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00:03:55 ◼ ► certain tennis shoes with no socks Eddy Cue is not embarrassed at all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/235">TS</a>]
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00:04:37 ◼ ► whereas New York media world is still very you know you wear a suit to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/277">TS</a>]
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00:04:56 ◼ ► have been like 12 years old don't know why was he not wearing socks that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/296">TS</a>]
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00:05:05 ◼ ► to do it because I forget my socks someplace and like have to get my shoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/305">TS</a>]
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00:05:21 ◼ ► and he was on the front page he was wearing sandals sandals are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/321">TS</a>]
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00:05:50 ◼ ► happens when you wear sneakers without socks it's just there's sweat you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/350">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► your feet sweat maybe he doesn't show you turn to smell maybe everyone dad's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/354">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► it happens i wear toms I have these toms shoes i don't know if they I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/358">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► make male Tom's but Tom's are the same thing you're not supposed to wear them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/362">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► with socks but even that in there your feet sway my happy we had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/366">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► conversation about this feet my feet are are extremely I i think half of my sweat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/372">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► glands are in my field I have very very sweaty feet right sometimes before i go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/378">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► to bed my feeders this way put my feet in the shower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/382">TS</a>]
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00:06:52 ◼ ► know what it is like wall or fake wall but all this like fuzzy stuff on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/412">TS</a>]
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00:08:54 ◼ ► it was about Apple's hard-charging negotiations and that their their stance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/534">TS</a>]
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00:09:02 ◼ ► the package they want to offer and I think it's so transparent that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/542">TS</a>]
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00:09:11 ◼ ► journal to try to press the matter and they're making it sound like Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/551">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► being a I don't know what the word is arrogant are arrogant maybe yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/555">TS</a>]
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00:09:26 ◼ ► one that can afford to wait they can wait forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► they can never offer a TV package and it will be okay right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/568">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► well it seems like also there's there's things that Apple's asking for like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/572">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► won't be upping the rates of the of this shows i guess that's a typical thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/576">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► yeah yeah they're certainly hard lining to to get this in their favor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/581">TS</a>]
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00:10:00 ◼ ► get this internet and then this TV package but then once that promotions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/600">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► over the eat your cable bill just starts going from my Katie 92 93 to the a96 72 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/606">TS</a>]
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00:10:17 ◼ ► that Apple's world is if they say yes 2999 it's 2099 and it's not that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/617">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► not going to go to silently change 231 dollars in 23 minutes just so the ESPN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/623">TS</a>]
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00:11:25 ◼ ► want to work with them obviously but and did they specifically mentioned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/685">TS</a>]
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00:22:55 ◼ ► and a lot of people actually emailed me about it after I'm it's a pain i used a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1375">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► macbook air 11-inch which I loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► I really did love the size for years years and years it was one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► favorite macbooks I've ever had but I remember the one time I was at WWDC and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► I wanted to download all the iOS betas and stuff that they had released and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► Wi-Fi there was no way you could possibly do it was like you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► will take 17 days over one right and so they had all these ethernet things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► you could download and was like super fast ethernet you could download in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► five seconds and of course i forgot to pack my ethernet uncle yeah eventually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► found a friend it's you know it's lucky that I have no lots of people there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► I reckon you know found somebody who I knew and I was like hey can I borrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► that and did but i just saw somebody a friend not a friend but somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► following twitter was at the democratic national convention here in philly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► was like I need an unheated service like uber that will but will deliver a USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► ethernet adapters to that to the convention commission right so it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► yeah I mean yeah this thing's called the hyperdrive USB type-c [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► 5in1 hub anyone's interested but I'm i will put it in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► yeah i mean i don't know i like I think that this next macbook pro is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► the answer for me and but i don't know i don't know where it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► I mean it's there it's gotta be coming I mean it's been so long it's got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► coming and it's to me what's odd is that it didn't come before back to school but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► it wouldn't really work with with apples timing on the max yeah i mean it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► a tough situation to tell students with to buy right now I'm because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► this is a computer that should last them for the next four years and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► think the macbook airs is good enough you know its insurance it's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► the lower end option but you know some that are not expected to be a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► product i've said a few times that my really biggest regret with my interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► with Phil Schiller and and Craig federighi at WTC was that I didn't bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► this up i really wanted to I almost did and then I lost it just got lost in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► flow of the conversation and it didn't seem right to go back to it and i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► regret it because i think it's an important topic i really would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► interested to hear shoulders take on any other thing about it is at the time of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► the interview so there's like second week in june $YEAR the day after WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► add