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169: ‘A Murder of Eeros’, With Special Guest Matthew Panzarino

 

00:00:00   alright we gotta move is that there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   emergency scheduled episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04   talkshow Matthew panda Reno's be kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4">TS</a>]

00:00:06   enough to shuffle the schedule recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6">TS</a>]

00:00:09   on wednesday night we got a baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/9">TS</a>]

00:00:11   game coming up big important wild-card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/11">TS</a>]

00:00:13   game with that the Giants and the Mets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/13">TS</a>]

00:00:15   I've got travel plans this weekend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/15">TS</a>]

00:00:19   have been rescheduled because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/19">TS</a>]

00:00:20   apparently a hurricane is coming towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/20">TS</a>]

00:00:23   the United States and so we can either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/23">TS</a>]

00:00:24   record a short episode right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/24">TS</a>]

00:00:26   short for the talk show or a probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/26">TS</a>]

00:00:29   know episode until next week so anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31   who looks at the time on this and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/31">TS</a>]

00:00:34   wow that's too short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/34">TS</a>]

00:00:35   well it's better than nothing and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37   those of you who've been begging for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   shorter episodes of the show here you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/39">TS</a>]

00:00:40   to gift just for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/40">TS</a>]

00:00:42   you're welcome thank the wild-card yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/42">TS</a>]

00:00:45   race ya i'm not a giants fan but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   family is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   yeah you gotta watch yep and the west [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52   coast team you know it's the hometown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/52">TS</a>]

00:00:53   team so you gonna watch anyway I tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55   people this i'm sure you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/55">TS</a>]

00:00:57   because I also know your uniform nerd i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/57">TS</a>]

00:01:01   tell people this and it blows people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03   minds even baseball fans that the Mets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   the the brooklyn dodgers in the New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/65">TS</a>]

00:01:09   Giants left New York within like a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   of each other and it was like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/71">TS</a>]

00:01:12   know 99 or 60 and it left New York which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/72">TS</a>]

00:01:16   used to have two nationally teams with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/76">TS</a>]

00:01:17   no national league teams and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   created the Mets to fill the void left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/79">TS</a>]

00:01:22   behind by both teams and because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24   two teams the Mets colors are Dodger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/84">TS</a>]

00:01:27   blue and giant orange and I tell people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/87">TS</a>]

00:01:30   this and they're they're like no they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/90">TS</a>]

00:01:31   not and then they go look at the Met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   uniforms and they're like oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36   actually weird and I'm like I and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38   you think it's a little weird don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/98">TS</a>]

00:01:39   think it's a little weird that those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/99">TS</a>]

00:01:40   colors don't really go that well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42   yeah that was the crime of expediency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/102">TS</a>]

00:01:47   there was no there's no careful designer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/107">TS</a>]

00:01:50   behind that one I don't think and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/110">TS</a>]

00:01:53   you know the other color for the Dodgers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   are the giants at least is black which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   doesn't really you can't really mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   with anything so it's really the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   know as long as you're going to go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/120">TS</a>]

00:02:01   this idea which was a sketchy idea i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/121">TS</a>]

00:02:04   think in the first place but there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   go there remind you and this is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   like not the same colors but it reminds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10   me of the mellow yellow car in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/130">TS</a>]

00:02:13   days of thunder because those colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   just so awful but it's just like reminds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/135">TS</a>]

00:02:18   me of a of a color scheme that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20   out of that scar like you know over like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   a late late nineties NASCAR car you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/142">TS</a>]

00:02:25   they're like they're more sedate these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/147">TS</a>]

00:02:27   yeah who do you like in a game tonight I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/147">TS</a>]

00:02:30   think that you know I think the gentle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32   pull it out they tend to they tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/152">TS</a>]

00:02:33   somehow by hook or crook they tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/153">TS</a>]

00:02:36   like will react better under pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/156">TS</a>]

00:02:37   and come through and you know I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   count Bumgarner out nobody's a just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/159">TS</a>]

00:02:42   amazing picture and he said he's a beast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   so syndergaard my mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   syndergaard for pitching for the Mets is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   one of the best pitchers in baseball you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/168">TS</a>]

00:02:49   can't go wrong with the Mets have got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   like their chances but I think right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/171">TS</a>]

00:02:54   given the last 34 years of baseball in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/174">TS</a>]

00:02:57   big game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/177">TS</a>]

00:02:58   I don't think anybody is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/178">TS</a>]

00:02:59   bunkar I mean the record you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   yeah it's crazy i mean the the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04   series their last world series when was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/184">TS</a>]

00:03:05   just insane you know when ya know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/185">TS</a>]

00:03:08   it is called me back in i'll do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   it was as close to 12 years ago was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/190">TS</a>]

00:03:13   about as close as you can get to us to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   single person one man winning the World [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/195">TS</a>]

00:03:18   Series first team to visit it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/198">TS</a>]

00:03:21   thats you know there's no other way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/201">TS</a>]

00:03:22   put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/202">TS</a>]

00:03:23   I i really hope the giants lose at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26   point though because i had if they win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   the goddamn world series again and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/208">TS</a>]

00:03:29   does every other year they what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/209">TS</a>]

00:03:32   would have wanted and yeah every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34   year 12 12 10 10 10 12 14 16 yes Aria 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/214">TS</a>]

00:03:40   12 14 16 right and then you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/220">TS</a>]

00:03:42   gonna finish last . places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44   yeah exactly they're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   insufferable to you know like all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48   fans of being insufferable I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/228">TS</a>]

00:03:51   locate iluv the Warriors you know i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   steph curry and I wish they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/233">TS</a>]

00:03:56   won but I'm almost kind of glad I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   because if they wanted the Giants one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/238">TS</a>]

00:04:00   the same year would just be impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02   I just be impossible and they did take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/242">TS</a>]

00:04:05   it to inseparable levels because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07   was a story Africans who published it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   might have been the business week but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   know someone even sports publication but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   somebody out of peace on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   Warriors while there are still months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/255">TS</a>]

00:04:18   away from the playoffs about how Silicon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   Valley geniuses have had one you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   beaten the NBA and its own game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/262">TS</a>]

00:04:25   created an unbeatable team and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27   a take it easy guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   yeah that was so that was a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/269">TS</a>]

00:04:32   remarkable piece of PR placement I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/272">TS</a>]

00:04:36   but I was pretty staggered by the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38   that one thing and I you know you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/278">TS</a>]

00:04:41   Yankees fan too i think one thing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/281">TS</a>]

00:04:42   youngest fans can agree on is that we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   not like insufferable fans blow right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/284">TS</a>]

00:04:48   championships right because we're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   humble and fall to the earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   exactly i heard calling card printer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/294">TS</a>]

00:04:55   I who else you like in the baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/295">TS</a>]

00:04:58   playoffs I i gotta say i'm gonna go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00   the obvious answers and it really pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   pick first if you don't mind I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/302">TS</a>]

00:05:03   scare ya Cubs and I'm i really hate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/303">TS</a>]

00:05:06   say the following two words Red Sox Red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/306">TS</a>]

00:05:10   Sox but then I hope the Cubs beat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/310">TS</a>]

00:05:13   red sox like that would assume you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   be delicious right yeah yeah that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/315">TS</a>]

00:05:20   be I mean the Cubs you know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/320">TS</a>]

00:05:23   I don't know I mean I think the Red Sox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/323">TS</a>]

00:05:26   is probably my number one pick and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28   would really detest that the Dodgers won [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30   but they've been playing so incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   well aside from these last three games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/332">TS</a>]

00:05:33   which the Giants destroyed them yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/333">TS</a>]

00:05:37   yeah I mean I think I think we could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   the one of those i think that when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41   watch them because i was watching to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/341">TS</a>]

00:05:42   the vin scully telecasts and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/342">TS</a>]

00:05:45   looked to me like the Dodgers I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/345">TS</a>]

00:05:46   they were still fighting for for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48   know home field and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/348">TS</a>]

00:05:49   there did wasn't like the games didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51   matter but they had already once they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53   blocked up that they were gonna be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   you know the middle still working to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   catch the Cubs so they weren't going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   get to play the wild-card team and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/359">TS</a>]

00:06:00   feel like I field wasn't enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   really fire them up they played flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   mmm yeah i think so I mean it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/364">TS</a>]

00:06:07   kind of you know bittersweet to I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   you have been Scully coming in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   doing Collin those games last games in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   San Francisco and so it was so cool to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16   see and it was just like a man you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/376">TS</a>]

00:06:17   when one first win one for VIN but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/377">TS</a>]

00:06:20   well and they got it on the the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/380">TS</a>]

00:06:23   dodger game you know I mean like yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   mean last home game for the Dodgers so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   light home game for the Dodgers one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   the dramatic walk-off home run that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   Scully got the call yeah that's true so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   I feel like he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/393">TS</a>]

00:06:34   yeah it is parking okay yeah they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36   that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/396">TS</a>]

00:06:37   anyway as we speak literally with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/397">TS</a>]

00:06:40   start of this podcast was the the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/400">TS</a>]

00:06:43   holdup was big breaking news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/403">TS</a>]

00:06:46   puh by you yeah uh yeah so Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/406">TS</a>]

00:06:51   acquired live which is the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   created by founded by dad Klaus madam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/413">TS</a>]

00:06:57   chair and Chris Brigham who all worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/417">TS</a>]

00:07:00   on Cirie which was acquired by apple in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03   2010 so they create the left in 2012 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   well over the years several of them left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   but dog left in 2012 founded a div which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/428">TS</a>]

00:07:14   is a next gen AI and then worked on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/434">TS</a>]

00:07:17   for several years and has just sold it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19   to samsung which is i think is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/439">TS</a>]

00:07:25   it they were either i hate to say i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/445">TS</a>]

00:07:28   not going to say that they were built to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29   be sold but i think it is then we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32   get to Google's announcements we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34   get to Google's answers later in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/454">TS</a>]

00:07:35   show but i feel like these sort of AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/455">TS</a>]

00:07:39   systems assistance systems are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/459">TS</a>]

00:07:44   fundamentally have to be built into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/466">TS</a>]

00:07:47   you can't just be a nap right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   right as a standalone company that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   what viv would have been is you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54   have to launch the vApp and then do your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   stuff and you could there's some cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/476">TS</a>]

00:07:57   you know that's how series started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58   but the everybody is moving in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/478">TS</a>]

00:08:01   direction of integrating these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03   into a system level so that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   address that you know yet whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/485">TS</a>]

00:08:06   so you can say that the device hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   dingus you know I'm you know to go get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   me an uber whatever that the baby or to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/490">TS</a>]

00:08:13   just have access to a button like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   way that the new google assistant works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/495">TS</a>]

00:08:18   with a long press on the home button and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/498">TS</a>]

00:08:19   the same way that zero works at cetera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   right yeah i mean i think with viv I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/501">TS</a>]

00:08:25   talk to . quite a bit you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   interviewed him in May at our conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/507">TS</a>]

00:08:31   in New York and I had talked to him a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34   little bit previously obviously in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/514">TS</a>]

00:08:35   run-up and you kind of get the feel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   what to talk about onstage and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/517">TS</a>]

00:08:40   they're their philosophy nice set of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   onstage to it's not like private [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/522">TS</a>]

00:08:43   information anything but he said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44   they want to you know they wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/524">TS</a>]

00:08:47   launch the app as a sort of proof of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/527">TS</a>]

00:08:50   concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51   right but their vision was the vivid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   button in every app next to every search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/533">TS</a>]

00:08:56   bar etc etc and I you know at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/536">TS</a>]

00:08:59   and I told him this thing that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   incredibly optimistic right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   everybody's sort of in introducing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06   own systems of this type specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/546">TS</a>]

00:09:09   because they don't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/549">TS</a>]

00:09:10   disintermediated by you know somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/550">TS</a>]

00:09:13   else's system right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/553">TS</a>]

00:09:14   apple in you know introduce serie for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   variety of reasons but one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   reasons is it you go to Google less with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/558">TS</a>]

00:09:21   it right you go to you go out to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   competitors product less with it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26   with Apple it's a little different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   equation you know you're slicing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   pie little different is it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/570">TS</a>]

00:09:31   necessarily make its money when you do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33   google search and click on that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/573">TS</a>]

00:09:34   but it it does compete with device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/574">TS</a>]

00:09:37   makers like Samsung and other folks who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/577">TS</a>]

00:09:40   are trying to you know carve out a piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/580">TS</a>]

00:09:43   of people's life you know and lock them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/583">TS</a>]

00:09:47   into a system that says look I know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/587">TS</a>]

00:09:51   much about you I i know all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/591">TS</a>]

00:09:55   things that I need to know to deserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57   you well and to do the things you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   me to do with efficiency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/599">TS</a>]

00:10:00   why would you ever leave why would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   ever go you know why did why do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   to do that and I think that that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   insurmountable or will be insurmountable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   very very soon as far as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   customer Locke in and like a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12   entrance into the system so honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14   this is a good time for them I mean he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   said this is about ubiquity because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/616">TS</a>]

00:10:19   Samsung has you know 500 million devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21   or whatever which you know that's a fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   statement like if you want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/623">TS</a>]

00:10:24   ubiquitous what are you do who you gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   go to settle for companies and three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28   them have their own already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/628">TS</a>]

00:10:29   you know I mean yep and yeah I I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/629">TS</a>]

00:10:34   it was destined to be acquired by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   somebody whether would be Apple or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37   Google or Amazon or Microsoft who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40   buy them to integrate with what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/640">TS</a>]

00:10:43   already working on or someone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   Samsung who is the biggest example i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   think of who just had this glaring hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50   in their own you know technology that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   they own that that that plays this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54   so right kind of I don't know any I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/654">TS</a>]

00:10:58   never met the guy so but just from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00   armchair quarterback position across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   continent it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/662">TS</a>]

00:11:03   I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/663">TS</a>]

00:11:04   I think this is huge news but I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/664">TS</a>]

00:11:05   the least bit surprised that Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   yeah no not at all i mean i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/669">TS</a>]

00:11:12   it's definitely if you were to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/672">TS</a>]

00:11:13   asked me a couple of days ago you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   which which company would buy this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/675">TS</a>]

00:11:18   know that like i said there's only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   handful and I was telling somebody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22   and they're like oh I don't know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/682">TS</a>]

00:11:23   know if they're so far along that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   couldn't have been helped by viv you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   know by this team and I think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   true that Amazon or Google or Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   could definitely have have utilized this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/691">TS</a>]

00:11:34   technology and expertise right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/694">TS</a>]

00:11:35   they've got an insane team but at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/695">TS</a>]

00:11:38   same time they've already sort of made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/698">TS</a>]

00:11:41   their bed and now they have to build on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/701">TS</a>]

00:11:42   top of that bed and this isn't the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44   to be taking that bed and throwing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46   out and purchasing a new bed you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48   and i think that that is its simplistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/708">TS</a>]

00:11:51   analogy but AI systems like this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/711">TS</a>]

00:11:54   need to be trained and integrated are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   not like plug-and-play you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   don't just kind of x 1 and then instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01   hey I as a as a concept is an additive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/721">TS</a>]

00:12:05   concept so you can sort of pour into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07   other buckets and it will improve them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   but if you're looking for like a cross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   device cross-platform solution that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/731">TS</a>]

00:12:15   of you know is your brain across all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/735">TS</a>]

00:12:19   this that recognizes people and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   context and serves them that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   something you just buy and go click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   click I mean theory took a long time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26   integrate and it's still like far from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/746">TS</a>]

00:12:29   as sophisticated as it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   or or sophisticated as it is but Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/751">TS</a>]

