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00:13:21   it doesn't see you for a while if you and say hey you know what we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/801">TS</a>]

00:13:24   seen this computer or this disconnected to it in a while back up all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/804">TS</a>]

00:13:27   drivers are connected your computer external internal whatever you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/807">TS</a>]

00:13:31   back up it'll back that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   really it is the simplest online backup program to use just install and it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/813">TS</a>]

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00:13:57   sometimes you can make it back please back up anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59   I don't know this is supported so much anticipated backwards recommends so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/839">TS</a>]

00:14:03   is just an XML file that says which file should be included or excluded and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/843">TS</a>]

00:14:07   get to that XML file so that there are people out there who are like i dont [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/847">TS</a>]

00:14:12   wanna get back places I heard doesn't back up acts as of right now and as of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/852">TS</a>]

00:14:15   the entire history back leads you to make it back up anything you like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/855">TS</a>]

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00:14:21   backup tons of stuff that is by default it doesn't do and will serve you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/861">TS</a>]

00:14:25   it's hard to go to do hard coded in the sense that you can't change is hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/865">TS</a>]

00:14:29   coded into a visible in the GUI but if you just go to the XML file added you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/869">TS</a>]

00:14:33   can also send the UI has added options over the years like it used to be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/873">TS</a>]

00:14:37   think a five gig file limit something like that eight gig maybe you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/877">TS</a>]

00:14:41   change that to even even when that was just gonna change that right but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/881">TS</a>]

00:14:45   that's even in the GUI now you can even set out to unlimited if you want to so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/885">TS</a>]

00:14:49   you were complaining about PHP recently which in and of itself is not terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/889">TS</a>]

00:14:56   remarkable but you were complaining with a vigor and in angst that I don't recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/896">TS</a>]

00:15:03   having seen from you in a long time and I was curious what was the issue if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/903">TS</a>]

00:15:09   can share and have you tried anything different or you still just stuck in PHP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/909">TS</a>]

00:15:14   health so member when the brutal attack was coming around the pool attack was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/914">TS</a>]

00:15:21   for those of you who missed it it was basically one of the many as a cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/921">TS</a>]

00:15:24   shortcomings and vulnerabilities discovered in the past year and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/924">TS</a>]

00:15:28   basically completely breaks SSL v3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/928">TS</a>]

00:15:32   you you really should disable SSL three and four people to use TLS that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/932">TS</a>]

00:15:38   the gross overview please you know research if you want more details on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/938">TS</a>]

00:15:42   that score poodle anyway the problem I had discovered last night when somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/942">TS</a>]

00:15:46   kept me saying hey my podcast feed doesn't work in overcast dates and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/946">TS</a>]

00:15:53   had recently upgraded their SSL cipher suite and they are serving a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/953">TS</a>]

00:15:58   universal cell because they wanted to go all of us all so as we were saying 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/958">TS</a>]

00:16:02   minutes ago that makes makes some sense anyway I discovered through this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/962">TS</a>]

00:16:06   my PHP feed crawlers but you're using a lip curled on the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/966">TS</a>]

00:16:12   itself uses OpenSSL someone somewhere along the line basically refused to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/972">TS</a>]

00:16:18   anything but as a cell v3 and seemed to be totally ignoring any configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/978">TS</a>]

00:16:22   files I passed them to the contrary and do some quick searching around the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/982">TS</a>]

00:16:27   last night and trying to fix this problem I discovered there's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/987">TS</a>]

00:16:30   quite a lot of people complaining about this problem that like whatever they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/990">TS</a>]

00:16:33   doing what they're PHP absolutely using curl to crawl something they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/993">TS</a>]

00:16:38   breaking undersides of disabled 23 which is really obnoxious and basically there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/998">TS</a>]

