116: ‘Browser Pooped on the Wee-Wee Pad’, With Guest Joanna Stern
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so join at CERN you have a new puppy and it's a boy
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what's-his-name attaboy what's his name his name is browser yeah yeah as in not
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as in Safari Firefox or Chrome browser shout we show no platform platform
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agnostic in the family somehow browser makes for a good dog named but anyone at
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the individual ones would be a terrible I know we had so many things on the list
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and my wife said no to pretty much every other technique my head on the list I
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mean I think where he is a mistake I think we should have named Tim korte try
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to think which browser would make for the worst name ie he could be right
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chrome sounds cold are you crashed again he crashed yeah yeah so adorable he's
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really adorable I have turned into that person that I hate which I'm constantly
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posting photos of my puppy doing like the same thing that he did five minutes
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like right now he's sleeping under my desk and I am doing taking everything in
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me not to post another photo of him
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Firefox sounds like a cool dog named it does there have been a little bit like
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an identity crisis for my fiance Internet Explorer is the worst name for
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a dog and I'm gonna say Firefox was the best if you are if you were to name your
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dog after any individual browser yeah yeah I mean netscape would have been
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cute maybe you're watching yes one of the little details of wearing a watch is
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it now there's yet another thing to make sure his silent I know I'm going to
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silence it maybe I'm not you know what I'm not going to emphasise how many
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times it goes off that's right I actually find I guess we're just diving
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right into it I found even wrote about this that the watch works way more
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naturally to me was sound off I have sound off I would say in the I guess
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it's been two weeks I guess I was recording we've had it for two-plus
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weeks two weeks of daily use
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I think I've had sound off
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99 percent of the time actually it's funny cuz I usually like when I put it
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in do not disturb motor or silent mode I forgot about it and then when am i knoo
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have heard the sound in awhile i turn it back on the top deck yes I still getting
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the alerts
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it's the noises for them that that I don't have on ya you know what I haven't
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had that on that much either to be honest because if I'm in meetings or
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suffered I turned that off and it's not just about interrupting people to me
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it's I don't know somehow in my mind it just feels right fuels right that the
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watch is tapping me to say hey I've got something sound to me it's day I had
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that with my phone I don't know it does it it just doesn't seem right to me that
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my my watch is making noise the only sound I have on my phone is for my email
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message pretty much everything but I do think I'm on the fence about this I
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can't quite tell I kind of thing and this is one of the things that even two
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weeks and I can't quite make up my mind I kind of feel like I want the tactic
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engine to be a little bit stronger really just a little and it just seems
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like every once in awhile I miss one its MS-one I I had that too I definitely had
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that where I miss one but sometimes I feel like maybe it's cuz my family needs
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lube is a little bit loose my lip is loose sounds sounds really bad though
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you can it's just a it's the question of how comfortable it is you wanted it
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tighter you could just title yeah yeah I find it so comfortable I mean I cannot
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overestimate how comfortable is think it yeah I i it seems to imply did not get
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to spend time with that I wasn't sure what they were going to do in a few like
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which one are you marry again we're in the link bracelet again that 90% of the
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time that I have I think everybody got the white sport band I now have the
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ticket regardless I remember from your video to ask for that or they just gave
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it to us feedback
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I think they didn't they didn't even i wasnt even offered a choice of sportsmen
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they just gave me white yeah I asked for a black and then they didn't have the
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black when they came to New York and so they're gonna get me this swap out the
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black but actually that's a word or so yeah and I've heard from people I have
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not done the because were you and I are spoiled and we've already got review
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units I have not done that things have gone to a store and tried on the watches
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but I have heard from people who have who a bunch of them seem to say that the
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various port Mansfield subtly different from each other that black is even more
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subtle subtle than white not that they're radically different but that
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they're different enough that they feel confident that like with their eyes
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closed they can't tell which was which I have this problem that the sport ban Noi
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it's a small problems I didn't really talk about it matured you kind of see it
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and that video when I'm having a hard time putting it on you know that the
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small medium and in the in the same one and then at the medium large pan and the
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medium large band it's a little bit too big like the last one the last hole
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there's probably a professional work for that whole anyway
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on that one its it gets a little bit too big step to use the smaller band which
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makes it much harder to put on but if it's much nicer when I have it on and
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what I found you know I always change into that for for working out and that
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fit is so important when you're working out because I found you know I did a
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couple of workout classes with the Milanese went on a run and i'd really
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did not find as accurate Hartree tracking and then when I switch it for
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that sport bandits far more accurate the problem is it takes me forever to put it
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on because it's a little bit too small but when I finally get it on my wrist it
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fits perfect I read that interview and it was one of things I want talk about
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now I understand why you found it a little harder to get on so in other
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words when you put the smaller than just to step back up I know there's been a
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lot of confusion on this because I just from people who read the site and email
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me on Twitter tweeting me
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when it says that you get two straps with your Apple watch sport what they
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mean is you get two sizes it's an end that that's true whether you get 38 or
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40 to see you actually get three pieces the top piece is the same the one that
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actually has the slot that the other peace talks under and has the pin and
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then you get to bottom pieces the peace with the holes that you pop the pennant
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21 is smaller one is larger I see what your saying you're saying that the
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smaller of them once it's on a better feel but because there's only a little
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bit left of it to talk under right right I actually wonder like is that really
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meant for kids like who has that smaller wrists for their really when you when
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you get on like the closest and strap the small and rabbit it's on the other
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side of the room and I'm afraid I wake up the puppy if I don't get it it's
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really small yeah I assume I wonder if the bands are the same site they must be
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right the bands must be the same size whether you got the 38 of 42 no I think
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that the 42 probably bigger because the 42 now I think that yeah I think that
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the big one on the 42 is just humongous it is it's almost i i would i would
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guess that there are very few men on the planet for whom the larger of the 42 is
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still not be enough it is truly truly getting a belt on my wrist so the small
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one actually for me with the 42 and you know I'm not my restaurant particularly
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large I think there are some of the tallest I am they're probably a little
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bit on the small side but the smaller one I used the smaller one with the 42
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and I'm only like three holes into it like I actually have 5527 homes so it's
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not even halfway on the smaller on its actually have their very
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the 42 their very large
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and I definitely definitely definitely think that the 38 small one is
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definitely meant to range down to kids sizes because we've done that thing
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where you know Apple has the years with you know measure your wrist in
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millimeters and here's the ranges and for Jonas whose only 11 and is a pretty
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slight for an eleven year old boy he easily is within the range I guess not
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even you know he might even have to despair is getting one he wants one
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I think there's some question over report cards right evading get one but
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he desperately wants one man I'm trying to think of what I used to work for when
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I was younger I think money it's our sports I i were true like sports stuff
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he has denied Shakib I was a huge tomboy so would be like if I could get a new
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one time really wanted to new basketball upgrade from a crappy rubber basketball
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to a nice synthetic leather right right that was always my problem playing
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basketball is if I ever needed a new one I wanted you know $45 synthetic leather
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Spalding and parents are you nuts this year's a $17 basketball be like that has
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made a Robert yeah and now it now the kids were crap watches that's cute he
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desperately wanted but I do wonder I wonder like that's really useful for
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like four kids I wonder what the use cases going to be for them
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well we can get into that but I am again it's speculative and it's certainly
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enters you know clearly socioeconomic implications of the idea of
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at a school where a bunch of the kids have $400 apple launches but in that
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world I think that the communication stuff is going to be huge right because
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they have a long I think it's how would you say
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1111 yeah I mean you're not in use they have all these kitty like smart watches
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I guess I guess that's what they're called but you know they're sort of the
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trackers that have the built-in GPS and stuff like that i mean it seems like
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that's probably not the right age range for something like this and in terms of
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communication obviously would be great for parents are keeping tabs on their
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kids making sure they see Mike alerts or something like that but I don't know if
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it expands into that tracking texting yeah I know more so than having a phone
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but that's you know and he's in 5th Grade I can't even imagine what it's
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like with the girls who are clearly more advanced socially than the boys right
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but even with his friends there's the texting has really taken off this year
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like 5th grade seems to be where the boys in his class really taken off with
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texting and I don't even pay attention to it my wife does just to make sure
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it's nothing inappropriate or whatever but it just seems inscrutable it's like
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gibberish
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it's like a foreign language well that without brings me to the best part of
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your review your view is great but I have to say the best part of your
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viewers your your teen romance at the end which is also the part that got the
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most like you are you freakin serious this is a bunch of crap you know you can
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see you can either for Syria the type of person who can see that scenario or not
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and the people who cannot see it
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think that you know that I know I don't drink too much or as a whiner everyone I
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wrote that part but I meant it seriously I really did I mean I think if if
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anything I mean do you think years ago we could have foreseen US communicating
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at all with emoji no I mean like that i mean as crazy as as some of those graphs
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and as crazy as some of these emoticons that they put on here and as much as I
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sort of made fun of them a little bit you just really don't know and like I
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think it would have sounded crazy twists a number of years ago that like we would
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all be texting in emojis aren't sometimes complete sentences in them and
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people understand that like a bad idea is is kind of crazy and I certainly
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think that visual way of communicating with each other whether it's photos are
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creepy my hands or creepy heart rates could certainly be WAY bigger than we
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actually think it might be but I think you were totally right to say that it
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might appeal to a younger demographic or it just might turn into something that
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like becomes this language amongst a different sort of generation maybe maybe
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just shows how old ya know exactly the sort of thing I was trying to get out
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and I believe it so this is a true story so my wife and I grew up together we
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were literally in the same kindergarten class and in high school at one point
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where we will we would one way we would marlys for with each other as we just
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had a system where we had the same math classes and we had a system where I
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would have liked but it was the type of type of calculator that someone in AP
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Calculus in nineteen eighty nine or ninety would have had a bunch of buttons
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and had memory and had a way to like actually put my characters in there so
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we had like this complicated system of letters and numbers to make letter you
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know to make notes and it was incredibly cryptic but then we would just swap
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calculators and we'd of Notre each other and it was super it wasn't you couldn't
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actually type it didn't have a disease that you had to skip certain but it felt
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like it was for proof because anybody teacher taught us all look like as we
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were swapping calculators and even if they saw what was on the screen they
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wouldn't be able to understand it and at grade where you have to upgrade my god
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that's amazing we talked about you know if we are actually worth it
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hadn't thought about it in years but we talked about in the context of Apple
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watch and you know what we would have done if we had Apple watches in 11th
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Grade right right I mean it's also it's that sort of 633 let me see here oh yes
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my editor trying to get me on the phone right now sorry I'm you deposit podcast
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right now is fine now I don't know if you did before
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weight without me that was that was my mind silent because I have my headphones
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on too so if I'm hearing them i think im hearing in through the side i think is
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very few people can get a real idea of how many alerts I get back to you right
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that's an amazing story I mean yeah I think it's like there's also this this
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idea like sort of slightly communicating with someone when nobody else knows
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right and so like you were describing the calculator or someone who's in a
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movie theater or something like that it could be it could certainly be
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interesting I think yeah I mean I i I made some sarcastic comments about their
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the certain emojis but they're they're definitely fun there is a there's a
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bootstrapping issue which ended whether it's teenagers or whatever
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which is that these the most innovative ways to communicate the drawings that
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taps the heart beats only watch to watch and so the bootstrapping issue is it
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only works if the person you want to send these to also has watch and it's
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weird and so a bunch of people wrote to me after my review came up and they said
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you know for this particular case I'm surprised Appleton give you two so that
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you can have your wife or one and then you could try these things out and I
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think so how did you try those things and the answer is so we like we're
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sending taps and stuff to people at Apple Apple PR people and and product
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marketing people
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I did not I will say this I found it weird enough that I didn't want to send
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my heart beat anybody does it felt I don't know it just was like a little or
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yeah yeah I mean I've been sending my heart rated them a heartbeat Nui Patel
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for two weeks now and I think it's really brought us closer together that
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should have in mind and that's what I should have done yeah I think we are
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really gotten to know each other on another level so I sent to happen to you
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and you ignored me to do not get them did you miss my tabs like the greatest