when I was sort of kind of hoping that they have a surprise announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► with the new macbook pro that it was only like a one day old wound in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► psyche that they didn't have a new macbook pro I didn't really say I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► feel at that moment just how weird it was going to feel this summer that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► whole summer is going to go buy it was like it just felt like at that moment in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► June the macbook pro is a little old ready for an upgrade and the addition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► this summer and in particular with especially with I think with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► notebooks the thing about summer is like you said back to school and we write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► big time to buy notebooks just how weird that would it if it feels so much older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► now i get i know it's only like six weeks after WTC right now as we speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► but it feels like it's it it crossed the border from being a little old to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► yeah oh yeah i mean and when you look at what what Apple's don't like on the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► with the rest of the line it's not there yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► you know it's there's there's stuff that needs to be flushed out so i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► don't know i mean i look I i want to think it's gonna be enduring the sep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► tember event but I think there's a lot to cover in the sep tember event I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► know I'm but when do it when we when do we expect them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► I i think the September event but only because are mainly because it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► that has to one else would it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► they're not gonna have two events and you know I and theory they could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► like a like a boring update to the macbook pro that just adds you know an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► updated cpu and GPU or something like that but if they do that it then it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► seems ridiculous that they did it took them so long I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► happened I think there's something else I do to identify mean also it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► with Sierra right like there's some hands in Sierra about things that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► yeah I'm so I maybe then that's that you know the timing i don't know NCR went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► did the fall right they just a fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► yeah maybe i don't know i don't have any sources or any insight to the mac line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► yeah the last two years i think the schedule is roughly been a early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► September event with the iphone new iphone coming out like the next week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► the new iOS coming out at the same time or like a day or two before right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► phones and then the new version of mac OS comes out like and they'll tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1674">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► in September but it would that it will be out at the end of october or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► alright so maybe there's something in October yeah but the question is do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► do iPads at this first event you know the iphone event and there's been some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► rumors of new pro a new pro I mean I don't understand how that's really going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► to be updated in a big way but I think there's been some weeks of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► well one thing I've when I but I've speculated about this on Twitter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► other places people have said no there's no way they're going to do they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► share the stage with the iphone but the truth is the last few years they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► actually always shared the stage with the iphone they use the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► world's attention is on the move this announcement everybody's iphone iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► iphone iphone to iphone and they use it but spend most of the event on other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► things like two years ago it was here was like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► yeah last year was apple TV and the data pero right in the ANCYL and all that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► the third party apps that already you know that they've given pre-release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► access to the pencil for round two had 23 you know at the end of the event date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► the three big demo rooms which was like honestly like the iphone was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► smallest part of the thing to see ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► I'm i remember being like oh crap crap I gotta go see the iphone and android yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► there was that whole big room for the apple TV the whole big room for the Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► and then yeah iphone and I always take notes on the time like it you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► much you know when when new products come out onstage and i remember that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► don't think the iphone took more than 20 or 25 minutes it was you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► here's Phil Schiller and 20 minutes of here's the new iphone 6s and 6s plus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► then the rest of the show was apple TV & and ipad pro yeah i think that i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► if you look at the heart I think if I think there's there's a hardware to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► in three places in the fall and think it's iphone it's mac and i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► watch and I think ipad the reason i say that is because of the software like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1793">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► what we saw at wec they were clear hints about hardware improvements that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► be that would optimize for the software or vice versa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► I'm I don't feel that way about ipad but you know I don't know and you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► with ipad there's so many software things that I feel like need to be fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► and I'm or with you as it moves to the Pro and I feel like we think of a sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► of that and I was 10 and yeah and and there's been rumors Federigo 40 choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► you know the grand by far away go-to guy the guy max stories the go-to guy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► ipad productivity and this guy's been like living his life with all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► crazy workflows and stuff like that on the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► it is all of his work on ipad what he heard was that it's I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► they're gonna number it but that it's more or less that the major improvements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► to iOS with a focus on ipad pro and and Pro users is sort of like an iOS 10.1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1854">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► type thing that might be like january-february that's great that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► great rapport a rumor that mean that that would make more sense i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► how much those wishful thinking like yesterday we all want the hemorrhaging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► like it's so true i like a who's podcast was ipod and was like I feel like many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► times apple rumors are just what people want like the android for I message for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► android