00:12:34   has not yet you know unlocked those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36   capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/756">TS</a>]

00:12:37   yeah yeah and you know i just posted i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/757">TS</a>]

00:12:40   just link to the article like literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/760">TS</a>]

00:12:41   while recording but I link to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/761">TS</a>]

00:12:44   article at TechCrunch and my quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/764">TS</a>]

00:12:47   comment is just does anyone disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/767">TS</a>]

00:12:48   that AI system technology is table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/768">TS</a>]

00:12:51   stakes for the next decade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53   yeah i don't know i think this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   those rare things where everybody agrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   I don't know anybody who disagrees with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   this you know you how you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   person's like no that's stupid nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   should have one of those right and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05   know it's just another way for samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   to sort of assert their independence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/787">TS</a>]

00:13:08   from google you know it right terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/788">TS</a>]

00:13:11   being at did it is not a good position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/791">TS</a>]

00:13:15   to be in for them to be big jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   weekly beholden to google to provide all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   of that intelligence not at all not at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   all it doesn't make any sense for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   and it hasn't made sense for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/803">TS</a>]

00:13:24   which is why they've been experimenting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26   with these and other stuff but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   Samsung they have two options they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   sort of try to create a mobile operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   system right like trying to like do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/812">TS</a>]

00:13:35   nandroid right . android and just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   turn and burn and make a mess of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/817">TS</a>]

00:13:40   and in the go as fast as they can and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   then have to clean it all up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   honestly enjoyed what I we joked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   this portion analogy with the whole you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   know the iphone like cave just refine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   this portion thing but there's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   another saying about Porsha which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/832">TS</a>]

00:13:53   that they made a mistake 50 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   and I spent 50 years fixing it and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58   that mistake was the teammate on rear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   wheel we will drive car with an engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/840">TS</a>]

00:14:03   in the back right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/843">TS</a>]

00:14:04   it's like now that doesn't the physics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   anybody check the physics and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/846">TS</a>]

00:14:10   know they're famously 911 famously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   squarely and hard to drive and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/852">TS</a>]

00:14:13   gotten better they've added traction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   control and new suspension and steering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/855">TS</a>]

00:14:18   assistance and you know better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20   differentials and blah blah blah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   on but it took 50 years to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   window space where you can actually take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   a 911 out and drive it to the store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   back and not be afraid you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/868">TS</a>]

00:14:29   end your life you know and like if if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/869">TS</a>]

00:14:33   rains for like three seconds it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   done you might as well pull over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36   no but i think that that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/876">TS</a>]

00:14:39   interesting analogy when you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/879">TS</a>]

00:14:40   Android because android was created out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/880">TS</a>]

00:14:43   of necessity you know what sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/883">TS</a>]

00:14:44   created to be one thing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   purchased and then modified for other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   uses and has been essentially fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/888">TS</a>]

00:14:51   right over the intervening years it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   patches have been placed on holes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/893">TS</a>]

00:14:57   things have been us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   d soldered and taken out and Bolton new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01   things have been bolted on and it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   the shape where you could conceivably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/903">TS</a>]

00:15:04   say oh you know I could pick up an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   android phone and use it for pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/906">TS</a>]

00:15:07   nine-tenths of my tasks or an iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/907">TS</a>]

00:15:10   those differentiating factors are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/910">TS</a>]

00:15:12   like the personalization and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/912">TS</a>]

00:15:13   customization and an artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   artificial intelligence is a part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   that like does my phone recognize me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   everything I have to know I need to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   so if you look at samsung you go should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   sam some pull an Android and build an OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/923">TS</a>]

00:15:26   from scratch or should it start with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/926">TS</a>]

00:15:29   core differentiating factor which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/929">TS</a>]

00:15:30   the eye and then sort of work outwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   from there because it has android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   doesn't really need to build something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/936">TS</a>]

00:15:36   Google's like open you know you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   all this almost all the stuff except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   the google stuff right and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   samsung going well why don't we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/943">TS</a>]

00:15:46   build their own quote unquote google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48   stuff right the stars that allows people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50   to go all i can pick up my samsung and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   just ask it something i can talk to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54   fridge and ask it something right which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/954">TS</a>]

00:15:59   is going to be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   this actually works out almost seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/961">TS</a>]

00:16:02   like we planned this but it actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   a pretty good segue into Google's event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/964">TS</a>]

00:16:07   which was yesterday as we record earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/967">TS</a>]

00:16:10   this week that made by google event but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/970">TS</a>]

00:16:13   first since we're moving right along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/973">TS</a>]

00:16:16   I'm going to thank our first sponsor is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18   our good friends at fracture fracture is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/978">TS</a>]

00:16:21   the company you know them they print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   your photos directly on glass I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/983">TS</a>]

00:16:26   there's probably a lot of people up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/986">TS</a>]

00:16:30   probably think well glass is heavy so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/990">TS</a>]

00:16:31   this is like a heavy thing to put on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/993">TS</a>]

00:16:33   one of the things I don't mention it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   stealing this from market by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/995">TS</a>]

00:16:36   markup mention this point on on ATP but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/996">TS</a>]

00:16:39   I'm stealing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/999">TS</a>]

00:16:40   one of the things that makes up these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42   fracture prints so remarkable is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:44   lightweight they are they they come they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   self hanging they call it but everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   you need to hang it on the wall is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:50   the back of this piece of glass so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   send them your photos they print them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   directly on the glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:55   it looks like it's right on the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:56   of the glass edge-to-edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:59   corner-to-corner no frame necessary it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:02   just the glass and then there's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:05   the thing you need to hang it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06   wall you just you know that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   come to your house and put the nail in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:09   the wall but other than that it's it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   hangs itself super-lightweight almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:14   like lighter than you think it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   which makes you feel really good hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:19   on the wall because you don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   hey this is like a big heavy piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:22   glass it's gonna break and put broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25   glass all over the floor whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:26   quality is excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:29   I mean these this is how I print photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31   I don't you know I can't imagine why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   would print them some other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35   great quality all sorts of great sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   great price they are made in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:40   carbon-neutral factory right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   beautiful gainesville floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:43   and here's the thing they're up in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:47   there there sponsorships recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   September our in October because these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:53   are fantastic gifts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   I'd really are it'sit's both they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   the people like you're you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59   given the grandparents given to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01   family members stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   if you've got kids get some printed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:06   pictures printed of them giving to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:07   everybody for Christmas and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   other holidays great gift for a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:12   reasons it makes the people begin to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:13   really happy trust me they love them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:16   it's so easy it is so easy for you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   terms of hey let's knock off of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:21   all the parents and grandparents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:22   stuff like that knock off the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24   holiday gift items [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   here's the reason I want you to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28   about doing that now or soon because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:31   these things are all made by hand right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:32   here in florida i'm not in Florida but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:35   right here in the US they get backed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37   for the holidays is what I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39   get that so you can't wait to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   beginning of december and then still get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:42   it by the end of $MONTH december for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44   for the holidays so think about it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   you'llyou'll knock off some on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   shopping list way early you'll be ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   of the game where do you go you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   fracture me.com that's our website / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:55   podcast that's the thing to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   that they're using the same URL for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1137">TS</a>]

00:19:00   their podcast at and then they'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   ask you one question survey of where did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   you hear about it from and that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   telling you heard from the talk show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   anyway you go to that URL you'll get ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   percent off your first order so the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   pictures you buy on that first order the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   more you'll save so go to fracture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   me.com / podcast by thanks to them so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:21   said segue going to that made by google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:22   event so while you know why should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:25   samsung be concerned about owning her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26   own technology for the stuff like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27   because to me this the week's made by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:31   google event which overall I have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   I was pretty impressed by but the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   is very obvious that Google is now going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:38   to favor their own hardware over those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41   of partners that the full experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:44   that they're planning that based feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46   like they can drive through AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:49   technology they are they clearly they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:53   said so it's not even implicit explicit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:56   in interviews this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:57   but they see that the energy integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:58   hardware and software is the way to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   imagine that you have surprised no other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:05   company has ever come up with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:06   before you know it's it's remarkable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:10   that Google was first to this this red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:13   realization you know I'm not gonna I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:18   not gonna drag him too hard right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:19   because it does they made a bed right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:22   and they had to lie in it and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   bad was that they had to be partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:28   friendly and you know this this open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:32   strategy whatever you want to call it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:35   really laid out a track for them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   they had to follow and they followed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:38   for as long as it makes sense and now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   doesn't make sense anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   the google is not a full the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   are not fools but the people that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46   have known or should have realized the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   partners you know that the companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   that are like oh google will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:51   betray us and right now they they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   always have our interests at heart etc I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   do think google meant it and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   part i don't think it's any coincidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58   at all i've mentioned this briefly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:01   short tfpc other day um pointing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:04   that you know how like the 2010 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:07   particular was the year where was where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:08   Vic and otra was on to giving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:11   keynote at i/o and really dug into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:15   anti iphone anti-apple anti Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18   sort of a sentiment you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:22   literally said something to the effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:23   of one man one phone one company one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:28   carrier is you know where we're here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   stop that from dominating mobile for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32   coming decades and really meant i truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:36   think I think vent conductor meant it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   think Andy Rubin was very much along you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:41   know I'll on that that it was a strength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   of Android to be microsoft to the pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:46   industry you know 222 not you know only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:51   do like reference hardware and just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   the software and I really think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   they they thought that they could that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   they that Android would lead to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:00   windows like monopoly over mobile right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:05   and they were still they still thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:06   that in 2012 right i think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09   Galaxy Nexus the nexus 7 tablet that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:13   that streaming device that nexus 6 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:18   orb forget what they called it exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:21   but it was like the ball thing and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:25   was that that was that particular Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:26   i/o when they introduce all those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   and and there was like some additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   glass stuff the Explorer edition of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:33   glasses when that was launched and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:34   everything and yet that particular one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:37   they also made a lot of you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   kind of in you know whatever you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:43   call it but uh predictive or or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:47   hypothetical but not really hypothetical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   statements about software and hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   integration and how they could only do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:52   certain things that they took control of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   bolton and they would show their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   partners how you no good it could be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   they would follow suit and this is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   they were dealing they were could trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:01   to roll out several small software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03   updates on to limit fragmentation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:07   all that stuff and then 2012 wait I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   remember tweeting this because my I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:12   remember the first reply was do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:13   realize the stupidity of that tweet with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:16   it whatever the verb it was really funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:20   because nobody replied to it at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:21   everybody liked favorited but nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23   replied in the negative took a year i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   proposed to the jun 27 but without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:28   tweet right well the tweet was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   hardware and software hardware plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   software epiphany that Apple 1979 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35   microsoft 2012 because the surface thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:38   and then Google 2012 in other words like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:41   they're they're saying like all maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   the right way to do this is to do both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   right and to say maybe there are maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:48   there you could do the other but for I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:51   was being a bit facetious because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53   obviously that hardware software join [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:57   made less sense for a variety of reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   that have been gone over at nauseam by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01   you and other folks in all of us over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03   the years making less sense on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   desktop than it does on mobile right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07   mobiles lack of tolerance for weirdness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   and it's it's intimate nature and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:12   of other things it just apple had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   right formula for it which is why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   iPhone was such a hit right off the bat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:17   and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:18   so Microsoft and Google in 2012 kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:22   shifted their gears and were like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   maybe we should take full control over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:27   these mobile experiences because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:28   are not getting them right and letting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31   our partners diddle around with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:32   hardware is not going to you know or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:36   software microsoft case is not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   to make a device that's holistically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:41   like feels great and and engenders love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:44   and loyalty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:45   do you think it took them that long ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47   to get to the point where they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:48   these pixels dude or do you think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:51   there were further epiphanies along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   line I don't know i mean it that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:56   that's the joke i was making about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:59   know Google convincing people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:00   they're launching their own phones for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:01   the third time for the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   because they had you know the google the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:06   android the one yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:10   yeah and then they had Nexus phones of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:13   course and then this is sort of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   third time they've done this but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   seems for better for worse they see more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:20   serious about it now and I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   serious about it now because they're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23   a place where their their competitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:27   they're real competitors are our four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:30   real partners partner / competitors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:33   very seriously thinking about divorcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36   themselves right and going like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   hey what do we do when Google is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41   answer or how do we fork you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   android in a way that's to our advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46   like you know amazon attempted to do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:49   i think that they're basically they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   at it and say well eventually it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   to happen and somebody's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:54   good at it so why don't we just do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   why don't we be the person that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:57   at it and that's why we're getting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:00   third attempt yeah um as for the phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:05   themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:06   I I almost I i I'm one who is largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:11   offended by ripoffs and I you know over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:15   the years have you argued with people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:18   Twitter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:19   you know I was certainly of of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   belief that Samsung ripped off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   iphone i know in those phones that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:28   the the subject of the big case that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:31   went to court I largely agree with apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:35   on the merit of most of their arguments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:38   there and and the counter-argument was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:39   always from people who either i I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:42   think that they're mentally made-up not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44   to snow to see or notice these things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   the way that like for exist the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:49   example I can think of is the way some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:50   people just don't notice the differences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   between fonts and so yes they can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   the difference between like a seraph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   renaissance-era because you can say see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58   these little feet at the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1618">TS</a>]

00:26:59   that's the Saracen oh yeah I see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   but they don't see the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03   between x and Garamond and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05   see the different even between future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   and helvetica let alone the subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:10   differences between say helvetica and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12   ariel which is an actual ripoff . it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:15   ripoff of oh yeah so I i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:18   there's people who just don't see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:19   differences like that in industrial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   design and they great arguments like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   well there's only so many ways to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   round corner round rectangular piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:28   glass and it's like uh no that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:32   true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   yeah yeah I think it's like trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   tell somebody who's colorblind like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:39   is lavender and they're all know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40   not your old ok nevermind because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42   just don't we'll never see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   these these pixel phones are so clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   it following the design of the iphone 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:50   that it i mean it's to a degree that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:54   don't think i've ever seen in any phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:55   any post iphone competing phone ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:58   these are the biggest rip-offs of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:01   iphone industrial design ever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:04   there's it's almost so absurd that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07   almost salute them for it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09   there's a certain integrity to it where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11   they're just explicitly saying yes we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12   making phones that make it look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   iphones they're not I don't even think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:15   they're quite denying I mean they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   even talking about in some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:18   articles that they've made a few choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20   to may not make them look like iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   but at nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23   there's so much like iphones in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   the the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:28   shape just the basic shape that it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:32   don't see how anybody could look at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   and first thought not be wow those look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:35   exactly like the iphone 6 right there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:38   almost an integrity to the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:39   they are if we're going to copy Apple we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   might as well copy Apple yeah yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:44   like you know recently Instagram copied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   snapchat with their stories thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   yes and and they basically said yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   check came with a really good idea so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   this is our spin on it which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   like you know Facebook is copied a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:55   of features from snapchat over the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   or tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:58   and most of the standalone maps have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1738">TS</a>]