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deaths now if I just get out of my faith taps I don't think I knew they were from
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maybe they came from my Google phone number maybe I do like what's your area
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code 267
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that yeah that's one thing about them the other thing about all three of the
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watch specific communications the doodles the taps the heartbeat is they
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are ephemeral and write you so in others there is no record of nowhere to go back
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and replay them so there's a sort of snapchat enos ephemeral quality to them
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yeah he died cloud yes my digital crown really how you know and that seen in the
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can you really risk realistically doodle on this screen other than like high and
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those who do I guess I didn't have your phone number but now they're sending it
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that it's it's I don't know what it is that it is well aware podcast but I feel
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heartbeat right now but I i feel were close enough
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hard time getting it to catch my heartbeat when I do that it's not like I
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basically takes up the whole screen he did everybody he sent me his heartbeat
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can hear it I think it's hard to hear well we had to like what we filmed a
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video based on the mic and it actually done it but I can tell you that to me is
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is one that's gonna work I think that people beating people are going to use
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yeah probably it's just a way of saying I am thinking about you right now
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certainly if it's if it's someone close to you but I think I think I think
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there's something that I didn't get to talk about my review and something I've
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been thinking about like as more and more people where the use the iPhone
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right like the iPhone became a really powerful tool as more and more people
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got that right not only cause more apps came out but even just in terms of
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part of my life even though I don't really think about it but it's part of
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the thing that sort of Italian communicate with everyone all day long
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my colleagues my friends my family and the same sort of thing with the watch
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right like it more and more people have this there might be going to become
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these ways we can connect to those other people that have them and actually one
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thing I've been thinking about it I wrote this piece a couple I like a year
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way where if you see another person with an Apple watch you can easily sort of
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transmit information or their contact information like a handshake you know
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what I've been saying about this for years ever since the iPhone came out one
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of the weird things about the iPhone is that there's nothing like that
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and the Newton had and Anna people mark the news but the Newton had a thing or
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if you met somebody else who had a Newton all you had to do is point your
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ir ports at each other and there was like two taps away and you'd exchange
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contact cards and it was you know say what you want about the new it was one
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of the things that work great and it seemed like something I love the idea
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pointing your I R person seemed like something you should be able to do and
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you could do it worked and yet here we are in in 2015 you still can't do it
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with even if you both have iPhones let alone now I did do it where it would
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work with anybody and that was one of things I i said about the iPhone 6 when
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it came out with NFC was ok it's great for payments but I kinda wish there were
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more things you could do when you put this in contact with another phone
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obviously Android's done some things with you know there being no one really
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uses bad but it seems like you know especially with Apple products and items
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like there is this sort of community around using the same thing it just
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seems like I would love it if I could shake someone's hand and we exchanged
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contact info I'd also like to see so much potential in the social realm for
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this like as much as I see it as being a social norm disruptor and have a lot of
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thoughts about that but I think like for me I also want to ask that like I go to
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a party or go to a meeting and it tells me who that person is again a lot of
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privacy concerns about that but like I would love it if I'm at CES serb some
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conference in some income that's why it's so great to see you that persons
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wearing an apple watch I'm wearing a nap or watch couldn't it say oh yeah that's
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right it seems I mean there's a lot of privacy concerns but just like one thing
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that I could really use in my life
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yeah I don't know there could be some kind of way where it would be sort of
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like airdrop where with airdrop you can say only or you can say everyone and
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of your you know you're at a conference or or a post them vent press thing
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your mingling but you know you wanna meet people you could set you could
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change it to you know open to anybody and then turn it off or even they could
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even be like the sort of thing where it would it would say like hey for how long
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like maybe for the next two hours and then go back to being contacts only
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seems like you know like airdrop shows how you can kind of salt that sort of
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issue though where ya you know you may not want to be open to the general
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public all the time but temporarily might want to be actually at the Apple
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watch launch of an enlarged yet but I forgot his name somebody somebody
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air-dropped me a photo of them playing with the new MacBook and it just like
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showed up cuz I guess I had my thing on everyone and I wouldn't think about it I
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accepted it like it's like someone so once they are drop you a photo and
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accepted it and it was fun I mean some ways I could see like I didn't really
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know what I was gonna get before it opened its so yeah but it's definitely
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my deep thoughts on that
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using fracture it really has reminded me of how much I like having my pictures in
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back what are some of my just said earlier in the show he's eleven I was
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still shooting film ten years ago I didn't really switchover to digital
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photography until 2006 or so and we were just looking through a photo album
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got some kind of magical machine that prints photos on glass and so if you end
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your desk that's just the glass with the photo on it like the way the Retina
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screen door laminated 22 your devices and it comes in this great cardboard
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shipping containers that as you take them apart what's left is all you need
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to prop it up like an easel on your desk or shelf or with the stuff on the back
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frame to put a frame around it it's just border to border no frame it just looks
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it's just a perfect photo edge to edge with great quality super great color
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Mother's Day I told my mom that after we got married this year that pretty much
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for the next ten years she was gonna get photos from the wedding
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year it is a surefire mothers day gift for any it really is so this is like a
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great way it's like here's the photo he gave you for your birthday a couple
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months ago but now look at Sunglass they actually want to get one for my office I
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really really pretty so one of the things that struck me about your review
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so talking about the watch something that but something that I couldn't test
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I know I just because I don't know but how accurate some of the heart beat like
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the heartbeat stuff is and I thought that was really interesting because you
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have a dedicated heartbeat monitor that you just wrap it around your chest and
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then you can wear when you work out and and you've done tests before for the
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journal where you you but what was your conclusion of the closest thing you've
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seemed to like the accuracy of an EKG yes so couple months ago I did this huge
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project and I'm actually like so happy I did it at the time no one really cared
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but but now that it was it was actually really looking back on it was something
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I'm really happy we did I looked at it was when the Microsoft ban came out
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bases his band had just come out and it just like I kept getting these readings
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are like yeah I am certainly don't think my heart rate is at a hundred and twenty
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right now is like walking to work and actually have some places like maybe
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there's something wrong with my heart so anyway i I had started testing these and
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so I went to my my general practitioner who actually happens to also be a
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cardiologist and she did a whole full heart rate work hard work up and turns
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out I'm perfectly fine which is very very good to know and she also we also
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did an EKG where you run on the treadmill and have all these electrodes
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that's the right term
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hooked up to your chest and your back and yeah I think that sounds about right
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anyway so she she had that right into that was sort of the constant and I then
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also used at the same time compared the Microsoft banned the basis of and apolar
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chest strap monitor and I believe the Fitbit was the other one that I do you
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should pull up this article and you know found that one of the things we found
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across all of them was that just it took them quite a while to catch up to what
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my heart rate actually was and so that was kind of the problem that I was
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seeing what i do these irregularities know if it would say 120 beats per
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minute that might have been where I was actually like 10 minutes ago or 20 like
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you know it just wasn't catching up in real time and so really I you know sort
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of called out these companies are saying this is not an acceptable like we
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shouldn't be you should be surfacing information to people that just isn't
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right and so the thing that did come the closest to the EKG was a polar chest
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wrap monitor the actual one right now it's the hd7 which works with their
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polar lipid band and so that was like really really really in line with what I
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was seen with the achy ekgs and so when I was testing the Apple watch I compared
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the Apple watch during a cycling class and during a few runs to that same
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bowler chest strap monitor and found that during during those workouts it was
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actually really in line it was only a couple beats off you know usually in the
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range of 5 from the polar and so that was that was really impressive to me at
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really good fit with the sport band on they also say their algorithms are sort
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of working to flush out things that might not be right and so that you know
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also when you're working out it's constantly taking the heart rate versus
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notice attempts at look down and see you know glances and see ok my heart rate
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my resting heart rates around 55 beats per minute
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quickly now so it could be higher but yeah i mean that was something I wanted
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to make sure was was right and I think Apple did a really good job of getting
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that aspect right i think im in bad shape because mind usually around
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seventy which seems high for a resting pulse it so I think that's ok I mean I'm
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I'm fluctuates throughout the day on normal from sort of being 5280 something
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on a lot of 6968 just went down relaxing a relaxing yeah I mean I need that was a
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big thing for me going into this because I have been looking for a device that I
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can wear all day long and also work out where and so yes you've got a switch
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this band which is a little bit annoying especially given what I talked about
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with my sport band thing but that's i mean I can't say that's going to affect
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too many people you know Apple seems to get around in my big thing with the with
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it is just not doing enough with that data yet and that's I think we're the
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potential of the platform as we can go there I think we should talk about it
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I'm not into fitness and combined with that even just little things like with
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this stupid I think I've got until I see interest until yesterday I was
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restricted from any kind of vigorous workout likes all I could do was allowed
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to do is walk which is one of the activities you can do and I do realize
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you know whether you're older or or you know you have other conditions may be
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you know outdoor walk is the most vigorous thing you can do so it's good
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that it's on the watch but it really felt like as a reviewer I was very low
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credit to it as it has device by going pro people got right now but I know
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there's more I could have done i'm looking yeah yeah I do feel I feel like
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it's not just lip service from Apple that they took it seriously as a fitness
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device like I feel like them billing it as
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as a full one-third of their primary use cases for it they're totally serious
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about it but I couldn't be more serious that it's not just a watch that happens
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to do some of the fitness stuff haphazardly like they are dead serious
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about common you know even if the main thing you're looking for is a fitness
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tracking device Apple watch is the thing that you should get something you should
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consider yeah and I and I that's something I shared my review you know I
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everyday fitness tracker throughout my day but also for these exercise classes
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that talk shows usually riddled with ambulances one of the new york we have
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not been able to open the windows here for months and so the windows open and
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I'm not closing it but yeah it's a may 18 yeah it's happy to say can actually
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live a decent life right now in New York without it being freezing cold we open
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wearing coats and write it up I think some of the interesting stuff that Apple
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have friends who are serious about both things and they use you know whatever
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devices they do use they do things where they get like a map that shows them
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exactly where they went it was that important to them and anything that
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doesn't GPS isn't gonna replace what they've already got and that means that
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they're stuck still carrying their iPhone around with them in if you're
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already carry your iPhone around for your cycling therefore you're running
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then what's the point of even having to watch it doesn't do well there's some
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little things right it's gonna give you a much its gonna give you a heartbeat
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heartbeat monitoring that you don't get from the phone but that's definitely not
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but they've tried to do the way they've explained and I don't know how accurate
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how tall you are you've entered in your height and weight it kind of gets a
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sense of your stride you do work i said im gonna go for a run and you do it with
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your phone and it has GPS then you can start doing it without your phone and it
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extrapolates it knows well we know what you know his stride is holly is how much
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he weighs and so it makes some guesses it still not going to give you a map
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without GPS but it's gonna give you a much better sense of the distance gone
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yeah and I found that to be pretty accurate after I'd gone for like last
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in the week of testing this thing all the craziness I like this basically
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going for like two runs a day plus a spinning class which was just insane and
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I found one of the runs I did you know I just sort of knew that how long the the
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pathways and so when I just took the watch on the Rhine experience I have
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talked about now in a number of podcasts and talked about on interview just took
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the watch her on it pretty much very it was very very close to saying that it
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was a two mile run which I knew it pretty much was and you know i just i I
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thought that experience was great because I had just left with the watch I
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i preloaded the watch with a play list which was a little bit of a clunky
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experience but I got it to work I have Bluetooth Bluetooth headset pared to it
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and then I stopped at Whole Foods bought a coffee and water and ran home which
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was like just this really freeing experience because I actually hate
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having my phone with me when I run yeah I mean I've been set up the pieces like
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what I think that Apple much can disrupt like working out as if like what the
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iPad did the iPod dead when we had to run with disc now you know like it was
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used after a run with these clunky things and yes it's crazy like oh yeah
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would complain about a phone we have to hold up on our arm but it is it's it's
