00:00:00 ◼ ► How do we always have this much talk about even when we have nothing to talk about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/0">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► Blabber mouth and that's where you can get more out of your system I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► and you won't have much to say here because I'm definitely don't want to bow guarding the mike of the three of us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/8">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► It's John and he was always my job because you invented fart is not really that big of a surprise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/13">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► I put all this all up you guys can provide all been to you know you know we don't believe in following up on things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/23">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► because we're just always right. Undo is being right. Adding additional information. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/28">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► People ask on the like on the earning calls Come get some more color on that would provide more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/36">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► First item is that new reversible U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/42">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► Connector that we talked about many many many shows ago they have a report of the final at the spec [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/46">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► and released a bunch of images of what the connector is supposed to look like if you look mission out you can see it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/52">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► We have like mock ups before we already knew that it wasn't going to be like lightning it wasn't going to be a solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/58">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► metal thing with contacts on the top and bottom but rather was going to be more like an existing U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/63">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► Some kind of shaped metal shell and then inside the little metal shell is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/70">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► but inside there has been a picture of the innards is like a little hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/76">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► and then in the thing you plug it into There is a little board with contacts on top and bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/79">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► and anyway it's difficult to explain look at pictures in the show notes you can see what it looks like it's not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/85">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► exciting to look at I guess I mean it's got to it's basically like a rectangle around and caps on the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/90">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► and left side that I guess is not much more to say about except there's one comment on the art I think a story which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/97">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► will link from PETER BRIGHT who is known for being wrong about everything all the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/106">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► Yeah that's kind of his reputation. Way to put it gently How do you really feel in a pleasant way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/113">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► Not even on the form that he knows lots of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► but one of those whenever there's a choice to make one decision other based on subjective criteria he chooses wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/123">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► It's this like the John Surtees equivalent of bless his heart now. Anyway he wrote in the comments. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/128">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► The big question is Where are the sprung parts U.S.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/136">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► Traditionally get this right putting them in the cable which is cheap and easy to replace. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/139">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► Apple did it wrong putting them in the port which is expensive endeavor to replace when he's talking about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/142">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► when you have a connector were two contacts pressed up against each other one of them has that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/147">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► or both of them have to have some give to them otherwise you would have to if they were both completely rigid you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/151">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► and you had to have these little you know metal things touching each other exactly one of them you want to be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/156">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► like a spring so it is a little bit of what's going on you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/160">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► Then they move back and forth the spring will account for that motion by staying in contact with the thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/165">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► And traditionally it is like one rigid part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/170">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► and one springy part of I suppose you could do to spring apart to work the same and Lightning connector. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/172">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► The little thing you plug in is Steph you can look at the little metal solid metal thing with contacts on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/176">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► but inside the connector are these little kind of springy finger things that are with no connectors in it they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/183">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► closer together than the connector than the within the connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/190">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► when you shove the connector in it presses the springy things apart so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/193">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► when it's inserted in there the connectors are pressing against the contact areas of the Lightning connector with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/196">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► little bit thing staying contact with each other. And Peter is saying that in U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/203">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► The little springy things are inside the connectors so if they get on springy or they start to get loose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/210">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► or whatever fine you throw it out the cable you get a new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► and enlightening the little springy things are inside the connector itself so the cable doesn't matter if those little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/216">TS</a>]
00:03:42 ◼ ► springy things get loose you need to replace the thing that the cable connection to which makes some sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/222">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► but the big question always is what is the expected lifetime of those friendly things at the expected lifetime of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/228">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► little springy things exceed the expected lifetime of the device then you're fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/235">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► If it doesn't then you have problems presumably Apple took us into account. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► I like the idea as if I could run the patches that the Lightning connector is you know is very physically robust it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/242">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► and good of metal that does have very fine connect contacts on it which I guess is just the price of being small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/250">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► and having you know you need like what is it for connectors there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/256">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► Forget how many are lighting I guess again they are this thing look older than eight. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/260">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► I think they had any side room yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► Anyway it's a lot of characters in a small place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► but the connector itself like there's nothing to snag on anything you can bang it around and it will probably be OK. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/268">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► It seems more robust to me than a similarly sized connector the U.S.B. Three you know U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/275">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► Type signature is bigger than lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/281">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► but not that much I think we went over the exact size in the meters on the previous episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/282">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► but it's hollow so it's got this really skinny shell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/287">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► and inside the little shells a little gap where the thing plugged into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/290">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► and I'm not sure how durable that will be compared as now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/293">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► He's right there's like well if you have to replace something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► when you rather replace the cheap cable then replace buildings of you have if you had something fragile into your cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/298">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► like your connectors are fragile and you I think you know stepped on them or they got dropped inventor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/304">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► or whatever also what you buy a new cable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/310">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► So it's not so bad for the connectors to be fragile of the springy parts is a good point there I'm not quite sure how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/314">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► that's going to work out in practice I don't think lightning has been in the market long enough for anyone to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/319">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► Lightning connector device where the little springy things become and springy or get permanently bent up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/324">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► Well what's interesting is that this actually might be a good design in Apple's part because it certainly seems from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/331">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► the sound of people complaining when lightning came out that the cables might outlast people's use of the devices. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/337">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► Well they still have the little you know little string really sleeves on the edge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/347">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► Sure yeah like those things those things always wear out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► but I'm saying like I bet I bet that the average person who has more than one i Phone in their life they probably keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/352">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► Why do you like it was really annoying to me when I when I bought lightning cables when when F.M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/360">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► Five came out because I had accumulated so many dock able to over the years that I wanted to like you know at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/365">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► partially matched my collections so I could have all the convenience of having these things everywhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/370">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► I bet that the head of cross somebodies mind at some point in an apple in a home center that actually you know most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/375">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► people replace their i Phone every one to two years. Where are these cables might hang around for five years or more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/382">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► Well the thing about the cables I do I also have a lot of old cables hanging around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/388">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► but I would imagine the part that fails in the cables I guess that is not the connector part of the unwinding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/393">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► or even the dock connector which is crazy wide thing with very weird you know tiny contacts in there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/397">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► I'm still amazed at the connector ever worked. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/403">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► but it said it's the the wire itself especially the strain relief parts for people who are not delicate with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/409">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► and yank it out eventual ie the part where the wire goes into the connector starts to fray one side goes doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/415">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► that your Connector is still fine the whole wire is dead. You could be right especially for phones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/421">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► Unlike a two year replacement cycle contracts in the US that the cable my out of the thing the thing about I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/426">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► said lighting hasn't been around for a while for a long enough for us to know if the little springy things are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/432">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► We do know that in all connectors dock port lightning anything with any portable device that you carry around pockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/437">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► and stuff lint is an issue if there's a hole in a vise and you're carrying around your pocket or in your purse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/443">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► Lint will get in there and I know many people who have had to either had to go to the Apple Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/449">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► or sort of done surgery on their own with like an artistic and dental tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/453">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► or something to remove big wads of lint from because like you mentioned if you pack in enough lint in your thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/457">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► and try to put the light in character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/463">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► and it won't go all the way in it will basically be prevented from from seating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/464">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► and you know there's too little dents in the side of lightning connection of these other these other two little springy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/467">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► and then you know it's probably seeded that's why you get that little click if you had enough crap inside that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/474">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► That's there's not much I think that connector can do about that except maybe not having it open on being more like Mag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/480">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► safe or that has its own set of problems but anyway I'm glad U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/487">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► Is getting reversible I think the connector looks OK would've preferred if it looked to work like lightning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/490">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► but there is an open question about durability for both of them because neither one has existed long assed know long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/495">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► enough for us to know and I'm just proud of them for finally making possibly maybe just maybe a micro U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/500">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► Connector that isn't totally infuriating to insert a remove. Let's not go too far. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/508">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► Join the eight bazillion other kinds of U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► Connectors that are out there in this thread on our stepping on the common thread about this connector. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/517">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► Got a million people posted the X K C comic about you know competing standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/522">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► and how the you know to many standards I know make one standard that everyone can use now you just created one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/527">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► That's the history of Us speak like that just get creating a connector as a connector there are so many of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/533">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► and so many different shapes and sizes plus the weird proprietary ones that occasionally people come out with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/539">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► or only appear on one or two devices. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/543">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► Hopefully this new reversible one will sweep away all the old ones at the very least I hope it replaces everything on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/547">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► I don't really care so much about like cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► and stuff like that because I think there is going to do their own thing but anyway I welcome my new U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/559">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► Connector overlords. That's the Simpsons and it is good job. Ho raha. We are sponsored tonight first by return sponsor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/566">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► It's automatic automatic. Is your smart driving assistant on your smartphone go to automatic dot com slash A.T.P.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/577">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► So automatic is a little thing you plug into your D.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/585">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► Man is it OK Which one's the wrapper which one support every time going to ask a question on board the lady. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/589">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► Oh you plug it into your O.B.D. Two port which is available on pretty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/595">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► Which almost every car made since I think ninety six was when they started generating this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/600">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► You can look at their site to see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► So check that took us out to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/606">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► but chances are very very good the your car supported automatic is a little thing you plug into the sport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/609">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► and it uses Bluetooth it talks to a smartphone app it monitors how you drive so that way you can monitor your fuel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/614">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► You can read check engine type error code so like rather than just having one check engine light on the dashboard it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/622">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► tell you like your oxygen sensor is broken you should probably get that looked at you know it tell you more specifics. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/628">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► It could also if you're in a crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/633">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► and the port detects that which most of them do it can signal for help if you're in a major crash. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/635">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► There's like a little thing on the app you can tell not to one of the happens if you want to within like thirty seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/641">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► on like that but chances are you probably want to if you're in a serious crash and the best part about this though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/645">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► and you should look at the app it's pretty cool. The best part of it automatic it intelligently monitors how you drive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/651">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► And so it tells you how to optimize your fuel economy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/657">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► and other factors you want to optimize for so it gives you all the data you need to track your fuel cost even checks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/661">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► like cost around you and your fuel efficiency every week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► and it can give you tips on small changes you can make to save a lot of money in the long run it can even make several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/670">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► audio cues when you drive inefficiently if you like you know Sony Excel or too often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/675">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► or slam on the brakes too hard it'll kind of remind you subtly to help guide you towards better habits to reach the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/680">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► goals that you set. I actually found like so my car. Sorry if this is ridiculous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/686">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► My car has one of those lane change warnings things where little cameras look at the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/692">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► and detect where the lines are if you when you go on with a certain speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► and if you start drifting towards the lines on either side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/700">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► and you're not signaling the steering wheel vibrate slightly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/703">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► And when I first got the car I was heading that all the time and I realized it was most because of my own bad habits. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/707">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► Like I would start drifting a little bit to the left on the highway before I would from the turn signal on to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/713">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► lanes. And having that subtle feedback actually fix me like within a few weeks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/719">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► Having this car I proved my habits I improve my technique just subtly with that slight reminder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/724">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► and so automatic can do that for you with these audio cues if you you know to reach the goals you have for fuel economy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/731">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► or whatever else they can do that. Pretty cool stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/737">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► You can save hundreds hundreds of dollars on gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/740">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► and really get you help in a serious crash diagnose engine lights all this fun stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► There's even a parking locator that ties in with the app so we can read it can tell you where you park your car. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/746">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► They have apps for i Phone and Android and you can order one for just a hundred bucks. There's no subscription fees. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/752">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► It's one hundred bucks up front one time and that's it you own it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/760">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► The service comes with that price there is no monthly subscription for all this cool stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/763">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► Free shipping ships in two business days and they have a forty five day return policy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/767">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► So it's kind of you know no pressure just try to see if you like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/771">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► Now this thing is for you guys because you're special and we are special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/774">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► and you know everyone who listen to the podcast is by definition special. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/778">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► You don't have you don't have to pay a hundred bucks for this even though it's a great value we have a special price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/782">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► twenty percent off. So just eighty bucks. The automatic dot com slash A.T.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/786">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► The spa the normal way not the Wordpress way automatic dot com slash A.T.P. Date a special deal you think it is a box. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/791">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► Thanks a lot automatic response on our show. Pretty cool product. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► You know someone serious when they give you a twenty percent discount that's big. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/801">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► Ten percent is you know hey that's pretty quiet appreciate that but one percent that's some serious stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/806">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► Yeah you wonder the next one just pasted in there but I have no particular tied to it more than anyone else does. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/814">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► Well I don't know which parts in particular you want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/822">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► but this is from Gavin regarding arm Max And again there's like three hundred words here I don't know which particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/825">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► words you felt were important. You're failing as a summary. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/833">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► You know I think this is the one Austin where you can select a bunch of text and ask it to summarize it for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/840">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► Back in the day that was that was created that did the news article only. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/845">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► Yeah all right anyway this this is from Gavin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► and he asked a question about our Max's ideas what about instead of an R Mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/852">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► What about a traditional mac form factor device but with an ARM C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/859">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► Running I a less and not owe us ten I think that's essentially what he's asking about here. What would that accomplish. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/865">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► That like one of those silly logic tech keyboard covers doesn't other than the fact that it would be less silly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/872">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► Well I think the idea is that like I was the neuro US IOW US has less annoying stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/878">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► and it is easier for people to use. Why should a laptop to be stuck with the more complicated O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/883">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► Us why can't we make a laptop form factor but have run i OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/889">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► and I think the obvious answer to that is that you know what to do to touch screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/892">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► or not because that's the question first question oh that's right I was running I was I was doesn't work with a mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/899">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► pointer It's a touching thing so I might get me touching the screen of my laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/904">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► No you use the same malice and keyboard combinations that the eye was simulator uses because those are super fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/910">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► and there's still no shortcut to adjust in any text size does not feel like the exact one about a laptop a wimp a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/919">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► version of I O. As you know so the saying is going to Windows What is one point does something internal fuel P.H.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/926">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► Pointer whatever a thing is going to have a competitive Chromebook basically So the idea is instead of you know having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/936">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► having I was go down market for the like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/942">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► and the other the other part of the you know as one of you had something that was like an Intel computer in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/945">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► which goes the truck but each person has their own like I was device that either docks with or connects with bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/951">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► and you don't. Never a place to begin till computer few years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/959">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► But to replace the IOA things more frequently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► when I read this part I thought it seems like well I don't know their place in cycles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/965">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► but it seems like the replacement cycle for private in particular is not particularly frequent like they are hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/969">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► around a way longer I know they hang around longer than Macs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/976">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► but they certainly hang around for a long time because they're not tied to a contract There's nothing artificial making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/979">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► your crit so I know so so many people who still have i Pad ones being used in the house. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/983">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► Granted kids but like you cannot kill these things like if you don't physically break it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/988">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► and it still runs the same five apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/993">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► and it was running before I guess at a certain point maybe like if you can't view youtube on it anymore of the browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/994">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► become so all that you can use most Web sites that will kill it but well you haven't answered this question. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► Kind of trying to show underscore David Smith just updated his version stats page to include the average device age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► which for an i Pad is eight hundred eighty three days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► And by comparison an i Phone is eight hundred four days so a difference of what is an eighty days some like thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► and I was surprised that they were so similar you would think the upgrade cycle on phones would make them last longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► The thing the problem with the underscore of underscores that is I don't know if he has a broad enough cross-section of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► the user base I think a lot of the people who used apps or know about them might be in a nerd circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► and could be skewing things a bit but well this is all from audiobooks alone I thought. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► Which is a little bit more mainstream. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► and then you know now that I think about it like in the same way that i Pads get handed down I do know a lot of cousins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► for example who have old versions of their parents' phones so I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► Print Also not everyone is on a two year cycle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► You know that that from what I gather is maybe not a uniquely American thing but a particularly American thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► Yeah so I'm not sure about Gavin's theory here I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► I've got a lot of issues in terms of the input for the you know Iowa's power to Chromebook type thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► I like the idea of trying to get rid of the legacy concerns of the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► but we don't have we're not anywhere close to having a replacement for all the functionality that a mac provides an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► interest make Iran go ice and solve all these problems. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► Yeah I don't think any sort of dock like thing would make much sense. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► I understand he's driving out with a Chromebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► and I don't know the Chromebook to me on paper I don't understand why it's appealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► but I know Ben Thompson Street tech or e because it used to be strategic or e now it's trajectory. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► I know he swears by his and I've heard from others so I can remember who that they love they are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► But having never used one I don't get it but then again I said the same thing about my pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► and I love my pad so I don't know if on paper you don't get it on paper is exactly where I get it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► Like Conceptually it conceptually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► and in theory all the things that they're doing I think are great is just in practice the actual devices. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► I have not found appealing although maybe I just need use of available ideas like throw it in a river who cares. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► All your stuff somewhere else you just sign and everything sinks nothing is local. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► Everything local is just the cash everything's in the cloud all your applications or web applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► or similar like that concept you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► Don't worry about backups don't worry about a local device management don't worry about anything it's just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► know it's not a dumb terminal it's a smart terminal you know like you have you have local disk local cache memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► All that good stuff that you want what you don't have is local state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► but you where you've eliminated all the stupid concerns that make us have difficult tech support calls with relatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► about how to deal with computing and just you know take away all those concerns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► but in practice what are the applications. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► How do you use it how is the experience how was the hardware What is the pricing and performance like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► and those things aren't quite worked out so well should all be on clay. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► It will be perfect but school is a better job than I thought. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► but like if anyone's going to get there first it's going to be Google so I keep my eye on the chrome book space to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► how it's going but so far it's not has not impressed me. Yeah right. So we also have some follow up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► This was sent specifically to us right from Jared Sinclair. Yes Thank you. Don't you read your e-mail. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► Yeah just what I wanted to make sure that makes one of us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► So he says in an e-mail to the three of us in my post I was very careful not to assign blame to anyone else for unread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► Not even to Apple the main purpose of my article was not to assign blame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► but simply to make my failure a matter of public record. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► Here's why in response to Brent Simmons recent post about who are the Indian I was developers numerous people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► Twitter responded mentioning my name with a high profile reviews of unread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► and several app store features I could see why an outside observer might assume that unread was earning me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1252">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► I don't want someone to take my silence as a test approval of that notion more importantly I don't want someone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► consider scare quotes going indie to make that career change without hearing about how easy it is to fall to fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► The scale of the App Store with over one hundred million credit cards can make it seem like any given issue is big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► enough for solo developer to earn a small but sustainable living. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► The idea there is that great design and great reviews will be enough to carry you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► Reality often contradicts contradicts that wishful thinking. As I learned the hard way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► Maybe someone out there can learn from my mistakes and not repeat them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► So I thought that was pretty interesting and well phrased and similar in kind of relatedly sometime in the last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► or so Jared actually took a full time position with someone I say as I stall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► but it doesn't really matter what someone he talked about it actually on good punk that's called release notes that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► should listen to it. If you're a developer especially if you listen to the show that will be relevant to you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1315">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► It's a very good show and they had him on last week in this way to talk more about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► And yeah it's going to mean we I mean we can talk about this for episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► and episodes we probably shouldn't we probably will. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► And Ed really quickly a realtime follow up its blog was in that he is joining. Cool. Yes So I mean I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► There's so many angles to to this whole thing first of all I don't think it's worth anybody trying to figure out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► Indy should mean the definition of the word indie doesn't really matter for the purposes of this argument I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► that's really a discussion that needs to happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► I don't think we need to care about how many people are there making their living soley on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► and you know again like you know what does that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► and I think you can is look around to see you know is this that it's hard. There's a lot of people out there doing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► I was active element with the hopes of making money from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► and very few of them make a meaningful amount of money from it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► That to some degree has always been the case of our friend owners were David Smith did an episode develop in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► but you should also be listening to during the very first week as we've been discussing a few weeks back where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► basically said it's always been hard and he's right I mean I've I've been in the answer since day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► and I was I was lucky that Instapaper on well I was actually like day two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► or three technically because there was a huge backlog of submissions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► and even though I submitted by the deadline that where they said you'd be there on day one I wasn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► No and I'm not bitter about that. I've been there since roughly day two or three. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► And yet the fact is it's always been hard. I was lucky that my app was very popular from the start. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► But even that was not that easy to stay to sustain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► and I've had you know other efforts since then that were not that successful and I saw the side of it too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1432">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► At some point I want to do a big blog post about marketing and what that actually means. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► and I would probably would probably include me talking about brands because it's actually relevant you have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► Like when I when I meet overcast when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► when I decided to start making the very first thing I did after deciding OK I'm going to take this little prototype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► and I haven't make it into an actual app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► The very first thing I did was definitely their pockets out so I could find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► and make a folder of my phones I could keep tabs on them and see what they had and see what they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► and see what they were going to see what they were good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► and I took screenshots of all of them I did like a little tour of each app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► and took a screenshot to say you know here's here's how this applicant may fold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► or saying you know this is down Cass's unstick as there's a party and like all the all the apps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► Here's how they look here they're setting screen here the playback screen here's their list screen here's the options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► you know that they have and whatever I did all this so that I could have like this portfolio of info [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1493">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► and then I made a list saying here's what I plan to do with my app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► How will it be better than or worse than these apps and what you know in what regards Will I be better than this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► and then you know for each app I had an entry in a big text file saying here's the pros over Casper to the seven here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► the cons of ever got up and I did all this not because I'm good at doing research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► or homework because that's not even close to being true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► I did all this because I want to make sure that I had a chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► and not a chance of being you know being like a minor success for a week or two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► I wanted this app to be to be successful enough that I could develop it for years because that's what I want to do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► want to keep working on this I don't like. Now it's out. I've actually there is an update which I get to I guess later. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► I've I've already fixed many of the known bugs if I if I want to get to bed in this app move I could probably have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► about another two months but I don't want to do that I want to be working on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► So far I will be able to you know it's selling well enough that so far I can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► but I did all this research up front and all this planning to to really know like what. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► What am I really going to be adding to this market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► and you know Jared points out there's this idea that you know he says idea that great designing your views will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► And that's not and he points out rightly that's that's wishful thinking that's you know that doesn't fit reality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► Because the fact is you can have the best launch in the world and be all over Daring Fireball mac stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► and I mourn all the great sites that review this stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► But what you have to look at is an absolute buyer who is just browsing the app store who has searched for the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► app that you have. They typed in pod cast into the App Store. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► They get a list of the pod cast apps and they're going to look at the first few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► and make a decision you have to ask yourself before you even start any work at all you have to ask yourself will that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1616">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► will people meaningfully in meaningful numbers will people buy my app in that situation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► They're not going to go to Max Tories. They're not going to Daring Fireball. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► They're going to go to the app store and look down the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► and they're going to they're going to make a few comparisons probably first you look at price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► and they're in a look at the very first look to see if there's a free one that fits their needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► and if they if there is great they're going to stop there and that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► and they judge you based on the icon the title The screen shots. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► If you're lucky and no one ever ever ever reads the description text I read I read some of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► You're the only person who reads. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► Yeah I read it too but you know I also read emails so it was like three words visible as different. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► OK two or three words a period you know I knew line one word newline tab for more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► and no one ever Apple Apple there is designing for what people actually do like it used to be more text visible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► And over time they've shrunk it big. Presumably because nobody reads it and they can use that space for other things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► So you know people have to you have to plan from the start. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► This is this is marketing this is part of marketing is figuring out where you fit in the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► and making sure you're going to fit somewhere that there actually is a market for its marketing from the very beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► it's thinking about the stuff from the very beginning. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► You have to be able to think you know you have to will make a good case for your app based on no reviews having been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► read no research having been done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► Usually not even people trying trials are different after usually stick with whatever they use first. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► So in that list when they do they have to be asked or circular browsing a list is you're apt to be compelling enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► and the fact is because there are so many apps in the store it's hard to be compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► and especially the model of paid up front. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► It's the reason it's so hard is because of how people browse the reason the race to the bottom happened is because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► that it's because most people are buying apps not from their desktop reading reviews and clicking the link to go to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► I do not have the apps and for most people are buying outright from the phone in the App Store app period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► and probably have to do a search field we don't know for sure yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► but I have it once we have better analysts will find it out pretty quickly probably through through browsing topless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► first and searching for terms a distant second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► And you know most people are going to be on the top list so you know your hope is searching for terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► when they browse the list and they see that one of the apps is free or that like three or four of them are free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► and there's your apps and there are four bucks you don't stand a chance. You just don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► If people if people hear about your app in some other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► and they you know if a friend told them that they read a review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► and Europe's four bucks that's fine you have a decent chance there but the average person browsing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► and this I know there are specialty app types that for which this is not true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► That's fine but for general audience apps general purpose apps that are not being used. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1795">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► Some kind of specialty business role or anything like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► General audience that this is how people browse they look for what they want. They find one hopefully that's free. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► They download it and they stop looking. That's it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► And so paid up front apps as they don't really stand a chance in this model. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► This is why overcast is not paid up front in tape or is paid up front the whole time. I saw the challenges. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► Then it's not working very well and it's hard for developers to accept this because paid up front is easy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► It's really easy to just make an apple or everything's always enabled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► and you don't have to worry about trying to manage purchases or anything like that you just make a great app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► and you put a price tag on it and you're done and you don't have to deal with refunds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► or anything like that because Apple does that for you and you don't have to deal with limiting things and trials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► and demos and working with a number limitations and rules for that and all that stuff you just put it up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► and you're done. It's a great story. It worked for a long time. It stopped working. It doesn't work now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1853">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► Now you have a lot more work into it. You know now you have to actually figure out well what can I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► How can I wage a free trial type thing into the system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► What can I get paid for in this app if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► and then you have to implement that you have to say All right well you have to like like it overcast I mean these like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► little demo modes where you can demo the effects for five minutes and you know before you buy them that's all dish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► or no work I had to have an interface for buying things that have a screen explaining that what you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► when you buy things you have to have all these different states just in the app you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► when I was eight years to deal with delayed purchases all this stuff this is just the reality of the market now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► have to think this way you have to do more work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► You probably if you want a general audience app you probably have to do free with that purchase to make any money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► and that's just the reality of it you know what Jared was doing with on Red was appealing to us appealing to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► like you and me. But that's not the market. That's a very small part of the market. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► And he got that part of the market but it just wasn't enough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1916">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► Do you think you would have had maybe the bravery is the best way to phrase it to release overcast had you not already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► proven your success in the App Store with Instapaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► and I'm not saying like the other people do you think internally you would have had the bravery again for like a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► word to jump into the App Store in today's App Store had you not already lived through two thousand a tap store I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► probably would have been stupid enough to do it and I mean I and I don't want discourage people from doing it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► Just have reasonable expectations. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► You know and and the fact is like in two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► and eight you could put anything up there I mean God forbid if you actually see screenshots of his behavior one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► oh it's a disaster and I actually didn't have I didn't have a paid app on day one my first app was free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► and I made super pro about two months in that was the paid app so about two months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► and I started getting paid revenue and even even that version a look at the screenshots it's just a disaster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► It's it's awful looking and I charge ten dollars for it and it sold well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► It's crazy and the fact is Stanford is much lower back then there was a lot less in the store these days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► Every category already has ten apps and it at least specially got some some categories have thousands. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► You are competing against a massive massive market now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► It's not the same game anymore and you have to adapt to the new reality of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► and you can't really depend you know Jared's right you know it's not it's not really ascribe blame to Apple on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► because you know I wrote this post a couple weeks ago called apparat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► and this post was a failure of mine as a writer I had about three different ideas I wanted to express. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► They should have been three different posts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► I was lazy one night I made one post I've been sitting on these ideas for months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► and I just couldn't get him out it didn't have the motivation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► and people misinterpret it to mean a lot of different things because I try to conflate these different things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2034">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► Put into one post. Apple is not really at fault at all here for this for this part of the market failure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► They have other things they could do to make the market better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► but this is not Apple's fault this is not because you don't have trials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► or any point that this is an overpaid upgrade you know this is simply the result of the market having a ton of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► in it a ton of developers do this as talked about last week so you know it's there's not much Apple can do to fix this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► There's something they need to fix other problems like like I mentioned getting rid of the top lists that won't fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► this problem it will fix other problems or reduce them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► but this problem is here to stay because the market is just this big kind of the same way it was with like with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► companies in general of the dot com thing right where you know it started out if you were an Internet company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► and you had a Web site you had a reasonable shot but then all the Web sites got better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► and very quickly one of all because the business model where you get as much venture capital as you can you try to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2093">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► as many users as you can by giving away everything you can for free and then figure out how to monetize it later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► We're not really in the figure out how to monetize it later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► but we are in the part where like the goal is to get every single human being with an I.R.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► and have within this application a way to get money from the already there like you know people don't have to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► whether it's like buying magic coins or paying for energy to play your game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► or one of the hell it is like the monetization thing is already in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► and I respect it's better than a dot com where they're just like I will figure out later we didn't get as many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► but that strategy of obs quickly of like growth over everything get as many use just possible that is the number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► I don't care how many people I don't care of our conversion rate is point oh one percent if we get just millions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► and millions of users still serious money and when that happened in the dot com world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► and continues to happen you know argue they were like What the hell was that one nine hundred billion dollars It was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► whatsapp or whatever. Oh yeah the messaging app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► Still a viable strategy like no one is buying whatsapp if they want that pursued the strategy of just just you know get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► as many as possible become super valuable Instagram too for that matter to Graeme's now to be fair it's a really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► good business model to freak out Facebook. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► Well that's possible because none of this entire industry in the entire Take industry just freaked out Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► Well see the others like the old strategy before they were big companies like Facebook to buy you for too much money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► I mean there are always companies survivor too much money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► but like not like it is today where there's a few vacuum everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► but the Obama's will just get a bazillion users our growth curve will look like a hockey stick and will I.P.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► and Everyone who has a stake in the company will get rich off the I.P.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► but on the tubes you know like in other was no one would buy us we never will figure out how to make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► but everyone invest in the company made out like a bandit on the I.P.O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► So with our cares and it eventually goes down and somebody buys the scraps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► or someone you know the new strategy is get as many users possible you know that freak out Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► or become so big like this the next big thing get someone to buy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► and that's how you get your big payday down from the idea over from the acquisition and then you know whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► After that nobody cares right. Wells on the App Store. Same strategy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► Get it get big really really fast but just like in business today even though that is still a viable strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► The other strategies evolve along with it not every company that has you know not every sort of online focused company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► decides that its strategy is going to be getting many people as possible so it's possible I'm not sure where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► breakdown is like are there more sort of you know technology based startups are trying to get as many users as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► c'est possible than they are trying to like sell a product. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► when you get into physical goods it gets different like Nest the strategy of the nest company was not to get users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► puzzles as ball I don't know how many thermostats and smoke detectors they sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► but it was not like you know whatsapp type numbers but they made a quality product. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2275">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► A charge people for it and it was enough to get them acquired by somebody who wanted the talents they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► and I you know that were government but they didn't pursue that strategy and it was still successful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► So you mentioned for applications where all the specialty Apple doesn't apply to you if you want to go to the mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► I think there is a spectrum where I think an application like a PO where it's it's not like a super specialty app like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► something for you know someone and very specific field to use tons of musicians musicians is a big market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► Not everyone is a musician Certainly not everyone is looking for an application to help them with their music creation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► process but it's much broader than you know yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► but musicians are willing to pay for things that help them make music better like especially if your application in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► these types of cases replaces lots of other much more expensive equipment suddenly your ten dollar app seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► bargain compared to the two hundred dollars for the equipment it's replacing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► That is a very viable thing to do or even like a drying application not everyone needs an application like a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► But the people who do are actually willing to pay money for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► and is that mass market was not as mass market is as an instant messaging app or even a podcast I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► but it's much more mass market than some very narrowly defined out they could maybe command hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► or whatever so we're really going to feel like the breakdown. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► How many you're doing that crazy get as many people as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► and then fleece the whales for some percentage of revenue. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► To us it seems like that's big like it seems like Oh that's the entire story because all we see the downy the topless. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► It pisses us off because we think it's not like a sort of a a constructive an honorable way to make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► and so to us it seems like that's bigger than it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► but I wonder how it compares to that middle ground of people selling applications like you know that charge money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► upfront not the mass market but also not to like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2394">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► Just a couple hundred people and that works out for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► and I I think our impression of the market is correct that it's mostly those people you know doing tons of dust because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► They are they do dominate the topless but there's to be three applications with an apparatus and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► but I hope that over time just like in the dotcom things I hope over time that that crazy frenzy getting many people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► possible thing will sort of not run its course but simmer down a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► and we will get a healthier kind of middle part of the market from people making applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► and selling them to people who actually want to pay money for software because in the end that's what you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► a business of people paying money for software right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► and we all continue to think that that is the thing that people are going to do because software provides value to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► true so you know even even though the free applications like people are paying for software that is paying for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► virtual currency within software like they're paying they're not getting anything for like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► and I getting physical goods they're putting money in where the getting out is an experience. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► So it's like buying a ticket to a movie buying a level for a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► or paying money to be able to tap the screen sooner than you could previously tap the screen like they're paying money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► for essentially nothing. And even the big scary gross top end of the market shows that people are willing to do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► and not outside the realm of possibility to get people to pay money for things that give them value in ways other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► entertainment is just going to be a smaller market. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► I don't know if the equilibrium is but I think we're not what I'm saying is I think we're not there yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► I think we are now tilted still way over into the candy crush is of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► and there still needs to be a little bit more rocking back towards the middle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► We're also sponsored this week by our friends at hover hover is the best way to buy a managed to main aims. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► You know I had a few people on Twitter bother me about unless you weeks about how I pronounce hover How are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2513">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► Right as I don't know if there is a new sprouts like it was fun to say however you know you're not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► However maybe if you emphasize the new sound over just keeps just keep saying over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► and sign you pronounce something's weird like query instead of query but hover you get right. Yeah I don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► I'm wondering what please listeners who criticize my pronunciation of cover please record an audio file of yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► and send it to me because I honestly don't know how I'm supposed to be saying it differently than this cover is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2545">TS</a>]
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00:42:41 ◼ ► It's nice it's clean it's quick to do things I've used many other registrars control panels before and hovers is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► And yeah I can simply say it's the best one I've used it's because I use a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► and they're almost always universally awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► and however that's good that's I mean that's that alone is a reason you should you should go at them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► But is more reason to do so first of all they have amazing customer support you can call them on the phone if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► to any human being picks up the phone I can help you. There's no hold no weight no transfer phone support. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► You can also of course email and you know do my months of you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► but that option is always there for you can just call them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► They'll have great prices in fact so there's all these new domain names like all these crazy new things like da [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► plumbing and all this crazy stuff. Most of these new domain names are on sale. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► Big sale in in the month of August so if you look at this in time you should be able to catch the sale if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► eighty's new demands. Check out however they're on sale for often up to fifty percent off their deeply discounted. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► and some of them check it out if you want like you know you can get Dot ninja dot Gurudas all sorts of horrible ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► and a few good ones that you can get so I check that out too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► However includes things for free that other people make you pay for for example you get who is privacy on every domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► for free you can. There's all sorts of stuff you can do with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► They have email hosting they have Google Apps for your domain hosting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► They also have this really cool service we had talked a little bit about last time called Valley transfers where if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► want to transfer a domain name into cover from another registrar you can do the normal way if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► but there's a very good chance when you transfer to me names that you're going to something up. Usually it's the N.S.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► If you want to optional you hover will notice an all charge log in to your old record store you've given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► credentials they will log in to your old registrar and do the transfer for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► and you can often do this with a very large number of domain names I don't think you have too many because they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► still do it. It's pretty impressive. So that's and I don't know of any of the Metro have that service. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► So give her a try. We have a new coupon code this week one for this week is vinyl sounds better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2685">TS</a>]
