00:00:03 ◼ ► I'm with the show notes I don't know what we're talking about we're talking about your kid around the mills here of [TS]
00:00:12 ◼ ► Together said Dad Dario a good reference for Casey to get trying to lead him in gently. That is a better future. Boom. [TS]
00:00:25 ◼ ► So right Sam It seems man down the gentle slope is here right up on it by what I've seen Back to the future a lot [TS]
00:00:37 ◼ ► and I don't remember that at all as much as Casey. Yeah I am what I think would happen. [TS]
00:00:43 ◼ ► I am three hundred ninety seven tweets behind and I've declared bankruptcy like four [TS]
00:00:48 ◼ ► Yeah I think this might be the turning point in your life for a number of things not least of which will be that you [TS]
00:01:01 ◼ ► Well I've already been slowly embracing not being a Twitter completionist but I think that that is long gone now. [TS]
00:01:08 ◼ ► I know I mentioned do it to kids to say and I'm actually not that sleepy but I don't know what data is. [TS]
00:01:22 ◼ ► or Microsoft on this pod cast so you have that sleepy and I mean our time it is because it's been a blur. [TS]
00:01:33 ◼ ► Blurr Butler nevertheless you know only eighteen more years of already started to count that as you know parenthood [TS]
00:01:41 ◼ ► totally ends when they go to college you definitely worry about them as do their laundry or best case scenario. [TS]
00:01:46 ◼ ► So yeah yeah right there is a best case scenario is screw you dad I hate you I'm leaving [TS]
00:01:52 ◼ ► and you can never talk to me again. Now goes off to college on a scholarship family holidays and he goes off to get. [TS]
00:02:00 ◼ ► And they have kids and get a job and live the American dream of the white picket fence and blah blah blah right. [TS]
00:02:11 ◼ ► Aaron's mom is downstairs pinch hitting for me so I can talk to you two knuckleheads. [TS]
00:02:16 ◼ ► Which by the way in your to your defense neither of you were pressuring me to do this tonight such so make a point. [TS]
00:02:22 ◼ ► But anyways and then I've seen my parents and her dad probably four times in three days or something like that. [TS]
00:02:28 ◼ ► So yeah it's we you say that it ends after eighteen years but it doesn't have to train [TS]
00:02:34 ◼ ► or the other alternative is your son becomes a very important general in the the water wars that happen [TS]
00:02:46 ◼ ► and it'll be like Mad Max But instead of fighting over gasoline it'll be fighting over water because the earth will be [TS]
00:02:51 ◼ ► destroyed. Cool Well that sounds fun. I'm glad we brought him into the world for that. [TS]
00:03:02 ◼ ► Obviously you must have because this is this wonderful conversation this is most important. [TS]
00:03:08 ◼ ► This is definitely worth you having taken literally only two days and thirty minutes of paternity leave. [TS]
00:03:14 ◼ ► Well the thing is I don't want this show to turn into a total shock and I know you two [TS]
00:03:19 ◼ ► and I know you'll turn it into one if you don't have me guiding you along I mean you'll get through one item a follow [TS]
00:03:24 ◼ ► up and that's just no fun. Oh yeah I mean that the question came up on some podcast I did Forever Ago I don't know. [TS]
00:03:32 ◼ ► Somebody asked like you know if if this would be for the show just and when I went John [TS]
00:03:39 ◼ ► Someone once suggested somewhere publicly you know should be you know should me and John team up [TS]
00:03:46 ◼ ► and I believe my response at the time was it would never work we would need some kind of third person to like help [TS]
00:03:52 ◼ ► guide us along because the two of us would just talk forever and it would never end it would be very very boring. [TS]
00:04:00 ◼ ► Actually I have that clip easily available because I heard it somebody called my attention for ever ago. [TS]
00:04:06 ◼ ► Yeah and I saved it because I thought it was extremely pression tough it was billed and analyzed over twenty five. [TS]
00:04:16 ◼ ► and John Syracuse on the same show if you weren't there at all it would be terrible to be both his ramble on forever [TS]
00:04:25 ◼ ► And there'd be nobody drive us like like you drive us really well and know there will be somebody there to do that [TS]
00:04:33 ◼ ► and they were both of us there I think we both have so much to say that I think it wouldn't work like they would just [TS]
00:04:42 ◼ ► be no room for the host because they get to be talking so much about so much stuff [TS]
00:04:49 ◼ ► Ever that the host wouldn't have any time to to get a word in and therefore be almost absent [TS]
00:05:00 ◼ ► Yeah like I'm I'm very critical of my own past work though analyze it the first time I ever did any kind of pod casting. [TS]
00:05:07 ◼ ► Like I didn't have a show before that anywhere so I mean as as much as I am aware of my own flaws today especially [TS]
00:05:19 ◼ ► The old ones are even worse in every possible way like because I was so mad I was so new at it. [TS]
00:05:24 ◼ ► A lot of my personal flaws were were more honorable or more frequent than they are now and I and I know that [TS]
00:05:35 ◼ ► and it's it makes it very hard for me to listen to it. Plus I was just an idiot. What I mean was very exacting. [TS]
00:05:44 ◼ ► Sure no one of us explain like what the what's going on K.C. For the people who don't follow us on Twitter. [TS]
00:05:50 ◼ ► John you're in charge of explaining things no cases and trying to explain. Didn't lose a job right. [TS]
00:06:08 ◼ ► We had referred to him as sprout during his during her pregnancy because we didn't have a name even after his born we [TS]
00:06:21 ◼ ► And so he was due on the sixth of November we're recording this on hollowing because we're nerds [TS]
00:06:33 ◼ ► or she had him Wednesday morning at five thirty in the morning he was eighty pounds six ounces twenty inches long. [TS]
00:06:39 ◼ ► Every nurse that came to visit us said oh he's a big boy who dared feel thinking yourself. Oh so what does that mean. [TS]
00:06:55 ◼ ► and I I cannot even begin to put into words how unbelievable it is to see this little thing that we created especially [TS]
00:07:09 ◼ ► after it took us so darn long to get him here. And we'll put a link in the show notes about that to explain. [TS]
00:07:18 ◼ ► And so to actually have Declan in your hands it's just the most amazing thing in the world he he finally he finally [TS]
00:07:32 ◼ ► And so the two of us were bawling it was I'm sure this is the same for everyone but. [TS]
00:07:38 ◼ ► But yeah it was it was we were rock we were an absolute wreck but he is healthy she is healthy we're all adjusting. [TS]
00:07:51 ◼ ► and get this out of the way so I'm not stressing about how I'm holding up the works. [TS]
00:08:01 ◼ ► and then bring him in whenever he wanted food so we didn't have them give him a formula [TS]
00:08:09 ◼ ► and so we slept on reasonably well ask me tomorrow morning how that works out now that word. [TS]
00:08:16 ◼ ► But life is excellent life is super good I'm super super thankful super appreciative. I don't know what to do. [TS]
00:08:28 ◼ ► Oh so this is your first you haven't even had your first night home yet correct. Oh tonight the for oh boy. [TS]
00:08:35 ◼ ► Well congratulations first of all before you before you encounter tonight let's keep this happy so the congratulations [TS]
00:08:43 ◼ ► really meant we couldn't be happy for you I mean happy for him even John like you know the listeners might not know how [TS]
00:08:53 ◼ ► when John is is presented with a child he basically gets like giddy and is extremely awesome with the kid [TS]
00:08:59 ◼ ► and loves the kid and I was not over so I there are no that's true that's absolutely true. [TS]
00:09:09 ◼ ► but once you have your own kids the fear of children goes away so you don't feel like you're going to like break them [TS]
00:09:18 ◼ ► when you see anybody else's kid especially a kid to have someone of your familiar with there you feel like you ought to [TS]
00:09:24 ◼ ► but you can't because so that's why every time I feel Adam which is Marcos and I want to pick him up and I do [TS]
00:09:29 ◼ ► and he cries and just terrible but it is still in all fairness he cries and ever anybody picks him up including us. [TS]
00:09:37 ◼ ► Yeah it's not it is not a picking up a bad job I do not talking all the time like you just want to pick him up [TS]
00:09:43 ◼ ► when they're little like as now my kids are getting so big that it's hard to carry them around even though I still do [TS]
00:09:49 ◼ ► you know a little the little pint sized kids like there are two or three you just want to scoop them up. [TS]
00:10:02 ◼ ► and I mean a complimentary in a complimentary way I don't mean that nasty way at all he does. [TS]
00:10:06 ◼ ► John is an eighty year old grandmother noted so his eyes just get all super bright and shiny [TS]
00:10:11 ◼ ► and it's not working out yet I can verify that is not an exaggeration John will deny this [TS]
00:10:16 ◼ ► but that that actually is how excited he is. That's a reaction to dogs to be fair. [TS]
00:10:28 ◼ ► Probably going to start snoring even though I just told you I'm not tired. Just in general but have fun tomorrow. [TS]
00:10:36 ◼ ► Yeah no I mean for us at least like the first night was a transition because you know it's the first time where there [TS]
00:10:52 ◼ ► Well the case you can't feed the baby and I don't know that's why his job to take the baby so you can sleep well OK [TS]
00:11:00 ◼ ► So yeah I mean it is point you know that this is like you know case he just needs to try to be as useful [TS]
00:11:06 ◼ ► but he's at this point you're relegated to a few not very useful tasks because like you just you can't like most of the [TS]
00:11:16 ◼ ► There's not much you can do yet to help out you know except just be supportive not your head of the game if the babies [TS]
00:11:29 ◼ ► or setting us up for the well relatively long troll actually given that he's two days old it's an extremely long troll [TS]
00:11:35 ◼ ► because we're talking about eighty percent of his life but anyway he's actually been very sleepy for the most part [TS]
00:11:49 ◼ ► and I bet you anything that that's just like the oh new and you worked so hard for me [TS]
00:12:04 ◼ ► Some very newborn babies sometimes are sleepier than you would expect think that they sort of come to life the next few [TS]
00:12:10 ◼ ► But if you had a baby who was a really bad favorite You've probably heard by now you know you'll find out if you talk [TS]
00:12:16 ◼ ► to us all tomorrow. But so far it sounds like you know everything and everything is average. [TS]
00:12:33 ◼ ► when we had to record a next episode it's going to just bring you like oh my god it's time for that already. [TS]
00:12:40 ◼ ► Speaking of No I actually was going to share that just because I think I would get questions so my work gives me a week [TS]
00:12:52 ◼ ► So what I think I'm to do is without a shadow of a doubt I'm taking off all next week. [TS]
00:12:56 ◼ ► I think I'm probably going to take off the week after maybe maybe go back one day but I doubt it [TS]