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annoying so yeah I was like a great extent that a discman might be the last
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portable Sony product that i've ever bod I think and I remember being so happy
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with it because it didn't skip that Sony had done this remarkable engineering
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that you could go running with the same a spinning CD and it didn't skip which
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was amazing it at those crazy plastic things on the side you'd like in close
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in five guys remember reading about it is this is pretty daring fireball way
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pretty damn in this must be late nineties or something but remember
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reading about how they did it and it was pretty close a little bit of buffering
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and a little bit of like shock absorption you know to keep the phone
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but it was a crazy achievement but yeah I mean even even so even though it
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didn't skip it was a crazy large device to have to to be saddled with while
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while going for a run right yeah yeah I mean
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the phone feels that way I mean yeah it's like that sound like a first world
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problems for sure but it's just nice to have both hands and Mike I mean also is
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the first time I really started running with the Bluetooth headset that actually
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stuck in my ears and using this these beats they called power be the same ones
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they have a red red cable
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yeah I mean I feel I feel like a little bit of a douchebag winning run with them
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but you always look a eye mean there's no way to look at this is nothing you
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can do that to not look stupid you know everybody's wearing tight clothes some
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years now I got the same beats only thing I don't like about him is the
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latency in there but I did the research beforehand and everybody says they all
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have latency yeah exactly I mean like the battery life is really good on them
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and charger for like a week and a half now I mean I guess granted I've only 55
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I don't know it's a fifth 1 I've heard yeah I mean some I want my frustrations
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with notifications is that if I was using mail on my computer I wouldn't be
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getting as many right because if i'm open if I have mail open on my iPhone
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and i'm looking at emails I don't get them on my phone on my watch at least
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they don't they fade to the background you know on my laptop I use Outlook and
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they don't write because it looked up to the the right I message whatever I do
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think it works I think that the running with the you know I'm going for walks
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without the phone and with the Bluetooth and it's free and it's definitely friend
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and and in addition to that and again this is nothing to do with the watch in
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particular but it just happened to you know is the thing that was I have got it
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tested I have to have Bluetooth earbuds so I'll buy some finally break down and
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buy some it would be just as true if I didn't have to watch but it is
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it is as free as expected not to have a cable connecting me to from eight years
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and while working out it's you know a running or whatever it's it's definitely
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it feels like the future they gotta get that somehow somebody's got to invent
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something to get the lady down yeah I mean I think the GPS thing not having
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and watching Microsoft band has GPS and that's what kills the battery already
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the battery life is it takes a big hit when you're working out with this thing
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to me it's exactly like analogous to the original iPhone not having 3G which was
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you know clearly a lot of the the top-flight phones in 2007 were all
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coming out with 3G and the iPhone didn't an Apple ID is one of the cases where
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they worry they just said why they said well you know it would kill the battery
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you know we we don't he couldn't we don't you know we don't have a way to to
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do it in a way that sustains the battery life we were hoping for ya so clearly
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it's gonna come i mean i i would say of all the things people are thinking about
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for future watch provisions GPS I think it's a sure thing but it's just a
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question right yeah so you had here's another thing from your review that was
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interesting to me is that on the days that you exercised their watches battery
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died yeah I thought that was interesting I didn't have a single day where the
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watches battery died but I have not been working out in anyway right so I tried
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to divide up the testing because I knew the last couple of days would be really
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not a good indicator of normal life because I'd be shooting video with it so
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much but the first the first three days I i basically made it to the end of the
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day you know within its a 15% market now is fine by the time I went to bed last
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night a day I did two workouts and certainly had it was it was pretty much
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in power reserve mode by 8 p.m.
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and one of the things I did during my cycling workout with aidid keep the
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screen on for quite a bit of time and so that it really took a hit on it the
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reason I did that was one of the things you talked about in your review
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no because my my arms are on the cycling bike and i cant like doing a glance at
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it doesn't turn the screen on I basically kept the screen on for most of
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the time I guess I was most of the time they're tapping it or it was just
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staying on because it knew it was doing something but yes I like to have liked
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having an eye on it to see sort of the accuracy of it six yet here's my battery
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life from the first few days Tuesday didn't apply because that was when I
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swapped had to swap the first one they gave me out with the second one because
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the tactic and general isn't working so it doesn't count as I finish finish the
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day with like 70% but I gotta watch it like 3 o'clock Wednesday 42 Thursday
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five but I was up until four in the morning and that was a day that I had
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really really like to spend the whole day playing with the watch and I never
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put it in the power reserve mode I don't think I don't know if you can set it to
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do it automatically or not but the way it's by the fault is when it gets to 10%
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it gives you a tap and a scary warning and it says you're down you know your
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battery is almost out you wanna go to power reserve and I said no and it still
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only got 25 when I went to sleep Friday it was over 50% Saturday 37% sunday
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which was Easter which I say I spent with family but I used it a lot I was
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testing it so down to 27% oh I think he's driving directions on Sunday to all
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the brightness that you keep it at I haven't change the brightness so it's at
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the defaults yeah yeah I mean now here's the big do you have a thirty eight
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millimeter one and I have a forty-two man apple on their website
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even says that they they're listed battery life is for the 38th and then
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they say in small print at the bottom of the page that the 42 she gets longer
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battery for the obvious reasons really I had not even heard that before that's
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crazy yeah you know jeff Wyler who also reviewed journal I think he also said
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the same you know last through the day but yeah i four most days from me that
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that week of testing I was down for the count around 11 by bedtime 11:30 and
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then the days that I had done some working out it had died much earlier and
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you know again that like during that workout period which for me usually it's
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a 45 minute class which is looking at the heart rate all the time and I had
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the screen mostly on so if you go to Apple watches website go to technology
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then it says so we gave it a battery that lasts up to 18 hours and then
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there's a foot so here's the foot testing conducted by Apple in March 2015
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using preproduction Apple watchin software paired with an iPhone using
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preproduction software I think what they mean is it was using
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iOS 8.3 the phone battery life varies by use and configuration actual results
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will vary actually they are saying about the 42 here I read that somewhere
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somewhere I read that the 42 get longer battery life that makes sense I think
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because I think the battery is bigger compared to the thirty eight then the
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screen is bigger in terms of needing to light up the screen
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yeah I mean even though I even on their site they say you know six point five
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hours for work out
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yeah I mean it's not abnormal that if you work out more napping all those
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sensors it's gonna take a hit but in short I found that concerned pre-release
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concerns that the thing wasn't gonna get through the day was not an issue
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yes but on the other hand a lot of people have been asked me does your
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worst battery life and I think I didn't do any kind of testing on that and I was
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also complain with periscope so much periscope is it a battery killer Mike
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anecdotally though I kind of feel like my iPhone has been getting worse battery
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life but I'm still getting through the day without charging the I never really
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get through the day without charging I talked on the phone a lot so I'm not a
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good person to ask you are you in Manhattan most weekdays yeah so there
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you go i mean and I've been in New York a couple times the last couple weeks and
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that the last week or two as I was in New York to get the phone I mean to get
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the white itself and then I was there over the weekend to see Yankees game so
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I've been on our end in Manhattan is notoriously bad for your battery under
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phone just because you have such a hard time getting a signal buildings block it
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right and I'm there were like I found on a subway I'm usually like constantly
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looking for those little douchey yeah okay right here right here
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Twitter right exactly so yeah I talked on the phone a lot that's why i say like
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I never make it through a whole day for charge because if I work from home on
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the phone all the time not the best asked yes so it's but you know I think
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if anything though that most people can can expect to get through the day with
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their Apple watch yeah absolutely absolutely i mean and especially like
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there's so much you can do to make it go longer but it's actually really good
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experiment should try like how long you turning down the brightness turning on a
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lot off of a couple of notifications how long you could go with that I bet you
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could get into you know I second full day maybe I don't know it's you know but
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at least it today how how easy it is to have to charge it every night I thought
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about this i mean the question for me is like what would I what would it if it
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was really serving a purpose at night for me I think would be the big
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annoyance like if I really thought all this was great for sleep tracking or I
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really locked out wit woke me up in the morning with a gentle vibration on my
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wrist or something like that but it doesn't do those things so I don't mind
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taking it off I mean is it annoying to have another charger yes between this
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and the MacBook that I was reviewing its like enough with the Chargers already a
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huge pain to me it I feel like I almost cheated cuz when I when I swapped out my
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the first one that didn't work for the second one just say you want to keep the
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other charger you can keep the charger so I charger classic so I have and I
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just left it in my bag and I you know because I was testing it it's on my mind
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but so when I went to to New York for the weekend again
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I didn't have to even think about getting it from my bedroom and packing
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it right but I do think most people would want to I would want to I'd want
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one that I keep in my bed and I would want one that I keep in my travel bag so
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that I don't have to remember like I just keep lightning Chargers in my
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travel bag so I never ever have to worry that when I leave the house for a trip
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that I remember to pack charger for my phone and I feel like they don't want
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the same thing for the watch and the other thing I've been thinking about is
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it comes with a little the little square 5 volt AC adapter that the phone comes
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with it seems to charge like a mostly empty watch in about an hour and a half
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to get a full charge I haven't really time did like from a completely dead
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basically completely dead like like power reserve actually that day was
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well the thing that occurred to me though is that you have to have an
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who knows
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years from now what you'll be able to do just with a watch but for now it is it
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not useless it keeps the time and you can use Apple pay without the the phone
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being in Bluetooth range but most of the south are certainly all the
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notifications anything that incoming has to come from an internet connection from
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your parent iPhone so if you're going to go somewhere with your watch you have to
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have your iPhone with you so I'm kind of I kind of wish the day and shipped it
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was some kind of charger that two USB ports so that you would only need one
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thing stuck in the wall but you could charge both your phone and your watch
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because as it stands are you know most of us it it's another device you have to
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charge of you know
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I mean most of us know this is the same way I feel about the macbook charger and
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here's the thing for me I've and I noticed this I noticed it this weekend
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again at the hotel we stayed at in New York on my side of the bed there was one
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open AC adapter and so you know to plug into things bedside I like unplug their
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lamp or unplug the hotel's alarm clock or something or set up one of the things
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to charge you know away from the bed away from bedside ya know this is
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exactly how I felt about the MacBook Chargers I could you just put one more
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USB port in here
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bike or something so I'm not walking reckons there's no other ports on the
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computer and obviously I can get the $80 dog collar whatever by a bee just had
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another port on that charge and break for my phone or my Apple watcher my iPad
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or my iMac
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a working trip and you have MacBook it is to me it's a very common move which
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is just plug in the MacBook then plug other devices in the USB ports on the
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thing and it's you know one thing is in the wall but you're charging multiple
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pastor charging or whatever you want to call it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean
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i i i jus kinda wish that little metal piece on the thing that looks like a
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heart rate monitor the charging thing you know that think falls off my
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nightstand alot Nilay Patel mentioned in his review you wish she had a baddest
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wish there was some better way to prop up the watch on the nightstand yeah I
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agree I know it just keeps falling for me like a keep every every you know even
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if I string it around the back I guess that's what I should do but if it just
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keeps falling off the front and also again like I like you said I've been
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hoarding this thing all over the place
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alright I found that I will put it out there is a page at apple.com / watch /
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battery died aged him and that's where they say that the all the testing was
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conducted under thirty eight millimeter and this is directly quote from Apple
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AAPL watch battery performance claims are based on test results from the
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thirty eight millimeter Apple watch a forty two millimeter Alba watch
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typically experiences longer battery life they haven't you think I mean I
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guess you know given the surface Basu screen as well and I think it's exactly
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like with the iPhone 6 and the six plus six plus does have a bigger screen but
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it also get better bad bigger battery life because it is it's just more
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important a bigger bigger battery is more important than the detriment of a
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bigger screen to light up
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yes I pulled out my notes here I started charging the watch at 7:33 p.m. and it's
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finished charging at 9:20 p.m. so just under two hours but I had my my
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sixth-grade science experiment we had to do a science fair experiments scream in
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mind I did mine on batteries and the theory I wanted to test was ok everybody
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knows alkaline batteries last longer but are they cost effective doesn't do you
