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00:00:49 ◼ ► I don't have a lot going on new iMacs no no no no no MacBooks no new MacBooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/49">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► they are still on the on the watch list I don't know if we'll get new MacBooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/57">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► before the end of the year I would have guessed I think if we would have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/60">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► yeah yeah I don't see there's no need to have a third nonexistent event this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/64">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► where I being a podcaster I'm starting to get lazy I'm not super well informed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/71">TS</a>]
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00:01:26 ◼ ► bit early and was able to basically an FAQ of epic proportions to fill out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/86">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► we've got new 21.5 inch iMacs is the biggest news and they are for cairo it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/91">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► only like the original 27 inch iMac it's only the top end model that threaten us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/98">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► you can still get 21.5 inch iMac Center your normal for her than average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/104">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► resolution quality in comparison to the rest of the Mac and iOS line but those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/111">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► finance for K or slightly more than four ka think it's like fork 8.5 with in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/117">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► cruised color definition they're using the same I don't know the phrase off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/125">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► top of my head because of a bad film student but they're basically using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► same color profiles as you would with the digital projectors so it allows it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/134">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► to be more true to life when you're editing when your color correcting video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/140">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► and photo photography and the 27 inch iMacs get that you don't get a boost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/143">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► above their five k they're still five K and medical and fire to just get sucked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/148">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► into their beautiful screen but they also have improved definition and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/155">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► get sky Lake Intel's next-generation processor has been a long time coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/159">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► but no Thunderbolt three and the 21.5 inch iMacs are still stuck on rockwell's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/165">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► because the integrated Intel processor graphics processor doesn't play nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/171">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► with yet because route maps yeah so now my year old 5 can act it is outdated a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/176">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► little bit outdated I was eight I was looking at some of the best I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/186">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► Jason Snell's review had a national benchmarks from deep bench and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/188">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► saying oh yeah the new 21.5 inch iMac outpaces 445 K 27 inch iMacs I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/192">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► glad I waited now though I'm still I'm gonna go in for the 21.5 inches so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/200">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► 27 inches still gonna cook bacon with fancy sky like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/207">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► jumbled I don't feel too bad about it all you got a whole year as the king of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/212">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► the hill and I still subscribe to the III like to buy a Mac accident and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/218">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► use it until four years until it gets low as I still find it even with Dropbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/224">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► iCloud and other things I still find it takes me forever to get a Mac setup just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/229">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► the way I want yes even though I mean it's been it's gotten a lot better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/235">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► it used to be where I still remember the days of just having to clone my hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/238">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► drive because the idea of reinstalling all of my applications and to you my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/242">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► throw up but yeah I i feel the same way I still have a 2008 MacBook Pro unibody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/248">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► MacBook Pro that I put an SSD end three years ago and it's still almost as fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/256">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► as my macbook air it's a pain in the butt has its fifteen inches and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/262">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► really a super portable machine and it's not right but it's one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/267">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► where like it still perfectly good and it still fast I feel we're just being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/272">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► like no sorry you're gonna go in a drawer anywhere you really can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/278">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► for an iMac no I i really I do what I did last year about this is I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/282">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► bought the best one that they would so I just maxed out the RAM I got the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/287">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► terabyte SST so you know it's like 3003 $3,500 money but my thinking is just max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/292">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► it out and I use it for at least four years and then by the time I upgraded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/304">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► but anyway it's the color stuff hurts a little bit because I think they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/309">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► correct me if I'm wrong you probably know more about this to me to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/315">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► the old consumer gold standard was the sRGB color space yes correct and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/318">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► basic gist if you just want to get a handle on this is that the new color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/325">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► space that that all of these retina displays both the 21 inches and the 27 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/329">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► inch is significantly bigger than sRGB it's it's much more of a pro color space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/336">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► very much so I'm very very similar to the kind of output that you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/342">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► get onto shore projectors and i'm looking up for days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/346">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► FAQ now so I can actually have specific terms they're using DCI P three which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/349">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► the same color spaces by digital movie theaters and they're using a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/356">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► led type display now it's a more advanced red green phosphor led which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/361">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► allows them to do better color balance and hit wider ranges of colors that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/369">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► combined with the new Ghostface really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► really makes for some crystal clear photos and video did not not that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/375">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► five kids was hurting in that before but I do feel that professional professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/380">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► editors are going to hear that and just be like why don't I own this machine why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/387">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► can't I just replace it away I can't I just have to spend a ton of money and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/395">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► think it's funny it's funny the way that even with the max they're sort of as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/399">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► they marched towards this already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/404">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► lineup I mean it's it's year-by-year March for now it's by far the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/407">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► overwhelming majority of the project products are alright finally and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/413">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► funny the way it sort of follows like the president that they've set with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/418">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► iPad's like to me that that 21 inch iMac is sorta like the iPad Mini compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/422">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► the iPad air which is the 27 inch iMac so it gets everything the year ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/431">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► because retina first now a year later you can only get the 27 engine red and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/435">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► the 21 inch does exactly what the 27 instead last year which is there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/443">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► high-end model with a Retina display but you can still get that done so my guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/448">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► is by next year there will be no more naan bread IMAX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/453">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► their only be even higher resolution written IMAX yeah yeah i i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/457">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► this from a business standpoint it seems like a good way to rule things out at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/462">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► the lake over these displays are too expensive for your average user to want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/467">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► to wait till three thousand plus dollars so we're gonna put him in the high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/471">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► models for the people who are really going to appreciate them and be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/475">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► spend money on them and then the more money they spend on them the more orders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/478">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► that we can place with our suppliers the more orders we can place their suppliers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/482">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► we can bring the cost down and it just trickles down into the rest of the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/485">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► of the line the what he called the low end model I don't even know what it used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/490">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► to be but it's it is kind of its seems kinda wimpy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/495">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► none of us really talk about her anymore I mean it's gotten away from us but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/503">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► it's half the speed guards as the one that only $400 more kind of sticks out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/508">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► definitely an upsell I mean I have to assume that these the low-end models are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/515">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► really designed for the education market or they're designed for the folks who oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/521">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► well you just need an iMac in your place of business or you need a iMac this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/525">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► essentially a glorified displayed to play a movie on education anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/530">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► because I think that this immense of Education has gone to laptop form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/536">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► factors of you know a lot of Chromebooks let's for sure no question but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/540">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► it doesn't seem to me like school and end is a practical aspect of that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/547">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► like if you're gonna go with IMAX you need to set them up in a permanent spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/551">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► whereas the whole just moving special election but I'm familiar with that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/556">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► son with the elementary school it's that they can take the Chromebooks and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/562">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► MacBooks out when they need them and work we know on the regular desks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/568">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► they used for everything else yeah you don't need to go into a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/574">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► computer and I think I'm more and more thinking administration was exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/576">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► you're looking at your nonprofit's for people who really don't have a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/580">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► budget for their electronics which is sad little bit in 2015 or if you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/584">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► gonna use it as the machine at the front desk for people to sign in or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/589">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► and you really don't need performance if you haven't switched already to an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/594">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► but also people complaining about 900 people are complaining that the hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/598">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► drive is 5400 rpm yeah I'm I'm I would rather complain that they're not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/605">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► by default but you know if I guess we want to complain about hard drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/612">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► we can complain about hard drives me but I think it has something to do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► 21.5 inches 2.5 inch hard drive as opposed to a 3.5 inch drives so little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/621">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► bit trickier there ya in a weird way even though it's 21 inches it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/628">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► like that in some ways I think the guts of a laptop will when you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/633">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► how thin the twenty fun point five inch iMac is and just how much space of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/640">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► has to be filled with oh you know giant retina display and cooling said giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/644">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► Retina Display you really don't have all that much more area to put in high-level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/650">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► chips without necessary unless unless they figure out a way to flatten silicon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/656">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► even more like oh yes we're going to line the edges of the iMac display with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/661">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► with silicon chips now I did notice to the 21 in the storage for flash only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/667">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► a terabyte years but I guess that kind of makes sense I feel like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/676">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► terabyte of fights towards is still very expensive relative to hard drive prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/680">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► for sure and I guess once you're in that sort of budget range you're looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/686">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► the 27 inch anyway yeah when I was pricing out my 20 15 and for me i i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/691">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► prefer slightly the 20 15 space for my desk because I don't know the 27 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/696">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► thick is gorgeous but i feel myself getting lost in that space especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/702">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► retina it's just it's too much too much for me unless I'm editing video in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/706">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► case I'll this is nice pixel for pixel for kate is great but when I was pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/710">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► I was looking at the braces like alright so I'm upgrade to a fusion drive and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/718">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► putting on a magic trackpad because and then i'm looking at the price I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/725">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► this is basically the price of a mid-level high level 27 inch iMac