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00:00:00 ◼   ► what kind of microphones you have I know you were gonna give me like how to [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► improve my audio some help a lot of gun and we never followed through what kind [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► of liked you so I have I i have both of the ones that everyone says are the best [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► mics for this purpose I have the higher PR 4210 businessman and all those people [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► use and I have the Shure sm57 be and I prefer the shower before the voice of [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► the shower that the high appear before he makes people sound a little bit more [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► nasal and has like weird it's like it's missing like the mid base but it has a [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► lot of the lower base so you sound like early BC but but not that present not [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► that warm with it with the pier 40 so that s I'm seven beers is a really [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► really nice Antimicrob the best sounding like the purpose but has the giant [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► asterisk that it needs a really nice and generally very expensive preemptive [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► power properly yes crew that that's what I use of course the old rode podcaster [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► which is probably why don't I can I guess I can do better you could i mean [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► there's a question how much it matters because your show has guests attended at [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► that rotate out every week like you don't want to sound of that different [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► from the guests now there have been a lot of episodes your show where I think [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► you somewhere in the guests but that might be because of a clear dq going on [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► or something else going on there might be something else in the process being [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► not that great I don't know how do you talking to you might I keep the mic [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► underneath my face like I'm not it's sticking straight up and I'm close to my [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► mouth but I have it wear it underneath my my face it more or less like my chin [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► and going down you're doing it wrong [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► yeah it's like staring right into it right [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► yeah pretty much like my end and it's over smile because I have the crazy low [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► output as I'm so maybe I am like my lips are almost touching the popular [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► sometimes they do touch the popular I'm like right on top of it talking directly [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► straight on into it [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► see what happened I'm asking all these questions cuz they came in I spent a big [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► chunk of the holidays not working in my home office was downstairs dining room [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► you know you know part of the family and I came up to record the Star Wars [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► episode of the show with circus in guy I was good I thought I would hate that it [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► was so long I don't care that much about Star Wars but that was actually really [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► good I really enjoyed listening to the compliments from people who said I don't [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► even like Star Wars but I like that show that to me was that kid that meant that [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► it came out the way I wanted it to I came up to my office and the mic mic arm [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► was on the ground in front of my desk and I thought I knew I didn't put it [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► there and Amy required her show up here and I didn't think she'd recorded or [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► episode recently but I thought it must have been hurt as it winding roads [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► disconnected from the desk and put it on the floor and I was a little annoyed and [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► then I looked and have it was the fact that the are mounted broken it just so I [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► could just write really think right where the clamp goes on the desk just [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► like a stress fracture pressure which kind of makes sense because it's you [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► know supports a fair amount of weight and I it's the same arm that I had had [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► ever since I started doing the first run of the show which i think is a 2007 so [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► but anyway how to get a new podcast arm and of course I didn't set up until [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► right when we were supposed to record and i'm looking at the instructions and [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► it's like wow they're showing me this at this my government of varied and I have [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► ever [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► ever used the microphone [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► doing wrong i mean certain mics are made to be addressed like on the side but [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► that's not one of them yeah but I'm not talking into the side I am talking into [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► the top of it all your kind of talking like over the top of the league playoff [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► yeah exactly exactly maybe I could try to fix it right now it seems to me that [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► if I do it their way and it's been I'm gonna be seen will be able to see like [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► my computer and you can look through them like through the arm and kind of [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► look you know I mean yeah I don't know something is this any better and it's [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► not a huge difference to the different if this if you see here a terrible noise [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► and intuitive I mean the road podcaster is not an amazing Mike like you're not [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► going to see you never gonna send amazing from it but you can sound good [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► enough from it can get things going on tonight so make for an excellent idea [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► broadcast right now it's all floppy these things are also the road boom arm [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► that I assume yours and I'm also getting one it's not the best army it did is [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► it's pretty shitty hike it works like like mine like any slight vibration [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► anywhere in the desk anything a spring inside the armed rattles [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► completely opposite of the kind of thing as opposed to do just like I just [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► haven't ever replace did because I like you know it's not broken yet it still [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► works but I even had the thought when I had to reorganize had order when I just [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► went to Amazon and I saw that it said road now that I've got a ride like my [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► old one was a high as I planted yeah that's how to people that are no right [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► and even though I like I said it was seven years old and I started I'm not [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► really angry that it broke I still feel like well broken [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► so I just bought the road but then I had this in it was one of those things where [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► you know you Amazon makes it so easy so that's my thought process my thought [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► process was not a hostile already have a road like and it looked highly rated on [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► Amazon and so like two clicks later it was on its way and so then with a little [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► bit of thought I thought maybe I should have taken the usual basin has Marco [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► that's what I'm using the exact same on the road you know P S whatever they [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► really are meeting in the same one I just because they had Pakistani I'm like [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► I bought the kit for five by five and then I upgraded my mic but never created [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► a boom arm because it still works the desk lamp does looks dirtier than I'll [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► like the hospital after having looked at it as I can kind of surprised it didn't [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► happen right away I don't really know where the road one would break looking [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► at the construction like you know what I don't know what part of this would be [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► the weak point but I don't think I mean I I think it's more likely that like one [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► of the springs in the armored snap and would lose tension and just drop to the [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► desk [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► likely to fail yeah actually starting to happen with my holiday was starting to [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► starting to lose intention and I could not there's no way to leak just that in [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► turn is weird screws on the on the on the arm but I don't have to do anything [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► what are these straps for those are for attaching the cable like you basically [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► attacks the cable to the arm on its way down using those so that way you can [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► have a nice tidy cable going down to the base of the arm would be nice [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► alright anyway quite weak for you [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► nothing's ever going on for the records leader [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► recording on Thursday that aids which is a night after you recorded ATP whereas [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► presume you talked about skipping through go talk about tonight but I [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► couldn't have listened to it because I didn't catch the live broadcast but [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► people like you they want to talk about choice should be alright [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► when did you publish your piece Sunday yeah we're Sunday night part of the [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► problem I think was that I i published it on a Sunday night right before a ride [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► is a holiday vacation for a lot of people was ending and there's nothing on [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► the news right and so a lot of places that picked up a lot of you for telling [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► me like yet nevertheless things like at that time because like people are so [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► desperate for news at somebody's bigger sites that like you know there's nothing [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► going on in tech you know random Monday mean CES was starting but nothing but [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► nothing has been announced have any meaning yet and so does seem like I [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► couldn't possibly have worse timing if I didn't want it to be that noticed like [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► if you had published the exact same piece word-for-word not changed one bit [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► but maybe on Wednesday it might've you know I think it would have gotten the [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► attention it deserves but it wouldn't have gotten the attention it didn't [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► deserve I don't have to put it [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► yeah that's basically at a mean like it I mean honestly didn't deserve the [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► attention it got it wasn't good like that's the regret having that it is it [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► just wasn't very good [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► like it was nowhere near my best work it was it was just I didn't put enough [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► effort into it I made a bunch of little mistakes in it and it wasn't very good [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► and then for that to become extremely widespread and to have it be under quite [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► a bit of scrutiny that is just frustrating yeah so for the record in [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► the people listening [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► extemporaneously like you know people who listen when this episode first comes [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► out we're talking about but for the record we should say what it was which [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► is that on Sunday you published an article titled headlined Apple has lost [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► the functional high ground and I think if I may not show summary is you have [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► detected that over the last few years the quality of Apple's software has [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► gotten worse [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► correct not any one particular thing just in general and that it concerns you [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► about the future of company and it's the reason you switch to the Mac in the [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► first place a decade ago is that you were sick of having little stupid things [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► like little annoying bugs here there everywhere all day long that it just [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► works factors sort of fading from Apple's software platforms right and a [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► lot of the lot of the pushback I mean the reason it spread so quickly so [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► incredibly quickly but it had hundreds of retweets within a few hours [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► publishing it and then it spread from there the reason it spread i think is [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► because a lot of people agree on a lot of people still argue with that of [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► course but I think if I was totally wrong it wouldn't have spread you know [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► it's not accomplishing this on some major news site where people like you [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► would make fun of me and I got it wrong [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► like it was my personal site like it's not widely read most of the time and so [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► you know I don't think it would have spread if there wasn't some truth there [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► yeah I think the word I used and I saw a couple of other people use it I know [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► hockenberry did too and I think it's because it's the perfect word that it [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► resonated right or hit a nerve one of those I think resonate is better than [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► another writer I don't know this resonate is exactly what happened it's [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► like it felt true more so than but true just felt right and very few people have [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► said you are completely wrong most people have just said well I would have [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► said it differently or isn't as severe as you say which answer and that's like [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► you know what I regret and you know where my feeling was that I word some [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► things to severely and of course is a frequent problem but so I word things to [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► severely and and that detracted from the [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► literally of what I wrote but the fact is I think the the overall sentiment of [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► Apple software has some quality problems in recent years and it doesn't seem to [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► be getting better that i think is what resonated with people pretty [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► unambiguously yeah you do you you have a sort of like a no-nonsense style like [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► about where you certainly aren't doing it you know you're not sensational you [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► don't you don't overstate things for sensational purposes because you're not [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► looking four hits or pageviews because you don't even have you know you use the [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► deck you don't even get paid by pages you know you know you're not going to [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► get extra this month because you had an explosive story this week that got you [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► know couple hundred thousand extra pages doesn't give you a nickel right but it [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► could actually cost me money if I end up going over some damn with allegations of [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► my more popular in article is it actually might cost me more money that's [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► funny is actually true right which is the opposite of when you know you know [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► Dan Lyons trumps up something had Valley way it's because you know they measure [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► their success month month by page views you're not in that game you know that's [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► not one that's not the way that it's just sort of a no-nonsense style but you [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► know you're right that's what I intended but because I i did i did use like so [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► when I wanted examples like I I recently said quality has taken a nosedive and [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► that was the wrong word really it hasn't taken a nosedive it's been a gradual [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► decline and what I meant really was a decline that just now in really bad [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► shape but a nosedive suggests like an acceleration of all the sudden it's now [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► dropping quickly and that's not really the case it's it's more of a gradual [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► progression but anyway so you know there are things like that and an overall I i [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► regret having written it simply because it put some of my most mediocre to worst [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► work in front of so many people and put my name on it forever [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► whereas like I I don't regret having said that Apple has problems I just [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► regret that I didn't say it better and what happen is that you it really went [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► explosive I mean you even said I guess it was your Google Analytics but [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► whatever you you [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► you know you had your analytics showed that it was more popular than anything [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► you had written in all 2014 correct which is amazing really that you know [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► five days into the year you've already topped last year it just got picked up a [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► good picked up in the relay relay relay and I guess Business Insider got it [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► started his their her head yes Apple software is in a quote [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► nosedive and quote that is deeply concerning supporters as writing a [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► perfect business insider headline right end and the thing is like usually I [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► could pick on Business Insider and say you guys are such pieces of shit for [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► this because usually they are in this case they really the original version [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► had a couple of like of paraphrases it at that were not what I said that were [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► more inflammatory but he he I since complained about the man and he updated [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► them to be more accurate so over and the headline like I did say that you know I [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► didn't really mean to say that severely but I did say that so overall of all the [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► hack job they've done to me over the years this is one of the better ones [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► yeah but it's a guess it's not yet history that as it stands right now that [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► it's unfair but it's you know fuel to the fire right and and actually in a lot [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► of people don't realize this [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► a lot of people have no clue how insanely popular and pervasive Business [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► Insider is like whenever and wherever I mention of Business Insider in context I [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► will have everybody who was ever met me my moms friends my friends parents like [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► people who are outside of of the tech news [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► fear they will all contact me and all my god I read this article about you and [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► Business Insider you know congratulations are they considered a [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► good thing whenever I mention there even though it's always trash like sometimes [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► like when I products will get mentioned in some major tech publication like you [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► know macworld or even been like in New York Times Wall Street Journal or [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► something like that [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► never repeat from anybody when I'm in Business Insider for the stupidest [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► smallest thing everyone in my life [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► Zwart all my god I haven't seen you in 15 years but I read this article about [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► you and Business Insider that site I don't know why it's so popular but it is [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► really popular and so whenever they write anything about me or my my my my [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► products it gets picked up everywhere goods carried everywhere and they [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► ultimately dictate the narrative if you look like almost every other side that [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► republish this article was republished from Business Insider [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► wider linking back to Business Insider instead of my site a lot of them were [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► taking the Business Insider headlines and quotes word-for-word it really was [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► Business Insider that that that that led the promotion on this weather willingly [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► or not I don't know doesn't matter but like people do not realize like your [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► site [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► seeds all the tech sites like whenever you write about something all the texts [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► right about a day later Business Insider seeds everything else it's really weird [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► and and I wish it wasn't that way but it really is it's sort of the opposite of [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► my sort of popularity is super niche and so like it is a big deal for some people [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► like if I link to somebody first time ever linked to their blog a lot of [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► people like treat me like oh my god you just made my day and it's hard for me i [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► i dont im still can't say I've ever used to that but I understand I know I know I [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► was like I know what it was like the first time that Slashdot linked to the [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► fireball way back in 2002 was just crazy and as i mean that I loved / died but [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► it's like I knew that shit that big deal right [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► getting on the big front page back in 2006 right I also remember that my site [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► didn't go down and it was you know I thought you know I had up until that [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► point I had no idea whether you know there is no way for me to fake it I [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► couldn't you know know if I would survivors I starting [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► but I don't think like some guy you know somebody wrote a blog post I've never [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► linked to them before i lying to them they're not going to get their mom [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► calling them and say her side during firebombing [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► mom doesn't know who I am neither of them is really cool yeah I mean it's you [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► know if an exception would have to be like you know like Brent Simmons to his [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► moms like a programmer [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► you know I shouldn't say my mom dad anybody who's not in the thing is [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► already one of my regular readers whereas Business Insider has a very for [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► whatever reason as a very broad readership like a typical people what [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► they write goes very far which is unfortunate that so bad usually yeah [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► it's something to do with you know that there are certain brand of socializing [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► stuff well look I mean you know that there are there things in the world that [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► like their choices people can make where you can do things like the good [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► high-quality morally sound way or you take this one little short cut here if [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► you want to give up a little bit of integrity here a little bit of [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► sensationalism here you can boost your numbers by 15 20 30 percent and they [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► choose the latter all the time whereas you choose the former and that's what we [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► consider in our community to be like that the right way to do it if you're if [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► you're shameless enough and if if you prioritize numbers and success of the in [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► a kind over integrity and quality then you can get in see numbers and inseam [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► popularity and and they have chosen that and let's not overstate things here [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► either they're they're certainly not the worst are there you know and the other [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► thing to have talented people and they have had townspeople damn from were used [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► to rate their yeah that's where I met him I used to hate him and then like him [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► the Tumblr offices I made their first and then like he left and became a [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► normal good person it was amazing and I know JJA ro who wrote this piece on you [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► you know he's good he's smart you know you could just tell from my reading is [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► something better [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► Nick Carlson who I think his name published a book on Yahoo and Marissa [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► Meyer you know he's a good reporter and yes I'll give you know and I think it's [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► interesting to think I think the success he's having promoting his book I'm [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► reading a lot of stuff about his book it's just popping up a lot of places I [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► think it just goes to show that at Business Insider they're good at [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► promoting