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00:00:21 ◼   ► I'm really great I'm great mood [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► you're kidding i'm going to particularly good mood so glad you're not worried [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► you're talking about the snowpocalypse right yeah right [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► the general Nass trophy yeah it's just what do they call winter storm Jonas [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► which is it obviously a big point of conversation here to here at the [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► riverhouse home Jonas's is is a bit impressed he's excited easy he's like a [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► hashtag on twitter down so he's very excited about that your son is trending [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► but he's he is he's disappointed and slightly embarrassed by the fact that [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► this is a big storm that is that is coming on a friday night which is the [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► worst possible time for a storm to hit in terms of maybe getting a day off of [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► school I could not could not possibly be worse [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► I'm like there was no note note conversation whatsoever about canceling [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► school today in advance of the snowstorm because they are so certain of one it [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► that is not going to come until this evening that there was no need to cancel [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► school in pants at this point science is working against children because when we [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► were younger we did not have this kind of technology to know we had a rough [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► idea of what kind of thing would happen like any given week you know and also i [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► don't think there's that as much concern for like makeup days like I feel like [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► when I was a kid you don't get into the makeup days if you had like five around [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► 10 snow days and now a date today everything was on such a tight schedule [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► right like maybe maybe they go back after a bunch of snow days they'd assign [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► one of the school secretaries hey go back and count just how many days we've [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► had school you know we should probably write that down [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► okay somebody go Louise can you can check that out for us now I'm excited [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► here's why I mean I'm not excited but I'm excited about the snow but i'm happy [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► i'm in a good mood because i was i look up terribly sick one on Wednesday and [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► just just felt almost dead and then I felt a little better but still [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► definitely sick yesterday and today is the day where I feel I still feel I'm [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► not like good I'm you know like but I'm on the upswing and I do [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► me that's it's the best it's better better than being a hundred percent [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► health is that day after you've you've had a bug for a couple of days where you [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► feel like I've you know I woke up feeling good day especially when you [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► have like up especially especially when you have a long cold and you know maybe [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► you're just starting the coughing phase or something you know that kind of late [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► and but that day you stop getting worse is such a good day the first day we were [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► like a god i might survive this I you know you told me about that yesterday [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► and i have to say you sound way better than I expected that i was thinking like [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► you're sick Marcus sick [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► Dan's had some kind of crazy likes stomach bug like there's something I was [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► kind of just sitting you know when you're waking up and get paranoid i was [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► waking up and I was just thinking about like how many people I know are sick [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► right now is this a big east coast thing is this my they say there's like this [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► killer flu that's going around these guys well I want to ask you about this i [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► want to get your medical advice honestly yeah I love to help is that I i think i [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► had the flu and Amy tells me no way did you have the flu because nobody shakes [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► the flew off and 48 hours so you obviously didn't have the flu you have a [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► cold but I know what a cold is like for me a cold is entirely in my head and my [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► throat [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► it is in my nose it's in my my forehead [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► sometimes it's like pressure in my eyes and it's always in my throat [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► this was a whole body this is what happened i went to a tuesday night i [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► felt perfect i felt a hundred percent healthy went to bed woke up Wednesday [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► morning and I felt horrible [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► I mean just that I was like I think i'm sick or something and my whole body felt [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► like maybe I had signed up for the gym the day before and and decided i would [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► do everything we had the overall like body soreness and heaviness all without [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► I mean real real I mean like my legs hurt I felt like I I was you know maybe [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► I put on a hundred pounds and my legs weren't suited to to carry this much [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► weight up and down the stairs [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► my arms hurt everything that was you know it it and muscle ache you know like [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► like I had gone to the gym at you know that [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► and worked out after never having lifted weights in my life and and overall every [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► muscle in my body hurt ya headache [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► clearly i felt like i had a fever I always sensed it to me or not a cold [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► that I think that's the flu [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► mhm I mean what are the other options i mean what it would have a call me maybe [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► you got a differential differential diagnosis [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► mmm yeah no I is funny to say like for me I totally agree [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► I at like if something starts for me and always starts with an A [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► oh and uh oh I get a cold it's usually like oh my throat doesn't hurt [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► exactly but my throat feels weird that's the first thing is like swallowing [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► doesn't hurt exactly but I noticed swallowing that's the first 0 red flag [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► but what you're describing is something really similar maybe a month and a half [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► ago maybe a little longer and I woke up and I was like oh I'm getting the flu [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► I'm definitely getting the flu and this is gonna go out maybe like a Saturday or [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► something or friday anyway and then the thing was it kinda presented as being [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► flu-like I didn't have any of the you know the tiny stuff but i had i did feel [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► like really heavy really tired and then it turned into what felt like a minute [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► look within a day and felt like I was getting over a cold within a day so I [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► wonder if there's some kind of a new hybrid cold flu that might be out there [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► and I think that sometimes you can get lucky and get a mild case of the flu [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► like I realized that if you really get whacked right right square you know [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► right now it's not right in the bullseye by the moving you're down for like two [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► weeks and that's that's terrible it's been years since I've had something like [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► this but this is clearly not a cold you really understand the difference [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► not really i don't either I i say that are you say something so we [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► self-diagnosed like I self-diagnose you can get like ants can get a little cold [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► or or you go like oh man I'm coming down with the flu are you going yeah if I got [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► a 24-hour bug I don't know any of that actually it's what I do with my daughter [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► to was my daughter [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► I'm the house shaman like I'm the one who tries to predict like how much this [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► is going to destroy as you know as soon as a kid seconds you know game over [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► everybody will get sick and it's going to be the worst and so i'll go like okay [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► with my my rattles in my headdress and my beads and i'll be like me [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► hmm Eleanor will be fine in by sunday afternoon i'll make a pronouncement it's [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► really right but then sometimes it is just weird I feel like colds and flus [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► are changing i feel like it used to be you knew how long you're gonna get sick [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► i think something has mutated and it's changing it might be the water it could [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► be meets but I think stuff is changing for when i was a kid i I've always felt [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► like it's at the difference between the two things it's you know it's all [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► nebulous to me it's a lot of the symptoms overlap but i did I googled it [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► again and you know Here I am looking to get inside think about it [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► yeah google it I mean there's no better way to get expert medical advice but [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► there's like a checklist on the WebMD and they're like a cold you know often [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► comes on slowly you know you like you said you get that heads up you you have [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► that day we were like oh my god I think feel like there's a fifty percent chance [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► I'm gonna be sick and shit you feel you getting like twenty percent you're [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► getting like eight percent worse every hour like fairly consistently you know [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► what I'll tell you what a big telltale sign of a cold from his big telltale [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► sign like the 24 hour advance notice like Here I am [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► wake up field five note no suspicions no warning flags whatever I make some [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► coffee i'm reading some new seen what happened overnight and then I take the [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► first sip of coffee and tastes like shit like a terrible like how can anybody [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► drink this and then I think that I and then I quick-like run through that i did [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► i make it wrong that I not put enough beans in and then I think oh shit i'm [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► going you know what it is buddy you know what it is i'm getting set your exactly [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► you're ignoring it you're trying to throw yourself off the scent but that's [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► probably as scientists we can look at this and say that's probably a little [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► bit about sent it's got to have to do with your sense of smell it might have [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► to do with like your throat not feeling so good but your body is telling you [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► you're gonna get sick buddy [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► yeah and it's like something my tongue you know any other thing in in advance [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► is it something acidic like orange juice will will start stinging the back of my [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► throat like I don't have a sore throat yet but like something acidic like [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► orange juice does it doesn't go down doesn't it isn't pleasurable as I [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► swallow and that's to me is like who the next day [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► see and that they say that's a cold that called you have advanced warning and a [TS]