rumor like and add we should talk about that because that you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► think both of us sort of four hoping for something like that at WABC but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► and it was pretty unreliable sources that you know but it's like everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► wanted it so everyone said yeah this is a rumor that you know the people wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► it and I mean I'm not saying it's it's unreliable maybe somebody really did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► have good sourcing on that but that felt like one which was like oh yes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► what I want it was Mac Daily News which is a weird website that has been around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1913">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► today I'm almost certain it predates daring fireball I think it's been around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► since like the late nineties and it's a uh I don't know if he's secret and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► don't even know if it's really he I don't know I'd like but it did however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► it is who writes it doesn't never put a byline on it so like when I link to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► rumor and he doesn't usually have news it's usually more like he points to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► yeah right he'll usually linked to my staff I didn't realize that's where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► yeah he he said you know it was his original thing that he heard from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► reliable source that Apple's working on a I message for android and that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► going to come out at WWDC and so when I liked what I was like because I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► like to put the name of whoever wrote it like the reporter you know I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► like to just say the Wall Street Journal says I like to say you know here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► reporter writing for The Wall Street Journal right because I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► important and so for his i wrote whoever the hell it is you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► back accidentally news right I have heard i can say i haven't seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► personally but I have spoken to people at Apple who have seen the mock-ups of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► message for android so I don't know that it exists like that they have like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► app that's been made but there is absolutely been conservation of it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► but the guy then I think it makes sense and and cook has said and I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► there's two interviews where he said we we are making it a priority to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► service our services to other platforms and i think it was around the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► launch or something around then and what I heard and this makes total sense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► sounds very happily was that it was a series of ten mock-ups of what I messed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► complete mock-ups of what I message for android would look like ranging from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► like 11 would be it just looks exactly like the iOS version and 10 is looks as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2031">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► much like pure what what's the google you i am called material this material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► design uh as as pure material design as possible with like 2 through 9 being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► continuum of how much it looks like that which is also to me an interesting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► in terms of the difference between Google and Apple where Google stuff on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► iOS is very popular and but yet really looks a lot like right material design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► and Apple music on Android i think is actually pretty you know on that scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► of one to ten I think it's sort of like a seven or an eight it's it's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► android like then iOS like to my eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► yeah I i actually can't say I've ever used it so well i've i've installed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► on my little I've seen the screenshots then fold it and poked around just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► see like what the sharing she looks like and stuff like that but anyway I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► here's my argument for my argument for putting some credibility on it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► someone that rumor leaked a lot of people wrote to me and said no way would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► Apple do this because they sell hardware they you know it behooves them to keep I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► message proprietary but my answer to them is nobody buys an iphone to get my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► it's it's a nice thing to have once you have an iphone and you're in the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► that's not a selling point it's just a nice thing you get afterwards I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► where Apple could make some money on this is if they if they add payments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► yeah if I can send you money by Apple pay over I message then I think it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► all the sense in the world for there to be an android version right I i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► question nobody buys at an iphone because of my message i think it is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► of the lock-in apps that sort of like I wouldn't consider going to an android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► mostly because of my message like there's a fit i have a family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► conversation I have a friend conversation all of you know these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► groups in my life and their own I message that's a penguin and i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► think i can get them all to pick up and go to whatsapp or facebook messenger but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► I don't look I don't think I i don't know i don't know enough about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► market of how big that market is for people who feel like I messages the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► reason I'm you know there's there's plenty of other great things that an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► iphone that probably wasn't a good point i actually i'm gonna i'm gonna say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► change your mind yet you yeah because that you know what I was I was too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► focused on the upfront idea of buying an iphone whereas once you have an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► and you're used to I message it absolutely is a reason that you'd be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► little reluctant to switch right so it is it's the lock-in angle that it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► than the $MONEY up front angle like once you have it you don't want to lose it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2197">TS</a>]
