00:00:00 ◼ ► you know I can't believe i missed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/0">TS</a>]
00:00:01 ◼ ► holiday party again is a different kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► of anything interesting happen in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► yeah you know not much apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/14">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► really do much in the fall you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/17">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► despite do i was talking about what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► other day about we're on a walk and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/35">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► said you know I feel like it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/37">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► going nonstop for a long time and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/39">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► realized it totally had been going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/41">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► nonstop for a long time we went to win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/42">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► to Ireland for all and I realized like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/45">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► literally I went to the apple event in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/48">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► the next drag on a plane and went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/50">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► this event in Southern California this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/52">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► festival over the weekend and then from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► there I went basically straight to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/56">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► and in the middle there like I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/57">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► one review unit of the of the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/60">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► pro and then like the day after I came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/62">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► back from Ireland I got the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/64">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► review unit with the macbook pro and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► just it like it is non-stop like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/70">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► thing after another all fault you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/72">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► what I mean it's you know but it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/74">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► know tough life for us you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► but you know it's amazing new computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/80">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► before anybody gets them while getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/82">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► around the globe to meet interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/84">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► yeah i mean i'm not i'm not complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/90">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► it is it is a privilege to do this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/92">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► telling people that I season this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► this when everything is happening for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/98">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► for Apple it's like this this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/99">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► period in like WWDC or the craziest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► times of the year i think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► crazier honestly for us i have because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► just step that I don't know somehow to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/108">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► me even that several weeks long period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/111">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► between the iphone 7 coming out and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/115">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► macbook man I don't know that somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/118">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► seemed jam-packed with stuff to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/121">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► rules in Apple watch this you know two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/124">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► roles in there and yeah I mean there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/127">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► lot going on a lot lot of stuff going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► anyway long story short just wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► good time for an election that i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/135">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► like hundred and ten percent obsessive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/137">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► interest in to know what ya do stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/140">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► like stuff going on it was a it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/144">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► busy fall I do feel like we've reached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/147">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► you know it's all subsided a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/148">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► now and I I feel like that mentally I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► starting to shift gears I still got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► stuff that I put off that I need to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/155">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► back up again but it's like mental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/157">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► shifting gears into you know holidays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► end-of-year people you know if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/160">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► to make a holiday stories and gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/163">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► guides and best of yes and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/165">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► that it's starting to feel more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/168">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► that at last night which is good guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► like Thanksgiving six next week's oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/172">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► I thought it was a little bit back book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► pro review I I got all I got three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/178">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► them i got i got the the button one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► where they call it work on the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► I guess we are making to capture any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► album but you know whatever i know i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► that the same time you did we got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► yeah they had those I i got the 13-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/194">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► with touch bar I don't have a week later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► about at least a week later I don't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► sounds right days what was a week I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► in Ireland because I which is the week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► after the event because i got an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/206">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► from apple on like a wednesday in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► Ireland saying can you come by cupertino [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/209">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► on thursday to pick up your your 13-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► macbook with touch bar and I was like uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/212">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► and so I didn't get that one and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► got the 15-inch I don't know but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/219">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► it was really only just a few days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► before the embargo deadline so i opened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► it and turned it on and and looked at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► but I spent much less time with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► 15-inch simply because i already had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/232">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► 13-inch with the touch bar setup right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► with my stuff you know it's a I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/236">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► bbedit on it and you know i have I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/239">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► just there and emptied little you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► the thing I do to wrap blockquote so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/245">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► blockquote that's alright and if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► not that we're complaining about getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/251">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► review units but you know onboarding to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► a new mac is a lot of work and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► have to do it three times in three weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/256">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► we go here we go again like what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/258">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► files what do I installed come on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/261">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► grade no i don't really want to migrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/263">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► but then i have to install everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/264">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► I've done you know big hook up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► dropbox and I don't know about you I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/268">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► also have to juggle like they're these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► hard breaks up like five authorized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/274">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► itunes computers and like not authorized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/276">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► yeah and so I'm always juggling like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/280">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► logging out of of different iPads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► phones and stuff in order to get slots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► back to put other computers in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/286">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► complaining it's it's great that we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/291">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► to do this for our job but you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► that all of this stuff is not meant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/294">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► be done as frequently as we do him so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► yeah I i I'm even little things I've run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/298">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► into a little thing where my amex card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/302">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► has a maximum limit on how many apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► pick up a devices that can be hooked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► uh-huh and oh yeah and you know and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/310">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► uu it it's magnified because it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/313">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► to now you get two phones when they give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/317">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► you review phone to give you one of each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► size and it's like I got iPads and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/320">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► and it's like I don't even know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/323">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► know and some of them i foolishly left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► named John's ipad so it's like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/327">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► which one is that I don't mean what and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/333">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► I just usually the they're like updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► that reset the name so I realized the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► other day that my ipad is called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► ipad again it's like well I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/342">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► when that happened but it's like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/343">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► wonder I went on my device list my soft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/344">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► three things named ipad and had no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/347">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► it's yeah it's a lie i have been able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/351">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► Apple pay i've been testing the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► watch two and i actually I'm written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/356">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► about that yet but they can't do Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► pay because it's just I think my um my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► financial institutions have given up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► me and they're like no no more devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► for you every time I hear it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/365">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► oh and my bank as sometimes what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/370">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► done is I i generally if i use a charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/372">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► card i use my amex it's just I just use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/375">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► it everywhere and the only times I ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/378">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► don't use it isn't a place that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/379">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► but to get around this amex limit if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► have a device that i'm testing from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/387">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► apple that I don't really want to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► i know i'm not gonna spend a ton of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► on you know like for example at WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/393">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► they gave me a an Apple watch with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/397">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► beta of watch us three-mile which wich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/401">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► like it's like I think that's one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► i don't know but at some point they gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/406">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► it to me it wasn't a new hardware it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► just you know here you could try this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/410">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► thing out with the watch was three and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► thought that's interesting but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/413">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► just I'll just put the watches 3 beta on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► my own wife watch you know I mean and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/416">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► I didn't you know I didn't want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► put this amex limit on it so i use my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/420">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► my my my bank sends me a letter in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/423">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► mail every time I set up Apple pay that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► it's like congratulate it's so totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► written from the perspective of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► you're going to have one device you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► that you do this with will tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► everything how it works and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► I just keep it's like I I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► kept all the letters because i bet i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/439">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► well I i think the advantage of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► it so easy in so many different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/444">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► that you do you review tech products to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/447">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► lose perspective if you're not careful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/450">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► and this is like the reverse of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► which is there's nobody I think more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/454">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► aware of the pain of of basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/458">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► upgrading to a new device then reviewers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/462">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► because we have to do it like with every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/465">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► device look for a while there I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/468">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► tell you everything you need to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/469">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► migrate from a macbook to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► macbook or from a powerbook to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► power book because i was reviewing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► the laptops at macworld and so like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/478">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► everything a couple times a year and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/482">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► I mean that's good because we get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/486">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► experience that and I think apples got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► some issues with with the migration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► assistant on the mac and with some stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► they're getting better but like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/493">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► they've got some issues there and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► really come out when you're migrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/496">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► multiple times a year because regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► people only might do it once a year for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/500">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► a phone and once every several years for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/501">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► an ipad or your Mac I i have spoken I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► still think it's too hard on a Mac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/507">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► yeah and I think part of it is because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/508">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► technical challenge and not just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► disinterest I think because you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/517">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► still have so much freedom of what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► put we're now file system on a mac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/522">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► technically not it's not you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/529">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► say close the disc and open it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/531">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► it's because there's all sorts of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/533">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► different hardware you know I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► the number one motivator why they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/538">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► what they did desktop and documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► thinking the way they did it was that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/541">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► don't like their if you keep everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/543">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► if you buy everything three App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► which you know some people do and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► you're not a superpower user but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► keep everything in documents and on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/552">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► desktop and and then you log into a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/553">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► mac like it will just sync your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/556">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► and you're ready to go it's it's for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► rest of us who've got you know legacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► apps non mac app store apps all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► stuff like that and then you turn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► migration assistant i'm not convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► migration assistant is doing so hot i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► tried I've tried it twice with these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► macbook pros that I've got and it failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/574">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► both times you know it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► i've given up on migration assistant DA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► beyond i haven't used it in a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/581">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► I mean and maybe I should you know give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/583">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► it another shot one of these health of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/585">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► what you just had is reading I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► should i what i don't recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/588">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► what I have is an apple notes document i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/591">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► started this two or three years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/595">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► setting up a new mac and so it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/596">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► first thing I do is I like you know go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► through the first run I put my icloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/602">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► guy you know go through and put my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/604">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► icloud credentials in so because I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► my cloud credentials in my notes inks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► and write a note has a checklist of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/609">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► know do this do this do that now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/613">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► you know and that's like about boarding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/616">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► script more dollars yourself yeah more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► or less and then some of the stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/621">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► completely checklist right let's do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► then do this team is already gotten so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/624">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► yeah you know it kills me be at it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/627">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► sink all of it some wood let's let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/628">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► let's the nerd out free it's you and me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/632">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► we talk about baseball talk about bbedit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/633">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► BB that will let you put like all of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/635">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► support stuff in in dropbox which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► great and I use that but its preferences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/640">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► file does not go in dropbox and so every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/644">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► new Mac I either have to manually reset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/647">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► all of the preferences or I have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/650">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► to you know a home folder library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/651">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► preferences dot bare-bones BB and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/657">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► preferences and copy that file over so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/661">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► that my editor is the way I like it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► I do that every single time I move max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► it's like one of those things on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/667">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► checklist is I gotta move my BB at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► preferences because there they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/670">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► they don't cloud sync I can't fish them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► out dropbox yeah I've been meaning 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/673">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► used that ever since bb-8 added that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► I mean it's couple years ago at least at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/678">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► first I really liked it but it's grown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/681">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► to annoy me because I end up with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► the same documents open because i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/685">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► have the preference set to ya restore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► open documents and are all almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► almost everything I reckon bbedit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► stored in dropbox so when I go to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/694">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► different machine and use bbedit their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/698">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► dropbox has the same document and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► it's open in two and I don't I I fat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/703">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► have found that I don't want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/706">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► because I don't try to leave too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/707">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► yeah and and oftentimes I you know i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/711">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► leave one place and finish on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/714">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► and then I go back and it's like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/716">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► don't want that you know its opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► documents i'm done with because it lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/719">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► state because i'm not you know keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/721">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► them in open and sink myself and that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/722">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► i agree i've noticed that but i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/725">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► fact that like all my scripts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► clippings and things like that are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► sort of there everywhere that's nice i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► do too but I the ni dai know it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/733">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► to annoy me to go back to the old way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/736">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► where if i write a new script or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► one of my scripts just tweak one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► scripts that to get that prepared script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► to percolate everywhere i'd have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/743">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► you know Ram zip up the the I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/750">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► maybe what I should do is just turn off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/753">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► the preference to reopen documents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► see I don't know I've had it but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/756">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► mild annoyance that i've had i've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/758">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► thinking for like a year i should like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► dig into this and and redo it but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► don't another so so many things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► do with our computers that are like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/766">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► annoying but it doesn't you got up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► gotta clear the bar of i'm going to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/770">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► down for an hour and figure out what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/772">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► hell is going on and so that you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► like me I'm not gonna leave it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/776">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► probably do we do you have more than an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/777">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► maybe maybe not but it's just enough i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/780">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► automation stuff where automation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► great but it's gotta you gotta clear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/786">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► time to like do it and once you do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► like yeah i-i've got this automation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► thing but so often it's just like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/793">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► I'm not gonna bother I I it's close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/794">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► enough and it's not enough annoyance for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/797">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► me to break out an hour to try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► figure it out so you just leave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► I actually you know it's funny you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/803">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► should say that i actually did a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► of those things last week as a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/806">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► get my mind off of other things you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/810">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► my mind off the internet and I found it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► very difficult to to write honestly