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00:00:00 ◼   ► uh happy new year Jim first show of the [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► year happy new year everyone here was [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► very quiet my my son was here and we [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► just did you know father-son things [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► picked up the guitar plates amazi [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► Metallica you know things every father [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► and son does we we went out to dinner [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► with friends early so because i had new [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► years eve i think New Year's Eve sucks [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► it's like the worst right it's like [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► you're young and you just think what [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► everybody goes out new years eve so I'm [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► going out and you go out and I I don't [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► remember ever having a good time on New [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► Year's Eve it's always crowded the only [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► time I ever remember having a good time [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► on new year's eve and it's very funny [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► because sometimes it's like the security [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► question [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► unlike your bank or whatever they're [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► right where were you on New Year's Eve [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► 1999 yeah and I remember that one [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► because we had friends in town here in [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► philly from Florida and we we just [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► stayed in army and Amy's place for the [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► evening and then before midnight we went [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► down to there's a park called penn's [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► landing wasn't too not too far of a walk [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► and it was in a unusually warm New [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► Year's Eve for Philadelphia so it wasn't [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► like we were real cold we just took a [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► bottle of champagne with us and have [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► fireworks we watch fireworks and it was [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► very nice but in other words we didn't [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► spend any money we didn't have to wait [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► in line anywhere we have to wait for a [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► cab [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► we didn't have to drive anywhere we just [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► walked yes if anybody asks me where were [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► you on this new years eve i could [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► quickly say home [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► i I just I you know it's so expensive to [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► go out a new years eve it's like three [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► times more expensive than like if you go [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► out on December 30-day grace right and [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► you know it's even worse if you have [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► kids because then you know you have to [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► pay like 10 thousand dollars for [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► babysitter and you know then you have [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► the the eggs orbiting Lee price dinner [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► and drinks that you have to go for [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► images it's the same thing every year [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► and I'd rather what I didn't make it up [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► to midnight i fell asleep [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► yeah i mean i remember a couple years [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► ago I mean I went out [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► I don't remember if it was recent enough [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► that that we could just leave Jonas at [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► home or if we had any sister come and [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► watch i think we probably had her sister [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► come and watch him so we went out to one [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► of our favorite restaurants and we went [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► late so that we could ostensibly be [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► there at midnight you know so it's a [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► real late dinner maybe like ten o'clock [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► dinner stayed and did the countdown with [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► the restaurant full of people and of [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► course it was more expensive than usual [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► and it wasn't as good because i feel [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► like it was too crowded and you know you [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► don't like get dinner was just slightly [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► all wasn't bad but slightly off and then [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► we leave and we're like I don't know [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► it's like a mile and a half from our [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► house number right here in center city [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► philadelphia but it's cold and Amy had [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► heels on and it's just not gonna walk [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► but we couldn't get a cab just couldn't [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► get a cab [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► I because it's New Years Eve and it just [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► was just past midnight could not get a [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► cab so we thought hey let's just go to a [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► hotel you know right down the street [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► there's a hotel they have a nice bar [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► will go there we have one more drink and [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► then by the time we're done it'll be [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► plenty caps we go in and it's only like [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► 20 after midnight and hotel bars closed [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► it's just completely shut down and it's [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► like the content they want everybody out [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► right like ordinarily they would never [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► be closed at 12 you know 12 midnight [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► they'd be open to it too but they're [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► closed because they want everybody out [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► because everybody's a drunken masters so [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► we started walking home and like her [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► feet are hurting and eventually a cab [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► comes by and we're only like we're like [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► four blocks from our house and I'm like [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► I don't care i'll still get a cab her [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► feed her and and the guy just rolls down [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► his window the cab driver and he just [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► says where you going [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► and I told them are you know where our [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► address its he knows it's only four [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► blocks from where we are and he goes he [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► goes thirty bucks you know you're doing [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► and it's gonna be off the meter and I [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► was like oh my god I can't believe this [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► but it's if it was my feet they hurt i [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► would i would say you know [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► go fuck yourself but it's eight and I'm [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► ir I don't you know I paid thirty [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► dollars to four blocks in a cat wow we [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► haven't gone out on New Year's Eve sense [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► yeah I don't blame you now so we [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► wouldn't even out we went out early like [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► 530 to dinner with some friends in [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► chinatown [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► and just you know guide knows guide you [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► know and it wasn't like a fancy you know [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► you would never even know it was New [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► Year's Eve well you know I i we as a [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► couple of friends of mine i came over [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► for a little bit and they they brought [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► you know I got a pot of pulled pork and [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► and some same buns you know and we had [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► that night but that was about it [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► still I didn't make it to midnight [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► picnic in the mode get a good little bit [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► uh-huh i'll bet you're grumpy when you [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► have to go to bed haha i'm going to be [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► when I have to go to bed and when I [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► haven't eaten [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► I feel when you're hungry right [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► you're not gonna get yeah we ended up [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► but I what's a place in san francisco [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► the house of me do something after the [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► house of prime rib roast private yeah [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► whatever you want or did I wasn't mean [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► you when you're hungry yeah i remember [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► that when you're in a bad method we have [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► less they take care of you as a primary [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► they let you know that hungry [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► no no [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► so I don't know that's going out to New [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► Year's is not a lot of news to talk [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► about we got like your review stuff we [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► could talk about I don't know what if [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► you wanted to start thing I i saw this [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► and that this to me is one of those [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► topics where I know it it's like [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► opinions are all over the map and i know [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► that some people think that I'm off my [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► rocker on this which is the question of [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► where the super east and compared to its [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► competitors like Google system and alexa [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► from amazon and I link to a piece of sky [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► witch whose name I this guy birch tree [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► com where he did a study he did 50 [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► commands with Siri and Google assistant [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► the exact same commands and Cirie [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► actually did better on more of them than [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► google assistant which is does not [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► surprise me [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► it's it's and I think the bottom line is [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► that none of these things are actually [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► good [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► Syria is not good google assistant is [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► not good Alexa is not good all of these [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► things stink and like 10 years from now [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► we're going to look back at the state [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► all these things and they're like [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► ridiculous they're like yes it's it's [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► such an early days and there they all [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► fail in such frustrating ways compared [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► to like even if you had a bad human a [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► personal assistant like a personal [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► assistant here like I should fire this [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► person you hire somebody asked there but [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► they're there they're like it [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► no human being is as stupid or as [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► frustrating as these things are overall [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► in terms of like if you're talking about [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► a certain topic and then you're like [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► we'll go get me one of those [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► they're like what you know you can't you [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► just can't talk to them the way you [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► really want to and we well it's a clear [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► that's what we're working towards but i [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► thought that this guy's thing and then I [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► course because people are very angry [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► about Cirie people this is like an [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► emotional to have it [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► people don't add that's one thing I [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► don't get [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► I and I'm not emotional about it and I [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► know that there are some people in there [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► you know they think that because I I [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► tend to like Apple products i right [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► about Apple that they think I just that [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► I'm somehow like a home team cheerleader [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► for Siri I really don't think so i think [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► Cirie stinks i just think the other one [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► stink too and that in some ways Siri is [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► better in ways that are meaningful to me [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► but people one of the things people said [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► about this bad guys study was that he [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► was using on an Android device but he [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► was using google a low to do that [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► queries and you type it's like a little [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► chat bot so it's sort of like typing it [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► in [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► I message you know and so instead of [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► dictating verbally he's he's typing and [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► they're saying that the argument is that [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► that's not a fair comparison because the [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► real google assistant is a voice driven [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► thing and it's only available on the [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► pixel phones and he didn't have a pixel [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► phone so I don't know is it for me it's [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► but what you want to use it for what it [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► comes down to for me so serious and i [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► said this yesterday about you know all [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► of the [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► of the things that are showing up at CES [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► about yeah [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► alexa yeah you know that to me Siri is [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► the assistant that you carry with you [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► it's your mobile assistant but apple [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► doesn't seem to be taking those steps [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► for the home so if you want and you know [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► an assistant in the home that right now [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► that seems to be alexa matt burch leurs [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► the name of the guy who wrote this story [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► i'll put it in the show notes the [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► difference between Google assistant in [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► Syria and what he did is he made a video [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► about it