00:00:00 ◼ ► have at least three episodes in a row where skype has totally crapped out at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► some point so that sounds like scape all rights overrides this will start the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► shop so serenity Caldwell first time on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/9">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► welcome thank you I'm excited to be here busy times yes yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/13">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► flying all over the place looking at fancy technology going to I was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/18">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► at my schedule and I'm like I'm going to be in a different country and/or state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/24">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► for the next like five weekends in a row half of my job and have her like roller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/28">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► derby randomness like it's too much too much traveling I don't even have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/33">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► apple watching keep track of it yet it's bad when you start like when you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/37">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► stretches like that and you start to get to know like certainty si ya yup I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/41">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► here again remember my name but you know me and they're just like exactly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/49">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► like okay well it's like with Boston I fly virgin pretty much anywhere and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/54">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► like there's only there's just one tiny little security terminal for Boston's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/58">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► virgin area like we have our own private security terminal which is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/64">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► awesome because it's like i right quick in-and-out no problems but it also means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/67">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► that yeah there are like three TSA people total so so yeah it's like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/72">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► not by name basis but you get pretty familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► airports are so weird we have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/80">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► aid terminals ABCDE in a few in Philly but there's also like I think it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/83">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► a wand or something in between like A&B there's like this little tiny thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/89">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► it's like certain USAir flight go out there and when you go up it is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/95">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► it's like that it's like literally like the security thing is like three TSA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/100">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► people and the funny thing is is that they still divided between TSA pre and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/104">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► not briefed and there is it there's only three people there that makes no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/109">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► difference but yet somehow they put the they put the lines and people need their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/115">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► status to have the Virgin there's no there's the silver and gold elevate line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/118">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► which I think I've used maybe once in my life because the line is too long but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/123">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► otherwise yeah it's like two people it's negligible so you out in california last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/127">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► week I wanna watch song and pony show like that show what's coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/133">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► alright so I got Toronto this weekend for roller derby tournament then Ireland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/142">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► going over to which is going to be fun it's my first time in Dublin and just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/147">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► ireland and general other than like flying through I'm psyched for that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/152">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► certainly crying here because I know can we can be like Skype you and have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/156">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► still do your dinner where we're drivin oh yeah yeah that's something that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/161">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► bummer but yes as that and then I think I have a 11 soul weekend where I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/170">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► Massachusetts and then I'm out in california for the Yosemite conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/177">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► and also to see my parents and then potentially going to organ for another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/181">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► roller derby thing so it's like oh wait it's Berg then then yosemite then a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/186">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► of stuff but I knew somebody is for the Google com yeah yeah I'm really looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/195">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► forward to that day was pitching in a while back and I'm like this sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/202">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► amazing and it's like why or why not do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► a conference about technology in Yosemite like that if if Apple is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/209">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► to go to the trouble of naming its OS updates after fancy California locations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/214">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► why not hold a conference there it's gorgeous makes me cry to cause that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/220">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► also with also something I wanted to go to something I was planning to go to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/224">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► also within the still can't fly and wreckage on an Amtrak blogging adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/228">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► I looked into that I looked into that and Amtrak across the country is clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/234">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► better to just drive it's a long experience my buddy rich Stevens who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/242">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► does like a webcomic he's to do that I think the last two years that he went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/247">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► San Diego comic-con he did that from Western Mass and he really liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/251">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► because he's like it's basically you know I don't have to go anywhere and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/255">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► wi-fi the entire time and I don't have to worry about driving and I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/259">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► to worry about like staying in motels cause I just have this like random bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/262">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► and then I get to go eat in big cities where they have like four hour layovers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/266">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► so it but I but I feel like you kind of have to you need to be in a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/270">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► mindset to be like yeah I mean I'm gonna basically live on a plane or train for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/274">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► nine days and be surrounded by other people I think the way to go is the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/278">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► john madden used to travel around the country remember this is John Madden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/284">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► football announcer had a terrible fear of flying or just hate it just hated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/288">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► hated fly and so he had a big bus he just had a bus and had a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/293">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► could use the tops of course so he just had like crew and they just he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/301">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► drove his bus everywhere you know like maybe this Sunday's game is in New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/306">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► next Sunday's in Dallas and the next ones in San Francisco they do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/310">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► after the game is just get the bus driver there man I'm sure it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/313">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► yeah hot tub in the back and like to see that's that sounds kind of amazing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/320">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► feel like you need it you need a certain about a lifestyle and money for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/325">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► $10,000 Apple watches right I short-term investment for a 60 but now that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/330">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► be like a good feature that maybe you could look into that I get temporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► like Rockstar tour exactly bus John Gruber around the country but you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/342">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► you could you repeat reappear on Kickstarter this get me to yosemite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/348">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► no you don't want to go on a boat boats are scary you know it's funny because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/352">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► looked into it I forgot to mention this on the show before but we at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/360">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► looked into you know seem to predict as I mean I've got my kids and I want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/363">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► away for weeks but it even then it was hard because will is too close to winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/369">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► so like there aren't any any real cross cross Atlantic wages there are only they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/374">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► only go to great britain it's funny because when you're flying if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/381">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► flying to Ireland it's like if your itinerary is like Boston to London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/387">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► what's the big one in London Heathrow and then Heathrow to Dublin you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/395">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► think twice about it you know you know that you did good chance you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/400">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► going to get a direct flight you don't think twice about the fact but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/403">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► can't get on a plane the fact that Ireland and England are not the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/406">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► island it makes all the difference in it would've been terrible terrible but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/411">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► like like like a Caribbean cruise and it's a you lay out on the deck and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/416">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► great you take you know like the Queen Elizabeth to England in late March you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/421">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► don't know you had in your cabin and you pray that you don't have a nice perks so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/426">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► now it's probably will get you like a roving eye patch robots that just kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/433">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► glad around and have like pop into the rooms just float float your Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/440">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► little that's good or contact like a safe way to segue yeah yeah I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/448">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► there's an official name for it actually it's funny one of my former macworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/454">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► co-workers Roman loyal reviewed one of these things for Macworld and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/458">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► it's something like two months after he reviewed it he liked accidentally ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/463">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► up on the Colbert show because they used car clip of like the crazy iPad segue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/468">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► robot so now he's forever like he's infamously known as Lake The Colbert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/473">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► iPad robot guy like you recognize that cracks me up so let's revisit last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/478">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► as I feel like everybody's still it's funny I think now a week later people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/491">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► are more upset about the MacBook part of the announcement then watch yeah I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/496">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► like