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167: ‘Hey Bruh You Bumped Muh Hat’, With Special Guest Jim Dalrymple

 

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00:00:26   the performance made me feel weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/26">TS</a>]

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00:00:57   she's a talented artist on I understand that a lot of people really like her but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/57">TS</a>]

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00:01:31   and everything to go into the hands on and when Tim ended his keynote segment I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/91">TS</a>]

00:01:36   thought all right you know as early as our hands-on I mean they're usually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/96">TS</a>]

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00:02:08   posture something I felt overwhelmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11   I don't know there was a biker bar that just it i don't know sometimes it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/131">TS</a>]

00:02:16   like I the music side of Apple is just trying to herd and and that that's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/136">TS</a>]

00:02:25   of what did that seem I mean if they ended it with you know what upbeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/145">TS</a>]

00:02:28   artist and everything was great and cool then and you know the only people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/148">TS</a>]

00:02:34   looked around the only people that stood and clapped for the performance were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/154">TS</a>]

00:02:41   from apple and although all the reporters and even the ones around me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/161">TS</a>]

00:02:47   we're sitting there with their jaws open like what was ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/167">TS</a>]

00:02:52   what just happened I I you know and I don't expect apple to pick music from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/172">TS</a>]

00:02:58   itunes library every every time once in awhile would be nice oh well the Foo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/178">TS</a>]

00:03:04   Fighters was my favorite beyond that was nosing around i love the food fighters I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/184">TS</a>]

00:03:09   don't even like going to concerts i really dont my wife does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/189">TS</a>]

00:03:12   I don't I find I don't know it's too loud but if if if you reached certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/192">TS</a>]

00:03:17   threshold though then I will go and i love it i've been to see I've seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/197">TS</a>]

00:03:20   Foo Fighters many many times and it not only do I love their their record studio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/200">TS</a>]

00:03:24   music foo fighters I don't have you ever seen in life they are fantastic life i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/204">TS</a>]

00:03:27   have for you i noticed I'm live at the applicant saw them at the apple of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/207">TS</a>]

00:03:30   and they were fantastic there and you have left feeling really good i mean ii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/210">TS</a>]

00:03:36   like that event feeling good but you know for four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/216">TS</a>]

00:03:39   apple is not new to having musical acts on I'm uh that the their their events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/219">TS</a>]

00:03:47   that's nothing new but it was always here are great products and and focus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/227">TS</a>]

00:03:55   the products of focus was always on the products and then at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/235">TS</a>]

00:03:58   oh yeah here's you know some band from Ireland the ideas you too and I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/238">TS</a>]

00:04:04   it was it was a big part it was a an exciting thing to have a big band here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/244">TS</a>]

00:04:12   here's here's a foo fighters but it was never the focus it was never the focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/252">TS</a>]

00:04:17   the products were always the focus arguably the YouTube one the u21 i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/257">TS</a>]

00:04:22   stockholm you oh boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/262">TS</a>]

00:04:23   the u21 was arguably distracting from the products because of the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/263">TS</a>]

00:04:28   three-album thing and the awkward interaction between Tim cookin and bono [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/268">TS</a>]

00:04:36   regarding and the 321 countdown were pulling a switch and yeah it it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/276">TS</a>]

00:04:42   know seemingly under-rehearsed and ill-considered and then ended up being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/282">TS</a>]

00:04:47   distraction because the whole everybody gets the album but instead of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/287">TS</a>]

00:04:52   clicking a button to say you know hey i want the album they just forced into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/292">TS</a>]

00:04:56   your your I you know itunes library which went over like a lead balloon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/296">TS</a>]

00:05:01   so arguably i would say that one was distracting to but here's the thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/301">TS</a>]

00:05:04   me it is it's not like hey Apple you have to pick an artist who I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/304">TS</a>]

00:05:08   personally every time because it's never gonna happen because of different people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/308">TS</a>]

00:05:11   have different musical tastes but that previous ones were always just about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/311">TS</a>]

00:05:15   music right so here's an example of somebody who are not a particular fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/315">TS</a>]

00:05:19   but I appreciate that he's a super talented musician john mayall here right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/319">TS</a>]

00:05:24   now IE he's you know I I you know you know you're the guitars but i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/324">TS</a>]

00:05:28   think most people consider him one of the best guitars and in the game get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/328">TS</a>]

00:05:32   super-talented good songwriter as interesting voice I'm just not a fan but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/332">TS</a>]

00:05:37   when he was there it was just john mayer and a guitar and a mic and the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/337">TS</a>]

00:05:42   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/342">TS</a>]

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00:05:47   was it was apple town hall was when Elvis Costello yes and i know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/347">TS</a>]

00:05:54   town hall because I have a vivid memory of it I was like holy shit am i close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/354">TS</a>]

00:05:58   elvis costello know i'm a big Elvis Costello fan I'm you know maybe i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/358">TS</a>]

00:06:01   showing my age love the guy but I think even if you're not an elvis costello fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/361">TS</a>]

00:06:05   it's not like him being up there for two or three songs was distracting because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/365">TS</a>]

00:06:09   it was literally just elvis costello a guitar and my chrome and it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/369">TS</a>]

00:06:13   cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/373">TS</a>]

00:06:14   the thing about the cs show was that it was like this whole production is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/374">TS</a>]

00:06:18   production you know there's a big video screen and there's these dancers running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/378">TS</a>]

00:06:22   around doing weird stuff and and well that's it's like dub DC not this year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/382">TS</a>]

00:06:28   don't think it was this year last year maybe where they had the weekend it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/388">TS</a>]

00:06:32   just weird you know lasers and everything donate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/392">TS</a>]

00:06:36   it's just weird that's what I say you know it's almost like the whoever books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/396">TS</a>]

00:06:41   these acts whether it's Jimmy I vine or whatever I was just trying to hurt he I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/401">TS</a>]

00:06:47   think whoever it is you ever they pick on it just be somebody who's focused on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/407">TS</a>]

00:06:51   yes and that fits with apples apples message that we love music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/411">TS</a>]

00:06:54   whereas the CEO thing is way more than about the music it's it really is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/414">TS</a>]

00:06:59   an interactive you know profession I didn't find I I think you I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/419">TS</a>]

00:07:03   objected to it more than me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   I I it wasn't great objective and I don't object to her her talent I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/425">TS</a>]

00:07:12   would expect that apple would have somebody in in my iTunes music library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/432">TS</a>]

00:07:19   you know like Ozzy or metallic or something I know that that's not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/439">TS</a>]

00:07:23   happen i can hope but I know that that's never gonna happen and I get that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/443">TS</a>]

00:07:29   you know somebody like see ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32   I i think a lot of us and people that I talk to afterwards people that saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/452">TS</a>]

00:07:38   the thing live and on video we're just saying what the hell was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/458">TS</a>]

00:07:45   you know I just it didn't send a good message to me what you think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/465">TS</a>]

00:07:51   opening with tim cook and carpool areas i thought it was super funny i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/471">TS</a>]

00:07:57   liked that a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58   I you know it shows the side of him that you know we don't often get to see and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/478">TS</a>]

00:08:05   I thought it was great that you know they have carpool karaoke and they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/485">TS</a>]

00:08:10   him in there you know I could have done without pharrell I I have zero respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/490">TS</a>]

00:08:17   for Pharrell cause he's a thief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/497">TS</a>]

00:08:20   so I could have done without that but I Tim and James were were awesome you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/500">TS</a>]

00:08:28   serie how is Tim cooker what do you think it's tim cook you know have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/508">TS</a>]

00:08:32   ever have you heard the backstory on fro in that video that they wanted to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/512">TS</a>]

00:08:38   different song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/518">TS</a>]

00:08:39   yeah I I'm gonna tell the story I don't know where you heard it but I heard it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/519">TS</a>]

00:08:44   from the stores I that I can at least related here so the idea was that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/524">TS</a>]

00:08:48   they set up this carpool karaoke in advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   and one of the songs tempt him cook wanted to do is happy and yo vine calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/530">TS</a>]

00:08:57   for l and I think for I was sort of on the fence and a long story short it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/537">TS</a>]

00:09:05   like I want to help will do it and I guess they did it but then they ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/545">TS</a>]

00:09:08   not even using it in the video but for all was still there so they still had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/548">TS</a>]

00:09:11   fell in the backseat and then it was weirdly edited because it was like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14   was there but then it's like everybody when they got you know the gimmick is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/554">TS</a>]

00:09:19   the car pulls up to the back of the bill graham center and and and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/559">TS</a>]

00:09:22   ostensibly United it joke jokes or like a letterman joke really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/562">TS</a>]

00:09:26   tim cook gets out and comes on stage but what else on the car you're where's yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/566">TS</a>]

00:09:30   and I swear to god everybody you were there you were near me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/570">TS</a>]

00:09:34   everybody was like everybody turn to each other and everybody knows it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/574">TS</a>]

00:09:37   like where's 4l yeah it was that there was some funny things in there but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/577">TS</a>]

00:09:42   think overall it went really well I mean you know Tim I wish he had to come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/582">TS</a>]

00:09:49   with the glasses on you know he came out and then now I think coming out with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/589">TS</a>]

00:09:53   in his hand was the right it was the right level of in the gag because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/593">TS</a>]

00:09:57   think we can its you don't want pictures and awareness but no well okay that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/597">TS</a>]

00:10:01   that's probably true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/601">TS</a>]

00:10:02   yeah let's see i wouldn't mind pictures were in those classes so I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/602">TS</a>]

00:10:07   was really good like you said it really did reveal to me what seemed to be a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/607">TS</a>]

00:10:11   genuine side of tim cook that you often don't get to see because he's so on mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/611">TS</a>]

00:10:19   right right like he's not that he's stiff he's not but he is calculated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/619">TS</a>]

00:10:25   night and and like for example you died i actually saw it on your website today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/625">TS</a>]

00:10:32   I don't know what you are Dave link to it but it was on good morning america [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/632">TS</a>]

00:10:36   right yeah I guess you know in a run-up to tomorrow's you know debut of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/636">TS</a>]

00:10:40   iphones and watching everything and you know was that you or was a Dave who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/640">TS</a>]

00:10:47   it and he said you know it's you know all fluff it's not really anything there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/647">TS</a>]

00:10:52   but you know what to expect on a six minute segments in the morning show but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/652">TS</a>]

00:10:55   it's like it is sort of it's like you can't recommend the video is like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/655">TS</a>]

00:10:58   you're really going to learn something like people who listen to the show are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/658">TS</a>]

00:11:01   going to watch it but it is interesting too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   watch it i watched a couple minutes just to see how on . Tim Cook is right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/663">TS</a>]

00:11:08   he's just but you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/668">TS</a>]

00:11:13   unflappable in that type of thing but he's also very very easily is ready for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/673">TS</a>]

00:11:17   any question but it's not you know that the the carpool karaoke tim was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/677">TS</a>]

00:11:22   hey this is me just what I'm like you know you know what I'm just goofin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/682">TS</a>]

00:11:27   really it was actually shown who think to that which it was alright which one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/687">TS</a>]

00:11:31   which explains the you know the kind of negative comments because he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/691">TS</a>]

00:11:36   negative about everything so but anyway it was a good description it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/696">TS</a>]

00:11:43   all fluff and but it's still interesting to think of it in terms of this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/703">TS</a>]

00:11:48   his primary job you know I mean like he's an opportunity came up as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/708">TS</a>]

00:11:51   operation sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/711">TS</a>]

00:11:52   I mean clearly his primary talent is in the actual executive leadership of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/712">TS</a>]

00:11:58   ground beneath the spokesperson stuff does not and never has come naturally to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/718">TS</a>]

00:12:03   him in the way it did this is getting so much better at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/723">TS</a>]

00:12:07   Oh without little without in Milan of being a spokesperson a lot of Steve's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/727">TS</a>]

00:12:11   ability is is not just being able to talk but it's where the emphasis on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/731">TS</a>]

00:12:18   words are and and you know the way that you explain something and that's huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/738">TS</a>]

00:12:24   it's huge and so and Steve Steve never would have done carpool karaoke know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/744">TS</a>]

00:12:29   it would have been funny to see that but no now don't you see the vid the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/749">TS</a>]

00:12:34   video that I posted today Johnny I've says aluminium ya didn't watch that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/754">TS</a>]

00:12:40   like to go after you cut it it's the most hilarious thing I have seen book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/760">TS</a>]

00:12:48   great i was i was actually I I saw it on the weekend last weekend it took me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/768">TS</a>]

00:12:55   until today to to post it but I was laughing I was standing outside by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/775">TS</a>]

00:13:02   myself watching this laughing yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/782">TS</a>]

00:13:07   well speaking of a getting better at speaking on stage jeff williams yes did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/787">TS</a>]

00:13:15   the apple watch part and I get every time he does it I think i'm going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/795">TS</a>]

00:13:21   the same thing which is that it is kind of uncanny how a tim cook like Jeff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/801">TS</a>]

00:13:31   like Jeff speaking about it better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/811">TS</a>]

00:13:35   who's the macromedia guy can lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/815">TS</a>]

00:13:40   software Kevin into software and and fact of Lee jeff williams is hardware I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/820">TS</a>]

00:13:46   mean obviously the design is Jony Ive's and and and his team but that jeff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/826">TS</a>]

00:13:50   williams in addition to his regular duties as chief operating officer is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/830">TS</a>]

00:13:55   point person running the one I like I like Jeff I mean Jeff is also in charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/835">TS</a>]

00:14:02   of you know all the health initiatives that they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/842">TS</a>]

00:14:06   yes you know ya research kid and how LOL in or what's the other one with addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/846">TS</a>]

00:14:12   to research kit there's they have a few of them now I don't know hospital kit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/852">TS</a>]

00:14:17   something that I don't know but I I like Jeff I he is he's getting much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/857">TS</a>]

00:14:23   too and you know then of course you have the best of them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/863">TS</a>]

