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129: ‘90 Minutes or Bust’, With Guest Ben Thompson

 

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00:26:43   yeah I really really mister when I went back to me that's how I got started with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:48   the Mac 1991 even I knew it from the eighties you know having used to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:53   some time on it already you iced I started out with when I went to school I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1613">TS</a>]

00:27:01   built my own PC and actually start a little business underside putting pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:07   together for like Michael Dell prodigy or something but as I put together my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:13   own PC and upgraded with different parts and all that that was that I did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:17   all the way through school and then I don't get a Mac I got a Mac when I came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:22   to Taiwan in 2003 I think that a laptop that I bombed a flake was broke and Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:31   if i fix it can I habit and they did fix in the back and I had in years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:37   ex-girlfriend I don't think it was about that but yes around that time actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:43   it was when the the first like flat screen iMac came out not that not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:51   not the one of the Armed the one where like the screen was the computer is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:55   white and I just thought that was just awesome and I used a Mac a bit in in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1675">TS</a>]

00:28:03   school but I'm mainly the newspaper to do help but but not not much but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:09   thought that you were so cool and i like it so much that I ended up buying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:13   book I don't know what happened in the transition to find that but I was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:18   don't have any way that all I think this project the matter of that was that come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:22   in the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23   thousand Tiger around tyre I think after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:28   and and yeah you use a Mac pretty much since then I was the head of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:35   Mac lab at Kellogg like helping people like actually being a business or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:40   know they provided they had Windows PCs but use a Mac a little more difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:44   and sell kind of Blevins mine when I kellogg to go work at Microsoft because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:50   I was kinda known as the Apple guy but by a woman is good and Windows Windows I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:58   think this is really interesting actually windows isn't that isn't a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:02   as things I like about it better than the map in the wind imagining stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:06   think is really is actually pretty great and actually I've installed up utilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:10   on the Mac 22 replicates called better snapped or other on the keyboard it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:19   pretty great as a free for endorsement the problem with Windows in this is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:25   of counter-intuitive was the absurd situation application situation like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:29   third party apps just all socked obviously the Microsoft apps were good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:34   in much better on Windows in there in there in the Mac but things like I'm me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:40   focus or more like a Twitter app like just all this like basic stuff the map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:48   was even back in back then was cool but was so much better than then the window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:55   situation where everything at best you could find something third party would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:59   be super ugly you know just look like crap and then have like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:03   modernization would be weird that so actually the biggest problem I had with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:08   using windows not windows it was not having a fab switches which at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:13   I told some people that they like toys Ono that's the big advantage has but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:17   even by then for a consumer sort of I was a bit but for personal app usage the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:25   situations was pretty dire even then it obviously it's only gotten worse since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:30   then I've ever used the number of these you 200 and I haven't I don't use it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:40   don't but if I were to use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:41   Windows management utility it's probably put some things in here just another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:46   utility you know i kind of I don't I don't use any third-party utilities for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:53   that anymore but I do kind of agree that managing a bunch open windows on 10 with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:58   the stock stuff it's kinda hard when she used to use this napping stuff it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:07   it's pretty awesome I get told them I haven't used used windows like think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:14   used if like a few weeks contracting job in 2000 I don't know which is which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:24   only available to the time you know when I went right back to do they start they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:32   still have the C Drive RAID like if you buy if you buy like a brand new like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:37   Windows machine is to have a seat driver ID they do I think it might be West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:42   exposed like I think you know your default view in the Explorer is is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:47   like your documents and pictures and stuff like that but that said there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:52   aspects of Windows 8 Windows Explorer out like the actual file management that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:56   that are better than the Mac like the way you can have me maybe it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1916">TS</a>]

00:32:02   power stuff we can actually do the tree like the left and like the apps on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:06   right or you can like cut and paste like just and I think it's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:10   things where it where if you're always used to them finder you would think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:16   odd but if you've used it the other way and I definitely never finish in ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:21   minutes if we get started on finder because I'm still not just I'm still not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24   used to the OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   if you're used to the real finder from the classic Mac OS then it's all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:31   all just thats reaction I think in general it is Mac OS users and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:40   who like the old finder and special finder without it seems to meet tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:45   be more mouse centric in their users of the computer it would get a fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:49   characterization I don't think so I think for some people that is true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:53   like I wasn't and once you learned some of the keyboard shortcuts for the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:58   finder it was it was great you you know just command up would go up a level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:05   command in the list view which is why everybody and everybody smartest you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:09   could command left and right to close open close levels of hierarchy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:15   option command left great to do the whole you know subfolders to any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:21   ahead and you could type ahead to select you still a lot of these things to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:25   but in the old fighter it never scrooge over and you could do stuff like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:32   still can but likes to start taping the first few letters of something and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:35   selects the first thing that matches the first few letters without entering any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:39   kind of command rating you just type it and I learned to use the keyboard very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:44   very quickly and it was always very fast and never felt like I had to wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:48   anything but that's it that's all say their children to users we have you as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:55   my my perspective it is is distorted by having him talk about the find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2035">TS</a>]