got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/816">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► a what i read a thing you know that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/823">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► just keep going mad here and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/826">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► Merlin and I talked about this last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► extensively you know blah blah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► election and hard feelings but I saw a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► couple of other people with sight Steven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/834">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► Levy and a good thing on his back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► channel he had everything was just a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► after the election but I i have a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/839">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► of me says I should just charge ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/844">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► and write some you know typically daring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► fireball topic stuff because other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/848">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► people who read daring fireball i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/851">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► would more than even usual love to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/853">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► their mind occupied by this you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/856">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► get it off thoughts of the election and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► Trump yeah but then there's another half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/863">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► of me that says that is it's it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/866">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► it's inappropriate right that did with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/871">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► something this the you know that seismic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/874">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► level happens it's just it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► foolish to write something that is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► off topic and I'm sorry I i found myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/883">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► unusually jammed last week in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/886">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► actually getting anything written by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► what i did is i occupied myself by doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► a couple like Apple script things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► I've been meaning to write for myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/896">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► and it really it helped I this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/897">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► thing where I once i start like writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► an apple script and I'm yeah I'm because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/902">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► half of it would for me always with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/904">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► Apple script is what the hell is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/906">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► our can go by and I haven't had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► thoughts of the election and I'm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► it's like the best our my day was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► writing yeah what is it here I've got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/919">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► just opened its a apple script that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/921">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► create a new text file at the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/924">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► right in the current Finder window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/926">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► well that's nice yeah i mean i I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/928">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► it'sit's funny we're talking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/931">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► because the as we record this i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► that the news kind of broke today that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► Sal's ago Ian who is the automation an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/938">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► applescript product manager at apple for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/942">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► years is no longer employed by Apple I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/943">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► oh yeah yeah i Justi just mentioned he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/948">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► did it he did a presentation at the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► tech conference today and and I'm not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/952">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► I just say i'm sad but I'm not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► surprised because i'm not sure Apple's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► has been on that particular ball for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► long time but you know and it's not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► everybody and I when I talk people know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/963">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► that i do automation stuff and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/964">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► like oh you know I it's hard to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/966">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► and and that's all true but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► know every and again I do leave things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/971">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► for a long time and sometimes it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/974">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► a well you know I should automate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/976">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► but every time I do one of those I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/977">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► finally put in that work not only as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► kind of a pleasure to solve the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► i am I think to myself this must be what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► computer programmers feel all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/985">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► but you know once it's done i guess i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/986">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► can hand it to other people sometimes if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► they wanted I've done that a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► and you know things get passed around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/994">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► and it can make it just can make your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/996">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► life better like I i have a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/998">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► things now that are there not even Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/999">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► scripts their their shell scripts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► run inside a service so basically you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► know you basically make an automator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► thing that says do the shell scripts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► yeah and and then you want that table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► current selection as input and pass it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► yeah and so I did that for like I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► I've got all these scripts that either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► clicking on something in the finder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► and doing a keyboard shortcut or I'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► choosing it from the the contextual menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► to do all sorts of like audio processing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► and stuff for podcasts and I just do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► in in its it's all scripts running in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► the background and I got a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► scripts from Marco Arment who is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► comfortable with the command line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► just issues all this things from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► command line like I'm not gonna do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► you know I'm going to wrap it an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► automator and just hit a keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► shortcut and do it and it's great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► every time I do one of those things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► think to myself I can't believe I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► months where I was bringing up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► terminal and dragging and folders to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► the pathnames and then issuing the shell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► scripting commands and all that now only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► do is point & click and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► that's the great thing about Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► automation stuff and iOS to really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► once once it's done you know it's out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► the way all you do is go Boop and magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► things happen and you know that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► that's that's the abstracted computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► user interface in a nutshell right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► is you shouldn't know what the steps are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► you should be able to build the steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► and then put it aside and just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► doing your work there and some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► utilities you know that are along those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► lines like text expander and keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► maestro I think you are my star does i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► almost certain text expander does is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► there's a way if you go to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► it shows you how much time you say since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► you've been using it and if you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► using i I've got some of these utilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► where I somehow it it's like I look and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► it tells me I've saved you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► like 10 hours of Emma for so many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► but that's like a and each little step i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► get one of them for me i fade published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► this somewhere i don't know i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► think it's on just or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► that I've written about on during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► fireball but I have a very particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► style of title casing i use on daring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► fireball alright where is it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► everything you know big word gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► uppercase letter and then there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► specific set of little words that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► not like of a and uh and it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► tricky though to do it to to automate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► because if you can be fooled by things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► like quotes in the text that's being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► selected because then that should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► capitalized if it's the first word in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► quote because it's like the title of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► thing so I back together a script years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► ago that gets it right 99.9 percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► the time and I have a exactly like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► know like you said it's an automator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► script or our service with that shell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► script running in it and have it mapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► to shift shift command T for ya title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► and there are some I I think about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► much time that has saved me over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► years and it's it's just unbelievable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► and but before I wrote it even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► i've been using it for years I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► we're all those years I was like arrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► arrow arrow shift and we type the letter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► yeah it'sit's um I mean that's a keeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► my sister tells me save seven hours by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► the way i just looked it goes back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► regular expressions right i mean you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► you write the chapter in the BB at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► manual about regular expressions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► you know i know but the second half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► it is so I i think this is first I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► the regular expression chapter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► bbedit was there when i started but BB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► it was really a derivative of the flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► of the original unix one guy named Henry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► somebody somebody wrote it and it only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► had like the basic regular expression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► surprised it was almost more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► glorified wildcards yeah and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► fancy stuff that you can do when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► read that chapter and you're like holy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► crap was added when i was there and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► wrote the group you know they had added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► onto the chapter to write all the pcre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► yeah that's anyway that that's I i tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► expressions and then a that same look as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► when i talk about automator if you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► about shell scripting which is like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► don't want to learn it and understand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► i don't know and i get i get that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► like especially when I when I would talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► to writers and editors about crap I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► like you understand text is what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► for a living i'm telling you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► bought it like by Jeff freedoms book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► you know or read the BBA chapter there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► are things in there that you know you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► you learn it all of a sudden you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► sitting there thinking oh man I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► believe I need to do this this is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► to take me an hour and if you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► language of grip if you know those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► symbols you can do it in two minutes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► it had only happen once okay and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► realize that it is because you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► is a life skill that you need to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► i I'll tell you the truth is a true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► expressions while i was in college even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► though I was a bbedit nerd Comp Sci [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► major I I did it just look I i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► think the farthest i ever got was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► dot plus and dot star which is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► just more like like old cars wildcards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► find everything and I just never saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► need for it and like a year or so after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► philadelphia inquirer in the advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► department where they had a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► Excel spreadsheets with all of the ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► rates for everything and it was each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► department had their own thing in each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► one had like seven pages or 12 pages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► add in a you know a matrix you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► it keeping them in excel as where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► business people set them made total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► sense and then you know they're be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► graphic designers who turn them into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► book that they could send out the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► so I got hired to do these books because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► I could do graphic design and so I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► the first one and this is that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► did it but there was all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► gibberish in columns that wasn't public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► we know it was it must have made sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► for the business people who use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► Excel spreadsheet but what it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► need to go in there and so the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► every you know it was done before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► the way I did the first book was you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► just went in and edit each column by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► hand and it was just you know tab delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► tap delete and and just pages and pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► and pages and pages and you know couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► of days work easily i may be a week's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► work for the whole book mostly just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► deleting crap and i thought there's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► to be a better way and I thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► that i think this is the sort of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► regular expressions are supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► solve and so I wrote I just felt like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► day writing like that just a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► regular expressions and bbedit and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► so i went from excel to text bbedit to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► just run a couple of saved grep patterns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► imported it into the document and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► done and I literally mean literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► turned like a week's work of work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► each book into about like two hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► and so I just what I acted as though i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► didn't write the script and just static [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► browse the web but it's that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► actually going out of Excel is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► like a pro tip for for all this stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► is like I can't tell you how many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► I've had something in Excel that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► a disaster and I just selected and paste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► into bbedit comes in his tab delimited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► tab-delimited file and you and you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► all of the crazy tech stuff and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► make sure that they're there are tabs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► between the field and right bring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► back into excel and you're like look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► yeah it was it was all it was an excel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► all along but it wasn't you you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► completely take it out you x we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► taking multiple columns in excel and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► pulled them out and then kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► mix them and match them and and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► reassemble them in the right way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► then you paste them back in and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► like you know it's like that you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► left excel but they totally came out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► excel and it's not like you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► some wild card stuff in excel but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► probably right visual basic script to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► things too but for me it was just like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► get this back to text and can i can i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► write a couple of pattern matching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► search and replaces that solve this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► problem and usually the answer is yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► and you can take an hour for can do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► find that it i mean literally wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► web literally terrible of weeks weeks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► work in two hours of work and I just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► paid for weeks or I felt like I deserved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► it huh yeah i would just say this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► it was a long time ago must have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► 2001 or so when i wrote that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► second half of the bbedit group chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► I would still say it is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► pieces of writing that I am most proud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► of in my entire life because I've people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► have told me many times when they find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► out that i wrote it they're like oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► god that was the first time regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► persons ever made sense to me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► can't take credit for the whole chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► but I did take a pass through the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► part just because that was my goal is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► do feel like I have a knack for regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► that's the one area of programming where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► I'm better than almost anybody it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► just ice I really am good at figuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► out how to create the syntax to match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► and ends up creating these things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► they're like what the hell yeah i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► want i think that's the problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► with regular expressions readability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► like people see them anything about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► it's nonsense I can't do it so no if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► not all of them but most of them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► well I just thought me know but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► something this is I get the perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► combination for me because i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► knack for explaining things and i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► knack for regular expressions and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► hindsight I still feel you know what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► 14 15 years later I'd I i still feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► it's one of the best things I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► yeah yeah I love that chapter that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► mentioned Jeff riedel's O'Reilly book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► about this is great but it's from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► possession of a you know longtime unix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► guy and he talks about scripting a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► in that like shell and perl scripting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► and for me the most direct application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► was bbedit so the BBA chapter is a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► more distilled clear approach to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► then I love that freedom book and I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► to reference at all the time but the BB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► the chapter is a much more simple gentle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► yeah I love it I love the freedom book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► too and i read I've read both editions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► maybe three editions and there might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► a third I don't know every time there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► a new addition there is a third and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► have all three copies and I've read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► all covered it is but it's a i would i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► would definitely say it is it it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► Friedel book is so comprehensive and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► well done that it's I don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► I've ever read any book on any subject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► where you could say well there's no need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► for anybody else to ever write a book on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► this again but I would honestly say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► that's the case with freedoms book on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► regular expressions and I just can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► how anybody else would sit would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► well I'll take the time to write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► technical book which is really hard on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► this subject when there's a book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► both perfectly and extensively all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► maybe I'll take a break how about I take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► a break here and think the first friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► it's our good friends good good friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► Casper Casper they make obsessively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► engineer mattresses and shockingly fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► prices go to Casper calm / the talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► and used code the talk show and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► say fifty bucks towards your mattress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► with one exception hold on i'll tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► so here's the deal I've told you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► before I'll say it again Casper has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► created one perfect type of mattress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► it's it's a combination of like memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► foam and some other stuff that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► the right blend of types of things so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► you don't have to pick between six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► different types of mattresses that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► know what the hell how do you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► the differences these guys it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► sort of like the Apple attitude taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► two mattresses trust us will do all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► work will make one type of mattress and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► then all you have to do is pick the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► that's it that is it's the just seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1735">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► me this is how a mattress company should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► do it now in addition to that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► they sell they make them they right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► in United States in fact and they sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► them directly to you you just go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► they cut out the middleman and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► enables them to keep their prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► incredibly lower than the mainstream big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► brand mattresses you find in traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► mattress stores premium mattress is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► often start at well over 1,500 casper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► mattresses cost just 500 for twin 754 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► full 854 queen and just 954 a king so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► you can get a king from them for less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► than like a twin from a lot of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► big brands crazy there and like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► they're made right here in America now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► biggest thing you think how am I going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► to buy a thousand-dollar mattress and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► not even try it you have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► they have a hundred knight home trial if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► you don't love it they will pick it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► at your house give you a full refund no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► it's not like trying to cancel your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► cable it it's something like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► just say i want to send it back and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► say ok when you know and then somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► shows up and they take the mattress away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► and you get your money back and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► it I've had readers Casper's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► sponsor long enough i've gotten emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► from readers who have done that and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► said i can't believe how you know can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► believe how easy it was to actually just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► send it back because they actually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► know they didn't believe that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► going to be easy because that sounds too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► but that's how confident Casper is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► your mattress get yours today hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► Knights in your own home they have a dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► mattress even that's a new product and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► that's the one that you don't get 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► bucks on because it's a lower price but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► if you have a if you have a dog get him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► I've had readers tell me this is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► when i first did this read i didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► that the discount it apply to the dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► one so I had a couple of readers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► said hey I've got my dog the mattress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► but i didn't get 50 bucks off but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► don't care because my dog loves the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► mattress so that's that's the exception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► go