00:00:00 ◼ ► think about setting up a business unlocking iphones it's easy i hear ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/0">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► wow that's going nuts though you know it's like and I kind of feel like a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► of call bit where it's like I mean I don't think this is very hard to it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/11">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► like I'm the only one you know made it unique observation but that it it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/14">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► far from a slam-dunk because it's largely at least so far being tried in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/21">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► the court of public opinion not in the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/27">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► except for today yeah so it's is actually like late-breaking news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/31">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► can you explain that I think you're probably better form that i am well now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/36">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► I wouldn't say that in another case not the one that is really at the forefront [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/40">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► a federal judge in brooklyn today rolled at the government could not force Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/47">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► to unlock a phone and iphone and it was I guess that they did i do it again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/54">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► it was this publicized also we know that this case was coming or or just drop out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/60">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► well there were I mean they had talked about several other cases in which the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/65">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► you know not necessarily the FBI but other you know like district attorneys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/70">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► and things and you know other jurisdictions they were trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► Apple to unlock phones in order to get information for not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/80">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► terrorism-related cases but just like you know racketeering drugs what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/84">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► like a whole bunch of the right and so this one this new york case so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/89">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► just call it by the location i will say the new york this is the new york case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/92">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► and the other ones the sand bernhard Bernardino's right case so that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/95">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► different and it's one of the ways it's different is it a drug case so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/101">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► terrorism which doesn't really shouldn't really change the law but it absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/106">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► changed changes the amount of radioactive publicity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/112">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► around this you know like use aid Brad there's a guy in Brooklyn is up on drug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/116">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► charges and everybody is like oh ok but it's it it's tuesday and then you say a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/122">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► bunch of a Muslim couple committed an act of terrorism and and shot up 14 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/131">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► killed 14 people and shot up 22 others and yes terrorism and then people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/138">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► you know and again i'm gonna be making fun of it it's it's a natural reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/144">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► it is it that's shocking and it's it is you know you know it and I mean in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/147">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► far as i know in this drug case nobody nobody was killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► I mean you know I mean maybe somebody was killed in relation to this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/155">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► however that defendant is dealing that I don't actually know but you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/160">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► certainly wasn't a case where 14 people right but in terms of the legal question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/164">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► of whether the united states federal law as it stands today I can have you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/168">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► result in the Department of Justice getting a court order to force Apple or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/174">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► any other company to write new code for their devices to comply with the law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/180">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► I don't think it's any different there's nothing magical about terrorism that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/185">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► different than drugs in terms of can Apple be compelled to do this and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/190">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► judge in this case this was his name or James orenstein seems I didn't read his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/194">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► order at it it's too late braking is a 50-page thing but there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/199">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► highlights that came out he really seemed to rip the feds we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/203">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► build it but after what's the one that matter friend Matthew pans or end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/207">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► show Matthew pans or end of the show I mean all the stuff gets down to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/213">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► this some all writs aggregate which we have become familiar with that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/220">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► you know we love you know since we've done our crash course as constitutional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/228">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► law experts we laugh I one of the things I've seen and I do appreciate I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/232">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► appreciate that there are people who feel otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► and you know I it seems to me like most people who read during fire bombs into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/240">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► the show I thought before I'd like the last episode do it down while I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/244">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► that most people probably agreed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/247">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► what I think and judging from the feedback I've seen they do but clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/250">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► not everybody does and i'll even admit that that's you know I don't agree but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/254">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► did you know it's nice to have a reasonable disagreement with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/257">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► um that you don't know this isn't this isn't the world we want to live and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/261">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► really should have something where you know that the cops can get into a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/265">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► ok but the question of whether this all writs Act is the law that should this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/269">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► should be based on to me even if you think that the yet law enforcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/277">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► should have some kind of technical way to get a phone if they really need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/281">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► they re I really feel like it's almost on it you can't debate that day they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/284">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► should try to get a new law passed because the laws as they stand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/289">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► there's just no way this to get there from here yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/294">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► did you read the all writs actress no I did it's actually it's very short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/298">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► it's extremely short well I think that's part of the problem whichever yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/303">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► very short and it's you know it was written in 1789 so there are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/307">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► it's not exist but it's not dense you know I mean the plain meaning of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/313">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► especially when you read but other people say about it you know people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/317">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► are more expert in constitutional law if they say that the whole point of the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/320">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► writs Act was this was right at the beginning of the federal gov our federal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/325">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► government you know the Constitution the inquest even dry on it and this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/328">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► way so that you know the laws you know all sorts of things are we never thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/334">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► that we better make a lot all those little things you know hadn't happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► yet the all writs Act was passed as a sort of catch-all for like hey if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/342">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► something hasn't been cut of if a case comes before you that falls between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/347">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► cracks of the laws that hadn't been anticipated you know this grants the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/350">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► courts a bit of leeway to you know well so they don't shrug their shoulders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/354">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► its really really hard to see how that applies here especially when so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/361">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► laws have been passed about things like encryption and digital devices and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/365">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► like that that that they easily could have if if Congress had wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/369">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► mandate something like this easily could have had in fact there are laws on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/373">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► books that that's actually stimulate the other way that you know tech companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/376">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► what was that I had a link to any other down daring fireball forget the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/382">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► the Act I guess I could look it up do we have that capability here it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/387">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► Kodiak ok the communications assistance for law enforcement act so even just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/397">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► name the name of that law really makes it clear that this is you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/403">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► really something that's very very close and so here's the section the section of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/408">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► kalia entitled design of features and systems configurations the statute says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/413">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► it does not authorize any law enforcement agency or officer to require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/418">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► any specific design of equipment facilities services features or system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/423">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► configurations to be adopted by any provider of a wire or electronic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/428">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► communication service any manufacturer of telecommunications equipment or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/432">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► provider of telecommunications support services and you know again such as me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/438">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► i'm not you know how to put on my scooby-doo had here and doing is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/444">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► mature lawyer and this is you know real legal experts are saying that this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/448">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► know this was something that Apple cited in their own motion to vacate the order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/452">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► apple is saying that and i think that there might be some slight ambiguity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/458">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► there that maybe this the law was kind of written on the with phone companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/463">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► in in mind you know like AT&T right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/468">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► verizon and those type of people not necessarily the handset maker but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/471">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► don't know i mean i think a plain reading of the law you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► telecommunications equipment and supporting that's you know cellphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/478">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► that's what that's what an iphone and their taste them that passes i just read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/482">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► very specifically seems to say you can't make them do things like this you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/486">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► get a warrant to like investigate what they already have but you can't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/491">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► yeah so here's the quote from Judge orenstein that Matthew now this is so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/496">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► reiterate for anybody's following along can keep the namesake this is the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/505">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► york case that just broke today and 829 februari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/508">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► this wasn't what I was thinking about this one's good too i'm i conclude that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/512">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► Apple's position is more consistent than the government's with the rule of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► statutory construction that requires giving meaning to all statutory words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/519">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► and clauses as well as the rules prohibiting interpretations that produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► absurd results for our of this suspect constitutionality heat right so in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/528">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► words I mean that you it's actually it's kind of a good read it's like dripping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/534">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► with sarcasm I mean he's your hits and then the one that I remember that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/538">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► this there's another one that says something like it it's basically to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► effect of it you know if the government's permission is true position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► is accurate then there's nothing stopping the government from commanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/548">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► someone to commit murder right way we can command you to do whatever we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/553">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► to get this is this this glenn greenwald of the intercept has cited this passage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/558">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► the judge also accused the government trying to manipulate secret judicial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/565">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► proceedings to obtain powers for itself against apple that public debate in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/568">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► Congress would never permit it is judge orenstein wrote quote clear that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/574">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► government has made the considered decision that it is better off securing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/580">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► such crypto legislative authority