which i think was a very useful [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► way of doing it where you can actually [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► see the results live [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► yeah i I just I mean it's victor what [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► what [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► amazon is doing right now is very smart [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► yeah I mean there's they're getting [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► alexa into as many products as they can [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► so that they just become the default and [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► he's a very smart thing did it [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► yeah i wrote about this recently where [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► they there was an announcement that the [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► wynn las vegas is going to put alexa or [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► the echo and two off like 4800 of their [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► hotel rooms in vegas property and that [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► however much you want to say that this [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► you know home device stuff is early days [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► you know [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► hey 5,000 hotel rooms here five thousand [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► armed hotel rooms there and all of a [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► sudden you've got like a sustained lead [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► because things like that don't get [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► replaced that often you know it's like [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► how long did it take [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► hotel rooms to get rid of the 30-pin [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► chargers on the long [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► yeah i mean seriously it's is every once [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► in a while I don't know the last time I [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► saw one of those but I you know it until [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► recently I would occasionally would you [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► know the alarm clock would have the [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► 30-pin charger i mean that's like what [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► five six years old interview last time [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► you could buy an iphone that had one of [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► those you know you put the win puts [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► 5,000 of these alexa things in there and [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► hooks up all of the lights and four [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► thousand rooms full of lights and shades [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► and the window blinds to alexa they're [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► not going to replace it with another [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► device you know next year [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► nope and so it seemed how would you [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► summarize the news coming out of CES [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► you wrote this you got the story on your [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► site Alexa's everywhere output that the [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► show notes [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► yeah I i I've I just never liked CES to [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► be honest with you ever go I did yeah I [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► went for a few years and it's just [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► craziness because a lot of the stuff [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► that you see at CES aren't real products [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► right and it's difficult to really [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► assess what's happening in terms of [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► consumer electronics when you know [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► eighty percent of the products are real [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► or seventy percent or sixty percent you [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► know how they're they're bringing [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► proof-of-concept things to CES I to see [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► how people react to them so the news out [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► of CES to me is just always every year [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► is just kind of there [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► well why would you summarize the [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► election news on that well the election [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► news i find very interesting not because [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► of alexa but because everybody is [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► choosing that platform and hell and [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► partially because it's it's it's a story [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► down on your site the loop dave mark [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► wrote it that they're following a [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► netflix that strategy of trying to embed [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► alexa everywhere that they can and then [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► way that netflix seemingly if you've got [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► a box that makes the he'll come out of [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► it netflix is going to do is willing to [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► put the netflix app on that box [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► I mean everybody can you buy a video box [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► it doesn't come with netflix i don't [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► know ever know if you can I ID holder is [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► everywhere I mean it's even on comcast [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► now how you know that xfinity thing [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► right so yeah thats everywhere [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► yeah I died of a relative who had that [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► with their comcast thing and I that blew [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► me away [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► it really did surprise me that comcast [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► would would do that because you kind of [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► think comcast wants to keep you tied to [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► the cable channels [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► yeah yeah so there's like other other [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► companies among the things I've seen is [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► that there [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► are other companies coming out with echo [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► like Doc's some of them who was the one [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► that is working with mike harmon kardon [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► to make really you know like a really [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► good speaker so yeah if you're if if [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► your gripe about the Amazon echo is hey [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► I I want one of these things i would get [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► the Amazon version but i really want [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► better sound quality than this stuff [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► they've instead of doing it themselves [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► they've they've just license the alexa [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► technology to these other companies but [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► other things too that like a ford motor [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► company announced that they're going to [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► they're going to put alexa into their [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► cars [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► I'm add I don't know it just seems like [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► they're running away with this [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► do you have a voice assistant at home [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► you have google or like so I have the [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► election thing in my kitchen and we [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► never use it but on the other hand no we [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► really don't [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► honest to god I i got it so I could you [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► know try it and it just felt like a [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► reasonable business expense and maybe we [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► would like it but we one thing as we [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► don't have any like smart light bulbs or [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► anything like that when I many smart [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► everything in the house because we're [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► moving somewhat soon [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► supposedly it's a long story but I'm [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► going to sense to buy stuff like that [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► for the place we live now and everybody [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► I know who does like Alexa like Ben [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► Thompson really likes it has stuff in [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► the house where you can say things you [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► know like turn out the kitchen lights or [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► whatever and we don't have anything like [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► that and for the stuff i do do it [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► doesn't work as well as Syria for me [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► like I I can't stand the way usually [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► I've said this before on the show is it [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► and I'm gonna be a broken record but a [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► lot of times all I care about [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► especially when i'm in our kitchen our [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► kitchen has windows so I can see what [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► the weather is like I could see if it's [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► raining or sunny or whatever all i want [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► to know is the temperature outside and [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► alexa if you say what's the temperature [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► gets she understands it but all she does [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► is give you a full weather report for [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► the day but I don't want it takes like [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► 30 seconds and if you ask Siri for the [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► temperature she just tells you the [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► temperature but that will mean that [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► leads me to something that I want to [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► complain about Cirie [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► all rights so with Siri when you ask the [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► temperature if it i don't know what the [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► threshold is but somewhere around the [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► freezing [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► I maybe it's like under 40 degrees [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► Fahrenheit or so she dancers with [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► burrower and then tells you the [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► temperature every crack every every [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► goddamn time and this to me is one of [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► the worst things about series like the [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► cuteness of trying to be funny like when [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► you don't know if you're not asking her [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► to be funny because it's not funny [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► that's not funny at all like they need [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► to me haha well but no human being would [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► do that like and I had a real human [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► assistant nobody they they never win and [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► they knew the temperature they would [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► never say verse 33 degrees [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► yeah and if they did they would do it [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► once and maybe only in the context of [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► like a surprisingly cold day like if it [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► was the middle of sep tember and the [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► temperature dropped to an unusual degree [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► you could say something like that but on [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► the east coast in philadelphia in [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► January it's completely normal for it to [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► be 33 degrees there's nothing unusual [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► about it at all and so it's not funny [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► it's just annoying and it every time you [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► write and and it's it [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► I you know what I mean like I don't want [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► my computers to work like that I [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► realized that the conversational nature [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► of Syria is a little different than like [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► using the mac but it's like I like if I [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► i I'm make a new numbers spreadsheet and [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► and I you know title it like 2016 daring [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► fireball company expenses you know [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► because i'm getting ready to go to get [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► my taxes done [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► I don't want the computer when I hit [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► return on saving the file to say you [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► know tax time again huh yeah right and [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► like I don't want my computer just [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► making weird obvious duh [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► comments like that but yes sirree does [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► just tell me the goddamn temperature are [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► they trying to make Siri more I don't [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► know friendly I mean yeah but you have [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► you not friendly though to meet ya [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► that's obviously the intent [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► to try to make it friendly but it's not [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► because it's so funny because it's every [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► day every single day right at that to me [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► has the opposite effect where it just [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► makes it seem it it's more artificial [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► then if if she just said 33 degrees [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► you know it going down to whatever right [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► I find it incredibly annoying but then [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► on the other side you have a alexa [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► giving you full weather forecast remilia [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► one is the temperature right [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► the thing with this alexa everywhere is [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► I I don't quite know how it's going to [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► tie into being personal it in terms of [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► like Amazon just doesn't know that much [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► about me and you know you can do things [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► like say add to my shopping list and [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► it's just like your amazon shopping list [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► but it's like a and I think there's a [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► way you can hook up your google calendar [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► but i don't use google calendar so you [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► know like Siri has an advantage on [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► things like access to my actual calendar [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► that election is never going to have [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► right and I don't think like Alexa can't [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► send the text messages or I messages i [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► don't know certainly not my messages and [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► I don't think it can send text messages [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► so I don't know it's it seems more about [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► information and controlling like this [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► just controlling your environment with [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► the lights and playing music than about [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► being a real personal assistant [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► well and i'm the same way as you i don't [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► have the light bulbs and I don't but I [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► when I think of a personal assistant in [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► the home I think of having something [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► that