00:16:45   is no good fix yet that I can find I'm hoping to find at least a crappy fix in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:49   the meantime but right-hander has basically no good fix like I basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:52   can't make this work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:53   it only if this is not the first problem I've had with PHP is version of as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:58   cell has escrow using it being totally out of date and and being a problem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:02   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:02   secondarily so overcast right now crawls something along the lines of two hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:08   and forty thousand RSS feeds every few minutes and it's it's doing a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:14   crawling of these feeds and you know it does it does the basic web stuff to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:19   hopefully get a 304 response with most features but you know obviously it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:24   still doing a whole lot of network requests and then a whole lot of kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:27   come back and then I do you know basic and b5 checking to see if it's as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:31   this is actually changed and then decoded the XML and do everything there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:36   and and so on the defeat crawlers are by far the vast majority of the costs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:45   running overcast they they take up almost all the server resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:50   almost all the RAM almost all the CPU power on the servers it's it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:54   all being taken up by the actual serving of the application and doing the sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:59   requests and everything is almost nothing it's it's no it's nothing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:03   service at all this is all doing to try to solve these problems at once I did an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:09   experiment last night I tried writing a basic feed polar in node what the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:17   problem I have with these with the street crime problem with PHP PHP a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:22   single-threaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:23   you know it's single process single threaded the crawlers all run on the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:28   know as as background tasks like terminal tasks being run by supervisor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:33   at a great little Python thing supervisor d so it's all being run by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:37   that and then being stuck you manage the whole thing so the Beanstalk you has all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:42   these tasks then these PHP Q processing process he's basically are they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:46   popping stuff all the things we've done right now this is running something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:52   along the lines of two hundred and forty processes simultaneously across 7 bps 07 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:58   so roughly 240 simultaneous consumers making this happen and that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:04   crushing these servers and taking up so much RAM and it's it's just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:09   really obnoxious and if this was the best way to do it I would just suck it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:13   up and just deal with the cost accordingly in India with all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:16   complexity accordingly but I decided you know what maybe PHP is not the best tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:21   for this job and why do you 7740 process like how big these processes I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:29   know why I think there's something like forty or fifty magazine that but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:33   you know it's it's under a hundred but still like the math isn't working out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:38   like so why can't you have two hundred and forty fifty make processes on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41   machine how is that not a lot and they should should be even less busy year for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:46   king of all the memory from the parent process is shared and the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:49   that's different is the pages you dirty during the the child process doing it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:53   work right I'm not doing a fork situation here maybe I should be looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:59   to that is running independent processes alright so this is just you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:08   crushing the CPUs in the machine its CPU seems to be the main limiting factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:13   here not Ram RAM RAM prevent me from running to meet him on 11 box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:17   economically but it seems like CPU power from a limiting factor here and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:23   honestly I have looked into exactly like what the most you know the single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:27   biggest function is PHP is notoriously very hard to profile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:30   know PHP profile not even with the the Facebook thing there is one there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:36   there there are a couple of profilers but they all kind of suck in different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:39   ways they're kind of hard to run in production yet it's kind of an ass the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:43   whole situation prevailing in debugging anyway which is itself a problem but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:47   anyway so what I really wanted here are some kind of parallelism that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:53   just process parallelism you know some like there's no way there's no reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:56   need to have a process sitting there taking up RAM taking up all the OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1256">TS</a>]

00:21:02   overhead of having a process to be sitting there waiting for each feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:06   individual data processing now you can do the one way you can do parallelism in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:12   PHP is you can do curl multi and i actually a while ago I wrote the feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:18   crawler to do this and it's less likely it is really not a good day so that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:26   the one thing you can do multiple things at once is you can execute a multi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:31   handled curl resource together at once but there's so many issues that need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:36   maintain the main reason is it's incredibly inefficient because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:40   you can't you can't provide a constant pipeline a constant Q saying okay as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:44   soon as you finish one had one from this list to it you have to like you know cue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:49   up ten frontier all 10 the slowest one will block called everything else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:54   then once you finished all 10 then I can give you more things to do so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:58   just a whole bunch of little problems like PHP again is is really not the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:02   tool for this job I heard note was good at this stuff and they really are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:06   looking into know it was because the reasonable one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09   get her camo project that missus camera project that I mentioned last week to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:16   an SSL proxy for serving big files that's written a note and I figured I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:20   want to at least look into what it takes to host this to myself because I can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:24   on Heroku but it's probably gonna be really expensive taste hosted also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:29   secondarily i you know I'm a huge fan of of the the event driven parallelism kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:35   of model like that I like that alot i've seen work a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:39   almost every good web tool these days that is that scales really well is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:45   event of a model memcache look at engine X obviously note itself this is really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:50   very good model and it's very practical for hosting big things like this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:53   you're able to make very very good use of server resources without risking over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1373">TS</a>]