and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/730">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► yeah I think you're absolutely right where people look at that price like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/739">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► well but I could go bigger and bigger would make bigger is always better rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/742">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► and the most part I i you know I get there are certain circumstances where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/747">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► actually think a 21.5 is better than a twenty-seven but I think for the vast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► majority of users alike so I can get a bigger screen for the same amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/755">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► tweaking is you know I would pay for trying to upgrade the internals of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/758">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► twenty 15 sign me up is all of the RAM you know this is the RAM soldered onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/763">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► the motherboard is in the twenty 15 it is not in the twenty 1717 the 28th so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/770">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► it's just another way where there is sort of a consumer's last pro split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/779">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► between 21 and 27 it's very I think the 21 is still very much marketed towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/783">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► the end even the entry level user but the user who either has their first Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/789">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► or is about to get their first Mac and needs a desktop or a laptop and iPad I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/795">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► kind of feel I i understand you know that there's a couple people on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/802">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► and email me about the soldering the RAM and it seems like that's a real sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/807">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► point for certain segment of the audience but I really feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/812">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► almost like we're lucky that you can do it I can hear the machines anymore just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/816">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► your computers from Apple come out of China completely set so my dad you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/823">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► I i've you know take it you know so that the fact that you can still add you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/832">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► do with the RAM on your own on the 27 inch take that as a win and I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/836">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► lose much sleep over the 21.5 being you know you choose either 16 then live with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/841">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► exactly I would I would much prefer to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/847">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► to remove in and cuddle with Ram and there's a there's a model to do that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/850">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► for the again the average user I just don't think there's now and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/855">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► it's another it's another way that the iOS devices again I i you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/860">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► keep asking Apple keeps saying no we're not going to have one operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/865">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► for everything and i really think that they're serious about it but they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/869">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► you you can see where you know one platform is going by where the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/873">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► platform is gone first and the iOS hardware model of there's nothing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/880">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► you can alter or adjust there's no way to put a memory card in to expand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/886">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► storage or anything like that is definitely the way the Mac is heading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/893">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► and I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing anymore I know there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/897">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► of people have been arms words repairable and what if I want to tinker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/904">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► with my computer Bild computer it's just not going to be from Apple I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/907">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► that there's something wrong with Apple saying you know what we know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/916">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► best processors in the market are gonna be we know what the the best memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/919">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► going to be and we're going to package it up in a in a package that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/923">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► makes sense for you as a user that would give you real world usage I mean we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/927">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► never been able to tinker with an iPhone's internals I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► anybody's complaining about that because most people wouldn't know how to even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/934">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► begin to solder microarchitecture it's only because the IMAX architecture is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/937">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► big enough that we at one point we're able to feasibly play around with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/942">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► there were like yeah we can totally build a better computer that Apple no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/946">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► Apple's totally wrong you don't need a us-based you need more than 8 gigabytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/949">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► of RAM and that I kinda agree with the general population but but still I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/953">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► don't think it's necessarily a bad thing and then last you touch son has a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/958">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► minutes ago but it's at this point and I don't think the macros down I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/963">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► some point but who knows when and you don't have to just look at the new Darth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/969">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► Vader Mac Pro you could just look back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/976">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► maybe even gone back close to 10 years now that the Mac Pro just does not see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/979">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► updates anywhere near on a yearly schedule no it doesn't make sense also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/984">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► to be perfectly honest because the Mac Pro as such different internals than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/990">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► other the other two lines and because they're internals are very at least at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/995">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► this point very hog-tied to Intel's rollout schedule like it doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/999">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► sense for the for the Mac Pro to be updated until they can have a processor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► that has full Thunderbolt 3 functionality so they could you know say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► release the retina display with wonderful three so that people could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► have their therefore k display without an iMac but it doesn't like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1015">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► it seems it seems silly to me to push like incremental updates to the MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► Pro or iMac the macro because the only the only people who are buying it are at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► this point are serious Bros because the my Mac has filled that kind of semi-pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► hole so if you're buying a serious pro machine you're only gonna upgrade your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► serious Pro machine like we were talking about earlier when year old pro machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► is about ready to die or if it does something so spectacularly different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► that is going to be better for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► yeah but for some people I think it's clearly the the big iMac 27 inch iMac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► the the proper Pro machine for them like I'm thinking like the top especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► like photographers and video editors because of the extra color space because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► there is no retina display from Apple you know the only way to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► anything like a Retina Display is sort of a hack at this point with the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► it I think it's clearly the better machine but then I wonder if they buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1074">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► them now they're gonna be mad if you know Mac Pros are announced the WBC or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► something like that yeah where they go and now we have a thunderbolt 3 Retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► Display I mean when you're talking about that kind of a space it depends on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► projects you working on right now right if they need retina support if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► working on for gay video and actively doing that for their job they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► to want a good forty monitor and the real question is well can I get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► from a third party and is it still look great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► to you know machine that has DCI color space and use that instead and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► that might be the the side effect will they will they be than grumpy you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► Apple's like yes now we have a probe that supports the retina display there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► but if they needed that functionality six months ago then that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► announcement six months later isn't going to help them to help them finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► this project today maybe you know maybe this is wishful thinking but maybe once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► I feel like in a lot of ways all of these machines that the move to read now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► has been difficult for every single thing because it's always a lot because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► you're effectively going to four times the pixels you know at least at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► point you're gonna say here's a new here's a new machine that replaces one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► from last year and it has four times the pictures right i mean in shows like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► was a huge deal when the iPhone 4 when 2010 and the iMac iPad took a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► follow max took a long time the following was only on one model the 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► inch MacBook Pro at first and I feel like the Mac Pro is the last and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► the hardest because they can't just seal it all up like with a member that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► crazy story about how they got 25 K iMac last year was with this weird internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► how are they driving all those pixels when it seems like there isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► graphics card to do it and they had to write their own you know there are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► ok right now had to invent hardware to do it with a Mac Pro they really are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► stuck waiting on Thunderbolt three cuz it has to be cable yet they can't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► can trade their own graphics controller machine that they're not you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► they just don't have the they don't have the flexibility right now without having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► a displayed they connect via 303 or something along those lines so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► once they make this one going maybe once they make that leap and maybe you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► i i can't help but think it's a 2016 think that at some point in 2016 whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► WTC or next october at the latest that they'll have a Mac Pro update and aid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► you know whatever they're going to call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► Cinema Display Thunderbolt three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► display whatever but a stand-alone Retina Display comfortable or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► better than the five cash Mac display for Mac Pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► by then maybe once they make that leap maybe then the Mac Pro can see slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► more regular incremental updates because they've already made that jump and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► can just sort of keep he maintained right keep dipping in with the latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► and greatest incremental updates from Intel yes I mean until until they decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► to make another logical leap which Intel is unable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► if you like the more time that power pc's and we're suddenly in the early two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► thousands it's it's so weird to me that all of a sudden you know Intel which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► used to hold up this kind of the gold standard of Lake regular text updates is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► now very much a little drunk where her what MacBook Pros were waiting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► probable chips for a very long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► the new I'm actually waiting on Sky lake and and she shipped half-and-half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► stuff is so crazy the macros are probably waiting on Sky leak and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► Thunderball 32 to build proper Cinema Display is why I wonder also how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► AAPL is going to continue being like well we have to wait around for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► manufacturing partners as they really they've cut most of that out on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► the iOS line you know they're they're not waiting around for a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► cause they're building their own chips now I well I don't know I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► they can do that on the high end process ID with it with Intel yea certainly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► right now and then they even in the foreseeable future if you know in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► is rabbit hole we don't have to go down but the whole idea of arm-based max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► clearly in the same way that retina came in at you know step-by-step arm-based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► max if it ever happens are gonna come in not all at once but step by step and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► it's gonna start with the you know one port MacBook oh yeah it all started the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► very low and I don't even yeah I can't I can't imagine and are an arm-based Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► definitely a ways away yeah that's possible but it's you know that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► outside the event horizon and yes I guess the thing that leaves people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► a bad taste amount though is that if you if you are a premium customer and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► it's easy to feel confident that you've got the best thing you can just go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► and you know if your gonna buy an iPhone if you're willing to if you like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► bigger size or just willing to put up with a bigger size if you get the 60 S [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► Plus and you max the storage you know you're getting the best of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► your got the image stabilization on the camera and all the best performance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► if you don't like the bigger size you know exactly what you're missing out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► are you missing out on his image stabilization and you've got the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► iPhone iPad it's really easy to get the best iPad everybody knows that the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► iPad Pro is going to be the most powerful iPad and it's the only one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► has the the new you know pen-based green pencil or pen yeah so you know and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► know what the tradeoff is it's the physical size of the device and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► with these people with a bad taste in our mouths when they've dropped a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► money on a Mac Pro rig is the head that they look around in there like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► yeah I'm it I'm in this purgatory this probe this pro purgatory hell yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► mean I've talked to a lot of I have a lot of friends in the film industry a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► lot of people have been slowly but surely switching away from Mac Pros and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► I guess Mac Pros make sense to a certain extent I guess if you want to rig up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► know a massive yeah I shouldn't say that they don't have the best of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► they do have the best expansion and they do have liked for certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► computationally intensive tasks that the having a course or however many course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► you can make something out of six right you can really you know you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► certain tasks that if you can split them up in parallel like that really you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► see tremendous advantages so there are some but it's a mixed bag for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► you don't have the display anywhere near as nice as 25 came back in a fight you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► know you know for $2000 you can buy an iMac with