8497">TS</a>]
02:21:41 ◼ ► because I it's not that they can't fix those bugs it's that the perception will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8501">TS</a>]
02:21:47 ◼ ► hit while its young that the thing doesn't work like it's supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8507">TS</a>]
02:21:50 ◼ ► and that sort of thing is very very hard to shake oh yeah I mean if becomes part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8510">TS</a>]
02:21:55 ◼ ► of people's texts superstitions to like oh you better like only turn on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8515">TS</a>]
02:21:59 ◼ ► Bluetooth you're doing the washing turn on your phone to save your battery like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8519">TS</a>]
02:22:02 ◼ ► yeah stuff starts getting into like the the culture as as common wisdom and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8522">TS</a>]
02:22:06 ◼ ► know it could it could become the next could all your apps thing where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8526">TS</a>]
02:22:09 ◼ ► that's harmful that's why I wrote when I linked to your thing that it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8529">TS</a>]
02:22:14 ◼ ► perception like to me the biggest problem with this trend and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8534">TS</a>]
02:22:17 ◼ ► resignation that your post is that it's by Apple leaving these things you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8537">TS</a>]
02:22:26 ◼ ► leaving some ground at the functional leaving some of the area to function on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8546">TS</a>]
02:22:31 ◼ ► high ground whatever you now have best title ever although I do I i disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8551">TS</a>]
02:22:37 ◼ ► with your analysis that you have to lose the high ground to someone else I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8557">TS</a>]
02:22:41 ◼ ► you can lose like what the moral high ground you can lose the moral high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8561">TS</a>]
02:22:45 ◼ ► ground without someone else becoming better than you at it you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8565">TS</a>]
02:22:49 ◼ ► become worse a day or so yeah I know what you mean it's not quite it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8569">TS</a>]
02:22:56 ◼ ► quite fair that I said it you have to lose it to him I do think it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8576">TS</a>]
02:22:59 ◼ ► important point I worry though that the fact that I thought that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8579">TS</a>]
02:23:04 ◼ ► occurred to me later three thinking that it could be a worrisome sign that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8584">TS</a>]
02:23:09 ◼ ► Apple people is that Apple see it the same way will you lose it to that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8589">TS</a>]
02:23:14 ◼ ► Brian what I did see though right away is that it did that to me is already a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8594">TS</a>]
02:23:19 ◼ ► problem and is the fact that so many people seem to agree with you is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8599">TS</a>]
02:23:24 ◼ ► problem and it's the perception because it doesn't matter whether we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8604">TS</a>]
02:23:29 ◼ ► over-reacting most people our age if it if that becomes the perception it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8609">TS</a>]
02:23:34 ◼ ► for Apple to shake that they can fix the bugs they can significantly improve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8614">TS</a>]
02:23:39 ◼ ► quality of their platforms across the board and people won't notice because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8619">TS</a>]
02:23:43 ◼ ► there's this perception that the stuff doesn't work right and and there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8623">TS</a>]
02:23:48 ◼ ► of reasons why the perception is reasonable if if you look at the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8628">TS</a>]
02:23:53 ◼ ► issues people have had applying iOS updates over the last couple of years if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8633">TS</a>]
02:23:58 ◼ ► you look at how I was a bit have performed an old hardware of the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8638">TS</a>]
02:24:01 ◼ ► couple years a lot of people are understandably wary they've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8641">TS</a>]
02:24:05 ◼ ► burned before and and they like now they're like oh I don't want to update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8645">TS</a>]
02:24:09 ◼ ► because I heard a Brooks people's phones or broke my phone or my family slow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8649">TS</a>]
02:24:15 ◼ ► one that they pushed it was bad because there's always gonna be bugs and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8655">TS</a>]
02:24:17 ◼ ► always going to be there's always going to be weird you know who knows I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8657">TS</a>]
02:24:21 ◼ ► freakin ion from outer space heater phone the wrong way and corrupts some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8661">TS</a>]
02:24:26 ◼ ► part of the OS you know and have something in the flash memory gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8666">TS</a>]
02:24:29 ◼ ► corrupted in a software update bricks your phone and doesn't break your wife's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8669">TS</a>]
02:24:36 ◼ ► well you know one in a one in 10,000 get pricked by an update all those sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8676">TS</a>]
02:24:41 ◼ ► bugs happen they suck but they happened you can't say you can never do that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8681">TS</a>]
02:24:45 ◼ ► you i think it's fair to say you can never push out an over the air update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8685">TS</a>]
02:24:48 ◼ ► their breaks every phone that takes it like that just is that was just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8688">TS</a>]
02:24:52 ◼ ► inexcusable slip and creates again this perception that when you see it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8692">TS</a>]
02:24:58 ◼ ► your phone tells you hey there's a new iOS you should not be worried you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8698">TS</a>]
02:25:04 ◼ ► you know I know some people who don't you know you just keep that red badge on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8704">TS</a>]
02:25:08 ◼ ► you know the settings up because they don't want to install it I am I'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8708">TS</a>]
02:25:13 ◼ ► restoring IOS 6 because when I was 17 matches on the news about the motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8713">TS</a>]
02:25:18 ◼ ► sickness and she got scared and she refused to install a seven-year never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8718">TS</a>]
02:25:21 ◼ ► even seen it right so she's just got a red badge honors last two years she'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8721">TS</a>]
02:25:28 ◼ ► yeah so anyway I think that perception is important and in a related to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8728">TS</a>]
02:25:37 ◼ ► news and I know it was a very different Apple in the nineties and they were so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8737">TS</a>]
02:25:42 ◼ ► small and you know something like the new appeared to so few people but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8742">TS</a>]
02:25:48 ◼ ► mainstream stuff you know that everybody in sight the doonesbury cartoon them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8748">TS</a>]
02:25:53 ◼ ► made fun of it and the simpsons made fun of it too so I mean it was popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8753">TS</a>]