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00:08:56 ◼   ► seldom has a fever seldom has a headache and I I had a terrible fever i would I [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► didn't take a measurement of it I don't have a thermometer i would estimate my [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► fever on on Wednesday and an overnight going in tomorrow I would estimated [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► around $MONEY hundred and seven [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► oh that's pretty high [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► well I well I tell you what I'd but I think the reason I felt started feeling [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► better yesterday I think I sweated it out [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► I think I sweated this flew out of my body because I'll tell you what I woke [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► up I woke up yesterday morning and it was like I was like a grease-stained [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► every single thing you're mentioning I don't know if there's any basis in [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► science or medicine for describing but I thought all of those things when I was a [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► little kid he had a fever you had to stay in bed until you could sweat it out [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► is that a thing I think it is i don't believe right eye and I know it's [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► different with small children with small children you worry don't think you want [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► to like a hundred and fourteen oh yeah they're aching and you want to take care [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► of that because I could you know that's serious business but i think is it as an [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► adult you don't say I don't take anything to be to take you know take the [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► fever down whatever I feel like your body wants to have a fever then let it [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► go it you know you'll sweat this out let me ask you this [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► I think what I don't speak for you but I feel like anyone who has kids can agree [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► that its children the cause illness because a little disgusting sponges [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► actually touch everything that each other kids boogers on a dare and and [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► then they rub around on the playground and then they come home and bring that [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► into your home [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► do you have a sense let me ask you this is a factual question do you know what [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► your schools rule is for when you should or should not send your kid to school [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► that's an excellent question i don't i think Amy would probably know a little [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► bit more but it-it-it [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► it is in the modern age and you know I I mean this goes back decades i think when [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► you and I were kids were at the pivot point of this clearly before our time [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► there was a stay-at-home parent and a lot of households usually obviously the [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► mother and you know in today's world there are you know it's not so many [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► stay-at-home parents and also i mean like i can tell you are my my daughter [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► is in you know enrichment and aftercare until usually through for every day but [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► their kids were there till dark there did they have six like the parents need [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► those both parents are working there is no one to take care of that kid unless [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► someone doesn't get paid right and so I actually I don't know the rules but i [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► know that a lot of kids go when I probably shouldn't and probably when the [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► parents kind of wish that they could leave him home but that it is such an [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► enormous a thing to untangle from to if you don't send the kids to school what [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► do you do and and you know and a lot of times it pops up it only pops up in the [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► morning you know when you wake up and it's you know you might have meetings [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► you have stuff so I i am super sympathetic to that I don't know and I [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► know that the school's rules for this is is not very well I'll tell you what ours [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► are so first of all to your point I think the pendulum has swung i think [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► that i think that there was a time you know in the post you know Benjamin Spock [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► era where we want to toughen up our kids not turn turn them into cities and [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► dancers and so you sent him to school you gotta send it yeah you gotta go to [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► school don't matter how sick you are and then I think I feel like from from for [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► me in the last I want to even want to have a job in the nineties they made it [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► very clear to people you know don't come to work if you're sick because you make [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► other people sick [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► we never used to talk about that you just be you had to be home because you [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► were ill but then there's the sense of no let's be more you know the pendulum [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► swings that way you say like oh no let's not make other people sick [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► it's my understanding today and I am I get this wrong but I believe this is [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► correct because i don't like going to school and see how much it's not [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► yeah makes me out i hate those kids who are just walking down the hallway and [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► coughing I get all like Howard Hughes I get old and Benjamin when I see that and [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► so are what is it did you know and I hate to say it and like my kids bit [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► fastidious so I he is not this way but there's a classic it just seems [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► completely ignorant of snot coming out [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► the nose it's just used to it he doesn't mind it you can see one you know the [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► really the really the really classic pro levels not kid will have loved the crust [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► around the rim right and then just all kind of moist droplet like pine tar [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► following and then you know might take years for that one to fall but it's [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► it almost looks like they're like one of those like a lifetime [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► well you know how like there's like two kinds of aliens and star wars the ones [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► that look like totally there like some kind of outlandish design and then [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► there's the ones that are like mostly human but have like a little thing [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► different + like it looks like you know maybe you're an alien who has like a [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► crusty rock formation and coming out where your nose should be uh huh uh [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► here's what I think this is what my wife says i think i might be getting this [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► wrong but I feel like what she told me was you keep your kid home officially if [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► they have a fever vomiting or diarrhea [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► otherwise they're good to go you keep eating like literally have a nopin and [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► as long as they're not vomiting an inconvenience people he's just really [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► pregnant isn't that nuts i mention that honestly I whether it's official or not [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► it sounds at it seems to me like that is a practically speaking the way it goes [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► like and those are the think the fever is the one where it's like a kid with a [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► fever is so miserable [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► it's they discovered your little you feel it so much more like I hate having [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► a fever but I remember the fever's i still remember the ear aches and fears [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► of my childhood title that still in my in my mind I feel like I still remember [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► thinking maybe short of my first migraine like this is the most [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► excruciating thing I will ever feel is like the feeling of being out of your [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► body and yet incredibly connected to the pain in your body when you have a fever [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► and then also liked having the same dream over and over [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► mmm yeah yeah look at the school listen geography today John huh [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► I remember the thing I remember about having fever as a kid was how severe the [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► chills were and what a great name for the symptom that is I mean it's kinda [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► obvious but it it sounds like a Stephen King novel and when you're a kid having [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► the chills for me at least I remember [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► oddly it there was nothing you could do you you could stop swimming in and [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► lighter fluid and light me on fire and it wouldn't for me up you know i love [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► you know I had a fever you know torso and trunk would feel like they were in a [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► walk-in freezer right in my head my feeling was in a microwave at the same [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► time and I could not stand anything touching my skin right and like end up [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► like helping me right in Mike the real life like you know I think it's only [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► like 20 degrees here in Philadelphia today it's 26 was very familiar with you [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► go out and weather like that and it's unpleasant but eventually your skin [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► starts to burn you know there's my god i don't know there's some kind of way that [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► you're nervous sort of compensate for this and they're like all right we gotta [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► destroy cold we're gonna you know even this out when you have the chills [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► especially as a kid like you said it's so much more sensitive to cold just [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► never stops it it it and it it's the worst [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► let's like you know I having a time to google this so I'm just gonna guess but [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► you know what is that something is happening something is telling you your [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► body is way out of whack and i think i think what a fever is doing is whatever [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► it is that caused causing the fever is trying to raise your body temperature to [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► kill that thing [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► yeah what is just sweat it out sweat it out that salty that's what happened i [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► didn't fight the fever and then last but not not this night not not thursday [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► night going today but wednesday night going into Thursday I sweated it out i [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► woke up as a as a breathing crease crease thing so so wins day it's friday [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► as we record this but like let's say around if you can remember in your state [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► around lunchtime wednesday what was your prognosis do you like you know what did [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► you feel like oh this is gonna be something i get over or this is going to [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► be like a to weaker or it's just gonna be you know what it's gonna be [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► I never had I i watched Say Never not come with her but I haven't been sick [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► for like more than a handful of days and years [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► I'm you know I have to say I'm unfortunate to have overall very good [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► health you not to sweat it out [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► yeah I I but I I wouldn't have guessed that I would feel as good as I do today [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► i thought i was looking at it maybe like through the weekend type thing [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► let me tell you thanks what a pathetic thing is an adult like the high point of [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► your week is you get sick anymore i love it [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► let me tell you that there's not like I got a free model or something I gotta [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► concluded with here's a feels bad [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► it's my wednesday my wednesday is I had no idea I was getting sick i woke up and [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► and actually I should say when I woke up I didn't really even think that I was [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► sick I just felt sore and I thought you know that boy I'm really bad shape [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► because I'd you know run some errands for you know like monday and tuesday [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► times from you know walked a couple miles and my legs felt so store I was [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► like that is pathetic that my legs feel so sore after just with normal urban [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► walking huh [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► I'm and then I started like thinking a little bit more about how i felt and i [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► was like you know what I'm sick and I'm . all I'm hot and it's like the heats [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► not on high [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► I've got a fever and then i realized i was just parched with thirst and I was [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► like this is good and I realized I it just dawned on me very slowly like I've [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► got the flu or something and I thought I'm parched with thirst [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► I I i cannot i just need something cold to drink but I really want it had to be [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► bubbly I hadn't needed fizzy water because it the idea of drinking [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► stillwater was absolutely disgusting to me it just felt like it would I normally [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► don't like to drink stillwater but at this moment is getting once you really [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► get in fizzy water there's something slightly revolting about room [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► temperature flat water and it's exaggerated when i'm sick in the same [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► way that coffee doesn't taste good or I'm sick only something fizzy taste good [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► it like it's the way my my tongue feels I need the bubbles to like kind of burn [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► the sick off the tongue or something so I go downstairs and all my all my [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► sodastream bottles are empty [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► that's my own fault because I'm the only one in the house to drink the stuff it's [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► not like I can't blame anybody else because nobody else drinks it so i go to [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► fill one up and put it in the the penguin and I start pumping it and it [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► makes that six sound when one at the canisters empty so they'll co2 canisters [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► empty now months ago I had switched from keeping this pear canisters under the [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► sink to keep them down on our first floor which is sort of a basement garage [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► level we just know living area down there but it's not really a basement [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► because it's sort of street-level but its ground level and we have I got [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► storeroom down there and keep them there too as a courtesy to 2a me to not take [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► up space under the sink with with my own fizzy water thing that i only have to [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► replace every couple weeks so I go downstairs and I'm barefoot but it's [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► only like 20 degrees outside and it's like it's tile floor and it's just so [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► cold it and I just I couldn't take it so i'm down on the first floor and it's a [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► stone i added i would say that the floor was around negative 30 or 40 degrees [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► that's pretty cold and i go back to work [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► just one of the properties it like a concrete kind of just like it's not [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► created style it's sometimes even worse i think i think tile will typically be [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► 40 to 60 degrees cold and sacraments and that's why you gotta put water in your [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► tub i go to the back room and where they are and i read stay I gotta get down on [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► the floor to findings and all three of the ones i have their they're all empty [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► already know [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► so apparently at some point my system is I have fork i keep four canisters of the [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► the co2 and when I have three empties I go to the williams-sonoma across town [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► and and you know swap the three old ones out for three new ones and then I begin [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► my fourth is the one that so apparently I screwed that up whenever I swapped the [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► last one out but so i'm left with with nothing I've got nothing and i'm already [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► down there on this cold floor [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► no I've got no fizzy water but I need something fizzy so I had a beer [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► oh good for you and internet that's got the performance characteristics [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► yeah yeah it's busy and so did the beer doesn't freeze when it's sitting it was [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► an outsider was in downstairs refrigerator that was in the [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► refrigerator your regular refrigerator primary refrigerator that so I had a [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► beer and went back to bed but i haven't i think is going to tell you that's [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► totally permissible because you're hydrating you're helping to sweat it out [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► and you're getting the busyness that would prevent you from not being [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► disgusted by fire water right so that woke back up around noon did to help you [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► sleep at all [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► yeah well it was about an hour then I took a shower which is the best I've [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► felt you feel good intersect you feel good when you take a shower [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► 6a day it's the backs right yeah it's like grabbed routes mount I mean her 6x [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► know it's literally only thing it will give me relief or make me feel like me [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► feel less awful [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► for a little while and then even for a little while after i get out i'll [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► continue to feel like less awful it's the only relief and if you have a cold [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► and if your stuff in some way the steam you know it temporarily opens the up and [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► stuff like that just feels good so I felt I started feeling better again I [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► got dressed put some nice clean clothes on and and I was going to go out and buy [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► I couldn't I couldn't make it far enough away there's no way at in my state I was [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► going to make it far enough to get the co2 cartridges I was gonna buys some [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► Pellegrino or some perrier or something that you know just a block or two away [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► and so I'd i went to the store and we didn't have any orange juice in the [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► house either so i think i went to the store and the only stuff i wanted to buy [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► 12 x 50 bottles of fizzy water some orange juice and i forget what else [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► something else so that those little cans of san pellegrino the orange ones you [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► know what I mean [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► oh yeah those are nice with a little wrapper on them yeah exactly what the [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► little wraparound sort of like a cross between fizzy water and and soda [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► you know the reason and it was like the heaviest stuff you can possibly buy from [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► from a market and I i realized that i $FULLPHONENUM i realize exactly who I [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► felt like what my posture look like and the pace that I was walking at and and [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► my capabilities of carrying these groceries is I was C Montgomery burns [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► you look like a question mark [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► yes but like I didn't have this is I don't have the strength to keep my back [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► straight and your you're a tall fellow so you you bet that was pretty pretty as [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► you walk in with a little orange sodas all that's so sad but here i am on [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► friday and i feel you're not you know the really looks like you got the [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► instacart there in Philadelphia [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► actually I don't know how that works oh my god I can't believe you think that's [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► and I was it would get it to me within an hour [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► well in San Francisco it's usually two hours depending how busy they are it's [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► two hours but sometimes they have one hour [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► availability yeah yeah I'll bring it right out to you but no but yeah I just [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► instantly just the dreaded even leaving the house in a situation like that it's [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► just can't do it i will add that amy was busy [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► at the time she did I forget where she was but she was out of the house and and [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► so it wasn't as though amy was there and wasn't willing to help me I i needed to [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► help myself or remained completely parched just keep telling yourself that [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► thinks she saw that I was getting sick and got the hell out anyway you're right [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► about the kids as the source i feel like if we could now I mean we don't want to [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► kill all the children but if we could not immediately know if we could isolate [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► them we could just collect all the children of the world and and you know [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► Lords of the fly them like let's send them to Australia because I didn't have [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► any land down there put them all in Australia for maybe like an 18-month [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► stretch who said some of them obviously will be killed by spiders I well I mean [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► that's inevitable that is that a stereotype John that their strikers [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► all-stars just this giant deadly spiders [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► yeah I feel like yeah I would say Australia most of Australia is pretty [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► much like that room in indiana jones and the temple of doom [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► that's kind of what i imagine like not and maybe a little better lit but yeah [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► absolutely [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► huh yeah yeah what you got you got to play howler monkeys you got you got a [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► killer wombats like it's just two people with big knives [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► I don't know it sounds like a pretty rough place i I'm just picking a place [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► that's