00:14:29   I think and show her well that's what was to determine all right you know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/869">TS</a>]

00:14:34   with the i said with Renee was on my show last episode I was gonna say last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/874">TS</a>]

00:14:39   week but a closer to two weeks ago but when i was on and I was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/879">TS</a>]

00:14:42   skeptical that Jeff Williams would do the watch introduction and Renee said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/882">TS</a>]

00:14:46   now they're grooming him to do more speaking he's going to do it so being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/886">TS</a>]

00:14:50   right . awarded to Rene Ritchie was jeff williams who did my skepticism about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/890">TS</a>]

00:14:55   wasn't that jeff williams is is not good on stage but that he's a little droll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/895">TS</a>]

00:14:59   you know it has been in the past and i think that in particular neck that's ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/899">TS</a>]

00:15:04   when you're introducing a a software platform for university the hospital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/904">TS</a>]

00:15:11   researchers to conduct a large-scale medical tests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/911">TS</a>]

00:15:15   it's not okay when you're trying to unveil the second generation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/915">TS</a>]

00:15:20   second by revenue in the entire industry watch right on that you've got to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/920">TS</a>]

00:15:26   certain we gotta take your game up a little in terms of enthusiasm and he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/926">TS</a>]

00:15:31   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/931">TS</a>]

00:15:32   really i thought i thought that he was he had like a sort of upbeat enthusiasm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/932">TS</a>]

00:15:38   that was exactly what was called for and I was it his best on stage performing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/938">TS</a>]

00:15:44   greater in agree wholeheartedly I think that that Jeff is doing much better tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/944">TS</a>]

00:15:49   is certainly doing a whole lot better and again this are not professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/949">TS</a>]

00:15:56   spokespeople these are people you know these are leading people in the industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/956">TS</a>]

00:16:00   at these very specific tasks that are related to their job who like once or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/960">TS</a>]

00:16:04   twice a year all of a sudden have the spotlight of a million suns on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/964">TS</a>]

00:16:10   did you see the thing like just how how many people watch these key note that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/970">TS</a>]

00:16:14   Khmer released at which is that said that the peak of the apple event was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/974">TS</a>]

00:16:18   highest accolades ever had for live video streaming acclimate did the live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/978">TS</a>]

00:16:22   video streaming for the Olympics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   yeah that doesn't mean more people that doesn't mean more people watch the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/984">TS</a>]

00:16:28   event watch the Olympics because the Olympics are two week-long event but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/988">TS</a>]

00:16:31   that at their peak at the peak yep there were more people watchin simultaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/991">TS</a>]

00:16:36   so in terms of the actual strain on the Acme network at any given time that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/996">TS</a>]

00:16:41   the highest ever reach so think about that like I think about how nervous I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44   get when I go to a conference with 500 people and get onstage and oh yeah okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:50   imagine if you're getting onto that you're not a professional spokesperson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:54   or speaker and you're getting up there in front of the highest peak audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:58   that remains ever handled there is serious pressure keep in mind that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:03   this peak thing they've also streamed all of steve jobs and stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:08   iphone announcements all everything everything this is ever so that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:14   know so i think what's happened in the past and I'm again you know this is us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:19   you know me and you who would get up there and watch the whole thing we tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:24   I'm not gonna again this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   were real but we get this is what we get to do we had to be armchair critics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:29   criticize i think in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31   somebody like jeff williams and i think we saw the same thing with tim cook in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:34   the early years like when when steve jobs are still around and Tim would come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:38   out and do like the hey how's the mac doing segment that it again he was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:46   bad and he was always rehearse these guys who do their homework right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:50   but i think that the pressure of the moment led them to be a little reserved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:55   and focused on not making a mistake and I think that what you see is as they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1075">TS</a>]

00:18:00   it over and over again and they get confident is that they can lighten up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:04   little bit there's a certain looseness in the body language and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:08   inflection as the words come out that you'd you know certainly see it with tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:12   cook now and I'm so i thought this time that Williams leveled up you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:18   he leveled up a grade level in terms of his onstage presence and really did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:23   good job well and let's be honest the stuff that and that Williams has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:28   announced to date- this last keynote haven't been the most exciting products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:34   hugely important products but not the most exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:38   yeah so you know talking about research kit and what hospitals can do and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:42   diseases and all that wildly important stuff that Apple is doing but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:48   like a new watch our new frontman you know it's hard to to show the exuberance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:53   for that kind of stuff but yes I i agree with you i mean he he's still ran over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1133">TS</a>]

00:19:00   everything he had you know took us through and I am I was impressed him so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:07   in the previous ones kevin lynch was the guy who did a lot of it and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:11   little bit more of an emphasis on a software and again I think it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:17   I wasn't Kevin shot at WTC I think he was and it's same way that Craig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:22   federighi was up on WC to talk about iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:26   yes you know and there is i've written about this you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:31   in response of people talking about the diversity of the people who are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:34   states that you know it matters but that the way it works isn't that Apple just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:39   picks people to do who's going to do this well let's find someone to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:43   about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:43   whoever is up there talking about whatever it is they're talking about has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:47   a direct relationship with the actual service or product right it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:53   there's a pool of spokes people who Apple picks out of the company and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:57   one does that this one does that like Williams is doing the watch because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1197">TS</a>]

00:20:01   directly in charge of the watch and I can't you know it you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:07   crossover and there certainly are multiple people who could do certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:11   things you know like it's not like they couldn't have brought federally yup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:15   again to talk about iOS 10 and they could have like it did the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:20   they did watch hardware have kevin lynch talk about the software because Kevin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:24   Lynch is in charge of the software but i think you know it's it's been a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:29   predictable Apple year in terms of who's on stage for what with at WWDC you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:37   you don't see you know the second year in a row where she learned wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   onstage at WWDC because it was so software focus less and less federighi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:44   do it and federally is a really good speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:46   he is a really good speaker but he has that that fun side of him you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:52   mean you know you were talking before about about Williams and and Tim when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:57   when they first started they were not stiff but very conservative reserved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1257">TS</a>]

00:21:02   right reserved yet and and federal key is is just the opposite of that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:08   he goes out and it's like his hands are going and he's walking around and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:12   joking and you know you had an ad lib this year right where there was that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15   was going over the new photo stuff and one of photos was like was it was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:20   weird group it was like a weird group of kids and something and he just made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:25   was like it's just a very odd photo and because you know that's a really odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:28   photo and everybody laughs you know that is a total ad lib I I like it I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:35   Christ talks because he he does get to the point but he brings some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:40   lightheartedness to it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   and he's become a superstar I mean go to WC and people are oh yeah pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:49   them and you know it's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   Maura they do that more with him than with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:54   Oh without question I've been with you with WC you know people are pushing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:59   out of the way to take pictures with you that's like the only place where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:02   really get that but I and I get on my side I stay in fact that . i do enjoy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:07   but it's there is a subset of it's a it's a significant subset at WC of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:12   people who are like daring fireball fans or you know you see an East you do see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:16   lot of daring fireball t-shirt which is always a thrill for me but it's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:20   a subject whereas I think every single person is there knows who craig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:23   federighi is because they all watched the keynote right i mean that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:26   they're nobody gets to WWDC by accident and you can be noted here right exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:31   he's also a very distinctive looking person it's not like there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:36   guys who look like Craig federighi anyway Apple watch I thought that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:41   was a test you know i'm not surprised I'm not surprised given the price given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:46   how many i see around on people's wrists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:49   I mean certainly when you're in san francisco God you see Apple watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:53   everywhere everywhere but even here in Philadelphia which is not a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:57   you know particularly tech-oriented or cutting edge town i see an awful ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:02   since last Christmas I've really started seeing an awful lot of them but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:06   thought it was really an eye-opening thing was tim cook before before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:09   introduce Jeff Williams put up a thing i said here where the top ten watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:13   companies by revenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:14   yes 2014 and here's the list in 2015 and Apple was second on the list only to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:21   Rolex and they were any of course added we were only there only on sale for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:27   eight months of the year yeah and the other thing that was really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:30   about the list that i don't have had Andy I should see if i can get a link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:34   it but it was really really interesting to me how that list from one to ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:39   jumped back and forth between premium like again rolex was number one and mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:48   market I think number two previously was fossil and they got they got Apple move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:54   them down to three so right there at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56   into was sort of the yin-yang of the watch market right where we're rolex is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1436">TS</a>]

00:24:01   you know you're walking you know just to walk out of the store with a Rolex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:05   you're talking four five six thousand dollars for like stainless steel not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:10   gold as your band model and then fossil you know I I think you could you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:16   get a nice fossil watch for for 70 or 80 dollars right so you're you know and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:20   whole list was sort of like that where you know there's omegas that are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:24   know six seventy thousand dollars i forget there were some companies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:28   sell twenty thirty thousand dollar watches and others that are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:32   likes citizen and psycho who are mass-market 75 to two-hundred-dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:39   watches so I thought that was really interesting and it's interesting to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:43   that Apple sort of the Apple watch sort of straddles those you know those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:48   worlds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:48   hey know you like watches beyond a proj do you have expensive watches I'd have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:57   one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:58   ok and how how do you use that like he just like you normally would him why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:04   would you rather the analog then an Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:08   I because i still like it and I still think the most important the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:13   important reason that I that I where is just to tell the time the end when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:20   travel if i take a vacation it's been on sometimes they take the Apple III I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:25   treat the apple watch as one of several watches that I don't but primarily just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:30   where to I don't know that I don't know how it's going you know and I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:38   love Apple watch that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41   there was a there was a period when i first started wearing it where because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:46   it was new and i was testing it and I wanted to get to know where i work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:49   everyday and i will say that the fitness tracking stuff does it reinforces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:54   wearing it every day because you want to keep streaks going right i mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:57   this i mean you've written about this as extensively as anybody that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:01   literally changed your your lifestyle and your physical health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:04   it has on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:05   and in the street definitely matters i think the more you get into that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:08   might want to wear it all the time but then once you stop wearing it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:11   time in the streaks aren't there it's it's not as the complete the the it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:18   know i don't feel compelled to wear it everyday typically here i'll just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:21   we're in rough you know rough description I often wear my Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:25   on weekdays while i work and it's useful like when i'm up but I can you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:30   I'm just getting up to go get more fizzy water or go downstairs and pour another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:34   cup of coffee and notification comes in i don't have to have my phone with me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:39   can just look at my wrist and see what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   ah when I do go running it's during the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:45   obviously i guess some people run at night but I think in the city it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:48   little dangerous but i know i try to run a couple times a week so I have my watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:53   I always wear the watch for that so i get the fitness tracking but then at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:57   night and as on weekends i usually wear just a my regular watch because i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:01   care about notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:04   really yeah I I kind of like the notifications because it means that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:11   can deal with stuff if I need to and leave it if I don't you know on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:15   watch it's very easy to get a notification if I get something from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:21   no Sean and it says hey whenever you get a minute give me a call as opposed to if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:27   I get something from you and it says I need to talk to you right away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:32   ok well i can i can look at my watch and see Shawn's and say okay I don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:36   do anything I can continue doing what I'm doing as opposed to picking up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:40   phone and seeing Sean's message and you know say now okay i'll call later and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:45   then all there's three emails and although there's something else that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:49   going on as well check twitter why I'm here and it's a 20-minute endeavor every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:52   time you pick up the phone you know well how did this morning you weren't a watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:58   person before though right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1678">TS</a>]

00:27:59   no and I I've said all along one of the things I i set my watch review this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:03   that I got a lot of things wrong in the my first watch review but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:08   conversely Apple got a lot of things wrong in their first version of how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:11   watch works and what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   but one of the things i stand behind and i think i got right right from the start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:20   is that a big chunk of Apple watches appeal is aimed towards people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:25   haven't been wearing a watch for years or maybe never watch and the wrist was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:30   wide open right like it but you're only going to wear like that part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:36   basic fundamental sound super obvious but you have to think about it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:41   you know it it's true just because it's obvious doesn't mean it's not true is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:45   that for anybody to buy an Apple watch they need to have a wrist where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:50   going to put it and if you've got like already wear a watch that you love and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:55   you have no interest in stopping to where you're not going to buy an Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:58   watch right it's you know did that's this is just a fact i think a big part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:04   of the success of Apple watch is there were an awful lot of risks out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:08   that had nothing on him at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   or maybe they had something like a Fitbit or something like that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:14   instead of a traditional watch and the property value proposition of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:18   watch compared to a fitness band was like yeah I'll just take this off put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:22   a drawer and get something that's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:25   no you're you're right you're right about that and I help other people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:29   know who are watch guys and I say that it deliberately because in my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:35   people who are a little bit more interested in watch do tend to be men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:39   and it's not to say that there are women who aren't watch collectors but it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:43   know being quote unquote into watches is overwhelmingly a male thing and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:48   the reason why is because women have all sorts of options for jewelry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:55   yes and and for most men and their personal styles the the really only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1795">TS</a>]

00:30:00   chance they brutally only place for jewelry and most men's and certainly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:04   way I dress and you know that my personal sense of style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:08   the only place where I'm going to put jewelry's is on my my wrist which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:13   know and i'm not saying anything that a lot of people don't realize but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:16   why and I think for watch guys the Apple watches is less appealing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:20   from people who aren't into watches before now the only time thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:25   would make me not wear an Apple watch at this point is if my father gave me his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:32   watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:32   yeah it because a he got that watch from his father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:37   so if i had that I don't know if I would wear it or what I would do with that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:42   haven't really thought about that but that's about the only situation i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:46   think where I would wear something else i know a couple people who are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:51   into our racket you know computers there you know however it is they make their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:55   paycheck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   they're writing about computers are the writing code or you know they're somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1857">TS</a>]