from the courts in proceedings that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/584">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► always been at the time and filed the instant application shielded from public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/590">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► scrutiny rather than taking the chance that open legislative debate might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/593">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► produce a result less to its liking and quote back to Greenwald because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/598">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► government wants the courts rather than Congress to grant this power the quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/602">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► government's interpretation of the breath and authority of the all writs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/607">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► Act confers on courts of limited jurisdiction raises serious doubts about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/611">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► how such a statute could withstand constitutional scrutiny under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/617">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► separation of powers dr so what is morally saying is there's just no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/622">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► that there's no way that it that that by not happen you know completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/627">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► circumventing the legislature and doing this and secret through the courts how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/631">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► in the world is that will fit within our system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/634">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► so I really really think I mean as this goes on in this I mean this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/638">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► devastating in my opinion I mean it seems to me not just what I think but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/641">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► you know Greenwald's pretty smart on issues like this it just seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/645">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► everybody you know follows the stuff really sees this as a slam-dunk case and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/650">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► yeah well this ruling is this right right right apples favor definitely I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/656">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► mean obviously I think the government's going to appeal this too right I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/660">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► can't imagine that they wouldn't it seems like they would so it's never you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/663">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► know it's never completely over until the visor computer-related yeah or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/668">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► going to this problem cares i wonder when they filed this because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/673">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► clearly not the time we add so many of us have said that this the San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/676">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► Bernardino phone is such a perfect example for the government because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/680">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► quote-unquote terrorism and it was mean it wasn't just like suspects am easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/684">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► to do to people who actually shot and killed a bunch of people let me know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/690">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► it's true you know they actually committed it it wasn't even like a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/693">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► know right up a plan and it just lends them so much more emotional and and sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/696">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► of now in some ways political weight behind their request that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/706">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► yeah yeah i mean the Terrorism stuff obviously brings out people's emotions a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/714">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► lot rap and again records where some people think I like drug myself well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/721">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► again I would be lost without my drug dealer again we laugh but I i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/728">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► speak for you that it i also though I see that though is you know it is common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/733">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► sense that some you know portion of the public would see this differently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/739">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► it's not necessarily unreasonable people you know I didn't mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/742">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► it gets to the root of the the real word terrorism not be politicised one that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/746">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► thrown about but the real word you know the that it strikes terror in people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/751">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► when you're terrorized you know you have a reaction you actually not if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/755">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► terrorized ended you don't really hear you're like I'm cool I'm scared out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/760">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► you're you know you're not there something wrong with your doctor or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/764">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► there's like evolutionary reasons why when when when you encounter a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/767">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► terrifying situation that your body but you know what reacts and very quick and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/775">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► and decided way you know I i find this argument about I mean it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/780">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► interesting argument about the the idea that where this debate should take place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/785">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► and I'm just here to put it into into simple terms for stupid people like me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/789">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► had not seen the most recent Mission Impossible movie it and I just started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/796">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► watching it this afternoon and then this this came out which is kind of funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/801">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► because the in the very beginning they disband the IMF you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/805">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► impossible missions pores which is it completely unregulated organization that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/811">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► acts without any accountability whatsoever and and we're supposed to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/816">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► we know and watching the movie that kind of root for the people who have actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/823">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► yeah but even there even with the IMF and I liked that movie that's a rogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/829">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► nation right this neighborhood i actually enjoyed that very much I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/833">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► thought it was and it's it's funny I don't want to do any spoilers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/836">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► there's actually a whole bunch of parallels to Spector it's almost uncanny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/839">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► how similar the two movies are like that the lengths to which you could draw you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/844">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► know create a what they call the summaries you know like you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/849">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► when you done netflix and they give you like the quick summary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/856">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► oh yeah you like a half a review and a half of a quick plot summary like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/859">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► can go you can go pretty far into detail and have it apply just as well to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/862">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► rotation inspector I find that rogue nation was by far the better movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/867">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► that's my understanding have not seen evidence Inspectorate that is a subject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/871">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► first and different episode of the show yeah it wasn't possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/876">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► I think it's great but one difference is at least with IMF like it you know Ethan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/879">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► Hunt would break into apple and he would write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/884">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► but he would write the code himself you know and he would be with benji benji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/887">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► would really have enjoyed the company that would break in and I need to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/892">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► glasses you know so that she could see what you're saying and I in he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/895">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► steal Apple signing key and then you know that they would do all the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/900">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► themselves and they would do so knowing that they're breaking the law to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/905">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► brand they wouldn't you know it it's still they had different from this which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/908">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► is really of this sort of compulsory we're gonna make you do we would we tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/913">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► you to do even though you say we absolutely positively would never do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/918">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► what you're asking us to do is something we would never do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/921">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► yeah yeah I mean it seems to me like there maybe I don't mean somebody like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/924">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► Richmond have a better idea that I would but like there may be a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► somebody super-smart could do that in but that's not really what the point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/934">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► here that the point is to create legal precedent right I I'm they're not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/940">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► in the last week I've I am I one of the things that's come up as this has gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/945">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► on is is more more about how there's no way that Apple could create this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/951">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► well I mean technically it's possible that they could create this user once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/960">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► and then erase all you know traces of it and start over but for any kind of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/963">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► any case where they would need to show in court it has to be preserved you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/969">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► can't have evidence that was generated using a tool that you've been destroyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/975">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► increase the defense has a right to inspect the tool it i know that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/978">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► the slippery slope phrase it's like hear it over and over and over again and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/984">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► starts to lose meaning but I really feel like it's perfectly apt hear that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/988">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► you start down this path and it just leads and you don't even know where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/991">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► going to wind up right the fact that you have to preserve tools that are used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/994">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► generate evidence in a criminal case is you know and rightly so that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/998">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► what it should be but it just shows that you can you know there's no way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► they could create this and destroy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► yeah that's one of the ways that the San Bernardino case is a perfect storm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► because i don't i really don't think there is any kind of criminal case going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► on because the two suspects are dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► I mean so yeah right what is it exactly you mean they're not prosecuting anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► but they're looking for more people but what if they do find a text message on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► the phone and it's to somebody else and they're like we're gonna prosecute this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► guy well now there is a lawsuit and the way that they found the guy was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► this tool so even if there's no criminal case against these the two shooters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► there's you know the whole point of wanting to look at the phone on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► surface is is that they're looking for any other anybody else who they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► have been in conspiring with right what else is going on with this phone thing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► lot of bad commentary i do find that and again I guess it's it's well one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► things that's interesting i say this one of the things that's interesting about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► it is that it doesn't fall neatly on the left right political divide and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► general the political right is a little bit more friendly to law enforcement and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► the left is more friendly or or you know more or but more in favor of civil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► rights and civil liberties right so the ACLU is perceived probably correctly so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► as a left-leaning organization and you know and so and in some sense this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► definitely about absolutely about civil liberties that's apples entire defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► really um that if you would predict there's any kind of left-right split it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► would be you know Democrats and left-leaning people thought siding with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► apple and Republicans and conservative siding with for the yeah for the further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► but that's a really broad generalization and a lot of conservatives are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► libertarian minded and are suspicious of government and about those guys those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► guys that took that woman took over that land in portland probably over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► reports to the FBI it was it more like one likes Marvel it was oregon was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1134">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► Portland did I say for leading-man Oregon hit whatever is good but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► doing different than ever that would be pretty funny that occupy portland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► thank-you pie like a hipster coffee with a just brought really a really nice thai [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► restaurant takeover a food truck we can get rid of this guy but why are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► expensive donut really really great sneakers and now that I've seen an awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► lot of people who you know I follow on twitter for other political reasons who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► are you know and ordinarily would be on a republican conservative side and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► you know very much in favor of apple in this regard and I also seen a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► them i don't i see the similarities almost don't want to open the door on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► this but I've seen a lot of conservatives I've seen a lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► compare it to a gun ownership and and didn't gun gun control legislation and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1194">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► feel like that breaks down pretty quickly but at the top level I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► see that I do kind of see what you're getting at that there's this argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► that the second amendment at a very very high level that if you read it it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► know says you know to you know it's some kind of you know protection against that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► you