00:00:00 ◼ ► man wanted a crazy we are recording on Wednesday the 16th show up I'll be out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/0">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► tomorrow when even have until Friday so far today watch OS 2.0 has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► my guesses for a few days due to some sort of last minute bug that has popped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/16">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► up in which Apple is not describing it doesn't sound like a user facing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/23">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► those sounds more like a developer facing but do you think so yeah and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/27">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► you're on the GMR if you're on the better you don't have any reason to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► concerned about anything but if you remember last year I think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/35">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► problems with the extension signing and then with the health care taps and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/39">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► took them a week or so to figure those I was I was wondering if maybe it was some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/42">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► kind of bug that affects the upgrade process maybe I mean the debate upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/45">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► worked fine and adjust it seemed more like a knot front facing issue their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/50">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► front facing issue I don't know they're hard to say but you know I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/55">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► anybody wants to complain and bugs happened i mean it's a hell of a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/63">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► better for Apple to find a bug before it ships and obviously it's a long Barisan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/68">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► for them to renounce the dayton and have to make it but compare and contrast with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/72">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► the well as 99.0% one less 8.0 1199 is this year down my mind a member 8.0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/78">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► point one last year came out and didn't bring everybody's phone but for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/91">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► subset of users who are downloading it over the air it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/96">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► temporarily bricked chill touch idea killed LTE so fewer deaths each are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/100">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► noticed no problems whatsoever but I hear anyone else she doesn't get LTE I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/105">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► don't think she uses her phone is a phone i think is a phone call part right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/111">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► butterfingers register what has happened today so I S nine is rolling out as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/116">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► yes and one interesting thing you mentioned before the show started it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/126">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► does have a different build number than the G em that Apple distributed was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/130">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► yeah the GMs forty and the their release version is 44 so obviously had something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/136">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► and something minor at least in their changed so far so good on that from what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/142">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► I've seen yeah absolutely and if you do have the gym you'll get a software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/146">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► updates very small 200 megabytes or content partners are rolling out which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/149">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► think is going to be a major its inner it's interesting to see how this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/158">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► going to be because this is the sort of thing that is going to change a lot for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/165">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► people like me and you maybe I don't know and it's also the only sort of app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/172">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► that you can really look for this I mean last year there was also a share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/176">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► extensions and accidents and widgets and the only really big new kind of app you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/179">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► can get this year's content blockers get featured more than anything else right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/183">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► in terms of and it's funny to it and you know I'll get to it because you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/187">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► written a massive massive review but it does it it's one of those things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/192">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► judge these OS releases by based on even if you just assume that GM's good you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/199">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► know is real it's hard to judge the OS as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/205">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► until after it ships and you have some time to use it with the real world stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/209">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► nobody's gonna really form a serious opinion of Iowa's nine until after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/216">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► content bloggers have come out and people have picked the one day one if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► any and see how that affects their their use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/226">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► there was ways to beta test them before I N but you know maybe you didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/229">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► the beta test all of them you know and you might ask us about the watch to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/234">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► just testing complications and how much that would actually change your workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/237">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► yeah I thought the same thing and I don't have any beta apps I know that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/241">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► possible with the watch so I have been playing with watch OS 2.0 for a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/246">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► weeks now but I haven't written anything about it because they don't I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/252">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► how I can judge it until after complications come out and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/257">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► native apps in general on the watch and see if it solves some of the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/264">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► just so slow to large problems that we've seen with the white kit 1.0 yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/270">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► whether it's like slow Absa whether the watch isn't the same kind of a platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/276">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► that maybe the phone of the tablet where it's just impossible for me at least 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/279">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► to make a judgment of it until I you know after this shakes out with live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/284">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► with it for a while calling what I write reviews kind of half alike as most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/289">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► them are just trying to explain how things work and how you can juggle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/293">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► yeah I thought of that too is a linked to your review a time or your iOS 9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/296">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► review and it's just what it says I was nine review and at this point year 9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/301">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► versions into writing these things you might as well not change it now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/306">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► review is it sells it short in some ways and it's misleading and others because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/313">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► it's not really review sort of is like is this good as this bad and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/317">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► obviously some of that but it's really more just like I don't know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/321">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► everything you would want to know about it about the technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/327">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► yea well but you do more than just a technology that you you you absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/332">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► right about it from the perspective of the experience I get one thing to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/338">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► say here now you can do this and that but yours is more like I've been banging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/344">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► on this thing for months living with it and here's you know here's what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/350">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► like here's here is not just a list of what's new in the note app for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/356">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► here's you know what this enables you to do with the D&O it turns it into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/360">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► totally different app yeah absolutely just to name one example so when did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/364">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► start using I was nine full-time why you may find me the day of the event can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/368">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► show you put it on my phone already so that was that was WDC yes and I put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/377">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► on my carry-on immediately you know I had no data signal and it's working well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/383">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► I think this year was actually a pretty good one for that I mean if anybody it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/388">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► funny if anybody would have reason to to install it right on day one and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/393">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► living with someone like you or federico somebody who's planning on writing one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/399">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► of these comprehensive and I mean it sincerely i mean book-length reviews of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/405">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► it and you know the rough timeline and again you know this year we can do no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/410">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► talk about the fact that a person having October event but that the October event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/416">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► was always the one if there's only going to be one event that's the one that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/421">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► going to be dropped because September is just sort of set in stone for the phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/424">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► I mean again you never know something unforeseen could happen it would delay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/429">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► it but you know we had to do was a pretty good bet that I was nine was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/432">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► gonna ship sometime in the first two weeks of September yeah absolutely and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/437">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► then going back to the iPod days as the holiday event for Apple they set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/442">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► everything that they expect everyone's gonna buy for the holidays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► yea yea even back to when they call it the music events you know and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/448">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► just be you know before the iPhone it was this is when new iPod came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/452">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► out you know sometimes it be like weird sometimes there be like I work or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/456">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► something like that and the occasional I think they had the first unibody Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/462">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► event in October but those are always did they weren't regular for a while we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/466">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► so anyway somebody like you want to write down how many words was your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► 22,000 so there you go i mean that's you know again that's that might be short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/474">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► for a book but if you printed it out it's it's a lot more books than it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/479">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► article lengths I did take stuff I took out stuff that I thought was only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/484">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► developer appropriate or is getting too far into the nitty-gritty so I did cut a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/487">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► lot as well as I wanted to keep it small buckland I mean like a typical I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/490">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► it's hard to say what's difficult these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► get cut but something like a 4000 word article if you're doing a freelance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/499">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► writer that's like a feature article in a magazine for life and I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/504">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► books obviously range in thickness greatly but I think 10 in the measuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/508">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► in the tens of thousands its book length or booklet like that rather than article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/512">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► and I was a disaster I S nine is deceptive and he did our calls Notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/516">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► version like this is the importance of anything I think that hit for six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/521">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► thousand words just doing that the rough take pretty amazing I think in in broad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/524">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► terms you know I think everybody you know keeps trying to set the stage that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/532">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► everybody is writing about is trying to set the stage just the basic expectation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/537">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► for somebody who hasn't really been paying attention all summer which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► actually you know not a bad way to go if you're a layperson sure take a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/545">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► take a listen at WTC think about what interests you to now for the summer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/549">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► wait to see what actually ships because sometimes drops and stuff like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/553">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► everybody trying to give people the lay of the land to basic Justice ok this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/558">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► not like a radical upgrade like I was seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► this is the year over year thing which is fair enough and I don't disagree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/564">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► that but I don't think we're ever gonna see an Iowa 7 update again for iOS I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/567">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► think I was seven was where they reset to a foundation to build on for years I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/575">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► I think yeah I know I agree I mean if you look back in hindsight maybe some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/585">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► it is maybe some of it was planned but you couldn't get to iOS nine without iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/589">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► 7 and Iowa State League you needed you needed the kind of an interface that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/593">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► could go through the science class changes I could go from being a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/596">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► to the smaller size classes and you needed so much of iOS nine is built on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/600">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► extensibility and remember we talked about last year about how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► transformative extensibility could be that I was literally uncoupling features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/610">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► from apps it was it was setting them free from the binary and they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/614">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► everything from content blockers to Safari ViewController to the gameplay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► recording is off to a lot of the price of is all being done through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/621">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► extensibility and all this other stuff is being done through continuity because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/624">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► they're indexing our activities they can take us back to it they can use it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► reminder it's all coming together really well and I S nine yeah I think so but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/631">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► lot of that really comes back to resetting just just resetting the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/636">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► for iOS 7 and saying this that's get back to somewhere where we can build on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/645">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► the new where they needed to go and some of that is just purely engineering and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/649">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► it didn't require necessarily a visual refresh you know like size classes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/653">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► extensibility obviously they could have done extensibility with the old luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/658">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► mean that nothing but I think it was worth it for them and I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/662">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► the way they thought about it was worth it to do all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► resetting at once and then build from there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/670">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► yeah I agree I just can't even imagine green felt or wood paneling changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/674">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► from compact or exercise class on an iPad with a few yeah I mean and now look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/679">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► at Mac OS 10 I think Mac OS 10 is good comparison and it has had there have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/684">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► been a few times over the years where there's been a more significant visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/689">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► last year would be for example with somebody going to eat a more it's again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/695">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► not really I S seven look alike but more like looks like looks like a sibling 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/701">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► I was seven and a few years before that there was the one where they got rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/706">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► and having two different window types you know the optimal windows in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/714">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► brush metal windows but those weren't radical right I i dont I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/718">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► seventy maybe was arguably but none of the previous ones really were were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/726">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► radical in terms of having that sort of controversy that Iowa 7 really you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/730">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► almost the upheaval and how this works altogether different sort of reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/736">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► and I think I was seven I think that this look I think it will evolve over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/740">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► time everything gets stale and fashions change and obviously even just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/744">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► system this year changed so it'll evolve and there might be some here coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/748">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► where there's a more significant change then then in recent times but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/752">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► think that part of the plan with the Iowa 7 look and going to a much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/758">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► simpler and unadorned overall look was to get get to something that's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/763">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► bit less about trendiness and and a little bit more towards a design that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/770">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► timeless specifically so that they don't have to do things like that again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/777">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► that they can just keep iterating like this year I agree completely like a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/783">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► at almost an architectural terms and as just got great bones now and they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/787">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► build out some differences like they can put in San Francisco it refreshes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/790">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► everything or if they decide not to wait for quantum dot panels and they go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/794">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► OLED panels and they need a night theme because that's better I know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/797">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► can add all that in but the structure the physics the playfulness of iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/800">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► they've built now I think that's a really long lasting platform yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/805">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► think it was definitely the intention and I think part of it is just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/809">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► simple fact that even with their vast resources now that a lot of the teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/812">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► that Apple are still relatively small Johnny Ives group is relatively small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/818">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► and it's always going to be relatively small and not having to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/822">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► finding specific a lot of time every year updating the look of iOS and Mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/829">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► 10 and watch OS just to keep them looking fresh trying to stick to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/836">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► something that too little bit more time less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/841">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► even if it even if it decreases the sort of trendiness like wow that looks good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/844">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► again this year this is new you know like you do lose something marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/850">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► wise if there's not like wow that looks new every year but it saves them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/854">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► time of having to just keep reinventing the stuff they're already they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/858">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► already done and let them spend time on expanding like last year they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/862">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► expand its been a lot of time and watch this year they could spend a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/867">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► on Apple TV yet know absolutely and the interesting thing is that that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/870">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► painful moment that's a huge amount of willpower and huge amount of effort