00:13:04 ◼ ► but the third week I'm thinking I might actually stretch that and do you know maybe like a two [TS]
00:13:09 ◼ ► or three day week that third week and then to a three day week of work that is that third week [TS]
00:13:14 ◼ ► and then take another couple days the following week and you know kind of ease myself back into it will say [TS]
00:13:26 ◼ ► and are super helpful I mean Aaron's one of five kids so they've been around the block a couple times [TS]
00:13:31 ◼ ► and my parents are retired which is also super helpful because Aaron's parents are not [TS]
00:13:37 ◼ ► and they live outside Charlottesville about forty five minutes away so the good news is during the weekdays I can [TS]
00:13:48 ◼ ► and weekends I can have Aaron's parents help me this is the first grandchild on both sides. [TS]
00:14:05 ◼ ► Yes And so actually it's funny you say that because the way we came upon the name was my two siblings are Adam [TS]
00:14:20 ◼ ► and so we we were so daunted by how to pick a name that we needed some really ridiculous yet useful way of narrowing it [TS]
00:14:32 ◼ ► but I only needed twenty five letters of the alphabet by saying we're going to start with D. Because A B. C. D. E. [TS]
00:14:37 ◼ ► and That's just kind of cutesy and I think it's cool. So then it was well worth the crap because you can't use. [TS]
00:14:45 ◼ ► I mean Richard isn't our name but you couldn't use Dick because dickless doesn't work [TS]
00:14:50 ◼ ► and actually one of the things I've been worried about is I hope I didn't set Declan up for a really awful like second [TS]
00:14:58 ◼ ► through eighth grade stretch by Declan turning into Dak turning into a dick. Now he's hard dickless. [TS]
00:15:09 ◼ ► I hope not that's actually one of the one of the other names we were really considering which I'm not going to share [TS]
00:15:13 ◼ ► because I don't have half the Internet say to me oh you should use the other name. [TS]
00:15:17 ◼ ► But one of the ones we considered we felt we we eliminated because it's become super popular these days [TS]
00:15:25 ◼ ► and I am not one hundred percent convinced that Declan isn't also political in that category [TS]
00:15:31 ◼ ► Well whatever we're committed now it's all right does that mean that they're popular because people name them name [TS]
00:15:41 ◼ ► and to be fair having a really unusual name in school is not necessarily a social event actually. [TS]
00:15:49 ◼ ► and I mean all the girls were named Jennifer it worked out fine so my secret had a cannon as they call it for Declan is [TS]
00:16:01 ◼ ► Yeah it's funny because my little brother in law who he thinks he's like the king of movie trivia and really isn't. [TS]
00:16:09 ◼ ► I'm actually much better movie trivia than he is so that should give you a rough estimate as to where he stands [TS]
00:16:15 ◼ ► but anyway he reminded me that Richard Gere's character in the movie The Jackal was named Declan which I'd completely [TS]
00:16:21 ◼ ► forgotten about that's actually my my memory of the movie although I haven't seen in ten fifteen years is that it was a [TS]
00:16:28 ◼ ► pretty good movie all told and I think Jack Black was in it like a semi-serious role if memory serves. [TS]
00:16:38 ◼ ► and it's weird because I mean you were kind of alluding to this John I never liked carrying babies. [TS]
00:16:44 ◼ ► I mean I think I picked Marco up on earth like I had a mother is very small trade only [TS]
00:16:55 ◼ ► Anyway I picked Adam up a couple times I think but every time I'm like I'm a gunman drop my gun [TS]
00:17:02 ◼ ► or at least in my experience all it's all of that it just goes away and it's just this is what I have to do [TS]
00:17:12 ◼ ► and I'm so much more confident making decisions about him not to say it's all on me of course Aaron's really doing all [TS]
00:17:18 ◼ ► the work and I'm staying credit for it but you know figuring out a diaper is a sleepy whatever the case may be. [TS]
00:17:26 ◼ ► It's become so much more naturally once you're there in I still can't even really believe I'm a dad. [TS]
00:17:35 ◼ ► Yeah it's I'm so happy for you to see you going through this to see you enjoying all of this so I'm just so happy for [TS]
00:17:42 ◼ ► you and I are and I think the entire Internet is happy for you Aaron. Yeah I really appreciate it. [TS]
00:17:48 ◼ ► and I cannot think everyone enough if you happen to listen to my other show analog you'll know that I'm trying to come [TS]
00:17:54 ◼ ► to terms with not replying or favoring everything under the sun and so on. I haven't done that. [TS]
00:18:07 ◼ ► and I think anybody who has any sense whatsoever especially anybody who is a parent will totally understand if you don't [TS]
00:18:15 ◼ ► necessarily have time to respond to every single outpouring message of tweet an e-mail right now literally two days [TS]
00:18:24 ◼ ► Do these guns worry over this baby the first one is already got the list I thought I was a sleep deprived to do so [TS]
00:18:36 ◼ ► since you tried so hard to have this baby like as you had difficulty doing the show not your pretty you will just [TS]
00:18:49 ◼ ► Like that'll give you a little rocket boost for one is difficult because you always have that kind of in the back of [TS]
00:18:55 ◼ ► your mind like how hard you work for this and how much you want it over and over and I think that really will help. [TS]
00:19:01 ◼ ► and the second thing is like now you are you're being indoctrinated into a club of people who know how difficult it is [TS]
00:19:09 ◼ ► and you will now face a struggle that all of us face which is do not lord it over other people because of noxious. [TS]
00:19:15 ◼ ► But no actually it's funny you say that because you know a lot of our friends have already had kids [TS]
00:19:21 ◼ ► and so we always try to deny to be very understanding when you know something you have cancelled at the last minute [TS]
00:19:28 ◼ ► or or if somebody was really particular about oh I can't do that because it's nap time [TS]
00:19:35 ◼ ► and so it it never I never understood if we try to be understanding of what I'm really curious to see is how often we [TS]
00:19:43 ◼ ► play those cards now that now that they're in our deck you know well we just can't do that because Declan is going to [TS]
00:19:54 ◼ ► and sometimes it's the truth that's the beauty of it is that the other person will tell Yeah yeah. [TS]
00:20:00 ◼ ► Usually I think it's the truth. I mean for us it is rather the truth they have and showered in three days right. [TS]
00:20:08 ◼ ► No but you know but soon you will you know you will you will know firsthand like you know if when [TS]
00:20:14 ◼ ► when you know somebody who doesn't really know about you know how kids how life with kids works they will be really [TS]
00:20:24 ◼ ► and meet them for dinner you know half hour away on a random weeknight you know out of the blue for fun [TS]
00:20:31 ◼ ► and it's like really you know like that you'll see like the assumptions that people make before their parents about the [TS]
00:20:44 ◼ ► Just by nature of it being such a such a huge change in life the assumptions people make about how it is usually are [TS]
00:20:59 ◼ ► and not go out certain things you're not rejecting that because you want to be uptight. [TS]
00:21:04 ◼ ► You're rejecting it because you actually would prefer doing things your normal way to going out because the [TS]
00:21:11 ◼ ► consequences of going out are worse and it's not worth it if that makes any sense at all. Yeah yeah definitely. [TS]
00:21:18 ◼ ► And it's funny the things that that I made like I don't know if I should say medical declarations about [TS]
00:21:25 ◼ ► but for example the nursery in the house is I don't know ten fifteen paces away from where our bedroom is and Aaron [TS]
00:21:35 ◼ ► and I kept saying to each other in the first day you know the first thing we would say is Well you know I think we're [TS]
00:21:39 ◼ ► going to keep him in the nursery from the get go so he doesn't get too attached to some really you know get this idea [TS]
00:21:45 ◼ ► that he's always going to be next to us blah blah blah and the next thing we would say leading up to tonight was [TS]
00:21:53 ◼ ► And when we started talking briefly about what the sleeping arrangements were Tonight the first thing I asked why. [TS]
00:22:02 ◼ ► The second thing I asked was well actually when we just drop the Caspar Inn to Declan's room [TS]
00:22:09 ◼ ► So we're already all these promises we made ourselves like oh we're going to go out to dinner in the first month like [TS]
00:22:13 ◼ ► all pretty much all bets are off already we've had him for two days had no plan survives contact with the baby. [TS]
00:22:33 ◼ ► So it's been it's been a wild ride it's going to continue to be a wild ride I'm sure you guys will periodic we ask. [TS]
00:22:43 ◼ ► and then I will get to hopefully some amount of pleasure into a into a hearing you tell the story of Army baby number [TS]
00:22:52 ◼ ► two which come to think of it I don't think we talked about so congratulations to you as well. Thank you thank you. [TS]
00:22:57 ◼ ► That's happening in the spring but this is to write about you will leave that for later. [TS]
00:23:02 ◼ ► Well tonight is about other things too so we should probably do the follow up. All right. [TS]
00:23:10 ◼ ► Hover is the best way to hover is the best way to buy managed to maintain its cover as it of a megastar that doesn't [TS]
00:23:17 ◼ ► suck basically. That's my slogan not theirs but I think they should really take it. [TS]
00:23:21 ◼ ► You look when you're looking for you know a name for your project or you want to name for yourself [TS]
00:23:32 ◼ ► You search for what you need to browse the list you find something anything that is available which is increasingly [TS]
00:23:40 ◼ ► and then you go through some kind of horrible shopping cart where you know you guys say no to a bunch of add on [TS]
00:23:50 ◼ ► and check the box that says please don't spam and try to figure out exactly their wording there and everything and [TS]
00:24:00 ◼ ► Sound really vague that no one should say no to like I would like the freedom package please other seventy five dollars [TS]
00:24:08 ◼ ► So many record stores do however enter this market to basically be the opposite of that. [TS]
00:24:14 ◼ ► So hover is run by people who like other people who don't want to hurt them and know them [TS]
00:24:20 ◼ ► and it's just run by good people it is a very very sure that respects people so if you go check out you go to hover. [TS]
00:24:28 ◼ ► You search for what you want the search is extremely good it's fast it searches all the crazy T. [TS]
00:24:34 ◼ ► and it shows you everything available it does like some like language parsing a bit so that if you don't have quite if [TS]
00:24:39 ◼ ► they don't have quite what you want it can kind of show like alternate wordings are slight variations that might that [TS]
00:24:52 ◼ ► or crazy cross promotional crap used by the name you pay for it easily and you have it [TS]
00:24:58 ◼ ► and they do offer some add on services that are paid things like you know email hosting and stuff like that [TS]