02:25:57 ◼ ► enough that it was mister simpson eggs it got ads stink on it that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8757">TS</a>]
02:26:03 ◼ ► handwriting recognition doesn't work so that you could make doonesbury in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8763">TS</a>]
02:26:08 ◼ ► simpson's gags about it it didn't take that long though before the handwriting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8768">TS</a>]
02:26:12 ◼ ► got pretty darn good on you know like the message pad 2000 it was pretty it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8772">TS</a>]
02:26:17 ◼ ► was about as good as you could hope that I 1995 1996 computer could recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8777">TS</a>]
02:26:24 ◼ ► your handwriting it was really pretty good nobody really got everybody you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8784">TS</a>]
02:26:29 ◼ ► say new dates a goofy terrible handwriting recognition of the most had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8789">TS</a>]
02:26:33 ◼ ► never tried one no but if if Apple watch comes out and in the first year it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8793">TS</a>]
02:26:40 ◼ ► like none of the stuff that supposed to do works reliably be hard to shake even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8800">TS</a>]
02:26:46 ◼ ► if they fix it yester like it's really important that it that it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8806">TS</a>]
02:26:51 ◼ ► everything it supposed to do pretty well and again that sounds like a stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8811">TS</a>]
02:26:56 ◼ ► thing to say it as I will everything you should do what it's supposed to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8816">TS</a>]
02:26:59 ◼ ► pretty well but like with a new product is essential because the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8819">TS</a>]
02:27:03 ◼ ► impression is so much it informs you know a decade of what you're gonna think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8823">TS</a>]
02:27:11 ◼ ► the first iPhone it was so important that it really was an amazing device I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8831">TS</a>]
02:27:16 ◼ ► really couldn't be a better device and then and there is a substantial number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8836">TS</a>]
02:27:20 ◼ ► of people both just who can't wait for Apple to fail so they can talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8840">TS</a>]
02:27:26 ◼ ► makes fun of it and and pointed out and left and also a lot of people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8846">TS</a>]
02:27:30 ◼ ► going to be looking for a reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8850">TS</a>]
02:27:32 ◼ ► are going to be looking for a reason for Apple not just to fail somehow yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8852">TS</a>]
02:27:36 ◼ ► waiting for Apple to fail and is also going to be a lot of people out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8856">TS</a>]
02:27:40 ◼ ► who are looking for reasons why they don't need to care about the epilogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8860">TS</a>]
02:27:44 ◼ ► still looking for an excuse not to buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8864">TS</a>]
02:27:46 ◼ ► they're looking for a way to a reason to rule out in their in their head as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8866">TS</a>]
02:27:50 ◼ ► irrelevant they'll move on and so any animal that is provided to that is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8870">TS</a>]
02:27:56 ◼ ► to gamble fight like crazy and you know that be very careful not to give much a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8876">TS</a>]
02:28:00 ◼ ► month that you know there's gonna be some kind of gate but everything Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8880">TS</a>]
02:28:03 ◼ ► launches now every stupid gate that comes out of the new iPhone like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8883">TS</a>]
02:28:08 ◼ ► there's gonna be some kind of watch gate and and they have to make sure that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8888">TS</a>]
02:28:12 ◼ ► something that's you know reasonably stupid like bent gate and not something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8892">TS</a>]
02:28:17 ◼ ► serious right well imagine if it's a real thing like if bengay got as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8897">TS</a>]
02:28:23 ◼ ► publicity as it did it was mostly nonsense and antennagate got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8903">TS</a>]
02:28:28 ◼ ► enormous boobs and was in the long run mostly nonsense imagine a real problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8908">TS</a>]
02:28:36 ◼ ► you know you know you're supposed to be able to hold the button and dictate your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8916">TS</a>]
02:28:41 ◼ ► you know texts to your watch and in defense did you just get a spinner that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8921">TS</a>]
02:28:46 ◼ ► spins and spins in spending in ever greater tax that's a problem right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8926">TS</a>]
02:28:51 ◼ ► so like these quality things are extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8931">TS</a>]
02:28:54 ◼ ► you know this is like i've been critical of of their developer policies recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8934">TS</a>]
02:28:58 ◼ ► I've said is like this is strategically a very bad time to have problems in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8938">TS</a>]
02:29:03 ◼ ► area because the washes coming out and and and when the watch is coming out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8943">TS</a>]
02:29:08 ◼ ► need the quality of everything that's that's powering it on the phone side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8948">TS</a>]
02:29:12 ◼ ► they all every not supplying it with the data that we have easily you the quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8952">TS</a>]
02:29:16 ◼ ► of that to be tip top that with the watch can at least focus on its only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8956">TS</a>]
02:29:20 ◼ ► those teams can rely on that and then the watch can have the solid foundation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8960">TS</a>]
02:29:24 ◼ ► it and you also need developers who are empowered and willing and happy to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8964">TS</a>]
02:29:31 ◼ ► developing apps for this platform and that they are going to push the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8971">TS</a>]
02:29:34 ◼ ► boundaries I'm a cool apps for it so two things that mark fuhrman reported on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8974">TS</a>]
02:29:40 ◼ ► same day this week but he reported first about that this showing mock-ups of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8980">TS</a>]
02:29:45 ◼ ► 12 inch MacBook Air but he also said the date was planning for a March release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8985">TS</a>]
02:29:51 ◼ ► date of Apple watch that surprised me a little if it's true that sounded late to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8991">TS</a>]
02:29:56 ◼ ► me I really I thought that sounded early I really expected late April or May [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/8996">TS</a>]
02:30:01 ◼ ► maybe I don't know you know we I think we heard rumblings a couple of weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9001">TS</a>]
02:30:05 ◼ ► that it would be like February but it doesn't matter I mean it will come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9005">TS</a>]
02:30:09 ◼ ► when I would rather have a come out when it's when it's better than come out when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9009">TS</a>]
02:30:14 ◼ ► is not quite ready so that's why it doesn't matter I guess you know i i i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9014">TS</a>]