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00:36:46 ◼ ► you know I put my sim in but I'll still keep my iphone on Wi-Fi or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► because I gotta I gotta get my messages and I hear you talk about my singing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► with my Mac but you know I'm i think that like many times I think Apple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► it's not like apple doesn't enjoy locking features but i don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► they prioritize them over other things and I don't think that I think whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► lock-in advantages they see with iMessage being ios-only for mobile could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► the money they could make by having a Apple pay as a device to device payment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► mhm I can't know but there is a trade-off there there's stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► trade-off i think i'm going to right now just like I wish that I mean and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► it will be with the new I message and I was ten like venmo will be easier Lee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► and integrated into the what are they called message apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► mhm I'm but I don't see why apple juice just do it itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► mm you know what I mean like why doesn't it just power through Apple pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► I you know say i want to spend $15 22 Gruber and I you know in inside and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► message window i hit my hit touch ID and it goes through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► yeah I think it definitely should write this just happened i don't know i'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► writing my column for next week is all about the chip card disaster and so i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► i'm very very into payments right now I'd love payments i love I've Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► yeah this is great I i was just talking about this last week on my show with jon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► fleischman that it somehow i don't know if it if if it just is coincidence but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► whole bunch of places here in Philadelphia have just upgraded their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► their terminals and put in the chip readers yeah and they all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► handwritten stickers yeah yeah ChIP chip networking chip doesn't work yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► no get up yet don't chip here yeah I'm like I've spent a lot of time reporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► the story and i'm excited about it because it's been such a disaster in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► York to its been a national disaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► it's it's a headache it sista but I'm i actually think I'm not gonna split my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► column here yeah maybe you could give me basically i think that this will push us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► it's actually the best thing that could have ever happened to Apple pay and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► android pay because all of the terminals that are being installed have NFC and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► them and so it's basically a software upgrade on the point-of-sale people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► companies have spoken to to enable that for that for the retailer's yeah and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► thing that's interesting to me is that you don't need to see the Apple pay logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► for Apple pay to work it's just like the one that just looks like a little almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► looks like a Wi-Fi symbol and it right it always it always works there were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► ones that work yeah there was one time last week where it didn't work for me at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► starbucks and gave me at like I don't really got into some kind of circle but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► then the next day I went back and and it worked again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► yeah with no Apple pay logo on the starbucks one great yeah it's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► because starbucks does support apple pain they never have signs that say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► have this there and that's one of the things I'm writing in this pieces that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► you set up your phone for Apple pay and just try it first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► I mean you know you're already gonna lose a lot of time out yet with the chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► I get it but you know ability it's kind of like the same amount of time to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► try it doesn't work you have your credit card i it and it's so funny because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► Apple pay what was it two years ago when it first came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► yeah and its second and whole foods had it and I'd use it there and I'd get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► what was that you know I Kelly act that you know what are you doing there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► now all of a sudden that it's working and all these other places i'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► it all over again like people who have never seen a potentially what did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► just do it I'm like it's called apple p you'd like just take a picture your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► credit card you know go to the wallet app take a picture credit card and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► you can just go up two places and and just put your finger on the thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► they're like that is the coolest thing I've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► yeah i think a lot of people don't even know that it's there and and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► also now that it you know it's it's gonna probably work more and more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► more phones it's it's I think it's a the chip thing has been a disaster but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► think there's a silver lining in it I noticed it was a very interesting to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► as a user experience critic i bought some shorts at j.crew and they had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► chip thing and your shorts did know how that the terminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► uh-huh and I put my I put my credit card in for the chip and then went through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► the chip process and when it was done it was like authorizing you wait a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► and then when it was done it made this terrible noise like and and and now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► and on the little terminal it says remove card now remove right now right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► in all capital letters and so somebody decided that to make sure nobody forgets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► their credit cards that right better make a scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► yeah it's the complete opposite of Apple pay went out yeah it is confirmed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► get this beautiful i am i some kind of money i'm going through the video right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► now I'm trying to collect these sounds so like we're at we're like we actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► to hold the mic up at the at the register you know to get the the sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► but you're totally right i know exactly what you're talking about so with Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► pay you get this beautiful thing and it just feels like hey you just did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► something cool you're living in the future and with the chip you get like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► this yeah sounds like the star trek you know red alert when the Klingons are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► attacking like you're about to die right now the whole the whole situation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► everything it does feel like taking 15 steps back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► I'm with the whole payment system is like I get it secure but like I'm having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► this hugely awkward 10 seconds where I don't really know what to do and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► yeah i've also like I mean New York City store clerks are sort of fed up with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► because I've been going into stores and doing six methods of payment so like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► collect all this stuff and I like I'm gonna actually put this on six separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► cards did it at trader joe's which is like typically the longest lines in new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► york city and the local woman was like just dying she's like this is so cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► who's gonna win neck but yeah so I'm payment obsessed but I look forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► it i think that it's it's just so interesting to me that it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► Apple