know the government that you know you can protect yourself and that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► what encryption is that you can have this device where you protect the data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► yourself and you have a right to do this is an individual so I kind of see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► breaks to me it breaks down a very quickly because gun legislation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► encryption is binary did your stuff is either encrypted securely or it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► yes or no and yes there's different strengths to you know you give greater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► and greater key lengths and different algorithms and stuff like that so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► not saying all encryption is equivalent but it's either securely encrypted or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► not was gone ownership is a or gun legislation in terms of which guns you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► can buy is clearly there's a spectrum and everybody agrees is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► things that to me drives me nuts about when you talk about gun control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► legislation is that everybody seems to agree even if the hard the hardest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► the hard liners in the Second Amendment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► that you know normal civilian shouldn't be able to buys surface-to-air missiles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► to shoot down general you know that somewhere everybody's willing to draw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► line that these arms are too powerful and that the debate is where that line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► should be drawn but again i don't know if anyone and i'm sure this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► the topics i'm sure there are people who listen to the show fact I know a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► of them have friends who listen to the show who are you know staunch advocates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► of gun ownership rights but I do see the connection and I've i suspect that those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► type of listeners people who can who can bear to listen to my show and the small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► doses of politics i drop into it but our start Second Amendment advocates I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► guarantee those listeners are on Apple sinus yeah so I do think it makes for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► yeah the problem the problem is that there's sadly not enough representation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1313">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► of those views in politics really easy because most of the month most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► candidates have come out strongly in favor of the FBI or if they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► strongly in favor of the FBI like like our man Trump what's Trump say we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► open the damn phone just opened just open the damn phone just open it up it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► easy on the the thing that's a little frustrating is that the the the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► side is our kind of get involved there there take is more or less wishful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► thinking like let's put smart people in a room and you know from law enforcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► and from these great American tech companies and I'm sure they'll come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► with something that will that will a pretty keeping everybody's data are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► completely safe and secure and we'll let the FBI look at it whenever they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► nothing nothing bad has ever come out of a smoke-filled room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► it picks up maybe the sunblock what is this about that you said we'd I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► see this this now that I guess because it came out yesterday I didn't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► that there was a Sunday Wall Street Journal maybe it came out the newspaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► today and it was just as yesterday's date line LOL ellegarden l Gordon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► Kravitz now this sounds like a made-up name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► he would he used to be the publisher of the the general apparently but I had not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► really heard of him before this this piece but number one if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► conservative and you go by first initial Borden something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► no stop it she had his first name is his first name is Luis it's not like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► livanski or something I mean it's not like some long or your complicated or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► name that he would have gotten tease developing gordon Liddy yeah like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► is a guy is probably about Raj he he's doing it on bright like he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► good-looking to gordon Liddy and it's like hey I my middle name is Gordon i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1434">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► it's important to have role models I'm gonna be cool like a political hack did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► time for Nixon and became a after we got out became a right-wing radio kook right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► how would you summarize is his headline is Apple's rotten core so we went there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► I went to the well he spends a lot of time talking about IEDC he starts out by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► sort of trying to make it seem like apples argument is all about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► it's difficult to do or not and China and tries to make it seem like Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► just doesn't want to do it because it's because they're saying it's hard when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► that's really not the situation at all and he at some point he says that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► obviously they can find the quote Apple engineers Evan this I can't find out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► he says that Apple engineers are basically admitted that it that it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► keep could only apply to this one phone will not leave without linking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► anything at first a little at first claim this is a quote that this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► this work would affect millions of customers now it's engineers admit code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► which apple is never said well they could make an instance of the OS that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► only applies to one phone but it's you know at this point you're starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► talk it's like talking copy-protection you know with video games and apps you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► know where you once you have a version of the OS that has a statement that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► if the device ID equals this exact device ID then go ahead and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► we'll let the manner as many passcodes they want then somebody who illicitly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► obtained a copy of the OS can break into a debugger and just say why don't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► just skip that if check and again I realized and i don't i'm not gonna start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► a computer science podcast i realized that there are ways to obfuscate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► code so that it's not that easy to identify when you break into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► debugger but on the other hand I'll go back to my analogy of software copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► protection wear it you can't beat it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► eventually I mean if the you know did whatever checks and that you know most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► apps and games that are serious about it don't just have a if serial number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► equals legit dude you know go ahead and play the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► I mean I try to make it more complicated than that but you know anybody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► ever tried to you know investigated how much pirated software is out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► floating around the world and always has been will realize that there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► ways around it and it's the idea that they would be this version i'm gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► with this analogy it's not that bad it's sort of like they're asking him to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► a game that you know but we will make sure we're the only ones with the serial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► number but then anybody can crack it and now everybody's gotta you know phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► cracking thing else is that when Apple refused the court order Apple defenders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1614">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► claimed it was impossible to unlock the phone to see nobody said that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► nobody said nobody said that i quoted a thing today we're and maybe I even went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► the wrong way but that somebody you know there was this Washington Post story on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► that thing and they were like somebody was trying to give a quote like both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► sides are kind of liars former Justice Department official Jennifer dass cows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► that both sides are overstating argument she said the government is wrong to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► this is just about one case on the other hand it is wrong to say that if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► loses this case there's absolutely no limits to what the government can order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► a company to do and I'm daring fireball I said well the first part is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► true the government really is being disingenuous about this applying to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► one phone and I said that nobody especially not apples using words like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► absolutely no limits on what the government come order company to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► couple emails said well actually apples or doesn't quite say that exactly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► they do say that there's no end to the limit and like you said with the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1675">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► other one the orenstein one that you know what or whatever else or someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► would you say said that you know this could lead to the conclusion that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► government could order you to kill people that wasn't yeah that would arise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► that you know actually I mean I was there was not necessarily you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► was not saying that Apple I mean it was basically that wasn't that was a legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► interpretation of the misinterpretation reason that all writs act basically they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► were saying that that it they were saying that though the written law did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► not apply and so they need to invoke the all writs Act packed and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► gornstein was saying no there's actually a law on the books about this and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► can't just ignore that and invoke the law all writs Act because if you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► doing that then you can do anything I want that you know that this is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► what the rule of law is about that right we make these rules we have a general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► agreement as to what words mean and therefore you you you follow the law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► I've seen some people in and and you know I don't even over towards i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► know i have I feel like listeners at the show are smarter not going this way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► on Twitter they've been some people have approached me with the well how would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► feel if one of my family members had been killed by these people did you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► the one that's over here go down i don't think it that's really what said i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► Tim Cook feel of his wife but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► oh hey there's a couple problems with that state and be very surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► yeah yeah I think surprise rolling news for consumers reaction would be if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► police the police called him and said Mr Cook we have terrible news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► your wife is gonna say what now that that would be something and I get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1791">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► but this is why we don't have a jury's made up of the family members of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► victims I I sympathize i really do and I i totally agree with apples emphasis not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► just some PR but i think they really mean it that every time they talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► this Republican they say something right up front about the tremendous sympathy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► they have for the for the families of the victims of this incident and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► incident and that they you know cannot abide terrorism it's it's the trade-off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► there is no perfect way to to to cut this off you know you can either you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► know sacrifice some law enforcement opportunities to find clues and protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► privacy and civil liberties for everybody or not but that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► that's the trade-off that our systems in our founders made you know 200 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► yeah and as a matter of fact one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► relatives of one of the victims as actually side with Apple I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► surprised because you know yeah I mean you know I mean of course there's no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► mean there's going to be people on both sides right i mean there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► people who desperately want Apple to unlock the phone and the nursing people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► who wanted the other way right with 14 with 14 victims 19 dead and 22 others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► I mean it's not going you're going to find people who were directly involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► yeah it is hard and it but it's again this is you know and it I its it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► trying not to get angry the FBI for doing it and privately i guess i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► but at least professionally here on this very professional show I won't but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► it's infuriating that people who and and clearly people who work in the Justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► Department and the FBI are dispassionate about this and they understand civil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► liberties I mean I as far I've I think I don't know if it's still the case but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► think that for most and just about every FBI agent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► unless you're some kind of specialist is you have to have a law degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1915">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► you know FBI agents are not like you know your local police department i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► these these guys in women because men and women are legal experts and lawyers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► well they're not they're not what they're not always a lot of them are i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► think most of them are a lot of a lot of a lot of the biggest a standard way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► become an FBI agent is be a lawyer i think you know like you could be Dana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► Scully and be a medical thing a lot and well but allow them to come from law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► enforcement or or them and I don't think that's not i don't think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► situation where they go from law enforcement to leak to law school and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► under the FBI think I mean you have to be I think you just you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► well they're informed it's not easy i'm not saying it's easy but I'm but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► believe you have to look like a specific you don't have to be a whatever shady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► what I'm saying no is that they they know what they're doing you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► know that the legal argument you don't have to be aiming remember something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► there's that the cynicism involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► 22 to make these the the San Bernardino family members who are siding with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1973">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► publicly to to use that to their advantage is it's easy to get me worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► I don't know about that well I guess that's my pride that's the problem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► I expect better from today's US federal government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► I should i maybe I should be but I should have a disc disclosure that I my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► wife is a defense investigator so i guess in my family we come at it from us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► a certain perspective and and you know some of that is born of the experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► of the cases that she's been involved with over the you know the years the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► right and seeing some of the shenanigans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► I mean yeah this is only a whitewash of some of the stuff that you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► actually the a similar thing here where my wife was a defense attorney and solar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2033">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► project over your perfect dad is a good kind of totally online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► yeah we have all sides of me we a guy named John and his wife works in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► criminal investigations and we have a guy named John my father worked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► yeah right used or see your wife used to work rain and now right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► exactly so that's the dads the difference but both sides of the aisle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► from two guys named John with no formal training in here like output like apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► or pretend that because they read the all writs act that they know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► hell is going on i'm curious how this is gonna play out i'm also curious I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► we should take a break and I should talk about one of our friendly sponsors but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► when we come back I'm curious how this has played out is going to play out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► Congress and i'm not even sure I got the date all mixed up so did I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► maybe you can figure this out afterwards but we take a break though and thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2099">TS</a>]