00:34:01   special finder kind of it's kind of a multi-decade campaign at this point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:07   think well and we didn't talk or chrome books either doing like what else would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:19   you remembered were you using Windows Phone Windows 95 came out this week was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:22   the 25th anniversary of windows ninety-five no i didnt i dont have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:27   computer in high school so when I got a computer or when I built my computer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:33   think that Windows 98 either just come out it was about to come out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:38   I think I think I started with Windows 98 arm I'd use windows ninety-five but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:44   no I wasn't part of the whole lineup in do it I I was feeling like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:49   following the news at by that point I think I'd subscribe subscribe to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:55   concern computer magazines are so high school I would also like fundraising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:59   drive storage or just in retrospect just got ridiculous but as I was I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:07   described to a few of them so I definitely followed it from afar but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:12   I was not a part of it but I do enjoy your your your YouTube thinking in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:19   response to it it was something I thought was I still thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:24   garbage is just better looking garbage it did it did it did actually managed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:34   memory competent well you know but the Mac at least I don't know that I'd favor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:41   user interface design over at lower level you know Mac OS had problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:47   it was showing its age but I would say 1995 it wasn't quite in the area I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:52   say at that point there were still advantages to be had by having an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:55   operating system that was so low to the ground then there are the memory wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2155">TS</a>]

00:36:01   mean it like that right what I think it's it speaks to how good the user fees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:06   was that I mean I mean what Apple died but the fact that they didn't die speaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:12   to how good it was because the reality is on almost every conceivable metric or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:17   feature angle I mean the Mac was pretty hopelessly behind and performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:23   yeah that was really I think that by 96 97 it was the fact that the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:32   system was so crafty under the hood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:35   memory was all shared was definitely a problem that they knew and as why did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:42   you know that it came to a head that way but next but the machines of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:46   were not unusable they weren't bad I mean you know you could make them bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:51   though that was the one of the things that people got like it if you used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:54   stock Mac does the thing that people don't remember if you used to stock Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:58   and you did not install third-party extensions you would have a stable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:02   pretty stable experience the thing that really kind of did that and were web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:07   browsers it was even the good ones at the time had a tendency to really lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:13   up your machine but the people who complain and say like I had a Mac in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:17   1994 and crashed all the time they installed all of these system extensions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:22   they're all running in the same memory spaces everything else it was more or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:26   less like people were making their own operating system but it's a long story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:31   yeah we're doing everything we can to do not meet you mentioned before let's talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:42   about the topic engine I i think that among the top problems with alcohol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:49   wipes now lo these many months in I think the tactic engine is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:54   top problems and probably the only a hardware problem while no I guess I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:58   a second hardware problem I have a list of three top Apple watch problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:02   one of them is the tactic engine which I don't think is good enough yeah i i with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:07   interesting and i think that arguably the killer feature of the watch that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:12   that was what I miss the most when I was in how the watch for three days was back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:17   to buzzing in my pocket like that was really annoying and so yeah I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:24   fact that it's a hardware problem is magnified by the fact that it's so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:28   think central to the value that the device does does provide arms which to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:34   me is all about is the notifications in some applications arm I have said for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:39   long time and maintained that it was a mistake to wash his hybrid apps like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:43   know I think they disproven user experience but the tactic engine is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:47   great except for the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:48   at a standstill miles it seems to be failing for a lot of people yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:57   that it you think that's true there's a lot of them in stainless steel that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:01   what my my review you know about that's what I mean based on responses I posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:06   my feeling I got quite a few responses in seem to be all stainless steel models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:13   that were having problems and if you remember i think is a standstill miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16   over the most delayed to getting out the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:19   remember there is the story about like one supplier of tapping engines you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:23   they had bad ones so I seems to have been there seems to be some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:30   common thread here involving stainless steel models in the template engine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:34   there being a problem I think I think that there's too many people who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:39   them fail maybe not so much that it really hurts the platform but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:44   obviously a problem and I think even in 12 don't fail it's not good enough and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:51   could be wrong as it was one afternoon eleven months ago almost 11 months ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:58   now when I first got to see that the prototype pre-production Apple watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:05   that they had at the event last year you know six months before they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:09   ship but what I recall from the ones I got to put on my wrist there that tactic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:14   sensation was better and it wasn't it was just it was just more satisfying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:21   felt more like a tap whereas this and more like something that you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:26   miss like they the ones that they had a year ago just seemed to me like they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:31   hit the sweet spot between your not gonna miss this but this isn't going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:36   start all paranoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:39   was just it was very humane is the best way that I could put it in the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:45   if I would if I were standing behind you and you were talking to somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:48   needed to get your attention I could tap you on the shoulder in an appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:51   way depending on the urgency of the matter is this seriously an emergency I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/2451">TS</a>]