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actually is it worth your money to spend for the alkaline or just buy the cheap
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ones and use more of them and so far to conduct an experiment I put them into
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like a standard eveready flashlight you know like that just that seemed like
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that plastic flashlight and the problem was they all even the cheap batteries
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would would run the flashlight for like like 20 some hours and so it kept dying
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while I wasn't looking at it you know I like while I was sleeping so my parents
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started getting really mad because just to get light one set of data to actually
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is notice when the light was burned out it took me likes like three or four
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tries each
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and I could imagine trying to test something like that it's like you have
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to keep looking at it to make sure if it's fully charged and if you miss it
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and you have to start all over again it's sure I did have notes up to 80% and
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it was at eighty percent at 8:38 also the results of my experiment were there
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alkaline batteries were worth the money so now I feel like getting it out on the
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podcast makes all the effort I did 30 years ago those batteries and see if I
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can put them to take another break and it seems a good time for a break and we
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can keep going on Apple I want to get to the MacBook too but it's still so much
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more to cover with Apple iTouch and it's not going to get another chance to talk
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to someone else it had it for a while so but let me thank our next month's rent
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are good friends at Sharis berries cells exceptional shaving stuff at a fraction
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of the price they sell razor blades they sell the handles they sell shaving cream
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they sell shaving gel anything you need for your shaving needs harry's has it at
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Harry's dot com here's the deal they just looked at it they looked at this
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scenario the same way that would be Parker looked at the eyeglasses thing
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where there's like this cartel pricing or why is this stuff so expensive why
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when you go into a drug store is a three pack of razor blades $20 or whatever the
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heck it cost doesn't that just seem like it's way too expensive and they looked
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at the market and it turns out it was so they started making their own blades
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they actually are so serious about it they bought a razor blade factory in
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Germany to me it just shows how serious they are about it they're making around
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played over in germany at a factory that were making razor blades for a long time
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and then they ship to the USA and then they should come right to you that there
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is no middle man there's no markup for retail you just go to Harry's dot com
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and they sell you played that they made themselves and that's the long-term
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costs because he by the handle from him and that's just one time and they last
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their handles are so nice they're built to last
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they're not hoping that they breaking have to buy another one they're selling
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a handle that's gonna last for a long time and then all you have to do is just
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keep i buy the blades have to sign up for the first you can just sign up for a
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kit just to get a starter thing just to see if it really as good as I'm telling
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you that it is but then afterwards if you're convinced you can sign up for a
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plan you figure out how often you go through blades you can sign up for a
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plan and then the blades just show up on a regular schedule you tell them how
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often you go through blades and then they should show up when you need him
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and you never have to worry about it really really good stuff if you haven't
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tried it yet I implore you to you almost hit you almost can't lose his here's the
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use the coupon code talk show just tal que si Jo W use that code and you save
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five bucks on your first order you might say well five bucks who gives a crap
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here's the thing they have a kid a starter kit that comes with blade handle
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everything you need to get started it only 15 bucks so for $15 kid you save
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five bucks with a coat it's only 10 bucks so that I get 33% discount so you
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can't lose so go to Harry's dot com AJ rry s.com use the coupon code talk show
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on your first order and you'll save five bucks you can get it for 10 bucks so go
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check them out I think so
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now we've got a Father's Day 2009 today's podcast every time I gotta buy
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gifts I've or less than I guess I could listen we haven't even talked about the
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software and I feel like I've barely wrote about I so I like this couple more
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thousand words still in draft am working on its coming out soon I it's there's so
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much it is such an ambitious 1.0 product and I feel like it's not even there are
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things to complain about and there are things to praise it's you know and some
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of the things to complain about are clearly just 1.0 issues some of them I
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think there may be deeper design questions but it's just so expansive it
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is really really it's it's the hardest product review of it without question
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I agree with you and we we had the ability of the pleasure of having to
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reviewers which was a good way to break it up but still there's so much that can
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be written about this thing yeah you guys dad to and recode had to
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but yeah definitely I think helped to get comprehensive coverage from one
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publication cause I really felt like I do just no way I could cover in a week
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here's one of the complaints from your review well I here's what I say it's a
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line that day noted you wrote I love that you can customize the colors and
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details of the watch faces though I do wish you can personalize it more with
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photos or backgrounds and I have felt the same way like I have felt like this
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it it seems like it's it's in contradiction where at one point i've i
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felt like i cant believe how much fun I'm having just playing with the watch
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faces and getting them set up just want and then like an hour later I wish I
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could really cause I wish I could customize this more yeah I know and it's
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like I kind of kept thinking it was like do I want to have a photo of you know I
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don't have a child now I have a puppy so maybe this is a good example would I
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want to have that on my watch like it's now my home screen on my phone but it is
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that something I would want to have on my wrist all day and it sort of
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colluding get like our or at least to have the deeper background ability right
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like I love Thai iced even on my phone I frequently change my background on my
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phone either on the lockscreen Iran on the homescreen why can't I do that here
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I think it's a little
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I've been thinking about a lot and I feel like they I don't think they're
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going to give it to us I don't think they're gonna let us customize it I
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think they might add more built-in watch prices but I don't think there's going
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to be a third-party abilities like and certainly the current third-party
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there'll be a third party but I think I could see down the line
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giving the ability for us to change something from market our camera I mean
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the Photos app is right there
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and in its writing like a Lincoln Burns effect right right right right to a
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little 72 a little Ken Burns effect i've thought it was really important when
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iTunes it's an iTunes alert it's really important new new artists on ideas
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all right let's hold that thought cuz I do wanna I want to bring up this whole
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too many notifications issue that's what's get to that next but also keep a
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watch faces I don't know I feel like but I feel like they're not gonna do
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third-party watch faces cuz I feel like they they want all of the watch faces to
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still be within what they consider the Apple watch brand and I makes me wonder
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about something like the idea of pick one of your favorite photos and let that
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be the background is right there on the line because then obviously then I can
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have control over the photo but they would still have complete control over
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the typography and placement of what's on top of it the time the date whatever
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the style I like where we're it go but whatever
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like here's a night this is Mike now wanted to sign the watch face so my
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favorite one is the modular one that's what I where most days during the week
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and then you know I'd like to change it around but yeah I like to keep playing
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with the design of the module one and so what if you could put your photo in like
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a corner or something like that right
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avatar yea or like it was just a clean design we had the time and then like you
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know above or below sort of like Instagram's new layout after eight where
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you could sort of split the screen a little bit weird habit in a in a corner
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so they could design it really well as what I'm saying I think but but still
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within like the constraint over structure that they've defined yeah I
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can see that I need my guess is exactly what you're saying johnnie I didn't want
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his very very cleanly perfectly designed watch faces to be tarnished by a photo
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of ida now someone's ugly uncle or something
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I mostly just that they didn't want us to to be playing around with it too much
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I think they do when you're playing around with it but it's within these
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constraints of what they've defined as each of these watch faces now there's
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another angle here which is technical which is that the watch
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clearly the display is the biggest battery killer in the lot and they're
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very aggressive about having it turn on and off as aggressively as possible that
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off most of the time you tell your rest I just did as I said it and it was
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perfect it was actually it turned on exactly as I looked at it could not have
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turned on its head again so right now we're however I'm sitting right now is
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perfect posture for using a polite but then it goes off in six seconds if you
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haven't tapped in a very aggressive and it's an OLED screen the first Apple
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device with an OLED screen and no LEDs you no reason for being i think is that
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it gets really deep blacks and the blacks don't require power and only
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requires power to light up pixels in a non black color and the watch overall is
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dominated by black backgrounds and part of it is an aesthetic idea because it
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really does make the display blend in to the entire sapphire or on the sport
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watch class you know it in its inmost lighting it's it's beautiful and bright
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daylight you can definitely see where the displays
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so it's a static but it also technical where these black backgrounds absolutely
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increase the battery life and if you have a photo in the background it would
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have some kind of detrimental effect on that that's really interesting even the
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fancy butterflies and jellyfish yeah the background it's still a lot of black and
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the kind of faith in ya so I can't help but think that that might be one of the
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reasons they don't have that that to me seems like an obvious watch face so much
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black and most colorful one is Nikki yeah I would definitely say so the other
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one that can be colorful I don't know if you played with this but if you go to
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the the chronograph watch face and you customize the dial you can change the
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dial to be like a light cream color so gotta chronograph go to color go over to
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the third third it's the middle one where it says color and if you go down
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there is there's two light ones there's a white background and then there's like
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a cream creamy lady and I know what you call it which is the most lit up I think
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that's the most lit up you can make the display is probably closed with me but
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the thing is I don't think they look I think the chronograph veteran has a dark
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background making might be the most putting colors yeah I don't think that
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they're trying to mimic I think it's the closest they've gotten to skew morphism
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where I feel like they're trying to make that creamy one look like in the aged
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dial from analog watch like a lot of all day you know people who collect analog
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watches the older ones things that used to be white turned to a sort of creamy
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and it's a really pleasing effect you know I statically but its I don't
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somehow falls flat on a screen I think but I think that that one of the things
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dicking around kicking around with what I've got showing on the watch here's an
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example so I got to watch and it's funny because I met without ball while the
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conference in Ireland was going on to to get the review you know and I was
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bubble in my eye but I was scheduled to do a remote appearance with this forget
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the name of it but I'm sure you've seen it it's this it's like a Segway little
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segue type thing they mount an iPad on and then you can control it ago remote
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telepresence robot I had Yeah Yeah Yeah right like the ones they have an old
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commercials we don't have one in our office but I've seen it and other
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opposite sounds silly but it was actually kind of fun and I got to like
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driving around the room at all I came out on stage and and said a few words to
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the crowd and accidentally called to double robotics yes double robotics but
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anyway I had a scheduled appearance over remotely in Ireland and I was awesome I
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thought it was so great that I could put on my watch phase the time in that time
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zone just up in the corner and so I like totally alleviated my anxiety that I was
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going to watch it and to further confuse it it was daylight savings time weekend
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in the United Kingdom which is different than that when when it was here so
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everything was going to switch on Sunday night or something like that
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so instead of being like plus for their gonna switch to plus five I just put the
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time up in my corner in Ireland and I knew that I wasn't gonna be little thing
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and then once I was done with that I had no concern about what time it was in
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england anymore so I just turned out often switch it to fitness tracking or
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something
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yeah that's why I left that modular despite they can fit too much info on
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there which could be distracting people died I love it and I keep changing the
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top left hand corner to either California time like you mentioned or to
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the sunset time yeah that's why I might actually used that now I've been meaning
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to try and get it sounds corny but I also like change them based on my outfit
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like I know a lot of people thought I was being super sarcastic in that video
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and I guess I kinda was but I do like that either the butterfly or the flower
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watch face when I go out
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yeah I could totally see that just because you unless you know like in the
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day time you got meetings you've got things you really do want to see your
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appointment and then if you're just going out at night you can have dinner
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you really don't need all that crap it and I and a couple of days there was
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changing the color of the modular want to the color of the shadows felt super
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corny but it was fun I don't know it's it's if you can't if you're so
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technically minded that you can't imagine that it's fun to do things like
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change the second hand on your watch based on your wins then it's you not
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gonna see the appeal of this device compared to other ones I do I think it's
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kind of fun right I like changing like the blue secondhand I don't know why I
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will admit I don't really use the analog ones to get at me as a big deal and
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because i've i've worn and analogue Dial Watch forward so many years now my brain
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naturally understands time only by
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the hands and so if I look at a digital watch meaning digital like it showing
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the digits because I feel like the word digital watches actually confusing it
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requires long discretion digression but it's like it means two different things
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one in an electronic watch that is digital lead driven in terms of how it
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keeps time as opposed to an analog watch which is using gears and purely
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mechanical nothing electronic but digital watch also can mean a watch that