00:31:00   involved in computers who are into watches and it's always mechanical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:05   watches are almost always mechanical watches meaning watches that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:08   that don't take a battery that are F completely mechanical devices and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:14   think there's something to it where if you're doing something computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:18   electronic all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   there is something appealing about a completely non electronic device but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:30   that still works algorithmically like that's the thing is like when you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:35   into watches you start learning about the movements and it's you know and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:39   the actual watch goes and you know you you know that it's like well if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:42   spring has a certain tension it will push this and this gear will turn it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:47   certain rate and that gear will turn at this rate and this thing oscillates and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50   you end up with you know a secondhand that moves it eight times the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:55   between here and there which creates the illusion that it's just smoothly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:58   sweeping around the hand you know if this then that it's it's algorithmic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:03   I feel like there's an awful lot of people who are like programmers or have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:06   a programming type mindset who if they were alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   a hundred years ago they be watchmakers I've had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:13   versation with David aenean of super duper via and dave is a huge watch guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:17   is really useful when i first started getting into watches he taught me i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:21   would say probably 75 percent of what i know and has some really has really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:26   has taste that aligns with mind a lot of ways and he you know he said the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:32   thing you know he's probably just ripped off that hole so he just ripped that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:39   whole thing off from him from like a conversation i had with him it like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:42   c-4 conference like 10 years ago when i first started getting into watches like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45   that the correlation between the logic of programming computers and the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:50   same type of thinking but in a completely mechanical non-electronic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:54   sense of mechanical watches the morning he was going to see you know for taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:58   as well as I go by super duper and there you can call it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:02   go it's a great disk cloning utility format if you've never used that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:05   really ought to look at i've been using it since forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:08   me too so hi Dave yeah anyway the event uh I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:15   so we have to say we left off of Williams right what was an ex the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:20   was there i thought was strong was a chiller yeah probably right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:26   that's really all there was now that i think i left my own here's my notebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:31   so Apple watch came out 1025 about what series to the nike stuff and then 1054 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:41   his iphone so watch got 30 minutes and then chiller was on for 55 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:46   talking about the iphone i thought sure was great and you already said that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:51   it was you know like almost the canonical phil schiller introduces a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:56   iphone introduction shoulder is it's it's tough to explain the shower but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2036">TS</a>]

00:34:09   tend to believe sure when he's when he's talking you know unlike some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:12   like you were talking about before with spokespeople yeah sure it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:17   spokesperson he believes what he's saying he gets up he he tells you one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:22   thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:22   I actually thought this was very interesting and I i think that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:27   happened more this time then with any other Apple Keynote they not only told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:36   you what the new features were they told you why they were important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:41   yeah I think that's trip you know so I like when sure was talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:47   camera any he would say you know it's a six-layer camera and it does a billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:54   actions in 25 milliseconds that you know all the stuff that's fine that that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2094">TS</a>]

00:35:01   great thing to say it's it's perfect for a keynote that you say all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:05   but then he stopped and said and here's what happens during that process here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:11   are the things that we do in here's what happens to your picture anyone through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:15   showing the picture during the six layers and all the things that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:21   on inside there and as it you know a very poor photographer myself I look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:28   that and say oh ok so that means that it's going to be i'm going to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:33   take better pictures and I kind of understand why that I think that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:38   important and here's an interesting fact I just just pick this out and I correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:44   me if I'm wrong but this is and we can talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:47   actually I do want to talk about it this was the tenth generation iphone yeah i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:52   not counting what iphones i'm not counting that are sort of half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:56   generations are the verizon iphone 4 which introduced cdma and in this is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2156">TS</a>]

00:36:02   did the bigger reason I think it deserves the half generation you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:06   designation is it had the the different antenna layout that ended up being used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:12   by the 4s a year later for all of the iphone 4 s's but the verizon iphone for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:18   added that the 4s style and tena lines that didn't have the antennagate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:23   attenuation issue of the iphone 4 i'm not counting the iphone 5c which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:29   plastic but which had the exact same internal specifications as the iphone 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:34   I've the year before it was literally just the outer casing that was different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:38   and the display and everything inside was the same as iphone 5 and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:42   counting the iphone SE e which is of all of those odd ball off generation things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:48   is the one that perhaps most you know qualifies as a half generation because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:52   it's you know really really interesting technology wise but i'm just talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:56   about flagship top-of-the-line iphones the iphone 7 and 7 plus are the tenth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2216">TS</a>]

00:37:00   iphones of those 10 only three were introduced by Steve Jobs the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:06   the 3g the 3gs was during jobs is first medical leave and schiller did it at WWE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:13   still when they were doing at WWDC jobs back for the iphone for the first retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:19   one in 2010 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:20   but then the 2011 was the 4s which was introduced at that sort of somber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:26   maudlin town hall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:29   I mean I don't have stunning if you think about how many people were at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   their the event last week how many I mean everything that place was packed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:37   you know I think that they actually did an iphone introduction and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:40   hundred-person town always amazing but that was the one that was introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:43   just a few days before Jobs died and and I did everything was the day before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:48   day before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:49   yeah i mean i think and you knew the day now I mean obviously you know Tim and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:52   and those guys was close enough that they knew you know they did so out of 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:58   phones shoulders done seven of them which i think it in my mind it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:02   that doesn't sound right to me it seems like I've seem to remember Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:06   introducing lot of iphones but it's actually not true that that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:11   interesting piece of research I didn't know that I think and you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:19   always been good at it but i think this one was as good as ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:23   yeah i I just I enjoy when phil goes up to talk pki maybe it's it you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:30   just no nonsense he gets up there and he's going to tell you and then every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:34   once in awhile i loved i love this line when when he was up talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:39   phony so we're introducing another new color we call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:46   black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:51   I mean I just wanted to stand up and do the slow clap you know like brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:55   that was brilliant Phil you know he had the had the pauses it's black it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2335">TS</a>]

00:39:00   black iphone we call it you know is it gonna be matte black is going to be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:04   fancy color space gray is it going to be spaced black now we call it black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2344">TS</a>]

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00:39:15   going to give you three reasons but first courage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:18   I that was still I still see people even in like they're the iphone reviews this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:23   week bringing that up and ah I wrote a piece I i I'm on board with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:29   I don't want him to he says and I think that the pushback is always it's on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:37   a sort of moral spectrum that this you know Apple you know is doing this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:43   profit they're going to make they're doing it just to make money from their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:47   bought their pods and that's so stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   alright but even if it is even if it was just concede the point that it's a money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:53   grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:53   alright let's just say for the sake of argument that it is a money grab it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:56   doesn't defeat the point that it takes courage to do something unpopular that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2396">TS</a>]

00:40:00   the by i think i wrote an article first I thought it was pretty clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:03   specifically that doing something that you believe to be right but that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:08   know is going to be unpopular when there is right at hand a totally non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:14   controversial option in front of you like if the new iphone 7 still had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:18   headphone jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:19   there would be no outcry there's nobody you know who is going to be outraged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:23   that her still a standard headphone jack right it's not controversial choice a vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:28   controversial choice B its controversial choice a vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:34   and you know that's the way it's always been choice B which is not controversial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:38   and that's why most companies don't make decisions like this before Apple does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:42   that's why Apple was the first to get rid of the cd-rom or DVD drive in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:46   laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   yeah and the floppy disk and with no well at you know everybody says floppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:52   disk and it's a good example is a great example but it's so far in the past like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:56   the DVD one is fairly recent and the outcry was loud it was i well how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2456">TS</a>]

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00:41:13   DVD it's like well guess what it always going to get their act together and give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16   it to a different way and they did and they do it nobody you know it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:21   ridiculous now that it can you imagine if I mean how many years it's been since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:25   you had a laptop with a spinning DVD drive remember how when you're typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:28   you could get feel it spinning yeah yeah okay and you could hear it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:33   I i haven't I I can't imagine having one now I don't need one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:37   and you know what I don't need a headphone jack either and i had so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:42   people come to me and say you know on Twitter or email and say well maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:49   just don't have a good a good set of headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:52   well I have a set at analog set you know with it the headphone cord 8-inch thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2512">TS</a>]

00:42:02   a set of future sonics in-ear monitors $300 they're the best monitors on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:09   market bar none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   I don't care if you talk about ultimate ears or any of that other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:16   these are the best the guy that invented it in ear monitors started future sonics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:23   so he knows his is audio and you probably use those with your iphone yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:29   and i use them i use them to mix music i use them so use them to listen I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:35   them to mix i use them for for everything because they are the absolute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:39   best in your monitors that you can get as a matter of fact ear monitors is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:45   registered trademark of his I want to pee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:48   we'll use it but it's his trademark so this guy knows his audio and I put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:54   when i put in the future sonics i can actually hear things and songs that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2574">TS</a>]

00:43:00   cannot hear on other headphones so it's really your coming out in other words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:07   you're coming at this from the perspective of somebody who knows it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   knows his shit and cares about good headphones i care about good headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:13   and if I didn't I wouldn't be using future sonics but i do so when people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:19   come to me and say you don't maybe you don't have a good pair of headphones if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:23   you did then you would know that this isn't good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:26   why send them a picture of the headphones that i do have from future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:29   sonics and they just write back and say oh so when I what are you doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:32   that they using the adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   yeah i can use the adapter it works fine i don't know what the major problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:40   with these people and I wrote him in my piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:44   ok here's your choice you can have a hundred-year-old headphone adapter or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:48   you can have an image stabilization a bigger battery and there was another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:53   thing which would you rather have I say ditch the headphone jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:58   because most people he got to remember that Apple's going for for the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:04   biggest common denominator here and for most people when they say oh they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:08   taking out the headphone jack oh my god i'm not going to be able to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:11   music oh no apples going to include a set of headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:14   oh okay well fine and apples going to include an adapter that will let you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:19   your old headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   oh ok that's fine if people don't care i wrote earlier when i read it's my one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:29   my favorite headlines of the year jack off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:32   I like my here's what I think Apple should both should and will do with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:40   know what I'm going to put what I'm going to put the box that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:43   question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:44   heading into this like let's just accept that the headphone jack is gone the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:48   rumors were so rampant from the supply chain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:51   what are you going to put in a box and I was hoping they would put wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:56   headphones in the box right but and I didn't think that they would put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2696">TS</a>]

00:45:01   the adapter but it was complicated because I said but I I i think it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:09   sense that if they're going to put wired lightning headphones in the box which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:14   what they're actually doing then it makes sense to put the adapter in too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:17   because they're saying by default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:21   what you get are wired headphones and you can use ours which plugin lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:25   or you can use whatever one you want will plug into this a little adapter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:30   we'll sell the adapters for the lowest price we can possibly get away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:33   selling it for nine bucks so you can buy a bunch of them in case you lose them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:36   in case you want to attach them to a couple of pairs i think that makes total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:39   sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:40   my argument that they wouldn't include the adapter was i think i have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:44   back and read the article is mostly if they include wireless earbuds in the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:48   then they shouldn't include the adapter because the adapter would be saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:51   should be using wireless wired headphones and I it's very clear very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:57   clear for me that the reason that I that they're not including wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:00   headphones is that the air pods are too expensive to make their there's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:04   they need to to be in the box they need to be like you know nine ten dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:08   cost of goods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   yeah and the airport's away waved to you know we can't let us hold that will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:14   back to their pods later in the show with let's try to stick to the event but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:18   we'll come to it but bottom line is they had to do it this way with the airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:22   because there's no way they could sell at that price I I agree and I said early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:26   on that if apple takes out the the headphone jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:31   they will include an adapter i was pretty sure that they would ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:34   because they wouldn't want everybody to be scared they're already gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:38   screaming enough even though they don't know what they're screaming about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:43   if they include an adapter that will just stop it what misled me was that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:49   can get like $30 some some sets of bluetooth headsets our only like 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:55   bucks you know like a you know just regular old bluetooth and that mislead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:59   me and thought maybe Apple could make their own that are like 30 bucks but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:02   knowing how air pods work now and that the they're both little computers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:07   literally I mean they're not really just headphones that w once it is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:11   computer chip there there little computers that are in your ear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:15   that is how they do the you know both ears are in sync without a wire between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:20   them which is a really really hard problem to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   that's why most bluetooth headphones have some kind of you know electrical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:25   cable between the left and right so that they can keep it in sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28   you know usually like one of them is the little bluetooth receiver and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:33   wire going under your chin or behind your neck to the other one and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:36   one is this literally just it's as dumb of a headphone is as any headphones you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:40   know it's but their little computers then there's no way you know they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:45   not little $30 thanks . we'll come back to that I thought sure did a great job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:51   I thought the courage thing I guess it could have been phrase better because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:55   proved so controversial but I you know I think he was absolutely right though in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2875">TS</a>]

00:48:00   from the reasons auo line it did work a lot of courage to do what they did at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:05   whether you agree or disagree with him I I really here's the main thing i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2885">TS</a>]

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00:48:13   that he's honest he's that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   whether you think it's right or wrong that with phil schiller believes he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:18   not he's not telling you something that's other than what is actually what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:22   he thinks and how can you go wrong with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:25   no then yeah I I just think it was a good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:29   alright let's take a break unless you have anything else for the actual what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:32   happened onstage know I've had my see ya I'm lives and that's maybe talk hands-on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/2912">TS</a>]

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00:52:19   i was among the first in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   yeah i was really late captain a pensare know and i were there was a big long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3141">TS</a>]

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00:52:38   row with the bill graham civic auditorium is build a building in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:41   building yeah and they this time they actually built a hallway I link to it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:47   my thoughts on the show and I put a photo I took of it like a very Kubrick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3167">TS</a>]

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00:52:57   for people like me who weren't in it you know hands-on area was way too small to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:01   let anybody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:02   so there's a long wait while you had you know as people left they left more in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:07   they built a hallway so you have a nice Apple like experience while we writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3187">TS</a>]

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00:53:49   for a couple hours so that we could walk through and and look at the products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:53   and there's a lot of Apple employees there you know that are there to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3233">TS</a>]