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00:45:06 ◼ ► You will get ten percent off your first purchase however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► and really again I can't recommend them enough there are two main register of DOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► and basically that's all you can tell you guys you guys you know this is about you can get so many demands these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► you can get them for here where you can get them for business you get them for your own personal site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► or e-mail address you know if your blog is like something that wordpress dot com That doesn't look very good like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► know just get your own domain manage it manage your identity. There's tons of reasons to buy domain names these days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► If you're drunk and have a funny idea for a domain name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► or an app just by the name Great go to have tons of reasons to buy domain names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► and if you're going to buy ever you should buy or cover so thanks a lot to cover for sponsoring our show once again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► Don't forget to use coupon code. Vinyl sounds better for ten percent off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► I love that they basically forced you to admit that vinyl doesn't sound better.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► Also I'd like to add before anyone jumps on me that earlier today I notice that B.M.W. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2754">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► So a top level domain now and I did not mention or anything hover in that tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► and they replied to my tweet with the following. It says that Casey lift up B.M.W. Is being operated as a closed T.L.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► So not available to the public. No white dot B.M.W. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► For you and then they had a link to the actual registrar page which I thought was hysterical. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► So even when they're kind of sort of trolling there super nice people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► and their fans of ours too so you know they're good people who know how they're going to be if you like the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► Let's move on to Tivo. Apparently there's been an update. They're still business. Who knew. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► I've been waiting for this update for a while since I read about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► but they do like the sort of staged roll out I think I don't know how they determine the stages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► but anyway I finally got it on my table. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► But then with Evo I've been complaining for many years that a user interface is not as responsive that should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► especially after they went to high definition at first they didn't have their menu ing individuals in high definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2814">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► Then they added a high definition menu NG interface written in Flash and it was super duper slow and terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► and that was the case until my current Tivo which the Tivo Romeo which has a much more responsive use interface much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► more responsive than the previous ones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► There's still some standard def and use in there which is shameful in this late stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► but anyway least they made the main integrated use faster well so this update supposedly was going to make the older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► Tivo does have the same interface as the most recent models look the same and it was supposedly much much faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► and I wish I could find was the show it actually spent a while looking for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► Couple days ago maybe someone in the chat room will know they stopped using Flash for their interface. So good on them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► Whether that was why it was slow or just a side effect of something else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► Bottom line is the flash interface on the old. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► He those terribly slow this new interface uses something to replace flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► and I can't believe me remember what the hell the name of the technology is not something you've heard of like a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► name it's not swift always that's popping into my head because of language things maybe it started with an S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► but even the chat room knows what they're using instead of Flash because there was this big presentation from the Tivo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► people that said here is how we evaluated this new technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► and here's how we sort of poured in our existing infrastructure over to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► and figured out what the issues were in terms of you know C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► Performance and memory usage and also the stuff was interesting presentation that I of course read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► and just completely lost track of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► and it's no where in any of my browser history there were no a search for a bottom line this update came I got it on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► Tivo for mayor that I moved up stairs when I got the duty of a room you're downstairs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► It does look like the new interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► and it is way way faster it is not assessed it is as it is on the Romeos I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► but it is much faster so if you have an old Tivo for mayor it is no longer embarrassingly disgustingly slow if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► the latest version of the software which is free updates every day so that's kind of good news like if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► happen to buy one and didn't know how slow it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► or if you were holding off buying a used one because they're all slowing gross they've actually made their harbor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► faster with software and I give a big comes up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► Really quickly before we move on to topics because we haven't gone on long enough follow up this is still fun. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► How's the review John you can ask this every week if I touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► or think this is me encouraging you to accomplish the review as quickly as possible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► Yeah so this weekend my wife was nice enough to take the kids out to do various activities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► and I got a lot of stuff done which only serves to remind me how much more I have to do is like I feel all competition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► I like a road an entire section a half my grade only like nine more to go just do that nine more times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► when you look at the calendar and you think about the possibility of that when you know that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► OK On that happy note Mark or do you want to quickly talk. About the overcast update that is pending is that correct. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/2996">TS</a>]
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00:50:32 ◼ ► So you're always up to speed with new stuff so for example if I can make a new Creative Suite version their videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3032">TS</a>]
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00:50:41 ◼ ► All these video courses on Lynda are produced at the highest quality this is now at the home a video on You Tube these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► chords are broken into bite sized pieces you can learn at your own pace and learn from start to finish. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► Or just find a quick answer by skimming through and you know go in the middle somewhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► They have tools on these including searchable transcript play lists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► and they will even have a thing if you use Linked In. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► but if you still use Linked In They have little certificates that somehow a certificate of course completion so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► when you watch something on if you watch like a whole course in Linda you can have that publish into your Linked In [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► profile to advertise to other unfortunate souls who are using Linked In that you completed a course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► and this could help your job prospects because if you're in a kind environment people look at Linked In they probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► care about stuff like what you know your qualifications all this stuff so that's another fun thing they've added now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► Lynda dot com courses cover beginner to advanced all experience levels. They also have these cool mobile apps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► I Phone i Pad and Android are all supported. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► Now you get one low monthly price of twenty five dollars gets you unlimited access to the entire dot com I've read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► over one hundred thousand videos and are always adding more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► Twenty five bucks a month gets you unlimited access to that if you upgrade to one of the one of their. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3114">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► Him plans you can also download the videos for offline storage on your i Phone i Pad or Android device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► Premium for members can also download project files and practice along with instructor if you want to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► So fun stuff there. Even if you can do the twenty five dollars a month basic plan you get tons of value out of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► They give me a trial of and I kept going with it it's fantastic. They have all sorts of topics in the courses H.T.M.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► Iowa seven even things like like i Pad tips and tricks if you want to you know some like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► or if you know some in your life you need something like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► Very useful how to create web apps how to use like Perl six thing a John sort of thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► And that's one of the things that has a does not have a short answer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► All right so you had all sorts of great things from technical stuff to absolute logic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► and Final Cut Pro You know the Creative Suite apps down to things like software web design a web page making all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3172">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► They have they even have a course here that's called Microsoft intelligence business stack fundamentals. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► I'm guessing somebody out there knows what that means but it's definitely not me but they have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► and it's like a watch that I can learn if I want to have more important things like managing your mobile photos which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► as we know is not a simple topic. They have videos to help you out with that. So go to Lynda dot com slash A.T.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► and You will get a free seven day trial was a great offer and if you like it then you have to learn again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► Just twenty five bucks a month for unlimited access to all the videos in their entire library going to Lynda dot com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► slash A.T.P. To try to free for seven days. Once again L Y N D A dot com slash A.T.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► That's a tell us about this overcast update. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► I've been preparing the the one to update for a few weeks now it's been a little while and it's mostly bug fixes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► and minor improvements and then a few days ago I got a notice in the apps or rejection center. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3231">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► What if we call the resolution center. Yes really post rejection messages now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► So I got a notice in the rejection Center saying upon reevaluation I hadn't even submit an update at this point they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► are just out of the blue said upon revaluation we've decided that you're in violation of this rule seventeen point two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► which means which is the rule that basically says you can't require an account based logons of personal information for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► things that basically shouldn't require a logon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► So I responded first of all saying well there really aren't any features in my abs that don't need the account the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► entire app is account based and oh and they said you need to submit a bill that fixes this within two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► or a police officer or Basically they said it nicer but that's that's that's the gist of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► I first responded you know with my thing saying well trying to trying to explain my way out of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► The reason why I didn't explain all this was the reason why I didn't have a cow an account free option at the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► and I explain this a little bit before I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► But the main reason why is that you think the situation where suppose somebody has a an anonymous account kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► on the back and so these anonymous accounts then they at some point they launch their i Pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► or whatever they launch a device and I don't see happen different vice and they see a logon screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► and they assume mistakenly that they've created an account. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► So they type in a username password they ignore the text in the box it says this account doesn't exist you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► and they just click yes because most people do then they are presented with this newly created account that is blank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► and then the e-mail me saying I can't believe you deleted all my stuff it's all gone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► Oh my God you suck one star refund. Everything's horrible you through my life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► I saw this happen so many hundreds to paper. This is how people actually behave. Trust me it's like this will happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► And because people you know. Don't read text on screens and they don't remember. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► Understandably because of so many things out there they don't remember what they made account for what they haven't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► They often will do it two different email addresses not not much I can do about that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► So I want to avoid this support issue of what do you do with you know with it with this kind of situation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► It's not good if those people write in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► and I can I can explain to them Well you know you have this other account here if I can find it if I if I can figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► out who it is which I probably can't with anonymous stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► but you know you could try with support of the problem is most people won't even e-mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► and support those you'd assume that I'm a terrible person and an incompetent programmer I lost everything of theirs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► and they will just be angry and they were buying stuff again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► They'll tell their friends how much it sucks or the poster of you are they going to refund from Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► All of which sucks for me so I really did not want to go down that route. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► So that's why I said you know let me just required at the beginning it was just the e-mail account you know no use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► names that I even answer that part in the fact because I'm like no usernames necessary for this because you know I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3415">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► it with a taper first where it was at first you could enter anything for either name email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► or not just any string of characters would work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► and I had the problem again of people would lock into device type in an email address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► when they'd use the username before vice versa and create a new account by mistake and think everything was gone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► So all that stuff sucks I want to avoid it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► So that's why I did it the way that was here and I mentioned earlier you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► when I launched I believe are on the long show here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► when we talk with I believe I said something like half of all people who downloaded it were actually creating accounts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► If I ever want to raise that rate I would have to add an option like this I was considering it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► but I want to avoid support issues. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► So anyway back to modern day Apple tells me a few days ago you have to do this within two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► and I explain my way out of it. Maybe but Apple doesn't respond quickly to those things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► I offered in the thing I said you know what if you want you can call me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► and we can talk about on the phone like two two days later and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3476">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► There are two or three later they tell me we will schedule a call within three days and I have a two week deadline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► and I'm sitting on this bug fix updates that I really need to get out there because there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► or two fix some pretty important bugs and I'm thinking you know what this is too long. I can fight this now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► I might not win if I don't win I'll be down a whole week at least. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► Probably longer so that I have to really rush out a fix. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► Furthermore if I do win this argument there's you know if I'm living on the edge of a rule I tell people this all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► Don't rely on living on the edge of a rule in the after guidelines if I lose it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► or if I win this argument down convince them it's OK for me to not to require accounts now there is nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► guaranteeing them far from something here and here in T.N. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► I will always be exempt from this rule and so I could at some point in the future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► Some really important I think is a really important bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► and have to be held up in review because they're going to get there and get minute rule again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► It's a it's a terrible situation to try to always assume I'll be able to get around this rule. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► So I decided even before I heard back from them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► and I still haven't heard back from them I decided you know what let me just I'll just do it you know I was I was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► the fence about doing this at all to begin with. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► You know it was like I was always totally against it and so I just want to minimize the issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► but like you know let me just do this I'll probably get more users and it'll be all right fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► So I did it and I submitted. I tested it for a few. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► I I did the whole thing of about four days in the Haitian to submission. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► I submitted it today at noon it was approved today at eight P.M. Wow this is remarkable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► I assume that if you have one of these open issues and you're on your app which you know it's marked and i Tunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► and everything I assume that any update you submit gets bum to the front of Hugh because it's to fix that you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► funny you say that because front of the show Daniel was saying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► Earlier today to somebody on Twitter I think about it and Brianna Rue from giant space cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► but yeah that that corroborates his theory as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► And the funny thing was I was I was very upset when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► when I first got this because I was like I was literally about to submit one or two then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► and I was like a day away from spinning I was just in final beta testing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► and I was so mad like now I'm going to be delayed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► All these bugs think it's going to delayed you know because I have to do this and test this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► and everything turns out that was about a week ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► Review times recently have been about a week I think it was kind of a blessing in disguise that you know I had to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► this yes and that it's a better product for it for the most part. There are going to be supportive shoes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► I'm I'm going to be annoyed to deal with them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► People are going to be upset but it is overall I think probably the game will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► and it is nice that you know because that jumping the queue thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► This was released today which was probably going to be roughly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► when one of two would've been released if I submitted it at a normal time anyway so it's been a busy week it's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► little bit of a stressful evening because I I didn't have enough time to test this and compare what you usually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► and I assume that I'd be able to test it during the app review process a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► and you know you could you have just a binary if it's if it's broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► and you should make a habit of doing that all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► but it's nice to have that extra week of testing just in case I had eight hours of extra testing this time so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► But yeah that's that's what's going on. Anyway that's about it. But what else is new. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► Someone in the chat room did find out what technology Tivo is using instead of flash it is called Ha which I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► say is your hacks are hicks friends however it is open to international threats like a cross-platform toolkit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► Flash cross compiler. I think you can write. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► Code in their language their high level language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► and generate code for all sorts of other platforms as an open source thing anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► Bottom line is it's way faster than flash. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► Way faster than Tivo slash implementation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► and there's an article also got in the show notes from Slash here talking about how distinct flash could mean that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► could put the Tivo into various other devices like X.-Box and Fire T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► and I don't see how that wouldn't of Impossibles over their gross license interface are also saying by the way that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► was interface like they would probably kill to have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► Like you I kid dropped upon them they didn't want to make you a user interface in this like sort of you know mature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► when done correctly make extremely perform because like want to Tivo it it's a bunch of text lists like the video part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► of the video carpentering going through menus is just like big long scrolling lists of text with various options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► and you can do to each like to guide him and menus like it's not rocket science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3774">TS</a>]
01:03:00 ◼ ► and you know I probably need a more powerful C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3780">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► To to run you like it in there but anyway I don't think headaches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► or hacks is the end all of interface things I just I'm glad that my Tivo got faster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3788">TS</a>]
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01:05:14 ◼ ► or something because they have a tendency to pronounce things just completely wrong like Keisha instead of cash for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3914">TS</a>]
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01:05:31 ◼ ► or is there not that's a good question. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3931">TS</a>]
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01:05:56 ◼ ► or whatever like if you individual people from actual places in the country with X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3956">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► So I kind of hiding under the newscaster in this anyway. Tougher. What else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3960">TS</a>]
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01:06:15 ◼ ► but like I mean there it's fine to have that because like talking about overcast it's always is it always going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► fought because we've talked about overcast before therefore every time you talk about overcast again it is follow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► you know we to follow up on last week's Apple news that this week's Apple means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3986">TS</a>]
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01:06:35 ◼ ► one or two emails or tweets that thought we were trying to say that Jared's post was blaming Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/3995">TS</a>]
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01:06:46 ◼ ► and the phrase someone to blame where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4006">TS</a>]
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01:06:53 ◼ ► and possibly all Rampal don't talk in complete sentences or maybe just me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4013">TS</a>]
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01:07:09 ◼ ► clarify I'm glad he did because this explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4029">TS</a>]
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01:07:41 ◼ ► but this little introductory thing of saying here's why here's why I wrote this it was you know Brent said this lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4061">TS</a>]