pay was ahead of its time because it's already here and ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► capitalize on this seemingly mass turnover and point-of-sale terminals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► yeah and it's actually it's I've been thinking back on this because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► now being in the industry for almost a decade you sort of get to to really see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► those moments when a company does you know as as it usually typically is apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► takes what has been going on and makes it really really seamless and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► was thinking back to Google Wallet you know I i was one of the people who wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► about the first impressions of google wallet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► and you know it was like this hugely clunky thing where you have to hold the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► phone up to the right thing yet to launch the app you know it only worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► on the Nexus was at the nexus might have been just the nexus of the Samsung Nexus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► you know and it only worked at like one retailer in the country and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► didn't work right and then so you know you had a couple of iterations of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► and then you know then Apple pay comes out of whatever it's actually probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► like four years later Apple pay you know requires the fingerprint it works really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► well it launches the thing and that we have samsung pay that basically does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► same thing even better because it works at more places and we have android pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► that also does the same thing so you know it was theirs took it a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► of time for us to get here and there's certainly a uphill battle as you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► lot more retailers have to try and support this but it really does feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► like there was this turning point with Apple pay ya i really want to see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► NFC stuff go elsewhere to like I i really want to see the airport switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► from those infrared scanners yeah you two NFC i hate i just hate put my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2696">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► down like when they want you to like let go your phone and put it on the fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► you know what I mean right yeah i just had an ear and I so badly wanted them at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► the subways and metrocards it's just I'm constantly not sure which money's on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► card and you lose the card yes absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► yeah there's so much more potential and I mean I really do think at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► you know the phone is is obviously the wallet but there's just you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2727">TS</a>]
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00:47:39 ◼ ► called the blue r 1 HD which is kind of a mouthful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► that's this is the phone that it's made by a company called blue and amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► selling it for fifty bucks and how much is the one with more storage as 60 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► it's just so funny like with Apple it goes up a hundred dollars to get more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► right yeah yeah because of ten dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► yeah it's yeah yeah not a hundred sixty dollar a pretty decent android phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► the biggest catch is that when you the lock screen is full of Amazon's special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► I think that Amazon could have some serious success with this guy i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► know i don't want to bet on it because I feel like Amazon's never really been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► able to sell phones but I feel like if anything is going to work into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2909">TS</a>]
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00:48:40 ◼ ► this model it could be really interesting i think in these in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2920">TS</a>]
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00:48:49 ◼ ► phones in a way like you know if you're be broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2929">TS</a>]
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00:48:55 ◼ ► markets as people who break iphones or galaxy phones and don't have the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2935">TS</a>]
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00:49:05 ◼ ► have insurance etc so they buy these phones and sort of hold onto it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► couple months or you know it's used for travel or to use for kids and so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► sort of like lower end phones in that sense but yeah I think for for amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► this is sort of makes the most sense and even I think they're I think even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► without the ads I spoke to an analyst even without the ads they could probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► stand to take to bring down the price and take a hit if they're really loading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► up with some of their services right because when you get the phone you log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► into amazon and it sort of logs you into all the Amazon apps so you know music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► and alexa and kindle shopping and kindle exactly exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► notice it's pretty good experience for four if you're really all in on amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► and it's it it seems so much better than the fire phone that they tried like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/2993">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► years ago which really was i mean hands off them for trying something new but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► just seems like that whole project went way off in the rain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► else once they started going in the direction of having the user interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► that tilts in 3d as you move the phone it's like it you know cool demo but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► a terrible idea for action and usability and they got they were too close to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► to recognize that and actually brought it to market you know and they also were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► cutting off google services which was just like what are you you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► you know in many ways amazon's a perfect complement to google on the phone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► it's not a replacement right now because like everyone doesn't offer email right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► yeah yeah where our anyone but what maps to with wood amazon app however you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► calorie right it's like with the with the Alexa what it was in my device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► called when i talk to my LexA except echo Michael yeah I i just want to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► it my act my alexa i allow yeah if you want to get your calendar on their you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► you know the best did really the only integrated calendars google calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► examples i have a calendar product right and you know in terms of Amazon's bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► line and trying to get you to buy things like Google doesn't try to really get us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► to buy things other than it's sort of the ads it wants us to get to I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► know with with amazon that is sort of integrated experience of of books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► and and movies and music I mean yes obviously google also has their solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► there but it's it's not the first thing that comes to mind when I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► Google yeah so I mean it's a pretty good experience for for an Amazon user you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► know I I wasn't crazy about the ads on the lockscreen I just think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► pretty personal thing and it's it's funny you kinda like you know you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► to keep looking to see what the next one's going to be but I feel like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► would get a little old you've got and you've you've got your dog on your lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► screen right i have my dog my life story of course and so when you're trying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► blue phone and instead of seeing your your dog you see an ad for virgin i saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3118">TS</a>]