to Casper calm / the talk show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► remember that code the talkshow to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► fifty bucks on any human sized mattress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► maybe that would get my dog off my couch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► i love doing sponsor reads I've gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► from having it be the part of this job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► that I hate to part that I i love i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► think that makes the I'm not to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► podcast e inside baseball but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► that's make makes the reads better once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► when you can't either a couple podcast i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► listen to where you know the ads are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► part of the entertainment and you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► can't you know you cannot listen to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► you can tune out you can't skip you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► really gotta pay attention because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► went they they put their personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► into them and you know and that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► that makes the difference if it's if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► it's like a hostage video or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► it's a lot less entertaining but if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► then it's a lot better I can't even tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► you how many emails I got from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► about last week's show with Maryland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► where they're a just thinking was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► oh my god I needed that you know uh huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► you know for the election even they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► like oh my god sponsor reach so good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► will have to do is take a mental break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► here and just say I I don't have time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► respond to all of my email but I got so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► much email never at most emails I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► gotten about an episode of the show in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► as long as i can remember from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► last week and all of it I i honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► didn't see one that was I honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► thought there'd be some from Trump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► people or you know people who just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► want to hear about people who are upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► about the way the election turned out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► you know go back to tech dummy i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► get any of that and which was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► our goal that was the way you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► we approached in what we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► but I got so much email from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► thanking us for that so i just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► say to all of you who listen thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► for listening and thank you for the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► words i have a podcast question for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► do you do any other podcast regularly i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► occasionally so you here in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► occasionally podcast yeah yeah just some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► time from time you mean like all per day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► is like that I guess I got a bug up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► butt recently about something that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► never thought about before and I this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► the sort of thing that I tend to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► about I can't believe I didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► think that much about it when I set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► the talkshow to be on daring fireball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► which is the fact that I've been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► it I've always done it it and most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► the podcast almost all the podcasts I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► see do it but putting the episode number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► in the title and making the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► number a major part you know like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► the main anchor on the URL that the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► dead on our websites on six colors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► during fireball we don't have post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► number you know 420 3123 right now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► yeah a little-little 20 3323 why why do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► we do this and and you know TV shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► don't do it I mean they sort of do now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► the right where you're like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► watch digitally you do you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► going through season 1 episode 7 of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► american horror story or whatever so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► there is right there's sort of that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► TV but I don't know I I it's a good it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► a good question like why why do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► number podcasts and you you I can always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► tell what number it is because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► actually do number them in the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► slug of of the talk show but not like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► the in what people see just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► real descriptions right I i well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► but I have them in the metadata for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► show so like when you're looking at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► podcast player it will say 1 773 yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► well I switched recently I did switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► just a couple weeks ago from putting EP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► period space the digital you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► representation of the number colon i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► took out the EP because i thought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► know what it its craft like that I yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► I don't like I like clean urls I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► like seen dot PHP at the end of the URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► i don't like seeing all the gibberish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► and like the medium URLs I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► tracking in a URL i like the URL to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► every single bit of it be meaningful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► I same way with like the titles i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► yeah I don't know their seem it part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► me thinks that part of it is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► want to know which one's the newest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► episode in your podcast player and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► maybe it actually is useful because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► you it's it's a more confident way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► making sure that your podcast player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► whatever software it is whichever sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► order it's using top to bottom or bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► to top you know which one's the newest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► uh-huh so I'm keeping it i like when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► made the change to get rid of the e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► period i was on the verge of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► getting rid of him period and maybe just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► putting them in the URL but then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► thought you know what I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► reason everybody does it matter with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► think I don't know if it's a reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► is I don't know if it's a good reason or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► if it's more just sort of continuity I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► mean some of it is reference why is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► be able to say it's this one like saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► like the macworld we had volumes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► numbers like internally we would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► liked you turning us a story and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► would be 24 dash 0 for and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► literally 2404 was like the tooth the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► april two thousand eight issue or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► something is like vol.24 number four and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► and that was partially because in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► fight in the file system like it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► sort right that all the 2400 force would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► go together and then there you have 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► 405 and it would just kind of keep going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► like that so I think some of it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► sort of like finding an internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► structure and for podcast you could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► it by date you could literally say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► know this is the one for the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► this day in November of 2016 and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► metadata certainly supplies that so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► could just you could just do that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► I don't know as a kid growing up I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► really loved reading comic books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► comic books always had that like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► amazing spider-man number 183 and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► they would have footnotes and they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► say no spider-man face the Scorpion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► before an amazing spider-man number 83 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► and send him to prison and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► account number III yes if only I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► that issue i could read that now and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► was part of what appeals to me about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► podcast numbering scheme is that which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► is just it lets you hang a number on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► and say for reference sake this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► it is rather than saying season one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► number three or just giving you a date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► but I don't know if that's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► I'm probably also the the other thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► I had this since the incomparable is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► at 326 episodes I think maybe it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► it made sense when you did 10 episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► of a podcast in the early its podcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► and now there are these podcasts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► have hundreds and hundreds of episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► were pretty soon if not already there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► will very soon be many podcast with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► a thousand-plus episodes tomorrow so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► hannah it's sort of crazy marco was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► saying on ATP a couple an episode or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► ago because he knows because he runs so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► Radio One's get it he said that the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► yeah at the end they do because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► radio stations that will publish five or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► six podcast today like it meaning like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► the 15 or 12 hour three our four of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► you know the sports fans podcast in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► comments okay you'll have episode 1500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► crazy the comic-book analogy is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► good guess the best for me is it gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► you something to hang on sequentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► and say look we've done a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► and and then I that with incomparable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► mean even though we built an index and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► one of the reasons that we did end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► using using movable-type which you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► rball for the incomparable CMS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► because i wanted a I wanted an index of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► of topics and so I've got an index of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► topics so if somebody wants to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► what's that episode where where John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► grouper and John Syracuse to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► the Godfather you can look up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► godfather and it won't be like it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► number right but still people will email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► me tweet me post on Facebook whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► they'll say was that episode about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► whatever and it there is something nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► about being able to say that was number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► 32 and just become point I'm gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► like it's that one that number i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► know it's like a little handle for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► yeah the alternative would be the just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► look at the dates just happened but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► doesn't show up that's not gonna show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► in the list in your podcast player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► well but that's maybe a self-fulfilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► prophecy right right i mean i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► maybe podcast player you I is is in part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► based on the idea that a lot of podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► organize themselves by numbers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► overcast has it has a date field right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► and there are dates for every episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► and in overcast and i would imagine most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► podcast players or are kinda like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► and certainly if a podcast weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► numbered I'm sure they would all be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► yeah but if you if I'd like made my not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► numbered or didn't put the numbers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► the titles it's not going to change it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► you know i mean it's the collective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► decision that the broadcast industry as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► yes it is it's more fun for me to say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► talked about raiders of the lost ark and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► the incomparable number eight then it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► to say October 17 2010 episode was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► that was that the gap in my appearances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► on the uncomfortable with it because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► laughed about I was just on recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► like you just said to talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► Godfather with John turkeys in a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► other and forget their names sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► because I went there was a bunch it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► it was great I had a great time I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► can't count the number of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► made the crack on twitter that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► can't believe that all of us long-winded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► podcasters made a podcast about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► but it was at it that I hadn't been on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► since Reuters that was episode aid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► yeah that was six is basically six years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► October 10-2 October 16 other than a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► we were in my interview for my david [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► letterman episode which was I yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► in terms of like being on the panel yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► we want to mate 2 323 that's fine that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► fine i tried a couple of times to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► you on it's like you're busy and and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► want to like with Merlin i kinda want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► deploy you guys tactically I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► to be like I want to ask you when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► there's something I got this really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► news like I for like a couple years I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► don't think we're going to the godfather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► to get siracusa when asked John Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► you know what will make we're gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► it happen and we finally made it happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► was great to get somebody to go to miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► you know any chance to talk about able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► although we didn't make it happen until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► yeah well mr. maybe we can maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► was what I was waiting for just I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► able to pass on before we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► I like this is so amazing i literally at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► just five seconds ago got a DM from rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► single creator video asking if I'd heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► that salad left Apple yeah west dive I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► was spooked I was like is he listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► do we have a live broadcast that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► know that I should have turned off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► live stream for being competent be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► everyone's been talking about him but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► then I realized that asking have I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► means he's not spoken but that was kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► spooky given that we we spent a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► chance the last 45 minutes talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► bbedit and automation and tell ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2573">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► yeah i read i really enjoyed your review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► I thank you often think of when I write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► these reviews I don't know if you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► the same way but I write them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► sometimes I feel like I i know that i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► got this like I'm might I I don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► know I don't care of other people agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► with me or not but my I know that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► I'm saying about this i'm certain of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► other times I feel like I haven't had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► something a lot of times it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► I feel like I have enough time but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► other times it's like I'm not sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► what I care about is representative of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► enough people and I kind of had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► worried with the reviewer wrote of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► macbook pros because i know that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► a lot of people who are disappointed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► just the basic idea of the direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► apple is taking them on but I read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► whole bunch of the reviews from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► who I really respect like you enjoy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► stern it goes on and i read a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► bunch of them after you know after after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► my review and it really seemed to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► like a very large consensus of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► yeah I tried to mean because the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► we've got kind of strung out i got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► write a piece after the apple event with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► that was basically quick hands-on with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► that 13-inch macbook escape and I got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► I got to use it for a week and travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► and then write another piece about it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► the time I got to the touch bar one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► felt like I kind of addressed the issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► about like peoples disappointment i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► rather than I think I macworld column [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► about people's disappointment and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► that meant for like why kind of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► let everything build up and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► people kind of this was a thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► disappointment and let it out and and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► I felt like by the time i get a touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► bar review I could like it was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► because I could just write about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► touch bar and was like I i wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► couple sections about the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► computer but really it was an essay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► about the touch bar in touch ID because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► that was the thing that was little was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► left and frankly was the thing i found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► most interesting and its really why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► love 3i honest I'm not just saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► because you're on the show in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► palates really why I of all the reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► i really think i like year's best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► because i spent a relatively little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► amount on touch bar just because I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► so much else to say about sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► bigger picture and the other thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► thought was that your video which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► focused almost entirely on the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► was super instructive in like a in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► difference between like the way Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► about the touch bar in fact did and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► showed it during the event yours was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► focused on look when you're doing real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► stuff like here's you know just stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► little things you know like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► that you can it when you adjust the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► brightness or the volume you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► put your finger on it and slide without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2758">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► tapping on the actual thing that shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► up it illustrated in a way that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► like 10,000 words wouldn't have conveyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► you really have it to visual it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► clearly a very visual input device and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► so I feel like the video really help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► have you done video reviews before I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► done a handful of them i did some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► macworld and then since I've been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► six colors I've done a few that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► they take time and the challenges always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► am I doing this because everybody agrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► that videos the future and we need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► video or am i doing it because video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► will be able to impart something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► worth imparting and and for me it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► is like I will put in the time if I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► like this is gonna be the best way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► communicate something with the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► it was very clear this was the weighted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► I i needed to communicate what was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► on with the touch bar and I had the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► I finished that review basically on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► friday afternoon in the embargo was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► monday morning and so on the weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► unlike the sunday morning i basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► sat down is it alright let's figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► if i can make a video here and i ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► up with like an iphone 7 on a in a glyph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► attached to a like a little tripod and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► bigger tripod and I tried to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► like can I get an angle where I can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► the touch bar and it's not blown out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► then I can capture the screen and kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► of put them together and in the end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► did work which is good because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► what i wanted is like I wanted people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► be able to see like what happens on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► screen what happens on the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► what's the result can you see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► animations can you see how some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► apps have these totally wild like slider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► interfaces and others just have keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► some of them color the keys some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► don't color the keys and until you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► there will be it's a little harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► because you can't like to a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► capture of its hard to make those videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► and i have the advantage of having some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► time to shoot the video when I figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► out of the gate there aren't going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► that many videos that explain this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► feature and apples videos are probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► not what people want to see because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► they're gonna be really slick but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► sara lee i mean the marketing videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► they're not going to necessarily like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► slowed down enough for people to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► what's going on and in the end it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► about five minutes long which you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► kinda feel like could be too long but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► the same time I felt like I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► packed in with stuff so but it was worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► doing because of that because it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► was how much how many words like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► said how many words what I had to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► write to convey what i could just show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:20 ◼ ► in a video yeah I I honestly feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2900">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► it that's the sort of thing that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► can't be done it verbally it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► I say even even just little things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► look here's what it looks like in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► app here's what it looks like in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► monochromatic and you can go through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► bunch of stuff in the touch bar apps you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► know switching from app to app and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► know doing things and using the control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► strip and it almost feels like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► monochrome screen and then all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► sudden you're in something like Maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► question and it's it is all lit up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► yeah i'm not saying that's wrong yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► iight but it is you know it it it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► such a different thing know and all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► sudden when your keyboard like Maps is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► probably the best example but it it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► your keyboard lights up with all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► colors it is a weird different thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► because i've been using App laptops for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► I don't know long time you know at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► 15 16 17 years since i first bought one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► and had one at the school paper before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► that so you know probably 20 years my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► keyboards never let up in color before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► yeah so yeah it was surprisingly weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► to me it really was when you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► surprisingly interesting to me you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► a calculator is the other one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► struck me because they there are a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► of those keys are like an orange they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► yeah and they're still keys but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► super bright that maps it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► basically putting up the same icons that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► are in iOS and they're very colorful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► that is the by far the most colorful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► implementation sort of standard buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► like people the calculator I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► calculator was really instructive done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► only