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00:53:46   publicly advertises to and when you charge the sort of prices that advert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:51   you know charges people do you know this sort of finicky trying to get one piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:57   of technology to talk to another is just what we're used to and that's acceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3237">TS</a>]

00:54:00   I think that Apple has raised the bar with so many other things in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:06   ecosystem and with the pricing that they charged and the sort of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:13   consumer accessible luxury message that they're putting forth that's it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:19   not acceptable it's interesting wrinkle I will say the beyond the applet again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:25   think I i feel like the fact that it shipped these hybrid apps was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:31   concerning to me as well as well as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:34   like hoop someone she said no to that that that aside the single like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:41   the biggest issue I have with the watch and i've still worn everyday and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:45   missed it was gone by is I do I'm not like oh some watch connoisseurs only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:52   have one Swiss watch that I got for my wedding for my in-laws but I i misss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:57   wearing it like I miss going into like I'm going to a nice story and I can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:01   dressed you know jeans and a shirt but you know you've you're wearing like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:05   nice lots like it it's there's a certain sense in feeling that comes from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:10   that and I don't get that from the apparatus stainless steel with this team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:14   is still bad you know it's you know relatively high model but it definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:18   well I absolutely think that it works a lot better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:23   the impeachment watches agree disagree it still feels pretty geeky and not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:32   like a luxury item even if it's the qualities nice the workmanship is nice I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:36   miss not having that luxury item and i know im wearing it anyway I'ma geek in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:43   part because like I said that I find the notifications and the net or IM or find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:48   that not buzzing in my pocket really nice but I get what they're going for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:53   that I use for me I'm not sure that they delivered on that specific point you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:59   just traveling how do you how do you find traveling with the airport now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:04   great like I said I find it I think it's great because the multiple large faces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:09   you can set like i said i buy a custom watch these just for just for the trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:13   which was super super valuable and because I'm lazy I don't have 0 battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:18   life issues even the flying that trip you don't know if no problem as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:25   battery life goes it is surely if you don't do a workout it is get out I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:32   that it's half great for traveling and half terrible for traveling and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:37   sure interesting so like I i do think that the directions are pretty grade I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:45   never use that because we just had to drive somewhere and we don't have liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:50   it dashboard GBS type thing I find getting the directions on my wrist while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53   driving the car to be just terrific absolutely terrific and i know im [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:57   thinking about it you know that it's going to take me when I gotta turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:02   coming up and I can glance and see it really really liked it for that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:07   it for little things like as convenient as it is if a boarding pass on the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:12   in a way like you said with passbook that it just comes up like knows you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:15   at the airport and just comes out good how many especially your traveling with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:20   kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:21   times your arms are full or you just don't feel like digging through it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:25   it's pretty cool for stuff like that i remember i Amtrak train one time and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:33   have my boarding pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:34   watch and it's just so great cause you're an Amtrak you are you sit down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:38   and you wait and they come around and get your tickets and so instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:42   having to sit there with her ticket our fish in your pocket or something they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:45   just had already right there really great thing I don't like about traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:50   with the Apple what is a really don't like having to set up another charter in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:55   a hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57   it really didn't really was it was like I just give up on a farm I'll watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3477">TS</a>]