a better display than than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► know a $20,000 Mac Pro set up twelve 12 core Mac Pros very impressive in such as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► you were saying in some respects but it's interesting to me as somebody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► used to live almost obsessively off of off of two hours and then later the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► Pro early original sort of pre pre cylindrical Pro machine how much I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► fit into that mindset and even you know I don't do nearly as much fun as editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► as I used to but still like the iMac really has become I think the desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► machine for 80 85% of the population including the pros purchased it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► more sense you don't need we don't need the money you think about where the iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► debut trait and Apple had this great great then and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► website that they put up alongside the new iMacs or the like lets remember back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► to 1997 and the original iMac and how much faster our new iMacs are forces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► that the iMac when it came out was very hamstrung in very much a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► consumer-friendly this is the introduced this is your introduction to the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► line device and as it's grown throughout the year is it really has you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► been able to beef up what it can do and how it can compete against the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► and I mean right now is only the latest in a series of dynamic and smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► improvements that you're so you're not going to get the most course you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► gonna get the most RAM and you're not going to be able to slot things in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► out because the screen is what an inch thick but it's it's the better computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► for the majority of people I mean that's that's apples goal right they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► you have to fiddle around with things I linked to that said the other day the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► and it is it's a cool comparison did you know wow how quickly we've you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► say quickly but it bends seventeen years but its feels quick but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► interesting to compare it in this in the context of this discussion of what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► you get if you're a pro and you want to drop as you know get the best you can in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► 1998 anybody with a Mac Pro i SAT with a prospective chief word G three towers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► I'm actually three's a PowerMac 23 would look at the iMac and say well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► cute but there wasn't one single thing about it that was better than you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► performance wiser decided this play why's that you could drive you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► have fun with your little hockey puck mouse an all-in-one computer no use to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► get the hockey puck with the PowerMac to yeah that's right that's right baby yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► whatever anybody I knew with it with a PowerMac upgraded to a Kensington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► oh yes my superior you know I i've brought this up many times before over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► the years but my wife Amy she loved the hockey puck mouse that it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► universally loathed there were people and my wife was one of them she used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► for years afterwards like on subsequent you know she kept she kept her iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► mouse and moved it from computer to computer I I still have my foot I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► like it I didn't like it for certain tasks but it's cute in his own way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► it's it's part of the joy of the iMac I don't know behaviors behaviors can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► somewhere else will hold that thought I'm going to do a sponsor it but we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► go back and we'll talk about the new mouse it's a good segue but first let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► tell everybody about our good friends at Harry's you guys know her as they offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► high-quality razors and blades for a fraction of the price of the big name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► brands brands areas were started by two guys who just wanted a better product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► without paying an arm and a leg shaving stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► razor blades are it's super expensive there's no reason for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► so ares is super serious about this they're not just like some kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► with a by white label razor blades and put their own logo on it ever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► actually we're forcing them from an old really old razor factory in Germany and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► they like the products and I said they bought the factory so these are high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► quality high performing german-made razor blades that Harry's supervises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► themselves the reason they can sell stuff for so much less is that it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► like the whole internet model it's just direct you go to Harry's website you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► sign up and they ship it to you so there's no middlemen there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► distributors there's no retail like every step of the way when you buy razor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► blades like at a Walgreens or even at like Amazon or something like that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► a little bit of markup each step of the way caused a distributor goes to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► retailer and everybody takes a look at how he's just sells these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► direct right from them right to you and the prices are amazing they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► starter set 15 bucks gets you a razor your choice of moisturizing shave cream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► or gel and three razor blades and when you need more blades they are two bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► each or less than eight pack for just 15 bucks but if you want to buy in bulk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► they get cheaper and cheaper 16 pack is 25 bucks if you go to Amazon Gillette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► Fusion 12 pack of blades is 41 bucks so you like half the price of a Gillette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► Fusion totally serious I use myself very very comfortable quality wise I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► mine I don't know longtime listeners of the show know that Harry has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► sponsoring the show for at least two years maybe even longer and they sent me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► one way back when they started I still have that razor handle and i'd i'd i'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► look at it now it looks brand new looks mint condition I could look like I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► just package it up in and so it is meant really high quality stuff so go check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► them out at Harry's dot com and the the code the promo code is the talk show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► if you are a first time customer you will save five bucks off your first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► purchase which means you can get that starter kit for just 10 bucks which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► dot com in the code is the talk show so the other new stuff that Apple announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► this week with these iMacs are all new wireless peripherals new keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► accessories new keyboard a new Magic Trackpad a new Magic Mouse is called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► measure growth which is basically crashes everytime I think of the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► cartoon characters I i you know it's funny because I feel like we get used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► Apple's names and I remember like MacBook was so hard just seems it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► was really hard for me to get out and now you know it's it just just your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► brain gets bludgeoned into accepting it over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► second nature you're like our and I've given up I I won't anymore sorry and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► understand the logic of it because the power and power book was from power PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► and it wasn't really branded by Apple whereas putting back in the name really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► does help it it actually makes some kind of sense that all of the max would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► the word mac in right I understand that but MacBook was somehow a mouthful it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► just doesn't seem like two words that fit quite as well together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► powerbook did but to me them as mad as always embarrasses me everytime I type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► yeah it feels so yes these are different than normal accessories how you ask they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► have the magic trackpad trackpad I can kind of understand it because yes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► does especially with the new improvements to this version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► track pad where it gets the the MacBooks tactic engine and faux clicking here no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► longer to pressing a button you just you're using your using the magic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► course touch and the tactic engine to make it feel like you're looking like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► that I would actually genuinely use it feels like magic because you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► actually clicking on anything but the mouse is still just you and I guess that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► their claim for the magic is that you get both the mouse that moves and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► get the you can do the gestures on the surface but to me it's like that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► just that's just the way you you Apple have chosen to implement the scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► wheels and you know might have done more than just move the cursor around for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► very long time and it's just an implementation detail whether you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► going to use a wheel or that they had little that little ball they had for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► while so truth be told I have not used an apple manufactured mouse on a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► basis since the ADB era the last eight GB Apple mouse which was a one button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2034">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► click a great click and had a great form factor it fit my hand the way that I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► like to hold him out I know ATP has gone wrong on this awhile ago that depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► on it when you learn to use a mouse you grip it in a certain way whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► rest your hand on it or something and I need like a big I don't know much bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► house than the Magic Mouse to be need to fit your hands yeah you need to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► good art because it's the it's the exact opposite problem of our essay on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► keyboard where you don't necessarily want your wrist marked up with a mouse I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► feel like you need you need the comfortable arc to rest your hand on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► if you're going to be resting your hand on him out for a while I'm going around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► and clicking each to feel good and it needs to not feel like your hand is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► dwarfing them out so that you can actually find the buns by touch so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► will confess the mouse that I used to know if I can get a picture of this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► guess I'll try to maybe food show the mouse that I use is at least it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► absolutely positively I bought it in the nineties its from Logitech and even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► the nineties when I bought it I don't think I paid more than $14 for it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► it's so old it I swear to God and laser it has ball man and it is super super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► precise I actually because of our size shoes I use a third-party mouse driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► too had to switch at one point guard steer mouse as ter mo USC's from some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► kind of band that lets you set your mouse speed significantly faster than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► the system mounted in a very fastest speed of the system out so I could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► even mi5 k iMac I can go corner to corner pretty much without even using my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► wrist just my fingers and the ball on this thing is it's so super precise like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► it's a guy so I giant 27 inch screen I have the speed ramped up so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► like my son can even use it he he thinks its crazy cuz he just immediately Rams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► from corner to corner by moving because it's you know the differences so subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► and this mass just has never broken the buttons don't work i mean at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► I guess it's gonna break I mean everybody feels eventually but but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► haven't used in a pond that since when is it connected via USB USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► I was going to ask if you're connected via Skype see you know 20 like crazy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► I do I do still have my keyboard yeah you know I was talking to my dad the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► right after the new accessories came out and he's like rolling his eyes he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► no nothing nothing can be better than my my Kensington track ball and you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► you and this that thing is probably from 1999 to because I remember using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► playing like Star Wars Episode one pod racer something crazy like that so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► definitely I feel like people have very specific preferences with their mice but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► I have to do is to get on eBay and start hunting around for ya but I have to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► a half to get new in box case I mean there is nothing grosser than using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► somebody some mouse that somebody's actually years of fingerprints and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► greasy you Tito fingers and God I'm I am i think im pretty good personal hygiene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► I'm not I'm not a real germaphobe but like I do have some previously used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► Apple extended keyboard Tues but when I whenever I get a new one I really do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► get all sorta like like CSI like crime scene like cleaning up a break out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► alcohol and cotton swipes and and I mean I i go you know I Q tips and I get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► there and I'll clean you know even if it looks like really like very lightly used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► which are the best ones very likely I am going to get in there and scrub it who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► the hell knows what people are doing these things I mean I don't I no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► eat food while working or any of that and like my my keyboardist should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► pristine and i'm looking down at it as we're talking that's like some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► number pad is absolutely disgusting I do not even my desk I gave that many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► ago and I still can't believe how disgustingly keyboard can get if I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► real close to yeah it's a little bit frightening to me well I know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► doing after this podcasts and now it's just it does the heebie jeebies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► just like my own key even my own keyboard grosses me out so it's hard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► me to really get excited about the new Magic Mouse cuz I know I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► use it because I know it's the same form factor is the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► I know that the old form factor to me is extremely uncomfortable tease yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► don't like it at all my boyfriend has one that he will use on occasion but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► am I the only mouse that I have on my desk right now is a very poor man's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► attempt to gaming mouse from a Cali from like 2004 that somehow is still working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► with just a 2004 button mouse scroll wheel I used to use for World of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► Warcraft of all things cause you know you have to do something in college but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► I think I've been a trackpad user pretty much since since the original Magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► Trackpad came out I mean I was on a laptop for most of college and up until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► I got hired at Macworld in 2010 and when they hired me they're like oh you get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► iMac do you wanna mouse or trackpad trackpad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► that's alright that's all I've been using aside from the occasional gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► and that's that's what I like I like white gestures and even the mouse with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► tiny little sweat just did not feel comfortable for me I feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► original Magic Mouse didn't even have a or or mission control support what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► could to finger swipe between Safari windows but it could do any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► really cool things better track but it always has felt kinda hamstrung to me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► comparison to the trackpad like Apple was really only having it to throw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► bone to the users who still wanted a mouse to come with their machines their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► desktop Mac but I'd especially with the new features of the generations Magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► Trackpad it just feels like the trackpad blows them out of the water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► this this is what you should be using that iMac I agree with that i mean I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► sure there are other people who are just