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is showing the time through numeric digits as opposed through analog hands
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and to me there's nothing at all
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false in terms of like this whole movement away from school morphism about
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having a digital watch in terms of its being electronic using an analog dial in
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terms of showing time with the hands it's just a different way of displaying
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information and when you have these analog hands on that but they don't have
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any drop shadows or 3d effects or anything like that it's very very flat
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and I think very natural but that to me is how I tell time and it's also why I
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like in my review I mention that one of my keyboard I'll often clanton my wrists
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to see the time and everybody you know and I even said I yes I know the time is
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up in the corner of my Mac but it just doesn't make sense to me it in like just
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without having to even think about it way that it does when I get my wrist and
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that's where I think like baby that's one part of the software I think they
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have done such a good job because you're talking about these things that works so
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well for you personally
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which I could care less about I mean I care about you I don't care about them
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for me and I found some layouts that just works so well for me and I have
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also warned analog watch for a long time but with this like it just it helps me
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so much to see my calendar appointments and Mike for me that that's been like I
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can just glanced down and I don't
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I'm yes I same sort of thing yes I get the pop-up notification from out longer
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whatever on my phone but I sort of AM able to budget my time better knowing ok
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add two more hours till I have this puppy training class or whatever and i
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cant even see why I think it shows that people at all especially the people you
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know the creative team behind it
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haven't very meeting driven culture where there's a big company they're
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working at the same time and they have these things like you know design
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meetings and stuff like that I think it really shows that the watch can be set
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up you can configure in a way that really really conducive to that and I
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can also see why I'll bet you're right I don't think it's a coincidence that the
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modular face is the second one I think that for somebody who has a very
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frequently has meetings and as you know a lot of events on their calendar that
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that module one is really going to be popular and I can also see why then you
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would want the time in in a digital form because then you see you see the numbers
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of the current time and you see the numbers of the meeting that's coming up
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and you know hey it's already 10 48 and I've got an 1130 so anything I want to
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looking at my right now there's so many numbers I mean I'm and I hate numbers
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this really funny that I like this one so much but like I've got the time I've
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got my next appointment I've got the temperature outside I got the battery
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life icon 76 right now the Sun sets 732 I love all that information I don't even
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know she could change the color yeah so i i changes today to purple because I
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was wearing a purple sure small things but yeah I mean and as I said I really
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like those are the two big things both telling time and keeping me on schedule
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and as a fitness tracker fitness device where this thing is really started to
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play big in my life over the last week and maybe my piece next week maybe on
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this is sort of about that notification thing and how it found a good balance in
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many ways despite the fact that it's gone off like eight times on this
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and we're gonna get her flowers or fractures something to
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children I want to talk about notifications on this thing because I
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thought that if there's one thing that I saw across the reviews that to me I
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didn't get where complaints from reviewers saying well my risk is keeps
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pinging pinging pinging it can be annoying because they've I think it's
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really easy to filter it and to say I i kind of one of the things it takes you
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getting used to is learning what you have to do from the Apple watch app on
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your phone and what you can configure on the watch alone it is a little it takes
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some getting used to I don't think it to complain I can see why you can't that
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way they don't put everything on the watch but one of the things that you do
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from the phone from the Apple watch out on the phone as you go to the Apple
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watch out you go to notifications and then it just lists all of the apps on
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your phone that have notifications turned on and wet in and you can turn
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off on Abyei basis whether they go to your watch and so every time I got
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something on my watch that annoyed me I would just go to my phone go to that app
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turn it off and said I wanted him no more periscope occasions on my watch
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that was the first thing I did like after I parted ways with a boy had the
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review I think it took about two minutes for me to just say alright periscope
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you're gone I had a bunch of things like that i'm looking to my list now I found
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anything that didn't let me respond I wanted off so for example tweet by
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direct messages I love get a direct messages are very close to text I want
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notifications for them it's in fact the only thing I get notifications from
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Twitter related just because I know a lot of people have like replies
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inventions and stuff like that but you know people like you I don't have too
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many you know where it just in a weird way that we're weird micro celebrities
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you know it's just this sounds stupid but I know I get two or three hundred
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replies a day I cannot possibly I could but
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I mean it would drive me insane if I get notifications but I thought DMZ on my
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watch were annoying to cause I couldn't do anything with them and he can't
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really do anything
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email either we can get to that I find the inclusion of email on Apple watch to
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be bizarre and it seems like something it seems like one of the best apps that
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they wrote it works incredibly well and I feel like somebody really knocked it
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out of the park building it but I don't understand why like meanwhile because
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you can't reply there is no way to reply to an email I guess I can't understand
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you know i i say that I'm being a little bit hyperbolic because I understand that
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sometimes if you get a really important email you might want to see it right
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there on the watch and then you have to do so but the fact that you don't have
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to do something on the phone I don't know there's certain it crosses a line
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that to me it it why I never liked wearing my original people put their
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always got me with the original pebble was I could never respond I always had
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to go back to the phone and every once in a while I'd get you know as I tried
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it it's a life well I'm glad I saw that on my wrist but now I have to go to my
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phone reply like I reply to text messages using the watch frequently its
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voice with sometimes some you know the auto buttons are actually pretty good
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cases they're pretty good right you know you can set that was yeah but the voice
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works pretty well for me and again that is going to marry you by your you know
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your current cellular connection connection but I wrote weeks ago that I
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have found Siri to be getting a lot better
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dictation at very least in terms of you know just when you talk to Siri whether
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it's on the water on the phone
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the transcription happens faster it seems to be happening a lot more
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accurately and it's really pretty good too little frustrating from the way the
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biggest frustration on a watch is there's no text editing so if it gets it
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almost right if I dictate a sentence long response via the watch but it has
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one serious I'm whatever you want to call the typos that serious you have to
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decide whether to scrap the whole thing and start over or just let it fly and
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hope that your correspondent sympathizes and understand right yeah I found it one
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thing I did find see really helpful and I know you can't respond to emails but
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it is helpful like if I get an email that says a company can meet at 2 p.m. I
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have Siri make that I've done this had to make that appointment on my email on
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my calendar through the watch I yeah I guess like it would really be nice to be
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able to respond to those people on say yes I can make that meeting I understand
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why they don't let you respond and they do for tax because texts tend to be one
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sentence at the time and even know our words and even though you might send to
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some emails yes 2 o'clock is fine or you know absolutely or something like that a
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lot of times you don't there's a lot of emails then required even just a few
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sentences and once you get to a few sentences the odds of the dictation
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being perfect are very low and the fact that you can txt Edit you know I do the
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dictation on my phone
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tons too especially on the east coast in winter wear my hands are cold I might be
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outside and again that's what made me write the thing a couple of weeks ago
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about how I've noticed that it's getting better but the thing with the phone is
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if there's one stupid mistake in the Serie transcribed you can double-click
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that word hit the microphone but again and replace that one word by you know in
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unseating much market as clearly as you can
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what that works you can't do that with the watch and it's like the one downside
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to that
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yeah I mean yeah I just in terms of email I have a lot more frustrations
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that go way beyond the reply
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stuff but again I think that's mostly my frustrations with some of the
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notification customization features or lack thereof
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yeah I mean one thing and I and IV set up VIP but to me the IP doesn't go far
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enough right and it this is some of the intelligence and I think Apple stands to
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learn a lot from Google and where I do feel like the missing presence of Google
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on this device is in G
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on this device is in G
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email for instance I mean yes I do get the notifications that hit in like I
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used in box I do get those notifications on my wrists and those those are usually
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really helpful usually inbox is really good at knowing when I like emails and I
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don't like emails you know surfacing ones from friends and family putting the
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other ones in there other filters John if you use it but I find It really
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helpful and then in mail it's just there so many other emails beyond VIP those
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people that designated as VIPs that I want coming to my wrist and it just you
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don't have that level of granule granularity you can't mail doesn't know
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well enough which people I'd like to respond to emails are important to me
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yeah I think Steven Levy had a piece just yesterday where his back channel
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thing and medium where he talked about things that we need like the next level
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for a ride to go is notification filtering its it is it's too it's too
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hard to do by rules and I think back to spam filter however when spam first
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became a problem with email you know like in the late nineties and the way I
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dealt with in a way most people I knew dealt with it is we had a bunch of
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filters rules we you know you just set up your mail client with a bunch of
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rules and there was no I don't a little things like that like if you're on
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corporate mailing list you still have to do that you do definitely but for the
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most part the most spam is already you know there's no way that you can have
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without something like you know a system level above unite your rules you'd be
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inundated and cuz they just isn't it working I remembered it but there were
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you know six or seven rules you could use it and boom you could cut your spam
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by like 90% and it's just not enough anymore and I kind of feel like
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notifications are that way where you can right now it's like we're at that area
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where we're setting up our own filters like you're saying okay I don't know my
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email that's crazy but I do want the people on this VIP list ok they go and
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it's nice I know he me know cuz it's there's always going to be an important
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email that is it from someone already on your VIP list and then you gonna you
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want that and it seems as though there ought to be away for a guy to figure
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that out and you know and if anybody's gonna get that bad if anybody is doing
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it already it's definitely Google cuz that's right right and yeah for sure and
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I mean that's that's like for instance why you keep hearing these things today
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cuz I've been out and about with the with the puppy and I wanted to keep my
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email our talks have been waiting for an email back from from Google actually and
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if I turned on my VIP thing like I don't have that specific contact as a VIP why
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would I write but if i dont if I don't like there's no way to get the stuff in
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the middle
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yeah it's either it's giving me the lowest hanging stuff which is like
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emails from you know general
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wall street journal editors about SEO term words and then I'm getting iTunes
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spam and then I'm getting email comes in from that person from Google and
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immediately on my wrist when I'm out and about in the apartment can take it just
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kicked in as I had the show on my watch I guess I only had it scheduled for 90
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minutes so it's over one of my least favorite things on the watch face is if
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you have your next event as one of the complications when you're done for the
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day it changes to say no more events and it's like in all capital letters and it
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it just seems like visual pollution to me know more about it makes me feel like
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I'm there I'm doing something wrong that I don't have it
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scheduled to have nothing else to do today you can go to bed now I totally
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agree with the notification I want I want I want this whole thing to just
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figure out what I what I want on my wrist and it could maybe use maybe if
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there was a way to give a thumbs down to a notification that gets through you
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know and and maybe like some kind of waiver you can give a thumbs down to a
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notification that gets through that you really didn't want and conversely on
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your phone to give a thumbs up to a notification that was only on your phone
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and didn't go to arrest over this was good I wish that this economy rest and
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then it needs a little bit of that feedback for sure and I don't think I
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mean that's how that's how Google's right i mean they knew they know what we
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favor it that's part of what what they do and like if I move something from you
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know whatever they call it might now promotions update updates is where
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things that they sometimes don't get right that put things that I that are
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important to me and updates in that filter and I dragged it you know they
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automatically start putting things there do you keep the notifications indicator
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on its that red dot the I do but I i this is part of this piece I might want
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to write for next week that thing can control your life
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bike I looked down and I you know it's sort of like that it it to me a variety
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of the blinking red dot from the blackberry blackberry age I was exactly
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what I was going to ask you as a known former recovering it is a new and it's
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like I gotta look I got to look like even know it's probably not something I
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care about at all I need to look no I've never been a Blackberry user but I know
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enough that that the ideal is that BlackBerry's had a physical red LED and
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it would blink if you had new messages and then you have your BlackBerry was
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blinking red you could leave it on your desk or something and you walk when you
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come back and read you pick up your Blackberry to see what is and I remember
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when in heroin BlackBerry users were switching to Android phones and iPhones
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that the thing that it is can I kept saying over and over again as I don't