00:28:59   failed at instagrams you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01   though it's under the facebook umbrella [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03   it's led by you know people who will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:04   make decisions and in this case they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   either made the decision or convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:09   somebody above them to allow them to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   look we thought it was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   so this is our spin on it and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   that's the kind of us there's a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   scenario going on here where they may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   not explicitly say because google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:20   probably has a little bit more you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   layers of interruption between somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   just coming out and saying that and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:25   but I do think that it there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:29   element of the design is great we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:33   just going to use that because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   design is not really all that important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   to us in terms of in terms of appearance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   right i'm using design here in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   terminology of you know physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:44   industrial design physical appearance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   not the holistic design capital D where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:50   it's the way it works in looks but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52   think they said you don't hate there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:53   certain choices we need to make but one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   of those choices is not to be wildly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   different you know too wily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59   differentiate the look and feel and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   the way I feel about it is the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   the phone is perfect because it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:06   pixel which obviously to anybody you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:09   know in the computer world or honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12   most people probably know at least what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   a pixel is because 9 times out of 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:17   when you tell anybody about like a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:18   or something all how many pixels that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:19   have right they don't really know or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:22   pixels a camera have they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   don't really know what it means and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25   that translates you know from a capture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   element to an actual pixel on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:28   but pixels like a really broad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:31   recognizable term so a1 you know number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:35   one broad recognizable term so that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:36   great right that's a good choice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:39   second is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40   emphasizes what's on the screen right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:43   the software and to google the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   is a vehicle for their AI and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:49   other software they want to launch on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50   and to apple the hardware is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:53   and then people build to suit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   hardware like that's the way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   that's their philosophy their entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   developer ecosystem builds to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   precise specifications available on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   devices and that's what leads to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04   know theoretically great experiences but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   google is basically like hey we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:10   provide all the experiences people need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:11   or that we really care about and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:14   pixel calling it pixel Telegraph's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   it says it's about what's on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   it's not about what's around the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   you know don't worry too much about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:23   we're gonna give you a design that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:24   that feels familiar that you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:27   oh I could that's a phone I could use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:28   that thing you know and that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   they're good they're golden the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   it is on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   here's my biggest question that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37   you know it's a win for them honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40   and it's it doesn't have a camera bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   and that was one of the first things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   noticed one of the things that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:45   copied though is they put the camera in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   the same corner that the iphone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49   always put the camera and that right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   one of the weird things that I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:52   wondered about that here we are all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   know nine years with ten generations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   the iphone and every single one has had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:59   the camera in the top left as you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   at the back face of the camera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:04   almost all competing phones put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:07   camera in the it in the center more or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   less where the apple logo goes on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   iphone and where the pixels put their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:14   finger in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:14   fingerprint sensor most other phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17   that put the cameras there whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:18   there's a bump whether there's no bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:21   I've never quite understood why since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23   you know just it not even making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   argument of why the iphones placement is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:26   better but given that the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28   oh it is for sure i think so too because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   i think it it keep its more likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   keep your finger out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:33   professionals people are right-handed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   and you bring up the phone and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:36   people are going to take in horizontal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   and so you bring up the phone and turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:39   it horizontal and you tap it with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:41   right thumb and your your other fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43   in front of it holding it stable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   then that way you don't finger in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:46   of the lens it makes total damn sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   it's like the right place to put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:49   camera and Android phones that's all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   always have my damn finger in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:52   the camera after me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:53   but I do too and I don't know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   because I have a I have a finger in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   hole handheld habits that that coincide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1977">TS</a>]

00:33:00   with it or not I'm looking at my Moto X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:04   right here and I just remember I've I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   often said hold it up and my fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   right over the camera yeah Nexus 5 is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:11   the center so they sort of like that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   will be agnostic you left hand right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   hand here here was my first question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   though as soon as I saw the design and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   this is before you know before the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:20   because it leaked and I was like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:21   there's no camera bump so how are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   not having a camera pump is it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   they made the phone thicker there is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   did that they've got the somehow they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30   got superior optics so the iphone 7 is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:37   have it right here in front of me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   7.1 millimeters thick and the seven plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:43   seven point three millimeters thick so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:46   two-tenths of one millimeter thicker for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48   the plus than the regular seven and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   there's a big bump the pixels dimensions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:53   on Google's tech specs page are for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:59   thickness i don't understand what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:00   means 7.3 and then a tilde 8.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:05   millimeters and that's for both phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   the pixels and pixel x 8.5 at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:10   because there's a plate of glass or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:11   whatever that is and I top i think so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13   i i don't know i haven't seen anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   answers so i think that they're slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   wedge shaped sort of like a you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:21   not quite to the to the narrow to like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   blade like a macbook air but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   they're they're not when you look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28   in profile from the side it doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:31   like the bottom is as thick as the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   it's thinner at the bottom than it is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:34   the top so it's sort of like the slope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:37   the whole phone up to where it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   a bump right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:42   yes that I i totally agree i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:43   that's what happened there I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   didn't go to the event so I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:46   handle myself but I did ask somebody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:50   I believe that's what they told me there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:51   is that sort of like piece of the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   material at the time I hesitates just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:56   say glasses i want to be wrong i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58   think that it's just but it doesn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00   jump in thickness i think it is a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02   a gentle wedge shape but a and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:05   product photography family though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   their product photography seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   purposefully obscure that it it's my eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:13   i looked at product photography for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   awhile before i even thought to suspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   mhm and yeah I'm i actually win our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   back-end here because are our guys were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:24   at the event we generally when we shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:27   pictures we dump them all into the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:28   end so people that are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   utilizing there are you writing articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   about them can pull them up and so let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:35   me I'm pulling one up here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37   yeah and he's holding it at an angle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39   you can clearly see that part of the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   is raised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:41   now whether it's like a wedge from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:44   know what two-thirds up the phone it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46   starts out at like you know eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   millimeters and then it goes up to 8.3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   at the very top i don't know but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   definitely like it raised at the top the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:55   top third of the phone is raised off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57   the rest of the phone so I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   hiding a lot of the bump in there and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   you look at the camera it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:02   because they there's actually a slur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   sort of slight indention it slopes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:07   words at the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   yeah so i don't know i think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   combination of things i think they found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:12   out they figured out a way to make it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   soon as possible and then they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   sloped it up a little bit but yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   a clever clever way to get rid of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   bump for sure and I will you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   certainly would allow it to still sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   flat on the table with no wobble so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:27   have to say it i mean i'm willing to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   that it's a complete win without seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   it myself i mean i think i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   buy one because it hadn't bought android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35   phone in a while and it seems like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:36   would be the one to by adding an upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   from my 5x to you so I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:42   it's you know I i still hate the bumps i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   like that i like the seven bump better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   i've said this before I like the seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:47   bump better than the six and success but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   because to me it's more of an honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:50   bump it's like yeah man we've got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   we've yeah we definitely you see an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:55   erotic photography like this van has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:56   camera in here and there were entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58   articles two years ago about how Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:01   product photography hit the bump and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:04   yeah they had profile pictures were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   theory you think you would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08   able to see the bump and you didn't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:11   then there were a few no defenses where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:12   people were making their own photos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   I give you hold it just right you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16   take a real photo and not show the bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18   by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:19   you know just the exact shooting from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   the opposite side and you know putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   it at the exact right angle and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   just hold up my phone to my eye and hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   it sideways and if I hold it just right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   it looks like it's a perfect profile and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   I don't see the bump but I'm doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32   was dishonest whereas now apples product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:35   photography highlights the bump they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   got like a beautiful reflection off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   jet black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:40   you know aluminum right and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:43   reflection is not an accident right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:46   yeah so you know i'm not willing but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   know overall I think not having a bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:51   you've got to say if it otherwise it fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:53   you know it doesn't feel too thick in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   your hand said trip this could be a win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   for the pixel over the iphone yeah man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:00   who who wants me nobody wants a bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   that bum probably just drives Johnny in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:05   scene right all right but it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08   you gotta do what you gotta do i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:09   having an asymmetrical pro overall the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   whole phone being a symmetric would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   drive him nuts too though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15   yeah yeah that's true but like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17   still see why it I could I could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   wouldn't be no I would almost be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21   surprised if Apple didn't consider a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   wedge-shaped designed to accommodate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   you know the necessary thickness of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:30   camera unit and I could see why apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   rejected it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   I remember that wedge shaped design that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   who said that was going to have a ware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:37   was a josh polski or somebody like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   i think so this is my next just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   something that was gonna be like a wedge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:42   so maybe they were considering a wedge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:45   at some point right now maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:46   wasn't totally got pulled out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   maybe that wasn't i would be surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:51   at all but I can also see why they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   rid of you know didn't go that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   sure I'm what else about these funds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:59   they did move they move with the volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   to the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   yeah which is where a lot of Android you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06   have had the volume right right yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09   mean i like everyone look I like them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   mean i think that they're a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:12   awkward the mix of materials is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   really my bag you know like the two-tone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:17   thing yeah it's it just seems a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   bit contrived to me and I don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:22   they have antennae lines and huge window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:28   that could theoretically be transparent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31   to dig the hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   but that you know I'm not a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:34   designer so yeah we like very logical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   reasons and all of that stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:39   right and it like the iphone 4s had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:43   breaks the antenna was the frame around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:46   the sides and in their famously there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:49   were breaks in there for different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   antennas to not be touching each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53   but then the back was made out of class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:55   and therefore signals kk through i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   quite get why they've got a one-third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59   class back and two-thirds aluminum and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:03   antenna lines but I I could see why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   have glass if they wanted to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:06   antenna signal to get through and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   could see having an antenna lines for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:09   the reasons that the iphone 6 and 7 have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   antennae lines but i don't see both yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:16   it'll be curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:17   it's a very technical design right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:20   like it screams like this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:21   technical we have lots of things going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23   on and i think that's that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   interesting play and they probably did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:29   it intentionally right because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:30   this is their high end of the android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   market which is something we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   talked about yet but pricing why's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   is an expensive phone right this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   like the Nexus 5x hey get one for 250 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:41   bucks flat-out you know or whatever one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   sale or with a coupon you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46   this your expensive six and fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:47   dollars to $18 an hour and fifty dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:50   phones or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:51   yeah they're very comfortably price to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53   the iphone 7 mm I it's a hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:57   twenty more for the for the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   display who instead of a hundred more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02   and they have to storage tiers 32 in 128 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:05   and the 128 i think is that I think are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:09   both might be exactly the same prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   the same iphones right so I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:16   whatever math Apple was doing wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   just about gouging now i don't think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:22   i think the colors are called very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:25   silver quite black and limited edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:29   really blue which is already out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:32   I almost bought the blue-eyed literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:35   pull it up and I was pre ordering it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   then I decided to just kind of wait and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   see what the first impressions were and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   no did you order one already now i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   i'm going to buy him too but i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:46   privatized by black I want to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:49   although I'm curious why blue is limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   edition is it just artificial scarcity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   or is it because we harder to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   finishes are tougher you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57   like even that look at the jet-black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:59   right it's like you know some does nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   step process that they have to analyze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   it and they have to clearcoat it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:04   polish it and click on and polish it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   click on policy just takes longer i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   would guess they just produced a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:09   less of them because of that it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:12   like most of their product photography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:13   is the very silver they skipped gold so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:18   there's no gold they can accuse them of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:19   ripping off following apple in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   regard i'm kind of impressed if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:24   black looks as good as it does on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   aluminum that i'm kind of impressed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   they've already caught up and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   who knows how much of that expertise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:31   google broad and how much out who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   how much they're leaning on HTC but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:36   famous right the reason that we've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:37   space gray for a couple years is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:40   black proved so hard even for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:43   whose whose unparalleled expertise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:46   materials you know couldn't even get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:49   right and here they're coming out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:50   black out of the out of the box with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   black anodized aluminum yeah yeah like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:55   said I haven't seen in person so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   know how how black black is but it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59   pretty black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:00   I mean look at you look at the black top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   section and it is lighter than that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:05   it's not like Gregory like it like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   previous iphones were yeah it's a no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:11   there's some things that look weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:12   about it to me but it certainly is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   best-looking life our android phone I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:17   seen it all to my hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:20   yeah a lot of have too many notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:21   because they gotta differentiate right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   right here in this crowded market with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   bunch of competitors and you have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   sitting on this verizon shelf like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:28   people walk into the verizon store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   they're like all of it that was cool you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   know that's that's what they're playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   to that audience and Google's not this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:37   shot are all send it to this shot seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:40   to me to really emphasize I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:43   is where you can kind of see the wedge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44   shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:45   I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47   amoled display instead of LCD but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:52   about everybody other than apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:53   gone to AMOLED and there's rumors that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:56   apple is going to go to AMOLED [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:57   eventually sooner than later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:00   I don't know it seems to me like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   mammal it still has advantages on blacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   and I think their inherent to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   technology that a black on AMOLED is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   going to be a darker black deeper black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:11   whatever you want to describe it than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:12   LCD can never do but it seems to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:16   both technologies there are sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   approaching each other it does it take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   you know both are catching up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:21   strengths and weakness or strength of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   the others and get and getting rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:24   their weaknesses like the days when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   AMOLED couldn't reproduce color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   faithfully or I think you're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   yeah i mean i was always the the enamel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:35   with a new technology for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   and it was harder to make and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:38   else but it's starting to become much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:41   more than a widely adopted i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   ever stake in particular the flickr logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:46   with witches had the magenta you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   like you like damage your retina but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   just by looking right right that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53   yeah and while they finish the amoled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55   overall is that the colors are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:56   neutral right and like lcds always have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:59   a sort sort of like a fight against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   blue cast right now and that that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:05   moving to AMOLED sort of fixes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   without having to do software trickery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10   on top of it to filter that but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13   know i think LCD in plane switching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   stuff is it just like was so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:18   because it you didn't burn in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   there's like you know it's really easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   to to make in pretty decent quality but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:25   yeah I think everything is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27   AMOLED pretty soon because of the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   color rendition I think it just comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   down to this scale you know and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:34   to remember that for Apple to switch its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   they're switching like 70 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:37   displays in the first quarter so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:41   it's not surprising to me at all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   they might be late to that game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:46   just because that the kid there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:49   they were going to shift in the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:50   years when the color reproduction was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   bad and even now if they might want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55   they have to wait not just until you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   make one that's up to their qualities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:58   for just how good does it look really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:01   which is ultimately what Apple cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:02   about is not really what you can measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   in any kind of test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:05   it's just look just look at it with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   eyes does it look good but they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:10   to be able to do it where they can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:11   it an iphone quantities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   let me take a break i want to talk i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:14   want to talk camera on the pixel right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:20   but let me take a break and thank our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:23   second sponsor and just because it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2783">TS</a>]

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00:46:31   doesn't suck anyone knows work in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   corporate environment knows how painful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   intranets can be the contents tail the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:38   interfaces ugly you can't access it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   your phone you have to do with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:41   pinching and zooming and nobody uses it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:44   because i don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:45   igloo is an internet intranet you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   actually like because it's designed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:50   the user is designed to be nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:54   therefore people use it because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:55   nice and because people use it it stays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58   up-to-date it gives you the flexibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:01   to get your team's work done how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   want to do it where you want in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05   whatever device you want glue is truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:08   building a modern product meant for 2015 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11   not for 1997 you can share news organize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:15   files coordinate calendars manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18   projects to do's all in one place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:21   they've got annotation on documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   they've done a lot of work in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:24   year or two on the document sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   stuff and everything can be social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29   you can have comments if you want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   all configurable to comment and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:32   buttons so everybody within your team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   can do all the sort of stuff that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   used to doing our social networks right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   there within your own private internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   and everything is responsive web design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:44   wise so it looks fantastic on everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:47   from your phone to your tablet to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   big giant 5k imac so go to a glue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:53   software.com / TS TS for the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:58   it was awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   calm / tts and you can get a free trial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03   for your team and see for yourself just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   how good it is my thanks to them I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:09   wanted to talk about this so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:13   bright in Google's bragging on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   camera might be a great camera but their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   banking it all on these the scores from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:21   dxomark and I didn't have time before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:24   the show to look this up but there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:25   something else recently were taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   within the last year or so we're dxomark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:28   came out with something about Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30   image quality and they have this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   test that comes out they don't know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:36   do they run these tests and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38   get a number from one to a hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40   that's it like that so the the pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:43   phone how good the picture your kids are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46   yeah maybe six picture how good is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   am ready good but not so good it's an 89 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:51   and I'd this to me sounds like bullshit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:56   and i know some people will say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   that's because you're a fan of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2938">TS</a>]