you know I was kind of expecting a lot of hoopla over the ten thousand to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/501">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► $17,000 gold watch and instead it's everybody throwing their hands up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/505">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► upper and one port on a Macbook how could you and I'm like do you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/510">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► in 2008 when when they pulled a computer out of a manila envelope and it only had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/516">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► two USB ports and had no food no cd drive and everybody you know like I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/523">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► like this is the exact same argument just for five years later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► yeah I remember that event I can remember it was WWDC or macworld maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/531">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► it was macworld because I remember I wasn't working in the tech industry at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/537">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► the time but I seem to remember pictures of like the MacBook Air is hanging on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► strings yeah yeah I remember before the keynote the banners said there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/545">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► something in the air and for some reason it's like the rumors the 48 hours you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/552">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► know there's like that that like once certain signs start going up at Yerba [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/559">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► Buena or in this case it was nice County West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/564">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► then the rumors reached a fever pitch because people start trying to read into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/568">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► what it is that Apple is shown whereas anybody with any common sense would know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/572">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► that whatever they're showing you that's not covered up is is not going to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/576">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► it away I know and if anything they're outright teasing you because they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/581">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► to death right and I remember that the rumored as I remember this is usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/587">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► the years together to me but I remember this very distinctly was that the rumor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/591">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► du jour was that there was the name of apples in the house / killer I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/595">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► that and that it would be cold air was gonna be an every member saying I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/604">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► think so because if it was they wouldn't put the name of another banner and be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/609">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► really think they mean it that they did they'd it's not just fighting but did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/613">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► they don't they don't want a proprietary binary blob thing on the web like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/617">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► really mean that they think html5 is the way forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/622">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► I really think this is wrong and then people were upset when they ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/626">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► being a notebook paper like what happened to the flash propeller and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/632">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► was like they never said they were going to do a flash killer know you you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/636">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► surprised as I was promised to flash killer who were promised Nothing play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/642">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► yeah but the parallels to today to that device the first MacBook Air I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/650">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► almost exact it other than the fact that they didn't pull it out of a minimal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/658">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► envelope it's pretty much the exact same scenario oh absolutely I mean it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/662">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► have something that was like the 2000 MacBook Air I was working at an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/667">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► store at the time and I mean it was underpowered too expensive and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/671">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► really designed for not really designed for the general public at that point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/677">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► everybody just kind of pooh-poohed it were like this you know this computer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/683">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► ridiculous how do they expect us to use it it's thin and that's cool but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/687">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► impractical blah blah blah blah blah and now you know couple years later the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/691">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► entire laptop line is based off of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► innovations and the creations that originated from that 2008 MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/700">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► here's where my memory gets fuzzy I know that the base model still had a spinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/705">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► yes this was there an SSD option I believe there was an SSD option but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/710">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► was expensive like 64 mega are 64 gigs yeah maybe one hundred and twenty I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/716">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► can't remember now I'm like I sold I think four of these in the in the lake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/722">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► two years I was working at the store and Gretchen I wasn't on the floor a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/727">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► lot selling things like I was taught classes most of the time but even so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/731">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► like the only time you got to get a macbook air out from like the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/736">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► house storage was when like somebody in a fancy suit came into his third laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/741">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► for travel but he was definitely a high-end business demands like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/747">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► sitting on a plane for a long period of time and i want to work on like a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/751">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► late computer sort of thing was expensive years it is Jackie Chang had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/755">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► an article on it for ours back in February 2008 I'm copying this URL right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/762">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► now the famous last words on the show is I say it's gonna be in the show not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/769">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► forget to put in China but I've got it might be beatified right now it cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/772">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► 1300 acts and it was 64 oh my god so the high-end air in early 2008 was alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/779">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► so the regular one MacBook Air with a hard drive one point six gigahertz Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/791">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► Core 2 Duo both the money at two gigs of ram the other being hurt just had an 80 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/797">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► gig hard drive an 80 gig for it for 220 rpm hard drive and then the 64 gigabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/805">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► solid state drive was an extra 30 so in other words the cost of the entire new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/811">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► MacBook exactly the same price for an entirely new MacBook cost to upgrade to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/818">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► the SSD so I guess it was a $3,100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/826">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► I wanna say it was seventeen or eighteen hundred dollars I'm trying to put Dallas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/832">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► course I'm looking at an old Mac overview of course we don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/839">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► price anywhere along with these people that's it from now on I'm just making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/845">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► know it's a but it was pretty yes $17.99 was the base configuration so is $3100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/853">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► to get an SSD and truth be told you really weren't getting the MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/860">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► experience without an SST now and it's clear they came out and the reason they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/867">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► had the one with the hard drive was because I says these were so insanely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/872">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► expensive 2008 2008 that they really did not want at the base model be $3,100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/875">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► it's just the optics would just be bad but that really was the one to get to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/880">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► get the experience like that is clearly where they were going and you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/886">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► think it was within a year they dropped the hard drives oh yeah it was when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/891">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► remember the 2010 MacBook Airs and I was the first MacBook Air I own when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/895">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► came out with the 11 inch and the 13 inch and all of a sudden not only were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/901">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► the MacBook Airs affordable but they were in super tiny you know court [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/905">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► PowerBook duo style builds and I was like alright I can I can't deal with two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/909">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► USB ports if it you know it becomes an 11 inch size sure I remember those will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/915">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► Shipley I think he had the first air I think you need but he had the SSD one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/921">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► and he was doing in a software development which sounds crazy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/925">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► like you said it was overall and grand scheme of things and underpowered device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/928">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► but I remember him right and it wasn't the first gentleman he had a very early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/932">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► in the very early days when they were relatively expensive relatively slow in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/937">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► terms of CPU performance and he raved about it because the SSD was so great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/941">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► when you're compiling some code you're touching lots and lot hundreds of little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/947">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► files very quickly and that's where an SSD blows a spinning hard drive away is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/952">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► touching lots of lots of little files in right one after another after another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/957">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► and so for compiling stuff and Xcode he's do you remember about it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/962">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► fantastic machine I cannot wait for the future when everything is SSD so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/966">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► were definitely people who loved it and it was there but it's you know whose it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/971">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► oh yeah do you remember the first computer you had that hasn't had an SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► in it cause I know for me it was it was life changing it was 15 inch MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/980">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► now maybe it wasn't a MacBook Pro I mean I was gonna say powerbook that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/989">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► ship with an SSD I bought it it's actually the last time i upgraded a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/998">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► after about two but I bought like an OWC upgrade package and it was like getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► a new machine I gotta did it like two years after I bought it and it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► did you know I don't know what it cost me $800 and it felt like I just