00:00:00 ◼ ► Let me start by saying that I have started work on the show by title ordering but it is not done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/0">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► and I apologize for that. There was a poll request someone send you the code to do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► I know that I know but I don't know if I have and I've only glanced at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/11">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► but I'm a little opinionated about how I want to done so I'm going to give it the college try. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/14">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► But one of us shipped something or something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/19">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► Me I'm going to go to college try and see if I can do it the way I want to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/23">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► and if I can do it in basically the one time I sit down to do it then I'll take a poll request [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/28">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► and walk away about this alternate strategy except the poll request [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/34">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► and let us use that while you work on your solution and then revert. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/38">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► Then remember that integration and putting your changes throughout is that's probably the better approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/41">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► but that's all right so nothing really happened this week so let's start with follow up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/46">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► Apparently some stuff we said in the past has been wrong clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/53">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► and with the talk now for a half hour to explain why it was wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/56">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► John the first part of but the first item and problem I have in me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/61">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► Actually we got a lot of feedback that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► when we were talking about what would cause someone to switch to android from an i Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/69">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► and we got a piece of feedback that we talked about an episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/76">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► or two ago that said hey you know a lot of these these new versions of I.I.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/80">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► Can kind of slow down your phone and make the response time to everything a lot less quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/87">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► and that's maybe why people switch. And so somebody wrote in I don't have who it was but some you wrote in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/94">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► Many people have noted the perceived slowdown in older phones could likely be purchasing an old phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/99">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► For example buying a four S. Today which is still on store at Apple dot com Actually I think I wrote that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/105">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► The point being that you can still get a four S. Today and I would say it is presumably coming out in September. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/112">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► Member in probably isn't going to run to the forest because I believe it is supported is that right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/120">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► The forest is supported on a that's correct for all the eighty five devices are supported on eight which is injuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/125">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► two there's a lot of them like if they cut off the a fire device that they cut off the original i Pad Mini which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/131">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► Exactly so there's a lot of older devices being sold that are still going to be supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/138">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► and so that's that's something to consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/144">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► and something that would perhaps drive you away from Apple because here you get this perhaps not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/147">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► Amazing experience here what if this was your first i Phone or first smartphone when you buy a forest today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/152">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► and it runs all right with i OS seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► and then in a couple of months you see that I will say it is available you go an updated nods and runs like crap. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/161">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► I mean that's that's noble you know so that's just some to consider. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► We talked about that investors who are talking about why the heck that the i Pad two was around so long they might stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/171">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► selling that writers don't know you're probably right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/177">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► Anyway yeah but we've had that same complaint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► and another one of my hobby horses is not putting enough RAM in things especially when you can upgrade it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/183">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► It's short sighted from a sort of customer satisfaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/189">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► and brand satisfaction level to skimp on RAM Even though it helps your margins because some people will say oh I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/193">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► and if the minimum is not a reasonable amount like if you just setting someone up for is a much much better nowadays of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/201">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► Thought I was spinning disk was just torture to get a mac with the minimum amount of RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/207">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► and then use it for several years and by the end of its lifetime the O. S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/211">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► and All the apps need way more ram of the thing was always swapping especially with like fifty four hundred rpm laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/214">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► when we talked about this the whole having it upgrade it slows down your thing I don't think any of us thought that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/223">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► a phenomenon that happens I mean with it we've all actually own devices that we've either decided not to upgrade to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/230">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► Iowa seven or regretted upgrading to Highway seven and all way back I mean I remember oh my. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/235">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► One of my original i Pod Touches I think I didn't want to upgrade to for something and then eventually I gave in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/240">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► and regretted it. Like this is a thing that happens if you keep if you keep devices long enough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/246">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► I actually I did it to attain this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► but a follow up the I guess the first one is that if you buy a device that will sell you something that they probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/254">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► shouldn't still be selling like you get an i Pad two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/260">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► And when it was so clearly long in the tooth or you end up with a current non Retina i Pad Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/263">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► or you know poor Marco's mom buy an i Phone four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/268">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► when she should have been like that's Apple's fault for selling those things and the customer gets it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/272">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► and they get a bad experience sometimes this is a bad experience for the box right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/278">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► But the the idea that the solution to that is to try another vendor in some sense make sense if you're if you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/283">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► you don't know anything about Apple and its products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/292">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► or you bought an apple think it sucks you try a different one right. But for tech savvy people they are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/293">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► I would imagine that they could have a similar reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/301">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► but for different reason tech savvy people are going to do it for the airline reason we're like it's a vindictive area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/304">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► like well I bought this thing. I was satisfied with it and used it for a while I upgraded it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/309">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► Apple should never even allowed to be upgrades that's Apple fault I will now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/314">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► My solution is for my next phone for my next tablet or whatever I'm going to buy from a different vendor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/318">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► and that can very quickly turn into you know I just I just hate Apple not buying their stuff anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/324">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► when in reality the optimal solution for that person who may be used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/328">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► and enjoyed Apple products for a while is the next time they buy you know buy a higher end Apple products spend more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/332">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► money on the travel would love the spend more money rather than actually to work well again it's Apple's fault for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/339">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► selling these old devices to long examples fault for allowing the upgrades to go on them when they don't perform well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/343">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► Arguably tabel fault of the software doesn't perform well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/348">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► but like if for example I had a relative who had that experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/351">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► and I knew that they were satisfied with Apple devices in general. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/356">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► Wouldn't recommend our will for your next one you should get an Android phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► If I think that they would not get a better experience. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/362">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► Yes they get the satisfaction of saying well now I'm not going to buy Apple stuff anymore but it's like really. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/366">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► You'd be super satisfied with an i Phone five S. For your next phone right so if you say you had a four S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/370">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► If you really love drive on for all that's life except for this last part which again totally Apple's fault for putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/378">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► It's like you know cutting off your nose to spite your face by saying well the next song I get is an Android phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/385">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► because that probably won't be a satisfactory experience especially if someone has a stylus or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/389">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► So that's one angle on this that the whole idea of just I'm angry I'm going to get revenge at Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/394">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► and I'm going to do something that's technically not really in my best interests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/400">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► and by the way this is why again everyone else that's been my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/403">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► and others why I recommend people don't get an Apple device if the only one you can afford is the cheapest one they saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/406">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► because that she puts on a solo it sucks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► Like it's true of you know it was like a thousand dollar IMAX it's like fifteen percent less expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/413">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► and you know if you can't get the expensive one you actually are probably better off with something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/422">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► and then the other point I had in this topic is at a certain point hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/428">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► and software sort of catches up to the baseline of what the what people want to do with the O. S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/435">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► If you think about the early history of US ten where it was just super slow for two years a design was years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/442">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► and years it felt gross it felt like molasses it was really slows compositing on the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/448">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► Even when they got the capacity and the G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/453">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► when the resizing all the event handling just it was just slow it was crappy at a certain point the cheapest mac you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/456">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► could buy could pull them in those fast and scroll things like these days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/463">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► No I don't want to buy the least expensive Numac from Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/468">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► It will scroll a page OK and that sounds stupid but we went through years very concerned roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/472">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► and where everything was just super slow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/477">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► Think Iowa's devices are very close to getting to the point where no matter what piece of crap you buy from Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/480">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► you'll be able to score through a web page OK at a little web page OK It won't like no no as upgrade will will screw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/486">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► them in the way that Iowa State is probably able to screw the lowest supported device today we're getting very close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/492">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► that tipping point where the hardware is good enough for the basics to work or not there yet though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/498">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► and I think this is a painful period and the beginning of i OS like forget it you know the I O. S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/504">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► One was like once was that three G. and Especially three G. S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/509">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► Came out you didn't want to look at those old devices anymore you could not go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/513">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► but you do eventually hit some minimum threshold of like you know on the mac menus work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/516">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► when the resizing works scrolling works you can watch applications that waiting a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/521">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► and still hundreds until you can do without that will make your thing feel slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/526">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► but you we just need the basics of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► and we're not quite there yet so I'm hoping that this time period where Apple keeps doing the strategy of selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/532">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► devices for a long time giving giving them a lowest upgrade for a long time will eventually work out for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/537">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► when the cheapest device they're selling meets the minimum threshold required for just the basics to not be awful I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/544">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► think certain generations age better than others to like it in the case of the I O. S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/551">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► Devices where you'll have you'll have basically the old model being kept around for you know two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/556">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► or so certain certain chips and models have a lot more headroom in them than others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/561">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► and so like you know the original i Pad was not kept around because it did not have a lot of headroom had way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/569">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► little ram the A five with the i Pad two at the time had tons of headroom which is why they are still selling eighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/574">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► You know sir and you know the reason I've had many you know for an i Pad These days it's kind of sluggish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/586">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► but it still works. So that's why they can still sell it. But you know running i OS seven on the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/591">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► and a seven especially a seven really has a lot of headroom in it so like the current the current five C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/605">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► The A six I don't know how long they're going to keep selling a six devices. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/612">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► There aren't any i Pads with anymore but I would guess that the five C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/617">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► Internals from the i Phone five with the A six I would guess those stick around for a couple years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/623">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► and it really won't be that bad. The RAM problem is going to be an issue for even for the seven devices like the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/628">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► Apple's been so stingy with RAM they've done multiple generations without bumping the you know the Rams technique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/635">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► and that is going to hurt it much sooner than like you know you're not going to top out the A seven doing basic stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/641">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► find the A seven is clearly adequate for you know sliding views back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/648">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► and forth scrolling them responding to tap invents doing doing all the basic things you need that we're just talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/653">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► but if applications start using more memory because the applications become more sophisticated that a seven is not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/659">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► to save you if everything keeps getting swapped out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► and you can't fit things around you play one game in a booth at all your safari tabs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► and it's all sorts of you know so that's that's why I say we're getting close to to the threshold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/670">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► but we're not there yet so I would think even even the most expensive fancy as I was device you can get today has still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/675">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► not meet that met the minimum threshold of you can keep a device for like five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/680">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► and it will still be basically competent whereas I mean I'm sitting next to a Mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/684">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► Right now granted it's the top N one But again you know if you bought a top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/688">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► and Macin two thousand eight hundred photos shop I run lots of applications Granted I have created the RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/692">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► and all that stuff that's not true today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/701">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► and i Phone today in a couple years it will not be up to the task of doing running all the applications that even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/704">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► the basics of just being able I feel like every time I launch into this other thing it gets booted out of memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/711">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► and I can't even run this game because it requires. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/717">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► I'm around this thing as well that's not something that first of all real time follow up I was wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/720">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► They are still selling the i Pad four which has the A six and a six X. but The same C.P.U. So my mistake. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/725">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► Also I think you're right that you know high end Macs can last longer but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/733">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► but also don't forget if you're talking about a macro or almost everything's upgradeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► and modern Macs not only are most Macs old not macros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/743">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► but modern Macs don't even have one upgradable part anymore it used to be you know if you bought a MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/747">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► or MacBook Pro three years ago five years ago you could you could upgrade the RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/752">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► and hard drive over time you could maybe swap out the old spinning disk for the F.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/757">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► and Get another couple of good years out of it you can max out the RAM you know which is exactly what I did write a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/760">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► of people do that it's a great idea to do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/766">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► These are so cheap but that you know that the devices we buy today because they are so not upgradeable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/769">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► You know almost every mac that sold now doesn't have replaceable RAM anymore or the same but if you buy a top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/778">TS</a>]
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00:39:04 ◼ ► company called a MacMini vault. They post that here and you have a page goes on an Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► Put that we could be shown but no fans of Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► As you know have you know I guess you have to address all fans may be compact enough Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► Isn't going to produce heat if you packed enough of them in you need something to push that heat into the aisle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► and then the data set actually had like advent the front of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► Very strange I imagine like you know computing power to density ratio has to be pretty good with with an A if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► an eighty seven base Apple T.V. There has to be pretty good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► Yeah but I mean like the MacMini So these are these are not purpose built hardware for the data center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► and the people who do make purposeful harbor for the center have access to more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► or less the same technologies right so it's not as if you know this is the optimal solution just funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► and interesting from like imagine if you've got a bunch of these parks and you put them in a little drawer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► but realistically speaking it's Google still making their own blades out of God knows what it is. You know even better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2395">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► Yeah so first they went well do you care to share how many users you have I saw you tweeting earlier today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► How many sign ups you had what are we at in in at least a vague order of magnitude. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► Twenty one thousand eight hundred I was that is that people accounts are registered server side. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► Are those number of challenge for Napster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► That is accounts registered server side number of downloads I won't have until tomorrow morning when I got the stats. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► I mean you figure would be similar because it's you know you can't really use the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► and saves lineups of people download it and then launch it I guess but yeah yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► But yes I would imagine the number of downloads is probably substantially higher because there are going to be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► people who download it and just haven't launched yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► Some people who downloaded it got to the logon screen said I don't want to create an account and deleted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► or said I'll come back to this later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► and do this so I would guess number of actual downloads might even be as high as twice that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► Do you have the fact links from that first screen that says you know I said Create an account or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► and that's why it's called the skeptics faq it's because I knew people would say why don't need an account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► and that's why at the very first question. No I think the second question you should keep track of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► If they launch the app for the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► and don't either one of those buttons the second time they launch the app you should make the skeptic's fact like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► bold you know because I don't remember seeing it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► but like you want you want there is an explanation you might well given now there is an explanation of why why do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► have to make an account of any kind for a part. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► Yes And and this was I've had a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► and I didn't know this was another kind of risky thing I didn't know like if there be a lot of people who are offended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► by this and who would who would skip it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► You know who would cancel their efforts to try overcast entirely just because they didn't want to do that the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► the accounts are there is because this is an entirely server backed applet the server has all the cry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2515">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► All in all the updating all the notifications and everything the server does a lot of the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► and the afternoon have an X.M.L. Parser. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► The server does everything and just outputs Jaison to the applicant and decode quickly natively. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► Anyway and so there has to be some kind of user their vacation method between the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► and the server now if all I ever had was an i Phone app. Even even if all it ever was I O. S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► Apps that were on the same account I could I could do things the kind of hack around so I could do like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► generate a random idea the first time you use it and then use that as username behind the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► and never even show the user what their user name is and you know then they could that could work just fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► I could also you know store user ID string [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► and in i Cloud in the key value store so that way you know they could launch it on their i Pad after I make an I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► and it syncs over you know there are things that I could do the big problem with that is first of all that would almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► Second of all if I then had a way for them to add an email address and password to this account. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2576">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► Believe me I know what would happen because I had similar issues with people making accounted Instapaper what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► happen is people would make duplicate accounts they would they would you know rather than associate an email address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► with their current account they would create a new account inadvertently with the email address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► and then you have two accounts and they email me saying all my podcasts are gone because I logged into the new one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► They didn't know and then and then you have to find ways to merge accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► and it basically becomes a big issue with the with customer with perceived customer stability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► and data loss because they will do something weird that makes them think they lost everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► and then blame blame me and be very unhappy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► And also it just a massive burden on supporting mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► and so I chose you know what let me try instead just require the count for right up front explain it as best I can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► know a lot of people are still going to not do it but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► Let me just show you let me use require the kind of front make it always require an email address so I can do password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► resets and let you see if that works you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► Maybe that'll be fine and you know in the future if it ends up a lot of people are being turned off by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► and I really want their business. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► Then maybe I can add the system where OK just starts up with an anonymous ID and you can add an email address later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► but I would rather try this first because if this can work well enough it is so much easier to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► and it's so much easier as a user that it's always the same. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► All right and you say you say all these things as though you've been burned once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► or twice before I don't know what are you exactly right so let me start with a couple of obvious questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► and then I have some hopefully less obvious questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► and then as we talk I'm sure John will start tearing apart little bits and pieces of what you're saying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► I'm so looking forward to this. Do you want to save that for probably the end if we don't get to it in the middle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► I'm not that confident in the market for a paid up front to happen anymore especially because I want to charge a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► price for it. You know I'm going to purchase the the model is in summary the app is free. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► There are some limits the purchase removes the limits. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► That's one purchase one time five bucks and I read all the limits so it's kind of like a trial version. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► It's kind of my my hacky way of doing a trial version except that you know the entire app is an expire just certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► things just don't work after you know certainly don't work unless you pay. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► And even then and the two big things that don't work the Smarts speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► and voice boozed you can actually demo them without paying for five minutes like they're like a five minute trial of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► those features. I actually wasn't even sure if Apple would allow that but they did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► So it is basically a trial version and again so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► So I'm back a minute so that's five bucks I don't think if I launch today in the App Store. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► I'm sure my day one sales at five bucks would be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► A decent but I first of all I know I got way more people as this model than I would have with that model I know that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► Second of all I know over time that would be very hard to sustain because once the initial P.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► Is over and you know once all your friends and all your blog readers have bought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► and once everyone who's going to write about it has written about it then the sales of every app just tail off like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► crazy they just drop you know if you look at the graph it was like a rollercoaster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► And in the end they settle in to a point that eventually kind of lowers more hours. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► If your app is paid up front that happens faster and it happens more severely I've seen this happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► and you know Instapaper was always that model the entire time and it's still that model today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► I know that model very well that the paid up front model. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► I also know that in today's App Store in a competitive category where I don't even have the most features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2815">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► and people are very very picky with with what they want what they don't want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► I knew that a five dollars paid upfront app was not a good long term solution. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► and so I found a way to make free work you know I saw with Instapaper there are so many people who I would I would come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► in contact with in real life even like even like family friends I would like you know because in them I'd see on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► phone they were still using paper free even though two years after it has continued. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► I think there are so many people who matter how much they like you they just they don't pay for apps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► It isn't like it isn't just that they like Walt it's that they in their minds don't like they that's are something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► don't do it like that's kind of the kind of mindset it is who buys batteries Marco. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► There's there's just there's a lot of people this is not a small group a lot of people who really just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2871">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► and I knew that the the biggest pod cast app in the world by a very large margin is Apple's pod cast up the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► biggest by a pretty large margin is stitcher. Both of those are free. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► I want to make an app that's good and free because the fact is the apple pie is not bad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► That's the biggest competition of the market and it's free and it has a lot of features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► and it has some features I can't I could never have like integration with i Tunes there are alternatives here you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► I could have like somebody to chat I could of done as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► but I've never seen an addon app that I thought maybe app look good you know like it's it's as an after a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► intrusive because I think of so much space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► and the inventory is usually I don't I don't mind doing pod cast ads here because their advertisers are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► and because for the rest of the show you know we're giving like you know six minutes of ads out of a ninety minute show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► when ads in an app not only are the advertisers usually terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► but it's taking up a pretty big chunk of the screen all the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► That's a much bigger cost on the user than the kind of ads I respect like podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► and you know well done blog ad like the deck ads and it's a very different ratio and the advertisers are all cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► and crappy And so I just I don't like app ads at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► And there are also features in the app like the Twitter feature where you know so I offer these like Twitter based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► recommendations where you can connect a Twitter account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► and you can get recommendations based on the people you follow based on what they listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► and you know if they've been to their accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► and that kind of feature works best the more people you have it's a social feature. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► And this is why all social apps for free are at that because this social network value exponential blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► and so this is the same way where that feature becomes a lot better if I have more people using it so I decided rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► than you know get five bucks from everybody I was going to try to try to get five bucks from us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/2992">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► From a few of the people who use the app and just try to make the app as cheap as possible to host like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► And I focus on that from day one because I did not want to miss the point with where I was Instapaper where it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► very expensive to host this with with with overcast. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► I have made every possible focus on keeping it as cheap as possible on the servers. That's why I'm online node. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► That's why I have my big expanded version of the hosting we're going to be five hundred bucks a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► and I'm probably going to get away with more like two or three hundred after this is all done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► The whole point of this was cheap hosting make this sustainable that way and so the next question is which a few of R.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► Asked is Why not a subscription price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► and I thought about that awhile to at my my model for the purchase I've been all over the place with that in my in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► Originally I was you know I was going to do everything is unlocked and you just pay what you want for the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► and that you know I thought about that I got some input from some trusted people and that just it wasn't very good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► Is that even allowed on the App Store How would you how would you get the money from them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► I actually asked them that because I think that's a good question. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► I talked to a couple people at Apple who have you know the people I could find. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► They don't necessary publish a directory or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► but the people I could find who might be relevant to an apple I try to e-mailing in and got various places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► and all them kind of ended with well maybe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► So it was kind of a question mark as to whether that would be allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► and generally with apps Torah stuff you don't want to live on a question mark edge of a rule. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► What you said earlier John exactly right which is the cost of hosting each user goes down with time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► So the only way that my if I'm if I'm responsible about how our hostess and how I manage the resources. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3102">TS</a>]
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01:05:21 ◼ ► and it demands different things I would be able to use my audio engine and any of the effects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► and they're all so I could use that I could use a compressor but I couldn't I couldn't use smart speeds really weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► and there's a bunch of stuff that I couldn't it would be harder to do with video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► and the whole interface had to accommodate video and then you know you have the question of like I will. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► Are you allowed to mix video into play lists and if so what do you do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► Like do you start playing video podcast episodes right in the middle of audio What if you're in the car like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► weird beings with supporting video that I don't think are worth it because I don't think a video pod casts are that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► of a requirement. I would venture a guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3957">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► Jordy a park has listeners don't listen to any video podcast is just such a different medium in video I think was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► was for me at least it was an easy decision not to support. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► You don't use it you just don't do it the same time as it's a different demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► and I think also most videos move to You Tube these days so I was going to say like our video blog as even a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► anymore other than You Tube channels more or less replace them but I mean I suppose they're they're still out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► If I was into video I guess I would want to have that was built around a video podcast because the right there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► different and I suppose you could make one super apps does both audio and video but that's a tall order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► and like I would be perfectly having separate applications for video audio pockets I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► and people use the You Tube application if they're watching You Tube channels and stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► Exactly so that's one of video no streaming was was harder to harder to take. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► Basically the reason I don't have streaming is not because it's some oversight that I just forgot to add it as some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4012">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► That's not why the reason I have streaming is that all my audio processing stuff is done using RAW low level Core Audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► A.P.I. Eyes that don't inherently automatically provide streaming support the other apps use A.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► Player framework is higher level the downside of the players it removes one of the control that you have there is a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► to do voice boost. Not quite as well but you can do it with a little more C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► and If you do it that way but you can it is possible to voice boost with a B. Player. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► To the best of my knowledge it is not possible to smart speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► and I've thought about lots of it with the thought of a lot of different ways to maybe attempt to hack smart speed into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► Player and I just could not come to anything that was that was remotely doable and reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► and not like the ridiculous horrible pile of terrible fragile hacks that would break immediately. So you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4072">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► And to make smart speed I had to do rock or audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► and I thought smart speed was a good in the future to make that worth adding months to the relevant time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► and making me have to reimplement things that everyone else gets for free with every player including streaming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► other thing is when the other apps that do streaming they have to do in a limited way because A.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► Player three reasons that I believe I tried asking Apple about this to B.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► In a lab this year no one really knew for sure or at least told me but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► but it seems that the reason why is because of H T V live streaming and its D R M and expectation thereof. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► You can't save a stream and you can't turn a download into a stream you have to either stream something or download it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► You can't do both you can't just like start playing a partial download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► and you definitely can't convert a stream into a download like you know just stream it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► and just say just save what you're streaming until it's done and then say that of a file you can't do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4134">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► when I do add streaming which is I'm going to begin work on Naturally once one point stuff settles down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► I'm going to do it so that you can just start playing a progressive download. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► Doing that well in the background download system requires new capabilities that are in Iowa state only so it made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► sense to wait until I was eight came out and do it then and so that's going to do with streaming. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► So I ask a genuine question why is streaming such a big deal not from a development side from a user side like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► have been times I've wanted to listen to a show and it hasn't been downloaded and so I just wait for it to download. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► Like what am I missing that makes this such a big deal to so many people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► Most of most of the benefit stream and I think has been removed with background downloading and I was there seven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► I really think that you know for the most part most people are going to have things downloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► when there's you know at home or the office on why five. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4196">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► And they will never even notice the downloading and then you know they'll go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► and start listening in those they have downloaded but streaming is really useful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► Like when you're adding a podcast and you want to start playing it immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► and so for that instance like oh I want I just discovered this episode of the show where we start playing this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► now. You can't women not you personally but you can't wait like literally sixty seconds. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► Also the chat room saying storage space I mean I know I shouldn't be arguing with anyone I just I didn't realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► people were running within like fifty or one hundred megs of the limits of their device. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► I'm surprised to hear that you got all the gigs free I just try to upgrade my I seventy one to which I had forgotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► that I had enough credit for that and day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► Well every time I try to have a grid I was nothing tells me No no space only one point four gigs are available so I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► to go delete stuff and you know getting in a lot of room just for the for even small upgrades. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► Also like a lot of I mean there's issues of download speed also. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4256">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► Yeah that which is what the chat room is now telling me is that I'm spoiled by L.T.E. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► Slash decent wife well and also some podcast are hosted on servers a C.D.N. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► That themselves don't on the files very quickly or can't in the files very quickly. Yeah that is a big problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► So my experience I was I don't have an i Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► but life with my bae touches with the background downloads every time I pick up my i Pod Touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► and go to overcast over the past month or so I've been using it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► Everything's already downloaded because it's just been sitting there my wife by all day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► when I said No I actually I want it like you just want to get this episode I do the thing you just said Daisy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► and I go to download it and I look at that one percent two percent you know I go all know exactly and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► and for me I can say well I'm going to get in the car and drive away anyway so that leave my house to download stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► It's an i Pod touch so I guess not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► I think there are two use cases one of the people like me music streaming you think of people like just wandering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► around constantly pulling audio over cell data. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► but I think the other use case is I just I don't want to have to wait for the download to finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► and I want to be able to start listening if that's like can't because presumably the service can send audio data fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► enough that you can listen to it in more or less real time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► So that's what I would like out of the screen as and I remember being frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► when Apple first added podcast i Tunes I got all excited when the podcast got a subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► and so the downloading BOM Likewise in a play is not going to play until I finish downloading this is ridiculous you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► know he used to like everything you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► Web browsers if you go to an audio file a video like of course it starts playing the whole thing downloads it's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► know but podcasts weren't like that probably for a frame or agreements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► and by the way a lot of people in the chat room have mentioned lots of other pod cast outs that already do this I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► the market was saying is that the framework Apple provides don't give you a convenient way to do that so if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► do that it is entirely possible you have to do it yourself though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► and one market say if you want to wait until I was eight because their frameworks that make that easier. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► All these other people thought of as apps like artist I've got a big head start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► and they've already implemented their own way to do all these things centrally I think what it comes down to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► screaming is for streaming. You gotta pick what's going to make it into one point oh and that one didn't make the cut. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► I mean if you had added streaming you'd be waiting many more months before thinking about where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► and specifically what what they do and they need you know this is no big top secret. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► What they've added any is the ability to basically use streaming on the same download that can become a background on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► that if it has to even set in if you want to do a background download on the Apple isn't running order. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► You kick off the request and it says all right and then it can tell you progress updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► but if you can't get to the data until it's done so there's no way to stream that So if you were offering before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► had to offer streaming in a way that well and you also can't convert any other downloads into a back or download. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4433">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► So you'd have to offer streaming in a way that if you were streaming hit pause and you know the app got terminated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► or got background and that would get canceled in failure and you start over again with a back or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► and if you want a file where what they've added in eight is the ability to convert a streaming data download into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► background download so that sort of that use case can can continue and you can do that well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► So that's that's a that's a mini is right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► What about the dev process surprised you the most was it just that there are that many screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► or was there something else I was most surprised at all this audio stuff worked on an i Phone And that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► pretty good answer really because it was like oh my god the amount of processing I do on every sample that goes through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► forty four thousand one hundred times per second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► or if you're a stereo pod cast eighty eight thousand two hundred times per second the amount of like just processing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4494">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► and math like I look at almost every sample in some way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► When smart appears on least and he wants more speed is off to render the little peak meters animation E.Q. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► Animation I'm looking at every sample I look like I'm doing an F.F.T. On every sample. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► That's crazy talk to it like in like thinking about that like just logically that shouldn't be so fast on an i Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► It's it runs at thirty frames a second i Phone four. Like I end without messing up the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► and To answer people in the chat talking a battery impaired and everything. I was concerned about battery impact. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► I've been using this for over a year now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► and the battery impact is fine it's fine like it's it's not what hits the battery the hardest is playing shows faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► and So to some degree smart speed does that because the reason why that's so hard is that you're then asking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► hardware to process. More than forty four thousand one hundred frames per second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► You're asking it to you know if you're playing at one point five X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► It's going to process you know sixty whatever frame frames per second so it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► when you're playing faster than one X. It still has to like decode the M P three read all that data. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► Proselyte all that data. So it's it's it's doing all that work more per second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► That is what makes a big battery impact if you look at the C.P.U. Usage meter as you're running one of these things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► But that's true of all the pod cast apps including Apple's like they all have that problem because that's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► reality of playing data quickly is that you have to then read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► and process it more quickly so you have to do more of it and costs if you time you're not doing the evil eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► or animation when the screen is off right. Correct. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► If if there isn't one on screen or the screen is off or the app is not foreground then it does not do anything right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► What's your favorite feature which may or may not be the one you're most proud of. I'm different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4612">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► OK I think my favorite one is is playlist reordering the way we play with random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► and it's crazy because I really wanted this particular feature which is I didn't want to have to distinguish between a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► manually organized playlist and a smart playlist the way you know most like i Tunes or the ballet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► I want it all to list to be smart and mentally organized. So that's how I did you know in Africa. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► So you can set your criteria for your playlist and you know what should be included. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► But you can always just drag it around to reorder it and then when new things come in your order is preserved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► and it just tries to you know it tries to obey the filters in a reasonable way and the priority settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► and everything to try to fit a new episode in where it should probably go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► Given your reordering you know when you first told us about overcast you know that was quite a while ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► when you were talking about things like smart Smeaton things that you were. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► Trying to include in it and you had told us about your playlist ideas. Possibly it was underscore and I doubt it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► In South Carolina but regardless of when I'd never use playlists ever in any park has staff ever used and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► when you gave us the beta I tried to do a playlist for things that just aired and I listened to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► Which is basically just Tyrrell talk and everything else and every time I started fiddling with the playlist settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► or perhaps reordering the playlists like you were describing it was very quickly apparent to me that this was something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► that I've always wanted in my life I just didn't know it yet and it's really really well done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► and I am not surprised that you count that as your favorite feature I think my favorite is probably smart speed because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► I think it is so transparent. But the playlists are a close second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► Yeah I mean smart speech I think is deafening what I'm most proud of because you know smart speed is it's a big it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► hard thing to do look at it like one of my one of my formulas for my own happiness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4736">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► and intellectual happiness as well as success in the app world is it's nice if you do like one hard thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► and a lot of easy things in an app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► That's a really good balance to have because if you do it one really hard thing that makes it harder for competitors to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► do and the copy you feature by feature. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► But then all the easy things help it be easier to maintain for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► and usually like a lot of things that are very hard to do aren't really worth it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► Like they don't they don't bring it isn't a must have feature for customers so you know be careful what you pick. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► But like you know I talked in the last half a show about how I work so hard on the Kindle feature for Instapaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► and in reality it probably wasn't worth all the effort I put into it because it was hard. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► It's easier these days with some of the tools but it was hard anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► Smart speed is is a very hard feature to implement Well you can do it badly in a few easier ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► but I want to do it right and I want to do it well and not easy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4795">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► That said there isn't anything stopping of the other pocket of developers from doing it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► So you know like just time and dedication and you know possibly having to rewrite a lot of code. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► It's not like it's going to be closer to me forever like I'll be lucky if it's closer to me for six months you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► But anyway and yes I know R.S.S. Radio already does it to print any so it was of today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► But anyway I'm very proud of that I'm also a very very proud that my E.Q. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► Meter's animation thing actually works because the whole reason I did that is because Apple in their music I have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► Iowa seven like the the problem I was trying to solve with that was how do you indicate in the in the list of episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► how do you indicate which one is currently playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► and the way Apple handles this is they have a little pink animation in the music screen that is like a tiny version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4852">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► this in like a little circle on the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► or something like that it's tiny version of a few meters you know what drives me crazy about it is that it's fake it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► just it's just a candid admission of some bars moving up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► and down it is not actually reflecting the music that is playing. So me being a smart ass and being arrogant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► I thought you know what I thought I could do that for real. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► And so I tried and I let you know and further that I'm probably have to use Open G.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► and To make it really fast and then kind of Hardy's Open G.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► On a trans loosened blended layer that's going to blend into the rest of you I care that's not easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► and I really didn't want the overhead of doing G.L. Because I don't want to spend two weeks on this one of the future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► What made you think you know we're going to use up in jail for it just to get information fast enough or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► or for battery reasons like you know like maybe I could do it with with quick draw or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► but maybe would take too long in your throat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► You mean you mean the actual drawing process to life so what you worried about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► Not so much the you know coronation will be run through of a job of like that you don't want to have to draw the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► lines with core graphics thinking that would be you would be able to get sixty venturous I can out of that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► worried about that and I was also worried about you know the F.F.T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► During the background pressing on the second like what is that going to do to battery life for a living and G.P.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► G.P.S. and They're waiting to run your D.S.P. Functions on it. I thought about that but also the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► Versions of it works so incredibly well for for the for the scale I'm running them on I don't I don't think you'll make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► The libraries they have those what are they called the arm extensions the arms and extensions neon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► or something like presumably Apple's libraries are you know using that behind the scenes on the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► To support it so it's kind of like you get your own you know like all tobacco all over again. Exactly yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:48 ◼ ► So so I made you know a very heavy use of the Accelerate framework the B.D.'s P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4968">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► Functions which I'll do as I as far as I know they all think they'll use neon when when and whenever they can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► And so so I made this little eyes are with that I realized how quickly it ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► and it was originally only going to be on like just overlaying the artwork on the table cells. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► That's all I needed it for and then I realized oh this is really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► and I also added to the main playing screen first of all because it will cool in a cynical way is to have it on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► the navigation screens and not on the Now Playing screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► And also because I thought it might help like if you look into a pod cast on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► but you know if you're you're not doing something else if you're like sitting on the couch looking at your phone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► nothing else is going on or you're like sitting commuting on a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► or you know something that you want to signal to other people that you're listening. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► Now I want to well first of all it is nice that it has a feature like you know a lot of a lot of other acts of the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► way you can tell they're playing is you know if the time is moving basically and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► or you know the simple change on the play button but like it's it's these are pretty subtle signals. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5036">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► Over cat it's very clear once playing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► but also I want to give people who were just sitting there with their phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► and had nothing else to do something to look at. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► Like just something to keep you visually entertain a little bit so that maybe just maybe you'll for a few seconds more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► not switch over to Twitter and stop intentionally or listening to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► So it was kind of like a political statement as well like let me give you some reason to stay in this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► and something to use lock your visual tension so that you can pay attention to the pod cast rather than switch in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► and you know zoning it out so while you mirror all the bars Johnny I thought it looked better that it was better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► Simple as that there were there were a number of good reasons why the number of bars had to be nineteen eighteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► nineteen. Yeah there were a number of reasons the number had to be no greater than one nine hundred like that the F.T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► Window size it would like it would've been really difficult and more a much more complicated and much more C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5093">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► Buckets so I couldn't do more bars than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► and so not not always it was better to have the shape be symmetrical the bars form rather than just being like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► slope and you fall off the edge of the screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► So not only is the shape symmetrical but also the bars can be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► and thin relative to you know not being with these you know big fat ones you know interplay between the parser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► and have is that stupid. Yeah I can do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► All right so I've got two more questions and then I genuinely like to hear John destroy your future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► Firstly what do you hope people appreciate and perhaps you feel like you've already answered that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► But as an example of something we haven't really talked about yet is the link to other athletes to do it before we made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► or do we have any other topics we want to get now I don't want to I don't want to take over too late to be done of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► topics but they'll keep till next week. Yeah and if you can the way many because I keep asking. So it's my fault. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5155">TS</a>]