00:25:02 ◼ ► but for the most part they give you a lot for free take it every domain come just freedom [TS]
00:25:09 ◼ ► and everything everything you need they also have a really good valet transfer service where you can transfer names if [TS]
00:25:15 ◼ ► you want transfer names from out from under the hover if you want you can have them do it for you you give them the [TS]
00:25:22 ◼ ► and they will do the transfers for you for any number of domains if you have one hundred remains they'll still do it [TS]
00:25:38 ◼ ► and they have a no hold no wait no transfer phone policy so you call them up and a human being answers the phone [TS]
00:25:53 ◼ ► but they were already good even before that anyway. Go to hover dot com O.-V. E.-R. [TS]
00:26:00 ◼ ► Like the British go to hover dot com and enter offer code Congratulations Casey to go. Percent off your first order. [TS]
00:26:08 ◼ ► Once again going to hover dot com or hover dot com to think how you pronounce it and in to promote promo code. [TS]
00:26:17 ◼ ► but anyway that's at graduations Casey thanks a lot to hover for sponsoring the show so quick story related to her I [TS]
00:26:28 ◼ ► When I told Marco and John that Declan was born all was well you know we exchanged a few messages about that [TS]
00:26:36 ◼ ► and then I believe as Marcos said to me all right here's what you need to do you need to buy Declan List dot com [TS]
00:26:42 ◼ ► and you need to get the Declan lists Twitter handle immediately before anyone else does [TS]
00:26:50 ◼ ► and market would you like to guess where I registered Dekel most dot com Go Daddy. Now it was that Hava. [TS]
00:26:58 ◼ ► Oh was it hover or was it hover. Actually was however I'm seeing so you're infecting K.C. [TS]
00:27:03 ◼ ► With your inability to pronounce that the British way they would tell you instead of trying to do it for Israel it's [TS]
00:27:19 ◼ ► Whatever whatever the business forever ordering system is apparently not that reliable so I have between zero [TS]
00:27:27 ◼ ► and three of them arriving I've only gotten ship notices for two which is the correct number that we ordered so we will [TS]
00:27:33 ◼ ► see how many arrive I've been charged for three but I think to get refunded automatically it two or to Jewish [TS]
00:27:39 ◼ ► and anyway they're on a boat or a plane or probably a plane. I think about it might be too slow. [TS]
00:27:49 ◼ ► We got a drop in a clip at the Lonely Island song which you don't even know what that is in fact I would be surprised [TS]
00:28:06 ◼ ► and I was already jump in the fall because I was I was already to segue from baby talk to the first item in the actual [TS]
00:28:13 ◼ ► Well I skip one as I say and the same way that Katie is bonded to his child it turns out that the glass is laminated [TS]
00:28:25 ◼ ► This is fall from a different pod cast I was originally a pretty bitter that I thought I thought of Gruber [TS]
00:28:30 ◼ ► and I were talking about talk show about the about the IMAX screen and talk about how it wasn't laminated [TS]
00:28:36 ◼ ► but it totally is I was thinking of the Thunderball display which is the same size [TS]
00:28:51 ◼ ► They have to be IMAX to have the laminated and lower glare screens like two years ago. Yeah yeah so anyway I'm a five K. [TS]
00:29:14 ◼ ► but some of the guests are just always without question just amazing in having the two Johns together. [TS]
00:29:21 ◼ ► Always a good time always worth listening even though you guys ramble on even longer than we do sometimes. [TS]
00:29:35 ◼ ► He hopes to get some just like smart speed for Gerber though because on the show to be shorter in fact the one you did [TS]
00:29:43 ◼ ► with Gruber a long time ago that was one of my one of my like top three test files like when I was making [TS]
00:29:48 ◼ ► when I was making smart speed that was what played most of the time it was the one where you open up saying you know I [TS]
00:29:54 ◼ ► had to get here as it was a good imitation Oh I see. Yeah thanks. When I had to do to get this to happen. [TS]
00:30:12 ◼ ► when we all got it about the unlimited plan because we was on the show that I talked about how I still have the [TS]
00:30:19 ◼ ► grandfathered eight hundred eighty unlimited plan and I don't remember if you guys had said oh that's crazy [TS]
00:30:25 ◼ ► or if the chat room had said oh that's crazy but somebody did. And look who's smart now because as the F.C.C. [TS]
00:30:33 ◼ ► Is said you know one nine hundred eighty if you're going to make it unlimited and then severely throttle after three [TS]
00:30:39 ◼ ► or five gigs of data I don't remember what it is. Well screw you we're going to sue you. [TS]
00:30:48 ◼ ► For this small stretch of time until this lawsuit is concluded I get to feel smug about it. That's really exciting. [TS]
00:30:55 ◼ ► Yeah I think ultimately the most likely outcome of this is either nothing will change [TS]
00:31:01 ◼ ► But there's nothing like they are not obligated to keep offering that plan every month but they're doing it. [TS]
00:31:11 ◼ ► Presumably because they figured it would do less harm that way to their reputation [TS]
00:31:23 ◼ ► when it comes down to real unfair unlimited speeds they're not going to offer that they're good and these plans. [TS]
00:31:30 ◼ ► Yeah but like I said for a brief moment in time I can feel smug. So John tell us about E.C.C. RAM please. [TS]
00:31:40 ◼ ► and how I still feel better about having like server class components and in particular E.C.C. [TS]
00:31:48 ◼ ► and the error rates of RAM you know have not decreased at the same rate that capacity is increased [TS]
00:31:55 ◼ ► and so the more RAM you get the more likely you're going to have these one bit errors not you know or whatever. [TS]
00:32:03 ◼ ► and I was like well maybe sit on my head like that I think I am then you know getting fewer [TS]
00:32:07 ◼ ► and going to the same thing getting pure kernel panics because the memory is helping or whatever [TS]
00:32:12 ◼ ► and you know who knows. But a couple people sent me this blog post I think I got this link from a scuzzy originally. [TS]
00:32:20 ◼ ► and he works I think in the data centers for Amazon so you know like those Google people all those people who have [TS]
00:32:26 ◼ ► fleets of hardware are like you know for example back blade giving hard drive reliability numbers you can get some good [TS]
00:32:32 ◼ ► good if you just have a tremendous amount of hardware and then you just start tracking everything [TS]
00:32:41 ◼ ► and decide you know the numbers are still small like how how many how many errors do you get in RAM how much data do [TS]
00:32:56 ◼ ► The main problem is that Intel I think still only puts you know controllers and everything for it [TS]
00:33:03 ◼ ► but inherently there's nothing about it that makes it so that it wouldn't be economically feasible to put in cheaper [TS]
00:33:10 ◼ ► stuff of Intel just didn't you know sort of segment their line according to this quote unquote enterprise future. [TS]
00:33:27 ◼ ► Yeah I mean if you see Ram like you know if I've said this before like I have always kind of felt that macros were more [TS]
00:33:33 ◼ ► reliable than than the other Macs I have never owned and I am active for a while so we had one in our house [TS]
00:33:48 ◼ ► and they always just kind of feel like you know there's always a conclusion all kernel panegyric even though you know [TS]
00:34:04 ◼ ► but they've been much more rare you know on the order of like may be made easier to want to year than laptops it was [TS]
00:34:13 ◼ ► more like you know one to three years and we're not talking big numbers here but it's enough that it matters. [TS]
00:34:19 ◼ ► You know if you do something really important or if they if they cause you to lose data. [TS]
00:34:23 ◼ ► But all that being said like I don't know because I haven't had a non macro Apple desktop before I don't know how much [TS]
00:34:30 ◼ ► of that is just because their laptops like you know like the power management stuff that you know transitioning to [TS]
00:34:35 ◼ ► nicely even everything like that something that a laptop has to go through much more than a desktop. [TS]
00:34:39 ◼ ► And there is in those different thermal boundaries and there are different thermal limits and so by that a laptop [TS]
00:34:47 ◼ ► and granted you know the all of Apple's desktops at the macro use a lot of laptop components like that [TS]
00:34:56 ◼ ► They're both full of bugs that the low end of each of those the one point four gigahertz crappy models are just macro [TS]
00:35:07 ◼ ► and stuff so I don't know you know I guess you know ask me in a year you know how much of a province ends up being I'm [TS]
00:35:20 ◼ ► when you're using just for that reason it's so hard to pinpoint the cause of those things ugh. [TS]
00:35:24 ◼ ► Right software could be like that because Argo I saw it gives people an idea of like well what could be a trivial D.Z. [TS]
00:35:34 ◼ ► and his big measuring measure of all these machines had about a third of their machines had at least one correctable [TS]
00:35:46 ◼ ► You're not really it's not the difference between constantly crashing and I like most. [TS]
00:36:00 ◼ ► You know put under more stress because they have more heat involved just more stuff [TS]
00:36:08 ◼ ► when you have a wife for example that these all why via bluetooth and everything and you know my mac pro does not so [TS]
00:36:14 ◼ ► or has to do things but anyway it's so hard to know what your tribute these are still [TS]
00:36:21 ◼ ► and that's why I'm sort of got this to do about I was like something in a similar class. [TS]
00:36:27 ◼ ► Going forward they would just make me feel better. So Mark are you planning on getting rid of your trash can. [TS]
00:36:33 ◼ ► If the five K. or All three of your five K.'s never show up. What's the intention there. [TS]
00:36:39 ◼ ► Yemen to sell it I mean it would be really stupid not to eliminate it would you know that I have no use for a for like [TS]
00:36:50 ◼ ► I've been thinking about maybe getting a mac mini for like a backup server kind of needs but [TS]
00:36:54 ◼ ► and by the way I every time I try can figure out a price out a MacMini in Apple store you know it just makes me angry [TS]
00:37:01 ◼ ► because it's like here's computed five hundred dollars but only if you get a terrible and like it. [TS]
00:37:11 ◼ ► and they go well at this point should be looking at a MacBook Air So it's so nicely designed to push you up the line [TS]
00:37:19 ◼ ► and the new the new mac Mini's have even less upgradeable than the previous ones that you know even a long upgrade the [TS]
00:37:23 ◼ ► RAM It's now solder on to the board and the disks are very hard to get to and you can see like you can't get an S.S.D. [TS]
00:37:36 ◼ ► It's just there are so many little restrictions in place to make sure that if you get a MacMini for less than one [TS]
00:37:44 ◼ ► That aside I mean this macro is probably still worth a few thousand dollars at least [TS]