in the use of color but both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► calculator and James Thompson's p Cal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► those were those were both instructive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► to me in realizing that what I what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► think is the right way to handle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► touch bar is as an extension of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► keyboard and not i mean when all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► questions like why I wouldn't why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► you need to touch bar why wouldn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► just want to use the mac interface it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► was that idea of I don't know how to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► this with the keyboard which means that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► i'm going to get to a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► where i have to take my hands off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► keyboard move down to the trackpad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► click on some UI on the screen and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► the calculator was that moment where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► realized oh I can put like square roots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► and cube root and log and sine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► cosine on the touch bar and I can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► numbers and then immediately just move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► my hands slightly up and go tap and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► conversion you know fahrenheit to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► celsius or something and my hands stay i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► was already up on the number right in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► hand just move up and that was that more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► I thought oh yeah this is why this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► this is where this shines is I just stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► on the keyboard and the touch bar kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► of just as an extension of the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► that and is that how everybody's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► to use it I don't know it's so early we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► don't really know but it felt to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► that was the moment that unlocked like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► see why you would use this and and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► I am James sent me a beta P calc where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► when you tap the function keys it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► functions in the UI and and what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► meant was I tap the the touch bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► then I had to take my hands off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► keyboard move to the trackpad and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► move the cursor up and then click on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► which one I wanted and I sent him an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► email back and said you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► this is wrong i think what you need is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► to put your functions in the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► because because it feels like a defeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► if I touch the touch bar and then i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► to take my hands off of it and move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► around with the cursor and so he changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► it and now it's like your most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► the functions and conversions appear in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► the touch bar and it's like night and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► day because now i type in 32 and I tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► conversion fahrenheit to celsius and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► that and it all happens on the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► and I never have to sort of switch modes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► yeah and I think that calculator is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► the apples calculators an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► example in a couple of ways I I my gut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► feeling is that that's one of the apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► that got it most right yeah me too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► one thing to and I know apple said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► is true but my experience testing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► device is that it is clear that apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► mac app engineering teams spent a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► time working on touch bar support for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► their apps because there are obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► some of the oddball apps like the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► that are in applications / utilities you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► know it had only one who's got updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► it did you really go through everyone i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► did i did i I've got you want to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► the list no review but it's like so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► to activity monitor not that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► that gets me activity monitor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► terminal are the two utilities that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► Gotye do about terminal i forgot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► right i forgot the terminal was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► buried away in utilities I used to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► but they also located in this is some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► the stock and some of them are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► straps straps but calculator calendar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► contacts finder Final Cut Pro garageband [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► iMovie itunes keynote male maps messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► numbers pages photos preview quicktime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► player safari system preferences and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► then they're a bunch of apps that use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► the sort of standard text editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► interface and they pick up a text editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► touch bar interface so like text edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► and and notes get that get that text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► editing so it's too so there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► there's like more than a dozen they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► a lot mean for people who say apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► doesn't care about the mac it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► they built this whole new bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► hardware and then they updated all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► these mac apps to support it was a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► of work right and there's a lot of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► in I might be missing something actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► but there's there's the the the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► engineering work of actually putting an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► embedded iOS device into the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► with this everything system-on-a-chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► and having a stay way that it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► interface with the Intel side you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► like this arm little arm computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► communicates with the Intel side and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► Intel side even does the because the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► of the things that the the iOS device on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► the touch part doesn't have is a GPU so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► the Intel side does the GPU rendering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► and has to go back but it's all done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► securely in and there's a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► electrical engineering going on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► that's it it's just that you'd never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► know it right didn't you know it's 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► frames-per-second just like iOS its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► it's just like you know you'd expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► from any apple iOS touch device so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► there's that engineered did physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► hardware engineering of that there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► and ended the second level is the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► programming side where all of these apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► were updated with whether they got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► none of them seemed half-ass they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► seemed like a lot of thought went into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► it all these apps got updated with touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► bar support which is a lot of work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► then in between those two there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► xcode side where the people who work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► the api's and xcode itself had to do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► developers have api's and and you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► simulator so they can test our machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► that don't actually have a touch bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► all of that stuff so an awful lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► work went into this and i completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► example number one that I whatever else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► is going on with the mac and some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► machines that have gone way too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► without getting updated it's clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► Apple this is invested in the mac i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► really think that touch bars is proof of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► yeah and we can debate and I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► trying to make this distinction for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► last couple of weeks it's like part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► what I think a lot of us do is try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► understand why Apple is doing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► Apple's motivation is why Apple made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► I want to separate that from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► judgments about whether these are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► decisions are not because i think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► could debate whether doing the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► is a good decision or not we can debate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► the price of these systems and we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► debate you know this there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► aspects of this that we can that we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► talk about but I think you can't debate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► the fact that Apple made a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► investment in the mac platform in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► in this this particular computer because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► we're seeing a huge bit of hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► a whole lot of software engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► happening here so we can you know we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► debate whether we think this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► right approach whether this was a waste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► of time whether having a laptop focused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► input device method is good or bad if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► it's going to be a gimmick there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► those things but you can't debate it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► a huge investment on Apple's part to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► this and if they really didn't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► about the mac why would they do it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► exactly i do another laptop with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► latest did intel chips and move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► right i mean that they could do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► yeah here's why I think calculators is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► great example the Apple calculator app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► is a great example because the buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► so Apple it at least I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► forever since like iOS 7 show and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► when you know the the Yosemite whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► the mac version was that got the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► Apple has a very consistent calculator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► look and it's you know mostly based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► yeah thanks you know orange buttons so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► when those buttons on the keyboard it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► makes the keyboard look calculator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► branded right like in so if you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► apples calculator you know what it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► like it's got this sort of just orange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► calculator look you see these buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► that are orange and it's it to me is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► very cool way of making the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► feel like it's part of the app it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► a really cool move and all of the all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► the functions that are in orange on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► UI are orange on the touch bar and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► it's like yeah you mean you immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► get it you're like oh yeah right like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► of course they are course the equals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► button is orange so I'd when I i was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► the event and I got to talk to people at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► Apple and they showed me the calculated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► and at it a couple of the people i spoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► to you know that this is one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► favorite examples i know it sounds silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► but they should be calculator and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► at first like in the default calculator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► mode the only button you have up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► divided x minus plus equals and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► said no that it seems silly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► those buttons are there you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► hit shift on the equals key to get plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► and you know it's it's not like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► can't type that but they said like it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► with the team that was using it we found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► that we loved this and surprising how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► many people at on the Apple at inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► Apple who had access to this and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► loved the calculator thing because all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► of a sudden you have to get it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► your laptop keyboard feel more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► having that extended keyboard that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► this the thing on the right side where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► you have number pads and dedicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► buttons for those features right there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► a reason why some people who enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► numbers a lot like having an extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► keyboard that has that keypad over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► it gives you sort of the now the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► layout maybe isn't quite as convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► having a horizontal row of numbers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► not having to worry about everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► shift or the fact that that they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► consecutive you know that- is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► there but plus you have to hit shift to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► get I mean it's all sort of weird typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► those those operators on the keyboard on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► that regular keyboard with you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► have a numpad with the touch bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► it really is natural yeah i mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► Slater is the best example and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► they really do run the game but i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► think that this is going to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► interface playground where we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► to learn a lot in the next year or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► where Apple and third-party developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► tried a bunch of stuff and find out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► the right approach is because it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► over the map now like how calculator is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► a good example because there are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► are buttons you want to press that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► are on keys like there is no I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► there's an equals key and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► there's a plus and minus and do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► but like multiplication is the asterisk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► and division is the / it's like no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► we're just going to put the symbols on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► the on these virtual keys at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► it's like that is the like almost purest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► example where there are things you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► to type that you don't know what keys to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► press so we're going to just draw those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► keys on the touch bar and you know now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► you know how to press them and you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► all the way down to something like Final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► Cut which is this incredibly intricate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► context-based set of of sometimes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► buttons sometimes it's got like sliders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► and scrubbers and things and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► and then there's a bunch of stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► in between where some some of them you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► I don't know if this is very useful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► then others you you look at and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► Maps you're like whoa you know what am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► what am I seeing now there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► can-can Pratap the the gas station but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► now and it will show me all the gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► stations around me and and I think over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► philosophically like what's the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► approach what people what looks good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► what do people actually want to use I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► found safaris to be useless and I'd have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► to make up i have to admit that i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► spend a lot of time configuring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► touch bar and a lot of apps just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► I ran out of time and I am gonna feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► like I will you know once i'm using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► touch of our quick macbook pro is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► domain laptop and i will get into do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► that but i found safaris default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► implementation to be useless which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► that it shows thumbnails of your tabs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► your current window and I mean maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► daring fireball is identifiable it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► like a gray button but it they just look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► like a bunch of what almost every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► indistinguishable they're just little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► white that with things you know little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► it's just too small i I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► possibly use that i also embed a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► bit baffled and and I say this also this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► is a larger complaint I have is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► added these these tabs safari tabs in El [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► Capitan and I like them and I use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► but they're not on iOS to this day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► they're not in the touch bar which also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► kind of baffles me like I've told you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► want these you know these sites and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► they've got these nice little icons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► they're important enough that I want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► to keep them tabbed all the time so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► ontology mean yeah the pin tabs are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► back and not accessible either so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► little bit and any other graphic that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► that's a great example of like what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3778">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► can do graphic previews of what of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► the pages that you've gotten your tabs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► and make it a slider it's like well that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► sounds great that's a really cool way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► showing that this is a feature that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► more than just buttons in it but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► practice I don't think it makes any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► sense i don't think it works at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► I am NOT that's the the bunch of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► like that that's like you know I get why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► you did it but I honest to god I'd I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► feel embarrassed that I didn't even look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► because it maybe I actually um maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► can actually go in and configure it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► do this but so if it's already there i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► gonna good after we're done recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► i'm gonna go set up my review unit to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► this but I think it should be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► default I my god is I think that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► far you should just default to putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► the next tab previous tab buttons up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► that don't show me they are one just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► next tab previous tab and make them nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► and big and have them say next tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► previous tab yeah i know it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► yeah I don't actually forward I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► next tab previous tab because i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► that the shortcuts for that is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► convoluted it's it's like control tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► and control shift tab which is really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► finger full use it that you get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► with those visual previews I do wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► and I I suspect there's a guideline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► somewhere that I haven't seen because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► I'm not a developer i do wonder about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► informational purposes if somebody laid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► down an edict to that like information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► it's like temporary text should not go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► in the touch bar because like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► baffled why the now playing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► control strip brings up a scrubber for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► itunes just like I'm never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► scrub for music but it might be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► fun just to if I pop that open to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► the name of the song i'm listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► its not there and it won't it'll show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► you in safari i'll show you little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► thumbnails a part of the page of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► webpage that your you've got loaded in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► your tabs but what it won't do is put up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► like the name of that tab right of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► page which would be more way more useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► and I wonder if they've decided like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► know if emerald kind of like text labels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► of what's in a page is not something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► should do in the touch bar i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► I agree with that but I thought I I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► seems like there's a rule at work here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► that they don't want to put like a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► text read out it's only for controls not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► for information and even then i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► say but but a sliver of a horizontal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► sliver of a webpage as a preview is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► useless to me too i am reminded and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► I skimmed the user interface guidelines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► for the touch bar I should get back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► that night he read them read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► thoroughly but I can't help but think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► that no matter how well-written that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► document is just that the evidence of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► using all of apple's apps is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► still sort of a wild west and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► they're feeling and now that third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► collectively are feeling our way to how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► we should use it and when i'm reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► of is how in the very early years of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3956">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► original mac let's save somewhere around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► nineteen eighty-four 289 or so i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► say took 45 years the mac was famous for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► its you know human interface guidelines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► right from the beginning and that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► is consistency and a toolbox that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► developers could use so everybody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► alert will look at it but you go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► and look at screenshots from like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► then you know almost close to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► nineties I'd say right around system 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► is where things got very definitively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► you know Matt all that smack like or um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► this app was clearly written by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► developer who does not know the matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► you just see stupid things like somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► okaaay in a diner a button right like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► a mac users eyes that it just jumps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► right out as and that's a mistake right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► you do not spell ok ok why but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► look back at like 84 85 86 like mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► dialogues you'd see that all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► and you're just weird layout you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► like not having a default button in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► things that you are or putting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► default button not in the bottom right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► corner it just things that eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► idiomatic right idiomatic Mac UI design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► we don't have rat yet that's the what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► an idiomatic design for the touch bar of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► a nap the touch part interface for a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► what type of features are our should go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► in there by default we don't have it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► yeah and and i'm excited by the fact i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► mean you could argue like maybe Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► App show a little more unification may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► then they have but I'm okay with it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► it looks like with some rules and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► restrictions everybody has tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► develop the right approach for their app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► and their content and their users and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:56 ◼ ► and sort of let the chips fall where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4076">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► they may and I think that's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4078">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► because I I mean right now i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► could say with certainty that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► apps that do it wrong and the door right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► and we can argue about which is with but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► like there is such a variation and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► it'll turn out that something like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► Final Cut does is totally the right way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► to do it which is you got sliders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► you know you're you're intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► using it like that like the DJ app on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► stage right and maybe you know if I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► to choose I would guess that maybe we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► gonna back off of that and say actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► what we saw with DJ in Photoshop what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► see with final cut pro is maybe too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► too intense too much of a UI instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► a set of shortcuts you know and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► and maybe will back off of that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► not maybe i'll turn out that UI is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► people love and it's having that surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► there is the best thing in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► old but my