02:30:20 ◼ ► guess its just the pessimism me they say early 2015 I hear before June you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9020">TS</a>]
02:30:25 ◼ ► you here may 31st right whereas I guess the more honest way of looking at it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9025">TS</a>]
02:30:31 ◼ ► early as first quarter I don't know maybe it well I'm a little surprised by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9031">TS</a>]
02:30:35 ◼ ► that it also makes me wonder whether I should be on my feet for an Apple event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9035">TS</a>]
02:30:42 ◼ ► you know sooner rather than later i mean i think an Apple event is is fair game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9042">TS</a>]
02:30:48 ◼ ► anytime i mean i i wouldn't expected like next week but I would you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9048">TS</a>]
02:30:53 ◼ ► it if there was an event in February with availability of couple of weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9053">TS</a>]
02:30:59 ◼ ► so government other stories as blockbuster 12 inch MacBook Air with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9059">TS</a>]
02:31:06 ◼ ► port with one port which is so crazy that I think it's probably true but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9066">TS</a>]
02:31:14 ◼ ► doesn't make it right and I i thot snows reaction was perfect for Yves just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9074">TS</a>]
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02:31:29 ◼ ► MacBook Air had any rumors lead I don't think it did it was it was a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9089">TS</a>]
02:31:33 ◼ ► surprise as I recall I recall it being like a holy shit I cannot believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9093">TS</a>]
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02:31:41 ◼ ► think it was a WBC I just remember there's something I said or something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9101">TS</a>]
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02:31:52 ◼ ► we would have heard crazy things like is that what that was all so it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9112">TS</a>]
02:31:55 ◼ ► the first one that didn't have an optical drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9115">TS</a>]
02:31:57 ◼ ► yeah I think it was launched the external and with it so everybody among [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9117">TS</a>]
02:32:03 ◼ ► how can they do this impossible it's gonna ship thing with either install the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9123">TS</a>]
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02:32:12 ◼ ► everything else was 5.5 pounds they ship is 3.0 pound laptop that fit and mailing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9132">TS</a>]
02:32:17 ◼ ► envelope and was super thin and had this like sharp edge in the front and had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9137">TS</a>]
02:32:23 ◼ ► optical drive and sometimes no hard drive one USB port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9143">TS</a>]
02:32:29 ◼ ► like it was it was so it it was so much smaller they had to make a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9149">TS</a>]
02:32:33 ◼ ► power adapter for the even the power adapter with smaller even the plug on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9153">TS</a>]
02:32:37 ◼ ► the end of it was different shape to fit the beveled edge you had this door the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9157">TS</a>]
02:32:41 ◼ ► portfolio from the door i mean they were so much about it that if you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9161">TS</a>]
02:32:45 ◼ ► heard it ahead of time and even when it come out every was like thats crazy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9165">TS</a>]
02:32:50 ◼ ► was January 2008 there was a Macworld Expo there so it was a year and the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9170">TS</a>]
02:32:56 ◼ ► after the iPhone introduction of Macworld it was it was a big another big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9176">TS</a>]
02:33:00 ◼ ► introduction of mackerel you have to watch that and try to gauge their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9180">TS</a>]
02:33:04 ◼ ► reaction is like and I actually have one of those David @ tumblr got me one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9184">TS</a>]
02:33:08 ◼ ► those a bonus as I mentioned I wanted to laptop and was very nice and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9188">TS</a>]
02:33:14 ◼ ► ungodly slow because I had a hard drive models who was like it was 1.8 iPod hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9194">TS</a>]
02:33:22 ◼ ► drive and there is the SSD option was $1,000 more and 64 gigs or you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9202">TS</a>]
02:33:29 ◼ ► the iPod hard drive over 80 gig shoes when I got my membership we got Shipley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9209">TS</a>]
02:33:33 ◼ ► got the SST version and was like I know it sounds crazy but it's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9213">TS</a>]
02:33:38 ◼ ► because SSDs are so great for development because you're dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9218">TS</a>]
02:33:42 ◼ ► you know hundreds of tiny little files yet and in 2008 when the thing came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9222">TS</a>]
02:33:46 ◼ ► that these were extremely rare that it was one of the first computers to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9226">TS</a>]
02:33:50 ◼ ► offered as an option I don't think it was the first but it was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9230">TS</a>]
02:33:54 ◼ ► first and and so that machine when it came out had all these crazy limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9234">TS</a>]
02:34:00 ◼ ► and a lot of flaws I mean like it like the CPU GPU CPU on a lot of them with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9240">TS</a>]
02:34:06 ◼ ► overheated throttle so he couldn't watch youtube videos like you you you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9246">TS</a>]
02:34:11 ◼ ► play flash video for more than a few seconds before dropping frames to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9251">TS</a>]
02:34:15 ◼ ► CPU overheating enthralling I actually on my ran under clock utility that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9255">TS</a>]
02:34:20 ◼ ► under clock and wonderful the chip to keep it running cooler that way it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9260">TS</a>]
02:34:24 ◼ ► sustain its its peak usage 44 enough time to to play videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9264">TS</a>]
02:34:29 ◼ ► wow but like it was it was a crazy machine it was way ahead of its time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9269">TS</a>]
02:34:35 ◼ ► in many ways that was a bad thing I made it the performance was dismal it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9275">TS</a>]
02:34:41 ◼ ► extremely inconvenient to move files to it because it only had it had 11 G or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9281">TS</a>]
02:34:48 ◼ ► think it was the draft and wireless wireless was still a lot slower back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9288">TS</a>]
02:34:53 ◼ ► then and it only has a single USB 2.0 port no firewire don't Thunderbolt USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9293">TS</a>]
02:35:00 ◼ ► to and you could like you could send files to it over wireless would take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9300">TS</a>]
02:35:04 ◼ ► forever or you can get the wired Ethernet after the USB one that was only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9304">TS</a>]
02:35:09 ◼ ► 10 100 and ran over USB to annually to the heart of protocol and transferring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9309">TS</a>]