00:37:48 ◼ ► and so it's it would be stupid of me to keep this around for you know file sorting tasks I mean I be better off selling [TS]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Now you're going to keep it around for like a month or two to see how you feel about the five K. [TS]
00:38:04 ◼ ► or Are you going to immediately unload it. Well it has fourteen days to win me back. [TS]
00:38:12 ◼ ► You know if for some reason the five K. Is horrible and I return it then I will go back to it. [TS]
00:38:16 ◼ ► But based on the reviews I mean everyone get these five K.'s seems to be loving them like I have not found a lot of [TS]
00:38:27 ◼ ► and from what I can gather what everyone's saying is that you can hear the fan if you're like playing a three D. [TS]
00:38:37 ◼ ► but if you if you're just doing other things even if you're stressed even if you're stressing the C.P.U. [TS]
00:38:46 ◼ ► Everyone's basically saying it's effectively inaudible so I'll see when he gets here. [TS]
00:38:54 ◼ ► and know someone someone played portal basically on their IMAX and record of the sound of the fan [TS]
00:39:00 ◼ ► and of course you can tell from recording how bad it really is because really depends on how close the mike was [TS]
00:39:04 ◼ ► and so on and so forth but you can kind of get a feel for the quality of the sound [TS]
00:39:12 ◼ ► when you really crank up the fans on a laptop you know I mean think of the sort of it's a thin package [TS]
00:39:18 ◼ ► It's got that kind of I couldn't tell her like the asymmetrical fan kind of like fuzzy instead of like the the wine [TS]
00:39:26 ◼ ► that you get from a from a small symmetrical high was a pretty big fans and so there's just one fan [TS]
00:39:36 ◼ ► but it's not nearly as big as like the macros I mean there's not enough room for a fan I think I have been looking [TS]
00:39:41 ◼ ► and to see if anybody has any any information on this fan like I was agreement before I ordered I fix it shows you what [TS]
00:39:52 ◼ ► I can find information on Apple's site anywhere else so I'm pretty sure it doesn't. [TS]
00:39:56 ◼ ► But the big difference between the MacPro fan and that fan. It's the same reason you know you can get X. [TS]
00:40:02 ◼ ► Ten horsepower by changing your intake manifold. Nine is much better airflow through further than you do. [TS]
00:40:08 ◼ ► Trying to bring bring air into the little slits or whatever the bottom of it I am agen [TS]
00:40:15 ◼ ► and opened up plenty of plenty of power this is not the knowledge is not working well for you know what I mean. [TS]
00:40:22 ◼ ► Yeah I mean literally I have never heard my macro fan ever like it matter what I do with this thing [TS]
00:40:29 ◼ ► and I don't play three games so I don't think I've ever stressed the G.P.U. Use and the C.P.U. [TS]
00:40:39 ◼ ► I've never ever heard of an honest broker and I don't I don't expect an actor match that that level of awesomeness [TS]
00:40:47 ◼ ► I'll be very happy with it and everyone's basically saying it's totally worth it because the screen is amazing. [TS]
00:41:00 ◼ ► and I gotta say that screen is beautiful it is it is absolutely the screen I would want in a mythical revised on a [TS]
00:41:08 ◼ ► thunderbolt display which as we've talked about many times in the past is going to happen for a long time [TS]
00:41:13 ◼ ► but I'm personally not a desktop kind of guy and so as much as I think that screen is beautiful. [TS]
00:41:26 ◼ ► and didn't go in because I didn't want like I want my new the first one I see and I know that stupid [TS]
00:41:32 ◼ ► and I know it's already coming like my little wait until it's going to get here Monday or Tuesday. [TS]
00:41:37 ◼ ► Wait until then you know so yeah but and I realize too like you know as I was talking [TS]
00:41:46 ◼ ► and reading people's reviews one of the great things about a retina screen for i OS developers is that you can run the [TS]
00:41:52 ◼ ► retina simulators at regular sizes when you have a number in a screen for those you don't know the retina. [TS]
00:42:04 ◼ ► and so it like a Retina i Pad doesn't even fit on your monitor most of the time searching isn't a laptop even even the [TS]
00:42:12 ◼ ► But right now i have i Phone six Plus it doesn't fit on anything either because it's so friggin big has three extra [TS]
00:42:19 ◼ ► and on a retina screen it runs you know these these things all run like at their retina size like at their like native [TS]
00:42:26 ◼ ► point sizes so they're they're smaller and you can there's that you can hit the command two [TS]
00:42:33 ◼ ► but the performance is terrible it doesn't look good so it just even just doing I.O.'s development there's a very very [TS]
00:42:40 ◼ ► good reason to have retina screens because it just it just makes it so much easier to to see what you need on screen [TS]
00:42:50 ◼ ► I mean I saw a screenshot that underscore David Smith pre-buy sim essentially the same one of him writing the i Pad [TS]
00:43:00 ◼ ► Code adjacent to it all on the same stream not using like spaces or anything like that [TS]
00:43:05 ◼ ► and there was still plenty room left over and I've done enough i OS development to know that's a big deal. [TS]
00:43:10 ◼ ► So I'm excited for you as much as it makes me grumble that you you should hand the trash can so quickly. [TS]
00:43:19 ◼ ► But anyway believe me it that makes me grumble just as much I mean it does not it is not please me that I spend a lot [TS]
00:43:27 ◼ ► of money on this computer that I thought I was going to have for a while expecting that I'd be able to get desktop [TS]
00:43:37 ◼ ► Came out like nine months later like me that's I guess ten months later that is not a great feeling [TS]
00:43:45 ◼ ► but it is a great feeling that the one I got the MacPro I got the resale value will probably cover the IMAX cost at [TS]
00:43:53 ◼ ► least most of the way I will see though. Now that's impressive. We have a little bit more follow up. [TS]
00:44:05 ◼ ► We're also sponsored this week by our own throttle unlimited friends back blaze that Blaze dot com slash A.T.P. [TS]
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00:44:30 ◼ ► There's an entire class of problems of this protect you from basically any anything that can happen physically to your [TS]
00:44:41 ◼ ► and the drive next to it that's your backup drive that you could have a fire you could have a flood. [TS]
00:44:46 ◼ ► You can have electrical surges and all sorts of weird issues like that if your data only exists in your house [TS]
00:44:52 ◼ ► or in your office. That's not really good enough if it's really that important to you. [TS]
00:44:58 ◼ ► and there's also because it's online they can offer you advantages like they have an app for i Phone i Pad [TS]
00:45:03 ◼ ► and Android where you can access your files that you've backed up on back to wherever you are you can't log into their [TS]
00:45:15 ◼ ► and I'm traveling with my laptop I can log into the site and pull that file right off the site. [TS]
00:45:19 ◼ ► All of this is just five bucks a month. It is so good I mean I I use it my wife uses. [TS]
00:45:26 ◼ ► I set up my mom with it when I was when I was there last time I just saw it on her computer [TS]
00:45:30 ◼ ► and so now I know my mom's all backed up now not to worry about it or she doesn't have to worry about it. [TS]
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00:45:40 ◼ ► You get great unlimited throttle online backup really unlimited disk space that is really impressive unlimited online [TS]
00:45:46 ◼ ► backup. Five bucks a month. Anyway thanks to back pleas for sponsoring once again. [TS]
00:46:04 ◼ ► Previously it had been using an alternative offsite solution that had experienced some silent data loss. [TS]
00:46:10 ◼ ► Two months ago are contracted engineers managed to actually delete all of the data from our rates at our local backups [TS]
00:46:18 ◼ ► of our most active projects were good and we had a backup of our e-mail store from the previous evening [TS]
00:46:23 ◼ ► but our local copy of our support files archives and financial data was found wanting. [TS]
00:46:32 ◼ ► and Bakley saved our business if it wasn't for the fact that back police force of the fact that we could get everything [TS]
00:46:42 ◼ ► or whatever then I can that I honestly believe that we would have had to shut the doors [TS]
00:46:46 ◼ ► and thirty people would be looking for new jobs. Thanks thank you to them and thank you to you guys. [TS]
00:46:51 ◼ ► So yeah that's the honest to goodness hand on heart that is pretty much for being I mean email we got so like Marco it [TS]
00:47:09 ◼ ► and masses of that that is not its own back up that you know like those things serve to reduce down time [TS]
00:47:17 ◼ ► and phonology is Hyperion stuff like that you know things like I want to expand this drive volume without you know [TS]
00:47:24 ◼ ► erasing everything you know so you can get convenience from raid but RAID is not a backup. [TS]
00:47:29 ◼ ► That's what red stands for RAID stance or it is not a backup that's why it's spelled All right a idee Exactly. [TS]
00:47:36 ◼ ► Just don't just don't as a geek what the eye is for every day everyone is going to mouth about the different [TS]
00:47:44 ◼ ► Right so a couple of the things that we should hit in follow up there's a couple quick ones and one not so quick. [TS]
00:47:53 ◼ ► I have used it twice both times for at McDonald's I don't care if you think that's gross because I like Nick. [TS]
00:48:02 ◼ ► and it was just as socially awkward as I expected it to be because I had told the clerk Oh how to eat how do I go about [TS]
00:48:10 ◼ ► using the you know Phone pay thinks I didn't want to say how I use Apple pay because I figured that they would be like [TS]
00:48:24 ◼ ► but eventually I realized they were near field communication isn't just near field communication it's like you stick [TS]
00:48:34 ◼ ► And once I got the phone a lot closer it prompted me to pay and it worked no problem. [TS]
00:48:39 ◼ ► And then last night I used it again in order to get a chocolate milk shake for air and [TS]
00:48:46 ◼ ► But it is pretty awesome and I'm really stoked to use it in pretty much any store I could possibly use. [TS]
00:48:53 ◼ ► And another quick one. Some lunch Shaolin men on Twitter. Let me see if I can find their actual name and night. [TS]
00:49:05 ◼ ► Magnus apparently went away as he had told us that there is perhaps a way to do upgrade pricing [TS]
00:49:13 ◼ ► or bundles to use bundles to do upgrade pricing in the App Store. I don't know if you guys have any thoughts on that. [TS]
00:49:23 ◼ ► and we talk about how terrible it would be because it's not it's like yeah you can kind of get a good price in that way [TS]
00:49:29 ◼ ► but trying to explain to people like I know you just want to get a cheaper way to get the next version of the program [TS]
00:49:38 ◼ ► but you'll both subtract the amount that you paid for the other one which is not the same as the amount that is [TS]
00:49:46 ◼ ► It's all this convoluted system and you know Mark in particular thought it was a bad idea I also agreed [TS]
00:49:55 ◼ ► If Apple didn't stop them and this is I think a screenshot from a German apps that are. [TS]
