00:00:00 ◼ ► this is episode this CL VI of the box already have to see LVN i CLD I mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/0">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► Roman numerals last I didn't listen to last week's episode you see you UMBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/9">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► talked about Roman numerals again huh yeah its ponderous i got on it i guess i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/12">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► gotta a rant because of the getting rid of the 10 and Mac os10 alright i I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/17">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► hated it all along I hated it right from the first version it's that I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/22">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► it any way you might have never liked ls10 as the name of the operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/26">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► now I just think that it was x.x is the coolest letter of the alphabet and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/31">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► was a way to put it but the coolest letter of the alphabet name but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/36">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► it's so cool half the people pronounce it OSX I did it I did it for years I I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/40">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► think i made a gesture keep a sharp one time when I told him how I got into mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► the PHP myadmin and done Universal Search to change all my OSX as one word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/51">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► 20 s SpaceX you don't want to tell a pearl user that's how you fix stuff on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/57">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► the internet you have the right side of my city is what I didn't feel so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/61">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► that was thinking how do I obliterate this um but isn't a conventional wisdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/70">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► he told me is up to the mac blogger it in the conventional wisdom that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/75">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► gonna switch to this kind of standardized way for mac OS is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/79">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► the only question is whether they're going to capitalize the m and mac OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/87">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► even though they themselves don't capitalize the eye and iOS or the W and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/91">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► watch Os or the T and T BOS they don't capitalize the tea in the v right and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/96">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► one gotta go I gotta go lower case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/106">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► yeah but that the counter-argument and there was like a unusual it seem like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/108">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► don't know if you know it just seems like an unusual mistake for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► make but they had like an environmental like they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/116">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► whatever the day is where you celebrate the world's environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/121">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► what's that called me before green day maybe birthday birthday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/125">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► yeah what's the difference Greenday on green day they they had at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/130">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► promotional page up and they said something blah blah blah and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/134">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► spelled it a mac OS with a capital M closed up i have another friend my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/137">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► friend Matt who said that this is going to bug him because he's like us goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/143">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► back to the old days of the classic mac OS where they called the OS mac OS but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/147">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► back then it was capital m.a.c space LS and and said in set in government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/151">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► yeah but you know when you'll be writing about it when you see publications that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► would mention it and spelled it closed up it was your spotting an error right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/164">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► right so the way that we think they're now going to spell it was a late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/169">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► nineties frequent a typo and now it's going to be apparently the real way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/173">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► think but the argument that they might capitalize it without capitalizing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/179">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► other ones is that mac is a registered trademark and ys TV and I yeah are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/182">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► well you know the other thing is for think about it for so long how you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/190">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► Matt was a you know that was a name that insiders mostly called it but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/196">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► it seems like you know it just ended up in the popular imagination macintosh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/201">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► apple for a number of years were synonymous which is going to drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/205">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► people crazy i know i know there are things before the mac but macintosh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/208">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► able to this stage on Roderick still calls the company mcintosh I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► because that's for a long time those were kind of conflated to be sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/214">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► same thing so mcintosh means something Mac means something but Mac OS I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/219">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► out that how much are they even know is a can of worms but you know the mac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/223">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► not the central pillar and what they're doing anymore it and that reflects its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/229">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► I think up was that the the other guy on ATP we talk about the the other guy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/235">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► not Casey yes down on their show last week they're talking about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/242">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► excellent new t-shirt designs you're the worst and I that's a great design i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/246">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► totally violence well I don't like the watch what watch one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/252">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► the the ATP apple / BMW M is brilliant for that show its it i mean it's I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/255">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► that design and I was like oh my god how did that not I i think they ought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/264">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► make that they're the logo of the show i mean it's it's amazing because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/268">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► whole gimmick where they the whole reason I even have the ATP show is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/272">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► they had a car podcast for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► it's a classic logo in that sense of being being very attracted to look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/277">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► looks kind of cool kind of retro but if you get the jokes it's kind of perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/281">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► right in his explainer though Casey described it as a reference to the six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/284">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► color mcintosh logo just to say that you know that you know the way that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/290">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► conflated apple with Macintosh was not the Macintosh logo it was it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/295">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► apple logo i think i think Josh siracusa pointed out that but that was an error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/301">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► this is you know you're getting into this territory where man you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/307">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► get into the you know the greater nerd syndrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/311">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► there's going to be always always gonna be somebody that know slightly more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/314">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► about this and it's slightly less interesting and how they describe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/316">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► just keeps getting worse and worse and worse it'll serve actually your quarters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/319">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► on the airport or represents remember her ever seen a rainbow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/323">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► oh thanks buddy super helpful i miss it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/328">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► I you know I still how long now has it been that what you know just gray or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/333">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► four wagons black apple but i miss it man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/341">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► when used to be when you bought a mac you got the bastards we started stickers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/344">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► but now the stickers are just white but the rainbow stickers are so cool and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/349">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► they're so I mean there so like they're so eighties but they're also seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/352">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► and they're kind of I don't know there's sort of like weirdly timeless and retro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/356">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► they still they've they've started slightly bringing it back a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/362">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► I i think they brought it back for the LGBT pride parade in San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/369">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► oh that's cool or else they did something that clearly referenced it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/377">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► know with the connection between the rainbow is a symbol for that community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/381">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► and and apple and then I think that they stuck it in a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/385">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► Marshall I i know they day I don't use it at least one because they had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/388">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► commercial where they showed people's beat-up macbooks with stickers on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/393">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► oh and they did a super-fast yes fast and and one of them was an old-school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/397">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► apple logo which was it was like whoa is a good you know a real geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/402">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► it was cool to see Apple put up a computer with the six color apple logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/407">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► again even though it was in they didn't like Trotsky it didn't disappear it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/411">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► still in a nightmare and I could've sworn there was another commercial this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/415">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► there's you know that shows what the live audience somebody would already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/420">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► have the link in there i think there was one where they ended it i don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/422">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► it was that one where they went through the apple 40 years and 40 seconds or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► what but they had a spot where they showed it i do miss it did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/429">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► it's an interesting time very interesting times funny always were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► watching the Warriors game the other night I was again that logo is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/437">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► those uniforms with what's the worst matter was like she's like what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/441">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► are you talking about that's totally their throwback retro girl was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/445">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► that's cool and kind of like that what's good news hope I kinda hate they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/448">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► and its really bad because they even used that what's that goof on to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/452">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► that like fake classy have to look out anyway I'd it's it's not a good logo i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/457">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► kind of like their colors I like the colors idea to get to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/468">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► oh yeah it's like it's kind of guys at a copper plate make a little bit a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/473">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► bit cop not quite copper plate but yeah it's copper plate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► yeah copperplate that's exactly the phone i'm thinkin that's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/481">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► fonts that I i used to use like when i first started started working in design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/485">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► because i thought wow this makes everything look classy now absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/490">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► it's like papyrus for men with the men's wearhouse suits you know used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/493">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► comic sans and now it's papyrus this is there are or you know full of mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/499">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► mistress fun like you know mistress fun if you like Guy Fieri at a beach bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/505">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► i'll roll mistral you know that's fine you know I mean the surface fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/509">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► yeah yeah I don't like but you know any know even copperplate fine you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/513">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► pickaway to have some fun with it but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► papyrus man piracy is the new comic sans if it's like a sign your spa or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/521">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► your menu of the day it's like it's always papyrus so with the warriors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/527">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► would be I would eat at how amazing is it that that photo of eddy cue with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/532">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► Stephan Stephan curry that was hot it was a delightful so perfect I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/537">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► was a wonderful image I want some nice shoes but he's wearing flip-flops it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/542">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► it's one of those images though where it's like uh I mean I'm not good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/547">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► haven't been into basketball for awhile used to be really into basketball but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/553">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► like the sport and I happened to find the style that Golden State place to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/557">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► it's a team that really has fun playing basketball and I used to play basketball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/562">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► I found the reason i like playing it is that i find that it is a very fun game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/566">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► to play especially if it goes right if you're moving the ball around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/571">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► everybody's getting the ball and and you're fast breaks and it's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/574">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► scoring and it's not just you know 27 foot guys slowly but surely backing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/578">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► their way to the basket it it can be a beautiful game and that's how Golden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/584">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► State plays and it's like watching a video game sometimes with these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/587">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► we're shooting from 10 feet past the three-point line and and just hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/591">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► nothing but net lots of fun to watch somebody I've really been