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know what to do with that red light God I don't even want to tell Apple how much
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more money I would spend for an otherwise identical iPhone with a
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blinking red light right now I heard that so many people and you probably did
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during known sympathizer to the blackberry addict cause I can see why
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though now with this watch like I still have it on but I'm thinking either way I
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still think that red light on a on an iPhone would save a lot of battery life
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I i see the appeal of it to me it's the exact equivalent of the the ringer
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switch on the iPhone which most phones don't come with Android phones don't
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have a dedicated on offering her switch and I don't know what I would do without
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that I love my ringer switch it would drive me in fact when I do try using
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phones other like I have the the 2nd gen motox here
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honest-to-god I think my single biggest complaint about it is that it doesn't
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have a ringer switch above and beyond all of the things that I'd prefer about
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iOS vs Android and
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physical hardware of the phone at at receptors thing that just drives me nuts
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is i cant to silence it without turning it on and I know that there's a quick
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way to do it from the top you go down and it's a couple of taps but I'm just
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addicted to the way that I can just turn it on and off without even looking at it
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and to me in that same way that's what the blinking red light on the blackberry
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was it was a way of saying we're just going to put this on the device we're
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gonna make it a hardware feature not a software feature that you can tell if
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there's something no I don't think I've ever used my god you crazy do you leave
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it on and you leave it off so you always have sounds coming from your iPhone I
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would do in like going to something that I use it just silence I keep its silence
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because I just feel otherwise I feel like I'm getting bombarded with sounds
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all the time I like to have it off I mean honestly you know and i really
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wanna check it I use this to check to make sure I'm getting my alarms going
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off in the morning
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well see thats you know not everybody is addicted to everything right it's like
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but to me like it's incomprehensible to me that every phone doesn't come with
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this which like this and I think it's by as a time has gone on is my least
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favorite thing about the current generation of iPad where they got rid of
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that switch and I know other people use it was like you can trigger it on the
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iPad's to be either a rotation lock whereas a lot but I kept it to sit
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that's what I used to use it as I still kept its outlook yeah I mean I hate this
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little red button but I hate I love it also I gotta turn it off I think I kind
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of think I'm gonna end up turning it off in the long run and just
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I just checked by swiping down to see if there are notifications that i've you
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know there are still pending
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yeah I mean that's like one thing to this
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have to clean these all out but this this and make that notification tray on
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your phone does right I think so except the one on your phone can have more
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because some of them don't go through I wish there was a way to clear these all
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your is forced touch it is this a secret for such yeah my god this is the
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craziest thing to me the greatest touch is secret for stat sheet is like a mind
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bending thing I've just changed you find things that are just not you would never
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have known you would have never thought to force touch on that menu I never
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would have thought to force touch on the notification and you just like I was on
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the verge passed last week would have never thought to force touch on the
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emojis to change you can change like the the Pacman smiley guy to a red red faced
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change the hearts to program you can get a Purple Heart on this thing that is my
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tip I know that it's you know ten days away
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tend two weeks away from everybody out there getting there a polite as my
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number if there's one thing I remember from this episode of the show when you
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get your Apple watch its don't forget to try for step everywhere you go
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know everything just forced at every single thing on on the course touching
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Notification Center
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I don't know what they call it if they call it but it would you come to this is
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completely like to come down from the top and forced touch and you get one
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button clear all and they all go away so let me tell you this I'm so addicted to
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that I started doing it on my phone because one of the things that and its
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longstanding complain a lot of people have it on the iPhone you can't you
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can't clear all of your notifications you can only do it a priority and clear
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again and then you have to the next exit unclear so I just I've started forced
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touching my phone
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thinking that I can clear off because I clear all on my way we're pretty sure
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first touches coming to the phone right i mean it seems like yeah but I really
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here's the big we could go on and on about this but here's my my question
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about it with the phone is we have 22 devices with forced to attend
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i wanna talk to you about the MacBook too and we can get to it there but we
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have the new MacBook which has the first touch trackpad and we have the watch
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which has forced touch screen on the watch forced touch it the whole screen
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is just effectively about it doesn't matter where you force touch it's just a
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it's either forced a poor not a four step and that's it
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a regular tap has location like a touch screen if you tap hard it's just a
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four-step doesn't matter where so you can't force tap on a thing on the watch
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and I think that makes sense because it's so small on the trackpad obviously
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it's very very precise and you get you get the tactic feedback exactly where
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your fingers so I think it's definitely coming to the iPhone I think it's coming
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to the iPad eventually if not this year it'll be just one more year but my
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question is is on these phones and tablet is it going to be like precise or
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is it going to be like the watch where it's like you've just for stopped and
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that's it and it doesn't matter where your fingers on the screen I think it's
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gonna be person depending on the screen size right I think like the MacBook you
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can for such a network right and that's very precise so I could see that also
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being an option on and on the iPhone right like if I force touched on instead
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of double tapped on a word maybe something else when I definitely wanted
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to work that way I wanted to be like precise so I can put up on a word but I
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just wonder whether I'm setting myself up for disappointment because
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engineering wise like it can they can make the trackpad so that the trackpad
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isn't underneath the trackpad is entirely set up as a haptic feedback but
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they may not be it because of this the phone all there is a screen effectively
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they may not have room to make the whole thing
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you know precisely tactic I don't know I might be setting myself up for
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disappointment there so I'm not letting myself get I guess now that I think
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about it too but yeah it's certainly I would be very happy to force touch on
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the notifications clear all right you know what I B also really happy for
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Apple if you are listening to this podcast I want to force touch and
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control center on the wireless command the little wireless circle and I want to
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go to the settings menu and there I want to be able to the wireless settings menu
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and I want to be able to get to wifi ok I see that's a request you go from
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control center for studies on the
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I hate that I can't get to settings from control center I see what you mean where
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you just i wanted to talk on and off but do it to a force touch on it and then
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jump to the settings for Bluetooth yes that is it that is why would I will be
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berry berry I would be so happy and then you can do it like with all of them
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because you knew you could do it with do not disturb instead of just turning on
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or off you would jump to your do not disturb settings and you could change
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like the time that I mean most of the time and I'm turning on and off wifi
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it's true I'm I'm just getting on my home network or whatever for some reason
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I turned off wifi or something someplace and I turned it off but a lot of time
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I'm also going to someplace and I want to get on a new wi-fi network and I just
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want to get to the wireless the wifi settings and it's a whole other step but
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gotta go into settings and I gotta get wifi and yes I know cry me a river its
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wanna talk about the new MacBook you have any doubts that you must talk about
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I think we could easily fill up our remaining time before we get started
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with either let me just think he's still sleeping he's been sleeping the whole
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podcast at how bored he has a
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Chester and I loved him as much as I've ever loved any living being on this
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planet just about and he slept 23 hours I think as a public and even as an adult
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was pretty upset because I thought he would be playing with me stop all the
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night thought so too I've been home for like the last time I took off for have a
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column this week and I'm so call me to play with him all day he sleeps all day
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someplace no no he's a puppy he sleeps all day that's what he's doing and i
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know i think he's got it begins upset No
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that is what they do that's kinda awesome if you think about it they're
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they're living the life did you get the week just to go to go metaphor second
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did you get the week off because you did that I bought review and the MacBook
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review at the same time which I say yes and then I decided to get a puppy is
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like the day after so I barely slept for a very long time but yes I did I did get
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that reason I forget how many words long my Apple watch review was which didn't
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really go to the software and it was still many many thousands of words and
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when I was done I really felt like I need to check myself into a spot or
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something and cooperate and meantime you had I cannot believe that you both at
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the same time people email me and they did you get the MacBook overview and I
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was like no I did not get the MacBook I didn't want the MacBook I'm exhausted
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having reviewed the Apple watch you did both you know that video took so much
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out of me that Apple watch video because I just never thought it would actually
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work we work we spent like so much time thinking about it and then
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I just so many hours editing and figuring out of this thing could come
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together to a piece that people would actually want to watch that we were
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there at the I I was at the office to two or three nights in a row out till 2
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a.m. and then I was like oh yeah and then this is Mac Book Review I salute
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you because I don't understand I did it I don't understand how you did the video
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and I don't understand he did all three of the things and the MacBook she had a
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good MacBook video too but for those who have a washout put in a shallow but
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Joanna's Apple watch video was truly first person she literally put a helmet
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on that could support a look like an SLR I mean it was it was it was a it's a 72
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Canon 7d so no crappy go pro it an actual I honestly I watch the video
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first and then at the end there is like a third person shot that shows you
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shooting and I was like at first I thought it was a joke and I thought know
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that explains why the quality was so great the whole thing is it a day in the
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life of using Apple watch shot literally from the first person perspective you
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know eyeball level and the way she did was by spending a day of her life with a
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helmet with with a Canon 7d in front of her face
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yeah it was insane I mean I wanted to do something different every once in a
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video reviews of this thing I want to do something different and my whole purpose
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was actually to like sort of do an anti Apple ads like this is what it's like to
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use it everyday life and not on like a beautiful white background and yeah I
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just turned into this massive project and one of the producers had done
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something similar and I was like so about this helmet camera
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you think it's like you think it's ready to go and we just did and yeah it was
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really worked well and I thought the other thing to hear the other thing
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though that amazes me and and i think is very slow worker but to me that amazes
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me is that not just that you did this very production in hand intensive video
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and and footage intensive right cuz you had to spend all day with the helmet on
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took a long time to get all the footage clearly took a long time to edit and you
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wrote a completely credible column reviewing it and having used the watch
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myself and watch the video review clearly you spent enough time using the
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watch to form a very informed opinion so that to me is part of the problem with
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these reviews schedules is that it takes so much time with the device before you
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can even start because you need the time to form a genuine opinion understanding
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right I know and I think people were concerned also about the MacBook I had
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the MacBook for two weeks I had to know that was a nice thing about both of
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these pieces I look we could definitely use some more time on the watch in terms
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of the embargo time but I had a week and a half and really hammered on that and
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then also use the macro is my main laptop through the whole thing so I had
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a good amount of time for testing you know battery life testing on macbook can
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take quite a bit of a good amount of time for that your video and click on
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his last hole arias cameo from
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how did the world did you get that alright yeah I mean obviously some parts
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of the video were scripted alright okay people have been like so do you really
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just run into him now I didn't just run into report with a huge have a helmet
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camera and mic was like Rupert can you still buy watch that was scripted but he
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was totally gave it was great to work with on it he was just like ok sure
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themselves like fun he's always
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great sense of humor yeah he and he like we didn't I didn't say what to say was
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just like we'll try it out and he he was the one who really ran with it so I die
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I was like alright alright yeah you can still watch my idea was honestly just to
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run into an elevator which actually does happen a lot I will come up from doing a
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Fox News business hit and he'll be in the same floor and I'll say hi but im
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sure 001 do this
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yeah I mean also I kept joking I can assure you you know it's not the Apple
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good enough for you
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Rupert Murdoch is clearly among the people on the planet earth where the
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difference between addition and the regular Apple is well whatever color I
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like I thought it was great and I really do think it also kind of it kind of
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hammers home the modern the modern version of The Wall Street Journal
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culture like it wasn't out of character I think it's completely within the
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character of the the style of reviews you guys do now but i dont have been the
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publisher the paper you know him famous publisher the papers show up as a cameo
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in a review of tech product I thought it was great yeah I mean I tried to ever I
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wanted every scene to have a little bit of a purpose
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obviously my sister saying you know I can't catch ya you know like fuck you to
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me like I thought that was fun it was fun but also showed like a people are
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gonna be really excited by getting this watching be like making phone calls on
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it and actually everybody so wats funny look at this point it's really funny
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their interpretation of that because I didn't editorialized so much like so
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many of my reviews ABC medical realizing I say bye or don't buy you know this is