will be more interactive with me [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► and my surroundings then what anything [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► is right now maybe that's why I don't [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► really I i haven't gone and purchase one [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► of these because it doesn't really do [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► anything besides answer questions you [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► I mean I don't know yet I'm Merlin loves [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► his MH Ben Thompson does to ya [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► so I don't know I mean maybe I'm just [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► not seeing it and i don't know i'm not [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► but right now I mean they if i sat down [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► now and even if there was a sale on [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► alexa this afternoon i don't think i'd [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► buy one because i I just I don't think [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► it's gonna do a whole lot for me I mean [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► look at the google commercial about the [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► you know the little boy that's saying [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► trying to make the dog disappear right [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► and he's trying to figure out what the [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► magic word is I mean that's cute but it [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► really didn't do anything so I don't [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► know why I keep coming back to this [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► solve a problem thing how much is like [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► solving a problem right now none of the [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► new products [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► it may but I i just don't see what it's [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► doing for me then so great that I just [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► can't do it myself I see how eventually [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► it well I think eventually exactly [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► amazing i really do i think i think if [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► you could just tell your assistant hey [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► I'm I'm fine to San Francisco you know [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► on these dates [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► what are my choices for flights from [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► american airlines and then you know have [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► Siri come back in a couple of seconds [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► and just have like an ordered list of [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► you know like direct flights from Philly [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► to San Francisco that would be fantastic [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► isn't that what that new one did that [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► Samsung bought yeah yeah sort of i mean [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► but again I think that's a lot like CES [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► were viv viv was great as the one that's [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► created by the people who originally [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► created serie so they have a track [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► record it's not like they're you know a [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► like they don't have a track record but [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► i don't think i think it was sort of a [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► proof-of-concept you know like when they [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► demoed it i don't think it was real [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► you know it really couldn't do the [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► things that they were showing [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► but that's that's where they work where [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► they're going with it right [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► you know it seemed and and this is I [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► mean what when everybody saw that well [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► you know everybody freaked out because [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► series couldn't do those things but we [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► don't know that Siri can't do those [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► things you just know that the series [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► that we have can't right so where were [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► very quick to did the jump on apple and [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► say that they're not doing things but [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► Siri could outdo viv right now and in [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► you know the prototype models bottom [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► line for me is not that again not that [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► Syria is behind these other companies [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► but that they all still stink over all [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► and they're better and but they're very [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► different at different things like one [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► of the things that most people really [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► praised Alexa for is that once you know [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► exactly what to say to it it'll get it [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► every time and it's and the response [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► time turnaround works response time is [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► faster for a lot of people with alexa in [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► terms of how long do you have to wait [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► the thing that matters the reason it it [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► all matter and a perfect example of why [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► it matters is air pods right because [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► Syria is a big part of their pots and I [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► know like my wife loves her she really [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► really loves him and she switched from [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► Cirie to having double tap play pause [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► because she finds the need to pause [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► without taking it out a lot and so like [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► she even tweeted that that switching it [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► to play pause was a game-changer like it [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► really made hurt it that preference [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► setting made her go from mostly liking [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► their pods to loving their pods I i set [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► mine like that you know a day after i [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► had them in when I figured out how to [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► change that setting [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► I've I've kept it I've kept it on Cirie [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► almost since I I hadn't played us for a [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► little bit but I like taking it out so [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► at the it and usually it it works for me [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► you know that works like function works [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► but in practical terms if it's fine for [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► me to just take it out to play pause so [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► I keep it on series so i use the serial [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► lot [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► uh-huh but it is the biggest annoyance [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► for me is the pause between when I [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► double tap it and when [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► I get the prompt and I'm bro I what's [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► the word impatient that a lot of times [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► I'll start saying what i want to say [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► before it's actually listening the [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► accuracy is probably it's probably the [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► most accurate serie product i know and i [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► don't know if that's because the [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► microphone is right there you know it so [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► close to my mouth I don't know if it's [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► because there's two of them i don't know [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► if you know like if they're doing funny [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► stuff like in you know getting it out of [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► the bones in my ear or whatever but it's [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► very very accurate she is it is when i [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► dictate into air pods it's the accuracy [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► is the highest of any product but that [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► pit that that pause between the second [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► tap and when it's actually listening is [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► infuriating [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► yeah i do the same thing as you it's [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► it's like when it's on a Bluetooth in [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► the car and we tried that is on [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► bluetooth and the current you press it [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► and there's this long pause and I've [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► already started talking just any happen [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► and the pauses even longer than normal [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► and I get that you know it's because [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► it's over bluetooth and its kind of [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► connecting as a phone call or however it [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► doesn't but still it's not optimal [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► I think that it's get the number one way [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► that Syrian needs to improve his [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► response time I beyond any just don't [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► even get into the the what Siri can do [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► and the the accuracy and whatever but [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► getting the response time is close to [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► zero as possible i think it's essential [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► and I think in in all of computing [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► people recognize that that's it doesn't [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► matter what field you're in eventually [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► anything where there's a delay it it if [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► you don't get rid of that delay the [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► product falls by the wayside you know [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► yeah like it seems to be i remember back [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► when we have floppy disks when you hit [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► command ask you have to wait wait a bit [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► for the hot just like a word processing [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► file to save right you need here the [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► lobby going to it you know it's my right [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► you have to wait but you really don't [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► have to wait anymore [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► well now it does it automatically so [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► with empathy [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► that's the whole then we know that that [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► this is going to be a lot different [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► and in the coming years it's just right [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► now I have difficulty finding the the [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► usefulness for all of this angers here's [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► another example Apple maps it's very [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► cool [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► it really is but if you're going [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► somewhere where you don't know I'm Apple [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► maps will will just say in half a mile [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► turn left [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► whereas google maps is more interactive [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► more friendly more detailed google maps [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► will say in half a mile [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► use the left two lanes in turn left [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► ok you know now I know what my options [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► are or if you're coming to one of those [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► intersections on the the freeway you [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► know google maps will say you know in in [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► one mile use the right two lanes to take [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► the exit here then keep left [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► you know either then use the left lane [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► to to keep left eye that's useful and [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► that is very useful [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► yeah I'm to just say I keep right and [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► then a lot of times there's a fork in [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► the road when you keep right minute says [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► now keep left right no it doesn't it [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► doesn't say everything that you need [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► I think to be uh to allow you to be as [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► successful in in your journey so I love [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► Apple maps i think it's great uh it's [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► very cool interface it you know for the [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► most part of it gives great directions [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► the directions are basically the same [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► they're just more detailed in areas that [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► you don't know to allow you and I i [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► actually used it [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► Christmas day I went to visit a friend [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► and have only had only been to their [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► house one time before and I had been [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► playing around but course like we all do [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► play around with the apps all the time [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► and I was playing around with with [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► google maps and I used it and a clued in [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► to me how much that matter that little [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► detail mattered in areas where I didn't [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► know where I was going so that that's a [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► situation where ya this actually did [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► help solve the problem for me you know i [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► wasn't turning into the middle lane and [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► then waiting for apple maps to say which [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► way i have to turn right but are some [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► you know it is humane as saying when it [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► when if it tells you you can be in [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► either of the two left lanes and you're [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► already in like the one closer to the [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► center then you know you're already good [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► and you don't have to worry about [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► merging one more line over just because [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► you know if you make a left that's [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► actually very useful information and [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► it's a sort of thing that once you're [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► familiar with with a with a route to a [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► certain sir you just do that your brain [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► does that automatically you're like oh [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► yeah i know i'm good at that there's two [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► lanes that go right here because it's a [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► busy exit [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► yeah and actually after I make that left [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► turn I have to make a media right so you [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► know I better stay in the you know the [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► second-most left lane because that [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► that's where i will all want to term and [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► see those are just the the types of [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► things that I when I want to talk about [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► the usefulness that to me is very useful [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► and I really like that [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► alright let me take a break care and [TS]