so used him out that they sure that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► why Apple hasn't gone all trackpad and why the Magic Mouse still exists in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► tank but I do I it that is the other thing I do have it my desk I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► allowing I have the old way I don't have the new one I have the old one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► takes the double A batteries and I don't use it all the time but I have it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► because for certain tasks in certain apps its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► I find it nicer to have that adding an image or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► that it's nice to have it and be able to zoom in and for me I used mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► control so much because I got used to it on the on my tiny laptops that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► able to four finger swipe and get to the desktop and move around and all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► is second nature to me and especially with El Capitan adding in things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► swype to Mark as Read and mail it just makes it more of a compelling feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► for me and now that forced touch is added I some soul rock and the jelly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► roll the jelly roll Magic Trackpad with the AAA batteries but the idea of forced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► touch being able to do different things in the apps right now it's very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► third-party app developers really haven't taken advantage of it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► the track pads only been in the in the MacBook which only a small subset of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2515">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► population owns but now hit that traffic is now potentially on potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► compatible with every single back in the lineup that runs every single back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► the lineup that has blue 24 and runs on 10 now has the power force touch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► seeing what it can do just in a couple of different out you know even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► QuickTime Player the debt the demo below of both in their retail stores and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► they were demoing the MacBook trackpad is the press press a little bit too fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► forward and then press really deeply and you can fast-forward up to three hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► times and then you can lift your finger a little bit like a gas pedal you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► that's that's a cool proof of concept but I feel like especially pro level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► applications design applications drawing applications photography is gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► yeah I agree I i'm tempted by that I have you seen that there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► complaining I know and Neil dash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► we did you see yeah yeah oh my god ok so yeah go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► charging port charges bylaw all these new devices if you don't you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► the one of the big changes in all three of these is no longer now to topple make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► anything you put batteries in it maybe the remote now claiming the new remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► for Apple TV is like I think we have gotten away from AAA batteries which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► am thrilled by because I have so many useless slowly dying rechargeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► batteries I why did that a couple years ago I bought a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► rechargeable batteries and it was good when Jonas was a real little kid and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► using all sorts of toys that took them it really really don't regret it but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► but they they they lose their efficacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► so it's so bad I have a serious I probably have 12 or 14 and it's gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► to the point where I don't know which ones are almost are really properly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► charged in which ones are still kind of knew right because once you've charged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► exactly yeah there's a twist that they like like like turned around and color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► like returned like eggshell yellow weird like that you might my trackpad I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► lucky if my trackpad on my keyboard last day if I had been smart what I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► have done is maybe gotten in the habit of marking them as we mark like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► Sharpie every time I charge the battery do Italian market which once you've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► now you don't need to do it but now I've gotten off I've gotten back to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► using like ourselves you know and then I feel guilty about it though I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► because I know that you know that it's sort of iraq yeah well and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► it's Philly one of the places in Boston you can't throw them away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► you have to dispose of them in especial place so if you use a non rechargeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► battery in my house it's very much like either it goes in a bucket were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► yeah we'll take this to the special recycling department someday and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► just sits there in your house forever ever just gathering dust in Philly we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► take them to sporting events and throw them at the buzzer that sounds like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► accept another little bit more more potential of explosion of you set them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► on fire so the thing with that said that here's the thing that there's a minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► design controversy is that the new Magic Mouse has I think the exact same when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► it's sitting on a desk it looks identical to the old one has the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► same profile as different feet according to the design but I don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► look different I know that there there's interest even leaving at back channel on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► medium had a great behind the scenes talk with the team that made these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► things and they talked about how they somehow with the weight being different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► from the new battery that they had to redesign the feet to make the click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► sound right but anyway the complaint is that the lightning port is on the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► so if you want to charge this thing you have to turn it on its side or turn it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► upside down in stimulating and therefore while it's charging you cannot use it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► a mouse and what everybody seems to or the complainer seem to think it's common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► sense is that the lightning port should be at the front of the mouse so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► can plug it in and use it like you would a wired mouse yeah except for the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► nails mock-up like you just have this little hole in the front of the mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► it'll be fine except I can just I can just see five different people at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► Applebees like that is the most tedious thing I've ever seen in my life and such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► it just on top of that we should also mention the fact that this mouse does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► not take extremely long time to charge two minutes supposedly gives you nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► hours a day to the idea for you get charges if you came to work and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2815">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► you could charge it and you would have to wait to start using it but you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► just use that as like your minute to get your standing there watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► and by the time you've got your standpoint your Apple mouse your math [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► magic mouse to be charged for the day and it does give you the other thing too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► is it gives you just you know a few if any of you who haven't used these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► peripherals they do the system is in touch with them and when they get low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► you do get a warning on screen and it's not like an emergency warning it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► you know you're going to want to charge this thing yeah you know I'm actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► I'm kind of mad that the ports are on the back for the Magic Trackpad on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► measure is a magic keyboard is just a keyboard it's it's just called a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► keyboard magic magic keyboard magic all the way down I think that might be a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► name though because it's the Magic Trackpad to in the Magic Mouse too but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► that's just the magic word matching because it has the new not butterfly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► mechanism but differences are mechanism previous keep cords yes I i I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► feel like I'm in tune of the with the standing notification idea where I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► want all of the ports on the underside intend then adjust forces you to get up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► off of your desk while you're charging accessories sorry your accessories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► literally are going to stop working unless you get out of your seat it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► it seems subversive Lee funny to me but i dont I honestly don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► I think that Apple first and foremost wants to obviously designed functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► things but also designed accessories that are going to look nice and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► worst the worst thing I think in the world would be to give you a wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► mouse and then be here we're going to make it so that you can absolutely use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► it as a wired mouse because how many I don't wanna see stupid idiot how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► stupid idiots are just going to plug in their peripherals and then just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► them plugged in the entire time I don't want to charge them they are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► things always burn down I i think that if the existing profile of the Magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► Mouse had a flat front then they might have just put the port there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► but it's the fact that they're clearly happy with the profile of the Magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► Trackpad where the front and back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► you know it's it's exactly symmetric and it has there is no there's there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► nowhere for to go so anybody who's asking for them to put the port so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► you can use it while it's charging is asking for them to redesign the hamas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► yeah I'm not saying that's a bad thing but it's it doesn't it just does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► seem like a problem and i also think on the other hand I think exactly what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► said I think it might even be deliberate mean it may actually be that they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► to discourage people from using it while charging yeah but I'm not quite sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► then why they didn't do the same with keyboard which is which is my no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► honestly think that you know if you're if you're talking about technology that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► went into these peripherals again the mouse feels like the odd man out here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► where the trackpad gets first touch and all of this new and the keyboard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► completely redesigned and should I better and the mouse's has lightning now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► you know why I know that there was design work that went into the mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► because this article and also I know that even if something looks identical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► couple spent a lot of time on it regardless but I do think what you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► saying it's absolutely correct we're in order for them to put a lightning port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► on the front and make it not look like a piece of crap they're gonna have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► redesign it and if they're going to redesign the mouse than they might as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► well redesign it in such a way that they can also put forced touching it which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► think right now is probably too challenging given the curvature of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► mouse and the you know current initial limits of forced touch so I mean may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► eventually happen but i just i think they ran up against time in and hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► limitations to actually put that together and it's like well do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► a mouse that has a port on the front of it for slightly easier charging or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► you want forced touch on your trackpad pick one you can only have one and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► getting the majority of people are going to say yeah we prefer force touch on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► and why do we care about a charging port location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► the other thing lasting about these three peripherals is the price is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► classic Apple the keyboard is 99 bucks but the track 79 before I think so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► trackpad is $129 and the mouse is much as the mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3112">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► 7979 mouse keyboard are the same price now the keyboards $99.99 the keyword [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► used to be 79 so the mouse moves up the keepers praised the keyboards hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► bucks and the trackpad is a very very quintessential Apple number twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► yeah I mean I i understand the technology in the mouth in the trackpad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► at least forced forced touch to me seems like the kind of thing where you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► need to charge a premium for it based on all of the mechanics that are under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► hood it's not just a mouse but it still $129 first level middle the AmazonBasics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► three button USB wired masses 69 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► AmazonBasics wireless mouse now it's expensive that $11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► if you want a mouse I seem to remember that in previous versions you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► choose between the mouse and the keyboard or the trackpad they wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► you and now they are charging 50 bucks if you want to go from the mouse or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► keyboard to try them out to the track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► keepers know how ya that used to be like that used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► choose your choose your poison and now they're actually discouraging people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► from going to the trackpad which seems like such a seems like such the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► thing to do if you want to get more people using force touch and and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► people comfortable with a trackpad or egg hunt for you could get both the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► Magic Mouse to end the Magic Trackpad to $429 she wanted multiple peripherals are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► you can get a wired mouse yeah I think you're right I think you're right to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► fundamentally comes down to the fact that forced touch is the 3d touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► whatever we're calling it is the new you know hotness and it's you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► probably is more expensive I'd I really doubt that it cost $129 yeah that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► more you know but multiply by Apple's standard margin and maybe you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► it is the right price but it really does is one of those remaining things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► stands out from the Mac and the commodity market as I sit here and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► at this you know I just opened up an amazon.com Tappan just type mouse like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► you get five years a Logitech 421 $22 yeah if you want an end and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► what the high-quality mice the funny thing is like Greek as a high-quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► on his on his desk that I'm pretty sure he paid me be $70 for yeah I'm sure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► can but it's you know but even that that's less than the price of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► Apple Magic Mouse to write a mean here's one it looks like something from Ironman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► ICC team 4000 dpi 10 button led optical USB wired professional gaming mouse what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3293">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► is a good email Steve dots per inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► well it's it's it's the dutch Prince is the center the laser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► it actually is pretty important oh yeah I never I've never heard that term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► because I am a very casual but still make sense I'm not a game I'm playing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► game on my Mac and over ten years maybe longer but I'm very sensitive to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► because that's why use my old mouse with the ball because it has a really high D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► Jack the speed up with him outside III that one of the weird things I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► about the gaming world but anyway all these mice $7 but Apple can do it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► the thing is that the MEB is the peripherals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► renee has been going to the store pretty much every day to try and get the mayor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► their limited supply every day and every day sold out so that the people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► buying these horrendously expensive peripherals yeah well I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► if it's it is expensive yes no way around it I don't know that it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► expensive that I'm