00:54:00   and talk to you about things and it's great it's a lie i love having a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:07   hands-on area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:08   I don't understand the people who go in and out there's some of the people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3248">TS</a>]

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00:54:19   in the same racket is us who if they get in early a quick look at everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:23   maybe the snap a few photos but there it's like they're like thing they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:27   like they have somewhere to go and they they're like out i don't get it i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:32   i'm not necessarily the last guy left in there although i have been this in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:35   events i remember with the original the original iPad the first ipad dan morgan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:40   and i got our hands remember there was a dock with a keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:43   yeah it's it's like they kind of with the the smart Keyboard have circled back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:48   to the original that original idea that maybe there should be a keyboard with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3288">TS</a>]

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00:54:55   figuring out which keyboard shortcuts were my leg somebody came up when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3295">TS</a>]

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00:55:02   around if nobody else except babble boys and hands-on area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3302">TS</a>]

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00:55:15   it's not like the people who man the Apple people who man the hands on tables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3315">TS</a>]

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00:55:31   people who are good people people right now who are good at answering questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:35   and and being personable but they come from all over the company and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3335">TS</a>]

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00:56:19   there's actually some room in there you know you can walk around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3379">TS</a>]

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00:56:29   stand there and use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   the one I think is funny as running Richie I mean he'll stay to the bitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3391">TS</a>]

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00:57:17   especially the videos but the photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3437">TS</a>]

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00:57:28   their photos to be like you know high you know really really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3448">TS</a>]

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00:58:08   event this kind of sucks because our projector here isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3488">TS</a>]

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00:58:16   of the photos you can take and what you'll see on screen on this iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:20   because you know you can't show high color gamut with a non I color gamut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:24   projector so they wanted to show that to people you know they're prepared with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:28   couple of things like that and then you know you say thank you you know you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:31   say thanks and then you know step aside so that the next person can Ino can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3511">TS</a>]

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00:58:40   of the white cloth when the photo people get there it's like they want the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3520">TS</a>]

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00:59:12   worse because the video people want to it's a two-man two-person team or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:17   there's a camera person and then the the talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:21   yeah quote-unquote and the the video the videographers want to get as far away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:26   you know they want to get couple feet behind but they you're at the table how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3566">TS</a>]

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00:59:35   not just that you get bumped into its that they will push you out of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:38   yeah doesn't that happen and you and I especially you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3578">TS</a>]

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00:59:55   I let's face it but I am 62 in 200 pounds yeah i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3595">TS</a>]

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01:00:05   them that are jostling and and trying to push you out of the way and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:11   that that there was one guy there this time from from pcmag he was doing a live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:17   maybe a periscope or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:20   he was screaming he was screaming and I was standing there at the table trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:26   to get a product uh a dental from that from the person but this guy was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:32   beside us yelling into his phone and so I started saying I'm you know when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:40   standing there because the guy couldn't give me the demo he was yelling so loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:44   I i started saying like since I was right next one is this guy screaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:49   into his phone so let me screaming of your phone so why is this guy doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:53   why you screaming and so I just kept talking over him and finally he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:57   stopped him one away and then I could have my product demo but yeah it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:01   me this is nothing that Apple is doing this is that how things have changed air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3661">TS</a>]

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01:01:14   while because for years they only let you shoot video in designated areas in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:20   the hands-on areas are like if you remember like when their hands on areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:26   in moscone like when they would do the debt when they would do the iphones at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:30   WWDC and then there was that was when they had a huge area cuz moscone is huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:36   right off to the side and not what's the hallway of moscone is where they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:40   have the hands-on areas and it was really i mean like expansive it it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:44   you know like in a ballroom more than you know a at cramped area but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:51   would make the video people go off to the side they weren't allowed to shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:54   video near the tables right there be like black curtains and that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:58   some lighting over to the side where they could they could shoot their video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:01   stuff but i think that the that it's too many people you know they if they tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:06   to enforce that now they it they would just spend all of their time telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:10   people you've got to shoot you know they would never stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/3730">TS</a>]

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01:14:27   I can see her so no personnel in time wise and it wasn't just like oh poor us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4467">TS</a>]

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01:14:35   to blow smoke up their asses the people who put on these events for Apple work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:38   their asses off and they're not afraid of hard work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:40   it's just that do what I heard from a couple people was that they always felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:43   that with the September in September and in mid-october events that both events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:47   suffered especially the october event that because it just didn't it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:51   have they didn't have enough time to do it right and that was better to put all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:54   their eggs in one basket and do one then to do too and secondarily to adding onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4494">TS</a>]

01:15:01   that when when the March event was in town hall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:04   the one where that the 9.7 inch iPad pro is introduced Tim Cook said this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:08   probably the last time we you know can have an event here we've had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:10   great history here but moving to a new campus next year bump right so no Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:18   hardware news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:19   no events showcase features in Sierra and yet there are well a every step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:26   single product in the mac lineup other than the macbook 1-port jobbie is old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:32   and outdated over a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:34   I'm not being hyperbolic I mean like macbook pros are over a year old have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:37   the mac pro literally just passed its thousand day since it was updated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:43   there is an excellent new version of mac OS that is ready to you know coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:48   soon do you think that it's going to be in October event where they they do mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:51   stuff you know here's here's the thing for me with with the mac I i think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4551">TS</a>]

01:16:04   simple question is do I think that they have max that they will release sometime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:11   before the the holiday shopping season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:16   yes I had great i think my answer to that is it definitely yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:21   will they have an event for those max I think it's a more difficult question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:25   because like you said I the reasoning for these one event things is very sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:32   it's it's a sound reasoning to to cut that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:37   so if they have an event for what we would have to think at this point would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:44   be max because don't forget the ipads are updated at the last event to that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:50   a talk about it but they were so this is basically going to be a mac event so are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:58   those macs that they have so good that they'll want to roll the mountain event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:04   as opposed to rolling the moment press release or do like you know briefings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:09   with with a number of of of their key people and roll them out like that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:15   mean there are there are few things that they could do if the macs are big enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:20   and they're there that confident in them then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:25   yeah there'll be an event if not then I think one of the other two options is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:29   the best i think it'll either be an event or it will be debriefing and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:35   you know and they did the briefings and they did this like the one of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:38   ones i remember was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:39   it was a version of Mac os10 that might have been 10.7 at somewhere around there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:47   but it was they remember that I say it was around March and they had like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:52   mysterious there I can you know for me it was New York your you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:56   know where you went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:57   maybe you're still going to New York at the time but it was you know I come we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4677">TS</a>]

01:18:00   only have something to show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:01   right can you make can you make it up tuesday at you know noon or one o'clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:05   in the afternoon and I was like well what's it about it really well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:08   we want to keep it under wraps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:10   I had no idea what it was and it was the time i wrote about it was I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:14   briefing with the phil schiller and brian.krall from product marketing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:18   they showed the next version of mac OS 10 girls 10 7 but it doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:20   matter but it was off schedule and it was at a time when a Mac was generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:24   only getting updated every 18 months or so like a Mack wasn't mac OS wasn't on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:29   yearly schedule it was at coming off that time whether a couple of years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:33   where they even said hey you know Mac OS is getting updated slower because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:37   pulling key people to keep iOS you know the top priority the companies offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:41   otherwise we're annual releases of iOS and the mac and we name it they admitted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:46   it they even had a PR the one time where they're like you know we were gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:49   a mac OS come out at WTC but it's going to come out later in the year instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:53   because we you know where engineering constraint and these product briefings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:57   were sort of a hey we're back we're back at full steam ahead and we're doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4737">TS</a>]

01:19:02   mac every year too and we've got you know here's what's coming we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:05   try to release this later this year and you know and they've done that a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:09   of other times too but i have the mac one really stuck out to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4749">TS</a>]

01:19:12   yeah and I don't mind that I don't know about you but I don't like that well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:17   it's not as exclusive as it sounds either because they would generally when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:21   they do this well i'm back maybe I think every time I know that they've done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:23   they've they do something in California in cupertino and then they have another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:27   team fly out to New York yes and usually get like a suite of hotel rooms and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:32   you know they could have two or three four maybe even four teams at a time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:36   parallel doing it you know half an hour at a time so they can fit you know each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:44   team can fit I don't know 10 15 briefings in a day you know x three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:49   four teams you know and you can easily you know get these brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:53   things out to you know fifty to a hundred people yeah and I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:57   know if they were that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4797">TS</a>]

01:19:58   yeah I don't know I don't know the may not be like there's always so secretive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:02   yeah you only really know all you ever really knows who came before you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:07   you see them on the way i think is coming in after that's exactly right or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:11   I like I think we did one time we bumped into each other walking down the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:15   huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:16   what are you down here so I don't know I I don't know what which way to bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:22   though I'm kind of betting on briefings but I I don't want to make a bet I I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:31   know if you wanted to put money on and I wouldn't want to put up more than five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:34   dollars if you said you thought it was going to be an event no more than five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:39   dollars because the other thing too is I wonder whether for them it is less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:43   effort to do one event in town all then to send two teams you know want to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:50   know to send a team to New York and have another team in cupertino I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:53   you know what town hall are are some of my favorite brief are safe favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:58   events i'm kind of rooting that's the one thing too is I'm rooting for Town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4858">TS</a>]

01:21:02   Hall because i would like to go one more than I i I'd right i love townhome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:06   I really do I just in this time this time we know it's the last yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:11   correct yeah because there are no more products coming well I guess if we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:14   know if it would be a hundred percent certain because there's a chance that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:17   you know construction would be significantly delayed and a march event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:20   that they might want to have next year couldn't be held on the new campus but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:23   kind of get the feeling like if they have a march event is gonna be at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:27   new campus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:28   yeah and I i know you can just tell by looking at it there is no chance in hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:33   that an event next month is going to be at the Nou Camp no no no you can't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:37   they wouldn't do that but I'm i won the important thing I think is the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:45   first question is there are there max available going to be available new max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:50   before the end of the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:52   yes I think yes so i think but i think macbook I think macbook pro for sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:57   yes and and I think part of the reason that Tim Cook said I think this is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4917">TS</a>]

01:22:00   know in March that this is probably the last time we meet here is I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:03   think that Apple at that time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:05   the macbook pros would would be out by WTC but maybe I'm wrong because maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:09   there's a design aspect of this new mac that is like tied into air pods or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:13   something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:14   well I see that's the whole thing and are these macs big enough that they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:21   hold an event and that's what we don't know because you know there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:28   rumors and stuff but you never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30   I mean are they going to update the mac pro i think i think they I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:34   either have to update it or kill it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:36   the mac pro yeah oh yeah i mean a thousand day old computer is again I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:42   I I know it's not their bread and butter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:45   I know that it's actually the opposite you know financially speaking the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:49   is ever you know sixty percent of the company's revenue yeah that pro is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:52   immeasurably slim thing but if you're going to have up you know a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:57   computing platform for professionals like the mac there needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4977">TS</a>]

01:23:00   professional hardware well-run and does not bring into something else with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4980">TS</a>]

01:23:03   something like the mac pro or even the mac mini you need to screen i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:07   i don't want to government go buy a screen from HP or girls I want an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:12   screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:12   well and I want to screen it doesn't make any sense I'm not gonna buy back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:15   program and I up i'm almost certainly going to run imax until they stop making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:18   imax because i don't need the performance i really don't and i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:21   that just having one less than to hook up to another thing but it doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:26   any sense to me that if you buy a twelve thousand dollar mac pro that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:29   hook it up to a display as nice as you get on a three-thousand-dollar imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:33   right right and I don't know what the entry-level you know the entry-level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:36   imac is but it's you know it it doesn't make any sense that you can get a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:40   display with professional high color gamut right and all that yet and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:46   that's a very good point don't forget these are wide color gamut displays so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:50   you're you're actually getting something that's better than what most people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:55   died yet you can't get it with the mac pro but maybe maybe they're thought is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:59   that people that use the mac pro don't actually use displays and they'll use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:03   them like this they do because they're photographers and videographers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:06   right at you if you're doing professional video editing of course you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:09   wanted a Mac Pro and of course you want the height you know the high color gamut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:13   display if your professional photographer of course you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:16   that's yeah I i was it for audio I mean I use an imac and i love this imac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:23   if I had the choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:24   yeah I'd get a mac pro and a big display and I do my stuff I love making fun of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:32   people who put the word finally in their headlines about access and completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:37   inappropriate ways but this is a candle one of the reasons why is that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:40   overuse a word the word ceases Ted have meaning right this is a case where if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:47   let's just say if in october $YEAR they released a new mac pro with modern Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:54   hardware and you know i think the place where its most dated by far isn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:59   the cpu even though the cpu is three years old but the graphics like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:03   graphics capabilities of the mac pro it the graphics chips have made you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:08   tremendous increases in the last three years and you and a 5k cinema display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:15   that has or whatever they're going to call it display that you know has a wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:19   color gamut and beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:21   that's the case where the word finally is exactly exactly right yeah you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:26   argue with that you really come i hope so and I i have absolutely zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:31   scuttlebutt nothing i've heard from any little birdies told me that any of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:34   stuff is coming well Mac Pro's macbook pros we know we've heard are coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5134">TS</a>]

01:25:38   Germans had reports on them and you know a lot of people have heard stuff about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:42   macros I haven't heard anything about the mac pro those only neither it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:45   almost terrifying to me to me that I haven't well as it makes me worried that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:50   my expectation that it's coming is simply based on my hopes and hopes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5150">TS</a>]

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01:39:12   empty ad spots would make little house ads for the paper itself and i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5952">TS</a>]

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01:39:20   footnotes you know I loved it so I resisted bumping the text size up as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5960">TS</a>]

01:39:28   long as I could because i like it but then once I gave him but i'll tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5968">TS</a>]

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01:39:34   to the show but I've been thinking about this a lot lately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5974">TS</a>]

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01:39:43   not wearing my contacts and using regular glasses because then I can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5983">TS</a>]