and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/875">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► they turned that around unless they even a year and then they did another massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/879">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► change with iOS eight and built at all he the new frameworks but now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/883">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► done and they can do things that are super interesting and I think you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/888">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► those moments those moments of this is what we thought the platform is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/893">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► be and six years seven years later this is what we understand that is now and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/896">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► we want to go ten years forward we need to build that out now it's only going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/899">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► get harder as we move on and they can do a gold phone or a rose gold phone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/903">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► that will appeal to people just want a new color but the software inside it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/907">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► you yes you know maybe though the wallpaper will match the rose gold in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/911">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► the gold or the new sport bands whatever but the software itself will scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/915">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► yeah I mean I know that this is always a problematic analogy but if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/920">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► compared to a pain of code on a building I think for the first few years of iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/925">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► Apple was sort of not necessarily picking it wasn't like radically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► changing every year but they were going back and having to repaint a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/934">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► building every year and I think with the highest 7 look is is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/938">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► longer-lasting coat of paint and then they can just go back and update some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/942">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► the trim you know and so ok now it not Helvetica Neue its san Francisco is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/947">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► system but the whole thing didn't have to get repaint it it feels almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/953">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► they switched from doing iOS as a bitmap need a vector yeah yeah sort of I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/957">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► that's a very good way of putting it and I think that fitting in with the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/964">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► I was you know and I i really do hope over the III a fan of this design was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/972">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► the right thing I know there's still people who still complain about it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/977">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► doesn't mean that I'm suddenly dropped in think that the old iowa's look was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/982">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► bad I mean I there certain aspects of it that a mess but it just I don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/986">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► gave them the flexibility that they need and we can subjectively like or dislike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/993">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► individual elements of the latest iOS iOS 6 45 but objectively there were huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/997">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► gains that were made by going this direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► yeah let's take a brief break and when we come back let's talk about the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► last week I spent too much time on it but then we'll go onto I was and I but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► if you take a break and thank our first sponsor this week and it is our good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1015">TS</a>]
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00:17:11 ◼ ► on something catchy and memorable to represent your project you wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► maintain that looks good like a lot of times you think you have it you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► word you want and you find another top too mean to put it to put next to it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► when you look at it sometime certain letters don't look right next to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► other or if you make it all lowercase certain words combined together and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► don't look great together because it looks like it might be a different word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► or something like that it's hard to get a good to me to play around with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► however makes that easy they've got great tools to find new domains when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► find one that you want and it's taken maybe it's the dot-com it's a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► chance it's taken me help you find another top level domain with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► route we're all of that in less than five minutes even if you haven't ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► even opened her account with five minutes you can find the domain register [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► it get it up and running and all you have to do a search for a few keywords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► to get it going and they'll show you all of the result against all the extensions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► if you've ever registered a domain anywhere else you know that a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► companies in the domain registration business make it purposefully unpleasant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► it's a real scare me business there's there's it's a race to the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► pricing wise for the most part and therefore to make up for it they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► lot of just like up sell stuff to take get the extra money out of you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► heard goes the other way they do have great prices they're not the lowest but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► that shouldn't be less cuz they what they do they're they're competitive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► I think it's well worth the value but what they do is they just include all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► the stuff that you don't have to upgrade for a great example is who is privacy so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► that when people look up your domain name can they see your home address and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► well everybody knows you don't want that if there was stuff but other other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► registers make you pay for it that's ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► obviously that should be included in your account however makes that so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► last but not least in fact last but most important her as the most amazing thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► in the entire business they call it free Valley transfer service so if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► already got domain names at another registrar you want to move them to hover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► which you should what you can do instead of doing all that busy work yourself is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► just sign up for an account go to the valley transfer give them your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► information to login to register the other places and their experts at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► however will will handle everything to move them over to pay for it that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► included with your lover account that's just that's that's how sure they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► that once you switch those demands however they are never gonna switch him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► away you'll just be a long time customer and they just know they'll make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► money from you on the renewals as the years go by there that can that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► confident in it I have a lot of friends with a lot of domains and a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► use her and I've never heard one person who's ever switch from Harvard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► so here's the deal go to Harvard up com they have a code you'll get 10% off your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► first purchase by using this code it just for this episode of the show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► they always pick these clever code here is crappy old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► you'll save 10% off your first purchase it check out some I thanks to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► however dot com and use the code crappy old and anybody listening to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► this week you've got it we've got a crappy old bone in her right so last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► week's event you were there yes we we see each other I was wrong in advance I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► thought you know I think they would do the same thing they usually do have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► two events one after another because it would be busy because you know otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► are not going to be able to talk about the Mac at all so I was wrong they only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► have their only having one event this year I'm almost certain and talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► friends behind the scenes that certainly is the plan if there is another public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► event this year it would be something that the dressing some kind of surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► but I was right it made for a very busy event and it left no time at all for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► time for the Mac OS 10 was it was a Easter egg in Craig's email box I caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► that it's funny because I take notes and there it's funny when I rewired see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► event i i'd never wants catch everything there to dance especially when they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► fast like this so I always there's always something like I did happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► Craig was up there he was just doing the email preview abilities the hint he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1313">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► pop for 3d touch and he did the preview on Phil Schiller Gmail and it had secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► release date for OS 10 El Capitan september thirtieth anybody find out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► I think it said the bottom note Apple confidential that was about it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► in hindsight I guess it makes sense and especially if they don't have new Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► hardware ready to go later this year although I think if they do and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► just a 2001 GMAC and minor refreshes 22 MacBook Pros or something they can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► do those with a press release the MacBook shipped in March was announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► in March and Intel took so long to get Broadwell it and now they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► beginning to roll out sky Lake that it's hard it's hard to see that they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► chance to make the sort of MacBooks that they would want to show up on the stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► yeah and you know otherwise there's not much left for an event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► forget would either a few other readers have you know send in there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1375">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► speculation I forget what somebody else it's just not possible there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► they can make an event that worth it would have been worth it to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► separate event now if they had held the iPad's including the iPad bro I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► they could have done it is the NM where they could have done it gas although in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► high you know maybe not I was thinking because the there's a new iPad Mini for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► yes which is now technically equivalent to the iPad heir to a processor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► different but that's about it that's interesting and that's a new machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► actually does kind of make for a hard demo though if a once you've shown off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► all the features on the new OS on the iPad pro so maybe it doesn't make for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► good of it may be part of it you know part of it obviously I think talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► people behind the scenes was that Apple really wanted to only have one event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► because doing one event and putting all of the woods behind that arrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► is easier than doing two events even if one of them is sort of a smaller one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► right there on Apple's campus but second maybe that wouldn't have been enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► make you know maybe that would have left people you know people who go and travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► to get their thinking this was and the people who watch from home they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► they're watching na si porque I maximize the presence of 5 kayak the iPad Mini 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► it's not as impressive as the iPad 3 iPad Mini $4 impressive as I better to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► have the iPad Pro which is great but Apple's usually really good when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► have a two double barrel event you know yeah and I think it's just like last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► year's right now iMac except mr and it's just like last year's iPad air too but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► isn't really that's great if what you want is smaller but it's it doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► for a demo I will miss Craig getting up on stage and saying OS 10 is available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► today but other than that yeah yeah the only thing really they would have left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► to demo is to rehash and I think that would be good but it just may not make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► for a great event is to just go through here is the top 10 best features the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► temple features in Yosemite this year at any time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► yeah they kindest can cause they went long enough as is the kind of skipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► that rehash of you know what they call the tent poles and usually it's ten of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► them you know but here's the top 10 things that we want you to know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► and people forget why I know people sometimes complain about $1 a ww2 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► think you know people who are really really cute into this I mean sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► get that feeling too when I'm watching it but I totally understand why Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► does it because that's how you tell you teach people things you have to repeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► its it both pedagogical axiom and marketing axiom you have to make your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► point multiple times to get it through two more people you know when you watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► like Apple talks to us very often as being the greater community they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► don't have a lot of air time so when they have better time they want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► that exactly years are gonna tell you we're telling it to you did you see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► the event itself was if I had known if I had somehow gotten advance access inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► the facility and seen what they had built I would have been a whole lot less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► likely to guess that they were gonna do two events this year like it's hard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► me to you know in my right up afterwards I don't think I had so much the cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► but it's it's really hard for me to express just how impressive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► build-out inside that the bill Graham Civic Center was yeah you'd never seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► the Civic Center without it you will like I had never seen it before I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► know what it looked like so I went and looked at the other pictures afterwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► it and if you only ever seen it without what Apple did to it you may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► appreciate it but they transform that structure it's almost like a movie set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► when you come into an empty warehouse and all of a sudden it's it's the force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► yeah it's a good way to put it that it it was like a movie set they built a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► movie set for an Apple Keynote room like I was saying that they build a building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► within the building and then maybe that's not right because it was all it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► didn't have an outside structure of you see it was all insights on movie set it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► may be a better way to put it because it was all meant to be seen from the inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► like movies and the outside who knows where possible to sort of see that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► from one direction I mean its it kept saying 7000 series but they had maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► 1500 1700 available in there yet I think that was it because it's that they took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► up a bunch of that what would be the floor space for like if you wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► hold a concert or something with Max and sell the most ticket you would just set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► up an entirely different way I mean it really was more like a movie set 360 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► degrees all the way around even the flooring you know the stadium seating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► that we sat on was all built by Apple and and temporary yeah it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1674">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► they have a big warehouse in Cupertino that they caught the stuff and then put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► it away again for next year's event they built this stuff they don't get bespoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► every time they even put in an air system so there were the building is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► I was talking to somebody up on it when they were talking in preliminary talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► may be used as building their label what's the air conditioning situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► and the bill Graham people were like oh it's easy it's great you just open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► window and other events team is spectacular they they really could run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► production for any major studio it's what do you think that cost them I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► just the air conditioning and we were actually joking at the event that we'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► rather the wifi went out in the air conditioning is it was so hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► yeah but it must have been in the millions as I believe how high I am NOT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► net field so I could be way off I I'm guessing 10 to 15 sound crazy to me well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1734">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► and think about why what's a Super Bowl ad cost ya like five million dollars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► plus their production costs to make the commercials so you know it's not unheard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► of for a company to spend ten to twenty million dollars on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► TV campaign or commercial and Apple certainly gets super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► they get more than Super Bowl commercial exposure out of these special events and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► I like a commercial has to be done like they have to get it right the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► right but they don't have to share the day with anybody else so instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► racing to you know have been one of forty different all trying to be the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► know the commercial everybody's talking about tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► Apple knows everybody's talking about them tomorrow but I think spending ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► twenty million dollars on it is is not outlandish and I think it looked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► something my dad spent ten twenty million dollars however long they rented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► the place out however many people it took to build it however much it costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► to put all that stuff i mean the seats again I wrote this that I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1795">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► they just don't know if they threw them out of there someone they could donate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► them to but the seating was that we sat in was all brand new and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► that there's a way to rent that like it wasn't they weren't chairs that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► like pick up and move they were like rows of seating that were connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► each other you know there's certain types of folding chairs that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► latch next to each other for four events you can take them down the condo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► association seating at you that last week right and they all look the ones I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► was in look around our section that they all look brand new but on the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► and some people that we know when I wrote that they were like oh maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► they're going to use those on the campus in their theater and that's a good idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► but they weren't that dirty they they weren't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► you know there was a lot of rock to them i mean they were nice and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► questioned but they be shocked if those exact seats were the ones Apple has in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► their new theater on campus because they weren't that nice they don't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► johnnie I've team designed know they definitely did not and they also did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► yeah they you know but they were you know it just was just an unbelievable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► but the crazy thing is it wasn't just that like if you're going to see yes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► talked about how much those boots cost they built the equivalent of a had pods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► for the Apple TV demos little living rooms and I don't know how many look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► like 10 or 20 and those are also like that's the CES dial pavilion as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► the event around yeah absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► the screen was enormous the stage and screen were enormous and that's the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► of thing that's really I think it's impossible to gauge if you're not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► you know and again does it really matter that we were there message wise no but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► in terms of understanding the scale of the the the show it does because when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► you're on TV you know watching the video it it reduces that you really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► and you only see the size of it was enormous it was so big that I noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► several times that when they were switching to videos and they're like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► know I like 11 of the journey times narrated videos that whoever was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► speaking pillared for timber whoever would say you know now we have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► I tell you about it they'd start playing it while they were still standing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► front of it because it was so big that it would create an awkward pause if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► waited until they walked to the front of it anymore it was like an IMAX version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► of a of a tech demo yeah like ordinarily you would never never and I think it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► to come through rehearsals I think even like your instincts even as you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► that polished of a public speaker you'd you it it would occur to you I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► hit the button to play this after I'm off to the side but it was so big that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► they had to do it in front of it and because it was so they did they never at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► least I'm even notice anybody wants the video played they were so small in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► comparison and yeah yeah definitely definitely and I thought that too well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► was watching it didn't make that big a difference because you really just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► of thought you know little tiny bit of their silhouette of the screen was truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► enormous grain good sound really good sound again that's a big build out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► because they weren't wasn't a diverse sound system in there that the use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► one they put like a couple of those new iPad pro speakers just turned into Macs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► and then the other thing in addition to those those cubicles they built it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► get off to stage left was where they had all of these little living rooms to test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► Apple TV and iPad prod- demos that were hosted by light talented artists yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► that you know who already had exposure to the thing I could show you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► somebody who knows what the hell they're doing when they're drawing can do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► they were really nice but it was real dark over there and then stage right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► went