00:23:00   running them too much I decided let me see how like I already know JavaScript a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:05   little bit I i'm not a job expert by any means the whole thing people do these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:09   days with all the crazy prototype stuff and try try to check system under Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:13   clunky is crap that's more than these days I know I know I know I've heard it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:20   in the seventies but it's whatever language for many things but I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:25   try a note and one thing this sounds really stupid when I installed note on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:30   you know you install node that was easy and and then I did a little you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:36   console dialogue hello world I didn't even know the console dialogue existed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:41   note I just knew it from presently exists and I i did that and I ran from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:46   the command line and just running the ring that program on the command line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:52   was so far confessed that is faster than PHP if you do lol in PHP it lowers the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:59   whole interpreter and it's not I wouldn't describe PHP s slow before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:03   tried this but once I saw that I immediately recognized oh my god this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:09   a different level of speed but this is insane how fast how could do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:13   hello world thing just launched in ran and again I know that's a stupid way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:18   measure things but it it was noticeable after using PHP for years believe me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:22   that's noticeable let me interrupt you right there a related story that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:25   you'll get a kick out of when I was living in Austin when I was in middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:29   school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:30   my dad and I wanted to buy a new computer and I don't recall what we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:33   at the time but living in Austin we decided to go to the one and only Dell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:37   store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:38   and I believe at the time we were looking to get was a Pentium Pro nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:43   and I will never forget going in to the Dell Outlet Store and the way we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:50   benchmarked all of the computers they had on display was watching them deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:55   solitaire hands because no ones that were really quick it dealing solitaire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1495">TS</a>]

00:25:01   at the time I thus far as I knew that was a CPU bound operation and so those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:07   that dealt the Saltair hands really really fast you knew that was a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:10   you wanted and sure enough the pentium pro dealt those things it was so fast it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:15   was a do I could even see it was so fast it was a myth that's awesome so I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:21   what you mean yes so anyway so I decide you know what let me just see you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:25   am NOT I really don't want to have to go and rewrite the entire feed parser the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:30   entire feed handler the decoder Howard normalize their the high put my database [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:34   how it you know I parse although I parse the episode descriptions to remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:38   harmful HTML tags and try to summarize them and make them oh nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:42   everything in there so much president that's already in PHP that has so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:46   like build up over time bug fixes and capabilities in dealing with crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:50   feeds like I have so much that over time but i wanna have to rewrite that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:55   suspect I can get a big savings out of having a thing in the front that fetches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:59   all the feed that's written something faster than PHP for this purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:03   official up that polls infection of the feeds and then only sense the PHP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:07   processes the actual changed because most of the request of the said are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:12   resulting in new information so that I bet would cut things down by enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:18   it would be worth it would be worth the hassle of running something else in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:22   front of it I decide to write this thing up in you know I stumbled through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:26   route through out at the ready to most of the day in getting you know figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:30   out how it works getting the whole you know your quest thing the Euro parsing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:34   nonsense like getting all the stuff and i know i guess i know there's a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:37   different library that make it simpler just wanted to do things in you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:41   the most loving way possible so I so I knew it was going on and so using as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:46   many new things using as many core modules as possible and try to minimize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:50   my reliance on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:51   on infrequently used their party code so I made a thing that would pull the feeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:56   every X seconds every X minutes and do basic 30 for tracking and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1616">TS</a>]