02:35:15 ◼ ► files to just take hours if you want to put it looks like moves on to go on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9315">TS</a>]
02:35:19 ◼ ► big trip or something it would just take out it was unbearable used in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9319">TS</a>]
02:35:24 ◼ ► contexts but what was so new about it being so incredibly thin and light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9324">TS</a>]
02:35:30 ◼ ► mostly lightest in this was kind of a nice bonus but it was mostly the late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9330">TS</a>]
02:35:35 ◼ ► being so radically much smaller everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9335">TS</a>]
02:35:38 ◼ ► that was so good that this machine was quite compelling for a lot of people it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9338">TS</a>]
02:35:44 ◼ ► was not good enough to be your only computer for most people in some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9344">TS</a>]
02:35:48 ◼ ► put a lot of it was going to be only one right because it only had 64 gigs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9348">TS</a>]
02:35:54 ◼ ► storage or a TV ad the beautifully slow one so you know it at a time when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9354">TS</a>]
02:36:00 ◼ ► add a lot less cloud storage yeah yeah you like you had to keep a lot more you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9360">TS</a>]
02:36:05 ◼ ► had to keep everything you had locally there was there was no such thing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9365">TS</a>]
02:36:09 ◼ ► like I i'm gonna keep everything I have on Dropbox folder or Amanda keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9369">TS</a>]
02:36:13 ◼ ► everything on you know that I don't think I to match was out you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9373">TS</a>]
02:36:17 ◼ ► it was a much worse time to have very limited stuff and so but it but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9377">TS</a>]
02:36:24 ◼ ► people into work and it wasn't it wasn't overall a great machine but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9384">TS</a>]
02:36:28 ◼ ► really compelling in a few key areas so now bring it forward and and in 2010 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9388">TS</a>]
02:36:34 ◼ ► amid the better MacBook Airs and SSDs are getting bigger and cheaper and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9394">TS</a>]
02:36:38 ◼ ► went all SSD and then the 2010 and forward MacBook Airs are far better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9398">TS</a>]
02:36:42 ◼ ► machines but an elegantly pointed out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9402">TS</a>]
02:36:48 ◼ ► I don't even think it's I don't think there's any argument that for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9408">TS</a>]
02:36:52 ◼ ► people who is the most popular Mac Apple sells and for most people it's their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9412">TS</a>]
02:36:56 ◼ ► only Mac yeah I mean if if you if someone comes to me and says what should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9416">TS</a>]
02:37:01 ◼ ► I buy and the end they don't give me any other information if if if they if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9421">TS</a>]
02:37:05 ◼ ► need to have a no questions asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9425">TS</a>]
02:37:07 ◼ ► answer to that the answer is a 13 inch MacBook Air like that's it that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9427">TS</a>]
02:37:11 ◼ ► answer that are you up to do you said something about the connected yes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9431">TS</a>]
02:37:15 ◼ ► mention this on this week they were saying pointing out how the MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9435">TS</a>]
02:37:20 ◼ ► used to be this high end it is turning out it was 1800 or $600 it was priced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9440">TS</a>]
02:37:28 ◼ ► above the other above the 13 inch MacBook yep and it was it was a premium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9448">TS</a>]
02:37:33 ◼ ► product to be slower and smaller everything was so much more portable it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9453">TS</a>]
02:37:39 ◼ ► was like getting a little convertible coupe exactly it perfect perfect analogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9459">TS</a>]
02:37:43 ◼ ► and so yeah it probably shouldn't be your family sedan but but but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9463">TS</a>]
02:37:48 ◼ ► it is a fun like little you know little portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9468">TS</a>]
02:37:51 ◼ ► and and so like the original MacBook Air was this premium thing that said above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9471">TS</a>]
02:37:56 ◼ ► the rest of the line relative to its size imagine for like business travelers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9476">TS</a>]
02:38:01 ◼ ► who do you know do a lot of typing on you know coach seats and write a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9481">TS</a>]
02:38:05 ◼ ► it was you know I hate to say it it's such a cliche is a game-changer yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9485">TS</a>]
02:38:09 ◼ ► mean an end for those of the got the SSD I think it was like $3,400 I was raised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9489">TS</a>]
02:38:15 ◼ ► here but you know so so it was just this premium awesome sports coupe kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9495">TS</a>]
02:38:21 ◼ ► thing since then as I pointed out on unconnected it has actually become the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9501">TS</a>]
02:38:26 ◼ ► bottom of the line like it is filtered down now like there is no regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9506">TS</a>]
02:38:30 ◼ ► MacBook anymore or there's that there's that one model at over the they buried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9510">TS</a>]
02:38:34 ◼ ► on the site but for the most part like the bottom of the Mac line is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9514">TS</a>]
02:38:38 ◼ ► MacBook Air and so that this if you think about this crazy new one port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9518">TS</a>]
02:38:43 ◼ ► rumor that the government had with a 12 inch being the slick creating new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9523">TS</a>]
02:38:46 ◼ ► premium thing if you think about that not as a replacement to the 11 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9526">TS</a>]
02:38:52 ◼ ► MacBook Air that exists today but if you think about it in more the style of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9532">TS</a>]
02:38:56 ◼ ► original was relative to its siblings in the lineup this kind of mid-range this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9536">TS</a>]
02:39:02 ◼ ► mid-priced thing probably you know $1,500 range type thing or maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9542">TS</a>]
02:39:08 ◼ ► little more we'll see how it speaks out but you know I think about it like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9548">TS</a>]
02:39:12 ◼ ► the low in the lineup but a mid range of the lineup that in some ways more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9552">TS</a>]
02:39:16 ◼ ► limited and worse than the MacBook Airs that we know today possibly by by having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9556">TS</a>]
02:39:21 ◼ ► this one port or by if it uses any of these new Intel Broadwell a lot slower a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9561">TS</a>]
02:39:27 ◼ ► little be roughly iPad speed which has not slowed by you know absolute terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9567">TS</a>]