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00:29:42 ◼   ► people use MailChimp to connect with [TS]

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00:30:01 ◼   ► you can automatically follow up with [TS]

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00:30:14 ◼   ► wordpress facebook asked online store [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► packages like Shopify and magento they [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► integrate with all of these apps and web [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► services that you use every day [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► one of the prices you can send up to [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► 12,000 emails a month to a list of up to [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► 2,000 subscribers with male chimps [TS]

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00:30:33 ◼   ► guess how much that costs the Forever [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► Free plan well it's free and gets along [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► it's free for its free forever as long [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► as you've got two thousand fewer [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► subscribers across all this in your [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► account you can send it to 12,000 emails [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► a month without paying mailchimp a dime [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► they won't even ask for a credit card [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► and if you need to if you have more than [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► that if you have more than 2,000 [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► customers when you're already doing well [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► you can afford to pay and the prices are [TS]

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00:31:00 ◼   ► so there we go to mailchimp calm and get [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► started that's it mailchimp com [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► there's no coupon no code nothing else [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► to remember just go to mailchimp calm [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► and see what they have to offer their [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► unbelievable service unbelievable [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► company really great friends of the show [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► they've sponsored is forever including I [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► think every year that we've done it they [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► they've been the sponsor of the day open [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► bar the live talk show at WWDC so I i [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► use MailChimp I'm all the time for the [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► loop [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► yeah it's alright love it good today I [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► don't honestly I don't even know their [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► competitors are I don't it's like [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► they're so far above the best at ya [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► doing personalized email that it's I [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► don't even know what you would say [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► so anyway of any kind of needs for email [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► or if maybe you don't even know you have [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► needs for email go check out mailchimp [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► calm all right what about this there was [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► a really good article by Chuck von [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► Rossbach he called animals 2016 year in [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► review and I thought it was really [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► thought I didn't agree with everything [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► that he wrote but you know that's that's [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► the way the world works on but I thought [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► he made a couple of good points in [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► particular on the airport base stations [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► in the mac pro lineups in particular and [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► the thing that both of these products [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► have in common [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► I mean obviously the mac pro is very [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► expensive product it's the you know core [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► to a lot of people's relationship with [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► apple if you're a professional that has [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► a need for a mac pro that's this is [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► probably it's probably the most [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► important thing that Apple makes for you [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► very expensive too [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► I guess it's apples most expensive [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► product right i mean i can't imagine [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► that there's anything else that it's [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► more expensive than a true [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► tripped out Mac Pro forward base [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► stations are not there sort of a other I [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► don't even know what category they put [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► them in on the apple website but it's [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► sort of like a little peripheral and [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► they're not very expensive and it's just [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► sort of just waited to keep you in the [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► apple ecosystem and make sure that you [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► know you have an apple-like experience [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► setting up Wi-Fi in your house where you [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► you know get a nice lap on your phone [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► and it's very easy to understand how to [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► set up from a consumers point of view [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► and because if you're using an apple [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► airport you know that things like back [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► to your Mac or whatever should work you [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► know features you know that the the way [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► that the features that Apple has for the [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► products that they operate over the [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► internet you know presumably they're [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► going to work better with or at least as [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► there is expected to within AirPort base [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► station but the thing with both of these [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► products is they're terribly out of date [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► and they're still but yet apple is still [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► selling them at the same prices is what [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► when they came out and I don't know and [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► there was a story government had a story [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► a couple months ago that that Apple is [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► getting out of the airport game and that [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► they've they've reassigned the engineers [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► who were previously working on airport [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► base stations to other teams so I don't [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► knows what's going on there [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► yeah I'd you know what's interesting [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► about 2016 is that the products that had [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► the least of Madame updates are the ones [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► that are get is getting the most amount [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► of news you know the mac didn't have a [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► lot of updates especially the mac pro [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► and imac but that's what everybody's [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► talking about right [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► I i don't think that there are banding [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► the mac well I don't we can get to the [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► mac in a bit and i don't think so either [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► but with the airport it's a similar [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► story I think what has to be because [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► it's either there you know it's a simple [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► product i do you think Apple should [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► still be making the airport base [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► stations i would love for them to still [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► make AirPort base stations because i [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► think that they're they're good [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► you know they aight i guess the argument [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► against it is that there are plenty of [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► other companies that make just fine [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► products so it there's no no way for [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► Apple to really stand out like apples [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► apples should focus on the products that [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► they can build that our best-in-class [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► right like the iphone in my opinion is [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► far and away the best phone that you can [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► buy and it's not even it you know to me [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► it's not even close and it [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► the difference is even if you disagree [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► that it's the best you can certainly see [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► how it's different because it's the only [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► phone that runs iOS and I was a huge [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► thing the only reason I think that Apple [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► is not best-in-class and the products [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► that builds is because those are the [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► products that it's not focusing on [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► I mean there was a time when when the [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► airport time machine [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► you know time capsule they were they [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► were best [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► yeah they were definitely I thought [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► especially when you take into [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► consideration not just how they function [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► once set up but the setup process itself [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► you know like because I remember the one [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► time at one point I did have a i forget [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► if it was a linksys I think it was a [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► linksys and it was it was ridiculous how [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► you configure the thing it was like you [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► had to go to like a special it turn it [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► on and you'd point your web browser on [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► your computer to a certain IP address [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► that wasn't like outside it was right [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► there on the the linksys and type a [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► password and it was like nobody ever [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► change the password you know you could i [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► did of course but most people didn't and [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► it was like it's stupid it was like the [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► password was like admin or something [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► like that [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► yeah and then you'd you'd you'd [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► configure it in your web browser and it [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► was like you really had to be like it a [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► low-level network engineer to understand [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► what anything met it was really really [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► difficult and whereas right from the [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► get-go airport you'd configure it with a [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► really nice app on your Mac that was you [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► know just like everything else like it [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► was it was easy you know max tile [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► interface to to configure the stuff i [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► don't know that that's they're not alone [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► in that though and they have I will just [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► say this just to have just said as a [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► 2 full disclosure 0 as sponsored the [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► talk show a couple of times they're not [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► a sponsor this week I don't think [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► they're coming up soon either but they [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► have sponsored the site and they gave me [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► as part of the sponsorship a three-pack [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► of euros so the euros i have set up here [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► are you know your complimentary as part [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► of the sponsorship package it's better I [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► i have a couple of friends who I know [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► also have zero setup I haven't heard [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► from