00:48:59   iphone and you've got an iphone and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02   so if Apple had the higher score you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   be bragging about that I I don't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:08   I don't understand how you do this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10   it's not like the iphone is that far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:11   behind the iphone 7 is at 86 on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:15   scale i don't know if that's for both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:16   the iphone 7 plus and the seven or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:21   the iphone 7 there's a couple of android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:25   phones at 87 and 88 including the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:28   samsung galaxy s7 edge which i've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   is is a and I've seen examples from is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:33   probably the one camera that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   anything's better than the iphone it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:36   the galaxy s7 yeah i think so I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39   think the s7 is probably the best camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42   out there other than the iphone you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   if shipping phones or whatever whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   you want to call I i mean i find this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   scale to be a little bit weird because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:49   there's like the Moto z-force droid is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:53   rated higher than the I iphone 7 as is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:56   the xperia z5 the galaxy galaxy s6 edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/2996">TS</a>]

00:50:01   which is it a generation old HTC 10 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:05   mean that's the problem with numerical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   scales right is that the they don't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   any sense across generations they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   make any sense you know out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   model year and frankly they just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   make any really damn sense at all i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17   not a fan of numeric scale never assign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19   them to reviews not even think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21   enormously productive and I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:24   know you could give somebody even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   want to give the cheat sheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:27   you know you can my simple one-line you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   know kind of explanation of why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   something is good or bad or kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   where rates in the grand scheme of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:34   things and you're doing much people much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36   better favor than a number which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:38   it's not actually anything you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:42   it even goes so far like in it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   everybody is there even a consumer level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   people have gotten away from counting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   megapixels and you know for years people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:52   you know who knew would say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   megapixels are they are important and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   they certainly were pretty important in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:57   the early days of digital photography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59   where where you know if you only had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01   like a 2-megapixel phone you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   couldn't do is only that there's a limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:04   to how far you could even if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   perfectly exposed there's a limit to how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:07   far you can blow it up because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09   pixels just weren't there to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   poster size print it we long ago got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:16   past that and things like well how big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:17   are the pixels on the sensor not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:20   how many there are but how big they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:21   and that you could you know just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:22   simply that a camera with fewer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   bigger pixels could get much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   image quality than a camera with more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   but smaller pixels to fit in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   spray all right there so many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   factors kid photography is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   multivariate that the idea that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:37   could reduce it like at least with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:38   megapixel comparison you really are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   counting something and you can argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   whether it makes for a better camera or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43   not but you could say well 15 megapixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   is more than 12 megapixels you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:49   deny that you could argue about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:50   it actually makes for a better camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:51   not but it's at least when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   comparing those numbers you're comparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:54   the same thing whereas kept saying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:57   one gets an 89 I I don't know that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   seems like bullshit to me and I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:03   think that girl's heart was in it I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:04   maybe I'm reading into it but when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   talked about it on stage in the event to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   me when they said that I forget the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   guy's name it was talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:11   camera it just seemed to me like his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13   heart wasn't in it because google people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15   naturally google naturally draws people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   who want to measure things that are real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   and this to me seems like a bullshit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   center at the example photos they showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:24   taken with the pixels did look very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:27   yeah I have no doubt well I don't deny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:30   that it might have a very nice camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   it might be a better camera than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   iphone 7 I don't know but using dxomark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:37   to prove it to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:38   raises some rattle rattle works well if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:41   you go to mean the megapixels discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:44   I think it's apt right because you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   like in the first really affordable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   quote-unquote commercial digital SLR was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:52   the 30d right and around that time was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:55   the time of the age of the mavica most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   people don't remember it was the digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:00   camera issues through a floppy disk into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   that Sony made and then took pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   onto a floppy disk and then they came up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   the CD mavica and so on and so forth but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   from those days all the way on through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   to like and came out with this some it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:13   was a g6 and the previous model the g5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:17   don't quote me don't at me because i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   sure i'm getting these bombers wrong but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:20   something like you know 2008 or 2009 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:24   somewhere around there for a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25   earlier and they came out with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   compact g-series camera which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   know compact point-and-shoot and it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31   previous year's model year had been 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   megapixel and this model year was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:36   10-megapixel and everybody was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   going ape like customer wise like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   would you know go like why are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:41   you know where you is all I was some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   cameras at the time and they're like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   I do you were you know why just go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47   and you have to sort of explain to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:50   about pixel pitch right in the size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52   the capture element and how a smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:55   megapixel rating you know it anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   over 8 megapixels already going to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   you a grade 8 by 10 and and larger even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   so at that point it's all a wash and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:05   them to get better image quality they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:06   had to concentrate on the size of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   elements to reduce the noise and to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10   you a better picture quality all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:11   and so the numbers race is like a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:14   hot it's a just a long done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:17   I mean it's done almost 10 years ago now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   you know and that is that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:22   that when you get into when you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   reading things to America liso like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26   dxomark has these really wacky phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:28   rated above the iphone 7 because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   chart crosses model years and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   cameras have lower pixel pitch and worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:35   quality but in fact r-rated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   quote-unquote better because they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   rated on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:39   all of the older phones but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:42   have in addition like the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:46   bothers me about dxo the Excel has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   around for a lot of years but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   last couple years they've started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:51   marketing and attachment for the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   camera that is supposed to make it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:56   a DSLR quality or whatever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:59   basically a huge sensor much bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01   sensor that can fit in your iphone in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03   external unit that you plug into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   Lightning port right and it's like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07   sits on the side like I like a tumor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:10   you know takes better pictures and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   sure it takes but I've never tried one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:13   we are our camera guys have tried one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15   and they think it's fine but the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   is like you go dxomark you go to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19   review of the pixel and it's literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21   the logo the site the charts on the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:24   of the right-hand side of the page and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   the pixel you know overview is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:29   there and framing the pixel review of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:34   the camera is an enormous banner for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:37   DxO one iphone attachment and then down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40   at the bottom of pop up banner is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   discovered the DxO one crow quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:45   camera miniaturised connected with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:48   picture of an iphone and this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:49   plugged into it right so look I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:52   these folks are very nice i'm sure this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   you know this David Cardinal is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:57   you know the best work you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:58   writing this article but it does raise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   questions about how much you can rely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:03   the rating of a camera company on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:07   another person's camera when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   actually made for the same device like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:12   oh what's better the iphone's camera or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   the one we made for the iphone you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:15   and I look it's probably fine and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:19   probably like this three-point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:20   difference between that and the pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:21   probably doesn't have anything to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23   with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:24   it's just I always take stuff coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:25   from DXL about smartphones with a grain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   of salt as long as they're in the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:28   business i was well well my gut you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   right that there they've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   motivation to make iphone users think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35   maybe the iphone camera isn't that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   because they're selling a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39   camera that you can add to your iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:40   like don't worry you don't replace your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42   iphone you can just buy our camera that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   you stick on the lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:45   yeah all your camera is only an 84 ours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:48   too bad but we can make it a hundred do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   they give a rating to their dxo when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53   don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:53   no I don't know that would be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:56   though I would love to look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:57   maybe they really like a 70 or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:59   that would be funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:00   uh but any other pixel like I I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:03   it's hard to kind of make any value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:06   judgments on the camera until I take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:07   look at it right like I don't wanna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09   off the handle and say oh it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:10   graphic when it may be as amazing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12   just haven't seen it yet I that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:14   the worst thing there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16   specifications that do tell some stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18   about the camera it has a larger pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   pitch than the iphone so however they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   arrange their sensor and size of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   sensor they managed to map out larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:27   capture elements per pixel which does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   help write it helps with color rendition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31   the way that pic capture elements work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33   is that there's like a small flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   capture element that sits on the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37   the sensor and then above it there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   sort of well right and that well divides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:42   it from the capture elements next to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:45   and the way light shines in especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:48   from the edges can affect how much color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:51   information that that capture element [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   picks up and how it reads like a red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   pixel or green or whatever the case may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57   be and all of that is predicated on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3477">TS</a>]

00:58:01   large each of those wells are and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03   bigger the pixel pitch the wider those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05   wells are the better color rendition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   more accurate color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   the less you know weirdness around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11   edges of the borders of two colors where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:14   they blend into one another or divided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16   from one another all of that is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:18   be affected by the pixel pitch so seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19   a larger pixel pitch is already a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:22   sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:23   so that's good right and then on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   that though d do have a i believe it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:28   smaller aperture then the widest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30   aperture on the iphones think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:31   tool to point out whereas the iphones a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   big and what's one point is that i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:36   stopped her . i don't think perhaps I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   think it's a half yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:39   yes right anyhow it's brighter right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   so people are saying is brighter you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   know the iphones brighter but at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   same time the larger pixel pitch could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:46   offset it and then some right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:48   because it is significantly larger so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50   you know I'm interested to see what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52   can do it i I'm curious right it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:55   so many variables that go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:56   photography and that it really is e and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3536">TS</a>]

00:59:00   it's always been it's not just new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:01   digital photography it's always been an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   argument over how much you know how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:04   class you want to carry around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:05   right I it you know and in sensor versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:13   the lens and Indian a bigger people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   getting more light by having doing it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17   the sensor side as opposed to doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:18   on the aperture side it's it effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20   it in the bottom line is what is it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   to actually go out and shoot photos with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:23   the thing and that's what matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   one difference I've seen is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:28   doesn't it unless they're not talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   about it doesn't have optical image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:31   stabilization so i think on stills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:35   that's going to hurt them a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:36   because it certainly is gonna it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   really really does help with stills on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:41   video I'm not sure because it seems you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43   know there there there had to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45   good Drive gyroscope driven it digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:49   stabilization for video and they showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   an example that was supposedly shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   side-by-side where they exaggerated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   camera shake of video while you walk and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:58   they're stabilized version look for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   they're stabilized version look for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   you good yeah I'm still did you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   normal rolling shutter effects and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   you do get the little blur and low light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   and stuff but it looks like the digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09   mean you know this is Google's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:10   bag you know the digital stabilization i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12   would estimate would probably be pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14   good so it's not i'm not shocked to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:15   that it is pretty good yeah video but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   you had no no optical stabilization i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   have a nap and maybe there's other apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   that do it but I have an app for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   iphone called horizon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:24   I don't know if you've ever heard of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:25   it it's an app that lets you shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:28   horizontal video no matter how you hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30   your iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32   oh ok so then what they're doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:35   they're just using a crop of the sensor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   right you do it and so that you can hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   you now obviously did there there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   little you know it's not magic it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:43   doesn't shoot the same exact video that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   you would get holding it horizontally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   when you hold it visit you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:48   vertically it's it's a crop so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50   almost like the equivalent of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:51   zoomed in a little bit right but you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:57   a preview while you shoot but thereit's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59   I they must be doing the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:00   because it it also the other effect is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   even when you when you use horizon to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04   shoot even if you hold your your iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   horizontally you still get stabilization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:09   and yes you know it's all the digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:12   stabilization systems are exactly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:14   they're all based on crop and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:16   the most intelligent ones will crop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18   dynamically right the earliest ones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:21   the the earliest digital stabilization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:26   systems were all based on a fixed crop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28   so they would essentially crop in twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   percent of your resolution and then use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:33   that as a buffer right to try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:34   stabilize your image and the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36   dynamic ones the newer ones like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:38   google one most likely although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40   haven't read deep on it very that crop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:43   by how fast you're moving your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:44   these the accelerometer data and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   gyroscope data to say hey you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   you're vibrating your you know jigging a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   lot so let's go ahead and just drop in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:52   ton and then oh you're more stable now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:55   you've stopped walking or whatever let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:56   let's go back out and get you as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58   revolution as we can so the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3718">TS</a>]

01:01:59   intelligent ones that's what they do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   that's the way apples digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:02   stabilization works on the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:04   iphone success word has no optical right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06   I i think it's a win for the iphone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:10   and i will be proven out that it that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12   all of the iphone said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   + + + regular-sized you get true optical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16   image stabilization including for video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18   so that's how you what I missed the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   out of it into x 0 in general it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:23   worst yeah like yeah it's the one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:27   I keep telling myself to control myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:29   that my personal iphone just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31   have the 2x camera is that well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:34   doesn't know is so who cares right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:37   so I didn't get it is very shaky I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:39   tell you especially because it's 2x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:40   right you know so yeah it's like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:44   you pay but it's a it's a camera for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   well-lit situations while we're on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:50   this subject I don't know that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:52   anybody who knows more about the depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54   effect on the iphone 7 plus than you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:57   you had pre-release access to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59   feature a couple days before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:01   developer beta came out your explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:04   of it is as as detailed technically as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06   anything I've seen more detailed in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:09   regards even then what Apple is seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:10   because you you've looked at them to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   them to tell you like that the that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:14   wrote their own custom disc player which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:17   is funny because it came up couple times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19   like I keep seeing people say that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:20   like a gaussian blur which is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22   what you said your first version of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:25   support or irritated I'm so irritated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:26   right there than it was in my heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   right I it gives I think because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:31   remember talking to you about it behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:32   the scenes and you were somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   skeptical that it was a gaussian blur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:35   your life but he told me pretty sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37   right that's why you're here is all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:40   is Gaussian you just say okay yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42   doesn't honestly of a reader and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   sorry i don't have his I don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:45   tree in front of me but I'm he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:47   tweeted at me and was like hey this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:49   picture of a strawberry that you have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   your piece like I'm the edges of it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53   blue the bloom really looks like disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55   player and the guys probably in visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57   you know in visual work somehow he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   designer or visual effects of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01   is the visual effects supervisors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03   those people are writing articles about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:04   it now they all have it nailed him you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:07   know like they're they're super sharp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:08   about this because they do it all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:09   they in the simulate camera effects for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11   the right thing right or many of them do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:14   but the he said hey this kind of looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:17   like a disclaimer be sure and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19   no no I i was really like oh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   and he's like all just just asking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   I'm like no you're at you know it pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:24   you know actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   that look at it and so I went back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:27   yeah it's a custom disclosure so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29   really into that getting anything wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:30   so I just like it makes me itch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32   here's that there i've noticed and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34   had a little few brief conversations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36   with people on Twitter about it is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38   least for me personally while I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:40   shooting test shots with the iphone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42   plus review unit with the feature on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   looks to me like they're doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:47   different with the noise that to me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:51   gives a sort of film like grain to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:56   noise on those images and I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   the same thing on the non portrait shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:01   and I'm and I don't know if I'm seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:04   what I want to see because I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:05   been no I having it to have seen it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07   and honestly I haven't seen as much on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09   my shots but maybe i just have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   looking but I've seen a ton on examples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13   like these people are showing me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   things that I see on Instagram and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17   I'd i have seen a better and i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   know i don't have no information about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   whether they're artificially under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:25   sharpening it right or sharpening it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:27   with a tighter radius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:28   excuse me under noise-reducing it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:31   what i meant was sharpening with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:32   tighter radius because I'd i am not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:35   fan of how aggressively Apple noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:38   reduces their images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   yeah so I feel that the day iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   images while great would be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:47   subjectively right and this is me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49   talking this is not like some grandiose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   statement about better or worse for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53   everybody but I definitely feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:55   they would be better if they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   sharpened a little bit less while still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3957">TS</a>]