00:50:00 ◼ ► But anyway apparently someone has tried to do it is doing it and Apple hasn't stopped them yet [TS]
00:50:12 ◼ ► and it's kind of a mess where as Cochrane points out in the chat you have to still be selling the old program in the [TS]
00:50:17 ◼ ► store like the old version has to still be there which means that you'll have people buying the old version thinking [TS]
00:50:23 ◼ ► it's a new version and then there are so many like so many problems in practice with with this arrangement [TS]
00:50:35 ◼ ► and the more you try to wedge upgrade pricing into that system the more it's going to hurt your support costs. [TS]
00:50:42 ◼ ► Your reviews are really stupid your customers I think it's worth looking at our friends a super top bought [TS]
00:50:53 ◼ ► Before that they just released their new update and it's a separate after had to do that for various reasons [TS]
00:51:08 ◼ ► Some might that some try limits to it and then you got to pay and and so they do have the pricing with purchase [TS]
00:51:17 ◼ ► It's not like you know as secure you know I'm sure you could fake it pretty easily or hack your way around it [TS]
00:51:22 ◼ ► but who cares I mean that's not worth worrying too much about it's so obvious that Apple really wants people to to just [TS]
00:51:31 ◼ ► and figure out your monetization some other way like that's a user approach for that purpose. [TS]
00:51:36 ◼ ► It's so much better for so for so many use cases it's so much better for customers. [TS]
00:51:44 ◼ ► Like it's one of the reasons why you know that generates a lot of customer hostility it generates people you know makes [TS]
00:51:54 ◼ ► Not to say that you know free apps don't have that but if you can avoid making your app paid up front you should. [TS]
00:52:00 ◼ ► An apple is never going to make it easy for you to have upgrade pricing or or you know automatic free trials [TS]
00:52:06 ◼ ► or anything like that like they're never going to make that easy. The way forward is free app with some kind of trial. [TS]
00:52:12 ◼ ► There are limitations in our purchase to upgrade it and any other system is going to be a world of pain for you [TS]
00:52:27 ◼ ► Scheme in it a problem in accounts back and forth between the apps a couple once or twice [TS]
00:52:35 ◼ ► Well that's super top is the one that did it or one of the ones that did it isn't surprising [TS]
00:52:39 ◼ ► but the fact that they pulled it off was very impressive as an apple approved it was impressive. [TS]
00:52:46 ◼ ► and I certainly appreciate it as an unread user so you know even ignoring the using bundles as a great present just [TS]
00:52:53 ◼ ► bundles by themselves like doing the thing they're supposed to do like you know I would like these other applications. [TS]
00:53:05 ◼ ► but then have you know that my purchase of that other ones attractive from a sense of panic has a bundle now to know [TS]
00:53:18 ◼ ► and they have like a factor something trying to explain and I saw them supporting people over Twitter [TS]
00:53:22 ◼ ► and I think this is right and I've got no research and I don't know if any notes or whatever is going to my memory [TS]
00:53:26 ◼ ► but I'm pretty sure that like people are confused because they would have purchased one program [TS]
00:53:32 ◼ ► and they would go buy a bundle with two programs in it and it would be more expensive. [TS]
00:53:37 ◼ ► The bundle would be more expensive than if they just bought the second program themselves [TS]
00:53:41 ◼ ► and they would be confusing like isn't the whole idea of the bundle that it has two programs already bought one of them [TS]
00:53:47 ◼ ► and it's like actually more expensive to buy the bundle in the reason I think farmer has correctly is that the bundle [TS]
00:53:53 ◼ ► subtracts the price that you paid for the application not the price of the other applications have you bought the other [TS]
00:53:59 ◼ ► application. Like on sale for ninety nine cents for a twenty four hour sale or something. [TS]
00:54:03 ◼ ► It will only subtract ninety nine cents from the bundle so you could you could end up centrally finding a really [TS]
00:54:09 ◼ ► expensive way to buy that second app you just bought a second hand by itself maybe it's two bucks. [TS]
00:54:13 ◼ ► But because you're only getting ninety nine cents attractive in the bundle the bundle price was like you know six [TS]
00:54:18 ◼ ► dollars something you couldn't that's paying more than two bucks for the second half by buying the bundle which is also [TS]
00:54:23 ◼ ► not a good experience and weird I don't know if that's like it's certainly not obvious [TS]
00:54:29 ◼ ► or like anger against angry customers who you can't get in contact with leaving bad comments on your bundle saying [TS]
00:54:43 ◼ ► Well we're running out of things to complain about that Apple has done so in terms of apps or policies so why not this. [TS]
00:54:51 ◼ ► So what I want to quickly mention as well that we talked last episode about a tweet that Michael Gurr which had written [TS]
00:54:59 ◼ ► and simply summarized what is required for the different kinds of continuity in Iowa state Yosemite [TS]
00:55:07 ◼ ► and listener Jared sent a tweet that we open the show notes that has two links to you Apple K.B.'s articles that [TS]
00:55:15 ◼ ► explain what is required for each the different kinds of continuity so we'll put those in the show notes. [TS]
00:55:21 ◼ ► John how did you how would you like to eliminate support for certain kinds of devices in the Nihilists app you know [TS]
00:55:39 ◼ ► and tell you want to like sell sell something you know is not going to run on those unlike the A five guys are dragging [TS]
00:55:45 ◼ ► down have development that you can't make something really awesome because you have to support their fathers is no way [TS]
00:55:52 ◼ ► but like that Apple doesn't let you excluded by making up something bogus you know like checking for a screen [TS]
00:56:03 ◼ ► and tell us that one of the things you can specify as you can require metal support [TS]
00:56:08 ◼ ► and apparently metals not supported on until five devices I don't know the details but that's correct. [TS]
00:56:13 ◼ ► The problem is it's also not supported on the six devices so metal can require i Phone five S. and Up. [TS]
00:56:24 ◼ ► and The i Pad four which is annoying because the A six is a pretty good chip it's a pretty big jump over the A five [TS]
00:56:31 ◼ ► and it would be a shame to to lose those and so it's probably not worth most at except the highest end games. [TS]
00:56:40 ◼ ► and plus I think you know an Apple would still probably not appreciate it like if some pod cast app said I require [TS]
00:56:50 ◼ ► but there's a near like again there are many things you could possibly do that may be possible public ab eyes [TS]
00:56:56 ◼ ► but the only thing that actually matters is whether Apple frowns upon the practice so metal is one where you could say [TS]
00:57:02 ◼ ► OK why obliterate them and use I'm using metal as not supporting these things like that's fine [TS]
00:57:07 ◼ ► but what if you have a game that requires one of the sort of upper tier devices to work correctly [TS]
00:57:14 ◼ ► and you just can't scale down the views on lighting effect is like essential to your gameplay or whatever [TS]
00:57:18 ◼ ► but you don't use metal. You're still you know like OK well now I can check for some other G.P.U. [TS]
00:57:24 ◼ ► or whatever like that that it's actually the Seems to be used not only the apple not actively trying to support [TS]
00:57:32 ◼ ► and came up with a way to exclude those devices that they might you know smack you down with the hammer of the app [TS]
00:57:40 ◼ ► and I think these are in the shower somewhere a couple people sent us links to screenshots of things they bought on the [TS]
00:57:47 ◼ ► when they launch them on their sort of unsupported device like technically support a sort of the App Store is concerned [TS]
00:58:00 ◼ ► Maybe apps or of you didn't test this on every possible hardware and has no idea of this happening [TS]
00:58:05 ◼ ► and of Apple knew about that absolutely pulled from the store because I can't imagine Apple letting you do that [TS]
00:58:10 ◼ ► basically sell an application because Apple had a rule that like if your application doesn't meet a minimum threshold [TS]
00:58:21 ◼ ► and this app if you run into like an i Pad Mini just puts up a graphic that says sorry you can't play this game [TS]
00:58:32 ◼ ► So there's another place where developers have a problem in how Howard how do I develop my products how do I formulated [TS]
00:58:41 ◼ ► a business plan and how do I sell this product to people I don't even conceptualize a product that can be sold [TS]
00:58:48 ◼ ► and Apple is not quite doing enough to create an environment that lets developers do what they want to do in a [TS]
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01:00:56 ◼ ► So we should probably talk at least a little bit about the after show from the last episode which was talking about gay [TS]
01:01:15 ◼ ► Yeah I think you know I got most of the things I wanted to put out in the last week so if you haven't we didn't talk [TS]
01:01:19 ◼ ► about all the things that I link to but if you go back to last week shows and look billing system good stuff there [TS]
01:01:27 ◼ ► or at least I read it after the show there was one more that I thought was good they got passed around a lot it's worth [TS]
01:01:45 ◼ ► and he Simonson here you know is right as if it's the Hulk writing movie reviews sort of talking like cave men like [TS]
01:01:57 ◼ ► and then prevents a lot of people from reading anything. Right because it's all in caps. [TS]
01:02:02 ◼ ► So there are two before I discuss what he actually wrote about gay marriage. There are two things you will need one. [TS]
01:02:07 ◼ ► There is a fire there are many ways that you can you know you can just go in and if your web developer [TS]
01:02:12 ◼ ► and a stranger in the letter get really easily but the fire truck is actually making sense. Case for you. [TS]
01:02:18 ◼ ► So if you're going to try to read this don't try to read in all caps you'll probably go blind. [TS]
01:02:24 ◼ ► Look into the details of our first that's one link in the second link is an interview with the guy or not. [TS]
01:02:32 ◼ ► but asking him questions about why do you do this why do you write your movie reviews in all caps as if you're the Hulk [TS]
01:02:39 ◼ ► was the point about it seems like it's annoying you're reducing your readership is it a gimmick whatever's on service [TS]
01:02:49 ◼ ► but bottom line I find it very difficult to read very long things attacks that are all in caps [TS]
01:02:56 ◼ ► All right so anyway the actual article he wrote here this is from a perspective of sort of despair [TS]
01:03:03 ◼ ► and sadness about this thing has happened and he feels helpless to do anything about it [TS]
01:03:09 ◼ ► and it looks like a tar balls kind of like viewing a tragedy from afar like everyone is all just you know all these [TS]
01:03:16 ◼ ► people are smashing together and not understanding each other and there are bad outcomes and you know [TS]