02:39:32 ◼ ► for the most part but relative to other CPU that's you know it's not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9572">TS</a>]
02:39:36 ◼ ► in the same place it always moment when a next-generation Sheena's lower than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9576">TS</a>]
02:39:43 ◼ ► what games before exec dinner might be good reasons for it but it still is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9583">TS</a>]
02:39:48 ◼ ► the way the industry works right and the first medicare was it was a big example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9588">TS</a>]
02:39:52 ◼ ► that in the end it got trash initially member when Mack Road first review today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9592">TS</a>]
02:39:56 ◼ ► I think it was Jason who voted when they first few they were like this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9596">TS</a>]
02:39:59 ◼ ► slowest Mac we've tested in a while it was it was a close one the whole lineup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9599">TS</a>]
02:40:04 ◼ ► but anyway if we think about it in that context as maybe it's something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9604">TS</a>]
02:40:09 ◼ ► that I think that leaves room for it to suck in a few is that leaves room for to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9609">TS</a>]
02:40:15 ◼ ► be limited in a few ways for to say this is gonna be a next premium thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9615">TS</a>]
02:40:21 ◼ ► gonna extremely prioritize certain physical factors in exchange for extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9621">TS</a>]
02:40:28 ◼ ► something extreme portability maybe she better life probably not I'm not getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9628">TS</a>]
02:40:32 ◼ ► better I was gonna be mediocre on it but you know it's going to prioritize and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9632">TS</a>]
02:40:38 ◼ ► lightness and size it seems if the example above all else including battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9638">TS</a>]
02:40:43 ◼ ► life is gonna make your existing MacBook Air Field exactly the same way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9643">TS</a>]
02:40:47 ◼ ► original MacBook Air made even the 13 inch MacBook feel just like a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9647">TS</a>]
02:40:52 ◼ ► break like it you know it if they can pull that off its gonna be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9652">TS</a>]
02:40:56 ◼ ► interesting I I do have a slight concern in this area that I i do think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9656">TS</a>]
02:41:05 ◼ ► you certainly have to some degree you have diminishing returns here when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9665">TS</a>]
02:41:10 ◼ ► the original MacBook Air came out it was like half the weight or close to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9670">TS</a>]
02:41:14 ◼ ► of of the 13 inch MacBook at the time how how much lighter can get while still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9674">TS</a>]
02:41:21 ◼ ► having a keyboard screen a battery of some kind a an aluminum case around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9681">TS</a>]
02:41:27 ◼ ► whole thing like I don't think they're going to be able to nail half the weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9687">TS</a>]
02:41:31 ◼ ► like I don't think it probably can't go that low and we're already talking these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9691">TS</a>]
02:41:35 ◼ ► are already very thin like computers as they are today so to make it even then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9695">TS</a>]
02:41:39 ◼ ► even lighter or something that is not hand-held like it matters more in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9699">TS</a>]
02:41:44 ◼ ► iPad and iPhone is your its handheld for some of the time of death spiral at most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9704">TS</a>]
02:41:48 ◼ ► of the time are treatable the wait is it matters to a point but like if the if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9708">TS</a>]
02:41:54 ◼ ► the computer goes from and what the current 11 is willing to point to 2.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9714">TS</a>]
02:42:01 ◼ ► remembering what they are it's like I know what if I know what it feels like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9721">TS</a>]
02:42:05 ◼ ► don't know what the number if it goes from 2.5 pounds to 1.8 pounds or Euros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9725">TS</a>]
02:42:11 ◼ ► from 2.2 to 1.5 like that's a big difference on papers big percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9731">TS</a>]
02:42:15 ◼ ► difference but like your whole bag weighs like 15 pounds even like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9735">TS</a>]
02:42:21 ◼ ► backpack empty weighs more than that usually and so you might not even notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9741">TS</a>]
02:42:27 ◼ ► the weight difference so I do worry they might be prioritizing then this and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9747">TS</a>]
02:42:34 ◼ ► extreme lightness a little bit too much in this case if it me if it'll come at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9754">TS</a>]
02:42:39 ◼ ► the expense of battery life because I think this is the kind of machine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9759">TS</a>]
02:42:45 ◼ ► the battery life on the current MacBook Airs is good it's not it doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9765">TS</a>]
02:42:50 ◼ ► isn't to use a term that used to be a very urban is now a negative things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9770">TS</a>]
02:42:56 ◼ ► Apple it isn't blow away but it's good they're good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9776">TS</a>]
02:43:01 ◼ ► like you know when they came out they were impressive but you know time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9781">TS</a>]
02:43:04 ◼ ► moved on that's now that's on the baseline yeah all modern MacBooks have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9784">TS</a>]
02:43:08 ◼ ► amazing battery life compared to the old days where it was dark at like three to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9788">TS</a>]
02:43:14 ◼ ► active battery no matter what no matter which one you bought no matter what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9794">TS</a>]
02:43:17 ◼ ► did you know turn the screen dimness down you know three or four hours is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9797">TS</a>]
02:43:24 ◼ ► about what you could get it will lose about an hour per year of age to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9804">TS</a>]
02:43:27 ◼ ► pretty quickly I just as many as a coaster yeah I just always knew you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9807">TS</a>]
02:43:32 ◼ ► could never really go coast-to-coast even with numerous exactly you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9812">TS</a>]
02:43:37 ◼ ► kind of you know if your gonna work on an airplane flew to San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9817">TS</a>]
02:43:40 ◼ ► funnies Coast get work done because you're not gonna you know it's gonna die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9820">TS</a>]
02:43:44 ◼ ► with an hour to go exactly and like today if you're using a laptop if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9824">TS</a>]
02:43:49 ◼ ► doing like you know medium medium listing on it throughout the day it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9829">TS</a>]
02:43:55 ◼ ► almost but generally not run all day on battery like a sailor you know oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9835">TS</a>]
02:44:01 ◼ ► have all day vote early vote even though you're doing with it and if and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9841">TS</a>]