gut feeling is that it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► that's a big that's a big step to go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► I'm not sure that's the right approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► but i'm sure people at Apple were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► debating it too and it doesn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4138">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► be one of the other I mean it right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► and right now it isn't in fact my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► biggest Christian final cut is more that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► it's so complicated that it seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► not customizable in any way and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► that's for me the fact that they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► back to this classic like from 10-point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► Oh customize toolbar interface to cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► let people customize the touch bar i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► really like that because I it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► personal you should be putting the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► on it that you care about the most and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► don't know how many people do that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► I'm glad that that's there and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► customizable I worried that it wasn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► mean the next step should probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► able to make the left third parties have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► access to control strip yeah that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► thing at a time and i really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► customization feels exactly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► customizing the toolbar in a window and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► we're gonna cocoa app it's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► you know it's by design and it's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► surprise but it really just goes to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► that the people who wrote these api's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► are you know knew what they were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► and they did it the right now and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► you know it doesn't always say when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► show these things on stage and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► asked afterward i'm sure they do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► same to you like what what what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► think a lot of it's like well look good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► let's see what the details are and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► I first customize the toolbar I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► wow ok good like they did a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► job like I had this whole worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► how do you use like you move the cursor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► to the bottom of the screen and it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► disappears and suddenly you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► selection in a toolbar but you in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► touch bar but you don't see your cursor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► anymore but it's still sort of there as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► a ghost and you can move it around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► then if you move it back up it pops back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► out on the bottom of your display I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► how are they gonna do that and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► used it was like well it makes perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► sense like they nailed it they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► really did figure out a way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► where you never feel like suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► you're pointing device is gone into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► different parallel universe and nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► makes sense anymore like it all held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► together and I'm impressed by by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► good kind of care that they took with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► but I appreciate so when you go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► edit mode the buttons that are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► jiggle it's a little similar to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► very similar and it clearly drawn from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► the home screen customization and iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► where if you want to move your apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► around in iOS you know you hold the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► button and you go into the mode and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► your apps Google it's a good way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► playing off something people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► familiar with I feel like that that idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► but wait if you're going to put him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► reorder mode make them you know jiggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► around but what I really like is that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► me i think is it feels just slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► more of us of a serious jiggle then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► iOS jiggle like the iOS one to move more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► or less in a goofy way and the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► twist yeah they twist and the mac was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► just kind of go back and forth and I may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► be part of that is that it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► horizontal maybe they you know but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► think they could have made him twist if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► they wanted to even if it made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► corners you know go off the the top it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► just feels more appropriate to the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► in a way that the mac is is is a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► serious platform than iOS I do like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► I mean that's one of the things I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► mind you that you quit that you quoted I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► always always have a moment like it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► junk it links to me what what part we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► quote i'm and and that one was without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► it's just it's a reporting a true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► feeling I had which is this has more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► personality than I thought it would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► the ANA it has a lot of animations i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► think if you just read about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► feature you would not imagine that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► everything animates and like the touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► ID sensor when it comes on there is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► arrow and the arrow like stretches like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► it's made a rubber as it points at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► touch ID sensor and it is i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► not wacky know but it is whimsical in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► way that it totally didn't need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► and and there's just little stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► that that I think you know that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► there is personality here it isn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► this kind of gray we gave we made you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► toolbar enjoy it's like a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► more enthusiastic and and and I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► that I like that it's got person to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► so that touch here to login with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► know touch ID and then it and the arrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► you know stretching it that to me feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► right for the mac and it should be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► would it should be if they did something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► yeah I think that's right Horace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► acquitted this thing that horse did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► wrote a week or two ago where he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► wrote a piece about see if i can find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► I did too but you know where's Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► going with the Macintosh and you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► an analogy about you know why isn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► maca touchscreen and i'll put the link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► again in the show notes so anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► hasn't read it can do it where for art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► though mcintosh but he wrote and see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► on the role of being the future he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► talking about the mac that belongs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► the touch screen devices it will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► more him into a touchscreen device any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► more than a tech a teens parent will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► become cool by putting on skinny jeans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► what it will do is become better at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► it is hired to do i'll put a link in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► show notes is i promise i'm doing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► now copying pasting them so infamous for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► saying i put something under here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► copy paste there it is very well done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► the UH it's great i mean i wrote a piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► about the same time called like parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► falar perpendicular philosophy yes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► it's the same things like why does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► touchscreen things and everybody's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► oh god I can't believe apples not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► and it's like well number one reason is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4498">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► Apple already has a touchscreen OS so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► what happens doing is differentiating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► you're saying and and this can be hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► for Mac users to hear although i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► mind it's like the mac is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► classic computing metaphor that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► makes and you can't push it too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► because it becomes an iPad or an iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► then and they've already got that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► they don't need to do a touchscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► tablet like they have a touchscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► tablet already so the mac has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► defined by some fundamental premises and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► apple and again you could debate it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► Microsoft's doing the right thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► what Apple has decided and they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► this again again they said it publicly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► repeatedly is the max for traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► computing with a pointing device and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► the case of a laptop is very clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► it's two perpendicular surfaces but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► even true on the desktop you've got your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► keyboard tray or the bottom of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► laptop and that's the control surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► and it's got the keys and it's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► touch bar maybe and it's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► trackpad and then it you got the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► and this stuff happens on the screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► you control it from the from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► perpendicular surface that's in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► you and if you would rather directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► manipulate with your hands that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► that's not what a mac is max aren't for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► yeah I add this adult with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► becoming it cool by putting on skinny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► teen jeans is the best as it's the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► metaphor I've yeah a lot of I I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► I decided think of it he did but it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► and to me the way that it is it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► Apple has adopted some of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► like the animation for that arrow is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► exactly the same way where it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► trying to be iOS it's not trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► you know it's doing it in a Macintosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► way and i have to say personally on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► flip side I got to spend i spent like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► half an hour in a microsoft store when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► was in san francisco last month for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► apple event and they had a the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► I don't know what they call it surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► the road studio yes service studio had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► couple of them set up and a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► of apps like photoshop and and and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► and there wasn't you know it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► wasn't that crowded there actually I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► not making fun of them for having for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► supper and crowded there was actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► line for people to try out the VR thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► they had set up so there was a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► there that was drawing a crowd of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► seemed to me like at least 10 people at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► a time constantly waiting to try the VR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► think so there is something there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► is drawing people in the store but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► the surface wasn't so I got to play with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► it and I old person trying to dress like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► a teenager is exactly that it's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► than anything I could say I had other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► complaints about like the latency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► compared to the Apple pencil on ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► Microsoft is it you know definitely did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► some work on that but it was not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► Apple pencil but the weirdest part was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► the way that that just exactly what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► would think like having a mouse based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► interface but then using touch and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► pencil to do things was weird like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► all of a sudden as your pencil gets near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► you see a cursor on screen right beneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► it and it's like weird you know i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► like i'm using it's not that much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► than one of those airport terminals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► where you get your boarding pass and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► every time you touch the screen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► windows mouse cursor moves to where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► touch it it it just feels like old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► person dressing like a teenager is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► exactly i get it i can't think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► anything better than that and i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► just bring a guest break my heart to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► Apple do that to the mac i guess the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► one thing that that I if I extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► horses men metaphor a little bit is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► is possible for something theoretically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► for something like windows to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► like a chrysalis and like turn into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► I mean they could evolve windows to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► point where it is a touch interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► the problem is they've got everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► who's using Windows PCs and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► wanna you know they don't have a they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► tried it right they tried it with with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► metro and with the their arm based stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► and in the end the the they retreated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► back to the power of their successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► windows platform and they've made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► better but like they have one operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► system and they can change the context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► but it's one operating system and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► are challenges with that and I don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► unsolvable they may be solvable but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► like I i'm not saying that fundamentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► microsoft is right or wrong or Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► right or wrong but if you look at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► the assets of both companies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► Microsoft has this incredibly successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► desktop operating system traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► computer operating system and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► haven't done anything in mobile so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► do you do to get to to approach sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► like the mobile world and the touch base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► world you gotta take windows and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► gotta jam it in there and if your Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► you got the mac you get iOS they're fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► you don't need to do that so they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► going to do that and so when people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► you know one of them is right and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► that may well be i'm not quite sure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► I think it may be a much more kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► shades of grey situation depends on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► use cases and who knows where we'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► in five or ten years but i would i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► argue both companies are doing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► makes sense for them because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► Microsoft has the assets it has an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► is very apple is extremely fortunate in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► fact they're basically the only company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► in the world who has a very successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► touch-based operating system and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► traditional computer operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► and so they don't need a gym together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► they can just keep them apart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► everybody like us who's like I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► mac i want to keep using the mac they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► not going to make a Mac that's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► unrecognizable because at that point why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► wouldn't you just use a pc or or switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► and use an iPad so the you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► Apple has the luxury of doing that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► it makes perfect sense that that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► they're doing and i also will say that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► found Windows 10 running on the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► to call again the studio service to do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► just going between apps and navigating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► the system and it it there i found it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► honestly found it confusing and part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► it is just that I haven't used windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4856">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► yeah but it's very I'm all my windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► skills were really good up to a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► and then they windows has evolved enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► now because I've got windows 10 online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► my imac and boot camp and Windows has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► evolved to the point where all my old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► windows skills which were pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► are just useless now I I'm no idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► so that doesn't help that it but i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► say that i've spent time few years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► with like when the original surfaces and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► I didn't find those confusing at all now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► I didn't really love the whole idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► where you can go into traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► Windows mouse mouse pointer mode right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► and run your traditional Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► software and you go into this other mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► touch-based but I got it because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► metro thing was clear like oh these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► big chunky touch targets and and instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► of tiled windows they're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► they're going on more of a 2d thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► you swipe side to side and this is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► know all new and everything is big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► you know big thump sizable touch targets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4916">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► now and if i want to run my you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► Mike you know Microsoft Excel i switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► to this other mode and it looks exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► like Excel I know exactly where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► going to mouse right yeah I I i guess i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► can see why they went away from that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► why people rejected it but it it made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► way more sense to me to go that way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► I think part of it was like understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► offski they clearly wanted to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► they had the the army base surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► tablets that only had the metro mode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► I really feel like that's where some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► them the ones who have good taste in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► Microsoft wanted to go like good taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► in the animal sense and it was a much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► me a much more compelling device and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► think it only failed because it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► get developers support that developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► kept the old classic you know windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► win32 API apps so i was i was at the d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► conference when they did that demo the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► first of the first time and i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► seeing all the metro stuff and thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► you know with the original surface and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► thinking damn that is really good Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► here comes microsoft you know everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► watch out and then they did that moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► they're like and if you want to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► instead of showing what I expected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► touch-based office like officer ipad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► today and they're like boom now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► in the Windows desktop and you plug in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► mouse and a keyboard and you have a pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► and I thought no no no I remember you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► know what i wrote a piece you wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► piece about it and we were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► it and so do you so close and I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► believe like the right thing to do was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► from microsoft microsoft to say we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► taken all our knowledge of windows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► we have built a touch-based operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► system that will you know it's related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► and steve ballmer wants to call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► windows something we'll call it that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► it's different and the windows RT was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► like that but it was like already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► compromised and half-hearted like they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► already kind of sold it out that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► said given the strength of apple and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► and google in mobile operating systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► and what has happened with all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► Microsoft's attempts to make just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► I'm not really convinced now that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► if they had done what I think would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► been the best product that anybody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► have bought it because they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► leveraged any of their or much of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► strength which was windows to get people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► on board so they be starting from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► scratch like they did with Windows Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► yeah and so you know i think it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► have been a way out a way better product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► but I I think feel like by the time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► got to metro and making that demo the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► ship it kind of sailed already i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► it was the right way too bad because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► was cool yeah i think it was the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► from a design perspective but it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► perspective it's just wasn't going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► I don't know that there's anything they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► could have done to make metro better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► just better in terms of if we had done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► better job designing it if we've done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► better job making the initial set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► apps it would have succeeded i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► don't think it i don't think it failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► because it wasn't good enough i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► yeah yeah and it's it's tough because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► you look at microsoft and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► Microsoft Microsoft ambition was that of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► a dominant operating system vendor but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► their position was that of a newcomer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► essentially because you know android and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► iOS gobble battle market up very quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► they were left kind of with not a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► lot like they weren't there in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► the blackberry camp down and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► receiving votes were these people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► five percent of the market and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► tough that's a tough position to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► I don't you know I i love a lot of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► Microsoft's doing now but it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► still a tough position to be in because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► they do need to be windows and try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:35 ◼ ► innovate and you know i know a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5135">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► people especially creative people people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► who use pen input all the time on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► mac with a with a tablet and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► people who really kind of going ape over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► the over the surface studio and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► I'm so it didn't really throw me and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► fact when I looked at it I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5156">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► would much i think i would much rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5158">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► have a in desktop ipad yeah but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► what i will say this i did I if you draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► for a living I don't know if you draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► comics if you are an architect or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► something like that I can totally see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► how the city so yeah tablet is a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► for you but I'd I don't want to pry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► don't see any reason to like that device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► if you're not if you're not someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► makes a living with a pen in your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► and the funny thing and the enemy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► there's this is part of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► coming back to people being grumpy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► Apple about various things it's like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► of the things that seems like yeah if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► you're cartoonist or a comic book artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► or or anybody who is who is using these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► certain kind of inputs there's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► be a class of user for whom the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► studio is the perfect computer and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► know what a lot of those people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► going to be loyal mac users and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► gonna they're gonna feel torn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► they're gonna feel like Apple has left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► let them down a little bit because Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► isn't providing them with that same kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► of product and all of those feelings are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► valid but I would also say it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► valid for Apple to say we're never going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► to make a product like that like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► not how big how big a market is that how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► many how many surface studios are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5224">TS</a>]