01:26:03 ◼ ► So what do you hope people appreciate what I was trying to say was an example of this that I've seen a lot of positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5163">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► feedback for from whatever was the linking to the other independent pod cast apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► and I've seen a lot of comments fly by about how that was a classy thing to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► Maybe that's your answer maybe it isn't but what do you hope users of the app really appreciate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► To answer to answer the question directly what I hope people really appreciate is a smart speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► and the voice boost because these are the things that that just were the hardest they took the longest like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► and for the time being they set me apart. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► These are features that they don't immediately scream oh my God must have to do a lot of people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► Some people sure but not not too probably the majority of people. But once you try them they're incredibly valuable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► and some people don't some people never play poker session one ex they don't want you don't see the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► or they don't like the sound or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► A lot of people couldn't possibly care about the volume normalization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5217">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► and everything that's fine you know you don't need everyone to look to love you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► and you don't ever want to appreciate the amount of work you put in anything that's you know the amount of work you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► into something does not correlate to its value. So that's fine but I but I hope people appreciate that stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► and so that's that's a show that had to get to the question that you kind of asked about you know why did the the link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► I basically have a section settings that links to all my competitors for all not all them like this all my competitors. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► Probably the biggest one the main reason why I did is that it was kind of it was kind of a What the hell moment it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► like you know what I don't want to do this thing and I think it would be pretty cool. I was afraid that it was a risk. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► I saw it as a risk in two reasons one small one big the small risk was that Apple rejected it because they have pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► strict rules about whether you can display and link. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5276">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► Two other apps within your app and under what conditions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► and if you read the rules OK Mike Well this might qualify as might not like it it was a little bit vague [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► and I wasn't sure if they would approve it. Turns out they don't care. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► Not yet at least so we'll see you know future updates. We'll see if this feature will smith so far they don't care. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► The second concern that Americans are because if they say I can't do it fine I take it as resubmit no big deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► The second reason though was I was afraid that it would my my goal was doing this with linking to my competitors was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► really well meaning it was really to just like you know some of these people are my friends this is a small business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► these are all indie developers like me talking like I'm not linking to like major corporations with a V.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► Funding who were trying to crush everybody and put it right out of business like that's and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► and that's not this business this is a business of small independent of elders who are very similar to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► and I want to kind of show solidarity with it almost like just kind of be friendly with the business rather than being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► and again some of these people are friends of mine which made it even easier to do it I was afraid that it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► perceived as like me looking down on these people like oh you don't like my apple fine just take one of these you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► because I'm like the arrogant everyone hates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:25 ◼ ► and you know like that's I was I was worried about that perception happening but it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► and in fact not only did it not happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► I don't I didn't see a single person who seemed to think that having that feature in the app I think has gotten me more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► and more comments more e-mails that are all positive than anything else in the app including like all my future smarts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► be a few people like that more than everything else I've done in the app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► According to what people are telling me about what you are posting on Twitter people love it. They rule. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5395">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► Of it I was going to bring up the one Jericho I saw who is who was yelling at you about that on Hacker News I guess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► but anyway rest assured that the Internet having to read through all of her going to redact in a strand I want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► all upset that you cling to your time like it takes a special kind of determination to dislike somebody if you're out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► of the way that someone linking to his competitors in a respectable way from his application is somehow you know shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► that he is a terrible person but this person took their best shot at it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► So my last question which I think you just answered seconds ago was what was your most surprising response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► and it sounds like linking to other people's apps was that. Yeah definitely that and a combination of both. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► How many people immediately saw that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► and immediately cared about it in a positive way so that's number one number two I was really just overall very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► pleasantly surprised at how positive the reactions generally were I didn't know until this launch I had no idea whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► anyone would care about the new cool stuff I did because I have because I you know I don't support the i Pad The MAC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► Android. I barely support the web. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► I don't have streaming I don't support videos like there's all these limitations in overcast pretty you know those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► pretty big missions to a lot of people but they're not very big to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► I only listen on my i Phone I didn't really feel myself that all these other platform clients were important to have on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► day one. Not as important as launching you know a year earlier saying all right so there is there is that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► I also you know I never want to be a pod cast because I always listen to podcasts in contexts where I can't look at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► screen so I don't use video podcast and streaming as I said like I'm going to add streaming. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► I did make and Version one because it wasn't it wasn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5517">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► So important to hold back the release from the three months while I did it and wait for I was like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► So that's that's why. Overall though I didn't know how many people out there thought like me on this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► Like certain features I don't even have big and small. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5533">TS</a>]
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01:32:25 ◼ ► and it turns out there are there are a few Of course it is always going to be a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► but it's a much smaller percentage of people than I expected. Yeah that's awesome. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► And I should to back up just a brief moment I should point out that I was curious how you were going to handle ordering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► the pod cast apps that you were linking to because one could perhaps unreasonably construe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► or whatever you put at the top is clearly your most favorite of all your competitors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► and I don't remember if it was that you told me or I noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5574">TS</a>]
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01:33:03 ◼ ► screen right. But once I saw what I thought was that was a very clever idea and a really good touch as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► Yeah I do the same thing for the same reason with the directory categories like that the category list itself is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► ordered intentionally but the DE pod cast in each category are randomly ordered every time you look nice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► Same reason because it's like you know I don't I don't want to like I don't want to have to rank these like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► one through six in this category like I don't I don't care that much that I don't want to be like that too alphabetical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► but then you have like a triple A tech show if people are going to be gaming your particular i Pod i Pod get up with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► Well that like your listens to Casey it's like you want to add that security now or later. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► So yeah that's that's why I did that that way and also by the way another risk that I thought the only. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5633">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► A developer who was in that list who knew about it beforehand would underscore David Smith he's a friend of ours is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► the beta so a pod Wrangler bonus for David Smith that was the only app on there that knew about it beforehand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► and this could still happen that one of those developers get really pissed off at me for including them on that list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► and would demand removal. If that happens I can do it server side it's no big deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► But why oh why would they demand removal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► I don't maybe they really hate me as a competitor and don't want to be in my app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► and all I don't know they don't want you to link to their app I don't. I thought it was a risk it was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► I don't think it was a major risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:37 ◼ ► but I was worried like what if one of these competitors gets really upset with me putting them in here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5677">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► I think it's an insane thing to have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► but I concur with you Marco that that is something I would worry about as well if I were you I mean keep in mind I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► been kind of over overly sensitive to what of this thing I'm doing that I think is well meaning and and harmless. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:59 ◼ ► What could people possibly have a major problem with. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5699">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► Because everything I've written on the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► or said here has been attacked with that kind of standard recently so I have to be very careful like to just try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► think in what ways can this be totally misconstrued. That would cause problems for me or other people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► So on a chair and I thought of something I thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► when I first saw this is like if you had put things from a corpse in there they would be like you can use our trademark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► Technically maybe However it's their app on which I'm loading from the App Store using it to show their app pig so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► I'm not sure that would really hold water but you know if anybody can point out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► or move them it's no big deal like I said I could do it server side and by coming out one line in a raid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► but still it gets rather I'd rather avoid conflicts rather than like invite them and then try to escape them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► But overall based on the on the response from that competitor's list I think it was the right move. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► I am totally blown away by how many. Will just love it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► Right so the chat room would like me to ask how do you handle the retired greats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► and perhaps in general could you give us just a quick blurb on how you handled the directory. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► Overall I would sit together three days ago and I intend update it sometimes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► That's a that's kind what I thought I'm not sure what they're looking for you to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► but at least with the directory part like the categories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► or it's like oh this is a Tech podcast is that how is that term is that meditated in the broadcast of that you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► saying oh this is the tech part again these are all hand-picked in my admin panel like I can create categories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► and put whatever I want into them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► But so it's not it's not exhaustive I have no browser just like here's a project I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► Yeah it's it's meant to be a starting point so there's every category has in it a subscribe to all button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► and the idea of adding this like I want one of my beta testers asked you know is this here because a lot of people need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► to do this like it is a common request while there is grabbed all button taking up a whole table row in the directory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► and the reason why there is not because anybody has ever asked anybody for that feature as far as I know it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► it's kind of an opportunistic like well let me give them a chance maybe somebody will do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► It's a way in my opinion it's a way to promote podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► and to give people a quick way if they have if they subscribe to nothing if this is their first time ever using a punk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► ass that they don't know what is ascribed to go pick category had described all you have you know enough content to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► last you most of your time that you need that you need to listen to something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► So that's basically it it was like the silly little mini collections like little mini curated collections of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► six to eight pod cast in each category. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► The idea was not to be exhaustive but to provide like a starter kit to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► and this was this is a hedge I don't know if the directory will prove to be the most important part here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► In which case I should probably make it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► We're bust or if most people will use search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► and Twitter to find their stuff so this is kind of a hedge where I have this I have you know like a medium strength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► Twitter feature a basic directory and a good search and I think a good search you always have to have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► So that's that's the question you have to have that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► But between with the twitter of the director really which one do I focus more time on the future that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:24 ◼ ► determined by what people actually use. Well you can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5904">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► You're going to amp up your directory as people start using the application because then you can do the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► Apple does it store them assuming you don't have access to Apple's meditator right like your new node where the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► rated or whatever but you can say it like popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► or pretty soon you'll know what what are the popular tech podcasts not just from your list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► but in general like you know if you are willing to categorize a large portion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► or scrape categorisation plays a large portion of the broadcast you have data to know this one even you could rank them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► by popular like you know what is the most popular comedy podcast and brought out one of the top. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5935">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► Well the process put their they put i Tunes category metadata in the feed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► Usually I suppose because the i Tunes has this R.S.