00:27:02   calling callback function when it has new information for the seats and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:06   loaded up and it starts flying through all of them and it was incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:13   until it just seemed to stop and I noticed all the sudden when two hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:20   and CPUs again it stopped using approximately 1.7 gigs of ram do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:26   know what happened casey Cumz you need JavaScript guessing that something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:31   wasn't cleaned up but no I don't know specifically what happen john didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:38   any node jazz program mainly due to open the browser and then in that case I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:43   to register download this notice no longer in the dock which amazing set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:50   Byzantine rules about what you can and can't reference from JavaScript there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:54   was no I don't know turns out the VA engine which I believe is based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:59   JavaScript just has a a remnant of like roughly 1.6 1.7 gigs at it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:07   garbage collector just kind of dies at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09   Java where you have to give an argument on the command line to tell it how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:12   space to use that I had to sell areas experienced recently work where I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:15   trying to run java command to tell me what version of Java add you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:18   whether its job ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20   job minus version it says sorry on the memory configuration then could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:27   filing it could be a dot files could be an environment variable have upset but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:31   whatever it is the situation and I were computer with YouTube job minus version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:34   and that's amazing I know I did not know that that was a thing though Marco that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:43   is news to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44   yeah and and you know the reality is like you you're just not expected to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:48   more than one and a half gigs of ram in a note process but anyway that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:52   thing and you can't change it obviously you can just run multiple processes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:56   split the load and everything's there's ways around it but it's still annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58   and again not only Php doesn't have its own set of obnoxious limitations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:03   badly documented options that anyway one thing I like is that everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:07   notice is stream and call back based and so even like the the MDN 5 calculator is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:14   streamable thing and so in the in the data call back for each year of requests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:18   and let you know if I don't actually need the body of the of the feed if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:23   you need to know whether it has changed I can just piped through the indy five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:26   hasher and just never keep any part of it and ran that could really cut this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:31   down so I did that cut it down substantially you you weren't doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34   in PHP no in PHP I was loading the whole thing I mean I was doing like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:38   basic eat a good if modified sense but if the server gave me a two hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:42   even at low pH [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:43   then I would do it every five over the whole body to make sure I do actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:47   anything is actually knew if you know if it is new I need to process it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:52   there's no reason to me to feed all in and then immediately fetchit again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:57   figured I might as well just process anyway so I decided to let me see for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:01   this new thing maybe I don't have to do that if if I removed that and if I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:05   that will anything that actually is new I'll just fetch a second time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08   like from PHP you know that's not the best scenario but let me see what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:13   duster and usage ran again and same things into that 1.6 gig limit pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:18   quickly if I make a note process only do say a quarter of the feeds I can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:24   this entire thing run and do that entire polling thing we're across them every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:30   depending on the drivers every two to thirty minutes roughly one process can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:36   cross 60,000 feeds like that and tell me with me when each one has actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:40   changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:41   with about 20 percent CPU power on one core and about 600 megs of RAM why did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:49   you have to split up into processes though couldn't you just have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:52   single process have a window of a quarter of the maximum window quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:56   it's quite sure where the memories going to get that they're all just streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:59   things through this just like one buffer is worth of stuff and see just how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:04   web request you have inflated once and you just keep that limit small then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:08   should work through you know your trading oh yeah I see I just have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:13   anyway it for process that much but now you got like a shopping problem where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:18   your divvying up the workload like manuel between them as we just make one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:22   process or one master process to do the job anyway so the problem there is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:27   when I first did this I initially went ok well how did you know let me look for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:31   node based message queue so mean to me that can carry the Beanstalk you there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:36   on the song has been stuck his has a number of limitations that make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39   kind of thing annoying to do with it so let me just see like hey let's do here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:44   and I looked up some some of the node message queues and I looked at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:47   source to one of them and it was like he was looking a hundred lines what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:52   doing and then of course it is doing setTimeout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:58   and so I tried ok let me let me write this entire thing you see is set as my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:03   cuing method and then when the function finishes at execuse the next one and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:08   works great now the problem is I then have no wait I have no straightforward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:14   way to to limit the number of simultaneous requests are kept in memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:19   of once where are you getting your work of work from your point when database [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:23   yeah someone just perform database and and chunks and you know just work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:29   your child can as things fall the end goal in new things you know you like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:34   you just need a window size of like this is my current set of things that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:37   working on as soon as you complete one a new one comes in and you could check the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:41   polls from the database you're not sleeping a single road the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:44   that I'm actually sliding all the rows at once like it to be like every every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:49   so often it just like you know so I D common URL from database and get to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:53   me this giant make you like never wanna do those queries like oh we say like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:59   anything it what would happen if I multiplied by three hundred and if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:03   answer is it blows up the discipline of saying never have everything in memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:08   oh he's always been advised by your buffer size like you know I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:12   how big the file is going to be working on you know X amount of it at a time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:15   don't get how many things jobs there are bigger than I can add as many at a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:18   and you know I don't care how many there are never going to let them always gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:21   go windows in most cases I would agree with you however the fact is the role of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:26   podcast is so damn small like entirely every podcast feed that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:31   about in all of overcast 240,000 of them and they grow very slowly like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:37   months ago and far between 20,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   the fact is I've heard I've heard the entire iTunes directory of some or all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:44   along the order of four to five hundred thousand you know in the role of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:48   database stuff these are tiny numbers really this is not a big deal I can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:52   like queries for stats and stuff with these ridiculous group buys ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:56   joins that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   on something with the size of tumblr you can even do what I can do that on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:03   tables because everything is so damn tiny if your unlimited by the crazy note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:06   memory limit you would have to do anyone doing it all probably if you write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:11   post it in the chatroom extra money no its side and it seems to confirm that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:16   there is a limit and it's less its 11 gigabyte in 32 bit machines 1.7 and 64 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:22   bit and it's recommended that you split your single process several workers if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25   you're heading memory limits which i think is pretty lame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28   go you want to deal with that crap actually i i I am interested in go you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:34   know theoretically however as stupid as it is the fact that it already know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:39   the JavaScript syntax even if I don't know a lot of languages like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:42   nitty-gritty details of the syntax a lot of the basic functions made a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:46   blood easier for me to jump into making something productive year this Marco are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:51   you familiar with NSURL session I thought about that too because you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:55   write and swift as a as a command line script I thought about that too but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:59   were never on it I have to get like a Mac Mini Colo kind of thing and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:02   like I can if i cant a runner on my line of boxes in my existing setup like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:07   kind of annoying doesn't cross compile those are no open source yet and also I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:14   don't think there's a whole I don't get a lot of reason to do it in with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:18   doctor see over node because the model be the same like you have basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:23   single-threaded networking you know what's up with all this event based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:27   callback stuff like that would basically be the way to do it and to see also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:31   double the smart way to do it whether it's that or know that there's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:34   huge gain to one of the other accepted anywhere so in the end you tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:39   something new which admittedly was new issuance of farmers like you said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:44   knew you knew the language but you tried something new it was a little jarring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:49   when I I went to some of the some of the pages from some of the modules and I on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:53   the ghetto page was last modified for years ago this is selling not but either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2153">TS</a>]

