00:00:00 ◼ ► yeah we can get right into it a long and when did you know you had your the dev [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/0">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► yes and what's the story I mean I guess it doesn't matter I'm curious I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/4">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► get the dev kit I guess I should have signed up for it I just assumed that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/12">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► would get a review review in it but they didn't a.m. I didn't get one till [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/15">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► yesterday so we're recording here on Friday October 30 I got mine from Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/21">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► yesterday on 29th and I i dont think I touched one yet no I haven't since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/26">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► event last month are you going to post it on a lot of press outlets just signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/31">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► yeah well I did is that what happened but I think a lot of them did get review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/40">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► units too and I just you know it seems haphazard doesn't seem like there is any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/43">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► rhyme or reason to it a cool guy who didn't like TechCrunch tengo until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/48">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► yesterday either yeah I don't think any girl line now he didn't did really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/53">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► she had access to one and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► yeah it's such a weird thing I get mad get so inside baseball but I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/65">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► that's what the point of pride casters yeah he is that it was the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/71">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► secretive device give once it was unveiled you know so there's that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/76">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► unveiled on stage in September I think they did a pretty good job keeping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/82">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► under wraps everybody knew that a new Apple TV was coming but nobody nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/85">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► knew what the remote was exactly like her stuff but nothing I mean I'd end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/92">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► people who'd seen them but not right but then they started taking the developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/99">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► requests like the next day and some people started getting on like a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/105">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► later and I guess you're under an NDA you know based on your EDC account and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/111">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► they weren't supposed to write about it but it certainly wasn't a well-kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/116">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► new and he got it could you not to do not let it never works the best the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/122">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► example of that would be the iFixit guys who signed up for the defecate agreed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/133">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► an NDA and then as soon as it came they take to get a pardon published there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/139">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► they're taking part I was pretty frustrated actually because of various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/144">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► things happen to do right and it so we don't want to piss him off and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/154">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► cannot do it like I think it's great that they did this I think it's good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/159">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► I think it was a mistake to sell into a book should be like double triple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/163">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► depressive was going to be a white where do you think they did it well I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/168">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► they wanted everybody to get it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/174">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► responsible and encourage people to work and probably have to listen you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/177">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► like maybe in a way that like Steve Jobs had to take a $1 salary and there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/185">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► have to pay a CEO or something like that I swear that it was something and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/196">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► over something like that to where they have to sell it for some amount of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/201">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► is tight account for it in some way anyway so welcome to the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/204">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► America's favorite accounting accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/211">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► sure but this week with Salesforce now so anyway though they had these out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/214">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► there lots of journalists and writers block them even though they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/224">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► going to develop apps on them and I guess they mostly stuck to the NDA but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/227">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► it wasn't like it was tough to get but then the reviews all there was clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/231">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► like some some number of people just like without every other Apple devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/235">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► iPhones and iPads that they were they got pre-release access to them probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/239">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► about a week before and then the embargo was was clearly he was six six six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/245">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► o'clock eastern on Wednesday cuz all of a sudden you do it right and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/252">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► actually out it having dinner with our friend whiskas and Brady Haran you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/258">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► the guy from hello internet he was over here in the States we were how was I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/266">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► was sudden we were talking about the fact that there are no reviews of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► Apple TV and then we're at dinner and then all of a sudden it was like all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/275">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► a sudden they were like 15 reviews of that booty be but it was weird likes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/280">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► take you know I'm or wasn't on that list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/284">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► TechCrunch wasn't on the list very strange and his teammates who was which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/287">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► makes sense yeah a lot of media stuff together and christine is she said been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/293">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► kicking ass yeah I just actually just before I we've sort of record actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/299">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► just linked to her review is the only one I've read completely in and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/303">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► like to accept that she nailed it I was like every single thing there is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/308">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► ya gettin get interviews and surface yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/312">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► yeah interview Jony ive journey I and going to bank on it should have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/317">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► into it right when she did and she got to choose she's the one who got access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/325">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► to when Tim Cook did the meet and greet with the teenagers at WWC yes she went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/329">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► in that and I think that was a good impromptu I think it might have been but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/338">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► I think it was you know it was clear you know right place right time you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/346">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► yeah exactly that's good yeah I know you've only had it a day ahead mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/350">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► longer guess I can talk about it as well and I am actually mad because if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/359">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► don't do another day of Kitimat he said this is my case my question I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/370">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► before we go on to is what was your experience like have you been able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/375">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► upgrade from the the betas of the OS to the gym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/379">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► yeah it is but it didn't require using the diagnostic port or did it does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/383">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► support I mean that USB port right but they even tell you in the instructions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/392">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► they're like USB seaport and then they're like this is his for diagnostics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/396">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► yeah well you know count against you just go to the website you download the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/400">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► package like the OS package and then you connect to itunes to it shows up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/408">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► iTunes and then you just click Restore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/415">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► great so it's it's exactly like doing with it yet so you connected to your Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/421">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► with USB like the phone and then you can just do it from the idea and its USB CD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/429">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► which is one of the poorest out of being a potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/436">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► yes I guess if your computer was a MacBook the new the new MacBook one port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/443">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► thing you would have to have a USB see the USBC cable yeah that's what I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/451">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► really yeah I mean when i buy the MacBook I like to do little things I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/457">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► known for years BC of one that turns your PC into so when did the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/466">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► go live yesterday ok I can tell you what time but I think about noon because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/475">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► we had to do with us so we had a GSM ended a few days then to get the App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/482">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► Store and it was kind of confusing we needed to be download EOS get back onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/490">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► the device for the absolute of mistaken identification numbers identical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/495">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► wonder what they once which or I don't know exactly did a great now minus is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzpKOFY/504">TS</a>]