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00:35:43 ◼ ► not even just like for like disaster recovery although it does work for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2143">TS</a>]
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00:35:56 ◼ ► let's say you're out and about and you need a file and all you have with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► use your phone and it's not even in your dropbox somewhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► on your desktop or something like that just go to the back please appt go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2162">TS</a>]
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00:36:12 ◼ ► twenty-five percent of all of their restores that customers actually do are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2172">TS</a>]
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00:36:22 ◼ ► service the the software is written at least the mac version is written by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► former Apple engineers these are guys who really really no it's not like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► kind of in a goofy java app that you know number one java you have to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2192">TS</a>]
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00:36:41 ◼ ► interface it it's the only interface you go through his little system preferences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► panel easy to setup the defaults are all saying there's not a lot of options you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► just sign up and you get a free account number one you get a free trial with no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► credit card required just go to backpage.com / daring fireball it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2215">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► let it run it uploads and then after that when you say wow this works is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► crazy that I didn't do what grouper told me to do a year ago and sign up then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► you didn't what do you do after that you just pay five bucks per month per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► computer and that's it and it's like you're saying it you know i have a 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► terabyte drive well guess what does matter just five bucks per per computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► that's it doesn't matter how much data you have and you'll feel so much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► knowing your stuff is backed up outside your home your office or wherever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► are so my thanks to back place backpage.com / daring fireball if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► you're nuts or palla Peter cone just want to work for planting backwards you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► almost said it black black baby i know i know i know you if you have practice you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► I don't even know how you do that but the difference is very good for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► so years ago I did a podcast right I did I did I did not say backblaze and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► black played over and over and over again and so you are friends . it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► easy my friend Yahoo's like their marketing guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► and a listen to the show and he went over to you know domain name register [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► any registered black blazer and for that's definitely that's definitely the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► slow that looks like i really like that I wish every time I screwed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► responsive read that they would just do it you have didn't just that when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► understand a pixel matura I still don't understand I didn't have to say it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► that I don't know I really don't know how you would read that I guess my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► initial guess was Pixelmator but then I thought well maybe that's wrong in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► and they were there you know their European they don't even speak English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► yeah yeah i think there aren't they either gender Germans yeah so pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► metal yeah not so much for its good so what I it's one of those things where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2329">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► it's like if you don't announce if a tree if the tree was never announced and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► then it doesn't grow out of the ground doesn't make it sound so if Apple never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► announced a date for a march event can the date be moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► no not right they know i know i know i mean if you're if you're deciding when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► you're gonna have your birthday party and your kind of thinking about having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► on the fifteenth and move it to the 21st that's right until the invitations go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► out as a minha you know in your mind you moved it right but it's you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► shouldn't we shouldn't be talking about being right and the same goes for her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► changing the name of the phone that hasn't been announced yet from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► iPhone 5se to the 5 iphone SE change the name of the phone but anyway it's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► of scratches a lot scratching off the back of the couple weeks ago but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► don't they don't couple of weeks ago it leaked to through you know the usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► sources that Apple was planning a march event for this new 4-inch iphone and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► new ipad and I guess that the rumors say no major updates to the watch not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► what the second generation Apple watch but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► new bands and new bands i don't know what else that was going to be tuesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► March fifteenth and then i guess it was over the weekend was it sunday came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► I know it was only a legend but Kara Swisher it at recode broke the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► actually and then John pets kowski who usually gets those date things first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► season at BuzzFeed now it was about an hour later and said so too and that nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► it's uh it's going to be monday March 21st so it's it's not on a Tuesday it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► on a monday and which was stuck for me because I tried to do the right thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► i don't know i would let me just emphasize this right now I have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► nobody at Apple officially or unofficially as give me any indication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► of when this event is and on the other hand I've never asked and i would guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► that at some point in the next week or 2 i'll get an email with an invitation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► interstate please join us it town hall on whatever date but I tried to be smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► and based on the league i booked a book therefore so I had therefore the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► oh yeah oh you don't care for their i booked their hearing then now i always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► say i expect and again i don't know i just take guesses on these things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► don't know but i might fly out i always stay in san francisco even if I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► even if I know for a fact that the event is going to be in cupertino because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► it really there's not much to do down there you don't like the days and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► it's a freaking Christ a long time friend went out for that Mercedes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► talked about a while ago it was a very nice hotel it was fine but it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► you could be i mean there's just nothing going on and I friends in San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► so it's it's it's less it's more fun and it's a better trip if I just bite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► bullet and wake up and somehow find a ride from San Francisco to cupertino in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► the morning for the event then the the other way around then to try to put what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► is that what is that rise a half have her 450 it really very well my traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► it's well she probably more like an hour and I think you got you really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► kind of play it i never do the driving this so I'm actually not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► I think if you keep good traffic and you can get in the passing lane you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► can you can make it in 40 minutes maybe 40 minutes to an hour if you hit traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► it's you know good luck but I have friends up again friend of the chopin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► sereno is coming in for the same event and he's gonna have a car so I'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► hitch a ride with him at it's like part of it i mean you know this right Ne big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► part of the rules if you want to be on the talk show is if i ever need a ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► haha yeah I got and I don't take advantage of it very often i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2575">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► really brutally you can verify you want to show a lot of times and I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► once called you and said a multimeter the airport I need a ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► no i'm good i know i'm giving a ride to the Fonz's yeah probably on my credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► that's what I'm thinking right i think that the phrase some of my know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► anyway I is some of my dad I had already booked my airfare and so but I knew what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► I was getting into on my man I don't I you know I feel like it's sort of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► lost bet but I knew it was a bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► I just thought though in times past they give out the official invitation so late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► that if you book only when you get wake up in the morning and find the email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► that says here's the official invitation we're having a thing you end up paying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► lot more for airfare and if you book in advance and so I took the gamble that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► it turns out i'm actually going to hide here is the this is the episode where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► talk about the accounting of running during fireball turns out though i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► to pay to that's what so that's why you had right okay i had to pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► two-hundred-dollar change fee for both legs of the fight flight so there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► think well now you're out 400 bucks and guess what yeah this is shocking this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► really i know this is going to shock you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► american airlines in addition to the two-hundred-dollar change fee for each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► leg of the flight they charge you tax and service fees on top of that why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► be it so it's cut well first of all first of all it's horrible that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► to fly american airlines oh my god don't even get me started on it that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► what do you know the other that's really the worst part of the whole story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► but that's Tehran well Philly long story short philly used to be dominated by US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► I was our that's the story we're like the biggest US air hub and so usair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► acquiring airlines so its US air that bought American oh it was the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► around but they kept the American name because it's a better name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► okay okay okay okay okay and maybe America now has more flights American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► might have been the bigger airline but they were less profitable American was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► losing money and so usair bought them and and rebranded the whole company as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► American it was sort of an astronaut's about eight months where they like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► would be like going through light kiosks and it'd be like an American desk in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► US Air desk and show up at the US Air desk could you have a US air ticket and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► they're like go to American it's like all right I'm going to marry and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► ah but anyway they did they charge you a $MONEY service fee on top of the chi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► that's like it's like it is a run by ticketmaster exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► wait let me see that you sure here's your convenience fee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► how much did I pay for this thing about how many airlines you flown over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► I mean unbelievable night so it's like the tech it's kind of like the tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► industry for the most part I really there's a few that have stuck around for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► a long period time and there's a crap ton that came and went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► yeah I can't I can't even think of something i don't think i ever i was too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► before my time I never flew TWA and I fleet anyway I'd see that see that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► like that's like a childhood memories I mean that's like I'm a TWA reminds me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► flying where you got like cloth napkins and you got silverware in a plastic bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► and you had like a you know your dinner was like a lake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► salzburg you know and you had like if there was like a dessert salad I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► there were like four little tray little like holder things on your tray and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► flight attendants were all in uniform you know like real like they had hats on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► those were the days ah never end and there was also a smoking section and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► draw back there was a smoking section for you but you're used to it back them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► taxes and carrier imposed fees hundred and sixteen dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► I don't know why it's hard to tell them the receipt I don't know they might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► yeah I I don't know but anyway four hundred dollars plus the chant taxes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► fees i'm actually going to save money on the trip though because the hotels are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► so much cheaper in San Francisco the next week because the initial date that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► March fifteenth week is coincides with the game developer conference in san [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► francisco CDC and I my hotel was like five thousand dollars a night it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► like so much that I was really worried about Amy looking at MX like thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► that I got a room at the you know the four seasons of the ritz-carlton or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► something it's like all of the standard hotels that you know we've stayed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► four years and years and years and all these things are all sold out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► all the GDC is just insane because apples done this before they've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► mid-march events and it's coincided with GDC before and it's just insane John and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► I I mean it's like when you get used to be in every WTC or macworld or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► like that it's like oh yeah this is crowded as you know thousands of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► and I see a lot of friends GDC is like 75,000 people or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► it is like it's just absolutely nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► so anyway I'm actually saving money so my thanks to apple for their all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► I'm sorry I've I dive guide might want some of my best friends are game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► that's just a joke don't don't send don't send letters huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► I was a little as i was like monday why would they move it to a monday and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► turns out last year's event was on a monday to the mid march event that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► one that i missed because i had my eyeball was would have exploded