stuff including themselves you know like that's part it's not just that [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► there whether you're good bad or whatever as a writer a reporter being [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► able to self promote is a skill and that to me is part of their a big part of [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► their success yeah yeah absolutely you know and Henry Blodget always had that [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► too [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► founder of the site among some other issues but that's but that's a definite [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► thing that you know it's like there's there's certain people like he's good at [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► getting on TV you know and there's that certain type of wall street person who [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► is like just goes on CNBC all the time and I would drive me nuts I would hate [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► going on TV I would think I'd wanna go on once I can't imagine like the the [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► amount of stress that would bring I would I would definitely if I was ever [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► invited I would definitely decline I've had invitations many times and I almost [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► died I want charlie rose at one time and that was cool and it was also pretty [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► easy because it was like five in the afternoon getting to New York at five in [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► the afternoon and super easy I just take like a 1 o'clock train from Philly and I [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► like going in and anyway so that was that was I had a blast and it was well [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► worth you know it wasn't that much of a time commitment [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► but I've had offers to go on like Bloomberg TV and it's like you know they [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► want me in New York by like 5 a.m. Eastern [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► not gonna work but it really doesn't compute with them that somebody would [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► not want to be on TV like people who are in TV seem to be people who've whether [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► they're on there are not like or whether they're just working as like a producer [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► whatever it seems like the TV industry is only composed of people who've spent [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► their whole lives wanting to be in the TV industry can't it just doesn't [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► compute it it doesn't David they can't grasp but I say you know I really don't [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► think I ever want to be on your show thanks for asking I'm flattered but you [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► know being in New York by 5 a.m. I don't work well also like it's it's similar to [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► the to the whole like you know you should do this for exposure kind of [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► arguments like yeah a lot of times they they don't they can't imagine why [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► anybody would say no to this great honor their bestowing upon you and and the [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► fact is like there's a cost to you being on TV and there's risks to you being on [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► TV and it it just might not be worth it like that's how you know I'm realizing [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► as I'm as I'm getting older and hopefully wiser but I keep making the [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► same mistakes over and over again so probably not wiser but as I get older [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► I'm realizing that like talking to journalists for interviews for stories [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► about you know anything like when they call you for a quote or anything like it [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► is almost never worth agreeing to that because the risk is so high that they're [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► going to distort your words to fit their narrative in a way that you don't [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► approve of that that you can't that's totally under control it's like in this [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► day in age like if I have something to say I can say it on my blog now granted [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► that it has the other problem what should happen which is like a better be [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► sure I said well there and everything right there can be taken included [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► elsewhere but at least I rooted my way like it seems like less of a risk to do [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► it that way then like to be quoted in some random news story and like you have [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► no control over that you usually unless you have a very strong relationship with [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► unusually you can't get like review review or anything and if somebody [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► screwed up and publish something that you didn't quite say there's nothing you [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► can do about it [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► even if even if the correction the damage is done [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► yeah so it's like I'm going on TV is probably even worse because like your [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► life that you can't even carefully think about your words for very long make your [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► life that you need to get a common right now and try to sound smart and it just [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► and everyone's watching you know yeah and it's also it's not leisurely yes I [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► think I I wouldn't say I think I did pretty well on Charlie Rose but they've [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► never had a member of just like I think I immediately forgot about it so it [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► couldn't have been good or bad really mean David Pogue talking about the [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► iPhone 5 like place it two years ago [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► shows iPhone 5 you probably did exactly what you what is like the optimal [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► scenario for a TV appearance like that would be good be completely forgettable [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► because we offer got it and that's that's good because it could go a lot [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► worse it can't really go much better and so that's an antenna you can say I've [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► been on the charlie rose show you can tell your parents they can see it like [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► it's all good and you have all the benefits but but nothing went wrong [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► sitting in a chair that was warmed by Matt Damon's as is that an honor I'm not [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► sure I don't know it's pretty cool though walking into it would you say he [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► was he was sure he's a reader now I learned I learned what to do in that [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► scenario from from Maryland man it's such great advice that you just have to [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► have to know this before just think about it now before there's no famous [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► people around if we ever meet somebody who's famous truly famous and you can [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► get a chance to say something all yet all you say is huge family work that's [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► good did you just say huge fan you work and you mean it you know don't say it if [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► you don't mean it just look at them and say hey great to me a huge huge family [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► work and then that's it you just let him go to me meant maybe neither I think [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► with Damon whenever we didn't even stop walking [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► but it was you know there's a moment I could say something I just said hey huge [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► fan network stacks and then you left me and you heard that story too so yeah [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► anyway what you said is exactly right about talking to reporters where and [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► it's definitely my experience where almost all of them have the story [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► written whether it actually written written or just like in outlining their [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► head they've already got it written and they will take your quote and make it [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► fit what they've already written nine times out of ten so I don't talk to [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► reporters anymore unless I know them and yes I know you don't know him personally [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► or if I'm familiar with their work and trust them [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► yeah and and a different when you know them personally you know and I'll talk [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► to people I know but but that's a pretty small this really now or just you know [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► just from the repair work but yet again but joe joe shmoe from Bloomberg no way [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► not a terrible idea where you can only go badly and it worked there at night [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► when I was interviewing for what what became the Tumblr job that was I was [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► weighing those two offers I iodine offer from both A&B to both places and I get [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► to choose between Bloomberg and his giant glass building where all the walls [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► inside where glass and this caused problems because you couldn't see how to [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► exit the conference room you were in optical illusion everywhere in the event [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► they they they told me they had to add this micro of stickers that looks like [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► company logo of decals on every wall that at approximately I level just so [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► you would like [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► run into things like rental walls it typical corporate design of like it [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► looks really cool doesn't work at all and so I get to waive that of crashing [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► into glass walls and sitting in a very long table with about four feet of width [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► of the table assigned to me [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► little six inch rim around the Deathly uneven cubicle what looked like a six [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► inch rim around my little four-foot space typing on a PC working the Fortran [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► code no or yeah yeah that was the job real and [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► and everyone I interviewed with was not that nice and I thought I bombed the [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► interview and so I got an offer for any of you that I thought I bombed for [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► people I don't really want to work with in this terrible environment like this [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► giant like boiler room kind of environment just like the little strip [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► of a desk but the Fortran terminal or I could go work for this guy who looks [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► like he's 15 David Carr he's working out of some office I don't quite understand [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► a bunch of other people are in but doesn't work for them something summery [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► weather sharing office something everything is red in color from the [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► office full of children's toys and he told me that he buy me a magnet to work [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► on a Mac so that that was really like why I can't believe this code and [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► production I mean it was literally this week simpson's I actually I would I was [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► recently I was light recently sitting next to a guy who works for IBM and he [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► was younger he was in his mid twenties and he saw it but he worked on in IBM's [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► mainframe division which is still running and there's like no big banks [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► and insurance companies and things like they still use IBM mainframes and he [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► writes all in Fortran COBOL one of those two he like that's what he does all day [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► is right low-level mainframe operating system code in COBOL Fortran this crazy [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► in this and he's a mean he wasn't even born when this thing was was originally [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► written I feel bad cuz probably people listen to the show have a job like that [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► yeah I don't really wanna make fun trying to make fun I'm just sort of [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► stunned there's that much inertia yeah programming languages that they just [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► once they get any kind of math success they just never die [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► want a system like that I mean if you think about it like from from like a [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► programmer out of college viewpoint and you think why using Fortran for your [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► bank's large systems that you're stupid that that's done I want to rewrite this [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► whole thing in node or whatever and then you know but the reality is like the [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► wise program would look in that be like [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► this bank's massive financial back end that has been running fine for the most [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► part for like 30 years is written in some crazy language do I want the job of [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► rewriting it from scratch [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► hell no like that's that has red flags all over it [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► you do not want that kind of responsibility get out of there I don't [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► know I don't know any wise programmers who would take that job it's this sort [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► of if it ain't broke don't fix it broke don't rewrite it and certainly don't [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► talk shit when there is a massive amounts of money at stake [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► crazy let's take a break on through the first sponsor and it is our good friends [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► at fracture goes remember fracture you send them your photos and they send them [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► back to you printed directly on glass not paper with a piece of glass in front [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► of him and frame the picture is printed right on the class I've never seen [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► anything else like it you really do kind of have to see it to believe it really [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► makes it seem as though it's right there on the surface I was compared to like [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► when the iPhone switched to the laminate laminated displays putting the pixels [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► closer to the glass it's exactly that sort of effect but with an analog print [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► of your photos they have all sorts of sizes to choose from the square ones [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► that Marco as made famous for printing at Arab icons for every time he sells a [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► nap to somebody makes a copy looks really nice I've been in the marcos off [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► this look great on the wall to really really big ones you know big rectangular [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► ones they ship in these amazing containers that double as like the frame [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► that you can use to hang on the wall or to put on your desk [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► propped up right there in this nifty cardboard shipping container you don't [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► have to buy an extra frame to put the thing in you can mount them directly on [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► August as the glass they look really cool so there's nothing else to buy it [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► now when you get printouts and then you have to go put him in a frame take the [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► frame apart and it's easy so easy you descend on your pictures they send you [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► back [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► printouts of them on glass where do you go to find out more go to their website [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► fracture fracture me.com that's correct and there's a new coupon code use this [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► code daring fireball all one word and you will save 15% on whatever you order [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► so that's great their prices are already fantastic save 15% that use the code [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► sharing fireball and go to fracture me.com and sleepers great sponsor really [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► really recommend them [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► yeah i'm looking right at five fracture prince in my office right now they're [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► all we have all over the place and a great gift idea too so i dont the media [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► backlash over over over representation of your thing is kind of interesting and [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► it's a depressing but I feel like you the better topic is to actually talk [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► about some of the problems Apple software as yes one of the things I got [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► is it definitely agree cuz it it hits such a mainstream media thing I mean [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► people within Apple definitely noticed and I heard from a couple friends at [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► Apple not like pyaar naal pyaar reach and tell me you know trying to spin [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► around and just you know engineers and some of them I I was really interesting [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► what they said all them said different things but like one of them was pretty [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► surprised and more or less do you really think that because you know I you know [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► this is dead friend Apple's moralist paraphrase [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► that you know I think that we've been doing pretty good it seems to me like [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► you know the bug open bugs in radar are lower than they used to be yours ago do [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► you really think that I said I have to say there is something to add to it [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► seems to me like there's more annoyances than there used to be but there are some [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► people with an apple who disagreed and then there are some who did agree but [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► I'm curious I'm curious specifically like there's one thing you are called [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► inhabits didn't really have like a list of here is some of the bugs right end [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► and that was that was ultimately a feeling I wasn't really talking about [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► like here's five things that are there are the problems today I was really [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► talking about the general trend and so it's hard to give a comprehensive list [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► of examples because of me these things are like little annoyances or a little [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► you know occasional failures or occasional bugs I heard from from from a [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► few different engineers and and and I read a couple of Reddit comments from [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► people who are some who are allegedly with an apple and stuff and and it it [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► seems to be a few people thought that everything's fine but most of the people [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► seem to think that that yeah it finally thank you for saying this but that kind [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► of attitude like yes this is like no one listens that kind of that kind of thing [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► and it's hard to get a read on what the truth is there even if these people are [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► the real people who actually work at Apple who knows it could have been some [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► random person the internet but I think there's like your comment about like you [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► know the number of radars like Apple could be measuring things that don't [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► reflect the the overall usage of you know annoyances and bug that actually [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► had people in real life they could be measuring the wrong things or the things [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► they're measuring are changing and so for instance they have built in Crash [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► Reporter in endeavor recent version of every OS that you can say automatically [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► send diagnostic snapple and when stuff breaks but that only dissenter report if [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► a crash happened like if you hit a bug that wasn't a crash that that's that's [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► not going to include that [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► and most of the bugs I see recently aren't crashes like I'm not getting [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► kernel panics my computers you know or you know back when I was that was that [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► was the fault of some drivers [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► yeah and that's one of the things I heard from one of the people who dis was [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► sorta not not really believing in that it was that specifically that crashes [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► are down you know and that's something that they can measure because they have [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► a crush reporter and that just made made him surprised that this was I think an [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► end really was it was not like a defensive take a typical a person very [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► thoughtful really really genuinely curious because he found it surprising [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► really wanted to know and also absolutely believed in sort of pale when [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► there's smoke there's fire you know clearly this Marcos purpose resonated [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► with a lot of people so I want to get to the bottom of you know what this is but [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► crashes definitely aren't exactly and like like earlier tonight one of the [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► many annoyances when using an Apple TV I i turn on the AppleTV after it being [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► asleep for most of the day and it shows three prompts in a row to say your Apple [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► TV is not connected to the Internet like you hit menu and choose another one [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► likes of US three of those that were queued up so those aren't being [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► coalesced and now go back to the home screen and it is going to the internet [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► and radio in new stuff so they were canceled right at which point those [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► things should have been disregarded anyway [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► reminded right file under nevermind why were they even showing when it was [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► asleep and nobody was trying to do anything with it [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► good question there too so those are all quality issues right now not crashes [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► they're not gonna show up any bug reports because I'm not gonna report a [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► lot of talking to a report that on radar like it's not worth the time to even [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► type it up and go to the office forms then I i hit menu a couple times to get [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► out of the deep hierarchy of the movie structure I was in to get back to the [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► home screen I know you can do it all the time but it didn't the first time I had [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► it it went poop and it did it did its thing and then the second time I hit it [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► just went poop poop poop and I kept hitting it and nothing was happening [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► and all the glitches cued up and nothing happens on a hard reset it and in like [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► 30 seconds later it executes all of them like this they'd all queued up so [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► everything's moving around increasing again another bug two night ago I had to [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► actually unplug it and plug it back in to get it to respond to any remote [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► commands I tried two different remotes we have multiple Apple TVs in the house [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► they both have similar bug so I know it's not just one of them being like [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► dying or flaky and i know i mean certainly Merlin has talked a lot about [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► his Apple TV hits used to issues with authenticating content Jeffrey Feltman [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► available TV you know like the way that everything just has the worst murphy's [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► law technology like like Merlin clearly as it is quite like the Apple TV [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► branches that syndrome right exactly and you know and like I so often I will go [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► to watch a movie and it'll sit there on authorizing forever and then eventually [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► fail and it's really like come on I bought this movie we bought my kid is [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► like sitting down he wants to watch something of a minute he's gonna start [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► getting antsy and possibly scream like come on just just come on work that's [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► all [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► like and this is just the Apple TV right end and an airplane to the Apple TV [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► works about a quarter of the time and it doesn't work I can vouch for the fact [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► that it doesn't work with the two or three year old to try to explain in the [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► old days we have to get in the car and drive to Blockbuster and the disc might [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► be scratched right [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► kids kids kids expect the thing that they see on the screen the way when you [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► touch the button exactly so and so this is your Apple TV this is just like one [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► week's worth of just like what I can recall what I can recall over the last [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► two days this is like the Apple TV and that's not even including various like [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► you know like infinite timeouts and and failures with Netflix which I I'll give [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► Apple event of the doubt and assume the Netflix problem but even with Apple's of [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► authorizing the Apple purchased or even [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► that you know that has all those problems so that's one product right and [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► it's an airplane I hear from everybody that airplane doesn't work well for them [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► airplay works fine for me if I'm going to airport express that I have committed [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► to a speaker my kitchen it