01:06:00   understanding why they do it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02   most people would just rather not see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   any grain you know and that to me that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:07   the trade-off and i get it i just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:10   yeah I've never been afraid of the grain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   I've used to when I shot film would tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:15   to just leave the camera loaded with 400 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   or even eight hundred speed film because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:20   i always thought like if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:21   leave some film in there be ready for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23   any situation and if it means that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:26   an outside and i'm getting a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28   grain because I could be shootin like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:30   with a hundred speed film so be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:34   because the color still look good and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36   can shoot indoors and and get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:39   exposure where I couldn't if i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:40   hundred speed film already loaded in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:41   there and if there was a slider I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43   set in iOS that adjusted the noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:47   reduction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:48   mmm i would probably turn it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50   lowest setting that apple would allow me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52   to get away with knowing that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54   isn't going to say don't know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56   reduce it all because that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:57   things people have been noticing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:58   you can shoot raw with the iphone camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:01   is holy shit how much noise there is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:04   the image when you shoot raw and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:05   everybody just once again raised right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07   everybody i know who's like using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09   Lightroom to shoot raw on the iphone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:13   as I holy shit these this I can do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:15   see this isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17   I'm sure there's somebody and Abelard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:18   you know on the camera team at her like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20   you did not have a small that sensor is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:23   and you know what kind of miracles were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:24   pulling and like I that's why am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:26   always say you don't I try to be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:28   careful and when I'm talking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:29   noise and say for me like I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:31   okay if they dialed it back but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:33   there really are performing miracles I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:35   mean honestly the raw image that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37   off of that sensor is already better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:40   than the actual data you know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:43   get so I'm going to think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45   you're getting a view point of view port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:48   with the raw stuff you know well into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:51   just how good the isp is yes and I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:55   know that you can always tweak it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:56   talked about this last week I must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58   two beloved devices not just cameras but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:02   devices I've ever owned was my original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:03   key Rico grd the first ricoh gr is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:07   . shoot cameras that they made for film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   for years and when they first went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:10   digital they call it the grd was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12   first generation one and it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:14   confusing because then they had the grd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:15   to in the grd 3i think and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:17   went back they went back and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:19   had one instead of numbering it for they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   just went back to ricoh gr and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23   very confusing but I had the original 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25   think about it in 2006 and the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:28   reason i bought it i bought it without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:29   ever had knowing anybody who owned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31   just based on reviews and it was gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:33   market wasn't sold it officially sold in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35   north america was that everybody said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:38   that Rico's digital sensor is tuned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:41   isp is tuned to to turn them make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:44   noise look more like film grain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   and everybody who had one on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48   boards would say so and i looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50   people's flickr uploads and looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:52   you know flickr will let you see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:53   original so like I damned if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   doesn't look like film grain not digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57   noise or at least less more along those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4137">TS</a>]

01:09:00   lines and the idea was and Rico is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:02   explicit about it as opposed to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:04   sort of secret of like Apple and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:05   really talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07   Rico is very explicit and said there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:10   limit to what we can do with these my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:12   name was a you know very small sensor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:14   for a 2006 point-and-shoot there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:16   limit to how much there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:18   noise and so traveler than trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20   hide the noise we are efforts are to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:23   make the noise aesthetically pleasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:24   and that's exactly what film the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:27   industry did for a hundred years so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29   the people who are like anti-noise would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:31   say are you film you guys are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:33   celebrate film you're just you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:37   room and rings and if you know it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:41   you're celebrating something that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43   that was a technical limitation anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   but I would argue in my my opinion it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:48   sort of as an amateur but the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:50   film grain looked good wasn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52   nostalgia it was because the Kodak and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:55   fuji and the other film companies spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57   a hundred years making the noise look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59   better you know what what I call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:02   noise now right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:03   you know that it wasn't like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   just because it was old that we thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   film grain look good it was that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:08   didn't know decades of work went into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:10   making it look good anyway I see it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:13   the seven plus portrait shots and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15   don't know if it's my imagination or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:17   yeah i mean it i dunno i do know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:22   they you know did the work that was done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:26   to tune the ISB was definitely done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:29   an eye to what it come in the past but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31   not just photographs you know other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:32   other works of art too i mean remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34   they're creating his custom from scratch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36   and apples never one to kind of go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38   the accepted wisdom around something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40   like that you know there they had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:43   opportunity to sort of tune the ISB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:45   however they wanted and now that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47   camera honestly whatever would what else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:50   is a defining you no definitive deciding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:54   factor between phones most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:57   is the camera these days now and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:59   argue that a ir like the assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:02   features maybe you what they're seeking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:04   for to be next but right now if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:07   deciding between three cameras three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09   phones on the Shelf you kind of want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:10   know which one is the best camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:11   because that's your camera to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13   it's it's a huge factor when they decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:16   on on picking stuff so now that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18   have an opportunity to to really have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:22   amazing camera that has optical zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   that has all of these additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:25   features that could be unlocked in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:27   future by having two lenses and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:30   able to tune the isp how they want they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32   can pick and choose in and really create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:35   a look that is new you know and it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:39   have some elements of film may have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:42   elements of what we consider to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:45   you know characteristic of digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:48   images which would be you know maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50   little bit crisper maybe a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:53   lower noise or whatever but I you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55   definitely kind of see them combining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:57   the two qualities I've been thinking one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59   thing that skirt Emil as more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01   people are shooting with this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   he stopped to have a beta so it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:04   pretty uncommon after a have to have his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06   iphone 7 plus and bf to be willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08   install the beta but I've seen enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:09   examples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11   it occurs to add this thought had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:13   occurred to me but now the more I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:14   about it the more i think it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:15   be a big deal is that the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:18   people who see your photos on their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:21   phones are you seeing them on Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23   on their phone or in facebook or on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25   twitter or something like that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:26   seeing them in such a small size that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:28   the smaller the size you view the image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30   at the more hot the more like a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:33   boca from a real large sensor camera the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:37   effect looks like you have to zoom in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:40   more to be have to make it really big to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42   see the the deficiencies of the trickery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:45   so right when you see somebody who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:47   an iphone 7 plus using this feature just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:49   in their Instagram feed your it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:53   going to be your that's more compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55   than looking at and blown up to a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57   size on your imac yeah and comparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4377">TS</a>]

01:13:00   like a lot of obviously and this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:01   a dig it's sort of what people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:04   see but comparing it against even in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:07   piece like I had to really had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:09   compare it against the same shot which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:12   it does shoot out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:13   matically the same shot without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:14   effect you know it because that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:17   we want to see right all what did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:18   look like before what does it look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:19   after but i honestly think that does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   a disservice because if they could then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   allows you to go through and like be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:24   really picky any about like all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:26   particular thing is wrong or this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:28   missed this or whatever but if you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:30   look at it in isolation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:32   they're really pretty good i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:34   there's some that are really funky and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:35   weird and dumb and silly and it screws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:38   up but it is very early and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:41   some shots out of it that are just great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:43   yeah and you don't have to use them Mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:44   if it turns out weird you got the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:46   one which would have been what it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:47   look like normally so there's no loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:50   yeah back to the pixel okay and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:57   don't think it I think that digression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   about the iphone camera is fine because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:01   it one of them had a big picture i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03   it's not just what the did the pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:06   look like with it before you even turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:08   them on and saying look this industrial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10   design is is just it blatantly following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:14   apples lead everything about the pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:16   to me is is saying we're making an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:20   iphone caliber you know if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:22   going after the iphone market they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:24   a switching tool that I don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:26   how it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:27   it's fascinating to me i can't wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29   see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:30   they have a cable they ship it with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:31   as lightning on one side goes into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:33   pixel on the other and takes things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:36   your iMessages and your text messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:38   from the phone I don't understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:40   the something with a lightning cable is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:41   reading that I guess it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:43   pretending to be like itunes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:45   something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:46   yeah many gay yeah you'll have to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:48   it permission on your iPhone way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:50   thought I want to trust it right trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:52   this thing and it will take it over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:53   I guess it'll put your I message and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:57   text message history into a low i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4497">TS</a>]

01:15:01   or or maybe their messages that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03   know which apt are going to put that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05   history into but that's a big deal like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07   this suit they really i mean whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:09   it's going to work or not they seem too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:10   seriously be saying look we know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:13   a lot of people using iPhones who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15   also using heavily into google services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   including I'm sure thousands of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:20   who work at Google and they're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:22   that they're doing the best effort they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24   can to say you would we want to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:26   pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:26   table for you to switch and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:30   couple of things that they're all on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:32   text back page in a way that to me these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:35   are a couple of things where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:37   obviously ahead of apple and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:40   say you know Apple it's it's they've I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:42   think that you know they really need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:45   catch up here's one of them unlimited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:46   storage for photos and videos at full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:50   resolution right if you buy a pixel your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:53   your google photos account will and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:56   here's what I'm curious about that is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:57   only for photos you've shot on the pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4557">TS</a>]

01:16:00   or can you shoot 4k video on another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:02   camera and because you have owned a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:03   pixel you can upload it all to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:05   google account em who I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:09   even if it is only for the photoshoot on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11   the pixel that's that is a hell of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:14   thing Apple gives you five gigabytes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:16   storage for free and that includes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:18   everything your backups your documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:21   and your photos and Google is saying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:25   photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:26   unlimited at full resolution that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:30   huge difference because really people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:32   run up against that five gigabyte limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34   if they shoot photos with any regularity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   let alone if they shoot 1080p or 4k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:39   video yeah and that thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:42   five-year my limit has been around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:43   forever you know I mean I'd I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:46   it's if it i'm not sure this well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:49   because i don't know if people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:53   know this is a big factor in people not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55   buying an iphone but if it does for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:58   black of a better word shame it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:04   shame apple into giving us unlimited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06   storage for free or at least some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:09   enormous amount you know some finite and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:11   but enormous amount every I would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:14   that would be that would thank Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:15   for that yeah and even if Apple wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:19   to segregate photos storage from other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:22   storage you know instead of just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:24   you're not one bugging out where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:25   everything goes into but but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:27   they should have both i think five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:28   gigabytes is not enough especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:30   didn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:31   I really think the morning but now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:32   the minimum font sizes 32-gigabyte how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:34   can the storage be five gigabytes oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:36   it's impossible it's ridiculous like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:38   go to backup and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40   my wife and I have different we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:41   separate iCloud accounts so we use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:43   same itunes account so she gets all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:45   purchases but she has her own iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:48   account so all of her photos and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:51   that stuff sink to her phone but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:52   get them all in my photostream right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:55   not because we you don't wear those you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:57   care but it's just a little less messy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4677">TS</a>]

01:17:59   and i got like 1500 screenshots and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:02   camera so you might see all that junk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:04   you know and these pictures of events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06   she doesn't even know what I do for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:07   living so she's ok but the that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:11   like she has a five-year quite so now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:14   have to pay to upgrade her when I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:17   already paid upgrade myself because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:19   have three phones and she's got her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:22   phone and my daughter's ipad and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:24   iPad and you know it cetera and the its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:28   full instantly instantly you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:30   to ensure that she doesn't lose stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:34   she's gotta back up to iCloud or up her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:36   iCloud storage because they mean she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:39   didn't have a computer like we are truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41   a post computer household aside from me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:43   which has to sort of is like tied to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:46   desk tops because I choose to be right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:50   mean i could probably do my job from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52   iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:52   don't tell my boss but you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:55   the big screens to help especially on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:57   busy news days or when I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:59   managing a huge team across multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:01   continents but my wife doesn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:03   and her work even better bring computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:05   into the water so she doesn't care right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:07   and so for her computer is your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:10   and is her iPad and she doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:12   anything to plug it into the back it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:14   you know if I wasn't if I didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:16   this you know desktop there would be no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:19   option to do that and not only want her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:20   to do that right because i erase and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:23   install beta hasn't all kinds of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:25   stuff on my machine and machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:27   encrypted and all kinds of junk so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:30   know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:30   maybe i'm not home she can't get on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:32   or whatever so for her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:34   I cloud is her computer right that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:37   her storage that is everything that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:39   all of the storage in the world that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:41   has aside from local on her phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:43   it's just really crippling and silly for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45   it to be so small out of the gate like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:47   it should guarantee that you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:49   able to back up a full iphone yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:51   out of like out-of-the-box anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:54   is just kind of silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:55   yeah and I you know it's it i'm only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:59   saying that Apple has to do this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:02   people who have purchased devices of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:05   know I don't know where you cut it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:06   but you know I i don't think that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:10   should necessarily get free unlimited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:11   storage to anybody who just signed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:13   for free by cloud account but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:15   want if you're if you've bought a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:18   device especially the iphones which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:21   start at six hundred forty nine dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:23   or seven hundred dollars or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:24   like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:25   i I'd you know and it's easy for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:27   always say this it's easy for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:28   spend Tim Cook's money from my armchair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:30   here but here's an existence proof that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:32   is possible here is a phone you can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:34   for the exact same prices the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:35   that comes with free unlimited cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:37   storage for photos and video so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:40   to me the bar is raised and it's way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:42   above it's not like two you know five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:44   gigabytes vs 10 gigabytes it's five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   gigabytes which is not enough vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:48   unlimited pure and simple that Apple it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:51   needs to catch up the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:53   it's right here is that they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:55   fast-charging they call it seven hours i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:57   don't mind sure seven hours of what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4857">TS</a>]

01:20:59   say you can get seven hours of battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:01   life in just 15 minutes with the pics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:03   right now I thought it was my guess was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:06   my guess was they've included a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:10   expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:11   hi wat adapter and i'm looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:14   text back and that's exactly it as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:15   comes with a USB c18 wanted aptor right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:19   that's the the thing that makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:22   iphone so slow to charges that it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:23   with a 5 watt adapter it's if you plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:27   an iphone i think it's true for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:29   regular seven but I know it's true the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:31   seven plus if you plug it into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:33   expensive a ipad pro at 12-1 adapter it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:37   charges way faster and apple sells I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:40   forget how many watts it is but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:41   sell like a fifty or sixty dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:44   standalone adapter that will charge it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:47   even faster than that so it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:48   iphones can't do fast-charging nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:51   just knows about it because they shipped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53   with these measly little 51 adapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55   that charge well sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   right like yeah it will charge faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   absolutely you can charge it with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01   ipad adapter it'll charge I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:03   no let's call it 2x faster right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:06   but the the quick charging that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:08   15 minutes 47 hours or whatever I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:11   that's like 4x to 5x the normal charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:13   rate of a bone and generally speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:16   that has to be enabled by quick charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:19   secure a circuitry so quick charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:22   circuitry and then a controller which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:24   controls that obviously the rate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:26   voltage and all of that stuff going into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:28   the battery by qualcomm makes a quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30   charge system right so if you're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32   snapdragons in your phone you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:33   there quick charge you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:35   plug-and-play and in your device as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:38   manufacturer I'm saying you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:40   you can grab Qualcomm's chip and and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:42   it in there and then we'll give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:44   faster charging and and all of that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:46   i think it's just a there is a real like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:51   there's a real disconnect between this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:56   concept of oh I'm gonna charge my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:59   real fast and i'm also going to ensure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:04   that the battery lasts a long time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:06   know and and doesn't deteriorate because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:09   quick charging does damage batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:11   right the faster you charge the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:14   battery the more strain you put on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4994">TS</a>]