02:44:04 ◼ ► leave your house with a solid charge you can watch movies on the whole flight no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9844">TS</a>]
02:44:10 ◼ ► but the question is like you know if you have a 40 minute layover somewhere do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9850">TS</a>]
02:44:15 ◼ ► you have to plug it in or is it just kind of optional whether you plug it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9855">TS</a>]
02:44:19 ◼ ► anyway so I think they are using this this super low power you know families [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9859">TS</a>]
02:44:26 ◼ ► Broadwell chip that uses I forget with a modest on it but it's very low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9866">TS</a>]
02:44:30 ◼ ► temperatures something that they could get if if they put in a similar size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9870">TS</a>]
02:44:37 ◼ ► battery to the current MacBook Airs that could be a very substantial battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9877">TS</a>]
02:44:40 ◼ ► but they might instead choose to just keep keep roughly you know what's 1160 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9880">TS</a>]
02:44:47 ◼ ► like roughly like five our life something like that and it really use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9887">TS</a>]
02:44:50 ◼ ► some would say more than that I think so I don't know whatever his mind although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9890">TS</a>]
02:44:55 ◼ ► it's hard to say but I'm pretty good whatever it is like the 11 is worse than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9895">TS</a>]
02:44:59 ◼ ► 13 bye bye preview margin of thirteen says a much bigger battery but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9899">TS</a>]
02:45:05 ◼ ► wouldn't surprise me at all given what they've done with iOS devices with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9905">TS</a>]
02:45:08 ◼ ► with the with the iPhone 6 and with the iPad air to enter one I wonder how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9908">TS</a>]
02:45:14 ◼ ► if again but if it's true that really only as this one port I wonder how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9914">TS</a>]
02:45:20 ◼ ► that is about cost and how much it is about using whatever space is left for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9920">TS</a>]
02:45:27 ◼ ► you know that it's not so much that it would cost too much to add a second USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9927">TS</a>]
02:45:31 ◼ ► port but that it's really really really intensive deceives base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9931">TS</a>]
02:45:37 ◼ ► I would guess it's about two things neither of which are very good answers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9937">TS</a>]
02:45:41 ◼ ► would get pissed about symmetry having one port on each side and about us that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9941">TS</a>]
02:45:47 ◼ ► if Germans scoop is correct then it still retains the wedge teardrop shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9947">TS</a>]
02:45:52 ◼ ► so it still is thicker at the back then it is the front end and if his likeness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9952">TS</a>]
02:45:58 ◼ ► claims are accurate then there actually is not much room for more than the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9958">TS</a>]
02:46:03 ◼ ► that has thickness wise and also I would not I would not discount the value of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9963">TS</a>]
02:46:08 ◼ ► symmetry I think symmetry is the reason why on the iPhone 6 in six-plus yd sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9968">TS</a>]
02:46:13 ◼ ► wake button is directly across from the volume up button even though it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9973">TS</a>]
02:46:17 ◼ ► way harder to hit just one of them and it's the same size exactly so I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9977">TS</a>]
02:46:24 ◼ ► definitely not discount that as as a possible reason why would only be one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9984">TS</a>]
02:46:27 ◼ ► port also just you know electrically like if a computer has a USB port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9987">TS</a>]
02:46:32 ◼ ► firewire port those specs each demand the port be able to supply at least X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9992">TS</a>]
02:46:38 ◼ ► amps of current through it you know that most supply device of power so the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/9998">TS</a>]
02:46:44 ◼ ► the higher the total power output for the computer has to be able to to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10004">TS</a>]
02:46:49 ◼ ► capacity for somebody on Twitter pointed out so sorry I forgot your name but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10009">TS</a>]
02:46:54 ◼ ► if it had to even just two USB ports and they were both USBC and it might have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10014">TS</a>]
02:47:00 ◼ ► be USBC cuz I think I think the devices too thin to have traditionally USB port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10020">TS</a>]
02:47:04 ◼ ► yeah I think the minimal size of a USB 3 port is thick enough that it would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10024">TS</a>]
02:47:11 ◼ ► gating factor to make the overall devices done so it has to be the new USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10031">TS</a>]
02:47:15 ◼ ► but if it at two and you can do and they're going to use it for supplying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10035">TS</a>]
02:47:20 ◼ ► power to the machine you couldn't risk having to power adapter is plugged in at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10040">TS</a>]
02:47:25 ◼ ► the same time that I don't know if it's true or not that it would you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10045">TS</a>]
02:47:29 ◼ ► break the machine or something and conversely how do you tell people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10049">TS</a>]
02:47:34 ◼ ► can use this one from right and this one which is the same port it's exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10054">TS</a>]
02:47:40 ◼ ► same size it can take every every other thing you can plug in the other one but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10060">TS</a>]
02:47:44 ◼ ► that won't take a charger right in the PC world they were just color one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10064">TS</a>]
02:47:47 ◼ ► them like blue or something and they all just plug in the blue one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10067">TS</a>]
02:47:50 ◼ ► but they won't do it right and it would just lead to confusion because of maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10070">TS</a>]
02:47:54 ◼ ► you're running on battery power and you've got a mouse plugged in one and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10074">TS</a>]
02:47:57 ◼ ► hard-driving the other but now you need powers who you think will unplug the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10077">TS</a>]
02:48:00 ◼ ► mouse oh but I plug the mouse and and the hard drive a chicken amount because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10080">TS</a>]
02:48:06 ◼ ► I'm still copying files to it is in the power one it doesn't it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10086">TS</a>]
02:48:09 ◼ ► you know that's the kind of elegant solution Apple's very unlikely to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10089">TS</a>]
02:48:13 ◼ ► that actually makes some sense that if you're going to use USB for power and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10093">TS</a>]
02:48:17 ◼ ► you can only have power plugged into one port therefore you can only have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10097">TS</a>]
02:48:20 ◼ ► point exactly why I would expect I'm guessing like the more I think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10100">TS</a>]