if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► well so I i missed that one but it was on a money thing we were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► you're doing a road trip I hate that was it was it was under consideration and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► maybe I just drive cross-country know it but there with it but then the altitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2934">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► was actually it was like getting on an airplane is like oh my you need to stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► at stealing it no I need to stay whatever sea level i was at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► yeah so I need to stay like Philadelphia season which is very close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► I think you're gonna get a lower right i don't have to go or so yeah I guess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► don't want to go you don't wanna go higher i didn't know that well maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► maybe not maybe you could it would implode if you want lower it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► explode if you want yeah but like a like the train ride from filling in new york [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► city was fine because it's just it doesn't go up doesn't go down it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► a jersey but going through like the Rockies would have been a problem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► the going on an airplane was like oh my god your eyeball will expand it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► excruciatingly painful going like going up and elevation was like maybe nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► will happen but you know you don't really want to take a chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► yeah but well I mean anybody anybody who's flown with a cold knows something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► about that right i mean you know the effect that happens if you flown with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► cold which is horrible i mean you just like you're in constant pain I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► the same way that like the first time you've ever experimented with margaritas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► in your early twenties and then you wake up and you say I was it was it was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► times when you when you the first time you've ever told yourself i'm never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► ah it's that's what flying with a cold just like i did i'd only done I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► always gotten lucky in my life I don't get sick that much i'm pretty healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► and I've only i can remember a handful at times remember one time man my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► sinuses it just felt like it just felt like the dentist was going up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► through that through my I to get to my teeth like for the whole for our . but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► will Jonas goes generous goes to a fancy school right so I'm he doesn't get his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► and bring a Colton always didn't you gotta be hitting it anchors the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3055">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► school so we get me i don't think there's any difference at all but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► whatsoever kids are disgusting they're all disgusting it was absolutely no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► they really are now there's there's no difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► Jonas is pretty healthy though he's always I think he got it from Amy's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► more healthier or even healthier than I am I think but when he was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► kindergarten and first grade manage we're all getting sick all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► yeah yeah anyway I thought that the the Monday date was weird maybe they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► Monday anyway but the old drummer was for tuesday and but it turns out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► there's like a congressional this is a very long talk show digression turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► that there is a a edit some kind of thing in washington DC on tuesday $MONTH [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► the twenty-second involving the Apple FBI thing and so I think they some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► of right but they you know don't want to have product and introduction the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► day as that but now I saw today that Bruce was testifying tomorrow in DC so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► maybe there's like two different things and i'm not quite sure what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► there but there's a it's just yeah there are there are two different answers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► so what do you know what it is like tomorrow is testimonial i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► what the differences aight i read both of them but i can't i can't think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► what the differences I maybe the 22nd is an actual hearing or something I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► yeah I think he's just real maybe he's just I don't think his thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► necessarily public but i'm not positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► let's do with the and then the other the other thing is public is this like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► front of Congress right yeah that's tomorrow which seems like a real shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► although the public one is the public Inc public oh yes the one that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► already released an opening statement for ok that's the one where you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► parading before some grandstanding Congress people and you just have to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► lu lu sure say whatever they want to say right i think that i think it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► difficult day to be Bruce school tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► Tim Cook's dominic has done it I got AI remember like member he'd tear on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► taxes then which i think is is all at least at least the people who disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► with apples perspective on that I think that they actually have a leg to stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► on in terms and end you know it not that Apple is keep the people that people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► disagree with Apple have like yeah the people who say you should be you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► repatriate the money and pay your taxes that there's some ye some sense to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► argument it's not you're not arguing like a fantasy thing but i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► mean i think in a way they are i mean i think with the the argument about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► the iphone is what the long nights where exactly and there's whereas whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► that's not as ambiguous with the tax claim they were they are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► complying with the law it's just that the laws is letting them get away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► right exactly taxpayer right tax murder right yeah right well we'll collect all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► the taxes on way we wouldn't collect the taxes would be of some crazy company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► wanted to you know I don't know put a hundred billion dollars in an offshore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► account Ireland i'm going to keep a hundred billion dollars in oh how do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► how do we not think of that o.o that's because people in business wrote the tax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► law I can't help but think that Apple's not happy about and who knows maybe this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► March twenty second thing with brutal and DC will come and go and and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► will be tired of the whole FBI argument by them but i can't help but think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► whatever caused them to to change their date for this event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► it's not good news because i think even though it's a day before I think they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► rather have like a whole week of her what you called sunshine you know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► the news about Apple is this new iphone and the new ipad and i and maybe get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► people to stop talking about the FBI thing for a week and concentrate on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► product was now they've got 24 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► well yeah or maybe they think that whatever they're announcing is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► be good enough that they're can overshadow it a little bit or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► there's a chance of how I just think you can't you know that to show it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► like a show must go on situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► you know it is what it is and they obviously weren't prepared for this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► mean one thing we know about this whole FBI thing is that Apple was taken by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► surprise and Tim Cook said on ABC that he found out about it after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► president the press was notified about it before Apple was which is again not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► the FBI's proudest moment in my opinion but you know with somebody who is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► know Apple who is not a criminal suspect it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► yeah i like when you'd when tim cook at you know axes a little bit upset i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► rightly so that Apple found out about it through the press it's not like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► the subject of a criminal investigation they're supposedly apple green you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► trying to partner with the FBI did to do the best they can in this situation you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► know that they kind of got publicly sandbag so well we want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► guesses for yeah maybe when i take a break though and yeah i think our next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► friend of the show is a brand new sponsor first time on the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► first time I've ever heard and their company called Squarespace Squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► is an all-in-one service where you can build and host and design and create and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► are you sure you're pronouncing that correctly I don't have any notes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► pronunciation so I think it's alright it's we'll just have to go with ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► where got you i can't see it in front of me so I don't really just the two will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► go with your just the two words square and space pushed up against each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► and the website is squarespace.com alright so you go this is amazing I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3408">TS</a>]
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00:57:01 ◼ ► started before you even pay him so you can just like start building the website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► you're thinking about building and see if it actually turns out the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► want it and then you don't pay until later and they have all of these I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► it is when i say all of these I mean it's just an incredible number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► professionally designed templates and starting points for different types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► sites like maybe you're building a store maybe somebody else's designer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► to build a portfolio of their work maybe somebody else is just trying to build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► teaser page for like an upcoming appt and you just want one of those pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► it's just like one just the whole site is just one page and it just gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► like a teaser about what's coming in the service any of those things you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► in the squarespace you can host a podcast it square space and even you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► know have like an audio player and stuff like that so you can you know have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► the you know people can hit play right there on the webpage everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► that you can have a blog all of this stuff one surface they do the hosting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► it's not like you build the site and then they give you a bunch of PHP files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► that you have to go to a web hosting upload know that the squarespace that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► the the thing where you design it it's always easy way you do it right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► and then when you're done you just you know say go public and the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► you were making it that just is your website really amazing I've never heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► of anything quite like this so you get a free trial today at squarespace.com like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► I said it's a free trial you don't start paying until later when you do decide to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► sign up because you're like wow I got to keep this website i made it i got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► keep it just remember the code Gruber my last name GRU ber and you will get ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3504">TS</a>]
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00:58:34 ◼ ► that's like getting I don't know 36 days for free so just remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► squarespace com my last name Gruber is the offer code and it will save you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► bunch of bucks go check them out i think this company is is going somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► never heard of anything like it yeah so prediction what you want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► yes I don't mean I you know like I it sounds like i don't think i have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► thing I certainly don't have any other predictions other than what it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► like you know what we already talked about which is smaller iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► updated iPad and Apple watch bands and maybe I know maybe some faces or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► something which i just added I just made that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► well I did I'm I'm much more interested in talking about the fact that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► alright but that's it so we do know a lot where we think we know a lot thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► to scoop kerman we don't know everything and there's some interesting questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► in there so one of the things is that the the rumor and that you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► other sources for this too including that analyst he's got good sources over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3591">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► I mean something to you yelling to quo as back this up to that the phone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► going to have the a9 system-on-a-chip maybe underclock maybe not clock quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► as fast as that on the iphone 6 and success in six-plus but same generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► cpu as today's top-of-the-line iphones same generation least what but so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3615">TS</a>]
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01:00:42 ◼ ► it'll have the year old touch ID sensor that's looks exactly the same but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3642">TS</a>]
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01:00:53 ◼ ► even though because i heard all of these are people complain about i still get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► that I key i still that button is so much more convenient to just wake up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► phone and look at the lock screen like the problem is that made apple has made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► the lock screen so much more useful now that it shows like your most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► notifications that I want to see the lockscreen a lot and they've made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► impossible to get the lock screen using your your thumb on the touch ID button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► so anyway I would even call that a downside but i'm wondering why don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► i'm wondering if I did I mean I our friend Albert complaints about that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3688">TS</a>]