works fine for that it fills every time for Apple [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► TV or no sorry fell 75 percent of the time for Apple TV like I'll do it a [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► couple times eventually it will take their places on my list and its high on [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► the list because in terms of like canary in the coal mine because it used to be [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► rock solid for me and my typical airplay scenario is almost always is either from [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► my phone from an iPad to Apple TV [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► good example of it is we didn't have Amazon Instant Video on TV until we got [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► a new TiVo sometime I can again last year and a half as Amazon built in [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► because Amazon I dunno but they don't have an app on Apple TV whether it's [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► politics are or what but if you want to watch something that's definitely [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► politics yeah I'm guessing it watches so heavily to every man who are they really [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► yeah ask any man who visit Amazon recently like what's on the front page [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► and it's the bottom row at the bottom of the first screen on amazon.com front [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► page is all top mens watches I have never viewed a link to watch Amazon I've [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► never searched for watching Amazon I have done nothing that would influence [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► that recommendation and it's it's heavily promoting watches and I've heard [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► I tweet about it a couple weeks ago and a bunch of other guys really get me to [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► this art screen shots like every person watching right now obviously this is [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► about the hot line is literally mens blue dial luxury watches [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► I swear I have you ever see that's the thing that's why I might cause I i dont [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► only own two watches but I love I've always loved watches but I only buy them [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► if I think they're absolutely perfect kisses will have only got to look at [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► watches all the time I don't and I don't really look for him on Amazon because [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► Amazon I don't think it's a place where I would buy a while I did buy one there [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► years ago but my citizen there but no i didnt actually I did the right thing [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► with the citizens I found it on Amazon but I wanted to see it in person and I [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► went to a jewelry store in philadelphia so I could see it and it was $15 more [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► expensive in the jewelry store and I thought well this is exactly what I [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► should do wanna buy rate here because I am so glad there's a jury story here or [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► I could see it you know I wanted to give him 50 more dollars now you know that's [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► right I know that thats and I thought you know what I'm like I'm not like the [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► one percent top financial people on the 1% you know who shops thinking like that [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► like the Amazon percent their minds in there is a new yorker couple weeks ago [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► on the cover there was a woman answering her door to take an Amazon box from UPS [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► that was clearly like the size of the ones that they ship the books in looking [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► awkwardly at her neighbor who runs a little neighborhood but anyway I do have [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► mens blue dial luxury watches right on the front page of my hands on TV so I [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► had to you until we have the TiVo I had to their place and it's on to the Apple [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► TV and it always worked it just worked it was great and couple days ago I [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► wanted to watch out for house which is a cool have really fun show I like on [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► Amazon [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► and I was too lazy to switch the TV from Apple TV where he was to TiVo and the [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► TiVos to the pain in the ass anyway so I tried and I just got like a spinner and [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► it just spun and inspired by and eventually I just did have to switch to [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► the TiVo and used that Amazon out there should be the Apple TV logo I for me it [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► used to work very very very consistently any video that wasn't me know there's a [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► flag you can set to say don't you can't airplay but almost nobody said it back [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► then almost any video that I could watch on iPhone or iPad I could switch I can't [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► just flick it continuity style to the Apple TV in I don't know how many [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► seconds but a few seconds then felt like mad everytime and now it's really really [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► a crapshoot exactly and and I mean I've owned every generation Apple TV and I we [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► use them we don't have cable that's the Apple TV is our primary video player we [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► are like me the only media playback we have at our house is Apple TV and a ps3 [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► for Blu ray disc that's it and so we use them heavily and its it has it is [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► definitely been a noticeable decline they were they didn't used to be this [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► bad and so again we can sit here on I am point out things about the Apple TV I [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► mean like it's probably as interesting as here in somebody's I terrible [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► airlines story or their or their dream from last night you know so I don't get [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► bored with all the different pics of like how might stuff has failed but you [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► can look at a lot of the products recently and see a lot of stories like [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► this from everybody Glenn Fleishman solicited things on Twitter and had a [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► really good post like summarizing like yours whenever I'm complaining about I [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► didn't see that where he put that on his blog deadline.com [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► think any way you can sort through his tweets for the last two days to try to [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► like if you're bringing my Twitter client doesn't go back that far too so I [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► don't know what kind of like a special EBI I don't even think the Twitter API [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► anyway it is on the front page of his blog and I will put it in the show [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► yes I do that and then so so that that's part of it like that and i've i've had [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► issues with with your Samedi similar to like I never was talking to a couple of [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► weeks back about at like he should a screenshot of how many copies of his [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► computer there were in the in the Finder source list of like the network share [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► area of the Finder the finer left pane and he was like you know never bergen's [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► laptop 23456 like a giant list of all the different I feel like I've had a lot [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► of issues with that of like things like losing my original computers name [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► showing up as print these two or certain computers just disappearing off we have [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► three computers in our home network here and one printer and an ass box in the [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► closet for network share stuff and at any given time I can usually see between [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► 0 and two of them and liked it and it just like usual you have to reboot not [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► the one to present but you have to reboot long is not showing up I haven't [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► obviously since I used it but I can't wait to but I don't know if his summary [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► goes like this but yours does so far in the couple that I have jotted down all [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► fit in the category of things that don't even have their not Crashers and they [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► don't have error messages so you just silent failures exactly so pretty and [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► there are some Crashers but usually like most people are in the most of the time [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► I think like you know like there there are like pressures are they're bigger [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► problem iOS I think you know and iOS 7 I think was worse than I was a year ago [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► two crashes but so for instance on iOS aid overcast crashes more than that I [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► was seven and a few key areas and an open my fault not heard from a lot of [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► other developers 21 developer even posted stats their app still runs on [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► both and they posted stats like [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► percentage of installs that have crashed on seven vs eight and the percentage any [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► was five times higher and liked it and I and IV had crashes like deeply deepen [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► system frameworks like image I O I have crashes like decoding jpegs for a show [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► art that crashes alot and I was it never happened seven [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► stuff like that like it and you know the the background download in system [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► occasionally has crashes the audio subsystem will crash and everyone blame [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► me for it there's there are so many like subsystem or API League low-level [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► failures are crashes that happen just rarely enough that it's really hard to [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► ever track it down but frequently enough that if you have a crash lawyer in your [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► accuracy of reports for it [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► another one for me and I tweeted about this and I actually got somebody from [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► Apple reached out and they said they would look into it but for me it's the [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► keyboard shortcuts not not not command keys but like when you have teh go to te [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► the Texas man well I think they are right the Texas [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► the future similar to text expander good I think they did I think that's a [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► perfect example though of them adding a feature to the system in an appropriate [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► way where it still leaves text expander plenty of room oh yeah they just do you [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► type this [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► you get that wears text expander has all of the interactive stuff where you can [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► have you know you know the corners on those yea or like I've got the text [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► expander wants to put the date in certain formats right time I keep me [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► know my little shortcut and I get today's date you can't do that you know [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► dynamic variables anyway but they used to sync between devices and then they [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► stopped thinking and they stopped thinking when I switched to the iCloud [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► documents and Cloud Drive iCloud tribe which I had to do over someone and have [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► to but I did over summer was [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► beta testing some stuff you know I want to use it right and so the fact that it [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► stopped working and I understood because maybe they were using you know when they [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► warn you hate when you switch you can't go back you know you're always on it and [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► so I thought oh so that's interesting they must have been using the old [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► storage API's for these keyboard shortcuts in italy did it but now you [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► know who it was like two months after everything that come out of beta you [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► know I was running a new phone running iOS 9 I was running a new just to make [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► it more likely that should work a brand new Retina MacBook Pro running the non [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► beta version of Yosemite and its they still weren't thinking nothing would [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► think most shortcut racing and then in this is this to me is the sort of thing [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► on I'm thinking that you know is is the modern Apple unsteady software they did [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► start sinking but not all of them now like on my phone and on my Mac almost [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► all of them are the same and I definitely never once cause I wanted to [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► see what happened I never once like said ok just take 10 minutes and reproduce [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► them in both places are you have them I just waited and are mostly there but [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► there's one in particular is sort of a game of Where's Waldo like scrolling the [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► two lists trying to find the ones that are missing and it's even made more [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► difficult because they saw in a different order in terms of the way we [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► wanted the way that once regular if it's just alphabetical characters they sort [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► alphabetically but the Mac puts ones with puncture bleeding punctuation at [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► the top and the iPhone put 200 leading punctuation at the bottom so it's a [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► little hard again none of this is is a reportable bug or rather not none of [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► this will report itself to Apple yeah and it's so hard but I know for example [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► I have a custom one could you can use it to add custom words in Sunnyvale I could [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► expansion but I used the word navbar as all one word and a vbar [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► all the time when I'm talking with a viscous about Vesper I called in at the [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► top [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► the nav bar and it's always always on the iPhone like one RBI messaging and [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► auto correcting it and who knows what you know just random guesses from the [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► dictionary that were closed so I put it in my thing and it's on my phone which [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► is the place where I need it but it's not on my Mac whereas like the other I [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► don't know there's like maybe thirty of them seem mostly NSYNC crazy I got in [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► there is never an error message there's never any an error on any device that [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► says they've got a problem with your keyboards shortcuts in can turn it off [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► turn it back on again or nothing no errors I just don't have some of them on [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► both devices yet even worse with this cloud stuff because you have so little [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► insight as to what the problem is if there's even a problem or how to fix the [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► problem once that happens you know if you if you look at if you look at [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► Apple's you know crash rate history let's say somebody inside Apple is [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► looking out like well you know that we have the same rate of crashes now that [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► we did five years ago whatever you know whatever I think you have to also [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► consider that now we are doing a lot more with our devices in our computers [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► we have more devices and computers interacting with each other [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► per person especially around in these crowds and the the the cloud services [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► are this other factor in so many TVs I don't go too far into it here but you [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► know if let's say you have like a 1% bug rate for like you know when you're using [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► this after this service of the OS one percent of the time it won't work right [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► obviously this is made up but bear with me if then you you consider the [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► interaction of two different after services that have the same rate its 2 [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► percent if you consider it again it's not the repaving it's not three percent [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► its four percent does these things don't add they multiply because every as you [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► add more possible ways of interaction between applications services cloud [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► services devices [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► all those failure rates the chance of that any one thing is going to go wrong [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► somehow is the multiple that the product of all those factors not the sum so this [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► grows geometrically and so as you make things more complicated as our devices [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► can do more as we have more devices interacting with each other and also [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► interacting with the cloud services all of these air factors are all multiplied [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► and so you have to you can't just keep quality the same as it used to be like [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► you know like the quality rate per service or perhaps it has to actually [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► get better over time to keep the same overall error rate from happening to [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► somebody yeah yeah and I'm not accusing anybody at Apple of incompetent cause I [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► don't think any of these bugs are like universal it's not like no player play [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► I'm sure I've written words bugs today I mean like a really embarrassing bug two [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► hours ago and overcast like really embarrassing I would bet good I mean [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► that's how real bugs are real bugs are at cases to some degree maybe the too [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► big but it's you know something you didn't think I'm thinking most of the [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► time I'm going if you go to Apple store and buy a new Apple TV and you pick up a [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► new iPhone or iPad and you set them up and create a brand new iCloud account [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► and go to user play it'll just work it'll ninety-nine times out of a hundred [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► that will just work that there's no bug that keeping most people from doing it [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► but there's clearly some bugs that you know and who knows it might be like a [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► hundred different bugs you know the result in the same thing and they're all [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► you know just one-tenth of one percent of people have taken a pass but then it [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► in the aggregate [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► wound up with there's a lot of people who have trouble trouble stuff like this [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► exactly and [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► and again like so many things are hard to report or two minor to report [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► individual problems like through the bug reporter system and a bug reporting [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► system to is is about as hostile as it can be if you go to report a bug on [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► Apple bug reporter you'll be greeted first of all is it still iOS 6 themed so [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► you'll do great improvement over the Aqua used to have a six-team like three [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► days before iowa 7 whether it had but it had like a 10 point oh I don't like when [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► he was back when I was really striking had two big the pinstripes horizontal [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► pinstripes and yes they updated it like an iOS 6 luck right for him before I was [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► so it was like it was like days or weeks before it was hilariously it was like [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► obviously talking to each other about that anyway so you read it with this you [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► know this this pretty terrible web app first of all and then it asked you for [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► like seventeen different fields and then you fill your stuff out and you submit [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► it and they say alright thanks we'll look into it here's a number and in most [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► cases of bugs I filed a file maybe fifty bug so far in my life with Apple in [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► almost every case you will never hear about it again they won't even tell you [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► if it's a duplicate its close it'll sit there open forever sometimes they will [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► tell you after like three months this is a known bug it's a duplicate of the [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► shutterbug I D thank you but then you lose on his ability then you can tell [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► when the other big ideas closed like you guessed it is basically all your books [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► and her thanks [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► alright I just logged into my radar account and here's one that I filed on [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► the 20th of March 2009 [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► State Open ranked No value and its here's what I said when you control it [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► said product Safari when you control click right click on a background tab in [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► Safari for you get a menu with options for things like creating a new tab [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► closing the tab reloading the tab and so forth [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► it would be nice if there were an option to copy the URL for that time that way [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► you can copy the URL for a background tab in a back room window without either [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► activating that window or that particular time I think it's a [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► reasonable request [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► still ahead but it's the fact that it's just their green open yet still waiting [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► for a response from Apple and then and it's this is this is not uncommon [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► this is the common case I'm not mad that they haven't done it actually see you [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► still can't copy at AB it's the same so I'm not mad that they haven't taken my [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► suggestion is done something but that's what everybody that belongs to me that's [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► what I should do with an idea like that is filed a radar right but the fact that [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► it's open late I wouldn't mind if they just said closed now we don't think that [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► we don't think copy belongs in them ok you know thanks for considering the idea [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► it's the fact that it looks to me as though nobody is ever look at it right [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► and which they probably never will until at some point some internists task with [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► going to that list and they dislike both closed the mall or send like like a form [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► of her death to all them saying all right you know is a still a problem [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► please provide a sample project illustrate the problem if you don't [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► automatically closed until he gets it that's the kind of thing you get i mean [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► it's it's just i mean [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► 2011 for bugs here in one of my accounts of 2011 2011 2013 all green no responses [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► I mean so this is this is the problem I have with with you know the typical [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► Apple answer is well please you have to file a bug for anybody find a feature [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► request you have etcetera [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► if you're gonna say that if that's going to be your default response this system [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► has to be better that this system has do it has to be less hostile and it has to [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► somehow give some kind of satisfactory result even if it's as simple as after [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► like a week you say you know thanks we took into consideration or or we're [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► gonna we'll have somebody look at this and then close it like some kind of [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► something that indicates to the person who filed the bug that it was worth [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► their time to have filed it and that's the problem right now you don't have [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► that and so there's no incentive for individuals to file bugs if you think [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► anyone else will ever filed the same bug well there's that the adage that [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► insanity is doing the same thing over the definition of insanity is doing the [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► same thing over and over again and expecting different results [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► you know there's a lot of sense actually true thats to me it seems almost insane [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► to keep filing radars when you expand expecting them to be dealt with when [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► your experiences this is just a waste of my time exactly and I had so many people [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► who work at Apple tell me please file radars they really do matter they really [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► do help please keep filing them and they'll say to you like they also that [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► they get a a surprisingly low number of radars filed for like you would expect [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► certain things to have a lot may say you know certain feature requests are major [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► feature cuts will have like seven radars ever filed on them or something but the [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► problem is like they're yelling at us saying please file bugs their their [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► actions don't back that up [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► what we see on the outside is extremely hostile and demotivating [TS]