one of them who didn't didn't get a [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► better network in our house after [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► switching from like airport or or some [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► of them didn't weren't even using a [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► report before but whatever they did that [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► 0 gives them a better you know the house [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► has better faster internet now you know [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► take a speed test with your old and [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► internet take it out put the eros and [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► take another speed test and you get [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► better results and they have a nice add [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► you know I don't know that Apple could [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► do better than hero i really don't i [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► mean i think they could do as good but I [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► don't know that they can do better and I [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► know there's a couple of other companies [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► that are doing the same thing with these [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► mesh networks we have a couple of [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► devices met you know around the house [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► I don't know but I do know this whether [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► they should if they're going to sell [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► them they should have updated hardware [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► that's competitive with its current [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► state of the art and if they're not they [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► should get get the hell out of the the [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► business and you know put put zeros or [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► some other brand in the apple store and [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► tell people to buy those instead as it [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► stands right now you know if you go into [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► the apple store and you're like hey I [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► you know just moved to an apartment i [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► want to get a new while we set up a new [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► Wi-Fi network if you go in the apple [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► store and do it you're going to get us [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► right now today as we record you're [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► going to get a substandard product like [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► that's antithetical to the apple brand [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► but I really do believe that I you know [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► I i really do stand by this I think it's [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► true that the Apple brand a big part of [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► it for non-expert users is that you can [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► go to the apple store and buy if they [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► sell it what you're buying from them [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► will be a one of the best you know a [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► great product doesn't matter what it is [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► if you're going into by a phone you're [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► going to get an iphone you're gonna get [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► a laptop you're going to get a macbook [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► these are great products and for stuff [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► that they the other type of stuff they [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► sell from third parties they're good [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► stuff like if you get an iphone case [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► from the apple store is going to be a [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► good case it's not going to be a piece [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► of jump but if you get a base station [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► today you're going to get one it's lower [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► than if you bought euros so I think they [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► should either they should either get out [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► of the business or update the heart i [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► might have to try that it euros i just [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► don't get do you get it I don't get why [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► they're I don't get why there's no yeah [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► and you know [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► no I think with the mac pro and we can [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► segue here into the mat pro I think with [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► the mac pro my guess is that something [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► went terribly wrong with the did that [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► radical new design of the trashcan mac [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► pro whether it's hard to make whether [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► this factory it in the United States [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► whereas at austin isn't working out you [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► know and that they you know if they get [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► it some kind of thing where they [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► anticipated that it would be easy to get [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► new updated chips and GPUs and put them [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► in the same design and it's not if it's [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► proving too expensive to make and you [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► know they need to redesign and if they [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► had a redesign a new product that was in [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► the works that failed somehow I I think [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► there's some kind of complicated story [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► like that where they intended to have [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► updated hardware and something happened [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► that's not behind the scenes that kept [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► them from releasing it you know like [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► they were expecting x y&z from Intel in [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► 2016 and Intel did fail to deliver and [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► it left holding the bag because there [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► they didn't have a plan B I don't know [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► something like that but with the airport [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► base stations it doesn't make any sense [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► to me why they couldn't have an updated [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► but product if they wanted to [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► well and and what's strange is that when [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► we when we the underwater borrowers of [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► like three weeks ago or a month ago they [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► released the first update software [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► update for it in God knows how long [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► for what for the airport base station oh [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► yeah yeah you know just I don't know I i [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► agree with you i do I see [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► added you say that there's other [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► products out there that are faster [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► there are other products out there that [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► are just as easy to use and i haven't [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► tried any of those i still have to [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► airport base stations one at a time [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► capsule and one regular em and that's [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► what i use you know so I haven't had the [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► need to try any of the others so for me [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► everything works fine if i could get [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► more speed then that would be great [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► I would love that and if Apple is is not [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► going to to keep up with them [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► I mean if app the thing that we love the [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► most about apple products that i think [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► is the integration or one of the things [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► you know everything just kind of works [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► together you know you the automatic [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► backups 44 time machine and you know you [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► get one of these airports and everything [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► just it just works everything talks to [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► each other [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► it's great and i love that i love not [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► having to think about all the things [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► that you know Apple does for us so now [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► it doesn't always just work of which is [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► well another topic of conversation but [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► sometimes it does and when it does it's [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► easy to forget just how cool it is i got [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► one of the ones that will work for me [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► now and I hadn't actually tried it for a [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► while because my icloud account was I [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► don't know I couldn't have I couldn't [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► turn two-factor authentication on add to [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► that they had to this it's very [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► confusing there's like an older thing [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► that they had that wasn't called to [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► factor it was like to form [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► oh yes yes yes identification and it's [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► like it did send things to my iphone you [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► know I had that turned on but adds like [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► when you have that turned on you have to [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► turn it off before you can switch to the [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► real to factor and then when I did that [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► I my icloud account couldn't have to it [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► just didn't give me the option to turn [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► on two-factor but without two-factor [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► authentication on your iCloud you can't [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► use this is what I'm going to you can't [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► use the new unlock your mac [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► your Apple watch feature yes so anyway I [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► got that straightened out somehow [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► ah and i turned to factor on my icloud [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► account and I've you know gotta watch [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► your running watching us 3.1 and the [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► unlock your mac with the watch thing is [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► amazing it's absolutely yes amazing love [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► it was it [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► i I can't believe and it works really [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► well and I know that it's one of those [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► things i think it was Mac OS that the [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► 10-point 12.2 update the same update [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► where they already took out the [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► remaining battery battery think yeah the [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► same the same update one of the other [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► features that was a bullet point you [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► know like hey here's what we've got in [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► this minor update to Mac you know to Mac [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► os10 i guess i just called Mac OS now [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► Sierra was that they made the unlock [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► with your watch a lot faster now I I i [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► didn't use it before that though so I [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► don't know how but the speed was but the [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► speed now is amazing it it tells you as [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► you wake up your Mac it's like unlocking [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► with Apple watch right and in way less [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► time than it would take me to enter my [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► password [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► I'm in and part of the the thing that [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► they that they fixed with that is even [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► the language to set it up [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► yes he because they they didn't really [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► explain to you what was going on and if [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► something went wrong then it just kind [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► of went wrong [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► yeah hole and I'm and i was i was very [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► fortunate that I had while I set up a [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► couple that went perfectly fine and then [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► I set up one that just would not work [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► and I couldn't figure out why wouldn't [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► work so now the languages is better [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► there there being a bit more interactive [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► and what they're doing so all of that [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► helps you know I i really like the the [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► unlock with Apple watch because I I work [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► a lot on [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► on my laptop and my mac right now i'm [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► using a macbook pro and i work on that a [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► lot so whenever I walk up to is it just [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► unlocks and I don't know about you but [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► I'll get up and go grab a coffee or you [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► know get on the phone or you know just [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► taking a walk and and then when I came [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► back it's locked and it's not a big deal [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► honestly to type in your password [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► it's just more efficient not to know if [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► your Apple watch is connected and you [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► know again that integration and the [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► things that that Apple saves you know [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► the efficiency to me is a big deal [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► well it's let's circle back to the mac [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► pro what people look at this and and I [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► and I think we're maybe so I I [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► understand I've I said it was almost [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► like a form of paranoia and I think it's [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► because i think people recognize that if [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► you if you prefer a desktop style [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► interface meaning you know I'm keyboard [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► and mouse in windows that are just [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► stacked on the screen and you know [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► there's you've got you can choose Mac [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► you can choose windows and then on the [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► open source side there's a bunch of you [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► know linux variants a link to a guy this [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► week who tried like 10 of them you see [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► that where he tried like 10 different [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► because he's like trying to prepare for [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► what happens if mac OS goes away or at [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► least for his own needs as a like a ruby [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► developer and I think what people who [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► really love and get the mac understand [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► is that there's nothing the other ones [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► are nothing like the mac like I i would [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► cry i don't i honest to god I think I [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► just stop working if i had to use [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► windows [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► yeah i don't i don't know I'd become [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► like it [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► I don't know lumberjack or something I'm [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► not cut out for physically but I don't [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► follow [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► I want to see that I'd have to advise [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► the now I don't know I don't know I [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► become a podcaster and just recorded on [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► tapes because I wouldn't mind but there [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► is no mode the mac OS is amazing it is [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► it you know it it it's so good in so [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► many ways for a power user and it [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► doesn't mean you know and I realized and [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► I think the fear that people see is you [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► know that people see the that iOS cells [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► way more devices especially phones but [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► iPads you know however however much I [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► pads have declined in sales from their [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► peak they still out sell the mac ah and [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► there are a lot of people for a lot you [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► know for a lot of people the ipad can be [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► a great main computer and people see [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► that and it gives them the fear that [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► Apple is going to you know say why why [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► waste time on the mac much like why you [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► know why waste time updating AirPort [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► base stations when you know iOS is where [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► it's at and we'll just make everybody [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► moved to iOS yeah i don't i don't think [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► that's reasonable i don't think that's [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► the case but I think I'm loosely [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► articulating the fear that's out there [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► clearly i mean there's no do you eat you [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► can't deny that there are people who are [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► worried about this right of course yes [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► absolutely i mean it is one of the main [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► topics of conversation of of mac power [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► users right now yes is you know and and [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► there's you know let's just put it out [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► there there's absolute the proof there's [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► proof that something is wrong and so far [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► as the mac pro is of I got 1,100 days [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► old and hasn't been updated [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► yeah i mean that is a fact that's funny [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► inarguable yeah you can argue the facts [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► that that are out there but [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► is there were very quick to believe and [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► in some cases we know that Apple has [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► prototypes of of different products [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► I you know there they are actively [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► working on new products and they have [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► those prototypes but for some reason [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► we've refused to believe that they're [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► working on new max right and is that our [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► problem or is it you know apples problem [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► I think is partly apples problem because [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► they have an updated the name thing i [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► think that i think one of the items up [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► one of the problems is a misconception [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► among people who I think should even [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► know better that they see Apple as [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► almost omnipotent that they if they will [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► you know that that that what I think is [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► the case is that something has gone [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► horribly wrong out this is not their [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► plan Apple never plan to to go three [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► years without an update to this and that [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► something behind the scenes or maybe [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► multiple things like it's like a domino [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► effect of one thing leading to another [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► has left them and and that they are it [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► inside Apple it terribly embarrassed [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► that you know and there are people who [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► up the chain who are angry you know that [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► it but that because it's apple and [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► people an apple keep their mouths shut [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► the story doesn't leak and so from the [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► outside it just looks you know it's like [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► at a a disastrous development process [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► for either an updated mac pro similar to [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► the one that you know that that they [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► unveiled three years ago or an all new [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► mac pro that is a totally new design [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► because the reason that this one went [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► without an update was there were various [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► things that were wrong with it that from [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► Apple's perspective one way or the other [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► that those development projects went so [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► wrong that they're delayed by years is [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► that possible I think there's a lot of [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► people out there who think that that [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► Apple has so many resources and is so [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► wealthy and [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► and and in good at this stuff that [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► couldn't be the case and therefore apple [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► has willfully and purposefully put the [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► mac pro in the state that it's in i [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► think a lot of people who think that and [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► I think they're wrong I think Apple [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► could get its I think they push the [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► boundaries so hard that they fail all [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► the time and we just don't know it [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► well yeah i agree with that [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► wholeheartedly but if something like the [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► if what you're describing is true then [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► it would have to be something outside of [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► apples control but we've seen I don't [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► know though [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► but just think I don't even think it [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► could be like just think back and I know [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► it seems like ancient history but think [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► back to the mac cube in 2002 love the [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► cube I don't execute i wish that i [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► wanted 1i coveted one desperately [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► because it seemed like a perfect [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► computer for me but it was outside my [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► budget [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► I loved it yeah but with those like the [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► fine cracks that were in it you know [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► that was out you know that was within [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► their control [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► it's it's things like that like remember [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► a to me that the best example that that [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► things can go terribly wrong for Apple [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► proof is the white iphone for the area [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► right camera and in the first iphone for [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► this was the last iphone that was [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► released at the June timeframe the 4s i [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► think was the one that moved to [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► September so they announced it like WWDC [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► and it's a radical new design it's got a [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► glass back it really was a just a great [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► improvement right it's the first one [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► that went retina it the 3gs was sort of [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► a sort of like the cheapest look and I [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► found that they ever made you know the [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► 3g 3gs with the plastic back so it's [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► like a premium upgrade in in materials [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► it's a at just great in so many ways and [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► they say it's available in black and [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► white and the black one comes out at [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► like the end of june or