01:03:26 ◼ ► and so if you if you're looking to read something to try to understand the people who find the whole movement sort of [TS]
01:03:42 ◼ ► but they think game again has been incredibly damaging and they try and they try to explain why. [TS]
01:03:48 ◼ ► I mean he's he's against gamer get as everyone is at this point I believe you know I don't most of the mainstream media [TS]
01:03:55 ◼ ► has come down pretty hard on the side of being against Camaguey But this is not like it's not. [TS]
01:04:00 ◼ ► Cheerleading for like we need to get those gamer guys I think it is a very very understanding and empathetic [TS]
01:04:07 ◼ ► and if you can get into the headspace of the people who are viewing this sort of not entirely from the outside [TS]
01:04:13 ◼ ► but more like I don't know it's super long. We should just give it a try and read it. Don't movie reviews are similar. [TS]
01:04:33 ◼ ► when I disagree with them so if you are if you are still feel like you feel like there's something of substance to game [TS]
01:04:44 ◼ ► and it's a little game where you have to try to turn into a sentence case before you get to read it without going crazy. [TS]
01:04:50 ◼ ► So that's it I didn't know and I go into it too far but the perchance even attempt to read this. [TS]
01:04:56 ◼ ► No I don't know if I can answer for question because it's really you have an excuse not to play the baby card thought [TS]
01:05:16 ◼ ► and now that I know that there's a way to take away the all caps I probably will but I looked at the link [TS]
01:05:21 ◼ ► and I looked at the all caps and I was like no I can't do this and I honestly couldn't be sure. [TS]
01:05:26 ◼ ► Like with the many things that he writes as one of the major complaints is like it's long [TS]
01:05:31 ◼ ► but there is there's a certain charm to maybe reading one of those things you know. [TS]
01:05:36 ◼ ► Anyway I want to talk around on my butt if morning because Man I wish I wish he were actually wrote this in the source [TS]
01:05:45 ◼ ► code in regular case and then just use C.S.S. Text transform to make an uppercase on display. [TS]
01:05:50 ◼ ► Then you just copy it out and as easy as way to change the lower case it just you know there's a sense of elegance [TS]
01:06:08 ◼ ► So there's there's always going to be a little bit of that Hulk flavor to it but he slips in [TS]
01:06:15 ◼ ► I found over the long haul and in the middle of things just us writing regular senses that happened in all caps. [TS]
01:06:24 ◼ ► Long song and still be better to right away finally done with follow up. I think we are yes. [TS]
01:06:35 ◼ ► So sort of tangentially related no with regard to people being on I don't made fun of losing the word I think trying to [TS]
01:06:49 ◼ ► Tim Cook came out to day is that right is officially came out as being gay and wrote a really good [TS]
01:06:56 ◼ ► and reasonably short piece about it and about why why he's saying it and what it's all about [TS]
01:07:03 ◼ ► and I definitely recommend reading it it is not in all caps it is written like you know like a regular human should [TS]
01:07:08 ◼ ► read write it it is not written like a superhero and it's a really really wonderful wonderful article [TS]
01:07:18 ◼ ► Yeah I'm I'm really happy he did this I mean a lot of people have to have assumed he was gay [TS]
01:07:26 ◼ ► and you know because it's not you know it's not other people's place to say really you know like if you didn't want to [TS]
01:07:34 ◼ ► and it's really it's it's sad really in our society it's sad that this matters but the fact is it does [TS]
01:07:46 ◼ ► Ideally you know your sexual orientation you know the sexual intuition of the C.E.O. [TS]
01:07:51 ◼ ► Of a big company shouldn't matter any more than like you know how they like their steak cooked like who cares like [TS]
01:08:05 ◼ ► and what the public needs to know about him his sexual orientation is not at all relevant but the fact is [TS]
01:08:19 ◼ ► Because society as a whole is still nowhere near even even mainstream let alone full acceptance of homosexuality [TS]
01:08:33 ◼ ► and not to mention there's a gender identity because so many many things were still a behind on. [TS]
01:08:38 ◼ ► So the fact is it is still very significant that he is coming out in public because that is that is still a risk in a [TS]
01:08:48 ◼ ► lot to a lot of people and that is still significant and I tell you I wish I wish he didn't have to but [TS]
01:08:59 ◼ ► Yeah that's that this type of issue you know people who make sort of the comment that like like you just said oh well [TS]
01:09:09 ◼ ► and the fact that he's writing an article about it to declare this is just such be ask is Why is he emphasizing this [TS]
01:09:16 ◼ ► really not important like it should just be if you just be you know sort of unspoken is no need you need you don't need [TS]
01:09:23 ◼ ► to throw this in my face you know or just saying like by by talking about it and by emphasizing [TS]
01:09:32 ◼ ► and really we should just all be equal in something like this is very similar to the sexism issue in that events like [TS]
01:09:40 ◼ ► If you view it in isolation as a by saying this you're drawing attention to the issue [TS]
01:09:50 ◼ ► but like viewing anything like that during you know any event or any action in isolation and then trying to. [TS]
01:10:00 ◼ ► Apply logic to him saying therefore this you know this is a logical to be doing this are you sure the making sense [TS]
01:10:05 ◼ ► because it's happening in the context of a world where we know that there is prejudice against gay people. [TS]
01:10:12 ◼ ► There are laws on the books that are you know that you can be fired for saying you're gay likes that like you know [TS]
01:10:18 ◼ ► that's the word of this is taking place in it which is why you know why isn't there a this is why I have to do this [TS]
01:10:27 ◼ ► Nobody is writing an article that a one page article on Business Week is getting this kind of coverage [TS]
01:10:39 ◼ ► We know how the context is that we do not live in a society where being married is something that can get you fired. [TS]
01:10:46 ◼ ► Something that can make people hurt is against you you know there are not huge groups of people who are just against [TS]
01:10:51 ◼ ► married people that we could live that society does not as arbitrary as you know trying to get a job as a married woman [TS]
01:10:58 ◼ ► who's thirty I didn't say women that's for the the woman issue like the women issue the same thing [TS]
01:11:06 ◼ ► and also I call that as a magnet as ball blood like it's happening and racism exactly the same in isolation. [TS]
01:11:15 ◼ ► but this event this person this action this thing is happening in the context of a society where you know where the [TS]
01:11:22 ◼ ► country the step slavery where there's massive institutional racism where millennia of oppression of women [TS]
01:11:29 ◼ ► and that is the context in which this action taking place and you have to view the things in context [TS]
01:11:34 ◼ ► and I think people have a reasonable time with this because people understand for the most part of this point I think [TS]
01:11:38 ◼ ► the context of you know being gay like they know gay people have been you know oppressed and discriminated against. [TS]
01:11:47 ◼ ► We know we're in the active process of trying to get our laws straight on this with marriage equality right. [TS]
01:11:52 ◼ ► You know just in the same way in the civil rights movement like I could see that this was bad [TS]
01:11:56 ◼ ► and now it's getting better when this transition that the problem is when you get it. [TS]
01:12:02 ◼ ► It's not a problem anymore like racism or you think it's never been a problem like sexism [TS]
01:12:06 ◼ ► or like us just the way things are you can remember no one is alive who is around you know for women who were getting [TS]
01:12:10 ◼ ► suffrage anyway. I am also sad mostly sad that he felt like he had to keep this part of them hidden for so long. [TS]
01:12:18 ◼ ► Not that I thought that is relevant to his job in any way other than making him empathetic to other people who are also [TS]
01:12:41 ◼ ► but basically this is part of me that I know I can't I can't talk about because there may be damaging consequences [TS]
01:12:50 ◼ ► For my career for you know for like imagine if you had come out as soon as he was named C.E.O. or Just before. [TS]
01:12:58 ◼ ► Like how that would you know that they could mess up our transition you know it's like it's such a shame that that's [TS]
01:13:05 ◼ ► the case is that that's the world that we live in that this had to be a carefully controlled thing where you know [TS]
01:13:12 ◼ ► and by the way speaking of carefully controlled in typical Apple fashion I think you did an amazing job in terms of not [TS]
01:13:24 ◼ ► or anything like that even though this is sort of been a persistent sort of you know rumor for a long time. [TS]
01:13:32 ◼ ► and saying it's not this is not something that you should be discussing the tech press because it's not a tech issue. [TS]
01:13:39 ◼ ► He came out on his own terms the way he wanted to and in a way that shows why he's such a great Apple C.E.O. [TS]
01:13:50 ◼ ► and everything to be like you know after after the transition from Steve Jobs after the Apple Watch announcement didn't [TS]
01:13:59 ◼ ► know and asking if. Apple can ever make another great product and it's just you know I have a lot of feelings about it. [TS]
01:14:06 ◼ ► I'm excited that he's out I'm happy that he is providing an example you know to more marginalized people to say you can [TS]
01:14:16 ◼ ► be whatever you want to be in life there are there is no glass ceiling that should be preventing you from you know [TS]
01:14:22 ◼ ► and becoming you know whatever you want to be first on all the way there are like the same way Barack Obama's you know [TS]
01:14:28 ◼ ► kids growing up in a world where there is a president who looks like them a long way to go on all fronts in these [TS]
01:14:34 ◼ ► things. No gay presidents no woman president no atheist presidents or trolling never happened in any of our lifetimes. [TS]
01:14:43 ◼ ► Oh yeah I mean like that's like you know before he came out it was like he was in a position of power you know he [TS]
01:14:50 ◼ ► wasn't he wasn't not coming out publicly because he was afraid if I do I always assumed that he was not coming out [TS]
01:15:02 ◼ ► and so he was choosing you know that from the position of power from the position of being in control. [TS]
01:15:07 ◼ ► But but but also because he knew this is the thing that did it that some people don't like. [TS]
01:15:11 ◼ ► Again he wasn't saying he's going to come out I'm going to come out as a left handed nobody cares like literally nobody [TS]
01:15:16 ◼ ► cares a left handed but he knows that there are people who do care that he's gay which is terrible [TS]
01:15:21 ◼ ► but he that is the context in which that is it is being made and you can keep saying like oh it's about my privacy [TS]