00:36:01   way you you tried something new to you and it sounds like so far so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:08   yeah I haven't deployed its the servers yet is that they will take a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   work and I'm actually about to go travelling so if you had time to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:15   messing with things but but I suspect as soon as I get back from this trip I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:19   most likely going to install this front end in place and have it take over all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:23   the polling and and maybe even the initial crawling if I can get if I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:27   figure out how to do the memory internet in a relatively efficient way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:31   or somehow overcome those limits but we'll see but so far I would say it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:35   a big success it was exciting I was very happy the whole day like I was I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:40   satisfied with what I was doing you know I'm a sucker for Speed that's that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:45   like I i'm I've always been a low-level night I love CEO and COO of using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:50   crazy effector functions like I I love all this crazy stuff to make things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:53   super super fast PHP can't do that for me like it's like this is a need it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:59   not serving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:00   PHP is not I wouldn't call it slow it is not a slow language as things generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:05   go but when it comes to massive parallel tasks like this there's no good way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:12   do it in PHP and notice is made for stuff like this it's really good stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:17   like this and said to have something with really pretty little effort that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:22   very easy to host that I think I'll find out about that report back later but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:29   it's like the boxes for me and the federal and all the crazy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:33   everything is a callback kind of stuff to write a whole lot happen this I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:37   it'd be pretty clunky I think it would definitely be called back held lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:41   weird spaghetti code time things like I i cant imagine running and i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:45   don't plan to but for four components or four simple things I can definitely see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:51   the value of it here and and so i think im gonna start mixing it in in places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:55   and see what happens I'm extremely happy about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:59   although it would be remiss of me not to point out that you've said in basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:02   the same breath that you love low level stuff and you love speed and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:07   talked about note which is a pedestal far away from all levels you can get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:11   like PHP was failing here because like the quarter languages slow because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:16   JavaScript is also another high-level language near them on the strength of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:19   the only thing I'm worried they'll have you know dynamic types all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:23   that is generally slow thing that was falling down is that PHP that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:26   provide our market wasn't going to try to to make happen the control at sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:33   the you know the process level that you know how you know how many if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:39   do something like that sounds like you can't except for that one girl not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:45   sort of part of the language and language support thing assuming that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:50   everything is a language for things he could have done that would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   sort of a step towards this it is but you know do you know so the mentoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:58   thing is baked into language example of the power of course you can do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:02   in there are multiple languages that are based on various you know event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:06   libraries or you could do like you could do it yourself and partly why he wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:10   to give you full access to all the units system calls to these things are just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:14   it that way as well so most cases all the languages were talking about her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:18   slow compared to you know it's easy but that's not the winning economic factors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:22   you were here they would spend wasting time and resources not doing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:27   you know process of you sucking I O eight or something like that right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:30   it's very inefficiently using the using the resources right intensity veteran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:34   things like well like I can't do anything more than just think I'll move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   on to the next thing I can actually do it working as an assessment data ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:40   for me because compared to the speed of the CPU the speed that I O happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:45   across the network is glacial so the CPU it was just like twiddling its thumbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:48   and you know give me something to do because this time I sent it is not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:55   to come back for another few million or billion cycles so I would like to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:58   on cycles doing something exactly and and also you know you mentioned yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:03   these are all high-level languages there are going to be slow compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:06   something like see but what my biggest frustration with PHP over the years has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:11   been everybody else who uses it and the people who make it like it's i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:18   don't say there's like this is not I'm not actually joking that like it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:23   like a handful of people are able to use PHP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:27   in a reasonable way in and they mostly keep quiet and don't participate in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:30   community itself has been so erratically and relatively poorly maintained over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:39   the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:40   third-party code for it is a disaster it's all over the map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:45   mostly being pretty bad it's getting a little better these days although it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:48   also getting really Java EE the whole the whole composer era of PHP and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:55   the Zend Framework era and all this job horrible the backslash how did how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2455">TS</a>]