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00:52:25 ◼ ► few like a dietary supplement is that what are you trying to tell me amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► and then one of them was that for typing tutor and it was like what why would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► am a great typer I'm gonna be the best type or i know i'm just like Donald [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3153">TS</a>]
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00:52:43 ◼ ► typer your love typing it is to the you do take those things personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3163">TS</a>]
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00:52:54 ◼ ► mean it probably do but whatever i don't need Mavis bacon telling me yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3174">TS</a>]
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00:53:04 ◼ ► cheap that hardware is and how impressive it it is for the price you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► know i'm i'm impressed that their CEO was so honest with you you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► this is a fun people by one they you know you know can't afford to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► they just broke their two-year-old seven hundred dollar iphone or galaxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3197">TS</a>]
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00:53:24 ◼ ► thirty dollars we would you know probably not great cameras but certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► good enough for many people and they're selling a lot of those two you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► in this whole phenomenon happening in Android phones the best android phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3213">TS</a>]
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00:53:40 ◼ ► this one this new one plus is amazing for the price you know a great camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► fingerprint sensors were great good build good screens you know your when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3225">TS</a>]
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00:53:55 ◼ ► Android or samsung that's what you're paying 650 dollars for but look if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3235">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► want a good phone and you want to pay four hundred dollars you're getting an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► android phone and it's funny I guess you're getting up as s at NSE right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► mean is known as he is it isn't as a iphone SE costs for 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► yeah 499 I forget maybe 399 i think i might start but that is 16 gigabytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► yes i was i just pretend like it doesn't exist right i think right 499 to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► like original measurement when I was my scoop of the summer and that was the my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► you know that the I the next iphone will start at 32 gigabytes my sources say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► that is I hope you're right i really hope your trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► oh I mean I reported in that prison on you know don't upgrade your iphone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► now or don't buy an iphone right now is sort of hidden in there but that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► that was the best I could dig up on that on the new life huh i miss that but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► is actually wonderful i would've been on I have no inside information on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► whatsoever but it's just my gut feeling that it it's just preposterous it if ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► and then I think Apple heard that but I think also the cost of storage is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► down that it doesn't affect their bottom line anymore to just give us 30 to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► question then when I couldn't get sources on we're sort of the tears that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► would be happening after that i'm obviously there's these rumors that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► go all the way up to 256 and I i believe that so I don't know because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► camera in my opinion that's the single biggest reason is that these cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► that the still images are like if you have live picture on there like 13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3325">TS</a>]
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00:55:45 ◼ ► it was because the camera guy had gotten better and you want then we had added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► for cake they had added 4k video and we were still stuck with a base of 16 or 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► video at a 16 gigabyte storage card is it's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3356">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► it just does not it doesn't job and it's and look it's not enabled out-of-the-box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► but I'm Apple was marketing that this was this was a 4k capable phone and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► were certainly I mean the biggest marketing . was the live photos which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► were three times the size of your regular photos so you know give us the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► storage and it sounds like we're gonna get the storage so i'll stop complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► no I don't have . complaining about battery life but we'll see about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► yeah so it's 499 for the 64 gigabytes SE and it is 399 for the 16 gigabyte SE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► alright so yeah alright those decent at a decent value in comparison to the $400 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► android phones on the Apple side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► no I think that's so unbelievable to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► Blue is just admit that you know hey that's what these you know some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► market for this is people who just need to stop over phone just pop your sim in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► there and get x 41 yeah you know I actually i might end up buying one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3416">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► because what I usually do is I have this new process which I read about last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► which is that i will sell my iphone about a month ahead of the new launch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► make back a good amount of money on it and then i'll put that money towards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► next iphone instead of doing these upgrade plans this is just worked for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► and I'm lucky enough to have enough phones lying around that i have a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► a loaner phone for the month of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► august-september but you know the blue is actually a great option for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► who are just like I know I'm going to get the next iphone i want to make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► know 500 you know 550 depending on what size phone you have in you know selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► it at the end of august or $MONTH beginning of august and use the blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► yeah I also think and you were saying about how a lot of that the android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► phones you know I all have good screens all have good cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► it's I've noticed that too and it's not surprising because i think that it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► you know this is the single most competitive market in all of consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► I mean it's everybody has a I just come phones down but everybody has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► smartphone and it's funny how that the technology the the water finds its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► level fairly quickly we're just a few years ago I i mean i remember that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► the top of the line android phones had the worst color on those OLED screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► like at it and for someone picky like me it was just unbearable like the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/3503">TS</a>]