02:48:29 ◼ ► the one port thing actually sounds +1 the more I learn about usb3 see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10109">TS</a>]
02:48:34 ◼ ► these new seaports are are extremely versatile and and I don't know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10114">TS</a>]
02:48:38 ◼ ► extreme details yet but they like they designed the specs of the port can carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10118">TS</a>]
02:48:43 ◼ ► power seemingly in either direction like that you can have a computer that powers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10123">TS</a>]
02:48:49 ◼ ► the monitor and drugs displays you can also read display signals over it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10129">TS</a>]
02:48:54 ◼ ► can write high bandwidth buses over it and everything it's it's crazy how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10134">TS</a>]
02:48:58 ◼ ► you can do I'm we'll see how our general practice but like it it's designed such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10138">TS</a>]
02:49:03 ◼ ► that you could have just this one cable running from a monitor into a PC and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10143">TS</a>]
02:49:09 ◼ ► have the PC both power the monitor Angeles place over the table and crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10149">TS</a>]
02:49:15 ◼ ► you know and in terms of like skating to where the puck is going which is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10155">TS</a>]
02:49:18 ◼ ► the map book era was at its beginning so that the original MacBook has said no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10158">TS</a>]
02:49:23 ◼ ► optical drives now this one says no more St cards and no USB port extra USB port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10163">TS</a>]
02:49:31 ◼ ► where you can plug one end well guess what I think St cards are going the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10171">TS</a>]
02:49:36 ◼ ► of the dodo and that your photos are going to travel over the air between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10176">TS</a>]
02:49:40 ◼ ► devices right and of course we're not there yet if you're the more serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10180">TS</a>]
02:49:44 ◼ ► photographer you are you know the less doable that is but more and more regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10184">TS</a>]
02:49:49 ◼ ► people are shooting all of their photos with their phones and iPads and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10189">TS</a>]
02:49:55 ◼ ► in the Apple universe will therefore be using iCloud photo sync and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10195">TS</a>]
02:49:59 ◼ ► higher photos will get to your Mac and a lot of consumer cameras have wifi now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10199">TS</a>]
02:50:04 ◼ ► and you can transfer photos out right so I think I I think you're right it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10204">TS</a>]
02:50:13 ◼ ► this computer again if this is real but it seems increasingly possible if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10213">TS</a>]
02:50:19 ◼ ► was real I think this this is a forward-looking computer aggressively so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10219">TS</a>]
02:50:23 ◼ ► just like the first area said they couldn't go you know basically pointless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10223">TS</a>]
02:50:29 ◼ ► they couldn't go pointless on the whole lineup yet but they can have one weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10229">TS</a>]
02:50:34 ◼ ► outlier that is really good and some other way mostly fitness and weight they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10234">TS</a>]
02:50:39 ◼ ► could have is one crazy outlier that is awesome at this at this link one aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10239">TS</a>]
02:50:44 ◼ ► of itself and gives up a lot to get there I think it's true too and lets you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10244">TS</a>]
02:50:50 ◼ ► know government's report and I believe it I mean could be details are off but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10250">TS</a>]
02:50:56 ◼ ► mostly believe it but he seems very sure about it and I think he attributed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10256">TS</a>]
02:51:00 ◼ ► source to someone with an Apple who's used one or at least used the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10260">TS</a>]
02:51:04 ◼ ► prototype and then the source told him everything about it and then he gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10264">TS</a>]
02:51:08 ◼ ► that to an artist who made those renderings so you know there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10268">TS</a>]
02:51:13 ◼ ► passes down the alleyway you know stuff that was probably not quite right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10273">TS</a>]
02:51:19 ◼ ► terms of you know the degree of tapering or some stuff like that but it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10279">TS</a>]
02:51:24 ◼ ► determine who said anything about what chip isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10284">TS</a>]
02:51:26 ◼ ► you know whether it's this new chip or anything like that it government report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10286">TS</a>]
02:51:30 ◼ ► was just what the then looks like right and we don't like Intel did just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10290">TS</a>]
02:51:35 ◼ ► is a broad well serious chip that is family so they can run families that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10295">TS</a>]
02:51:38 ◼ ► just uses it uses so little power of government say that it's fanless no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10298">TS</a>]
02:51:44 ◼ ► think everyone is guessing that is probably fail as I don't think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10304">TS</a>]
02:51:48 ◼ ► actually said it is and you know that the way CPU cooling works you can like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10308">TS</a>]
02:51:53 ◼ ► you know all the current networks have fans most of the time most people won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10313">TS</a>]
02:51:58 ◼ ► hear them especially the newer ones are even better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10318">TS</a>]
02:52:00 ◼ ► there even quieter but the the retina series but you can like you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10320">TS</a>]
02:52:07 ◼ ► something that's totally families like an iPad and have it have a base leaders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10327">TS</a>]
02:52:10 ◼ ► use the shower see as a giant heatsink and you know just basically radiate here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10330">TS</a>]
02:52:16 ◼ ► you know through contacts like radiate heat into the exterior shell or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10336">TS</a>]
02:52:20 ◼ ► interior thing that took to the shell eventually if you have a little heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10340">TS</a>]
02:52:25 ◼ ► sink and you have any air moving it at all even even if you have the slowest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10345">TS</a>]
02:52:31 ◼ ► quietest fan that most people don't even realize they're like the original Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10351">TS</a>]
02:52:35 ◼ ► TV had a family owned even know that even if you have the tiniest little fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10355">TS</a>]
02:52:40 ◼ ► in there blowing the slowest income possibly girl barely moving in the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10360">TS</a>]
02:52:46 ◼ ► that cools way better than any kind of passive cooling the slightest bit of air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10366">TS</a>]