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01:01:37 ◼ ► can use the side button or if you use the tip of your thumb instead of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► flat part you can get it to do what you want to write it'sit's I don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► lot of patience for that it's it's not my strongest complain again stop this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► my Porsche is just it's just this card too fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► good-looking I know my god nobody makes me like terrible i like terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► standing next to my Porsche ever nobody ever shuts up about how beautiful that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► that's terribly annoying huh i'm curious and then this story that hasn't leaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► yet like what type of storage capacities is gonna have is I think that it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► to get have a couple of options you know and we had a hundred dollars apart but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► that I had hurt i well I one point I had seen 1664 that light which is I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► what most of them go round well don't do 1632 don't know that don't know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► no been talking about writer years right right that's the terrible ending but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► they won't have to wonder what they're gonna do that jerky thing that they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► the rest of them drive 16 and 64 makes a lot of sense i'm guessing and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► other big question is how good is the camera going to be and you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► that's the sort of thing that it's yeah you know the the yeah i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► understand that that's important i mean that's important for lots of people it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► not important for me because I had to keep saying this but I feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► camera surpassed my ability to take a good picture like with three generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► ago so I'm happy going back to what I mean certainly the lake if it's the sips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► I'm perfectly happy going back to that even if it's like the 5s I'm happy going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► I mean the only thing i think i would miss is 3d touch which I have come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► rely on a little bit but I think for to get a smaller phone i will actually i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► will actually be willing to give that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► yeah its interactive can't wait to see how they do this and how Apple portrays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► the camera like both i'm most interested in how the camera actually is of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► but i'm very interested to see how Apple talks about the camera and the ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► it's you know what's good about it and how do they position it compared to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► iphone success and success plus which by all accounts and but just by common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► sense because they're almost certainly more expensive have a superior camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► it's going to wind up my guesses that it's it is its own camera you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► it's not like they took the camera from the blank iphone and stuck in this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► you know that this device is different enough from anything that's come before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► it that it's got its own camera and where it falls on the spectrum is in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► some degrees technically measurable and in other ways is subjective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► yeah i mean you can take a side-by-side picture at the exact same lighting from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► the exact same spot and then compare the resulting files and look for things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► noise and you know how you know how bright it looks in low lighting or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► something like that but in other ways you know it's like it's like you said a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► lot of ways it's just it it long ago surpass most of our abilities you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► like there when the the shot with iphone campaign started a year ago when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► best phone was the iphone 6 there are people who shot photos are way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► than any photo I'm ever gonna take in a million years with the with the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3897">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► 15 you know what I mean like like 10 years from now when the cameras are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► absolutely amazing i'm never gonna take a picture as beautiful as the one that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► that Apple chose to put on the billboard that were taken with the iphone second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► last year I mean that people take some amazing photos with those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► what's making you think that you're going to do you want the phone and we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► talked about i just--that's just yeah just the size i mean i i've been i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► been unhappy with the the size of the 6 and 6s all things considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► and maybe even like up to again to bring up the year anniversary date up to 13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► months ago I would I wouldn't hesitate i would be waiting in line to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► orange phone I've got here I have one on my desk I just keep it here to make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► sad i have my iphone I'm yeah I've actually yeah I have my of my regular i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► have my iphone 5s right here and now I've got my hand and I'm in love i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► the way this device filled in my head my big thing sometimes it's sometimes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► pick up a foreign think man that's really nice to expect to really love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► feel of this from my thing is with my my vision the combination of I've got one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► is really running into the mid forties presbyopia and like I need reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► glasses and so the bigger size of the other one but on the other hand I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► thinking to myself I don't run my six in the big screen mode you know me make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► this that ya never never do I and my eyesight's going to so I wonder maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► i'll beat you know I'll see last you know but I was always fine with that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► know like and most of all honestly tell you the truth what I read on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► is Twitter so the fact that you don't see a lot of once it's fine because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► whole suite is always there and you just sit there and flick your thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► yeah yeah dinner what the what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► the one thing I the one thing I do like about the 6s is health community you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► know apart from the way we talk about the lock screen thing but in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► well in this should have the same thing right because it's got even if it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► understandably underclocked a9 it still should be way faster than even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► iphone 6 and I think a lot of the things that the iphone that the a9 makes feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► fast like you just don't wait for it stuff should all i would guess we'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► yeah and maybe yeah i mean even if its underclock maybe the smaller screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► yeah exactly because there will be fewer pixels to push so some anything that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► like graphics constrained you know it's going to be easier everything should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► I'm just holding this phone here and the thing that just it just strikes me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► there's a reason why I never dropped one of these and i have dropped I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► dropped my suggest I've never dropped my success but I did drop my six last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► twice to drop some broke both times i have not I have been lucky enough not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► drop it but I feel uneasy about it all night but this feels like the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4075">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► phone that you can you know you just walk around anyway you just walk around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► with the phone in your hand you know don't worry about it it's never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► me I mean it's you know I think people all everybody has their own set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► parameters that they want to satisfy and I mean some people would rather have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► a large phone and maybe not have an ipad i mean it seems like there's probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► lot of people which is maybe why the iPads and doing is why I think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► huge part yeah i would rather have a small phone and a big ipad right yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► think that for some people maybe they don't buy ipads because it's again I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► already got my macbook air or whatever I walk around with all the time but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► definitely think that that for a lot of people i know i know that's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4120">TS</a>]
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01:08:46 ◼ ► Twitter an awful lot of people who especially the plus users who are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► this is my ipad you know I read books I don't you know I don't need it I'll and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► it's so great you know and this is an argument we've had ever since there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4136">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► power book first came out is and it's gotten so much better over the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► with dropbox and stuff like that but that the trade-offs between having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► multiple devices versus one device right if you've got this one device you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► know it's already there tonight and for however much the cloud you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► dropbox or iCloud documents and all that stuff has gotten easier and it continues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► to get easier you know and I map for email instead of pop for email and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► these things that keep stuff so that you can keep multiple devices in sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► if you just have one device you just know it right and you get any inside you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► you almost like you get like that muscle memory if you spend all of your time on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► one device it's like you get faster and faster and you don't even think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► yeah used to be used to be a big decision . between whether you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► fast laptop or you got like a slow laptop and a fast desktop right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► yeah yeah used to talk about that on the show in the old days along all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4194">TS</a>]
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01:10:04 ◼ ► it both ways and they were always do was the trade-offs are so complicated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► and it was so hard to make that decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► yeah and i feel i'm in for the most part now I've just been relying on old fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► fast laptop but not super sexy like you know I went into the kind of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► problem that i wanted to play fire watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► and it would not planet doesn't play on my laptop and I didn't have a ps4 her so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► I eventually I had to play it i played on my son's computer so i had a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► that was the fastest computer and then i had to buy a ps4 yeah I thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► that for a long time and then I'll suddenly hit me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► wait i could use pistons computer did you like Firewatch I didn't like finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► let's come back to move it yeah remind me and yeah i don't think i've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► about on the show I talked about it with the Polsky on his show but I didn't talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► about here I don't think so that it also brings us though to the ipad the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► iPad pro which is supposedly coming that the replacement i guess or the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► generation of what we now know is the ipad air scoop government says they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► going to call it the the ipad pro and then just put like parentheses 9.7 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► which in addition to the fact that you know coming government's record is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► pretty good and it's getting closer we get the more likely that these that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► leaks are accurate i think it it passes the common sense test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► yeah i guess i mean i guess so i mean i don't think i dont it doesnt sound of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► that Apple has every release the product that fails the common sense test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► regarding its name but in this case I think it makes sense that the ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► is an ipad that you know what are the features of the ipad pro 4 speakers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► at least you know stereo speakers I think you have to have for that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► you're you can otherwise you can't turn it around sideways and still have it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► stereo so you know no more just one big speaker it's four speakers you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► I don't know what else like the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► oh yes yes yes and the the little thing on the side the new the Newport for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► smart keyboard yeah that's the big one right and any ipad that has those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► is an ipad pro and you just pick which size you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► yeah i mean if they're putting those things in that it doesn't make it any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► sense to call the ipad air even if it's the same size and you know the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► argument is just called the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► but then you don't really get that sort of branding effect of like but it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► all these other things that go along with the ipad right i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► difference and so for example and obviously the macbook shows that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► is willing to just have a you know product that is without a modifier no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► adjectives just the product you know the family name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► I think the difference is that the ipad pro has these flagship features again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► whatever size ipad pro is the big one that we already have or this new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► that's supposedly imminent but it has the smart Keyboard adapter it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► pencil support that these things make it a pro where's the the macbook doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► really have anything except that except it's extraordinary weight and size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► I didn't mean to be that dismissive of it but you know that there's no there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► no thing that the the macbook does that you you know that you would call a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► no certainly not if anything it's the opposite of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► not that this is not a bad now that it's a bed so maybe and IMA just saw one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► the first time I die I did not get like a review unit or anything of that so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► i've i've never had I've never had used one except in a store and we were in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► apple store the other day and any saw for the first time so what the hell is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► she obviously didn't really I think she'd heard of it but she really hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► realized like and she said it like but it was it was it was both with disdain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► and kind of like impressed like this is amazing but why would anybody buy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► thing I just buy an ipad that was her take what people want a keyboard and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► was with this keyboard sucks and I was like well that's you know that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► I our family keep people where where I everybody in the family you're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► hard cookie we're pretty hardcore and on the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► we're not like that we're not like I I i tried to I mean I've used that keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► and I would easily switch to that keyboard and I would i like that device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► and like the trackpad and I would but I hoping that the next one will be at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► least a little more powerful and and I maybe have have another pie thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► could I think it'll be a huge upgrade i think that I guess gotta be so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► faster i think that i think the first one was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► about putting a flagon that stick in the ground saying this is how thin like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► these things should be and now they've got a year to actually get the text to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4494">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► yeah but anyway cuz ya myself i am i've got a 10-inch is a 10 or 11 i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► remember that the small air 11 and yeah okay lemon and I've had a 2012 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► so I'm kind of your push holding out I thought I really thought about buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► buying a new computer in the fall but I thought ya go see what that next macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► is gonna think the next macbook my I don't know anything about it I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► suspect that it's gonna be very compelling especially if you can get by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► with the keyboard i could i'm sure i could adjust to the keyboard any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► hardware keyboard i could get used to it if I mean you're not gonna you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► gonna use the keyboard at home anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► no no but sometimes when i'm using I obviously do most of my writing in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► desk with my big old quickly collect keyboard but when I am traveling know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► sometimes I actually have to do a lot of writing like a moral your state your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► steam . the only reason I'm i am traveling most half the time is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4556">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► I have something to write about because it's a apple event or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► yeah I a big question that people have we have to get to it is what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► pricing on the ipad pro gonna be the new of this new smaller one is it going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► be as in the ballpark of the expense of the big