00:58:05   every time to just forget it I'll put it back on when I go home because it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:10   got to be too much rain we just had too many you know three phones and three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:14   Apple watches was just too much especially if you are staying in a hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:21   room that doesn't have many outlets are ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:25   most hotels even you know when I get is probably a factor of eight but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:28   even that at two major hotels its heart the one we're at Disney add additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:34   problem where it was sort of a lot of the sockets they were loose and so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:38   sometimes you don't have a charger and then it wouldn't but inside the three so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:42   we did have a tangle of these white cables and it took you just look for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:46   lightning or what happened to be the one day as I had attached it to the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:52   and I went to bed in the morning and it was dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:56   sort of thing and it wasn't plugged in then it was rain it was just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3536">TS</a>]

00:59:01   unplugged in charger and I was like you know what that would put this away where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:06   ya no that's definitely that's definitely a good point I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:11   kind of a one that when those ones that will never go away it does it gives me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:18   his the outside the anxiety a get is then when I don't wear and we're at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:26   theme park and I walk 10 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:29   get any points to beat the game vacations working against you yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:35   absolutely yeah it's funny the the whole like I haven't turned in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:43   notifications off the the i would tell you the our notification to stand up is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:50   really irritating when you're on a plane by Esteban haven't turned off out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:55   some misguided notion that this is gonna you know the area would be bad for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3595">TS</a>]

01:00:00   health to turn it off even though I never listened to it but I think I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:08   talked about this on the show before I think that and again I say this knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:12   that famous last words is trying to tell some engineer what seems like it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:17   be easy to my guess it should be easy but it seems to me like it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:21   possible for the watch to make a very educated guess that you are on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:26   airplane is it in knows when you're at an airport and its good point right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:34   especially if it knows that it has a passbook or called in I was nine wallet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:41   and tree for a flight and it knows what time the flight is and if they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:48   somehow I guess it doesn't happen all altimeter right but there ought to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:55   some it just seems to me like there ought to be some kind of way that it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:59   figure out that you're probably on a plane and maybe it could even ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:02   may be the key to even say are you going to be on a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04   when are you getting on this flight and then not ask you for that I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:08   admit that that is I find that to be terribly annoying too because especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:11   in this you know second third fourth hour flight when you're really starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:16   to get antsy and you're like I just got them playing we get to where it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:19   and then your watches like stand-up move around and say screw you I'm so when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:26   get your second third fourth hour characterization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:30   after my my 13 hours yesterday to Lake the the standing indicator light can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:37   figure out whether actually standing or not either he just goes at the fed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:41   miss the hour no matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43   which is good just kind of annoying when you're walking around it taps on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:46   risk to stand up that's what seems that's weird though sometimes it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:51   to know that you have been standing and it doesn't show it to you I don't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:54   every every hour and 50 minutes I who knows maybe maybe maybe I don't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3714">TS</a>]

01:02:01   there are some times when I am up and I and then it anyway that's the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:08   complained about the airport yeah I think that is where I i for the record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:15   remain remain pretty bullish on it just because I think you know the the arc the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:21   architect is interesting is even when all these apps are coming I'm still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:25   little skeptical about the apt situation I think I'm a citizen the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:28   previously that you know kind of what matters on for one area doesn't as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:33   matter of the next one just absurd matter on the phone I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:36   necessarily a matter for the watch where I think the watch remains super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:41   compelling is as a way to interact with the world around you you know and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:47   when you can start your car with their unlocked doors with it or or identify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:52   yourself with it that's when it's it's becomes just a must have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:56   and really transformed what you do in the meantime like I've been very pleased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3776">TS</a>]