isolated you know but you but yeah wow if we could just eliminate [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► children for about a year-and-a-half it isolate children for also merge [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► especially somewhere dry where they could sweat it out you expect whatever [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► you'd like you got a year to be sick [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► get out here since we would eradicate every disease known to man out of you [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► every contagious disease at least known a man may be other than STDs but the [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► rest of the world let's hope they don't discover Australia really makes a little [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► wild [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► yeah I had in my head that stds might not be helped by this but in terms of [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► diseases like cold since the night in terms of diseases like colds and flus if [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► we could get rid of the children for about a year to have just to let these [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► things they would just die right out and we just got one day a week during that [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► you're scrubbing everything you know [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► well here's the thing and I'm gonna shut up about this i think the hand-washing [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► thing makes a huge difference and my kids preschool they washed hands you [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► wash hands when you like grow [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► and kids you wash hands when you arrive at school you wash hands when you leave [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► school and you go and you wash hands at every transition point throughout the [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► day and i'm not a hand-washing lunatic except that i have seen the difference [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► and I I know what a difference it makes it doesn't it won't like stop your kid [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► from getting sick but it makes a huge difference because you just think about [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► like we go downtown we ride public transit we go to the movies and then [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► make it like you know grab some popcorn and sticks and around like are you [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► kidding you have any idea where your hand has been do you know how much of [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► San Francisco is on your hand right now it's true [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► yeah I mean you know she sits on the floor and public transit like don't do [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► that like what you would be doing now in her school now [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► no no the real busy they're all busy the can wash hands all the time and so she [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► gets sick a lot more I i realized i realized i see the logic of the [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► legislation you know the the employees must wash hands that there's it must be [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► a sign that states those exact words and every restaurant [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► yeah I think you have to put up the sign i don't know if you have to reinforce [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► the actual hand-washing but I with the thing that always gets me about those [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► signs is the idea that if you're not an employee [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► whatever you want to do yeah but conversely also usually kind of love the [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► idea of somebody who works in the kitchen that has to be room minded to [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► wash their hands after taking a shit and just touch the door [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► no I know we started watching kitchen nightmares and I don't eat out anymore [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► oh this is terrible but I don't want to show what have you done to this avocados [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► who's the host that job at the gordon ramsay oh that's what I thought [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► yeah you know what Jonas and Amy like to watch that show i I'd choose not to [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► you should not you should i eat the hills it as a hotel hell which is [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► similar with hotels and he seems like he you know he's a pretty smart guy seems [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► like I feel like every episode he seems a good guy who probably wants to do a [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► little less coke that he does he's very very animated [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► um yeah kind of a hair trigger but you know it's what it's formulaic you know [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► comfort food [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► how would we get the kids to Australia would it be by like a ship or how would [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► that work [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► I oh I see some my friend John Rother can I have talked about is how useful it [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► would be like instead in lieu of like middle school you send kids out to work [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► in a national park for like three years because just to confirm i'll get him [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► away from us get out of society and get him somewhere where they can really be [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► exhausted they have to make their own clothes from things that they find while [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► they're working during the day you know it'd be kind of like you want to be like [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► you know hunger games meets lord of the flies which is I guess already kind of [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► lord of the flies but yeah because for everybody be good for that maybe become [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► strong you get a tan [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► you don't have to make a bunk bed maybe what we could do instead that those are [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► all good very good ideas what we could do instead is maybe maybe pick one of [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► the state's here in the US and make it a note no children state and then we'd [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► have subsidies so all the children who are already felt like a smoking area in [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► in restaurants [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► exactly exactly what I'm thinking but we'll do the whole state [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► well we'll have some kind of subsidy system setup so that everybody already [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► has children you know we'll be able to move somewhere nice and then we'll let's [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► just see what happens to the remaining adults in that state how frequently they [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► they get cold or flu and i'll bet that they don't get it at all [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► plus they can afford to retire except for the ones and then and then we did [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► we'd have to have something in place for you know what do you what do you call it [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► when you quarantine quarantine for anybody who leaves and goes to like say [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► disney something like that you have to do i see that have to pass through his [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► own we make sure that they haven't brought any kid germs without yeah [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► that's pretty good i think a lot of people would love that based on the [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► glares that we get when we eat out i think a lot of people would be happy [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► with that state you know maybe there could be a state just for people who you [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► don't want to be around kids or have kids or just even know kids exist and [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► then there could be well I guess technically be a san francisco's noe [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► valley will be a place is dedicated just to people who are way too into their [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► kids you know what I mean it would be like will be like that like the first [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► time you go to like [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► the parents meeting for a school and you're like a little tikes yeah but it's [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► just like I'm really glad I'm not any of the people who are here [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► I don't like the way anybody here is raising their kids [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► Tyler calimary calimary have you done your Mandarin shut up just shut up [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► what percentage of children today are named Skyler Skyler Skyler you got Tyler [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► uh I I think Skylar might have been hot a while back there's a lot of [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► Annabella's we get a lot of what do you what do you get there [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► I've lost track I used to keep track that was it was a it was a real thing [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► mileage on it started school and I've have since lost track when you and the [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► worst part is I could really see me doing this [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► the problem is me like i start i have about an explosion of love laughter [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► before i even have a second to realize how awful it is to laugh at a child's [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► name [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► let's go but I feel so bad [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► anastasia helicopter we're like my daughter has a friend who's little [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► sisters named narrows and I can't decide it's kind of a super cool name [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► it's kind of pretty weird but it's cool like there's that's a cool name is I [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► what is that what I have a game of the houses house game of thrones house of [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► cards yeah exactly it's from that show is that lady with the Dragons no [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► spoilers [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► that's kind of a cool name but now she's got like a Welsh name she's got a spell [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► to people for the rest of your life [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► I don't know you try to see the thing is everybody suffers from this because you [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► try and get ahead of it up this happen to you when we picked our kids name it [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► was not like a super popular name and it seemed like this is one of the John [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► syracuse of things were like you think you're doing this thing outside of the [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► culture and the evolution and like a year later ever your kid has the same [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► name is everybody and look how did that happen well now their name in tropical [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► storms winter storms after after my kid that's it that's so embarrassing you [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► know if they've got like stuff like t-shirts you should buy him I'm sorry [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► about his party that's such a bummer we you know what he likes to do i'll take [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► she's happy as a pig in a poke today what she likes to do she this is like a [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► holiday for her is that she likes to watch when there's a big snowstorm [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► coming [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► and they know it's coming she likes to watch the local news [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► oh yeah that's the local news [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► oh this is my boy this is they've been waiting all year for this day maybe a [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► few years for this day [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► ok there's a local Philadelphia news channel and they had a live report [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► she called me in to see it should be rounded on the TV she's like you have to [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► seize right before we started recording their live report from a hardware store [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► in Virginia Virginia that was rationing shovels and and the salt because some [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► people want to buy 10 of them yeah exactly [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► now that is Panik two shuttles for customer limit what if i break 5 and [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► that's really really odd [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► there's so many odd things about that white wife Virginia why that problem why [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► report it [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► it's just like what with this to face the fact that he rejected to decide that [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► that was the right one to show in philadelphia i don't know i sent you the [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► link here i'm looking at the page i've noticed is your old address may be but [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► essential link there to a forecast so right now you got your help God you got [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► 21 to 28 Fahrenheit today five-day inches of snow starting an evening [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► tomorrow those that tomorrow's the big day right yeah tomorrow's supposed to be [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► the big sister Saturday you get 12 to 18 inches throughout the day and windy [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► until evening is that was some right you're going to you might get like a [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► foot and a half of snow that's what the sand and honestly it what makes me think [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► it's going to be bad is that it's actually it's gone up but usually they [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► give you the worst you know like 48 72 hours in advance they make a dead [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► terrible prediction take to get everybody you know the big to get [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► everybody hysterical want to get to get their attention and then it gets closer [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► and closer and then they dial it down this one it was like they were talking [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► about like eight to ten inches a couple like a day or two ago now they're [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► talking [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► jeez look at that but it would this be what like 17 to 23 inches total god [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► all the things that we've benefited from with cord-cutting one of my favorites is [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► we just don't get local we don't watch it ordinarily but when we do it is an [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► affiliate culture shock [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► yeah it really does and it's not so much that it's changed [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► it's just that it's no longer can seems normal to me and so that the way that [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► they handled stories whether that's like this or whether it's just like it [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► averaged a it you know the stuff that they had decided to highlight and the [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► way that they do it really really stands out in the way that I feel like in in [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► some ways it has not the actual format and style of local TV news like evening [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► you know and nighttime news has not changed that much since I was a kid but [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► it's changed enough in a couple ways I mean there's no I don't know how this [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► started but whenever became the tradition to have like top of the hour [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► news you got news sports and weather and you always put weather is that still the [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► case is not know how they do it oh yeah you put weather lasts because you want [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► people to watch all the really there for us to find out whether we're coat [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► tomorrow what co2 what do you give you they give you just tease in the first 30 [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► seconds [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► that's right yeah exactly what cell there's some surprising weather news [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► that you have gotten you've gotta wait for this every day every single day 365 [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► days a year there is some surprising and important weather related news and cathy [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► is going to tell you about it later in the broadcast coming up right after [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► magnum p.i are deadly fecal bacteria living on your door knob right tell us [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► where after like in the first three minutes of the broadcast Kathy oh come [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► on and all she's gonna say is Jim you just wait until you hear this here [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► fucking book is filled my god this is we better wait that looks like a couple of [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► let's talk about this apartment is exactly but the way the way I feel like [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► it has changes it like as much as it felt very glossy when I was a kid in the [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► nineteen seventies oh my goodness [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► everything that the motion graphics everything so much classier now and it [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► just really seems like they've gotten it down to a science where it's extremely [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► professional chipper people reporting horrible horrible things like horrible [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► dangerous things like I mean and i'm far from the first person to say this but [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► I'm always struck when I watch it that [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► it's so much more about American culture and society makes sense to me when i [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► watch local news is i think like wow if you really did watch this as your one of [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► your primary sources of information about the world I'd be losing my mind to [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► I'd be like I be stocking up on guns and shit snow shovels as well it's like you [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► just you really feel like like people like everybody is getting killed [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► everybody everybody's getting killed or they're dying from something they can't [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► prevent I absolutely i think it's why I've said this to me before like most of [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► our family lives within an hour of Philadelphia overwhelming majority of [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► our family and no nobody ever wants to come see us here and i think i think [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► it's because of TV news because they think if you travel with in the city [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► you're either gonna get shot or the building you're in is going to catch [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► fire stop fucking you're getting one of those are increasingly all-too-common [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► fire stabbings that they have in Philadelphia [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► yeah I don't know gosh I hope it goes okay now like who you like a dark a [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► c-list is down there in the Virginia there get anymore so yeah that's the [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► epicenter [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► yeah that's the epicenter and DC the whole what I call it down there about [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► when sure i'll tell you what i got a point about the TV news before we move [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► off it i gotta the thing that strikes me when I watch it now and I grew up with [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► it and they certainly did the same thing back then but I just accepted it as [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► that's how you do TV news is the way that the correspondence you know there's [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► the anchor person at the desk maybe there's two maybe there's a man and a [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► woman but the others that you know an anchorperson or to a desk in the studio [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► who lead the broadcast and introduced every story and then they go to a [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► correspondent and no matter what the story is no matter no matter what sense [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► it makes the correspondent needs to be out doors somewhere in the in the TV [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► broadcast area and it doesn't matter what the story is [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► they could just be on some random street corner but they help people be reporting [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► the video for example they might be doing something about like a Federal [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► Reserve report for that matter but I've got to be outside somewhere outside of [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► walmart in order to like deliver that and then they and then they absolutely [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► positively must find someone walking by [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► I who will stop and talk to them for 10 seconds about the story [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► ya know site yeah it's there some I think increasingly it is they've got to [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► have at least two or three people and i think that the way one way that become [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► so addicted to watch is there's always something happening there's always [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► another transition coming there's always another thing you're looking forward to [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► happening [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► you're teasing the next thing you throw to the other person the motion graphic [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► goes on this is like that like when i watch CNN to me it feels good demo reel [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► for like a motion graphic company [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► it doesn't feel like there's really anything very substantial to learn you [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► can get it down to three bullets basically what happened [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► CNN does but i think the the style of it is very engrossing to people [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► yeah yeah alright lemme take a break here and tell you about our good friends [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► at back place back places online backup for your mac they have over 150 [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► petabytes of data backed up a few months ago they told me how much a petabyte is [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► and it doesn't even matter it's ridiculous [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► go look it up on Wikipedia if you want but it's ridiculous it's an enormous [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► amount of data that they have backed up they have restored over 10 billion files [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► for their customers now I've been talking about back place forever [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► it could not be more simple here's how it works you download their software to [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► install it on your Mac it your interface to it is just a system preferences panel [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► you don't have to touch anything you just create an account you can create [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► this account for it the the free demo . with without any credit card or anything [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► you create an account and then it just upload all of your stuff to their [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► servers in the cloud and that's it you have to do anything now it might take [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► awhile i actually just added to my to my desktop Mac here at an external storage [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► drive where I keep all my old movies and video files and stuff like that i think [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► it has like a terabyte of data on it and I don't have very good connection took [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► like two weeks for this thing to to to upload the first line the first one took [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► me i think over a month but but after that it's all incremental and it'sit's [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► just itches goes at it took like two weeks but now i've got this whole [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► terabyte drive backed up to the cloud [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► in addition to all my regular stuff which has been backed up on back plays [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► for a long time there is no limit they don't have any limit if you have a4 [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► terabyte drive you [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► just upload that it might take awhile maybe you have fast internet maybe it [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► won't take awhile just have to get going to jump in to make a suggestion here [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► yeah because i love this product i sent you a link right now don't run this test [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► right now but go to school if y'all are out there go to backpage.com / speed [TS]