got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► new $2,000 MacBook Pro it was crazy like I actually I did the same thing after I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► bought my my 2010 MacBook Air and I i you know going from I had a 15 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► MacBook Pro that was running on a spinning desk and once I got the air was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► it was like night and day where it's like the pro the pro despite being I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► think three or four times as powerful as the air felt like it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► running and molasses and I was just like us through this computer I'm just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► use the air for full time you know doing everything and when I started doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► video development and I was like all right you know what maybe I mean to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► consider can type in the Pro and then when I did exactly how you describe its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► like it it's turned the machine upside down into a brand new device like it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► doesn't it doesn't feel like you're working on a 23 year old computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► anymore despite the fact that the internals might be you know severely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► outdated and it's like you know i i probably everybody listening is I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► wonder what percentage of people are on SSDs now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► yeah well I think well most of the laptops now have a sixty standard but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► it's the IMAX that are still a little tricky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► we were talking about this before the show where my my iMac is fitting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► right now cuz I think the hard drive is slowly dying and it's it's a normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► spinning spinning splatter and I didn't even realize that when I when I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► computer I thought that it would it came with an SSD standard of course I had my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► company you know the company ordered it for me and i was just kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► everything comes with SSDs now it's it's 29 2012 2013 like that's that's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► question and then at some point I'm like man this iMac is really slow compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► my you know my tiny little laptop and I finally realized that has a hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► in it I feel like people who have the desktop computers may not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► standard configuration for an iMac is I believe a big hard drive and like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1135">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► terabyte hard drive is really tempting but you don't care about it I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► looking at the standard config for every iMac is a hard drive except the retina 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► k iMac which still is a fusion drive which is they you know that crazy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► looks like one volume but it's an SSD hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► combined right which is a really good fascinating technology and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► quality seems you know couple of years and it seems like it works really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► oh yeah there so I know a couple people on the PC building industry unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► that's that's been really popular for a while putting in an SSD and a big hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► drive but with the PC market it was put the boot drive on the SSD and then all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► the other files on the hard drive in the fusion drive as far as I understand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► it all happens under the hood and it and it's seamless so not only is the boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► drive on the SSD but any files that you're currently working on get pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► magically to the SSD in theoretical you shouldn't notice it so you're never you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► never really should be drawing any files actively off of the hard drive it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► where you know inactive files live kinda like old-school memory I like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► that's really cool that's a that's a great piece of technology but it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► doesn't save you from the lack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► liability now and had performance stuff eventually you know depending on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► you do it the performance eventually but eventually you suffer in the end you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► the performance of the spinning hard disk depending on what you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► yeah exactly all hard drives by importing a bunch of files photos into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► iPhoto exporting them out or something like that anything like that where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► you're looking at you know you're going to look at a gig or two of data it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► know you can't make you know can put fifty pounds and it can only hold so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► much before it has 22 looked at heavyweight UFC heavyweight casino has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► speed of one but I yeah right to all the all the notebooks now our SSD I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► guess you can still get like if you keep out and get the cheap MacBook Pros they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► still come with hard disks the right no one's all our SSD and the hairs are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► SST get so I haven't actually looked at the store configuration since last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► event does the does the 13 inch non retina MacBook Pro still exists that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► Stella configuration or did the the new MacBook it still does their MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► 13 inch 2.5 gigahertz only $10.99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► but it's a 500 gigabyte 5400 rpm hard drive for gigs RAM I'm honestly I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► thats to me as sort of a baffling configuration I can't see why anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► would buy that if your price is 1099 and you're really kind of price sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► and you don't want that $1300 retina one I really can't see why you don't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1316">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► yeah I suspect that configuration must solely exist for education maybe with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► the idea of like education folks who want to do video editing or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► like that but even then like the heirs are pretty good for video editing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► core i7 that they they have available like I I routinely used by 11 inch for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► lot of video video intensive stuff that I'm probably not but it's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► like its functional it's not you know I don't know my son and I went into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► Apple Store just the other day because I think we had he had a weird issue with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► his his MacBook Pro and we couldn't fix it home and ended up the genius just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► needed to remember the SMC reset the memory controller and the old way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► it in the old days when you take the battery out or if it was a desktop you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► unplug it doesn't work so well with no there's a keyboard shortcut you hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► down SHIFT option control I think on the left side of the keyboard shift option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► control not command and restart and then the if you have it plugged in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► that it did the SMC reset because of the color will change on the MagSafe from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► green our insurance but it didn't solve the problem is just wouldn't turn on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► screen wouldn't turn on so I thought it was bad news like gods you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► gonna need to be replaced under warranty it's relatively new but ended up he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► need to take it back in their secret lab take the battery just started right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► there anyway you know all too well with that but while we were there I was I we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► gotta try out this new force touch trackpad family went over to the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► with the 13 inch MacBook Pros in the first one we went to the low and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► that doesn't have the new trackpad and doesn't even have a Retina screen and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► are both hosts are so proud of him he was grossed out by the the non Retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► screen yeah by this it really is starkly different once you get used to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► retina I remember having a conversation I wanna say the year before we got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► iPhone 4 I would say we're talking with a friend of mine and he's like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► don't understand why Apple just doesn't do retina screens like they did we call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► them right now that but I don't understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► high DPI screens because they have the technology and text looks terrible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► as a designer I wanna see things clearly and that's the next generation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► technology in like two weeks after we have this conversation the new iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► comes out and he was like a kid at Christmas he was just like oh my god I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► can't wait until I have this in my iMac it's it's it really is you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► dark it's it's one of the few things that I'm sorely missing on my macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► air right now and I don't know if the new MacBook is currently enough for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1495">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► that I wouldn't swap over but it's definitely tempting yeah just for us but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► for such oh my god who were forced touch me take a break down to the first month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► let's do our good friends at Squarespace you know Squarespace that's where you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► if you haven't you need to make a website go to Squarespace they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1516">TS</a>]
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00:25:24 ◼ ► build any type of website with Squarespace you want to build an online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► store you can build an online store they are you have that as a component they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► already handle all the Commerce they handle the credit card processing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► the security making sure everything goes through SSL instead of unencrypted over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► everything like that is just built into everybody's Squarespace account of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► templates are responsive everything looks great from foreign phone to a 27 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1547">TS</a>]
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00:28:16 ◼ ► conflicted only if only because they're calling they're calling this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► gestures first touch and they're calling the trackpad forced touch and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► like the same problem with you know having collection of the watch just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► called the watch it's hard to describe the gesture and also inadvertently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► the trackpad itself you know like we gotta figure out specific language but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► think that's just that's that's a journalist word problem on its a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► name overall I don't think right so as a verb it means to press a finger hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► either on your watch for on this new trackpad to engage whatever it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► forts touch doesn't your current context and the trackpad itself is called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► force touch trackpad yeah I i IIIi I bring this up because her phone at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► bird had an article that it you know great track pad except for the lousy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1753">TS</a>]