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► Spec that almost every part has featured Here's two so they could be listed and items and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► and so many podcast claim their own categories in the feed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► So if I wanted to do something with that I could I don't I'm not convinced the value of that if you if you browse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► around with the i Tunes topless like once you leave the editorial areas of i Tunes like the editor's picks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► and stuff if you go to the site the raw top top things in this category list I don't know how useful that is I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► sure this is going on I don't know yet I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► Do most people find their pod cast by present directory or by searching for them by name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► and the social one is probably the most reliable even though it seems like the weirdest in the way it is though I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► put my Twitter thing in or whatever to give recommendations from your friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► or people you follow with us like the top list if you ranked by popularity like just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/5995">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► The same stuff ALWAYS IS LIKE THIS AMERICAN LIFE is going to be the number and you know it's spoiler. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► That's what's going to be the number one thing right with this really super bowl and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6004">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► but who hasn't heard of This American Life and in some respects is like well that's a good target. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► People you know there's a high chance to just an average person picked out of a hat will like this pod to gas because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:18 ◼ ► But with this park with a curated list then it's like well if your taste is like Marcos then you will you may like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6018">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► of these takes more than you would LIKE THIS AMERICAN LIFE BECAUSE IT'S JUST egos it's quirky as your particular thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► with us whether the social one is actually the best because you have to find someone who has similar taste to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► and then follow their recommendations to the super popular one only works if you are not an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► but are rather the average human being because then you're like oh yes exactly I am the average human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► and I like the best things you know it's I find I pod cast people are most excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► when they find something that may not be particularly part of the show for example I may not be particularly popular in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► the grand scheme of things on This American Life that level. But exactly speaks to their particular interests. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► Like I like people who have one particular kind of model train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► and they will be so excited about a podcast just about that kind of model train. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► They will love that show more than THIS AMERICAN LIFE. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► and that's I really think the social features are much more useful than the directory from us really I think the role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► of the directory. It's a starting point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► Right and that's that's why you know I have like my my little starter kits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► and in these little categories that's fine but you know once you get past give me a few things in X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► Category the browsing experience is terrible the usefulness of the rankings is off you know that's why I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► this whole social thing is the way to go. I don't know. All right John. Do your worst. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► Thanks a lot two or three sponsors need Squarespace and fracture. Or and we will see you next week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6115">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► Now it was accidental accidental. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► John thank you for not getting any access to that list that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6135">TS</a>]
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01:43:11 ◼ ► anything that like I should I should have been giving more here I do in a beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► but every time I went to the beta feedback thing and I read it I read everyone else feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► and like you know they're getting all the stuff to help my you know people would say I think yeah good someone so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► are it out and did something you had a lot of debate a tester so they covered everything more or less. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► Although you know I mean I have a few things like it's rather some isn't already been said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► but the berthing on the show. What did they cover in sufficiently one insufficient. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► So I talked to you about this once in an after show before like things are revealed but. So let me just start with me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► But I tweeted was like I'm using this happens that of my i Pod shuffle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:49 ◼ ► and I am like I'm off of my i Pod shuffle now part of a Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6229">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► and not so much application as I switched over to like you know wirelessly playing it during my commute. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► Just when I believe it's the Yeah Yeah. But the other part of this is the other part. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► I'm one of those people who does not care about smart speed I don't listen to things that more than one X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► I don't need a volume booster so all those features you spent a long time ago are meaningless to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► but I would not be using your application at all but I have other pod cast apps that I purchased right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► I didn't use them for you for to any compiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► but it's because what I was doing with my i Pod Shuffle besides cursing at it I was bringing bringing it back to i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► and various times I would either with my old i Pod Shuffle I would manually drag individual episodes onto the i Pod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► shuffle like you know sync manually sync individual episodes right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► when I got a new i Pod Shuffle didn't let me do it that way and I had to make a playlist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► but it was still just a manual playlist I would drag individual episodes into a manual playlist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► and think of the i Pod shuffle and what I was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► when I dragged him into playlists that I was like All right here's the order that I want to listen to that I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► a screen on the i Pod I can play on it in the car and he's going to play in exactly in the right order. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6293">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► and so I would say Oh well as soon as an episode of you know whatever Radovan lying comes out I want to listen to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► right away even if I'm in the middle of an episode of some other thing that I was alluding to I want to run it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► landing on the top but you know I want I want to do these three episodes in this order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► and I wanted them as a block I was it was like priority order but with manual adjustments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► and that sounds familiar it's exactly what Obama has done and that is probably maybe the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► and only main reason I use applications because the playlists allow me to make an arrangement is exactly what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► doing manual before the difference is now that I mean you know it's it's on a server somewhere it's synchronized so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► like I did I'm stalled overcast on my i Pad two now that I get a lesson from there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► It keeps track of where I am I don't have to have the problem of like switching off different environment of I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► have the shuttle with me rarely do anything that deny us device will know where I left off whatever so I was on with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► the play positions on all of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► and as I realize things that follows me around as well so this is an automation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6355">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► One of the terrible manual process I was doing before. So that's why I use the application. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► But as to the supposed to be complaining about it I mean this is a great complete what I'm trying to explain here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► that people said oh well you know people on Twitter are arriving as like as many debates one off for me saying that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► It's less you care about exactly the things that the same things that I care about that doesn't mean this application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► Because if you if you care about the smart sweet stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► and I don't like that it's a whole different set of priorities as are you getting it with all the people the feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► If you do have a pocket of is useless to you if it doesn't use video podcasts you have to like that because under video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► Parkinson everybody has something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► and so the same reason that I really like this application is like a reason that someone else might reject it entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► The demands people have applauded as applications are so different that hearing just to go like well John recommended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6412">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► must be good. No maybe it's no good for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► Maybe you want a feature that it doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► or in the case of video that it's probably never going to have that just because I recommend it doesn't mean that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► automatically good like it just means it fits my needs appropriately and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► and I think the playlists feature in particular. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► I can't be the only one who does maybe I'm the only one who did it manually because it's just too much of a pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► but once people can do it without the pain that I was going through like Dubai is dragging this time around I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► lot of people will find that feature I mean like you were saying your favorite feature I think that is the killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► feature even though it's like I know you but you have to reorder stuff on the table do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► and did a little our rhythm to nick stuff when in the right place more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► or less that it I think is the most important thing for me for this application. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► But my first complaint is related to that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► When I went to try to say OK Well Marco has applications as a player stuff let me I did first want to have faith that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► was going to just make a manual play us out as manually do stuff like I was done before even that would be an upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► because manually dragging tracks on the i Pod shuffles a nightmare compared to doing it on the screen as a previous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6474">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► But shuttle owner using an i Pod shuffle in any way other than playing a random selection of music tracks is horrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► Even random selection is attractive horrible if you have other stuff on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► but the voice over thing where it tells you like if you happen to have you know music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► and podcast you gotta make sure and you're in the right realm before you start playing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► Oh wow that was that was added after my shuffle time I had the very first shuffle and I think the third one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► Yeah I've had a series of them and they're not my friends a lot of it is that i Tunes being crappy too but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► when I was trying to make my first playlist I saw that it has this priority podcasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► and then I remember you talking about the manual we are in with the priorities I don't understand why a priority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► podcast as a thing our concept in the application like that there is two kinds of pontiff there as a priority podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► meaning a podcast that can have a priority and then non priority podcasts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:53 ◼ ► Why not just make all the pop is the first thing I do when I make any playlists is I say select priority park guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6533">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► and I select them all because they all have a priority like nope there's no tail be Enron like OK this is my top five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► Everything else is just exactly equal because what I find myself having to do is go into the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► and say select priority part guess Aleck's likes likes likes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► and that's that feels like it doesn't need to exist like that concept of a priority in a nonprofit upon seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► complication that could confuse people into thinking they can't get the players they want really they can it's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► no you gotta Marcos' priority podcast first and maybe I'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► and other people really do want to say I have three Party Podcast and everything else I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► and it's just a big it's just a big much for me but that's me that's me too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► I want I want all of them to be proud to get because I know I mean there's not that many are in a read of my mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► and twelve subscriptions I know which ones I what I want and all twelve of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► It's not as if I am confused about anyone to the Bahraini people in chat rooms saying they just want to protest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► but for me that is an additional complication that frankly confused me at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► and then it frustrated me every time I had to go make clothes because I had selected. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6596">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► and even now I want to add a description with a five hundred caught up like they couldn't even put core intuition on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► here yet when I go out that I'm going to have to remember to go into my playlists and market is a priority podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► and sort it rather than it just being becoming the last party podcast or whatever or the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► or something like that now it's in the non-party podcast category. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► Well I find that pressing a couple people have already been plenty about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► but like this I know I have a crappy A five device but there's a pause sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► when i type of thing before it switches screens before it starts playing I don't know what it's doing during that pause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► but it's not playing the audio it's for already downloaded stuff you have any idea what that ye know that's that's real. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:36 ◼ ► Yeah that that is like I have to I have to think that basically like the A.P.I. For reading audio files. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6636">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► It's just like this old blocking C. A.P.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► and What I would love to do is have a lower level access to the file so I could like whatever it's doing for uncertain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► files were actually pre load something or pre read something to get from zero to playing I would love to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6655">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► when it downloads and then cache the result of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► So that way when you go to play it you can play instantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► but I don't have a I don't have a kind of access to the eyes and maybe I can go lower level somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► Some kind of like Amazon Fire predictive like if I've just added a podcast or if I've just downloaded it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► Chances are good that that's going to be the one that I'm next going to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:23 ◼ ► or even have it even if you want to take it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6683">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► and make it perceptually faster by changing screens before the playing started right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:30 ◼ ► So that's the right answer and that's what I have to do I haven't done it yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6690">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► The right answer is I have to like kick off the screen load and then have to give the screen like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► and a loading state and then give the Now Playing screen a loading state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► and then take off the load of the file isn't going to say so I have to do that it's on my To Do list for you know one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► I haven't got to it saying that several people already complained about but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:57 ◼ ► and I'm sure you know about area for the list. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6717">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► This is about the idea of going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► and cherry picking individual episodes having it put you back out to whatever screen it sends you back out to like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► not as easy to just go through I want that up sort of that I want to sort of that you have you get sent back out to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► home thinking I dig your way back and again fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► I've been frustrated by that a few times and this one I know you got to play about this too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► but I'm over your answer for was if you are unfortunate enough to hit the end of a podcast before you realize you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► hit the end of it and it goes away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► Like I don't I don't know what the solutions are you're saying like maybe you could have a holding been for several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:36 ◼ ► times I've either action I scrubbed at the end of the podcast which is easy to do with the fats on the little scrubbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6756">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► they were never or it has run out when I have like you know it's not playing and I took my earphones off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:46 ◼ ► and didn't notice it was still playing or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6766">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► and at the end of nothing is gonna have to read downloaded what is read in about that one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► That's tricky this is most of the feature requests I've gotten so far today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► Or the people who are like oh I cannot use sat because I need to manage X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6776">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► Almost all of them are storage management of some sort like a lot of people are like one request I keep getting which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► I never really considered that you know people want us but they do exist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► Didn't cause I want to guess is a different state a state of things that are new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► or either that you know that you haven't played in deleted so like there the active state of the item [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► but that is not downloaded and won't be downloaded. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► Because right now my states are basically needs to be downloaded downloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► and deleted those are the three states not to be a bit like a pre download like who will be downloaded. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:40 ◼ ► Q I know that what people are asking for is they want items that like on certain devices just are never amount to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6820">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► download it right. Q That doesn't run it like it's a new item. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6828">TS</a>]
01:53:52 ◼ ► Yeah it's a new item that I want to keep those newly keepers unplayed but don't have the after a download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6832">TS</a>]
01:53:59 ◼ ► and maybe I'll start. It's not a time you know so there's and that's a very common request so far in the mail. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6839">TS</a>]
01:54:05 ◼ ► Again I was not expecting that at all in general like looking at the state of episodes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6845">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► when I'm going through any list you know it's not always easy to tell like is that boy what state is some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► or visual element to say if you have a state in your head like is this Does this need to be downloaded has it already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► been downloaded has been downloaded and started like how far progress in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► or is it one of those weird things you describe where it's not supposed to be done on this device. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:31 ◼ ► You've got the little eye there to try to figure out what's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6871">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► but other I mean I guess is the main other application of use I forget what it's iconography It's like a little green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:41 ◼ ► corner thing when it's been downloaded and like maybe it's like a progress bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6881">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► or some I don't even know the hell you spell like some visual way to look at a list and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► when I look at this list mention before like my nervousness about going on a plane fly to the very same thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:54 ◼ ► I don't know if all the podcast I want to listen to our downloads or not I can glance at the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6894">TS</a>]
01:54:58 ◼ ► and tell that I can go into each individual thing and see if it's downloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6898">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► and try to start playing to make sure that it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► but like some sort of visual reassurance of our knowledge of the state of each episode see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► and that this this is going to be a hard balance to strike. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► You know the pod cast apps you know I don't want to stream you have absolutely downcast I think I catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:20 ◼ ► or is like this where they just have tons of customizable settings for everything that comes in a pretty big cost of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6920">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► interface complexity and you know I'm trying. This app is trying to be a mass market. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6929">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► I'm trying to I'm really trying to compete with Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:41 ◼ ► and stitcher like that's that's what I'm looking at I'm not trying to compete with downcast and pocket cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6941">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► and insta castling But this isn't like a twitchy feature this is like this simple like a visual I mean I guess it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► like visual clutter you're trying to not have like you want to you need to convey a certain amount of information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:58 ◼ ► and you don't want to make it clear you don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6958">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► Like you look at an episode The Senate has like a million little stickers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► and dials all over it telling you like obscure icons that you like what does that mean it's like a lollipop in the red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:08 ◼ ► circle has a line through it and there's a thing that looks like a could be a progress bar. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► But I think that state information about which one was just playing which thing is currently pausing it like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:21 ◼ ► Meter over the things like that gives an indication of what's currently playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6981">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► but for all the other states like has this been downloaded. Is this going to be downloaded. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:29 ◼ ► How far am I in the episode is it played or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6989">TS</a>]
01:56:31 ◼ ► and by the way some of the chat room mentioned a reasonable solution to the what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6991">TS</a>]
01:56:37 ◼ ► Have a recently played list like you just pull off the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/6997">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► and delete from that after some period of time so if you actually scrub your way through an episode you can go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► reason I played was I don't I don't know that it's looks like the reason the reason I didn't put a lot of these unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:49 ◼ ► the date if you back is there was no I can't so obviously you need to do whatever because I would try to think well how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7009">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► would you solve that problem they're not easy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:56 ◼ ► Like it's there's only so much room for buttons there's only so much room for visual clutter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7016">TS</a>]
01:57:00 ◼ ► and you have a navigation hierarchy that you mean you don't want to break out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7020">TS</a>]
01:57:04 ◼ ► and start going like three dimensional chess for like you know when you're like right to left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7024">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► but you cannot assume in an out and it gets confusing because like you said with a lot of screens right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:12 ◼ ► and the question with all these features you know it's OK I want I want a way to do X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7032">TS</a>]
01:57:18 ◼ ► I want to way to toggle the state without affecting the state so I want to do state of this I want to do option to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7038">TS</a>]
01:57:22 ◼ ► this one of the big question is Where do you put all this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7042">TS</a>]
01:57:25 ◼ ► and what do you do in the interface which you know you know is that hidden behind a gesture. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7045">TS</a>]
01:57:30 ◼ ► If so how does it explain to anybody is you know is it is it behind like an Info button where do you put the info [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7050">TS</a>]
01:57:38 ◼ ► Is it is it you know in the settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7058">TS</a>]
01:57:40 ◼ ► and how they can sense we like the apps I mentioned I like the ones I have a lot of option I doubt it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7060">TS</a>]
01:57:44 ◼ ► and I guess they have like six different pages in their settings screens because they have like all these settings that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7064">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► people the quest have to go somewhere and the you wise for that can be pretty clumsy and cumbersome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:57 ◼ ► and can turn off a lot of people and so I'm trying to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7077">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► I'm trying to balance this like you know I'm trying to balance between trying to give people what they want rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:11 ◼ ► and trying to be a mass market appeal app you know I don't want to add a million features I'm never going to win that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7091">TS</a>]
01:58:22 ◼ ► but secondarily I don't want to you know if you want tons of fine grained controls over all that stuff I think you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7102">TS</a>]
01:58:31 ◼ ► be better off using downcast just like just use them test you just concentrate on adding making it they figure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7111">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► already have the features that are already there making it clear to the people using those features. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:42 ◼ ► What's going on that you have a certain kind of state that you already support. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7122">TS</a>]
01:58:45 ◼ ► Right and you have certain features that you already support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7125">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► but a lot of them like you said like might be had like for you to give another example I'm looking at the app now on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► the little download icon has a badge it says five I tap so I don't know that badge means I soon that means it's five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7135">TS</a>]
01:59:02 ◼ ► or whatever I tap on the little five I see a list of five episodes they all say download paused underneath them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7142">TS</a>]
01:59:07 ◼ ► and very light text it would be hard to read about it even older. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7147">TS</a>]
01:59:11 ◼ ► I don't know why these are all paused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7151">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► and like this is this is an example of you know the mysteries of overcast sometimes it does things that are understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7154">TS</a>]
01:59:21 ◼ ► when it's best working best when it's like you're in the cycle now you see where three download is the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7161">TS</a>]
01:59:28 ◼ ► when you're in sort of the cycle where like I was in a a long period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7168">TS</a>]
01:59:31 ◼ ► or just like I didn't do anything application I had set up my subscriptions I had set up my playlists. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7171">TS</a>]
01:59:37 ◼ ► I wake up in the morning all my particles would be there and exactly thought or that I wanted them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7177">TS</a>]
01:59:42 ◼ ► and I would just play it like that's you know that's that's how you want to work it's like I don't have to touch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7182">TS</a>]
01:59:46 ◼ ► application of exactly what I want I never have to wait for it or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7186">TS</a>]
01:59:50 ◼ ► when something does go wrong I want to do something weird like oh you know someone recommended this is before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7190">TS</a>]
01:59:54 ◼ ► Twitter recommendations but someone recommended that I should listen to that sort of like your chatter was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7194">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► So I go on the surge front like you shot up on the episode like well how do I get this into my thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:04 ◼ ► and I'm going to mark it as a priority parkas America's manually arranged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7204">TS</a>]
02:00:07 ◼ ► and I subscribe to like your shadow now did I just am on the one episode is a going to download all the rest electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7207">TS</a>]
02:00:14 ◼ ► shadows it was a no I just got that one like these are pictures that already exists like you can do all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7214">TS</a>]
02:00:18 ◼ ► but I was unsure whether I was using the app in the right way to do them you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7218">TS</a>]
02:00:23 ◼ ► and like that I think rather than adding features of them the ones you think you have to add is probably the place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7223">TS</a>]
02:00:29 ◼ ► contrary specially for mass market because Apple already does tons of stuff and already has tons of features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7229">TS</a>]
02:00:33 ◼ ► but it's not always clear to the inexperienced user or the new user that those features exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7233">TS</a>]
02:00:41 ◼ ► or that those people are successfully using them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7241">TS</a>]
02:00:44 ◼ ► Yeah you're totally right I mean that's I agree they're not going to argue with you there I agree there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7244">TS</a>]
02:00:49 ◼ ► There's a lot of things in the app that are not as clear as they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7249">TS</a>]
02:00:51 ◼ ► and there are not as intuitive as they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7251">TS</a>]
02:00:54 ◼ ► and a lot of features that are that are kind of hidden that you know probably shouldn't be you know it's one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7254">TS</a>]
02:01:02 ◼ ► So file a bug or less a problem like if I had all the good suggestions I did because I knew exactly what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7262">TS</a>]
02:01:09 ◼ ► but not in any of the problem like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7269">TS</a>]
02:01:12 ◼ ► or not like oh it's just a lot of times it is use an application you're like oh this is obvious you should be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7272">TS</a>]
02:01:17 ◼ ► this and some for some of the the feature features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7277">TS</a>]
02:01:19 ◼ ► or indeed go market you could total Let me start listening immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7279">TS</a>]
02:01:22 ◼ ► and say there is a down like you know you need to do that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7282">TS</a>]
02:01:25 ◼ ► That's a technical thing you can tell the person that you want to work and it's fine but the U.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7285">TS</a>]
02:01:29 ◼ ► Things it's like so what do you add what buttons do you add what buttons the remove what you know you're We've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7289">TS</a>]
02:01:34 ◼ ► got swiping tab where else are you going to stick with other thing that's why I keep thinking visually like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7294">TS</a>]
02:01:39 ◼ ► know what the design would look like I don't think I think you could get something that fits in a theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7299">TS</a>]
02:01:43 ◼ ► but that they have a concrete suggestion for it like some kind of visual indication of the states that already exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7303">TS</a>]
02:01:52 ◼ ► for episodes and such and the navigation thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7312">TS</a>]
02:01:54 ◼ ► when you try to cherry pick up those not getting chucked back up again you've heard most all this feedback before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7314">TS</a>]
02:02:00 ◼ ► On the pod cast other people can know that you've heard this feedback you should just make that you should just make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7320">TS</a>]
02:02:04 ◼ ► the beta board public and say that people have said all these things before Take a look. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7324">TS</a>]
02:02:07 ◼ ► To some degree it's a different philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7327">TS</a>]
02:02:09 ◼ ► and on how much of this stuff people are asking for a should even offer I would much rather favor good default behavior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7329">TS</a>]