down a hallway and it was like you're entering a temporary Apple Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► and the most amazing thing as you came down that hallway it looked like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► did you notice that yeah I i didnt pick up that it was sunlight but there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► almost like a golden glow coming in as he walked through the room I look was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► waiting to get in and I look at it was flooded with sunlight thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► one-time member and longtime Apple cut a hole in the wall at the US weather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► center to get some light in there and I thought they must cut a hole in the roof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► and then I thought no way that doesn't make any sense because the bill Graham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► center has like three floors above above the floor of their on and it just they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► put in like some kind of you know fancy lighting system that gives off light and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► the color temperature of some of that was home kit there's just some guy there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► were serious cuddling all of it I don't know but again I think it's sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► the movies you know movie studio quality lighting out a little like the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► thing that him that a TV show or movie would use to simulate you know sunlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► without having to you know actually have some light again that's all them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► don't have an external events team like some people do not hire anyone to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► this together for them it's all internal yeah and it's you know incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► impressive yeah I thought so completely the other thing that was interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► you and i talked about this is even with the seating for 1400 they did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► greatly expand in fact I think they might have contracted the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► media and analysts who were invited in other words outsiders non-apple people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► who were invited to the event so I heard and I don't but I heard that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► constraint wasn't the seating of the arena but the capacity of the on hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► area but you just couldn't have that many people in the Apple TV and the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► testing or is it one time and that limited how many kids you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► have a bunch of media people there and just never let them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► so they had to figure out that number then that's as many press they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► invite and then the rest they used for engineers that actually I did not hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► that but that makes my experience my first hand experience make that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► total sense to me cause I stayed until they felt so politely asked those of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► any old days that used to get you some really good hands-on time with stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► remember like when they're a real number of very specifically and it's just funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► Apple's back to having a keyboard you can latch onto an iPad the first iPad it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► was so hard to get time with them and you know you really just felt like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► many people waiting at every table that after you did get some time and got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► play with some things that it would occur to you it was so many people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► just felt like a jerk if you didn't hand it back to the Apple rappin and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► go take you know get line again somewhere else or think about new things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► to do but by the end of that hands-on session Dan Moren and I had an iPad with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► the hardware the original hardware keyboard thing to ourselves for who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► don't know it could good like 1501 interrupted minutes and you know got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2215">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► play with as many things as we could test out keyboard shortcuts you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► was fantastic and there is nobody over her shoulder because most people left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► that's not the case anymore like it was crowded and and hard to get time with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► stuff up right up until they they asked us to leave ya know absolutely and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► that's just the people they didn't fight so I heard also that they try to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► much more international balance in the in the media presence this time as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► and we look through the media it was obvious that there were people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► yeah lot of people from Europe clearly in a lot of people from Asia clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► yeah and a story I heard about that was that for years with the Easter do is run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► simulcasts around the world I don't know how many but let's say they have one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► London have one somewhere in Asia maybe more than those two maybe more but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► least one in Asian one in London and that way people would have to fly as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2274">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► as someone from Germany would only have to travel to London and Apple has PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► staff in those you know those people that PR staff could could man those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► but they were all here this year yet whether just what I heard is that more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► and more than people from around the world even with the expense and time of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► traveling wanted to be at the real show didn't want to watch on a screen at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► same time they wanted to be at the show and as more and more people were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► know those that media people were asking for that left less and less reason for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► them to sign and so they didn't anybody who wanted to be there was here but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► meant though that you know the 400 spot for outsiders had to be split from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► everybody around the world and conversely they had so many products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► they had the all new Apple washed out they had the iPad they had the Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► they have the iPhones and those those teams are big like the press teams the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► marketing teams as far as I could tell there were people there being manned by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► people from all over the world that if you work that out on those departments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► anywhere in the world where they are helping out yeah definitely just wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► it's just an incredible incredible effort that goes into it whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► think of the announcements I mean just the Met a commentary on the effort Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► puts into the show itself is truly extraordinary and it's they've taken a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► 22 level with this show I think that they've never done before it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► like I know you mentioned before the idea that Apple was a product is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► like the events themselves have become products and I've gotten to go to shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► by other companies and when you see the difference in how their states like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► won't mention any names but some of them don't even think about streaming it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► didn't occur to them as they're setting it up in this massive problems at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► last minute or they do simulcast in one starts before the other and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► remember one year under new york started early so these these are handing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► loans to keep reporters busy trying to get the satellite back and reporters on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► a blog into phones immediately but there's just so many things that go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► wrong and that and that these tend to go right as a testament to the effort but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► yeah and it seems like you know the streaming held up once again very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► everybody out there listening I bet probably a majority of the people listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► listen live and it seemed like there were very few if any complaints about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► streaming yeah accidents and bad things happened everybody I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► testament to a company that they often do not let the same bad thing how are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► the same mistakes happen twice right nobody got switched to the Chinese audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► track or something like that no one talked about from there from the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► and it was interesting to me is when we talked to a bunch of her friends about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► house split some of the opinions on it was a little bit of that at WWDC cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► some people actually did like the music stopped a lot of us did it but some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► people did and this year there was nothing as divisive as that but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► were still some people go Jeff Williams owns a polite outlets in his organ but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► he presented it and it wasn't Phil Schiller and some people like the fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► new voice in some people would prefer to have filled to all those things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► people don't find feel excited now so they like Craig what some people think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► Craig is just a bunch of dad jokes and then there's just so many opinions now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► about who should be doing what and I think that almost shows that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► getting to a level where we're not worried about the products as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► anymore worried about Apple is a show it's you know I don't get the complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► about Schiller and I know that there's some people who you know what's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► with silver was he depressed you know I like his demeanor on stage I think think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► it's a very carefully dialed in and it is it is very much Its I don't find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► to be lacking enthusiasm I find it to be completely without artificial enthusiasm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► and you know even Federici who's who is more enthusiastic I don't find it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► funny though I really do think though that that's exactly what he thinks he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► just more of a jovial guide and then showers they're all as far as I can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► you spend a lot more time than I have but they they come off offstage the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► way they come up on stage yes very much so in my experience very much so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► even eddie to you know he is he's you know you think might be a little goofy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► you wouldn't you know and and the adl like when you hear that Steve Jobs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► Tim Cook are Rochas least Gary negotiators it believable and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► hear about Eddie based on his on-stage demeanor it does seem hard to imagine a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► UK I can't imagine it but he you know I think if there's ever any place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► he's got like a different demeanor 2000 sheeting table it is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► clearly different than is is staged demeanor and as you know if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► say hi Don you know backstage or something and i must be so disarming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► because if someone comes in like their Darth Vader you're preparing yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► for Darth Vader but if someone comes in as your best friend then all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► all the air out of the room you just not ready for that right I someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► complained I saw an article that somebody wrote about that I almost did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► not because I agreed with it but in the spirit of sometimes I like to link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► things I disagree with but that I find worth considering it's like the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► thing was an article about that called Apple's event creepy as hell and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► his complaints was that it was just one guy after another all dressed the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► with the exact same almost the exact same shirt on and i i see what he means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► we actually commented on it in the show it almost seems like maybe Apple needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► to coordinate that a little bit better there was you know really was a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► of very similar bluish with muted dark blue button-down shirt he had his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► product red shirt on that's the thing I don't see how you I see how you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► complain that I see how to him and Jeff Williams and Schiller and few others had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► roughly similar shirts on I don't see that how you write that sentence without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► at least putting in a parenthetical about every shirt was so crazily and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► that it demanded to be mentioned if you're going to talk about the shirts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► a dimension that I almost think I get it is going in like remember Doc Severinsen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► the guy yes later on the johnny carson show he were deliberately outlandish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► costumes and Carson could crack jokes about it like I feel like he's going in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► that he he he just where is he wears Gucci shirts on purpose it's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► negotiating he distracts you at the Sheraton goes in for the kill right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► because he actually didn't have that short time before the event you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► like pre-event Apple's senior executives main goal down in front in front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► stage you know I can you know half hour 45 minute leading up to the event in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► I saw you know ed down there and he was wearing I don't know what it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► didn't really take notice but I certainly would have taken that his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► views wearing that shirt and he wasn't like so he actually gets into costume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► backstage to come out I talked about this but I seriously want to just turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► off the internet often after Apple events I saw the whole thing about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► Jony ive didn't appear physically in the video and it must be something wrong but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► we saw him and he was always was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► yes exactly know he was all over the place afterwards know there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► right stupid it's the fact that the fact is that they've upped they've well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► a guess it's a matter of taste whether they've upped the style of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► narrated videos but they have seemingly abandoned the previous caller format but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2754">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► you want to call it a style like template where it's the white background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► that that seemingly infinite universe background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► and you see the people doing the talking you know they were always on the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► side looking to the left if you're looking at the screen and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► disabling as though they were filmed doing a sit down and instead now it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► black background and their darker and it's entirely shots the products and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► voiceover from johnnie I and just johnnie there's a mean they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► them read show these to have these have a bunch of people in those as they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► have johnnie rudy is entirely Ajani I was getting to the point where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► were making fake versions of those I think once you have your say on a light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► yeah I think maybe that's part of it and that you know they just got old you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► what's his name Big Bob Mansfield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► them as gallery show isn't some of them had several people who had just gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► some of them yes definitely I was like simply meant he was really a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► they really do come up with a come up in those videos I think they really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► yes well absolutely I don't think there's any other reason that they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► stick around for anything anything else with the event now I just thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► i mean we spoke about it briefly before the event we said if they if they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► going to do all this stuff they're gonna have to yadda yadda lot of things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► they did they get a lot of things they cut a lot of stuff a lot more stuff yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► yeah I'm curious who does that was previously it was without question it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► was Steve Jobs he was the director of the shows and it was on question and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► had a gift I end you know they were easier to put together when he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► around because he's gift was such that if you laid out that the products that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► here's the stuff we'd like to announce his all of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► jobs can just look at that table of stuff whether its software hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► and the show just came to his head like the basic structure what do we do first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► what we do second what we do third what gets cut and it just came to him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► that's not that they came to an end they did have to rehearse and you know then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► they'd start rehearsing and as they're rehearsing the flaws in the follow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► laws and everything just came to him and he would just say that's that's too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► that's gotta be thirty seconds and that's it and nobody you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► weren't really arguments over and somebody who's may be stuck see the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► the thing that really sticks out to me when you watch other companies events is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► that the intercompany politics just comes spewing out the sides of the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► in terms of you can just see that it's this division and that division and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► both want time on the stage and they want it for the sake of their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► internal bureaucratic status not whether giving equal time or ten minutes of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► to this other thing is good for the flow of the show and therefore therefore best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► for the for the interest of the company as a whole in terms of keeping people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► interest in making sure that the limited time at this event is allocated properly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► and I think you know Steve Jobs could single-handedly solve that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► whatever internal problems there were in turf wars under him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► the buck stops with him and he could stop him coke obviously has that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► authority and I think it would be unquestioned but he doesn't have I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► need he's the guy who has the sense of showmanship to know you know which stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► to put in which order and stuff like that and I really do think that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► was wrong with the WWDC keynote is that it was just sort of a jumbled and sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► of randomly structured as opposed to ordered in a way that was Harmonia yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► to your point I thought late Steve Jobs could look at one of those weird you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► know those weird paintings and just see the pattern that was hidden inside it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► would just pop out under 10 else can see it so obvious and now seems to treat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► them well before it was Steve Jobs and Jony ive and everything radiating out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► from there is Tim Cook seems to treat them as if they're running their own sub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► and it feels like you know just running watch who does Jeff want to present to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► watch if you want to that's fine if not we'll find somebody is going to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► iTunes or segment two parts of it was gonna do those and they get to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► those decisions and maybe arguably you'd want Tim Clark or attorney I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► make some of those decisions but he seems content to allow them to own those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► fields yeah but not if he doesn't if he did I think one of the seemingly amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► things about him is that he seems extraordinarily comfortable sticking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► what he's good at knowing what is going on is clearly very very good at certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► things and then not not feeling the least bit defensive or inadequate about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► the things that he's not good at even though those are some amazing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► that his immediate predecessor was amazingly good at it I don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► bothers Tim Cook in the least that he's not he doesn't have that sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► showmanship that Steve Jobs and Apple yeah and clearly it doesn't bother me at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► least that he doesn't have the sense of design that Steve Jobs I mean I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► Tim Cook offers feedback and he's very very tuned into the development of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► products and I think if he does have an opinion or question that only I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► he doesn't hesitate to ask but he doesn't have any problem letting johnnie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► I've take over as the the buck stops here sense of design for the company one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► of my favorite moments during the event was Tim Cook walked into the Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► area with OneRepublic and he wanted to show them and iPad what they're asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► about the iPad prone it wasn't in that area but there were a group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► from the guides there had them so one of the guys offered it to me just picked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► up and giving a complete hands on demo to one Republic showing them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► features almost like he was working at an Apple store was remarkable yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► would I was nearby I actually saw that until they wandered off but it's his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► knowledge of what's being announced is as deep as it could be like you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► he needed to he could do everything i mean it would take forever cuz he talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► so slow but what seems like he doesn't drive designed with Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► appreciate the details of what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► yet he pays attention to what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► he is very much aware that there's no glossing over on on that stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► probably wraps it up I take another break here and we talked about our next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3170">TS</a>]
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00:53:10 ◼ ► do is you install plays on your Mac or PC I guess and you get a free demo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3190">TS</a>]
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00:53:29 ◼ ► online storage everything you have an external hard drive back set up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► of aids in 03 terabytes nobel back it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► there's no magic to it like whatever your upstream internet connection is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► from your home or office to the Internet is going to limit how long that initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► backup takes Thursday don't have any kind of magic involved it's gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► two terabytes uploaded in an hour so it might take awhile I might take days but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3234">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► they know that and it's like engineered with that in mind and the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► they do to is they don't just blindly take all of your upstream bandwidth your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► computer is honestly I've done it I just reinstalled a couple of new machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► within the last few months and gone through the first the first run of using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► bad plays you don't notice that it right you don't notice that it's doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► initial backup it's not like you know all of a sudden everything else on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► computer's slow it just works it worked and it is written by people who who who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► use it and know what it's meant for anyway once everything's uploaded and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► and there and you have a complete backup it's just silently runs in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3279">TS</a>]