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00:41:37 ◼   ► throttling you can choose have automatic or manual throttling so if you want to [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► not have it be disruptive to what you're doing you're not local network you can [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► tell it that you can see that automatically you can do it or you could [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► just say open the sucker all the way up because I really want this stuff to get [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► to the cloud the reason i mention this to go to this page and it will run a [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► speedtest on your connection and let you know exactly how much stuff you will be [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► able to upload per day so you can idea how long it will actually take you you [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► won't be wondering like when will this be done [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► they make that easy for you and if you can afford to lose that thing wide open [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► and you don't get thing by your provider by cable town that stuff will just flow [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► straight into the cloud [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► I think the cable tempting me when i was uploading a terabyte drive they could [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► you slow down [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► I i think they did but it's hard for me to tell because the cable towns always [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► doing anyway the back-to-back plays it works great that's it that's it you just [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► install this thing you create an account and then your stuff is there in the [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► cloud and and if you ever need it you can get all of your stuff put on a USB [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► drive and they will you know shipped by UPS or FedEx or something like that if a [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► catastrophe hit but most of the time when people restore stuff from from back [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► plays it's just like one file at a time if you just need that one file and [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► you're away from your computer you can use their iOS app from your phone to get [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► to any of the files that you have backed up and back please get that file and [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► send an email to whoever you want to send it to right there from your phone [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► right there it is such a relief that's the thing I always emphasize with back [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► places when you know that everything you have is backed up in some other way in [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► addition to whatever else you're doing locally in your office you know like [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► with super duper clones or whatever else you might be doing to know that you've [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► got your stuff packed up in the cloud off with somebody you can trust [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► it's such a relief really is i can't recommend them I'll enough where do you [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► go to find out more if you haven't signed up already [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► which I can't believe that there are still listeners to the show who haven't [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► shared on them John shame on them [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► shame on them ah it this is a sponsor who I would like to get rid of i would [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► like to get rid of by having everybody who listens to this show [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► signup and and use them and then back place would say this is great we love [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► the response but now nobody else is signing up because we've everybody's [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► already signed up and that would make me feel great because it would make me feel [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► good to know that everybody out that you guys are backing up to somewhere in the [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► cloud go here get a no credit card required trial go to backblaze dot-com / [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► daring fireball that's all you have two backblaze dot-com / daring fireball I [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► think years ago i think i mispronounced it i think I I said years ago on the [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► back please read i call him black babies or something black plays and they went [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► and registered the domain but it imply that I it's interesting to see if [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► they've still got it [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► no black days maybe black plays some mispronounced sounds kind of dirty and [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► does a little bit [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► oh yeah go to black plays go to black please calm I'll of that do it go go to [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► black lace . com and i've I believe that they resisted because of mr. nch no i [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► didn't show [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► oh yeah totally redirects that's great like this oh my thanks the black glaze [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► for doing the evil that's the evil twin [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► backblaze the ones got the handlebar mustache is identical jet-black a [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► jet-black handlebar mustache and now looking at google snow on the internet [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► and and with the new section lot of pictures of empty grocery shelves and [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► people in line waiting to buy things [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► here's the thing i under that I've said this before in years past I understand [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► the need to stock up on groceries we've done it we've already gone and we've [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► bought some some staples we're going to make sure that we get not just food to [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► eat but maybe you know actually you know meals that we have in the house ready to [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► prepare turn some 1.75 liter size bottles but it still boggles my mind the [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► way that it's there are certain staples that literally sell out like I i'll [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► guarantee you that when we finish recording the show today if i go to get [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► you to the [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► acme down the street that doesn't mean no bread no bread no right because all [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► because you know when you're really really gonna attack my Snow you you're [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► gonna want to have some bread [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► oh my God we're out of bread but ordinarily there's so much bread in that [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► supermarket that there's so much bread that's like it that is ridiculous [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► realize how big that section is until it's been totally cleared out during a [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► snowstorm right and it's when it's cleared out you realize that all the [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► weird bread is going to be all that kind of dark bread only like your older [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► relatives like right place your bread so dark stuff with weird seeds they don't [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► know what weird seeds yeah exactly [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► oh my goodness why don't we make we make light but I you know this well that's [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► probably listen this won't come out until the damage is done right we should [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► probably watch our cats [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► yeah we might come out probably come out tomorrow okay I'm gonna come out later [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► today could come out later today never know what happened uh-huh [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► god I don't know why what else do people buy eggs that's another one to where [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► it's good to have eggs and house i enjoy eggs and I think maybe there's like some [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► brochure that went around in like from the 5276 the same shit everybody buys [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► you buy canned soup you buy bread right you gotta have non-perishable items [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► right you got to have things that you could make over the hot plate that you [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► don't actually own there's all the things that you need but you go into [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► this lizard brain thing where you just click and your brain goes into buy stuff [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► at the grocery store mode and and then of course it's like the stock market [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► just like trading places you go in there and you see everybody freaking out and [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► that makes you freaking that's exactly it is i think that maybe you go in there [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► and you think I want to get bread because i'm supposed to go back and just [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► gonna pick a little bread all i got but you see through the guide next year's [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► take it two loaves of bread and you think I'm better [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► I better get punching some lady in the next because she's touching your butter [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► top ok and then you all of a sudden you're buying three loaves of Wonder [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► Bread I've never bought the people in your life but you feel like if you don't [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► buy these three loaves of Wonder Bread you won't be able to get an hour from [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► now [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► yeah like it seems like you should probably buy crap your stuff than you [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► normally buy because maybe it'll last longer like don't get to Progreso like [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► it's generic brands to make that that'll be better when you go into your [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► theoretical bunker you bring that along because this shows here that have been [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► totally wiped clean of all lettuce so maybe this is a big salad of it maybe [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► you have us like a lock-in and yet you make Caesar salad you guys you don't get [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► snow in san francisco now I get a lot of weird weather but snow is snow it is not [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► something you guys have to do we get our climate it's our clothes on our whether [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► it's our climate our climate is very unconventional and the short version is [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► that as you probably know is that we have because of our proximity to you [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► know what is called the Golden Gate like we San Francisco sits astride a big hole [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► in California so basically the cold air over the ocean is a cold air over the [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► ocean and it's very hot air over the basin like where they grow a lot of the [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► vegetables and that causes some very strange thanks for watching our air is [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► incredibly clean because it's basically being washed every day it's been moved [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► out and in every day but also mean stuff like you know you might start out at a [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► certain temperature in the morning and then it gets colder then it gets warmer [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► for an hour from three to four and then plummets again at night and explain [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► stuff like why we have it's cold in the winter and the summer it's cold here [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► it's warm in october and then it rains for most of em late December January [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► February my favorite evergreen WWDC joke WBC is almost always jianjun is you know [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► hey first-timers it's a it's sunny California don't bother taking a jacket [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► or jeans [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► yeah you know the German tourists it's it's it's just evergreen source of humor [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► the these poor bastards do i'm going to . California it's like yeah it's gonna [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► be like 50 everyday where they used to give out backpacks that was a good for [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► attendees that give out backpacks or or laptop bags some sort and you know [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► embroidered with WWDC and then the two digits of the year and then like 3-4 [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► years ago they started giving out jackets and they've done jackets ever [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► since and I ask somebody at Apple wants is that because so many people you know [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► and you see people wearing them as it because so many people come in there [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► they need them and they get exactly that's exactly it [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► in that people you know attendees come up and they say like I can't do the [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► German accent but the German accent I got an envelope [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► thank you for this jagged I'd be dead without it danke [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► yeah you're up to on come to twin peaks know it's really you should do it [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► sometimes pretty cool there's not that many things i recommend about San [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► Francisco but you drive up in in near the someone you're the geographical [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► center of town basically at the end of market street so market street begins at [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► the embarcadero the ferry building there's a part of market street you're [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► familiar with my Moscow knee right and you go all the way to the end of market [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► street the essentially it and it mostly ends it ends at the castro and you can [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► see this big mountain and so anyway you go up this big hill to get to my [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► neighborhood and twin peaks are these two big mountains in the middle of San [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► Francisco and it's where that big Tower is that the robot looking at our you see [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► but if you go up there man you can it's clear you get this amazing view of the [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► city it's just it's really really beautiful one of the very few actually [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► nice things in San Francisco but of course you go up a mountain in san [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► francisco and it's like it's you know 10 to 20 degrees colder than it was where [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► you were plus it's incredibly windy so you just see these little these ladies [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► up there just like selling sweatshirts they just pick up there at eight in the [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► morning they just sell sweatshirt all day long younger I want to see . view [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► from the Twin Peaks I I feel like I probably had maybe even a majority of [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► the people who listen to my show have been to san francisco at least once I [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► mean I feel like it's you know it's probably an awful lot i know that an [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► awful lot of people who read my stuff and listen to better you know work out [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► there and know if you work anywhere even vaguely Northern California of course [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► you've been to San Francisco but you know there's probably a lot of people [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► who you know just have never had reason to go [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► I I feel like you can hear these stories about how the weather in San Francisco's [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► incredibly isolated you know from the area around it but you just can't be [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► what you walk around within two blocks [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► yeah changed you know basically be a different climate right wires that are [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► very unclear why is it cold here i'm only I just moved I just gone from union [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► square down to you know how the wind blowing from both directions like all of [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► a sudden you're down by where they called AT&T [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► park wherever the giants play yeah sure it's 50 degrees colder i know i know [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► it's bananas right yeah but yeah I hope it all goes i hope it all goes well for [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► you know god bless you i hope i hope its hope it's a it's fine . now did you face [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► I don't wanna make this little show but I mean like do you face much in the way [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► like of damage like when I was in florida and there's a hurricane coming [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► there's all kinds of stuff you gotta do to pay all the way from tape up the [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► windows to like board over the windows like it you have to do any special [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► preparation now you know big snows coming [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► no now except stock up on bread that's right you know there's something you [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► know what we as a family have it very easy and I understand again this is just [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► it's just like kids getting sick if you have a job or you've got it [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► it's important that you be there it's snowstorm is a enormous pain in the ass [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► I and in fact that it's coming on a weekend could be good news for a lot of [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► people but there's still some people who have jobs that they're it's essential [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► that they be there huge pain in the ass [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► elbow I guess where my office is it's right downstairs so the fact that we can [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► easily and and work wise you know a snowstorm is often indistinguishable [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► from a normal day for us it's actually kind of nice here you're very you're [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► very fortunate and any other generation the idea of having your bedroom your [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► office and your bar be essentially the same room you know that's powerful right [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► you got everything you need right there [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► you know like you like your own personal food court everything you need is right [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► there now I like it and and sometimes it really it's just so nice in the city to [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► have the big snow come and have very few cars on the road and it's you can go out [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► right before the snow turns all gray and black from the cars that eventually get [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► back on the road [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► everything looks beautiful and it's quiet it is quiet in a way that you [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► can't believe that the city could ever be this quiet because in addition to the [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► fact that there's no or very few cars on the road the snow is like what would you [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► call it a sound dampening soft substance absorbs its it's hard to even describe [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► that sound but it's even more live in the suburbs in ohio it's it's a very [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► special winter feeling to go outside it's very it's very crisp it's very [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► quiet and it's very still [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► it just feels like everything has slowed down yeah i remember a couple years ago [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► it's very vivid in my mind is Michael op my friend Michael op of brands and [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► repose was in town for a conference of some sort or somebody paid him first [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► because like a paid speaking I don't know there's a conference or corporate [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► thing but he was in town and a huge snowstorm hit one of these you know at [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► least a foot of snow type things and we went out to dinner just the two of us [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► and there was nobody on the street and you know steak house was open and there [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► was only like one other table that was taken only like two or three waiters are [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► on shift and we asked the waiter you know like it was just like a huge [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► painting ask you like I live in the city what else am I gonna do tonight I don't [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► care [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► so it was like empty steakhouse super-quiet great meal and I feel like [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► it's because I whoever was in the kitchen it was like well what are we you [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► know we weren't cooking like three things might as well make it perfect [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► great meal and then we just went out and just walked back to his hotel and then I [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► walked home and it was it was like we were the only two people in the whole [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► city of Philadelphia it will amazing it was like you can't make that up [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► oh that's such a great feeling yeah you know I have something I Syracuse and I [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► have ended up talking about on the show that we do is I am I'm always interested [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► in what I would call it seemed exposing events right and like the kinds of [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► things where you don't realize how fragile something is until some [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► complexity or difficulties introduced and that's when the scenes get exposed [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► and that's the thing I feel bad about what the city is if you look at sea like [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► sexy like Atlanta which is already so on the edge in terms of you know I think it [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► has something like them you know in the aggregate the most commuted miles per [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► day without question yeah there was there was a New Yorker story about a few [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► years ago it's ridiculous people doing its it's actually it's actually [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► shockingly bad in its scale and the amount of time right i mean it's pretty [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► bad must feel to me like an hour or something like that [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► yeah is that right now it's something like that I ask something like that but [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► then you introduce rain or if God forbid you introduce no to that were even the [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► smallest bit of snow like they don't there's not many accommodations that the [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► city of Atlanta can make for snow and that's the part where it starts to feel [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► like they sit like this is the apocalypse you know we think about so [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► many places like what happens in California when it rains a lot [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► it happens everywhere like the first time it rains after it hasn't rained for [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► a long time [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► there's all this oil and [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► you know various detris like just sitting there on the streets and so once [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► you start you know zooming around on their that water basically i don't know [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► i'm not a scientist but like that makes the road is very slippery or this the [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► drains you know the ground can absorb all the water because it's been so dry [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► it's just I don't know I that's why I always brace for the first big snow the [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► first big you know rainstorms like will you know can we take I was talking to [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► dan frommer about it on this show [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► who is that less that last time so we have to say about to end in vegas when [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► it rains that the cars are terrible people don't know how to drive in a [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► couple of vegas resident said it's you know in addition to the fact that the [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► people here don't really know how to drive with wet roads it really is [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► actually worse than typical wet roads because we gets a little rain that there [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► is like a coating of oil on it on that on that what you call it the tarmac for [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► somebody who claims to like CES wow he he quickly I feel like I I every [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► impulsive ever had to go to see yes i'm really glad i didn't listen [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► that sounds so awful i think i'm going to eat you and I should go together eat [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► yourself lucky you're committed for next you think we are going to do some [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► reporting their I think we should i think that i think that within a couple [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► of weeks i'll just file that away and do heavy do another show next year whereas [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► say I'll go next [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► well knowing your record with this out all make you this this mostly promise [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► I'll go if you go but I don't think you're gonna go so I'm not worried i [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► don't want to go [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► oh my goodness and then that description of like the shuttle buses like how long [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► it took to go somewhere in a shuttle bus like I walk everywhere in las vegas i [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► can't imagine driving right if it's anywhere on this trip you walk there [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► I mean what's the worst thing that happens you you get an alcoholic [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► beverage and walk it's not hard but like oh my god and imagine all those people [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► who are like us being there at the same time how miserable that would be no I [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► that's part of it [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► I remember one time I was in Vegas and it was just by coincidence at the end of [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► some massive convention you know I don't even know what it was but it was must [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► have been like CES sighs dirty clothes they're about and [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► I we write waiting for a cab somewhere and it was like taking forever and when [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► i asked will just walk and then it somehow came up that like we we heard it [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► that they said that the at the venetian that there was a 33 hour wait for cabs a [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► three-hour wait for camp because it was the end of this massive convention and [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► everybody here pouring yeah but think about that like who leaves for the [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► airport three hours in advance nobody [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► so in other words when they tell you it's a three-hour wait to get to the [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► airport that means you're missing you're missing your flight and that's all [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► that's the thing you can't walk you can't walk know that neither thing is [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► that airport is not that big it now [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► in other words it could it doesn't have that much tolerance for it needing to [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► expand and right but so it like there are times when in vegas is you know as [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► much as they can support truly massive conventions conferences we're going to [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► call it there are times when it still is [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► you know ten pounds of shit in a five-pound bag oh well you know it's [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► interesting if you think about you know I don't know it is interesting kind of a [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► planned community and [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► planned community and [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► ways because there seems to be even as much as Las Vegas has pivoted toward [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► more or less family-friendly or more upward downscale there still may be [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► still mostly been marching in the same direction with las vegas since what the [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► forties right i mean that the basic idea of what Las Vegas is for has not changed [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► that much and I have to imagine like the infrastructure to support that it mainly [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► needs to grow and get bigger but doesn't need to change that much [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► we're always going to need prime rib shrimp liquor and chips [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► well I part of this is suddenly going to need like like you know I guess you know [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► you get live animals occasionally like a white tiger dies you get a fresh one but [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► like other than that I mean it's gotta be a pretty steady supply train for [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► making that place run and I bet it's pretty easily disrupted oil [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► part of the problem is that they they have a monorail that goes up and down [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► the strip but it's terrible and dan was saying on the show that one . it was [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► like an act however long waiting on the morrow but how the monorail is is [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► terribly terribly located it's like way behind this trip I remember the first [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► time I tried to take it was like this is great we'll get out of these expensive [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► cab rides will take the monorail down and then it there like these signs like [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► monorail this way and you start you go through the casino and they're like you [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► know keep looking for signs and say where the monorail is and it's going [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► keep going keep going keep going [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► now you're going through the employee parking lot and it's monorail this way [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► and you're like wait a minute [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► monorail and then it you still get to get there and find out it's an hour wait [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► it's really nice but really I mean the big but one of the big problems in vegas [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► is that they really are in desperate need of some public transportation just [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► and it wouldn't be that complicated really just up and down the strip and [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► they don't have it [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► I've often thought what do you do if you're you're staying at the venetian [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► your conference is over you have a three o'clock flight and it's one in the [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► afternoon and you think you're doing a responsible thing by leaving two hours [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► it's not far if you want your own account it's like as soon as you pull up [TS]