into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/594">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► playoffs this year and of course I know who Eddie can do is I had him on my show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/597">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► even write and then here's the photo of the game of one of the most amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/601">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► games in recent NBA history and its ionic and what alright become an iconic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/605">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► yeah it really well and he's wearing flip-flops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/611">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► he's just better than 10 years a lot of presentations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/615">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► it's cool if I crash here for a couple weeks that's all right Eddie but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/619">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► know you gotta believe at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/623">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► here's my first night was my take on the flip-flops is first and foremost that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/624">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► understand it gets California thing and I'm not I'm an East Coast person we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/630">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► don't really you know grown men don't really wear flip flops out even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/633">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► just to a basketball game but i understand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► California is a little little more casual my take on it though is having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/639">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► been to a lot of events sporting events rock concerts etc at an arena type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/645">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► that the floor situation isn't all that great now I realize he had courtside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/651">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► seats and maybe they they make an effort to keep the spilled beer and soda to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/655">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► minimum down there at the courtside but that's my first thought is is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/661">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► kind of want some some waterproof footwear when you go to an arena [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/666">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► well first of all I mean it will you realize that wasn't that wasn't in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/673">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► Oklahoma get no no it was all across the rivers over there to sell it okay but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/678">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► mean you know the bay area is not California it's it's a different thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► and it's not a question of you know I mean it's one thing like you know live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/687">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► in pasadena or something like a look at me i don't have toes on my shoes it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/691">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► like here like man if you're walking around San Francisco do not want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/695">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► it's just so me when I want my daughters game we get ready to go downtown with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► daughter like I want to put her in a Tyvek suit like no I mean she's got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/704">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► she's gonna wear socks and shoes and let you know I want to put on some like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/708">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► it's like haha not good they're moving the I think they're talking about moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/712">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► the arena right near where my wife works which is very near AT&T Park here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/718">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► asked for a yes and like kind of across the street from a children's emergency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/723">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► hospital so she should be really interesting to try and get your kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/727">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► I don't watch sports I'm not into sports are I've been enjoying watching on slack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/732">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► talking about the total fantastic fantastic anecdote you probably won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► share here but an amazing anecdote about your basketball career that I i love you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/739">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► two share sometime i would share I'll share my story almost as okay i'd love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/745">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► to hear that one always shares it's like if you're gonna be somebody who watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/749">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► boy that was a great one to watch yeah because it reminds me a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/754">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► like how I you know there's time when I enjoyed watching tennis i'm not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► tennis fan but used to be you know the eighties you could really enjoy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/760">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► combination of like ace serves plus a lot of just insane volleying and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/764">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► feels like that got that we might talk about this before but it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/770">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► tennis eventually just become all about the aces and all about like the hidden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/772">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► super super hard and the PDF watching those two teams and the way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/775">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► complimented the way that the other plate is yeah you're gonna get this two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/779">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► guys def korean guy looks like Steph Curry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/783">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► we're gonna be dropping a lot of 3-pointers and that's amazing but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/785">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► it can also be Steph Curry like just here it's almost like he's moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/788">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► through a party and just like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/793">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► excuse me excuse me like you're like you know he's like you know I just need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/796">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► get by here for a minute boom layup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► ok how do you do that how do you move past all those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/801">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► fast-paced they got the long game throwing from from three points they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/805">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► going up for the lamps the teamwork is fantastic on both teams and you just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/809">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► just see these two teams that are so well-matched and are both operating at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/813">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► the height of their performance and it's a complete delight to watch he moves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/817">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► through the defense while dribbling the basketball in a way that i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/821">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► most athletic people could get through the same defense without the basketball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/826">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► just run just slip through these guys just get through them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/830">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► you sure if you give you sure somebody that pattern like with like Fred Astaire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/834">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► feet on the floor dance moves and said somebody go repeat what he just did five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/836">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► times there's no way somebody could do it it really i think it really and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/840">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► install it is always more impressive in slow-motion it really looks like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/843">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► kind of visual effects shot that you know Todd Vaziri put together you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/847">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► like hear stuff just run through this crowd and then I'll out you know we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/851">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► make sure we'll put the basketball in after you do it we'll do it and post it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/855">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► is composited yeah yeah likely you see one of those guys what's the guy's name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/859">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► i forget his name the other klay Thompson Thompson you had that montage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/864">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► to put up with great his 11 three-pointers but the crazy part is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/868">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► know i'm used to watching basketball in the larry bird era and when you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/871">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► these guys moving so fast passing so fast and you see somebody feat beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/875">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► the three-point line they've had the ball for about a quarter of a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/880">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► they take a shot and my friend me is all that's a shame throw away that shot at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/883">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► getting that did that you wish doesn't even touch the rim like what has become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/887">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► what is this game I don't even recognize this game anymore it's so much more fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/891">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► I think that what happened is that it's taken until now or even though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/896">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► three-pointer the three-pointer went into the NBA i think in 1981 or so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/901">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► like the later eighties and then in high school around the same time too so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/911">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► when i played high school basketball we had the three-point shot but it was new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/915">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► like the paint on the court in the high school gym was different color than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► rest of the court because it would be glad to pay a guy to come in at it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/922">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► the coaches are a an all-sports tend to be conservative they are you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/928">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► they they don't want to rock the boat and so it was always treated as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/934">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► novelty and you don't want to you know they'd always coaches are always tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/937">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► you know you don't want to win winner loser die by the three you or live or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/941">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► when was the only it must have seemed like a risky trick yeah and if you miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/947">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► two or three in a row coaches would be like that's it you know you know stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/951">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► shooting it because you're you know you're you're cold tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/955">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► whereas I klay Thompson the other night missed six or seven his first six or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/958">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► seven 3-pointers and just kept firing em up there and eventually they go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► because that's actually that's actually the way statistics work right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► did you don't really want to posted that image that was the basic the second half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/968">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► in shots you see that graphic and was like taking shots taking shots missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/972">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► oh no that was our our mutual friend Ben Thompson posting cat that's incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/977">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► yeah and just where they took the shot and just two different styles of play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/982">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► where Oklahoma City is not really it it actually a relatively poor three-point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/986">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► shooting team overall and and that the Golden State shot chart like this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/990">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► dots on the court of where they took shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/996">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► it looked like this is this looks like that the time and practice when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/997">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► practice our 3-pointers right right right when with nobody with nobody harms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► you know waving around so i think what happened is that it took until now to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► get coaches who grew up in the three-point era to really embrace it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► a it's okay to shoot it and in just you know to for your edification Steve Kerr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► the coach of a golden state was a wonderful three-point shooter he played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► college ball at Arizona I think he graduated this is I used to be a sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► fanatic and I can't even tell you when he graduated I think he graduated in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► 1988 and then he had a very nice pro career including playing with the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► Michael Jordan Bulls later and in the late nineties he was more or less the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► guy who like when Michael Jordan would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► double-teamed or even triple teamed Steve Kerr was the guy who's who's man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► probably left him to go double team Jordan and Jordan would just flip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► ball and he would knock down 3-pointers so I think having a coach who grew up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► the three-point era really makes the difference in terms of embracing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► I think I saw a stat the other day that and now Larry Bird in the eighties was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► think without question the best three-point shooter in the NBA but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► he Larry Bird is on record as saying he doesn't even like the rule he kind of he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► he's always thought it was a gimmick and that you know he'd shoot it because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► could shoot from that far but he always thought two points is good enough for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► anybody who or where I guess the mantra that a lot of the old-timers had was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► that I you shouldn't be able to lose with a two-point lead and you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► the worst you do is go to overtime and a three-point lead should be a sure thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► that if you have a three-point lead with with seconds to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► you could just walk off the court because that's it you're you that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► enough to win and then you can do you see real changes in sports I'm this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► actually this is a question not a statement we see rule changes in sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► just as a way outside observer it seems like they're often in the interest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► making it more interesting or speeding things up or closing some kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► loophole that makes the game less competitive and interesting given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► certain conditions that that kind of a fair statement like this without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► puncturing football it seems like that's really the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► yeah and a three-point line is definitely that sort of idea that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► a it was an answer to what was seen as an epidemic that the game was being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► taken over by seven footers who just you know just toss the ball into him down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► down low and watch them you know banging away at the Khal Drogo guy playing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► Oklahoma's pretty amazing though that that shot that shot the deck i made like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► he seems like it's about three feet off being able to don't get any somehow just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► getting in some amazing to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1162">TS</a>]