01:02:46 ◼   ► hope that sucks I want to come back to that but I want to commit to a big [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► section do a break but before I take a break I just wanted to say nothing too [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► was that your article at the one of the things that had me nodding my head with [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► your article has sort of yeah like now I kind of feel like one of them like a [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► Windows user [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► is so we've got a laser printer here in San HP and I'm pretty happy with the [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► quality and it does wifi and the same when I did write to see p 1525 N W yes [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► when you asked me what the bottle to begin yeah I did I did I did take my [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► usual [TS]

01:03:27 ◼   ► yeah and it doesn't work for and it lies all lies so bad about how much toner it [TS]

01:03:37 ◼   ► has left it like thief in the night might have been saying it has extremely [TS]

01:03:41 ◼   ► low supply levels for about three years and it still produces fine I get it is [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► telling me I'm low on color i print color I swear to god like once a year [TS]

01:03:50 ◼   ► john has like a school project [TS]

01:03:52 ◼   ► everything I know you with the black it told me that I brand of black and [TS]

01:04:02 ◼   ► eventually I really did run out but it was telling me it was like give me this [TS]

01:04:06 ◼   ► error message like I've got no toner none nothing and then the paper would [TS]

01:04:10 ◼   ► come out and looks great and I know what I i from working as do newspapers and [TS]

01:04:17 ◼   ► doing print graphic design for years before I know what low toner looks like [TS]

01:04:22 ◼   ► it's pretty obvious it's not a subtle change its yeah when when you're after a [TS]

01:04:28 ◼   ► toner it it looks like it it's right there right in your face like those [TS]

01:04:33 ◼   ► exactly what it sounds like I can hardly read this the letters are almost [TS]

01:04:36 ◼   ► everything all spotted and yet you could definitely tell anyway it exposes itself [TS]

01:04:41 ◼   ► over bones your head on now but the setup is really kind of easy and I'm [TS]

01:04:50 ◼   ► gonna have to say and going back even further the thing that cracked me up [TS]

01:04:54 ◼   ► about the business insider headline is calling you a long time Mac user [TS]

01:04:57 ◼   ► longtime supporter I don't know anybody had joined the team in 2003 you're not [TS]

01:05:02 ◼   ► long time windows in 2005 [TS]

01:05:07 ◼   ► both for a while one of the things that was never as good on that goes to his [TS]

01:05:11 ◼   ► classic Mac OS was setting up printers like in the old days [TS]

01:05:15 ◼   ► you know and it used to be that you had to get like an apple [TS]

01:05:18 ◼   ► printer either one from Apple AAPL you believe it I used to make printers or [TS]

01:05:23 ◼   ► you know like some kind of Apple compatible printer but it always just [TS]

01:05:27 ◼   ► worked it was that may be the one of the canonical examples of the differences [TS]

01:05:32 ◼   ► between Apple's it just works [TS]

01:05:34 ◼   ► experience and the PC world you never had to worry about drivers anything like [TS]

01:05:38 ◼   ► that you just plug it in there is shows up in your chooser you pick the printer [TS]

01:05:42 ◼   ► and film it works like just was never a problem and in Pakistan I thought that [TS]

01:05:49 ◼   ► just got worse and it was sort of the shift to industry-standard partners [TS]

01:05:53 ◼   ► since sort of just that there's underpinnings of next whenever is hooked [TS]

01:06:00 ◼   ► up to like you know the print world is Apple's classic Mac OS was but anyway I [TS]

01:06:05 ◼   ► got better for a while this printer when I first got it was great [TS]

01:06:09 ◼   ► its you go to the printer thing in System Preferences and there it is [TS]

01:06:13 ◼   ► listed it plus there is listed it's like here's a bonus your printer is the one [TS]

01:06:17 ◼   ► you want [TS]

01:06:17 ◼   ► yes there is just the last week I went to print something and you know and I [TS]

01:06:25 ◼   ► the only printer have any previews I hadn't changed it and it just said it [TS]

01:06:30 ◼   ► can't be reached or something and it nothing with it just wouldn't come out [TS]

01:06:34 ◼   ► like it was just the jobs were queuing up in that thing in the dock so I [TS]

01:06:39 ◼   ► deleted it I deleted the printer and I went to reacted and it wasn't even [TS]

01:06:43 ◼   ► listed and in the old and you know what I did I just thought US I'll print from [TS]

01:06:47 ◼   ► Amy's wanted emailed it to Amy imprinted premies computer and it worked and then [TS]

01:06:54 ◼   ► I'd just left it at that and I realized when I read your article that in the old [TS]

01:06:59 ◼   ► days like three four five years ago when I I would have instantly thought it's [TS]

01:07:03 ◼   ► got to be the printer and went upstairs and just turn the printer on and off and [TS]

01:07:08 ◼   ► in fact that actually worked I did after you know act was the article that may be [TS]

01:07:12 ◼   ► tested and went up turn the printer off turn it back on and then boom it just [TS]

01:07:15 ◼   ► worked reconnecting it to my Mac so it was the printers fall but in the old [TS]

01:07:20 ◼   ► days I would have just assumed it was the printers fault whereas now I thought [TS]

01:07:23 ◼   ► skirt sums wrong with your sanity I think I've had the same issue and it's [TS]

01:07:30 ◼   ► it's it's like I have the same issue with other yosemite Mack Center on the [TS]

01:07:34 ◼   ► network so I think it's it's an issue with light with your somebody losing its [TS]

01:07:39 ◼   ► its its connection to the printer losing its discovery of the princely see you [TS]

01:07:43 ◼   ► there [TS]

01:07:44 ◼   ► they they rewrote some part of the networking stack I don't know the [TS]

01:07:47 ◼   ► details but they combine some of the discovery in and related stuff into this [TS]

01:07:53 ◼   ► new thing called discovery d yes and and people keep reporting lot of WiFi and a [TS]

01:08:00 ◼   ► network discovery issues with yosemite it's probably related to that because [TS]

01:08:04 ◼   ► they changed a bunch of that to enable things like continuity and handoff and [TS]

01:08:07 ◼   ► stuff like that and airdrops of the metal between the two so that stuff all [TS]

01:08:11 ◼   ► changed in december is the most likely source of my spidey sense that was [TS]

01:08:16 ◼   ► Yosemite probably israel it's just the solution of turning the printer off and [TS]

01:08:20 ◼   ► on HP's it know it almost certainly isn't does it look at the same problem [TS]

01:08:25 ◼   ► every Mac on the network I believe a lot of networking problems in in general and [TS]

01:08:31 ◼   ► I go again not one networking issue but just you know [TS]

01:08:35 ◼   ► description of it as the thousand paper cuts is exactly right is a big chunk of [TS]

01:08:39 ◼   ► them seem to be working and not working as hard I mean like you know this is [TS]

01:08:43 ◼   ► entirely like I don't think we know Apple has great people working for them [TS]

01:08:48 ◼   ► we know that these aren't idiots doing this but the fact is like no point in [TS]

01:08:54 ◼   ► the piece was there doing too much and and it's really starting to show it [TS]

01:08:58 ◼   ► always feels like we're using like a 1.0 release or a bit like there used to be [TS]

01:09:04 ◼   ► some kind of stability between betas and and the and the GM's it was never [TS]

01:09:11 ◼   ► perfect but they used to be like a different feel like okay well stuff's [TS]

01:09:14 ◼   ► gonna stop changing right before the diem by some interval time energy and [TS]

01:09:19 ◼   ► will be a higher degree of quality than the betas were and then a couple [TS]

01:09:24 ◼   ► revisions on the line when you have a good point three point four kind of [TS]

01:09:27 ◼   ► rains it'll be really stable for the next year and a half until they release [TS]

01:09:31 ◼   ► a new major version if you treated it used to be I think for for a number of [TS]

01:09:35 ◼   ► years [TS]

01:09:36 ◼   ► I would say it probably covers the years you're early years on the platform like [TS]

01:09:39 ◼   ► that 2004 to 2008 09 as yeah . if you just had the conservative patients to [TS]

01:09:48 ◼   ► treat every release as like minus one you do predict another trusted debaters [TS]

01:09:56 ◼   ► are gonna suck and trust the DGM is really just a beta and then trust that [TS]

01:10:01 ◼   ► 1.0 release of the OS is really like a public beta and wait for like the first [TS]

01:10:08 ◼   ► major public update after the 1.0 you know after system you know iOS 5.0 ships [TS]

01:10:16 ◼   ► wait for 5.01 and maybe 5.02 and you have a really solid OS exactly and and [TS]

01:10:24 ◼   ► these days it feels like we never reach that point of like a few point texts in [TS]

01:10:30 ◼   ► and and now it's stable like now we are always in the beta 1.0 1.1 loop it seems [TS]

01:10:37 ◼   ► and handling technically version wise they've they've passed 1.1 with some of [TS]

01:10:41 ◼   ► these but like it just seems like we and any energy m seem so minimally different [TS]

01:10:48 ◼   ► from the betas terms of quality like it used to be like it seems as though we [TS]

01:10:52 ◼   ► debated that seems like there are they only get around to fixing Crashers you [TS]

01:10:56 ◼   ► know the big one right and they never got around to the cleanup and its guy [TS]

01:10:59 ◼   ► English his point that the annual cycle means that and you know we're probably [TS]

01:11:04 ◼   ► hitting a point right now where a lot of Engineering town that Apple is probably [TS]

01:11:08 ◼   ► going towards the releases of what I you know I'm guessing will be iOS and system [TS]

01:11:21 ◼   ► ten-point 11 exactly like this cycle it doesn't leave time for stability really [TS]

01:11:27 ◼   ► it doesn't leave time for all those boring little bug fixes to be applied to [TS]

01:11:31 ◼   ► the old ancient version that we're all still using because it nothing ever gets [TS]

01:11:35 ◼   ► settled let me take a break and thank our second sponsor and it is your and my [TS]

01:11:42 ◼   ► everybody's very good friends at [TS]

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01:12:38 ◼   ► seven at their site and find out the new stuff but at the highlights they've got [TS]

01:12:42 ◼   ► integration with Google Apps that huge for people are using this with companies [TS]

01:12:47 ◼   ► that use Google Apps [TS]

01:12:50 ◼   ► redesigned their whole interface they have a partnership with Getty Images now [TS]

01:12:54 ◼   ► so you can get stock photos and images right there from within the Squarespace [TS]

01:13:00 ◼   ► interface new templates things like cover pages screens black screens are [TS]

01:13:07 ◼   ► back and probably best overall best thing that I think isn't even technical [TS]

01:13:13 ◼   ► it's their tech support 24 70 hours all days [TS]

01:13:17 ◼   ► you can get tech support via live chat and email in the whole thing that starts [TS]

01:13:22 ◼   ► at eight bucks a month you just can't lose and you get a month when you get a [TS]

01:13:33 ◼   ► month free [TS]

01:13:34 ◼   ► the trial until you start it I think it starts out with as a week but then like [TS]

01:13:39 ◼   ► when you hit that week they'll send an email saying he wanted more time and you [TS]

01:13:44 ◼   ► can click a link yeah that's how confident they are that you're gonna [TS]

01:13:49 ◼   ► stick with it because once you're free trials over eventually you're gonna be [TS]

01:13:54 ◼   ► like i denotes to leave this is great you do it with no credit card required [TS]

01:13:58 ◼   ► just go there and start creating website free so the URL to know that it came [TS]

01:14:06 ◼   ► from the show's square space.com / grouper and the code when you sign-up is [TS]

01:14:13 ◼   ► my initials J gee i don't i don't know why they don't match up but it's that [TS]

01:14:18 ◼   ► Cody needed to keep that in mind because it really doesn't matter what you do [TS]

01:14:21 ◼   ► when you sign up go there just got to Squarespace a comment sign-up as you can [TS]

01:14:24 ◼   ► get a free trial why pay you know take the free trial start its when the free [TS]

01:14:28 ◼   ► trials over you gotta remember the code Gigi and when you use that code you'll [TS]

01:14:33 ◼   ► save 10% to not only will you help support the show but you'll save some of [TS]

01:14:37 ◼   ► your own money as well so my thanks to Squarespace if you need a website do not [TS]

01:14:42 ◼   ► if you don't get groceries first that's my new slogan for Squarespace I can add [TS]

01:14:48 ◼   ► you to my address I like yours I like the one cuz you actually had this story [TS]

01:14:52 ◼   ► about your kids school with the preschool or whatever and ever spent [TS]

01:14:57 ◼   ► $7,000 33 3500 anybody and everybody knows there is not a schools don't have [TS]

01:15:06 ◼   ► money to burn it is no this is not like they don't have money it is like the [TS]

01:15:14 ◼   ► kudos to you for being an involved parent at the school but you get what [TS]

01:15:18 ◼   ► you give me like two days [TS]

01:15:22 ◼   ► we did like two days and building a website and now they do they pay $8 a [TS]

01:15:29 ◼   ► month [TS]

01:15:30 ◼   ► $3,000 for a website that let's face it who knows who they were going to pay [TS]

01:15:35 ◼   ► that there are two but you know what was probably gonna suck anyway I love that [TS]

01:15:39 ◼   ► story that was great yeah it's a clear win for squares and now I'm not even the [TS]

01:15:44 ◼   ► person who's responsible for keeping website updated somebody else does that [TS]

01:15:47 ◼   ► and so it's important to like have something that they can use that isn't [TS]