01:15:26 ◼ ► and it's like not coming out to say you have bad vision like no one knows you wear glasses or contacts [TS]
01:15:31 ◼ ► and secondly a health matter is like private information available to question do you wear glasses. [TS]
01:15:36 ◼ ► That's private information sorry warm reveal that people think you are crazy because there is no context in which you [TS]
01:15:44 ◼ ► when people throw those issues of like welts privative ration should not to say they were your health information like [TS]
01:15:53 ◼ ► The only reason we think sexual orientation is privatised so many people in institutions the laws that are prejudiced [TS]
01:16:02 ◼ ► and that's why I think you can't an ever hear of people making those comparisons in the direction of like context it is [TS]
01:16:10 ◼ ► You know you can look at this from from the way of like you know well what you said in a more powerful message never [TS]
01:16:26 ◼ ► and I think you know you can argue either way but I think you made the right move. [TS]
01:16:30 ◼ ► Coming out publicly because I think if if being gay was more suicidally accepted then it would make sense for him to [TS]
01:16:39 ◼ ► just never addressed personal matters he didn't think were relevant to his job. But because we're not there yet. [TS]
01:16:47 ◼ ► But why would he like that if if if we were in a society where nobody cared he would never have felt the need to hide [TS]
01:16:53 ◼ ► in the first place because they don't like you don't you don't hide your left handedness like no one to care so you [TS]
01:16:58 ◼ ► know it really over the air they were never probably going to be that over nobody nobody cares because you know human [TS]
01:17:03 ◼ ► evolution takes longer than that right. And who knows if a person liking for the right things to this point anyway. [TS]
01:17:11 ◼ ► and do this in the context of the world that we live in there is a good way it can happen there's a better way that it [TS]
01:17:17 ◼ ► and not having it at all is perhaps the worst outcome because then it would feel like he was the most powerful. [TS]
01:17:25 ◼ ► and even he felt it wasn't safe for him to do this right because of the world we live in so I'm glad that he did it [TS]
01:17:32 ◼ ► and I'm glad that he did it in a way that was positive like that was not negative it was not he was his hand was not [TS]
01:17:45 ◼ ► and had disrupted things a lesson Be careful you better you better stay in the closet of your powerful C.E.O. [TS]
01:17:52 ◼ ► That would totally be unfair but that would be the takeaway for the if you know if there was a problem with it [TS]
01:18:00 ◼ ► And it's been universally positive as far as I can tell. I mean even the timing was masterful. [TS]
01:18:05 ◼ ► Like there's not a lot going on in Tech this week he's not like it doesn't appear as though he's like trying to like [TS]
01:18:18 ◼ ► The in the Apple product cycle like they've already announced their fall products we're not going to hear from Apple [TS]
01:18:22 ◼ ► again for the rest of the year in all likelihood the next major Apple event is going to be the spring whenever the [TS]
01:18:32 ◼ ► and holiday shopping so it's like it's like a perfect little window or like nothing else is really going on. [TS]
01:18:37 ◼ ► It's not going to appears that this is some kind of political move some kind of like you know move for Apple's [TS]
01:18:42 ◼ ► political gain because it's not like you could tell that this isn't this was not for that reason. [TS]
01:18:47 ◼ ► Moves like this it just seems over and over again man Tim Cook is so fricken good. [TS]
01:18:54 ◼ ► Like so good in his of his I mean if anyone had any doubt watching watching what his you know what Apple has announced [TS]
01:19:15 ◼ ► No question I'm still sore about the sixteen sixty four storage but that's fair. Yeah that's fair. [TS]
01:19:25 ◼ ► or The lands on him because he had because they're grown so there's you know there's still room for improvement. [TS]
01:19:31 ◼ ► Steve had some moves to him in well no he totally He totally They all had their idiosyncracies just like I knew what I [TS]
01:19:40 ◼ ► and Tim Cook I can only speculate at this point like Well Apple did a thing I don't like. [TS]
01:19:45 ◼ ► Was that despite Tim Cook's better wishes or was he the one pushing for it or neither [TS]
01:19:49 ◼ ► and I have no idea because I don't I don't know if it was personality I think one thing we can say about Tim Cook is [TS]
01:19:55 ◼ ► that he is exceptionally deliberate. Like he does not do anything he doesn't want to do. [TS]
01:20:03 ◼ ► He does not do anything without really thinking it through like he is extremely you know his actions his statements [TS]
01:20:12 ◼ ► they're all very deliberate you know it does it doesn't seem like he's holding back like you know even like me on [TS]
01:20:21 ◼ ► and stuff like that like you can tell you know he's not he's not like holding back [TS]
01:20:25 ◼ ► and trying to calculate every move because he's afraid he's just you know he is extremely deliberate in you know this [TS]
01:20:33 ◼ ► is what I'm going to say this is how I'm going to say it I'm not going to talk about the things like I'm not going to [TS]
01:20:41 ◼ ► Unicorn super watch thing like you know just very deliberate that's that's the that's what I can use I think it's a [TS]
01:20:52 ◼ ► or his writings that had the best one liner about this thing in the chair this joke went around a lot of now. [TS]
01:20:59 ◼ ► but knowing Apple a new take on actually what is a good like general purpose you know any of our like Goblin koala [TS]
01:21:12 ◼ ► and saw the tech industry that every time you get an i Phone The new one comes on you feel sad. [TS]
01:21:20 ◼ ► Joe Yeah it doesn't work to anybody who actually pays attention like they release them every year at about the same [TS]
01:21:36 ◼ ► Was that you trying to do Merlin's comics like a lumber gimmicks to with when how and how. [TS]
01:21:47 ◼ ► Thanks Bloodsworth responses this week Hava Bachleda Lynda dot com and we will see you next week. [TS]
01:22:06 ◼ ► John thank you for giving me as I said to that list and it will save Microsoft banned for next week. [TS]
01:23:02 ◼ ► People have already it's for sale you know store and buy right now. They announce it like ten P.M. Like two years ago. [TS]
01:23:11 ◼ ► It's We'll talk about Actually I think about the ones my other exciting arrival was exciting as Casey's. [TS]
01:23:20 ◼ ► But I did actually buy myself an S.S.D. Wos That's huge congratulations. I'm calling him Declan. [TS]
01:23:26 ◼ ► Yeah she called discipline have a have a diskless not nice. I finally gave in because it is couldn't take it anymore. [TS]
01:23:36 ◼ ► And I knew it was going to painful and it was because I guess I had a one point five terabyte drive [TS]
01:23:49 ◼ ► and I I was spending a lot of time in discriminatory acts trying to find where am I going to dump the two hundred [TS]
01:24:00 ◼ ► So damn slow I first the first only goes my virtual machines so I put on another spend as got my point everything all [TS]
01:24:06 ◼ ► been you know doing some final clones of the drug before I pull it out and then I have to take take that Delta [TS]
01:24:10 ◼ ► and put it somewhere as putting the Delta down on to this knowledge and then I was cloning that thing out [TS]
01:24:16 ◼ ► when it was a little files like my old eye for a library that I like to have there was like ninety gigs like a really [TS]
01:24:24 ◼ ► So many little files and the spinning this takes so long to back them up and just talk for you [TS]
01:24:40 ◼ ► Think I pulled everything else off on this analogy and up and running and it's nice I got a Samsung eight fifty pro [TS]
01:24:48 ◼ ► It's just everything is so much faster so I think I gather you're in the space that I've basically decided I'm not [TS]
01:24:53 ◼ ► going to get the five K. Back I'm going to cruise with us for another year with the program. See what happens. [TS]
01:24:58 ◼ ► Yeah and more or less to deal with the i Phone Now I'm going to a pedophile and I haven't got it yet [TS]
01:25:10 ◼ ► Other curious like six hundred bucks is expensive for a terabyte for a terrible idea. [TS]
01:25:18 ◼ ► or like a few lesser pros like the new hotness is an attack as a good review of it it's not that much better than of [TS]
01:25:28 ◼ ► Like I'm not going to be using this as a stay for a long time until I carried with me across my next machines right now. [TS]
01:25:34 ◼ ► When I was little you know bus power cases for something which is a great thing you can do this is the really easily [TS]
01:25:40 ◼ ► Three it's not you know it's not that slow and I want to be using it as a backup drive and stuff but it is nice [TS]
01:25:50 ◼ ► and yeah all those ball the spinning disk you want to hear and what I'm going to cry and cry because it was terrible. [TS]
01:26:00 ◼ ► Priorities I'm about to pass out we do titles why are you tired for some reason I got here hit me like a wall like ten [TS]
01:26:07 ◼ ► or twenty minutes ago on dying off so don't worry you'll have a solid sleep tonight. [TS]
01:26:19 ◼ ► but the first one you can take all the pictures that all of them over the like ones like another baby. [TS]
01:26:24 ◼ ► Margaret OK so a quick aside before you titles so we got a My guess is two thirds camera that they want to try [TS]
01:26:31 ◼ ► and block recommended and I really really like the limp is so and I think that's probably slightly wrong [TS]
01:26:38 ◼ ► but anyway look at the tools and toys website they have the worst model names they really do. [TS]
01:26:50 ◼ ► and it's funny because I as I'm taking like thirty five photos of him sleeping and doing nothing. [TS]
01:26:55 ◼ ► I'm thinking to myself there's no chance I'm ever going to look at this picture again changed into teaching I'm already [TS]
01:27:01 ◼ ► that parent that's taking photos sting of him doing that string to him doing nothing to change [TS]
01:27:08 ◼ ► You can extrapolate that out again of the organization where you're putting your photos into folders by day it like [TS]
01:27:16 ◼ ► that's out the window. Yeah. By grabbing your number of photos taken for a day I haven't looked since yesterday. [TS]
01:27:22 ◼ ► How many pictures I've taken of Declan and to be fair I'm shooting in RAW and j peg which is also probably silly [TS]
01:27:32 ◼ ► and of course there's like a zillion duplicate of him sleeping where he moved to you know three centimeters across [TS]
01:27:40 ◼ ► But in the few days that he has been alive I've taken by my estimation somewhere between Definitely more than six. [TS]
01:27:48 ◼ ► I would guess closer to ten gigs of pictures are freaking wedding the photographer took out ten gigs worth of tickets [TS]
01:28:02 ◼ ► Yeah that's true but I'm so stressed about my wedding photographer took pictures on film. [TS]
01:28:14 ◼ ► and we had to pay a bazillion dollars they had been like professionally scanned to actually get around to that around. [TS]
01:28:20 ◼ ► But we also that we also have the negatives all your digital pictures will be gone but our wedding will be preserved [TS]