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00:55:05 ◼ ► computer and you get unlimited on throttle back just unbelievable when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► wanna get files back what do you do when you can just log in if you just need one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3311">TS</a>]
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00:55:37 ◼ ► just show up you know by overnight with everything on it can't can't be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► you'll feel if you're not backing up offline even if you have backups right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► house local backups to another hard drive which is great I do too just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► you feel so much better with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► offsite backup to you can't back up to enough different places and if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► to get a backup that's in the cloud office off-site I can't recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3360">TS</a>]
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00:56:29 ◼ ► I guess we talk about what they announced at the show I'm curious what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► you think of the iPad pro at the Penn because you are maybe not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► serious illustrator but you're certainly a hobbyist Illustrator or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► you're about me and illustrator also I i do that screw around them I for one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► iced I drew everyday like stuff when I was growing up and I went to college for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► art and I worked as a designer for 78 years using Wacom tablet every day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► doing Photoshop and Illustrator and InDesign just constantly until it became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► muscle memory and though I had a love-hate relationship with those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► because they were better than anything else but they were never exactly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► digital pen and apples pencil is its remarkable if you just used it you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► find that too but if if you've been using my home for awhile are you view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► stylist is on the iPad it's hard to see how to properly frame the difference but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► it just never felt like a proper pen to me it wasn't heavy enough it was too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► slippery and apples fixed all of that there is no paper drag but they've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► material on the tip of the pencil has just enough drag on the screen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► makes you feel like it's a real thing that this real contact there and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► wait is absolutely perfect and the way that it it they do this really fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► sort of prediction algorithm for where you're going to go and once in awhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► you cannot you can you can feel it but it catches up super quick but it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► you feel like you're literally drawing right on the screen and because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► no intermediate layer the way there is with work on the whole layer between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► display in the sensor is it feels like you are drawing those pixels into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► glass and I used it for about the same thing you did I went there at the end I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► used it for about 20 minutes and I put my hand down on it to test palm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► rejection I did very quick cross hatching and started to give me a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► long list of things to test two because she did all this stylish reviews and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► did I did everything I could to screw that thing over and it kept with me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► it was the first time I actually felt like I could sit there with a pad of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► paper in sketch on a digital device that that's something that didn't occur to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► during the event I thought I was thinking of it obviously you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► rumored that it was big iPad and it would be some kind of optional stylist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► type thing attached to us drive was obviously part of it it hadn't occurred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► to me though that they weren't just going for a better stylist on iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► experience than what was possible with third-party dialysis until now and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► instead they were going to take like the Wacom stuff and make it look bad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► know that this is the preeminent computerized driving thing in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► . it didn't occur to me until afterwards in the hands-on area when I was walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► around with Michael B Johnson aka dr. we honestly I i four went first-hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► experience with the with the iPad and penkava who said that their hands on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► every was crowded 554 when doing that myself just to hang with dr. wave and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► listen to his questions he was aghast you know what he does at Pixar is build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► internal tools for Pixar artists and devices have great interest to him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► to listen to his questions about refresh rates and relaxin and and all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► stuff I like I learn more about letting you know just sort of being you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:59 ◼ ► just looking over his shoulder really really fast and it became clear in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3599">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► aftermath that's really what Apple it done is that this is you know a dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► step forward in terms of drying you know kind of artist is one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► where they see an area where something is just not as good as I wanted to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► the if they believe that they can make a difference they're gonna go all out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► try and do it and they doubled to refresh the scanning rate inside the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► so the iPad pro so it doesn't work on older generation iPad so they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► update the hardware eventually for that but they're combining that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► technology like the the first touch with you touch inside the pencil and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► smart spurred till a direction positioning and they're measuring on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► and they've got all the software behind that too and it really it it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► magic and it's a really dumb thing to say but they're doing so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► computational work there at the end it ends up just feeling like a pencil there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► was a blog puzzling to yesterday written by Linda dawn who now admittedly she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3654">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► former Apple designer so she's bias you can but she's former will hurt because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► she was present when people argue about it but she's done interaction design and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► stuff for Apple and does a lot of her work has done a lot of work on the Wacom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► Cintiq I thought her little just quick here's all the ways that this is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► it was amazing so this antiques aren't ready so they've pixels that it artists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► menus with them is janky feels junkie and has a bunch of buttons you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► actually hear there's parallax between the surface of the thing and the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► display underneath which for almost any angle that would be comfortable for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► artist is going to be an issue and then there's latency there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► palpable latency yes so combine those that deserve highlight here's how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► thing is better its blow a good and you can almost see them the way they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► with the smartphone with a look at the existing market said one of the problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► were the pain points and can we fix any made that list they just knocked them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► yeah my question here is my big question about all of this though is and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► obviously there's however many other uses for for the iPad pro but how big is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► the market for making the pan work as well as this is why I have no idea how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► big that marketers yeah I don't know either i mean there are a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► who went out and bought Microsoft Services just because they wanted to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► this kind of illustration work and that's obviously it wasn't enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► make the surface successful product but it was interesting to me that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► that demanded I don't think I think sometimes apple just wants to do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► they think is better and they know that the technology will trickle down that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► maybe in the future and iPad and iPad Mini maybe even an iPhone will benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► from this technology but it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► they're launching a big product to bring everything together to make it a reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► right because there's a there's all the magic that in the pen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► and in theory that you know the plan could work with any other device but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► there's also new technology in the iPad pro itself that works with the pen for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► getting the you know the pressure sensitivity and stuff like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► however then the lair now is in a modern to vote on the matter and Apple devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► between the actual display and the surface of the glass above it however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► thing that is and I really do think they're not exaggerating the call that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► gap microscopic they've got centers in there to measure at microscopic levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► that the degree of pressure that twice the resolution of the ones in the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► air and the iPhone apparently yeah yeah and they do magical stuff now with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► with the refresh rate where they sense that you're not doing anything that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► that's very dynamic they can cycle that down to save power there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► technology and that's play and I think that they've I think they've they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► improved refresh rates in two ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► there's the drawing refresh rate we're just what it's displaying what the what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► the iPad Pro is dis plane has this dynamic visual refresh rate so if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► watching a video where everything is changing all the time it's a refreshing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► at whatever rate but if you know it stops if you're drawing something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► you stop and it detects that you've stopped and nothing is animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► little slow it down and that can definitely chat saving energy but I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► believe if not know that they doubled the refresh rate of reading the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► sensors yeah right and so as even if you're just trying you're with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► finger even if you just sliding your finger over it it's got double the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► refresh rate of checking just wear your fingers and it all comes together like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► to Linda's post that it just does so many things that no one else is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► right now because there are two things to do that all those refresh rate things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► those seem like things that could couldn't will eventually trickle down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► across the whole iowa's lineup I mean why not i mean whether they'll work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3895">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► at the very least you know you know increasing the touch refresh rate you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► know seems like it would be just you know useful in ways to any iPad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► there is so much they've shown their own custom timing controller is for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► like 25 K iMac and now for the iPad pro they've shown that new chip that lets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► them flash the iPhone screen three times as bright to make a selfie flash they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► they've shown they can do all that with the Apple watching keep things too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► SuperLow refresh rates are super low its proposed supervision energy raids where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► they're going with all this the thing that it's always impressive to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► that Apple they're not like Qualcomm when they're not even quite like Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► they get to make the parts exactly for what they want to do is to take a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► at like the a nine processor and to me this is the light years ahead of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► rest of the industry now if you told me 10 years ago Apple will be leading in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► any chipset business I i woulda thought it was insane but they're doing it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► there they don't have to care about profit or loss on a chipset like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► Qualcomm does cause they're not selling enough to worry about supporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► Microsoft and Android and other architectures can only support in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► own if they want to make a feature like like this they can just pick the silicon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► that supports it and I think that over time that becomes a stronger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► stronger advantage for them I really do wonder and I know that like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► like Geekbench is not it doesn't give you everything you need to know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► how fast one machine is culpable to another but it's not bad it's not a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► like starting point if you just want to put a number on it and then keep bench [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► in particular is designed in a way that to me seems you know like a good balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► of the various factors really really curious to see where the iPad pro marks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► because I said last week that I think it'll benchmark like it'll be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► 2013 MacBook Air I wondering if I sold it short it might be like the MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► Air you can go in by today I'm not a maybe that's too much I don't know but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► am pretty sure that it's going to be close it's almost like apples and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► oranges now because again they are building the software and the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► down to the chipset all to work together and you don't see that people complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► about you know an iPhone needs more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► Andres got four gigabytes of RAM but that really is meaningless because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► they're running interpreted language and garbage collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► they're not have been have sought their software that's built for a wide set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► devices not specifically if you're saying you need more RAM because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► can't keep a tab loaded in memory that's absolutely justified but they're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► their ability to do this let them pick and choose exactly the components that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► they need and I think that's where you get that performance from yeah it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► sort of astounding I mean it's to go from where the iPad started in 2010 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► 2011 and it was a compelling of ice at device especially starting with the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► 2 in 2011 but not for reasons of her for pure performance compared to a Mac or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► even just like a MacBook Air which is always been you know the slowest back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► the lineup it's for other reasons it was okay so it's not as fast but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► carry around all day but it'll last 10 hours but touch is more intimate and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► you know it sounds touchy-feely no pun intended but it really does give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► more intimate experience there were all these but it's kind of fascinating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► performance is no longer but yeah well you look at the MacBook the brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► MacBook that's running Broadwell why and it's hard to look at the Apple a nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► and not think you just sound like kicking their ass and mobile to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► does and again I think again we'll see maybe I'm wrong but if not if I'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► it's not gonna be my much that that the iPad 2 and iPad 2 iPad Pro is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► benchmark faster than the surface pro threes that are running Intel chips and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► that was the whole thing with the surface is that they had well we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► the regular service which is armed and that's if you want something thinner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► lighter and then we've got the surface Pro which uses Intel's mobile chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► because that's you know that we need for the speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► and Apple as you know relic in relatively short order just like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► years later has said you don't need to make that compromise you can get all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► advanced all of the advantages of armed and be intel on performance I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► say that some people thought I was just being a dick but I meant it that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► you look at the surface running Windows was not an advantage it was a detriment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► in many cases whose windows was just not designed to do that all in iOS was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► that's why I think Apple with their tablets and even with the iPad pro gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► that right I was one of them to put went before they started emerging everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► I was one of the Windows Phone a service and see what I could really do but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► the idea that this is a touch first mobile operating system built on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► it gives them a tremendous advantage yeah I think so too the next thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► it isn't a pencil for the iPad Pro is the end here you know you can't not talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► about the service in this case is the smart Keyboard where you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► magnetically attached keyboard cover that when you unfold it has a physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► keyboard inside so much better than the original iPad with their keyboards 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► absolutely but it's funny you know it's funny how did you go around in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► five years it just looks at what time they you know they didn't know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► but clearly this this smart Keyboard is you know you know Microsoft did it first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► so credit to them I'm curious why it's and I may be the answer is just wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► year or maybe wait half a year who knows maybe they'll be an event this year but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► maybe they'll be like an early 2016 why there's not one for the iPad air too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► I know that its full size you know it's bigger more comfortable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► you know tried the ones in the demo area last week but it seems to me like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► iPad or two is big enough for a keyboard my guess is that are waiting for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► iPad 3 which will have those same three connectors that the iPad Pro has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► makes the docking and undocking so easy for the new keyboard that's exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► exactly I think it's gotta have those three it's got out of those three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► whatever they call it smart connector yes my connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► remembering names I think it's gotta be that they're waiting for an iPad or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► three it'll have the smarts connector and it just wasn't ready yet and or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► maybe they didn't want to maybe they didn't want to really see it going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► to your older point and the thing with Steve Jobs it was so great on stage as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► he could not he wasn't just that he saw the story a range of products but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► could tell you the story and maybe the original iPhone and the iPad 2 events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► were quintessential examples of that and I think this Apple knows that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► not quite as good at telling stories yet you absent that narrative I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► they have to be they have to be more focused and if they start talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► an iPad air with the keyboard or with a pencil just takes away from the iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► need to be very careful about keeping the focus on that one product yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► think you're right I think it makes sense even if they could have done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► now that it made sense to wait and maybe it will be maybe they'll go up cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► with iPad error for or against it being better three and maybe do it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► spring if they have something else to announce with it i think is the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► the watch dispute with watch OS one to watch OS two is coming out with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► hardware they're not they're not linking those products like Kohls so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► they're willing to do that more often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► yeah and it's you know they're married to end a kind of iPhone it's convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► I mean if the best home showed off his WBC in the best time to ship iPhones in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► September and those things line up very nicely for the yeah I think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► something new like the watch it's it's so unpredictable yeah weather watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► it's so unpredictable that it makes sense to just not worry about getting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► on the exact quarter that you wanted to come out on until there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► more regularize you know production and everything and no know more about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► you know they need a staggering those people like you said they have small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► teams and those teams are continuously running marathons of sprints and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► have to be almost like it when guys talks about the video game industry they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► have to be careful to balance those people out because they will burn them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► yeah I totally agree with that so here's what's in her smart Keyboard Cover is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► hundred and sixty nine bucks which is a lot really I mean especially since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► starting price on the iPad lineup is now a $249 a you can get an iPad I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► you know it's the old many but you can get all iPad for 249 but the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► for the iPad Pro is a hundred and sixty nine bucks I think it's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► expensive Apple keyboard since my beloved Apple extended keyboard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► Microsoft Surface pro type cover keyboard in Canadian dollars at least as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► 175 and it's you know I think it's complicated bit of of machinery so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► and I think it feels like I'm valuable cover and obviously since the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► machine is 802 $1,100 and I think I think most people who buy this are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► to get the $1100 when they're going to get the one without in 2006 and cellular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► for consumers you go bigger your Kindle I think that's yeah I think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► that the entry level 1 oddly enough is is more for like an internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► professional setting like I think sometimes people aren't like an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► could do more they could absolutely I don't like these to do with the eMac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► identify those Q's better black 16 gigabyte iPhones and iPad Tues and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► entry level I Pad Pro there are people who are buying two thousand of them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► enterprise and all they want is business to business apps and web portals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► they they will take almost no storage well I think even for like an artistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► high end work but at a place like if you've got like studio and you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► special effects on a movie or something like that and you want all