not complaining about it it's the price you pay it forward you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► know Apple's cutting edge stuff 4944 no batteries for lithium-ion batteries in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► the keyboard and trackpad I would pay you know $229 for that set yeah I'm if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► was buying it to upgrade to make her Mac yet I would do that in a heartbeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► because anything that requires me never to use batteries again is Bertha church [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► and church I do hate that they're referring it to for such as for such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► American 3 touch on the phone that is driving me crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► well I think I've asked about it and it's one of those questions that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► have a prepared answer for that doesn't really answer it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► yeah but they're ready for it but I think translating it from their non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► is I think it's twofold I think one they were calling it forced touch everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► and then they decided that I think they kind of body or at least recognized the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► arguments of people have that it it sounds like it could be a little creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► something that there's other you know there's other ways to interpret those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► words that absolutely positive connotation and I think secondarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► they've talked themselves into the not just renaming it 3d touch everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► because I think forced touch is sort of binary where it's either a regular touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► or a force touch and that's it in 3d touch has I just read and yeah well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► has it measures degree of touch yes so like just the one way that Apple exposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► it currently and I was nine is with the peak and pop where there's two levels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► touch and I just read an article I guess I should try to find it a show notes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► read an article where somebody was playing with the API's and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► effectively a developer could could probably get six levels of touch if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3476">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► wanted to like and where you where you might want to use it maybe in a game you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► know some kind of game of six levels you know maybe for acceleration driving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► racing game maybe in some kind of musical app where you're playing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► force touches is trying to get out of it drums or something you can pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► go like 126 and thats 3d touched like it had you know and forced touch though is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► neither just it is a force touch or two regular touch and that's it yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► that's what it is on the watch and that's what interests me about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► desktop is that the force touch trackpad on a MacBook is not impressive you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► not like it does have it does have degrees of sensitivity in layers in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► but they're still kind of playing with that idea yeah I don't know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► API's are there maybe I'm wrong I don't know I think they should just got caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► 3d touchable yeah I like 3d touch I think 32 touches appropriate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► interesting thing it's funny that developers can only access six levels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► Peter Skinner from 10 1 did it of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► initial tests for the pressure sensitivity and drawing ups and he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► able to detect over 400 400 potential levels of pressure sensitivity when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► came to drawing alone so there's a lot there's actually a lot of functionality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► built into that little screen that maybe it isn't quite exposed to developers for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► regular apps because maybe it just doesn't make sense to have that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► finite pressure I mean it that so many levels of pressure that the average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► human is not understand that they've shut through 50 to get from step one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► step 2 but from a drawing perspective that's actually really exciting one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► the things I kinda wanna play with once we get the the new house called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► first touch trackpad once we get the new Magic Trackpad I'm really curious to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► how you know if if precious instead of drawing is going to be able to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► something that that the Magic Trackpad can do they're going to just limited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► the iPhone for this this time around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3596">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► yea well what do you think you would do the drawing what i mean you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► with a fantasy the thing the interesting thing for me at least on a on a Mac you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► could use a stylus argued that that glass is now so big that it got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► almost reminds me of like a Wacom Bamboo Bamboo tablet really early 512 levels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► pressure sensitivity tablet but would be cool for me is using it in something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► like Pixelmator or Lightroom where you use it to shade or two like to do color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► correction in various levels were you don't need the specific pinpoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► pinpoint accuracy you if you were just drawing very tiny lines but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► you know color correcting or if you're removing splotches or anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► being able to have levels of pressure at Lake this is how this is how much I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► you know this is how much color I want to take away the desaturation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► the pressure is more important than that but then the pics of precision exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► exactly at least in these early days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► Eastern certain tasks like that exactly and even the pixel precision is not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► bad when you have resumed at your disposal and I can very easily see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► pinch and then you use one finger to sketch but I've been doing on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► phone and it's working really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► why let's take a break and I will thank our second sponsor and it's our good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► friends at automatic they just spell it the regular way auto matic and what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► it is really cool it is a connected car adapter I call it a dingus it plugs into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► your car's diagnostic port every car made I think since 1997 but somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► around there has one of these two standard port goes across manufacturers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► your car has one you just find out where it where it is on your card somewhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► the dashboard you put this little thing gets into it and it's exactly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► port that like the mechanic uses when you take your car in the shop and I Q [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► your car's dashboard says you need like service a one you could just use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► automatic and it tells you exactly what that means is I have an appt here's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► you you you you plug thing in the card and you have to worry about it anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► and after that you just use the app and communicates with Bluetooth between you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► and your car and it tells you everything that goes through there so any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► like engine light warning or something like that automatically explain in plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► English what the heck is going on you know whether you just need an oil change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► whether you're due for some kind of bigger service whether something is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► failing gives you a log of your trips it keeps track of your parking location so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► if you if you have it you know if you don't have a good garage or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► and I you know forget your car is automatic knows where your cars every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► single time you park it even can call emergency services in the case of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► accident its course you on your driving if you wanted to show you can set goals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► for fuel efficiency and stuff like that and we'll give you hints and tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► when you're you know when you're going over your limits and stuff like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► new thing they have this year and it was already called just doing all that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► new they may have this year's they have an app store for automatic and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► over 20 apps available and that lets you use your car's data in all kinds of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► so for example they've got integration with nest so you can let your thermostat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► know when you're getting close to home you can say when I'm five miles away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► do this with the temperature in your house or 10 miles whatever you want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► to be you have to do it you set it up and then it just works like that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► amazing that really seems like the future and they've got immigration with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3814">TS</a>]
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01:03:46 ◼ ► you should check out on your own anyway for hooking up all sorts of nerdy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► but then you can make your own recipes and do all sorts of custom stuff based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► on this really really long story short if you have a card you really want this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► this sort of thing should be built into every car but it's not but it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► awesome that works with everybody's car it's a hundred bucks normally which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► great deal and there's no service for you don't pay like 10 bucks a month or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► whatever you just give them two hundred bucks you get the dangerous and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► own it but even better than that you can save 20% off thats 20 bucks get it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► $80 and it ships in 2 business days and they have a 45 day return policy that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► how confident are they gonna like it so buy it for 80 bucks with this code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► automatic dot com slash the talk show and get yourself this automatic thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► if you haven't gotten one already really cool anything else on the the perforce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► no I think I was thinking it seems a little silly cuz it's only October and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► I'm not like a big year in review sort of person I usually don't do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► like that but I think we're at the point now where we kinda know everything done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► for 2015 I mean we're still waiting coming you know the iPad Pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► obviously a huge thing that's coming it probably the right it's the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► literally biggest iOS devices stopping 27 inch iMac but it it's probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► biggest hardware announcement of the year and we know we don't have it in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► hands it but we know it's coming I think you know I think the Apple has shown on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► their cards and it actually is to me you know it's as much as like for the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► or two prior there were a lot of complaints that alcohol was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► silence for debating wasn't innovating you know Phil Schiller is can innovate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► anymore my ass thing at WWC it's obviously frustrating to them I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► see it's one of those things where I feel like they you can complain about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► when they're quiet for a long time but then when they have a busy year nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► really says while they've really done a lot this year but they've done a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► this year and ocular amount when you really think about all of i mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3956">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► launched an entirely new product the Apple watch right you know we got new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► iPhones we got new dev kits get a new to new versions of of iOS and OS 10 which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► people I think overlooked just how just how much work goes into creating solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► software and they really did I feel like make solid software this time around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► on both iOS and OS 10 it doesn't feel nearly as as bulky to me right off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► line we got new iPhones Apple TV I forgot about me that's looming end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► October Early November I also I want to emphasize that as we record this I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► not have an Apple TV I worry that somebody's gonna go out you know rupert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► says you know he's only waiting on an iPad programs have an Apple TV now I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► love it that's coming and the other two really big things to me are the photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► the new photo integrated photos that launched a nightclub photos and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► music right answers these two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► that you know music and your photos and videos that in 2015 Apple has introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► entirely new and and you know not necessarily in both cases in either case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► but it they've certainly laid the foundation for the future of how people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► in the Apple customers in the Apple ecosystem are going to manage your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► absolutely and you know i i did a lot of work on both of those topics right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► as they were coming out and as as the year has progressed they you know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► has been very very good about listening to customer feedback and implementing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► implementing changes or fixes or bug you know bug fixes to make the experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► better you know I think about the initial I club for the library and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► new Photos app I couldn't turn around on the internet virtually turn around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► without seeing someone being like how dare you this sucks I'm moving to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► Lightroom everything is terrible and now they're I feel it quite a few people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► using photos are using Google's photo service for the using you know they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► found their photo service or they're willing to give those a try and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► there's no big calamity Apple hasn't lost someone's entire photo library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► there's no there's been no insanity there was a little insanity over apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► music photos first feel like it was the smooth launch and I'm really impressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► by it I really AM I it works really really well for me there was one one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► time early on with a photo on my iPhone I had so many photos I've got in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► of God 16,900 56 photos and 237 videos you might have Ebdon videos but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4138">TS</a>]