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01:10:42 ◼ ► windows as a UI nerd and critic is the way that they often have those windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► where there's both like ok cancel and read write and it's like I think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► it's a really bad design but if you're going to do that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► it is very natural to think as a just a normal person who doesn't think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► the UI just you know reacts to it that the red X means do nothing that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► like Ansel right that should not really hitting the red X to close the windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► should not mean okay go ahead and do this super significant almost risky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► thing right and actually it the pop-up that I put in the in the article i wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► it says you know sorry to interrupt but this is important Windows 10 free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► upgrade offer will and july twenty ninth right this big text right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► underneath it says upgrade now within a box or remind Lee remind me later in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► box and that's all those are the main options right but then in the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► left-hand corner and i'll send you this link it says do not notify me again in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► similar purple to the purple pop-up so it's almost like so hard to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► it's like it you wouldn't you wouldn't notice it right like if you get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► pop-up you just wanted to go away either hit the X or hit remind me later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► right because you don't have any other option is this happening in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4321">TS</a>]
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01:12:08 ◼ ► terrible you know the and it's crazy it's just like that's not fair to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► but then you know what I couldn't get and and i think this is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► happens it's happening and I i think this is actually a separate piece it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► happening to everyone all of our operating systems i talked about in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► piece but you know android/ios it doesn't matter mac windows these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► companies want to get you on their newest operating system they want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► it for a couple of reasons you know in in Microsoft's case is actually a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► bit unclear obviously they would love everyone to be on it I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► there is some some data mining going on that I think really does benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► microsoft in the cases of Apple it always seems like its security and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► seems like a bragging right that they get to say everyone is on this latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► operating system but certainly security and features play pretty high on the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► of the list of of why they want people on the new software notice there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► something else i'm missing I mean what is the other main reason these companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► want us on their latest software i know i think you hit him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► Security's 1i think new features that they want people to have access to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► another you know I know with with iOS and mac OS to a lesser degree i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► but with iOS i know that there are and I've written about it many times there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► often complaints from people with like three year old iphones right who find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► that their experience degrades after they go ahead and do what is obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► what Apple want you to do is and I think that they've changed it i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► that it automatically updates but they've made it even more aggressive i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► think starting last year in terms of ya one should automatically but it will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► it's that I think there's the same options upgrade now remind me later and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► you know there's no I think what they've changed I I know it I know what they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► done is that they've changed it works like upgrade now and like the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► yeah the next button which makes you think like it's maybe like now don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► it really means i'm gonna do it when you plug me in a right I'm going to schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► yeah yeah that's what it is and it's Loula you know it's nowhere near as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► sneaky as I think what Microsoft is doing but you could argue that it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► not bad UI design it's sort of snappy UI design who write um it's definitely the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► case that the security issues are real though like that for sure i was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► on this your last week with inflation about these these bugs that were fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► in this these image format things where you know did all these bugs were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► discovered where that the way that you could send somebody and I message with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► aid maliciously designed image and just by looking at the iMessage you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► you could be exploited and they fixed it but they've only fixed it in the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► latest versions of iOS and Mac os10 and at least to my knowledge they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► done like so if you're like you know Yosemite still you do you don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► fix for this yet so the only way to get these fixes is to stay like totally up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4504">TS</a>]
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01:15:16 ◼ ► also tell users because that's that's scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► that's you know you don't want to be put the blame for that and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► anything else that you wanted to talk about this week's Joanna so many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4525">TS</a>]
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01:15:35 ◼ ► about is I looking at everybody's results some strong quarters from lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► of people facebook and google both did really well online advertising Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► not so good and I i don't know i'm not a business expert I could be totally wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► I have a gut feeling like twitter is not long for this world as an independent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► company i think somebody is gonna require them and i did my question is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► who I can answer my question if verizon by yahoo why not verizon I think for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► aizen's got all this money and they want content right I'm not trying to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► good idea i'm not saying the verizon would be good or bad as parent but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► could see them being interested in it i can see that to also just for this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► of TV integration to ya nabi asked and comcast is is would be another one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4578">TS</a>]