01:01:58 ◼   ► from the airport you can already see the strip [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► yeah it feels very very close like anything in the desert it's kind of [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► difficult to tell how far away something is traffic permitting it's usually a 10 [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► or 15-minute cab ride so it's two hours in advance and then they tell you it's [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► going to be three hours until you [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► get a cab what do you do what do you do you know in another time you know even [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► probably 20 years ago I would say you call the airline and try to reschedule [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► it and pay what used to be I'm gonna say a $75 fee something like that it used to [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► be that flights were more expensive but you could do more with them i think [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► nowadays almost everybody buys and pull this out of my ass but you know like [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► nowadays almost everybody buys refundable and non-refundable to write [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► you always buy the least expensive thing but like you know certainly back when my [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► dad was flying back when there were three different classes on every plane [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► and you know you'd they were costly but you could do a lot more with them I feel [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► like even 20 years ago most airlines for 7,500 bucks you can change your flight [TS]

01:02:54 ◼   ► I don't know what you do in that case I because it's sort of a can't get there [TS]

01:02:57 ◼   ► from here situation where you're going to be going to hire hire a local car I [TS]

01:03:00 ◼   ► mean one of the locals the local third that local the modern-day thing the [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► thing that you can do now is that you have a cellphone or maybe you can start [TS]

01:03:08 ◼   ► stabbing your finger at your airline's website and see if there's something you [TS]

01:03:12 ◼   ► can do right there right now you know you could just do it right now the other [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► thing I thought you could do is if you're in that situation is take your [TS]

01:03:18 ◼   ► suitcase or suitcases and schlep them not to the airport but maybe see if you [TS]

01:03:23 ◼   ► can walk across the street to a different hotel and see if you can get a [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► cab there but my thought would be wait if there's a big line here [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► yeah there's probably going to be a big line and every hotel that is nearby [TS]

01:03:35 ◼   ► because the nearby ones that the same ones that the same people have been that [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► yeah that's that's one of those things I'm so interested in these sorts of [TS]

01:03:41 ◼   ► things something that feels like cause but it's actually have an effect like in [TS]

01:03:45 ◼   ► that instance the fact that there's a lineup for cabs is not the source of the [TS]

01:03:49 ◼   ► problem is the result of the problem you know what I mean right it could just be [TS]

01:03:52 ◼   ► that everybody's trying to get a cab right now so let's see here you stay at [TS]

01:03:57 ◼   ► the wynn is that right now usually I'm just trying to look here so can I can't [TS]

01:04:02 ◼   ► look at that [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► so you can see like mandalay bay and Luxor practically from the airport [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► yeah yeah it looks so close to the mob museum [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► wow so [TS]

01:04:17 ◼   ► sneezes you made coffee might have caught something from here and this [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► I you know what I was gonna say anything but I was feeling fine i got on this [TS]

01:04:24 ◼   ► call I even wash my hands I win-loss wynn las vegas is that what you stay at [TS]

01:04:31 ◼   ► yeah that's where I usually stick ok then you got the Palazzo the venetian [TS]

01:04:34 ◼   ► the mirage treasure island there's the Flamingo ok that's that big corner so [TS]

01:04:40 ◼   ► that's the corner las vegas and flamingo is that big corner right every time my [TS]

01:04:44 ◼   ► daughter took her first steps at the bellagio i think i told you that story I [TS]

01:04:50 ◼   ► don't know you did [TS]

01:04:51 ◼   ► yeah i was doing a talk to the senior management at the founder of circus Olay [TS]

01:04:56 ◼   ► is very purple house in Las Vegas [TS]

01:04:59 ◼   ► well I got a call from my wife that in our room at the bellagio are exactly one [TS]

01:05:04 ◼   ► year old daughter had taken her first step by the way that you mention it was [TS]

01:05:07 ◼   ► her first birthday cover your nose honey we have to get through the good to get [TS]

01:05:13 ◼   ► to our room feel like depending on our life turns out that good it's gonna be [TS]

01:05:18 ◼   ► an amusing anecdote how many therapists will have to hear that story of writers [TS]

01:05:23 ◼   ► did you gonna be a very amusing anecdote like wow that's quite a story or it's [TS]

01:05:30 ◼   ► going to be well nothing more David that it all started out of this is so simple [TS]

01:05:37 ◼   ► it seemed like such a joke [TS]

01:05:38 ◼   ► what else is going on [TS]

01:05:43 ◼   ► well I could take I could take another break and think it's all about something [TS]

01:05:46 ◼   ► like John all get it all get a Seltzer wash my hands [TS]

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01:06:07 ◼   ► here's something you could take off your hands if you're in an IT department in [TS]

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01:06:57 ◼   ► same account but because of the mail goes through mail routes filters first [TS]

01:07:01 ◼   ► before it gets to your servers all the spam is gone all this email with junk [TS]

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01:07:18 ◼   ► I mean this stuff is as accurate of a spam filtering as I've ever seen and you [TS]

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01:07:29 ◼   ► to you or to any of the users on the domain with like hey here's the you know [TS]

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01:08:52 ◼   ► as spam and viruses I've heard some more than one success story actually they [TS]

01:08:58 ◼   ► imagined was just talking about this but for a lot of people say that's where [TS]

01:09:00 ◼   ► they've had a domain where what 10 years ago even 10 years ago they were like you [TS]

01:09:05 ◼   ► know what this one is out there like my there's just too much spam at every [TS]

01:09:11 ◼   ► conceivable user at this I will never get this back you know god bless it [TS]

01:09:14 ◼   ► gmail couldn't help this and you're done and I've heard people go in and [TS]

01:09:18 ◼   ► attachment route to that domain and like it's like a miracle [TS]

01:09:22 ◼   ► it's like something from an infomercial we're actually that suddenly they've got [TS]

01:09:25 ◼   ► that domain back it's so good at getting spam with a scalpel that you get your [TS]

01:09:29 ◼   ► own domain back and like what more can you say I used to talk about the there's [TS]

01:09:34 ◼   ► some of the techniques that male uses that I feel like that it's like so it's [TS]

01:09:39 ◼   ► not even worth it anymore like this it's their their problem to worry about the [TS]

01:09:43 ◼   ► details of how they do it but it is it's amazing [TS]

01:09:45 ◼   ► surgical is a good way to describe it yeah yeah you know you don't hear about [TS]

01:09:49 ◼   ► the impingement on the show as much as you used to [TS]

01:09:51 ◼   ► it's alright yeah this is perfect on this particular show ya the talk show [TS]

01:09:55 ◼   ► you mean like for example like when he is the co-host exactly [TS]

01:09:59 ◼   ► well technically this is this is mark 3 of how do you refer to first of all for [TS]

01:10:04 ◼   ► anybody's listening and it's the talk show right right we should be clear [TS]

01:10:08 ◼   ► about that right is clearly marked three [TS]

01:10:12 ◼   ► this is mark 3 yeah who do you think about the future talk show what mark for [TS]

01:10:16 ◼   ► would look like would you bring Jonas on maybe it's got the same show that the [TS]

01:10:23 ◼   ► top with the biggest change in the talkshow well obviously when you you and [TS]

01:10:27 ◼   ► we're doing it together anymore was quite different but like you know I like [TS]

01:10:31 ◼   ► say for example only sandwich loved the original version of the talk show that [TS]

01:10:34 ◼   ► you two did I could never get into it I could never get into it was when you and [TS]

01:10:38 ◼   ► dad were doing it that I really liked it but uh yeah yeah what do you like when [TS]

01:10:43 ◼   ► you think about that that must be pretty weird that's a lot of change over time [TS]

01:10:46 ◼   ► I it does at it's weird for me because it never it [TS]

01:10:51 ◼   ► it creeped up on me as it as a serious part of my I don't we called business [TS]

01:10:58 ◼   ► income you know it's you know your job [TS]

01:11:01 ◼   ► yeah it's pretty job now it always seemed like I was a guy who rode website [TS]

01:11:05 ◼   ► or i would even at the point when like the first incarnation where the dates on [TS]

01:11:09 ◼   ► that first incarnation you can still see it [TS]

01:11:12 ◼   ► what is that the talkshow dotnet so those are the first I said time for a [TS]

01:11:22 ◼   ► while [TS]

01:11:23 ◼   ► look at that no way 2007's that can make the 2007 and when the hell did i start [TS]

01:11:30 ◼   ► doing this shit full-time 2006 so it's you know it was close to it was within a [TS]

01:11:37 ◼   ► year of $YEAR when i started doing daring fireball full time I I always in [TS]

01:11:43 ◼   ► a daring fireball was a career and doing the podcast was you know how something [TS]

01:11:49 ◼   ► you could do on the side and something that the nature of writing a blog as a [TS]

01:11:54 ◼   ► full-time job that I would easily have time to fit in [TS]

01:11:58 ◼   ► look at the episode length 34 minutes 29 minutes or 30 minute 37 minutes 36 [TS]

01:12:06 ◼   ► minutes 31 but some of them are over an hour but most of them are like around [TS]

01:12:10 ◼   ► under 45 years the episode 8 is 19 minutes and 28 seconds my god we spent [TS]

01:12:18 ◼   ► that on white bread today a half-size episode with our predictions for the [TS]

01:12:22 ◼   ► upcoming apple announcement later today [TS]

01:12:24 ◼   ► wow that's amazing [TS]

01:12:30 ◼   ► I'm travel you know what and it just snuck up over time that it is podcasting [TS]

01:12:38 ◼   ► I mean you know this you can you do a couple shows its you know is it doing a [TS]

01:12:45 ◼   ► podcast in two thousand even through at the end of the run of this first one [TS]

01:12:49 ◼   ► which was what the last episode was 29 [TS]

01:12:52 ◼   ► oktober 2009 that was ahead of the time of [TS]

01:12:57 ◼   ► for podcast there just weren't enough people say I'd say even that . still I [TS]

01:13:01 ◼   ► mean it still feels like there's an article every month or so that's [TS]

01:13:07 ◼   ► essentially about the hell podcasts are finally becoming a thing you know it's [TS]

01:13:11 ◼   ► become I mean it's a tired bit for those of us it's even if it's even at a bit as [TS]

01:13:16 ◼   ► a bit at this point to joke about this because it's been 45 for what feels like [TS]

01:13:20 ◼   ► five years now everybody has been doing podcasts in mid-2000 is saying oh that's [TS]

01:13:25 ◼   ► great sounds like that's another you know it's a meta joke because it's like [TS]

01:13:30 ◼   ► once again someone says oh you know if you heard about this thing serial [TS]

01:13:32 ◼   ► podcast which are did like this and this and this are going to really really be a [TS]

01:13:36 ◼   ► thing and oh you know in the mid roll put that another press release so [TS]

01:13:40 ◼   ► somebody has an article about it and it's you know I don't have that much [TS]

01:13:44 ◼   ► doesn't frustrate me that much except that it is it is funny that frustrates [TS]

01:13:48 ◼   ► other people much more than it does me because i think it is this is still so [TS]

01:13:52 ◼   ► very much the earliest of days [TS]

01:13:55 ◼   ► I mean this to me is like as something like Ernie Kovacs was the TV or like you [TS]

01:13:59 ◼   ► may never see another Ernie Kovacs again because our climax could only have been [TS]

01:14:02 ◼   ► any Kovacs at that time you know or or for that matter I mean you think about [TS]

01:14:06 ◼   ► any of those weird shows that were on the forties before they really knew what [TS]

01:14:10 ◼   ► he was going to be don't go back even further what was the movie what movie [TS]

01:14:13 ◼   ► was a smoothly a camera sitting still in filming a bunch of people performing a [TS]

01:14:18 ◼   ► play without sound right I mean right it was you know I I don't know if he gets [TS]

01:14:23 ◼   ► the appropriate amount of credit but somebody like DW Griffith not only had [TS]

01:14:26 ◼   ► much more ambition and how you can tell a story with film but what you could do [TS]

01:14:30 ◼   ► with the camera as its own artifice whereas its own you know tool and then [TS]

01:14:34 ◼   ► introducing like you know doing more than you know having things like clothes [TS]

01:14:37 ◼   ► stops and then getting into things like editing the dimensions of editing that [TS]

01:14:40 ◼   ► we just take for granted today but there was probably 10 or 15 years of [TS]

01:14:44 ◼   ► filmmaking that went on where people were just walking around going I guess [TS]

01:14:47 ◼   ► this is a movie so we think about those and we might have nostalgia for watching [TS]

01:14:52 ◼   ► the sneeze or the kiss or something like that but you know it didn't take 15-20 [TS]

01:14:57 ◼   ► years before we go oh no there really is a vocabulary you know there's a hundred [TS]

01:15:01 ◼   ► eighty degree rule eventually there's all these different things of [TS]

01:15:03 ◼   ► conventions of understanding how [TS]

01:15:05 ◼   ► you know splice time and tell a story with fill in i think it's really early [TS]

01:15:09 ◼   ► days for podcast it's not anything as sexy or sophisticated his film but i [TS]

01:15:13 ◼   ► think it's still very early days [TS]

01:15:15 ◼   ► well that their I've it's the only part of my racket that's still growing like [TS]

01:15:21 ◼   ► the website does not you know any of the measurements that I can't use you know [TS]

01:15:25 ◼   ► RSS subscribers or page views or whatever it peaked a while ago i think i [TS]

01:15:30 ◼   ► was talking about figure was talking about you're talking with dan last week [TS]

01:15:33 ◼   ► yeah about how you know once google reader went away [TS]

01:15:37 ◼   ► actually the numbers will all went down and never really recovered and I don't [TS]

01:15:40 ◼   ► again i don't think that who knows it like how much like this not just so that [TS]

01:15:45 ◼   ► that was the thing but there was probably as like there's a variety of [TS]

01:15:48 ◼   ► different things coming together to create a certain zeitgeist around that [TS]

01:15:51 ◼   ► time right and it broke out including the ascendance of I have to be honest [TS]

01:15:55 ◼   ► with you I told people on Twitter have been mentioning a talk we did at South [TS]

01:16:00 ◼   ► by Southwest 2009 and i'll go back and listen to it once a year or so and I I'm [TS]

01:16:04 ◼   ► still proud of it as something that we did and i love that people still like [TS]

01:16:08 ◼   ► listening to it and so that's 2009 but you know even then we're talking about [TS]

01:16:13 ◼   ► you know the rise of things like Gawker or the rise of things like techcrunch [TS]

01:16:18 ◼   ► even the techcrunch at that point is what four years old five years old but [TS]

01:16:21 ◼   ► like you know you think about like at that point facebook was big but facebook [TS]