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01:09:12 ◼ ► used to store them separately I do have videos in here nevermind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► I'm guessing most of that was recently shot but twenty 6896 photos 855 videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► and three items I don't actually know what items are I i had had had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► know maybe at like at the point where I upgraded to iOS 9 beta on my iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► it was a beta so don't complain about it publicly but I had a situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► their account wasn't the same across all my devices it was slightly off and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► figured it out that it came down to a photo taken on my iPhone about two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► prior and which I had edited and I forget if I only edited I did it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4196">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► phone and I forget if I used the Photos app on the phone to adjust the color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► something or if I used like after later one of those third party apps that lets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► you modify images on your photo role in place without making a copy but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► added and for whatever reason it was not able to sync that photo to my class so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► emailed it to myself so I have a copy of the edited version then I deleted it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► then everything got caught up in an aide to the email photo and put it back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► the photos so one time and it was with a beta so I'm not complaining and ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► yeah well I and i think you know comparing us a little bit about the beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► process was really important for this being able to have the months where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► their lake yes this is beta we definitely want people to come play in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► the beta so please if you're interested but this is a beta service and please be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4256">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► advised this is a beta service and please back up your photos and once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► forcible knew that going in and also were able to figure out oh this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► difference between storing all of your photos on your device and optimizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► storage and this is what this app gets me that aperture Lightroom does not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► more time to kind of figure all that out I I too had had one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► really bad photos experience and that was mostly I had at this at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► that photo was released initially sort of announced I was really excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► this cuz my photo library had been spreading across four different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► computers and I thought at one point I had it all localized on the 15 inch iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► but as time went on it kind of more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► got over too much or 15 inch MacBook Pro as time went on it became more on on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► old 21.5 inch iMac and a little bit on my on my my macbook air and I i was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► saving like giant folders of iPhone images every time I get full I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► dumped everything the image capture into a folder and shove it into Dropbox it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► was like there was something canonical version of my photos somewhere and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► I went to merge everything into photos 1 my MacBook Air library wouldn't sink and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► eventually I just had to creating knew I had to create a new library and pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► down all of the photos from the cloud and then upload everything it was try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► just got into a terrible loop where it was trying to download and upload at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► same time and they just you know essentially them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► virtual pipe was clogged so nothing could get anywhere and just uploading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► forever but again once I like that was a very simple troubleshoot I talked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► Apple almost immediately got that fixed and once I got that fixed no problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► everything is great yeah the other thing that really works well and it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► simple and I know there's other services that do this I'm not saying Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► invented anything I'm just saying that at scale for all of the people who use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► iCloud photos it seems to be working well is the way that like you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► whether or not you want all of your photos on this device or not or you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► want the thumbnails and pulled them down over the cloud as needed to save space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► yeah and having gone through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► again I'm not complaining it's great it's great that I get access to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► iPhones and stuff before him but I set up an awful lot of iOS devices every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► year because I knew I found in a nearby my own iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► having set up my own iPhones for personal use a lot and over the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► month or two it worked really really great where it's obviously they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► you know sixteen or seventeen thousand photos even the thumbnails are not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► you know a minute or two after you unlock you know unwrap the phone but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► know within a very reasonable amount of time they are and it's it's to me really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► impressive and it's always a problem that we've had for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► yeah well that's just the not having to worry about what device they take photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► on is huge and not like it's just an everyday to obviously most people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► necessarily have a job where they're taking tons of product photos on maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► you and then uploading them to one machine and maybe me access to them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► another machine at a later point in time but that kind of workflow I feel like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► universal for different documents and Apple seems to have really done a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► thing with photos where I can again now for screenshot or snap snap a photo of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► like an apple watchdog in three seconds later it shows up on my Mac where I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► to upload it to our CMS for your website and that it just it makes it easier I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► don't have to worry about where my photos are as I know like okay they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► all the cloud and I have a backup if physical backup on one of my computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► and then I have a double back up on in Dropbox like tax it's just it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► really nice the one the one nickel that I have with optimized storage is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► do wish that your favorite album was automatically stored on device like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► wish there was an album that you could just be like this album needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► sourced locally because the annoying thing of like typing something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► want to share with somebody and then seeing the doubt the slow download icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► and realizing currently i cud photos is limited to wifi to download a photo so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► if you want to get an old photo from 1986 or something that you have stored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► chances are if you haven't looked at it frequently it's not it's stored up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► the library it's not stored on device if you have optimized on and if you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► can't download that and so all you can see is this really blurry picture even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► if you're just looking at you want to just browse photos while you're stuck on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► an airplane or something that that's a little frustrating but it's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► it's not a deal breaker it's not necessarily something room Apple how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► could you but it would be nice to have to have a space of these photos were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► always down my device these pictures of my pets it's either the default it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► only way you get photos under Apple watch to at least the fault is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4571">TS</a>]
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01:16:20 ◼ ► can also is there a way that you can manually specify different album you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► specify a different album on the watch but it is albums only and favorites is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► the first option so out of the boxes with us what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► yeah I'm looking at it right now yes in town favorites but anyway long story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► short I think it's really been a good year for photos and I am really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► going forward because it's one of those things where I feel like it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► thing as I trying to get everything across the board to go read where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► need all of these things in place first and some of the stuff you just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► wait for it and I feel like being able to say doesn't matter you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► have a stand-alone you know camera and you can hook it up to your Mac and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► import them into photos a week or two later you forget what you took the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► photos of you just know you took a photo of you know your relatives birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► party and the fact that it's just there on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► even if you didn't take the photos with your phone is great I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► interested see though if if what they do like for next year with photos is start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► beefing up especially the Mac version to be more of a prosumer photo editing tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► I'm hoping so I hope so too and my concern though is that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► everything is everywhere and that their non-destructive that the Mac what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► Mac version of photos can do isn't limited by what the Macan do but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► do well I mean there's always there's already some disparity there because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► iPhone has of course non-destructive third-party audits and Mac did not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► that option for up extensions until this fall and even then there are those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► limited to device so if you if you added something on your iPhone say with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► the Pixelmator expense extension for iPhone and then you imported are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► open it up in the Mac you can't open it with the Pixelmator extension for Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► you either have to you can revert it so you can take off all of the edits or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► can add a top of it but you can once you change those sliders if you opened up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► the Mac and start to apply new new more edits you you lose the previous ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► but if you do but if you just look at it you do see the edits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► yes you do so I guess that's one way to do it where the Mac could gain a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► built-in serious stuff and then when you open it up on the iPhone you see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► but then if you try to edit it would warn you that you either need to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4734">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► yeah exactly I can live with that that sort of I think the best we can hope for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► yeah I mean I wouldn't necessarily rule out pro version of photos but I do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► there's enough there are enough things to make improvements to in the initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► appt I think the initial opposite very solid 10 release but they're still there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► definitely they're definitely tools that a that would be great for a prosumer out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► or a you know a consumer leading to like during the slow stepping stones they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► already done a great job even with the editing menu of making potentially you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► an expansive color correction available to somebody who doesn't really know much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► were you just start with this lighter from light to dark and then you can drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► it down and it becomes more expensive and more in depth and then you can add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► extensions if you really want to play around and OH I messed this up a reset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► button away huge your photos and my Apple music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4795">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► the next day this is the part hot apple music to me still it confuses me you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► know this is really the main reason I want to do under shows I want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► explain Apple ok what it was like to know about music how am I supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► ok so do you do you want to use Apple's catalogue of like to access Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► catalogue of artists I guess what I needed to hear that I think I need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► I think for safety's sake I have backups but I think I need to make a copy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► music yes i think thats what is which is largely ripped but I have had the match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► service for all you know ever since it came out and make a copy and then I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► all my rep stuff that I've had for fifteen years now and then just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► without music yet so what I would suggest if you're starting from scratch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► and you want to go into Apple music you make a copy of your library for that new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► copy of your library if you want to start just absolutely clean what you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► do is create that new library and then I think there's a checkbox that allows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► to add songs but keep the linked locations absolute so which is to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► like if you have all of your songs packaged in your original iTunes music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► library when you add them to the second library it doesn't create a second copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► of those songs it's just it it has a provisional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► symbiotic from the original library two years later an alias basically similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► to to the way again to compare two photos similar to the way that it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► imported your iPhoto library to the new photos it didn't make copies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► symlinks to have what looks like two copies of it but both are pointing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4914">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► the same stream a bite on desk exactly so you can you can vote do this and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► once you have that second library you turn up the music on for that library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► and your Apple IDs tied to your Apple idea that I think one of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► important things that people can't overlook side to europe lady you turn on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► Apple music and the big difference between having just Apple music as your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► Apple music service of choice or having iTunes Match or having both of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► together is that Apple music alone gives you access to Apple's App Catalog so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► can stream any of their songs or artists it lets you play songs that you your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► cell phone as well as the Apple music catalog on any of your devices to 10 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► when do you or if you cancel that service that streaming on extra devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► thing goes away and all of those songs that you've streamed or downloaded to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► another device gets deleted whether or not you own them extra auxiliary devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► and all of your Apple music catalog goes away so you're left with just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► original songs you had on your original computer the difference between that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► Apple me and iTunes Match is that of course in iTunes Match when you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► able to stream or download your songs that you own to any other computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► has your appointee but when you download those songs onto an axillary computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► whether or not you cancel iTunes Match are not there they are forever on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► computer unless you delete them their their their DRM free so if you just use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► Apple music and cancel iTunes Match then you are your collection the songs you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► own that you stream or download other computers will show up as Apple music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► tagged if they can match that catalog and if you can't slap on music those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5034">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► songs on those auxiliary computers will disappear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► so if you want them to retain whether or not you choose to keep our music then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► that's when you keep the two subscriptions running concurrently so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► you have Apple music and iTunes Match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► since you have both do you still have both I still have both in part because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► I'm testing a million things but no i i have pulled because I have a canonical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► music library on my iMac but I still I will download some things to other two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► other computers and I don't want my you know my local music library on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► axillary to vanish if I decide to camp canceled music because then I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► to go and you know we import everything onto an auxiliary computer right have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► reenable iTunes Match and that seems like a book work and then like $25 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► never have to worry about that work again I can I can pay 25 bucks here yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5092">TS</a>]
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01:25:03 ◼ ► month for a family plan about the music is I want to make sure we're actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► listening to see exactly it's like this is actually this is a bill this adds up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► to a significant amount of money per month I like despite all of the insanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► with Apple music and I really do think that the difference between the hike the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► photos around the photos rollout and the music rollout is that music didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► a beta period of people and if they had had a beta period with enough with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► couple you know a couple hundred like even five ten thousand subscribers would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► be enough to hash out most of the terrible bugs they saw like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► that Apple music or Apple music and iTunes Match users were seeing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► songs matched a sample music that was a bug that was fixed within the first 48 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► hours but despite it being fixed in the first 48 hours people went crazy over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► yeah that's it really keen observer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► really think it that that you know that I photo or photos had a beta and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► worked out these kinks and music was like all of you go sign up for this free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► service now for three months and they worked out the kinks like on the fly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► it really did leave a sour taste in people's mouths and honestly because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► was free they really could have just said three free free or free at three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► month trial and this is our beta period this summer is our beta launch off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► period for Apple music that's what I mean looking at beach when I listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► beats 10 law in the early days in part because I was writing about it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► just cuz it was it was such a curiosity to me as someone who hasn't listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► terrestrial radio in about 12 years it was such a curiosity and such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► interesting highbrow can you make this work but but it's one was very much in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► their initial two months and even though I mean that interview with them low that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► he gave recently at the BBC is basically like we're figuring this stuff out by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► the seat of our pants this is very much a better for us and we won't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► exactly what beats one is or how it fits into the over organ theme of Apple music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5222">TS</a>]