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01:39:49   print the the the texturizing feature in in iOS where you go to display and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:57   brightness text size and you can get to the same setting through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/5997">TS</a>]

01:40:00   accessibility to and and it says absolute to support dynamic type will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6000">TS</a>]

01:40:05   adjust your preferred reading size below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:07   it's not just that it makes text size bigger a lot of places but especially I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6007">TS</a>]

01:40:12   think starting in iOS 9 and in iOS 10 it's even better it's not just that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6012">TS</a>]

01:40:16   text is bigger but the way it flows makes it look like it's exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6016">TS</a>]

01:40:21   but yeah it when they first introduced this feature a couple years ago and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6021">TS</a>]

01:40:24   played with it I was like this is a great accessibility feature and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6024">TS</a>]

01:40:28   who have vision problems will really appreciate I have a friend who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:31   really terrible eyes I mean maybe like it its it's like he's on the spectrum of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6031">TS</a>]

01:40:35   being blind not blind like you can't see but like he really blows it up like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6035">TS</a>]

01:40:40   goes to the inaccessibility where there's like it's beyond that the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:43   setting you know there's like a special like hey do you want to expose super-big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6043">TS</a>]

01:40:47   like almost ludicrously large type he blows it up to there and he said it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6047">TS</a>]

01:40:52   like a little game changer for him because even though it's ridiculously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6052">TS</a>]

01:40:55   big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6055">TS</a>]

01:40:56   he has absolutely no trouble reading text messages anymore changed his life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6056">TS</a>]

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01:41:26   running at the stock default size because he's 12 years old and his eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6086">TS</a>]

01:41:29   are perfect i look at his now and it almost looks to me a statically just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6089">TS</a>]

01:41:34   judging is whether it's pleasing not whether i can read it but whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6094">TS</a>]

01:41:37   pleasing or not it actually looks too small so i really i just want to say if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6097">TS</a>]

01:41:42   anybody who works on these accessibility features at apple and and the dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6102">TS</a>]

01:41:46   sizing stuff that accommodates them the fact that i can only imagine how hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6106">TS</a>]

01:41:50   that is to design something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6110">TS</a>]

01:41:51   that looks good at widely varying text sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6111">TS</a>]

01:41:55   I've designed many things in my life and it's it's really hard to do that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6115">TS</a>]

01:41:58   really appreciate it and I'll tell you what it's like what you just said about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6118">TS</a>]

01:42:01   running and zoomed on when you run into an app that doesn't use dynamic type i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6121">TS</a>]

01:42:04   wanted i want to smash my iphone uber i'm looking at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6124">TS</a>]

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01:42:19   talking about earlier with you know their attention to detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:24   yeah that that other companies just don't do the fact that they've clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:29   have a team that spent so much time system wide across so many apps have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6149">TS</a>]

01:42:33   noticed one bug where mail sometimes goes back to mail on iOS goes back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6153">TS</a>]

01:42:38   smaller type and I I wonder and it confuses me because sometimes you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6158">TS</a>]

01:42:41   email that's just styled text you know the person sending plaintext and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6161">TS</a>]

01:42:45   thought they just picked a small font is picking it up but then I realized like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6165">TS</a>]

01:42:48   2-3 message in a row or too small and I force quit mail and relaunch it and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6168">TS</a>]

01:42:52   of a sudden the same message has the text that i prefer so if I've noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6172">TS</a>]

01:42:55   that mail there must be just a bug where it somehow loses track of the dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6175">TS</a>]

01:42:59   size but system-wide messages male safari reader view they pick up this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6179">TS</a>]

01:43:05   thing and it just looks great and I can read it and it's great well I don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6185">TS</a>]

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01:43:11   both and spending the last year on the regular success sighs I had my eyes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6191">TS</a>]

01:43:16   not at the point where I need the bigger phone just for reading but I certainly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6196">TS</a>]

01:43:20   I'm at the point now where when you say say that you do I know exactly what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6200">TS</a>]

01:43:24   mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6204">TS</a>]

01:43:24   yeah and if anybody out there is listening who doesn't count your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6204">TS</a>]

01:43:27   blessings whether if you're young you know appreciate what you have it I i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6207">TS</a>]

01:43:32   think one thing about my vision and as it's getting worse as i get older i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6212">TS</a>]

01:43:36   feel that I didn't waste my youth with perfect vision I feel like I i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6216">TS</a>]

01:43:41   appreciate it while I had it so did I oh my god i was it i told justin next horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6221">TS</a>]

01:43:46   edge in that thing and he's making these numbers spreadsheets live like based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6226">TS</a>]

01:43:52   the numbers that like Tim Cook and jeff williams are giving he's posting these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6232">TS</a>]

01:43:56   it's so amazing in in numbers and no be honest to god you it would i would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6236">TS</a>]

01:44:01   like to have like a video feed of him just working in numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6241">TS</a>]

01:44:03   having her but he is numbers spreadsheet it's it's like this expansive canvas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6243">TS</a>]

01:44:09   that he pans across and he's got all these charts it's not like a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6249">TS</a>]

01:44:12   different sheets it's like one big sheet with a whole bunch of sections and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6252">TS</a>]

01:44:16   everything is it like 6 . type of looking college so I could basically sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6256">TS</a>]

01:44:24   beside him as a spy and never get anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6264">TS</a>]

01:44:27   now it does me it looked just like a bunch of dots like the way that sometime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6267">TS</a>]

01:44:32   did you get I think everybody might have gotten seated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6272">TS</a>]

01:44:36   everybody got review units from what i could sell got the exact same two phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6276">TS</a>]

01:44:40   jet black iphone 7 regular black iphone 7 plus yes I think everybody got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6280">TS</a>]

01:44:46   same ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6286">TS</a>]

01:44:47   yep to my knowledge nobody had other than in the hands-on areas seeing a jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6287">TS</a>]

01:44:51   black iphone 7 plus i actually like the matte black better I can totally see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:58   i'm also a to this point I'm still torn on both quadrants III don't know which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6298">TS</a>]

01:45:04   finished again I don't know which size to get you know really i honest to god I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6304">TS</a>]

01:45:08   don't have an ordered you you brought up a good point about about the blemishes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6308">TS</a>]

01:45:15   that could happen to the jet black one it is a gloss finish of course you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6315">TS</a>]

01:45:21   when when showing a picture on stage I fell in love with the jet-black when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6321">TS</a>]

01:45:26   they were showing in the keynote because it's just so shiny and gorgeous i felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6326">TS</a>]

01:45:31   like a crow you know who's on the journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6331">TS</a>]

01:45:33   huh I want that but when i get back into the to the hands-on area and I saw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6333">TS</a>]

01:45:38   the matte finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6338">TS</a>]

01:45:40   I is out I i love that its title it's so subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6340">TS</a>]

01:45:45   I don't think that their initial batch of product photography does it just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6345">TS</a>]

01:45:50   does i think i think that they're talking about the flat black yet black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6350">TS</a>]

01:45:54   regular black whatever you want to call in their product photography especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6354">TS</a>]

01:45:58   what they showed us on stage and I don't know if this was made worse by the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6358">TS</a>]

01:46:02   that it was a projection but it looked like very dark grey not that it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6362">TS</a>]

01:46:08   look good but that when you see it in person it is clearly black yes it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6368">TS</a>]

01:46:12   block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6372">TS</a>]

01:46:13   I had the feeling when we watch the event I I still thought they both looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6373">TS</a>]

01:46:18   good but I thought I thought like that's a stretch calling that black and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6378">TS</a>]

01:46:22   the one of the reasons i thought that it stretches i know that black is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:27   hard color to anodize on aluminum and that's why they abandoned what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6387">TS</a>]

01:46:32   called slate with the five to go to the much lighter it's actually more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6392">TS</a>]

01:46:37   dark silver what they call spacecraft right but when you see in person it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6397">TS</a>]

01:46:42   absolutely positively legit black and and it's stunning i thought so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6402">TS</a>]

01:46:48   worried about the little blemishes that may come up in and a phone i wouldn't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6408">TS</a>]

01:46:55   don't use a case i have keys in my pocket I i have a lighter in my pocket i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6415">TS</a>]

01:47:00   would put the phone in there and it would get scratched all the craft but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6420">TS</a>]

01:47:03   don't care about that and you know I I play guitar i have some expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6423">TS</a>]

01:47:08   guitars i play them and my belt buckle scrapes on them and I don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6428">TS</a>]

01:47:13   that either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6433">TS</a>]

01:47:14   you know I just I want to use it and I want to use the best one and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6434">TS</a>]

01:47:19   isn't a consideration for me that will be consideration for a lot of people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6439">TS</a>]

01:47:23   think the fact that my message will show up so so easily on that file and apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6443">TS</a>]

01:47:30   does warn you about that i mean they're they're very clear about it so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6450">TS</a>]

01:47:34   going to happen but I just overall the look of the of the black over the jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6454">TS</a>]

01:47:41   black i'm sitting here looking at it now and I'm just you know I'm just admiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:45   in here's an interesting thing i didn't mention in my review but I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6465">TS</a>]

01:47:50   was really interesting is under the on the regular black the apple logo i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6470">TS</a>]

01:47:56   it's actually just like previously it's it's a stainless steel insert i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6476">TS</a>]

01:48:00   but it is it's super high-gloss you know the apple logo ups and the apple logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6480">TS</a>]

01:48:04   pops off the back on the jet black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6484">TS</a>]

01:48:08   it's actually you actually have to put it in the right light to even see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6488">TS</a>]

01:48:12   apple logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6492">TS</a>]

01:48:14   it is it is the first iphone ever where I think that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6494">TS</a>]

01:48:18   like in most i'm sitting here playing with it now it's sort of getting towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6498">TS</a>]

01:48:22   dusk is here but it most angles i can't even see the apple logo on the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6502">TS</a>]

01:48:27   because the apple logo is shiny to it is also it is different it's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6507">TS</a>]

01:48:32   there is an apple logo and you can feel it so i think it's also a stainless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6512">TS</a>]

01:48:35   steel insert like I can rub my fifth finger over and I feel the edges of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6515">TS</a>]

01:48:39   apple logo but in most lighting angles if it's not if you're not catching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6519">TS</a>]

01:48:43   light to get a reflection you don't see the apple logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6523">TS</a>]

01:48:45   I didn't even notice that I'm gonna have to go look I don't know that that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6525">TS</a>]

01:48:49   reason for anybody to buy it or not buy it you know but it's just an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6529">TS</a>]

01:48:53   thing to me that you know I don't know because I don't think they've ever made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6533">TS</a>]

01:48:57   an iphone before where the iphone for the apple doesn't pop on the map yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6537">TS</a>]

01:49:00   think you're right what do you think about the feel this is the by far and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6540">TS</a>]

01:49:06   away the number one question I got last week is is the jet-black slippery and me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6546">TS</a>]

01:49:10   too and I was actually surprised with how tactile was it looks like a wet bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6550">TS</a>]

01:49:18   so yes it does doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6558">TS</a>]

01:49:20   you know and you posted on Twitter about how it kind of stuck to your skin or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6560">TS</a>]

01:49:27   posted on things like that and i thought you know what it that's exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:32   and it it looks like you're going to pick it up in its going to just pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6572">TS</a>]

01:49:36   right out of your hand and you know smash but it it sticks to your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6576">TS</a>]

01:49:42   I'm I don't know I wonder i'm really curious i can't wait this isn't like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6582">TS</a>]

01:49:46   of the things i can't wait until tomorrow when thousands of people start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6586">TS</a>]

01:49:50   getting them to see if everybody agrees with that or if it has something to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6590">TS</a>]

01:49:53   with my skin mice my hands and only guy you've shaken my hand before I don't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:58   I wouldn't say that I have sweaty hands but my hands naturally have our nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6598">TS</a>]

01:50:03   moist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6603">TS</a>]

01:50:04   you know like they feel like I use nice moisturizer and wanted to give you my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6604">TS</a>]

01:50:07   visa number here or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6607">TS</a>]

01:50:10   but I'm just saying maybe i just i'm just curious if people who have let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6610">TS</a>]

01:50:14   say dry hands which I don't have I don't suffer from dry and I wonder if people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6614">TS</a>]

01:50:19   have dry hands will find its slippery right because they don't i have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6619">TS</a>]

01:50:22   most people seem to agree with me that is it is a grippy phone it's a gritty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6622">TS</a>]

01:50:26   texture but uh uh marques Brownlee MK be HD it's he called it slippery in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6626">TS</a>]

01:50:37   hands on area video and then he called it slippery in his unboxing when he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6637">TS</a>]

01:50:41   a review unit on on Wednesday really so I don't know maybe he has dry hands I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6641">TS</a>]

01:50:47   it is I've stand behind the fact that it's the grittiest phone I've ever felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6647">TS</a>]

01:50:52   yeah our iphone I've ever felt a week later but well they're like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6652">TS</a>]

01:50:57   wonder whether there's any variance between dryness of hands and and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6657">TS</a>]

01:51:01   that reaction samsung galaxy note 7 is actually more grippier than this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6661">TS</a>]

01:51:06   that's because it blows up so it's hard to hold hey did you see the date they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6666">TS</a>]

01:51:13   actually just initiated the formal required i did I can't believe I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6673">TS</a>]

01:51:17   don't want to I don't like i have tried to make as little hey over this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6677">TS</a>]

01:51:21   possible i need to our wall because i don't understand i don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6681">TS</a>]

01:51:24   widespread it is and I wonder I mean say what you want about samsung as like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6684">TS</a>]

01:51:29   copycat company and I'd I really don't like them in that regard I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6689">TS</a>]

01:51:33   feel that they're sort of you know well like your feelings on 4l that's how i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6693">TS</a>]

01:51:38   feel about about samsung I don't like when they and when they are original i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6698">TS</a>]

01:51:42   tend to find it distasteful i don't really like I just I i I'm not a fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6702">TS</a>]