01:15:51 ◼   ► like my crappy CMS or some really complicated WordPress install and if [TS]

01:15:55 ◼   ► they need support I'm not there said their tech support Squarespace the tech [TS]

01:15:59 ◼   ► support yeah I totally out of it like I did my job my job is done my hands are [TS]

01:16:03 ◼   ► clean and they end it's all in their system now that they can do whatever [TS]

01:16:07 ◼   ► they want to and when they have a question they can get support from [TS]

01:16:09 ◼   ► Squarespace and not me it's ten years ago that same story might have been you [TS]

01:16:14 ◼   ► know that you would have said hey and then go sign him up for like $8 a month [TS]

01:16:18 ◼   ► hosting account and put up an install of WordPress and pick a theme and do this [TS]

01:16:24 ◼   ► and get like mostly the same thing but that you're exactly right now then like [TS]

01:16:27 ◼   ► like six months later and you're reading technique and there's like a big [TS]

01:16:31 ◼   ► vulnerability in WordPress that was exposing your like I don't think that's [TS]

01:16:35 ◼   ► cool that's cool [TS]

01:16:35 ◼   ► there's no way they know and it's on you you just like silently whistle and let [TS]

01:16:41 ◼   ► the school keep going or whether you know you're permanently on the hook for [TS]

01:16:45 ◼   ► being like the you know the guy who's going to fix it or they're like hey we [TS]

01:16:49 ◼   ► want to add another wish to the sidebar can you do that for us because there's [TS]

01:16:52 ◼   ► no clear way for them to do it you know stuff like that it's just it's so much [TS]

01:16:56 ◼   ► better to just outsource this discussion about that and go to yours as I feel [TS]

01:17:00 ◼   ► like perfectly exemplifies why Squarespace advertises the way that they [TS]

01:17:05 ◼   ► do that the way that they advertised over and over and over again [TS]

01:17:08 ◼   ► shows like ours never used to make sense to me but I think it's so that you know [TS]

01:17:13 ◼   ► how many people really need to make a website right now who knows probably [TS]

01:17:17 ◼   ► very few but how many over the course of the next year are gonna find themselves [TS]

01:17:21 ◼   ► in this situation where they do need to make a website and at that moment if [TS]

01:17:24 ◼   ► they get out first thing I think of the Squarespace whom they go there exactly [TS]

01:17:28 ◼   ► yeah I think it works out very well for them that way right it's not about [TS]

01:17:32 ◼   ► needing website while you're listening to it on the show it's eating it in your [TS]

01:17:34 ◼   ► mind so that when you hit that situation where school to spend $4,000 on a [TS]

01:17:40 ◼   ► website that you say no you don't do that I wanna go back to what you were [TS]

01:17:47 ◼   ► talking about in in the US in my notes here for the show talk about Deb [TS]

01:17:52 ◼   ► relations and I think it's a big part of the problem that we're talking about [TS]

01:17:57 ◼   ► here and I think Apple's developer relations is overwhelmed now I don't [TS]

01:18:05 ◼   ► know the numbers and so it's this ballpark figure but for talking with [TS]

01:18:10 ◼   ► somebody at Apple they they're brough estimate is that Microsoft Web Developer [TS]

01:18:18 ◼   ► Relations team is somewhere between 10 and 50 times larger than apples and [TS]

01:18:24 ◼   ► fifty and he was like I wouldn't be surprised and if you're like a serious [TS]

01:18:31 ◼   ► and you have never been I've never written a god damn line of code for [TS]

01:18:35 ◼   ► Windows but you know the basic idea is if you're a professional developer and [TS]

01:18:42 ◼   ► doing some kind of serious work on Windows you can get the attention of [TS]

01:18:46 ◼   ► somebody competent and who can get stuff done on their developer relations team [TS]

01:18:51 ◼   ► and so if you're being driven up the wall by this obscure bug in a framework [TS]

01:18:56 ◼   ► you can get you may not get a solution right away and you certainly may not you [TS]

01:19:02 ◼   ► know it's may not get a version of Windows release that has a fix for it [TS]

01:19:07 ◼   ► right away but you can at least get somebody's attention to get it in front [TS]

01:19:12 ◼   ► of the right people and it doesn't feel like when you're reporting things to [TS]

01:19:16 ◼   ► Microsoft doesn't feel like you're you know just filing things into a black [TS]

01:19:22 ◼   ► hole and that Apple's developer relations not that they're not [TS]

01:19:27 ◼   ► well-meaning but that they're just overwhelmed absolutely positively [TS]

01:19:30 ◼   ► overwhelmed and it's it's like Microsoft Developer Relations team is of a size [TS]

01:19:37 ◼   ► that is appropriate for a company that had and saw as its rightful place that [TS]

01:19:44 ◼   ► 90% of all software in the world is written for it and Apple's developer [TS]

01:19:49 ◼   ► relations is still have a scale of a company that has like three or four [TS]

01:19:55 ◼   ► percent of the software in the world will also like the the whole structure [TS]

01:19:59 ◼   ► of how how it's set up with the public or with the developers is radically [TS]

01:20:04 ◼   ► different from the set up at the way Apple's a setup is is it's fairly [TS]

01:20:12 ◼   ► hostile at first like Apple appears to be this brick wall that you have no way [TS]

01:20:19 ◼   ► in like there's there is nowhere on as far as I know I don't think there's [TS]

01:20:24 ◼   ► there's like a list or an email address to ask a developer evangelist question [TS]

01:20:29 ◼   ► so I guess I just serviced by I've always wondered why is there a public [TS]

01:20:34 ◼   ► list anywhere of who the apple of Angeles even are and if you search [TS]

01:20:40 ◼   ► Google for Apple Developer evangelists nowhere on on the first page is anything [TS]

01:20:44 ◼   ► from Apple there's there's a git hub just where somebody else some random [TS]

01:20:48 ◼   ► person has compiled the list from WDC and and has a question marks on it too [TS]

01:20:56 ◼   ► like this every every year to BBC you can always tell hit in the first few [TS]

01:21:04 ◼   ► days if you look around some of the bigger sessions the very last slide they [TS]

01:21:09 ◼   ► will show the presenter's name their email address and their title that is [TS]

01:21:15 ◼   ► usually the first time you see their title it is almost certainly the first [TS]

01:21:18 ◼   ► time you see their email address and you look around the room at next logon [TS]

01:21:22 ◼   ► screen for about eight seconds and you see half the room [TS]

01:21:25 ◼   ► racing to write down that email address taking pictures of it yeah I've noticed [TS]

01:21:30 ◼   ► that in recent years now [TS]

01:21:32 ◼   ► yeah because like that's like this that's right the first time the most [TS]

01:21:37 ◼   ► people say oh my god there's somebody who works in Apple in the developer [TS]

01:21:42 ◼   ► group somewhere that I can contact us I think people worry rightfully that they [TS]

01:21:46 ◼   ► want to write it down and get a picture of it now because who knows if they're [TS]

01:21:50 ◼   ► gonna cut it out of the published version a lot of those videos [TS]

01:21:56 ◼   ► mistakes out without laughter applause that economy lot like if all of a sudden [TS]

01:22:01 ◼   ► this guy gets overwhelmed with the email maybe that you know they're going to [TS]

01:22:04 ◼   ► take his email out so better kick it that way you can I know I think it's [TS]

01:22:11 ◼   ► weird like that these people's job is to interact with the public with the [TS]

01:22:16 ◼   ► developers at least the developer public about these frameworks in these areas of [TS]

01:22:20 ◼   ► development there's no list on Apple site anywhere that list them like that's [TS]

01:22:24 ◼   ► weird isn't it I don't think that it's malice I don't think it's that they [TS]

01:22:29 ◼   ► don't mean well I in fact the people I know in Apple Developer Relations for [TS]

01:22:33 ◼   ► the most part are great people and the least I had never met anybody like I [TS]

01:22:36 ◼   ► would call unpleasant I would really sharp I think that they are overwhelmed [TS]

01:22:41 ◼   ► though I think that they sure they've stepped up somewhat but I think for the [TS]

01:22:45 ◼   ► most part thereof a basic magnitude that was appropriate for Apple ten fifteen [TS]

01:22:51 ◼   ► years ago and now they're one of if not the most popular developer platform in [TS]

01:22:58 ◼   ► the world and they're just overwhelmed again that the number that I heard from [TS]

01:23:02 ◼   ► some guy got a rough estimate but that Microsoft's team is 10 to 50 cent [TS]

01:23:06 ◼   ► 10 to 50 times larger than my early different and this this list on github [TS]

01:23:11 ◼   ► of Hoodia vendela sorry Apple has a twelve people on it it's a pretty small [TS]

01:23:15 ◼   ► and they are you know if there is one that would explain a lot because you [TS]

01:23:23 ◼   ► know even like there's there's developer relations managers are representatives [TS]

01:23:29 ◼   ► like people say oh I talked to a developer rapper my developer Rep [TS]

01:23:32 ◼   ► I don't know how you go about getting a developer rep for the first time 105 [TS]

01:23:39 ◼   ► years that I hadn't happened after all been to paper and all the magazine I [TS]

01:23:44 ◼   ► never I could never find one no one ever contacted me I didn't have a developer [TS]

01:23:50 ◼   ► Epic if that even as a thing it wasn't until overcast that somebody is somebody [TS]

01:23:57 ◼   ► emailed me from you know some press thing they reached out and so it wasn't [TS]

01:24:03 ◼   ► really until that that I had like a contact that I could email at Apple to [TS]

01:24:09 ◼   ► ask the question to or to bring concern to like he was like it wasn't until last [TS]

01:24:15 ◼   ► year and I've been in the App Store since 2008 and and when I want to [TS]

01:24:22 ◼   ► mention this to the person they just and let's not mince words with some success [TS]

01:24:27 ◼   ► yeah I mean it's not you know you know it's not like you wrote you too but you [TS]

01:24:34 ◼   ► know pretty popular apps right and and yet didn't matter and and when I mention [TS]

01:24:39 ◼   ► this is this person that I had never found any contacts in about relations [TS]

01:24:42 ◼   ► before they were like they were surprisingly really are you surely that [TS]

01:24:47 ◼   ► that really thats like they were even surprised at that but like I don't think [TS]

01:24:52 ◼   ► the people in the Developer Relations Division I don't think they have a good [TS]

01:24:57 ◼   ► idea of how it looks from the outside of of how how the developer relations [TS]

01:25:02 ◼   ► system and how Apple as a whole [TS]

01:25:05 ◼   ► appears to and communicates with developers who are not in with somebody [TS]

01:25:10 ◼   ► just what I've heard and I believe it and it definitely plays on developer [TS]

01:25:15 ◼   ► relations but they're so overwhelmed [TS]

01:25:17 ◼   ► relations that the wraps are just and they're not and not known and hard to [TS]

01:25:22 ◼   ► initiate contact with and even once they do it just never becomes a priority that [TS]

01:25:27 ◼   ► the whole internal color radar but and maybe it's maybe that's not just [TS]

01:25:32 ◼   ► remember radar system database but the whole radar system is entirely geared [TS]

01:25:37 ◼   ► internally toward fixing bugs from within Apple itself right so if you're [TS]

01:25:42 ◼   ► on if you're writing you're one of the engineers on pages and you run into a [TS]

01:25:46 ◼   ► text kid bug it gets taken care of exactly as you would think and it goes [TS]

01:25:51 ◼   ► up the post gets put in front of the right person and they run your example [TS]

01:25:56 ◼   ► project and say oh I see [TS]

01:25:58 ◼   ► fix it and then you know it just works at all but it's there's nothing like [TS]

01:26:03 ◼   ► that from the outside like it's like 99% internal and like 1% external and I'm [TS]

01:26:10 ◼   ► not saying the balance should be fifty fifty you know I think it's obvious that [TS]

01:26:15 ◼   ► of course Apple's gonna fix their own bugs first but it's it's just not even [TS]

01:26:20 ◼   ► close and it's not even like oh poor US port third-party developers were not [TS]

01:26:26 ◼   ► gonna bug fix its these are things that affect users everybody you know the bug [TS]

01:26:30 ◼   ► work we're fighting for these bugs because they affect the experience of [TS]

01:26:33 ◼   ► the users right exactly I don't know I mean I don't know how you solve this [TS]

01:26:39 ◼   ► problem except by making certain parts of Apple much bigger and that's [TS]

01:26:43 ◼   ► obviously not an easy thing to do like you know they're all the little man [TS]

01:26:47 ◼   ► month kind of things like and I think it's a step up I think it's a scary [TS]

01:26:51 ◼   ► thing for them to do to you know they've seen it over the you know everybody's [TS]

01:26:57 ◼   ► seen this industry for 20 years and everybody knows that Microsoft got a lot [TS]

01:27:01 ◼   ► bigger and then it got it got slow and lumbering and they also you know they're [TS]

01:27:08 ◼   ► gonna have trouble staffing up possibly because when you work for Apple you have [TS]

01:27:14 ◼   ► you know you have to first of all you have to be there like they don't do [TS]

01:27:18 ◼   ► remote work for most things that have a couple remote offices for certainly [TS]

01:27:21 ◼   ► isolated projects but for the most part they don't do remote work so you have to [TS]

01:27:25 ◼   ► be there [TS]

01:27:26 ◼   ► they're competing with everyone else in the Silicon Valley region for top talent [TS]

01:27:31 ◼   ► and that is that is extremely competitive and and I would imagine they [TS]

01:27:38 ◼   ► probably have trouble retaining a lot of these good people because like i mean [TS]

01:27:42 ◼   ► you know we know tons of times like our friends and people we knew that Apple [TS]

01:27:46 ◼   ► who like they were an apple for a while and then they want to go out and try [TS]

01:27:49 ◼   ► being iOS developer or being being a Mac Developer themselves independently [TS]

01:27:53 ◼   ► because when you're in Apple you can have side projects is funny about being [TS]

01:27:57 ◼   ► a developer relations rap is even more because your job is reaching out to [TS]

01:28:03 ◼   ► other people and they're gonna be like wow you're awesome if you're if you are [TS]

01:28:10 ◼   ► if you're like an iOS expert who has worked for Apple that's a pretty good [TS]

01:28:15 ◼   ► qualifier I would imagine it makes you pretty valuable on the market so I [TS]

01:28:20 ◼   ► expect they probably have a lot of trouble [TS]

01:28:22 ◼   ► first attracting and retaining great talent there in addition to any cultural [TS]

01:28:28 ◼   ► issues that and challenges that would come with trying to grow the company is [TS]

01:28:31 ◼   ► substantially larger so but I don't really see a way around that being the [TS]

01:28:36 ◼   ► eventual outcome like I don't think they can keep the company the current size [TS]

01:28:41 ◼   ► and I know they also have issues with like they don't have the space for the [TS]

01:28:44 ◼   ► bill was John new campus like they're out of room to but you know it's there's [TS]