01:23:16   and the more aging cycles you put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:18   that the chemistry so there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:21   trade-offs you know and sometimes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:22   get hot and sometimes they explode so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:25   quick charging is is good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:28   interesting technology that could very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:31   well paved the way towards like well if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:33   you can charge something in five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:35   who really cares how long the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:37   lasts you know I tend to think that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:39   the price that I phones cost they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:41   ship with that at least the 10 watt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:43   power adapter if not the 12-volt power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45   adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:46   yeah i know its integral chapter 2 but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:51   still feel like it would get your part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:53   of the way there i don't know if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:54   heard about this but it's because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:56   power adapters and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:57   samsung has some problems with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5037">TS</a>]

01:24:02   batteries in and their phones i had and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:06   i hadn't did you see the story today I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:08   sure you did because you stand out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:09   everything that some some guy was on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:11   Southwest flight this morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:13   and I his good note 7 he would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:18   even powered off he says but whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:21   it started burning a hole in his pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5061">TS</a>]

01:24:23   and so we got out of a pocket and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:26   know there's smoke coming out of it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:28   they evacuated before the plane took off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:29   planes on the ground and there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:31   the the flight staff on the southwest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:33   was like well everybody knows get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:34   everybody off the plane nobody got hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:36   calm and orderly you know disembarkation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:39   set the word yes and then they went in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:42   to take a look and it burned through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:44   floor of the plane I hadn't heard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:48   bit but the scary part the really scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:50   part is that it was a updated the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:54   that he just bought on September 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:55   hours and was supposedly had like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:57   marking on the package that says this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:59   one of the good ones not one of the bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:00   ones right which makes me think I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:04   been wondering for a while with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:06   fiasco and people keep writing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:08   because I think people don't follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:09   closely and people get on an airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:10   and apparently lately it's it were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:13   around the world you got on an airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5113">TS</a>]

01:25:14   and one of the things they say is if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5114">TS</a>]

01:25:16   have a samsung galaxy note 7 you must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5116">TS</a>]

01:25:18   power it off now and keep it power not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:20   for the entire flight which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:22   terrible publicity I mean just tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5122">TS</a>]

01:25:24   follow everything worse thoughts of will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:27   average has been ever I've seen people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:29   on Twitter saying that they're telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:30   people out in the airport to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:32   they're you know you know when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:33   like hey we're going to board your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35   flight 677 is going to board in about 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:38   minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:38   oh and if you have a galaxy note 7 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:40   gotta power it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:42   come on please board now we're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:45   seven just throwing the trash on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:46   way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:47   I've been wondering for awhile how are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:50   they going to deal with this when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:51   there's good ones and bad ones and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:53   you say oh no i've got i just got my new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:55   one but it's got the green battery icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:58   up in a corner its it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5158">TS</a>]

01:25:59   this one's good are they gonna they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:01   gonna believe that are they going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5161">TS</a>]

01:26:02   like no way buddy you're turning it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:04   and now they're gonna believe them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:07   you kidding me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:08   we couldn't for a decade we couldn't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:10   our devices on planes just because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:11   thought maybe maybe something might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:14   interfere that they had no evidence of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:16   so I don't think so my other thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:20   with this news today that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:22   quote-unquote good galaxy note 7 caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:24   fire on plane is that they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:25   wreck this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:26   for everybody and they're just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:27   say you've got to turn all of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:28   phone's power cannot just sleeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5188">TS</a>]

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01:26:33   on the plane and did you know whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:35   they can make you do that or not but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:37   they could certainly notice if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5197">TS</a>]

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01:26:40   you're dicking around on your phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5200">TS</a>]

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01:26:43   2013 that is God that is the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:46   scenario my god now you give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   nightmares for nick bilton 200 undo all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:52   of his work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:52   yeah yeah exactly Nick Bilton goddess to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:55   be able to use our flight while landing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:57   an hour damn word Samsung's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59   record for everybody well I i know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:01   gotta wrap it up i know the baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:02   game is starting but i gotta do a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:03   sponsored and we can we can talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5223">TS</a>]

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01:27:06   the rest of the show already in third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:08   and final sponsor amazing coincidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:11   given what we'll be talking about in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:13   next segment of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:14   it really is a coincidence but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:16   interesting is 0 te R 0 0 is a modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:23   new Wi-Fi system for your house and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5243">TS</a>]

01:27:28   basic premise is one Wi-Fi router is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:31   enough it's not strong enough signal for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:34   most people's houses maybe if you live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:35   in a oh you know studio apartment or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:37   something like that sure you're fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39   if you have a house that has more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:41   more than one or two floors or it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:44   thick walls or any sorts of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5264">TS</a>]

01:27:46   can interfere with the signal you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:48   notice that there are parts of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:49   house that don't get a good Wi-Fi signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:52   your hero is designed to change all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:53   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:54   they make a single device it's a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5274">TS</a>]

01:27:56   elegant box about the size of an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5276">TS</a>]

01:27:58   TV sort of apple style round wreck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5278">TS</a>]

01:28:00   design and you just buy more than one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:02   them so I think like one of the basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:04   packs that they recommend for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:05   people based on square footage to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:07   three pack you get three of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:08   you hook one of them up to your cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5288">TS</a>]

01:28:11   you put the other two strategically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:13   around the house and you that your work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:16   is done you just get negotiate that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:19   different pods negotiate with each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:21   and they just do the work to form a mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:24   network that blankets your home and fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:26   reliable Wi-Fi they sent me a three pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5306">TS</a>]

01:28:29   when they started sponsoring the show i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31   set it up i set it up thinking okay I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:34   set this up and then I'll go back to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:36   Apple whatever its called ah and I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:40   went back to my airport because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:43   Eurosystem was as good or better at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:47   every single spot in my house and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:49   didn't I really was more work to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5329">TS</a>]

01:28:51   unbox the devices and plug them in then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:53   it was the to set it up that's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:55   unbox it you plug them in and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5335">TS</a>]

01:28:57   done it's unbelievable the configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5337">TS</a>]

01:29:00   goes through a really nice iphone app so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5340">TS</a>]

01:29:02   there's no you know command-line typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:05   or logging in through a stupid web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5345">TS</a>]

01:29:07   browser and a certain port or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:08   like that you just get on the euro app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:10   on your phone could not be easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:13   they're protected with state-of-the-art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:14   wpa2 encryption of course and I heroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:20   update automatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5360">TS</a>]

01:29:21   so if there's like a security update or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:22   performance update just updates by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:25   itself it's so great they have new feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:28   Dave new features like parental controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5368">TS</a>]

01:29:30   where you can create profiles for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:31   kids and you can manage what they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5371">TS</a>]

01:29:33   and when they have internet access to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5373">TS</a>]

01:29:37   just go check it out i cannot tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5377">TS</a>]

01:29:39   everything there is to know about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:40   in the course of one little sponsorship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:42   read just note that they more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:45   recommend one euro for every thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:47   square feet of your home they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:48   more information on the website where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:50   you can figure out how many you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5390">TS</a>]

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01:29:58   to just put it back in the box send it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5398">TS</a>]

01:30:00   back to them no questions asked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5400">TS</a>]

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01:30:03   here's what you do to find out more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5403">TS</a>]

01:30:05   you've got to remember this promo code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5405">TS</a>]

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01:30:17   code the talkshow get you overnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:19   shipping so depending on the time of day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5419">TS</a>]

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01:30:27   hero.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5427">TS</a>]

01:30:28   so I say coincidental because one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:32   products google announced at their event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:35   was called google Wi-Fi which is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:38   that works a lot like sounds like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:40   works a lot like 0 where you can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:41   more than one of these things you spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5441">TS</a>]

01:30:44   them around the house and it gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:46   y5 and it does all the negotiation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:48   you right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:52   and as I watched that part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:54   presentation I've been thinking ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:56   since 0 sponsored the show but watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5456">TS</a>]

01:30:58   google say it is i began thinking you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:01   know it has been i don't remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:02   last time Apple has said a damn word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:04   about airport and airport is seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:08   it's like outdated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5468">TS</a>]

01:31:10   yeah exactly i mean i-i i did the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5470">TS</a>]

01:31:14   thing i bought a pack of Eros and 400 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5474">TS</a>]

01:31:17   it singular has what's the plural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:19   I don't know i'm going to call them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:19   heroes hang out here oh ok like back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:24   awhile 0 a murder of Eros and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:28   installed them and I like him a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:31   I mean if they generally cover well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:33   cover areas of my house where I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:35   have coverage before even like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:37   configured a handful of other extenders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:40   like you know an express attached to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:43   extreme and you know blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5503">TS</a>]

01:31:45   right and none of those seem to work as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5505">TS</a>]

01:31:48   well as the euro so you can just extend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:50   your arrow spot i guess it's comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:52   its cover sation like i like it i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:54   the concept a lot and yeah apple hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:56   done a whole lot with that and it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:58   seem like a very apple-like concept so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5518">TS</a>]

01:32:00   just unplug it plug this in and use an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:03   iphone app and you're done right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:05   like that's like I could see an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:07   version of that where you take it out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:09   the box and you plug it in and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:11   iphone sees it over Bluetooth you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:13   Ellie and says like oh hey do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:15   to set up your Wi-Fi now and you hit yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:17   like the air pod connect thing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:19   when you flip flip over the airport case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:21   it pops up with a little white card and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:22   I could totally see like it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:24   citizens to have an apple system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5544">TS</a>]

01:32:26   works just like that but if they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:28   and it's still very complex and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:31   airport that utility is not user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:34   friendly and doesn't work at the time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5554">TS</a>]

01:32:36   it was so much better than what it used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:38   to be before you know if you are using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:41   like it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:42   or you know netgear something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:44   but it by today's standards and compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:47   to let you know i r+ perfect example you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:49   just open the case and you're not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:50   it's like you're not picking like which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:52   gigahertz bluetooth to use which one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5572">TS</a>]

01:32:55   the least noise you're not picking in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:57   our like the way that with airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5577">TS</a>]

01:32:58   you're still supposed to pick between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5578">TS</a>]

01:32:59   five gigahertz and 2.5 gigahertz and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:02   pick a channel and it you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:05   do it why do you have to do anything why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5585">TS</a>]

01:33:06   can't the software just figured out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:08   it seems like you know that certainly 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:09   and and and that's seems like that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:12   exact description for google Wi-Fi the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:16   thought i had though is that right after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5596">TS</a>]

01:33:18   Google Wi-Fi they announced the google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:20   what's a comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:21   the thing that you talked to him yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:24   google home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:25   I don't understand why those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:26   separate products or at least why can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:28   Google how I understand that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:29   wouldn't want to buy separate google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:31   homes to be the pods that extend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:33   Wi-Fi but it seems to me like there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:35   two teams that weren't talking to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:37   other that should have been talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:38   each other because maybe like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:40   you're one you know base station should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5620">TS</a>]

01:33:42   be the google home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5622">TS</a>]

01:33:44   yeah i think that two teams thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46   probably right but i also think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:48   they are they're aiming that as their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:51   have to be a product that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5631">TS</a>]

01:33:52   purchase that already have Wi-Fi routers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:55   and not really looking to buy new ones i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5635">TS</a>]

01:33:57   think that yeah I could conceivably see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5637">TS</a>]

01:33:59   the technology being built into it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5639">TS</a>]

01:34:01   the future where it's like oh if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5641">TS</a>]

01:34:03   a cool home guess what it'll act as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:04   google Wi-Fi add on to more and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5644">TS</a>]

01:34:07   be golden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:07   but i don't think that that was their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:09   MVP you know the other thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:11   occurred to me after I thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:12   that was my first impression is why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:14   showing me to white boxes that you plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5654">TS</a>]

01:34:16   in and you know right right there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5656">TS</a>]

01:34:19   other thought that occurred to me is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:22   not just in my house but it i think most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:24   people's houses she might want to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5664">TS</a>]

01:34:26   them in very different spots it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5666">TS</a>]

01:34:28   like the alexa type devices or the echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:31   type devices lot of people put them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5671">TS</a>]

01:34:34   the kitchen for obvious reasons they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:36   might put them emi- on my bar sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:39   like a good location and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:42   necessarily where your cable connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:45   is coming in where you could plug it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5685">TS</a>]

01:34:46   into you know by ethernet take just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:48   get the basic eat you know internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5688">TS</a>]

01:34:51   signal to begin with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5691">TS</a>]

01:34:52   which is probably in your living room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:54   mmm yeah so I could see that I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:59   makes some sense do you think apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5699">TS</a>]

01:35:01   going to have something along these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:02   lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5702">TS</a>]

01:35:03   yeah of course I wonder how they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5703">TS</a>]

01:35:06   gonna do it and I wonder how imminent it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:08   is because at this point at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:10   now the Indians later than next year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5710">TS</a>]

01:35:13   would be shocked right I'm making I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5713">TS</a>]

01:35:16   don't think it's this year right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5716">TS</a>]

01:35:18   I don't think it's this year either i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:20   think it maybe maybe like a march thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5720">TS</a>]

01:35:22   next year where there's already really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5722">TS</a>]

01:35:25   was going to be new ipads in march right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:27   yeah they make some sense i mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:30   gotta you know if you look so many the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5730">TS</a>]

01:35:33   max hasn't been updated in so many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:35   that I you know later this year is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:37   to be mac time later this month maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5737">TS</a>]

01:35:39   even but the that's all the rumors you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5739">TS</a>]

01:35:42   know but i don't see that it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:45   packed to put it in here and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5745">TS</a>]

01:35:47   see them setting it up in spring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5747">TS</a>]

01:35:51   then selling it into summer and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:54   becomes like the big Christmas item [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5754">TS</a>]

01:35:56   because it's like oh you have an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5756">TS</a>]

01:35:57   this works great with it or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5757">TS</a>]

01:35:59   whatever the case may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:00   yeah and you know they're obviously not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:02   going to be first echo is going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:04   credit for being first apples often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:07   first you know it's you know did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5767">TS</a>]

01:36:10   know depending on how your perception of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:13   what a smartphone is they were either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5773">TS</a>]

01:36:15   very late to smartphones or if they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5775">TS</a>]

01:36:18   the first one to come out with the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:19   real smartphone right and maybe like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5779">TS</a>]

01:36:22   that so yet it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5782">TS</a>]

01:36:24   yeah I'm sorry guys well I just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:26   that you know the it looks weird though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:30   now that they're behind more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:32   company in this regard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5792">TS</a>]

01:36:34   yeah well I can't say that I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:38   and I think you you can see if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:40   the same experience and maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5800">TS</a>]

01:36:41   different one than me but i'll tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5801">TS</a>]

01:36:43   see reworks a hell of a lot better when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5803">TS</a>]

01:36:44   it can hear you and the iphone is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5804">TS</a>]

01:36:48   good listening device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:51   at all like really bad unless it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:54   really quiet which is why people there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5814">TS</a>]

01:36:56   all these jokes about Cirie not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5816">TS</a>]

01:36:58   understanding your Baba but like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5818">TS</a>]

01:37:00   know Apple built their own voice team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:02   because they weren't really happy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:03   the way the voice was being interpreted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5823">TS</a>]

01:37:05   by this nuance which is what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5825">TS</a>]

01:37:08   using the filter 19 they made their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:10   software and when you couple that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:13   four microphones like with the air pods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5833">TS</a>]

01:37:16   and you have two sets of being forming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5836">TS</a>]

01:37:18   you don't be lightly beamforming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5838">TS</a>]

01:37:20   microphones combined with a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5840">TS</a>]

01:37:23   of you know bone conduction a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5843">TS</a>]

01:37:26   of accelerometer to say oh you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5846">TS</a>]

01:37:27   moving you know it's vibrating you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5847">TS</a>]

01:37:29   talking like these signals that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5849">TS</a>]