01:51:48   the company i don't know that means a shock to people but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6708">TS</a>]

01:51:52   engineering-wise they're you know they're very very competent you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6712">TS</a>]

01:51:56   they I mean in fact they make they make chips they're used you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6716">TS</a>]

01:51:59   iphone yeah there you know you can't knock him on on engineering quality so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6719">TS</a>]

01:52:04   there's a stash back to this that says there but for the grace of God goes any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6724">TS</a>]

01:52:09   company including Apple you know that this sort i don't know I i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6729">TS</a>]

01:52:13   maybe we'll find out in the long run that there was some slip shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6733">TS</a>]

01:52:17   engineering in there maybe it likes their warnings that were ignored you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6737">TS</a>]

01:52:22   know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6742">TS</a>]

01:52:23   that could be the case it could be the case that know this wouldn't happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6743">TS</a>]

01:52:26   apple because at apple or you know just insert another company here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6746">TS</a>]

01:52:31   lenovo or whoever you want to say was a good reputation where if engineer said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6751">TS</a>]

01:52:35   hey this battery you know with this many milliamps you know whatever the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6755">TS</a>]

01:52:39   is with this battery this is going to be a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6759">TS</a>]

01:52:42   this is beyond this is outside specs maybe or maybe maybe this was out who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6762">TS</a>]

01:52:46   knows what the explanation is so I don't want to make a over it but that said boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6766">TS</a>]

01:52:49   this is a fiasco yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6769">TS</a>]

01:52:51   now how do things work in the US when when the the safety regulators issue a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6771">TS</a>]

01:52:57   recall do they follow that up with an investigation so we'll samsung be asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6777">TS</a>]

01:53:01   to hand over papers to tighten the person I don't know answer I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6781">TS</a>]

01:53:05   absolutely a hundred percent inevitable that they're going to suffer a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6785">TS</a>]

01:53:09   class-action lawsuit is all going to come out there now whether the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6789">TS</a>]

01:53:12   government will initiate on their own I'd I honestly don't know I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6792">TS</a>]

01:53:15   think that they might I think the US Consumer Product Safety Commission will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6795">TS</a>]

01:53:19   probably investigated on her own but it's going to get investigated by by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6799">TS</a>]

01:53:22   class-action lawsuit did you see the thing you use the other thing to this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6802">TS</a>]

01:53:25   and again it is samsung is the fact that they're having this problem in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6805">TS</a>]

01:53:31   place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6811">TS</a>]

01:53:32   I mean you know remember 20 years ago there was a powerbook that had a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6812">TS</a>]

01:53:36   with batteries somebody's battery on one of those like the powerbook 5300 I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6816">TS</a>]

01:53:40   that had a you know but there were only like one or two cases of it happening it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6820">TS</a>]

01:53:44   was certainly far less frequently with this but on the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6824">TS</a>]

01:53:47   apple sold far fewer powerbook 5300 than Samsung's Galaxy Note sevens but again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6827">TS</a>]

01:53:53   happened apple ones with the powerbook the engineering and design problems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6833">TS</a>]

01:53:59   led to this let's leave those aside because we can't pass judgment on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6839">TS</a>]

01:54:02   right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6842">TS</a>]

01:54:02   public relations wise i think Samsung is absolutely botching this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6842">TS</a>]

01:54:06   no I think what they should do is is just say okay all of them right now send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6846">TS</a>]

01:54:12   them back every single one whether it's in the retail stores already been sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6852">TS</a>]

01:54:17   unsold if it's in a warehouse if it's in a verizon store send them all back to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6857">TS</a>]

01:54:21   every single one of them and we will make things right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6861">TS</a>]

01:54:25   somehow I don't know what making it right is I don't know if it's giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6865">TS</a>]

01:54:27   everybody their money back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6867">TS</a>]

01:54:28   I don't know if it's giving them a different phone if it's asking them hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6868">TS</a>]

01:54:32   you can either take your money back now or wait and we'll get you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6872">TS</a>]

01:54:36   fixed galaxy note 7 in six weeks whatever it is but that's what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6876">TS</a>]

01:54:39   should do what they're doing now is ridiculous did you see the thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6879">TS</a>]

01:54:42   they were gonna they're gonna put them in a mode where it only charges the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6882">TS</a>]

01:54:45   sixty percent oh my gosh I'm and I think that's off the table now that the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6885">TS</a>]

01:54:50   Consumer Product you know now there's official recall but they yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6890">TS</a>]

01:54:53   samsung announced that they were going to they were going to force a firmware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6893">TS</a>]

01:54:56   update over-the-air that only allowed them to charge to sixty percent Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6896">TS</a>]

01:55:00   which is wrong on a couple of levels right because even if you're like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6900">TS</a>]

01:55:07   as a galaxy note 7 owner are perfectly fine keeping the phone but now your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6907">TS</a>]

01:55:11   phone has sixty percent battery life man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6911">TS</a>]

01:55:15   anyway we got apple stuff to talk about but i thought this note 7 thing is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6915">TS</a>]

01:55:19   identify you just have to cut losses right you have to tell ya that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6919">TS</a>]

01:55:23   right thing to do you remember the tylenol recall remember yes he's when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6923">TS</a>]

01:55:27   told me that job it some nutjob I put what he put in their cyanide or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6927">TS</a>]

01:55:33   something like that yeah it's some nut job working in a tylenol planned poison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6933">TS</a>]

01:55:38   a batch of tylenol with a cyanide and it got nipped in the bud but the way time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6938">TS</a>]

01:55:47   and all handled it is like it's like textbooks and public relations have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6947">TS</a>]

01:55:50   written about it because thailand on new and i think i'm getting the details on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6950">TS</a>]

01:55:54   this right but the gist of it is the tylenol knew the exact matches that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6954">TS</a>]

01:55:58   affected you know it's batches with these numbers and what they could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6958">TS</a>]

01:56:01   done is said we you know all of these batches if you're you know distributor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6961">TS</a>]

01:56:05   if you're a drugstore whatever these batches of tylenol whatever strength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6965">TS</a>]

01:56:10   send them back this is a bad batches that's not what they did what tylenol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6970">TS</a>]

01:56:15   did is they said get every single thing in every store warehouse anywhere that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6975">TS</a>]

01:56:20   has the word tylenol on it whether it's tylenol cough syrup or whatever send it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6980">TS</a>]

01:56:25   all back get it all we're gonna we're just going to destroy the entire stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6985">TS</a>]

01:56:29   of the tylenol as we know it and then we're going to give you new stuff so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6989">TS</a>]

01:56:32   that everybody can feel good about the tylenol that they're taking all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6992">TS</a>]

01:56:36   it's save their company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6996">TS</a>]

01:56:38   yes save the company right it's a huge if they took a huge a much bigger loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/6998">TS</a>]

01:56:42   financially in a moment to deal with it but save the reputation because of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7002">TS</a>]

01:56:47   it did is it actually did reinforce the reputation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7007">TS</a>]

01:56:49   I'll also brand you can trust right there's nothing you can do to stop one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7009">TS</a>]

01:56:52   lone nut job but then tylenol said you know we want you to have complete faith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7012">TS</a>]

01:56:56   in the brand i think Samsung is to actually do this whole 60-percent trick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7016">TS</a>]

01:57:00   is like the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7020">TS</a>]

01:57:02   well and I I said today you know when i when i posted about the the recall how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7022">TS</a>]

01:57:07   how are you going to trust them again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7027">TS</a>]

01:57:10   yeah i mean if i don't trust i really don't trust if the piece is the piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7030">TS</a>]

01:57:15   hardware that can catch fire I don't trust a software update you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7035">TS</a>]

01:57:19   piece of hardware as it is might catch fire but this you can trust this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7039">TS</a>]

01:57:23   software updates to their 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7043">TS</a>]

01:57:25   I don't know about that yeah all right back to the designers which one I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7045">TS</a>]

01:57:32   know i'm torn torn Jim I think I here's the thing that I really ought to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7052">TS</a>]

01:57:38   it's we've had a unbelievable hot stretch here in Philadelphia was 92 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7058">TS</a>]

01:57:42   yesterday i'm still waiting I'm still wearing shorts but i think it's cooling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7062">TS</a>]

01:57:46   off I gotta get some jeans on and try this plus size one with jeans because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7066">TS</a>]

01:57:51   wearing shorts as sort of a cheesy movie because it's a lot less opportunity the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7071">TS</a>]

01:57:54   least pleasant part of carrying that plus-sized iphone is getting it in added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7074">TS</a>]

01:57:58   jeans pockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7078">TS</a>]

01:57:59   yeah i think though if you had to ikea have to tell me i had a mic + in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7079">TS</a>]

01:58:08   front pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7088">TS</a>]

01:58:09   yeah that's what I do too but it's still it's not way harder to get out for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7089">TS</a>]

01:58:13   than the success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7093">TS</a>]

01:58:14   maybe I wear my jeans 210 maybe if you told me I had to order my phone that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7094">TS</a>]

01:58:19   going to use for the next 12 months right now on the air in the show i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7099">TS</a>]

01:58:23   i would get the 4.7 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7103">TS</a>]

01:58:26   in jet black but I'm not gonna order for another week or so and so i withhold the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7106">TS</a>]

01:58:33   right so because i do think I think I I feel much more certain that i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7113">TS</a>]

01:58:40   end up getting the smaller iPhone 7 and less certain about whether i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7120">TS</a>]

01:58:43   get jet black or the regular black but i think i'm going to get jet black and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7123">TS</a>]

01:58:49   think the reason why is nothing to do with the way it looks and everything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7129">TS</a>]

01:58:52   do with the grittiness and the confidence I have that i'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7132">TS</a>]

01:58:55   slip and fall with your you typically you're not on our phone so anyway yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7135">TS</a>]

01:59:00   yeah so and i typically go for the bigger one so you know I i could easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7140">TS</a>]

01:59:06   recommend either phone this time I feel like I having the bigger one is a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7146">TS</a>]

01:59:12   choice because i also get the camera too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7152">TS</a>]

01:59:15   yeah so I do i do feel bad about the camera this time I died the night I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7155">TS</a>]

01:59:21   told you before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7161">TS</a>]

01:59:22   Oh is optical image stabilization really is nice i do i've spent two years kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7162">TS</a>]

01:59:27   of wishing i had it and kind of feeling a little bad that I didn't have it if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7167">TS</a>]

01:59:31   do go ahead and get the plus or not the plus the 4.7 inch I'm gonna feel even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7171">TS</a>]

01:59:34   worse this year knowing that every time I take a shot where I feel like I'm i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7174">TS</a>]

01:59:38   I'm too far away and i wish that i was zoomed in a little more every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7178">TS</a>]

01:59:43   time I snapped a photo i'm going to thank god i wish i had that other Canyon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7183">TS</a>]

01:59:46   and you know anytime I see a picture that you've taken on Instagram or on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7186">TS</a>]

01:59:52   twitter i'm going to post and say why couldn't you zoom in on that all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7192">TS</a>]

01:59:55   right you didn't have the good phone right sorry but let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7195">TS</a>]

01:59:55   right you didn't have the good phone right sorry but let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7195">TS</a>]

02:00:00   I did I read your review seems like we're largely an agreement yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7200">TS</a>]

02:00:07   phenomenal year-over-year improvement I've been treating lately i tweeted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7207">TS</a>]

02:00:11   posted something on during fireball last night and I no benchmarks aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7211">TS</a>]

02:00:14   everything but the Geekbench if you just use geekbench as as your benchmark the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7214">TS</a>]

02:00:18   the iphone 7 and both iphone 7 benchmark almost exactly the same way that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7218">TS</a>]

02:00:24   difference is like the difference between 11 and another on the same phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7224">TS</a>]

02:00:28   so i'll just say iphone 7 but I mean both the iphone 7 on geekbench get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7228">TS</a>]

02:00:32   better scores than any macbook air ever made it gets better scores than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7232">TS</a>]

02:00:37   current one port macbook and it gets about the same performance as a 2013 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7237">TS</a>]

02:00:42   macbook pro it's only three years behind the macbook pro and performance and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7242">TS</a>]

02:00:47   know there's some people who say we can't really compare geekbench numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7247">TS</a>]

02:00:50   forearm vs intel there's differences blah blah blah blah but in broad terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7250">TS</a>]

02:00:55   it's unbelievable how fast apples a-series chips are catching up on intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7255">TS</a>]

02:01:00   you guys even if you say that the equipment what I'm calling equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7260">TS</a>]

02:01:04   numbers between these phones and a 20 13 macbook pro even if you say that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7264">TS</a>]

02:01:08   not quite apples to apples or it is more apples to oranges because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7268">TS</a>]

02:01:11   differences in the OS and differences in the architecture it is still the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7271">TS</a>]

02:01:16   though that two or three years ago the new iphones which had every single year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7276">TS</a>]

02:01:21   better cpus were not three years ahead of the macbook pro they were like far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7281">TS</a>]

02:01:27   behind they were like five or six years behind and if you go back further it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7287">TS</a>]

02:01:31   more like 10 years behind they're getting more efficient and and faster in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7291">TS</a>]

02:01:34   what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7294">TS</a>]

02:01:35   yep and you know if you look at the graph that they showed on stage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7295">TS</a>]

02:01:41   that's not stopping its accelerating yeah and in somebody tweeted well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7301">TS</a>]

02:01:46   know isn't funny how you care about benchmarks only when they come out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7306">TS</a>]

02:01:50   favor of the Apple product and that's but that's not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7310">TS</a>]

02:01:54   it it it's all admit i mean i've been using a mac non-stop since 1991 when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7314">TS</a>]

02:01:58   first got but that's the first time I own my own computer and I'd and between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7318">TS</a>]

02:02:02   1991 in 2007 when you could buy an intel-based mac most of those years the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7322">TS</a>]

02:02:07   mac had slower performance dollar for dollar compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7327">TS</a>]