01:03:01   with the notification stuff and yeah I just wish that I was with that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:08   they just intercepted at all but i said i four times and you haven't taken the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:12   bait yet so i know i mean i i I even asked her about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:17   in the live show you know was you know what was the thinking if you knew your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:21   gonna have this fuller St cages too few months later even oh yes announcing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:27   in June doesn't mean it shipping its ship presumably until next month in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:31   September but even so if if if that 1.0 white kid had never existed right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:38   people would be there be some jackass out there writing articles in having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:42   written them all summer that Apple watches dead because it doesn't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:45   third party software but in the grand scheme of things it would have only gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:50   five months without rate without saying something is like in in other reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:56   would have during the Apple watch for it but like all but of course it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:59   rectified soon like that's a very different than like the watch is slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:04   because I if you don't interact with the absent all the watch in my estimation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:09   perfectly acceptable and the new Apple that's not quite so secretive that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:14   that had Jeff Williams at recode conference in late may just say that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:25   could you know coyly say that this ties in with what you want to talk about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:30   cars are the ultimate mobile device you know more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:35   not saying yes we're working on a car but really towing getting right up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:39   the line I think that that Apple today's Apple could have also said at the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:46   same event you know maybe a tree code that yes we are working on an SDK for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:50   Apple watching will have you know stay tuned for WBC next month right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:55   i i actually agree it could have come out you know and even could have come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:59   out maybe it could have even come out at the when they had the event in March [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:03   where you know the second event where they you know she did the things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:06   even said you know and you know state to know BC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:10   weighing in at attaches that but like this is that's what Apple does like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:15   I mean when your I'm sure your priority that one of your what is your best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:20   article is not on during fireball dot com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:23   have said that yeah the way I made that mistake once the macrolide is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:30   helpful roles like their version ones are supposed to be under under featured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:36   like there's there's there's a there's two things that are a product of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:42   measure on one is the features but the other one is is like how done it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:45   completed is in by completing a mean that it fully featured I mean that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:50   features that are their work perfectly and you like what Apple's always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:55   good at is yes well this is a version 1 it's going to be missing a lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:59   but whatever is there's gonna work really really well remember the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:02   one like that that is arguably the most stable iPhone of all right i mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:06   that thing was was incredible for what it was even though it was missing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:11   kinds of white basic stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:15   copy and paste and all that although we cannot name but was there worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:21   perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:22   better in general in Apple's might have to ship without a featured all been to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:26   ship with a crappy version of the feature exactly exactly in and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:32   what's so funny about the watch our concerns me as an apple observer is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:37   me the aptitude haitian is is is adding it because to check a box and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:42   adding us poor implementation of it instead of taking the lumps for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:47   in reviews for missing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:50   it added something in it and a poorly and that's that's a problem it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4010">TS</a>]

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01:20:22   when we tried using this and using spotlight I did have to add using Pierce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:29   added something called flashlights flashlight adds a bunch of additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:33   functionality to spotlight include the ability to like I can search directly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:38   different amines or there's a there's all kinds of stuff it adds on to it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:42   make it much more wants part like with like the other custom actions are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:45   can do but I have to admit I i have been with it for like six months down pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:50   I'm pretty happy with it I never heard of this yeah I could use straight solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:57   I have to have the stuff that me pasting it into their shoulders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4857">TS</a>]

01:21:10   how we doing on time or or running for too long ride an hour and 16 minutes we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:15   have forty minutes technically to do the rest of the show runs but not too long I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:23   really do I really do wanna get your thing on this car thing so here's here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:27   my here's my conundrum in a nutshell with the car thing is the issue I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:32   with obviously there was a smokin think there'd be fire there's two possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:37   outcomes here one is that Apple produces like a normal car which i think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:41   could do a good job in her car in very competitive except that I have questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:46   about the long-term trajectory of the car market particularly the rise of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:49   Cooper and and car-sharing author thing I think in the long run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:53   car ownership is likely to decline which seems odd to watch into that the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4913">TS</a>]

01:22:00   options do the self-driving car which i think is you know he is certainly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:04   directory but then I questioned Apple competence in employing office off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:09   driving car which seems to fit much more googles strength particularly the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:16   the data intensive approach they're taking to it I i just i mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:21   lots of smoke here but it just doesn't seem to quite add up for me maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:28   comes from my legs that use a news app national watch I don't because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:32   unusable either in Taiwan I tried it when I first got the watch and it made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:37   it told me to make to illegal turns both of which will get me killed so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:44   know why I'm baffled about the whole thing to be helpful I'm just so i cant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:49   figure out what I think just a rehash as of this recording we are recording on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:55   Wednesday August 26 show part about tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:59   some of the smoke that appeared in the last over the summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:04   a whole bunch of hirings at Apple that we have spotted from like linkedin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:09   profiles changing and etcetera of car people of various sorts it doesn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:16   matter of people with experience in the car industry or from Tesla from BMW [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:22   what have you and it doesn't make any sense for Apple of hired all of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:28   something car related and then there was the thing who got that scoop where Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:35   is trying to book The Guardian did ya a test track that and and I took issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:42   with it and just my point was that the Guardian's headline was something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:46   Apple you know shows that Apple is working on an autonomous car and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:51   didn't see that as being evident that it was an autonomous car right could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:56   been a normal car yeah and it would people said to me and responses that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:59   it's not just a test track it's like a little fake town this area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:04   naval base San Francisco or something and that it doesn't make sense for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:09   anything other than a naval Thomas car because if you want to test a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:13   car he contested I'm not sure that holds though because I think Apple definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:17   wants testing area nearby so the fact that they could get a test track in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:22   Detroit or something like that that doesn't help them and who knows maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:27   there are some minor autonomous features in a collision detection or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:31   like that they're working on but that it's not really a self-driving car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:34   because that thing to me and I maybe I'm wrong I hope I'm wrong I I think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:38   German cars sound great I really hope that they come sooner than later I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:42   you know it sounds fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:46   it just seems to me though my gut feeling is that way off thats it thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:50   really far off in the future not read it sounds like we're in the same boat here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:57   which is interesting to some people I mean like it seems like we're far enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5097">TS</a>]