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00:29:18 ◼ ► number one most people have no idea what this really gonna advertised I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► think that the name forced touch trackpad it's just a way to distinguish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► it and then like you know as the time goes on if you ever got 13 inch MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► Pro you can say is that the one with the force touch track pattern it just as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► way to clarify whether it can do it or not it's like retina display or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► anything else that Apple's use descriptive names for ya IIC really no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► problem with it and it's honestly it's a good descriptor what and how would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► rather described like the tactic engine trackpad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► the haptic trackpad like then you start only other thing I've heard that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► impossible would be to call the tactic trackpad bad I I bet it's close enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► that it was probably like on the finalist list you know like a white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► board until shelters office and that says like forced touch trackpad tactic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► track bad engine trackpad trackpad ya know there's like a circle around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► exactly with stars I i like it better than I i used i think both descriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► when I was writing about it in our hands on and i i like forced touch trackpad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► it as a monitor or just forced touch technology in general is especially you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► know we've seen on the watch now we were seeing it on a track pad that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► essentially the size of an iPhone 6 screen I don't think it's unlikely that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► in the next year or so and as a result like you'd you're gonna need a good way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► versus you know you got a Retina Display with with force touch multi-touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► technology that's a lot of touches but you know what I mean right yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► complaint against it and I i'm juveniles anybody I think but the complaint is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► that it's you know like heart heart you know it sounds like rape forced attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► and I kind of feel like you can't do anything touch can be made into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► type of joke like multi-touch clearly can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► reminds me of the complaints that iPad iPad yeah sounded like you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► feminine hygiene product and I'm like really you know I remember not being in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► love with iPad when they first said it but I didn't think well this is awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► it's not the worst name in the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► there are plenty of more terrible names that I'm sure we would be much more in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► arms about shed Apple chosen to use those instead of their performance when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► we were when we were playing the what are they going to call their tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► guessing game I didn't guess iPad but my own but it was one of the ones that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► tossed out and my only brush aside of iPad was it sounds and looks too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► like iPod so they're not gonna do that and they just went ahead and did it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► like I spent two years on this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/1931">TS</a>]
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00:33:33 ◼ ► try it out until until this week with with the machine completely off I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2013">TS</a>]
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00:33:57 ◼ ► finger that make it feel like a click even though my finger is moving sideways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► but in my brain it feels like I am pressing down and the trackpad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► physically depressing and that's even more so I don't know if they they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► like different apps on the App at the Apple store that you were playing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► but like I got to play with it in a couple of different things including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2054">TS</a>]
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00:34:22 ◼ ► being slowly disassembled into mush thing because when you're in when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► in quick time with force touch and you press the fast forward button as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► like put a little bit more pressure on the trackpad it speeds up to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► where it like it speeds up like 60 times but you can slowly release that pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► while your finger is still down and the speed starts to slow down again so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► feels almost like a gas pedal worth over with a trackpad we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► like that I know it's such as it's such a different experience that I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► like a mean that's it that's a technology like that's old school right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► cars have had that kind of control for years but being able to do that on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► flat glass surface was was really kind of mind-boggling we you know time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► finding weed crazy now which in turn makes me wonder about like that gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2112">TS</a>]
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00:35:27 ◼ ► pressure-sensitive driving and then they show a picture of the the preview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► signature because that's the that's the only thing that Apple has done its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► default apps that can accurately show pressure-sensitive drawing but as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► as they started talking about that and I like I quit the Apple reps pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► in-depth sleeping like so pressure sensitivity how many levels do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► what are we talking about here and there are of course very very charmingly vague [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► as always but I was able to get out is like there's a there's a fair amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► ramp built into the built into the underlying software technology for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► starch which means and and the fact that it's available as an SDK for developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► to look into it basically means that like developers can set sort of quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► points and pressure points at any point like along this curve this this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► pressure sensitivity curve so in theory you could you could have any number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► pressure points or any number of you know multiple clicks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► I just think about like going back two games for a second I think about playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► WoW in college and having to go get like a six button mouse to map all of my key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► come through and I'm like with a force touch trackpad in theory you could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► like a different level of pressure touch for each key combo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► each like mouse combo that you'd normally I'd like an up and down but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► like that that is that is really really nifty to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► yeah and I think about like how when you get really into like the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► software you specialize in like if you're an audio editor or a video editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► and you just live and breathe and you know you're editing software and once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► thats forced touched enabled for like scrubbing you know it's clearly you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► that already building the quick time so it's clearly you know that's the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► things are going but you'll be able you know and you do it 40 50 60 hours a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► you'll be able to play that scrub controller like playing a musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► instrument you know in terms of going faster and slower with your touch yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► mean did you see the there is an iMovie update couple days ago came out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► support for force touch track pads and offer it came with two different things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► one of which i think is describing feature and the other was there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► little bit now when you kind of scroll through a clip you get a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► haptic feedback when you come to the end of a clipper you bump at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► clip so I mean I'm like I didn't even think about that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► texture as well as physical clicking yeah it really brings back analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► sensibility yeah I mean you remember the knobs have USB dobbs I wanna say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2293">TS</a>]
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00:38:33 ◼ ► absolutely rely on those knobs early this is as close as I'm gonna get to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2313">TS</a>]
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00:38:41 ◼ ► potentially heavy track pad that can do all of that what does this madness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► that's great I never even thought about that but that's just like it's like tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► as you get between clicks and then you can view it again like you go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► like the analog hero when you people you know like to edit film you'd literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► and at thats place there'd be a physical you know it it's pretty much just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► yeah yeah it's funny to me because you think on that on the software side Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► has been working harder and harder to kind of take the ski a morphism out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► the design but I feel like it in a large way they're kind of thing that into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► hardware so it's like we don't necessarily need our video clips to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► like analog video clips anymore but we're gonna give you more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► controls on the physical side that make it feel like you're dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► tangible materials that make it feel like you're actually interacting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► something besides class that's why I know it feels like that you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► idea of the iPad and the iPhone as blank slate was step one where it's like ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► you can load anything on it now and we're gonna let you touch anything on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► when I scared you did it like I'm even imagine in like in the future if it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► more refined make as use like if you're editing text and you have a red squiggly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► underlined word thats misspelled like maybe you get like a slight as you move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► there are over it it it was just a little bit of friction or something yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► just makes your school slightly slower like maybe you want to stop here and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► accessibility implications to a huge like imagine instead of having to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► Braille keyboard or Braille touchpad turning on maybe accessibility Braille [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► or something like that and then all of a sudden you know you're you're moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► your cursor over words and it feels like the Braille version of the word leaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2435">TS</a>]
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00:40:47 ◼ ► popping up buttons I'm sure just like with almost every St Cave it was weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► crazy things like this I'm sure that everybody and their mother is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2453">TS</a>]
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00:41:01 ◼ ► you like you roll over its like every single button goes like but as people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2461">TS</a>]
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00:41:12 ◼ ► revolutionary stuff the thing that really blew me away it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► have known this 'cause i've i've never been fully on board with they're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► rid of the separate buttons trackpad so like you know like step one was they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► rid of buttons and made the whole trackpad yeah and I never been fully on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► board with that because and Schiller you know showed the mechanics of exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► because it's like a teeter-totter with the fulcrum at the top click on the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► it's hard to click on the top and I click at the top way more than a look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► the bottom because the menus bars at the top you know the the close button for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► Windows is at the top the tabs at the top so I've never been fully on board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► that because the trackpad clicks better at the bottom and even for years I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2514">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► I've kind of gone away from it but the way that you can still keep your stomach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2520">TS</a>]
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00:42:08 ◼ ► let you treat it like the buttons are still there at the bottom with the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► touch trackpad the Cliq is the same everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► yeah and it's like this is the first one we're not having stand-alone buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► there's no tradeoff know it's it is really cool I intentionally when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► played around with it and hands-on intentionally was like clicking in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2545">TS</a>]
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00:42:33 ◼ ► click in the center and it really is like you can go to the top left corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► and I think I only got one bad click out of like 10 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2556">TS</a>]
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00:42:52 ◼ ► hate them because all the kids and they all hate him and then like the one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► they had like everybody got in trouble because a bunch of them got trashed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► as I get why you guys have Chromebooks instead of a bunch of reckless but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► have don't click their tap cracked at the ground and then you just tap to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► it he said that and that's why he thought this was going to be like and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► said no I'm tell you is I haven't felt that yet but trust me there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► like rolling his eyes and he was like I'm so glad I already have my trackpad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► flex and then we got to the store and he was like ok you're right this is nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► like that sucks yeah I mean I've hated tap like I have tap to click on now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► I this is like after seven years of being like tattoo click is horrible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► you accidently you know brush on it and then your cursor moves everywhere it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► just it it's it's such an uncomfortable compromise especially if you like how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► I like having my trackpad very very responsive I like it being very quick so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2635">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► having to click on its like you move it once and all of a sudden you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► trackpads over here and you're selecting syntex that you never intended I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► know I like the physical buttons I've always liked the physical buttons and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► having Apple actually be able to to build something that feels like physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► buttons but uses the use of the technology of of the multi-touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2657">TS</a>]