02:02:12   uh the wintel pcs and if you were really into performance if you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7332">TS</a>]

02:02:16   something intensive and you wanted to spend the most money you could for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7336">TS</a>]

02:02:20   of those years that you know if you wanted the fastest computer you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7340">TS</a>]

02:02:23   buy it was going to be the Intel machine and i would say well i used a mac all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7343">TS</a>]

02:02:29   those years not be because I didn't care but because it didn't wasn't outweighed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7349">TS</a>]

02:02:35   by the other advantages of using a mac and its aim true today if the if it were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7355">TS</a>]

02:02:39   the tables returned and Samsung phones and whatever else use Qualcomm's chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7359">TS</a>]

02:02:44   got double the single chord geekbench numbers as the iphone i would still use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7364">TS</a>]

02:02:49   an iphone and I would admit it but it would it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7369">TS</a>]

02:02:52   hey weighing all the pros and cons this is a con but it doesn't isn't outweighed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7372">TS</a>]

02:02:57   by the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7377">TS</a>]

02:02:58   well you know for me and all of these reviews that I do whether it's the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7378">TS</a>]

02:03:02   which I love my Mac I really do but whether it's a mac and ipad and iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7382">TS</a>]

02:03:07   and watch I always review it and how i use it and how it fits into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7387">TS</a>]

02:03:14   lifestyle that i have setup is this something that I'm trying to shoehorn in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7394">TS</a>]

02:03:18   in which case now that's not gonna work for me but is it something that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7398">TS</a>]

02:03:23   kind of slides into what I normally do and yes this is a great product and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7403">TS</a>]

02:03:28   here's how i use it you may use it differently but here's how i use i never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7408">TS</a>]

02:03:33   mentioned you know all this is this is super fast at doing these types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7413">TS</a>]

02:03:40   calculations because that's not how i use it so i wouldn't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7420">TS</a>]

02:03:44   here's what I think it really pays off is it doesn't really pay off in like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7424">TS</a>]

02:03:48   I'm doing this super computationally expensive thing and it's faster on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7428">TS</a>]

02:03:52   iphone then it would be an android I think it's that the results were real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7432">TS</a>]

02:03:55   people benefit from Apple's serious edge and chip design is in energy efficiency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7435">TS</a>]

02:04:02   so it's not so much what the iphone can do at peak performance it's that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7442">TS</a>]

02:04:06   iphone doesn't have to break a sweat to get good enough performance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7446">TS</a>]

02:04:10   therefore can you get better battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7450">TS</a>]

02:04:13   yeah so what I've heard so there's this the the new quad core design of the a-10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7453">TS</a>]

02:04:19   fusion has two cores that run optimized for speed and two chords that run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7459">TS</a>]

02:04:24   optimized for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7464">TS</a>]

02:04:25   power and apple bills the power efficient ones as being one fifth the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7465">TS</a>]

02:04:28   energy of the other ones so if you're doing something computationally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7468">TS</a>]

02:04:31   expensive it's going to use the fast ones and then like Phil shoulders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7471">TS</a>]

02:04:34   examples you're just reading email then it's going to shift to those low-power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7474">TS</a>]

02:04:39   ones that are one-fifth the power I mean this is serious differently and energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7479">TS</a>]

02:04:43   consumption and when I heard the scuttlebutt I heard last week was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7483">TS</a>]

02:04:48   they are and you know i'm going to wait for like the non tech guys to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7488">TS</a>]

02:04:51   this out but the just that I don't cause I don't know how I would test it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7491">TS</a>]

02:04:54   just I heard is that they are effectively a eight performance so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7494">TS</a>]

02:04:58   they're the performance of the two year old iphone 6 but at one fifth the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7498">TS</a>]

02:05:04   of the current you know high-end course no and the a6 it the thing is if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7504">TS</a>]

02:05:10   look at those geekbench numbers that the iphone 6 is still at single core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7510">TS</a>]

02:05:14   performance it's on par with the top of the line android phones today so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7514">TS</a>]

02:05:19   you're running in low-power mode on the iphone you're still getting to perform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7519">TS</a>]

02:05:22   the single core performance of of the top-of-the-line samsung galaxy note it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7522">TS</a>]

02:05:28   pretty crazy now which is crazy to you do you plug your phone in during the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7528">TS</a>]

02:05:32   I IE do normally but with the with the plots i don't i don't know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7532">TS</a>]

02:05:40   absolutely a difference inhabit like might one day to day with the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7540">TS</a>]

02:05:44   success when I'm gonna have my desk i plug it in at least once and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7544">TS</a>]

02:05:48   easily then it easily get through the day with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7548">TS</a>]

02:05:51   if so we're recording at 7pm easter diamonds record my my iphone 7 plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7551">TS</a>]

02:05:58   which is my main phone right now the testing the review unit is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7558">TS</a>]

02:06:02   eighty-four percent battery yeah yeah I'm about the same and you know most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7562">TS</a>]

02:06:08   days I actually know there isn't a day when i plug in my plus i run all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7568">TS</a>]

02:06:19   till the end of the day when I go to bed I plugged in overnight get up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7579">TS</a>]

02:06:24   morning unplug it and go for the full day again so that's how i use that phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7584">TS</a>]

02:06:29   it you know you would get at you said you get asked that I get asked which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7589">TS</a>]

02:06:33   phone should i buy the first question is do you mind the big size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7593">TS</a>]

02:06:37   yeah and if the answer to that question is no then you're done go get it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7597">TS</a>]

02:06:41   if you don't mind the big size or you actually prefer it then there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7601">TS</a>]

02:06:45   question used to get it yeah I what about the your jet black you have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7605">TS</a>]

02:06:51   scratches on your jet black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7611">TS</a>]

02:06:53   um no nothing real big I mean hair those those microbrew yeah there's some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7613">TS</a>]

02:06:59   have called them euphemism but i think it's actually write a scratch to me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7619">TS</a>]

02:07:04   in my mind is something you can feel with your finger right or even even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7624">TS</a>]

02:07:08   even just your fingernail scratches that I see on the back of my jet black iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7628">TS</a>]

02:07:14   7 I cannot feel exam not feel we even with my fingernail i can now maybe if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7634">TS</a>]

02:07:20   used it longer it would pick up scratches like that but that's I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7640">TS</a>]

02:07:23   micro operation is a good word for I see it when i put it at the right light and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7643">TS</a>]

02:07:27   reflect light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7647">TS</a>]

02:07:28   yes and that's something that I i actually had to do in order to see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7648">TS</a>]

02:07:33   was to to you know kind of tilted and say oh yeah okay there's Thursday made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7653">TS</a>]

02:07:38   them maybe that was my keys or something that right right right now i have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7658">TS</a>]

02:07:42   order but my plan is I'm gonna get a regular iphone 7 in jet black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7662">TS</a>]

02:07:45   i'm going to use it for a year I'm not going to put in a case in fact the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7665">TS</a>]

02:07:50   reason I want to get it is because it'll it's the grittiness means the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7670">TS</a>]

02:07:53   reason i would even think about putting an iphone in the cases just that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7673">TS</a>]

02:07:56   lack of grittiness of these aluminum finishes so I'm definitely not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7676">TS</a>]

02:08:00   put in the case and I fully expect the year from now when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7680">TS</a>]

02:08:04   back it up for the last time to use the backup to put into an iphone 7s or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7684">TS</a>]

02:08:09   iphone 8 or whatever they're going to call next year's iphones that it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7689">TS</a>]

02:08:12   be all scratched up on the back and I don't care I don't care either and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7692">TS</a>]

02:08:16   that's it see as much as you say the first question is do you mind the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7696">TS</a>]

02:08:21   size i think the second question is do you mind being all scratched up after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7701">TS</a>]

02:08:25   year and yeah and you mind being able to see fingerprints during the day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7705">TS</a>]

02:08:28   stuff like them and if they do have I know it's a question people that they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7708">TS</a>]

02:08:32   have an oleophobic coating on the whole thing so it does like rub you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7712">TS</a>]

02:08:37   you rub it on your jeans or whatever to clear the fingerprints it's easy like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7717">TS</a>]

02:08:40   it that the screen clears up of fingerprints just as easily as the are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7720">TS</a>]

02:08:44   the back clears up a finger prints just as easily as the front yeah but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7724">TS</a>]

02:08:47   starts picking up again as soon as to flip it around yeah I don't care either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7727">TS</a>]

02:08:51   I it just doesn't bother me i care less about i do like to have a phone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7731">TS</a>]

02:08:55   looks cool and so both blacks look cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7735">TS</a>]

02:08:57   yeah but I care more about how it feels alright we're running short on time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7737">TS</a>]

02:09:03   what you want i would rather talk about more when you're out on their pods more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7743">TS</a>]

02:09:06   or Apple watch series 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7746">TS</a>]

02:09:09   well we did talk about their pods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7749">TS</a>]

02:09:12   yeah a little bit earlier i will say just a quick note on air pods people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7752">TS</a>]

02:09:18   have been going insane losing their minds that these things are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7758">TS</a>]

02:09:23   follow your ears when you're running they're gonna the the sound isn't good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7763">TS</a>]

02:09:30   they've never had them they've never touch them right and it's all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7770">TS</a>]

02:09:33   people that have never had the the air pods that are saying how bad they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7773">TS</a>]

02:09:39   well I have exercised in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7779">TS</a>]

02:09:43   I've lifted weights I've walked I tried I don't run often but I i ran a bit i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7783">TS</a>]

02:09:51   tilted my head sideways i did everything but do cartwheels with these things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7791">TS</a>]

02:09:56   my ear they have never fallen out now I've been running with them I i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7796">TS</a>]

02:10:01   again it might vary year by ear but and end it for me there's a fit so well that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7801">TS</a>]

02:10:06   I was confident I knew as soon as i put a man i was like i could go right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7806">TS</a>]

02:10:09   you no doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7809">TS</a>]

02:10:10   yeah I mean maybe you maybe you know Adam everybody listens to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7810">TS</a>]

02:10:14   surely somebody's got ears that are a different shape and it you get it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7814">TS</a>]

02:10:17   you're going to know when you put it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7817">TS</a>]

02:10:18   whether it's a good a good fit or not I i don't i just i I don't know why people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7818">TS</a>]

02:10:26   do that but yeah here's so here's the thing i think and and this is the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7826">TS</a>]

02:10:32   towel over time to me is how much of this is about Apple wanting seeing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7832">TS</a>]

02:10:38   air pods as the future of audio personal audio it and how much of it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7838">TS</a>]

02:10:44   money-grab how much of it is that they want to make money selling under $59 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7844">TS</a>]

02:10:48   headphones i believe i just you know it's not entirely uninformed but I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7848">TS</a>]

02:10:54   know who knows maybe the person i spoke to his full of shit but I believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7854">TS</a>]

02:10:59   they price them as low as they could and that if they could have sold them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7859">TS</a>]

02:11:02   129 would have something for 129 and if they could have sold them for 99 they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7862">TS</a>]

02:11:05   would have sold them for 99 and I think the fact that 159 is such an oddball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7865">TS</a>]

02:11:10   price is it's that is the direct result of the comment saying they're selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7870">TS</a>]

02:11:15   them at cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7875">TS</a>]

02:11:16   I'm saying know that they're selling them at cost times whatever minimal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7876">TS</a>]

02:11:21   profit Tim Cook and jeff williams you know want out of these things but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7881">TS</a>]

02:11:25   the margins on these things I think are significantly lower than apples typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7885">TS</a>]

02:11:29   margins and that they're not selling them for a profit they wanted to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7889">TS</a>]

02:11:32   them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7892">TS</a>]

02:11:33   this is the lowest price we can get away with selling them at and make a profit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7893">TS</a>]

02:11:36   and 159 is a very unusual price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7896">TS</a>]

02:11:39   well even 149 would have been more typical for apple and here's the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7899">TS</a>]

02:11:43   what I mean we won't know until next year but here's the town what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7903">TS</a>]

02:11:48   if next year they're still 159 well maybe the price of making didn't come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7908">TS</a>]

02:11:53   down two years from now though if they don't get the price down to 129 or 99 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7913">TS</a>]

02:11:58   something like that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7918">TS</a>]

02:11:59   ok i would i would dense concede that they are trying to make money selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7919">TS</a>]

02:12:03   air pods I expect that it next year and or the year after that the price is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7923">TS</a>]

02:12:09   going to go down on airports because they really want these to be in as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7929">TS</a>]

02:12:13   years as possible and it's more important to then then making profit i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7933">TS</a>]

02:12:18   don't think at all that this is a money grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7938">TS</a>]

02:12:23   and the reason i don't think that is because if it was a money grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7943">TS</a>]

02:12:30   they didn't have to do all of these extra things that they did they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7950">TS</a>]

02:12:34   just make a set of bluetooth headphones or they could have said yes our partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7954">TS</a>]

02:12:38   beets has these boot as bluetooth headphones i think that they are trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7958">TS</a>]

02:12:43   to do two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7963">TS</a>]

02:12:46   well one and two the first is that I think they are moving to wireless and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7966">TS</a>]

02:12:52   think in order to move to wire was they needed to build this w one chip and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7972">TS</a>]

02:12:56   is the first that we're seeing of this chip they've they're they're solving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7976">TS</a>]

02:13:04   problems along the way they're solving wireless issues along the way they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7984">TS</a>]

02:13:09   giving us features in wireless that we've never had before and to me that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7989">TS</a>]

02:13:16   not a money-grab that's that those are features that users will be able to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/7996">TS</a>]

02:13:20   and I agree wholeheartedly with you that in two years they want these in as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8000">TS</a>]

02:13:25   people's ears as they can possibly get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8005">TS</a>]

02:13:28   now I think I this is my hope and I really think that this is this is what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8008">TS</a>]

02:13:32   would bet on is that the price will go down steadily over time you're over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8012">TS</a>]