00:41:01   how did that get through seriously the backslash as a as an operator as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:05   namespace the divider like why is the backslash anything but an escape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:10   character anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:11   PHP is is not maintained in a direction or to a level of quality that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:17   much confidence in the chrome JavaScript engine on the other hand is really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:23   and there's a there's a fantastic engineering company behind it that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:28   though I think Google is creepy as hell most of the time and i dont i dont use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:32   many of their products because i'm i'm just still creeped out by them you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:36   deny their engineering prowess is just insanely good the chrome JavaScript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:40   engine is something that gets a lot of attention there's a lot of incentive for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:44   Google to keep that being awesome like their whole company basically depends on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:48   that being off so you have this company with fantastic engineering resources and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:54   and throughput having a really good incentive to maintain this one component [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:58   this language is based on when you look at PHP and it's kind of all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:02   place it's it's sloppily maintain deploying as we are still so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:07   language shortcomings that will never be fixed a lot of the new directions lying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:13   just taking a really have really been questionable and I don't have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:16   confidence in Facebook's whole thing with with hacking HVM is its own pile of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:21   gains and losses you know that that that just shows how bad PHP is maintained at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:28   Facebook decided they had to do that and they are probably right even though this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:32   is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:33   the same class of language generally speaking I have a lot more faith in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:38   in the technical prowess and in the long term long term stability and long-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:44   efficiency of node then I do have PHP so if you were to write overcast today I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:52   think the obvious answer is you're probably right at the exact same way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:55   did but assume that your media little more comfortable with no than your day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2575">TS</a>]

00:43:01   but you're equally impressed by it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   what pieces of overcast do you think he would write note if any like for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:07   the overcast web interface that I would use it probably stands to reason you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:13   would still do that in PHP would you not I'm not sure it would make sense to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:18   maintain large portions of the app into different languages like that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:22   that would just be kind of a deployment nightmare generally I call them all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:27   one language as I said I don't like JavaScript enough and it's weird objects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:32   system and I don't like nodes lack of blocking calls to do a lot of a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:39   common website asks honestly I wouldn't pick either of them if I had to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:43   just one language for the whole project or in reality if the reality is if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:48   writing overcast from scratch today I would probably right with cloud kit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:51   just not even have servers be honest I mean that like and I thought about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:56   like to do I really need to still maintain the service for much like could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2636">TS</a>]

00:44:00   I move all of the user data to cloud kit and and just have the servers doing feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:05   crawling and had to be publically available to all the app installations I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:08   could do that right now there's not a lot of reason to do that but like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:13   was riding today and I didn't already have a server stuff in place and written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:17   I would probably do it that way instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:20   that's interesting and and if I would if I was gonna learn a brand new language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:24   to write you know a whole to replace PHP is my main web language of something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:30   was going to use for the next 15 years hopefully not but I was going to use for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:35   the next long time in my web development career I'm not entirely sure out either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:40   of them for that either like I think again I don't I love the whole event of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:46   a model a lot I don't love JavaScript or some parts of note enough and again I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:54   been using it for a few days so this you know this could change but go is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:59   very interesting to me i i don't know enough about it to know whether it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:02   be substantially better in this regard I like I like the idea of go being kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:09   this almost sea level language and being very very fast and very inefficient I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2709">TS</a>]

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00:45:19   could be a service that I can consolidate my life parties for the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:23   generation and just have this one language I can really deeply master and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:26   have it be available in both leagues I would love that but right now swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:30   can't really be a Web languages there is no open tools for it and everything so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:35   maybe in the future I don't know we'll see maybe maybe not can carry me over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:39   until you can run on server if that could ever happen but I wouldn't count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:42   on that happening anytime soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44   that's reasonable I was just curious and you know it I think that note is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:49   good at doing proof of concept that's really good at event driven stuff which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:54   is exactly what you're talking about using it for you can definitely get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:58   callback hell and it can get really ugly really quickly so even as someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:03   really likes node I completely concur with pretty much everything you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:08   said so yeah it makes a lot of sense but I am genuinely very proud of you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:12   trying something new and it's as self-serving is it may have been you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:17   typically are not enthusiastic about getting outside the PHP comfort zone so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:22   kudos to you Michael you can say it I never do it I'd never leave my comfort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:26   zone you can say that that's correct and and so kudos to you about something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:34   that's awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:35   me tell you about automatic automatic is your smart driving system on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:38   smartphone you may remember automatic from last week's show where this budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:42   is then to tell you about them again because they're just that good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:45   automatic dot com slash ATP that spelled the usual way automatic dot com slash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:51   ATP automatic monitors how you drive so you can monitor your fuel economy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:55   rechecking generic automatic signal for help in a crash and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2815">TS</a>]