02:02:21 ◼ ► If I can get away with it and there are some times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7341">TS</a>]
02:02:22 ◼ ► when you can get away with that you know sometimes like if if people are really divided on something it's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7342">TS</a>]
02:02:27 ◼ ► fifty fifty happy want does have to want that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7347">TS</a>]
02:02:30 ◼ ► Neither of them is clearly better than the other just like a difference of preference like then you usually have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7350">TS</a>]
02:02:34 ◼ ► have a setting somewhere for that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7354">TS</a>]
02:02:35 ◼ ► The I think you need a setting for the at the end of the episode it immediately gets deleted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7355">TS</a>]
02:02:39 ◼ ► and you can't find it again because they displace people probably want that people who are like oh I want I want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7359">TS</a>]
02:02:45 ◼ ► done immediately but if you if you if you just put them into the recently played Episode thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7365">TS</a>]
02:02:52 ◼ ► and got rid of them after five minutes the space people wouldn't care about the I actually went to the end people kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7372">TS</a>]
02:02:58 ◼ ► of like the I.X. Did you mean to scroll to the top or having a status bar do you not really an Instapaper. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7378">TS</a>]
02:03:02 ◼ ► Right it's not you need to have that feature. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7382">TS</a>]
02:03:05 ◼ ► But sometimes people do it accidentally This is a similar situation like it's a frustrating situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7385">TS</a>]
02:03:10 ◼ ► when you hit especially when I'm trying to scrub around it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7390">TS</a>]
02:03:12 ◼ ► Even on our own episode I was trying to listen to something we were saying in an after show now is trying to scrub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7392">TS</a>]
02:03:16 ◼ ► around near the end of the thing to find to go back as I had missed something because you know I've been distracted for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7396">TS</a>]
02:03:22 ◼ ► a second and I scrubbed off the end of the episode. Oh that's not good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7402">TS</a>]
02:03:26 ◼ ► And like the displaced people are like you can wait five minutes to space people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7406">TS</a>]
02:03:29 ◼ ► but I want to believe I will get those emails. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7409">TS</a>]
02:03:33 ◼ ► I'm always running as based on my devices too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7413">TS</a>]
02:03:35 ◼ ► but it's much worse to actually try to scrub back here something that Casey said actually go off the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7415">TS</a>]
02:03:41 ◼ ► and people who are left for a skip to skip the A.T.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7421">TS</a>]
02:03:46 ◼ ► Theme song I don't like people like them somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7426">TS</a>]
02:03:48 ◼ ► but I was I have find myself speaking going off the end at the end of back to work I don't like listening to the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7428">TS</a>]
02:03:53 ◼ ► stuff and it starts playing I want to be done but to make the episode go away I have to manually. As far as I know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7433">TS</a>]
02:04:00 ◼ ► Manually from the scrubber to the end to make that episode you know the mark displayed where as far as I'm concerned as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7440">TS</a>]
02:04:06 ◼ ► soon as a little music starts playing I'm done with the answer I get hit I get hit fast forward like three times which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7446">TS</a>]
02:04:11 ◼ ► and I just believe the cell phone goes the step of insulation that I'm what I'm saying is like the things that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7451">TS</a>]
02:04:18 ◼ ► near the borders at the end of the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7458">TS</a>]
02:04:21 ◼ ► and fighting with the little you know the behavior of should it go away sometimes I want to go immediately. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7461">TS</a>]
02:04:25 ◼ ► Sometimes I don't want to go accidentally And so but I think just like like the you know recycle bin or trash can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7465">TS</a>]
02:04:32 ◼ ► or whatever having having some sort of buffer zone for things to stay in for a short period of time without any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7472">TS</a>]
02:04:37 ◼ ► settings related to that just as the behavior of the people who need the space will just you know just tell them it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7477">TS</a>]
02:04:43 ◼ ► immediately fried and five minutes later we'll be right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7483">TS</a>]
02:04:47 ◼ ► Yeah I mean that that's worth considering but then then I have to have a U.I. For. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7487">TS</a>]
02:04:52 ◼ ► OK well how do you get to be easily to do a show up in a specialist somewhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7492">TS</a>]
02:04:57 ◼ ► Yeah I mean like like you have playlists right so I would just keep using that metaphor like these are smart playlists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7497">TS</a>]
02:05:03 ◼ ► that are built in you know to me it's I don't know if I there's enough cost to that feature that I'm not sure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7503">TS</a>]
02:05:11 ◼ ► worth it like and then there's also there's like there's like the cognitive burden that you put on all the users. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7511">TS</a>]
02:05:18 ◼ ► or three different ways then if you're in the user trying to figure out a way I just did this then you know where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7518">TS</a>]
02:05:26 ◼ ► or do I have this file like you claim you said earlier that you were you know you want to be sure if you get on a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7526">TS</a>]
02:05:31 ◼ ► or something you want to know what Arab things down or not right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7531">TS</a>]
02:05:34 ◼ ► One of the reasons why I've kept the storage model so simple is to provide that assurance to you know like OK if if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7534">TS</a>]
02:05:44 ◼ ► if there is no number badge or frowny face on the downloads icon then I have everything that's like that's it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7544">TS</a>]
02:05:51 ◼ ► If the damage icon is not showing a status I didn't know that that concept is clear to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7551">TS</a>]
02:05:56 ◼ ► but I didn't know that that service that I've got and I know that so I will look at that and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7556">TS</a>]
02:06:00 ◼ ► That's the Malia but that model that's the you know the programmer model that's in your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7560">TS</a>]
02:06:03 ◼ ► but the user model is not like there is nothing in the U.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7563">TS</a>]
02:06:06 ◼ ► That tells me that that issue that that should be the case that the only way I can know that I'm safe is I just look to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7566">TS</a>]
02:06:11 ◼ ► see if there's any badge I download icon if there is I'm safe and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7571">TS</a>]
02:06:15 ◼ ► and you have burned in the beta because I change halfway through the beta earlier on when it first hit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7575">TS</a>]
02:06:21 ◼ ► when you first complain about it I was not valuing the files I was getting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7581">TS</a>]
02:06:26 ◼ ► If the download gave me a file and the download completed successfully I said OK it's exceeded done and I moved on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7586">TS</a>]
02:06:34 ◼ ► and then you tap it at the file and you get the that is unfortunate or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7594">TS</a>]
02:06:39 ◼ ► and I would say up can I go to the file I don't know I like that that that that era means that opening the file in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7599">TS</a>]
02:06:47 ◼ ► and often that was because it was a bad download sometimes it was like it was not actually audio file it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7607">TS</a>]
02:06:53 ◼ ► somebody is five a three page that when there was a server error like so what I do now in the download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7613">TS</a>]
02:06:59 ◼ ► or after you've made a complaint that was correct and so what I do now is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7619">TS</a>]
02:07:05 ◼ ► As soon as the files download there's a brief pause where it seems to freeze at ninety nine percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7625">TS</a>]
02:07:11 ◼ ► and the reason why is because it's loading into the audio processor right then to see is this a real audio file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7631">TS</a>]
02:07:18 ◼ ► And you know it was there and I need to get any information you get from this that we want to download it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7638">TS</a>]
02:07:24 ◼ ► and give you an accurate duration and if it's not actually audio file. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7644">TS</a>]
02:07:28 ◼ ► If you consider that a failed download and then showed in the U.I. and Maybe try to retry later or something like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7648">TS</a>]
02:07:33 ◼ ► So now with that you can be pretty sure that what you're getting you know as soon as it was downloaded it was tested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7653">TS</a>]
02:07:41 ◼ ► the thing that opened all your files so it will open. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7661">TS</a>]
02:07:45 ◼ ► Well I know you've got the accident to leave by scrubbing complaint before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7665">TS</a>]
02:07:48 ◼ ► and I think you'll get it again maybe you know why you got it from a couple of people in the beta. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7668">TS</a>]
02:07:53 ◼ ► Maybe you can check your emails Eva comes up more often but I still say that scrubbing around in a down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7673">TS</a>]
02:08:00 ◼ ► Loaded up a sword should never cause that episode to be deleted. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7680">TS</a>]
02:08:03 ◼ ► Despite the fact that yes I agree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7683">TS</a>]
02:08:04 ◼ ► when you're done playing the episode having to be automatically deleted is pretty much what people want to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7684">TS</a>]
02:08:11 ◼ ► or even hitting the fast forward button should never cause out of the hundreds of I am on the plane everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7691">TS</a>]
02:08:16 ◼ ► downloaded and I'm listening to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7696">TS</a>]
02:08:18 ◼ ► and at the beginning of the episode they make a reference to something at the end of like hour how I want to get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7698">TS</a>]
02:08:23 ◼ ► end and see what they're referring to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7703">TS</a>]
02:08:24 ◼ ► when I go see at the end I guess deleted like I want to listen to our podcast nominal playing with NO I find I can't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7704">TS</a>]
02:08:29 ◼ ► Like scrubbing using the scrubber does not seem like it should be something that causes data loss. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7709">TS</a>]
02:08:37 ◼ ► but you know that you just wait wait wait to see what the feedback is like maybe I'm the only one there was like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7717">TS</a>]
02:08:42 ◼ ► two or three other people who had similar comments in the beta and I've had it happen. I've had it happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7722">TS</a>]
02:08:46 ◼ ► I mean just you know if it's a far it's a problem you'll find out because right now I'm going to people download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7726">TS</a>]
02:08:50 ◼ ► and they want maybe they don't want to use it for a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7730">TS</a>]
02:08:52 ◼ ► or so you'll find out what the real percentage is one thing I did about in one of the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7732">TS</a>]
02:08:58 ◼ ► or third beta I change the scrubber so that before it was continuous as soon as you would drag it around it would see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7738">TS</a>]
02:09:05 ◼ ► to that point and see if you could tell your finger over and drag to the right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7745">TS</a>]
02:09:09 ◼ ► It would just it would eventually see you hit the far right edge then delete the pod cast the way it's released now in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7749">TS</a>]
02:09:15 ◼ ► the way it was about a third of the way the beta is its momentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7755">TS</a>]
02:09:20 ◼ ► or rather so like you have to touch down drag around as you driving around it doesn't actually seek until you release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7760">TS</a>]
02:09:27 ◼ ► it and so in order to hit the ending delete the file on the scrub or you have to drag it to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7767">TS</a>]
02:09:33 ◼ ► and release it while it's at the end to actually have that happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7773">TS</a>]
02:09:37 ◼ ► Like when you're trying to get to like the last thirty seconds of a two hour pod cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7777">TS</a>]
02:09:41 ◼ ► and your big thumb is covering like the time stamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7781">TS</a>]
02:09:43 ◼ ► and you can't really you know it's easy to accidentally even released him just to take a look over the timestamp is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7783">TS</a>]
02:09:49 ◼ ► and I realize you've at the end. Yeah that's fair. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7789">TS</a>]
02:09:51 ◼ ► I mean what you're identifying is definitely not ideal the question is whether the alternatives are worse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7791">TS</a>]
02:09:59 ◼ ► Like weather. Turn it of complexity is actually overall worse and I don't know the answer to that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7799">TS</a>]
02:10:06 ◼ ► I'm sure there's ways I can improve it that I haven't thought of yet but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7806">TS</a>]
02:10:10 ◼ ► But you know like adding this whole different state of episodes of like this like Purgatory state which would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7810">TS</a>]
02:10:18 ◼ ► confusing a lot of people would never even realize they could go back and get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7818">TS</a>]
02:10:22 ◼ ► and the story of people be very upset by it and they would be more work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7822">TS</a>]
02:10:26 ◼ ► and more complicated I mean more weird bug edge his potential So like the orange people would never know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7826">TS</a>]
02:10:31 ◼ ► Anyway you can always you can always make it a setting in a case five minutes you do it in fact five minutes the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7831">TS</a>]
02:10:39 ◼ ► way thing that like I mean there's limited space for navigation here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7839">TS</a>]
02:10:42 ◼ ► but like I wanted to show my wife the directory today and I had to think now where was the directory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7842">TS</a>]
02:10:48 ◼ ► and said look at the top it's I found it really should be given Marco stubborn down low and I am now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7848">TS</a>]
02:10:55 ◼ ► and then a plus I agree with the icon I don't like here. Well that's not fair. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7855">TS</a>]
02:10:59 ◼ ► I think that the icon work is a perfectly nice icon I'm just saying that it is the symbol for settings anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7859">TS</a>]
02:11:07 ◼ ► and I had to think like well it's not going to be under downloads because it's a directory. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7867">TS</a>]
02:11:11 ◼ ► The little Plus thing with a document I had to keep reinforcing to myself then that means that playlist right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7871">TS</a>]
02:11:17 ◼ ► Yeah yeah and so the plus is like what. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7877">TS</a>]
02:11:20 ◼ ► By a process of elimination it has to be the plus to see the director make sense because you're adding a pod aghast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7880">TS</a>]
02:11:26 ◼ ► kind of like it's like I expect it to be like the search but it's also the directory. Anyway my search for A.T.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7886">TS</a>]
02:11:32 ◼ ► and Didn't find as part of her bug report you really got that one too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7892">TS</a>]
02:11:36 ◼ ► Well it's probably somewhere in my it's now my five hundred ninety e-mails some time I mean you know someone tweeted My [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7896">TS</a>]
02:11:43 ◼ ► wife showed to me and I said take a screenshot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7903">TS</a>]
02:11:45 ◼ ► and send it to Marco you can use buckshot put a big red arrow Beside I think she actually did email you about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7905">TS</a>]
02:11:50 ◼ ► but anyway that that has to do it like we have to put it to be somewhere in our meditator description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7910">TS</a>]
02:11:54 ◼ ► or something for that to work out on your terms. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7914">TS</a>]
02:12:00 ◼ ► You know what your option is when you want the application to have a gigantic big subscribed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7920">TS</a>]
02:12:06 ◼ ► Well it's already in the in the directory it's it's in the tech category which is the top left category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7926">TS</a>]
02:12:11 ◼ ► and directories. Anyway that's that's that's plenty for now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7931">TS</a>]
02:12:17 ◼ ► So the important thing here is that I shipped before fast text for I was seven. I cannot believe I beat you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7937">TS</a>]
02:12:25 ◼ ► I've to be honest I've worked on fast and it's like once maybe twice since I was seven came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7945">TS</a>]
02:12:30 ◼ ► but that doesn't negate your point which is that you wrote what three quarters of an application in the time that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7950">TS</a>]
02:12:37 ◼ ► couldn't basically just recompile for I was seven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7957">TS</a>]
02:12:43 ◼ ► The I'm so happy when you when you first joked about that it was probably six months ago probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7963">TS</a>]
02:12:49 ◼ ► and I thought for sure oh yeah I'm all I want for sure I'd make it but I haven't I haven't found the time to move. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS1HDXI/7969">TS</a>]