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the end in that I don't really editorialize so much and so people have
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had different interpretations of it which is great I've had people email me
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and tweet saying I watched it three times
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and I'm still not sure if you liked it or you didn't like it which I kind of
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love and think you know certainly people i've watch and said I'm definitely not
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buying one and other people said all you made me want one so badly you know
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Business Insider completely ripped off the article and said this is the reason
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you would not want to buy wine ripped off the video I just yeah I've had the
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same thing with my review I have had people I've had responses both ways I
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had people said I was really on the fence I was gonna wait this out there i
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read your review and I thought screw it I'm getting on at three o'clock in the
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morning in other day they go on sale and then I had other people just as many who
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said I was totally set to buy one of these and I read review and buy and when
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I'm gonna wait I've had both responses an outing that ever happened with the
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product before that I can yeah and it wasn't just one or two it was a solid
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half a dozen both ways
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yeah I mean I did in the column I was obviously a little late night I told
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many friends I don't think they should buy this and then certainly many people
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read and i've been getting tons of emails from people saying you think I
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should get this sport version do you think I should get this fans you know
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lots of people read and said yeah you showed me the good the bad and deciding
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on yesterday at whatever yeah you know I got the the steel addition I am glad I
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did but I kind of wish I had more time with Sport Edition but I think I know
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enough and I've definitely you know I've seen enough and I trust Apple you know
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him from that what other people have tried and it said and if the fact that I
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like those sport pants so much that I feel like anybody is on the fence but
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kinda want one just go ahead and get the sport 1 at the entry level price and
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you're gonna get us totally quality device the crystal crown feels great
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the buttons great it's every bit as good build quality is Apple's other aluminum
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stuff like the phones you're getting a totally great man yes it is robert is a
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rubber wristband but it's really really good one it really is so don't worry
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about it like if you're on the fence at all you know
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and you can definitely swing the 350 or 400 for the sport watch just get it and
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it's gonna be it's gonna be fun and specially if you're really just
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interested in playing with the platform like your dear not getting a low tier
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device if you do it but it's hard it is a hard thing when people just want you
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to say should I buy it or not because I do it's it to me I can't answer either
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trash it either and I feel led Business Insider b7 jackasses they're not I
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like to move we didn't like I thought that the consensus was clearly this is a
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they now like the fitness tracking and there's other stuff that is a question
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mark and I thought you know I thought that was the consistency across the
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board that it's you know maybe depends it you know and you're not going to get
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a yes or no
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yeah I think this like Apple's tagline for this was on the money you know this
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personal
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it's very hard to to to review something that specifically fits into that fits on
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your body and fits into your life and it's a very distinct yeah and I think
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it's really it's really hard to do something to to review something we're a
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big part of the appeal is whether you just think it's cooler not fun so I told
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you know I had to try it and is only a few stores that take there's not that
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many stories to take a pay but every time I use it at Whole Foods every
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single time the cashier notices and I'm not doing it in an ostentatious way if
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anything the introvert in me is trying to sort not hide it but do it is served
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as possible and I paid without my phone
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the phone first came out
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but nothing like with the watch with the watch every single time they're like oh
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my god did you just do what I think he did and I say yes and then they're like
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how did you know some of them know that the watch is now yet they say how did
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you get it
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others I had a cashier at hope you two had no idea what up a watch was all she
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said was did you to pay with your watch and I said yes and she goes that is so
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cool and Jamie I could tell she did not know that it was an apple what she did
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know the name it all she knows that I paid for my groceries with my watch and
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she said that is so called the I found the same thing but i doin read the woman
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behind the counter was like that's an apple watch and to me that showed the
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power of like how the excitement about this thing I'm buying 1 I'm buying one
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and it but you haven't seen it so I'm buying you but you don't know about it
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you know and like she just was in awe that she said she was buying it and of
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course it was like the first time I tried it there so I wasn't really sure
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how to get up a working now obviously have no problem I didn't this and other
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things like not totally into it if you got a press the button twice so I did
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this I here's what I did is the first place where I used to the Apple pashley
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mother's day gift early and get a new iPad it was a long out of wanted to so I
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used a paid to pay for iPad from my mom and I didn't know how it worked and I
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didn't want to look it up I've really wanted to try to figure it out on my own
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and I knew that I'd figured I had configured the thing you go through the
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phone to set up a credit card it doesn't just transfer your apples your existing
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cards over because it can't because when you set up a device for Apple pay
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its per device that part of the security the privacy / security of the way I hope
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it works it's per device so in the same way that if like you replace your iPhone
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if it breaks and you replace it and you restore from backup you have to set up
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your cards again because it's not part of the device storage where Apple
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pickets toward you have to set up your watch the same way you do that though on
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the phone through the Apple pay up he said when I had a credit card and you
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can add the one from your iTunes account very easily or you can take a picture of
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a car just like when you set one up on your phone but it's different you can't
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just you don't just get the ones that you have in your past book on her phone
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know how to set it up and I remember from the event is something something
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about double clicking the button but I figured that was how you confirm it I
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thought it would be like the phone with the phone you just wave it and then it
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says okay you want to pay this and then you do the touch idea goes through so I
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figured I'll just wave my watch at that thing and it will come on and then I'll
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double tap that button and the clerk at the Apple store was like holy cow how
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did you get that you know it was you know I you know a little bit like a jerk
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and I wasn't trying to let you know if anything again the intervention me was
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trying to like you know let's keep us down I'm allowed to use it you know
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you're allowed to do it they want you to try but let's just keep it between us
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and you can tell everybody that somebody with a watch but at John I hate to cut
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you off right now but my puppy just pooped on the iPad please go over so
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proud of him every time I will be back in two seconds don't edit this out
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donated this after I was so great
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yeah it's it's a big moment when this happened that's it's actually really I
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don't want to say it to my house so here's but I think he did you know how
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can he be doing a few is only if he's only been with you a week how in the
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world is already being he's been in here he's been with us for like three days
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listening when you've double tapped where's your phone is always listening
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little different but then once you know it isn't an often take authentication
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hold down touch I D right and watch it's just a double tap and so this you know
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flipping your rest upside down but it's so brief and it's so quick it's I've
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promised to touch idea now I don't know if it's just a couple you know now
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they've been using it so much it probably my son you know I think hundred
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times a day whatever that it that it seems faster than using my phone I mean
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also obviously not to pull out in front of that process is much faster as well
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thing where people see you doing it in public and then they want to buy an
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a single thing on it you need me at the wrong question to ask and apple pays
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they suck it they're really really slow
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I actually wouldn't know never really waited for one of them to let I have you
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ever gotten to the load I got it to load I never got it so I got it to load one
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time and then didn't do anything and I talked to Neil idealize said he was
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getting into work one day but it didn't tell him which side of the building it
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thought he was on and the guy came to the you know the other side of the
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biggest the verge of the front entrance in the back entrance and the guy was
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waiting at the other side because it just you know where is using her phone
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it tells you exactly where it thinks it's gonna pick you up but everybody
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else I know it's like I i cant believe that they published the apt I know that
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they wanted apps in the App Store so that those of us with review units could
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have some to try but I can't believe the other one got through like nobody nobody
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gets it to work it just sits there ya blue and that actually is another thing
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these apps cause I found my I hate the screen I hate that screen I can never
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accurately touch anything on here the digital crowd is really not very useful
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to me to be honest and so I just took off most of the apps on here that's an
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interesting it's an interesting complain and I feel the same way I feel like it
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is really hard to tap an individual icon in the weather its first party or third
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party whether it's one of Apple's or not I kind of wish that the defaults size
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for the icons would be a little bigger like you can zoom in and zoom out but
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when you're sort of their sort of -ism defaults eyes where it settles in that
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and I feel like it shows too many apps as opposed to showing fewer bigger apps
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to make them easier touch targets I i still if I delete ones why wouldn't you
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just become bigger you know as you delete these little icons they don't
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become bigger I just wish that as you zoom the crown that you could stop at a
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bigger spot and then it would seem as opposed to you you make him a little
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bigger and annually and you just go and let go and it just settles back totally
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agree totally agree
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yeah I can't help but think they're going to have to address this it's
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really it's it's just to finish it and it comes back to stuff that Apple even
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bragged about with the iPhone where where they measured you know optimal
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touch sizes for average fingertips and then you know knowing that the original
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minimum you know touch sizes forty and you know two different buttons should be
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at least this far apart to avoid accidentally touching one when you meant
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the other and all those details of how many pixels it was and now with the
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retina screens at all in points which are double the size but you can just
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deal with them the same way you have to be a developer designer to care about
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the specific numbers but as a user all that meant was when you use an iPhone
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the thing you thought you were tapping was the thing you were tapping almost
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every time whereas on ya and I thought you know I thought this might be a
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reason to get the bigger screen but it sounds like I mean it also seems that if
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you have a bigger screen you got bigger fingers but those such targets aren't
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even any better on the big screen
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yeah I don't think so now that doesn't mean know that there isn't an easy way
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to launch some of these apps because one of the things that I don't think Apple
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is emphasized enough is that from the regular watch face if you have a
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complication up you can just tap it to go to that app so I always have the
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temperature up on all of the watch faces a used in a fight app the temperature
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from my watch face it jumps me to the weather app and it seems as though the
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touch target for that is it like the whole corner it's the whole corner of
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the display and it always works I don't miss it and I never tapped the wrong
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thing and get something else whereas from that that's how I get to my
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activity app I don't even know I don't even know if they're calling out the
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home screen I maybe they are but I don't even think of it as the home screen and
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I made it I one of the things you have to get used to is as an iPhone or iPad
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users you think of the home screen as the thing
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where you hit a button and you see all your apps and then you that your home
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screen to me the home screen on the watch is the watch face and you can
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figure that the way you want it with your most used things and you launch
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things there and the home screen on the watch that when you launch the app from
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hate to say it cause I think you know it to me it's like the Android all apps
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screen I was just thinking the same thing it really is it's the yet it's
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like I tap away that's what I don't like the digital crown I just feel like I
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wish I could map that button to be something else instead of going to the
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on your apps yes I don't know it's like I see why it's there and it's I just
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wish I could make them bigger and it is an interesting way to just say ok here
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is everything else i mean and that's the design of it the way they don't even
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organize them into pages I kinda like that I kinda like that you don't have to
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organize it I feel like Italy fiddling with the exact placement of which
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chapter on which screen on your iPhone can get old after time I kinda like that
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it's just this big lobby thing that you can go around I could actually see that
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even working on the iPhone at least as an option might be that everybody's
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muscle memory is so much that they can't just change it to be like that for
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everybody but as an option I might there might be an interesting way to do to get
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your apps on on an iPhone my favorite thing is like I just it it it makes me
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wonder like didn't like who do they think could when you hold down to delete
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an app you get the tiny little I mean like the video like this for people with
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really small doll thinkers like how are you supposed to delete that like you can
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you can hit it but it's your really holding your watch up close your face to
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delete this that's one of the features were you can do it both from the watch
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and from the on the phone and I kind of feel like maybe they should have made
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that just a
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a just a phone on me and there's other things to wear the top targets to me are
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are pretty good so like when you're picking a button like you're texting
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with somebody and you're like reply and then gives you a bunch of options to
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choose from like Yes No
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ok absolutely those are generously sized and I you know I don't find myself
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missing tapping on them I feel like they're big enough but these little app
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icons on that plunging screen to small aesthetically I see why they did it but
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it's why I really can't believe that it passed their own internal use and what
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the third party apps is this the way that they were going to go into
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technical details of it but they're they're not really absurd called watch
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kid extensions and you have to have that app on your phone it there's a real app