00:47:00   the best part is that this intelligently monitors how you drive to tell you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:04   to optimize your fuel economy this gives you all the data you need to track your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:07   cost and efficiency every week I didn't give you tips on small change you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:11   make the save a lot of money in the long run automatically even make subtle audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:15   cues when you drive inefficiently to help guide you towards better habits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18   order to reach the goals you set for economy it if you celebrate too hard if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:24   you really slammed it or you break your heart it can it can be if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:28   and it kind of guide you towards better habitability know how I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:31   keep this level of average gas mileage fuel costs to below X dollars a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:36   and if you're not reaching those goals are driving you can have it gently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39   remind you if you want to install optional you can have a gently remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42   you to automatically save hundreds of dollars and gas containing your check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:47   engine light codes you don't have to go necessarily immediately to get your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:51   serviced efforts early minor error and also the getting help in a serious crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:56   this pretty cool so this you know if if you're in a crash crash it can use your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2876">TS</a>]

00:48:02   phone has it can you get your phone over Bluetooth they can use your phone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:06   call for help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:07   automatically because of course the name is automatic so it'd be weird if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:10   wasn't automatic automatically ready for help in the crash and this could mean no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:15   joke this could save somebody's life this is this is a big deal anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:18   there's even less serious things like a parking located [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:22   members where you park great stuff like this the app supports both iPhone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:27   Android and there's no monthly fees to use it there's no monthly service charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:32   all you have to do is buy the automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:35   I don't know what is going to call his dog bowls plugins don't go by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:38   automatic dongle up-front normally it was a hundred bucks now they're running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:44   a holiday promotion that brings it down to 80 bucks but even better than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2924">TS</a>]

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00:49:03   literally just 60 bucks one-time forever and it's free shipping ships in 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:08   business days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2948">TS</a>]

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00:49:14   automatic dot com slash ATP your smart driving assistance on your smartphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:17   thanks a lot to automatic dot com alright so this episode will be coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:23   out during Christmas week and a lot of people are traveling home during that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:28   time so John what do you recommend people do if you're particularly dirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:34   and technical and technological banned for your family who may not be quite so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:39   dirty question that comes up for tech nerds all the time during the holidays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:44   are a time when you visit relatives or friends or relatives who are less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:51   technically savvy the new sometimes there's an expectation formal or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:57   informal that you're going to help them with whatever problems they're having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:01   because it understands the the life of someone who is not tech savvy but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:06   was also a tech enthusiasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   the most people who are interested in getting its butt aren't really that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:13   interested enough to learn a lot about them so much against maybe they have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:18   iPad smartphone that the computer you know TV whatever they're interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:22   all these things and when they have problems they you know I can't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:26   figure out why it's not working maybe to spend some time in tech support maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:29   that's always a maybe they can tend to suffer in silence until a tech savvy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:33   friend or relative shows up and then it's like depending on what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36   relationship is between these people know maybe you can help me with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:39   thing and the formal version is just like parents who will say you just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:44   have a big Q a broken things in their house next time you visit hears things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:48   you're going to do to fix this look at that time he was doing that some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:53   like that responsibility some people don't like it I think it's you know kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:58   of our duty as technicians to help those in need and we can help everybody but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:04   it's like their families but she immediately that something you should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:07   this topic is so you're you're going to a friend or relative's house and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:13   is some expectation that you're going to help them with stuff like that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:17   want this from you what things should or shouldn't you do sort of on your own as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:22   part of your work in areas like this it's i cant get something to work or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:28   whatever you know what what should you do what you look for in their house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:32   potential problem areas again talk to the people who get the permission you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:35   tell them what you're doing and I'm going to scream at this time without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37   their permission is the assumption that they want you to help them and you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:40   offer other services I'll start off at the one that i talked about last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:43   which I still think it's a good idea there's a blog post about it back to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:47   to write a blog called to your TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:50   this is about high definition television sets most of which are configured out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:53   the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:53   not to show the full 1080p or 720p picture there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:58   configured to cut off the top bottom right and left edges by a certain amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:02   so you are buying a television and then there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:05   r looming the picture and cutting off parts of the texture and effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:09   running slightly zoomed in on native resolution but not quite accurate for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:13   pleasant that's bad and these days almost all shows and all appliances that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:20   you buy at the very least had some expectation that maybe this person isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/3140">TS</a>]

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01:19:10   which is I wanted to my sis chase each other on the screen and in the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4750">TS</a>]