01:37:31   picking up and saying hey you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5851">TS</a>]

01:37:33   to community let's go right let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5853">TS</a>]

01:37:35   listen carefully and let me filter out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5855">TS</a>]

01:37:37   the other noise and cancel all that out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5857">TS</a>]

01:37:39   it is really reliable I mean like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5859">TS</a>]

01:37:41   Serie commands that I give them my ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5861">TS</a>]

01:37:43   pods are incredibly rarely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5863">TS</a>]

01:37:45   misinterpreted you know what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:47   after that is a whole nother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5867">TS</a>]

01:37:48   conversation right but the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:50   picking up of the voice is very good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:53   that's the echoes secret sauce and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5873">TS</a>]

01:37:55   has seven microphones in it it's being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5875">TS</a>]

01:37:58   beam forms those the audio coming in to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:01   isolate that audio from other audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5881">TS</a>]

01:38:03   which is why i can understand my kid you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:05   know and why you can understand me from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:07   over facing away from it all took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:10   towards the stove away from it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5890">TS</a>]

01:38:12   you know kitchen 15 feet away and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:15   it still picks it up just fine and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:17   my timer you know so i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5897">TS</a>]

01:38:18   there's like some technological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5898">TS</a>]

01:38:19   advancements there that will make Siri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:22   you know kind of react and be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5902">TS</a>]

01:38:25   responsive that I think people aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5905">TS</a>]

01:38:27   you know picking up on quite yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5907">TS</a>]

01:38:29   will once it launches but i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5909">TS</a>]

01:38:31   that's got to be like you if you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5911">TS</a>]

01:38:34   echo if you ask Alexa or the echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:37   something and she doesn't get it or she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5917">TS</a>]

01:38:39   doesn't hear you you feel like a dope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5919">TS</a>]

01:38:41   right like you feel like a real idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5921">TS</a>]

01:38:43   like talking to nothing when nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5923">TS</a>]

01:38:45   responds like the adoption of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5925">TS</a>]

01:38:48   things is really going to depend on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5928">TS</a>]

01:38:50   man answering you because the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:51   that sort of a suspension of disbelief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5931">TS</a>]

01:38:57   you know that you've gotta a person on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5937">TS</a>]

01:39:00   the other end of that artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5940">TS</a>]

01:39:02   intelligence that wants to talk to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5942">TS</a>]

01:39:04   is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5944">TS</a>]

01:39:04   broken it makes you feel dumb and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5944">TS</a>]

01:39:08   don't like to feel that way so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5948">TS</a>]

01:39:09   that once you have hardware that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:11   really with concrete surety pick you up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:15   listen to you and at least give you some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5955">TS</a>]

01:39:17   response even say oh I can't help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:19   you know I think it's definitely gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:21   be interesting and I think the Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:23   some stuff to offer their that isn't yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5963">TS</a>]

01:39:25   public you know I i think that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5965">TS</a>]

01:39:27   components of Syria that people have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:29   seen because Apple has chosen not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5969">TS</a>]

01:39:31   expose them that will be very surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:34   when they are actually you don't rolled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:38   out or made available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:41   well that sounds to me like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:42   something i'm nothing done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5982">TS</a>]

01:39:46   I have to say I it's funny because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:49   could talk to you because you and I both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:50   have these quote-unquote pre-production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5990">TS</a>]

01:39:53   air pods so we can compare and everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:55   else is still left to speculate on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5995">TS</a>]

01:39:57   the experience is like the longer i go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5997">TS</a>]

01:39:58   with them the more i love them and i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/5998">TS</a>]

01:40:02   miss having playback controls on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6002">TS</a>]

01:40:05   thing that I can like triple click to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:07   like fast-forward 30 seconds or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6007">TS</a>]

01:40:09   something like that but not too much and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6009">TS</a>]

01:40:13   you can use Siri to say next track and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6013">TS</a>]

01:40:18   it works really well and there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6018">TS</a>]

01:40:19   delay it takes a little bit longer than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6019">TS</a>]

01:40:22   clicking a button but not so much that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6022">TS</a>]

01:40:25   mind it the one thing i miss on the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:27   pods compared to the my either any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6027">TS</a>]

01:40:32   previous headphones I've had that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6032">TS</a>]

01:40:33   had some kind of controls on the wires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6033">TS</a>]

01:40:35   is the volume control because you try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6035">TS</a>]

01:40:38   you have to use your phone to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6038">TS</a>]

01:40:40   volume or your watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:43   you can't even use Siri like I tried it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6043">TS</a>]

01:40:45   you DoubleTap and said Cirie turn it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6045">TS</a>]

01:40:47   two clicks and she says I can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6047">TS</a>]

01:40:49   for you if you haven't if you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6049">TS</a>]

01:40:52   apple watch where you have your Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6052">TS</a>]

01:40:54   watch on its again I always do when I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6054">TS</a>]

01:40:56   running you start to get used to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6056">TS</a>]

01:40:58   and it's like that's where you go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6058">TS</a>]

01:41:00   but even there it's like if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:02   listening to overcast it's like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6062">TS</a>]

01:41:04   first term my watch up I've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6064">TS</a>]

01:41:07   workout app is going and I've gotta tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6067">TS</a>]

01:41:09   a couple times and I've got to tap the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6069">TS</a>]

01:41:10   side button to get to the playback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6070">TS</a>]

01:41:12   controls so you just can't just go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6072">TS</a>]

01:41:14   the watch and tap tap to make it louder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6074">TS</a>]

01:41:17   because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6077">TS</a>]

01:41:18   you know I'm gonna noisy part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6078">TS</a>]

01:41:20   city and there's more traffic but other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6080">TS</a>]

01:41:22   than the volume control i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6082">TS</a>]

01:41:24   airport's better than my any previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:27   headphones that I've used with my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6087">TS</a>]

01:41:29   in every single record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6089">TS</a>]

01:41:31   yeah it's great i mean obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6091">TS</a>]

01:41:33   number one question is always does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:35   fall out the answer is no and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6095">TS</a>]

01:41:36   refuse to believe you because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6096">TS</a>]

01:41:38   just nothing to pull them out right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6098">TS</a>]

01:41:40   there is no mass there's no cord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:41   attached you know they they have little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:44   very little mask themselves and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6104">TS</a>]

01:41:46   when i get sweaty and I wouldn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6106">TS</a>]

01:41:47   doing running on the treadmill or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6107">TS</a>]

01:41:49   whatever it doesn't you know it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:51   they say i wouldn't recommend them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6111">TS</a>]

01:41:53   work out here but that's why they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6113">TS</a>]

01:41:54   the beats right but they are pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6114">TS</a>]

01:41:56   and so I know something i have a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6116">TS</a>]

01:41:58   who's like in love with the earpods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6118">TS</a>]

01:42:00   raised like before the earpods no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6120">TS</a>]

01:42:03   headphones fit my ears right and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6123">TS</a>]

01:42:05   know maybe he's weird and maybe we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6125">TS</a>]

01:42:07   all not weird or whatever but he loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:09   them so he's like super super stoked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6129">TS</a>]

01:42:12   get the the air pods because he loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6132">TS</a>]

01:42:15   the shape but I i have people talk to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6135">TS</a>]

01:42:18   on the exact opposite spectrum where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6138">TS</a>]

01:42:19   they just don't fit their ears at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:22   you know they earpods the regular your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6142">TS</a>]

01:42:24   pants and I'm like I tell him flat out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:26   looked at if those don't fit your ears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:28   you know these are not gonna fit either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:31   you know so don't go there it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6151">TS</a>]

01:42:34   worth it right over the spending the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6154">TS</a>]

01:42:36   money or try mon or whatever here try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6156">TS</a>]

01:42:38   these on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6158">TS</a>]

01:42:39   but other than that fit question like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:41   most people just are really excited and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6161">TS</a>]

01:42:44   I honestly have not a whole lot of bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6164">TS</a>]

01:42:46   things to say they're loud they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6166">TS</a>]

01:42:48   crispy like they sound good i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6168">TS</a>]

01:42:50   personally the moment the sound quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:52   is a little bit better than you know any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6172">TS</a>]

01:42:55   other pod and yeah i agree with you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6175">TS</a>]

01:42:58   volume and forward and back track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6178">TS</a>]

01:43:00   controls my biggest peeve and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6180">TS</a>]

01:43:03   could find a way to do that with touch i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6183">TS</a>]

01:43:04   would be that would be set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6184">TS</a>]

01:43:06   yeah like if they could do is keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6186">TS</a>]

01:43:08   double click for Cirie and maybe let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6188">TS</a>]

01:43:11   that you assigned triple and quadruple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6191">TS</a>]

01:43:13   tap I don't think like a single tap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6193">TS</a>]

01:43:16   hold maybe if they can detect a hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6196">TS</a>]

01:43:18   I don't know you know like if they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6198">TS</a>]

01:43:21   detect oh you didn't release your finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6201">TS</a>]

01:43:22   from it seems like they could but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6202">TS</a>]

01:43:24   is the accelerometer but it's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6204">TS</a>]

01:43:26   loss for me only con for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6206">TS</a>]

01:43:28   and in and your mileage is going to vary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6208">TS</a>]

01:43:30   outfit i don't know what to tell you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6210">TS</a>]

01:43:32   if you know i'm with you if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6212">TS</a>]

01:43:34   either can abide by the wired your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6214">TS</a>]

01:43:38   bought earpods from apple or you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6218">TS</a>]

01:43:40   like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6220">TS</a>]

01:43:41   you're going to love the air pops whoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6221">TS</a>]

01:43:44   and it's like I'm like the idea i'm at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6224">TS</a>]

01:43:48   the point already where the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6228">TS</a>]

01:43:49   having a wire connecting my headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6229">TS</a>]

01:43:51   to my phone it seems preposterous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:53   oh my god it feels so annoying it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6233">TS</a>]

01:43:56   annoying it's something like so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6236">TS</a>]

01:43:59   the bluetooth have a bluetooth setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6239">TS</a>]

01:44:01   beats the over ears that annoys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6241">TS</a>]

01:44:04   cancellation that I've used for airplane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6244">TS</a>]

01:44:06   flights and then i have the bose like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6246">TS</a>]

01:44:08   the you know quite see 25-year the qc25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6248">TS</a>]

01:44:12   whatever they are right the quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6252">TS</a>]

01:44:14   comfort inn which are nice and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6254">TS</a>]

01:44:16   have a set of wireless jaybird x2's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6256">TS</a>]

01:44:19   which technically still have a wire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6259">TS</a>]

01:44:21   between them but the workout one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6261">TS</a>]

01:44:23   coming to the beach configuration you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6263">TS</a>]

01:44:25   know the workout yes but the Jaybirds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6265">TS</a>]

01:44:26   are great they're like a really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6266">TS</a>]

01:44:28   set of work out your wireless earbuds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6268">TS</a>]

01:44:30   but the way that these work i mean even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6270">TS</a>]

01:44:33   though other ones the other stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6273">TS</a>]

01:44:34   goes in your ear i have never been true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:37   you know hugely fun i have a pair of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6277">TS</a>]

01:44:39   those here's I don't know if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6279">TS</a>]

01:44:41   familiar with every startup called here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6281">TS</a>]

01:44:43   and space are a I think just here like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6283">TS</a>]

01:44:47   hea are ok um and they're the startup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6287">TS</a>]

01:44:51   it's not a headphone it's a microphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:54   that takes the audio coming in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6294">TS</a>]

01:44:58   filters it for you so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6298">TS</a>]

01:45:00   augmented ears like cyborgs ears so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6300">TS</a>]

01:45:04   plug them in they have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6304">TS</a>]

01:45:06   microphone on the outside and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6306">TS</a>]

01:45:07   grabbed the sound and process it and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6307">TS</a>]

01:45:11   it into your ears so like let's say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6311">TS</a>]

01:45:13   go to a concert and you want to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6313">TS</a>]

01:45:14   down the volume you put your here's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6314">TS</a>]

01:45:16   and you just grab your iphone and go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6316">TS</a>]

01:45:19   do and it turns on the exterior volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6319">TS</a>]

01:45:21   it's pretty while thats crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6321">TS</a>]

01:45:24   no no I love them and it's like you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6324">TS</a>]

01:45:26   you're at a place where like you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6326">TS</a>]

01:45:28   got i went to see Hamilton right I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6328">TS</a>]

01:45:30   stuck up on that rafters like everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6330">TS</a>]

01:45:32   but I just got really lucky and got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6332">TS</a>]

01:45:34   affordable ticket before it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6334">TS</a>]

01:45:35   exploded but you could you put those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6335">TS</a>]

01:45:37   things in and you can just you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:39   filter out the people around you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6339">TS</a>]

01:45:41   as they're talking quieter and just pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6341">TS</a>]

01:45:43   up the louder noises which is the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6343">TS</a>]

01:45:45   you know speaking from the stage and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6345">TS</a>]

01:45:47   feels like the right in front of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6347">TS</a>]

01:45:48   it's actually pretty crazy cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6348">TS</a>]

01:45:50   technology but those are the the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6350">TS</a>]

01:45:52   that I've had the most experience with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6352">TS</a>]

01:45:54   just sitting in the ear and i can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6354">TS</a>]

01:45:56   you they feel like you feel them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6356">TS</a>]

01:45:57   there there you know and maybe they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6357">TS</a>]

01:45:59   get lighter and better over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6359">TS</a>]

01:46:00   this is just a start-up but the air pods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6360">TS</a>]

01:46:03   are totally different bag because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6363">TS</a>]

01:46:04   they're so light there so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6364">TS</a>]

01:46:07   they're not even there you really forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6367">TS</a>]

01:46:08   you're wearing them and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6368">TS</a>]

01:46:10   throwing those in picking out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6370">TS</a>]

01:46:12   case and throwing them in is just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6372">TS</a>]

01:46:14   amount of freedom there is is insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:16   it's really nice and the battery life is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6376">TS</a>]

01:46:18   for me has been amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6378">TS</a>]

01:46:20   I almost never remember to charge the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6380">TS</a>]

01:46:22   damn thing and the case was still at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:24   twenty-eight percent and the headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6384">TS</a>]

01:46:26   for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6386">TS</a>]

01:46:27   hundred percent so anyway can't wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6387">TS</a>]

01:46:29   everybody else to get him but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6389">TS</a>]

01:46:31   the longer i use them more bigger fan I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6391">TS</a>]

01:46:33   am before we wrap up anything else you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6393">TS</a>]

01:46:36   want to talk about you want to join a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6396">TS</a>]

01:46:37   quick drop your guess as to who's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6397">TS</a>]

01:46:40   buy Twitter and disney yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6400">TS</a>]

01:46:43   there's this is equal so we reported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6403">TS</a>]

01:46:46   that disney was looking right so we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6406">TS</a>]

01:46:48   asked around and we heard yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6408">TS</a>]

01:46:50   disney is looking at it has been looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6410">TS</a>]

01:46:51   for a while we were we were pretty close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6411">TS</a>]

01:46:54   on doing it and then I think worker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6414">TS</a>]

01:46:56   somebody scripts but that's fine you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6416">TS</a>]

01:46:57   know stuff happens but anyway we heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6417">TS</a>]

01:47:00   it the disney side of thing is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6420">TS</a>]

01:47:03   there's a lot of pluses and negatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6423">TS</a>]

01:47:05   and it's just like worlds collide for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6425">TS</a>]

01:47:07   right because i'm a huge fan of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6427">TS</a>]

01:47:09   company know what they've done in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6429">TS</a>]

01:47:11   historical methodology these days I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6431">TS</a>]