01:28:48 ◼   ► all these problems but you know they're these problems are just can't disappear [TS]

01:28:52 ◼   ► and III I think they are working towards I hope they're working towards that but [TS]

01:28:58 ◼   ► I think there's going to be some uncomfortable migration uncomfortable [TS]

01:29:01 ◼   ► growth as the company becomes a bigger organization but I think it has to be [TS]

01:29:06 ◼   ► yeah I think people are a third-party developers are exercising things that [TS]

01:29:12 ◼   ► just don't get exercised within Apple you know I would say like the extensions [TS]

01:29:17 ◼   ► are perfect example of that [TS]

01:29:19 ◼   ► sharing extensions where I knew they would be used for but the things that [TS]

01:29:24 ◼   ► Apple itself really want to they're there they were already there anyway [TS]

01:29:27 ◼   ► because if Apple collectively agreed hey this should be in the sharing extension [TS]

01:29:32 ◼   ► for everybody that it was built into the systems [TS]

01:29:34 ◼   ► sharing panel was only one third-party developers started doing it but note [TS]

01:29:39 ◼   ► that thing is so full of little tiny bugs like the way that when you reorder [TS]

01:29:42 ◼   ► them and just want a little things like that you know it's a perfect example [TS]

01:29:49 ◼   ► something that did to me doesn't quite work right then and there is there's a [TS]

01:29:53 ◼   ► couple a little by little limitations then there have been pretty big [TS]

01:29:57 ◼   ► ramifications i believe it was Brian [TS]

01:29:57 ◼   ► ramifications i believe it was Brian [TS]

01:30:00 ◼   ► high rates of tumblr made a nice blog post right before I was 18 out listing [TS]

01:30:04 ◼   ► like all the little challenges that they had with the top tension and yeah he did [TS]

01:30:09 ◼   ► the right thing he reported the malls radars listed all the radar numbers in [TS]

01:30:12 ◼   ► the post and everything but you know they they they actually like i remember [TS]

01:30:19 ◼   ► i dont public anyway so what we learned building the iOS tumblr iOS share [TS]

01:30:27 ◼   ► extension yet exactly exactly so it will be in the show so we have we have the [TS]

01:30:33 ◼   ► system itself in as bugs it has limitations it's you know that's got to [TS]

01:30:38 ◼   ► get better and you know hopefully it will over time I probably well but I [TS]

01:30:42 ◼   ► think you know and and all the stuff around the a projection is pretty [TS]

01:30:46 ◼   ► substantially worse to like all the rejections around as I think what we're [TS]

01:30:50 ◼   ► seeing is the the policy from Apple is pretty clear the policy is the implied [TS]

01:30:59 ◼   ► policy rather is keyboards should not contain anything that isn't a keyboard [TS]

01:31:04 ◼   ► like you know it shouldn't be able to do anything that is not like text entry you [TS]

01:31:10 ◼   ► know it shouldn't be issued have any other cool features built-in calculator [TS]

01:31:14 ◼   ► built on your keyboard like the obviously like this is the implied rule [TS]

01:31:18 ◼   ► your keyboard should only be a key part of some sort [TS]

01:31:21 ◼   ► no extras can put a virgin a desert golfing and has a keyboard correct [TS]

01:31:26 ◼   ► similarly your today view your today extension or whatever they're called [TS]

01:31:30 ◼   ► your today view should or must be in general a quick glance kind of thing it [TS]

01:31:37 ◼   ► shouldn't be the place where you spend time it shouldn't be a place where you [TS]

01:31:40 ◼   ► complete a long running task it should just be a quick view those are the [TS]

01:31:45 ◼   ► implied rules but they won't come out and say that they they won't codify that [TS]

01:31:50 ◼   ► and say this is the rule to high-level rule this should only be used for this [TS]

01:31:55 ◼   ► like that's clearly what they want but what they're saying instead is well try [TS]

01:32:02 ◼   ► to draw the line exactly where like more precisely where there should be more [TS]

01:32:05 ◼   ► low-level they say well you can't have buttons at lunch or after you can [TS]

01:32:08 ◼   ► complete the task or you can have too many buttons are you can't this kind of [TS]

01:32:12 ◼   ► knew you can't simulate [TS]

01:32:13 ◼   ► keyboard today really they try to come up with all these little tiny [TS]

01:32:16 ◼   ► explanations of lower level implementation detailed rules but that's [TS]

01:32:21 ◼   ► clearly not like those are all just you know that the data somebody not wanting [TS]

01:32:26 ◼   ► to state the real rule the higher-level richter's this system is intended only [TS]

01:32:32 ◼   ► for this you can all you're only allowed to do this and it's just not I don't [TS]

01:32:39 ◼   ► know I don't know why they won't just say the higher level I think that would [TS]

01:32:43 ◼   ► actually generate less controversy and would be easier for developers to follow [TS]

01:32:47 ◼   ► and to not like say certainly some developer well does this count but you [TS]

01:32:51 ◼   ► know you see the hell of a ruling that would give you some idea like if I stray [TS]

01:32:55 ◼   ► from this it's going to be rocky territory after an objection risk i I [TS]

01:32:59 ◼   ► think the absence of definitely plays into it I don't know how different that [TS]

01:33:02 ◼   ► is from typical Dave relations but it ought to be tied up cuz it's in Apple's [TS]

01:33:06 ◼   ► view the App Store is an app for iOS it absolutely is the only way other than [TS]

01:33:11 ◼   ► that enterprise stuff you know it's the only way it's it's an inextricable part [TS]

01:33:16 ◼   ► of the development process so App Store problems should be considered developer [TS]

01:33:20 ◼   ► relations problems it the whole thing like with the pain the recent things [TS]

01:33:24 ◼   ► panic has gone through and like where they had the issue with their saving [TS]

01:33:31 ◼   ► feature in transmitted where you know they didn't want to be able to save to [TS]

01:33:36 ◼   ► iCloud drive and therefore they had to take the whole thing out because even [TS]

01:33:39 ◼   ► the stuff that hooks up to Dropbox and box.net because there's no control over [TS]

01:33:43 ◼   ► that you know I wrote about it [TS]

01:33:46 ◼   ► couple other people wrote about it and then you know Senior Center mines [TS]

01:33:50 ◼   ► prevailed and ok got it fixed and there's this whole and everybody agrees [TS]

01:33:54 ◼   ► on everybody that you shouldn't have to have you know during fireball publish it [TS]

01:34:00 ◼   ► to get your story [TS]

01:34:02 ◼   ► text you shouldn't have to go public to get that and you shouldn't have to be of [TS]

01:34:06 ◼   ► the prominence of panic to do that you know like some upstart who nobody's [TS]

01:34:14 ◼   ► heard of yet should be able to get the steno the same reasonable correction [TS]

01:34:19 ◼   ► with an App Store problem that panic right and they have they have the appeal [TS]

01:34:25 ◼   ► system set up there so in theory this should work you should be able to go to [TS]

01:34:30 ◼   ► the appeal which like you know from what I understand so you know that you have [TS]

01:34:34 ◼   ► the reviewers among level and foreign interests and the appeal doesn't just go [TS]

01:34:37 ◼   ► to the same people goes to a level above those people and so if some reviewers [TS]

01:34:42 ◼   ► made a bad call the appeal should work the system that's in place there should [TS]

01:34:47 ◼   ► work [TS]

01:34:48 ◼   ► the question is why doesn't it work as well as run to the press like right into [TS]

01:34:53 ◼   ► the press and making a big stink yet it's gonna work it by the way of PR work [TS]

01:34:57 ◼   ► that that's going to work a little bit better you know on occasion but it [TS]

01:35:01 ◼   ► shouldn't work so much better it shouldn't be like that and in panic even [TS]

01:35:05 ◼   ► set up in panic will see these things in the nicest way possible because they [TS]

01:35:09 ◼   ► don't wanna start earning and stuff but but you know they even said like it's [TS]

01:35:14 ◼   ► unfortunate but you know this method is what works and we've gotten a Q branch [TS]

01:35:19 ◼   ► we've gotten bugs fixed because we know people who work on the framework that [TS]

01:35:24 ◼   ► we're having a problem with and we could you know I think literally at WABC Brent [TS]

01:35:31 ◼   ► had like coffee with somebody and showed the example price which he had already [TS]

01:35:35 ◼   ► submitted months ago in a radar you know here's a simple 39 example prod project [TS]

01:35:40 ◼   ► that shows the bug exactly he got to show it to a guy from the framework team [TS]

01:35:45 ◼   ► right in his face you know not a confrontational you know brand but it [TS]

01:35:49 ◼   ► was you know drinking coffee at the hotel bar and I see I know if there is [TS]

01:35:54 ◼   ► any like you know made a note of it and but you shouldn't have to know somebody [TS]

01:35:57 ◼   ► and have coffee with an engineer [TS]

01:36:00 ◼   ► you know it's just because Brent knew that you know known for years that [TS]

01:36:04 ◼   ► doesn't skip to say that that doesn't scale is you know self-evident right i [TS]

01:36:10 ◼   ► mean so you have in the reality of the iOS ecosystem and the Mac the reality of [TS]

01:36:15 ◼   ► the Apple ecosystem is that you have the official channels up later use this [TS]

01:36:21 ◼   ► tremendous wall and filter [TS]

01:36:23 ◼   ► and you know what you said only makes sense that they are extremely [TS]

01:36:27 ◼   ► understaffed these areas or they they're not selling very well that that explains [TS]

01:36:32 ◼   ► a lot because it seems like we're the general public is is shown to go is just [TS]

01:36:37 ◼   ► a law that is extremely ineffective has very few ways in and it is just very [TS]

01:36:43 ◼   ► off-putting and and just you know they're they're trying to deflect it to [TS]

01:36:48 ◼   ► me it's like when you call the company and you get put on hold for 35 minutes [TS]

01:36:51 ◼   ► and some text menu that really want you to follow a self-help options like they [TS]

01:36:55 ◼   ► don't want you to get in through the public way because they can't handle it [TS]

01:36:59 ◼   ► all then you have all of us going through at the side door could you know [TS]

01:37:03 ◼   ► somebody and that ends up working better that's not good like that you should be [TS]

01:37:08 ◼   ► embarrassing that should be a major problem it seems like something they [TS]

01:37:11 ◼   ► could fix because you know again I think the biggest problem is what you said [TS]

01:37:16 ◼   ► which is just that hiring talented people in general is hard and especially [TS]

01:37:19 ◼   ► hard in the valley but you know that's what works money and guess what Apple [TS]

01:37:26 ◼   ► has to have money so I I can't help but think it is fixable and you know that [TS]

01:37:32 ◼   ► they have to always keep everybody Cupertino right like the things like [TS]

01:37:37 ◼   ► there are parts of their business that can be easily on so that's what location [TS]

01:37:41 ◼   ► like I work in Pittsburgh like they like there are parts of Apple's business they [TS]

01:37:45 ◼   ► can be other places and and I think I think gus was saying they're opening up [TS]

01:37:49 ◼   ► an office in Seattle yeah so like it looks like they might be starting to be [TS]

01:37:54 ◼   ► more willing to bring this out a little bit but yeah I think the Seattle office [TS]

01:37:57 ◼   ► is going to be cloud stuff that's the rumor I don't know I don't have any good [TS]

01:38:01 ◼   ► but yes I i think you know they they they need to start breaking down some of [TS]

01:38:09 ◼   ► these barriers with themselves of like the way they do way they've always done [TS]

01:38:13 ◼   ► things or the or the kind of the rules I haven't really given a severance to work [TS]

01:38:18 ◼   ► on site you better make more sites because more places because that's like [TS]

01:38:24 ◼   ► they have to become a bigger company there are so many areas where there [TS]

01:38:27 ◼   ► clearly understaffed under-resourced and as it is not for money like it's it's [TS]

01:38:32 ◼   ► not because of money [TS]

01:38:33 ◼   ► far as we can tell unless they foresee a near-term future where they're not going [TS]

01:38:39 ◼   ► to have so many third party developers and I i don't see how they could [TS]

01:38:42 ◼   ► possibly think that because it doesn't see I don't see how that's possible they [TS]

01:38:48 ◼   ► they really need a bigger developer relations team much bigger like tractor [TS]

01:38:51 ◼   ► factor of 10 with not just ahead Campbell with authority within the [TS]

01:38:57 ◼   ► company to to get issues escalated and put in front of the right people and [TS]

01:39:03 ◼   ► there's this week is going on in this has been the topic of the week I'm [TS]

01:39:06 ◼   ► thinking my should my thinking has shifted more and more that it's a lot [TS]

01:39:10 ◼   ► more a developer relations problem and lot less to do to what I initially had [TS]

01:39:16 ◼   ► been thinking for a long time which is the annual release cycle of the two OS's [TS]

01:39:19 ◼   ► why did the two different problems I mean I don't think so and i think it's [TS]

01:39:25 ◼   ► you know it's clearly multivariable and those are both definitely two of the [TS]

01:39:29 ◼   ► variables absolutely but my thinking has shifted in terms of which one is a [TS]

01:39:33 ◼   ► bigger problem and I think to which one to my eyes measures with the timeline of [TS]

01:39:42 ◼   ► what I am scene i've you know i think that it's as iOS has gotten more [TS]

01:39:47 ◼   ► complicated and therefore there are more things that could go wrong and as the [TS]

01:39:54 ◼   ► ratio of developers to develop relations people within Apple has gotten more and [TS]

01:40:01 ◼   ► more absurd that correlates to me to my eyes with the shift in quality and again [TS]

01:40:09 ◼   ► I think hockenberry nailed it it's like loose screws it's the software [TS]

01:40:14 ◼   ► equivalent of loose screws yeah just like sloppy little flaws that aren't [TS]

01:40:18 ◼   ► fatal but I mean the I think these problems are intertwined you know like [TS]

01:40:24 ◼   ► like it's hard it's hard to say well developer relations is possible for a [TS]

01:40:29 ◼   ► general decline in quality and Apple software and services right to simple [TS]

01:40:33 ◼   ► that way to sample right now but if you look at certain parts you can say light [TS]

01:40:38 ◼   ► well [TS]

01:40:39 ◼   ► if there if they're saying that they're not seeing more bugs being reported and [TS]

01:40:44 ◼   ► therefore they don't know what problems to fix they don't have enough [TS]

01:40:46 ◼   ► information to fix them why aren't more books being reported and then you can [TS]

01:40:49 ◼   ► start following that rebel 200 well actually this is related to develop [TS]

01:40:53 ◼   ► relations or related to the bug reporting system related to the way the [TS]

01:40:56 ◼   ► image Apple has among developers and the personality like the the personality of [TS]

01:41:02 ◼   ► individual people with an Apple ads I've spoken with over the 90 couldn't [TS]

01:41:06 ◼   ► possibly be more different than the public persona of Apple the public [TS]