of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► artist to have this it makes sense to just buy the wifi low storage one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► because the storage isn't really gonna be on the iPad anyway it's gonna be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► the server within your you know within your outfit I mean like did not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► artists working on star wars are keeping all of the data on their local machine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► mean it's a it's it's exactly the scott mcnealy Larry Ellison thin client that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► what we finally yeah it's exactly that and so it makes sense to just get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► the one without the you know it's not then the end the studio these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► artists are not leaving so they don't need cellular that's just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► wasted you know wasted money and wasted thickness if if if they're a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► thicker like they were or just a wasted antenna and they don't need the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► if they're ever going to use the storied why in the world by it why not just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► know get the loan so I think it is odd that there's no LTE SKU for that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► I always had the same wifi and LTE excuse for all of their iPads is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► first time you have to get the more expensive one if you want Lt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► yeah that is interesting but I do think it's telling towards the intended use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► yes think that if you want to use it as a laptop you know this is my portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► now should even say laptop laptop word is loaded in terms of how you use it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► your portable computer you know it's the additional storage 228 gigabytes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4610">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► storage is not that much for a portable computer now and it's four gigabytes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► RAM to summon it it does have the constraints of a mobile device still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► right but it's you know that's the one thats pecked out like a this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► portable computer and the 32 gig one is backed out like this is like an artist's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► studio computer right this is my drawing tablet did you get a chance to try the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► keyboard I spent only a few minutes with it but I liked the Mac I like low key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► bars I like the MacBook keyboard a lot of you have very different taste in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► keyboards yeah I don't like any laptop keyboard though I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► you know that I think that the the Mac Book Pro Keyboard I have right now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► probably my favorite laptop keyboard I've ever use it if not it close and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► still think it's kind of a crap keyboard compared to my big clunky extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► keyboard to make do i mean i right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► you know thousands of word to yer on that he could connect an IBM Selectric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► II will it well not many of the areas where I would use the MacBook Pro I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► would only do that if I were using it as my only computer you know I my desk yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► but then so I mean I make do I mean I am picky about keyboards but I do I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► find the new MacBook once again I haven't lived with that machine so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► don't know but just playing around with it and stores and stuff I mean I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► definitely make do it doesn't seem that much worse than the 11 inch MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► that I used as my portable for four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► yeah I use it I took me an hour to get used to it only problem I have now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► that is still it goes right to the edge of the machines I was my pick it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► accidentally hit escape or enter something as I remember to pick it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► yeah and it does it having tried this thing at the event last week that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► keyboard you know the travel is obviously very low but it travels enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► that it's there absolutely is a click enos to it which in and of itself is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► huge win over and anything like that I've tried before you know and I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► that Apple had Logitech announced the same day so I was letting anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► connected with letting partners connect to those smart connectors and that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► it'll be a range of different keyboards available for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► yeah I thought that the Logitech announcement was in her ass and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► another new Apple thing where they obviously you know looped loop to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► in in advance and you know they haven't failed the details but they obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► bloop to them in and I think I think that the thinking is that Apple decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► this is what we want to build we want to build one keyboard it's gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► fold-up cover obviously with this port the potential is there for all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► other things including something that's more of like leave it at your desk space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► station right so if you're just going to use this and I think this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► very for a lot of people I think it's a really interesting scenario where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► is your main computer and you take it around when you're at your desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4794">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► why don't you when you wanna keyboard that's even better as a key as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► keyboard then the smart cover well there there's lots exactly what this Logitech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► seems like we don't know the details they've only done one little carefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► cropped photo of it but I mean that's what it seems like to me I still have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► drafting table that I've used since I was in high school and i was thinkin I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► put the iPad pro on that then tilted down in a draw on it then tilted up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► just to get on the keyboard got all the possible use cases it seems like a lazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► boy situation now where you can recline as much as you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► yeah exactly I wonder how much you can adjust the Logitech keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► obviously there's gonna be others other everybody else who makes these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► sort of peripherals is going to make something for this and it is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► a MFI port is a mess I still made for iPhone or iPod originally but the alley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► given the Apple watched off I think they're calling MFI so right now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► just really where there because there's no I involved yeah it's gonna be MFI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► exactly you know license exactly along the same way that a licensed adapters so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► anybody who wants to its gonna be able to play along but I think that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► interesting and it really occurs to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► people have been chasing the dream of the doc computer I mean as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► they're being portables I mean that Apple had you know where they called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► duo's yeah the PowerBook duos with docs and there's pros and cons with all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► them but the big thing whenever you try to do it is even today there's maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► there's there's no dock for a MacBook Pro but certainly you can and I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► know lots and lots of people who do live off one computer it's probably a MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► Pro and it but when they get to their desk they have a nice big display to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► of the dark lifestyle is in the tethering on tethering involved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► various things you need to plug in power and USB and you know especially on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► Mac the big annoying thing is we view however you need to connect external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► storage on that you've got this thing that you can't just employ you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► have to go in software and unmounted and make sure that whatever software was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► using it is no longer using those open files and if you just want to get up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► go to YouTube pain in the ass with the iPad pro you're never going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► anything but get up and go and you probably won't even need in most cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► because the battery life of things get you won't even need to plug in lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► to charge the iPad while using it you just charge the iPad overnight come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► to the office and just a chunk put it right on your keyboard and I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► everyone to get up and go just just pick it up and it's super fast any me too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► because there are some companies who really think that they can be there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► a famous Microsoft's saying right no compromises and resulted in the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► compromise ever as you would literally cannot be all things to all people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► can't see every market equally well in Apple's being very interesting choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► here like the MacBook is as close as you can get to being an iPad while still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► being a Mac and this is as close as you can get to being a MacBook almost while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► still being an iPad and not trying to do it all in one device they're giving you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► these devices that both have unique identities still but are optimized along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► the same sort of line he just pick what side if you want to be on yeah that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► good way to put it I mean but an end you know there's obviously compromises with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► all of it you know there's the compromises without pepper obvious there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► is no external storage has no concept of it in iOS there is no USB port or USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► see or anything you can plug in an external drive doesn't have built in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► sdcard you have to go you know with the Lightning's sdcard thing and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► people use it but it's not something you gonna keep plugged in all the time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► have to mostly wanna tablet and just occasionally want to use it just for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► certain things use a keyboard for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► so I mean who are you looking to sell more of off the top of my head you gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► sell more smart keyboards or pencils I i'm assuming maybe I'm biased because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► that's my back now that I'm assuming the pencil because that really is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► completely better take on that technology where we've had sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► keyboards on on iPads before and maybe Logitech will sell more than out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► believing we don't know we hope they'll be fragmented across a variety of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► manufacturers I think the pencils going to be unique to this device for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► and I think that there's as kids grow older I know the ATP guys mentioned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► last week but i've i've heard about it from Apple people for years is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► younger you are the less likely you are to really give a crap about on-screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► keyboard vs physical keyboard of any kind whether it's built into the cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► or whatever that you know kids have grown up or or are growing up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► eyeless era see an on screen touch keyboard as completely normal it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5096">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► interesting because previously I can I went through the migration from digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► become deadly native people were initially nato their analog native they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► were reading newspapers and then became visually native and now you have people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► who are touched native and using external and intermediate input devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► is just not the computing that they understand even when the MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► launched people were complaining they can plug the external monitor 2012 at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► the amount of people who plug an external monitor into a MacBook is tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► it all of our friends on Twitter but it's it's single-digit percentage points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► and it's just not normal behavior and that's i think increasingly driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► Apple's products yeah I think so too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► anything else on approach you wanna talk about i mean that rhyme with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► speakers were just there were marvelous you could just turn the ladies big echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► chambers for really loud speakers and when he rotated from landscape to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► portrait or just 36 degrees they kept up with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► yeah I it occurs to me that for all the belly aching that's gone on about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5155">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► mono output of iOS devices that the way they went stereo with this is like going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► with 4 speakers that never occurred to me before I may be because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► unimaginative but you know obviously just like the screen rotates the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► speakers rotate or you know this because I'm visibly rotate but the concept of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► which sounds coming from a cherry they cost ya right in those what's up what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► down what's left what's right which way you're holding the device in boy in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► demo area as noisy and crowded as it was foiled certainly seemed like something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► like hey that's something yeah it was really impressive I just can't wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► actually get the device and put on like Avengers age of Ultron or something full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► blast and and start rotating into lol it does it's kind of interesting and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► wonder you know you know a lot of people watch a lot of video on iPads its size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5215">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► is obviously makes it better if you're willing to carry around the boy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► difference in sound output if you're not using advances dramatic now and this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► mean it will before police joke that the iPhone the iPad is a big iPhone I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► thought it was more like an iPhone gone IMAX and this really is an iPad on IMAX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► because you hold it close it fills your field of view and whether it's a game or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► a movie or something it really is immersive yeah totally agree the weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► I guess lasting I'll just mention is I know it sounds bad that it a little 307 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► pounds heavier than the original iPad cos original iPad sure she feels heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► compared to modern I bet and there's certain scenarios where I guess if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► you're walking around with it and holding it in certain ways you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► definitely feel that but it's so much more balanced and it it sure is hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► believe that it's as heavy as a result iPad when you pick it up and hold it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► because it's it's so much more distributed throughout the whole device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► like the iPhone six-plus is equivalent to a smaller heavier iPhone but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► it's so spread out you really don't feel that a normal use especially when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► yeah it definitely feels light weight even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► it's you know my iPad standards humongous alright let's move on let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5293">TS</a>]
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01:28:48 ◼ ► part because they were in a glue is modern new internet software hosted by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► then and it is modern in all the right ways everything they do is looks just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5336">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► good and it looks like it was just as well designed for your phone as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► you know your upcoming new iPad pro really really good stuff let you share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5354">TS</a>]
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01:29:28 ◼ ► manage projects set up a little micro blogs which is sort of like having your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► own internal Twitter private just for your team just for your company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► all in one place their latest upgrade the one that they've been working on for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► 2015 revolves around documents and how you interact with them gather feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► and make changes so they've added things like the ability to track who has read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► critical information to keep everyone on the same page as well as I read receipts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► critical information to keep everyone on the same page as well as I read receipts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5395">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► email except just for shared document on the internet and wireless n900 received [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► an email but if you've got a document that certain people on your team have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► sign off on for some kind of compliance or just the way the rules of your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► team work you do that the review and you get that feedback right there in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► system itself really really great apparently really really high in demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► from their customers so you know me my team is one person I but you know a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► of people out there seems that more people signing off on these agreements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► and stuff like that in getting a confirmation rating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► big big hit this year if your company has a legacy internet some kind of crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► or if you don't have any kind of internet and you're just winging it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► without any kind of centralized organized internet to keep your team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► organized you really should give it a try and it's no lose giving it a try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► is the easiest thing in the world you can get a free trial software dot com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► slash the talk show you don't really need the / the talk show but it lets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5464">TS</a>]
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01:31:16 ◼ ► thing just works you can see all the features see all the things I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► telling me about and from 210 people it's just free and as such is free for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► limited time it's just free so if you work on a really small team if you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► under 10 people you can just use it for free in perpetuity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5487">TS</a>]
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01:31:37 ◼ ► small team first see how good it is and then check out their pricing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► additional users it's super super competitive really really gets about as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► low as you would think for something that's free for up to 10 people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► perpetuity really good pricing great features and and they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► innovating their brown innovating sounds override what they're doing is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► building new features at a slow steady pace really really impressive they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5516">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► working on it it's not you know static software they're really working on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► great stuff so my thanks to a blue software that includes offered a calm / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► the talk show what was an extremely announced AppleTV yeah I'm gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► spent too much time on it because we just don't know that much but my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► impressions are that it's exactly what I wanted and I even bit last week on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► show that the main thing I really wanted was is something Syracuse's been talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► about for years to is to get fast forward and reverse scrubbing get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► latency on that and the user experience of that modernize that do what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► that a computer can do it is you know give it a good feeling give it a sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► that you know where you're going and we're gonna stop and at least on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► damn I know when the on staged demonstrations that look great in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► hands-on area it worked as advertised in my hands it was really good and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5573">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► you've ever used the at the iPhone remote Apple you slide it goes too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► doesn't go far it doesn't solve them that iPhone app doesn't solve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5584">TS</a>]
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01:33:16 ◼ ► wanted to be now whether it'll work like that for all content from all sources I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► don't know because I have found with the current Apple TV that some are worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5602">TS</a>]
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01:33:33 ◼ ► of downloading child work better so who knows how the streaming work but I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5613">TS</a>]