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01:16:27 ◼ ► are sort of looking to own content right right just a gut feeling I want to be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► want to be able to say I was right when Twitter ends up being acquired sometime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4594">TS</a>]
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01:16:46 ◼ ► know i don't know that makes sense is the right way to think about it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4606">TS</a>]
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01:16:57 ◼ ► put put it in my head to where verizon buying yahoo doesn't make much sense to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► me but then I realized like so stop thinking of who would make sense for to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► buy Twitter and just think who would do it and that's what made me think like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4626">TS</a>]
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01:17:17 ◼ ► when you think of Twitter as like you know I said a couple of months ago when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► pissarro you know Twitter really isn't a social network it's a it's a media site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4641">TS</a>]
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01:17:32 ◼ ► they're starting to get into it a little bit more i think also the focus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► periscope there's been a lot of updates to periscope which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► it's a sad thing is now everyone's out using facebook live and it's gotten tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► abuzz this summer and you know this was an opportunity Twitter really could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4663">TS</a>]
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01:17:52 ◼ ► weeks as a political junkie watching that the two conventions it seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► whenever they were talking about people streaming stuff from their phones it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► always it was just facebook live was what it was almost like you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► like in Chelsea Clinton speech last night when she was talking about our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► grandkids talking to Hillary Clinton she just said facetime you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► FaceTime right thing right when you talk that's just what people say and that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► this like broadcasting I'm here and I'm gonna broadcast people on social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► networks Facebook life definitely and I like periscope and IO periscope you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► continues to thrive but it seems like Facebook live just swooped in and ate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► their lunch right right i mean because people are there and also periscope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► really not till like a couple of months ago was really sort of integrated in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► Twitter experience right i mean it's sort of like was like we own this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► and you can get your twitter followers integrated here but like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► watching one of those through the twitter apps and stuff was not a was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► a thing and now they've worked on that integration more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► yeah yeah that was that was my last thing I join us on thank you so much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► your time always have a confession i've been thinking about our the apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► a lot lately because I finally I I'm gonna I i took mine off for a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► months i just did not find it useful a 44 things that I mace mostly i use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► but watch to tell the time and when i was working out and it's sort of like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► just got tired of working out with it on it was just it lost its its relevance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► me what do you think you think there's gonna be a new one and in the fall you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► know what that's an excellent i had it's like everybody's saying iphone iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► iphone let's you know it's going to look like the old iphones kind of a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► camera is gonna be there's gonna be lighter is going to be way faster what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► I'll and find my phone up yeah no headphone all this you know but its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► pages and pages and nobody's talking about Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4778">TS</a>]
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01:19:44 ◼ ► know I really no indication about this all right and we've heard no leaks which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► is interesting but i only think that because of watch os3 and so as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4788">TS</a>]
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01:19:56 ◼ ► don't have os3 on here but I keep thinking this thing's gonna be so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► better with when I have watched us three on here and then I sort of keep thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► what would the hardware improvements be that would make that even better and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► happen to think they all a lot of them are fitness-related I'm because that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► the real focus at wwc yeah I think fitness-related I think that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► realized you know with one sit-down a real world that the fitness stuff is off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► the charts popular so it seems like there could be design considerations to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► emphasize that more and I think now that they've rethought the way that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► two buttons work the crown right but that's right that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► they've rethought the way they work in the u.s. I think for the better even on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► the old watch the existing watch that we know but if they're rethought them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► that in the software why not I don't know what they would do I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► it's something to make them even more apt to the new purpose in the OS totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► tony and i think that and I think the thing could be thinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► yeah for sure yeah so and battery life possibly a little bit better but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► you know and i find it crazy that there's no speculation about it I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► know we have had something to do with the fact that like somehow in the supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► chain they've got a new you know they're doing it in a way that actually can hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► the secret in a way that the iphone supply chain obviously can't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► and because of that if it doesn't leak through the supply chain it just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► percolate out to our speculation but seems crazy to me that there's not more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► speculation right now at the beginning of august the end of july about a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► that I think we're going to hear about in like six weeks right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► maybe it doesn't ship that no I just like they did you buy but this year they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► would have to ship before Christmas right right exactly where right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► November yeah they could ship as late as like early November I think but that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzaSG3s/4893">TS</a>]
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