01:16:25 ◼   ► was not what Facebook is today [TS]

01:16:26 ◼   ► no you know it I know it wasn't so much that was still the time when we were [TS]

01:16:30 ◼   ► still feeling a little miffed about how much people got their news from [TS]

01:16:34 ◼   ► aggregation sites rather than the sources that were writing them which now [TS]

01:16:37 ◼   ► today seems relatively cool . in comparison facebook didn't even have [TS]

01:16:42 ◼   ► their IPO until $MONTH 2012 which seems crazy because we just talked about them [TS]

01:16:48 ◼   ► is like a pillar of the tech industry you know well we weren't more than a few [TS]

01:16:53 ◼   ► years off of myspace and kind of being the big thing I mean it'sit's that's a [TS]

01:16:57 ◼   ► throwaway line now but a talk ID itself myself with South by Southwest year [TS]

01:17:02 ◼   ► before that I made mention of myspace i mentioned myspace in the inbox zero talk [TS]

01:17:09 ◼   ► from 2006 so you know that seemed like the unvanquished able big player for a [TS]

01:17:16 ◼   ► long time which not everybody looks at laughs [TS]

01:17:18 ◼   ► but like no no honestly that myspace really was the thing for a long time and [TS]

01:17:24 ◼   ► it just seemed like Facebook was gonna be a have nicer typography and be [TS]

01:17:28 ◼   ► tonight you know whatever i'm not going to be like a dork about it but Facebook [TS]

01:17:32 ◼   ► seemed like the next myspace it didn't seem I i I'm pretty impressed with how [TS]

01:17:35 ◼   ► much it has stuck around and grown now in that amount of time [TS]

01:17:39 ◼   ► yeah I wouldn't predict it but for you so with your where you are with daring [TS]

01:17:43 ◼   ► fireball is probably little bit inside baseball but the is it that has the size [TS]

01:17:50 ◼   ► of your slice stayed the same and the pie has gotten smaller [TS]

01:17:57 ◼   ► I don't know be my god I you still seem like very influential in the same [TS]

01:18:00 ◼   ► circles your influential and five years ago but maybe the smaller pie [TS]

01:18:04 ◼   ► yeah i think it's something like that you know and i think that if you pulled [TS]

01:18:09 ◼   ► people and said who's influential writing about Apple I prob I probably do [TS]

01:18:13 ◼   ► better now than I did then but I don't have I have fewer pageviews per month [TS]

01:18:18 ◼   ► than I did then like i don't and i think it is always on our everybody everybody [TS]

01:18:23 ◼   ► does write it and it's you know it's the it fits very well with my you know [TS]

01:18:28 ◼   ► career-long argument that page views are too terrible way to measure anything [TS]

01:18:34 ◼   ► other than how busy your your your version of apache is who I don't know [TS]

01:18:40 ◼   ► people still use apache i use apache imagine if she don't you don't even you [TS]

01:18:46 ◼   ► don't even know if a patch is out but I think about something like and again you [TS]

01:18:50 ◼   ► know you guys got to give me a little bit of past don't follow all this stuff [TS]

01:18:53 ◼   ► super carefully every your site i read six colors I read I more in Macworld i'm [TS]

01:18:58 ◼   ► not a mac and apple follower of a user i'm a super user but i'm not i don't [TS]

01:19:04 ◼   ► follow the business but with that said I mean could you have guessed what four [TS]

01:19:09 ◼   ► years ago that mark Gurman would have risen in a sentence the way that he has [TS]

01:19:14 ◼   ► not that still feels like a story that's not done being told you oh yeah [TS]

01:19:17 ◼   ► definitely I mean I've noticed i feel like i've noticed a change in how you [TS]

01:19:20 ◼   ► talk or think about him you have been you have on the show one time at least [TS]

01:19:24 ◼   ► once maybe twice i think was twenty least once but it wasn't there a time [TS]

01:19:28 ◼   ► when you will put this way I i would love all of those idiots into the [TS]

01:19:32 ◼   ► same group of like who cares why are you talking about rumors stuff but he has [TS]

01:19:36 ◼   ► been it seems to me unique in his ability to get to the right sources that [TS]

01:19:42 ◼   ► he is true he is he doesn't know about stuff for other people and he finds a [TS]

01:19:47 ◼   ► way to make it into a story in a way that a lot of other folks haven't where [TS]

01:19:51 ◼   ► it doesn't really just feel like a blown-up forum site about rumors you [TS]

01:19:54 ◼   ► know what I mean I think he's he's changed that particular game a little [TS]

01:19:57 ◼   ► bit [TS]

01:19:58 ◼   ► oh definitely i was about that so I've had him on twice i had him on last Jesus [TS]

01:20:02 ◼   ► a pretty smart guy and then I had him when it when the show with this this [TS]

01:20:05 ◼   ► incarnation and show is hosted over it mule he was on episode 79 in 2014 [TS]

01:20:14 ◼   ► yeah you know and I died [TS]

01:20:17 ◼   ► he's the most successful rumor Apple rumor reporter ever in my opinion of [TS]

01:20:24 ◼   ► just in terms that it seems like a like a gig that burns people out but also [TS]

01:20:29 ◼   ► just the fact that he seems to be he gets good information [TS]

01:20:33 ◼   ► what seems like a lot more often than other people and they don't care whether [TS]

01:20:36 ◼   ► it's the most popular sites just read the accuracy of what he's gotten right [TS]

01:20:40 ◼   ► not just by throwing a million darts at the board by saying this this this and [TS]

01:20:43 ◼   ► this and most of that's true i think it would be hard to argue that he's been [TS]

01:20:47 ◼   ► the most successful yeah there's a track record [TS]

01:20:49 ◼   ► yeah he's definitely not at darts at the board type of person you know he did you [TS]

01:20:55 ◼   ► know which is it which is to say that what if you predict anything and [TS]

01:20:58 ◼   ► everything and then you know one of them is bound to hit and then you're you're [TS]

01:21:03 ◼   ► good [TS]

01:21:04 ◼   ► ever hear about this are somebody told me about that angle her friend Paul [TS]

01:21:08 ◼   ► Colossus told me about this a couple weeks ago that i guess i have to put in [TS]

01:21:12 ◼   ► the show notes and find it but don't know the last soccer world cup which I [TS]

01:21:17 ◼   ► guess was what like two years ago somebody what they did is they started [TS]

01:21:24 ◼   ► pointing to these tweets from this account that was called like fifa fifa [TS]

01:21:32 ◼   ► corruption fifa is the world soccer organization right that had a Sepp [TS]

01:21:38 ◼   ► Blatter yeah well so so these tweets had all the scores in advance [TS]

01:21:45 ◼   ► the game right right fine it was like Germany Germany's germany will be sweden [TS]

01:21:50 ◼   ► 221 and you know so-and-so kicks and kicks a goal late you know extra time to [TS]

01:21:56 ◼   ► to as the you know to break the 1-1 tie and that it would the timestamp on the [TS]

01:22:01 ◼   ► tweet is before the game and hair that's exactly what happened and it went super [TS]

01:22:07 ◼   ► viral it was like holy shit this guy whoever this anonymous person treating [TS]

01:22:11 ◼   ► these things in is it all of his tweets are exactly right and they're all you [TS]

01:22:16 ◼   ► know they've all got the scores right so it's obviously these matches are all [TS]

01:22:21 ◼   ► fixed but what the heck i did was brilliant [TS]

01:22:24 ◼   ► was he tweeted like hundreds and hundreds of tweets with all sorts of and [TS]

01:22:28 ◼   ► and soccer scores aren't that hard to to get it's not gonna be like a hundred and [TS]

01:22:33 ◼   ► thirty five to seven right it's like you know it's going to be three two one nil [TS]

01:22:38 ◼   ► so he tweeted hundreds and hundreds of these tweets with these possible things [TS]

01:22:41 ◼   ► very plausible things that would happen and hadn't hadn't publicized the twitter [TS]

01:22:46 ◼   ► account at all then went and deleted all the ones that didn't come true [TS]

01:22:50 ◼   ► leaving only the ones that happened and then started publicizing the twitter [TS]

01:22:56 ◼   ► account but that's the way a lot of rumor blogging works and government [TS]

01:23:00 ◼   ► definitely isn't that style I mean that you can't go back and delete it but did [TS]

01:23:03 ◼   ► you know certainly these the financial analyst and stuff like that they do it [TS]

01:23:07 ◼   ► all the time they'll say you know ten different things nine of them are [TS]

01:23:09 ◼   ► ridiculous but one of them hit and then they just point to the one that hit and [TS]

01:23:13 ◼   ► they're like see ya that's so interesting when you think of it that [TS]

01:23:16 ◼   ► way and it's their reputations that end up getting made that it's almost like [TS]

01:23:22 ◼   ► you know imagine if you had to sit down in a Google spreadsheet and you know but [TS]

01:23:26 ◼   ► remember there's a website for a while where you can make a bad about anything [TS]

01:23:28 ◼   ► could happen in the future and now you know i think it was called but the idea [TS]

01:23:32 ◼   ► is the artfulness is coming up with what actually constitutes the bet [TS]

01:23:35 ◼   ► like you can't say like Oh computers will get faster within the next year [TS]

01:23:38 ◼   ► like okay thanks that doesn't really help us get to have something very [TS]

01:23:40 ◼   ► specific and quantifiable if you were if you were and ICU would never be this [TS]

01:23:45 ◼   ► person if you're a rumormonger but like if you have to like make that say that [TS]

01:23:50 ◼   ► by this date the following kind of thing will happen my level of certainty is [TS]

01:23:53 ◼   ► this much and basically number of chips are put on the table is this much right [TS]

01:23:57 ◼   ► you're saying like I [TS]

01:23:59 ◼   ► I'm like I'm give this and i'm going to give this a you know five out of 10 on [TS]

01:24:03 ◼   ► how much I pretty sure it's gonna happen and i'm gonna bet this many chips that [TS]

01:24:06 ◼   ► would happen so you sort of like odds you know it'll be really interesting to [TS]

01:24:10 ◼   ► go back over somebody's career and be able to look at those i bet it would be [TS]

01:24:13 ◼   ► i bet it would be especially for some of these dangling analysts can imagine what [TS]

01:24:17 ◼   ► that would be like not just your trip Chowdhry types but like just any of [TS]

01:24:20 ◼   ► these folks out there who have some kind of speculative half reckon about about [TS]

01:24:25 ◼   ► something that might happen [TS]

01:24:26 ◼   ► it's like doing a cold reading you know like you know you walk up to anybody who [TS]

01:24:31 ◼   ► can speak English and say do you have an uneasy feeling about an older man in [TS]

01:24:36 ◼   ► your life right now it's like almost everybody does that would be kind of [TS]

01:24:39 ◼   ► like going to you sometimes feel like you might be slightly more intelligent [TS]

01:24:43 ◼   ► than a lot of people around you like oh yeah actually I do [TS]

01:24:46 ◼   ► interesting interesting interest have you had a loss in your life unless it [TS]

01:24:51 ◼   ► yeah that's the kind of thing where it really feels like a cold reading to just [TS]

01:24:55 ◼   ► some of this stuff you know Apple is going to make a bigger phone app was [TS]

01:25:00 ◼   ► going to make a smaller phone [TS]

01:25:01 ◼   ► well congratulations you just cover the entire board like thanks that's great [TS]

01:25:05 ◼   ► that's really useful you know what this reminds me of a very specific rumor that [TS]

01:25:09 ◼   ► is reading of somewhat recent super widespread yeah and I wanted to bring it [TS]

01:25:15 ◼   ► up with you edges that I didn't write it down and kept in my head but now I i [TS]

01:25:19 ◼   ► remember otherwise I would have forgotten it [TS]

01:25:21 ◼   ► i I'm fascinated by this rumor that the next iPhone is going to get rid of the [TS]

01:25:26 ◼   ► headphone jack and not you not particularly because of the practical [TS]

01:25:31 ◼   ► consequences of living with an iphone that doesn't have a standard head cook [TS]

01:25:34 ◼   ► phone jack but the way that tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands [TS]

01:25:40 ◼   ► of people have reacted to the news [TS]

01:25:42 ◼   ► right there's a petition that somebody put together that apparently everybody [TS]

01:25:47 ◼   ► knows how effective online petitions are especially for things that haven't been [TS]

01:25:50 ◼   ► announced as a reality right it's like it's like being mad about like a [TS]

01:25:55 ◼   ► specular change of wardrobe by the cartoon character tinkerbell it's like [TS]

01:25:59 ◼   ► well you know the funny thing we actually thought about but sure he was [TS]

01:26:03 ◼   ► your position [TS]

01:26:04 ◼   ► so what are people saying what is what is what is the nature of their demanded [TS]

01:26:07 ◼   ► that they not get rid of the audio jack or what specific beef value to me that's [TS]

01:26:13 ◼   ► what's interesting is like the ramifications to get off their butt like [TS]

01:26:16 ◼   ► the ramifications of this are extremely interesting because there are a lot of [TS]

01:26:20 ◼   ► things that this will screw up a lot of things that will allow and just a whole [TS]

01:26:23 ◼   ► bunch of stuff that will change and it all comes down to these little [TS]

01:26:26 ◼   ► implementation details to like what this means in the near term and i find that [TS]

01:26:30 ◼   ► incredibly fascinating here it is it's a there's an online had our online [TS]

01:26:35 ◼   ► petition that has 290 1848 signees and their goal is 300 thousand so they're [TS]

01:26:42 ◼   ► actually a little short of their goal i'll send you the link [TS]

01:26:48 ◼   ► yeah i'll just read it to you though it's this is the way the petition reads [TS]