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00:47:19 ◼ ► thinking about this so usually the last I would say you know really pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► since the iPhone came out iOS has sort of been the leading edge platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► for new stuff and it was you know it wasn't like back to iPhone it was back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► to the Mac once you know stuff like multi-touch and things like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► here's for such an iOS is the last platform to the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► yeah you could argue that the watch technically led with it but the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► isn't out yet and I mean I guess the MacBook is now yet either but but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► think it's interesting cos I mean we've heard rumors about haptic feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► coming to the Mac and iOS platforms for years I wanna say the first the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► patent over this thing came out I wanna see like three or four months after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► original iPad I remember you know looking over a frenzy being like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► pressure sensitive screen pressure sensitive screen trying all my gosh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► I feel like this technology has been very long and development and adjust its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► which the the platform that made the most sense to launch it on i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► probably when I think about watching it on iOS vs launching it on the Mac I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► like there's a lot more flexibility on the Mac platform if that makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► than iOS iOS has so many different multi-touch controls at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2933">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► especially when you translate over to the iPad that introducing forced touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► on the on the phone first being like not only do you have contextual menus for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► such but we're opening this up to app developers and I feel like I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► think about when you would launch such a thing it would probably be WBC because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► you know you wanna SDK for this and all of that and the only real time to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► that would have been last year during the iOS aid extravaganza explosion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► actually that's an interesting point I haven't thought about that so how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► like so they did last year it is a perfect example where they snuck into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► WWDC that's not but they had a whole bunch of sessions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► important sessions on the display sizes you know which really only made sense in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► the context of there gonna be some new screen sizes oh yeah but they didn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► that they it was all sort of hypothetical like if you had a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/2997">TS</a>]
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00:50:20 ◼ ► hint hint nudge nudge whereas if you lead off with a touch of the watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► forced touching the Mac and you lead off in the spring with it that gives people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3027">TS</a>]
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00:50:49 ◼ ► coming out of their system and allows them to get to know the forced us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► touch technology well enough so that when I say they come out down the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► September saying oh guess what you know that iPad programmer work you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► iPhone the iPhone it has forced touch to now we have such across all your devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► and will release an SDK for developers to to be able to build with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► any developer who's already been playing around on the Mac is like oh yeah I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► how for such works I know perfectly how I could implement this into my apt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► whereas you know you try and do it the other way around you try and launch a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► brand new technology on on iOS in advance I don't know I lost my train of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► thought but I hope one of the things I mean you you personally are like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► know I don't even like a hobbyist level illustrator you like a sketchy like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► draw so clearly that's one of the things you're personally looking at this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► absolutely but it's way more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► on iOS especially the iPad than it is on the Mac for drawing because drawing on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► trackpad is always gonna have no matter how sensitive the trackpad is there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► that layer of indirection where you're drawing on this thing that doesn't show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► what your drying and you're looking above it on a display where it shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► we're drawing whereas drying on an iPad it's right there it's drying directly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► the screen yet the contrast between anybody who's ever used a a Wacom tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► it's the difference between an interest to you know just sketching on this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► done the statics the static surface and having it reflect on the screen versus a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► Cintiq which is a monitor so actually having a directly under on when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► first touch first came out i got really excited I wrote an article on a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► about you know what what does this mean for the rumored iPad pro and what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► this mean for iPads in general and some was like you can't use force touch on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► on a multi-touch screen with a with pixels it's going to damage the pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► like a really good laugh I'm like technically a MacBook trackpad is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► there what my phone its fine case attracted is a multi-touch screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► essentially they're just there no pixels are you fit and again doesn't move it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► glass yea im sure its engineering was trickier because you've also got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► display but it's got a map you got a Mac the your input to specific pixels on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► screen which is also I mean that's something speaking from putting my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► illustrator on a hat on for a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► that's something that illustrators and stylists makers have struggled with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► lot with the iPad because the iPad's initial touch targets were very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► built for finger sized input so it's also why you sellick styluses with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► reburied nibs the first couple years and also why you have an iPad or two and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► stylist all of a sudden the stylus like is cruddy it doesn't work very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► anymore because between the iPad air and the iPad air to they like completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► changed how finger input was done so from a finger point doesn't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► anything but from a stylist all of a sudden like the pixels are off mapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► and everything's off center and sometimes you don't even like it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► even connect budget bunch of gibberish anyway like the the point that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► that actually having mapped pixels to pressure sensitive pressure sensitivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► and and a pressure sensitive screen would be huge for artists and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► just I dunno I dick around I i sketch sometimes I'm not you know I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► heavy-duty illustrator but I talked to like I have friends who are cartoonists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► and web cartoonists who you know who have been wanting him a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► pressure-sensitive iPad screen for four years because the idea especially with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► something like hand off the idea of being able to start a sketch on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► iPad and have the same amount of control and precision as you do you know working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3294">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► on a on a Wacom Cintiq it's it's a pipe dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► it's a it's like that that is the thing then that artists 1 yeah and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► that it's only natural that the smarts go into the drawing surface and not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► stylist yeah you know and the only way to get any kind of pressure sensitivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► up until now and I always do you some kind of pressure sensitive stylus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► it's just I just feel like that's not right and it's not even harkens back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► the analog days where the pressure is registered on paper it's the pan isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► smart about it you know it's the paper that absorbs the pressure if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► gonna do a hard stroke vs a light stroke yeah absolutely and actually that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► something going back to look for such in haptics that's one of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► got me super excited is not just that the that the screen is recognizing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► pressure and whether you know you're making a little a light tan line or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► dark thick line based on your pressure but if the haptics can if the haptics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► can provide click feedback it's a possibility that they can provide a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► rumbling feedback while you're drawing to to give you a little bit more or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► least feel like you're getting a little bit more resistance which I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► if you've ever tried drawing on an iPad screen but one of my biggest criticisms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► has always been the fact that lake if you're driving with anything find tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► or even if you know even with a rubber stylus or one of those paintbrush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► styluses it feels like you're drawing on glass there's no there's there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► pretending that even on a Wacom tablet it feels like you're trying on glass or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► on plastic it doesn't feel like paper and Mike haptics could do that even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► chill like 50% of what paper feels like that could be really incredible right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► like that but that's a completely different experience that were feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► with what's otherwise a stationary glass surface yeah it so the things that come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► to mind for me for the future of the static engine going across everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► artists definitely it also really makes me think about you know you've brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► up the rumored you know mythical iPad pro you know it's obviously is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► coming out this spring maybe now people think maybe that part of the bid for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► you know stuff this year I i you know everybody's been saying that for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► time and have been rumors that Apple is you know commissioning screens and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► like that but I've always said well who's the market right and artists would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► definitely be one right like I think you know no question no question so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► that's gotta be you know if if the device exists that has to be part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► I think I feel like the iPad pro-market the only way they're going to Lake Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► has developed machines that are primarily designed for the creative area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► before which is the Mac Pros for for a long time was designed for software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► engineers and filmmakers and you know people who are doing high-level video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► intensive work but you know people are you well Apple doesn't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► creatives anymore and I don't necessarily think that's true but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► think their their viewpoint has broadened a little bit and I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► feel like for the iPad pro to be successful it has to aggressively target [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► business in a way and again from a from an artist perspective I see first touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► be very useful because the haptics because the pressure all that but from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► business perspective the thing that kind of caught my attention when we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► talking about bigger screens and also haptic responses visual keyboards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► idea like we said we've seen really really crappy implementations of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► and in blackberry a couple years ago when they actually made the screen click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► for I think the blackberry storm and the storm two had electromagnetic responses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► but it just didn't feel very good and it was really really sketchy didn't didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► quite work when you're tapping on it but if you had an iPad pro se that was 10 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► 13 inches and you had haptics available for drawing programs but then you pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► up the keyboard and when you're typing you get the feeling that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► physically depressing keys and you would you get the feeling of like being on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► key verses typing in between key I feel like that could potentially be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► game-changer for the iPad in regards to to writing and functioning with it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► thought of that too but even in theory I could see how that would even help on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► oh yeah but the big butt is that it seems like you'd only get their feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► after pressing yeah so it's more it's not like you'd know I don't see how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► could do it unless they could actually raise the screen and advance which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► doesn't seem like this especially if you're talking you know the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► about Apple's desire to move from glass to sapphire which is hard like you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► make sapphire raise up some substance could and you know but you wouldn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► that feedback before you press you don't get it afterwards it would just be a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► to know that maybe you just you thought you were typing D but it feels like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► yeah the other thought is you use the pressure sensitivity to be that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► lightly brush your fingers against the keyboard it doesn't actually type down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► it just lets you feel those keys and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:25 ◼ ► when you press a little bit harder types for you yeah that might be a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3625">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► of it might be too much of an adjustment to do on an iPad but I like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► especially I was actually thinking about it after I got a chance to type on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► new MacBook for a second because they the new MacBooks key is i mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► talked a lot about the the butterfly design and all of that but the keys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► significantly shorter and thinner than they are even on the current MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► and initially took a second for me to kind of get used to it because it I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► really like hammering down on the key use because that's what I've I'm used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► it the air and like the even the older the older keep keyboards with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► really thick manual keys but with the MacBook after a little bit of tinkering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► with it like feeling it out I found that I was almost gliding around the gliding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► around the trap the keyboard when I was typing so it didn't you know it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► like physically picking my finger up tapping and other things physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► Dutta duh but it was moving my fingers very quickly and only pressing down when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► I felt kind of like the ridges on to a certain key I don't know if that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► any sense but it it feels to me like the new MacBook keyboard is practically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► forced touch trackpad it's it's so small and so thin that it like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► what it feels like that that is potentially down the line where Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► could go supports it it makes me think I won't like it because I feel like but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3716">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► the other hand I've never liked typing on any laptop keyboard ever it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► just a degree of how little I liked it compared to a real solid clicky desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► keyboard it's intriguing to me though I do and I i love that slow motion video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► they made of the fingers in a making the whole thing the keyboard yeah well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► call it like another thing this but I guess shallowness that's the main thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► doesn't it just does not that there's just enough physically isn't the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► depressed and I just sent you a link in this is way before your time this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► I know I know I know the RA 500 height 400 yeah I remember wanting one so bad I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► wanted every computer and I wanted one of everything and i got none of them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► I remember when this came out and they had demo units and it was K mart one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► the stories happening there was that are 802 the 800 had a real keyboard I'll put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► this in the shows the Atari 400 which had I don't even know what you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► call that would you call that that I feel like that was a touch type keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► before touch type was a think on on max where it's just like it's it's a match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► with slightly raised in dense for where to you should be but there's they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► like little lake little tiny buttons hidden underneath the keys and buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► so bad and I remember all my friend even that you know I was the one who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► obsessed with the keyboard clicking this even at that age and nobody else really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► care but everybody agreed my god this computer's keyboard is the biggest piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► like this is insane I think it was a good classic I'm guessing internally at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► Apple it was like a classic up cell where the Atari 400 really only existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► to get people to buy the Atari 800 oh yeah it's like sure you could you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► have this or for X amount of dollars more you could ever real keyboard you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► want a real keyboard don't you it was so they advertise it as an advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► child-proof designed a pressure-sensitive wiped clean keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► well I mean I guess it would be a lot harder to spill applesauce I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► I feel like spilling something on any computer in the eighties was bad news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► period but I think the new MacBook keyboard can be down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► yea well so I like I completely understand your hesitation on it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► I was def like I don't I'm not a huge fan of the laptop keyboards especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► the increasing obsession with dinner and and shallower keyboards but you need it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► that it takes the current MacBook Airs look like you know science but I like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► genuinely really really enjoyed typing on it and I don't know if it's just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► physically noticed the wobble of the key use after using that MacBook like going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► back to my MacBook Air but there is something significantly faster feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► about typing on it once you get used to it the first five minutes it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► you're typing in bizarro land or almost like you're typing on glass where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► because I like when I first started using it I was pounding so hard that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► was making the entire computer shake and I was kind of surprised by that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► like I I don't feel like I'm typing that much harder than I do on my air and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► once I sort of lightened up my pressure on it I was able to go really fast but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► no i i i don't know whether it was just a really quick learning curve and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► really I really enjoyed it to the point where I now that I'm using my Mac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► you know going back to using by 11 inch MacBook Air I'm kinda jealous I i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► wanna use that keyboard not enough to get a new MacBook but but enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► I'm like rape can be next year already know what I would like to see this fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► into the other computers so this brings us back to where we were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3954">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► the a week later how people seem more upset about the new MacBook than they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► were on the day of the event has it settled and people are upset and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► the things i've detected a recurring complaint is that clearly what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► wanted were the MacBook Air as we know it with a registry and yeah they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► going to get it and I think they know in your heart this means I never gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► it as prices drop on the components for this new MacBook and it can they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► they can make it for like $9.99 I don't know if they get it if they do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► although maybe they'll keep the 11 inch air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► longer at 899 or something but once they can make this $9.99 the MacBook Air goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► yeah I have to assume so which makes me a little bummed to be honest I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► like the 11 inch computer but the 12 and she's not that much bigger honestly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► not that much it's not like it you have a little bit of with here and there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► overall it has very similarly the same footprint yeah it's a funny sort of way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► that like they've they've expanded a lot of other things now there's two iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► sizes now there is three iPhones sizes and at least two at the you know current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► latest and greatest but now they're taking the standard MacBook from two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► sort of splitting the difference yeah bringing it down to write the air is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► you want the late model you're just going to have to make do with 12 inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► and if you want more screen size variation then let's look at the promo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► the the proline yeah I think so but I think that as that settled in people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► realize they're never going to get an air as we know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► ok we're going to sacrifice a little you know it's not going to be the thinnest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► in the world but it has you know a separate power port has MagSafe it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► couple of USB ports has a thunderbolt this you know dongle dongle port port ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4073">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► boy and it's gonna happen and people as I settled and now people are getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► people getting angry but I still think though like but look at how different it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► is we're in 2008 when Apple unveiled the air Montaner it was $3,100 to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► good one and now you can get a good new MacBook for 1300 the base model is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► yeah it's not bad at all I got my most recent eras $1,400 something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► for completely maxed out and I loved it it was a it was a great choice and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► think I feel like people cannot get through their head is the way that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► is clearly saying you're not supposed to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► power connection your you know you're so you know the future is not just wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► peripherals but wireless power you know that you're you're gonna charge when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4134">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► you're you know somewhere overnight and then you're going to use the thing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► day without having you just gonna run with it and you know what I was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► my one concern with the new MacBook was the lack of MagSafe especially I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► know if you saw on Twitter but yesterday I had a fun accident with my macbook air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► a backpack yeah so I picked up my backpack and it wasn't dripped all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► way as I like picked it up to swing it around on my back my macbook air flew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► out of the back of the backpack and like slammed onto the ground is fine except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► for corn because he's a magical things wow yeah and and like thick vessels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► thank God for dead classed glass screens but that said wake as soon as that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► happened and I was like after I got over the heart attack and the like oh my God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► my MacBook's ok I immediately thought of a god this is what's gonna happen to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► hundred MacBooks when someone trips over the USBC cord because they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► they're just gonna go flying through the air and I'm kind of concerned about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► USBC being the power charging solution but it's like you said I really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► that by taking away MagSafe Apple is basically saying you know you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► to charge this computer you know 9 10 hours of battery life it should be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► enough for anyone using this end for me I'm like that's right on the edge