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00:19:41 ◼ ► a new thing that's for sale and sometimes they sell out because only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► have a limited number of them sometimes they don't and they're the same guys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► years ago how to cite called woot you could tell they even sort of the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► their stuff the same way except they were more excited back then they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► excited in the early days and they named it woot and now they've they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► beaten down by the man and they just call it matter because what happened is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► they sold route to amazon it did not go well and eventually like it got to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► point where we're under amazon and was selling multiple items a day and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► wood guys were like you know where we're a daily deal site the whole gimmick is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► we sell one thing that day and Amazon was like well we're amazon and we sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► everything and so they left and they started the side up again and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► call it math and it's great it is it's not just about the daily deals though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► the thing is they put it he got to read the descriptions they write for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► they're real writers and they put funny videos up its really like the daily-deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► thing is just an excuse for them to create the sort of content that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1239">TS</a>]
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00:21:16 ◼ ► what's their deal today this week too late nobody's gonna be able to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► because only by the time John Smith's meta too late because its first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► as we record this it is sold out but also it's a deal day you know that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► just going in reading for the writing is so fun they get the FoodSaver vacuum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► sealing system i'll be it refurbished i paid 80 bucks for this in a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► months ago I do lots of sous-vide cooking at home it's the second 22 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► here's their description you shouldn't use this to seal marijuana that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► legally buy in Washington Oregon and Alaska of Colorado so it's easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► conceal when traveling to or through other states of matter how ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► this matter how ridiculous you think it is for position of a plan to be legal in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► one state but illegal and others no matter how obvious it is that marijuana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► prohibition is on its last legs worldwide that would be wrong so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► you can get from them all right you want to tell me basketball story and would i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► I'm not embarrassed to tell the story III so when I when I was in high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► I played recreational basketball i was i was pretty good my senior year I scored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► 14 points a game and we had a pretty good team and I could shoot you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► my thing i don't like to mix it and what we shared was your position before her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► sort of like a small forward or maybe at all shooting guard it's you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► I've my own but I was good at good if you know passing on a fast break and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► scored lots of lamps on fast breaks and I was good at shooting three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► although i think the most i ever made the game was five or six it may be mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► because I played the christmas ornament one time and they had a thing in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► the like a school hosted like a little you know round-robin to Timor 14 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1375">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► Christmas tournament they had a little program and I had like are our christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► tournament records and one of them was four 3-pointers 44 like across the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► tournament and I broke it and then the next year they didn't put that record in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► because online they only printed it because it was one of their home team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► anyway there is a team in our county that we play a couple times a year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► there's a kid on the team who I'm guessing was born this way but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► could have been an accident but he only had one hand and I think it was his left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► hand and he was about my size and he was really was actually pretty good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► basketball and so because he was about my size i often guarded and I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► early on maybe like 10th grade maybe 11th grade we're playing a summer league [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► game and I was guarding them and he was posted me up in other words he's backing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► me down on the paint and so my chest is to his back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► and it all of a sudden I felt on it did that the number that we're at the end i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1434">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► can all just was sort of missing the hand and is his wrist ended with like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► little nub anything and all of a sudden I felt the nubbin in my hand and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► instinctively was just a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► honestly I was a little grossed out I took a step back and his teammate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► passing the ball and he turned around and made a layup because i wasn't right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► on his back anymore and I thought oh man and then like next possession or two you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► know five two minutes later the same thing happens except he's like sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► in my stomach and I thought son-of-a-bitch this guys doing it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► purpose and I was like I'm not gonna I'm not falling for this and I had told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► nothing but I was like that that is I had nothing but respect for me but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► figured it out and I played him for years afterwards and he did it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► time and i would i would tell my teammates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► hey either let me garden or if you're going to garden know that he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► he's gonna do this and I would watch you need to do it all the time and i have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► thought it was so gina was like a way of like him you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► hey this I have nothing but respect for the guy because he was actually a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► shooter he could you know shoot the 3-pointer and everything with one hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► then I like you wouldn't think so like anybody who said you wouldn't look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► another person criticized because of that kind of snow fair he's got long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► legs or that got big hands or that guy's got long arms or a good I he's just he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► using what he's got effectively yeah and that's it's you know i'm not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► have nothing but no complaint about it but it i thought it was genius i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► it was a way of embracing you know taking a limitation and embracing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► making the most of it and i'll tell you it worked it absolutely love the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► time with me it worked like a charm and I remember when other people on my team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► regarding them seeing at work and saying I told you he was gonna do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► yeah I so we were going to talk about know there's anything else you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► talk about front but we could talk about I want to talk about this AI stuff yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► me too and I know it's driving people nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► it's driving people nuts to call this a i and III don't know why I don't see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► anybody could deny that you know I i know there's you know some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► formal computer science PhD level definition of artificial intelligence in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► that in some ways this doesn't apply but if if you took an Amazon echo back or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► took someone I guess you can't take it back because it wouldn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► internet but took someone from 1978 to today and showed them an Amazon echo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► say is this artificial intelligence yes or no they're gonna say yes right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► it it's almost like every time we solve an AI problem once we solve it it it no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► longer because is magical and therefore it no longer counts as a i j is only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► just because you would understand how the effect was pulled off doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► I mean it's still it's still a magic trick even if you understand the effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► and to bring somebody from making 78 and I yell at my my dingus and say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► that's that's magic that feels like AI even if that's not what a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► scientist would call it right even if like once you know how the trick is done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► you're like well just hooks up to the the local api for your public is up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► the magic network in the sky that connects all computers oh by the way did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► we mention there's a magic networking this guy that connects all computers now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► oh by the way to mention everyone has computers in their pocket now right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► if the device knows the weather because it's got a gps and you know knows your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► zip code by the way we can predict weather now we need to be able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► oh by the way your pocket advisor looks up to you by your computer makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► beeping noise when it's about to rain in the next two minutes the devices know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► where they are to within a house or to know your kind of cuisine that isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► even popular yet that you can request in your neighborhood on your pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► yours look house this isn't a I your phone thinks it's next door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► oh that's so stupid just because you say or do you just get you say to your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► pocket computer tell my wife i'll be running late and it knows that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► that's a there's other little wizard inside of there do you know what I i try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► to either thing is finding you saw in my my long discursive notes about this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► I guess I feel like part of it is I'm just trying to do two things one is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► trying to avoid using what I know to be terms of art so I mean people talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► AI talk about machine learning and even getting a specific as saying Justin of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► it's just I'm more interested in what the stuff is doing for consumer and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► mean that requires a little bit of extrapolating about what's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► technically behind it but i don't think that i don't think it makes it any less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► fascinating what's happening when we don't call it a science a name i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► so I'm just brushing all this under the umbrella of AI because I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► else to say it's you know I think separate invoices systems versus AI is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► not not helpful when we get to all of the constituent parts that you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► if we say Siri you know to paraphrase Raymond Carver we know what we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► about when we talk about co which part of Syria you mean we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► dictation are you talking about you know being able to interact with their talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► about the button on your phone like that means lots of different things and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► feel like to understand where this stuff is going it's very helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► it's not helpful to fixate on what we call it it's helpful to focus on what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► does and what are the potential as far as i can tell in the machine no short to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► medium-term what are the things that are likely to help or hinder the growth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► all of these various pieces that we losing the lights every time a holiday I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► you know if we just keep calling a week . so what does that mean is the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► thing you do when you're talking to your phone in your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► the same thing as what's happening when I have TT turns your humidifier off like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► those are such different things and yet they are completely related because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► are part of this ecosystem down to the ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► set down to the ability to pick which florist you want to use when you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► those are all part of the same system and I feel like we gets really confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► when people try to just keep throwing it throwing it under the bus by all by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► calling it all this same like fruity future world stuff that nobody is ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► going to want a quick aside I've been struggling i think a lot of podcasters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► struggle i know i have talking about this stuff because there's the phrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► you can say to address serie I that you don't want to say on a podcast because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► it can trigger it on listeners phones and devices if they're not listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► with headphones and a reader suggested I i wrote this down and unfortunately I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► did not write down his name and I'm sorry I'd love to give you credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► he his solution is that while we're talking about our podcast we can say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► comma Siri how about kind of suggests that's very good i suggest another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1855">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► don't even better about your dingus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► okay because that's not a trigger nothing right now although i might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► you and i start to start up with one of these things easy because i think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► would definitely call ours is the dinkus we are doing good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► I can't have dead weight my incubator everythingís think it's alright I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► that too so i'm going to put that out there hey commissary if you want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► about Syrian particular and then we'll say yo dingus to address these things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► general I just think it's AI think the terminology is interesting because Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► is an umbrella term for stuff that is not really AI like you said it's eat or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► even we even call it Siri when you're just talking about voice dictation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► you just hit the little microphone to to dictate a text that you want typed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► you're not even asking a query or anything like that whereas google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► doesn't really it seems like until very recently they didn't even have a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► for their thing I used to call it google now but then I found out google now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► isn't really the AI think now is like they're contextual thing where they show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► you cards based on what they think you want to see at the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► and now they call it google assistant i guess for the private benefit their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► brand to just to not overly disambiguate that by just getting used to the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► that google is this big bunch of functionality that helps you with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► life so you know they might have brand names for things but i would think when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► you hail it it's unlike the other ones it does make sense that you would say yo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► google yeah i think that from a just a typical user standpoint it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► matter because it all end and maybe it's less confusing for them to just think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► Google as a thing that they can talk to instead of just type at you just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► just give it to us just tell us what you want and we'll just because it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► it's shockingly fast that I mean it's right there one of the distinctions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► making their i mention this couple is going back to work is you know there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► a lot of folks who understandably gave up on everything serie a long time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► which I have to say is somewhat understandable given the basic way most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► of us deal with this stuff which is we try it it works or doesn't work we tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► again it works or doesn't work and eventually in a fit of pique you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► this is not for me this is for nerds and that was it was true Syria for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► time but since he got better than Cirie got way better but one way in which has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► been good for a long time so what I'm trying to sell people on this idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► not only well the important part is serious better than you think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► important part is hey get used to it like start using this because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► so what I would say to people is if you're frustrated with searing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► not understanding your request if you don't feel comfortable with the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► service getting your voice in functionally working which can vary a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► lot depending on your connection stuff like that one test I just said three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► try using dictation where you would normally type don't talk too fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► don't talk too slow don't talk to allow don't talk too quiet just talk to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► I think a lot of folks might be a little bit really interested in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2048">TS</a>]