first week in [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► July and then they say well there's a [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► couple of weeks on the white one and [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► it's like a couple of weeks and then it [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► ends up at the thing doesn't ship until [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► like may have the next year right [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► yeah yeah I mean it was so close it was [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► close to when people were anticipating [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► the next iphone would come out even [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► though it didn't come [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► in june but that meant people you know [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► it it was almost a full year late [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► alcoholic Dana and I you know and [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► they've they've mumbled something about [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► manufacturing process you know right [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► they never really because they don't our [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► Apple they don't want to explain what [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► went wrong [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► right but it's not the camera right I I [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► don't remember why i think it was [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► something with because it was the same [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► cameras black right what are wasn't at [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► the White interfere with the can right [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► right yeah I seem to remember that that [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► was when I when you took a picture it [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► would the White would interfere with how [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► the picture turned out not in it will [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► end and it was you know as far as i [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► understand it was like if everything [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► went perfectly in the manufacturing of [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► the white back thing it was fine it's [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► just that when they started trying to [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► pump millions of them out you know at [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► the full production rate some of them of [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► a too many of them like had this floor [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► right like too much like got in and it [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► ruined the thing is I remember [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► ah it was bizarre it was like when they [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► antennagate you therefore the antenna [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► gate press I like I couldn't make it the [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► rest of the structure notice couldn't [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► make literally the same day I mean I [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► remember whatever day it was they called [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► me and they were like it's tomorrow [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► morning so I it was like yet I I think [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► it's the one time I've ever done this I [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► I like got the phone call like two [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► o'clock eastern time here and found a [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► four o'clock flight to test fo and so [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► like I I was like I booked it and it [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► wasn't ungodly expensive but you know [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► booking a flight that leaves in two [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► hours is kind of expensive yet and I [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► told Amy and I gotta go there apples [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► have anything about this antenna thing [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► tomorrow I got a flight and I was like [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► like in a cab on the way to the airport [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► about 20 minutes after after I'd gotten [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► off the phone with apple and you know [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► got like it was like the last I mean I [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► think I had a couple of other choices [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► but it was the only non stop that was [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► that was remaining for the day but [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► anyway I remember going there for that [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► meeting and I was in the group of people [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► that got the tour of the antenna fits [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► abilities and I was better than any of [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► us and while we were doing that we're [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► walking between a you know town hall and [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► where they were going to show us these [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► these antennae testing rooms you know [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► where they're in the middle of the [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► campus network at the events now they [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► let us you know they have us go through [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► the middle of of infinite loops campus [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► but back then that was very rare they [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► let you in like yeah yeah they had like [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► one door that you could go in and you [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► were right there in front of town hall [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► and that was it [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► you know like you weren't going anywhere [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► like now they let us know that they have [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► come in the main door and we get the [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► little in a walk through the the campus [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► but back in this the KT cotton days you [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► didn't get me anything but we did to get [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► to this thing and the thing that I [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► remember was this is just it was that it [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► was like august i think there were apple [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► employees walking around with white [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► iphones it's a very long story to say [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► that this that there but anyway the [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► white iphone 4 is proof that Apple [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► something can go disastrously wrong [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► between prototype and saying okay yes [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► this this is good to go we're going to [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► make this in mass production and then [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► making it in mass production something [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► can go wrong and I think something like [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► that has gone wrong with the mac pro I [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► firm is I i have no reason to believe it [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► other than that it makes the most sense [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► to me no no little birdies have told me [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► anything like this but I definitely [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► think it's possible and i think the [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► pessimism out there is that there's too [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► many people who who think that that [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► couldn't happen apple because Apple is [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► too you know too rich too good too smart [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► well I i do you ever see a time i will [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► not ever in the next few years that [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► apple will come out and say we're done [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► with the mac or we're done with the pro [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► levels [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► no I don't in fact i think the pro [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► levels are the ones that have the [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► biggest future i think that the the I [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► think the thing that makes the mac [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► essential is the pro level people often [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► bring up [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► and i think it's a it's a good point now [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► but it's just one of many pro use cases [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► the one thing I've seen this argument a [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► lot that no Apple the the mac will be [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► around forever because you need a mac to [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► make iphone apps right and what could [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► Apple do if they if they abandoned the [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► mac how would you how would you make [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► iphone apps y-you they could in theory [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► the port xcode to windows and the story [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► would be okay if you want to write [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► iphone apps you have to use windows [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► I mean technically that could happen but [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► there's zero percent chance that apple [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► would do this 000 oh ok so let me ask [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► you this if if i say to you right now [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► John I wanted to write and post this the [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► story [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► oh and hang up and go would you go to [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► your Mac your ipad well i would go to [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► the back i do almost all of my work on [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► the mac but I don't dispute the fact [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► that there are people like federal [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► vanity oh and Ben Brooks who are the [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► more productive for them you know it's [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► it is you know for different people [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► it's is iOS could be like I see the [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► appeal of it I don't deny it you know [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► like I feel like I feel like that's [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► another mistake a lot of mac proponents [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► people who love the mac and want you [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► know really do it [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► hey there's some people I see it on [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► Twitter all the time when they say you [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► know you can't do real work on an iPad [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► and that you know that's wrong and that [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► the people who do are just sort of a [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► dilla tense you know that they're yeah [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► you know they're trying to it's like [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► being a hipster you know like [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► being a hipster you know like [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► you know what federico and Ben have done [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► some amazing things workflow wise [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► work-wise everything on their iPads I [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► use my iPad all the time actually use [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► multiple iPads all the time i love the [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► ipad but if I'm going to sit down and [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► and do some work [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► it's going to be on my Mac yeah just fit [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► either either my imac or my my macbook [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► pro that's what it's going to be for me [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► and you bet that's what I grew up with [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► you know what I what I did my business [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► with the the ipad the iphone all of [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► those things you know they the big word [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► is the computer in your pocket that's [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► absolutely true it is absolutely true [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► and I'd never force myself to use an [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► iPad or an iPhone to do you know like as [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► soon as the new product comes up people [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► say oh I'm going to use this for a month [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► instead of my mac i don't do stuff like [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► that [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► I i use it how it fits into my workflow [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► and it does it fits very good very well [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► into my workflow so I have things that I [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► can do with it but the mac for me is [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► still I mean I when I record and and [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► write music you know that's on the the [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► 27-inch imac that's a powerful machine [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► and you know when the mac pro the [TS]