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01:33:44 ◼ ► something that they wanted to get better too so we'll see how it works in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► real world will see what kind of partnership they get with the companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► like Netflix on HBO and then we're seeing more partnerships to like HBO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► famously switch to the MLB teams for their end and those companies are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► to get better and better at it well and i think that they have every interest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5636">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► working with apple on getting their experience on this thing as good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► possible and talking to people from the Apple TV team last week there's no doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► in my mind the day they take that seriously though there are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► they're exactly like I was hoping that they were they really really they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► fast Warner vs experience on the old Apple TV and didn't want to just make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► wanted to really kind of bring it to the the modern-day really just take a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► leap forward in that and I couldn't be more excited about that I know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► nerdy but I would I really like is that for a while now these Apple TV iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► and iPad we've been running iOS under the covers just across the platform and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► now the watch is that they all run iOS they all have no backward in front board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► as the platform for those technologies in the iPhone and iPad a springboard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► washes carousel and Apple TV has pine board and headboard or something but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► they're all they're all the same thing they all running the same platform you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► can as a user I am in all the details of the watch compared to the TV compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► the iPhone but I can figure it out because they are very similar things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► for developers yes Apple's doing things like they're making WebKit and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► web basically a private API for the watch and the Apple TV and it does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► consequences but essentially if you know how to make apps for one of them you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► make apps for all of them making a watch extension are making Apple TV app is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► something foreign to you is not a whole new platform you have to learn and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► the technologies that Apple's been doing what we talked about for iOS 7 in Iowa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► State announced I was my nose are leveraged across all of these devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:36 ◼ ► and it's one of those things where everything Apple does for one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5736">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► end up making all of them better again I totally agree right there's a lot of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► everything is not as siloed as it was in the old days now they have teams working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► like the the messages he watched those are part and parcel of the messages to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► you not the exact people but there's not segregated anymore and on demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► resources I mean that's interesting I i WDC when they talk about it as part of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► planning but then you see an Apple TV and they don't want any and all there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► was some concern about this but they don't want you to have a 32 gigabyte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► Apple TV and you go to download an app it says your Apple TV is full you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► to delete something you gotta go in trying to figure out they'd only be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► anywhere near that experience so there if your Apple TV is emptied all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► initial file and then immediately start downloading a 2 Gigabyte tag and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► immediately start downloading more and as much as they can but if your Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► is almost full download that first really small file which will almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► assuredly fit and they started removing the less frequently used in older data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► that can make room for the new frequently use data and they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► this whole near line management system that makes these devices hopefully just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► do the goal is to make that all seamless for the end user and yes absolutely more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► work for developers to go through and make these resources and tag them into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► everything but the result is you know you're sitting there and you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► play minecraft you don't get that pop up saying sorry can install it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► yeah absolutely yeah I think you know and and serenity Caldwell tackled it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► very able in a piece of it came out yesterday yesterday was when I saw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► but you know it quickly got misinterpreted as apps for Apple TV have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► a 200 megabyte limit and knowing that you know there's an awful lot of games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► the deaths on enough for that's not the case it's just a 200 megabyte initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► download just to have an app that Apple TV that you can launch and then after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► that whatever the resources you need and let's face it we're talking about games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► you can start downloading immediately be levels it could be texture maps it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► be like you've seen the the introductory tutorial video you don't need that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5877">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► anymore throws it away you don't need these cutscenes anymore you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► these cost impacts are you don't need this expansion pack it just throw those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► guided really good explanation of this to understand that this is not if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► just use unity or you just use epics engine maybe this is is could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► impossible I don't know but it might be very difficult to slice your appt this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► way that they're they're solving for me sitting on my couch on a small capacity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► device yeah so I'm impressed by the video in C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► delighted at the prospect of apps and games I think I like the controller I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► don't know that it's going to be a great controller for games I think how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► gaming actually takes place on this thing I I really don't know about but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► think in terms of using it to watch TV is has the potential to to truly be what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► we've always hoped Apple TV would be angry and you can only write night only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5936">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► have one of them attached and unfortunately they're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► only have one of the Apple Remote attached if you want to have other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► things have to use iOS devices probably running an updated version of the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► Remote app where you have to use the made for iPhone which is now in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► misnomer the made for iPhone game controllers and recently it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► there is a change in policy that says you have to at least include controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► for the Apple Remote you can make a game that's my only and that's led some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► consolation to you because the Apple Remote doesn't have the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► capabilities of a full game pad right like there's no way to simulate keypad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► and an analog standard trigger but in all those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► shoulder buttons so yeah that's obviously going to limit limit some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► the games they can come out but my hope is that again this causes a lot of angst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► on Twitter but the best thing you can do is follow radar write an article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► explaining like Apple hates gamers and that doesn't like getting attention it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► easy to dismiss that the writer really informed article about this is what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► game you want to make why is awesome and why how Apple is stopping you and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► debates going inside that we all hear them to go inside the company to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► people fighting for both sides of this all the time and if you have a stake in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► one side or another just arm them as best you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► yeah I have heard though I know we talked about it offline but that you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► know that the buttons on the remote are programmable you know by the app so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► can use the buttons for game buttons but you're still in your obviously limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► in some way by the fact that it's just aid you got the accelerometer so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► do like the the power game type stuff that they showed onstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► and whatever else you can do with that Wiimote style weaving the screen and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► have a touch pad but clearly there's no substitute for a deeper yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► these things are always a tension it whether it's going to take what you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6056">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► to control a great entertainment center and what do you need to control a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► video game and I remember using the Xbox Media Center with the Xbox controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► and that wasn't great at to go by the hardware controller but that wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► sort of stupid four games so that you end up with these environments I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► saw some confusion a lot of people seem confused when you look at the User [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► Interface Guidelines that they have the difference they have something things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► that involve a click and things that involve a tap and I think it's funny I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► didn't see any confusion over this entire crowd had my hands on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► period with them I think that I think that what it is that the touchpad clicks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► when you press it but you can also just tap it without clicking sort of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► mac book trackpad yeah I couldn't get a clear answer about that and I and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► neglected to follow up properly but I heard both you couldn't couldn't tap on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6117">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► yeah well I think you can tap and you can click on the click is actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► physical click and then tap is just like tapping so it's effectively like the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► that a Macbook and have tapped that don't actually click it and click which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► is a click away the Magic Trackpad if you have it set up that way I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► we're gonna need more than you know two minutes of your time with it really and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► it's serious stuff it was way better than I thought it was a serious often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► been a point of concern for some people but I tried all that stuff into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► ability to say what did you say it goes back thirty seconds or something and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► you the subtitles at the same time that's such a great feature it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► in part of it comes to the the whole like being better at scrubbing and keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► in keeping more of that streamed video you know I live in memory so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► but then turning on the captions for that it's such a great accessibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► features and it's one of those accessibility features that is like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6175">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► just shows their accessibility is for can be for anybody you can have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► absolutely nothing that you you know perfect vision great hearing you know no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► motor skill problems at all but a feature like that like if you just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► make out what a character said that's accessibility right it just shows how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► accessibility don't think of accessibility is being for others for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► people who have some sort of disabilities or something like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► it it released you know it certainly is more important for people who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► disabilities but that's a great example of how you accessibility is a mindset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► and it really works for everybody and it is amazing was one of the first to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► any event I magnin somewhere for you when I get a bunch of people saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► please ask him if we were still there because accessibility is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► passionate credibly engaged but they always feel like they don't really make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► out any money or or companies in general and they'll be the first thing that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► chopped if any deadlines can write so there is really really concerned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6237">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► there's not going to be there and they've seen it with other products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► yeah absolutely but you had a one-out had voice-over for the Apple TV dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► voice-over for 3d touch on the iPhone and ask them about that that is not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► a point of pride for them it is they believe that is something that has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► done and they have teams of people making sure it gets done to me of when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► don't know anything about voice-over for 3d touch so right now if you press the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► 3G touch on it you have voice over an able to I'll tell you what it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► then when it pops up you can flick through a readout to the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► option choices for example in the home screen icon and then you can choose the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► one that you want and that makes it accessible to people who can't see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► actual 3d touch controls gotcha makes sense yeah I'm not surprised but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► really great and you know the Serie responsiveness in the hands on demo area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► was as as good as shown on stage I mean I was completely on creative and he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► did the same thing they did and perhaps it was a good test but I did you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6299">TS</a>]
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01:45:28 ◼ ► gonna make truly magical upgrade year-over-year serious and get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:35 ◼ ► suddenly become how 2001 but it does seem like it's getting better and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6335">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► does seem like the Apple TV team in particular has somehow figured out a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► to get it even better than the other platforms were series available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6345">TS</a>]
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01:45:55 ◼ ► work and it was delivered to the Apple TV team but just in general that team is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6355">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► it serious one of those things where the first time you tried as his magical but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6360">TS</a>]
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01:46:09 ◼ ► it a permanent part of your workflow but with this she doesn't think all if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► aren't familiar with it sequential inference where when you say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► and then you say something else it bases its answer not on the the thing most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► recently said that on the context of the history going back to when you first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► started talking to it and they were doing that James Bond movies only show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6383">TS</a>]
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01:46:30 ◼ ► with you know this or this or that guests are and they keep up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6390">TS</a>]
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01:46:40 ◼ ► way that really seemed like you were talking to somebody not to me was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6400">TS</a>]
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01:46:46 ◼ ► you a result that was what you wanted another thing again something that not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► you know go back seven seconds is a feature I never occurred to me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6413">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► it does seem too good to be true now that I've seen it I can't wait to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► some of the features of the day have are things that we've all wanted since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► forever like universal search where if you know you want to see Caddyshack you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► say show me Caddyshack and you have a Netflix subscription then you may be of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► HBO show me if that if Caddyshack is available for me so I have to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► anything to get it because it's already on Netflix and show in one place don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► make me go on in their place in search there then go to HBO then go to iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► there is now they view this is one of those things where it really does suck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► to be Apple's almost like because people been asking for this for years and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► wanted to do it for years and the media companies would not let them they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► not want to be reduced to one of many options on a TV set and is almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► when they gave amazon mp3 DRM free music and wouldn't give it to Apple once in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► awhile ago Apple does Apple not only does not get what they want to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► opposite of what they want and I don't know how they ended up getting this deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► but when you see it and you start asking for those things and it just works and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6477">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► knew that the media companies can be completely happy about that could reduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► them to a commodity and they can't be happy about skipping around and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► these things but I was able to do it and to me that makes it a much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► yeah but I think that in some ways maybe they could maybe they sold it to them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► the merits of the user experience which is an especially like if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► Netflix subscriber if you're not you're not going to get those results anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► because you don't have Netflix if you are a Netflix subscriber and you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:31 ◼ ► see a certain movie why wouldn't you if if you know the results from Syria say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6511">TS</a>]
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01:48:43 ◼ ► hit play on Netflix why wouldn't you just hit play on Netflix I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► they're doing it with public not everyone has access to the search on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► Apple TV i think is that still partner program and it definitely partner place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:56 ◼ ► partner base and so like for example if and when Amazon submits an Amazon Prime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6536">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► video app to the App Store just because they have submitted the app the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► of it won't necessarily won't just show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► magically those those universal results are limited to partners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► but I really can't see in the modern world where they wouldn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► partner with that and how many other places are there were you could see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► if it's the same movie or TV show you know how how likely is it be gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► like HBO usually has like a rotation like this month these are the movies HBO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► as and so sure maybe sometime there's going to be a movie that available on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► both networks and HBO and so you the person who just did the query are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► pick one and you wouldn't pick the other but who's to say you wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► searched in the one you picked first anyway right and which case you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► wouldn't be giving them to play and ultimately what Netflix really wants is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6592">TS</a>]
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01:50:00 ◼ ► the Bandit on HBO instead of watching it on Netflix doesn't cost any money if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6600">TS</a>]
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01:50:10 ◼ ► that the future for these services as their exclusive stuff what's made HBO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► HBO is HBO exclusive shows like Game of Thrones introduce detective and what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6616">TS</a>]
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01:50:26 ◼ ► popular than ever it's the Netflix original content and when you search for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► that original content wouldn't you why wouldn't you want to show up if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► ask Siri you know show me you know what Kevin Spacey 12 cards house of cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:43 ◼ ► why wouldn't you wanted to show up as just universal search wherever you are I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6643">TS</a>]
01:50:46 ◼ ► think the fact that they know that the stuff that the most important for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6646">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► find from them as their exclusive stuff which are knocking you can't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► anywhere else it changes the dynamics of of why they would want to be involved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► that entire thing is changing so frustratingly slow but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6657">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► absolutely a certain point they're going to be exclusive data and that's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► important than being considered a phase yeah and I think if there's anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► may be wouldn't want to be involved in it for a nickel and diming from a nickel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► and diming angle it would be apple in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► of if your option would be to rent it from Apple and this is right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► speaking before any sort of hypothetical streaming packages offering the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► but as of today as of when we first get our first Apple new Apple TV is later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:28 ◼ ► than later this year if there's a movie that they have rent but Netflix has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6688">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► or HBO has it and you're a Netflix and HBO's subscriber it's gonna cost Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6694">TS</a>]
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01:51:42 ◼ ► can see for free multi-point their biggest deal now is the early access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► things where you can get for example age of Ultron or something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6706">TS</a>]
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01:51:56 ◼ ► usual Apple mantra of that for you know let's just make it awesome let's make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6716">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► awesome experience and worry about you know we'll get our money eventually but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6720">TS</a>]
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01:52:07 ◼ ► that we get if people are going to be happy using networks on Apple TV good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6727">TS</a>]
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01:52:32 ◼ ► I heard there's anything anything surprising I liked Apple's tagline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► because every year they get shit for exactly the same as the last one which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► is the same with a 911 every Nokia phone is the same for years every HTC phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► every sounds on their phones in this year they turn that around release that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► nothing has changed except for everything I thought that was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► weekend not to that mean and I really like that commercial the way that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6775">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► commercial just takes that reaction square on and even starts with it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6778">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► really starts in with the narrator Lake Bell really isn't she's not she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► sound sarcastic she really sounds like she's going with the idea that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► not much of its new and then starts telling everything its new and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6794">TS</a>]
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01:53:24 ◼ ► to europe upgrade cycle if you get a new iPhone every two years which is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6804">TS</a>]
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01:53:30 ◼ ► get one everyone by everyone that comes out upgrade cycle that mean you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6810">TS</a>]
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01:53:44 ◼ ► think that the ass upgrades are often the ones that have the more stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► think it was the 5s they invented touch that but brought such a deed us for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6828">TS</a>]
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01:53:59 ◼ ► performance upgrades really seem most notice by now goes back to the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► asked the 3G S 3G s was a huge upgrade maybe in hindsight it's hard to rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► these things because it's largely an iterative process and it's been so close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:14 ◼ ► to annual that you really we've been hearing these complaints ever since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6854">TS</a>]
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01:54:27 ◼ ► now it's plastic and all they did was add 3G and every single year since then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► the some of the same people complain that this is not a major upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► and yet here we are you know eight years later and and we have this phone instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► of the original iPhone and it's it's you know it's almost incomprehensible better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► every year is like that it's incremental in some ways but I think in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► some of the more impressive engineering stuff comes on the last year cycles when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► they can work within the design constraints of the previous year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► yeah it seems often times and I guess it depends on what department you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:07 ◼ ► that your chief challenge in the design years is to get all your stuff to fit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6907">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► the new design whether it's a camera processor but no more thermally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► constrained you've got to figure all that out and then you figure that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► already paid that tax on the next year you can start racing ahead again right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► did you know that I think like that six obviously was about making a bigger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► that certainly is some engineering involved but all of the technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:30 ◼ ► were the same as the technologies that were there before and it's the azure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6930">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► model that comes with 3d touch yeah and it's free and always wondering what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:41 ◼ ► story to me and I think we've talked about this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6941">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► to me what Apple is going to do was never that interesting the same reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:46 ◼ ► why I don't want to know what's going to happen in the new Star Wars movie I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6946">TS</a>]