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00:34:22 ◼ ► corrections it will be faster than typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► let's talk about dictation here as against tell me the weather in bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2065">TS</a>]
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00:34:35 ◼ ► couldn't type with my left hand for a couple of weeks and i had to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2075">TS</a>]
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00:34:43 ◼ ► naturallyspeaking thing on the Mac you know they didn't have anything like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► for iphone and so I really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► you know I'm lucky because by my finger made a full recovery now so I mean but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► there's there's people like like my aforementioned opponent basketball who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2095">TS</a>]
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00:35:04 ◼ ► there's Jack people with genuine permanent accessibility needs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► dictation can really really be helpful and it really wasn't there i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► was like twenty twelve hours how it's been a and it you know it was better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► than nothing but it was better than not having the feature in iOS but boy I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► it was as good as it is now because i find you know like having just come off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► the winter where it really you know when you're all bundled up and you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► really type while you're walking around a cold City the dictation feature i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► think it works amazingly well compared to where it was it still has much room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2137">TS</a>]
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00:35:45 ◼ ► nuances at the company that makes you can dictate I mean and they for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► time have been there engine has been way ahead of everybody else is as far as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► know but i mean you know i think well except maybe Google's right even and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► ideas like getting it working that David sparks's of the world can work Dragon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2157">TS</a>]
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00:36:07 ◼ ► super frustrating to train and retrain and I never got invested enough in it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2167">TS</a>]
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00:36:17 ◼ ► making have sometimes of going to the google app hitting the microphone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► talking and it is shocking how fast you can see the transcription happening as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2180">TS</a>]
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00:36:52 ◼ ► has trouble titles titles can mean and be many things in many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► languages and there's plenty of room for you know as I say how the common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2215">TS</a>]
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00:37:21 ◼ ► they did truly they have excellent taste was John Carpenter's The Thing home man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2241">TS</a>]
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00:37:49 ◼ ► love the series but they don't love the remote but they love the idea that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► can just push the button and say things you know like show me that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2272">TS</a>]
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00:38:01 ◼ ► making like a list of like here's here's like five or six movies were thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► about and but show me the thing didn't work and I just remember noting you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► file that one away that's a good good example where i canno totally understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► why it didn't work but that one's done especially thorny one but if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► mind getting a little bit bash with it you can sometimes hint it a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► by saying arm find find the TV show Doctor Who write or say one plate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► play the band band of horses or whatever show me the movie the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2310">TS</a>]
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00:38:39 ◼ ► think that's what we did to to you know get it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► it's amazing they also any one of our favorite things is I mean I i have i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► still have bitches about the apple TV that are out of the scope of this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2330">TS</a>]
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00:38:58 ◼ ► one of my biggest frustrations is the bigger fan you are of a TV show the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► inscrutable so like in the case again doctor who or in the case of shark tank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2344">TS</a>]
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00:39:48 ◼ ► though where if if you do the up-down left-right it seems like it should it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► should recognize hey you've seen a lot of these shows you probably want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► watch the new one as opposed to starting you an episode for season one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► wasn't even HBO which has one of the crummiest apps on appletv prettiest bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► apps even they have a two level hierarchy for its d 1 season 2 season 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► season 4 we can please jump into going in in straight chronological but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► jump to a season but but you know it's you know think for a lot of us it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► still a case of remembering to use this and I guess that it helps to bracket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► it's your show but I mean we have two brackets some of the stuff we can talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► about every concern about you know privacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► although that's certainly an issue we can talk about every issue related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► commerce I think there's still the barrier of getting people to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► that this is there and then learning enough to know what it's capable of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► I think outside of our bubble that's a much smaller group than a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► are aware of it especially for people in the bubble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► I don't like how often do you see people using Siri like on the street like not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2445">TS</a>]
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00:40:55 ◼ ► good point couple minutes ago where I think I'll awful lot of people tried it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► circuit 2011-2012 and got the shits of it and just sort of filed it away as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► something that's not worth trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► I was fighting experiment because it was hard to know which part of it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► working and even as a non engineer i can guess that there are several parts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► it might be that there was a physical occlusion where it did not get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► microphone maybe I had my finger there right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► if it did get to the microphone did it capture what I said if it captured what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► I said wasn't able to throw it up to the cloud if it through it up to the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► wasn't able to understand what i said if i understood what I said was enabled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► energy follow like I feel like there's probably at least three or four little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► milestones between coming out of my mouth and doing a thing where it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► go wrong and any problems with connectivity would greatly exacerbate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► even how well the product worked at best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► yeah I've had the same experience with Apple maps where it's like I i was on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► podcast with josh Topolsky a couple months ago and he couldn't believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► I use Apple maps and I was like well when's the last time you tried it and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► was like I don't know never because it's terrible and i might get so much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► that was it really it it's actually pretty good and I know that I i say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► and I heard from people around the world and there was somebody you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► somewhere in the middle of Sweden news like where's where Apple maps thinks my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► neighborhood looks like and it's like blank you know with a with a lake and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► yeah obviously right you know but here in you know it the places I go you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► here in Philadelphia New York City California the places I've i tend to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► or Apple maps is actually very good and it does things like just last week Amy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► and I had to go to some store out way outside the city and the path that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► were originally on at traffic and middle of the directions series said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► forget the prompt but something like you know traffic ahead you can save 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► and we're like okay sure tell us where in the city i use is up maps all time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2576">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► didn't know that we whenever we're traveling use ways ways is something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► would never use anywhere that it's just too it's too crafty to use anywhere that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► I know where I'm going but we're traveling it will frequently say hey you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2587">TS</a>]
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00:43:16 ◼ ► faster than if you stayed on the interstate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► I didn't know Apple maps did that that's new media but I I i just think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► there's a general problem where if you start like the way that iíve written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► many times and the how apple rolls piece that i have a mac world from a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► ago still probably the best thing I've ever written about the company that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► way Apple makes things as they make a thing and at first it's here it is a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► surprise and then year after year after year they just keep making a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► better a little better a little better a little better you know in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► increments and it that's the that's apple and that's the way you make things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► better and better and better and it's not about these massive you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► explosive surprise announcements every single time but i think the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► if if you launch with something that's so disappointing that it makes people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► not even check out the iterative improvements a problem like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► certain minimum quality you have to meet and I know that there were business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► development reasons why they launched maps when they did you know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► they were sort of in the negotiating battle with google and it wasn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► so much a choice as to okay this is good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► it was like we've got to launch it no matter what right now because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► we we've either got a launcher renew this deal with google that we don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► to renew now think about in the age well in really in any age since yahoo but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► definitely want there's altavista orgies or Google or Bing or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► don't say porn but what's the first thing everybody looks for when they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2684">TS</a>]
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00:45:15 ◼ ► of somebody unseating google as the king of that I guess you know a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2715">TS</a>]
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00:45:21 ◼ ► might be information about you about that's the first thing you do and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► within the period of like what 90 seconds you might make a overarching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► decision about the quality of that based on how that comports with your own idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► of what should be there in what order right so you know if it doesn't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► you make a while thats that this is garbage I think the same is true with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► Syria where like even when you would try the UH the stock searches on it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► was seen sometimes it would just have trouble and you didn't know why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► you say whatever series unavailable right now you know whereas I mean to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► out what you put up something like hound and completely bananas stuff you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► with how it's so fast and so good at parsing really complex stuff but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► know what guess what how and how does not have a little button on the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► the right so it's gonna lose it that in the same way that any other device so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► you know this is serious just recognition well serious also the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► that there's a button that connects with your contacts that can do functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► things nothing else can do that in the apple ecosystem right now and even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► now it's it's not just the button it's the always listening microphone for yo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► dingus and that's where that's where i am feeling what people felt with Syria I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► have a terrible time getting we talked about this summer on Twitter I'm my-my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► slugging percentage on yo dingus even when it's plugged in not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► I slugging percentage for your dingus on my Apple watch is not stellar I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► it'sit's pretty bad and other people seem to have zero problem with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► I don't know what I don't know either i I've i forgot i honestly forgot that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2813">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► Apple watch had yo dinguses I because it was so bad at first and then when we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► that discussion on Twitter recently i thought let me start trying again and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► seems better than it was when I gave up on it any worse the demos because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► everything i want to show something amazing that quicksilver style thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► wanted them over somebody the thing that I want to show that's amazing never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► works and when I went and conversely when I want to demonstrate how something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► never works it always works so in been bitching about this the other day on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► back to work i invoke your dingus am I look down my Apple watch was recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► everything that i was saying but I'm Bob on phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► a sewing machine learning in AI doesn't feel a bit like the google i/o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► announcements have slightly attenuated and slightly pivoted the way we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► about this stuff like I did not hear so many people talking about a time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2875">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► learning two months ago as much as I do now it feels like they have already had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► I feel like anyway they had a role in directing this discussion even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► there's a bunch of unreleased stuff to wish that refers i think so i definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► I just feel like usually people say specifically oh I love my echo you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► there's things i like about Syria etc but you know now that Google's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► game i think people might be taking a little more seriously I i think so too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► and I think that it's it's just so couldn't be more in their wheelhouse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► you know that gets somewhat gets into marcos argument that it just doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► it does that from a certain viewpoint it looks like how can Apple ever catch up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► to google in this regard in the same way that it doesn't I don't think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► you can make the same argument that like in terms of like frame rate of animation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► and smoothness of the UI androids never going to catch up to have ios right on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► but that you know the question is where do they get to good enough like his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► android good enough i think for you know some people that obviously it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► good enough in the AI sense maybe it maybe the difference is too too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► apart i think it's i think it's a bummer that you know marker got piled on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► that way because i think what he's saying is very smart i mean if i were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► gonna in the you know as a monday-morning quarterback is what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► would