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on your phone for every one of them there's no such thing yet as a watch
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only the third party so it's running on your phone you can optionally for any
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app on your phone that has a watch cut extension you can choose whether it is
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there or not on your watch using the Apple watch out on your phone and if
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it's there it's there but then when you run it it doesn't really run on your
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phone it's not executing code on the CPU on the watch I mean it doesn't run on
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the watch it doesn't execute code on a watch it
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transmitted over Bluetooth to your phone and it executes on your phone and an IT
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projects these views on to your watch your watch more lessons sorta like a car
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play display except it's only an inch and it means everything has a little
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laggy it is super laggy to load its laggy to get data and it even like
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button pushes are like yeah and I'm not even just to meet the glass going to
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classes and even the glances like paging through the atlantis yeah because
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sometimes they're not loaded yet but I do you use the glasses I do use the
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glasses that's the other thing that I feel like keeps you from going to that
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app launching home screen is for the stuff that I do most frequently I just
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go to the
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pants yeah much heart rate and then the battery life yeah what about the now
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playing now playing is pretty cool yeah that's why I mean I guess when I'm
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should be third party apps for it at all yet
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yeah I mean I to be like that was a thought I had early on when I got this
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thing was I just could not believe how much Apple was trying to do with it in a
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first generation product certainly ambitious but it's just a lot and it's
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very confusing I mean it takes a little bit of time a couple of days to figure
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confusing it to me it's disorienting it first
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whereas confusing to me implies that there's no logical layout to it to me
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it's like it's like you're in a well laid out building but it's a big enough
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building it's gonna take you a couple of days to figure out your way around but
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a good way but there's no question about that when you first rapid on your wrist
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it is disorienting and you're like how in the world do i turn this off and it's
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around though the watch on your phone and it's it's confusing well I just said
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confusing so maybe this confusing I do me the biggest source of confusion is
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the stuff that was on the phone to control the watch and what's on the
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watch itself that took me a long time and you kinda have to learn it on a
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yeah yeah i know i mean it's funny it's like the companion app I did not talking
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talking about but it really that's what you've gotta live in the first couple of
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days when you're first setting this thing yes absolutely
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like it's you know I think it's going to stay on your first iPhone home screen
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but it's definitely should be on your first iPhone home screen when you're
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first setting its online yet it still is
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yeah there's other cool stuff though they do stuff and again I don't think
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notifications are huge reason for it I I know you know everybody I think I think
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some people it's a big deal but I think there's a reason why Apple is making
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that a flagship tent pole thing that they're not even talking about
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notifications it's the you know using it as a wide using it as a status indicator
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for things like the weather in your appointments and your fitness goals and
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stuff like that and then to me that just the glances where you're not using apps
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you just quickly seen something to me the primary points and then this
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communication stuff who knows we have to see how that goes and then and then the
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fitness stuff definitely but it's it's almost like a wholly separate product
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category right
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alright last but not least the new MacBook yes I probably got like 10
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minutes so that's perfect I think we can cover quickly because it's to me and I i
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thought your review was a little harsh in a way that I feel like you you you
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were in the low down on an overall has a battery life isn't as good and living
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with one port is it seems early like in your whole gimmick of it that gimmick of
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your the conceit of your video is that it's it's a laptop from the future right
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out the ecosystem to support it i think it's you know I feel like what you
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underplayed is exactly how much it's the scenario is like the original MacBook
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Air which to me it's just it's just a replay of that right right except no I
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totally original MacBook Air was even more outrageously price if you know it
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was like it was like over $2000
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true you know I came out looking at there's two ways of looking at it right
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one was the price for what you get and then there was how much does this thing
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push the boundaries of what we have right now and are currently tops so you
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know I was trying to look at it from both of those places on your right at
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the end like I came out a little bit harsh as I think for me there was
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nowhere was gonna get this thing and certainly there are there are definitely
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people I've heard from that said ok that's great it's not for you but I'm
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definitely getting one of the main reasons that I wanted it work for the
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reasons that have pushed ahead laptops like it's so incredibly beautiful this
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machine it just i mean I love the trackpad the keyboard is is nice but
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that's you know just between the trackpad on the screen I really want
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this thing and then they were all of these other things that when you looked
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at it in comparison to what you can get for the price for other laptops it just
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didn't measure up and it was this obviously this push and pull of the
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compromise situation which was the same with their Rancho Mac original air and
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you know both the performance of the battery life and that one port I just
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felt like that is not pushing something ahead and I like to eat your comment was
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you know in terms of looking at it in terms of comparing to the iPad but again
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when you think about the iPad your you take a performance hit doesn't have an
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Internet supposed to have the same performance as a laptop as as a computer
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right i mean obviously those lines are blurring as we forge into this
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interesting area of these devices being both but you take a big performance hit
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on this laptop and it's now I felt it I think the noticeable performance hit
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coming from the air and it's a noticeable one battery life now of
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course the battery life has different things right if you compare to the 11
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inch air it's getting more battery life which is impressive but most people
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coming from a 13 inch air which is very portable for them has the power they
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need were used to all-day battery life and I just was not getting all-day
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battery life I used to use it for years and I cause I'm the sort if if I'm gonna
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go in one direction I like to go to the extreme from the lightest smallest
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laptop I want the light I wanted even smaller I want the 11 not the 13 but I
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think if you look at sales numbers and if you just sort of eyeball coffee shops
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the 13 edge is clearly the the main Apple the 13 inch air is the flagship
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Apple laptop like maybe flagship strong word but it's certainly the most common
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one and it's so therefore it's the baseline to compare everything against
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and I think it's fair to say therefore I think it's fair to say the new MacBook
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gets worse battery life even if it's better than the 11 cause I feel like
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it's it's a it's eventually going to replace the 13 as we gon I think that
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thing that the most a lot of people complaining about it what they really
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wanted I feel like is a ice water and health scenario like you can't just
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because you want it doesn't mean it's possible as I think what most people who
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are disappointed wanted was for Apple does just put retina screens in the
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MacBook Air that I love everything else about my hair all I want is a Retina
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why can't you just give me that keep my USB ports keep my MagSafe charger let me
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have a thunderbolt I dunno if you certainly if you plug this thing into a
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Thunderbolt Display you're screwed because the $80 adapter doesn't even
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have a wonderful and why can't you just give me that and I think the reason you
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can't you couldn't do that is that it clearly is Retina screen stick up so
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much more battery power that the hair form factor wouldn't work it had to be
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re-engineered right and I i would obviously love that product I would love
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that product and it's part of why I'm at this point considering getting a wrap up
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thirteen because actually the battery life has gotten better on that thirteen
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it has forced touch it as the Retina screen I actually think it's a bad
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laptop is it is a better by at some points now than the 13 inch air
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specially if you're not on a strict budget but to me it just it was a hard
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it's it's hard to recommend to people but it is an amazing feat of engineering
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it is a beautiful laptop and it's a pleasure to use when you are plugged
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into a wall and don't need anything else and for the people who are out there and
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I know that people like us like people who really put the machines are don't
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qualify for it but I think the real world there are a lot of people are like
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I've never plug anything into my Macbook and I've heard people who say like that
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they're you know yesterday I returned fire ball but my husband or my wife or
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whoever that they know their daughter or whatever their son never plugs anything
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and they're like well then it might be a great machine and and and that's where
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like people are saying well I don't need that power I don't need it
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well then that's great you're paying for this beautiful design and this beautiful
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screen but you're compromising the power and the battery life and that's fine but
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you're paying more money to get less I'll be less functionality
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the other thing last but not least is that one USB seaport and I know John
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Siracusa has
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teams are truly confounded by I'm not quite caught up on the accidental tech
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podcast as required this but I know he's gone over why not to why only one by one
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and i dont I cannot bring myself to believe that its engineering I cannot
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believe that they couldn't that that putting a second one in would decrease
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you know obviously we take some space and therefore take a little bit of the
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battery space way I just can't believe it would matter that much for something
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that clearly is a pretty small part I think it's a philosophical thing where
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they philosophically wanted to make it like the iPad where there's one port
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and the downfall of that though is that nobody has ever grown the habit of
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charging devices from their iPad and the iPad gets longer battery life too
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yeah I mean just just by the nature that have we use it right like I don't charge
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my ipod every day because I don't live on it every day I mean I charged every
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couple of days by my nightstand just cuz I like to have more power and no I don't
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have different people use USB ports for all sorts of different things I know
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photographers and cameras in there and they're all sorts of other things
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peripherals external hard drives for some people but I the one to me that
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Apple to me maybe is a little bit of denial with the one port on the MacBook
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is and you and I just talked about this half an hour ago as the need to charge
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your iPhone during the day and I know I've done it I've done it when I'm out
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of the house and working remotely that I don't even plug from the train and
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Amtrak if I guess I don't have a working AC adapter next to me or if i dont have
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the window seat and I don't want to reach across a stranger to plug in I
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just plugged my phone cuz I know that i'm gonna get home from to Philly from
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New York with plenty of battery life on my MacBook Pro I'll just borrow some of
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that and reduce my phone and if you're also charging your MacBook you can't do
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that right and there are sometimes I MacBooks already run down and you want
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to charge your phone and you need that second part just as a charter right you
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need this dongle basically you need this dongle to get by with using this one
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again it's like they should just bundle the doc which they're definitely not
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that every day when they tried to get it and the $80 price on that really plays
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into the worst of perceiving Apple because to me it's it's actually
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accurate is is there the richest company in the world and they're torn down and
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they're charging for plastic for $80 thing that is quite frankly ugly by
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necessity right
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takes gotta have to report it like you take
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taken disgraceful little tiny elegant USB seaport and turned it into this big
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white thing looks like you know like something they would hook up to you in a
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hospital with three ugly ports on it or to other ports and one more USB support
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right i mean i i guess i I should have looked at it a little bit closer to the
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iPad and that use case and I certainly think that is the way we are going and
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that's where I think like as we as this future of bombs like that is what our
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computers look like it's like all we need is a screen with a flat piece of
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keyboard and you know and actually it's very close to what out Microsoft been
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trying to do with the surface for a long time now but more and more when I review
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that surface or use that service and just wish it was a laptop so I really
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like the way they've gone with this you know what remains interesting to me or
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you know we don't know yet is what that I Pad Pro might look like and how did
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those are those any different than what we've seen with the MacBook but I think
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it's pretty clear where when something starts as a laptop and had some of that
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tablet functionality or we have that tablet that becomes that laptop where
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the sacrifices are in this case it just seems like we are making too many
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sacrifices to move in and I think for everybody like us and the people who
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listen to the show it is it's a device from the future it's a prototype from
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the future that's not ready for our day-to-day use but it will be and I
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think it's it's a clear bed from Apple that two or three years from now we are
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going to be using a laptop that really is just as much a little peripheral is
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the iPad is right I would I'd love about it is it means like there is this huge
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bright future for laptops or just devices that we can be highly productive
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on that don't work like this traditional computer or laptop we've we've know
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right I mean that's what the air was and that was such a huge step in the
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industry and this this is also gonna be huge step in the interests there's no
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are not going to see a serious or Microsoft or some other PC manufacturer
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taking notes from this and trying to do something very similar great point thank
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you so much for your time
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amazing thank you so much for reviewing so many products in one week
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yeah never again I say never again but of course and getting a puppy in getting
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a new probably the worst mistake of it the homepage best place to read is w SJD
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dot com is that's the homepage for The Wall Street Journal digital team Joanna
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stern some of that I unbelievable timing because I would have wanted to have you
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want to talk about the MacBook I would have wanted you to have you on to talk
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about the Apple Logic I got to have you want to talk about both so I cannot
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thank you enough for your time
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yeah I know I love doing alright good luck with Diana find my own positive
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podcasts or something I just can't find the time it's surprising how hard it can
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yeah good luck with the dog poop
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