01:55:50 ◼ ► to see how well they gonna realize that if you just look at Phantom Menace on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6950">TS</a>]
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01:55:56 ◼ ► going to happen but it doesn't tell you what the movie is gonna be and I i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6956">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► to see how Apple presents this stuff like you hear about you know they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► for such in the washer using a trackpad they're going to use it in the phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:06 ◼ ► how are they going to use it and what difference is gonna make me using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6966">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► phone that's always a super interesting part and I did way better with that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► I thought they were gonna do they did a really really well crafted story around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:17 ◼ ► three types for me i i think it's interesting that they've settled on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6977">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► two years of industrial design and it's been other than the original iPhone it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:34 ◼ ► has been I mean it there's been no exceptions whatsoever right there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6994">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► result of fun which was like a one off then there was the 3G than the 3G S [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:45 ◼ ► from the outside you know like the 3G but you know better internals than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7005">TS</a>]
01:56:51 ◼ ► four and then the for us than the 595 s 66 S III you know again you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7011">TS</a>]
01:56:58 ◼ ► like I proved you know last week you can definitely go wrong by directing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7018">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► Apple will keep doing in the future when it's done in the past but for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► reason why should I get really works for them here and that they've got this down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:10 ◼ ► and that it gives the industrial design team two years to come out with what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7030">TS</a>]
01:57:15 ◼ ► next and they're not scrambling every year and I think it it gives used you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7035">TS</a>]
01:57:22 ◼ ► know gives everybody ecosystem an extra year of case compatibility I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7042">TS</a>]
01:57:30 ◼ ► there was some talk or speculation haven't even looked at the specs I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7050">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► honestly don't even know but that the Sixaxis are slightly like in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:38 ◼ ► tenths of a millimeter or something but I asked and they are case compatible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7058">TS</a>]
01:57:44 ◼ ► like any case that was certified for your iPhone 6 should fit on a success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7064">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► like a super cheap case with no manufacturing tolerances at all so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:55 ◼ ► may be exceptions but I think the ones I think like I don't know I to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7075">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► knowledge if there are exceptions it would have to be something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:06 ◼ ► I don't know they're compatible within tolerance levels are complete and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7086">TS</a>]
01:58:11 ◼ ► such a big deal for some of the things that lake ecosystem wiser such a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7091">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► advantage of being an iPhone user like when you go to Disney World if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:20 ◼ ► to buy a case from Disney for your iPhone the fact that they're all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7100">TS</a>]
01:58:29 ◼ ► gonna fit the fuck you buy a new phone you know now in September you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7109">TS</a>]
01:58:33 ◼ ► go there and all those cases that are in stores already work to huge advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7113">TS</a>]
01:58:37 ◼ ► yeah and many factual tell you is at the same thing that they don't have to cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7117">TS</a>]
01:58:41 ◼ ► new cases every year and also try and cover nine or ten different designs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7121">TS</a>]
01:58:45 ◼ ► the same company every year right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7125">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► and you know i'm for example so like for the engineering team working on 3d touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:52 ◼ ► who knows how many years they've been working on this in a lot apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7132">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► probably a lot but they you know as soon as the hardware designed for the six and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7135">TS</a>]
01:59:04 ◼ ► a whole bunch of the constraint that they would have to know to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7144">TS</a>]
01:59:07 ◼ ► where set and you know yes they made a change in a switch from whatever series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7147">TS</a>]
01:59:13 ◼ ► aluminum the 7000 series aluminum and I'm sure there were all sorts of little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7153">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► things along the way where they got you know monkey wrenches towards but at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:21 ◼ ► basic level they knew the sizes of the devices that they would be working with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7161">TS</a>]
01:59:25 ◼ ► the new the sizes of the displays and I you know I and thats not like they knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7165">TS</a>]
01:59:31 ◼ ► that last year that's like they knew that two years ago because the design of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7171">TS</a>]
01:59:34 ◼ ► the six and 66 + with set two years ago a year in advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7174">TS</a>]
01:59:39 ◼ ► you know somewhere within Apple there is a team that knows exactly what the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7179">TS</a>]
01:59:43 ◼ ► Phone 7 is gonna look like if not further ahead yet might have been set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7183">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► might have been said months ago cuz that's how far in advance some of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► stuff has to go it's you know but I can only assume that that's you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:57 ◼ ► schedule that there are but I don't think there's any event I just think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7197">TS</a>]
02:00:01 ◼ ► as the years go on it I've always wanted but I think as the years go on you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7201">TS</a>]
02:00:04 ◼ ► more and more superficial if you really are going to judge whether the iPhone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7204">TS</a>]
02:00:09 ◼ ► an improvement year over year just by whether the exterior design looks yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7209">TS</a>]
02:00:14 ◼ ► whatever your just make a gentle reminder to people that you know we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7214">TS</a>]
02:00:17 ◼ ► who are reviewing these things that you human beings them every year for a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7217">TS</a>]
02:00:20 ◼ ► of people there are going from afar sl55 CEO 5s and it's it's a substantial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7220">TS</a>]
02:00:25 ◼ ► upgrade and they're really really funny thing is that Apple can do all this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7225">TS</a>]
02:00:29 ◼ ► people will say oh it's boring is not a big upgrade and then they'll make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7229">TS</a>]
02:00:32 ◼ ► like gold or rose gold and silver flying off the shelves because it turns out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7232">TS</a>]
02:00:36 ◼ ► scratch our service and what you find more surface yeah speaking of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7236">TS</a>]
02:00:42 ◼ ► what do you think of the new rose gold anodized aluminum is what I ordered did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7242">TS</a>]
02:00:48 ◼ ► you really wow I try to get the new color because it I I photograph these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7248">TS</a>]
02:00:53 ◼ ► things a lot and it is a very monotonous page when everything is the same color i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7253">TS</a>]
02:00:57 ◼ ► wish i to get whatever new is available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7257">TS</a>]
02:00:59 ◼ ► things up but I was interested I wasn't sure if it was gonna because usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7259">TS</a>]
02:01:02 ◼ ► rose gold is much more copies than this and this is really much more rows and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7262">TS</a>]
02:01:05 ◼ ► is cold and watch matches in it it's it's different it's a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7265">TS</a>]
02:01:12 ◼ ► direction for Apple that was one of the things I was interested in as I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7272">TS</a>]
02:01:16 ◼ ► that the the watch started them with the 7000 series aluminum and now the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7276">TS</a>]
02:01:22 ◼ ► is on it and talking to them and it's one of those questions are they now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7282">TS</a>]
02:01:25 ◼ ► quite give you a complete answer but you know like a wink wink nudge nudge it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7285">TS</a>]
02:01:29 ◼ ► it the same aluminum minutes yet it's the same metallurgy teams working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7289">TS</a>]
02:01:36 ◼ ► hand-in-hand and so looking at it I was looking to watch that rose gold watch at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7296">TS</a>]
02:01:42 ◼ ► the event last week and it under the like I said this really nice lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7302">TS</a>]
02:01:46 ◼ ► like really nice just cannot believe it's that sunlight and diffuse then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7306">TS</a>]
02:01:51 ◼ ► seemingly a very very neutral color and the guy from Apple at the desk they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7311">TS</a>]
02:01:59 ◼ ► do you know what you have a question i was just curious how well it matches the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7319">TS</a>]
02:02:02 ◼ ► phone now the rose gold found but the phone to another table and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7322">TS</a>]
02:02:06 ◼ ► just walk around with these things are you wanna see it and they had they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7326">TS</a>]
02:02:10 ◼ ► ready for that and they're a little key unlock a drawer right there and even at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7330">TS</a>]
02:02:14 ◼ ► the watch table he could take out a rose gold phone and put it side by side for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7334">TS</a>]
02:02:17 ◼ ► me and I i mean i got really close close as I could and I mean those things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7337">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► identical I mean it's far beyond the capabilities of my vision to notice any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:28 ◼ ► difference in the color ya gotta ask them if they could hold it up from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7348">TS</a>]
02:02:33 ◼ ► know that a photo them together and they were hard to see from the picture but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7353">TS</a>]
02:02:36 ◼ ► they were so so very similar but and there's a almost a running joke that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7356">TS</a>]
02:02:41 ◼ ► space crazy I'm not always match they've changed over the years because black is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7361">TS</a>]
02:02:45 ◼ ► the hardest color to anodize and if you try to make it really black and chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7365">TS</a>]
02:02:48 ◼ ► and a flake so you go down to grand and maybe get a little bit better at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7368">TS</a>]
02:02:51 ◼ ► the watch they can make it darker again hold up on a phone so that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7371">TS</a>]
02:02:55 ◼ ► always a moving target but I'm understanding of gold is the easiest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7375">TS</a>]
02:02:58 ◼ ► color in some of these variations are much easier to just nail time after time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7378">TS</a>]
02:03:02 ◼ ► and I when I was in the i mean this is the worst type evidence it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7382">TS</a>]
02:03:10 ◼ ► anecdotal one but I would it will happen yesterday Monday well one of the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7390">TS</a>]
02:03:15 ◼ ► two days I was walking my son home from school and I know he's really interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7395">TS</a>]
02:03:21 ◼ ► in the product red strap sport strap so I said well lets you know when by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7401">TS</a>]
02:03:29 ◼ ► Apple Store you know not for sale yet but they were there and Emmett and while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7409">TS</a>]
02:03:35 ◼ ► we were there guy came in and he wanted to see the rose gold watch and it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7415">TS</a>]
02:03:42 ◼ ► know so anecdote of one is the new color scheme popular yeah yeah that's just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7422">TS</a>]
02:03:47 ◼ ► because we do respond respond to some form of individualization when everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7427">TS</a>]
02:03:51 ◼ ► has the same color watch you start to feel like if you get something different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7431">TS</a>]
02:03:54 ◼ ► it's it's a little bit more your own yeah and I you know again I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7434">TS</a>]
02:04:02 ◼ ► I think that the silver silver back and white face watch i think is is truly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7442">TS</a>]
02:04:11 ◼ ► think all of them are due by my point is I think they're all relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7451">TS</a>]
02:04:14 ◼ ► gender-neutral colors I think that the rose gold is gonna ask you a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7454">TS</a>]
02:04:19 ◼ ► more towards women and I think space black probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7459">TS</a>]
02:04:23 ◼ ► Watch Phone devices probably skews a little bit more towards men but even at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7463">TS</a>]
02:04:28 ◼ ► those extremes I don't think it's gonna get that far from fifty fifty you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7468">TS</a>]
02:04:33 ◼ ► if you talk to any other manufacturers over the years and they will always tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7473">TS</a>]
02:04:37 ◼ ► you that black is by far the biggest seller because as cliche as it sounds it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7477">TS</a>]
02:04:41 ◼ ► is a little black shirt a little black dress it's the one thing that you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7481">TS</a>]
02:04:44 ◼ ► that goes with everything and people just tend to go that way because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7484">TS</a>]
02:04:48 ◼ ► want to dress it up or you wanna do something else you don't people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7488">TS</a>]
02:04:50 ◼ ► notice it in the flashy colors they get a lot of attention but there never hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7490">TS</a>]
02:04:55 ◼ ► I think I think that maybe if there's if there is a sport band that may be skewed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7495">TS</a>]
02:05:01 ◼ ► specifically towards women at the rose gold with the lavender is is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7501">TS</a>]
02:05:09 ◼ ► pretty feminine but I guess I would put it is even a little feminine don't skew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7509">TS</a>]
02:05:16 ◼ ► curly none of them look like in terms of linguistics that there's a difference to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7516">TS</a>]
02:05:21 ◼ ► me between what's feminine girly and the stuff doesn't look girly it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7521">TS</a>]
02:05:25 ◼ ► feminine know the entire product line I guess not childish in any way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7525">TS</a>]
02:05:29 ◼ ► everything from the blue like nothing is boy is she there everything is sorta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7529">TS</a>]
02:05:33 ◼ ► it's not it's not a gold gold phone is not a hot pink phone everything has sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7533">TS</a>]
02:05:39 ◼ ► of this layer of conservatism that way but just a restraint on it I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7539">TS</a>]
02:05:46 ◼ ► else I guess the only thing I can think of right off the top of my head cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7546">TS</a>]
02:05:49 ◼ ► with the iPhone 6 and success success + would be the live pictures feature that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7549">TS</a>]
02:05:55 ◼ ► and I was really impressed with the camera that was a big question to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7555">TS</a>]
02:05:58 ◼ ► yea well and you know I guess they're semi related it's you know there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7558">TS</a>]
02:06:03 ◼ ► lot of arguments last weekend xoxo about whether live pictures are a new thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7563">TS</a>]
02:06:09 ◼ ► whether they're they're just videos just do it like I just had this convo joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7569">TS</a>]
02:06:15 ◼ ► that no can but that everything in 1812 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7575">TS</a>]
02:06:18 ◼ ► they've been live pictures on Windows Phone it been like pictures on HTC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7578">TS</a>]
02:06:21 ◼ ► phones before but whoever invented at first it's like who's being first in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7581">TS</a>]
02:06:25 ◼ ► comment section on the internet first first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7585">TS</a>]
02:06:27 ◼ ► makes a successful that really press it reminds me of the photos in the Daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7587">TS</a>]
02:06:33 ◼ ► Prophet and the waterworld it you know I don't know they're still those who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7593">TS</a>]
02:06:40 ◼ ► visually impressive we saw the movie is definitely there also visually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7600">TS</a>]
02:06:44 ◼ ► impressive at Universal Studios when you look at them when you go through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7604">TS</a>]
02:06:47 ◼ ► rides down there and I don't know what you have but I when I was talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7607">TS</a>]
02:06:50 ◼ ► Apple they were very careful not to call them videos but to say that these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7610">TS</a>]
02:06:53 ◼ ► still photos being taken in quick succession and we didn't want to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7613">TS</a>]
02:06:56 ◼ ► sound like they were just doing a quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7616">TS</a>]
02:06:58 ◼ ► wasn't some wasn't even so much that they wouldn't said that their videos if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7618">TS</a>]
02:07:02 ◼ ► you call them videos they would they would know they're not videos these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7622">TS</a>]
02:07:06 ◼ ► live photos you know videos videos in these real life photos are 12 megapixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7626">TS</a>]
02:07:11 ◼ ► yeah but yeah I think the camera is impressive but that's the sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7631">TS</a>]
02:07:18 ◼ ► that really hard to tell from their demos and and you certainly can't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7638">TS</a>]
02:07:22 ◼ ► any pictures and hands-on area that that prove anything but there is anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7642">TS</a>]
02:07:26 ◼ ► me was that when you generally a lot of times when you take account when you add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/7646">TS</a>]
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02:18:12 ◼ ► one of the things that I think most annoys people in an apple from Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8292">TS</a>]
02:18:18 ◼ ► I think down but especially to the people who work on this stuff is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8298">TS</a>]
02:18:20 ◼ ► really annoys them that there's there's this widespread belief that our poll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8300">TS</a>]
02:18:25 ◼ ► purposefully makes a new version of iOS make your old jeans low old farm fields [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8305">TS</a>]
02:18:31 ◼ ► low so that you'll upgrade to a new phone right away but Google iPhone slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8311">TS</a>]
02:18:34 ◼ ► at peak velocity because every single iPhone in the world is updated on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8314">TS</a>]
02:18:38 ◼ ► same day where every Android phone on other days so they Google that over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8318">TS</a>]
02:18:42 ◼ ► Kentucky right doesn't peak and that's not to say that it hasn't happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8322">TS</a>]
02:18:47 ◼ ► that's not to say that I haven't been iOS update that have performed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8327">TS</a>]
02:18:50 ◼ ► disappointingly on all the hardware and especially if you're maybe two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8330">TS</a>]
02:18:54 ◼ ► behind and there's the pay isn't Apple the one angle is isn't it great that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8334">TS</a>]
02:19:00 ◼ ► Apple supports so many years back of iPhone models as opposed to Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8340">TS</a>]
02:19:05 ◼ ► where you know this year's new version of Android you know it often is only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8345">TS</a>]
02:19:10 ◼ ► available on phones going back one year but the flip side of that is that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8350">TS</a>]
02:19:15 ◼ ► have been some releases where the lowest reported phone especially before this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8355">TS</a>]
02:19:20 ◼ ► worse than that and you know it is what it is and whether there to mistaken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8360">TS</a>]
02:19:28 ◼ ► outdoor strategically part but the people you know who hear it they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8368">TS</a>]
02:19:32 ◼ ► they're nothing but disappointed in themselves for they really are na na [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8372">TS</a>]
02:19:36 ◼ ► really do their interest is not in selling their primary interest is not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8376">TS</a>]
02:19:42 ◼ ► selling this year's new phone right now to as many people as possible their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8382">TS</a>]
02:19:46 ◼ ► interest is in making as many people as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8386">TS</a>]
02:19:48 ◼ ► happy and satisfied I I fung customers so that their next phone whenever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8388">TS</a>]
02:19:53 ◼ ► buy it will be an iPhone and that one way that the easiest way they could burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8393">TS</a>]
02:19:57 ◼ ► through that is by making people think things like hey Apple is just trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8397">TS</a>]
02:20:03 ◼ ► screw with the iOS updates you know and make your phone feels sOooo when I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8403">TS</a>]
02:20:07 ◼ ► they're gonna support everything that I always support I felt that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8407">TS</a>]
02:20:10 ◼ ► probably pretty confident that got this under control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8410">TS</a>]
02:20:12 ◼ ► yeah I think so I have heard and I even announced this I don't even know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8412">TS</a>]
02:20:17 ◼ ► don't know why they would but I go back to the BC I had heard that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8417">TS</a>]
02:20:21 ◼ ► doing a lot more you know have engineer's actually carry older phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8421">TS</a>]
02:20:27 ◼ ► for some period of time during development or for whatever they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8427">TS</a>]
02:20:30 ◼ ► working on and so that it's not just like go install it on an iPhone 5 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8430">TS</a>]
02:20:36 ◼ ► run a few tests and see if it's alright but you know have you know do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8436">TS</a>]
02:20:40 ◼ ► serious dog food in on older iPhones themselves just to sort of keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8440">TS</a>]
02:20:45 ◼ ► themselves honest no better motivator in the world I don't know if that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8445">TS</a>]
02:20:49 ◼ ► though does it mean how do you find the volunteers to do that what is going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8449">TS</a>]
02:21:00 ◼ ► this isn't something even having read review I'm not 100% sure on so with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8460">TS</a>]
02:21:05 ◼ ► new notes the new notes is a major major update it really does a you say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8465">TS</a>]
02:21:11 ◼ ► previously used Apple's built-in notes as sort of a and it's exactly how I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8471">TS</a>]
02:21:15 ◼ ► used it for a long time as a multi device multi-platform clipart where for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8475">TS</a>]
02:21:21 ◼ ► a couple of pieces a text or URLs or something like that something we're even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8481">TS</a>]
02:21:25 ◼ ► like handoff isn't quite what you want is you want to do it later or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8485">TS</a>]
02:21:28 ◼ ► yes just put something here and then I know from there you know whether my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8488">TS</a>]
02:21:33 ◼ ► phone or whether my Mac I can put something there and then later when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8493">TS</a>]
02:21:37 ◼ ► on something else I can go and I know where it is I can get it and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8497">TS</a>]
02:21:40 ◼ ► usually I just delete them you know it's a little temporary things and that notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8500">TS</a>]
02:21:45 ◼ ► now the built-in note app is now a serious note app and its God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8505">TS</a>]
02:21:49 ◼ ► you know a lot more pages like features with titles and headings and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8509">TS</a>]
02:21:56 ◼ ► styles and and built-in checklists and more features related to image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8516">TS</a>]
02:22:03 ◼ ► attachments and you can do doodles and am now to ya in a van and its pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8523">TS</a>]
02:22:08 ◼ ► centered on a success which is really nice that's crazy yeah but I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8528">TS</a>]
02:22:15 ◼ ► don't see that and I think it's because I haven't hit the Upgrade button is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8535">TS</a>]
02:22:19 ◼ ► right is that that's the that's the thing you have to do to get those new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8539">TS</a>]
02:22:23 ◼ ► features and then the hits with the Upgrade button it is certainly going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8543">TS</a>]
02:22:27 ◼ ► from the old notes to the new notes and when you go to the new notes that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8547">TS</a>]
02:22:33 ◼ ► biggest thing is that sinking only takes place through iCloud drive and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8553">TS</a>]
02:22:38 ◼ ► it's no longer doing that hack that use based on IMAP folders yes but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8558">TS</a>]
02:22:45 ◼ ► hitches once you've done it you kind of guys you know you gotta get everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8565">TS</a>]
02:22:50 ◼ ► on the latest and greatest in the thing I've been putting off and probably will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8570">TS</a>]
02:22:54 ◼ ► put off for awhile is upgrading my max to El Capitan yeah it's because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8574">TS</a>]
02:22:59 ◼ ► still there early and I don't want them to release everything on the same day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8579">TS</a>]
02:23:02 ◼ ► but every year now we're having this thing where half of something is ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8582">TS</a>]
02:23:05 ◼ ► on iOS in September and you have to wait till October to have the other half I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8585">TS</a>]