say right now is the problem with Apple as as Apple exist right now they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► have a pretty low ceiling were like if things get as great as they can get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► the current state they're still not going to be that great because on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► one hand you have google who has shown how quickly they can do great things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► with services and how much they are willing able and excited to integrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► stuff they know about you your personal data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► to make that into a no-no say what you will about privacy in your concerns but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► there are a lot of folks out there like me who use google products because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► feel like the payout is there like what I get in return for what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► with that day is extremely useful and then on the other hand like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► sprite now for now rumors aside series still closed system whereas i get it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► can email every friday from amazon about new stuff I can't do with the echo new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► skills and stuff it's not always you know earth-shattering stuff but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► always at least a couple new things a week that it does and i'm forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► discovering new stuff the echo can do that I didn't know and for now with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► apple until we learn more about what their plan is you know if it I mean even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► if they're if the reliability dependability all that stuff becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► flawless even if it works great in a car even if the mic gets better you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► going to be kind of stuck out what Siri wants to or can do right now and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► it's nowhere i guess we I feel like a lot of us thought they'd be further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► along faster by now right just because they launched first and it doesn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► it seems like and again I don't want to slide on it because i think on the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► scheme of nerds i'm actually a pro Siri how I involve solutely yeah but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► there's a good argument to be made that what Siri is good at now is the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► that it was supposed to be good at originally right like it hasn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► expanded as as far outside the original feature set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► I mean it definitely has additional data sources that it didn't and just the roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► back to the beginning of the show it it definitely knows a lot more about sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► then it used to like i said last week it i think last week or the week before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► it can even do things like and this is just one of those things that I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► there's no way over is it over under that one yet over . spread you get . [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► spreads are the over-under you know you get these vegas lines and it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► thought there's no way that's gonna work because a it's a little CD you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► fellow idea of gambling on sports is a little CD in it sort of works against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► the what they allow they allow an app that does yeah I don't know but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3112">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► like in the way that like every single cruise ship in the world has a casino [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► because right it's disney and you know that's not a surprise but so you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► was a little color me pleasantly surprised that Siri can tell you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► point spread of upcoming games i thought that was pretty interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► yeah i mean but it was just sort of thing that I think people just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► well you know it's always such a joyful feeling as a as an Apple user as a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► user in particular and peculiar joy of power users for years to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► experience that I haven't seen replicated in that many other places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► this for example is coming that's not gonna happen with the ion with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► dashboard experience of any car with Apple sometimes you'll say hmm wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► what will happen if i do this and you do something you didn't look it up intro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► you didn't learn a key command you didn't read a PDF you just do a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► and it does exactly what you might have prayed that it would do you never had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► this experience with apple stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► yes we see what happens if I swipe all my god this changes everything and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► how did this not why is this something that you know for example what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► always telling people about option click on the speaker in your menu bar in OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► you know this i think so but what happens when you get oh yeah you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► is input sources lot of people don't know if you option cuz it's not obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► if you option click on the speaker you get options to change your input and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► output devices which saves me an hour a week probably not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► um but you're accepting that many places this is the thing that I love about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► mac and I've always loved about the mac is that yes there are you could say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► not discoverable but if you were going to guess how do you do it you would if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► you any and you know the mac you know that it would be the option key like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► i said to you right there is a way there's a way to change the speaker menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► up in the menu bar to get a different menu but you have to hold down a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► combination of keys while you click what keys one or more keys do you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► hold I would instantly guess you just hold the option key because that's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► it actually makes sense semantically with the word option right it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► be command it wouldn't be control it would definitely be on it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► definitely be option and in fact it is option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► if you tried it for other things now you click on option click I never thought to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► do this you option click on Wi-Fi you think so yeah a diagnostic report you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► can find some nerd information do it on doing on a Bluetooth again lots of nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► options under their information is displayed clever nobody needs to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► that exist unless you need to know that exists but anyway I just meant that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► service is saying like Apple has a great history of putting stuff in there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► hey you're going to learn if you're on a Macintosh long enough you're gonna learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► there's at least two ways to do almost everything you don't have to learn one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► or the other but you know you will eventually learn that there's a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► comports with how you want to roll and if you don't know hit command shift ? [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► enter the name of what you think you want it will magically appear in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► menu bar so remember was just with system 7 there was like when you first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► ran it there was like a little I don't know if they made it with HyperCard or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► not but it was sort of a HyperCard type thing that would it was like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► run experience and it was like a little cartoon guy who would teach you a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► of shortcuts like that like it was I got a help menu that you could you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► bring it up again with and it was sort of like show me show me some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► advanced tricks like being able to use command up and down arrow to go up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► down folders in the hierarchy from the keyboard thats i love that kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► they were so great that stuff but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► so let me ask a question i mean remember the announcement of home kit was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► alongside a lot of other this kit that kid all this does is going to come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► eventually the whatever the medical stuff in the the what's called apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► health but like for example like how many how many things do you have running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► on home kit right now nothing zero for me too I swear to god I'm not I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► trying to be no I right I look through the list i finally got an appt off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► store called home that gives you a look of easy way to like if you've got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► for that device it's got this in an inscrutable list of all these what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► appear to be like hundred i don't have any of those devices and I've got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► I've got two kinds of security cameras three kinds of I've got Hugh lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► I mean there's stuff you can do but like you know when they announce something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► like home kit you think like oh my gosh I maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► three months away from being able to talk to my house like who came on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► own and of course you know you get into the reality distortion field now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► thinking oh my gosh how soon will it be before there's an apple device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/3396">TS</a>]
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01:08:54 ◼ ► staggering how much stuff is in settings and rather than having to go drill down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► its now it is so much stuff in there that it's actually way faster to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► search right but it's almost like the difference between a you know a visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► video game like you know super mario brothers where you could see where Mario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► can go because you're watching Mario move around the screen versus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► old-school text games like zork or whatever where you just have to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► typing stuff and guess like it's easier to explore I think for most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► visually then it is to explore verbally and it's so much easier to see what an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► iphone can do because of effectively for the most part it's you go to the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► screen and look at the apps and here's what your iphone can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► these apps and you know the ones that come from Apple are fairly obvious and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► any other ones or ones that you you chose to install so you should you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► have a basic idea of what what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► whereas serie it's like what what are the what's the total list of things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4196">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► can do a siri-like i have never found a comprehensive list that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► somebody's guess on a blog post i said i have never seen a full list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► everything so you can do the closest thing I've seen is like this is a blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► post people have done and basically that marketing page where you can scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► really far down and see lots of suggestions but it's surprisingly under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► documented so you're up then you're right how do you learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► I mean think about how many people you have to say like hey if you want to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► with Siri go to Syria and hit that little ? and they're like what ? I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► like oh man hit that ? is that is in the lower left i believe and that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► tell you so much stuff you had no idea you could say to siri it's not learnable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► like you're saying it isn't like you can just look at the pretty glass screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► doing what you're supposed to do either need to get educated or you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► explore you need to try and that's not intuitively obvious so that to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► the the not the canonical example i'm trying to see the epitome of where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► is going the the ideal of where these voice driven assistants are going is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► exemplified by Hal 9000 in 2001 where the you watch these characters interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► with Hal and II you never at you would be sure it would be shocking if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► said something to him and how was like I'm sorry I didn't understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► you know it's like you just know that house going to get it and if they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► something Jimmy did you mean white the color or white the race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► what a weird question how of course you would know that right now just is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:43 ◼ ► only that but how also as i was pulling up last night and reading stuff you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4303">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► suggesting if you notice how ends up sounding like the calmest and most human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► person in the movie something yeah definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► well that was probably never thought of it that way but it's true that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► Pauline Kael as criticism when I'm one of her criticisms of the film we got one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► well that the most interesting characters the computer and its cycle so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► what isn't that actually kind of fascinating that that somebody can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► a movie where the most interesting characters is the computer like how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► that how is that a failure but if there is if the characters in the movie had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► you know that the lights with them there's not a hundred percent chance you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► know and you know that how could do that like anything on that ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► you know that how could do you know and everything that they get it it's big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► the ideal is obviously something that's so aware that it can control everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► like it's $YEAR and we're obviously not there yet but you know we're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► there you're already you're already turning your lights out with it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► like you know you know you probably can't turn your microwave on with Alexa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► you got me thinking that you're bringing up a really good point we talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► what they came out of the box with in 2007 like what was it that was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4374">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► retrospect as we look back what are the things that we really remember as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► seeing revolutionary I think I I feel like for myself the most amazing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► Steve and team pulled off was calling this thing of phone so the first amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► part is that they were to put out this they would prompt this thing that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► yeah it's phone but I mean there's a lot of other things i would want to call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► before i called it a phone it is to use his third the third piece it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► Internet communicator that's what made the thing really great but who's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► to go out and buy internet communicator i think that for myself that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► amazing part is that they put a computer in your pocket and it did actually work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► the other amazing thing in retrospect maybe one of the things that is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► revolutionary and influential was that it's just a big piece of glass on front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► right there's no there's no there's one dedicated button that does stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► there's only limited things the apps can do to write the remember these are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► days when you run a one-at-a-time what you can do it sounds very limited what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4435">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► you could do with having you know you're only you couldn't copy and paste it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► one appetizer and set about what did that do that worked to the advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► both the strengths and weaknesses of the phone could only do so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► but what you could do is very easy to understand because it was in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► paradigm that you're familiar with if you've ever used a windows like a GUI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► system this is not going to seem crazy it's just that there's no mouse your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► finger is the mouse so right but the thing is so but now where are we where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► are we now like you say well now you can get the stuff by pulling down you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► get the stuff by pulling up if you're on a recent phone like if you're on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► sixth-generation