01:26:53 ◼   ► I think it's very I think the way 3 i'm gonna tell you i try to use my voice to [TS]

01:27:01 ◼   ► put the bold there's a lot of bulb [TS]

01:27:05 ◼   ► oh my goodness there is our apples purple is about maybe you should read it [TS]

01:27:10 ◼   ► maybe you should read it and so apples about to rip off every one of its [TS]

01:27:15 ◼   ► customers are dude there [TS]

01:27:17 ◼   ► Forbes and fast company are reporting that apple plans to ditch the standard [TS]

01:27:22 ◼   ► 3.5 millimeter headphone jack when it releases iphone 7 later this year only a [TS]

01:27:26 ◼   ► massive who are these people have been to eat left they finished high school [TS]

01:27:30 ◼   ► only a massive international campaign could force Apple to change course now [TS]

01:27:35 ◼   ► really is that the only thing that can cause it to happen that seems very like [TS]

01:27:38 ◼   ► a very odd thing to just guess [TS]

01:27:39 ◼   ► oh my god that's horrible not only will this force iphone users to do a lot of [TS]

01:27:43 ◼   ► additional cash to replace their Wi-Fi headphones their high five headphones it [TS]

01:27:47 ◼   ► will single-handedly create mountains of electronic waste that likely won't get [TS]

01:27:52 ◼   ► recycled after an em dash according to [TS]

01:27:56 ◼   ► united nations of the ninety percent of this oh my god this is so horrible [TS]

01:28:01 ◼   ► this is and further down this is right out of the Apple quickly but did you [TS]

01:28:05 ◼   ► know that you know that John's you know that they have a corporate playbook out [TS]

01:28:09 ◼   ► of which things are right taken a few years ago it swapped out the original [TS]

01:28:13 ◼   ► that's sounds like shot rock progressive except John would never write this [TS]

01:28:17 ◼   ► poorly a few years ago swapped out the original ipod dock connector with the [TS]

01:28:20 ◼   ► new one making cup with countless courts cables and chargers obsolete [TS]

01:28:24 ◼   ► whoo-hoo further down until Apple to keep the standard headphone jack and [TS]

01:28:28 ◼   ► ditch planned obsolescence ! so I find it fascinating as incredible i do [TS]

01:28:35 ◼   ► realize that if it's true that the headphone jack goes away that it will be [TS]

01:28:40 ◼   ► a inconvenience to people who have purchased third-party headphones and [TS]

01:28:46 ◼   ► more expensive they are them more inconvenient doesn't have to be an [TS]

01:28:51 ◼   ► inconvenience [TS]

01:28:51 ◼   ► well I mean you have to have an adapter or something like that and adapters [TS]

01:28:55 ◼   ► going to stick out rather than it did before I mean it you know it [TS]

01:28:59 ◼   ► yeah just did I mean like first of all it has not been announced yet there's no [TS]

01:29:03 ◼   ► way to know this is the classes one of those classic it's one of those classic [TS]

01:29:07 ◼   ► examples of taking something that isn't a thing yet taking even and how do you [TS]

01:29:12 ◼   ► begin with the idea of us something that's not a thing yet guess like two [TS]

01:29:16 ◼   ► orders of change away from that until you find something that makes you [TS]

01:29:19 ◼   ► infuriated until where people are extremely angry about something that [TS]

01:29:22 ◼   ► hasn't happened so i don't know i guess i just feel like I think it is [TS]

01:29:28 ◼   ► interesting because it would it could mean lots of different stuff for the [TS]

01:29:32 ◼   ► company but if you watch apple at all and I'm gonna say this will happen but [TS]

01:29:36 ◼   ► if it does happen i thought this would be surprising at all especially given [TS]

01:29:39 ◼   ► how much they want slimness given how much they want might want this added [TS]

01:29:43 ◼   ► functionality [TS]

01:29:44 ◼   ► I don't think they're doing it to make you buy new headphones i think they're [TS]

01:29:47 ◼   ► doing because they think that's the future rather than the past right and [TS]

01:29:50 ◼   ► implicit in this line of argument is the idea that they should never get rid of [TS]

01:29:55 ◼   ► this headphone port and that devices that we buy 20 30 40 years from now [TS]

01:30:00 ◼   ► she's still have the same headphone port because at any given to . [TS]

01:30:05 ◼   ► if every device that could have headphones uses the same port there's [TS]

01:30:10 ◼   ► never gonna be a year where it's like well now is the year when nobody's going [TS]

01:30:14 ◼   ► to be put to any inconvenience whatsoever by this right and it's and [TS]

01:30:18 ◼   ► the fact that they they make mention of the 30-pin to lightning adapter thing is [TS]

01:30:23 ◼   ► to me it's like that that the people who sign mr. still upset about that one [TS]

01:30:28 ◼   ► it's it's like yes that was an inconvenience and I know just from like [TS]

01:30:32 ◼   ► talking to people like one of the scenarios where that was really [TS]

01:30:35 ◼   ► inconvenient would be like let's say that you're maybe like you and your [TS]

01:30:41 ◼   ► spouse are on every other year schedules getting new phones you need to get one [TS]

01:30:44 ◼   ► every two years but every other you know one year for 11 year for the other so [TS]

01:30:48 ◼   ► there was a year there where one of the you know household members had the old [TS]

01:30:53 ◼   ► iphone port and the other anyone up [TS]

01:30:56 ◼   ► it was the worst for a while yeah and so it's not just as simple if unless [TS]

01:31:00 ◼   ► everybody in the house witches at once it's not as simple as just well just buy [TS]

01:31:04 ◼   ► a couple of the new ones and leave around but like if there's a charger in [TS]

01:31:07 ◼   ► the kitchen or something like that well now you've got to have a dongle or [TS]

01:31:10 ◼   ► something but it once you know give it a couple years to work itself out and now [TS]

01:31:15 ◼   ► it's a better world because we have a better sport it's smaller works by [TS]

01:31:19 ◼   ► directionally right in hindsight it's like wow that that really worked out [TS]

01:31:24 ◼   ► well let me let me ask you an extremely carefully worded question or ask our [TS]

01:31:27 ◼   ► listeners that extremely carefully worded question how many of you out [TS]

01:31:31 ◼   ► there are using headphones that you bought over five years ago that you [TS]

01:31:37 ◼   ► still use several times a week and do you intend to keep using them for the [TS]

01:31:44 ◼   ► next two years but listen to the next year [TS]

01:31:46 ◼   ► how about this headphones you bought in the last four years that you still use [TS]

01:31:51 ◼   ► more than one time with several times a week maybe [TS]

01:31:54 ◼   ► are there any that you bought over four years ago that you're using everyday [TS]

01:31:57 ◼   ► with with an iphone right and do you intend to use effort of the year because [TS]

01:32:02 ◼   ► here's the thing that's when the lightning adapter came out was four [TS]

01:32:05 ◼   ► years ago follow ya in the amount of time since the lightning adapter has [TS]

01:32:11 ◼   ► come out i am not finding it difficult to deal with not having a [TS]

01:32:17 ◼   ► deepen USB Jack anymore it just doesn't come up it comes up a couple times a [TS]

01:32:22 ◼   ► week maybe or maybe even less because i have to charge my kids ancient ipad2 but [TS]

01:32:28 ◼   ► that that transition is well and truly over with the exception of maybe going [TS]

01:32:33 ◼   ► into a hotel room yet finding someplace that still have those did you see my [TS]

01:32:37 ◼   ► point though like so so what's the legacy problem here do you personally [TS]

01:32:40 ◼   ► have any headphones that like you couldn't afford to replace that you've [TS]

01:32:43 ◼   ► used for more than four years and need to use for the more than the next year [TS]

01:32:47 ◼   ► or so because it's gonna be at least a year i'm going to guess until that [TS]

01:32:50 ◼   ► happens to be the light falls apart already [TS]

01:32:53 ◼   ► because you know that it's not like you get a feel like getting your dad's rolex [TS]

01:32:57 ◼   ► we're talking about headphones that people probably by every couple years [TS]

01:32:59 ◼   ► anyway [TS]

01:33:00 ◼   ► yeah boy an awful lot of you I know and it's nice [TS]

01:33:04 ◼   ► at this point where you we've got internet I i think if you did like a [TS]

01:33:08 ◼   ► thorough you know comb combing of our household and counted up all of the [TS]

01:33:15 ◼   ► pairs of white apple earbuds that are in this house [TS]

01:33:18 ◼   ► look I would not be surprised if the number of working pairs of them was at [TS]

01:33:24 ◼   ► least I don't know 12 maybe more maybe like 15 20 would be surprised and it's [TS]

01:33:31 ◼   ► nice there for like I've got a pair here at my desk and I think i've been using [TS]

01:33:34 ◼   ► these for a while [TS]

01:33:35 ◼   ► those are just my emergency travel headphones I hate him I hate him [TS]

01:33:39 ◼   ► hi they fit my ears pretty well so i use them a meal doesn't really like them but [TS]

01:33:44 ◼   ► uses them and Jonas just goes Jonas likes them a lot so he Jones uses but [TS]

01:33:49 ◼   ► it's nice if you misplace a pair you just find another Perry picking and it [TS]

01:33:52 ◼   ► so it'll be a pain yes you'll get a new iphone presumably if it comes you know [TS]

01:33:56 ◼   ► unless they go one knows what they're going to do that's the other thing that [TS]

01:33:58 ◼   ► makes me so hot crazy about that are not crazy but so like what's wrong with you [TS]

01:34:04 ◼   ► people like we haven't heard the story yet if if it's true we haven't even [TS]

01:34:09 ◼   ► heard what Apple expects us to do is they gonna go entirely wireless is that [TS]

01:34:13 ◼   ► a new thing is it is it going to be the Lightning port let's just say that they [TS]

01:34:19 ◼   ► do include a pair of wired headphones and they plug into the Lightning port [TS]

01:34:24 ◼   ► yes it will be mildly inconvenient that like the 15 pairs of headphones in the [TS]

01:34:27 ◼   ► house already [TS]

01:34:28 ◼   ► no longer work [TS]

01:34:29 ◼   ► on this phone and you have to use the one that came with your phone but [TS]

01:34:31 ◼   ► they're gonna give you a pair of headphones at work going to give you a [TS]

01:34:34 ◼   ► pair of the work and knowing apple I mean apples has been fairly consistent [TS]

01:34:38 ◼   ► about this i call it personally called the one-year warning shot which is the [TS]

01:34:42 ◼   ► Apple will give you if you're looking for it you'll notice a warning shot [TS]

01:34:45 ◼   ► about what's going to go away in a year if you're paying attention that could be [TS]

01:34:49 ◼   ► all kinds of different devices but these are the classic for me is the scrolling [TS]

01:34:52 ◼   ► direction i said okay from now on we're changing the scrolling direction on OS [TS]

01:34:56 ◼   ► 10 gonna seem weird but that's going to be you know here's the thing if you if [TS]

01:35:00 ◼   ► it absolutely drives you crazy [TS]

01:35:02 ◼   ► you can go back and change it to the other way like an animal but but we want [TS]

01:35:06 ◼   ► you to know that like this is the way we're moving and if you want to move in [TS]

01:35:09 ◼   ► the direction apple is moving i'm not saying this is good bad or indifferent [TS]

01:35:11 ◼   ► you need to listen for those warning shots and in the next year get your head [TS]

01:35:14 ◼   ► around the fact that this is going to change so yes I think they will give you [TS]

01:35:17 ◼   ► if if this is the change and I don't think there's evidence that there is but [TS]

01:35:20 ◼   ► whatever if there is going to give the right headphones and you know what i'll [TS]

01:35:24 ◼   ► bet you $MONEY you can find some kind of janky ass adapter will let you use your [TS]

01:35:28 ◼   ► beloved headphones but i don't think i think if they do this it's not going to [TS]

01:35:34 ◼   ► be because it makes your life miserable because they want to do something really [TS]

01:35:37 ◼   ► new and that to me is super interesting what could you do with lightning [TS]

01:35:42 ◼   ► headphones there's so many things that are super interesting to me and thinking [TS]

01:35:45 ◼   ► about that and we want to think about also about stuff like could you have one [TS]

01:35:49 ◼   ► else had a charger pack it would be conceivable have a charger pack ahead [TS]

01:35:51 ◼   ► it's just up slightly larger than usual chin on it where you could potentially [TS]

01:35:56 ◼   ► have to plug that in to the lightning and then have put the transmitter and [TS]

01:36:01 ◼   ► off to the side a dangerous for plugging in old-style headphones I mean to me [TS]

01:36:05 ◼   ► that's not beyond imagination [TS]

01:36:06 ◼   ► sure you could do it but wouldn't want to have to look like you think I didn't [TS]

01:36:11 ◼   ► mean it might just be a just a straight adapter would just be like a little you [TS]

01:36:16 ◼   ► know well on a cord probably yeah either on the end maybe it would be on the [TS]

01:36:20 ◼   ► court may be other ways you can get that ipad pro pencil problem if you've got [TS]

01:36:24 ◼   ► the right for the flick full-on long iPhone Jack that's been pretty long [TS]

01:36:29 ◼   ► accounting for what's already inside the phone [TS]

01:36:31 ◼   ► yeah maybe it should be on a little cord because that way in it a little court if [TS]

01:36:35 ◼   ► it was on like a little like you know like inch to inch scale then it wouldn't [TS]

01:36:40 ◼   ► be like a [TS]

01:36:41 ◼   ► Chris breaking off your thing in your pocket but the size of one of those [TS]

01:36:44 ◼   ► splitters like where you want to split into two and you get two separate courts [TS]

01:36:47 ◼   ► coming out something along those lines [TS]