02:23:09 ◼ ► think I was like wow drive last year and it was something else the year before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8589">TS</a>]
02:23:13 ◼ ► yeah so if anybody out there is is is confused I i thought i had the story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8593">TS</a>]
02:23:17 ◼ ► has wanted to make sure that you said there's confused why they can't put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8597">TS</a>]
02:23:21 ◼ ► doodles under note even after the upgrade to iOS nine it's it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8601">TS</a>]
02:23:25 ◼ ► you're like me and you didn't do this upgrade which they're very clear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8605">TS</a>]
02:23:28 ◼ ► they did once you upgrade this than the sinking you meet your need remarks on El [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8608">TS</a>]
02:23:31 ◼ ► Capitan to do the same thing and if you're not just not capable of sinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8611">TS</a>]
02:23:36 ◼ ► all the data types that are in the nu-notes up yeah I don't blame them I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8616">TS</a>]
02:23:39 ◼ ► don't in fact that makes it makes more I'd be more worried if they let it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8619">TS</a>]
02:23:43 ◼ ► they tried to do you know I really would because the whole IMAP thinking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8623">TS</a>]
02:23:47 ◼ ► notes did was a clever work around but it's a terrible terrible act like using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8627">TS</a>]
02:23:52 ◼ ► IMAP as the sinking back for note is is just a terrible hack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8632">TS</a>]
02:23:58 ◼ ► yeah yeah and this is a nice clean modern not just a nice clean modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8638">TS</a>]
02:24:03 ◼ ► those happen a nice clean modern architecture yeah so I'm really looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8643">TS</a>]
02:24:07 ◼ ► forward to that but I want to see it what about Apple news to use it I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8647">TS</a>]
02:24:14 ◼ ► used it a little bit album uses one of those things where it's not it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8654">TS</a>]
02:24:17 ◼ ► officially supported in the USA right now it's supposed to be in the UK and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8657">TS</a>]
02:24:20 ◼ ► Australia there was an article saying it's being delayed in the UK and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8660">TS</a>]
02:24:24 ◼ ► why I had to flip my my iphone to the USA where to get it and I'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8664">TS</a>]
02:24:28 ◼ ► directions and Miles whatever the hell those are but it's it it's in his people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8668">TS</a>]
02:24:33 ◼ ► weren't putting content in yet it wasn't really switched on but it's a huge huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8673">TS</a>]
02:24:38 ◼ ► interesting thing for me because it really worthwhile of wired and Vanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8678">TS</a>]
02:24:42 ◼ ► Fair article to make content specific for Apple news and to sell ads and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8682">TS</a>]
02:24:46 ◼ ► you can finally in your old as but you can also sell I at specifically for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8686">TS</a>]
02:24:50 ◼ ► and this goes into the whole content locker discussion but a lot of companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8690">TS</a>]
02:24:54 ◼ ► don't want to have to deal with that complexity they want one place to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8694">TS</a>]
02:24:57 ◼ ► sell as in one place to go to buy ads and they want one type of content that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8697">TS</a>]
02:25:01 ◼ ► they can spit out a PDF wrapping and put it everywhere so I i just want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8701">TS</a>]
02:25:05 ◼ ► what sort of reward Apple gives people whether it's going to be huge volumes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8705">TS</a>]
02:25:09 ◼ ► eyeballs to make someone put in the effort to support all of this I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8709">TS</a>]
02:25:13 ◼ ► I've tried to get into it and it just never sticks and there's nothing I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8713">TS</a>]
02:25:16 ◼ ► put my finger on that's wrong with it and sometimes i've you know i've found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8716">TS</a>]
02:25:20 ◼ ► plenty of you know articles that I've enjoyed but I never find my I always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8720">TS</a>]
02:25:25 ◼ ► only reason I ever go to it is cuz I think I want to get to know this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8725">TS</a>]
02:25:29 ◼ ► know this is new it's important to me I mean it seems important couple levels as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8729">TS</a>]
02:25:32 ◼ ► user but it also seems important to me as the guy runs during Firebug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8732">TS</a>]
02:25:36 ◼ ► understand this but the only reason I ever launched it and I've been like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8736">TS</a>]
02:25:39 ◼ ► said I've been running since since July I only go there when I force myself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8739">TS</a>]
02:25:45 ◼ ► go there it just isn't for me I don't find it compelling but I don't know CIA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8745">TS</a>]
02:25:51 ◼ ► it's one of the things that this is a nap in particular I really want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8751">TS</a>]
02:25:54 ◼ ► to know that it really like what do i do what does John Gruber do in some sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8754">TS</a>]
02:26:01 ◼ ► junkie like what I do is like my my career is being an obsessive news junkie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8761">TS</a>]
02:26:08 ◼ ► region region read and so maybe it's no surprise that this isn't for me this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8768">TS</a>]
02:26:13 ◼ ► meant for people who aren't news junkies so they don't have to be a news junkie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8773">TS</a>]
02:26:17 ◼ ► to stay up-to-date what a weird experience too because it does run off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8777">TS</a>]
02:26:20 ◼ ► of IRS as somebody a lot of a lot of people don't give full RSS feeds and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8780">TS</a>]
02:26:25 ◼ ► start reading a paragraph have to tap a button and you go into a web you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8785">TS</a>]
02:26:29 ◼ ► think of Safari view controller and then you can't like you can go to I can go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8789">TS</a>]
02:26:33 ◼ ► doing fireball but if I've heard that John had a great article on something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8793">TS</a>]
02:26:36 ◼ ► can't search to find that I have to swipe to find it if I go to the topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8796">TS</a>]
02:26:40 ◼ ► that you wrote about I can't find that publication so it it's not really it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8800">TS</a>]
02:26:44 ◼ ► not really suited to someone who's used to a net newswire or reader or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8804">TS</a>]
02:26:48 ◼ ► like that it really is meant it is way better in many ways than the news stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8808">TS</a>]
02:26:53 ◼ ► out because not everything is a completely different user experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8813">TS</a>]
02:26:56 ◼ ► every time you launch it but it feels like one of those things where it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8816">TS</a>]
02:26:59 ◼ ► take a year from now we'll see if it's either really really good or is just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8819">TS</a>]
02:27:03 ◼ ► gonna go yeah it's nothing like news tenders newsstand was at the root level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8823">TS</a>]
02:27:07 ◼ ► nothing but literally I mean it was a great name for newsday and with well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8827">TS</a>]
02:27:12 ◼ ► named I don't think it was a great idea but it was well named because it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8832">TS</a>]
02:27:15 ◼ ► like going to a newsstand you to see a bunch of covers for publications and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8835">TS</a>]
02:27:20 ◼ ► anything you learned last from newsday when you look at a real news dan you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8840">TS</a>]
02:27:23 ◼ ► be able to read the headlines on the companies you to pick something and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8843">TS</a>]
02:27:27 ◼ ► go off and everything remains in its own silo like without news stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8847">TS</a>]
02:27:30 ◼ ► intermingled and you'll get like a thing from the new york times and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8850">TS</a>]
02:27:34 ◼ ► from Sports Illustrated and whatever but it just isn't for me and I didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8854">TS</a>]
02:27:41 ◼ ► expect it to be but it you know I'm just curious to see what it rolls out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8861">TS</a>]
02:27:46 ◼ ► yeah and also it's like they've had they've been doing things with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8866">TS</a>]
02:27:49 ◼ ► service in the back on for a long time no idea is going to be like Apple music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8869">TS</a>]
02:27:52 ◼ ► where you go to for you it wants to learn about your preferences and present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8872">TS</a>]
02:27:55 ◼ ► you with a bunch of interesting stuff you may not have found yet but how well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8875">TS</a>]
02:27:59 ◼ ► that hits and misses will determine a great deal with the value is to you yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8879">TS</a>]
02:28:02 ◼ ► I thought it was so interesting I love the way that you include in your links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8882">TS</a>]
02:28:09 ◼ ► your links to all your previous reviews and you have the icons icon logos that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8889">TS</a>]
02:28:15 ◼ ► Apple is used for each OS release in the 1789 or just ordered the same except yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8895">TS</a>]
02:28:22 ◼ ► it's just 789 you know I wonder I actually didn't even notice to the nines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8902">TS</a>]
02:28:29 ◼ ► look somewhere but I bet they switched the ninety San Francisco from Helvetica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8909">TS</a>]
02:28:32 ◼ ► Neue but they're all the same and whereas the ones for 23456 are all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8912">TS</a>]
02:28:40 ◼ ► reflect whatever the tennessee was at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8920">TS</a>]
02:28:43 ◼ ► yeah I think it really is what I mentioned you you know a while back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8923">TS</a>]
02:28:48 ◼ ► this episode that it it just shows that the design of Iowa 7 has really started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8928">TS</a>]
02:28:52 ◼ ► starting with i seven really heard anything else I can think of that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8932">TS</a>]
02:29:00 ◼ ► i really wanna hit hit your thinking on you know just item by item i know im [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8940">TS</a>]
02:29:05 ◼ ► just gonna send people to just go reed relays review the show's gone on long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8945">TS</a>]
02:29:09 ◼ ► enough but what about the deep linking that to me so you know mutual friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8949">TS</a>]
02:29:15 ◼ ► Mark Harmon has an app called overcast and I was just playing around with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8955">TS</a>]
02:29:18 ◼ ► and I had an episode airing fireballer ATP or something and I said remind me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8958">TS</a>]
02:29:23 ◼ ► this and it said ok I'll remind you this little overcast icon in and then I won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8963">TS</a>]
02:29:27 ◼ ► listen to a bunch of other shows that it went back to reminders and tapped on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8967">TS</a>]
02:29:30 ◼ ► and it took me back to the episode I wanted to be reminded of swiping Marconi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8970">TS</a>]
02:29:34 ◼ ► said did you set this up he said no and I are looking into a new turns out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8974">TS</a>]
02:29:38 ◼ ► because it enabled continuity company does the activity indexing that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8978">TS</a>]
02:29:42 ◼ ► exactly what they were using an air using that for the back button then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8982">TS</a>]
02:29:45 ◼ ► were using that not in a creepy way so basically any time you leavin out just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8985">TS</a>]
02:29:48 ◼ ► drops a bookmark and then it'll take you right back to their any time you leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8988">TS</a>]
02:29:52 ◼ ► reminder just drops a bookmark to where you were in takes you right back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8992">TS</a>]
02:29:55 ◼ ► their and this is a technology that they created for continuity and is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8995">TS</a>]
02:29:59 ◼ ► cause new technology that let you move your website to a nap back and forth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/8999">TS</a>]
02:30:04 ◼ ► they use that essentially for Universal Inc so if I get a Twitter article in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9004">TS</a>]
02:30:07 ◼ ► messages I can tap on it and instead of going to mobile doc twitter.com like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9007">TS</a>]
02:30:11 ◼ ► animal I go to the Twitter app and if that were not installed it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9011">TS</a>]
02:30:15 ◼ ► guarantee universal it goes back to the mobile Twitter site and all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9015">TS</a>]
02:30:19 ◼ ► things just work seamlessly at i think is what they're calling it he must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9019">TS</a>]
02:30:23 ◼ ► existing technologies so you know it really take off market had to do extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9023">TS</a>]
02:30:26 ◼ ► work to support it wouldn't bother me that much but you know he's got enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9026">TS</a>]
02:30:29 ◼ ► to do already and he got all of that for free essentially and to me that's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9029">TS</a>]
02:30:33 ◼ ► the really awesome aspects of iOS nine is how it took all this stuff and gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9033">TS</a>]
02:30:37 ◼ ► us tremendous new features for almost no effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9037">TS</a>]
02:30:40 ◼ ► yeah and I also think it it's it's at no additional cognitive load on the user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9040">TS</a>]
02:30:46 ◼ ► figure it out and you get the hang of it you you you're moving around faster but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9046">TS</a>]
02:30:51 ◼ ► if you don't if you just ignore it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9051">TS</a>]
02:30:53 ◼ ► you're not you're not bothered by anything new there is nothing new to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9053">TS</a>]
02:30:57 ◼ ► I i almost worried that some of the the richness of this is just going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9057">TS</a>]
02:31:02 ◼ ► unnoticed because it's so it's so not in your face but like I would have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9062">TS</a>]
02:31:09 ◼ ► even thought that I that's something that's new to me that you can just go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9069">TS</a>]
02:31:13 ◼ ► Syrian what so you're listening to show and then you jump to Siri and say remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9073">TS</a>]
02:31:18 ◼ ► me of this later it's not just a show but if you send me a text message or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9078">TS</a>]
02:31:22 ◼ ► get an email on you just remind me of this and it'll put the icon for that app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9082">TS</a>]
02:31:26 ◼ ► into reminders and deep link to the spot in the app that when you were in when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9086">TS</a>]
02:31:32 ◼ ► yeah I can just imagine right now how many listeners of this podcast are right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9092">TS</a>]
02:31:36 ◼ ► now in in overcast listening to us say this and they're trying it right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9096">TS</a>]
02:31:41 ◼ ► saying remind me of this later and they're making a reminder of this mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9101">TS</a>]
02:31:45 ◼ ► you talking about this right now it's great and you can say things like remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9105">TS</a>]
02:31:49 ◼ ► me of this book remind me to listen to this when I get in the car and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9109">TS</a>]
02:31:52 ◼ ► plug into a car kit nose ear plugs into a car and all day it's just very clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9112">TS</a>]
02:31:56 ◼ ► the thing that really hit me is the back buttons that go in the top left like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9116">TS</a>]
02:32:02 ◼ ► when you jump to a web link from something and then Safari has a back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9122">TS</a>]
02:32:06 ◼ ► wherever you're from back to me looked clever and I thought this was this soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9126">TS</a>]
02:32:14 ◼ ► as I saw the WTC I thought that what about the same as the case but some were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9134">TS</a>]
02:32:18 ◼ ► abusing it is the case where for years and one of my pet peeves have been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9138">TS</a>]
02:32:25 ◼ ► hardware or system-level back buttons on Android and Windows Phone and and to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9145">TS</a>]
02:32:32 ◼ ► it's the single biggest mistake that Windows Phone made because Android was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9152">TS</a>]
02:32:35 ◼ ► already out and the designers of Windows Phone which i think is a really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9155">TS</a>]
02:32:39 ◼ ► designed system overall really should have seen the inherent problems of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9159">TS</a>]
02:32:45 ◼ ► button and again like everything that tradeoff there are times when you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9165">TS</a>]
02:32:51 ◼ ► want a go back to where I was right before this even if it's a different app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9171">TS</a>]
02:32:55 ◼ ► you've done you've opened a link your browser window now you wanna go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9175">TS</a>]
02:33:00 ◼ ► where you were and that's the counter argument from the Android people as to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9180">TS</a>]
02:33:05 ◼ ► why this good design but among the many problems that I've had every time I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9185">TS</a>]
02:33:12 ◼ ► ever used two hundred fundamental how long how long are given with it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9192">TS</a>]
02:33:15 ◼ ► for every time that it works and takes you back where you want to go there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9195">TS</a>]
02:33:19 ◼ ► all the other time where it takes you somewhere where you didn't want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9199">TS</a>]
02:33:23 ◼ ► yeah they can fight inter and intra navigation collisions that's exactly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9203">TS</a>]
02:33:29 ◼ ► in the truck and Intermap navigation and it's just never labeled it's just a back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9209">TS</a>]
02:33:36 ◼ ► but whereas in iOS it extremely clear it tells you exactly where you'll be going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9216">TS</a>]
02:33:42 ◼ ► back and it only it is only up there for when it remains contextual useful so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9222">TS</a>]
02:33:48 ◼ ► like if you switch from male to Safari it's up there and if you just stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9228">TS</a>]
02:33:52 ◼ ► around and Safari make a new taps and stuff it goes away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9232">TS</a>]
02:33:55 ◼ ► yeah it's great and the Safari view controller doesn't have a back button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9235">TS</a>]
02:33:58 ◼ ► you can just swipe backwards but then there's collisions about swiping back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9238">TS</a>]
02:34:03 ◼ ► inside the controller and through the apps I understand why that's like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9243">TS</a>]
02:34:07 ◼ ► but you can just use almost you don't have to do the double click anymore in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9247">TS</a>]
02:34:11 ◼ ► the hunt for your appetite to the home screen and try to hunt back where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9251">TS</a>]
02:34:14 ◼ ► going to you you can just go to the net go right back and the iPhone is a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9254">TS</a>]
02:34:18 ◼ ► column is not like the iPad where for example you can just tap a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9258">TS</a>]
02:34:21 ◼ ► messages in the list view and see the details change quickly you had to tap go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9261">TS</a>]
02:34:25 ◼ ► to another message tab go to the message that messages go out and they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9265">TS</a>]
02:34:29 ◼ ► all this stuff from the back link in the deep linking to the 3d touch to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9269">TS</a>]
02:34:33 ◼ ► navigating a single column interface just accelerated yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9273">TS</a>]
02:34:39 ◼ ► if there's anything that surprised me and how much it affected just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9279">TS</a>]
02:34:43 ◼ ► affected like to take revolutionized my use of the iPhone 4 iOS and general's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9283">TS</a>]
02:34:50 ◼ ► office supplies to the iPad as well but it's it's that yeah I i just i cant live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9290">TS</a>]
02:34:57 ◼ ► without it I went back to using iOS a point for device 10 music was coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9297">TS</a>]
02:35:01 ◼ ► I kept trying to hit it wasn't there and it really was a blockage in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9301">TS</a>]
02:35:05 ◼ ► anything else you want to say before before we truly wrapped up on me out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9305">TS</a>]
02:35:12 ◼ ► I could talk to you for another three hours about I was nine but we've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9312">TS</a>]
02:35:16 ◼ ► guy like the multitasking I really like that the multitasking I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9316">TS</a>]
02:35:19 ◼ ► limited and other devices but they did give the slide over so even if you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9319">TS</a>]
02:35:22 ◼ ► an older iPod you can use that but just the ability to have multiple apps there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9322">TS</a>]
02:35:26 ◼ ► and to start your own affiliate to all the time but when you do need it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9326">TS</a>]
02:35:30 ◼ ► you're watching something in tweets are coming in or if you try to refer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9330">TS</a>]
02:35:33 ◼ ► write notes what you're referring to a web pages as another way we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9333">TS</a>]
02:35:36 ◼ ► enables you to do more without continuously Kara selling out to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9336">TS</a>]
02:35:39 ◼ ► different apt and that to me the tremendous time saver yeah and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9339">TS</a>]
02:35:43 ◼ ► that thing you have to get used to is it comes it'll come to you if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9343">TS</a>]
02:35:47 ◼ ► anything about it but you have to get used to it if you see two things on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9347">TS</a>]
02:35:49 ◼ ► screen at once the one on the left is primary in the one on the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9349">TS</a>]
02:35:53 ◼ ► secondary even if you're fifty 50 even if Icahn iPad you've gone to fifty 50 if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9353">TS</a>]
02:35:58 ◼ ► you command tab the command tab is switching the primary and the secondary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9358">TS</a>]
02:36:03 ◼ ► as a secondary and you just remember just remember that primaries on laughs I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9363">TS</a>]
02:36:07 ◼ ► can do is on the right and you can switch if you want and it it all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9367">TS</a>]
02:36:13 ◼ ► sort of makes sense as the thing on the left is exactly what you're used to NIS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9373">TS</a>]
02:36:18 ◼ ► since forever and the thing on the right is a new thing you're able to do which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9378">TS</a>]
02:36:23 ◼ ► is you're allowed to have a secondary thing open on the right and you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9383">TS</a>]
02:36:28 ◼ ► if anybody out there is concern that this is adding I mean it's obviously is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9388">TS</a>]
02:36:32 ◼ ► adding complexity but it's not adding to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9392">TS</a>]
02:36:39 ◼ ► confusion hey don't have to I mean it's one of those things where like noted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9399">TS</a>]
02:36:43 ◼ ► those people just don't know that notification center or control center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9403">TS</a>]
02:36:46 ◼ ► there is a wonderful experience about any of that stuff but if you do need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9406">TS</a>]
02:36:50 ◼ ► it's almost like depth of design people who are just not only interested they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9410">TS</a>]
02:36:54 ◼ ► get the first layer in their happy but if you want to put in the effort and dig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9414">TS</a>]
02:36:57 ◼ ► deeper you have greater levels of functionality I think that's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9417">TS</a>]
02:37:00 ◼ ► good way of staging design yeah it's amazing how much that they've gotten out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9420">TS</a>]
02:37:04 ◼ ► of sight swipes over the years from now and I don't think there is anything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9424">TS</a>]
02:37:09 ◼ ► found there was nothing that you got from any of the sides there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9429">TS</a>]
02:37:13 ◼ ► control center there's no control center known advocate no notification center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9433">TS</a>]
02:37:18 ◼ ► and now it's you know but it's if you've discovered either of those things the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9438">TS</a>]
02:37:25 ◼ ► way these dots slide in from the side to open up a second app is is very natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9445">TS</a>]
02:37:29 ◼ ► and they're in the same thing with three types are using a consistently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9449">TS</a>]
02:37:33 ◼ ► inconsistency is a user facing feature because if you can't predict to rely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9453">TS</a>]
02:37:37 ◼ ► you stop trying but if it's there when you when you did you think about using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9457">TS</a>]
02:37:40 ◼ ► it it becomes natural then it becomes part of your workflow yeah that's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9460">TS</a>]
02:37:44 ◼ ► the things I'm really curious about is I was nine rolls out in the real world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9464">TS</a>]
02:37:47 ◼ ► as a you know whom I like going to a coffee shop and see what devices people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9467">TS</a>]
02:37:51 ◼ ► are using them you know I'm keen to key airports is another place where I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9471">TS</a>]
02:37:57 ◼ ► doing keen to see whether this become something like when you're going back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9477">TS</a>]
02:38:01 ◼ ► your seat from the restroom on an airplane in you're just looking at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9481">TS</a>]
02:38:04 ◼ ► devices people are using how many people are using split-screen iPad yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9484">TS</a>]
02:38:12 ◼ ► Rene Ritchie thank you for your time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9492">TS</a>]
02:38:17 ◼ ► people can get more number one you can go to buy more dot com right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9497">TS</a>]
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02:38:38 ◼ ► we talked to developers about developer stuff we do vector with George and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9518">TS</a>]
02:38:43 ◼ ► Davis case which is more about how humanity effects technology and I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9523">TS</a>]
02:38:46 ◼ ► with Seth and Mark Edwards about design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9526">TS</a>]
02:38:49 ◼ ► well there we go down to podcaster prolific slowed down a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuw-N8Qc/9529">TS</a>]