phone pressing hard on i wonder how many people know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► pressing hard on the left side of the screen will be a little bloop and you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► to the previous app you can be one of the six people who is using the 3d touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► but so and on top of that look think about the haptics and tactics on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► there are now so many more ways to communicate and communication is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► just talking communication is also listening and hearing so our ability i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► mean for example something i don't know how many people use this on iOS but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► woody and flip on the LED the LED will blink when you get an alert so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► that turned on so if i'm not paying attention i can see across the room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► there's like a flash so there's all these ways that you can talk to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► phone the phone can talk to you but we're still I mean but we still haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► really thought the whole paradigm of how we interact with the phone but finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► new ways to expand with this thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► make it faster touch ID think about touch ID right but I mean there hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► been there hasn't been a need to completely rethink the phone because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► these are all improvements on the product we had in 2007 but now if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► like I don't make sure this is where you're going but I mean that one know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► wow I mean now that you can do voice like how does that change the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► think about this little glass internet communicator you know it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► well-suited to doing these kinds of things and what would need to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► about the basic technology and the policies of the company to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► into something more than just another another way to interact with the phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► don't know I I still want to know like like where where do we draw the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► between having every single device that we get from Apple understand your dingus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► right right now I've got my watch doing it I've got my phone doing it my ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► does it my Mac doesn't but there's three devices that do and now there's a room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► ready also have an apple TV right and and now they're supposedly building a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► new device that does it well then one nice when I address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► serie with your dingus what how many things turn on at once I mean right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► it's not very smart at all like if my ipad is it within your same your shot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► the phone they both come on well I'm happy to take out my managers think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► about my messages like you know they seem to have gotten better at that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► you know you don't want every single device in the world going off if it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4616">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► a way to determine where you quote unquote are right now that's where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► prefer to hear about i still miss things because it went to the watch and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► didn't realize it so it is trying to be smart with that but to have a sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► place about what you're doing and like i said in this is notes here that context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► or it's like when it's most appropriate to do a certain kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► because you know what do we have to choose one tool that are we allowed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► have like spoons and knives in our house is likely you you might want all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► things but you do need a little help from the devices to be contextually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► intelligent about what you need to know when stuff is likely to be useful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► where it is extremely cumbersome and inappropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► do you remember like this is way back this is like going back to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► 1998-1999 and on the great but with one of the best websites at that time was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► mackin touch it still around but I don't think it's that rig floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► yeah Rick Ford was a great and every I remember that there is a recurring like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► the way that he would do it somebody would send something in it would become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► a story and then a couple more people would email and then he would add to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► page with more people's comments but it wasn't open it was curated by Rick Ford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► and you'd end up with this great discussion i remember one of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► controversies was when some mac apps started phoning home on the network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► which more or less just to check for a new version like they would like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► like once a week some you know little indie app would would connect to its you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► know parent companies . calm and just say hey I'm version 3.7 is there a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► version and then if there is like a 3.8 is out it could let you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► there's a new version and people were you know we're using certain like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► utilities that would notify them like people super hyper privacy minded people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► who use utilities like a like on Mac os10 you would be like Little Snitch i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► think over things like this is this is a concern though if you're stealing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► copy of cork which I heard some people used to do because it would be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► run out across the network and see which other serial numbers like the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► along as lines where you would you would actually be able to get another liquor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► shareware running that would prevent those things from talking to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► yeah what it would do it yeah the the one of the the anti-piracy or anti you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► know using a license on too many machines mechanisms I know Kourt did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► I think adobe my I know for sure to work did it you know where they would look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► across the local network and maybe was the whole internet was it the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► I don't know is that i think for our cases are appletalk network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► yeah and it was enough to do it was enough to make an important they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► look across the local talk network and if it's all the same serial number was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► already running it would refuse to run on the second machine and people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► you know we're very upset about it because it was like what right does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► app have to do anything on the network without me and I remember nodding my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► head and it wasn't like thinking like yeah you know outrage i was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► thinking yeah this is a little creepy i wonder where this is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► and to think about like how much like how antiquated that is like privacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► why's that i'm thinking i was what made me think about this was that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► thinking i wouldn't mind if my imac always had the camera on to look to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► if i'm sitting in front of it so that it would as soon as I get it from my chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► would know to send the I message that I'm conversation I'm having with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► maryland right to my phone right like how does my imac know if I'm sitting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► front of it like right now it doesn't really it just like kind of keeps track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► of i guess like Mouse action or keyboard action or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► nothing i will not either either totally innocuous are really scary depending on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► what you think of as being watched because what about motion sensors in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► well no we just I you know what I mean like it depends on what you wanted to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► but this is 0 or 1 feeling there because if there's a camera we assume that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► always recording us and sending it somewhere to do something it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► simply a sensor right we assume immediately that it's going to be taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► our stuff and throwing it up on the internet somewhere just it we've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4854">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► come so far in terms of where we draw the season it's ludicrous prostrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► actually i was told my daughter I give my daughter a bath last night and boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► her to tears telling her about how schools going to talk to you about today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► and I was asking her about what she thought about the distinction between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► listening and hearing and and she she was saying she thinks we're disagreeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► a little bit on the distinction but I think to appreciate what we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► about with this stuff you must see a distinction or should see a distinction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► between listening and hearing so if you don't believe the companies that say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► they're not actually setting on your stuff the NSA will definitely don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► these devices if you're considering that though I think it's worth considering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► the difference being listening and hearing it's one thing to listen right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► that it's basically listening for the trigger words but then after the trigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► words is when it's really hearing and I feel like that's that's a young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► distinction that we need to start thinking about for all kinds of reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► including privacy right did you follow what I'm saying though no I do like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► your case you want you want a camera that's that is monitoring even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► not recording that there's there's we should start to see some kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► distinction certainly again I think you always have to say that yes I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► people spotting us but like what are we willing to throw out for that notion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► privacy that we may or may not have any way in this instance I just I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► a lot of people shut that door really fast without looking too much further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► beyond what they imagine is the worst-case scenario would you be okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► with your with your Mac using the camera to see if you're if you're in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► god no now even if they you see me see what it looks like right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► well then I don't know and I feel like you could you know outsiders could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► independently verified by looking at network traffic that the video isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► no I see what you're saying but like for example like we've got a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► different cameras at the house when we got a nest cam that watches the door and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► we've got a canary in the canary is a camera with a super get da familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► canary know there is pretty cool scary . is so it's a device that and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► too different looking from amazon echo little shorter a little fatter you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► basically plug that in and it has a very wide fisheye lens that will cover not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► hundred eighty degrees but a pretty wide spectrum and but the nice thing about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► it has a very sane mode series of modes so there's armed which means that nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► is in the house and you know go ahead and record you know whatever whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► you're seeing with the camera if it notices that you're at home you can set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► it so that it either keeps running and dozen isn't sending you notices or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► if the iphone detects that anybody is at home and you know that people should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5035">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► there it just shuts it off altogether so like you know i mean is that perfect no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► but like that works pretty well so if we're out of town and we see something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► moving around it's not a back at our house cleaner you can have that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► you know she's off the siren you can hit the police number from it whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► mainly want to just be able to see what you know nothing's on fire you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► feeling that i would like that i will put i will put the the link in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► notes I've already written it down it looks like a great product it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► everybody on I know exactly what you mean i get paranoid and we're away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► yeah that you know how do i know that the house is hasn't burned down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► how do I know that who would know to class effect you know how do I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► squatters haven't broken in and just sort of setup setup home is nobody draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► a penis on your garage to write exactly the last trust me I know from firsthand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► experience you've got his of that as soon as possible before the ink dries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► oh sorry I took your topic well no no but the rumor about this upcoming apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► thing is that i'll put a link to the show notes on that but did you see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► that after the initial report came out there's a report that the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► Apple's doing does include a camera probably similar to the canary like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► wide angle fisheye camera and that it will attempt to recognize the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► yeah and again I I don't want to be glib about it i know i'm a Kubrick you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► fanatic but I you know it's the concept of how you know and one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► that makes 2001 such a great movie is this the scientific rigor you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► really was an honest attempt and I obviously it was very optimistic about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► the write-up about all of it you know there's there is no hilton are orbiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► the Earth panam doesn't have flights to the moon we don't have a rocket ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► that could take astronauts to Jupiter and more dogs had stewardess is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► velcro shoes now and we don't have a way I at the level of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► so it was optimistic year wise but you know it attempted to be you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► rigorous as they could and including talking to top artificial intelligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► you know experts of the era as to you know what do you think would be possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► how could this work and it's you know conceptually it that's where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► heading right but we would have wide angle i mean even that won't even down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► to using a wide angle lens to get a big field of view into the it into the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► dingus right when they show you how this point of view it's like a superfish I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► but the idea that you think you're talking to an end again it's like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► mixture of yes I've always wanted to have like how 9000 and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► conversely the I don't know if I want you know i don't want people you know AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5215">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► systems watching me you know i mean like a mixture of like dread and desire but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► think it is clearly where we're heading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► and the idea that it would help you know like help create a shared device because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► I guess one of the limits of like the echo right now that it it's like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► people in the same house can't really set it up with what's on my calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► oh true yeah sure you can have multiple echoes and that's actually it's kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► cool but yeah you're right and I mean also you know there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► something that's gotta get dealt with that some point soon is i guess i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► it's understandable to say well you know right now we're gonna get the technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► down so anybody who talks to it correctly can make this work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► I mean you know for example my echo has access to my calendar it is my calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► anybody who came in and asked it could get my calendar info that doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► currently there's not a way i know for echo to be disabled when I personally am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5276">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► not