01:47:14   can't be a fan because I'm we report on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6434">TS</a>]

01:47:16   various aspects of the company so more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:18   just like it you know fascinated with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6438">TS</a>]

01:47:20   right um but I am fasting with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6440">TS</a>]

01:47:23   aspects of that company from you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6443">TS</a>]

01:47:25   they're the movies to the to the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6445">TS</a>]

01:47:28   business to the parks and and on so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6448">TS</a>]

01:47:31   and so forth right but i think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6451">TS</a>]

01:47:34   there are some real easy alignments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6454">TS</a>]

01:47:38   there's some real hard cliffs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6458">TS</a>]

01:47:41   yes to that happening and I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:44   know which one would win out you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6464">TS</a>]

01:47:45   the biggest the biggest one which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6465">TS</a>]

01:47:47   mentioned in our story about it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6467">TS</a>]

01:47:51   twitter is supposed to be agnostic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6471">TS</a>]

01:47:54   when it comes to media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6474">TS</a>]

01:47:55   companies right aside from special deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6475">TS</a>]

01:47:57   like they come within a foul or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6477">TS</a>]

01:47:59   to broadcast stuff but they're supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6479">TS</a>]

01:48:00   to be like oh hey we did this with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6480">TS</a>]

01:48:02   NFL we can do with you too but disney's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6482">TS</a>]

01:48:04   a huge media company so if they buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6484">TS</a>]

01:48:06   Twitter are they isolating it from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6486">TS</a>]

01:48:10   rest of the media landscape and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6490">TS</a>]

01:48:12   probably the biggest like and check into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6492">TS</a>]

01:48:15   my column [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6495">TS</a>]

01:48:16   I've been saying for years that one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6496">TS</a>]

01:48:18   the most amazing things about Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6498">TS</a>]

01:48:19   that I think people overlook is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6499">TS</a>]

01:48:21   ubiquitous the ids are for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6501">TS</a>]

01:48:25   are famous like if you watch sports or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6505">TS</a>]

01:48:28   you watch news and i watch both sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6508">TS</a>]

01:48:30   and special election year i watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6510">TS</a>]

01:48:32   news when people come on to commentate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6512">TS</a>]

01:48:34   on you know who won the debate or who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6514">TS</a>]

01:48:36   what do you think about buck showalter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6516">TS</a>]

01:48:37   not putting Zach Britton the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6517">TS</a>]

01:48:41   yeah they tell you the twitter name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:43   everybody who's on TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6523">TS</a>]

01:48:44   they'll say you know here's Jimmy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6524">TS</a>]

01:48:46   Rollins for piano former shortstop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6526">TS</a>]

01:48:48   here's his twitter name everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:50   twitter name is up there does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6530">TS</a>]

01:48:51   happen does does TNT sports put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:55   twitter handles up for these people when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6535">TS</a>]

01:48:57   twitter is owned by the company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6537">TS</a>]

01:48:58   also owns ESPN yeah right exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6538">TS</a>]

01:49:01   exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6541">TS</a>]

01:49:03   I you know and that's a lot of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6543">TS</a>]

01:49:04   that's a lot of the value in Twitter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6544">TS</a>]

01:49:06   me i don't know quite how you connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6546">TS</a>]

01:49:08   that you be qu d and this sort of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6548">TS</a>]

01:49:11   is the default you know Facebook would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6551">TS</a>]

01:49:13   love to have that but they don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6553">TS</a>]

01:49:14   the twitter at names is a huge thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6554">TS</a>]

01:49:17   it's a way to say hey if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6557">TS</a>]

01:49:19   connect to this person online you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6559">TS</a>]

01:49:21   on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6561">TS</a>]

01:49:22   yeah that's a huge part of the value I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6562">TS</a>]

01:49:24   don't know how you quite connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6564">TS</a>]

01:49:25   making money but it certainly is part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6565">TS</a>]

01:49:27   the value because to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:29   fundamentally the thing that's valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6569">TS</a>]

01:49:31   is attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6571">TS</a>]

01:49:32   I you know I've this is the central John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6572">TS</a>]

01:49:35   Gruber central theory of the media is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6575">TS</a>]

01:49:38   that attention attention more than money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6578">TS</a>]

01:49:40   is that is the foundation currency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6580">TS</a>]

01:49:42   because it's the one thing that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6582">TS</a>]

01:49:44   a limit to each person x the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6584">TS</a>]

01:49:47   hours a day that they're awake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6587">TS</a>]

01:49:49   that's the total amount of attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6589">TS</a>]

01:49:50   that's possible twitter has a lot of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6590">TS</a>]

01:49:53   and yeah I don't hate connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:57   monetization but it's got to be possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6597">TS</a>]

01:49:59   and i could see Disney doing it but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6599">TS</a>]

01:50:02   I i have the same fear as you where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6602">TS</a>]

01:50:04   feel like they could they could kill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6604">TS</a>]

01:50:06   Golden Goose because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6606">TS</a>]

01:50:08   just by buying it it takes away the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6608">TS</a>]

01:50:11   ubiquity of the president's that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6611">TS</a>]

01:50:13   have yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6613">TS</a>]

01:50:16   the funny thing is that Twitter shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6616">TS</a>]

01:50:18   himself in the foot from almost day 1 by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6618">TS</a>]

01:50:20   obeying the industry's metrics yeah I by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6620">TS</a>]

01:50:25   treating the Mau as the god of all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6625">TS</a>]

01:50:29   product decisions and and data and if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:32   had realized or recognized or embraced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6632">TS</a>]

01:50:35   early on its nature as a place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6635">TS</a>]

01:50:40   people to have a strong identity and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6640">TS</a>]

01:50:43   contribute to a conversation but also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6643">TS</a>]

01:50:47   place that welcomes passive viewership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6647">TS</a>]

01:50:50   in its doing that now are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6650">TS</a>]

01:50:53   reposition itself as that now but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6653">TS</a>]

01:50:56   hard to do that right you can't you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6656">TS</a>]

01:50:58   gonna sell an advertiser on the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6658">TS</a>]

01:51:00   that okay we only have three more 280 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6660">TS</a>]

01:51:02   million users or whatever but those turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6662">TS</a>]

01:51:05   80 million users are creating you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6665">TS</a>]

01:51:08   billion users worth of content right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6668">TS</a>]

01:51:11   then that it's hard to like sell that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6671">TS</a>]

01:51:14   a package if you have it that hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6674">TS</a>]

01:51:16   been your your premise from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6676">TS</a>]

01:51:17   beginning and that's it's rough we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6677">TS</a>]

01:51:20   you you're you're treating these logged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6680">TS</a>]

01:51:22   out users trying to now say hey these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6682">TS</a>]

01:51:25   are valued like the viewer on ESPN is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6685">TS</a>]

01:51:29   seeing the tweet like that still value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6689">TS</a>]

01:51:32   right it's still attention and still all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6692">TS</a>]

01:51:35   that stuff but yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6695">TS</a>]

01:51:36   monetization is a huge problem there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6696">TS</a>]

01:51:38   because it's like how do you connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6698">TS</a>]

01:51:39   those disparate entities beyond ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6699">TS</a>]

01:51:42   tracking and and that sort of thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6702">TS</a>]

01:51:45   hedge I've always felt strongly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6705">TS</a>]

01:51:47   that Twitter's biggest place should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6707">TS</a>]

01:51:49   been around identity you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6709">TS</a>]

01:51:51   like Woody your identity online used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6711">TS</a>]

01:51:54   be if you were a quote on quote online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6714">TS</a>]

01:51:57   person you used to be your URL right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6717">TS</a>]

01:52:00   like if you are early early to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6720">TS</a>]

01:52:03   internet you had an email address in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6723">TS</a>]

01:52:05   URL or you know one or the other or both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6725">TS</a>]

01:52:08   and today almost nobody has a URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6728">TS</a>]

01:52:11   because creating websites is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6731">TS</a>]

01:52:13   like too much effort right is too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6733">TS</a>]

01:52:16   anxiety to maintain and expensive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6736">TS</a>]

01:52:20   everything else instead there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6740">TS</a>]

01:52:21   sir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6741">TS</a>]

01:52:21   services that covers so many millions or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6741">TS</a>]

01:52:23   billions of people that you can create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6743">TS</a>]

01:52:25   an identity by simply signing up for one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:28   like Twitter and saying this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6748">TS</a>]

01:52:29   identity and there are people like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6749">TS</a>]

01:52:31   on facebook but there it's much rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6751">TS</a>]

01:52:34   then on Twitter like if you google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6754">TS</a>]

01:52:37   almost anybody's name that has any sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6757">TS</a>]

01:52:39   of basic activity on Twitter their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6759">TS</a>]

01:52:41   twitter handle is going to give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6761">TS</a>]

01:52:43   everything you need to know about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6763">TS</a>]

01:52:44   probably you know in in bed at a glance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6764">TS</a>]

01:52:47   like where they were when they do with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6767">TS</a>]

01:52:50   treatable day when they talk about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6770">TS</a>]

01:52:51   interests you know what are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6771">TS</a>]

01:52:54   interested in what they don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6774">TS</a>]

01:52:56   you could go one level deeper look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6776">TS</a>]

01:52:57   their favs to see kind of what their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6777">TS</a>]

01:53:00   tastes are in humor or and you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6780">TS</a>]

01:53:03   news or you know whatever right or who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6783">TS</a>]

01:53:05   they followed cetera but no other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6785">TS</a>]

01:53:07   network on the planet offers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6787">TS</a>]

01:53:09   Facebook doesn't offer that because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6789">TS</a>]

01:53:11   was based its core base was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6791">TS</a>]

01:53:15   networks of people already know each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6795">TS</a>]

01:53:16   other and Twitter's like networks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6796">TS</a>]

01:53:18   people that you're strangers you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6798">TS</a>]

01:53:20   that don't know each other until you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6800">TS</a>]

01:53:22   until you look at their profile and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6802">TS</a>]

01:53:24   the sudden you get a at least a basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6804">TS</a>]

01:53:25   picture of who they are and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6805">TS</a>]

01:53:27   play I think is very interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6807">TS</a>]

01:53:29   that's something that Disney i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6809">TS</a>]

01:53:31   actually has a better ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6811">TS</a>]

01:53:33   understand than a lot of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6813">TS</a>]

01:53:35   buyers who might want to treat it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6815">TS</a>]

01:53:37   of like a marketing channel you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6817">TS</a>]

01:53:39   or attack that angle of which i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6819">TS</a>]

01:53:42   think is a strong for Twitter's teacher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6822">TS</a>]

01:53:44   and I'm not as bullish about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6824">TS</a>]

01:53:45   yeah i agree i I don't quite see the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6825">TS</a>]

01:53:49   the dots that connect from here to there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6829">TS</a>]

01:53:51   where we're twitter is a thriving Disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6831">TS</a>]

01:53:54   property but I i buy into it my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6834">TS</a>]

01:53:57   intuition says that there is a path i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6837">TS</a>]

01:54:00   don't know i can't describe it in detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6840">TS</a>]

01:54:02   but my intuition says that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6842">TS</a>]

01:54:04   path there and that you know may make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6844">TS</a>]

01:54:06   you know obviously they could screw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6846">TS</a>]

01:54:07   up and it a hundred different ways but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6847">TS</a>]

01:54:09   that there's potential there that i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6849">TS</a>]

01:54:12   more optimistic than just about anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6852">TS</a>]

01:54:13   else who's about disney owning Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6853">TS</a>]

01:54:15   than just about anybody else has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6855">TS</a>]

01:54:16   named and I almost feel like it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6856">TS</a>]

01:54:20   better than Twitter remaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6860">TS</a>]

01:54:21   independent at this point because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6861">TS</a>]

01:54:23   seems like twitter is I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6863">TS</a>]

01:54:24   that's an option to be honest now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6864">TS</a>]

01:54:26   really don't at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6866">TS</a>]

01:54:28   and you know we'll see i think but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6868">TS</a>]

01:54:32   smells like it's gonna happen soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6872">TS</a>]

01:54:34   it just seems like boy there's and I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6874">TS</a>]

01:54:36   reports every couple days about progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6876">TS</a>]

01:54:38   being made on this and action on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6878">TS</a>]

01:54:40   Twitter's board part on a part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6880">TS</a>]

01:54:42   Twitter's board to start you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6882">TS</a>]

01:54:43   listening two bids and doing the math [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6883">TS</a>]

01:54:46   and stuff like that right i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6886">TS</a>]

01:54:48   what you end up with is you have you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6888">TS</a>]

01:54:51   the monetary and the math side of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6891">TS</a>]

01:54:53   then you have the the how does it fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6893">TS</a>]

01:54:58   like this it's a distraction right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6898">TS</a>]

01:55:00   because when your company's biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6900">TS</a>]

01:55:02   disney and you have a big pot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6902">TS</a>]

01:55:03   to play with or debt you know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6903">TS</a>]

01:55:06   can borrow on 22 kind of by what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6906">TS</a>]

01:55:09   want and make your own choose your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6909">TS</a>]

01:55:12   destiny it a at some point becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6912">TS</a>]

01:55:14   question of is this additive or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6914">TS</a>]

01:55:17   subtractive like is it a distraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6917">TS</a>]

01:55:19   which sure we could buy it we can afford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6919">TS</a>]

01:55:20   it it makes some sense as a holistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6920">TS</a>]

01:55:22   business and we see how we can maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6922">TS</a>]

01:55:24   make a little bit better better business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6924">TS</a>]

01:55:26   of it but is it a distraction and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6926">TS</a>]

01:55:29   the like one of the things that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6929">TS</a>]

01:55:31   to look at in historically with Disney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6931">TS</a>]

01:55:33   is their purchase of the channel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6933">TS</a>]

01:55:36   will become ABC family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6936">TS</a>]

01:55:37   mm which was a disaster like it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6937">TS</a>]

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01:55:47   that six times it was reprogrammed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6947">TS</a>]

01:55:50   try and be like oh this is working in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6950">TS</a>]

01:55:52   that girl's we're gonna email that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6952">TS</a>]

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01:55:55   25 to 35 or do you know all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6955">TS</a>]

01:55:57   reprogramming and stuff is just a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6957">TS</a>]

01:55:59   boon doggle the try to get that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6959">TS</a>]

01:56:00   successful and they they just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6960">TS</a>]

01:56:03   went wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6963">TS</a>]

01:56:05   like from the very beginning and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6965">TS</a>]

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01:56:09   probably created at wholesale you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6969">TS</a>]

01:56:11   it's just a cable channel and it costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6971">TS</a>]

01:56:13   so much angst and firings and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6973">TS</a>]

01:56:17   attention subtracted from the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6977">TS</a>]

01:56:20   the business and that I think is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6980">TS</a>]

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01:56:23   they look at something like Twitter it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6983">TS</a>]

01:56:24   like yeah it's cool it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6984">TS</a>]

01:56:26   it's a property that has a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6986">TS</a>]

01:56:28   extremely unique amongst all other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6988">TS</a>]

01:56:31   internet property's value but is it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6991">TS</a>]

01:56:35   distraction for us and if the answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/6995">TS</a>]

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01:56:46   their properties start getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/7006">TS</a>]

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01:56:58   goes back in 2011 from it a book about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/7018">TS</a>]

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01:57:12   attended the first disney board meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/7032">TS</a>]

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01:57:20   apple CEO steve jobs in a hallway seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/7040">TS</a>]

01:57:22   like a good time to introduce himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/7042">TS</a>]

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01:57:30   and said nothing other than your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/7050">TS</a>]

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01:57:33   heard turned and walked away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwKGt8g/7053">TS</a>]

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