01:36:49 ◼   ► I like that without that would fix the legacy problem is it elegant know but [TS]

01:36:53 ◼   ► welcome to the future like you're gonna buy new headphones anyway especially I [TS]

01:36:57 ◼   ► don't know either way either gonna use this old 3.5 millimeter port forever [TS]

01:37:03 ◼   ► forever or any time scale or eventually somebody is going to ship a product that [TS]

01:37:09 ◼   ► doesn't use it and so I i had i don't get it i really do enjoy them so I [TS]

01:37:14 ◼   ► here's the thing i really do wonder if it's true i wonder if this actually is a [TS]

01:37:18 ◼   ► rare case in my opinion of a deliberate leak by Apple to vent a whole bunch of [TS]

01:37:25 ◼   ► the anger almost an entire year in advance so that when it is announced it [TS]

01:37:32 ◼   ► doesn't come as a shock to nearly as many people who has done the most [TS]

01:37:38 ◼   ► significant and reliable reporting working out apparently reliable [TS]

01:37:42 ◼   ► reporting on this I i guess the guy at Fast Company ok ok i guess and notably [TS]

01:37:51 ◼   ► not German so he words [TS]

01:37:53 ◼   ► yeah Forbes and fast company is what the petition says that they don't know they [TS]

01:37:58 ◼   ► do have links to it at the bottom so if you go to that petition page that [TS]

01:38:01 ◼   ► helping Forbes let me look at their page anymore [TS]

01:38:05 ◼   ► iphone 7 leaks quote confirm Avila banding headphone jack so i got this [TS]

01:38:11 ◼   ► like it's like they've got a different dictionary exactly it when they did put [TS]

01:38:16 ◼   ► the word converted quotes that's great that's great that's just a little better [TS]

01:38:22 ◼   ► than putting proves it in quotation what's it's like reality but maybe not [TS]

01:38:29 ◼   ► the Fast Company headline is it's true [TS]

01:38:32 ◼   ► colon apple will drop headphone jack to make the iphone 7 slimmer comma says [TS]

01:38:36 ◼   ► source I i would say that the Fast Company was probably the most reliable [TS]

01:38:42 ◼   ► it's also locate so I didn't having exactly ask you this do you think this [TS]

01:38:46 ◼   ► will happen i do okay because i feel like it has to happen eventually [TS]

01:38:51 ◼   ► and so why not now [TS]

01:38:52 ◼   ► ok and what are you what are some of the benefits i guess the most obvious one [TS]

01:38:58 ◼   ► apparently is that it is the gating factor for getting the phone any thinner [TS]

01:39:03 ◼   ► well maybe the counter-argument to that is that the current ipod touches are [TS]

01:39:09 ◼   ► significantly thinner than the iphone the current iphone and so and they still [TS]

01:39:15 ◼   ► have the standard headphone jack and there are ipods other you know like [TS]

01:39:21 ◼   ► regular non iOS ipods that are even thinner still that still have that port [TS]

01:39:26 ◼   ► but like on the ipods that are thinner that have that port that there's like a [TS]

01:39:32 ◼   ► chin area where that the inserted part of the headphone jack doesn't actually [TS]

01:39:37 ◼   ► go underneath the display remember which makes it easier engineering lies on the [TS]

01:39:43 ◼   ► ipod touch it does its it it could you could make a significantly thinner [TS]

01:39:48 ◼   ► iphone and keep this port but without question any every port you remove is [TS]

01:39:55 ◼   ► got to make it the device smaller and lighter [TS]

01:39:58 ◼   ► yeah when it's also i mean there seems like there's several i'm an engineer [TS]

01:40:01 ◼   ► obviously but you know it's comments and let them that if ya gettin worked out [TS]

01:40:06 ◼   ► and don't even replace it with another port of any kind of this every every [TS]

01:40:10 ◼   ► every dingus you can take off of there it could mean all kinds of things it [TS]

01:40:13 ◼   ► means it means more space to do anything with that area including what components [TS]

01:40:16 ◼   ► you can put their in its place [TS]

01:40:17 ◼   ► remember also we're talking about like at least one three quarters of an inch [TS]

01:40:20 ◼   ► of depth you've got an engineer around with that [TS]

01:40:22 ◼   ► yeah i think this and it's already got that depth accounted for i actually [TS]

01:40:26 ◼   ► think if you could pick the brains of like a hardware engineer at apple who [TS]

01:40:30 ◼   ► work specifically on these problems of how do we cram all the stuff we [TS]

01:40:35 ◼   ► absolutely need and get the biggest possible battery that we can given the [TS]

01:40:39 ◼   ► insane [TS]

01:40:40 ◼   ► thinnest that Jony Ive's team has saying we're supposed to build this at i would [TS]

01:40:46 ◼   ► say i would bet that if you talk to one of the engineers on it works on that [TS]

01:40:50 ◼   ► here's what Johnny's team says we're supposed to be able to build how do we [TS]

01:40:53 ◼   ► make this reality that the depth of the jack into the device is actually a [TS]

01:40:58 ◼   ► bigger problem than the 3.5 millimeter diameter as well as I'm gonna I don't [TS]

01:41:04 ◼   ► think I don't know electronic spend as well as i'm guessing being one of the [TS]

01:41:07 ◼   ► most difficult parts in terms of moisture the Lightning I don't know I [TS]

01:41:12 ◼   ► feel like did I talk to you about my weird lighting thing last year where one [TS]

01:41:17 ◼   ► particular pin on my lightning cable had turned like a bluish green all of my [TS]

01:41:23 ◼   ► chargers know the exact same pin on both sides and it and I wondered if it was a [TS]

01:41:30 ◼   ► hardware virus but basically LOL @ and then also know my devices were charging [TS]

01:41:35 ◼   ► as well and it looked like basically an aquamarine is that the kind of dark blue [TS]

01:41:41 ◼   ► green yeah like a dark blue green crayon had been very lightly smudged on the [TS]

01:41:45 ◼   ► same pin 6 different lightning Jax is that insane but it must i'll bet the [TS]

01:41:52 ◼   ► problem must have been with the device that you had a device where the internal [TS]

01:41:56 ◼   ► what caused what is the question it's the driver Jeff being talking about the [TS]

01:42:00 ◼   ► hardware virus that Google to hear about that now i don't think i have i love the [TS]

01:42:03 ◼   ► story that hardware virus i'm giving minutes of mull that over in your head [TS]

01:42:07 ◼   ► that a hardware virus at Google where basically people's DVI Jack what he [TS]

01:42:14 ◼   ► called he called the the female on the laptop to Jack I think it's people's DVI [TS]

01:42:19 ◼   ► Jack's stopped working the port sorry the port stopped working and they all [TS]

01:42:24 ◼   ► had this same they appear to other people would notice that they were going [TS]

01:42:28 ◼   ► to plug in the projector didn't work they go and look and this one pin had [TS]

01:42:33 ◼   ► gotten my kind of basically been distorted inside all these different [TS]

01:42:37 ◼   ► people's laptops in and so that you would go and if you're whatever room you [TS]

01:42:42 ◼   ► look at the plug and that plug was messed up your laptop is messed up [TS]

01:42:46 ◼   ► suddenly everybody's noticing all the laptops and all the plugs are messed up [TS]

01:42:49 ◼   ► and you can figure out why write it all started with one slide projector having [TS]

01:42:54 ◼   ► a [TS]

01:42:54 ◼   ► you can pin and passing that defect on to any piece of hardware that plug into [TS]

01:42:58 ◼   ► and then consequently each piece of pop art hardware the plug into that computer [TS]

01:43:03 ◼   ► then got it to which would then pass it on everybody else that's insane [TS]

01:43:08 ◼   ► it's incredible what an amazing idea i've never heard of that before and now [TS]

01:43:13 ◼   ► it's kind of amazing it doesn't happen more often so that was my first thought [TS]

01:43:15 ◼   ► isn't that how Skynet started is that the 190 Robocop Terminator oh sorry yeah [TS]

01:43:23 ◼   ► that's right that's right that's how that started so i don't i don't know [TS]

01:43:27 ◼   ► much about that you know what's funny is like I i can't believe i'm living in an [TS]

01:43:32 ◼   ► age where my phone feels too thin and my touch ID seems too fast like it when I [TS]

01:43:37 ◼   ► take the naked robotic or out of the leather case and I hold in my hand I [TS]

01:43:40 ◼   ► have to tell you my success prime feels like a little too thin [TS]

01:43:45 ◼   ► it's not that comfortable to me I don't think I wanted to be any thinner [TS]

01:43:49 ◼   ► yeah and I wish I now to get like right now and see if I have any messages i use [TS]

01:43:53 ◼   ► my pinky now because I want to be able to see the lock screen before it turns [TS]

01:43:59 ◼   ► on it's so impossibly fast now could you ever imagine the damage something a [TS]

01:44:03 ◼   ► grown man with bitch about ya know it still gets me when I want to take a [TS]

01:44:06 ◼   ► photo like something is happening like oh my god I got a picture of this right [TS]

01:44:09 ◼   ► now but right I developed the habit a few years ago when they added the [TS]

01:44:12 ◼   ► feature where there's a camera shortcut on the lock screen swipe up remembering [TS]

01:44:16 ◼   ► that in but and I've when i'm normally using the phone i I'm getting better at [TS]

01:44:22 ◼   ► if I really do want to see the lock screen I know to use the side button to [TS]

01:44:26 ◼   ► wake it up instead of the fingerprint button that's good yeah but when I but [TS]

01:44:32 ◼   ► when I mean like that emergency holy cow there's a squirrel eating a you know [TS]

01:44:37 ◼   ► eating a duck eating it [TS]

01:44:38 ◼   ► yes there's a score leading a duck I don't have time to think i have to think [TS]

01:44:44 ◼   ► to use that side button I just instantly go to the home button and then I met you [TS]

01:44:48 ◼   ► know that's yi like muscle muscle reflex and now i'm looking around for all man [TS]

01:44:52 ◼   ► right yeah and now it's like my twitter client is open and I'm like a look at [TS]

01:44:56 ◼   ► this onto it starts shaking an old man like always and I wanna get back to the [TS]

01:45:01 ◼   ► screen i was on by the way I want to i'm thinking about writing about this but I [TS]

01:45:05 ◼   ► actually looked up I had the same problem you just went to verb [TS]

01:45:08 ◼   ► only a minute or two ago there about the the word Jack and is Jack when you talk [TS]

01:45:12 ◼   ► about the headphone jack is the jack the the mail or is it the female it ends up [TS]

01:45:17 ◼   ► here's the deck different dictionary definition is it good [TS]

01:45:20 ◼   ► I socket with two or more pairs of terminals designed to receive a jack [TS]

01:45:25 ◼   ► plug so it is the female but it in the dictionary this is the Apple dictionary [TS]

01:45:30 ◼   ► which is what like american heritage or something they describe it as needing [TS]

01:45:36 ◼   ► two or more pairs of terminals so like I i feel like the dictionaries wrong on [TS]

01:45:40 ◼   ► that case because every you know it doesn't seem like they have a definition [TS]

01:45:43 ◼   ► that would work with headphone jack where there's just one terminal with [TS]

01:45:48 ◼   ► that that's jack or socket jacket [TS]

01:45:51 ◼   ► jaaack jacket a socket with two or more pairs of terminals designed to receive a [TS]

01:45:57 ◼   ► jack plug so that's the female headphone dingus Jack they're saying that she [TS]

01:46:02 ◼   ► called Jill there's hey there they should I thought of that that it does [TS]

01:46:07 ◼   ► seem like maybe the right [TS]

01:46:09 ◼   ► the jet airplane food and a rocket Jack so they're saying it's a jack is the [TS]

01:46:15 ◼   ► socket and the jack plug is the plug [TS]

01:46:19 ◼   ► oh ok in the what you call the pig face thing that you get 110 electricity out [TS]

01:46:25 ◼   ► of in your house is that out legal an outlet i would normally call it an [TS]

01:46:30 ◼   ► outlet but i might call it which we jack your plug into the socket you call that [TS]

01:46:33 ◼   ► an outlet yeah my call it a jack casually i would prefer to call it Jack [TS]

01:46:37 ◼   ► because I feel like it's jack is a pretty good word [TS]

01:46:40 ◼   ► uh-huh i feel like with headphones in casual speaking you can kinda it doesn't [TS]

01:46:45 ◼   ► make any logical sense but that you can kind of get away with calling the male [TS]

01:46:48 ◼   ► and the female jack [TS]

01:46:50 ◼   ► no just take that if you got your headphones just take the jack and plug [TS]

01:46:53 ◼   ► it into the jack jack in the jack [TS]

01:46:55 ◼   ► yeah yeah absolutely take the headphone jack and just plug it right into the [TS]

01:46:59 ◼   ► jack on the phone white what do you are what do you make of the the apparent [TS]

01:47:04 ◼   ► obsession with increasing thinnest what do you make of that I mean I'm gonna say [TS]

01:47:12 ◼   ► we make money make that I did you do you like that do you feel that it is useful [TS]

01:47:17 ◼   ► and important and why in particular do you think it seems like such an [TS]

01:47:20 ◼   ► obsession in [TS]

01:47:21 ◼   ► side the white room to make things thinner and is that a thing because it [TS]

01:47:25 ◼   ► feels like a thing I don't know anybody I don't know I can't think of anybody I [TS]

01:47:30 ◼   ► know who's top of the list even the top five would be I want a thinner phone [TS]

01:47:34 ◼   ► pretty much everybody i know says I wouldn't who knows this could be at [TS]

01:47:38 ◼   ► cross-purposes like with your think thinking fast mind you're thinking slow [TS]