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01:28:13 ◼ ► and have a talk with he wrote a blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5293">TS</a>]
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01:34:04 ◼ ► I was 10 in the ways that the interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► is not as good as the classic mac OS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► control strip is one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► where it was so perfectly Mac like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► pixel of it was perfectly it of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► that things were supposed to look in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► that OS and just everything for doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► the close button the little the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► zipper thing that you would just tap to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► make it expand and contract that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► everything about it was so nice and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► was so elegant and it felt so right for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► the mac system-wide that you just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► this little thing and then you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► eventually you could drag it around to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► any corner didn't have to be in a corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► I think it had to be a corner right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► no it could be it could be anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► learning either somewhere along the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► or right and you'd zip it open and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► get all these little icons and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► opened it up to third parties and third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► parties did some really useful stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► like the mac equivalent Mac os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5697">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► equivalent of it is all these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► turd icons in the top-right of our men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► toolbars or the menu bar menu bar you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► still got them all those my cards were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► there in the old Mac OS that those would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► all be control strip items and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► menubar would only have menus and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► anything else would be in a control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► it bothers me i will end 15 years later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► that we don't we don't we had something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► so elegant as the control strip and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► we've put all these terms and our menu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► I wonder if bartender this bartender let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► I wonder about that like this bartender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► is kind of like that where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► actually pull things out of the menu bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► and put them in a little bartender bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► yeah you can I think you can move it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► around hmm i look at that i looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► bartender remember looking at years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► and for some reason and rejected it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:58 ◼ ► maybe I should take another look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5758">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► yeah I don't know it's it's not i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► its hat its kind of hacky although it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► got some things going forward i use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► to clean up my menu bar because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► some items that I don't need to see most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► of the time but I can't really need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► get to it but it's it's in the ballpark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► right and the idea there is could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► imagine pulling all of the stuff off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► in this little little bar that that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► talk somewhere else so you pop up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► somewhere else and yeah we just I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► the answer is screen real estate is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► that in the control strip was designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► to be very small when collapsed and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► you pop it open to get to the UI and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► floated above everything and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► turn off appletalk or do whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► need to do or connect via PPE to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► Internet in the dial-in with your modem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► and then you and then you snap it closed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► in the end it just is a little this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► little tiny thing in the corner and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► you're done and now we've got these huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► monitors and they just littered with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► menu bar I demand the top but yea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► control trip was great it was it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► unsung hero of the sort of latter-day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► classic mac OS yeah really was and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► so it started on laptops to and then was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► so popular they they brought it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► desktop to every computer even though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► started on powerbook I i haven't I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:09 ◼ ► that I had asked while I was talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5829">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► people from apple but I I can't help but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► think that they named the new thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► coincidence that it's you know I built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► by people who remember deal with because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► it's so similar in concept the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► zips open from the song yeah I mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► it to them I was like that's a familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► name and like yeah we knew we knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► yeah you know some of you guys would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► notice that we reuse the name and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► know it's it's uh it's a cute reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► like I think that's what they were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► for was those in the know it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► know apples aware of all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► that has the intellectual you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► property in the trademark for and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► was a name that they had and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► doing a similar job and so they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► him and it just adds similar character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► you know just the way that it animates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► anything else on the macbook pros I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► have 1i guess broad topic about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► anything you want to talk about with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► I don't know I I mean it's the other big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► mentioned touch bar we mentioned touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► ID the other big thing about him is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► port's em and I feel sort of talked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► about it because we've been talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► about it since the macbook came out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► year ago and almost two years ago now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► and certainly in the last month since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► the apple event and I'm kind of over it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► everybody buys adapters there's a period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► where everybody's got the adapters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► has old hardware and then eventually it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► goes away and I think USBC invulnerable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► three is like a good direction to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► and the only way you get there is by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► going through a transition so here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► are and you know I I don't know if I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► I i I'm kind of drained of outrage or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► something like that because i do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► it's superior in almost every way every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► time I try to plug something into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► orientation wrong and have to flip it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► over and peer into the port to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► I think well USBC dependable three solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► this is dumb and so you know I i get i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► get people complaining about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► there right to complain about it but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► the same time I feel like in the long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► run it's going to be it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► great and I'm gonna miss magsafe um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► will but at the same time I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► also cool that you can on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5969">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► touch bar models you can plug in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► mac on either side that is great that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► it's so many yeah there are so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► times where it's at the worst is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► you're far enough away from the power or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► it would fit to the right but not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► yeah it's just the but there's other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► times we just don't want to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► drape it around the outside where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► just is inelegant like I'm in one case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► for me it was an east coaster is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► sometimes if you're on the acela on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:01 ◼ ► United on the East Coast train amtrak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6001">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► acela you can get there's some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► cool seats that have a table in between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► them but you're facing people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► other side and the tables are relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► as you might expect there it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► very wide table you know you're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► close but you have enough space were two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► people back to back can you know put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► their laptops you no fair you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► easily but if you wanted to stretch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► power around the other side it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► know you can do it but it it so be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► much easier if you could always just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► plug it in on the side closest to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► yeah yeah so it's again i get i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► people's complaints about it maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► just a little jaded because I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► all before it's like yes everybody will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► complain yes it will be a pain yes we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► will need adapters then we'll get over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► it and then in a few years we'll look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► back and think wow I can't believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► we use that I this stuff so much bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► link to a couple of examples from like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► four years ago macbook pros and they it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► word-for-word you didn't even have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► like edit out like it you know one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► know the name of the port they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► just be like to have you know not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► ports too thin not you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► eight exactly word for word what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► are saying about these i also believe i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► have written about this too but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► believe firmly that Apple's aggressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► traditional not just in this case with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:26 ◼ ► the going all USBC Thunderbolt three but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6086">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► they've you know that they've done this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► so many times in the past that it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► brings about the future we're being all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► sooner than if they had stuck a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► of legacy ports on on the devices if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► they put it you know old school USB and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► one old Thunderbolt or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► that in I firmly I can't prove it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► is no way to prove it without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► ability to take a fork the universe in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► but in the alternate universe where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► these new MacBook Pros have like a USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► port and a Thunderbolt port I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► what other ports people still wish they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► had but alright SD card reader or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► something like that i really believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► it's less of a it's less of a USBC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► oh sure I mean I I think I it's only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► matter of degrees because you I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► you made this point on daring fireball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► which is if you have legacy ports you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► have no motivation to switch because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► can just keep using your legacy port but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► once you've switched and you have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► more of the old ports then there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► longer any point in buying anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► using the old ports and you move to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► new ports and that and then you move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► and and it the longer you leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► bridge and apples done that in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► where they left the bridges and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► done it with a rip the band-aid off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► I this time they decided to rip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► band-aid off and i I'm I'm okay with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► in fact the people that I I have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► most sympathy for are probably like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► photographers and videographers who use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► that SD card slot and I totally get why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► it is a pain to have to go from having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► no reader to having a reader as somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► I didn't have a slide haha i already had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► already felt that pain but I get it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► totally get that say I get that one too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► I i do get it and it speaks to how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► useful the s2 built in SD slot is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► serious photographers that Apple did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► ever in the first place because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► least appellee thing that they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► yes it's just like since they put s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► video on the Macintosh yeah like why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► this 40 right it has to be if it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► underrated it really it's it the SD card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► slot on max is the return of the floppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► drive i mean its way you know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► know thousands of times faster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► thousands of you know times more storage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► but it's you know the floppy drive it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► isn't police Tapley thing I know so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► I eat the fact that it's so useful is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► the reason they did it in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► place but the fact that they removed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► is because the reason why it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► Apple was the first company to remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► the floppy drive right although i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► just bought for experimenting for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► podcasting stuff I bought an SD card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► that does Wi-Fi it's not the ID by it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► a it's a toshiba i think one and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► pretty good you know it's again not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► perfect but i can see apple's philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► here to of saying you know you can get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► card reader and then there are also new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► wireless technologies in in the SD cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► in the cameras the another there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► other ways to transfer this stuff or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► bring a cable and attach your camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► direct you know it's not but I i get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► i like I get why why that's a bit major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► inconvenience because that was their you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► know their storage medium of choice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6297">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► now it's gone I totally get it that said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► that there's still a fair number i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► realized SD is the most popular size but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► there's still a number people shooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► card and there's other cameras that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► did use the supermicro almost like sim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► cards size SD card right super time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► yeah and then with them you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► bring an adapter you know usually it's i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► think most people probably used there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► SD standard SD card sized adapters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► you slide it in and then you put into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► your still you know it wasn't an ideal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► world and i feel like the world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► everything just works wirelessly and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► airdrop things equivalent of airdrop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► whether it's actually officially drop or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► not but just you know a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► from your standalone camera to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► macbook it's gonna come quicker now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► the SD card is not in Macintosh's yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► I think that's true but i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:56 ◼ ► maybe they'll be a little longer of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6356">TS</a>]
01:45:58 ◼ ► pain the pain transition will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6358">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► little different there than for like us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:02 ◼ ► getting stuff but i just think back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6362">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► like you know the imac throughout their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► cereal ADB and and scuzzy all in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► throw for four USB and this is this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► little bit like that I guess the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► thing i want to talk about is it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► whole the the people arguing that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► aren't pro devices that ok they're nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► it's nice enough but it's not a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► device because it's not the fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► intel mobile chipset it's not the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► that I don't get into the details but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► Apple wants to use the low-energy ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► and they'll use it with by wanting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:40 ◼ ► use the low-energy ram their limited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6400">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► 16 gigabytes right now that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► change soon enough i get i would bet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► 2017 there will be an update to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:49 ◼ ► macbook pros that support at least 32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6409">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► gigabytes of RAM I don't know if it go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:54 ◼ ► to 64-bit will be at least 6 32 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6414">TS</a>]
01:46:58 ◼ ► there's people who would want just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6418">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► name one thing that they would rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► have apple build a at least as an option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► another level of macbook pro that I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► has a better graphics card a higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► energy that ram that that would support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► up to 32 or more gigabytes of RAM even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► and would rather have a significant hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► on battery life but a performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► improvement and they'll just plug it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► or you know get less battery life why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► wont Apple build that machine and let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► them buy it yeah I'm i guess i get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:38 ◼ ► although i think your Apple you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6458">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► what the sweet spot of your market is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► and you know who's buying these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► and and again it sucks if you are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► person who's in the corner of the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► that is small but you're in it so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► super important to you and apple look 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► goes are we really going to solve are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6477">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► gonna build one reference sort of design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► for the macbook pro and it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► cater to two percent of our market or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► four percent of our market are we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► going to do that and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► customer not everybody needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:13 ◼ ► targeted customers not always right not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6493">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► everybody needs to be targeted and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:16 ◼ ► stinks if you're in that in that area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6496">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► that we're apples like look you agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:20 ◼ ► just gonna have to suffer because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6500">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► not going to build this product we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► have to make major changes in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► build this product so that it would also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► overlap your needs so I get that I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► think though Apple knows about the march [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► of time and the market technology and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► in so many of these apple product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► designs they're kind of looking ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► and maybe some of that is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► expected more from Intel that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► maybe that can help but i also think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah and I i have this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► talk about next year's like yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► think Apple would use its influence with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► intel maybe to say how about a 32 gig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► can you work on that because we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► enclosure with the same power profile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► and all of that next year stuff is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► to be able to do way more than this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► stuff and the year after that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► this this this model will probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► the same one that we see in terms of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:12 ◼ ► shape of it and the touch bar and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6552">TS</a>]
01:49:15 ◼ ► that this is probably also the 2018 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6555">TS</a>]
01:49:17 ◼ ► macbook pro and the 2019 macbook pro on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6557">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► I think side and every year they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► going to have more capabilities fitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► in this small K so this is the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► where it's kind of a tough ask and next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► year will be better and and that's again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► stinks if you're not in there now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► I have no arguments for you yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► I think you know you have to think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► keep thinking about it from like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► marketing perspective product marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► perspective is that Apple has three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► slots for macbooks for families of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► macbooks and they you know they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► their gradients that blend between them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:53 ◼ ► at price points you know where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6593">TS</a>]
01:49:55 ◼ ► like a hundred dollar at every hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6595">TS</a>]
01:49:57 ◼ ► dollars from like 999 up to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6597">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► four thousand dollars almost you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► there's configurations that you can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► but fundamentally there's the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:07 ◼ ► cheap in other words price is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6607">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► biggest concern and that is the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► air and it has been for the last few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:13 ◼ ► years the whole entire reason the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6613">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► macbook air is still being sold is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:18 ◼ ► hit the 999 starting price point right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6618">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► it's like the old plastic macbook was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► back in the day before it got eclipsed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► by the magic you know I forgot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► this the last time you were on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► the last time you were on the show back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► in August we were talking about macbooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► speculating about what we're now talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:33 ◼ ► about nine site and you did something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6633">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► about the macbook pro being the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► selling mac and yeah that was totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► everybody said no no it's like I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:43 ◼ ► somebody because the prices so right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6643">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► it worked weird weird to me and you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► thinking too much about people like us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► and really I heard from a couple people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► who work in apple retail stores and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► they're like you just cannot even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► believe how many people when they come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► in to get a new mac it's it and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6658">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► you know and they can you can you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► they say kids dealing with them and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► know these apple the people who work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► the source of various it's very clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► that these people just you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► want to get a mac they're definitely you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► know you can tell they're gonna buy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:11 ◼ ► but they're not definitely there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6671">TS</a>]
01:51:13 ◼ ► doubt they're going to get the air it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6673">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► just a question of which one because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► know about a hundred dollars is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► more they're gonna spend and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► about and I'm an imac I macbook areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► that are right I i haven't used macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► pro in years so for me I think i got i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► was too busy focusing on like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► flagship and the one that's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:29 ◼ ► probably the biggest profit margin right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6689">TS</a>]