01:28:25 ◼ ► and my parents are actually going in taking boxes of V.H.S. Tapes to Cosco to get them to put them on D.V.D. [TS]
01:28:35 ◼ ► and I'm sure that's why I don't know the details in terms of cost but I do know that it's heinously expensive. [TS]
01:28:41 ◼ ► Well it's not that's not like my parents are that with maybe you know how do they get a millimeter millimeter they [TS]
01:29:05 ◼ ► Tapes that we'd like to get transferred but like I'm not crazy but it is like you know milling them off to somewhere [TS]
01:29:10 ◼ ► and maybe we should do it do it or read kind of set up like some like one to one place and one in other places [TS]
01:29:15 ◼ ► and percent of all individually. So Season titles so I had to give you a photographic Tip two tips. [TS]
01:29:24 ◼ ► Number one the secret to good photography is lots of babytalk. Yeah well still won't get there. Yeah. [TS]
01:29:44 ◼ ► Capturing motion while Declan is not doing a lot of motion. Yeah because kids move very very quickly. [TS]
01:29:53 ◼ ► I assume it has interchangeable lenses like most Micro Four Thirds you pay attention when you [TS]
01:30:06 ◼ ► Well there's actually two reasons I convinced myself to get a lens that was I think almost as much as the body if not [TS]
01:30:12 ◼ ► more than the body which for someone who's never had a fancy camera that's like Are you kidding me I am spending more [TS]
01:30:21 ◼ ► Anyway the one of the reasons was because it focuses silly quickly although I haven't really gotten a grip as a grasp [TS]
01:30:38 ◼ ► or at least I think I do I'm not a very good photographer obviously but the other reason I wanted to get the lens [TS]
01:30:43 ◼ ► and we ended up getting and I could tell you what it is but I forget I just know what it goes really really low F. [TS]
01:30:49 ◼ ► Stop. It's like one point four one point you discovered blur. Oh God Boca or whatever it's called be OK each. [TS]
01:30:56 ◼ ► It's my favorite thing in the world. We're going to have everybody telling us how to pronounce. [TS]
01:31:01 ◼ ► Here I don't actually know a great president there are only I've only ever read it I've heard book I mean it's it's [TS]
01:31:06 ◼ ► based on a Japanese word and so you know we're going to argue about how to pronounce it doesn't matter [TS]
01:31:18 ◼ ► or feeling like the market was saying practice figures you know like infants are terrible little pink worms started to [TS]
01:31:26 ◼ ► learn to write like they don't like they don't do anything exciting if they do anything that looks cute it's accidental [TS]
01:31:32 ◼ ► like it's it's gas it's whatever right you what you're gearing up for is honing your skills for when they turn two [TS]
01:31:38 ◼ ► or three and start doing the super cute stuff like intentionally and by then you'll be an old pro at it. [TS]
01:31:43 ◼ ► So this is all like a lot of this like batting practice like figure out this figure out your camera figure out for [TS]
01:31:50 ◼ ► toggery figure out the best places in your house to take pictures in terms of natural lighting [TS]
01:31:56 ◼ ► or two good shots where the good looks like he's smiling or making a funny face or. [TS]
01:32:07 ◼ ► And yes if you can the more light you can get the better as long as it doesn't come from a flash that's on the camera [TS]
01:32:14 ◼ ► and I don't think you're beginning to flash it up so yeah as long as it doesn't come from a flash the you you want to [TS]
01:32:25 ◼ ► and you're going to be obsessive player for a while keep in mind that while blurred background does look good in most [TS]
01:32:32 ◼ ► cases your subjection always be completely in focus for the most part I mean yes this is a rule for divers can break [TS]
01:32:38 ◼ ► ones that break the rules but the most common thing that I see and I went through this phase briefly in their noses [TS]
01:32:44 ◼ ► and yeah OK I don't like F. One point for a new prime lens and you have like a centimeter of depth in focus. [TS]
01:33:01 ◼ ► and like the blurriness of the back on the look cool temporarily until you realize oh I can actually see any of the [TS]
01:33:12 ◼ ► So the mention of like Baron is behind holding the baby OK we're out sorry you're outside my one inch thick you know [TS]
01:33:21 ◼ ► Yeah and I think that I'm I am doing that I am guilty of that for sure and some of that is because I really want that. [TS]
01:33:36 ◼ ► but it it's it is really nice to have an actual camera rather than the i Phone as much as I do love the i Phone's [TS]
01:33:43 ◼ ► pictures and I got to tell you I am not used to having any sort of physical shutter [TS]
01:33:49 ◼ ► and it is really damn satisfying having that that shutter that machinery move about in your hand as you're clicking the [TS]
01:34:00 ◼ ► It's deceivingly satisfying for someone who grew up with physical cameras you know with film cameras. [TS]
01:34:05 ◼ ► Yet my show Micro Four Thirds does it have a viewfinder in a mirror. There's no there's no marriage. [TS]
01:34:11 ◼ ► Mero us so he's not he's not here in America classier years here in the shutter correct. [TS]
01:34:16 ◼ ► OK that's kind of like Marco's car right. Just play the shutter sound for a lot you'll turn that off. [TS]
01:34:27 ◼ ► when the shots go off like I may be again an old person I need to hear that sound right I was. [TS]
01:34:38 ◼ ► or not like you go Don I don't understand people who do but for cameras. I mean I guess. [TS]
01:34:45 ◼ ► when you press a button like they have an established history of of keyboards but it's like [TS]
01:34:49 ◼ ► when the keyboards on the screen it's not close enough whereas the camera's I held that made that noise back in the day [TS]
01:34:54 ◼ ► felt like these cameras like they were physical things this is not a camera on a screen like I would never like the [TS]
01:35:03 ◼ ► but I can't believe this is this is a shocking revelation that you leave on an artificial shutter sound effect on your [TS]
01:35:10 ◼ ► eye camera that I would never have guessed that I mean doesn't have to be a shutter senators need. [TS]
01:35:14 ◼ ► I think I just need to have something especially as my cameras like have cheap cameras so the slow like it doesn't take [TS]
01:35:20 ◼ ► It's not ready to take a picture immediately the flash takes a long time to recharge even without the flash takes a [TS]
01:35:25 ◼ ► long time for the image processor to be right like it's not it's not a pro camera I don't have like real cameras so I [TS]
01:35:31 ◼ ► need that little clicking as to know when the picture run off and you know when I can take the next one. [TS]
01:35:36 ◼ ► So it so what do you what do you have. Now I thought you had like I would we had we had we had a Canon five D. [TS]
01:35:43 ◼ ► Mark to from my brother's wedding like he borrowed it from him part of my day not only and [TS]
01:35:50 ◼ ► and I had that for like a couple days surrounding his wedding to take pictures with [TS]
01:35:54 ◼ ► and I shouldn't have done that because it lets you know what a real cameras like you know I you know but. [TS]
01:36:03 ◼ ► and I'm one of the super zooms which is why I stick to it is kind of like you know a really big zoom lens that's not [TS]
01:36:15 ◼ ► but you can do you know I want to go to the beach the ocean pictures where the kids are in the waves [TS]
01:36:19 ◼ ► and I'm standing up to my waist in the water I can sell you a picture of them when they're out farther. [TS]
01:36:24 ◼ ► If you're twelve feet tall so super zooms are very versatile like they're not they're not going to take really good [TS]
01:36:29 ◼ ► pictures but they are very versatile for situations where you can zoom with your feet. [TS]
01:36:37 ◼ ► when it's up on stage you know doing something or across a field or at family events forever [TS]
01:36:42 ◼ ► and sitting around in the backyard I can grab a closeup of someone who is on the other side of the yard for me it looks [TS]
01:36:47 ◼ ► really good because it's bright sunlight because the camera you know cameras and the like. [TS]
01:36:53 ◼ ► and super zooms are getting almost kind of respectable not still not going into like an interchange of a lens camera [TS]
01:37:01 ◼ ► but the recent super zooms especially the new signing on I forgot the model number for it have somewhat decent sensors [TS]
01:37:08 ◼ ► sort of on the level of the Micro Four Thirds things or sometimes even better attached to a non changeable [TS]
01:37:19 ◼ ► So it has served me well well enough anyway especially with a doom's like if you want to see a good childhood [TS]
01:37:37 ◼ ► and they take a pose to really cute pictures they have they have a new baby as well [TS]
01:37:42 ◼ ► and they they demonstrate how to take good pictures of a baby who is otherwise not very interesting because you know it [TS]
01:38:02 ◼ ► and it's unclear yet that baby's ridiculous your baby like why don't you look like a baby sandwich kills us every time. [TS]
01:38:16 ◼ ► We told you every word you both agree this is like the cutest baby in the world. Totally agree. [TS]
01:38:20 ◼ ► Oh it's so true it is absolutely true but that you can tell from the sound of your voice that you're just dying [TS]
01:38:26 ◼ ► and in the best possible way his adorable he hurts me when I look at him like stoppings [TS]
01:38:30 ◼ ► and then you get the little videos where it is a dancing and everything is adorable. We do titles before I die. [TS]
01:38:40 ◼ ► So cute I don't want to go pass out by pass out I mean get woken up by my screaming baby as soon as I shut my eyes. [TS]
01:38:46 ◼ ► He's so cute. It's worth it. I'm not complaining. Babies aren't that cute baby grand I.Q. [TS]
01:38:53 ◼ ► Until they you know they're like oh you know first I deferred months they're just now I'm my first baby was this [TS]
01:39:00 ◼ ► terrible you're still not sound like you have all external sentence reference for his yellow pre-loaded for you. [TS]
01:39:15 ◼ ► or if it's hard to find since his video clips I wish there was like a clearinghouse for them but anyway. [TS]
01:39:27 ◼ ► and I was not going to actually watch the Simpsons the movie wasn't better than you know a good episode was the one [TS]
01:39:32 ◼ ► that was the movie the one pinchy No that was an epic and I was a good one though. [TS]
01:39:39 ◼ ► and I go to bed I mean staying up all night so you guys as you wake up all refresh [TS]
01:39:47 ◼ ► but I actually like a played like you can because we've been there and done that not only that [TS]
01:39:52 ◼ ► but I'm so excited to like not sleep I will take this problem over any of the problems we are running into for three [TS]
01:40:03 ◼ ► and that will help Harry over the other thing is you but you can look forward to is like. [TS]
01:40:10 ◼ ► but I'd like Eventually you will back to work you know if you become more retain and remember like [TS]
01:40:19 ◼ ► or whatever I would just be so excited to come home because I knew that's where my children were like coming home like [TS]
01:40:27 ◼ ► or the one kid would be there was seriously it was like I would realize that I was at work I was excited to go home [TS]