01:25:01   out that Apple wouldn't need to wait for that if that if they want to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5101">TS</a>]

01:25:04   the car business and that they can do this iterative get in and start figuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:09   out how to sell them around the country in the world you know get in and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:15   doing that before they have the self-driving aspect down and then do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:21   know and then come out with up to come out with a self-driving car at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:25   time that they would have anyway you know and and on a longer scale like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:29   I was saying before about the App Store for the iPhone that it didn't make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:33   even if they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:34   in a hundred percent internally committed which they weren't but even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5134">TS</a>]

01:25:37   they had been internally committed to we should do in App Store for the iPhone it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:43   didn't make sense for them to wait until 2008 to ship the first one the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:47   is shipped in 2007 was totally worth shipping did I think I'll be told they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:51   were doubtful if they could shipping a car in 2020 that is sort of traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:57   in terms of how you drive it and doing a self-driving car 2025 that's that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5157">TS</a>]

01:26:04   that that make sense in being because I they're still clearly a significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:08   market for for a car now and for all the various reasons like I mean biondi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:14   you know john loves cars but also just from pure finance perspective there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:18   lot to like about a balloon a car and yes and the other thing is if they start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5178">TS</a>]

01:26:24   out with normal cars they could outfit those cars with all the sensors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:29   stuff to start gathering data that would go into a self-driving car like what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:37   know Google mapping cars on the road a broken could theoretically get much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:43   actual cars on the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:44   gathering data improving you know their their data set in there over the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:49   that I think of it as being a multistage process that's when they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:56   satisfactory answers I think you've been productive I appreciate it I just wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5216">TS</a>]

01:27:01   them down but I've had them in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:03   dangerous for me to walk around so now I've got them written down but I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:08   three reasons why they make sense for Apple why Ms financial cars are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:14   expensive and they are big business there are millions of cars sold in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:20   world and they sell for tens of thousands of dollars so that's a good in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:26   general business to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:28   to the market is ripe for technical disruption and it is it's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:34   happening moved to electric drivetrains and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:40   power power sources and the way that dr dre interchanging based on and self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:47   driving as in other areas I guess it's unrelated I guess you could ever stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:51   driving a car that runs on gasoline and you can certainly have a self-driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:56   but that's too big areas though weathers enormous disruption and so it's time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5276">TS</a>]

01:28:03   know the market is obviously going to change in the car markets gonna look a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:07   lot different than 20 years now and that's not necessarily true now from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:11   where it was twenty years ago right the pop top carmakers today are pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:15   the same ones top carmakers twenty years ago and cars are technically very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5295">TS</a>]

01:28:20   similar I don't think that's going to be true twenty years so it's a good time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:24   get in and they get to a point on that when computers come into a new market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:34   and there's the old standbys and then there's the computer companies its the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:42   computer companies it seemed to do better building the new the old then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:47   then the old thing makers are computerizing there things so yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:55   a dream is a perfectly built these phones and pagers and all of a sudden it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5335">TS</a>]

01:29:02   got to a point where these things could be real computers and all that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:06   an arbitrary distinction saying that you know today's smartphones are real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:09   computers in the rim models from ten years ago or not but I I stand by it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5349">TS</a>]

01:29:16   that companies like Apple were better at making phones even if the famously don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:23   like the first phone dropped calls whether that was a tease falter Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:27   fault whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:28   Apple got better making phone antennas lot quicker REM gun building computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5368">TS</a>]