one another and then therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► meaning that they would and and Tim Cook's apple i mean it is obvious this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► is obvious to anybody would pay half attention to the company one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► difference in Tim Cook's apple and Steve Jobs Apple is that Tim Cook's Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► keeps the older ones around longer as opposed to wiping the family clean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► saying how you like the you like the ipod mini now we don't make it anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► yeah i mean it was the most popular then we made a single axis the most popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► yeah but we took all day like that guess what we actually had a bunch of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► left and we dump them in the pacific ocean because that's how much as how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► much I like this I ipod nano better write that was steve jobs i did it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► think it's almost certain that the ipad air 2 will stay around in some way at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► sixteen gigabytes and it's some kind of in a lower price point I i would why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► would be flabbergasted if they don't because it would be so out of character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► for Tim Cook sample the question now is with the the big ipad pro that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► that's already out the 12-inch one the 13-inch whatever it is it starts at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► but Boyd you know that's the 32 gigabyte one of Wi-Fi if you want cellular you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► up to 1079 428 gigabytes and those are your only options on the the existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► ipad pro you have just have three to choose from 32 that's Wi-Fi only 128 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► with Wi-Fi only or 128 with Wi-Fi and cellular so in some ways it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► commendable because it's a lot lot simpler product matrix then a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► apples other products but on the other hand boy that you know i'm not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► sure how much less this one will cost if the only difference is the display and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► does that leave a hole in the lineup and where the main you know people who want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► to spend five or 600 bucks on an iPad are still buying the ipad air 2 lots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► lots of people on Twitter asking me what do I think this thing is going to cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► and I really don't know I'm terrible at i'm terrible at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► yeah it seems is the base ipad still 16 for the the air let's see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► well they still stuck my friend talking about yourself right now they still sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► yes so 60s 16 is the is the five-hundred-dollar ipad air 2 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► friendly advice and what they say yea that's right there 1664 120 they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► iPads and if you just look at the compare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► i mean i-i guess I did I'm almost sure i would hope that the very least they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► gonna get rid of the ipad air one that's gone and they'll just have to ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► mini's the mini for in the mini 2 and all these different configurations tenia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► it did I don't know is it a previous in current is this a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► I don't know I guess I I would maybe suggest just weird i don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► like well I mean I clearly I've had some problems but I don't think of no the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► fact that there's an ipad air know and it's easy to get started either like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► you walk in the store and you don't know which one to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► it's easy to get started by saying well which size one do you want and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► people can start by saying well I just I want this size and then from there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► so it's already simplified dramatically and the picking between the colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► that's that's not a complicated issue and that's just that's easy right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4796">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► you just know which one you like better and you pick it that doesn't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► count that like if there's three colors available . that is tripling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4804">TS</a>]
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01:20:15 ◼ ► who's getting an ipad is that what do you get the Y fire to get the Wi-Fi and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► cellular that to me is a really tough one and when family members asked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► advice I don't have a problem with that happen because I mean I because to me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► would just use tethering right from your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► yeah so i don't i never i will never buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► I mean I and tell a cellular capable I've had again problem i do i buy them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► because Amy does the same thing that we both have AT&T iPads and we have verizon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► oh that can be yeah i can see that i arrived and I should keep track of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► though i have found though it anecdotally in the last year i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► that little fewer and fewer times do I need to worry you know that the verizon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► signal at airports and stuff like that is good enough that I don't find myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► doing that but well I've always found horizons coverage to be better than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► so if I were to do it i would probably can't even do this would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► verizon phone which is what I already do and then team yeah i would get at it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► i get a new I next time i buy an ipad if I do get sailor I'm gonna buy t-mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► instead of ATM because then you do like you're in downtown someplace you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► like wicked and you also feel like you're giving your money to a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► that actually maybe you feel good about giving some money too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► yeah I kind of regret that I didn't switch my phones to tmobile and at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► point what that well yeah and you guys are downtown like you're in a year in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► pretty well covered area we I i wrote a i did a review of phones last year for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► or I'm not sore not phones of percentile cellular providers in the Seattle area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► and so for tom's hardware and so they sent me all these phones and I drove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► around and try to different areas and tmobile came up the best so I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► oh I maybe we should have tmobile but not in our hands and said that was ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► that was the problem it downtown Seattle it was crazy fast it was fantastic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► no couldn't get a signal I mean couldn't get a good soil so here's the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► lineup of the iPads now so the Wi-Fi once go from 400 to 700 and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► expands the gamut from ipad air one with only 16 gigs up to a hundred and twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► eight gigabyte ipad air 2 can they just replace can they do an ipad pro at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► 9.7 sighs that's in this 500 600 700 dollar range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► I don't know it's I think they want it's a big I think it will be i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► guess here's my guess and you know it's worth what you're paying for is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► 16-gigabyte ipad pro no I don't think they'll do it i don't think they'll do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► you know you don't think so that if one oh that's right that's right now i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► that i actually came up with this earlier and I did that misstating I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► thought 32 will start a 32 at six hundred and then it will do 64 at seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► hundred and then eat her maybe they'll do like the other programs just jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► right to 128 I don't know that's a big gut that's a big jump though maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► want to have those hundred dollar increments because that jump in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► jump is 250 bucks so with the the big 13 inch iPad pro it goes from 802 950 if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5020">TS</a>]
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01:23:58 ◼ ► every price it goes from 802 952 go from 30 to 128 so it's only a hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► fifty dollar gap when you go all the way from 32 to 128 can aid can they go two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► hundred dollars by going 32 64 128 it seems weird that the bigger one could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► could go from 32 to 128 for quote unquote only one hundred fifty dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► but then the 9.71 would go in hundred-dollar increments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► I don't think that 9.7 will go well I think maybe it won't go to 128 right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► well they are but the idea will be thrown it will be 30 to 60 know the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► air 2 already goes to 128 you know but that'll get it over with yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► know who knows I may be that maybe the simplified just go 32 128 I don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► hundred and fifty our jump in there and then if you want a 16-gigabyte ipad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► you just buy the air to right by the air to you know I think pro definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► starts at 32 bits and it's totally yeah and again and it's such a big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► self is around like eight gigabytes or something like that like the usable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► space difference between 16 32 is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► it's just trim it it's way bigger than the numbers alone make it seen ya and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► now you get a special edition 342 device right but but I've been being 64 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► most everything now and that's been great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► whereas for a while I was struggling with 32 i could get by with 32 even I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► it's it's hard now yeah because there's certain you know there's somebody I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► don't even play a lot of games but a handful of games or hate if you load up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► on movies for a flight or something like that 60-64 is the sweet spot for me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► an ipad where 564 I don't think I've ever gonna run out of space and if i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5155">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► I think there'd be some kind of you know i can delete like the whole season of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► mad men that i already watched or whatever and there's something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► can delete to easily free up the space and I just don't have to worry about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5167">TS</a>]
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01:26:17 ◼ ► to hold aggression about it but for me at least the the way that iCloud photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► library works and that you just download the files when you need him and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► don't have to use its it's like I feel like I can get all my photos on my iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► and I don't have all the space taken up with all my photos on my iPad it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► you know i hate to say it but it's a service that Apple really nailed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► know does what it does what it claims to on the 10 here's a weird one has to i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► still use it here so we're on the ipad the ipad air and this is so weird the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► ipad air the one Airport air one if you get the Wi-Fi only model or either model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► the two sizes are 16 32 and they're only separated by 50 bucks like really 399 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5217">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► 494 49 and in the cellular one last 5 29 2 579 like it for the two don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► ipad early a better yeah they want yeah okay it's like me and for 50 bucks just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► get rid of the 16 gigabyte you know I mean I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► yeah i mean they must there must be where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5241">TS</a>]
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01:27:28 ◼ ► same time they're not selling as many I'm right and it's not even a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► other office maybe they are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► maybe they are doing the wrong thing just 50 bucks I so the ipad so ask the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► big question is how one of the new ipad this new iPad pro that's only nine point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► seven inches what is it gonna cost is going to be a hundred dollars more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► the comparable air tools right now because it's got all this fancy new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► stuff i don't know well the other thing any other thing is I probably wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► be a hundred dollars more because i just bought an ipad air 2 for you and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► which is to perfect would also like to have it have like a sharp edge that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5277">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► gives you a nasty paper cut and shocking getting shocked everyone soil and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► only gets two hours of battery life and it runs extremely on it i'm pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► that's exactly what's gonna happen right this is what we're releasing its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► februari because it's it's it's a lot warmer it will keep people warm i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► they're releasing in March I don't know March EMR system will be marched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► tomorrow yeah but not yet when we record it when we were him I saw think the date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► is a record of will probably never recorded on leap taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► that's right and we'll record podcast again but it's you know it seems right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► yeah it's not the chances are slight the chances are pretty slim that you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► will ever record on leap day again and a Monday and Monday night is not also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► unusual it is a little bit uh I saw something today that said i guess i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5333">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► should write to stand and put in the show notes see if i can find it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► that births go way down on leap day and not just see sections where you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► think that there would be some control because a lot of times when one when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► mother has a c-section you can kind of plan it and you can be like I will do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► yeah but even natural births even vaginal births go down on leap day which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► would suggest that well there's I mean I third supposedly like little things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► you can do and apparently that is and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► the the graph is it's not subtle it's that's really really serious yeah cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► like my sister lot i remember you know like I think one of the kids was late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► and the doctor said go home and have a glass of red wine but it's suspected she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► did and like 24 hours later Nick I would you mind having a leap day birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5392">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► I mean I don't know what I mean what are you gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► well i think that was left over a lot i mean as opposed to and if I if I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► choice is to have one or not i would say i would rather not but um I like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► son's birthday is just a few days after christmas which i think is is lousy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► there is a bomb it's a bomb dreamies is a handful of days before Christmas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► trust me I've heard that it is a bum sees that she's in a bum . on christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► is just the way that they do it I've always is the way they do it is if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► birthday's februari 29 you celebrate on the other years you celebrate on march [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► first and I get me that's the thing and as a kid that always I i see the logic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► of it where your birthday is the day after februari 28 but I could that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5452">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► of the things that I think puts a sour taste in people's mouths with a leap day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► I would I think it would make more sense to celebrate on februari 28 and say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► your birthday is the last day of februari because to me part of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► birthday is the month you know like are you a march person you October person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► you are you a December person oh you near Christmas you know it's the month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► matters