01:51:32 ◼ ► right but that's not the same as I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6692">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► and that's why that 999 13-inch non-red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:37 ◼ ► air is still there right because that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6697">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► that is priced to move and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► price that gets you into a mac laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:43 ◼ ► and it's a pretty you know what it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6703">TS</a>]
01:51:45 ◼ ► pretty good system it's pretty it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6705">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► power and price it really is even today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► people who are thinking of the old pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► industry in a way that everything every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► six to eight months you'd you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► put new chips and you know everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:56 ◼ ► would get faster and he'd always be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6716">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► know swapping out in a way that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6718">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► macbook air is effectively unchanged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► the prices unchanged prices and going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► down there keeping it in 99 it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► because people keep buying them it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:09 ◼ ► best-selling device and they don't mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6729">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► people don't mind it fast enough for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► them so you know you could say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:15 ◼ ► Apple is under like some kind of moral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6735">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► obligation to you know cut the Pricer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► you know but it's you know business-wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:23 ◼ ► you know that's it doesn't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6743">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► it's a very popular device and it exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► just to hit that price point then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:29 ◼ ► there's the macbook pro which is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6749">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► now it's the same size there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► argument in size or weight between a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:36 ◼ ► 13-inch macbook pro in a macbook air it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6756">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► is just you know if you want to say pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► it's really you know like I I emphasize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► the word nice in my review its the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► macbook nice in our the macbook premium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► if you want to call it it is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:49 ◼ ► it's there in every single regarded as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6769">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► nicer faster as the retina screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► now it has a super bright red screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6776">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► then in between is the macbook then in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6778">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► light which you know that's what now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► called the macbook 10 years ago or eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► years ago was the macbook air and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► still pay a pretty penny a premium for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► the thinnest and lightness and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► niceness and it has a Retina screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► it just it's just it's just sexy right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:18 ◼ ► mean that's just it is like the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6798">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► convertible sports car right it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► really really i was in a meeting i'm on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► this panel at Drexel University that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► meets like once a year like it its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:31 ◼ ► alumni advisors in this thing and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6811">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► would be able to meet I don't go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► meetings very often and we just had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► meeting and there is a guy who had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► the you know the current macbook and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:42 ◼ ► i could think is a goddamn that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6822">TS</a>]
01:53:44 ◼ ► nice that is a nice-looking laptop I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6824">TS</a>]
01:53:46 ◼ ► don't it's not really for me right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6826">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► it's like I you know and I think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6828">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► you know you just typing emails on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► and it's like wow that is a nice thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► is there room for something else like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6835">TS</a>]
01:53:58 ◼ ► that would be yeah this isn't my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6838">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► proposed marketing name but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:02 ◼ ► macbook max for the macbook the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6842">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► the power mac book pro or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► whatever you want to call it something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► that trades battery life and maybe some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► thinnest and wait for sheer computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► well it's the equivalent I mean it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:21 ◼ ► slot that they haven't had for a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6861">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► while because if you think about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► areas like the plastic macbook and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► macbook is where the areas to be macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► pro is still sort of where it was and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► in terms of 13 and 15 and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► this lot that used to be like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► lunge a right the cafeteria for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:40 ◼ ► 17-inch macbook pro and they just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6880">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► make that computer anymore but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► and and i think this is a lot of the pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► fear about Apple is that laptop doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:54 ◼ ► exist and the mac pro basically doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6894">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► exist because it's been abandoned since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6896">TS</a>]
01:54:59 ◼ ► it was released three years ago and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6899">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► like what is this what does this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:05 ◼ ► mean does apple care about that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6905">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► market enough to make a product for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:10 ◼ ► or do pros have to kind of sneak out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6910">TS</a>]
01:55:12 ◼ ► their livelihood on computers that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6912">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► not really made for them because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:17 ◼ ► the best that Apple once not can offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6917">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► wants to offer is willing to offer and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► don't know i mean they totally could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► I'm a little surprised that they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6924">TS</a>]
01:55:25 ◼ ► take the old macbook pro and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6925">TS</a>]
01:55:28 ◼ ► something even more powerful in there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6928">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► the old enclosure and just say look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:32 ◼ ► we've got this thing that's got old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6932">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► ports and it's got its got the latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:35 ◼ ► Intel processors in the latest GPU and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6935">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► go to 10 and no touch bar and just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:41 ◼ ► also available you can max it out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6941">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► can load it up with stuff and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:46 ◼ ► really need it you can you can take I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6946">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► sympathize and I'm hearing from readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:49 ◼ ► and listeners and I see it and I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6949">TS</a>]
01:55:52 ◼ ► I don't think it's like an idle threat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6952">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► but I'm hearing from people saying I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:55 ◼ ► think i have to switch back to Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6955">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► you know because I I need to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6957">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► buy something and it's clear Apple isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:01 ◼ ► gonna make it for me and that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6961">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► advantage of its always been the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:04 ◼ ► advantage of the pc market place is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6964">TS</a>]
01:56:07 ◼ ► Apple's whole Apple has holes in its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6967">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► lineup and right now its hole is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:11 ◼ ► notebook that is optimized for let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6971">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► just say I was gonna say power but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:17 ◼ ► performance sheer performance the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6977">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► Ram Charan the fastest ships in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► fastest graphics they don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:23 ◼ ► they don't sell it and there are pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6983">TS</a>]
01:56:26 ◼ ► laptops that have you know the fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6986">TS</a>]
01:56:28 ◼ ► intel cpus and incredibly fast hot GPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6988">TS</a>]
01:56:33 ◼ ► sacrifice battery life and wait for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6993">TS</a>]
01:56:35 ◼ ► apple doesn't feel that the pic the hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6995">TS</a>]
01:56:38 ◼ ► in the pc market is in my opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/6998">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► niceness there's nothing you can buy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:42 ◼ ► the pc market that's as nice as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7002">TS</a>]
01:56:47 ◼ ► subjective obviously the difference in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7007">TS</a>]
01:56:49 ◼ ► that and it drives people some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7009">TS</a>]
01:56:50 ◼ ► not is you can measure performance you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7010">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► can go run a benchmark and come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:55 ◼ ► there's no benchmark for how nice the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7015">TS</a>]
01:56:57 ◼ ► machine is and how much I appreciate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7017">TS</a>]
01:56:59 ◼ ► new hinge when I lift open the thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7019">TS</a>]
01:57:02 ◼ ► I feel it in my gut and I believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7022">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► that's what you give up it's a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► that there are people who love mac o Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:09 ◼ ► os10 love the mac and but have the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7029">TS</a>]
01:57:12 ◼ ► their personal needs are such that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7032">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► want that machine because I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► apple is going to make right and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:19 ◼ ► yeah it's so easy to come across as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7039">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► not have be having sympathy for them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► not caring about them and I that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:29 ◼ ► how I feel at all but if your Apple you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7049">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► have to make a calculation about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:36 ◼ ► know first off there's all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7056">TS</a>]
01:57:38 ◼ ► what's the product we if they went down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7058">TS</a>]
01:57:40 ◼ ► this path and then realize that the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7060">TS</a>]
01:57:42 ◼ ► know that was going to limit them to 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7062">TS</a>]
01:57:43 ◼ ► gigs ram and they're like well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7063">TS</a>]
01:57:45 ◼ ► we thought until we come through with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7065">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► something different but they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:48 ◼ ► maybe that happened or maybe they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7068">TS</a>]
01:57:49 ◼ ► they decided 16 was good enough for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7069">TS</a>]
01:57:51 ◼ ► almost all cases what is the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7071">TS</a>]
01:57:55 ◼ ► people for whom the highest-end mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7075">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► what is that number what's the size of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:02 ◼ ► that market and who are those people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7082">TS</a>]
01:58:04 ◼ ► are they influential and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7084">TS</a>]
01:58:06 ◼ ► nada yeah and so you ask that you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7086">TS</a>]
01:58:10 ◼ ► have to buy something right now or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7090">TS</a>]
01:58:12 ◼ ► can they wait a year for something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7092">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► will be you know the better more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:16 ◼ ► efficient more powerful in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7096">TS</a>]
01:58:17 ◼ ► space and that's for me that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7097">TS</a>]
01:58:21 ◼ ► if Apple I'm sure Apple has done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7101">TS</a>]
01:58:23 ◼ ► calculation we know that Apple has very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7103">TS</a>]
01:58:26 ◼ ► smart product marketing and research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7106">TS</a>]
01:58:28 ◼ ► people and they look at this stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7108">TS</a>]
01:58:31 ◼ ► they've got access to data that we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7111">TS</a>]
01:58:32 ◼ ► because they are apple and my guess is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7112">TS</a>]
01:58:36 ◼ ► because these are the decisions they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7116">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► made that they looked at that and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:39 ◼ ► that market is not sufficiently large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7119">TS</a>]
01:58:42 ◼ ► enough the market were cutting off by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7122">TS</a>]
01:58:46 ◼ ► sufficiently large enough for us to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7126">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► make these decisions so we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:50 ◼ ► do it and maybe they're right and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7130">TS</a>]
01:58:53 ◼ ► they're wrong right maybe the wrong but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7133">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► if they're right it doesn't change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7135">TS</a>]
01:58:57 ◼ ► fact that there are lots of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7137">TS</a>]
01:58:58 ◼ ► potentially just not enough in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7138">TS</a>]
01:59:02 ◼ ► space we're gonna feel like apples and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7142">TS</a>]
01:59:04 ◼ ► in them and you know what Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7144">TS</a>]
01:59:06 ◼ ► abandoned them apples said look if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7146">TS</a>]
01:59:08 ◼ ► need 32 gigs of ram in your laptop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7148">TS</a>]
01:59:11 ◼ ► this kind of bent you know like I'm in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7151">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► real afm slack and and shahid Kamal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7154">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► Ahmad is in there and he's a he's a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:18 ◼ ► developer and he's I think he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7158">TS</a>]
01:59:20 ◼ ► buy one of these because he's also a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7160">TS</a>]
01:59:24 ◼ ► development now and he looks at this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7164">TS</a>]
01:59:25 ◼ ► Brianna was like this to you know do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7165">TS</a>]
01:59:28 ◼ ► she knows about game development Stefan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7168">TS</a>]
01:59:29 ◼ ► and they're like you know for for 3d and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7169">TS</a>]
01:59:34 ◼ ► VR and stuff like that this hardware is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7174">TS</a>]
01:59:38 ◼ ► it's like it and and for gaming it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7178">TS</a>]
01:59:40 ◼ ► certainly not good enough but Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7180">TS</a>]
01:59:41 ◼ ► made that decision for years now if like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7181">TS</a>]
01:59:44 ◼ ► we don't care if it's not good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7184">TS</a>]
01:59:45 ◼ ► for gaming we don't optimize for gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7185">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► so I guess what I'm saying is it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► could be that Apple's miscalculated here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:51 ◼ ► but it could also be that what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7191">TS</a>]
01:59:53 ◼ ► hearing is the the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7193">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► basically being told by Apple we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7196">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► that will satisfy you and apples not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:02 ◼ ► wrong to make that decision necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7202">TS</a>]
02:00:04 ◼ ► and they're definitely not wrong to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7204">TS</a>]
02:00:06 ◼ ► angry about it but it's not a sign that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7206">TS</a>]
02:00:08 ◼ ► this was a misfire that some people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7208">TS</a>]
02:00:11 ◼ ► going to buy a PC because Apple can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7211">TS</a>]
02:00:14 ◼ ► satisfy I think that it's also the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7214">TS</a>]
02:00:16 ◼ ► that apple wood designs to do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7216">TS</a>]
02:00:20 ◼ ► eliminates makes choices for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7220">TS</a>]
02:00:23 ◼ ► customers because they've truly believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7223">TS</a>]
02:00:25 ◼ ► that they know better and they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7225">TS</a>]
02:00:26 ◼ ► keep customers from making a mistake by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7226">TS</a>]
02:00:30 ◼ ► which i mean let's say you go into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7230">TS</a>]
02:00:32 ◼ ► apple store and in you know you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7232">TS</a>]
02:00:34 ◼ ► the money to spend and you want to buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7234">TS</a>]
02:00:37 ◼ ► the best macbook pro that you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7237">TS</a>]
02:00:40 ◼ ► for the best macbook located in case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7240">TS</a>]
02:00:42 ◼ ► they had a different name like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7242">TS</a>]
02:00:45 ◼ ► obviously there are some truly expert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7245">TS</a>]
02:00:49 ◼ ► users game developers like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7249">TS</a>]
02:00:50 ◼ ► people who really do know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7250">TS</a>]
02:00:52 ◼ ► yes I don't care finally get five hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7252">TS</a>]
02:00:54 ◼ ► of battery life instead of 10 i want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7254">TS</a>]
02:00:56 ◼ ► machine has this power I think Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7256">TS</a>]
02:00:58 ◼ ► know that there's other people who come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7258">TS</a>]
02:00:59 ◼ ► in and say well if this machine is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7259">TS</a>]
02:01:03 ◼ ► twenty-five hundred dollars in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7263">TS</a>]
02:01:05 ◼ ► other machine is twenty-five hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7265">TS</a>]
02:01:06 ◼ ► dollars and thicker and heavier but look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7266">TS</a>]
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02:01:10 ◼ ► ram that's clearly the better machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7270">TS</a>]
02:01:14 ◼ ► or maybe it's more expensive right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7274">TS</a>]
02:01:16 ◼ ► don't know but whatever if it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7276">TS</a>]
02:01:18 ◼ ► mistaken as being better in them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7278">TS</a>]
02:01:20 ◼ ► their mind but it isn't for them that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7280">TS</a>]
02:01:24 ◼ ► it's gigahertz extra gigahertz they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7284">TS</a>]
02:01:25 ◼ ► don't need that extra graphics that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7285">TS</a>]
02:01:27 ◼ ► don't need its battery life that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7287">TS</a>]
02:01:29 ◼ ► were would appreciate if they had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7289">TS</a>]
02:01:31 ◼ ► that it would be a mistake for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7291">TS</a>]
02:01:33 ◼ ► walk out of that store i think apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7293">TS</a>]
02:01:34 ◼ ► obviously it's not these macbook pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7294">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► are not the best hypothetical macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:39 ◼ ► pros from november 2016 for every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7299">TS</a>]
02:01:42 ◼ ► person but i think what Apple is it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7302">TS</a>]
02:01:46 ◼ ► think it's you know restating what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7306">TS</a>]
02:01:48 ◼ ► said what Apple's tried to do is make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7308">TS</a>]
02:01:50 ◼ ► the best machines for the most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7310">TS</a>]
02:01:52 ◼ ► and that keeps your mother and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7312">TS</a>]
02:01:55 ◼ ► from buying the wrong going the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7315">TS</a>]
02:01:59 ◼ ► yeah and and it's it's not to come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7319">TS</a>]
02:02:02 ◼ ► to like when the customer like myths we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7322">TS</a>]
02:02:05 ◼ ► have about companies succeeding or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7325">TS</a>]
02:02:07 ◼ ► failing based on keeping their customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7327">TS</a>]
02:02:13 ◼ ► it's not a you choose to make everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7333">TS</a>]
02:02:15 ◼ ► happy or you choose to make some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7335">TS</a>]
02:02:17 ◼ ► unhappy the truth is the choices you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7337">TS</a>]
02:02:19 ◼ ► make are going to make somebody unhappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7339">TS</a>]
02:02:20 ◼ ► in most cases and you get to choose who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7340">TS</a>]
02:02:23 ◼ ► you make unhappy and apple makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7343">TS</a>]
02:02:26 ◼ ► choices and now we'll have to live with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7346">TS</a>]
02:02:28 ◼ ► them and we'll see quite what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7348">TS</a>]
02:02:31 ◼ ► but it you know if if Apple views the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7351">TS</a>]
02:02:34 ◼ ► decisions about battery and about weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7354">TS</a>]
02:02:36 ◼ ► and about sighs and and says that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7356">TS</a>]
02:02:40 ◼ ► know ninety percent of our users care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7360">TS</a>]
02:02:42 ◼ ► about that stuff and one percent of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7362">TS</a>]
02:02:45 ◼ ► users care about this other thing then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7365">TS</a>]
02:02:47 ◼ ► you know I can see why they make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7367">TS</a>]
02:02:49 ◼ ► decision right and and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7369">TS</a>]
02:02:51 ◼ ► doesn't make it any more bitter if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7371">TS</a>]
02:02:54 ◼ ► you're somebody who's kind of on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7374">TS</a>]
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02:06:28 ◼ ► system and all those things but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7588">TS</a>]
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02:07:50 ◼ ► had something to do with it all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7670">TS</a>]
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02:13:17 ◼ ► you're right it's a little surprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/7997">TS</a>]
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02:13:35 ◼ ► for eight years and they decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8015">TS</a>]
02:13:36 ◼ ► build an archive and had to buy buy some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8016">TS</a>]
02:13:40 ◼ ► of their products on ebay order in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8020">TS</a>]
02:13:42 ◼ ► to get them back because they literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8022">TS</a>]
02:13:44 ◼ ► didn't have the mini office so i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8024">TS</a>]
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02:17:08 ◼ ► this is self-congratulatory you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8228">TS</a>]
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02:17:34 ◼ ► and make them available only at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8254">TS</a>]
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02:18:01 ◼ ► from someone at apple and the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8281">TS</a>]
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02:18:09 ◼ ► hypothetical was at one point maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8289">TS</a>]
02:18:11 ◼ ► plan and I think in that world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8291">TS</a>]
02:18:15 ◼ ► Apple made this exact book and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8295">TS</a>]
02:18:17 ◼ ► made it or maybe since it's apple sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8297">TS</a>]
02:18:21 ◼ ► it tab employees in that world i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8301">TS</a>]
02:18:25 ◼ ► these books would be going for over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8305">TS</a>]
02:18:28 ◼ ► thousand rounds out all hours maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8308">TS</a>]
02:18:29 ◼ ► fifteen hundred dollars on ebay yep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8309">TS</a>]
02:18:33 ◼ ► i think i have already added I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8313">TS</a>]
02:18:36 ◼ ► strangle Adam ink for ink paper paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8316">TS</a>]
02:18:39 ◼ ► the exact same book i think that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8319">TS</a>]
02:18:41 ◼ ► Apple made them exclusive to apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8321">TS</a>]
02:18:43 ◼ ► employees they would be seen they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8323">TS</a>]
02:18:44 ◼ ► be selling for maybe two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8324">TS</a>]
02:18:46 ◼ ► dollars on ebay until the market calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8326">TS</a>]
02:18:48 ◼ ► sure I i think that's the argument for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8328">TS</a>]
02:18:50 ◼ ► why you sell it why you selling to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8330">TS</a>]
02:18:51 ◼ ► anyone is is why create a scarce tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8331">TS</a>]
02:18:55 ◼ ► that means that somebody else makes an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8335">TS</a>]
02:18:59 ◼ ► eight-hundred-dollar profit on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8339">TS</a>]
02:19:01 ◼ ► thing that you made ye that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8341">TS</a>]
02:19:02 ◼ ► selling a world series ticket for 250 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8342">TS</a>]
02:19:06 ◼ ► knowing that it will immediately be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8346">TS</a>]
02:19:08 ◼ ► resold on ebay for a thousand dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8348">TS</a>]
02:19:10 ◼ ► it's like why would you let somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8350">TS</a>]
02:19:11 ◼ ► else do I like with printing books they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8351">TS</a>]
02:19:14 ◼ ► can but not print as many as they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8354">TS</a>]
02:19:16 ◼ ► but they can probably because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8356">TS</a>]
02:19:17 ◼ ► price print as many as it needs to meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8357">TS</a>]
02:19:20 ◼ ► demand and you know in a way that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8360">TS</a>]
02:19:23 ◼ ► with Hamilton tickets they can't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8363">TS</a>]
02:19:25 ◼ ► the theater bigger and even if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8365">TS</a>]
02:19:27 ◼ ► could make it bigger I seats wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8367">TS</a>]
02:19:29 ◼ ► good alright it you can't have Hamilton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8369">TS</a>]
02:19:31 ◼ ► in a NBA sized arena it's not the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8371">TS</a>]
02:19:35 ◼ ► experience so right and those actors can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8375">TS</a>]
02:19:38 ◼ ► only do seven shows that we exactly call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8378">TS</a>]
02:19:41 ◼ ► detective this is Rho we write much it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8381">TS</a>]
02:19:43 ◼ ► is that's all they can do two matinees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8383">TS</a>]
02:19:44 ◼ ► you know 69 performances in there right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8384">TS</a>]
02:19:47 ◼ ► there is cleared this scale is limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8387">TS</a>]
02:19:51 ◼ ► you know and so the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8391">TS</a>]
02:19:52 ◼ ► tickets you know on the second-hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8392">TS</a>]
02:19:56 ◼ ► exorbitant prices well that's the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8396">TS</a>]
02:19:58 ◼ ► supply-and-demand works when supplies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8398">TS</a>]
02:20:00 ◼ ► has a hard up a leather upper limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8400">TS</a>]
02:20:02 ◼ ► writes the alternative is you you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8402">TS</a>]
02:20:06 ◼ ► know if you're Hamilton the alternative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8406">TS</a>]
02:20:07 ◼ ► is you either you either build in a row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8407">TS</a>]
02:20:09 ◼ ► resellers you know you you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8409">TS</a>]
02:20:12 ◼ ► return to the theater for your money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8412">TS</a>]
02:20:13 ◼ ► back but you don't get to resell it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8413">TS</a>]
02:20:15 ◼ ► you raise the price or you just accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8415">TS</a>]
02:20:18 ◼ ► that somebody else is going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8418">TS</a>]
02:20:20 ◼ ► twice as much as you make on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8420">TS</a>]
02:20:22 ◼ ► product and you know Apple Apple so big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8422">TS</a>]
02:20:26 ◼ ► and there's so many people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8426">TS</a>]
02:20:27 ◼ ► interested in it that it did it totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8427">TS</a>]
02:20:29 ◼ ► makes sense for them to say why would we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8429">TS</a>]
02:20:32 ◼ ► make this and not let anybody who wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8432">TS</a>]
02:20:35 ◼ ► why would we do that so the more I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8435">TS</a>]
02:20:37 ◼ ► about it the more ok i am with it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8437">TS</a>]
02:20:39 ◼ ► still think the optics are bad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8439">TS</a>]
02:20:40 ◼ ► there's not people complain but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8440">TS</a>]
02:20:42 ◼ ► it's better than anything else they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8442">TS</a>]