I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► like I would have been a lot more comfortable if they had released a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► machine that was like 14 to 16 hours of battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► light web browsing because 14 to 16 hours translates probably into seven to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► eight hours of like heavy usage or running multiple programs or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► watching video to support tabs open you know basically how many how many you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► know moderate to pro user destroys their travel machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► so nine to 10 hours makes me a little bit nervous especially so during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► keynote I had a I had my 11 inch MacBook Air which has the same you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► last year's model has the same reported nine to 10 hours as the new MacBook made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► a tethered to a to a Canon Rebel mark to shooting the keynote and the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► went from 100% fully charged to 19% an hour and 20 minutes with that tethering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► and I ended up having to take out the takeoff the tethering and turn my screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► down really low and just spend the rest of the the key don't like alright I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► just gonna I'm a regular number photographs so I I think about things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► like that where I'm like yes this is the night this is not the ideal use case for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► this for this new MacBook but still you know it should probably last more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► two hours in high usage scenarios without needing to be plugged in and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4314">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► people like maybe maybe Apple's just saying those those people you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► people who need high usage hi battery things made maybe you should still look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► at a computer that has a MagSafe right for now you know and it's I'm not trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► to say that it's not a loss because I like almost everybody I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► there's anybody who hasn't had one incident over the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► the MagSafe era where somebody tripped over cable and MagSafe just popped you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► know as advertised popped right out and you're like wow that I MagSafe just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► might have saved my computer it happen to me so I'm not underplaying I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► definitely think not having MagSafe is in some ways it's a loss because mag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► savers amazing and what a clever idea nobody else has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► lo these many years later pricing me but I really think that the message is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► shouldn't be using it while it power or at least was connected to a wall outlet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► and so think about it and when this win when mark fuhrman's scoop on this design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► hit a couple of it was in January [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► yes and everybody you know the the first thing everybody said boy this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► has to be wrong because there's no MagSafe and there's no way that is safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► and that people who obviously had the right idea was like well iPad doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► have MagSafe an awful lot of people use their iPad the way other people use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► Macbook and think about that in the end you also then wore them what do you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► with an iPad if you're using it all day you know as a writer or student is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► whatever and you're low on power where you don't plug into the wall you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► like a Mophie battery pack and plug it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► so and you're going to be able to do that with the MacBook MacBook case well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► yeah but no I'm totally like people who are what was it last week people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► like oh Apple is going to allow people to make battery cases for the MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► this is the first time like this is this is a charging port that they they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► control your own so I kind of feel the power user move is not going to be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► bring your you're charging cable along with you with your USB only mad book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► the power user move is to bring a you know high-capacity movie style power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► brick with you and then you have it then you don't need MagSafe because it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► just be sitting there right next to your MacBook on the table with you know six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► yeah I was actually you know the person the person was going to make bank on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► USBC accessories is who's going to make a hobby a USBC hard that also has like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► ten thousand million battery in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► yeah that'd be great like you plug your USB see into something like the size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► a current Apple power brick maybe a little bit longer and then out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► you get a ten thousand million battery you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► DisplayPort you get USB ports that that would be that would be a killer a killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► accessory for me and i'm looking at my movie too old to the new one now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► its much more clever but I have this couple of years old mophie juice pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► Powerstation and now just looking at it thinking like we'll look at all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► sites just fill it with USB port so yeah like if if Apple can you know still feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► ports while filling its laptops full of batteries battery manufacturer should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► totally be able to do that that's definitely I think that's the power of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► going forward is to treat it exactly like you would and iOS device where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► if you expect to be running low on battery by the end of the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► don't assume that you're going to find a seat next to a wall outlet bring a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/4551">TS</a>]
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01:28:36 ◼ ► right for me and Lightroom at first really hit a sweet spot but the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► the problem I run into with Lightroom is just that it ties my photos to my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► and they're not everywhere and picked her life doesn't really I haven't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► they have a new thing for Lightroom but it's like because I shoot in RAW and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5336">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► lot of the photo upload site want everything in JPEG you have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► export manually which is way too much work like I'm not gonna do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► I just kind of you know I don't spend that much time I just go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► throughout all the ones are garbage keep the ones that are garbage find the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► that are actually really good and then maybe spend a couple minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► you know tweaking them to make them perfect you know so there's really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► I shoot you know over a holiday or vacation shoot like 300 photos I throw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► hundred out maybe a hundred fifty out as their garbage or duplicates in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► equally good as another shot taken at the same moment and I'll find maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► dozen that are really good and then I'll take this doesn't you know pipe filters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:45 ◼ ► tweak the exposure to make it perfect and then that's it that's all I do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5385">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► then I'm done I don't have to pick which ones to export stuff like that so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► hopeful that I guess where I'm going with this whole thing is that I'm kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► of secretly hoping that the new photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► of secretly hoping that the new photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► as for Mac will be good enough for all of that it will make me wanna switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► from Lightroom even if I miss some of laterooms expert controls that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► overall flow of having my photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► sink to iCloud and then you know I have to do is start them and then they start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► ones will show up on all my devices and stuff like that that's kind of what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► hoping yeah I so I've been testing the photos beta since I think the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► first developer beta on the phone and the first developer based on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► which was last month I wanna say now and photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► isn't perfect but it feels so I used loom last two years ago when it when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► showed up I wanna say it started in 2013 and then drop box bought it last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► and I really liked loom for exactly the recent you were describing where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► like your photos are everywhere although of loom didn't have photo editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► features so anytime I want to edit something I had to pull it down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► edited and like Photoshop or something and then through a back up and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► that was that was messy it did it didn't have the seamless experience that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► really wanted and photos comes closest I think especially talking about what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► you really want out of a photo editor the thing that really like that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► impresses me in photos is how easy it is to get a really nice at it from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► we're like they're editing controls are super simple if you want them to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► super simple it's just you know it's three sliders it's like the light the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► color and the black and white slider he wanted to turn your photo into black and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► white but there is a lot of there's a lot of hidden stuff in there if you drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► it down like if you drop down the late exposure you got exposure highlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► shadows brightness contrast stuff like that and on photos for Mac there's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► some more stuff that you can add like a histogram he want you know more in depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► about what your colors doing you can add like sharpening and definition and noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► reduction and white balance and levels so you got you got a lot of controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► which is not i mean it's not it's not as good as a pitcher and it's not as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► as lightroom but I also feel like this is a 1.0 product and it feels to me very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► iMovie 08 are not even iMovie 08 by movie 11 where it's like there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► enough in there for the con professional that that you won't feel like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► just using baby tools the way that I photo was my current struggle with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► photos for Mac is that I love the sinking I love the editing tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► favoring is really easy albums are sinking which is really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► still no smart albums on my phone I'm kind of bummed by Felix Smart Albums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► would be really great way to organize certain things like screenshots for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► example and but maybe it's too complicated on iOS right now may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► there for me it's like I'm back project but my my problem is I already pay 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5576">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► bucks a month for Dropbox for you know having a terabyte of storage and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► all my photos in Dropbox and now I'm paying you know I'm currently paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► four bucks a month for iCloud photo library and iCloud services but I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► I'm gonna have to upgrade to the next year as soon as I integrate my entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► photo library and photos for Mac right now have about 5,000 photos and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► I have like thirty five forty thousand photos sitting in Dropbox that I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► have to to integrate into this new library and I'm a little afraid about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► how much money I'm gonna have to pay Apple every months to store all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► and also there's the Apple has you know Apple wants to make it really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► simple when it comes to optimizing photos I I had a big conversation with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► some of the Apple raps about like how the that checkbox that says Optima is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► only like a certain subset of the photos on your hard drive and how that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► and basically it's it's dynamic so it depends on how much space you have free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5634">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► and how much space you have on your hard drive total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► often like it chooses the photos automatically for you based on like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► photos you've opened recently the photos in your favorites and any photos that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► you're