there is probable kind of creepy stuff you can do but you know and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► can buy stuff like so like if I come over to your house and you you know head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► to the restroom I could quick order up just a reorder reorder dildos and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► it's really true i basically just say to your dingus you just say like reorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► contractor bags and say okay on the state you ordered that that's it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► Syracuse is concerned about the Amazon buttons that is key kids which my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► daughter has totally dunno look at some more seventh generation to church [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► it's see I don't know this is I guess this is the part people always want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► talk about this is the part that you always jump directly to I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► unavoidable but i think it's all so complicated which is when you get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► like you know what should just do just because we can do it should we do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► well I think this is where stuff is going so it's it does not benefit us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► keep talking about how this time we're never gonna use this benefits the talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5337">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► about what we actually are talking about when we talk about this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► what were willing to tolerate i think i would have the same conversation about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► this we have to stop acting like it's a Frankenstein monster and try to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► liked more reasoned discussion about you know what this stuff is what this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► does and and once you get used to a creature comfort you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► it's it's like psychologically impossible to go back and just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► about like cars and the way that cars have improved since we were kids just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► creep creature comfort wise right like when we were kids if you wanted to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► the seat back or front you had to sit there and hold a physical liver and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► slide it using your muscles and now I mean our cars 10 years old but we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► thing where when I you know . the electronic key fobs if i unlock the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► the seat automatically starts moving to my preferred location and if Amy's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► one who unlocks the door the seat moves to her preferred location it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► but you really shouldn't be driving right unless your license I well Anna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► Anna well and I wear flip-flops everywhere you know about topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► yes this is that is so crazy to me but the topic of prospectus and seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► atms we are atms but you know what it what a terrific example 1977-78 guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► what there's this new scary robot at the mall that will give you money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► wait a minute you're saying anybody can walk up to this machine law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► access to my bank account no no you gotta have your little card and you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► okay just let me understand this you know I'm a Rockefeller and I have access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► to all this money so basically anybody who has this four-digit code can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► clean me out because and that's really what everybody said into the eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► ok so i'ma try to say this is a perfect system but what I'm saying is that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► the amount of time that a team has been around there's some things we most all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► of us kind of know at this point instead it's always gonna be stuff like skimmers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► like you know Greek ribs on security have just ruined your month but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► are things we know we know first of all that there are limitations on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► account if they do quick and clean you out there not gonna get more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► probably 400 or 500 dollars out of your account and you know what if it was if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► it was fraudulent there's a pretty good chance you can go to your bank they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► going to cover most of the cost of that you know quite average my dad I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► think has an ATM card I said all I i still think that maybe they've sent him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► one and then he did without even asking and he just cuts it up haha um wraps my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► dad's oil burns at my dad my dad at least in you know at least through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► high school when i lived at home anytime my dad wanted to get cash he would go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► the bank and go to the waiting line and go to the teller and and bring the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► problem right and and get cash and he would just get enough cash at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► we wouldn't have to go back frequently i hate accidentally falling into the role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► of arms your futures because it's such a douchey thing that to be but like here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► what i'm trying to say like you know I have a pretty good feeling this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► overarching thing for me as i try to grow as a person is to stop making these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► instant decisions based on emotions about whether something will be terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► and ruin everything which feels like something a lot of folks do it soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► it distresses we're black and white thinking thing where soon as somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► gets the slightest whiff of something they don't like it's the worst thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► ever and it's a literal Holocaust trying to avoid doing that so when I say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► example something like an ATM what I'm really trying to say is that like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► there's a certain amount of risk associated with that there will always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► be a certain amount of risk we're still driving cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► I can go a hundred miles an hour is an acceptable amount of risk with that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► don't find that risk it all when a bus goes by your kid while you're while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► you're walking down the street but like all these things find their level in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► pendulum swing Hakuna Matata and like but the thing is we figured out a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► for atms to be part of our life in a way that didn't ruin everybody in America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► and so I think instead of thinking about this as like some kind of new dioxin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► it's going to kill the environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► let's think about things like a nes things like vr the silly things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► let's instead ask ourselves like how that could find a place if we stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► looking at it as this thing we think we understand today start looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► components of this that's something we might see in our lives and stop being so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► wowed by it and all the times user counter wowed by it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► somebody else is running away with the legislation on what actually happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► with that stuff you got to keep your eyes open and be smart but admit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► this is something that is the thing right there's you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► self-driving cars thing is a perfect example where I i think most people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► looking forward to it but because it is scary red letters new and its seemingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► involves you know robots doing things that we used to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► everybody is worried I know I'm where everybody knows that eventually it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► going to come we're going to have self-driving cars and eventually it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► just inevitable there's going to be an accident or somebody gets killed and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► can blame the AI and there's so many millions of people in so many cars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► so many things it's inevitable and you know just to put up the hypothetical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► like what if the AI locks itself into a situation where it's either it can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► a move that harms you the passenger or it kills a pedestrian and it doesn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► you know there's no other option that the AI ceased and the decision has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► made in the next hundreds of a second what happens either way it's like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► ethical ethical problem with the train track and that kind of thing right let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► me ask yourself you know i mean i'm not a statistician but think about like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► we took the net number of miles driven by mature automated vehicles versus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► net number of just thoughts and allow me a strong man here the net number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► miles driven by drunks like let's see who has a better kill ratio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► because i gotta feeling the automated car might do a little bit better i bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► you know what turns out i bet it might even do a little bit better than all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► those people who are really good drivers especially when more and more automated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► cars can talk to each other until I need the meat bag behind the pedal to keep it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► from flying off the road right I completely agree i think it's inevitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► that self-driving cars are going to happen relatively soon and that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► will have wonderful safety records and that the sooner we can get all or nearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► all card self-driven that the the difference in the number of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► getting maimed seriously injured and killed will look back at it as when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► will be used to let people smoke on airplanes you know like my god with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► the hell were we thinking we let people drive a hundred miles an hour while they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► were text messaging there was not an eye on people did it I got it will look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► we got totally the problem at truck the other day like just completely cut off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► by a semi 10 minutes later we see a woman you know cruising down 80 with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► kid in the car seat like texting and independent just you don't see too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► of those to go like really you think it's gonna be that much worse to have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► automated car that understands heuristics of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► I i totally don't but the problem is that as a society we collectively are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► very bad at accepting statistical proof and vs anecdotal proof righty to you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► you know it's like the the Republican senator who who's who's argument against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► climate change was let me this is true story i forget the guys name but he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► made his little speech on the Senate floor with a snowball he had just made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► outside the capital at an unseasonable time of year right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► the-the-the climate scientists just cursing he's figured this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► he figured out the what's happening with big climate but for some people that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► example is way more compelling than the statistical evidence of what is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► going on right i think it's an out you know but i think people get used to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► with the with the self-driving cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5817">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► like every guy i forget how much I told about this but I know I never wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► about it but I got this amazing demo at the Mercedes self-driving car thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► Silicon Valley a couple months ago and it went on a ride in an actual self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► driving a Mercedes s-class it was amazing i mean it's real it actually was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► like an entire thing like starting in somewhere in Mountain View and getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► onto a highway and getting off and the entire thing was that no human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► wow really yeah people who do that all seem to say a similar thing which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► like they're always amazed at how quickly it's it how quickly it's stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► seeming weird like the more than sometimes it is more than a few minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► of that before you go like oh this totally makes sense so Mike one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► questions for them was do you think right now you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► mercedes-benz makes cars that go well in excess of any speed limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► posted in the United States you know you wanted you know if not i would guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► every single car they make those at least 200 miles an hour in self driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► mode is it going to be an option to exceed the posted speed limit and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► answer was almost certainly not that the car you know it will be programmed so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► that there is no way that you can exceed the speed limit and their take is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► know what you couldn't sell a car like that today when people drive but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► think that people will accept that because why do they want to go fast it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► because they're bored they want to get to where they're going and if they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► sit there and dick around on their phone while they're getting there you know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► cares if it takes extra five you know who cares if it takes an extra five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► minutes to get to work because you're driving 55 instead of driving 80 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► yeah but this is also this is also getting too i mean you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► whenever we try to think about changing try to get the future we we tend I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► like at least I tend to focus on maybe two axes but usually one axis like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► thing that I'm familiar with the thing that I'm obsessed with the thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► think about but that's the difficulty if they could about anything more than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► year out of the future and the future is like how all ideas Germany you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► will things suddenly get cheaper and more pasta how do things suddenly become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► less impossible and it's it's difficult to imagine how those kinds of things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► going to work you know and we all have our own like biases about we know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► know how we would how we would want to work and what we would accept in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► of risk and I i don't know i don't know let me take a break and thank our third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► sponsored your guess who's rose at third bunch of sweet on third sponsor this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► week is the good folks at math . com honestly fuck these guys for making me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► think of a third thing to say about them i mean god bless him for buying out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► they really did they bought all three they paid rack rate for all three spots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► and God bless them for that I do love the sponsors but I gotta tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► there's not that much say about him their daily deal site and they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► some really cool videos and they write really clever copy and they've got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► forums where there's really cool stuff going on but other than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► fuck them go to med calm and check them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► welcome anything else you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► about this AI stuff i think we covered a lot of it anything else i know you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► you did a lot more research you did good work man fuck this guest on Dino [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► let me ask you this I don't think hammer thing I want to stay on the camera thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► for a second because i think i think that i don't think that it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► mean the rumors that apple is working on a product now I think it's imminent I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► mean you've got this canary thing in your house i think i think the cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► are the next step I really do believe you say the people who say why would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► need a device if I've got you know the Apple faithful God love them who say why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► would I ever want a device for these things if I have my watch and my phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6056">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► can almost promise you as much as I love you all that you haven't actually tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► using a device for this stuff because you will use it differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► it's funny it's ironic to me that the same people who are so in love