02:20:44 ◼ ► could have done including not make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8444">TS</a>]
02:20:46 ◼ ► book like out i mean i'm gonna buy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8446">TS</a>]
02:20:52 ◼ ► I don't know I don't know I might get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8452">TS</a>]
02:20:54 ◼ ► the small one but I i want yeah I but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8454">TS</a>]
02:20:57 ◼ ► i'm a sucker for coffee table books i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8457">TS</a>]
02:21:01 ◼ ► I know I i own iconic I you know I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8461">TS</a>]
02:21:04 ◼ ► all those taschen ones about Kubrick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8464">TS</a>]
02:21:05 ◼ ► that were absolutely got wrenchingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8465">TS</a>]
02:21:09 ◼ ► yeah i'm a sucker it's a thing I yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8469">TS</a>]
02:21:14 ◼ ► and and i think there's yeah i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8474">TS</a>]
02:21:16 ◼ ► think when you put it in that context of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8476">TS</a>]
02:21:18 ◼ ► the big oversized expensive art book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8478">TS</a>]
02:21:20 ◼ ► it's not nearly as as ridiculous unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8480">TS</a>]
02:21:23 ◼ ► you want to use it as an example of sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8483">TS</a>]
02:21:26 ◼ ► of a cultural change racist emek failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8486">TS</a>]
02:21:28 ◼ ► at Apple which gets us back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8488">TS</a>]
02:21:30 ◼ ► inglot test right it's what you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8490">TS</a>]
02:21:33 ◼ ► can absolutely use it as a vehicle for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8493">TS</a>]
02:21:35 ◼ ► that if you want to but i'm kinda with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8495">TS</a>]
02:21:37 ◼ ► you if I'm okay with it i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8497">TS</a>]
02:21:41 ◼ ► it's definitely not what Steve Jobs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8501">TS</a>]
02:21:44 ◼ ► 2004 would do but my time he's gone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8504">TS</a>]
02:21:50 ◼ ► johnny is there and it might have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8510">TS</a>]
02:21:51 ◼ ► the Steve Jobs of of 2009 that the eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8511">TS</a>]
02:21:55 ◼ ► years day is an interesting to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8515">TS</a>]
02:21:57 ◼ ► jony ive's interview with wallpaper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8517">TS</a>]
02:21:59 ◼ ► I will have put in the wrench shownotes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8519">TS</a>]
02:22:01 ◼ ► already the eight-year quote though is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8521">TS</a>]
02:22:04 ◼ ► ambiguous because what if people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8524">TS</a>]
02:22:06 ◼ ► taking it as evidence that jobs aproved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8526">TS</a>]
02:22:08 ◼ ► to the book but it's not what he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8528">TS</a>]
02:22:10 ◼ ► started eight years ago is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8530">TS</a>]
02:22:11 ◼ ► collection of all old Apple equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8531">TS</a>]
02:22:14 ◼ ► right that there they found you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8534">TS</a>]
02:22:16 ◼ ► like they wanted to look at some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8536">TS</a>]
02:22:18 ◼ ► opener maybe who knows what it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8538">TS</a>]
02:22:19 ◼ ► maybe some of the old candy-colored imax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8539">TS</a>]
02:22:22 ◼ ► and they didn't have them all so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8542">TS</a>]
02:22:25 ◼ ► had it but still that goes to a poor a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8545">TS</a>]
02:22:27 ◼ ► point where jobs are still around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8547">TS</a>]
02:22:29 ◼ ► yeah and they were reversing his policy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8549">TS</a>]
02:22:31 ◼ ► which was don't think about the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8551">TS</a>]
02:22:32 ◼ ► I mean like can you imagine that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8552">TS</a>]
02:22:34 ◼ ► didn't have a bond apply Mac where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8554">TS</a>]
02:22:37 ◼ ► because actually it for that area is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8557">TS</a>]
02:22:39 ◼ ► your proof that Jobs changed because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8559">TS</a>]
02:22:40 ◼ ► when jobs first came back to apple in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8560">TS</a>]
02:22:42 ◼ ► 96-97 I guess was 97 one of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8562">TS</a>]
02:22:45 ◼ ► things he did is he found that they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8565">TS</a>]
02:22:46 ◼ ► a whole collection of all of this old no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8566">TS</a>]
02:22:49 ◼ ► idea yeah just like let's get rid of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8569">TS</a>]
02:22:51 ◼ ► you know it and they didn't want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8571">TS</a>]
02:22:52 ◼ ► dumpster they gave it to that that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8572">TS</a>]
02:22:55 ◼ ► even to a museum that's my favorite jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8575">TS</a>]
02:22:57 ◼ ► quote whatever MP it was I said get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8577">TS</a>]
02:23:01 ◼ ► and we sent that shit to Stanford guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8581">TS</a>]
02:23:06 ◼ ► just loved the whole thing i love i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8586">TS</a>]
02:23:08 ◼ ► the swearing i love the getaway like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8588">TS</a>]
02:23:10 ◼ ► it's got cooties it's just like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8590">TS</a>]
02:23:13 ◼ ► repellent to him that this company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8593">TS</a>]
02:23:15 ◼ ► was in the that was going into the dumps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8595">TS</a>]
02:23:17 ◼ ► had this whole thing that was like own a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8597">TS</a>]
02:23:21 ◼ ► monument to its greatness and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8601">TS</a>]
02:23:24 ◼ ► was his reflexive as you know get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8604">TS</a>]
02:23:27 ◼ ► away and they said the Stanford Madison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8607">TS</a>]
02:23:29 ◼ ► which brings me to and to me this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8609">TS</a>]
02:23:32 ◼ ► broad shark test is a sentiment I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8612">TS</a>]
02:23:35 ◼ ► seen several people who supported on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8615">TS</a>]
02:23:37 ◼ ► Twitter I best put by a genius like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8617">TS</a>]
02:23:43 ◼ ► jailbreaks sort of developers Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8623">TS</a>]
02:23:48 ◼ ► crofton Smith captain smith yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8628">TS</a>]
02:23:51 ◼ ► are his is take on Twitter was that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8631">TS</a>]
02:23:54 ◼ ► only the last 20 years says a lot this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8634">TS</a>]
02:23:56 ◼ ► is Ivy's part portfolio not apples my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8636">TS</a>]
02:23:59 ◼ ► impression is that his career is drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8639">TS</a>]
02:24:01 ◼ ► to a close and a lot of people this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8641">TS</a>]
02:24:03 ◼ ► isn't just because of the book i've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8643">TS</a>]
02:24:04 ◼ ► people say that ever since the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8644">TS</a>]
02:24:06 ◼ ► promotion to chief design officer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8646">TS</a>]
02:24:11 ◼ ► I forget the other guys named as the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8651">TS</a>]
02:24:15 ◼ ► know hardware and software designed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8655">TS</a>]
02:24:18 ◼ ► write under I've is Johnny I've checking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8658">TS</a>]
02:24:22 ◼ ► out and slowly fading away or is he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8662">TS</a>]
02:24:27 ◼ ► different ways I honestly can see it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8667">TS</a>]
02:24:29 ◼ ► I don't know this is something that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8669">TS</a>]
02:24:31 ◼ ► sometimes is you know it knowledgeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8671">TS</a>]
02:24:37 ◼ ► about internal workings that Apple is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8677">TS</a>]
02:24:38 ◼ ► am I don't rely I don't know anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8678">TS</a>]
02:24:41 ◼ ► has insight to it and I think part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8681">TS</a>]
02:24:43 ◼ ► is because Johnny I've operates in such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8683">TS</a>]
02:24:45 ◼ ► an isolated way within the company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8685">TS</a>]
02:24:47 ◼ ► he doesn't really interact directly with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8687">TS</a>]
02:24:50 ◼ ► a large number of people and never did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8690">TS</a>]
02:24:52 ◼ ► yeah he's in a secure Enclave one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8692">TS</a>]
02:24:54 ◼ ► I've heard i have heard that he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8694">TS</a>]
02:24:57 ◼ ► lately been X it checked out of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8697">TS</a>]
02:25:00 ◼ ► checked out i guess but not as directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8700">TS</a>]
02:25:02 ◼ ► involved with product design and that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8702">TS</a>]
02:25:07 ◼ ► architecture meaning mostly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8707">TS</a>]
02:25:12 ◼ ► obviously the spaceship campus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8712">TS</a>]
02:25:15 ◼ ► Andorra stores and use my work and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8715">TS</a>]
02:25:17 ◼ ► maybe my other a top-level executives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8717">TS</a>]
02:25:21 ◼ ► who has been working the most with I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8721">TS</a>]
02:25:25 ◼ ► is Angela Ahrendts with right i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8725">TS</a>]
02:25:30 ◼ ► wonder about the car right a unit for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8730">TS</a>]
02:25:32 ◼ ► while there the talk was that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8732">TS</a>]
02:25:33 ◼ ► going to make a car and they and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8733">TS</a>]
02:25:35 ◼ ► recalibrated that to making sense of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8735">TS</a>]
02:25:37 ◼ ► car and I have to wonder if that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8737">TS</a>]
02:25:39 ◼ ► little bit of a a hit for Jhonny I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8739">TS</a>]
02:25:43 ◼ ► because he is a car guy we know that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8743">TS</a>]
02:25:46 ◼ ► perhaps one of the reasons they went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8746">TS</a>]
02:25:48 ◼ ► down the path of making their own cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8748">TS</a>]
02:25:50 ◼ ► that Johnny I was excited about doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8750">TS</a>]
02:25:51 ◼ ► our design and it sounds like they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8751">TS</a>]
02:25:53 ◼ ► made the decision to back away from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8753">TS</a>]
02:25:55 ◼ ► too i think the idea that I've has has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8755">TS</a>]
02:25:58 ◼ ► conquered all all mountains there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8758">TS</a>]
02:26:03 ◼ ► more lands for him to conquer and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8763">TS</a>]
02:26:05 ◼ ► he you know is easing his way out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8765">TS</a>]
02:26:09 ◼ ► Apple is it certainly seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8769">TS</a>]
02:26:12 ◼ ► legitimate scenario i don't like you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8772">TS</a>]
02:26:15 ◼ ► don't really have any evidence i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8775">TS</a>]
02:26:16 ◼ ► heard people say that the the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8776">TS</a>]
02:26:18 ◼ ► inside Apple have that impression too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8778">TS</a>]
02:26:20 ◼ ► but it's not necessarily that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8780">TS</a>]
02:26:22 ◼ ► got more information than we do about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8782">TS</a>]
02:26:25 ◼ ► feels that way the keys he's eager eased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8785">TS</a>]
02:26:28 ◼ ► into a very different role or he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8788">TS</a>]
02:26:30 ◼ ► sort of fading away it absolutely this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8790">TS</a>]
02:26:33 ◼ ► book does feel like the Johnny I Vera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8793">TS</a>]
02:26:34 ◼ ► dissertation right now kind of thing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8794">TS</a>]
02:26:38 ◼ ► like here here it is here's the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8798">TS</a>]
02:26:40 ◼ ► that i did and and and then you step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8800">TS</a>]
02:26:44 ◼ ► away from that the other side of it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8804">TS</a>]
02:26:45 ◼ ► could be that he is the most influential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8805">TS</a>]
02:26:53 ◼ ► and that not he decreed that they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8813">TS</a>]
02:26:58 ◼ ► write a book and so they're supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8818">TS</a>]
02:27:00 ◼ ► happen like in a way that Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8820">TS</a>]
02:27:01 ◼ ► could decree yeah in a lot of things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8821">TS</a>]
02:27:05 ◼ ► know we're going to open star space-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8825">TS</a>]
02:27:08 ◼ ► facetime a paymaster I that Jony ive can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8828">TS</a>]
02:27:12 ◼ ► say we're gonna make a book and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8832">TS</a>]
02:27:14 ◼ ► means they're going to make a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8834">TS</a>]
02:27:15 ◼ ► whether other people object all and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8835">TS</a>]
02:27:17 ◼ ► here's my a number one example can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8837">TS</a>]
02:27:19 ◼ ► believe it took me 30 seconds to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8839">TS</a>]
02:27:20 ◼ ► of it it i clearly this is what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8840">TS</a>]
02:27:23 ◼ ► I don't know this nobody has ever told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8843">TS</a>]
02:27:25 ◼ ► me this who knows but i would bet my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8845">TS</a>]
02:27:30 ◼ ► twenty-thousand-dollar gold Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8850">TS</a>]
02:27:34 ◼ ► oh yeah and I know for I do know for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8854">TS</a>]
02:27:37 ◼ ► fact that there were some high-level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8857">TS</a>]
02:27:39 ◼ ► executives with an apple who thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8859">TS</a>]
02:27:41 ◼ ► that was nutty I never heard for a fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8861">TS</a>]
02:27:44 ◼ ► that it was Johnny I've himself who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8864">TS</a>]
02:27:46 ◼ ► wanted it but I know what I think and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8866">TS</a>]
02:27:49 ◼ ► think it's Johnny I've said I want I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8869">TS</a>]
02:27:51 ◼ ► always wanted to make a watch one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8871">TS</a>]
02:27:54 ◼ ► great materials that watches are made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8874">TS</a>]
02:27:56 ◼ ► out of his gold so I want to make gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8876">TS</a>]
02:27:57 ◼ ► Apple watch it kind of makes it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8877">TS</a>]
02:27:59 ◼ ► want to leave an apple product that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8879">TS</a>]
02:28:01 ◼ ► ever been made a or at least I actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8881">TS</a>]
02:28:04 ◼ ► appellate at least like any other Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8884">TS</a>]
02:28:06 ◼ ► product that's ever been made around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8886">TS</a>]
02:28:08 ◼ ► right it breaks it breaks your coca-cola [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8888">TS</a>]
02:28:11 ◼ ► technology rights it is indulgent I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8891">TS</a>]
02:28:15 ◼ ► don't know it but it makes me think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8895">TS</a>]
02:28:16 ◼ ► don't know that he I think that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8896">TS</a>]
02:28:19 ◼ ► possibly i'm not i'm not saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8899">TS</a>]
02:28:21 ◼ ► this is any you know Johnny I've might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8901">TS</a>]
02:28:22 ◼ ► be there for the next 15-20 years but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8902">TS</a>]
02:28:25 ◼ ► that he has assumed a jobs like role of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8905">TS</a>]
02:28:30 ◼ ► gets to do whatever he wants and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8910">TS</a>]
02:28:33 ◼ ► yeah but that his personality is such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8913">TS</a>]
02:28:35 ◼ ► and it's so different than Steve Jobs is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8915">TS</a>]
02:28:44 ◼ ► Howard Hughes like figure you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8924">TS</a>]
02:28:46 ◼ ► recluse in other other than appearing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8926">TS</a>]
02:28:50 ◼ ► a narrator into the product videos I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8930">TS</a>]
02:28:53 ◼ ► don't get well I don't get you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8933">TS</a>]
02:28:55 ◼ ► don't know whether that's true or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8935">TS</a>]
02:28:56 ◼ ► whether it really is just that he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8936">TS</a>]
02:28:58 ◼ ► stage fright and so he wants to be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8938">TS</a>]
02:28:59 ◼ ► video but he does seem to have fallen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8939">TS</a>]
02:29:01 ◼ ► into this role as their credibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8941">TS</a>]
02:29:05 ◼ ► right i mean he's there those Johnny I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8945">TS</a>]
02:29:08 ◼ ► videos went from we want Johnny to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8948">TS</a>]
02:29:11 ◼ ► explain things but he's terrible on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8951">TS</a>]
02:29:13 ◼ ► stage or he doesn't want to be onstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8953">TS</a>]
02:29:14 ◼ ► something like that right and so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8954">TS</a>]
02:29:17 ◼ ► going to make these videos and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8957">TS</a>]
02:29:18 ◼ ► going to narrate them but at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8958">TS</a>]
02:29:20 ◼ ► that that seems too especially since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8960">TS</a>]
02:29:24 ◼ ► that seems to have become instead like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8964">TS</a>]
02:29:26 ◼ ► Johnny brings the credibility let us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8966">TS</a>]
02:29:29 ◼ ► explain to you why what Apple does is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8969">TS</a>]
02:29:31 ◼ ► making all that were making all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8971">TS</a>]
02:29:32 ◼ ► right decisions and all the steps we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8972">TS</a>]
02:29:34 ◼ ► to go through and all the incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8974">TS</a>]
02:29:36 ◼ ► processes that we now use in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8976">TS</a>]
02:29:38 ◼ ► make this product right I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8978">TS</a>]
02:29:40 ◼ ► that's now his role is as this in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8980">TS</a>]
02:29:44 ◼ ► ways almost like a like an icon or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8984">TS</a>]
02:29:46 ◼ ► totem of like the the Apple everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8986">TS</a>]
02:29:49 ◼ ► believes is there where they have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8989">TS</a>]
02:29:51 ◼ ► you know where they do their amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8991">TS</a>]
02:29:54 ◼ ► incredible decisions to bring bring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8994">TS</a>]
02:29:56 ◼ ► future out of his white room into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8996">TS</a>]
02:29:58 ◼ ► reality and he may not i mean he he may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/8998">TS</a>]
02:30:01 ◼ ► only be spiritual leadership at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9001">TS</a>]
02:30:04 ◼ ► point and i know i firmly believe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9004">TS</a>]
02:30:06 ◼ ► really do like it that when it comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9006">TS</a>]
02:30:09 ◼ ► add an aesthetic decision like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9009">TS</a>]
02:30:16 ◼ ► in addition to regular black on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9016">TS</a>]
02:30:18 ◼ ► iphone 7 you know should we do we can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9018">TS</a>]
02:30:20 ◼ ► you know here's what we here's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9020">TS</a>]
02:30:22 ◼ ► blacks we can do the jet black one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9022">TS</a>]
02:30:24 ◼ ► more expensive and time-consuming and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9024">TS</a>]
02:30:26 ◼ ► we sell it at the same price as the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9026">TS</a>]
02:30:29 ◼ ► memory you know storage and the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9029">TS</a>]
02:30:31 ◼ ► thing we're going to take a hit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9031">TS</a>]
02:30:36 ◼ ► yes or no do we do this i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9036">TS</a>]
02:30:38 ◼ ► final decisions to fight that is Jony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9038">TS</a>]
02:30:40 ◼ ► Ive's and not Tim Cook's and i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9040">TS</a>]
02:30:43 ◼ ► saying that Tim Cook is is powerless in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9043">TS</a>]
02:30:46 ◼ ► that way I think it's because Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9046">TS</a>]
02:30:51 ◼ ► further Jony ive that like it mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9051">TS</a>]
02:30:55 ◼ ► latencies it technically ultimately be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9055">TS</a>]
02:30:57 ◼ ► Tim Cook's decision as the CEO that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9057">TS</a>]
02:30:59 ◼ ► power resides in the CEO but that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9059">TS</a>]
02:31:01 ◼ ► think within apples culture Jony ive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9061">TS</a>]
02:31:03 ◼ ► gets to make the product decisions in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9063">TS</a>]
02:31:05 ◼ ► similar way that Steve Jobs did even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9065">TS</a>]
02:31:07 ◼ ► though his title is not CEO like Johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9067">TS</a>]
02:31:10 ◼ ► I've it wasn't going to be named CEO in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9070">TS</a>]
02:31:13 ◼ ► a legal way and make you actually make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9073">TS</a>]
02:31:15 ◼ ► it is title because it's absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9075">TS</a>]
02:31:17 ◼ ► positively there are aspects of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9077">TS</a>]
02:31:19 ◼ ► CEO that he absolutely simply doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9079">TS</a>]
02:31:22 ◼ ► want to do and in fact that some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9082">TS</a>]
02:31:24 ◼ ► those aspects like of managing at people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9084">TS</a>]
02:31:26 ◼ ► and and indirect it actually him being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9086">TS</a>]
02:31:30 ◼ ► promoted this chief design officer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9090">TS</a>]
02:31:33 ◼ ► having two lieutenants directly below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9093">TS</a>]
02:31:35 ◼ ► him actually made him less like the CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9095">TS</a>]
02:31:38 ◼ ► of just the design group that he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9098">TS</a>]
02:31:41 ◼ ► more like chairman of the design group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9101">TS</a>]
02:31:44 ◼ ► yeah he's he's kind of like yeah and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9104">TS</a>]
02:31:46 ◼ ► you could say he's kind of the head of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9106">TS</a>]
02:31:47 ◼ ► product in a really grand scale i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9107">TS</a>]
02:31:50 ◼ ► give you an example from my life is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9110">TS</a>]
02:31:52 ◼ ► whatever had been employed decade-plus I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9112">TS</a>]
02:31:55 ◼ ► was the editor-in-chief of macworld that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9115">TS</a>]
02:31:56 ◼ ► means that if I want the cover to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9116">TS</a>]
02:31:58 ◼ ► something and look a certain way I i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9118">TS</a>]
02:32:01 ◼ ► to decree that right like Tim Cook being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9121">TS</a>]
02:32:03 ◼ ► the CEO but you know I had a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9123">TS</a>]
02:32:06 ◼ ► art director named rob Schultz for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9126">TS</a>]
02:32:09 ◼ ► many years and he and I would work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9129">TS</a>]
02:32:11 ◼ ► these cover designs and you know i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9131">TS</a>]
02:32:13 ◼ ► come up with lots of wacky ideas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9133">TS</a>]
02:32:15 ◼ ► some of them he would be like that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9135">TS</a>]
02:32:17 ◼ ► or we get what we have nine sample [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9137">TS</a>]
02:32:19 ◼ ► covers and i'd say i kinda like number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9139">TS</a>]
02:32:21 ◼ ► three and then he and my executive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9141">TS</a>]
02:32:23 ◼ ► editor would be like now number three is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9143">TS</a>]
02:32:25 ◼ ► not so good number five is the one I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9145">TS</a>]
02:32:26 ◼ ► like all right well you know i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9146">TS</a>]
02:32:28 ◼ ► and again I could I could say nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9148">TS</a>]
02:32:30 ◼ ► dammit it's going to be number three but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9150">TS</a>]
02:32:33 ◼ ► I feel like Tim Cook maybe is that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9153">TS</a>]
02:32:35 ◼ ► with product and design right that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9155">TS</a>]
02:32:38 ◼ ► he's got Phil Schiller to work with on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9158">TS</a>]
02:32:40 ◼ ► product marketing but he's got Johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9160">TS</a>]
02:32:42 ◼ ► and and if Johnny says got to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9162">TS</a>]
02:32:44 ◼ ► jet-black like I you could say no but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9164">TS</a>]
02:32:47 ◼ ► you're gonna say no to Johnny I've like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9167">TS</a>]
02:32:49 ◼ ► I wouldn't I we take a lot for me to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9169">TS</a>]
02:32:52 ◼ ► no to my art director and you i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9172">TS</a>]
02:32:54 ◼ ► we take away more than that for Tim Cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9174">TS</a>]
02:32:56 ◼ ► to say no to Johnny I've and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9176">TS</a>]
02:32:57 ◼ ► the tim cook's powerless and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9177">TS</a>]
02:32:59 ◼ ► that Jony ive always makes the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9179">TS</a>]
02:33:01 ◼ ► decisions but he's much more likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9181">TS</a>]
02:33:05 ◼ ► the right then then Tim Cook and Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9185">TS</a>]
02:33:08 ◼ ► knows it about about some decisions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9188">TS</a>]
02:33:11 ◼ ► so that that's probably because he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9191">TS</a>]
02:33:13 ◼ ► forward-facing because he's you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9193">TS</a>]
02:33:15 ◼ ► onstage and because he's clearly not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9195">TS</a>]
02:33:18 ◼ ► his hands on involved with the date is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9198">TS</a>]
02:33:20 ◼ ► design of the actual products as as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9200">TS</a>]
02:33:23 ◼ ► used to be or if he is there are these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9203">TS</a>]
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02:33:31 ◼ ► sense that he's fading away wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9211">TS</a>]
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02:33:34 ◼ ► working on the architecture of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9214">TS</a>]
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02:33:46 ◼ ► know it feels like johnny is putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9226">TS</a>]
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02:33:52 ◼ ► know designing tables for apple stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9232">TS</a>]
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02:34:00 ◼ ► Johnny I've is retiring and moving to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9240">TS</a>]
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02:34:05 ◼ ► you know chief design officer emeritus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9245">TS</a>]
02:34:07 ◼ ► title with him you know like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9247">TS</a>]
02:34:10 ◼ ► know still technically some part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9250">TS</a>]
02:34:12 ◼ ► Apple but you know he's is emeritus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9252">TS</a>]
02:34:15 ◼ ► he's not involved in the day-to-day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9255">TS</a>]
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02:34:22 ◼ ► ever but on other things moving you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9262">TS</a>]
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02:34:34 ◼ ► happens with him i don't think anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9274">TS</a>]
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02:34:43 ◼ ► nobody would say that he's wrong to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9283">TS</a>]
02:34:46 ◼ ► so he really it does feel like he sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9286">TS</a>]
02:34:48 ◼ ► of done everything he can on one level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9288">TS</a>]
02:34:51 ◼ ► he's conquered everything and um also I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9291">TS</a>]
02:34:55 ◼ ► don't think I would feel like he's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9295">TS</a>]
02:34:58 ◼ ► there so long I mean he's been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9298">TS</a>]
02:35:00 ◼ ► since the teammate for grants tank right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9300">TS</a>]
02:35:02 ◼ ► he's been there so long that I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9302">TS</a>]
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02:35:07 ◼ ► will apple do without Johnny I've at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9307">TS</a>]
02:35:09 ◼ ► this point i'm sure some people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9309">TS</a>]
02:35:10 ◼ ► great apples do because Johnny I've is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9310">TS</a>]
02:35:13 ◼ ► leaving stories but I feel like he not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9313">TS</a>]
02:35:15 ◼ ► only is he built a culture like Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9315">TS</a>]
02:35:18 ◼ ► but new people have my dears never end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9318">TS</a>]
02:35:22 ◼ ► we've had Johnny's ideas for 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9322">TS</a>]
02:35:23 ◼ ► now would be a big one and probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9323">TS</a>]
02:35:25 ◼ ► second biggest that there ever was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9325">TS</a>]
02:35:27 ◼ ► it's it's not going to be the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9327">TS</a>]
02:35:29 ◼ ► apples not gonna be the same without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9329">TS</a>]
02:35:31 ◼ ► black now so we've been to every one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9331">TS</a>]
02:35:34 ◼ ► that is so much bigger than you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9334">TS</a>]
02:35:37 ◼ ► next three combined that you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9337">TS</a>]
02:35:39 ◼ ► again maybe they're not the same and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9339">TS</a>]
02:35:40 ◼ ► they shouldn't be the same because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9340">TS</a>]
02:35:41 ◼ ► they were the same you know what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9341">TS</a>]
02:35:43 ◼ ► deal online to get the Tappan Zee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9343">TS</a>]
02:35:44 ◼ ► changing his busy dying and Steve you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9344">TS</a>]
02:35:47 ◼ ► know that that is that I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9347">TS</a>]
02:35:49 ◼ ► part of this era is the continuity with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9349">TS</a>]
02:35:52 ◼ ► with Steve like with Steve leaving with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9352">TS</a>]
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02:35:57 ◼ ► passed away but with with that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9357">TS</a>]
02:35:59 ◼ ► period Apple need to show that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9359">TS</a>]
02:36:02 ◼ ► still in business and still knew what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9362">TS</a>]
02:36:04 ◼ ► was doing and so like presence of johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9364">TS</a>]
02:36:06 ◼ ► is super-important steady hand tick Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9366">TS</a>]
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02:36:11 ◼ ► we were passing through that phase of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9371">TS</a>]
02:36:14 ◼ ► reassure us that Apple's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9374">TS</a>]
02:36:17 ◼ ► totally crash and burn without Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9377">TS</a>]
02:36:18 ◼ ► there and we can debate and people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9378">TS</a>]
02:36:21 ◼ ► still argue that Apple completely lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9381">TS</a>]
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02:36:27 ◼ ► Jony ive leaving today would not be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9387">TS</a>]
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02:37:11 ◼ ► and he you're there typing away and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9431">TS</a>]
02:37:14 ◼ ► scribbling in my notebook and a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9434">TS</a>]
02:37:16 ◼ ► comes up and it's narrated by somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9436">TS</a>]
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02:37:21 ◼ ► gonna go hm hm i also have a correction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9441">TS</a>]
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02:37:28 ◼ ► i botched it's he not busy being born [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9448">TS</a>]
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02:37:34 ◼ ► can't have a Miss quoted Bob Dylan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuwhNFEo/9454">TS</a>]
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