01:29:33   think that the same thing that happened cars computing matters I think Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5373">TS</a>]

01:29:38   going to be able to make a card easier than even BMW or Mercedes companies with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:44   good you know well-run companies with good histories ago computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:49   there's also a third factor is very simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:52   the car market has always been a hundred years and counting and market where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:58   design matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5398">TS</a>]

01:29:58   design matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5398">TS</a>]

01:30:00   and that plays into Apple strength when I just that is without a couple things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:05   out when they first came out I wrote an very similar article like saying there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5405">TS</a>]

01:30:09   actually a lot of things that make sense and I would you nailed most of them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:13   just add from the design design matters perspective the making electric cars got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:23   a lot simpler so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:26   or whether Karzai relative to a mechanical car is a much simpler thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:30   to build motors are much more will unite national car like is a controlled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:35   explosion happening constantly and so that the level of refinement need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:41   build a quality engine and all that sort of things is much different in much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5441">TS</a>]

01:30:45   different skill set then that electric car where it so it's much easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5445">TS</a>]

01:30:49   enter the market now than it was and what happens is you know I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:53   driving up this because that having engine expertise in having know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5453">TS</a>]

01:30:59   build a great combustion engine is no longer a price of entry that changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5459">TS</a>]

01:31:06   what matters the priority so used to be that you first off making a good Angeles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:12   table stakes and then you could get to the quote-unquote user interface but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:18   that the engine is no longer price of entry what matters most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:23   has changes because there there is not there is there's new table stakes just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:27   look at what BMW's names down to four right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:30   the variance motor works exactly exactly and so this is my second point which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:36   that the reason why I think you you said that the list of top makers will be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:41   different twenty years and is today is it's any time because this fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:46   change from from mechanical to electric and get this an iPod Touch himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:49   driving stuff which I think you perfectly articulated is gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5509">TS</a>]

01:31:52   separate event because you have this shift from mechanical to electric it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:58   everyone's starting from the same spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5518">TS</a>]

01:32:01   objectively in this like going to mobile right it wasn't ever like all Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5521">TS</a>]

01:32:06   miss more often dismal they were they were on mobile earlier than anyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5526">TS</a>]

01:32:10   the issue was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:11   what mattered in mobile it was a brand new paradigm being good at the desk top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:15   10 advantage of mobile in fact if anything it made Microsoft worse off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:21   because the temptation to do take the desktop paradigm in stick it on a mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:28   was overwhelming and it's like what they did right Windows Mobile actually had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:32   start by a start button you press the stylist in a pop-up windows ninety-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5552">TS</a>]

01:32:38   menu and I think it's probably gonna be the same challenge with with cars the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:45   mechanical it's not just that the mechanical guys no longer have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5565">TS</a>]

01:32:49   advantage over the electric guys if that they're actually at a disadvantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:53   because they will be much less capable of truly starting from with a fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:59   sheet and rethinking what a car means and if electric start with the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:05   is going to be a car and all that other stuff that has to gym goes away then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5585">TS</a>]

01:33:10   yeah I have you like a 17 screen in in their car right that's actually much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5590">TS</a>]

01:33:15   more important and and I think that's a reason why in these big transitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:21   the big players actually not completely transforming and look at my reasons are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:27   no one they're expensive in its people spend a lot of money on the 22 market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:32   right protect disruption three it's a market where designers historically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:36   mattered that there's the same three things going on with the watch people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:41   spend a lot of money on watch it right for technical disruption and by what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:47   mean by that is that we we've reached a point where you can build a UNIX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5627">TS</a>]

01:33:52   computer that runs in a wide size device which is networked which is a point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:59   disruption to the did you know whether or not you know who knows maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5639">TS</a>]

01:34:02   digital watches are gonna die again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5642">TS</a>]

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01:35:46   functionality or functionality it became a computer that could also make calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5746">TS</a>]

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01:36:07   leaders are the ones about the heart of trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5767">TS</a>]

01:36:09   zooming out far enough to go back and just start over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5769">TS</a>]

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01:38:52   the square into it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/5932">TS</a>]

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01:43:25   timeout can only last so long I have one last thing that I wanted to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/6205">TS</a>]

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01:43:57   Amazon who left a majority leaving at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/6237">TS</a>]

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01:44:25   anecdotal allegations of treating a miscarriage poorly the cancer patient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuy2xIi8/6265">TS</a>]

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