02:52:51 ◼ ► movement is substantially better and you can anticipate a lot more heat that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10371">TS</a>]
02:52:56 ◼ ► so the world's tiniest violin playing the world's tiniest fan blowing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10376">TS</a>]
02:53:03 ◼ ► world's smallest amount of air yeah it makes a huge difference and and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10383">TS</a>]
02:53:08 ◼ ► give you a much higher thermal budget and modern processors are pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10388">TS</a>]
02:53:11 ◼ ► all limited by their thermal budget like their their performance is gated by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10391">TS</a>]
02:53:16 ◼ ► factor so they don't have to use a family's chip in this if they if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10396">TS</a>]
02:53:20 ◼ ► don't want to they still could if they wanted to I think they can fit a fan in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10400">TS</a>]
02:53:25 ◼ ► there I think they like well if the service has a fan surface pro doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10405">TS</a>]
02:53:31 ◼ ► yet really thin right that's certainly thinner than I think it's quite sure if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10411">TS</a>]
02:53:39 ◼ ► it is then is this MacBook is because the surface than this doesn't have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10419">TS</a>]
02:53:43 ◼ ► has ports somewhere so it probably isn't the same but firmly in the ballpark and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10423">TS</a>]
02:53:49 ◼ ► I think they could put a fan if they want to they could be using a CPU that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10429">TS</a>]
02:53:55 ◼ ► debt has that is like the same class as you just in medicare CPUs of like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10435">TS</a>]
02:54:02 ◼ ► those are government report does say above the keyboard are for redesigned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10442">TS</a>]
02:54:06 ◼ ► speaker grills that actually double as ventilation holes for the fanless device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10446">TS</a>]
02:54:10 ◼ ► to keep cool so government says it fam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10450">TS</a>]
02:54:12 ◼ ► but we shall see I think you're right I'm with you and I i think that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10452">TS</a>]
02:54:21 ◼ ► verge guys are just miss reading the whole thing that makes there's they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10461">TS</a>]
02:54:27 ◼ ► saying that it's like I love when device that will compete with Chromebooks not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10467">TS</a>]
02:54:32 ◼ ► chance I think it's going to be more expensive than I think therefore it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10472">TS</a>]
02:54:37 ◼ ► like when they introduced the retina MacBook Pros and they kept on retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10477">TS</a>]
02:54:40 ◼ ► ones around to anchor the low end of the pricing tier I mean you can still buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10480">TS</a>]
02:54:46 ◼ ► non retina MacBook Pros and I think they started I think they're only like 10,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10486">TS</a>]
02:54:51 ◼ ► bucks and can get I got 13 I think there's one there's like one buried in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10491">TS</a>]
02:54:56 ◼ ► story like an eleven hundred bucks a dimension that I could also yes so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10496">TS</a>]
02:54:59 ◼ ► think this will be more expensive than the current starting price for even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10499">TS</a>]
02:55:03 ◼ ► 13 inch MacBook Pro and I don't they'll be much more I think it probably start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10503">TS</a>]
02:55:08 ◼ ► at like I don't know 1300 bucks 1400 bucks maybe and they'll keep I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10508">TS</a>]
02:55:15 ◼ ► have to keep both the 11 and 13 but they'll keep at least 13 around $8.99 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10515">TS</a>]
02:55:22 ◼ ► maybe even drop it to $7.99 for the foreseeable future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10522">TS</a>]
02:55:28 ◼ ► I do think it would be kind of weird if they had 11 12 and 13 on sale the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10528">TS</a>]
02:55:32 ◼ ► time just seems like to me that seems a little unhappily seems like to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10532">TS</a>]
02:55:37 ◼ ► maybe the eleven you know what's the point of the 11 is it to be eleven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10537">TS</a>]
02:55:41 ◼ ► inches or is it to be this even you know the Super smallest and lightest well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10541">TS</a>]
02:55:46 ◼ ► think there's 12 inch which seems to have a footprint mostly like the 11 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10546">TS</a>]
02:55:51 ◼ ► with the wise is apparently the same width as the 11 and has a bigger screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10551">TS</a>]
02:55:55 ◼ ► has a smaller bezel I'd say there's no reason for the 11 do exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10555">TS</a>]
02:55:59 ◼ ► 11 has such a wide bezel it really has it has it does not make good use of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10559">TS</a>]
02:56:04 ◼ ► size for the screen the you know the keyboard which reduced the size the body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10564">TS</a>]
02:56:07 ◼ ► but like the screen like you look at the only man I wish that does it was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10567">TS</a>]
02:56:10 ◼ ► on the screen is bigger I'm looking at it right now and it just looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10570">TS</a>]
02:56:13 ◼ ► ridiculous about it now looks outdated looks like the laptops from you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10573">TS</a>]
02:56:17 ◼ ► was in college and they you know tiny little thing in the middle of a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10577">TS</a>]
02:56:23 ◼ ► bezel that they didn't even come close to taking up the full size of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10583">TS</a>]
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02:57:39 ◼ ► sourcing these 12 inch right rail in a way that must be for a bigger iPad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10659">TS</a>]
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02:58:08 ◼ ► OS features to be added to make it better to be for multitasking in pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10688">TS</a>]
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02:58:24 ◼ ► the MacBook Air and this new you know quote MacBook still for this new to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10704">TS</a>]
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02:59:12 ◼ ► is obvious to you just called the MacBook Air with Retina display and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10752">TS</a>]
02:59:16 ◼ ► know enough to say that it's 12 MacBook Air with Retina display and now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10756">TS</a>]
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02:59:26 ◼ ► very clear that it's the new thing because it's the retina display just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10766">TS</a>]
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03:02:15 ◼ ► people hit backspace a heck of alot more often than they had escaped and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10935">TS</a>]
03:02:23 ◼ ► explanation may be and then they'll move in on all the keyboards yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuxrxouo/10943">TS</a>]
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