01:41:11 ◼   ► persona of Apple is as it's a brick wall and it's it's pretty terse and it's [TS]

01:41:15 ◼   ► pretty unwelcoming to developers and and to public input of any kind really yeah [TS]

01:41:21 ◼   ► but the individual people I have met and spoken with an apple or the complete [TS]

01:41:25 ◼   ► opposite there there are friendly normal people there are friends like so when [TS]

01:41:30 ◼   ► they get there and he take enormous pride in your work you can if you are [TS]

01:41:34 ◼   ► lucky enough to get your bug in front of the person who can I can engineer who [TS]

01:41:38 ◼   ► can fix it that they're going to take care of it they are offended by any and [TS]

01:41:42 ◼   ► all books right because they're good engineers like so so what is the [TS]

01:41:46 ◼   ► distance here is a process issue is it a policy issue is a just like inertia [TS]

01:41:52 ◼   ► going in the wrong direction certain things I don't know but the issues and [TS]

01:41:57 ◼   ► Apple are seemingly seemingly deep-rooted it's something that's like [TS]

01:42:02 ◼   ► not budging you know what's up some part of the culture inside or the other [TS]

01:42:06 ◼   ► process the way things are done is it needs to be modernized and in and it [TS]

01:42:11 ◼   ► hasn't been yet and that's not an easy thing to do you know that's mean I don't [TS]

01:42:15 ◼   ► know anyone big companies but I wonder how much to the historical artifacts of [TS]

01:42:20 ◼   ► the size of their developer relations team being relatively small how much of [TS]

01:42:25 ◼   ► a trade leads to not just the fact that ten fifteen twenty years ago Apple was a [TS]

01:42:31 ◼   ► smaller company be far fewer users and see had far fewer developers but also [TS]

01:42:37 ◼   ► with the peculiar nature of the third party to modernize peculiar to our [TS]

01:42:43 ◼   ► current eyes [TS]

01:42:43 ◼   ► of that it was dominated by just like three or four huge companies Adobe [TS]

01:42:48 ◼   ► Microsoft you know gossip farmer and Macromedia you know you know maybe more [TS]

01:42:57 ◼   ► than 45 but you know that you just 10 11 12 big big developers who I think and by [TS]

01:43:04 ◼   ► all accounts and I heard you know did have you know like platinum card [TS]

01:43:09 ◼   ► developer relations treatment from Apple and that they were there sort of built [TS]

01:43:14 ◼   ► up for that sort of world yeah that's that's a very very good point I mean [TS]

01:43:19 ◼   ► it's a lot of Apple like even if you look like the SVP roles you know why why [TS]

01:43:26 ◼   ► is the entire developer relations system under the head of marketing why is the [TS]

01:43:33 ◼   ► entire cloud infrastructure system why the same guy responsible for the entire [TS]

01:43:38 ◼   ► cloud obstruction system and also negotiating deals with record labels [TS]

01:43:41 ◼   ► like like I I think they need they need to get wider as an organization they [TS]

01:43:48 ◼   ► need like more divisions and they need each they need these divisions to have [TS]

01:43:52 ◼   ► like me no more more power at the top or more say and like I said I i treated a [TS]

01:43:58 ◼   ► while ago if you want to see a play areas where apple doesn't do so well [TS]

01:44:02 ◼   ► look at which St P's have way too much on their plate well I did and then again [TS]

01:44:07 ◼   ► I don't think it's like personally I don't think Phil Schiller and EQ are you [TS]

01:44:12 ◼   ► know we get their jobs I'm saying like if that's the relation to structured [TS]

01:44:16 ◼   ► where all these things are under like you know like fairly disparate things [TS]

01:44:20 ◼   ► are under one organization with one person representing the top I think [TS]

01:44:25 ◼   ► that's too much on their plate if anything it's that they're effective at [TS]

01:44:29 ◼   ► their jobs I mean I was was explicit it was a rare instance where they publicly [TS]

01:44:34 ◼   ► said they added maps to any Q's play you know they usually they don't make [TS]

01:44:40 ◼   ► announcements like that publicly but forestall thing was had to be done so [TS]

01:44:44 ◼   ► much publicly [TS]

01:44:45 ◼   ► and the explanation was Eddie you know get stuff done so [TS]

01:44:49 ◼   ► maps need stuff done so now it's a tease and at you know truth be told Maps has [TS]

01:44:53 ◼   ► gotten significantly better yeah people still people point to maps maps is a bad [TS]

01:44:58 ◼   ► example in my opinion because maps is a product that I think it's clearly headed [TS]

01:45:01 ◼   ► in the right direction is it possible that it could be headed in that [TS]

01:45:04 ◼   ► direction faster I guess of course you can always do somewhat better and is it [TS]

01:45:09 ◼   ► is it is good quality wise is Google Maps know but thats I think that's [TS]

01:45:13 ◼   ► mainly because Google still has the pedal to the metal on Google Maps and [TS]

01:45:17 ◼   ► Google is improving Google Maps a very quick rate and so Apple maps might lag [TS]

01:45:24 ◼   ► behind it for years to come until they sort of get to the you know the point of [TS]

01:45:29 ◼   ► diminishing returns were there both in as close to perfect as they can get [TS]

01:45:33 ◼   ► I think that's a bad example cuz I think they're getting a lot better [TS]

01:45:36 ◼   ► well i i disagree with with with the chances of me as being you know [TS]

01:45:40 ◼   ► eventually tie up with you gonna be like those kind of large big data problems [TS]

01:45:45 ◼   ► Apple has never shown they're very good at them they they where we're at the [TS]

01:45:49 ◼   ► couple gets a bum rap is is the general cloud services I think maps today Apple [TS]

01:45:55 ◼   ► maps today is already better than Google Maps was a few years ago I'm not quite [TS]

01:45:59 ◼   ► sure how many of you with that but I get I get I used to get bad bad driving [TS]

01:46:05 ◼   ► directions from Google Maps you know it was always better it was just like with [TS]

01:46:09 ◼   ► search where I was I guess I used MapQuest before and right when I [TS]

01:46:13 ◼   ► switched to Google Maps it was like this is better and it wouldn't do stupid [TS]

01:46:16 ◼   ► things like getting me from my house to you know i 95 [TS]

01:46:20 ◼   ► Jamie reasonable directions [TS]

01:46:23 ◼   ► for the first few steps of a trip in my experience i mean again this is sort of [TS]

01:46:28 ◼   ► thing where everybody depending on where you live maybe having different results [TS]

01:46:31 ◼   ► but I think Apple maps is already better than Google Maps used to be some number [TS]

01:46:35 ◼   ► of years ago it's not as good as Google Maps is today but it's it's getting [TS]

01:46:40 ◼   ► there I'm like I don't think that it's why I think it's already good enough [TS]

01:46:43 ◼   ► that it's proved that they can do a large dataset problem to some degree of [TS]

01:46:47 ◼   ► quality AppStore search and I cry I but I think overall that's happening now [TS]

01:46:54 ◼   ► that is a great example [TS]

01:46:55 ◼   ► App Store search is a great example of something that's always been shit is [TS]

01:47:01 ◼   ► still shit and there's no evidence at all that they're getting better at it [TS]

01:47:05 ◼   ► that they've hired anybody you know to me the solution is so obvious just find [TS]

01:47:11 ◼   ► someone who's done a good work at like being a Google search and hire a team [TS]

01:47:15 ◼   ► event you know coach a team of engineers with experience it one of the successful [TS]

01:47:20 ◼   ► search engines I think the problem there is no in general the the App Store at [TS]

01:47:27 ◼   ► the store itself not the politics going on behind the pilot the store itself the [TS]

01:47:30 ◼   ► interface to the store the the infrastructure that runs the store that [TS]

01:47:35 ◼   ► the store apps themselves the categories in the store the the ability that the [TS]

01:47:39 ◼   ► store pages have like two different field descriptions like all the stuff [TS]

01:47:43 ◼   ► that stuff changes incredibly slowly a lot of it has never changed it like it [TS]

01:47:50 ◼   ► the App Store it seems like the Install button for Yosemite App Store still [TS]

01:47:56 ◼   ► looks like the old Mac OS and and and the boys if you think the iOS App Store [TS]

01:48:02 ◼   ► Abbas is little rough around the edges the Mac App Store [TS]

01:48:05 ◼   ► pretty rough that's that's been a frequent source of bugs it's it's just [TS]

01:48:10 ◼   ► it's just rough it the the iPhone one is the least bad the iPad one is kind of [TS]

01:48:17 ◼   ► pretty bad and the Mac one is really bad but anyway like all that stuff it seems [TS]

01:48:22 ◼   ► like I don't think this is an instance of like this team needs fifty more [TS]

01:48:28 ◼   ► engineers I think it's an instance of [TS]

01:48:32 ◼   ► think this is good enough and that's that's what frustrates me about the app [TS]

01:48:36 ◼   ► story and and its various quality issues and I'm not talking about like you know [TS]

01:48:41 ◼   ► the policies in this case I met you talk about the store like the actual app [TS]

01:48:44 ◼   ► store itself there are so many things they could do that would make it better [TS]

01:48:48 ◼   ► that they seem to think they don't need to do but overall though I I think [TS]

01:48:54 ◼   ► Apple's cloud services get a bum rap I think if you look at what what we do on [TS]

01:49:01 ◼   ► our Apple devices that rely on Apple's cloud services most of it just works [TS]

01:49:06 ◼   ► fine and it's again it's that error rate multiplier thing like the edges stick [TS]

01:49:12 ◼   ► out and then we all scream and say Apple's cloud services suck but the [TS]

01:49:15 ◼   ► reality is like most of the biggest [TS]

01:49:17 ◼   ► as far as I know what I would expect at least the biggest Apple cloud service is [TS]

01:49:23 ◼   ► the system that delivers push notifications and I message and that [TS]

01:49:27 ◼   ► works extremely well and if you think about the scale of its operating on [TS]

01:49:31 ◼   ► that's insane like the the the the amount of messages to get delivered in [TS]

01:49:35 ◼   ► like all my interactions with that serve as a developer like the the servers that [TS]

01:49:40 ◼   ► that take in push requests are just lightning-fast like it will take [TS]

01:49:45 ◼   ► requests as quickly as your network on stream them to it it it it it never [TS]

01:49:50 ◼   ► fails I've never had a connection error report of any of those tasks that run on [TS]

01:49:54 ◼   ► my servers like it was one that wasn't my fault my network it is ridiculous how [TS]

01:50:01 ◼   ► that system works from what I've heard cloud kit works I mean I haven't used it [TS]

01:50:05 ◼   ► yet but her cloud cover Salt Lake this this new infrastructure of their [TS]

01:50:09 ◼   ► building cloud on that the building of the photo library stuff on all the [TS]

01:50:13 ◼   ► indications so far it is little early but all indications so far say that [TS]

01:50:16 ◼   ► thats rock-solid so it does seem like most of their cloud services do work and [TS]

01:50:22 ◼   ► are solid but you did you definitely hear about the ones that don't yeah yeah [TS]

01:50:27 ◼   ► so I think the people who are holding that stuff up as examples of this sort [TS]

01:50:30 ◼   ► are wrong [TS]

01:50:32 ◼   ► me take a break and i wanna talk I guess the last time we talked about would be [TS]

01:50:35 ◼   ► the annual schedule maybe we can talk about that crazy new MacBook that mark [TS]

01:50:41 ◼   ► fuhrman says it's coming at severe no I don't wanna have just bought a you say [TS]

01:50:50 ◼   ► that now know my MacBook Pros is what I want I want is you still have your 11 I [TS]

01:50:56 ◼   ► do I'm actually recording this but all I literally all I use it for is to record [TS]

01:51:01 ◼   ► the show and to take a look at anything it's still running 10.9 so to take a [TS]

01:51:09 ◼   ► look at anything in the old you I that I want it what was it like when you put it [TS]

01:51:13 ◼   ► we do before you're so many right that the only two things I use this machine [TS]

01:51:16 ◼   ► does it look totally garrison outdated no yes it's been such a short time [TS]

01:51:21 ◼   ► looking at 10.9 is my god it's ridiculous it's not quite as ridiculous [TS]

01:51:27 ◼   ► as looking at pre iOS 7 iOS because they are they never quite blamed where they [TS]

01:51:34 ◼   ► do that at one point and left it there it's even worse when like so that it so [TS]

01:51:38 ◼   ► you now using right now I'm actual time right right so how bad is it when you [TS]

01:51:43 ◼   ► see a 9-12 by 11 inch as as the unwritten screen and you know I did what [TS]

01:51:51 ◼   ► I got a Mac Mini for some some artillery duties here it's it runs headless but we [TS]

01:51:55 ◼   ► have we have an older 27 inch LED whatever cinema display in the closet so [TS]

01:52:01 ◼   ► I took that out to set it up and so I had time I kept going back and forth [TS]

01:52:05 ◼   ► between my 27 inch iMac 27 is unable to play which at the time it came out was [TS]

01:52:10 ◼   ► an amazing this political sell it it's now one out the nobel I have the pre [TS]

01:52:14 ◼   ► anyway yeah like incredibly good looking bright nice colors great you know great [TS]

01:52:21 ◼   ► prices great contrast liked by all specs it is an amazing player when it came out [TS]

01:52:25 ◼   ► I remember I had some other like HP monitor and I looked at my God my crap [TS]

01:52:31 ◼   ► compared to this wonderful Apple monitor and the hell that they have written a [TS]

01:52:35 ◼   ► version of that same thing basically [TS]

01:52:37 ◼   ► going between the two as I was like the first time I saw the definable the [TS]

01:52:44 ◼   ► non-revenue 10 is this the wrong solution like what is what is wrong with [TS]

01:52:47 ◼   ► it looks terrible at what oh my god this was normal I looked at this all day like [TS]

01:52:52 ◼   ► it's sounds awful but it's it's it's such a difference but I would imagine [TS]

01:52:59 ◼   ► looking back at Mavericks once you're accustomed to yosemite it probably looks [TS]

01:53:04 ◼   ► quite ridiculous [TS]

01:53:06 ◼   ► the other thing that makes me think I might not like if assuming that the [TS]

01:53:09 ◼   ► government thing is true that well we'll talk about it but i dont im don't think [TS]

01:53:14 ◼   ► I would like the keyboard I'm concerned get too close together [TS]

01:53:18 ◼   ► yeah that's the thing I never lied to my living in chair and not that I don't [TS]

01:53:21 ◼   ► know but close enough but that doesn't have the key travel that the bigger [TS]

01:53:24 ◼   ► power books do and it's one of the now while he's mine didn't I got them I 11 [TS]

01:53:31 ◼   ► inch air is the last error that doesn't have keys that light up if you have a [TS]

01:53:36 ◼   ► 2010 yeah it was the only one that ever it was only like that the first one did [TS]

01:53:40 ◼   ► the 2008 old crappy one that did light up then they they 2010 was initially [TS]