editing immediately get pulled down from the cloud which is like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► that's nice and and I like the idea of having to take it out of the user's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► hands but at the same time it makes it a little hard to be like alright well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► know I want a specific album to show to people to have to start each one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► those photos individually like you have to copy all of those photos and put them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► into a Dropbox album to make sure that they stay locally on my machine vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► getting vanished up into the clouds I have to open all of them you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► the Apple tries to make things super easy and for the majority of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► they're super easy and it's great and then there are the weird use cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► really I just I really just want to know that my photos are here so I can I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► them it's a really hard problem it is it is really wide-ranging once you once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► start thinking about everything that you need and a complete photo system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► everything from import and reading all the various RAW formats of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► various cameras and doing a lot of which a lot in and of itself is like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► underappreciated thing that Apple is doing you know how many times you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► like a Mac OS 10 update that includes you know it's like 40 new bra cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► and you think I did notice that many bad all the editing and the smart said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► that you want and then but then you get into the sinking stuff and it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► you know you know like to think i will like with Apple wats like I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► there's some people who are like I think that they've said they would you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► it's officially documented that there's only 75 megabytes of storage for photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► and everything that's crazy considered inside know that I can put your full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5756">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► size photos they're going to scale them because it doesn't make any sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► the tiny Retina screen why would you have full size photos 20 megapixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► right even like eight megapixel photos right off the iPhone doesn't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► sense it's only a 40 millimetres yeah you know you're gonna be able to fit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► lot of photos and 75 megabytes but how do you do that scaling where does where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► does that happen and you know it's just so complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► yeah well I feel like they've gotten they've gotten some of that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► figured out already because when when photos aren't stored so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► optimization turn-on for both my macbook air and my iPhone because I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► you know 5,000 5,000 photos worth of space taken up on my computer and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► all of the photos that aren't stored locally you still see like low res [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► previews and I have to wonder if those low res previews happened to be the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5816">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► sizes are nice little Retina screen I feel like the the thirty eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► millimeter is something like to 12 by 300 something so those are those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► pretty small pictures to begin with so it may just be that like all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► low res snapshots that that photos for Mac and photos for iOS stores by default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► may be the perfect size for her on and those don't take up very much space at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► all I think those are probably kilobytes so anyway what it what is your overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► verdict so far on I found the beta for Mac it's surprisingly solid actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► am especially given from the first beta I had a couple of problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► initially with iCloud photo library randomly turning off when i turn it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► and then I'd relaunch photos from a can often turn it on again but aside from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► that it's really fast even I've got 5050 photos and right now and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5874">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► scrolls ridiculously fast I'm in the bay I'm scrolling through right now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► talking to you again I wanna MacBook Air it's not like not like I have a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► chorus at my disposal are really high level video card but it its speedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► opening up photos that aren't stores like I'm gonna go back you know here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► something from CES that's almost definitely not stored it took two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► seconds to load up from from online it does like it's it's it's super fast also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► I really appreciate how how well it syncs with iCloud iCloud always been one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► of those things with her you know it can either work really well or it can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► completely wet the bed and and especially I noticed this I was born on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► a flight back from San Francisco on the internet was completely completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► failing because you know go areas either great or terrible so I was just sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► on my sitting on my iPhone and playing a bunch of my call to adventure and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► going into photos and being like you know I'm just gonna go through all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► photos I have on my on my phone and like delete and organized accordingly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► I've got nothing else to do and I've got all these photos and I know I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► like duplicates and things like that and I did all of this with no internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► access in the back of my head and this includes like photos that aren't stored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► locally on the device that have like the little processing symbol on the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► my head of mike is this gonna accidentally screw over my entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► library when I might as well find out it's a beta right and it seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► everything perfectly and all the favorites that like I queued while I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► offline it pulled all of those down as soon as I got off the plane and like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► and something like that is really really a big market change for Apple least for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► me where you know i i basically did all that having implicit trust that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► photos wouldn't either disappear or accidentally triplicate and I was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► granted that mean haha that may not be a hundred percent of the time it worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► for me maybe it won't work for other people I'm kind of hoping that it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► it's better though like I haven't really run into any photo Los problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► iCloud photo library and that was my biggest concern because your photos are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6019">TS</a>]
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01:53:33 ◼ ► have to do an extra amount of effort just to get the baseline level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6813">TS</a>]
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01:53:57 ◼ ► interview there's at least one moment where someone's like are you wearing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6837">TS</a>]
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01:54:04 ◼ ► minute demo of something called on it and it's every time it's a slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6844">TS</a>]
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01:54:16 ◼ ► first on list Charlie Rose that was that right the ps1 yeah he spent like two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6856">TS</a>]
01:54:22 ◼ ► three minutes and he did show off Apple paying that one and then each subsequent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6862">TS</a>]
01:54:26 ◼ ► 1 like Goldman Sachs he talked about like white was useful for him and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6866">TS</a>]
01:54:31 ◼ ► Fast Company article that came out yesterday or this morning where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6871">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► talking about the watch glances and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6875">TS</a>]
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01:54:44 ◼ ► able to do product marketing demos without making them feel like product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6884">TS</a>]
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01:55:16 ◼ ► his career I should take combined of course I want you think there are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6916">TS</a>]
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01:55:31 ◼ ► in jobs absence but it's still like this is this is their first product and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6931">TS</a>]
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01:55:48 ◼ ► be weighing on them a little bit too we have to make this a success and we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6948">TS</a>]
01:55:52 ◼ ► to be sure that this really miss launches out the door like gangbusters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6952">TS</a>]
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01:56:09 ◼ ► like they used to be and smart watches especially I have not you know up until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► I tried on the thirty eight millimeter Apple watch there was not a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:17 ◼ ► SmartWatch on the market that would fit my wrist like smart watches just aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6977">TS</a>]
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01:56:27 ◼ ► misogynistic no women for smart watches but it's just like no one was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:33 ◼ ► about small wrists and how a small lake house SmartWatch screen might work on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6993">TS</a>]
01:56:38 ◼ ► small wrists and Apple was the first one you know that the Apple watch the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/6998">TS</a>]
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01:56:47 ◼ ► still functional I can still do things on it it's not like they have squashed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7007">TS</a>]
01:56:50 ◼ ► the screen down so far that you know it's now impossible to use even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7010">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► it it it it looks semi night so it's you know I think they're facing the wearable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:59 ◼ ► issue 2 like everybody needs of all everybody was going to your smartphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7019">TS</a>]
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01:57:10 ◼ ► millimeters here few millimeters there and it decides it makes a big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7030">TS</a>]
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01:57:21 ◼ ► that got a lot of mass market attention is the Moto 360 aka the Moto 270 because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7041">TS</a>]
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01:57:32 ◼ ► care for it but I think that a lot of people have praised the design but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7052">TS</a>]
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01:57:54 ◼ ► before we went to the doors for the Apple event and I was actually like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7074">TS</a>]
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01:58:16 ◼ ► off each side and at that point I was just kind of like yeah it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7096">TS</a>]
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01:58:30 ◼ ► about how to watch and the more we kind of get a sense of it is that it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7110">TS</a>]
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01:58:46 ◼ ► not just telling the time in getting your text notifications on your wrist at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7126">TS</a>]
01:58:51 ◼ ► the same time it's a real platform and there is an inherent complexity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7131">TS</a>]
01:58:58 ◼ ► anything that ambitious and I don't know that it's a problem because I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7138">TS</a>]
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01:59:08 ◼ ► be able to figure out how to adjust your watch face and pick the one you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7148">TS</a>]
01:59:11 ◼ ► be able to pick up the complications you want on the watch face but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7151">TS</a>]
01:59:15 ◼ ► it's quite as simple as the iPhone was in 2007 the iPhone hit the home button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7155">TS</a>]
01:59:20 ◼ ► and there were i think it was 13 apps that were right there on the home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7160">TS</a>]
01:59:24 ◼ ► and those 13 apps on the homescreen gave you a quick one screen overview of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7164">TS</a>]
01:59:31 ◼ ► scope of what you could do with the app and just the names of the apps will let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7171">TS</a>]
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01:59:38 ◼ ► more and there are a couple of other contextual modes that the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7178">TS</a>]
01:59:43 ◼ ► iPhone didn't have like glances and notification center that give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7183">TS</a>]
01:59:48 ◼ ► little bit of extra complicit complexity in terms of where are you and how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7188">TS</a>]
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01:59:57 ◼ ► a Mac in that sense of not being a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7197">TS</a>]
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02:03:22 ◼ ► fully formed this platform is at this point than iPhone wasn't in 2007 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7402">TS</a>]
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02:05:22 ◼ ► put out Apple watch version 2.5 with no App Store and with limited apps they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy08Nt4/7522">TS</a>]
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