with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► their iphone that they learn to love don't understand that there's a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► pattern with trying a device for a while and seeing how you would use it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► different context and if you do use it route pretty you might use it pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► differently i could see that becoming a hub for the home and a lot of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► always already amazon device that's made by a third party that you can put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► your refrigerator and treat that way but you know but you know and did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► questions going to see that will come back to the always like you know well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► how are kids going to use this that's the thing nobody cares why we use it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► we've aged out of the demo nobody cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► I don't want to keep banging the how 9000 hammer but i still think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► conceptually it's correct that how was everywhere on the ship and was built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► into the ship and he wasn't he wasn't like a thing that they talk to on her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► I'm not saying that talking to the thing on your wrist isn't a thing but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► saying that the better way to go is to have have a ubiquitous presence built in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► to the ship uh the star trek is the same way right the next generation enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► computer best name for one of these things ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► I was the same way that the computer was just an ever-present presence built into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► the ship I will yes totally and I mean and like think I'm just think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► stuff like water water used to be a thing that you went down to the creek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► and he filled filled the jugs or a bucket and you brought it back and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► was the water but now water comes out a little dinguses all throughout your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► house time was air conditioning was a thing you bought down at the Montgomery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► Ward you stuck in your window and now magically air-conditioning comes out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► all these events throughout your house you can have smart vents as I've seen on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► shark tank that you can adjust how much your condition is going to into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► room anytime so our first example of how we would use this how a 9000 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6177">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► I talking to my watch to see what the weather is even though i could probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► just as easily go see but like think about more than what happens when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► devices that you use it is i think of it almost like a client-server relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► what if it gets to where you pick up six or eight or 12 packs of these dinguses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► that you could magnet or stick to the wall in the shower they're waterproof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► they could go in the car they go in the garage then go anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► what if it becomes just another the same way that you want to extend your Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► network just wanna extend the ability to say stuff into the air and have it do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► things that gets us away from this idea of having this weird two-hundred-dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► thing you put in your house like I would think more in that direction then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► thinking of talking to your watching asking for the weather and eventually it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► gets smart enough and contextual enough it will learn to as i said the thing i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► always looking for us learn to tell me about things I didn't know I needed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► know before I realize I need to know it that's the real brilliance is when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► real machine learning start to see patterns that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► it's just telling me about important things not just things i know i need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► know tell me the things that are important that i don't know that i need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► to know and that's where ubiquity comes into it and context tell me when this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► I don't be yelling at me and blinking lights all the time learn what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► important to me and help me have the life I want to have humans are naturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► really really good at pattern certain pattern recognitions like identifying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► familiar face or even like a face that you've only met once you know but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► like a parody Leah's i was called we just like you look at a street curb and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► you see a face because you're wired to see faces and yes you are yeah or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► the rock up in New Hampshire the the old man on the mountain but yeah it is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► yeah we're actually we're so wired to recognize faces that we see faces where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:50 ◼ ► there aren't faces or try to turn right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6290">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► ah and voices too but even as humans for it at 18 is it just an obvious example I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6294">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► once I hit puberty every time I answered the phone anybody who is calling from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► dad would think that I was my dad and just start talking to him like like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► was him because I sounded I don't think I sound that much like them to be honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► but I sound enough like him that over and with the distortion of a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► landline phone it sounded enough so if a human being could confuse me with my dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► I think that it's reasonable that even a very gud Ecco like device might confuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► me and my dad and so I think that the do you know adding additional sensors at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► obviously a camera to know who the heck is talking to the right time right is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► almost necessary like I maybe i'm just talking myself in a corner and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► just get everybody's gonna have these camera like devices in our house within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► the next day I don't think you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► I mean think about the way triangulation works were like you could I guess if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► wanted to you can put your entire R&D budget into creating the world's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► greatest single antenna for discovering where something is located but isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► fair to say that it's better to have hundreds or thousands of much less cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► antennas to talk to each other that can translate and say well you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► there's a pretty good chance that you're here based on the signal strength of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► these different things that's I think that's kind of what we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► right i mean so in this case like there are there are existing technologies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► make this easy and useful already so if this iphone app detects that I'm in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► house cause a certain set of things to happen if it's a certain time of day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► then that's a factor right you think about i'm here but my kids not here that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► can cause things to happen knowing what the weather is or what the weather is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► becoming these are all like very know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► little things right now it's just that you cannot accomplish that easily with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► just something like if this then that it's a very it's a great app a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► service but very dull weapon but what about these multivariate things where if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► certain kinds of conditions are met over a certain period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6417">TS</a>]
01:47:00 ◼ ► let me know to do these things just even something as simple as what were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6420">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► describing when my iphone is in the house lots of things should be different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► that's pretty easily yeah and it's I know siracusa covered this recently on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► ATP about like how we almost feels bad for his kids that they're not gonna they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► can get away with like putting your bike up against every of the camera looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► out right but like--imagine like I'm not even at home but we've got a rule that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► there's no video games before dinner like good you know right now Jonas is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► a let's just say no video games and I could say where's Jonas and I could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► told Jonas is playing playstation 4 and you're living right right i mean that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► that is it was science fiction when we were you know even if nothing about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► that is unknowable you're talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► connecting to pre-existing streams it's just the connections not their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► the face recognition is there the the wifis there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► The Voice driven stuff is there i mean that's a problem could be solved today I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► mean here's here's another one that's such a brilliant little thing that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► I don't get that many phone calls so I'm grateful I don't need this that much but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► I'd love to just in nine but you wear your phone says you're getting a call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► from this number which appears to be this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► so what's that doing it's going to looking through your old emails and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► recognizing that this phone number has been mentioned by this person before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► that's what we're talking about we're not talking about rocket science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► we're talking about like the most basic kinds of inference like one little step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► at a time you know what I mean just build up this little case with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► these little bits of information i completely agree i can talk about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► anything else you wanna talk about on this front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:51 ◼ ► now I don't think so you know it's just it's the ongoing obsession of mine were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6531">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► like I really have noticed myself running mind being across the old man is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► a lot about that's very comforting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► there's a lot of things I can dismiss and not feel bad about it but I i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► trying to really just keep my mind open about continuing to understand new stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:08 ◼ ► on its own terms rather than like what I need are expected to be so that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6548">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► these topics end up really hitting me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► I I feel like that that is my perspective exactly i'm absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► rocketing towards crotchety old man but I'm like an open-minded crotchety old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► man that's cut it's the best I think it's the best that we get off my lawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► whenever it suits you i don't i don't know why but it's been on my mind this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► weekend I'm obsessed with this that I tried I ended my XOXO talk two years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:47 ◼ ► but by referencing the song but I for some reason I've had it it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6587">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► song has been popped in my head is kenny rogers the gambler which is sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► this this jokey upbeat you know like you know it was just a funny little folksy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6595">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► story about a lot of wisdom in that song lot of wisdom and accept that the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:07 ◼ ► ends in the date goes back to the refrain afterwards but the last actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6607">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► lyrics before comes back to the refrain in his final words every hand that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:18 ◼ ► winner every hands a winner and every every hand to win every hand a loser and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6618">TS</a>]
01:50:24 ◼ ► the best that you can hope for is to die in your sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6624">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► the best really yeah the best you can hope for is to die in your sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► oh and it's such a mccobb I mean the whole thing is so folks in ridiculous at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► and then there's the that's just tossed out there and if you think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► there is actual I don't know what got me something you just said about the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► best we can hope for something that reminded every hand the winner every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► hands a loser but the best you can hope for but in his final words i found the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6653">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► you know like John there are enough advice songs are songs that are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► well i think that if you read between the lines at first you want to say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► that's not the best that you can hope for there's all sorts no it's literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► it's literally not the best that you can hope for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► they not going well see available way or is it well but if you're if if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► accept the premise that we're all going to die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:29 ◼ ► okay then and I know like our friend Peter teal friend of the good friend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6689">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► the show Peter teal does does does not accept this premise is working then then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► that there's a certain logic to it where you gotta die somehow and like that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► the end we're all going to be in the dirt and so the best that you can hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:45 ◼ ► for is to die initially because any other way of dying is not a song called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6705">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► coward of the county little bit of a cowardly way to jack up your aspirations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► is Cochise i hope i'm not awake when this happens whether you do you have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6714">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► thoughts on the whole Peter teal Gawker thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► nope no I'm gonna have problems enough from john i toss it out and in a in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► reply so i think that it's I think that it's a it got lost but i doubt it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► little gag i tweeted this one out to everybody i tweeted that Batman vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► Superman to Bruce Wayne spends a decade and 10 million dollars financing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► lawsuits to bankrupt the Daily Planet pretty good joke Africa and then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► then somebody tweeted like whoa I'm in as long as it's subtitled electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► boogaloo and I treated back know obviously it the subtitle is man of teal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► oh right i had to get that after you don't even give them all your good ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► yes just pick and choose you should write an advice song-ah meta meta stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6775">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► here at the end of the show medicine of stuff that's coming out is I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6782">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► live talk show coming up and young as we speak I think 13 days so I got to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► I think fingers crossed that by the time anybody is listening to me tell you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► that the show will probably already be sold out every congratulations man that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► was always the law great hoping to launch soon hopefully it'll be a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► show this year too but if you want to you could go and look at their and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► fireball and see if there's still tickets available so that's coming up it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► is going to be the same venue be Tuesday the day after the keynote at mezzanine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► and here's the more important part so we're limited i think i think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:42 ◼ ► limited to around 500 tickets just with the way we set up the the venue and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6822">TS</a>]
01:53:47 ◼ ► seats and everything like that and it's sold out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6827">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► you know every year so far and I think because last year show blew up and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► so big that it's probably going to be even more in demand this my expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:58 ◼ ► buddy high expectations i wish we could find a bigger venue but it's it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6838">TS</a>]
01:54:04 ◼ ► kind of tight combined with all of the you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuxomELg/6844">TS</a>]
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