01:53:44 ◼   ► didn't and they brought it back in 2011 now the keys when you press them don't [TS]

01:53:48 ◼   ► go as far down as on other power books and it's the nicest the single nicest [TS]

01:53:53 ◼   ► thing about the well the screens at this thing but that second assisting after [TS]

01:53:57 ◼   ► the Retina screen is that keyboard I just totally news to me i i thought they [TS]

01:54:01 ◼   ► all use the same part like all theall the current Apple keyboard was the exact [TS]

01:54:05 ◼   ► same in all of them you know and for obvious reasons the main thing I use a [TS]

01:54:08 ◼   ► PowerBook for instead of I still looks amazing I use a Mac before instead of an [TS]

01:54:13 ◼   ► iPad in any situation is typing right right nice keyboard so I'm worried about [TS]

01:54:18 ◼   ► that anyway we talked about her third to sponsor it's another longtime friend of [TS]

01:54:22 ◼   ► the show at our friends at Harry's carries sells high quality I would say [TS]

01:54:29 ◼   ► the highest quality men's shaving [TS]

01:54:31 ◼   ► stuff and they sell it at amazing prices [TS]

01:54:36 ◼   ► the basic just you've heard the back sorry but the basic gist is that the [TS]

01:54:39 ◼   ► founders of Harry's just ask themselves one day why the hell is it so hard and [TS]

01:54:44 ◼   ► so expensive to buy razors why when you gonna drugs trade you have to find like [TS]

01:54:50 ◼   ► a clerk who can unlock a glass cabinet get out i mean it you know why they lock [TS]

01:54:55 ◼   ► up its shoplifting I guess but it just makes buying the whole pain in the ass [TS]

01:55:00 ◼   ► and why is where the blade too expensive so they started a company to disrupt the [TS]

01:55:06 ◼   ► market and they take it super super seriously they bought their own razor [TS]

01:55:11 ◼   ► blade factory in Germany they found a razor blade factory making high-quality [TS]

01:55:16 ◼   ► blades they bought it they were making their own plates not just some kind of [TS]

01:55:20 ◼   ► white label they don't just scribble the name carries on a bunch of played by on [TS]

01:55:24 ◼   ► the market they buy high quality stuff they make high quality stuff the handles [TS]

01:55:30 ◼   ► are great everything about the products is great [TS]

01:55:33 ◼   ► snap the blade into the handle is a nice click comes in an icebox I've said [TS]

01:55:38 ◼   ► before I always feel terrible throwing away the Harry Fox because the paper by [TS]

01:55:43 ◼   ► like an apple box like nobody throws away their Apple boxes and but then I [TS]

01:55:48 ◼   ► think one down my my my my bathroom is filled with empty his pockets but trust [TS]

01:55:54 ◼   ► me that's how good the stuff is really great stuff they've got good shaving [TS]

01:55:59 ◼   ► cream after shave stuff that smells good they've slowly but surely since they've [TS]

01:56:04 ◼   ► started they've started expanding their range of stuff with it got a couple of [TS]

01:56:08 ◼   ► more options so if you check them out awhile ago it's worth looking at Harry's [TS]

01:56:11 ◼   ► dot com and see some of the new products that they have their relatively know but [TS]

01:56:17 ◼   ► the main thing is their starter kit is just 15 bucks that a razor three blades [TS]

01:56:22 ◼   ► in your choice of either shave cream or the foaming shave gel and when you buy [TS]

01:56:28 ◼   ► new blades this is where really kicks in it's about half the price of like the [TS]

01:56:33 ◼   ► top stuff from Gillette or sugar or whatever [TS]

01:56:36 ◼   ► just go to Amazon the Amazon and like price compare like what a replacement [TS]

01:56:40 ◼   ► set of five blades from Gillette costs compared to hair carries and it's [TS]

01:56:44 ◼   ► literally about you know give or take fifty percent [TS]

01:56:48 ◼   ► you know it's a factor of two acts and you have the convenience readers were [TS]

01:56:53 ◼   ► online you don't have to go into the store anything like that just shows up [TS]

01:56:56 ◼   ► at your house when you need them [TS]

01:56:58 ◼   ► really can't say it's just a great experience great product and you know [TS]

01:57:04 ◼   ► everybody has to shave something so he didn't hear ya so where do you go to [TS]

01:57:10 ◼   ► find out more go to Harry's dot com 8 Arry s.com and use the code talk show [TS]

01:57:18 ◼   ► know that just talk show and I forget what their deal is but you'll save some [TS]

01:57:22 ◼   ► bucks five months off your first order that's it five bucks off your first [TS]

01:57:27 ◼   ► order so my thanks to Harry's great product [TS]

01:57:31 ◼   ► talk shows the code or save five bucks so I guess what you get the kids for [TS]

01:57:35 ◼   ► just 10 bucks think so that's crazy [TS]

01:57:39 ◼   ► great product can't believe that you buy it for him for 15 bucks you just can't [TS]

01:57:43 ◼   ► believe that 15 bucks great company so the annual schedule that's gonna go to [TS]

01:57:56 ◼   ► delete some podcasts you but i wanna talk about the annual schedule which i [TS]

01:58:03 ◼   ► think is for Yosemite in iOS which have stuck to for a couple of years and as a [TS]

01:58:08 ◼   ► source for this trend that we're seeing and I think part of this too is sort of [TS]

01:58:13 ◼   ► from within Apple is sort of a they can't winds in the area because in the [TS]

01:58:19 ◼   ► early years of the iPhone 2007 2008 the Mac they admitted even had a press [TS]

01:58:25 ◼   ► release the London had to publicly say we pulled engineers from Pakistan [TS]

01:58:30 ◼   ► to help get the news you know I was 2.0 out the door i that was less yes we're [TS]

01:58:35 ◼   ► delaying the Mac OS till October I think it was to come out at WWDC in June right [TS]

01:58:41 ◼   ► now is not coming out to October you know Steve Jobs even has his name on you [TS]

01:58:46 ◼   ► know you know that that you know that that hurt them to have to say something [TS]

01:58:50 ◼   ► like that nothing bad happened as a result of that no but there might even [TS]

01:58:57 ◼   ► saying something better for it I'm just sayin know that I feel like within Apple [TS]

01:59:01 ◼   ► they're like proud of the fact that they've gotten to the point where they [TS]

01:59:05 ◼   ► can do keep both OS's in state of constant development you know well I [TS]

01:59:14 ◼   ► don't think either yosemite or aid is so bad that I wish I hadn't upgraded no [TS]

01:59:22 ◼   ► they're not and that's that's the problem he gets it maybe maybe this is [TS]

01:59:26 ◼   ► part of the problem like they're not bad enough that like alarm bells are going [TS]

01:59:30 ◼   ► off right but the rate of tiny paper cuts seems to be increasing yeah and I [TS]

01:59:37 ◼   ► don't like is it is it is you know if they're going to do that is this the end [TS]

01:59:41 ◼   ► is this the way it has to be you know is there no way to either they slow down [TS]

01:59:46 ◼   ► one or the other operating systems or this is what we're gonna get I gotta [TS]

01:59:50 ◼   ► know well I I don't think a slowing down would necessarily be that bad i mean you [TS]

01:59:56 ◼   ► know I'm right now we're going through a future a few big transitions in the OS's [TS]

02:00:01 ◼   ► and we will be going for them over the last couple of releases where you know [TS]

02:00:04 ◼   ► iowa 7 was the massive redesign in addition to a whole buncha new [TS]

02:00:08 ◼   ► frameworks under the hood I ate at the whole extension system which is a pretty [TS]

02:00:14 ◼   ► substantial thing and the whole the whole idea of having these cross in turn [TS]

02:00:19 ◼   ► in application not just extensions in particular extensions right one version [TS]

02:00:24 ◼   ► of [TS]

02:00:24 ◼   ► but the way that so much of what how we interact with the system is going [TS]

02:00:28 ◼   ► through these species species stuff and so instead of having things that run in [TS]

02:00:36 ◼   ► Europe and if they go bad crash out there outside Europe in a sandbox and [TS]

02:00:41 ◼   ► it's it's not just one thing like sharing extensions it's a whole bunch of [TS]

02:00:46 ◼   ► things it's a big transition and so we're going through transitions like [TS]

02:00:50 ◼   ► that you know they so maybe the last few releases have just been bigger than than [TS]

02:00:56 ◼   ► their leases will usually be you know maybe this problem will will settle down [TS]

02:01:00 ◼   ► in the next couple of releases just by nature of they've now they've been there [TS]

02:01:05 ◼   ► now on the other side of these giant transitions but unlike you know when you [TS]

02:01:10 ◼   ► call something a stable release some part of it is just like a marketing [TS]

02:01:14 ◼   ► value some part of it is like you know we're going to declare this explains 0 [TS]

02:01:17 ◼   ► and that's reason number doesn't mean anything but you could always choose to [TS]

02:01:23 ◼   ► just put less in each one and and still kinda have the best of both worlds but [TS]

02:01:28 ◼   ► some part of it also is a good guy was simply the way that the the whole [TS]

02:01:32 ◼   ► development pace of like how how the year is spent half the time between [TS]

02:01:37 ◼   ► releases a spent between like you know watching fixing the bugs then you know [TS]

02:01:42 ◼   ► kind of quiet period research developing the next day off and then and then you [TS]

02:01:45 ◼   ► know betta for the next thing and then launch the next thing that will still be [TS]

02:01:50 ◼   ► a problem that will still be this compressed version even if you guys do [TS]

02:01:54 ◼   ► less in each person I still the only better than we have now doing a lot in [TS]

02:01:58 ◼   ► each version and release them every year I also you know it's important to point [TS]

02:02:02 ◼   ► out for the marketing value of this that this is a pretty young thing it isn't [TS]

02:02:07 ◼   ► young for iPhones necessarily you know most iPhones have caused have coincided [TS]

02:02:13 ◼   ► with new iOS releases or at least been fairly close to them but they don't have [TS]

02:02:20 ◼   ► to be no I think there's always been I don't think there's ever been an iPhone [TS]

02:02:23 ◼   ► that hasn't coincided with a new [TS]

02:02:25 ◼   ► unless it's just that I couldn't think of a continued the earlier ones know [TS]

02:02:29 ◼   ► there's never been land they've never been one that can run the old OS and [TS]

02:02:34 ◼   ► some of them like in the iOS three hours for era were not so heavily new features [TS]

02:02:40 ◼   ► and you know was little bit more you know just expanding the foundation but [TS]

02:02:46 ◼   ► it was always a new point out to coincide with the new phone right but [TS]

02:02:51 ◼   ► then sometimes they haven't been that way like iPads like the affairs of the [TS]

02:02:55 ◼   ► first iPad with iOS 3.2 it was a special build a special track for the iPad right [TS]

02:03:01 ◼   ► that wasn't unified until iOS 4.2 or 4.1 it was it was even I was for the first [TS]

02:03:07 ◼   ► time the iPhone wasn't even running the iPad and then for her 14 points to unify [TS]

02:03:11 ◼   ► them so they have released heart is that much of the recent high-profile Harbor [TS]

02:03:17 ◼   ► has launched with newest versions but not all of it has and when it hasnt [TS]

02:03:22 ◼   ► nothing bad happened like they were there was no real downside to the iPad [TS]

02:03:28 ◼   ► shipping with 3.2 instead of waiting for 4 p.m. to be ready to ship the hardware [TS]

02:03:32 ◼   ► products there was also no major downside to the iPad not even getting [TS]

02:03:37 ◼   ► four Pinocchios it wasn't ready yet [TS]

02:03:39 ◼   ► like you know a few people but it wasn't it wasn't a huge deal and it didn't hurt [TS]

02:03:45 ◼   ► the sales of the iPad really it didn't hurt the iPhone it didn't hurt I was for [TS]

02:03:48 ◼   ► like it just didn't it wasn't a big deal right famously the iPad in particular [TS]

02:03:52 ◼   ► add more explosive sales in those early years than it has now you know the [TS]

02:03:59 ◼   ► reasons but still so you know max are released all the time and if if if a new [TS]

02:04:06 ◼   ► version of Mac OS 10 is going to be due soon they'll tell usually hold it seemed [TS]

02:04:11 ◼   ► like an iMac will usually hold it for that for that same event then they'll [TS]

02:04:16 ◼   ► ship together but you know a Mac could be released next month and it'll run the [TS]

02:04:21 ◼   ► OS that's from four months ago over five months ago never and doesn't matter [TS]

02:04:25 ◼   ► nothing nothing bad happens no one says all Apple should have listened to us [TS]

02:04:28 ◼   ► with these new MacBook Airs like no doesn't matter at all [TS]

02:04:31 ◼   ► doesn't even come up so I question the value of having this dislike lockstep of [TS]

02:04:38 ◼   ► of major OS is tied to major hard early as i think is mostly self-imposed I [TS]

02:04:43 ◼   ► think they do it that way because they like to do it that way or they think [TS]

02:04:46 ◼   ► they should do it that way but when it hasn't gone that way I think the market [TS]

02:04:51 ◼   ► has spoken loud and clear that it doesn't really matter [TS]

02:04:54 ◼   ► yeah I kind of agree with that I do you know and I don't think that it's a [TS]

02:04:57 ◼   ► superficial is that they want to do it so that they have more to show in the [TS]

02:05:02 ◼   ► keynote but you know I think there's something loosely along those lines over [TS]

02:05:08 ◼   ► they they you know it's easier easier to market when there's more new features [TS]

02:05:13 ◼   ► right and that's what I mean when I say that marketing is becoming to higher [TS]

02:05:20 ◼   ► priority it's it's not that like his and that no one of things but I never said [TS]

02:05:25 ◼   ► the marketing department because I what I didn't want to say is like Phil [TS]

02:05:30 ◼   ► Schiller is personally controlling apple and killing the battery is goals I guess [TS]

02:05:34 ◼   ► that's not what that's not what I meant I mean that the the idea of marketing [TS]

02:05:38 ◼   ► the benefits of this annual schedule and of locked up in them with the hardware [TS]

02:05:44 ◼   ► that is too high priority that is taking priority seemingly over software quality [TS]

02:05:49 ◼   ► and that is what I have a problem with and that and that is not a departmental [TS]

02:05:53 ◼   ► thing as far as I know you know I don't I don't think there is presently taking [TS]

02:05:58 ◼   ► over the company in having these bad sorry I seriously doubt that I think [TS]

02:06:02 ◼   ► it's like the company has decided as a whole at the high level like this [TS]

02:06:07 ◼   ► schedule is is right for the company this is what we're going to do we're [TS]

02:06:11 ◼   ► going to we're going to have these anywhere leases were going to you know [TS]

02:06:15 ◼   ► tidy things lockstep so that hardware releases with software yeah and I've [TS]

02:06:18 ◼   ► always said you know I think you see your point is well put and I i've always [TS]

02:06:23 ◼   ► said that [TS]