02:13:35   year and I i don't know how many years it will take but 34 years it'll be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8015">TS</a>]

02:13:40   the box with the iphone yeah yeah but they can't be yet it's too expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8020">TS</a>]

02:13:45   because there really are they are two computers your when you put them in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8025">TS</a>]

02:13:48   there are two computers that you're putting in your ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8028">TS</a>]

02:13:51   this is my favorite detail how they were and I think that they even say this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8031">TS</a>]

02:13:54   that the marketing site but they date there there little I don't know if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8034">TS</a>]

02:13:58   run iOS I don't think they do I don't know what but they run some kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8038">TS</a>]

02:14:01   know operating system their computers when they're in your ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8041">TS</a>]

02:14:04   they use a motion coprocessor to see when your jaw moves and when your jaw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8044">TS</a>]

02:14:08   moves that's when the microphone turns on to start listening so that you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8048">TS</a>]

02:14:12   know it's not it's like if you're on a phone call and you're just listening I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8052">TS</a>]

02:14:20   listening to you talk the microphone isn't going for me it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8060">TS</a>]

02:14:26   wasting battery life on the microphone it waits until my jaw moves for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8066">TS</a>]

02:14:30   start talking before the microphone kicks in when Adam that the motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8070">TS</a>]

02:14:34   coprocessor is so sensitive that it can it can pick up when my job moves yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8074">TS</a>]

02:14:38   it's crazy crazy now I ask them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8078">TS</a>]

02:14:42   I don't know if you talk to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8082">TS</a>]

02:14:43   about this i buy because i do this i said what happens if I'm walking down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8083">TS</a>]

02:14:49   the street singing Ozzy you know with my headphones in and they said they looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8089">TS</a>]

02:14:55   at me kinda weird i said yeah i know but i do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8095">TS</a>]

02:14:58   I you know I do it and they said well the microphone will come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8098">TS</a>]

02:15:01   because it won't it will well but why would it come on if it wasn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8101">TS</a>]

02:15:05   thinking about listening to you because it's not a context where it needs it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8105">TS</a>]

02:15:08   doesn't do you dingus know that I shouldn't have said that but i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8108">TS</a>]

02:15:12   along i don't know i don't sorry if anybody is very kitchens right uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8112">TS</a>]

02:15:20   oh good now i don't think it will because I yeah that's why you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8120">TS</a>]

02:15:26   double tap to get Siri you have to double tap for series so will not always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8126">TS</a>]

02:15:29   listening on the watch that doesn't work but on the earpods it does i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8129">TS</a>]

02:15:37   the microphone is listening to you just because you're singing Ozzy why walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8137">TS</a>]

02:15:40   down the street I think you could do it you should do a battery test spend an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8140">TS</a>]

02:15:44   hour without singing and spending our singing I think you'll see the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8144">TS</a>]

02:15:47   battery like the battery life difference between these and other bluetooth ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8147">TS</a>]

02:15:51   pods you know obviously those big over-the-ear ones from beats you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8151">TS</a>]

02:15:55   they get 40 right now we like I know it's crazy but these get so much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8155">TS</a>]

02:16:00   battery of samsung released a pair of similar earpods the ones that come with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8160">TS</a>]

02:16:04   a case that charges they get 90 minutes of battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8164">TS</a>]

02:16:06   oh this is a product that samsung released two months ago huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8166">TS</a>]

02:16:10   these get that the five hours they advertised are totally legit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8170">TS</a>]

02:16:15   I mean I think they undersold it because i took a cross-country flight and listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8175">TS</a>]

02:16:19   to music most of the time and got home and I had forty four percent battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8179">TS</a>]

02:16:22   life left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8182">TS</a>]

02:16:23   oh wow yeah I I said that I think that now we're being conservative but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8183">TS</a>]

02:16:28   now that said like when I went to the bathroom or forget what i did a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8188">TS</a>]

02:16:32   times during our to takeoff and landing for example that you have to take them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8192">TS</a>]

02:16:35   off you know turn bluetooth off and put them in the case so they did get to sip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8195">TS</a>]

02:16:38   from the charger but it's at that's typical use I didn't do anything a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8198">TS</a>]

02:16:42   normal person person wouldn't do who wanted to listen to music and podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8202">TS</a>]

02:16:46   during the flight the whole time so I listened to it for most of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8206">TS</a>]

02:16:49   transcontinental flight at forty-four percent but here's something interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8209">TS</a>]

02:16:51   and the the air pods never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8211">TS</a>]

02:16:57   I went to zero charge unless I wanted it to so I never got him to have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8217">TS</a>]

02:17:04   gotten below for sigh I diver and that's one of those problems five-day review or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8224">TS</a>]

02:17:08   I haven't really written by our partners i guess i should let him run down but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8228">TS</a>]

02:17:11   can I couldn't get the battery around I I ran it down to zero but I use them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8231">TS</a>]

02:17:15   use earphones all the time because I what kind what kind of indication do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8235">TS</a>]

02:17:18   get when it gets loaded just that it does I does the phone tell you do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8238">TS</a>]

02:17:22   be monitoring there was a beep in my ear I i noticed it actually last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8242">TS</a>]

02:17:26   because they went down to eleven percent and I I heard something in my ear and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8246">TS</a>]

02:17:30   thought what that's weird what was that and when i checked the the battery it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8250">TS</a>]

02:17:34   was done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8254">TS</a>]

02:17:36   it's at eleven percent of that . oh so the only time that they died is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8256">TS</a>]

02:17:41   wanted them to now it took it i also less than 15 minutes to get to a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8261">TS</a>]

02:17:47   percent charging crazy yeah so it was a was incredible i put them in the charger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8267">TS</a>]

02:17:55   and 10 minutes later I looked and they were almost there was like a 75-percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8275">TS</a>]

02:18:00   and I thought wow this is crazy i love and you know if I had kept checking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8280">TS</a>]

02:18:05   that point i would have I would have probably seen it at you know 11 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8285">TS</a>]

02:18:09   minutes where was completely charged but i had to go in and get a beer so by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8289">TS</a>]

02:18:16   time I get back that were completely charged to know i'll just i'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8296">TS</a>]

02:18:20   conservative and save 15 minutes but i think it was less from zero absolute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8300">TS</a>]

02:18:25   zero get that's crazy i still haven't written a full airport to review because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8305">TS</a>]

02:18:32   I even wrote me i just ran out of time and again it is the nature of being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8312">TS</a>]

02:18:36   one-person shop I don't have colleagues to review the watch while I review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8316">TS</a>]

02:18:41   anything like that and I really honestly believe that their pod to deserve their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8321">TS</a>]

02:18:45   full review they don't deserve to be like a little section of an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8325">TS</a>]

02:18:49   review because they're there that and interesting I had a friend yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8329">TS</a>]

02:18:53   asked whether I think Apple whatever do a wearable computer smaller than know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8333">TS</a>]

02:18:58   that a watch and I said I think they already did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8338">TS</a>]

02:19:00   yeah like I think that their pods legitimately qualify as a wearable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8340">TS</a>]

02:19:04   computer well here are a couple of other things that and you know just cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8344">TS</a>]

02:19:08   things you have the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8348">TS</a>]

02:19:10   air pods in your ears you you take one out and your music will pause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8350">TS</a>]

02:19:18   automatically you put them back in and the music will begin playing again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8358">TS</a>]

02:19:23   automatically and you can do that with either one because as you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8363">TS</a>]

02:19:26   earlier they're both equally as smart you can double tap on it and it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8366">TS</a>]

02:19:33   activate Siri on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8373">TS</a>]

02:19:35   DoubleTap if you're listening from your watch and it'll play pause the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8375">TS</a>]

02:19:39   died so here's something I did the other day quite by accident I didn't mean to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8379">TS</a>]

02:19:44   do this i had music playing upon a playlist from my watch I walked over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8384">TS</a>]

02:19:49   press theory on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8389">TS</a>]

02:19:51   the headphones connected to the phone and was waiting for me to to give my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8391">TS</a>]

02:19:56   question so i asked the question it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8396">TS</a>]

02:19:59   I it gave me the answer and then I left everything I didn't touch a thing and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8399">TS</a>]

02:20:05   five seconds it reverted back to the watch and started playing my song again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8405">TS</a>]

02:20:10   well that's pretty cool now that is very cool it's switching among devices you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8410">TS</a>]

02:20:16   know on the fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8416">TS</a>]

02:20:17   yep so I thought that was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8417">TS</a>]

02:20:21   I I you know I think and I don't know how much of this is software i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8421">TS</a>]

02:20:27   know how much of it is microphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8427">TS</a>]

02:20:29   I don't know how much of it is the cloud back-end but series voice dictation just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8429">TS</a>]

02:20:37   does Siri understand the words that you're saying to Siri is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8437">TS</a>]

02:20:42   ever and so today I was why I picked up my son from school and beautiful day so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8442">TS</a>]

02:20:46   we walked I was a little bit late and I was listening to podcasts so I double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8446">TS</a>]

02:20:50   tap my air pod never took the phone out of my pocket double tab i got that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8450">TS</a>]

02:20:55   little dude and I said text Jonas i'm running a few minutes behind probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8455">TS</a>]

02:21:03   five minutes late . and i waited and is just the right amount of time to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8463">TS</a>]

02:21:10   sure I was done talking and then series said ok John here's the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8470">TS</a>]

02:21:15   here's the message i'm going to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8475">TS</a>]

02:21:17   and.and should read the whole thing she got every single word of it exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8477">TS</a>]

02:21:20   right word for word and and then she was like what should i do and i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8480">TS</a>]

02:21:26   what she did and it was like I got the dude and I said send it and then she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8486">TS</a>]

02:21:30   said ok sent and then you said a pop beat or two later the podcast just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8490">TS</a>]

02:21:35   started playing again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8495">TS</a>]

02:21:37   ah that is cool and again I know people have complained about Syria dictation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8497">TS</a>]

02:21:42   whatever but this is on a major city thoroughfare here in Philadelphia that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8502">TS</a>]

02:21:46   wasn't quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8506">TS</a>]

02:21:46   I mean this is you-know-who you know pretty big street with lots of traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8506">TS</a>]

02:21:51   and I couldn't have been a better experience and if you know here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8511">TS</a>]

02:21:55   summer I've feels like summer at least I've got shorts on it wouldn't be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8515">TS</a>]

02:21:59   hard but that would be so much better in the winter when I don't want to take my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8519">TS</a>]

02:22:04   phone out if I've got gloves on or something like that or if I just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8524">TS</a>]

02:22:07   take the gloves off enough just that I is curious i have to test that whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8527">TS</a>]

02:22:10   double tap on that weather on the headphones works with clubs I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8530">TS</a>]

02:22:13   but anyway great product i only have a few minutes left before we gotta wrap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8533">TS</a>]

02:22:18   but anything else on their part you want to just talk about Apple watch series to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8538">TS</a>]

02:22:23   get a Porter's to I you know I don't want to toot my own horn but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8543">TS</a>]

02:22:30   feel like my Apple watch two series to review I feel like I really expressed my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8550">TS</a>]

02:22:35   feelings on it as well as i can express on anything else that it's they've Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8555">TS</a>]

02:22:40   this might take in the not Apple really got it had a had a loose handle on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8560">TS</a>]

02:22:45   the watch should be two years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8565">TS</a>]

02:22:48   originally in the intervening two years figured out what it is good for and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8568">TS</a>]

02:22:54   people want to buy it for focused on those things they made the parts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8574">TS</a>]

02:22:58   are good better fitness tracking and they made the parts that were problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8578">TS</a>]

02:23:03   they really didn't fixed in order the top problems on the phone are not fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8583">TS</a>]

02:23:08   that watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8588">TS</a>]

02:23:10   and it's I I'd it's just a very very impressive second generation device in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8590">TS</a>]

02:23:15   terms of how much of the low-hanging you know the problems they fixed and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8595">TS</a>]

02:23:19   much better they made the features that people really are using I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8599">TS</a>]

02:23:23   agreement that sums it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8603">TS</a>]

02:23:25   couldn't agree more and it is for me and it actually and it allowed me some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8605">TS</a>]

02:23:32   freedom and when a if you've ever left home without your phone you know it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8612">TS</a>]

02:23:39   you realize that you think i got no phone but when you leave home without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8619">TS</a>]

02:23:44   your phone on purpose you have a kind of freedom you know but I never leave home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8624">TS</a>]

02:23:50   without my phone now I do with my watch with the GPS i have my air pods I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8630">TS</a>]

02:23:58   those in i have a playlist on my watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8638">TS</a>]

02:24:00   I press play it shuffles through all the songs that I've loved and I just I walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8640">TS</a>]

02:24:06   and it's so good you know to have that 30 minutes or 35 minutes away from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8646">TS</a>]

02:24:13   everything and the gps still captures all the data that i want about my walk I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8653">TS</a>]

02:24:20   can is soon as I walk in the door it sinks to my phone and I can look on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8660">TS</a>]

02:24:28   phone which I did the other day I walked in grab my phone sat down and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8668">TS</a>]

02:24:34   pull it up and all the information was already there on my own and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8674">TS</a>]

02:24:38   looked it's wonderful scrape ah i do think too that people are underestimated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8678">TS</a>]

02:24:47   because the the the the white in addition to those things we said about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8687">TS</a>]

02:24:51   the watch every night it it is clearly growing independent right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8691">TS</a>]

02:24:56   yes you know this is 2nd generation but the gps is a very nice bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8696">TS</a>]

02:25:01   Independence it is obviously going to be and eventually be an independent device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8701">TS</a>]

02:25:07   it's going to have its own networking and it's going to do a lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8707">TS</a>]

02:25:09   without a phone tethered to it that world where the phone or the watch is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8709">TS</a>]

02:25:16   like an independent personal computer needs wireless headphones there's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+Btux-Au-Y/8716">TS</a>]

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