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01:31:04 ◼ ► at a given having a tethered connection doesn't make it work that's even worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5464">TS</a>]
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01:31:12 ◼ ► at the state like Apple this is that that's the kind of stuff that could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5472">TS</a>]
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01:31:19 ◼ ► there some playlists problems let's actually find out I find it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5479">TS</a>]
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01:33:33 ◼ ► more about the inner workings of Apple I'm really glad that Apple is reaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► out for help and support beyond just the you know the distended disclaimer go go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► see Apple Care I'm glad the developers are getting more of a voice on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/5623">TS</a>]
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02:03:20 ◼ ► project Titan team is like a ho ya Elon Musk ok we'll show you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7400">TS</a>]
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02:03:30 ◼ ► going to copy your features and then you're gonna copy ours and then vice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7410">TS</a>]
02:03:34 ◼ ► that's right it's so different coming from the the the founder of companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7414">TS</a>]
02:03:41 ◼ ► now well but the most just talk the talk rocket ships but just talking cars it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7421">TS</a>]
02:03:49 ◼ ► awesome that to hear sort of straight up you know comp competitive talk from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7429">TS</a>]
02:03:57 ◼ ► leader of the most innovative I I don't see how anybody could deny you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7437">TS</a>]
02:04:03 ◼ ► they're still very expensive but in terms of how innovative the cars are I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7443">TS</a>]
02:04:10 ◼ ► don't see how anybody could deny that test was the most innovative company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7450">TS</a>]
02:04:13 ◼ ► even just the way that they sell the cars without having dealers selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7453">TS</a>]
02:04:17 ◼ ► direct innovative you know to have him take a poll on is just great the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7457">TS</a>]
02:04:22 ◼ ► thing I don't like is it the next day he kind of walked back a little bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7462">TS</a>]
02:04:26 ◼ ► despite winners so his comments you know instantly they're all over the place out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7466">TS</a>]
02:04:31 ◼ ► I'd probably everybody listening to this shows us something about but then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7471">TS</a>]
02:04:37 ◼ ► I just got back here that the other quote he told this German newspaper was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7477">TS</a>]
02:04:41 ◼ ► no seriously it's good that Apple is moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7481">TS</a>]
02:04:43 ◼ ► investing in this direction but cars her very complex compared the phones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7483">TS</a>]
02:04:47 ◼ ► smart watches and again that so steve jobs in in my area because he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7487">TS</a>]
02:04:53 ◼ ► gonna make phones are smart watches and so it's such a neat rhetorical trick to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7493">TS</a>]
02:04:58 ◼ ► just sort of say 2222 an Apple as a company that makes these things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7498">TS</a>]
02:05:04 ◼ ► easy answers tomorrow at all it's not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7504">TS</a>]
02:05:10 ◼ ► it had not seen the cars are complex or just come more comp just complex in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7510">TS</a>]
02:05:15 ◼ ► different ways it's a different industry the completely different industry we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7515">TS</a>]
02:05:20 ◼ ► got multi gigahertz Unix machines with touch screens with 60 frames per second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7520">TS</a>]
02:05:26 ◼ ► animation that are all fit into that we carry out our pockets are right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7526">TS</a>]
02:05:31 ◼ ► they are amazing devices so don't don't tell me that you know cars and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7531">TS</a>]
02:05:36 ◼ ► another order of magnitude or something but it's funny anyway on Twitter he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7536">TS</a>]
02:05:40 ◼ ► tweeted yo I don't head out to great company with a lot of talented people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7540">TS</a>]
02:05:45 ◼ ► love their products and I'm glad they're doing and EV electric vehicle regarding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7545">TS</a>]
02:05:51 ◼ ► the watch Johnny and his team created beautiful design but the functionality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7551">TS</a>]
02:05:55 ◼ ► isn't compelling yet by version 3 it will be somebody who started following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7555">TS</a>]
02:06:01 ◼ ► you on my I think I started following him during the initial dragon tests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7561">TS</a>]
02:06:06 ◼ ► whether they're trying to land a rocket operate and just because I some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7566">TS</a>]
02:06:11 ◼ ► were treated retweeting stuff you treat it like a CEO that's because frankly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7571">TS</a>]
02:06:15 ◼ ► Twitter and that's not John McGarry this'll be interesting to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7575">TS</a>]
02:06:19 ◼ ► he tends to do this pretty like do the day after responsive tweets to pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7579">TS</a>]
02:06:24 ◼ ► much every interview he's done he did it after the yeah let's drop nooks on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7584">TS</a>]
02:06:28 ◼ ► polls that happened during the Stephen Colbert where I think he just he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7588">TS</a>]
02:06:34 ◼ ► things and then he watches the media you like oh no no you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7594">TS</a>]
02:06:38 ◼ ► misinterpreting what I said completely ok just just for my own personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7598">TS</a>]
02:06:44 ◼ ► happiness meter I'm gonna say this and I don't necessarily think it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7604">TS</a>]
02:06:49 ◼ ► apologizing I think it's let me actually make sure you understand what I said UPI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7609">TS</a>]
02:06:56 ◼ ► dialing it back a little you know like he's he's gonna make he he'll come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7616">TS</a>]
02:07:03 ◼ ► and that's why he's such an enjoyable personality and I can't help but think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7623">TS</a>]
02:07:07 ◼ ► that having a personality like that is it really helps motivate teams you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7627">TS</a>]
02:07:13 ◼ ► and the company's it works for it in the same way that it did with jobs it bye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7633">TS</a>]
02:07:17 ◼ ► bye erring on the side of having the dial turn too high it and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7637">TS</a>]
02:07:24 ◼ ► dialing back as necessary as opposed to being cautious and keeping the dial a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7644">TS</a>]
02:07:28 ◼ ► little too low and then maybe trying to tweak it up a little bit you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7648">TS</a>]
02:07:31 ◼ ► have to pick which side you're going to err on there yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7651">TS</a>]
02:07:34 ◼ ► by erring on the side of too much I think it's it's how you'd do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7654">TS</a>]
02:07:40 ◼ ► yeah I absolutely i mean you can't you can't win big unless you attempt to fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7660">TS</a>]
02:07:45 ◼ ► pick and you can't i'm i'm happy with him being boisterous ridiculous it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7665">TS</a>]
02:07:53 ◼ ► did it I thought it was fun it did though it it made me and again just by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7673">TS</a>]
02:07:58 ◼ ► coincidence the timing is truly coincidentally is just that the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7678">TS</a>]
02:08:03 ◼ ► that the anniversary of Steve Jobs death was last week for years you know every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7683">TS</a>]
02:08:09 ◼ ► October it comes up and it gets a little bit and it just made me think and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7689">TS</a>]
02:08:13 ◼ ► some ways it's just sad and it just you know nobody wanted to go to die so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7693">TS</a>]
02:08:17 ◼ ► always sad to remember somebody you know beloved who died but with the Elon Musk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7697">TS</a>]
02:08:22 ◼ ► comment it really made me miss him because it's Apple doesn't need somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7702">TS</a>]
02:08:29 ◼ ► who can play that role but you know i mean it would have been back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7709">TS</a>]
02:08:35 ◼ ► back and forth between Steve Jobs in Elon Musk on a semi public forum would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7715">TS</a>]
02:08:40 ◼ ► have been glorious and going forward making cars like as fun as it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7720">TS</a>]
02:08:47 ◼ ► be to have apple and Tesla competing in the space it would have been more fun if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7727">TS</a>]
02:08:51 ◼ ► so I made it did make me miss ya Jaane last thing I did see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7731">TS</a>]
02:09:03 ◼ ► yeah everybody call Aaron Sorkin but it's Aaron Sorkin written and Danny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7743">TS</a>]
02:09:11 ◼ ► I can see why the Aaron Sorkin I you know what all is Aaron Sorkin done is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7751">TS</a>]
02:09:18 ◼ ► done few good men he's in the West Wing sports night which is still at one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7758">TS</a>]
02:09:24 ◼ ► studio 60 which was not one of my all-time favorite TV shows like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7764">TS</a>]
02:09:28 ◼ ► like I like it yeah exactly was flawed but had some really great moments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7768">TS</a>]
02:09:32 ◼ ► same thing with the newsroom and very flood but occasional high points in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7772">TS</a>]
02:09:37 ◼ ► occasional hyper low points but he has a style yeah dialogue and it is you either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7777">TS</a>]
02:09:46 ◼ ► hated or or maybe sometimes you like it sometimes you don't but it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7786">TS</a>]
02:09:50 ◼ ► distinctive and this movie is very very Aaron Sorkin he also wrote the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7790">TS</a>]
02:09:57 ◼ ► social network movie and the social network to me was a far more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7797">TS</a>]
02:10:04 ◼ ► conventional movie it was you could tell this organisms in the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7804">TS</a>]
02:10:10 ◼ ► characters talked but was very neutered 44 sirkin like that was the first thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7810">TS</a>]
02:10:15 ◼ ► I ever noticed with with social network is it feels very again there's little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7815">TS</a>]
02:10:20 ◼ ► bits of shortening it but doesn't feel like an Aaron Sorkin production this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7820">TS</a>]
02:10:23 ◼ ► this Steve Jobs is very it just screams and in ways that are good and bad in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7823">TS</a>]
02:10:30 ◼ ► way that's good the best thing I can say about it is that there's only a handful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7830">TS</a>]
02:10:34 ◼ ► of major characters and they are all interesting and well with the exception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7834">TS</a>]
02:10:43 ◼ ► of maybe of Christian whatever her last name was the mother of his who is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7843">TS</a>]
02:10:51 ◼ ► of a weird in the movie just a little little mousey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7851">TS</a>]
02:10:58 ◼ ► but she was she was she didn't have as much dialogue and made her little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7858">TS</a>]
02:11:05 ◼ ► uncertain but the characters who were there were all vivid very very vivid it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7865">TS</a>]
02:11:12 ◼ ► was not just Steve Jobs and a bunch of others it was you know a bunch of very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7872">TS</a>]
02:11:17 ◼ ► interesting characters and the dialogue is good and the characters are coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7877">TS</a>]
02:11:23 ◼ ► interesting perspectives and there's a lot of really really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7883">TS</a>]
02:11:26 ◼ ► conflict and it's entirely verbal it I enjoyed it I thought the last third drug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7886">TS</a>]
02:11:36 ◼ ► a little bit its base and I think most people know the basic gist of it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7896">TS</a>]
02:11:39 ◼ ► reacts the first there and they're all these scenes that centered around Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7899">TS</a>]
02:11:45 ◼ ► Steve Jobs product unveilings 1984 original Macintosh 1988 its next box in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7905">TS</a>]
02:11:52 ◼ ► 1998 original iMac which we just talked about an hour ago and then there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7912">TS</a>]
02:11:58 ◼ ► these scenes of you know personal conflict around these events but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7918">TS</a>]
02:12:02 ◼ ► not really about the event and it's not about the products for the most part I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7922">TS</a>]
02:12:09 ◼ ► thought the third one the third act with the iMac the scene drug a little bit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7929">TS</a>]
02:12:14 ◼ ► thought I like the first two much better this movie is wonder is really good I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7934">TS</a>]
02:12:19 ◼ ► have to say I know there's a lot of people have to listen to the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7939">TS</a>]
02:12:22 ◼ ► this movie is really really going to bother you if you're the sort of person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7942">TS</a>]
02:12:26 ◼ ► who wanted to be factually actor I don't understand why you'd go see a fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7946">TS</a>]
02:12:33 ◼ ► movie I know why people expected to hit all the buttons but it was already based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7953">TS</a>]
02:12:40 ◼ ► on a book that wasn't entirely you know yeah but this takes liberties though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7960">TS</a>]
02:12:45 ◼ ► does just taking liberties this is like the best way I can say is it fuels a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7965">TS</a>]
02:12:53 ◼ ► more like a play then a movie and in fact I think it could be adapted to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7973">TS</a>]
02:12:59 ◼ ► stage play good really easily I think the hardest part would be how to stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7979">TS</a>]
02:13:04 ◼ ► it because so much of it takes place on stages like almost feel like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7984">TS</a>]
02:13:10 ◼ ► as I came home is maybe the way to play it would be to have the actors pretend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7990">TS</a>]
02:13:16 ◼ ► that the theater they're performing a play in is empty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/7996">TS</a>]
02:13:20 ◼ ► in at the audience isn't there but that's the way it feels to me it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8000">TS</a>]
02:13:26 ◼ ► really feel like a movie and it's not certain autobiography in any sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8006">TS</a>]
02:13:30 ◼ ► the word like thinking about like I somebody on Twitter who tweeted that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8010">TS</a>]
02:13:38 ◼ ► wished their dad Martin Scorsese would do a Steve Jobs biography sorta like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8018">TS</a>]
02:13:42 ◼ ► ABA here would be so bored I mean Steve Jobs a fascinating character but i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8022">TS</a>]
02:13:47 ◼ ► i don't feel like we needed I don't think we need a diabetic noting that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8027">TS</a>]
02:13:52 ◼ ► did was as senate cinematically interesting is flying airplanes I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8032">TS</a>]
02:14:00 ◼ ► like scorsese but yeah I was abdel Ibrahim Twitter account is he be D O [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8040">TS</a>]
02:14:13 ◼ ► photo tweeted that which I thought was a keen observation if that's what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8053">TS</a>]
02:14:17 ◼ ► hoping for it is not like that at all and it is not a story like you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8057">TS</a>]
02:14:22 ◼ ► like the social network was it's you know a melodrama about his personal life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8062">TS</a>]
02:14:35 ◼ ► overall I don't know why I candid I i enjoyed it but I really had to let go of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8075">TS</a>]
02:14:42 ◼ ► what I know to be factually true to enjoy it and I can really see I also can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8082">TS</a>]
02:14:46 ◼ ► really see why his family is not happy about it at all because some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8086">TS</a>]
02:14:50 ◼ ► like liberties they're not just liberties they're just total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8090">TS</a>]
02:14:52 ◼ ► inaccuracies so just to name one and it really the movie really centers around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8092">TS</a>]
02:14:57 ◼ ► his relationship with his first daughter Lisa in the way that when she was first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8097">TS</a>]
02:15:01 ◼ ► born he denied his paternity that's all factually true we don't we know that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8101">TS</a>]
02:15:06 ◼ ► complaining about this is that knee jerk response I get when I bring this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8106">TS</a>]
02:15:11 ◼ ► up is that people think that if your people like me who is a fan of Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8111">TS</a>]
02:15:15 ◼ ► Jobs want this stuff buried and we don't want to talk about it we don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8115">TS</a>]
02:15:19 ◼ ► be out there because it's uncomfortable and it's ugly it's unfortunate that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8119">TS</a>]
02:15:24 ◼ ► not the case at all and nobody who I know who really cares about it is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8124">TS</a>]
02:15:28 ◼ ► saying those things and in a way that he could be almost tyrannical to work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8128">TS</a>]
02:15:33 ◼ ► nobody is asking people not to remember that order sweep it under the carpet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8133">TS</a>]
02:15:37 ◼ ► they're just asking for it to be put into context and the thing that I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8137">TS</a>]