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01:07:52 ◼ ► Actually I'm not a good example of that because here is why I need that in the post it's in there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► But like when you find yourself having to explain to somebody. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► Read what you wrote instilled an understanding and explain it again like more clearly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► You know emphasizing the parts that they're getting wrong that makes for stronger writing so in the same way as I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► having to explain something to somebody makes you understand it better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► Doing is exercising doing it all before you actually publish anything useful like a you know one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► when someone's having trouble writing something whether it's my children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► or someone else's I don't write anything just explain to me what you want to say and a lot of people can do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► Likewise what I want to say is blah blah blah blah blah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4110">TS</a>]
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01:08:42 ◼ ► Tell me that I shouldn't sell my privacy slash soul to get symmetric fire service so what are they asking you to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4122">TS</a>]
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01:09:14 ◼ ► One is not actually from if you know you never saw them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► or I don't I think the title match I remember the title that movie feels I think get it while they're doing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► thought it was that bird talking about this earlier I forget who it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► but I'm looking at so there's a link that I put in the chat that's a public link where it doesn't really say anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► about getting increased speed but behind my private page relate my account information. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4179">TS</a>]
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01:10:06 ◼ ► And I guess they like Snoop your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► and you get seventy four I would have seventy five seventy five instead of seventy five thirty five. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► I'm trying to figure out what exactly this is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► That's the thing is it's unclear to me what exactly they're doing particularly Snoop your stuff right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► But is it is this is what they're going to start sending you a gift card crap promos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:28 ◼ ► and stuff like that I mean I think because I already get spam from horizon in the mail almost every day trying to grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4228">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► me to a higher plan that includes T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► and Stuff because I just have the Internet and phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► and I called them like there's no way to opt out of this is no way to get them to stop bugging me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► I would imagine they're probably already doing creepy things like selling my information to Starbucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► and everything else like I think that's actually exactly what they're doing because it's talking about all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► particular vendors like Target an Exxon Mobile and Amazon and Dunkin Donuts and Starbucks and Panera Bread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4256">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► but so they're saying apparently this is a system where you gather points to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► and the way you can gather points is to like them on Facebook to go to their Web site to refer for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► Well I still remember they every year they track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► and that's a renter by on demand movie I mean so what is this you know you can usually I don't know the specifics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► this deal but you can usually take whatever service they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► and then use it in such a way that you don't have any interaction with them I'm really close to not having any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► interaction with Verizon at all because I don't have any of their boxes I don't use their router I don't have video on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► demand like all the services they want to sell me everything I don't see the only one they still got me on assisted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► D N A S because of use Google the N.S.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► or Something you don't get a good Geo IP routing you know Google says you're supposed to in practice is shown me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► if I use. Google's I.P.O. Opened Gouldian us are open to something like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► I get worse speeds from like downloading you know Apple software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► or I should be pulling it from aka my across the river and I'm not visiting some someplace else so I can't entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► and rising waters rising there with the N.S.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► Give them an inch like you type in the wrong you around you get some big stupid advertising parkade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► and Horizon Diaz's super slow and crappy I don't like it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► but I'm really close to getting it so it seems like if you opt into this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► and you did a similar scenario where you got rid of everything didn't have any boxes didn't use the router didn't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► their D.N.A. As the news or anything like that didn't have video on demand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► I guess like what's left like like Marco sat there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► or he believe me they're already selling every ounce of your information to somebody like they're horrible company like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► everything about horizon of the company is just horrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4363">TS</a>]
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01:12:51 ◼ ► like there's no more giving away of your information that they could be doing they're already doing as hard as they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4371">TS</a>]
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01:13:01 ◼ ► unless they have some way to get you like you'll be using your computer all the sudden you go to a site instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► going to the site you see the stupid survey that comes up they want you to rank the movies you've seen recently some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► crazy thing like that like that seems like the only way they can get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► but I don't know I guess I would want to be the one to experiment with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► and find out because downgrading Firman to getting rid of it is probably a super pain to my rewards plus points are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► easy to get the only hard part will be deciding which rewards you want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4403">TS</a>]
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01:13:34 ◼ ► Like us on Facebook. Order new equipment. Try Verizon's in home agent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► or buy a fire with trademark on demand movie oh my God these are some I cannot decide which of these things to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► with these all sound so appealing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► Also you know you don't have to do any of those like that's kind of like the free light free antivirus software I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► as part of my thing a free on line backup like Joe I just never do those ever look. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4434">TS</a>]
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01:14:04 ◼ ► free antivirus software like they will email me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► and say hey I've noticed you've had the service for seven years that I've never downloaded a free online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► but I don't so I think it's good that you noticed that whatever life there are always going to spam you there really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► isn't used to be cards in the mail you go right into the recycle bin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► But I don't think they can make you do anything unless I start getting interested like the D.N.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► Thing is literally interest like you mistype your own you're look at a bunch of writing crap that is intrusive which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► why I wish to get rid of it but everything else you can just simply not to use. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► I suppose now I mean it seems to me like dirty snooping everything anyway I'm ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► and spammed anyway why not just get seventy five seventy five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► but I need you guys are supposed to convince me not to do this you know it's most going to be do it well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► When they announced these plans a few weeks ago they said they would be rolled out automatically for free. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► That's not true now that see if they're actually requiring this. Then that was B.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► and It wouldn't surprise me if that was B.S. Because there there are giant I.S.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► and They're a horrible company like all giant I.S.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► Is so surprising however that was if if this is indeed what's required to get this that is complete B.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► By the way the movie was a cry in the dark one hundred eighty eight starring Meryl Streep that isn't originally like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► dingo ate my baby or something like this. People know it from Seinfeld but yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► So what I'm hearing is I should be getting taken do this. Now you know you move. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► Yes because that's totally an easy solution to this problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► Where in the post office sells your information to everyone else and you move even in their one direction anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4536">TS</a>]
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01:15:49 ◼ ► Some of the show is about to leave the whales the whale says more about the show is about than perhaps well I'm biased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► but I did like fleas whales that is freedom. They said that many times before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4555">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► Just like it or like something or making up I think it's a funny concept to somehow combine flails and fleas. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► Like I never liked the term whales anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► but it's I don't know where it got started I first heard it didn't like casino. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► Yeah exactly and you know yet if a certain boiler room. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/4575">TS</a>]
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01:29:17 ◼ ► feel I do have one stuff goes through my sort of back catalogue of must play games that you can already play maybe I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► recommend a game and then you have to buy one because you'll need to play something out of it right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► It's extremely well done game I have some complaints about it I think that we're driving double dash was still better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► but you know if you play America you play America it's America. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► and they've gotten much difference in centers of business in the end we was pretty good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► I mean basically the same though the driving has gotten feels very different than it is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5388">TS</a>]
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01:30:00 ◼ ► But in the end you're driving around on carts getting little presents shooting shells at people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► and do all sorts of business and are interesting in what at the bottom. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► How can how much can it possibly change to go around courses in the person who gets there first wins. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► How much result possibly change a lot more I know I'm messing with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► but still I mean it's a pretty similar concept every time is a not so veiled is a is a more broad concept because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5421">TS</a>]
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01:31:15 ◼ ► or complain compared to playing time Princess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5475">TS</a>]
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01:31:27 ◼ ► The experience of playing the suit games feels very different they look entirely different they feel different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5487">TS</a>]
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01:31:46 ◼ ► thought raising it was much more freedom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5506">TS</a>]
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01:31:53 ◼ ► leaning on soldering of time to actually change the gameplay so that if you did a graphic on a white board it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5513">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► Not a linear progression of dungeons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► and it's not done in weapon you can go to anything anytime you are presumably the old version of. So that way you can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5521">TS</a>]
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01:32:12 ◼ ► sure but the result is going to be like but they have said they're going to break some conventions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► Roughly one is that oh I don't know like twenty fifteen twenty sixteen somewhere they could just make it require like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► sixty dollar an on controller to help their financial problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5546">TS</a>]
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01:32:34 ◼ ► Yeah I wonder about like when he couldn't make a pitch to someone who's only aim for three hundred dollars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTPDckM/5554">TS</a>]
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