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01:19:22   doesn't it has a loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:25   but it doesn't have a conditional you need if in while I don't think it's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:28   entering complete you could not I could not get their position and save them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:32   two variables I cannot I can I couldn't do math as far as I mean I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:36   the parliament do this and I could not as an actual program like 20 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:39   experience figure out how to do math in the xy coordinates a move toward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:43   Notification Center to move towards the air I didn't know calculations to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:49   one character move towards another right I can make them chase each other but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:53   they would only they would work to their positions like I had started chasing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4793">TS</a>]

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01:20:00   between where they are now in the destination and move along that line in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:03   increments they move smoothly the best I could do is make them chase each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4803">TS</a>]

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01:20:40   add to be mentioned to the parent tech checklist thing to mention iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4840">TS</a>]

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01:20:53   that your your family members ever actually sink their phone to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:56   computer setup onset of iCloud backup on their device because I've known so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4856">TS</a>]

01:21:02   friends family members who have lost photos of their kids and stuff because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:06   they like lost a phone or phone broke and it was never backed up anywhere is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:10   never sent anything it was never about cloud has proceeded iCloud backup being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4870">TS</a>]

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01:21:19   can probably gonna three plants that's an easy one to make sure their devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:23   are configured for iCloud for tobacco that is really good call another topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4883">TS</a>]

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01:21:30   12 you had put into the follow up above the talk about the spaces in the Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:34   authenticator thing mentioned that you can copy and paste those numbers and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:40   last week's show that came up I was talking about having to remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:44   numbers transcribe them which is what I have to do with that without a copy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:47   paste utility when I'm going between Mac and you know that some other device and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:51   my phone going on that I was devised you just you know don't think copy and paste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:56   thing which I forgot and so that happen in the show and like i think is maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4916">TS</a>]

01:22:00   like a miniature happen it after we discussed that I relayed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:03   information so if one point I said I'd remember the numbers into the pan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:06   Baba and then it out some of the chat room is just reminding me that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:09   copy and paste them for doing it and I was right the show's out came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:13   yesterday sometime Thursday yesterday and now I'm just watching the litany of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:18   tweets of people telling me that you know you can copy and paste the numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:21   in to go out and they did you know you can just copy them a dummy can copy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4941">TS</a>]

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01:22:30   1 I'm surprised at how many people to eat like in real time and I know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:34   that temptation I wasn't around online all the time and I say do not read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:39   anything about them waiting to hear the whole show is you have no idea they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:41   gonna get to this you know I know it's difficult but wait to the next hour here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:45   the whole show then send your snarky tweet is you know as soon as an overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:51   future of delayed yeah like I i mean you take it back right so so here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:56   thing with this I see these tweets right now I'm faced with this decision do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4976">TS</a>]

01:23:01   send a reply to the tweet that says just keep listening to this show because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:06   a Twitter completionist I haven't yet seen this three tweets are now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:10   going to say oh I guess you just said that on the show sorry so then I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:13   be replying to their tweet before they before they get there here's where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:18   think I came down at the thing about it for a while I think it's ok I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:24   say that it's OK for me to send that to me even though seven tweets up the can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:28   be saying that because twitter is much more real-time then recorded podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5008">TS</a>]

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01:23:37   just maybe as I'm typing the tweet their you know their listing in real time as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:44   they're not their paws the program or deposit as soon as they heard they sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:48   the tweet right I think that is a real-time medium that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:52   reasonable expectation for me to be able to apply to them just because I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:56   completely caught up in this five tweets about my time I think it's ok to reply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5036">TS</a>]

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01:24:14   an appropriate amount of shame in 30 seconds later on the podcast we describe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5054">TS</a>]

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01:24:29   reply to this to be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5069">TS</a>]

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01:25:02   like they get it the worst and luckily for them I am really behind on I'll talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:07   so well maybe that's unlikely actually because I forgotten when they tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5107">TS</a>]

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01:25:16   need to not do it I think it's okay for the same to an old episode like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5116">TS</a>]

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01:25:26   in the tweet I'm not caught up yet but I just listen to episode whenever wherever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5126">TS</a>]

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01:25:47   the show especially if the correction comes like a couple of seconds later and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:50   later someone sent me a link to something it in the eurozone's hopscotch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:55   is now turning completes like it wasn't just a programming thing I mean I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5155">TS</a>]

01:26:03   have been like tearing completing the same way the C++ templates attorney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:05   completely not intentionally so send emails during complete we've added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:12   conditional statements good job guys I mean presumably hopscotch is written by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5172">TS</a>]

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01:26:22   you write hopscotch using hopscotch I can make democracy is each other I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:29   know what to do math yet so probably so can do motion grahmeen maybe that's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSstrik/5189">TS</a>]

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