02:15:42 ◼ ► see would be so painful it's it's is in the movie he in 1998 when iMac thing he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8142">TS</a>]
02:15:50 ◼ ► still hasn't reconciled with his daughter Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8150">TS</a>]
02:15:53 ◼ ► he sort of does right before he goes on to datetime field iMac which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8153">TS</a>]
02:15:59 ◼ ► ridiculous if you think a wide world would he be doing at Lake as like the PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8159">TS</a>]
02:16:05 ◼ ► people are saying let you know your thirty seconds later minute lead you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8165">TS</a>]
02:16:08 ◼ ► know you know did not have it doesn't seem like jobs at all besides if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8168">TS</a>]
02:16:13 ◼ ► were if you're talking about you know someone who is excessively focused over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8173">TS</a>]
02:16:18 ◼ ► rehearsing and all of that you know right no one gets to come near me for 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8178">TS</a>]
02:16:23 ◼ ► right and actually that's his ways and the character that Michael Fassbender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8183">TS</a>]
02:16:28 ◼ ► plays is interesting and he's great he's what he is a great actor and it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8188">TS</a>]
02:16:32 ◼ ► interesting character but the character he plays bears no resemblance to Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8192">TS</a>]
02:16:35 ◼ ► Jobs yeah it's so in short what I almost wish is almost wish that they had done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8195">TS</a>]
02:16:41 ◼ ► like like something like citizen keep this wouldn't have sold because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8201">TS</a>]
02:16:45 ◼ ► name Steve Jobs that is selling tickets to think but like Citizen Kane was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8205">TS</a>]
02:16:50 ◼ ► thinly veiled biography of William Randolph Hearst and instead of naming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8210">TS</a>]
02:16:57 ◼ ► the guy William Randolph Hearst they made a had enough legal problems dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8217">TS</a>]
02:17:02 ◼ ► hearst almost cut though the negative burned by naming the guy what's his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8222">TS</a>]
02:17:08 ◼ ► child's foster Charles Foster Kane so funny I remember the faster but Charles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8228">TS</a>]
02:17:14 ◼ ► George Foster Kane Charles Foster Kane they had enough problems as it but it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8234">TS</a>]
02:17:19 ◼ ► addition to the fact that it helped them legally it just let them take liberties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8239">TS</a>]
02:17:23 ◼ ► that they couldn't take otherwise but in real life steve Jobs was married to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8243">TS</a>]
02:17:32 ◼ ► know larry powell jobs by this time in the early nineties and they had kids of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8252">TS</a>]
02:17:37 ◼ ► their own and that family reconciled with Lisa at some point in the nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8257">TS</a>]
02:17:43 ◼ ► and brighter in and she was living with them for a time and you know whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8263">TS</a>]
02:17:47 ◼ ► damage was done early in his life had gotten a lot better and Steve Jobs it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8267">TS</a>]
02:17:55 ◼ ► well before 1998 whereas this movie paints a portrait of somebody who is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8275">TS</a>]
02:18:02 ◼ ► rambo resemblance to reality at all and I just and right and then just a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8282">TS</a>]
02:18:08 ◼ ► factual things are going to drive nerds crazy is that like in 1998 Steve woz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8288">TS</a>]
02:18:14 ◼ ► Wozniak was still bugging jobs to thank the Apple to engineering team at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8294">TS</a>]
02:18:24 ◼ ► and I swear to God and and jobs claims was for the Newton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8304">TS</a>]
02:18:35 ◼ ► so if things like that would bother you like you would there's no way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8315">TS</a>]
02:18:43 ◼ ► can get around them and just pretend that this is totally fictional fable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8323">TS</a>]
02:18:48 ◼ ► loosely based on somebody named Steve Jobs at Apple do not see this movie if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8328">TS</a>]
02:18:53 ◼ ► you if you don't want that shit Steve Jobs blame lies the act for the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8333">TS</a>]
02:18:57 ◼ ► then do not watch this you know so a couple of plays and 11 of them I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8337">TS</a>]
02:19:07 ◼ ► pretty recently called the Farnsworth invention which is a story about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8347">TS</a>]
02:19:12 ◼ ► founding of television essentially it's it's a very very good show if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8352">TS</a>]
02:19:18 ◼ ► nothing about the founding of television would just say it centers around a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8358">TS</a>]
02:19:23 ◼ ► named Philo Farnsworth and then RCA basically Farnsworth RCA were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8363">TS</a>]
02:19:28 ◼ ► simultaneously developing television and then it deals with basically their legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8368">TS</a>]
02:19:32 ◼ ► battles where Farnsworth alleges that RCA basically steals the founding of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8372">TS</a>]
02:19:36 ◼ ► television all of that is true the hyper like the the pivotal point in the script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8376">TS</a>]
02:19:42 ◼ ► which is how the legal battle results is wildly different from the actual results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8382">TS</a>]
02:19:49 ◼ ► of of the world's like what actually happened in real life and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8389">TS</a>]
02:19:53 ◼ ► people when they first saw the fifth the show or just kind of like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8393">TS</a>]
02:19:58 ◼ ► but Sorkin went that way because he wanted to make his point he wanted he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8398">TS</a>]
02:20:02 ◼ ► was telling a story and whether or not the story actually lined up with real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8402">TS</a>]
02:20:10 ◼ ► doesn't matter if they had her which is very much what I kind of feel like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8410">TS</a>]
02:20:17 ◼ ► from the earliest trailers of Steve Jobs again I really I wish it hadn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8417">TS</a>]
02:20:23 ◼ ► called that I wish they had figured out a different title I wish that they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8423">TS</a>]
02:20:26 ◼ ► taken more liberties with it because I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8426">TS</a>]
02:20:29 ◼ ► Charles Foster Kane US citizen kane version of Steve Jobs is life would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8429">TS</a>]
02:20:35 ◼ ► fascinating just like a steve King version of Elon Musk's life would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8435">TS</a>]
02:20:40 ◼ ► fascinating and it's not it again because it's just these three little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8440">TS</a>]
02:20:46 ◼ ► scenes you know surrounding these products event it wouldn't have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8446">TS</a>]
02:20:50 ◼ ► movie wouldn't even with giving everybody fake names wouldn't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8450">TS</a>]
02:20:54 ◼ ► the scope of a citizen kane no scope but that's sort of I don't know or just wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8454">TS</a>]
02:21:01 ◼ ► a few decades literally decades so that it's not not so fresh right I mean I met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8461">TS</a>]
02:21:07 ◼ ► you know I remember the iMac launched I'm sure you do to really wasn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8467">TS</a>]
02:21:13 ◼ ► long ago not even 20 years back the people are so if if two-thirds of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8473">TS</a>]
02:21:21 ◼ ► people in this film are still living in Moneyball was the same issue right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8481">TS</a>]
02:21:27 ◼ ► don't I actually don't know the logistic like I read the book but the book in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8487">TS</a>]
02:21:30 ◼ ► film or a little bit different in my ways but I don't even yeah I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8490">TS</a>]
02:21:36 ◼ ► if feels it feels weird I don't like watching biopics especially recent pics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8496">TS</a>]
02:21:40 ◼ ► for that very reason yeah I think Moneyball again it's weird and I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8500">TS</a>]
02:21:45 ◼ ► realize too that I'm intimately familiar with apple and their products and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8505">TS</a>]
02:21:50 ◼ ► know at least Steve Jobs is public life and so obvious inaccuracies jump out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8510">TS</a>]
02:21:56 ◼ ► me and in a way that I'm not quite with Moneyball because I'm a baseball fan but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8516">TS</a>]
02:22:01 ◼ ► I can't say that I followed the Oakland Athletics to the degree that I follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8521">TS</a>]
02:22:06 ◼ ► but I think that the money I don't think people associated with it the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8526">TS</a>]
02:22:11 ◼ ► people in it really had money much to complain about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8531">TS</a>]
02:22:14 ◼ ► yeah I don't think Billy being a complainer Brad Pitt is playing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8534">TS</a>]
02:22:19 ◼ ► I'm great on every level you know I don't know it's it's why I have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8539">TS</a>]
02:22:27 ◼ ► mixed feelings about it it's not it was an enjoyable movie but it's absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8547">TS</a>]
02:22:32 ◼ ► positively wasn't don't have anything to do with jobs are almost very little I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8552">TS</a>]
02:22:40 ◼ ► would have been surprised if it did honestly I wanted to tell a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8560">TS</a>]
02:22:44 ◼ ► study and he wanted to he wanted to shape the character in the he's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8564">TS</a>]
02:22:47 ◼ ► really obsessed the last couple I wanna see the last couple projects done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8567">TS</a>]
02:22:51 ◼ ► father-daughter relationships you know yes yeah I think that was more of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8571">TS</a>]
02:22:58 ◼ ► like oh yeah I can read the Steve Jobs movie but not actually gonna write about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8578">TS</a>]
02:23:02 ◼ ► Steve Jobs in the right about what I want to write about and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8582">TS</a>]
02:23:05 ◼ ► fundamentally that is what this movie's about Aaron Sorkin Steve Jobs is is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8585">TS</a>]
02:23:09 ◼ ► father-daughter relationship story which could have been great great movie if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8589">TS</a>]
02:23:14 ◼ ► was entitled to jobs and even in in my opinion even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8594">TS</a>]
02:23:19 ◼ ► with that it was increased because I thought that third third act was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8599">TS</a>]
02:23:23 ◼ ► like that it just was just didn't ring true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8603">TS</a>]
02:23:30 ◼ ► not not true to like what I know to be factually true but like just contrived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8610">TS</a>]
02:23:35 ◼ ► is maybe the word yeah here's my notes melodramatic be contrived it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8615">TS</a>]
02:23:41 ◼ ► a better word and I thought even even bordering a little bit boring and it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8621">TS</a>]
02:23:47 ◼ ► be interesting to see how it plays I'm curious to see how big of a hit as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8627">TS</a>]
02:23:50 ◼ ► will say this to end it really made me cringe as it was a theater full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8630">TS</a>]
02:23:54 ◼ ► college students good crowd I mean it was free I think free movies go over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8634">TS</a>]
02:23:58 ◼ ► pretty well pretty well oncologists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8638">TS</a>]
02:24:01 ◼ ► when their credit came up everybody's up there is a young woman right behind me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8641">TS</a>]
02:24:10 ◼ ► she said her friend wow that was my dad I'd be using an Android I swear to god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8650">TS</a>]
02:24:18 ◼ ► that was what she does not paint a good picture know and I just like that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8658">TS</a>]
02:24:30 ◼ ► there that I don't really understand if you really wanted to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8670">TS</a>]
02:24:33 ◼ ► father-daughter piece you could have done a really interesting things I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8673">TS</a>]
02:24:37 ◼ ► I think the iMac from a product standpoint is it pretty pivotal moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8677">TS</a>]
02:24:41 ◼ ► in Apple's history but I you know if you really wanted to compare Steve Jobs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8681">TS</a>]
02:24:46 ◼ ► father you should have done the iPhone release because that actually gives him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8686">TS</a>]
02:24:50 ◼ ► a family that's not Lisa you know that that gives him a chance to basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8690">TS</a>]
02:24:56 ◼ ► press the redo button on being a father and I don't know this is me rewriting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8696">TS</a>]
02:25:04 ◼ ► I know better than anyone during screenwriter but I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8704">TS</a>]
02:25:08 ◼ ► this is not a lot you know that's the thing there isn't really much of a plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8708">TS</a>]
02:25:13 ◼ ► to spoil I mean it's a biopic never even get because it ends in 1998 there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8713">TS</a>]
02:25:18 ◼ ► absolutely no know nothing about his illness or anything like that but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8718">TS</a>]
02:25:23 ◼ ► like they can't help themselves and it's like oh come on in 1998 is darrow's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8723">TS</a>]
02:25:29 ◼ ► I'm gonna fix that i'm gonna put 500 songs pocket now 5,000 songs not well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8729">TS</a>]
02:25:36 ◼ ► between 500 and 5,000 but I'm gonna do it I'm gonna put it in your pocket cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8736">TS</a>]
02:25:39 ◼ ► I'm so sick of seeing you with that stupid a player and it's ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8739">TS</a>]
02:25:46 ◼ ► zactly exactly they turned to the camera you get a little musical staying at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8746">TS</a>]
02:25:56 ◼ ► shame you know i i really like stored in the he's he's very flawed as a writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8756">TS</a>]
02:26:01 ◼ ► but I I love I love musical dialogue and yes the idea yet the idea of creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8761">TS</a>]
02:26:08 ◼ ► jobs or at least very issues like jobs has great musical dialogue Sorkin has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8768">TS</a>]
02:26:14 ◼ ► great musical dialogue this could possibly be amazing or Sorkin could fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8774">TS</a>]
02:26:18 ◼ ► down one of his rivals and it could be I do it there is good dialogue I'm again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8778">TS</a>]
02:26:23 ◼ ► you have to be able to let go and I i enough of a a cinema fans that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8783">TS</a>]
02:26:29 ◼ ► sort of at times if the movie is made by talented people I can I can disengage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8789">TS</a>]
02:26:34 ◼ ► from whether or not the movie is driving me in and just sort of watch it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8794">TS</a>]
02:26:38 ◼ ► different way and I could do that and they're definitely could like what's her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8798">TS</a>]
02:26:43 ◼ ► name who plays Joanna Hoffman Kate Winslet Kate Winslet really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8803">TS</a>]
02:26:48 ◼ ► I think if anybody gets any kind of award nominations are going to be her I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8808">TS</a>]
02:26:52 ◼ ► think she's remarkable and it's a great character and I don't know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8812">TS</a>]
02:26:56 ◼ ► about the real join often so I can compare it you know i i don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8816">TS</a>]
02:27:00 ◼ ► she has a super great role in this movie really well written really great dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8820">TS</a>]
02:27:07 ◼ ► over the you know the fifteen-year stretch that it covers and she just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8827">TS</a>]
02:27:13 ◼ ► she's the reason to see the movie I think and it's it's a great performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8833">TS</a>]
02:27:18 ◼ ► in really really well written character that's actually really phenomenal here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8838">TS</a>]
02:27:24 ◼ ► because I know Sorkin's had trouble writing women lately so I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8844">TS</a>]
02:27:27 ◼ ► she's she's the exam is it a great great female character in my opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8847">TS</a>]
02:27:32 ◼ ► number one reason to watch a movie and I can totally see why actors would want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8852">TS</a>]
02:27:36 ◼ ► play his characters because I really feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8856">TS</a>]
02:27:39 ◼ ► yeah yeah I feel like I feel like I said all the main characters jobs and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8859">TS</a>]
02:27:46 ◼ ► Joanna Hoffman and Andy Herzfeld and why was and although the whys that Seth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8866">TS</a>]
02:27:52 ◼ ► Rogen place again is why I would say he bears less resemblance to the real was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8872">TS</a>]
02:27:57 ◼ ► then then Fassbender's jobs does he doesnt bear any resemblance to the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8877">TS</a>]
02:28:01 ◼ ► wise not even just physically just everything about him is very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8881">TS</a>]
02:28:04 ◼ ► but it's an interesting character in a movie if you don't pretend that he's was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8884">TS</a>]
02:28:07 ◼ ► was and especially john sculley played by gosh what his name Jeff Jeff Jeff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8887">TS</a>]
02:28:18 ◼ ► Daniels love and he and he does so well with Sorkin's rating I mean he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8898">TS</a>]
02:28:22 ◼ ► highlight of the newsroom for me and he he really steals the show in this too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8902">TS</a>]
02:28:27 ◼ ► and he does have a huge role but he's one of the major you know major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8907">TS</a>]
02:28:31 ◼ ► characters and he's he's really good really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8911">TS</a>]
02:28:34 ◼ ► yeah so anyway that's that's my talk show review of Steve Jobs good good good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8914">TS</a>]
02:28:43 ◼ ► overview I think I will see it I you should see I would recommend these I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8923">TS</a>]
02:28:48 ◼ ► mean I just came I'm gonna go into it as you said with with film critic eyes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8928">TS</a>]
02:28:54 ◼ ► and not with not with tech writer job eyes on its I'll bet you'll come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8934">TS</a>]
02:29:00 ◼ ► another way to put it is it's exactly what you think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8940">TS</a>]
02:29:04 ◼ ► yeah and it's disappointing in some ways but we're seeing others if you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8944">TS</a>]
02:29:10 ◼ ► aside their actual stuff you can protect if you can ignore the fact that most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8950">TS</a>]
02:29:14 ◼ ► the movie isn't actually true but it's fiction I i'm not accept I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8954">TS</a>]
02:29:20 ◼ ► expecting to do a note for note by a pic when it was announced that he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxZY6g8/8960">TS</a>]
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