01:01:26 ◼   ► macbook pro came out I had I had a logic [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► project logic is a you know that's a [TS]

01:01:33 ◼   ► professional level a audio workstation I [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► had 48 tracks running simultaneously [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► audio MIDI recording and i was editing I [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► mean this is all live and the macbook [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► pro had no issue at all with that it [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► just won't break through so they're all [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► powerful computers these days are we at [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► the stage where we actually don't need a [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► mac pro either the other kids are the [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► other computer powerful enough for [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► everything that we need to do i do think [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► that that's that's a legitimate question [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► I wish that apple would keep making my [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► pros and you know putting the fastest [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► intel processors they can possibly get [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► figuring out a very clever engineered [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► way to either reduce the need for a fan [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► or to make the fan as utterly silent as [TS]

01:02:29 ◼   ► possible because it's just one of those [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► things that Apple cares about that I [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► feel like if you know you had to use [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► some other company's computers it's like [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► they make more noise it's like you know [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► having a nice quiet computer is is [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► important to me and I think it's [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► important to a lot of pros and I think [TS]

01:02:46 ◼   ► that's what it's just you know it's why [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► people are Mac users people are Mac [TS]

01:02:50 ◼   ► users because they care about the [TS]

01:02:51 ◼   ► details and and like a computer that [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► makes noise makes makes them angry [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► whereas people who don't really care [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► about the details are like oh yeah but [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► makes a noise like a hairdryer who cares [TS]

01:03:00 ◼   ► i don't care i put headphones on you [TS]

01:03:02 ◼   ► know and it's like no its you just spend [TS]

01:03:04 ◼   ► a lot of money on this computer should [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► be silent [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► I'm so i hope they do but given the [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► evidence that they haven't updated it in [TS]

01:03:11 ◼   ► three years [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► I you know it's a legitimate fear that [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► their the messages know the max not dead [TS]

01:03:17 ◼   ► we love the Mac the Mac has a bright [TS]

01:03:18 ◼   ► future but the max future is imax and [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► macbooks what do you make of I what Tim [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► cooked in after whoever it was Bloomberg [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► i think they wrote the story about you [TS]

01:03:32 ◼   ► know that the mac is basically gone and [TS]

01:03:36 ◼   ► Tim came out in a Q&A and company might [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► hurt ya internally and knowing that it [TS]

01:03:42 ◼   ► was going to leak right of course [TS]

01:03:44 ◼   ► yeah they know they know all well I [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► guess what did he said we would do [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► anything to be they had great max in the [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► the pipeline right [TS]

01:03:54 ◼   ► I you know how he didn't specify but i [TS]

01:03:58 ◼   ► think he said great desktops in the [TS]

01:04:00 ◼   ► pipeline [TS]

01:04:01 ◼   ► I i think he said that which is you know [TS]

01:04:04 ◼   ► it could just mean imax it could I mean [TS]

01:04:09 ◼   ► people are still pining for Matt new mac [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► minis I think that's over I kinda do too [TS]

01:04:17 ◼   ► which is a shame but it's it's nowhere [TS]

01:04:19 ◼   ► near its it's clearly the least [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► essential product that Apple make [TS]

01:04:22 ◼   ► and I know that that's painful for the [TS]

01:04:24 ◼   ► people because that's the one thing [TS]

01:04:25 ◼   ► about it is that yes i think most people [TS]

01:04:27 ◼   ► who buy a mac mini are just typical mac [TS]

01:04:30 ◼   ► users who are on a budget and or you [TS]

01:04:34 ◼   ► know maybe they already have a display [TS]

01:04:35 ◼   ► that they don't want to replace and so [TS]

01:04:38 ◼   ► that you know why but why spend all the [TS]

01:04:39 ◼   ► money on an imac with its you know [TS]

01:04:41 ◼   ► gorgeous and in my opinion the best it [TS]

01:04:43 ◼   ► still didn't see over a year since been [TS]

01:04:45 ◼   ► updated but i think it's the best [TS]

01:04:46 ◼   ► display on the market period hands down [TS]

01:04:50 ◼   ► it's a unbelievable display mine i have [TS]

01:04:54 ◼   ► the one from the year before that [TS]

01:04:55 ◼   ► doesn't have the high color gamut and I [TS]

01:04:57 ◼   ► still think it's it's an amazing amazing [TS]

01:04:59 ◼   ► display i love it [TS]

01:05:00 ◼   ► I'm looking at it right now I had to [TS]

01:05:04 ◼   ► adapt you know but I realized that there [TS]

01:05:06 ◼   ► are also and I'm sure that they're [TS]

01:05:08 ◼   ► listening to the show I'm shirt i hear [TS]

01:05:10 ◼   ► from them all the time i get email from [TS]

01:05:11 ◼   ► that there are power users who use the [TS]

01:05:13 ◼   ► mac mini in various ways you know either [TS]

01:05:15 ◼   ► you maybe it is our main computer but [TS]

01:05:17 ◼   ► they you know they have very spendable [TS]

01:05:19 ◼   ► reasons why they want a mac mini and [TS]

01:05:21 ◼   ► then there's also the enthusiasts who [TS]

01:05:23 ◼   ► use mac minis as little you know like to [TS]

01:05:26 ◼   ► make their own home entertainment system [TS]

01:05:28 ◼   ► you know instead of getting an apple TV [TS]

01:05:30 ◼   ► they use the mac mini and they can run [TS]

01:05:32 ◼   ► all sorts of stuff and you know yet play [TS]

01:05:35 ◼   ► movies that have fallen off the Boston [TS]

01:05:36 ◼   ► and you know back of the truck and yeah [TS]

01:05:40 ◼   ► and over them [TS]