and so even if you're at like the last day of the month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► it's like you're you feel like you're februari birthday person right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► that's how the yeah isn't that how the old horoscopes were people still do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► well sure some people are but that's about what its like the cutoff date is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► it's like so like what all of a sudden you're not a pisces anymore now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► whatever the hell is well I guess when it's someone that you were born and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► just feel like it it it changes that it changes the feel on that I guess in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► general i guess i'm glad i wasn't born on februari 29 I think people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► yeah you know I think people are pulling shenanigans not that have a baby on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► day I don't know about that you're glad you're glad your birthday but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► think anybody should should well you should avoid it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► yeah that's typical accidentally that's that's typical i've got i got me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► thinking I got my birthday that occurs every year rested its februari 29 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► the rest of you suckers and I ride I might have mentioned this on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:35 ◼ ► before have I ever told you about the time like a lot mrs. birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5555">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► no I don't think so for web stock two years ago three years ago last time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► always yes yes yes the end because he because he flew around the show good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► personal friend of Michael up was going to website i was going and Michael op [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► got on an airplane and in California the day before his birthday and flew over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► the Pacific and got off the plane in New Zealand the day after his birthday 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► minutes and Jonas came with us that trip because it coincided with a good the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► fall break for school or spring break for school and and and Jonas was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► astounded just absolutely positive as I got was like eight or nine at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► just astounded that something that this could happen to you but you you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► lose your birthday you get your kid however much you love your birthday you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► know throughout your life when you're a kid your birthday is a national holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► you mean it's you're getting you're not getting cheated out of you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► last Snickers you know you're getting cheated out of a goddamn birthday and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► came back and then it was like you come back and it's like you gotyou know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► guess you miss like we it was like there was he had a bunch of days off but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► still missed it there to school in it so it's like you know what you do on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► trip and whatever and the whole discussion was about my dad's friend who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► lost her birthday and it and every one of his friends are like it was it and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5635">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► the teacher was like I had the international date line and like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► got out of that they have like a little thing in school and then I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► learned how it work and his class just like this is a courageous you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► it was like the civil civil rights issue of the third grade is absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► outrageous that this man lost a birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► they're having it they walked out of school that day had a sit-in outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► kept my get Michael Loftus birthday think it is however thing though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► really hurts my head when I think about it I the International Dateline it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► I i tried it i understand it enough but it's like it still seems like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► should have been some point where he was somewhere where it was his birthday but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► that doesn't make it is but it doesn't make it he said but it that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► no you can miss look and see what happens you come back and you get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► extra day like you'll get like to but not that no you don't you don't get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► pick up that you don't forget to redo I want my extra day to be last Friday but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► you don't get that what else what else is supposedly coming for this event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► Apple watch straps and stuff strand that seems like good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► do you have it you have a multiple straps we do have you don't worry over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► you famously don't worry you're watching where some days i do i know i read know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► i read the only 1i have you must be mistake i have the space black link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5728">TS</a>]
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01:35:42 ◼ ► actually find that ok by metal bracelet the most comfortable but i have two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► the four elastomer ones i have the black one which i bought 1a when I order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► watch and i bought the orange one when they came out with new new flavors last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5754">TS</a>]
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01:37:20 ◼ ► wrist because it's obviously you know even yeah even you yourself your wrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5840">TS</a>]
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01:37:43 ◼ ► watch strap or a bracelet nice bracelet is other things and it's you know how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5863">TS</a>]
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01:38:21 ◼ ► don't want to work out in my leather band but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► where the apple watch my workout so I just quickly switched back to the floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5903">TS</a>]
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01:38:54 ◼ ► you know the people who are the biggest producers of other people coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► the watch world where they're like in some ways Apple really say what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5936">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► about the functionality of the watch itself leave that aside but in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► some certain things like making bracelets in the design and switching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► and stuff like that they just showed that the Swiss industry had been asleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► at the wheel for decades because they really haven't really you know like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► top-of-the-line watch strap from 1981 is like indistinguishable from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5956">TS</a>]
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01:39:26 ◼ ► really good chance that you're going to shoot the little metal spring thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► across the room when you start to lose it right it's a that's horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► or like on a link bracelet on a switch most you know a relaxer amiga or tag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► shower it don't just need a little tool you need like a special screwdriver that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► you actually have to have like you really ought to use like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► certain kind of glue it that you want to put in there when you put it back in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► like to take a link out to resize it and then you put the screw back and you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► to put forward to call it's called like loctite or something like that but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/5996">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► like a jeweler's glue that will it's just enough so that it's never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► come out when you don't want it but if you eventually want to resize the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► again or put the link back in its not so tight that you can't get it out or strip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► the screw it's like perfectly well who the hell has that right so you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► to get the thing resize you're off to the jeweler you know your local corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► yeah so anyway I don't know what the way what so what they were they were the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► of the rumors was about a nylon right that they would have an island right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6026">TS</a>]
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01:40:36 ◼ ► watch with a nylon band very comfortable in my opinion yeah that's what I work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► for years before i got the apple watch so yeah I'm curious to see how Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► does the connection to the watch on that one though because i feel like the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► that I've seen so far they don't quite look right because it's just the nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► of the the connector to the watch that they just kind of didn't quite look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► right with just like a a bar sticking out of the bar the bar yeah yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6056">TS</a>]
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01:41:06 ◼ ► but I don't think Apple we have it something with the leather ones at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► bars don't they don't look at other places with a nylon strap I think his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► letter is typically a little thicker and it it pads out a little and where's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► nylon ones are you know that makes the bar shoulder yeah yeah yeah it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► somehow the the interplay between the thickness of the strap material and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► bar just doesn't seem as right to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► I don't know how they're going to do it that like what are they going maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► just you know Jeff Williams comes out and talks about how many you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► millions of people are using health kid and great new apps from these airlines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► and people are dapple paying with their watch 10 million times a day or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► and then here's some new bands and get off the stage which is sort of I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► what he did in September although they also had apple will be you know the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► to the apple watch os/2 to show whereas i don't think anybody is expected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► watch us so no and maybe they have something in secret some secret new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► feature just so they have something in them out but not quite sure it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► well new faces would be nice and that seems like something that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► simple to do and let's and I that's i'm completely right that's a good idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► and start something that's something that if thats and what the version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► number would be watching us 2.1 or whatever that they could be they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► have been working on in secret and it's you know no surprise that they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► leak is this enough there's my question I keep thinking that after i spent all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► this money to look at every point is it isn't enough to join invited the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► that you well is you know it's it's a phone that is in I then there's leaks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► the case too and I think it looks interesting it's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► combination of the straight sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► the curves and they got rid of the Sham furred edges and have just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► rounded edge seems like an interesting case design but fundamentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► technology-wise it's a phone that has nothing new right it's a size we've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6177">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► before a basic shape we've had before the camera technology that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► it's beneath the cutting edge of the success and you know a screen that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► seen before and a nine stones chip which is great that it's the current model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► year but guess what we've already had you know we've had these funds for six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► months with a nut and then an ipad that is the exact same story it is this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► know everything that's new and novel about it was in the 13 inch iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► that we have had since november right so how do you do how do you do what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► do on stage to talk about these things right like here's this thing that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► exactly like what we announced in September but smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:40 ◼ ► that's a tough event like and then what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6220">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► here's what new watch straps at that seems like a tough of that even if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► you know and at one thing about apple and I say this and I really mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6232">TS</a>]
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01:44:03 ◼ ► fit than a coach seat in there . if they only have 48 minutes of stuff to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► about don't have a 48-minute event and maybe you know a five-minute video right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► but they're not going to keep you there for two hours if they don't have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► hours of stuff I just don't know what else they're gonna do i mean i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► some people are wondering hoping sort of maybe that maybe there's new macbooks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► I don't know that how that aligns though with like what Intel is putting up Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► meeting the cpu company right right yeah I can't think of any other shoe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► in the air that is ready to drop at this point it's like it i wonder how close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► if this if there's nothing else that's coming i wonder how close they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► internally to doing it without a an event and just having you know giving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► to people you know review units you know in private briefings like they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► yeah and you know maybe there's something else or maybe they you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► they feel like this is good enough to you know maybe for reasons that escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► me and our not obvious to me maybe there's something there's some message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► they have to give that actually you know makes for compelling event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► oh the wasn't or a an update to Apple music coming too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6315">TS</a>]
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01:45:29 ◼ ► i mean i don't know that either but i but i had heard there was a bypass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► there's an update coming and that supposedly much more understanding pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► it out and there was a podcast that any q's on where he said that there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► update to the remote app for the appletv forget the cholas yeah i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► don't i don't listen to podcast i have if they want to just sort of do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6348">TS</a>]
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01:45:57 ◼ ► you know things big and small but little improvements were announcing to all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► our stuff if they want to run through apple TV you know demoing the new app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► that lets you use your phone as a full-fledged you know apple remote yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► well and maybe maybe they have some third-party thing that's tied in right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► right i would be surprised at all if that Eddie Hughes hint that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► coming is a march event thing because you know it just gives them something a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► demo like so at least announced at least they would announce it and say when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► raining but if they had like in a game or something like that were if two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► players need to remote now there's a solution to it because one of you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► use your phone and the other one can use a remote was that just a few weeks ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► ya know I can't think so yeah number which also getting he said three months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► I thought he said a few months honestly ok so maybe not i mean he say he said 3i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► thought he said three but it was kind of like just like tossed about me not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► you know he was not i don't think that date was necessarily supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► indicate that that's exactly what i was thinking he may be does yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6418">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► I don't be made and / i really hope that he just made that up on the spot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btuz8w4Uk/6423">TS</a>]
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